National Park After Dark - Acadia National Park, Just Skip It! ft. Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to National Park After Dark. I'm Danielle. I'm Cassie. And we have a really fun episode today. We just finished up and I'm still laughing and smiling because this is such a good time. We have some really fun guests on today to kind of do a follow-up to an episode that we did a few months ago that people really enjoyed. Yeah. So if you tuned into our episode a few months ago where we went to all the bad reviews, on the Park Service. We have decided to come back to that because you guys came back and said, we love this. We want to hear more bad reviews of parks. So today we're picking on Acadia National

Park a little bit because we love it, all in good fun. And we have Zandi and Christine from Beach to Sandy Water to Wet podcast with us today. Yeah, and it's kind of like a full circle moment because that was the inspiration for that episode because we've been huge fans and we've been huge fans and listen to them. And if you're not familiar with their podcast, they take reviews of all types of different things. They were just saying they just reviewed dude ranches. I think the one I listened to today was about jewelry. Like it's anything and everything. Yeah, I listen to one about puzzles where people are really up in arms about puzzles. And they just have great banter and great reviews, or horrible reviews, I should say, that people leave that are really funny to listen to. Yeah. So today,

we have the honor of having them. We're taking them to Acadia and trying to convince them to go in a backwards way. But we hope you guys enjoy. And are also convinced to go. Yes. And please share your good experiences

or poor experiences of whatever park you'd like. But yeah, Acadia is on the chopping block today. All right. Well, hello, Christine and Zandi from Beach 2 Sandy, water too wet. Thank you so much for being here. We're so excited.

It's an honor. Big fans. Feels like a natural collab. We're very excited that you guys reached out. Yeah, we're super excited. And I think our listeners are going to be really excited about this two. One, because we know that they love your podcast. But also, we did a episode not too long ago where we did one of reviews of National Parks.

And people were like, you got to do more of this. Please, this is so funny. Especially are wild. There's something that crossover there is just, yeah, it gets really crazy. Yeah, people really love, we do too much, like, loving on the national park system day to day. And then so when we have an opportunity to share some. Like dunk on them for a minute. Yeah.

People eat that up. Yeah. Yeah. So we decided to pick a park that's kind of near and dear to us. It's our like hometown national park. It's the only one that we have. Seven hours away. Oh.

It's the only we have up here. Yeah. Right in your backyard. Yeah. I mean, I live in Maine in the state, and it's still five hours away for me. That's really wild. Okay. Yeah.

So we decided to pick Acadia. Have either of you been? I know we were kind of just talking. Yeah. Literally just to see one lighthouse. And I was planning on going to more, but I had a lighthouse and puffin cruise to get to. You know, I just have things to do. When you get a puff and cruise.

Oh, we did the puff and cruise up there. You did? Oh, my God. I'm the only one here who hasn't done a puff and cruise. Yeah. You have to do it. I didn't even know because we're up. I didn't know that for a while either and we did it for my bachelorette.

Yes. I need to get married again. That sounds like a fun. I got to go to that one. Your Vegas one was fun, but I want to be invited to a puff and cruise. A much classier type of bachelorette, I would say. Like very mild.

Yeah, just like low key. We're all just kind of like in ponchos. We went kayaking. Getting seasick looking at birds. I'm just puking over the edge. A lot of water activities. It's a little. Well, hiking is too far. All right, we've gone too far. I'm not doing that on my bachelor's.

We're going. Water activities. Sorry, Danielle looks like I just yelled at her. Like, how dare you, first of all? Do you know where you are? Yeah, I did react a little too vehemently. I apologize. It's okay. It wasn't my Bachelorette, but I was happy for the activities happening. But no, is it obvious? I've not been to Acadia. But I've heard it's beautiful. It is. Yeah, it's really nice. You won't hear that. that today. You won't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, according to, not a pretty ill. Yeah, we don't care about it. Yeah. Yeah. So, for anyone who isn't familiar with Acadia, of course, it's located in Maine. It's right on the Atlantic coast. It's super beautiful. It's like the classic pines going right into this rocky shore going right into the ocean. It's super

picturesque. It was established back in 1919. And like we mentioned, it's one of the only parks in our area. but a lot of people love going here. Number one, because the ocean and the mountains kind of combo, but also because there's this place in the park that's super famous. It's called Cadillac Mountain. And most of the year, it's the place you can see the sunrise first on the East Coast. So people like really love going there. It's a whole thing.

We also did that for your Bachelorette. We got up at fucking 3 a.m. Oh, well, that part. That sounds less, right? And to top it off, we should. should write a bad review. I'm just kidding. But we got to the top.

It was so foggy. We didn't get a view. It was completely dark. We just stood there. You couldn't see five feet in front of you, never mind a sunrise. And it was freezing. It was like raining. And we got up super early and then we just.

One time, Alexander asked. What is it about sunrises where you just assume it's going to be visible? And then you show up and you're like, oh, wait, there's weather. He had gotten a camera and he wanted to use it to watch the sunrise. And it was just all fog. And I sat in the rocks. And their only photo we have is me just sitting there dejected all sad. And she thought it was really funny.

But I did get to see the at West Quaddy Point up there near Lubeck, the first sunrise for the U.S. because that's the farthest east point. Yeah, that's cute. That's really cool. I love Maine. Yeah. Have you tried, this is kind of off topic, but also not. Have you tried lobster ice cream?

No. Well, okay. I don't know about, well, I'm vegan. That sounds like doubly not vegan, but I was dying to find a vegan lobster roll and I couldn't find one. That feels like a tough one. That feels like a tough one to replicate. Yeah. I don't need a lobster version of ice cream, though.

But that's okay. I'm not vegan and that sounds kind of terrible. It sounds disgusting. It sounds horrible. I do love both of those things separately. Do you have a review of it like in your head? One to five stars? What do you read it?

I didn't even touch it. Oh, yeah. Okay. I know. I drew a line. Yeah, but it's either all lobster or blueberries up here. Oh, right. Yeah, the more natural fit for an ice cream, I would argue.

Yes, I agree. Well, so how we're going to do this is we're going to kind of like go through Acadia and some of the biggest stops that people tell everyone they should do when they're here. So we'll start off with a ghost tour because that is one of our favorite ways to explore a new place. The first things we do is either, I don't know, like a historic. historic walking tour or a paranormal tour. I will accept both. And I feel like they go hand in hand sometimes. You know, you get a little history lesson on a ghost tour.

Yeah, I did one of Boston. It was like a big mix of like, oh yeah, all this old stuff. Yeah. Ghosts and ghosts. Yeah. So we actually have not done a ghost tour in Maine, which feels. Oh, you should. I know.

Feels like a missed opportunity. Get married. Or I will and we can do it. I would do the ghost hunt, not the nested waking up at 3 a. and not the kayaking, but I would do a ghost hunt. Yeah, renew your vows up here. I might. Yeah, that's a thing.

Or just let's just go. Okay, we could just do that too. Let's just do it. There's obviously a lot of parks have, you know, spooky ties and their own fair share of hauntings and certain things just as we're like everything else in the world. But this part of Maine, or this park is actually really interesting because it first started off. Like when you think of national parks, you think of like, I don't know, big white. Wild open spaces, lots of wildlife, just undeveloped areas.

But Acadia is a little bit different because it kind of started off as like this Gilded Age, wealthy summer escape for a lot of people. And there was a lot of like really beautiful ornate mansions. And it's like, it's kind of like the Hamptons. Like summering there. Yeah. Yeah. They'd summer in Maine.

And there was a lot of bougie things going on. And there was a lot of like human presence versus like this is a lot of. of just wild open land we should protect. But a huge fire came through and destroyed almost everything. But so because of the tragedy and a lot of human presence before, there's a lot of spooky stories and stuff. So yeah. Yeah. So of course, there are a lot of different tour operators that have ghost tours in Bar Harbor, which is the town. That is the gateway town to Acadia National Park. And we decided to pick somebody who was upset about their experience. Because why not?

Because why not? So, Christine, you can go first. I would love to. Okay. Okay. So this is a review by Sean and it's of the Bar Harbor Ghost Tours. It's a two-star review. I really, truly, honestly wanted to love this ghost tour.

