My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "When a man marries his mistress, a vacancy opens."
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                                         Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Vogue Williams, and I am Dwayne McNally.
                                         
                                         It's the bonus episode. Welcome. Sit down. Take a load off.
                                         
                                         I'm only going to let you do this if you say
                                         
                                         g'day mate
                                         
                                         in an Australian accent
                                         
                                         and you get it good
                                         
                                         you're so embarrassing
                                         
    
                                         I can't
                                         
                                         do it
                                         
                                         do it
                                         
                                         do it Skippy
                                         
                                         do it
                                         
                                         g'day mate
                                         
                                         so we're going to be in Australia
                                         
                                         we're going to
                                         
    
                                         Brisbane
                                         
                                         Sydney
                                         
                                         Melbourne
                                         
                                         couple of Sydney's
                                         
                                         anyway I'm excited
                                         
                                         to go to Sydney
                                         
                                         I have packed my bags
                                         
                                         literally and I'm ready
                                         
    
                                         to go
                                         
                                         nowhere else
                                         
                                         well I'm also
                                         
                                         okay okay well Joanne
                                         
                                         I'm sorry
                                         
                                         I've made plans
                                         
                                         I'd be very careful here now
                                         
                                         I have plans in every city
                                         
    
                                         I don't think that I have time
                                         
                                         to spend any time with you
                                         
                                         outside of the shows
                                         
                                         because I am
                                         
                                         so busy
                                         
                                         with my friends
                                         
                                         okay
                                         
                                         remember that
                                         
    
                                         okay well I can't wait to eat it whatever it is because I am so busy with my friends. Okay? Remember that.
                                         
                                         Okay, well.
                                         
                                         I can't eat it, whatever it is.
                                         
                                         I'm thinking a cat or a rabbit or a tiny dog.
                                         
                                         So Spenny is like, you see, he's one of those people,
                                         
                                         like you and Spenny, if we'd put all this stuff together.
                                         
                                         Like he buys an expensive pair of sunglasses and I just look at him like, what's the point?
                                         
                                         There's no point.
                                         
    
                                         Just take out your money and throw it on the ground.
                                         
                                         There's no point.
                                         
                                         It's really bad.
                                         
                                         I mean, I can't be, I can't keep dragging, I can't keep dragging ADHDers down with me, but I do feel there is.
                                         
                                         I'm not going to throw myself into that camp because I actually read an article the other day
                                         
                                         oh god
                                         
                                         Twitter's a dark place at the moment but
                                         
                                         an article the other day about
                                         
    
                                         this woman, this doctor
                                         
                                         who was saying like everyone has
                                         
                                         ADHD at the moment and it's not helpful
                                         
                                         to self-diagnose and it's not an
                                         
                                         identity and then someone else is like how
                                         
                                         dare you speak about me
                                         
                                         and my community like that and all kicked off I don't know why I got sucked into this twitter rant
                                         
                                         anyway so I'm very aware I'm not saying I have ADHD however there is a certain type of personality
                                         
    
                                         that's scattered you're a scatty that's that's like but saying that I'm chaotic but you're a
                                         
                                         scatty yes you're not yeah Vogue, there is nothing chaotic about you.
                                         
                                         No, I mean, by the way I conduct myself,
                                         
                                         like I went into a shop today
                                         
                                         and I had half an hour to like this amazing shop
                                         
                                         and I was running around like such a lunatic
                                         
                                         and I was like just crazy the way I was just going around
                                         
                                         like trying to get,
                                         
    
                                         I tried to squash too much into one day.
                                         
                                         You're not, but you're not,
                                         
                                         you're high functioning and overly productive. You're not chaotic. That's like saying the French don't like to day. You're not, but you're not, you're high functioning and overly
                                         
                                         productive. You're not chaotic. That's like saying the French
                                         
                                         don't like to riot. You're not.
                                         
                                         You're the opposite. How about their bedbugs?
                                         
                                         Sting on.
                                         
