NASW Social Work Talks - EP96: Sleep Health is a Social Justice Issue
Episode Date: January 17, 2023Sleep is as essential to human well-being as food and air. Poor sleep habits and sleep deprivation can have negative effects on our physical and mental health. Further, racial and ethnic minorities ar...e more likely to get insufficient sleep than their white counterparts. Jessi Pettigrew, MSW, LCSW, is a PhD candidate at the Graduate School of Social Work at Colorado State University. Working with clients, Jessi became curious about the intersection of sleep and mental health. She explains why social workers should be concerned about sleep health, even if they aren't working in a clinical setting. Visit the show notes for resources
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Hi, I'm Kat McDonald, and this is NASW Social Work Talks.
And today we're talking about sleep health.
Sleep is as important to humans as food and air.
And a lot of people, especially Americans, tend to not get enough sleep at night.
Sleep and hygiene is so important because when you don't get enough sleep, that can
have a lot of negative effects on your body and your brain.
So today we're speaking with Jessie Pettigrew.
She is a licensed clinical social worker and a PhD candidate at the Graduate School of
Social Work at Colorado State University.
working with clients jesse became curious about the intersection of sleep and mental health so
i'm excited to speak with jesse to share what she's learned about improving the sleep health
of clients and practitioners alike absolutely welcome jesse thank you thanks for having me
so um can you talk about what made you interested in the topic of sleep absolutely so i noticed that
there was a huge need among the clients that I was serving, both in my inpatient experience and
in outpatient therapy. And I didn't feel like I had a lot to offer them at the time. So that kind
of motivated me to research and kind of learn more about sleep. Also, I had a mentor and supervisor
at our outpatient clinic at the University of Kentucky. And she noticed that there was a clinic
wide need. A lot of people were calling to try to get treatment for insomnia and other sleep
disorders. And at the time we didn't have a therapist who was trained to provide any sort of
behavioral sleep interventions. So those things really motivated me to get trained in cognitive
behavioral therapy for insomnia, which is where I started. And I feel like once I learned a little
bit I wanted to just keep learning because sleep is so fascinating um so I'd say I kind of became
obsessed with all things sleep yeah so how did you learn more like what what kind of things did
you do absolutely so I found some training opportunities in cognitive behavioral therapy
for insomnia and really I just found like an online certification course through PESI
And I can share that resource for your listeners if that would be helpful.
And then after that point, I did get some additional training and some supervision in treating other sleep disorders.
So I was working toward a behavioral sleep specialist certification and then decided to get a PhD.
So I put that on hold for now, but I would love to go back to it at some point.
so it's recommended that adults get between seven and nine hours of sleep every night yes
um can you talk about why our bodies need sleep and why sleep is so beneficial to our for our
bodies absolutely and what can happen when we don't get enough absolutely so um i'm glad that
you gave that range because i think a lot of people get stuck on this idea that we need eight
hours of sleep every night. And that's not true for every person. Every person really has their
own sleep need. So you have to pay attention to your own body and figure out what that is for you.
Also, it can change just based on activity levels and things that we do throughout the day.
So sleep is absolutely crucial for our bodies. So what happens when we're sleeping
is, um, we go through like a process of physical restoration. There's also some memory
consolidation and emotion regulation that happens when we're sleeping. Um, so when we don't do those
things, then as you can imagine, there are consequences from that. So there are physical
and mental health consequences of not getting enough sleep. Um, now I, I also want to provide
the caveat that it's normal to have a bad night of sleep here and there, and that happens to
everyone. So you can have a bad night of sleep without having severe consequences from that.
But generally, even short-term consequences from sleep deprivation include decreased emotion
regulation, distress tolerance, increased negative affect, problems with memory and concentration.
And that can be even from just a few nights of sleep deprivation, which tends to be compounding.
And then chronic sleep deprivation has a whole host of mental health disorders that are associated
and also physical health consequences.