I'd been so excited for it leading up to my vacation to Acadia. I can't express how let down I was with how lackluster and flat-out boring this ghost tour is. If I could offer some advice on how to run this tour, the first thing I would suggest, not having the first stop at Ledglon lasts literally 30 minutes. I noticed others in the tour becoming antsy and yawning and slouching as we reached minute 20 of the dull history of the family who lived and owned Ledgelon. Not the slouching. Oh, and I love how he's like. When our mom say when we were slouching?

She had a word slumping. Don't slump like this. Don't slump like this. Anyway. That's from Princess Diaries. Oh, that's what it was? Yeah. Okay, so she, our mother quoted Princess Diaries. That's wild. Anyway, I got slouching. I

had a teacher who used to hit me with a ruler if I slouched down. Are you 95 years old? I know, it's crazy, but she was, it was in first grade and she was like, not hard. She was naming me ours. First grade. It was first grade. And I remember my teacher was like 70 years old. And she'd be like, sit up. And she went with a ruler. Wow. I mean, we went to Catholic school. So I would have thought like, nun, you know, an angry nun.

It was public school. They lived in the school and everything. They were buried in the school and everything. Okay, buried. We walked over their graves every day on the way to chapel. Yeah. Anyway. Okay.

The group is slouching. This is how it goes with these reviews. We don't actually talk about them. Okay. Sorry, we derail. Okay. So, blah, blah, blah. Everyone's slouching during the boring 20 minutes of dull history.

Get to the ghost stories. we don't need the whole tedious history of a family we don't know nor care about. First of all. Why are you there? Unless we as a group are actually entering the supposedly haunted locations, the ghost stories should be snappy and fast-paced and full of scares of ghost stories to be drawn out and lead the yawns from a tour group. Moving on to our second location, the graveyard itself was dark and foggy and wonderfully spooky,

all things you want in a ghost tour location. Unfortunately, at this point, the group was shown purported pictures of ghosts, taken at the graveyard. My tip, don't show these photos to the groups. Most giggled at these photos because they are so obviously not ghosts. The most egregious picture is just a blurry photo of a man in modern day clothing with a crew cut. A crew cut. Maybe that family that owned Legion had crew cuts and that's a ghost of one of them. And if you were listening to the history, Oh, my God. The moderate acclimate crew cut,

but it's supposedly the ghost of a man from the 19th century. To even show this photo to us was almost insulting to our intelligence. After this, we walked down to the Criterion Theater. We couldn't go inside, but the privilege of being able to enter the theater is not a guarantee every tour, so I took no issue with that. Once again, however, we were regaled with less than interesting minutia of the history of the theater. Now, I love history. Okay.

No, you don't. Oh, I had to learn about some family, I don't know. I had to learn history that I love. I hated it. As a history lover myself, but I didn't take this tour for history lectures. I'm here for creepy ghost tales. The history of the theater as a speakeasy would be much more fascinating

if I wasn't on a ghost tour and expecting ghost stories. By the time we moved on to our last location, I was so checked out. I couldn't have cared less about the ghost story and the EVP played for. us. This was the slowest-paced, dullest ghost tour I've ever had the displeasure of partaking in. And as I already stated, I really wanted to have a great and spooky time. My ultimate pieces of advice, get to the ghost story sooner, don't bore us with the history of people we don't have anything invested in, don't show us obviously fake ghost photos and don't have us standing

around in one location for more than 10 minutes. I give this tour two stars because Bar Harbor at night was fantastically spooky in the fog. So the weather, I'm giving points to the weather. Wow. How generous. Wow. That's the end of the review. That explains the second star though. Oh, you know what?

Star for the weather. Yeah, sometimes you're surprised all the way through and you're like, two stars. How generous for someone who's so mean. Yeah. And then this one, okay, weather gets a point. It's the fog. Yeah. I love how they were like, just get to the ghost.

I want the ghost. And they're like, could care less about the EVPs. You know what? I mean, EVP. I wasn't even listening. That's more than I've ever, I've never seen an EVP. was on a ghost tour personally. Yeah, I feel like that's not really...

It feels above and beyond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, once they saw the crew cut, they checked out. How dare you? Dare you. What a bold...

If they were using a fake... Like, why would they use that photo then? Like, it just seems so ridiculous. Yeah, right. I think I would question a ghost with a crew cut as well. I'd be like, wait a second here. Hang on. 19th century.

Yeah, well, Cassie and I went, we tell the story a lot, so I'll make it quick. But Cassie and I went on a ghost tour that I don't think we'll ever have an experience like this again. We kind of like topped out. So we went to, we were in San Diego and we stayed at the Cosmopolitan Hotel, which was supposed to be like obviously super funny. Cassie actually had a little experience there. But we took this ghost tour and usually I'm the one who books them. And I was like, let's do a little something different. Let's shake it up.

So I wanted to, which was a mistake. But I booked this guy who had a lot of great reviews, but it just wasn't their traditional, like, you're with a group and they're going through something similar to what we just heard about. Right. So this guy, like, he's like, meet me in the square of all the town. This dark corner of this dark corner. We're like, and so we're kind of, we're with four people. There's four people in our group. And we're like, where is this guy?

He comes like out of the bushes. He's like, hello. Dressed in plain clothes. Like, no indicator that he runs anything, like, at all. So not even like an ID. You know, like sometimes there's a lamier. That's like no. A lantern and that gives him immediate authority.

Some guy with a crew cut just like jumps out. Yeah. No light source, let alone a lantern. No light source. Oh, my God. So we're like, hi. And he's like, you know, obviously he's like here for the ghost storm. We're like, yeah, sure. And he brings us to just around the old town, San Diego Square or whatever. But he doesn't give us any back. This person would have loved it. We didn't get any history at all of any building. He was just like, yeah, so I had my first paranormal experience when over here at the, what was that really haunted place? The Whaley House. The Whaley House. Yeah. He's like, that's what like opened this whole thing up. And every stop was.

legitimately what he sensed and felt. No history, no context. None. He's like, this is where Mary is. Anyway, and we're like, who the fuck is Mary? And then he's like, he would be like mid-sentence. He's like, oh, hold on, you. And he would like point to one of us.

And we're like, he's like, put out your hand. Stop. And go like this. He's like, do you feel that? Stop. Do you feel that? We're like, uh, he's like, close your eyes. He's like, there's a little boy.

right there. What a way to start that. Put your hand here. You're touching a little boy ghost. No, I don't think so. And that was it. That was the whole tour for like an hour and a half. So we couldn't tell you one thing about Old Town, any of the buildings.

You don't even remember the name of the Whaley House. That's incredible. Yeah, truly. Yeah. Anyway, I think his name was Joe. Joe wants a podcast. Joe needs a podcast. I hope he's doing well.

need. It's a ghost tour we'll never forget. That is true. I think I might not forget it either. It's just hearing about. Okay. Shout out, Joe. Thanks so much for that.

Okay, so we are going next to hotels, and there's a lot of historic hotels in and around Bar Harbor, and I kind of went off script. I'm like, I'm just going to pick one that somebody's really mad about. It has no like real. It was actually, it's an older hotel. It opened about a hundred years ago, but it's obviously been like renovated and a bunch of times. And this woman, well, it was a woman, but I think she was using her husband's account, Howard 182 from September of 2021. The review is the inn at Bay Lodge, which I don't think we've been to, Cassie. I was like a lot of the hotels and stuff,

I recognize, but I didn't recognize this one. But here we go. Here's the review, one star. I am a widely traveled 79-year-old woman. My husband is 81. We have traveled extensively in Europe. We've been to the Middle East, in Japan, in Latin America, and all over the USA. We have camped.

We have stayed in hotels, ins, B&Bs, and tents. But we've never had an experience quite like the horrible one we had at the Inn at Bay Ledge. This is a good start. It's like, okay, so you're better than us. I got it. Yeah, I mean, clearly from the first word of this review. Like, I went to the Middle East. I love that.

The Middle East, yeah. Just like, what a drop. Who cares? She just had to set the scene of how well-traveled they are, I guess. Okay, we arrived on the Saturday of Labor Day weekend. We were impressed with the location of the inn on a bluff overlooking Frenchman's Bay. Alas, we were not assigned. one of the rooms with a view in the main lodge, but rather to a room in a sort of cabin

across the road. We did not complain, however, nor did we say anything about the mustiness of the room. We were disturbed, however, by the fact that the toilet was running as though it was filling up, even though we hadn't flushed it. And it ran not constantly, but in spurts, so we couldn't even treat the sound as white noise. So it's like intermittent white noise. That's what I was complaining. I'm like, yeah, I feel that. That's kind of a problem. I can't.