                                         Where the fuck did all the bedbugs come from? Do we
                                         
    
                                         know? No, but I remember
                                         
                                         I was staying in a nice resort in one of
                                         
                                         my first dates with Spenny and it was
                                         
                                         infested with bedbugs
                                         
                                         and we woke up in the morning
                                         
                                         and you basically,
                                         
                                         I've been reading about bedbugs,
                                         
                                         they inject you with like a painkiller
                                         
    
                                         so you don't feel them biting you
                                         
                                         when they're doing it
                                         
                                         but you wake up the next day
                                         
                                         with all this.
                                         
                                         A painkiller?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It comes out of their body.
                                         
                                         They can live.
                                         
    
                                         Like morphine?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         They basically shoot you up.
                                         
                                         Well, had I known that, I would have
                                         
                                         opened the bedroom door. I didn't realise that
                                         
                                         they were medicating us. I thought they were just
                                         
                                         taking our blood. I know, but it's so
                                         
                                         painful when you wake up and you've just got this itchy
                                         
    
                                         disgusting rash and you know that someone's
                                         
                                         been feasting on you overnight. It's grim.
                                         
                                         Oh my God, I'm going to get a little cage, keep
                                         
                                         them in the room, then open their little door
                                         
                                         at night and just lay there.
                                         
                                         Get whacked out of it.
                                         
                                         I had bed bug bites in a hostel in Australia.
                                         
                                         So what I heard, my source on bed bugs tells me that they bite everyone,
                                         
    
                                         but only some of you have blood that they want.
                                         
                                         So they kind of test you like a sommelier.
                                         
                                         And they kind of nip in
                                         
                                         and see if they like the blood
                                         
                                         and if they do
                                         
                                         they'll keep going
                                         
                                         and if they don't
                                         
                                         they'll stop
                                         
    
                                         that's what I heard
                                         
                                         and then
                                         
                                         and they work in pairs
                                         
                                         the animals
                                         
                                         and that's why
                                         
                                         they're kind of in
                                         
                                         they're in
                                         
                                         like it looks like a line
                                         
    
                                         well they
                                         
                                         so what they do do
                                         
                                         they eat anything
                                         
                                         that's breathing because they love carbon dioxide.
                                         
                                         That's what they thrive on.
                                         
                                         And they also can withstand freezing temperatures and temperatures up to 110 degrees.
                                         
                                         So you're kind of screwed.
                                         
                                         That's why there's mattresses all over the streets in Paris, because you've got to like throw out your mattresses.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, you have to boil the bedbugs out.
                                         
                                         And they always, they're like a little duo.
                                         
                                         That's what I heard.
                                         
                                         Like Ant and Dec or Usvogue.
                                         
                                         A little duo.'s what I heard like Ant and Jack or us folk a little duo
                                         
                                         one of those
                                         
                                         two
                                         
                                         I feel like
                                         
    
                                         we're more like
                                         
                                         those two men
                                         
                                         who are they again
                                         
                                         the duo
                                         
                                         I can't remember
                                         
                                         who they are
                                         
                                         the hairy bikers
                                         
                                         the joke club brothers
                                         
    
                                         that's who I meant
                                         
                                         apparently they're
                                         
                                         the nicest men
                                         
                                         in show business
                                         
                                         but yeah
                                         
                                         apparently they're all
                                         
                                         in the cinemas and everything in France yeah they're everywhere but they're the nicest men in show business But yeah Apparently they're all in the cinemas
                                         
                                         and everything
                                         
    
                                         in France
                                         
                                         Yeah they're everywhere
                                         
                                         But they're supposedly
                                         
                                         on the tubes in London now
                                         
                                         So they're starting to come to London
                                         
                                         Obviously via the Eurostar
                                         
                                         We all knew it was going to happen
                                         
                                         I know
                                         
    
                                         I just feel like
                                         
                                         Why do I see them sitting on the tube
                                         
                                         going to the London Eye
                                         
                                         Why do I think they're tourists
                                         
                                         Reading that paper
                                         
                                         Yeah the Metro
                                         
                                         Reading the Metro reading the Metro
                                         
                                         reading about
                                         
    
                                         Joanne's
                                         
                                         Joanne's big article
                                         
                                         little
                                         
                                         little legs
                                         
                                         swinging off the chairs
                                         
                                         sorry now I'm thinking
                                         
                                         they're like the little
                                         
                                         M&M men
                                         
    
                                         and their little legs
                                         
                                         are just swinging
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         sorry
                                         