So in terms of mental health things that we see, depression, anxiety, ADHD, especially
in children. So children tend to have kind of a paradoxical effect from sleep deprivation,
which is that they look hyperactive during the day. And so that could actually be a sign of
sleep deprivation. And then in terms of physical health consequences, chronic sleep deprivation
or untreated sleep disorders alter the body's ability to regulate itself because it's unable
to go through those processes that are really important while we're sleeping. So that can lead
to chronic health conditions. So there are links between, again, sleep deprivation and untreated
sleep disorders and cardiovascular disease, heart attack, stroke, cancer, dementia,
um increased risk of accidents so workplace accidents and car accidents so a lot of things
to be concerned about um i do want to say i'm sure we'll talk a little about insomnia disorder
later um but we don't see as dire of health consequences with insomnia disorder and i want
to say that as a point of reassurance because people suffering from insomnia disorder are
terrified of having these consequences, which is actually part of what makes it harder for
them to sleep. So I do also want to provide that caveat. One thing you said that's interesting is
that kids can become more hyperactive when they don't get enough sleep. So it's possible that
kids are maybe getting misdiagnosed with ADHD because they demonstrate these tendencies.
Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think it's more common that primary care doctors and family practitioners are trained in recognizing that, but not everyone is. So it's also a good thing for parents to be aware of.
and also kids can have um sleep apnea and so it could be it could be something that's extremely
treatable so it could be scheduling and the fact that they're not getting enough sleep
or it could require a medical intervention right and that's such a challenge because
school starts so early absolutely and it's you know if they're hyperactive and then they don't
fall asleep and then they have to get up early it's like this cycle absolutely yeah and that's
especially a problem with our teens um so teens naturally have a more delayed sleep schedule which
is completely natural biologically and again some places have done a good job of of doing later
school start times but but places that don't our teens are extremely sleep deprived yeah i see it
yeah yeah yeah so um researchers have found that sleep deprivation is sort of disproportionately
undermines the health of people in communities of color. Can you talk about some of these
disparities that you're finding? Absolutely. So first, I just want to say that there is no
biological reason why Black folks and people of color have worse sleep outcomes. So researchers
believe that this is because of the effects of systemic racism. So things like living in
neighborhoods with more exposure to light and noise pollution. And air pollution also can
cause increased rates of sleep apnea. Also, the impact of racism itself is stressful, obviously.
And we know that prolonged stress exposure is not good for our sleep. So it's for these reasons
and others that we see those differences in sleep based on race and ethnicity.
And researchers believe that sleep disparities may be at least one of the mechanisms that
are contributing to poor health outcomes generally and lower life expectancy, especially
in the Black community.
If you think about it, we have to have some level of privilege to be able to achieve healthy
sleep.
So we have to have the opportunity, the timing, lack interruptions, you know, lack of stress. Not that any of us have lack of stress, but yeah, it's a huge issue.
Yeah. So how can social workers help people who are in a situation where there are all these barriers to getting a good night's sleep?
That's a great question. I think first we have to recognize that and then that can put us in a position where we can better advocate for communities, especially like built environment.
So when like low income neighborhoods are being built, if if we can kind of intervene at that point, that would be ideal because then we can advocate for things like exposure to natural light, green space.
So all the things that we know are good for our health generally are also tend to be good for our sleep.
and yeah I think just awareness and then things like light and noise pollution on an individual
level you can try to kind of counteract some of those things but I think really the work that
needs to be done is just like the bigger advocacy in the macro level systemic changes that need to
take place. Right. Um, so why do you think social workers should be concerned about sleep health,
even if they're not working in a clinical setting? Yeah, absolutely. Um, I think that
again, um, in order to sleep in a healthy way, it requires some level of privilege. And so
access to healthy sleep is a social justice issue in my mind. Everyone does not have the same access
and there are so many layers to that. But just to name a few, there's the environmental issues that
we discussed. But I also think about individuals who are unhoused, who are incarcerated, living in
any other type of suboptimal situation. And you think on top of dealing with everything else that
they're dealing with um imagine trying to sleep in those conditions and environments and of course
your sleep is terrible because you're concerned with safety and survival on a basic level
so then imagine how you feel I guess when those compounding consecutive days of poor sleep
sometimes years of poor sleep and I just think about trying to feel at all like a healthy
human being when that's your sleep situation. So, and it's not just how you feel. I mean,
we know that that lack of sleep is doing real damage to people's bodies and minds. And then
we expect people to rise above the situation that they're in, and we're really putting them
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Can you talk about cognitive behavioral therapy and how that might help people who are experiencing
some insomnia or sleep deprivation? Absolutely. I love talking about
cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia. So I think that a good place to start is talking about
a little bit about insomnia generally. So insomnia is interesting because it really doesn't follow
all the same rules of other sleep disorders and sleep deprivation. So a person suffering from
insomnia has what we call an adequate opportunity for sleep. So they have the space, they have the
time, but they still have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep or both, despite having that
opportunity. They tend to be extremely dissatisfied with sleep. And I commonly came across
individuals in clinical practice who felt very dismissed when talking about their symptoms of
insomnia. Often they're kind of assumed to be part of another mental health diagnosis like
depression or anxiety. But what we know about insomnia is that once it exists, even if there's
another mental health disorder on board, then it's really hard to resolve on its own. So CBTI
or cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia is fabulous and works really well in my experience.