Yeah. We complained later in the day to the owner, Jack. He said he would check on it, but that night we had to close the door to the bathroom to keep the noise out. The next day, Jack came to our room while we were out and left a note scrawled on a piece of paper. I quote, best for now, turn valve online, turn off valve to stop. So turn to plumbing off if you'd want the door. Oh, no. We had some trouble flushing the toilet later that day, but my husband reached into the tank to try and fix it, and he did, at least temporarily. It still ran. That night, we got home from dinner at 9.45 p.m., the toilet was completely broken. It would not flush at all. My husband looked inside the tank, but couldn't see what was wrong this time. So we called the numbers listed on the sheet of paper we were given at check-in, including the number that said, quote, if you need immediate attention. No response. We

called three numbers. It's like, just give it up. Just call it off. It's fine. It's like broken toilet. It's not, yeah. It's not that deep. The idea of sticking my hand in the tank, like, do that, whatever, my own toilet,

I'll stick my hand in the tank. In a hotel. Why are you even doing that? The fact that you, I don't know. A musty hotel at that. I would not touch a hotel toilet intimately. I can see that an intimate. I think I just have a less germ.

I'm not germify. It just seems off. I'm like, first of all, I don't trust myself. To do what? Fuck it up. I'm just going to fuck it a more. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the spurting, I'm not going to make it spurt less.

Then you're just like, I didn't touch anything. That's true, too. It's like the liability. You know, you probably sign some waiver. It says toilet issues. You got to not touch it. Hands off. My hotel.

Hands off the toilet. Yeah. Finally, my husband crossed the street to the main lodge and found another number. This time, Jack answered, and in a few minutes came to our room. When he arrived, we told him the problem. He began screaming, and I mean screaming at my husband. You broke it.

I had it fixed and you broke it. See? See? And don't touch toilets that aren't yours. Oh my God. He screamed at the top of his lungs over and over. I told him we couldn't spend the night in a room without a toilet, which seems weird for somebody who's been camping.

That's so true. Very good. I don't know. I would be mad. I've left. hotel rooms or asked to switch hotel rooms for broken toilet. But have you been to the Middle East? Yes, we have.

Well, then you earned it. And it wasn't there where I asked to switch back. It's just so well traveled just gives you an automatic point. I mean, it's crazy because people who are have traveled to the Middle East and have seen toilets over there. This feels like not that big. Maybe that's but now she's like, but now like. like there's a toilet she should be grateful yeah yeah there's just a hole in the ground

there's a lot over yeah national parks I think you know something about them their toilets are terrible and this person's been oh yeah not in a bad way it's like oh at least I have something but like yeah it's just our national park toilets terrible or did Zambi just like slainer oh yeah no you fight for your life oh okay it's a hit or miss I would say I will say I've been to some that have like some great facilities. Oh, here he goes, backtracking. I've never been in an Acadia toilet, though. So that area, what can I say?

I don't know, not much. In their defense, they're very understaffed right now with that. That is true. I wonder why that would happen. So true. Yeah. Okay, here we go. He screamed at the top of his lungs over and over.

I told him we couldn't spend another night in a room without a toilet. Then he began screaming at me. You are nagging me. quit nagging. You're nagging me. Stop it. At one point, he flung open the door of the room and screamed, get out, just get out and go someplace else. Oh my God. Of course, as elderly people at night in a town where every available room was already

taken on this holiday weekend, we had nowhere to go, which actually is very valid. Acadia in Labor Day weekend is a nightmare. Yeah, I can only imagine. You're not. I forgot that they were elderly too. Yeah, there is also. She made that very clear in the room. line. I must be. Well, traveled 71 year older. Yeah, the first line, huh? Yeah. I told him we would not pay for the night and that we needed some solution. He kept screaming at me. For a split second, I thought about calling the police. Oh. Finally, he went into the bathroom and started working inside the tank of the toilet. By that time, it was at least 10.10 p.m. He worked on the toilet for about 20 minutes, muttering that we had broken it. He's like, their toilet. I'm so sorry, those mean people. I told you.

It's an intimate thing. It's an intimate thing. You're right. After that, he sheepishly admitted that he had a plumber in sometime before and the plumber had not set the valve correctly. And he complained about the money he had paid to the plumber. He promised to have it fixed the next day and apologize for yelling, but we still had no solution for the night.

Finally, he said he would get us. This man just yelled at you and said you were nagging him. I would not be sleeping at this point. I'd be like traumatized. Well, he's offering a solution. Oh, finally. He said he would. bring us a bucket for the night.

Stop! That's not okay. Can you imagine flushing the toilet with a bucket in a hotel room? In my head, they're pooping in the bucket. Yeah, yeah. Same. In the bucket for flushing. Okay.

She clarified. If you dump a bucket of water in, it like whooshes. I thought it was the new toilet. Okay. It doesn't spurt. It washes. Okay. It's a good.

It's a good. It's a good. Yeah. We have no choice. Jack left and about 15 minutes later, he returned. turned with the filthiest bucket I have ever seen. You found the dirtiest one on the property. It was caked in mud.

It was caked in mud inside and out. It was caked in mud inside and out. I didn't even want this bucket near me. And I certainly didn't want to touch it. I took a photo of the bucket, but I don't know how to upload it to this site. My elderly. The bucket had a very wide mouth. so that it was impossible to pour without spilling filthy water on the toilet seat and onto the floor.

It was revolting. But again, we had no choice. I couldn't even lift the bucket. We made it through the night, though after being screamed at, we had a hard time relaxing enough to go to sleep. We decided to check out in the morning, thus cutting our vacation by two days. We drove back to Boston and got a flight home at great expense because it was so last minute. All because of this toilet, by the way.

I mean, this toilet has caused some cigarettes. Jack's wife apologized profusely and of course didn't charge us for the night without the toilet nor for the other two nights that we were supposed to be there. Of course, because it was Labor Day, she could not get a plumber. And even if she could have, we were not going to stay in that room with a plumber working there all day. I think she should have just refunded our money for the first night also, but we were so glad to get out of there that we didn't argue about it. I do not recommend this in because I think the owner, a man almost as old as we were, is kind of losing it.

I know I said I'm elderly. This guy is off as rocker. I feel sorry for Jack's wife and the other employees. Well, to be fair, he just said that nagging word like a hundred times. Yeah. And I did have to note because I had to look into this, of course, because I'm like, God, because there were other reviews that weren't as in depth of this, but kind of the same vibe of like, it was kind of gross and like run down and whatever.

I'm like, what's going on with this? But the inn is under new management and it looks beautiful now. Intriguing. Okay. So there was like this lovely couple in their dog from Idaho and they're like, yeah, we bought it like last year and it needed some love. Yeah, I've heard. Lightly. We needed a lot of love.

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Okay. Do you want to talk about Jordan Pond, Cassie? Yeah. So next on our stop, if everyone's enjoying their tour of Acadia so far. I don't wait for no real deal them now. Yeah, I feel like I've seen it already. Basically, you've seen the best corners of it. The next stuff is at Jordan Pond, which is this beautiful, iconic spot that when you go to Acadia, it's kind of like the place to go. And it's this restaurant that it's a restaurant that it's a restaurant and gift shop that overlooks Jordan Pond and also the bubbles, which are these mountains that are shaped in like half circles. So they're called the bubbles. And it's beautiful. And they're known for their popovers, which is like you go there, you have a popover, you have their blueberry lemonade. They have other food and stuff too, like classic lobster and a bunch of other dishes.

But during the summer, they have all out on the lawn overlooking this pond. You can sit outside. Servers come and bring you these. Oh, lovely. They do tea time with your popovers. So you get like fancy tea and your popovers and jam and butter and bread. And it's just like this fancy, beautiful, elegant way. And it started in the 1800s, like the popover thing.

Yeah. So it's like a very ingrained and rooted thing. thing. I have no idea what pop over is. It's like a biscuity. It's hard. Do you know what a Yorkshire pudding is? I work a lot of Gordon Ramsey content.

I know what a Yorkshire pudding is. Okay, it's a Yorkshire pudding. No, I've never heard of such a thing in my life. He freaked out some guy for how he made his Yorkshire pudding. Anyway. Okay. It's a Yorkshire pudding. It's the same thing.

Yeah. Sorry, I was looking up. I've never seen Yorkshire pudding. Oh, really? I grew up my. My step parent was or is British. They're divorced now, so he's not my step parent anymore. But we used to make Yorkshire puddings all the time at my house.

