NASA's Curious Universe - Curious Universe: Interpreting Our Universe

Episode Date: July 19, 2021

You’ve probably seen beautiful images of space taken from telescopes around the world and out in orbit.  But how does a bunch of intergalactic information become a vibrant photograph?  And wha...t else can we see, feel, and hear from that data? Scientists Kenneth Carpenter, Kimberly Arcand, and Denna Lambert help us translate the universe.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 So the very first time we worked on the center of our Milky Way galaxy, it just sort of blew my mind. The very first listened through of this piece was incredible. It's this rich field, about 400 light years across of the very core of our Milky Way galaxy. When you hear it, there's this incredible crescendo over on the right side of the dataset. And that crescendo with all of these little beeps and boops going on is, essentially all of the area around this super massive black hole at the very center of our Milky Way galaxy. And it's incredible to be able to hear it because it feels so much more powerful to be able to hear that data versus just looking at it. This is NASA's curious universe.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Our universe is a wild and wonderful place. I'm Patty Boyd, and in this podcast, NASA is your tour guide. You might imagine, NASA scientists spend a lot of time looking at numbers. From huge tables and spreadsheets to complicated diagrams, there's a lot of math involved. But one of the coolest things about studying space is when those numbers turn into a beautiful piece of art. You've probably seen vibrant images of our universe, maybe in a science textbook or on a T-shirt. These photographs are often based on information collected by telegraphs. telescopes and instruments in space. With ever-improving technology, we can learn even more about
Starting point is 00:01:54 our universe from these images and figure out new and interesting ways to use the data we're collecting. We can translate the information into things we can hear and even touch. In this episode, we're going to look at how NASA scientists bring data to life in captivating and surprising ways. Hubble data is used in a huge variety of ways. and people are getting more imaginative, perhaps, as the years go on. That's Kenneth Carpenter. He works as the Hubble Space Telescope Operations Project Scientist. Hubble has been orbiting just above Earth's atmosphere since 1990.
Starting point is 00:02:34 With a clear view of the universe, the Hubble Space Telescope sends us iconic images of space. Chances are, whether you realize it or not, the images you imagine when you think, think of the cosmos probably came from Hubble. Perhaps the most impressive thing of Hubble is the way it's impacted both science and popular culture. I think the biggest value of Hubble has been its ability to inspire people to go on to science
Starting point is 00:03:06 and technical careers, to understand the universe, but also just to appreciate the beauty of the universe. Hubble was launched on space shuttle discovery and put into orbit by a great great world. of astronauts, it has since been upgraded five times by astronauts servicing missions. But unlike a backyard telescope, no one has ever looked through Hubble. That's not how this telescope works. Everything is done digitally, so it's sending down a string of numbers, and then that has to be reconstructed in the ground.
Starting point is 00:03:41 People are used to seeing these brilliant, gorgeous color images. Unlike a cell phone camera, it doesn't just take a snapshot and get it in The pictures that Hubble takes are actually what are called monochromatic, single color. They look black and white, but they could be actually observed at different colors all the way from the ultraviolet, which is bluer than the eye sees and bluer than gets through the Earth's atmosphere, through the visible that the eye does see out into the infrared, which again, the eye isn't sensitive to all the different colors in the infrared, and a lot of it doesn't get through the Earth's atmosphere either. So if we actually want to see a full color image,
Starting point is 00:04:17 see a full color image, we take multiple pictures, and in the simplest case, we take a red, a green, and a blue. You take these three pictures and mix them together to get the overall color balance. You have to pull in the ultraviolet and infrared colors into the visible spectrum. So what we usually do is keep the colors in the right order, but just bring them a little closer together so they all fit. Because we can't see the colors in the ultraviolet and infrared parts of the spectrum, NASA NASA scientists use the closest approximation of colors in the visible light spectrum to represent that information. Hubble is fully digital, recording information in space and sending it down to our computers here on Earth. But NASA has been working on Hubble for quite a while now,
Starting point is 00:05:07 before digital cameras existed. Way back in the 60s when Hubble was first being thought about and designed, there was apparently a concept for using actual film. We found this figure that had been shown in presentations that shows a cutaway of the telescope and it shows a person floating in the back end of the telescope, pulling out a film canister. That's a fun scenario to think about, but not what actually ended up happening. Instead, since 1990, Hubble has been sending back information about our universe digitally. and remotely. While Hubble is NASA's longest running space telescope, it's not the only observatory gathering information from space. Hi, I'm Dr. Kimberly Arcand, and I am a visualization