um so CBTI itself is a cluster of behavioral approaches um so what we would do first is we
would um have our client just track their sleep for a couple of weeks so usually two to three
weeks just to kind of get a baseline of what is happening with sleep and we do this with
sleep diaries. So everyone always asks about the watches and the watches don't do as good a job
capturing our sleep as sleep diaries do. Oh, like Fitbit or Apple watch. Yes, absolutely. It's a
good, it gives you a good idea. Um, but they are not super accurate. So, and also I like the sleep
diaries because then the individual is kind of engaged in like thinking about, well, how did I
sleep last night? Um, what time did I go to bed? What time did I wake up? So then we would look at
those together, um, in our, probably like our second session. And, um, what we're looking for
is how much time is the person in bed versus how much sleep are they actually getting while they're
sleeping. So a lot of times with insomnia, there's a mismatch of those things. So someone might be in
bed for a much longer time than they're actually sleeping. And we call this sleep efficiency.
So we would look at that sleep efficiency and we would match the time in bed with the time that
they're actually getting. And then over time, we can extend that. They would continue to do sleep
diaries. And then once they start to fill up that time with sleep, then we start to extend that.
The other strategy that I think more people have probably heard of is called stimulus control.
And this is the idea that when I'm in bed, I'm sleeping. And if I'm not sleeping, I'm not in bed
and sometimes not even in my bedroom. So the only things that you should be doing in your bed
are sleeping. The only exception to that is sex. So what we tell people with insomnia is
remove everything from your bedroom. Do not watch TV, do not read in bed, do not eat in bed.
And to go even beyond that, if you're not sleeping, then the recommendation is to get up.
so even if this is your time to be sleeping and you're not sleeping then you get up and what the
stimulus control does is it conditions your brain that okay if i'm in bed i'm sleeping
so over time that can help to improve your sleep efficiency as well yeah yeah hanging out in bed
watching tv eating popcorn talking on the phone yeah it's lovely and and if you don't have a
problem with sleep some of those things might be fine but um if you have a problem with sleep you
need to cut cut it out yeah yeah separate the two activities absolutely sleep is for sleep
bedroom is for sleep everything else happens outside the bedroom absolutely nice calm
environment. Yes. It's a sanctuary for sleep. Yeah. So what are some of ways that social workers
can help folks? I know that there's some tools that you use in your practice. Can you talk about
some of those? Yes, absolutely. So I think that for clinical social workers specifically, the
highest impact and lowest effort thing that we can do is to simply be screening our clients for
sleep problems and talking to our clients about sleep. So I usually start with just some general
questions about sleep. And I do that on purpose just to kind of get a feel for how someone is
feeling about their sleep and what might be going on. So I would start with things like,
how would you describe your sleep? What time do you usually go to sleep? What time do you usually
wake up? Any problems that you've noticed with your sleep? Do you feel refreshed upon waking
and throughout the day? Do you require naps throughout the day? That's a sign that someone
is not getting enough sleep or has an untreated sleep disorder. So I would say if you only have
time to do one sleep assessment for the sake of safety, I would do the Epworth Sleepiness Scale.