                                         you my belle
                                         
                                         bed
                                         
                                         bed bug
                                         
                                         off the Natural History Museum
                                         
    
                                         trying to get into Soho House
                                         
                                         so I know this just
                                         
                                         it seems meaningless
                                         
                                         but Jo you'll understand
                                         
                                         eventually when you're doing it
                                         
                                         so we have playdates
                                         
                                         with our kids
                                         
                                         all the time
                                         
    
                                         like loads of playdates they're always going on playdates with our kids all the time like
                                         
                                         loads of playdates they're always going on playdates tea is very popular so he has one today
                                         
                                         and I basically went to the school and um had I known this was the case I wouldn't have told the
                                         
                                         dad to go to the school I would have taken the child so he's a playdate with one of his friends
                                         
                                         and he was like okay see you later I'll pick her up after five and I was like oh hang on we're now
                                         
                                         at the age where I can just
                                         
                                         ditch tea
                                         
                                         and he can go off
                                         
    
                                         to someone's house
                                         
                                         for a play date
                                         
                                         and then you just reciprocate
                                         
                                         by taking their child
                                         
                                         for a few hours
                                         
                                         another day.
                                         
                                         It's brilliant.
                                         
                                         Free,
                                         
    
                                         it's free,
                                         
                                         it's free babysitting.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Free childcare.
                                         
                                         Won't be long
                                         
                                         until I can just dump him
                                         
                                         at the party.
                                         
                                         Spenny tried to dump him
                                         
    
                                         at the party on Saturday.
                                         
                                         He was like,
                                         
                                         can we not just go?
                                         
                                         I was like,
                                         
                                         no, we can't go.
                                         
                                         We have to stay.
                                         
                                         Do you have to stay?
                                         
                                         I didn't know that.
                                         
    
                                         But back when I was younger,
                                         
                                         my parents never stayed at the parties.
                                         
                                         No, they do over here to a certain age, I think.
                                         
                                         I don't even think they stopped the car.
                                         
                                         I think they just rolled us out.
                                         
                                         We just went in and started to party hard.
                                         
                                         And then they just did a couple of laps in the estate
                                         
                                         and slowed down and we climbed laps in the estate and slowed down
                                         
    
                                         and we climbed back
                                         
                                         in the boot and went home
                                         
                                         literally
                                         
                                         every party
                                         
                                         was the same
                                         
                                         when we were younger
                                         
                                         there was those
                                         
                                         mini fairy buns
                                         
    
                                         there was the
                                         
                                         Rice Krispie cakes
                                         
                                         and then you'd just
                                         
                                         have loads of crisps
                                         
                                         and stuff
                                         
                                         but you wouldn't
                                         
                                         actually do anything
                                         
                                         we didn't get
                                         
    
                                         children's entertainers
                                         
                                         or anything
                                         
                                         you literally would
                                         
                                         just be in a race
                                         
                                         together
                                         
                                         with all your friends
                                         
                                         the entertainment
                                         
                                         was your brother with the whistle telling everyone to run and then that's would just be in together with all your friends the entertainment was your brother
                                         
    
                                         with the whistle
                                         
                                         telling everyone to run
                                         
                                         and then
                                         
                                         that's what we did
                                         
                                         relay races
                                         
                                         around the block
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         that's what we did
                                         
                                         Pass the Parcel
                                         
                                         obviously was brilliant
                                         
                                         Pass the Parcel
                                         
                                         huge hit
                                         
                                         musical chairs
                                         
                                         musical chairs
                                         
                                         lots of accidents
                                         
    
                                         a lot of violence
                                         
                                         a lot of competition
                                         
                                         and then
                                         
                                         I remember one birthday
                                         
                                         really well
                                         
                                         I think it was when
                                         
                                         we started using like video on birthday parties.
                                         