So they're very, very, very similar. The name is deceiving. It is deceiving. Yeah. There's nothing pudding like about it. It's not desserty either. It's like, it's very much like a bread. It's like a really fluffy bread.

It's like a crescent roll. I'm just going mad at people from England. But nice. They're making me mad. Oh, yeah. I mean, watching Gordon Ramsey can play, I was like, come on, dude. No, who cares? It's a Yorkshire pudding. But he had, no, he had some points about how it would deflate and stuff. But that's fine. Yeah, if it deflates, it's ruined. It's trash. It's trash. Okay. You just didn't know what, what, uh, what, uh, what a Yorkshire pudding even was. And now you're saying it's trash. I feel like I'm an expert now. I feel like you kind of get it. Yeah. I get it because I get popovers. And if they're the same thing. I'm the only one who. I'm the only one who. who's totally out of the loose. That's fair. Yeah. You just have to go to Jordan Pond and Acadia now.

I guess that sounds amazing. I want to go back to me. Yeah. September 13th is open lighthouse day, so I might anyway. Well, I gotta get out there. Open lighthouse day on September 13th. Oh, I thought you said it's White House Day. I'm like, that's the wrong state. I know, I'm like, I feel like there's a a lot of things. I'm not interested in that. But yeah, no, they have they open up all the, not all the lighthouses, but they open up lighthouses across the state of Maine to the public. And I was the fifth person last year to go into the Portland headlight. And they only had, I think, 200 people in a year. So it was like really cool. That is super cool. I'm trying to find ways to brag on this show.

Anytime I can talk about lighthouses and force it in, I take the opportunity. I love that. Do you have the like passport? Oh, you better believe it. I think it's in my backpack right there. You're like, I have it on me. Just in case. You never know. Actually, whenever I go to an actual lighthouse, I forget it. Do you imagine there's like a natural disaster and they find you and they find your, like, we have his ID and it's just like a lighthouse. No, I have mixed up that with my actual passport.

It is not like anything that bad. Like I didn't try to travel internationally with it, but I mixed them up before. But I have like a stack of papers, little paper slips that I'm supposed to tape in because I went so many times without. my passport, they stamp with paper for me, and I haven't put them in. But anyway, I've like, that's my struggle with National Park Passport. I bet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We always forget ours. And then so we have all the loose things and the stickers and the stamps. And yeah.

Overwhelming. Yeah. Yeah, we've been to so many before the park pass or we had the passport. So now we feel like, did they even count? Because we didn't get the stamp. I know. No, they didn't. Yeah. We got to start over. I think it's pretty obvious they did not count. Okay, yeah.

So I think we have a review of the restaurant, the Jordan. We've talked so highly about Jordan Pond. This review is not so great. This is from reviewer Cardio MD 22. That's not my kind of name. Let's see, August 24. And it's titled the Jekyll and Hyde of Jordan Pond. Whoa.

Believe it or not, it's a one-star review. Here we go. Those who are reading these reviews should carefully note the widely disparate, oh, disparate experience. I know they're making us read some hard words today. What the heck? We can delete you on purpose. He's a thesaurus. We're like, easier way to say.

Those who are reading these reviews should carefully note the widely disparate experiences shared by reviewers. As did I before booking a reservation for J.P. House, as we were told by multiple people that we just had to try the popovers and tea while here. Well, let me say, and all four members of my family were in complete agreement here, that popovers and tea at Jordan Pond House may be the biggest food scam in America, if not the universe. What? America and the natural next step is the entire universe.

Sure. There were only two aspects of the experience that were positive. The view from the restaurant lawn is terrific. and probably why people who give this place positive reviews are lulled into satisfaction and the service we received, parentheses, Jekyll. Is that the good one? Actually, I guess. I didn't realize.

Oh, I don't know. I suppose Hyde is the bad one. I don't know. Jekyll sounds like it's going to be the bad one. It does sound pretty evil. Yeah, because he's the, yeah, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Right. And this guy's also a cardio MD.

So this person is also a doctor. so they know about Jekyll. Okay. Makes sense somehow. However, the popovers and tea are simply not worth the $14 a pop, as others have said, for 50 cents worth of food, if that. Excluding tip. Oh, no.

And $14 excluding tip, which I generously provided because I legitimately felt sorry for the harried servers. The popovers could best be described as what a flavorless Dutch baby pancake would taste like if it were molded into a hollow muffin. Oh, that's what it is like. Why didn't you say that to describe popovers? That's such a great description. It's evocative.

Yeah, I knew what half the things were. Dutch baby pancake. I'm not sure which. Oh, it flavorless, though. Oh, man. They give you smucker, strawberry jam, and some butter and your choice of tea, coffee, or lemonade. The parking situation is awful as described,

as is the chaotic check-in situation. Parantheses, hide, hide, hide. Oh, shit. Bad, bad, bad. Oh, I get it now. But is it true they give you smuckers? That would surprise me, unless smuckers is like a main. Do they?

I don't remember being handed smuggers. I remember getting a bowl. And this person's just being like. Because that's what, you know, Cincinnati diners only have smuckers. And I'm like, if they have that here, come on, do better. Especially with the blueberry jams. They probably are not giving out smuggers. $14.

I remember having a bowl with it filled with jam. Yeah, so this person's just claiming they know it's smuckers and it's probably not. They needed another hide to grow into this parenthesis. Do yourself, your family and your wallet of favor and skip this experience entirely or do what we did, which was validate the poor experience of so many who have already posted here. Your choice, jekyll or hide. Oh, okay. This is so like, I mean, really.

That's the end of review. That doesn't even make sense. Like, why would that be the jekyll and, like, that doesn't even make sense. It's not the same person. It's not like, it's an inanimate object. It's a restaurant. It just is a weird. This person was like, I know two things that represent good and bad.

Yeah, I guess, right? It's like literary. If you don't like popovers, just say that. I mean, truly. Like, you can just say. I didn't like it. There's no nuance. It's like, what?

It's not your taste. That's okay. Yeah. They are. Maybe, but. Pretty plain. I'm just going to say it. Like,

I don't come for me, but. You know, like that's flavorless pancake? Almost precisely. Exactly. Oh. Yeah. Wow.

Did you write this review? I'm a big Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde fan. And I wanted to work it in somehow. Yeah. Oh, it was all because you, and then you did get defensive about,

whether or not Jekyll had an MD or not. You were like, it's doctor. It is doctor. Yeah. I see the connections. Yeah. A lot of people were also really upset at this restaurant for the bees. A lot of people, because there's bees everywhere.

They love smuggers. That's true. They love the smuckers. Probably like that lemonade spilling everywhere. Yeah. I don't think I've ever been stung by a bee at a restaurant. And that's like, you know, if there's a swarm of bees, they're hanging out. They want some jam.

They don't want me. I've been stung by a bee at a restaurant. It doesn't count. You were harassing them. I saw it. I was four. Yeah. Exactly.

It does not disprove my point. Okay. Well, I feel like it's not the restaurant's fault that you're drawing bees, you know. Oh, I agree. Unless they, like, purposefully put, like, I don't know, cover the trees and smuckers or something. What? I'm trying to think how they attract bees. Well, here's the thing.

restaurant is also in the middle of a national park. So it's like the bees belong. Yeah. This is the bees house. It's not your home. Yeah. And they're surrounded by wildflowers. They have even, I don't know if all of them are wild, but Jordan Pond, the restaurant has a bunch of planted flowers everywhere. And then there's wild flowers all in the fields off to the side. So it's beautiful and incredible. And of course, there's going to be pollinators there. Yeah. We would hope so. I love bees. My favorite thing is people complaining about nature in nature. Yes. When you did your review

episode, I'm sure that was, I, there's just National Park reviews are so wild for that where it's like they complain about not having modern, or not modern, just amenities specific amenities in a national park. The weather. Yeah. And then they're like, well, it was beautiful, but it's like, what the fuck did you want?

Yeah. Well, next on our list of places that we're going we kind of already talked about it earlier is Cadillac Mountain, which is a really cool mountain, too, just because Acadia is on the coast, and then this rises to 1,530 feet above the ocean. So it's pretty dramatic. It sounds small if you're comparing out west mountains or something, but from the ocean to the top of here is pretty cool. But there are people who have not good things to say about it.