Starting point is 00:06:02 scientist for NASA's Chandra Xer Observatory. Essentially, I get to use data to tell stories of our universe. I really wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid, but then quickly found out that would not be a suitable career for me since I could barely handle like the tilta whirl at an amusement park. But eventually found my way into coding and coding for me was just kind of a way to kind of help tell stories about science. And I landed my first real job working for Chandra right before Chandra was about to launch. The Chandra X-ray Observatory is another telescope orbiting out in space that gives us a deeper understanding of our universe. Chandra is a sister telescope to the Hubble Space Telescope.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It goes about a third of the way to the moon, and though it's never had a servicing mission, it's been working really beautifully for the past 20-plus years. Like its name suggests, the Chandra X-ray Observatory takes in information about the X-ray part of the spectrum. That part of the spectrum is even bluer than ultraviolet light, neither of which the human eye can see.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You could picture an object in outer space, like a supernova remnant, say 10,000 light years away. That light, that x-ray light from the object, has been traveling towards us for quite some time, and Chandra is essentially pointed towards it. Now that information that's been traveling from that exploded star, it's collected down in the Chander spacecraft and then essentially formed into ones and zero,
Starting point is 00:07:46 It's encoded into binary code and then sent down through NASA's Deep Space Network about every eight hours until it lands at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California, and then eventually goes on its merry way to our laptops here in New England. Once we get the data here at the Center for Asthma Physics, then essentially we use software to translate that information from all those ones and zeros into some sort of other piece of information. For example, it might be a table that tells you all of the location. and the energy levels, or you might take it a step further and create the visual representation of that object as well. Typically, what we're doing is taking that data
Starting point is 00:08:32 and then translating it into some sort of image of, say, the exploded star, and then scientists are using all of like the spectral data, the sort of DNA or the fingerprint of that information in order to analyze and understand what's happening inside or around that object. With this spectral data, scientists can figure out what elements are present in a cosmic object, how far away it is from us, and even how many light years across it is. Working in the X-ray part of the spectrum provides interesting challenges for understanding and communicating about new discoveries.
Starting point is 00:09:11 We are exploring the X-R universe that no human can ever naturally see. Human eyes cannot detect X-ray light. So we have to translate it from one form into another. And we do often prioritize visuals for that, but there's no reason why we can't additionally prioritize sound or touch or, well, probably not smell or taste, but you get the idea. We have primarily been creating two-dimensional images with our chandra data over the past couple of decades. However, we have done other stuff as well, such as time lapse data,
Starting point is 00:09:53 where we're looking at series of information, snapshots, if you will, but collected over time. And then we also started working in three-dimensional models about a decade ago. And then most recently, we started taking that information and translating it into sound and even haptic information, which is touch, like the vibration that you feel on your phone, for example. One of Kimberly's specialties is using information from these telescopes and translating that information into something called a data sonification. I like to say that data sonification is the process that translates data into sound. We're not capturing sound information that the universe is sending out to us, right?
Starting point is 00:10:39 You can't really hear in space because there's no air. There's no stuff, no medium for that information to travel to you through. But there are definitely interesting ways of taking all the information, that we do get from the universe, and translating that into some other form, and sound is just, I think, a really useful version of that that we haven't done perhaps as much with as we could. You've heard data sonifications on this show before
Starting point is 00:11:06 in our episodes about Lansat and Exoplanets. Sonifications are great ways to understand a concept or a data set in a new way. I think it's this idea that we can try new things with our data and one does not necessarily have to be prioritized over the other. There are other ways of knowing our universe and other ways of exploring the things that are out there. There's this incredible sandbox of NASA data to play with.
Starting point is 00:11:38 We have so much other data of the universe and there's always a way to explore it in some new dimension, quite literally sometimes. It's not until you're sort of sitting in that sandbox seeing Am I going to build a sand castle today or just make a little sand angel? What am I going to do with this data? And it sort of shows you where you need to go, but there's always something new to learn.
Starting point is 00:12:06 NASA scientists use data sonifications to better understand different qualities of the cosmic objects in space photographs. Data from Hubble's ultra-deep field image released in 2014 was recently translated into one of these data sonifications. Hubble's first deep field observation, were taken in 1995 and changed our understanding of astronomy. It was a landmark project showing the world a glimpse of just how big our universe really is.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Ken Carpenter has worked with the Hubble Mission for decades now and remembers the story behind the original deep-field image. The basic concept was to find a spot in the sky that appeared to us in existing data to be as blank as possible. Now, at first, that sounds like insane, and members of the astronomical community were not afraid to tell us this. But the idea was, and it was actually very reasonable, was to not have anything in the foreground so you could look as far into space as possible. So we found a spot. It was about a fifth of the size of the full moon, so a pretty small spot on the sky that had almost nothing in it. The original deep-field image was made by taking exposures over a ten-time.