                                         And you know, the kind of real grainy, like 90s footage that you find on VHS.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know, because literally there's no footage of me as a child at all.
                                         
                                         Like my parents genuinely didn't like, there's nothing.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Nothing, nothing.
                                         
                                         I would never see myself walking as a child unless it was I was caught by somebody else's
                                         
                                         video camera
                                         
                                         it's just in the background
                                         
                                         like a yeti
                                         
    
                                         proof folk Williams
                                         
                                         actually exists
                                         
                                         did you hear about
                                         
                                         do you think folk Williams exists
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         just creeping around
                                         
                                         like that man
                                         
                                         and it's just
                                         
    
                                         big foot just
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         big mate
                                         
                                         big mate from house
                                         
                                         is she real
                                         
                                         no one knows.
                                         
                                         Oh my God,
                                         
                                         if I ever have a production company,
                                         
    
                                         I think I'll call it
                                         
                                         Big Mouth Productions.
                                         
                                         It's a really,
                                         
                                         that's a really good name.
                                         
                                         Actually,
                                         
                                         beep,
                                         
                                         beep,
                                         
                                         if it doesn't exist,
                                         
    
                                         just beep it out
                                         
                                         because I'm actually going to use it.
                                         
                                         Thanks Joanne McNally.
                                         
                                         Trademark that.
                                         
                                         Yeah,
                                         
                                         it exists in New York,
                                         
                                         but you know,
                                         
                                         you could do it over here.
                                         
    
                                         Big Mouth UK. Yeah, Big Mouth UK. Oh no, it exists in New York, but you know, you could do it over here. Big Mate UK.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Big Mate UK.
                                         
                                         Oh no,
                                         
                                         it exists in the UK as well.
                                         
                                         Huge Mates.
                                         
                                         Like there's other ways
                                         
                                         of describing your mates.
                                         
                                         Vast.
                                         
    
                                         Large Mates.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Too big for her face.
                                         
                                         Face hell.
                                         
                                         Face hell.
                                         
                                         Face hell.
                                         
                                         Face crevice.
                                         
                                         Face swamp.
                                         
    
                                         Facial abyss productions.
                                         
                                         It does take up,
                                         
                                         it takes up like
                                         
                                         over a third of my face.
                                         
                                         So it should,
                                         
                                         it's taking up
                                         
                                         too much of the face.
                                         
                                         You haven't mentioned
                                         
    
                                         my pink hair.
                                         
                                         Does it not look pink to you?
                                         
                                         Sorry, I mentioned it
                                         
                                         but my earphones hadn't,
                                         
                                         my mic wasn't on at the time.
                                         
                                         I was like,
                                         
                                         oh my God, your hair is pink.
                                         
                                         Well, you're all going, we can't hear you. We can't hear you.'t on at the time I was like oh my god your hair is pink while you were all going we can't hear you
                                         
    
                                         we can't hear you
                                         
                                         you know the tech
                                         
                                         the tech era
                                         
                                         before the 20 minute podcast
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         I was listening back
                                         
                                         to our pod yesterday
                                         
                                         because I do that so like
                                         
    
                                         I protect Joanne
                                         
                                         mainly
                                         
                                         and listen
                                         
                                         that thing you were listening to
                                         
                                         like speaking of hotels
                                         
                                         that's like your new thing now
                                         
                                         you don't even know.
                                         
                                         I didn't even notice I was doing it.
                                         
    
                                         I just demand a segue for my own conversations.
                                         
                                         Hi, Vogue and Joanne and Jo.
                                         
                                         I, oh no, I think we're in trouble and Joanne and Joe I, oh no I think we're in trouble Joanne
                                         
                                         I have been thinking
                                         
                                         of writing to you for a long time
                                         
                                         I'm listening to this week's, I don't know
                                         
                                         I don't know, well if we are
                                         
                                         Joe are we in trouble? I don't think you're in trouble, let's see
                                         
    
                                         I have been thinking about writing to you
                                         
                                         for a long time, I'm listening to this week's bonus
                                         
                                         episode on the poor woman who kept
                                         
                                         calling herself a piece of shit
                                         
                                         I had to write in this week as I have on the poor woman who kept calling herself a piece of shit.
                                         