I've been there three times, never seen the view. Really? I, man, that foggy? Yeah. So I feel like I should just give it up. Well, we did a group trip there with our listeners a couple years ago. And of course, we go up there. It's just fog like you can't see like your hand in front of you.

And I have this like picture or a video of somebody who got the actual view on Google and just held it up. It was like, yeah. It's like just use your imagination. Imagine. How beautiful. Yeah. I saw it once a few years. I think it was 2017, I saw it.

But it's been almost a decade since I saw. The fact that you know the year was like that. It was so special. It was a rarity. I had the best weather when I was in. Everyone told me that that I was so lucky. What time of year did you go? I went twice.

Once was in like spring. I want to say March, like early spring. And then the other was September. So like middle of summer. Yeah. Yeah. The weather is usually good. It's just like that fog before it burns off.

And of course you're there for the sunrise. So right. I don't know. It's kind of like 50-50, but I've lost every time. I will say I did only wake up early one time. So it's not, I shouldn't be saying how great the weather was because I thought it's amazing. I don't think I've got a single other morning.

All right. Well, this review is from Nazi 42. What? That's their Nazi, N-A-T-S-Y. They misspelled nasty, I hope. Eesh. It's from July 2017. Oh, so maybe we were there together.

Maybe we were there at the same time. Could be. They titled this, What's the Big Deal? Two stars. Before heading into Acadia, everyone kept talking about Cadillac Mountains. and how amazing it was, and it was on a lot of bucket list, and you just had to see it. Maybe if we've gone at sunrise, which was impossible because I can't be anywhere at 4.30 in the morning, it would have been more exciting, but in the afternoon, there really wasn't

anything that spectacular. It was some views, but I didn't see anything that breathtaking or unbelievable. It was just kind of meh. Oh, come on. The person better live in like the most beautiful place in the world. Yeah, I'm from Fiji. I don't even know Fiji. Like, shut up.

You're overlooking the Atlantic Ocean. Really? You're in a national park, but okay. There's tons of people and you have to be lucky enough to come when someone is pulling out or you won't get a parking spot. You can wander around and look at a couple of views. But as I said, I didn't find it at all remarkable. I won't say don't go because if you're going. you don't, you'll just be wondering what you missed, but don't expect much. It could be that coming

from living in the midst of the mountains, I just found this one a bit underwhelming. If it hadn't been so hyped up, I may have left with a more favorable opinion. Sorry, people told you it was nice. Damn. Yeah. People gave you their opinion, so then I didn't like it. And also what mountains? Because people have different definitions of what the mountains are. Like coming from the mountains. Okay. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. You're on the ocean.

It's a different. I also, I hate it when people complain about like car things like parking in a review. Oh, yeah. You're part of the problem if you drove there. Yeah. Especially in a national park. If you're driving in a national park, like that's fine. It happens all the time.

Like I did that. It was a crazy traffic because of all the construction. And I'm not like, how dare they do construction in my national park? It's like, yeah, part of the problem. I'm in the traffic because I am traffic. Yeah. That's my second favorite thing. Yeah, it's like there's just way too many tourists here.

It's like you are. What do you think you are? Yeah. Good point. Well, next up is another location that people seem to be disappointed by in Acadia. And that's Thunderhole. So Thunderhole is this feature in the park that it's really popular, number one, because it's like a really cool phenomenon if you catch it at the right time.

But it's also legitimately right off of the world. main road so you don't have to like hike over to it or try and like travel far to get to it. So a ton of people try and see it. And it's like this rocky little inlet of the shore where when the tide comes in right, it thunders in and crashes up and makes this giant booming sound and it has like this giant wave. I think a few people have died to like. Yeah, people have died there. It goes up to the wave will shoot up like 40 feet in the air sometimes. Yeah. When we were there, a woman broke her ankle and there was like searching rescue there because it's really wet because of all the waves that are crashing right here. And you have to kind of climb down these rocks. There is a pretty like known path, but they are rocks that you have to walk down to get down there. Yeah. But if you catch it in the right time, I guess it's supposed to be amazing. But I think most of the time it's kind of just pretty average. Dangerous. And dangerous. It's just a cliffside.

Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Right. Amazing. Stunning. But some people are pissed. So this is a two-star review from Biserab written of Thunderhole.

Here we go. Visited Thunderhole with high hopes of being dramatically drenched by ocean fury and deafened by nature's subwifur. Uh-uh. Nature's subwoofer. I feel like if this were a five-star review, that'd be amazing. I'd be like, yes. I could have been pretty enough. Instead, I got a polite burp from the sea and a light misting, like Poseidon sneezed politely and said, pardon me.

That's pretty cool. I don't know. I timed it perfectly two hours before high tide as instructed by every enthusiastic blog and Ranger I consulted. What I got was a small gurgle that sounded like a bathtub drain finishing its shift. The only thunder I heard was the rumble of my stomach waiting for lunch, end of review. So is it like one time it happens? Like it seems weird that it's like, oh, I got a gurgle as if like that was the only opportunity that it would make a sound.

Yeah. Is it like when it's storming, you have to go there? It's during the tides you have to, during as high tide as approaching, I think is the best time. But I mean, it's always doing something because it's just a rocky inland. There's ocean waves crashing into it all the time. but to get the like full on, I don't know, wrath or fury, whatever they said. The Poseidon's Fury.

Yeah, yeah, Poseidon's Fury. Instead of just a gentle sneeze, you have to go in the right time. Politely. Poseidon said, pardon me. That was nice. That was really thoughtful. Yeah. And then we added just another one that was just funny.

Okay, I didn't even notice. Okay. This is a one-star review by Syed of Thunderhole. here we go. There is no thunder and definitely no hole, L.O.L. What? Little Cliff, that's all. Not much to see. If you've never seen a cliff before, this is the place for you. Thumbull. Once you see one cliff, you've seen them all. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Don't even bother. Their credit, it's not a hole. It's like a slice in between the rocks.

Oh. He wasn't wrong. I guess. He's not wrong. It's not technically a hole. Technically, yeah. He was deceived on both counts. No thunder, no hole. So the next one up is the carriage roads. The carriage roads are one of the fan favorites of the park. They're kind of unique.

Rockefeller was one of like that big philanthropist. He actually donated a ton of money to Acadia when it was being established. And he created these carriage roads. It's like a huge network of. of like 45 miles worth of these. They're now gravel roads that kind of wind throughout the park. And people either horseback ride or bike or walk them. And it's a really cool way to see the park, especially for people who don't want to do

like huge extensive hikes or anything like that. They're super popular. We did them. We didn't do them on your Bachelorette. We did it on the trip. Yeah, we did it on a group trip. We rented bikes because there's no cars on them. Right.

And so it's just people who can. And they weave around ponds and through the forest and it's really pretty. So we rented bikes and just kind of rode along them. Yeah. It's really nice. But I do remember we lost a couple people in the beginning because they're like, all right, it's a nice gentle ride. But first you have to get up this hill.

That's like they should have gave us e-bikes. They should have us e-bikes for that portion. But, um, yeah. I don't know. We did e-bikes one time and I feel like we can't go back. Oh, I was going to say. never used one. Me neither, but the second I do, I'm not going back.

When you realize you don't have to pedal that hard to get places. Great. Yeah. I'm into it. And I like the idea of biking until I'm doing it. So that sounds like the good mix. Yeah, good combo. Yeah.

But our dad is obsessed with e-bikes and I think that's caused us to reject it. You know, he likes e-bikes. I don't like he bikes. No. As petulant children do. 30-year-old children do with their parents. Yeah, I would give them a chance. We rented them when we were doing the maroon bells in Colorado.

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I was going to give it a three, but I lowered it to a two because my wife almost got stampeded by a horse. Oh. The reckless equestrian was a guide on horseback who was in front of a horse. I was giving it a two, though. He was like, after my wife almost got killed, I guess I'll drop one spot. Holy shit. The reckless equestrian was a guide on horseback who was in front of it.

of a horse-drawn wagon. Later, I yielded to the horse wagon as we were on a tight bridge. Do you think I get a thanks or excuse me? No. In some, I would say the equestrian crowd here at Acadia seems rather entitled. Okay, we're going into a different. This is supposed to be the terrible. They're going up to the equestrian community. How do you? First of all, that's a dangerous community to go against. I wouldn't recommend it. As a vegan, I don't talk much about it because they scared the shit out of me. Yeah, I live in Kentucky and I don't even mess with the horse stuff. I don't want to talk about my opinions on horse.