And this is really impactful because the sleep disorders that are causing daytime sleepiness are the most dangerous.
So things like sleep apnea, hypersomnolence disorders, which is a little less common, circadian rhythm disorders, which are pretty common.
And a lot of these are really easily treatable once they're diagnosed, but they have to be
diagnosed and assessed by sleep medicine specifically.
So the scoring is really simple.
And if you see the upworth, you would just get kind of a basic score.
If your client scores over 10, which is the threshold for concern, then your next step
would be to refer them to your local sleep center or sleep clinic. You can also refer them back to
their primary care doctor and just kind of help coach them of this is what you need to talk to
your doctor about. This is the concern. You have what we consider excessive daytime sleepiness.
Now, a side note, since we were talking about insomnia disorder,
your clients with insomnia disorder won't always have a high score on the effort they sometimes do
but it's less common um but it doesn't mean that they're not suffering as well
treatment would be really different though because there's that kind of um extreme desire to sleep
and almost like too much effort to sleep um so you could you could refer them specifically to
a behavioral sleep specialist or a clinician who's trained in CBTI, or I would love if everyone
just gets trained in it and can, can help clients through that themselves. That would be fabulous.
But a sleep clinic or sleep center may or may not be able to help with that. I know more sleep
centers are hiring people who can do the behavioral sleep interventions, but you,
you would have to ask them because they don't always have the professionals to do that.
Right. So what kinds of treatments can people expect if they are sort of coming with high
scores on these assessments? Absolutely. That's a great question. So
you could expect if you meet with a sleep medicine provider that they would do kind of
your typical appointment where they would ask lots of questions about your sleep.
Um, if you're having excessive daytime sleepiness, that's not explained by like,
you know, keeping yourself up every night to study or to work. Um, if it's kind of an
unexplained problem and you're, you seem to be getting enough sleep, then they would do, um,
it's called polysomnography or a sleep study so this is i know a lot of people are familiar with
like you have to go to a lab and sleep overnight and that is what it is but a lot of sleep centers
now seem to have a take-home test so don't let that stop you if you're worried that you won't
be able to sleep in a lab because that's a pretty common concern um they do have the ability to send
you home with some of those devices not every place does and it kind of depends on your specific
presentation but um that's that's essentially what i would expect um if i were referred to a sleep
center yeah and then what would they like what would they if somebody has this assessment and
then they yes you have an issue what what what can we do what what do they what could they expect
Absolutely. So the most dangerous kind of sleep disorder, and I'd say the one that's most commonly assessed and diagnosed by sleep centers is sleep apnea. And this, the treatment for sleep apnea is generally a CPAP, which you would wear at night.
um a lot of people are also resistant to CPAPs for good reason and and it's especially scary
if you don't know what to expect so you can talk to your sleep medicine provider about what that
looks like they've improved significantly since like even in the past 10 years um so they're not
as cumbersome as they once were and there are other things but potential interventions like
even things like sleep positioning and like an oral device now that you can wear. So
please don't let that stop you because untreated sleep apnea is extremely dangerous and causes all
these other horrible health consequences that we've talked about and ultimately a shorter life
expectancy. So please, please go and get assessed if you believe that that's a problem for you.
right okay um so is there anything that you wanted to add to the conversation that i didn't ask
i think you've done a really good job and we've covered a lot of ground um
i i think the takeaways are just understanding that why sleep is so important and when you have
that understanding as a social worker, whether you're in a clinical setting or you're a macro
level social worker, then that knowledge is power. And that can help you to advocate for
individuals for things like housing first and shorter sentences and the things that we care
about anyway. It can just kind of be another tool to help with advocacy. And then in a clinical
setting, it's important for the reasons that we talked about, you know, when there's an untreated
sleep disorder, then it's also really hard to treat mental health symptoms like depression,
anxiety, bipolar disorder. Those things tend to get better if we treat also a sleep problem.
good thank you jesse pedigree i really appreciate you coming and chatting with
us about this important topic thank you and yeah and for everyone uh watching and listening i will
put links to resources for social workers in the description and in the show notes
um thank you so much jesse and thank you for watching and listening thanks for having me
Thank you.