                                         I had to write in this week as I have been the wife
                                         
                                         who was cheated on.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
    
                                         Although I used to be annoyed
                                         
                                         at the woman
                                         
                                         who had an affair
                                         
                                         with my husband,
                                         
                                         ultimately,
                                         
                                         he was the one
                                         
                                         who was married
                                         
                                         in that situation
                                         
    
                                         and so the blame lies with him,
                                         
                                         not his mistress.
                                         
                                         That's actually very grown up.
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
                                         it's hard when
                                         
                                         you're emotionally involved in a situation
                                         
                                         to be, to make, kind of
                                         
                                         to be rational about things.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah. I think.
                                         
                                         I have no doubt my husband was telling this woman
                                         
                                         that we were no longer really in a relationship
                                         
                                         and he was staying for the sake of the
                                         
                                         kids. Oh God, there was kids.
                                         
                                         Oh, this couldn't be further
                                         
                                         from the truth.
                                         
                                         If the man this lady is seeing has not yet left his wife,
                                         
    
                                         I believe he does not really intend on doing so.
                                         
                                         Agree?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Leaving a marriage is hard,
                                         
                                         but so is sneaking around and covering up an affair.
                                         
                                         The man is looking to have his cake and eat it.
                                         
                                         You said that, Joanne?
                                         
                                         I did.
                                         
    
                                         The woman who wrote in deserves so much better
                                         
                                         than a man who will cheat
                                         
                                         on his wife.
                                         
                                         As my mom always says,
                                         
                                         when a man marries his mistress,
                                         
                                         a vacancy opens.
                                         
                                         Oh, whoa.
                                         
                                         Oh my God,
                                         
    
                                         that gave me shivers.
                                         
                                         Indeed.
                                         
                                         The classic.
                                         
                                         Oh, goodness.
                                         
                                         He'll leave you as he finds you
                                         
                                         is another one.
                                         
                                         He'll leave you as he finds you.
                                         
                                         Yeah, God.
                                         
    
                                         Anyway,
                                         
                                         that's given me goosebumps.
                                         
                                         Anyway, the reason I was going to write in for so long was because I am now happily separated. if he was he finds him yeah god anyway that's given me goosebumps anyway
                                         
                                         the reason I was going
                                         
                                         to write in for so long
                                         
                                         was because
                                         
                                         I am now happily separated
                                         
                                         I have
                                         
    
                                         oh I like that
                                         
                                         I have my final hearing
                                         
                                         for my divorce next month
                                         
                                         and will be celebrating
                                         
                                         my divorce
                                         
                                         by going to see
                                         
                                         ah
                                         
                                         MTGM
                                         
    
                                         in the three arena
                                         
                                         on the 30th of November
                                         
                                         ah
                                         
                                         that's lovely
                                         
                                         that's really nice
                                         
                                         normally your stories
                                         
                                         about divorced women
                                         
                                         end by the woman
                                         
    
                                         saying they have
                                         
                                         met someone new
                                         
                                         and are living
                                         
                                         their best life
                                         
                                         I am separated
                                         
                                         three and a half years now
                                         
                                         and have not met
                                         
                                         anyone else
                                         
    
                                         but I'm living
                                         
                                         my best life
                                         
                                         I love her Joanne
                                         
                                         yeah a partner
                                         
                                         is not a happy ending
                                         
                                         I agree
                                         
                                         you have to be happy
                                         
                                         within yourself
                                         
    
                                         before you meet
                                         
                                         somebody else
                                         
                                         to add to your happiness
                                         
                                         or you don't even need
                                         
                                         to meet someone else
                                         
                                         Anne Hathaway
                                         
                                         my good friend
                                         
                                         speaking of Anne Hathaway
                                         
    
                                         which no one brought up but me
                                         
                                         now this is
                                         
                                         I think she is married
                                         
                                         with kids
                                         
                                         but park all that
                                         
                                         I watched her
                                         
                                         yeah she is
                                         
                                         she is yeah
                                         
    
                                         but let's just talk about her she is she is but that's just
                                         
                                         what about her anyway
                                         
                                         but she
                                         
                                         I loved her
                                         
                                         in the princess diaries
                                         
                                         she
                                         
                                         she
                                         
                                         I saw an interview
                                         
    
                                         a snippet on
                                         
                                         TikTok
                                         
                                         where I live
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         she was talking about
                                         