As a former horse girl. I didn't say anything. Yep. I'm scared of you. Be careful. It is. Yeah, I don't doubt it for a second. Yeah, that's why.

I had to get out. You know, I had to get out of that, that community. Yeah. It's a daunting. It's scary. It's, it is scary. And I will say entitled. There's a few people in there that.

I'm glad you said it. Someone had to say it. It's a very rich sport. It is very rich. Yeah. Especially like I think there's a difference between like when I was a true in my horse girl era, I was still living in the East Coast and there's like you do like English and I did hunter jumper competitions.

Oh wow. In that world. But then out west, when I lived out west, it's like you just throw on a western saddle and you're going through the mountains and like cowboy camping. Yeah. It's a, they're different. Different vibes. This, this world, the Acadia, I know exactly what they're saying.

Okay, in sum, I would say the equestrian crowd here at Acadia seems rather entitled. So avoid the bike ride unless you want a vacation exercise workout where you occasionally see an inland lake and never get a glimpse of the ocean. It's like, did you not look at a map beforehand? Yeah, I'll do that. Carit roads are very clearly mapped out on every single thing when you're in Acadia. Like, they advertise it so hard. It's not. Rockabellar did this just for you to be able to see the ocean.

So, yeah. Gratitude for Rockefeller. And I almost pulled another one that was like they basically were complaining. They were like, the views are nice. But until you realize the view is just forest. Oh, look, more forest. Oh, there's forest again. Another tree.

Like, I'm mad. I'm outside. I'm another three in this camp park. I mean, really. I complain about not being like able to see the ocean. I feel like if they were that close to the ocean, the horse would have run his wife off the cliff. Oh, true. Yeah, you wouldn't have wanted to get stamped heated near the, yeah, near a cliffside.

Be grateful you were only by ponds. Yeah, could have been a one-star review, not a two-star. That's true. My wife died, so I believe. One more review. One more star. Okay. Well, our next place that we're heading to for Acadia National Park is the Beehive Trail.

And have you guys heard of the beehive before? No. It is, it's called the beehive because when you look at it from afar, it's this big rock structure that kind of is in the shape of a beehive. It's a relatively short hike. It's about 1.4 miles to do it, but it's straight up rock. And it has all of these steel ladders that come out that you have to physically climb up these different sections.

So it can be kind of dangerous. You're on the cliff face. You're on the side. You're climbing up these rocks. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Once again, people have died here.

All people. Yeah. Yeah. And I will say when we did it, this trail is so popular in the park that there will be lines of traffic of people in it. So we, something that would have been very strenuous because you're like climbing and you're walking straight up and you're kind of taking. long breaks because you're waiting for other groups to climb up the ladders. And so it takes a little

bit longer in that way. But it definitely is not a hike that you would do when it's raining or something. Yeah, that's a recipe for disaster. Yeah. Yeah. But it has beautiful views. Have you seen the videos of like Everest when it's like people are just in a traffic jam going up? Oh, yes. I've seen that like TikTok. I think when I was in Maine, I had a thing about the lines of people. And I'm like, oh my God, they're like on the cliff face. It's very, it's probably this trail. Like, because that's how busy it gets.

Yeah. That's true. But yeah, so something that could be really awesome and fun. Like, yeah, you are. I feel like we were there half the time we were just kind of like standing there waiting. Because if anybody has any sort of like panic attack or can't maneuver the ladders or get scared like you're jammed up there's no other way around yeah so and no one's rushing each other because we're all standing on a cliff edge and we're all yeah climbing up these rocks so it's like just

take your time we'll get there when we get there no horses I hope I'm not no horses allowed I did see that some people were saying like trying to describe this trail and I want your opinion do you think it is like a mini via ferrata or do you disagree with that I disagree with that same I'm like, okay, that's giving it a little more credit than I think is due. Because Via Ferratas, you are literally climbing up these huge rock faces, almost rock climbing. You have to be strapped in. This is not something where I think there were any points where I felt like you needed to be strapped in. Same.

You know, like you're not hanging over a cliff edge on these ladders. There's something. A platform, right? Exactly. So. Yeah. I've done one via Ferrada against my well and I'll never do one again. I was so fucking scared.

You did great. I don't even know what it is, but it sounds terrible. It's literally like, so we did it again on a group trip. We bring all our listeners on really fun things. Um, damn. We, where were we Quebec? Yeah. And we did, I don't even know how high it was. You would have to look it up, Cassie, but it was, you basically strap yourself into this, like, harness that has these, you have a harness on and you have these two kind of like bungee cord things out like this and they have two carabiners on the end of each. and you're going straight up a cliff face on all these like little either footholds or rungs and you have to clip yourself in on every step or you fall. And it's really, really scary for somebody who isn't the biggest fan of heights. And once you're up past a certain point, like they tell you. They're like, this is your last time to bail out because no one can help you. So. Speaking of type two fun.

The only other time I've heard. someone say that was at mammoth caves when I was in there and they said this is your final chance to turn around otherwise you're stuck and that was terrifying so this must be a national park thing it's like the opposite though I love that like you had that experience in a cave oh yeah on a cliff yeah on a cliff yeah why not interesting yeah park staff will only help you up to a certain point and then I get it yeah life's in your own hands yeah we'll clean up your body Alex, I'm sorry. I think about my own, if I've experienced it myself.

I just read the title of it. What is it? What is it? People have died here. Oh, God. Okay. Wow. Thanks. Anyway, that's according to Ryan Kay from July 2015.

So it's been 10 years plus. So who knows? How many more? It's a one-star review. Having grown up in Maine, I thought I'd enjoy a fun hike with my brother who is an experienced climber and lives on MDI. It's MDI. Mount Desert Island. Yeah.

Where the park is. Which is where the park is. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, so people do live. Like, is it a good amount of people or is it just like a? Yeah. Oh, okay.

The park's really interesting because when you, like, when you drove down to the lighthouse, like that portion, the lighthouse and some of the land around it is technically part of the park, but you drove through people's like communities and neighborhoods, you know? So it's like, it's a park that's kind of fragmented a little bit throughout the island. Yeah. While at the base of the trail, the face of the hill looks quite intimidating. Seeing the look of trepidation on my face, a man who just completed the trail said to me,

she did it and pointed to his 10-year-old daughter. I mean, that would comfort me. If I saw a 10-year-old and I was like, okay, that does make me feel better. Yeah, that settled it. Oh. My gut was still saying this was a bad idea, but I went ahead anyway. So it doesn't sound very settled. I don't know.

I was like, oh, that's settled. If your gut is saying don't do this. I still didn't want to. Okay. After a certain point, I couldn't take it anymore. Iron rungs and exposed cliffs. I've never been a fan of heights, but this was starting to press my panic buttons. The problem was, there's no turning back. What did we say?

You said it. Last chance. You simply can't turn around on this trail as it's more perilous to do so. I trudged forward. Yeah, so that 10-year-old had no choice. Like, it's like, yeah, she did it, but she would have died if she didn't. Supposedly, according to this person. I'm just, I'm in this review zone. You're a realist.

Yeah. Realist. Yeah. You're gonna die everyone. Okay. I trudged forward. Panic and deepened. And I spent the next half hour hyperventilating and sweating over exposed cliffs, tenuously clinging to iron rungs as I stepped numbly upward into even scarier territory.

Holy crap. Like it's not funny, but it's funny. Yeah. I love these. At one point, I stopped and was wondering how much it was going to cost me to have a helicopter. extract me. Oh my God. I'm not kidding. I wanted to add real quick. Yeah. Helicopter rider. Yeah, yeah. I feel like they're like looking there, whether their insurance covers it. Like Anthem, like benefits. Like how much is a heli?

Honestly. Airlifting. Sounds more perilous to be airlifted out of there. Yeah. Then just try them down. Yeah. That is true. A lot of people, we have come across a lot of rescue stories where it's like the helicopter comes in. That's great. But then like the helicopter crashes. Yeah. So, well, that's a nightmare. There's also that.

Have you all seen that video of someone being rescued in a helicopter and they put them in the litter? In the litter. And they carry them up and the rope just starts spinning. And this person is just like whipping around the whole time. And the comments are like, just leave me there. Cut the rope. Literally cut me down. I don't care anymore.

I would be, oh, God, that's my nightmare. I'm pretty sure I'm not positive if this is accurate, but I'm pretty sure it was an older woman too. Oh, my God, not the 79-year-old. The well-traveled lady, yes. It sounds like her husband was flying the fucking hell. Oh, no. Yeah.