Starting point is 00:13:27 10-day period. And then as time went on, the original deep field was mostly in the visible light. Then we made an enhanced deep field where we added it infrared light after we got a new camera on board telescope that was really good. And then we made what was called the ultra deep field. That was 841 images total stacked together. So you see, we're talking about co-adding, stacking things. It's a lot of images.
Starting point is 00:13:55 The resulting image of this area. that appeared to be totally blank on the sky, had at least 10,000 individual galaxies. And this image is spectacular, because even the small points of light on it are actually galaxies, not stars. There's a few stars in the field, very few. So you have 10,000 galaxies.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Each one has 100, 200, 300 billion stars. You multiply those together, and you're really starting to get up some very large numbers. And then remember, you've only got a tiny area of the sky. So if you multiply by the remaining area of the sky, you find out to talk in very general terms
Starting point is 00:14:37 that the number of stars in the universe that we see over the whole sky is more than all the greens of sand on all the beaches of the world. And it was kind of funny, and when we first did that, we used that analogy. And then several years later, somebody did a reanalysis of the data
Starting point is 00:14:55 and accounted for more of some. subtleties and the observations and said, oh, you know, actually we're a little bit off. It's actually ten times more than that. What you've been hearing is a representation of all the galaxies in that ultra-deep-field photo, played as sound. We start in the present day and go backwards in time, hearing a note for each galaxy when it emitted the light captured in the image. The farther away the galaxy is, the longer its light has traveled before reaching the Hubble
Starting point is 00:15:43 telescope. In just under a minute, we can hear back nearly 13 billion years to the farthest galaxies in that photo. The light we received from those galaxies was emitted when the universe was only a few hundred million years old. It sounds beautiful, right? But data sonifications like this one can also be a helpful tool for NASA employees and citizen scientists the like. Dina Lambert works at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center as a project manager. She previously worked as the Disability Programs Manager. With that department, she helped develop initiatives
Starting point is 00:16:38 to support NASA's workforce of individuals with disabilities. Dina is also blind and experiences a lot of the information from our universe through sound. We are known for our beautiful images that we get back from our satellites. In the area of data sonification, what we find is that while we can see a lot of things with our eyes, we could also interpret a lot of information with our ears
Starting point is 00:17:12 and can gain deeper insights into what we are trying to learn and discover. One of the most impactful parts of the ultra-deep-field sonification for Dina was understanding the scope of time and how many billion years it takes for those galaxies to form. You know, I have the experience of a 40-year-old. We sometimes lose our sense of time. These events happen over thousands and thousands of years. It's hard to kind of wrap my head around it, but at the same time, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:17:49 We can learn a lot from data when it's been translated into a new form, like sound or imagery. But we're also expanding the range of people who have access to work with that data. It's pretty common knowledge that everyone has a different style of learning. People interpret information differently. If we want to provide this information, our science, our findings to us wide of an audience, we should always keep that in mind. We have people with disabilities, blind individuals, deaf individuals in all types of positions, flight directors who are deaf, financial managers who utilize wheelchairs, to electrical engineers who are blind.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Data and information and science should be as much as possible made available to everyone. When Dina found a series of Braille books about Hubble images, they helped open up the world of astronomy for her. So as a early college students, I came across the Touch the Universe books that provided tactile information on the images from Hubble. So I have access to something that was never available to me in print. But when I was able to hear this online through YouTube or through AdASA website, I think looking at the, I believe it was the story. our nursery that was like, oh, wow, now I get it. Now I get the full shape and depth of what I'm seeing. While we may not visually be able to look up in the sky and see it, we have to use, you know, various filters to see that information. I can actually touch it and hear it that makes sense for me
Starting point is 00:19:50 as a blind person. Science is for everyone. The more methods we have to conceptualize and think about scientific information and the more people we can invite to contribute ideas, the fuller our understanding becomes. As technology continues, we are able to touch, listen, and look at information about space. We are interpreting our universe every day and getting closer to a better understanding of our mysterious surroundings. Missions like Chandra and Hubble give us a front row seat to the cosmos, and as we learn about the information they send back, we also learn how to become more curious about the things around us. This is NASA's Curious Universe.
Starting point is 00:20:40 This episode was written and produced by Christina Dana and Elizabeth Tammy. Our executive producer is Katie Atkinson. The Curious Universe team includes Maddie Arnold, Kate Steiner, and Michaela Sosby, with support from Emma Edmund, Anisha Engineer, and Priya Mittal. Our theme song was composed by Matt Russo and Andrew Santa Guida of System Sounds. Special thanks to Rylan Heggy, Jim Jelletic, Claire Andrioli, and the Hubble Space Telescope team. If you have a question about our universe, you can email a voice recording or send a written note to NASA-curious Universe at mail.nazorg. Go to nassah.gov slash curious universe for more information.
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