                                         remember everyone
                                         
                                         went really
                                         
                                         anti-Anne
                                         
    
                                         for a while
                                         
                                         like everyone just hated Anne Hathaway do you remember that she got all this bile she was talking about, remember everyone went really anti-Anne for a while.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         everyone just hated Anne Hathaway.
                                         
                                         Do you remember that
                                         
                                         she got all this vile
                                         
                                         and just,
                                         
                                         she was just vilified
                                         
    
                                         and everyone was saying
                                         
                                         she was a,
                                         
                                         like,
                                         
                                         she was a real kind of
                                         
                                         earnest asshole
                                         
                                         and no one liked her
                                         
                                         and she was getting
                                         
                                         trailed all the time.
                                         
    
                                         And she was talking
                                         
                                         about that time.
                                         
                                         I think she'd just done
                                         
                                         La Miserable
                                         
                                         and everyone was like,
                                         
                                         oh,
                                         
                                         look at her crying again.
                                         
                                         She was always
                                         
    
                                         she just comes across
                                         
                                         as quite a
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         she said
                                         
                                         she had to go and do
                                         
                                         loads of therapy
                                         
                                         because
                                         
                                         the person that they
                                         
    
                                         were telling her she was
                                         
                                         she believed them
                                         
                                         and she was like
                                         
                                         if and when this
                                         
                                         pile on ever happens again
                                         
                                         I want to be
                                         
                                         I want to love myself
                                         
                                         so much
                                         
    
                                         that no one
                                         
                                         can tell me anything
                                         
                                         I won't believe anything anything. I won't believe anything
                                         
                                         bad anyone says
                                         
                                         about me because I'm going to love
                                         
                                         myself so much.
                                         
                                         Mental robustness. That's
                                         
                                         what we all are aiming towards. So you're just
                                         
    
                                         bulletproof. As bulletproof as you can be.
                                         
                                         I don't know why this is in relation to this woman.
                                         
                                         I think it's that.
                                         
                                         Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Yourself, yourself, yourself, yourself, yourself. First, first, first, first, first. I actually really like that I think it's No I just love Do you know what I mean Yeah I really Yourself yourself Yourself yourself
                                         
                                         First first first
                                         
                                         I actually really like that
                                         
                                         And people will always
                                         
    
                                         Say shit
                                         
                                         And talk shit
                                         
                                         And you'll always hear shit
                                         
                                         And just ignore it
                                         
                                         Like
                                         
                                         Honestly
                                         
                                         That shit used to get to me as well
                                         
                                         When I'd see stuff written
                                         
    
                                         And now I'm like literally
                                         
                                         I'm just like
                                         
                                         You've no idea what kind of person I am
                                         
                                         I had somebody mail me
                                         
                                         People mail me
                                         
                                         Just random shit
                                         
                                         Someone
                                         
                                         Oh look at the state of
                                         
    
                                         Otto's
                                         
                                         teeth because of
                                         
                                         his soother
                                         
                                         like don't
                                         
                                         I know don't
                                         
                                         bother listening to
                                         
                                         what anyone else
                                         
                                         says and PS
                                         
    
                                         he will be getting
                                         
                                         braces don't worry
                                         
                                         about that
                                         
                                         I will deal with
                                         
                                         that when he's 14
                                         
                                         thank you
                                         
                                         thank you goodnight
                                         
                                         but I understand
                                         
    
                                         what you mean
                                         
                                         about Anne Hathaway
                                         
                                         and I actually
                                         
                                         really like that
                                         
                                         I love it too
                                         
                                         do you know what I'm getting into and again this is about Anne Hathaway and I actually really like that. I love it too.
                                         
                                         Do you know what I'm getting into?
                                         