Imagine they probably also had like a significant injury, like a spinal injury. Right. I'm like they're already being rescued. Things are already looking bad. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God, very grim. After what was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life, I made it to the top.

The views are beautiful, but I was a shaky, sweaty mess. Thankfully, the descent down the back of the hill is simple. If you want the views and you're even slightly scared of heights and understand the simple physics of your body bouncing off rocks and boulders after one small slip, then I highly recommend taking that route. I didn't see this warning sign until I descended. and there is a warning sign and it says, I'm not going to read the whole thing,

it's pretty long, but it says this trail follows a nearly vertical route with exposed cliffs that requires climbing on iron rungs as it starts. And it says it resulted in serious injury and death. Small children and people with a fear of height should not climb the trail. And it's on the side. It's at the end. I'm not sure, but it seemed that.

It seems pretty, I mean, it's bright. yellow. It is bright yellow. And it says, I didn't even mention it. And it says warning at the top. Yeah. Yeah. So it's one. I didn't see it. Yeah. Blended right in. Yeah. You know what? Yellow. And then it continues. I want a little bit. Here we go. You've been warned. If you're uncomfortable with the idea that just one small slip could mean serious injury or death to yourself or loved ones than exercise caution. Your 10 year old might slip and die. It sounds like they're kind of

calling out that parent. Yeah, it feels a little like unnecessarily like judgmental. I don't know. How dare you go on this trail? How dare you bring your family members? I guess you'll have a great time on this trail. I mean, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we've seen some kids

do some pretty incredible things though throughout. Kids have no fear. Yeah. They're built different. So it wouldn't be me. The physics of them bouncing down the clips, they survive. So they're just bouncing successfully, I guess. Yeah. All right.

And then lastly, we're going to wrap it up with some boat tour stuff because, of course, Acadia is on the water. Boat tours are wildly popular. And of course, how are you going to go see the puffins without being on a boat? I mean. Exactly. You got to get out there. And then certain times of year, there's great whale watching and things like that.

And there's like a lot of wildlife photography. stuff they do on boat tours and things but I'm I love a whale watch I haven't been on one in quite a while but I really enjoyed them have you guys then I don't think I've ever done that no just the puff and watch and lighthouse watch you know I would love to though I that sounds so so cool I want to see like them dolphins yeah dolphins whales yeah yeah we've done I don't know I think we did the last one we did together was in Alaska. Was it? A whale watching tour? Like a whale watching tour?

Like the wildlife boat tour thing that we did? I mean, you could arguably say that when we went to Antarctica, that was a wildlife boating. We went to Antarctica. Yeah. Remember when we were like, ha ha, have you through the Middle East? You were like, I think so. Of course. What?

Every continent. Yeah, we did a group trip to. to Antarctica last March. We've done 15. I'm getting on the next one. This is crazy. Let us know. Come on you bring you.

We're going to Norway next or next year. I want to see a fjord. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I've already seen a fjord. She wasn't impressed. We've seen them all.

Being from the mountains. I wasn't impressed. From the fjords. Been there done that. You know what I mean? Well, this review is something. This one is from Taylor, and it's from a year ago for the Bar Harbor Whale Watch tour, they said, Do not go on this tour and gave it one star.

My family and I went on this tour, and six out of ten, it was truly something nightmares are made of. First, the company crams way too many people onto one boat. Good luck finding a seat anywhere outside. the boat goes at an insane speed. I have been on multiple boats and have never been on one. I went so fast the entire time. On this boat? That is like the quickest way to show that you haven't been on that many boats when you say, I've been on multiple boats.

That's like three. Yeah. Like that handful. Yeah. And they were all rowboats. Right. It's a kayak and a ferry. Like, what are you talking about?

It's comical that the company casually tells you over the speakers before taking off that passengers are free to walk about the boat as they desire. When in reality, the boat is going so dangerously fast that walking around is incredibly difficult. Requires you to hold on tightly and I saw multiple people fall. How is this safe? This doesn't even compare to the vomit horror. I witnessed for five hours straight. No. Oh, God.

Who are you? They can't stand. They can't walk. It's like, why are you guys on a boat? I prepared with multiple doses of dramamine, hydration, and pressure point bracelets, but due to the speed and waves, I have never felt so sick in my entire life. It took all of my husband and I. strength to not get sick. Meanwhile, over 50% of the passengers were vomiting on the floor into bags

and off the side of the floor. I'd be done for. Are you a contact vomitator? Oh, no. 100%. I would be out there with them. Especially if I'm already nauseous, like, I'm done for. You know, like, 50% plus, like, there's something else is going on. There's a move going on. That's crazy. I just jump off at that point. The water's filled with vomit. I feel like that. It's careful. That water is cold too.

People, including myself, were in tears and in the fetal position on the floor, waiting for the horrible ride to end. Oh, my God. This is like a nightmare from hell. Not one person on the boat appeared to be having a good time. Except the guy driving it. He's having a great time. 49% might be having a great time.

For having to watch them vomit. Yeah, that's a good thing. All of this horror for 20 minutes of apparent whale watching, which I could not even see due to the fear of getting out of my seat and having a breakdown. And I'm in fetal position on the floor of the boat. I couldn't see the whales. I am so frustrated that I had to pay $150 for my husband and I to endure such horrific conditions and so many hours out of our short vacation, especially. since we got to see a whale jump out of the water while we were on our hike along Otter Point and Acadia the next day for free. I would give this company and tour zero stars in my card.

Wow. Wow. That's rough. Yeah. I'd be ended with a great cliche that we love. I'd give it zero stars if I could. Oh my gosh. I can't get it.

I'm just picturing all these people vomiting. I mean, don't get me wrong. It sounds like a nightmare. I mean, yeah. I'd hate to be on that boat. if it actually happened this way. I am so doubtful that this many people were like, yes, I do get seasick. Yes, I've only been on multiple boats.

I'm going to do this and throw up everywhere. 50%. I don't know. I'm also trying to picture this what's happening here because every whale watching tour, like especially if you're going out specifically to see wildlife, you're not fucking gunning it. Like you're kind of. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I'm like, are they chasing the whale?

It was a little great whale chase It was probably a normal speed Yeah And also they didn't mention like Any sort of like bad weather or waves or anything So like I will say if you get seasick it doesn't really matter Like I know that Cassie got seasick after we stopped

Oh my God yeah I had gotten used to Oh you're like suddenly wobbly Yeah And then when we got on land my body was just like so thrown and I didn't throw up but I was so nauseous for like two days just because it's a worst feeling yeah yeah I've been I don't get C6 so all my shit talking about yeah I'm like what are you talking about? I get like instantly yeah I'm sorry the way they described it I'm like

there's no way yeah going so fast and it's because of all this stuff I don't know one person vomits and then everybody's sick you know I got you but I don't know I'm more inclined to believe But then they stop at places. There's no way, yeah. They're just like doing circles around this pot of whales. That obviously doesn't exist. So never mind. But what are they doing?

I don't know. And I also love that like the crew or like captain was just like letting it ride out. They're like, well, 50% of you are fine. So we're going to keep going. I. I feel like this like happened to an extent. But it's probably exaggerated because I'm thinking of when we did the puffin' tour. When we were in Acadia, there were definitely people who were seasick, but there was probably like, I don't know, six or seven people who were seasick.

And then you saw a couple other people who, like, clearly weren't feeling okay. But it was fine, you know. So I feel like it probably happened, but it was probably a less percentage of the ship. I remember how many people there were like a few hundred people. So like one ship. Or in the fetal position on the ground. No, like these cruises are huge. I mean, I assume this one too.

I don't know if it was the same company I was on. How many people are on this boat would you say? I would say probably at least a good hundred. Oh, shit. Okay. Well, that changes everything. I'm thinking 50% is like three out of six people on like a private. No.

I was thinking like tens of people minimum. Yeah. I suddenly have a lot less. This is a lot less credible to me now. 50% just peaking off me. No, no. 50% is a little much. So, yeah, my experience was different.

Not that that necessarily means anything at all. I was picturing much closer quarters and also, I mean, I guess it's close quarters with 100 people, but like I was picturing like a group of six. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

There are some people though that are like, you just got to ride it out. Like when we were in, we did a like, it was different because we were on like the little zodiacs. Do you know, like the little rubber boats that kind of like get deployed off of a bigger boat. Yeah. We were doing that. We were going out to like this seal. colony and that was kind of sketchy. Like talk about maybe we should turn around like and didn't.