                                         And again,
                                         
    
                                         this is maybe nothing to do
                                         
                                         with this email
                                         
                                         but it's just
                                         
                                         it's coming out anyway.
                                         
                                         I'm getting into philosophy
                                         
                                         at the moment.
                                         
                                         When I say getting into philosophy
                                         
                                         I follow a philosophy
                                         
    
                                         TikTok account.
                                         
                                         Joanne, I'm sorry
                                         
                                         you're going to have to
                                         
                                         take out your phone.
                                         
                                         I need to know the screen time
                                         
                                         on TikTok.
                                         
                                         I have to know what the screen time is because this is like outrageous.
                                         
                                         I'm into philosophy now, okay?
                                         
    
                                         So I'm just like the odd philosophical.
                                         
                                         She's doing a philosophy course.
                                         
                                         I'm doing a philosophy course on TikTok that comes in three word memes.
                                         
                                         May I remind you what your last philosophical question was on this podcast?
                                         
                                         Was about riding the horse remind you yes it was
                                         
                                         one of the best questions the universe has ever asked us someone I read a quote I don't know who
                                         
                                         it's from I haven't I haven't really got big into the names of the philosophers I just like the
                                         
                                         words and he says um if you don't want criticism, do nothing, be nothing.
                                         
    
                                         Say nothing.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And I was like, it's so true.
                                         
                                         It really rang a bell with me because obviously in life we get criticized.
                                         
                                         And you're like, well, hold on.
                                         
                                         I'm just fucking trying to have a career and do something I enjoy and do something I love so I'd rather do that and take the shit than have no shit
                                         
                                         and not be doing
                                         
                                         what I absolutely love to do
                                         
    
                                         so
                                         
                                         shit on me all you want
                                         
                                         oh
                                         
                                         let's email this woman back
                                         
                                         we should meet her
                                         
                                         I think that we should meet her
                                         
                                         at the
                                         
                                         MTGM show
                                         
    
                                         before we go on stage
                                         
                                         I think that you should come
                                         
                                         and say hello to us
                                         
                                         and we'll toast your divorce
                                         
                                         with you
                                         
                                         let's have a glass of champagne
                                         
                                         before
                                         
                                         we'll open
                                         
    
                                         we'll open the fancy champagne for you and we think that your divorce with you. Let's have a glass of champagne before. We'll open the fancy champagne
                                         
                                         for you
                                         
                                         and we think that you are amazing.
                                         
                                         But I like hearing that
                                         
                                         I'm separated three and a half years
                                         
                                         and I haven't met anyone else
                                         
                                         but I'm living my best life.
                                         
                                         And you have kids
                                         
    
                                         and that makes me
                                         
                                         just feel so happy.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         As a fellow divorcee.
                                         
                                         So will you get in touch with Jo
                                         
                                         if you want to meet us?
                                         
                                         I mean, you don't have to.
                                         
                                         I mean, imagine if she didn't write back.
                                         
    
                                         Imagine if she just blocked us.
                                         
                                         What I would say as well is,
                                         
                                         what am I trying to say?
                                         
                                         I know, do you know what?
                                         
                                         I know, I have known a person
                                         
                                         in every situation in this situation.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And it's, do you get what I I mean I've known a woman whose husband
                                         
    
                                         has had an affair I've known a woman who's had an affair I've known a man who has had an affair
                                         
                                         blah blah do you know what I mean I also know a woman women who've had affairs well they were
                                         
                                         married if you get me and it's always an absolute shit show yeah whatever angle it's a shit show and i think that
                                         
                                         sometimes there's a lot of hate goes towards the other woman in inverted commas because and we're
                                         
                                         talking like this is a very hetero synopsis but let's just i just have to keep going that it went
                                         
                                         it's very easy it's easier to hate the other woman because your feelings for your partner are so
                                         
                                         complicated and you and they probably are still in love with them that it's and to hate the other woman Because your feelings for your partner Are so complicated And they probably are still in love with them
                                         
                                         And the hate has to go somewhere
                                         
    
                                         So it goes to the other person
                                         
                                         And that's just what happens
                                         
                                         I'll be honest
                                         
                                         So I think this is very
                                         
                                         This is very fucking fair play to this woman
                                         
                                         This is very grown up
                                         
                                         But like having been cheated on
                                         
                                         I hate
                                         
    
                                         I kind of
                                         
                                         I still like
                                         
                                         I hate both of them
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Because they're both arseholes
                                         
                                         They are both arseholes
                                         
                                         One is a bigger arsehole
                                         
                                         Everyone's an arsehole
                                         
    
                                         But they're
                                         
                                         Except us
                                         
                                         Everyone is an arsehole
                                         
                                         Except Anon
                                         
                                         Anon is not an arsehole in this
                                         
                                         Everyone's an
                                         
                                         Everyone has
                                         
                                         Everyone has arsehole in them
                                         
    
                                         It's like
                                         
                                         I was watching this show
                                         
                                         And they're like
                                         
                                         Everyone has an arsehole
                                         
                                         Wow
                                         
                                         I was trying to do something nice
                                         
                                         You knew where she was going to take it You knew where she was going to take it.
                                         
                                         You knew where she was going to do it.
                                         
    
                                         Look at her when she tries to be annoyed
                                         
                                         when she's got a hoodie on, sunglasses on.
                                         
                                         It's like I haven't seen you until now.
                                         
                                         I can't work in these conditions.
                                         
                                         I'm into philosophy now Vogue Okay
                                         
                                         Aristotle
                                         
                                         Gemma Collins
                                         
                                         The big pinkers
                                         
    
                                         You should take a photo of me
                                         
                                         I didn't consent to that
                                         
                                         I have to show the listener
                                         
                                         To go back the other way I think the quote was from Albert Hubbard.
                                         
                                         That's who you were quoting.
                                         
                                         Who?
                                         
                                         Albert Hubbard.
                                         
                                         Albert Hubbard.
                                         
    
                                         God, I don't, that name does not ring a bell.
                                         
                                         What was the quote exactly, Jo?
                                         
                                         It is...
                                         
                                         Why is she still laughing?
                                         
                                         Look at her
                                         
                                         She's so professional
                                         
                                         There's only one way
                                         
                                         To avoid criticism
                                         
    
                                         Do nothing
                                         
                                         Say nothing
                                         
                                         And be nothing
                                         
                                         That's it
                                         
                                         Do nothing
                                         
                                         Say nothing
                                         
                                         Be nothing
                                         
                                         That's the only way
                                         
    
                                         You avoid criticism
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Or you could also
                                         
                                         Just not give a shit
                                         
                                         Like Svenny
                                         
                                         Or just
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Shout out Arshael
                                         
    
                                         No actually
                                         
                                         You're not getting criticism
                                         
                                         That's That's That was my Philosophical lesson The other day we're just yeah shout out RSL no actually you're not getting criticism that's
                                         
                                         that's
                                         
                                         that was my
                                         
                                         philosophical lesson
                                         
                                         the other day
                                         
                                         I said wow
                                         
    
                                         and I'm just gonna live
                                         
                                         by that name
                                         
                                         but if this woman
                                         
                                         if you're right
                                         
                                         if you're coming to the show
                                         
                                         DM Jo
                                         
                                         and come backstage
                                         
                                         for a little
                                         
    
                                         for a drink
                                         
                                         if you want to
                                         
                                         you don't have to obviously
                                         
                                         because I know Joanne's a bit
                                         
                                         well you do have
                                         
                                         no you do have to now
                                         
                                         you do have to now
                                         
                                         we've
                                         
    
                                         we've invited you
                                         
                                         it'd be rude not to come we've made a plan stick to now. You do have to now. We've invited you. It'd be rude not to come.
                                         
                                         We've made a plan.
                                         
                                         Stick to it.
                                         
                                         Okay?
                                         
                                         Okay, do we have time for one more?
                                         
                                         Or we'll turn up to your house.
                                         
                                         Hide outside in the bushes.
                                         
    
                                         In our golden jumpsuits.
                                         
                                         Mic'd, ready to go and drag you backstage.
                                         
                                         That's it for this week.
                                         
                                         We'll see you Friday for the main. Thank you.
                                         