It was the weather was like getting really bad. The waves were crazy. And they're like, we'll get on this boat. We're going to actually gun it. I've been on multiple boats. So I have some experience on this. But they were like, even I was like, this feels a bit sketchy. But they're like, we're going.

we're going the fastest you've ever been on water. You're straddling the, you're not, they're like, hold on to this rope with your fingers. And we're like, wett your thighs into the side. Wed your side. Hold your side. It's not like, hard exercise or something. We're going out there. And then they're like, okay, we're here.

We're next to this cliff side that all these waves are crashing so hard. They're like, don't get too close because you'll get smashed onto the rocks. Jump in. And no life jackets, whatever. we're just in these like wet suits. They're like jump in. Didn't ask if we had like strong swimming experience, nothing. We go in there.

We're surrounded by hundreds of seals. And we had just been talking. We're like, oh yeah, this is where they film like Shark Week for South Africa. Like of all the great whites like coming and eating all the seals and stuff. People are fighting for their lives like drowning. People are getting like hypothermia. The waves are crazy. What is wrong with you?

And nobody, none of the people were like, yeah, we should probably call it until after. They're like, oh, yeah, we canceled every other tour that day. Well, me, I'm not a strong swimmer and I'm in like these waves and I see everyone swimming around. I'm like, fuck this. I got back in the boat. And I asked the captain, I was like, is this normal? Like, is how you normally operate your tours? That's a bad thing to have to ask.

And he was like, no. We've canceled everything for the day. Like we're getting out of here after this. And he like we all load up and we're going in and we can see the shore. But we're at the point right before the waves start breaking for the shore because we've been riding out these pretty large waves. And I'm feeling a little seasick and a couple other people are too. And he stops us and he's like, all right, everybody, what I need you to do is you're going to have to hold on tight. He's like, this is either going to go really well or really.

bad. He's like, I have to hit one of these waves. He's like, the waves are so big at this point that I have to hit a wave just right or we might flip. So I'm going to ride this boat onto the beach. Yeah, there was no like doc. You just like gunned it onto the beach. On to the beach. And he was like prepare because we might flip in the water. We might flip once we hit the beach. Like we're going to go. And I'm just sitting there and like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Oh, my God. How did I end up here? I'm so far from home. I just get me out of this ocean right now. And I remember vividly, I hold onto these ropes and I close my eyes. And my husband was with me at the time. And he just looks at me and I'm like, close my eyes, put my head down. And this guy just guns it. And he hits the wave just right. And we land on shore and we slightly tip over. Nothing dramatic. and I was just like I have never jumped off a boat so fast in my life. There's like a map after that like a long nap.

Yeah. Yeah. And then we took a group photo and we all look so happy. I know we're like. Aw. You're like green from nausea. Yeah. Like we did it.

We lived. But I don't know. He was like, oh yeah, it can go really well or really bad. It sounds like it just could have gotten like really bad or less bad. All around. Like we were out here for too long. This storm came in and we're. Yeah.

Yeah. Like good. luck. Everyone have your, everyone buckled up. Everyone have your life pass on? Yeah. Well, I did add one other review for this whale watch from the same company because I thought it was funny. This one is from Rochelle three years ago and they gave one star. They said, Great experience. We saw numerous whales and seals. The only negative part was when your employee yelled at me. A bunch of people were crowding around trying to see a whale that surfaced. In an attempt to see a little better, I put my feet on the seat and leaned against the railing.

The boat. Sorry. I'm like, why are you doing that? Rule number one. Put your feet on this. What? I just got it. I thought it was the other way around.

On the railing? That's worse. Well, I felt like sitting in the seat and put feet on the railing. And I thought, oh, you're just like putting your feet up. But no. Okay. Wait, are they? They're leaning over the boat railing.

Oh yeah. They're leaning over the boat. Yeah. Being higher off. Oh my gosh. Standing on a seat leaning over. They tried to justify it by saying the boat was stopped. Your employee came over very short with long brown hair and yelled at me to get down like I was a dog.

She was very rude and disrespectful. I understand it was a safety concern, but she went about it completely wrong. My fiancé and I spent a lot of money to go on this trip and your employee's behavior. I'm doing my job. Literally, please don't die on me. But she could have asked nicer. She could have said, please, do you mind getting your... Getting the fuck off of the railing?

What the hell? My fiancé and I spent a lot of money to go on this trip and your employee's behavior definitely negatively affected the remainder of it. Teach that snot nose some respect. Jesus. Like, it's always when, like, the vitriol on the other, like, comes back so much more intensely. I'm like, what is happening? Like, there's no reason you should be getting this upset.

Like, cruel with your words. Admitting you did something wrong that was unsafe and then to be like, ah, snot knows. I'm no dog. How dare they treat me that way? Jesus. What do you talk to your dog like? I don't want to know. And whatever you go on one of these ships, like one of the very first things that they say is keep all your limbs inside the boat.

Do not lean over the railing. Hammer it into you for the first like 10 minutes of the ride. Yeah, you sometimes have to be like, stop it. That's dangerous, you know? Like when you rain in the street that one time to try to get it by a car. As a toddler. Not recently. Not recently.

Okay. And then she had to be told you don't do that. And she was like, but I wanted to. I wanted to get hit by a car. Okay. You did. Am I wrong? Who's older?

Who's older? She's older. Oh, okay. You weren't even there. Were you born in? Yeah. You were in an in? I was in the car.

I was trying to get you. No, she wanted to see if our mom would cry when she died. Oh. Yeah. I mean, that is a litmus test. Yeah. And then my mom goes, you wouldn't have even seen me because you'd be dead. And I went, oh, yeah.

That toddler path. I don't know. Anyway. Well, thanks guys so much for. Do you want to come to Acadia now? Did we sell it for? I wanted nothing more ever. I have heard amazing things about it.

So I will be very disappointed. But I look forward to going there. In September, I get open. No, okay. That's the thing is yes, I was technically in Acadia, but I was focused. I had a goal. Lighthouse, Lighthouse. I saw like at least I think 10 lighthouses that day.

So I was like, I've, it's impressive. I, yeah. You were on a schedule. I really was. And I actually didn't even hit my number that I wanted. I think I wanted to get like 30. So I have to come back for like, I think another 14 or something. Did you go, are you trying to get all of them in Maine?

That would be nice. There are so many that are like, you know, as you know on like islands that aren't as accessible, but at least for... He's a strong swimmer. Just kidding. Just kidding. Yeah, just kidding. I'm not a strong swimmer. But no, I want to see all of the lighthouses in the country, ideally, 700. One day, we'll see. But yeah, no, Maine for sure. I do want to see as many as I can at least. Yeah. And someone can that are up there too. I'd love to see a puffin. So that is a lot. It's a lot of puffin. Yeah. It's a good reason.

They are really small. And it's so interesting that They're only, they're just really concentrated to that one area. Yeah. They're like, it's a guarantee. We know they're here. Which is super rare in like wildlife viewing stuff. It's like, it's a crapshoot. It's like maybe we'll get lucky, but they're like, oh, no.

Yeah, we got this puppy. Moose tour reviews that Matt was talk about not sure. Don't even get us started on Moose. We have the whole thing on Moose. You already know about the moose. Yeah. All right. Well, did people see them?

Are they pissed that they didn't see them? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then they were pissed even if they saw it. And then the tour was just a DVD on the bus about Moose. That didn't work. They're like the driver kept having to leave the bus to fix the DVD.

This is a night tour. Anyway, so yeah, I've, uh, daytime puffin tour. I'm in. Yeah. We say Moose aren't real because we've never seen them in New England, even though they're like supposedly all over the place. Everywhere. They're hard to miss.

I've seen one myself. We've seen them in other parts. of the country, but never here. And allegedly, I had to look it up because I, well, we're from New Hampshire and like, New Hampshire is kind of small, right? And we're like, how many moose can really be in New Hampshire? But now that I'm in Maine, like, how many moose are in Maine? Allegedly there's almost 70,000 moose here.

Jesus. Allegedly, I agree. Allegedly. I love that. I'm like. I haven't seen a little. What? Where?

Yeah. They're certainly not. It's like a whole little city. It's an old little. It is. They're not in the other towns or just in their own middle. I love that idea. Wow.

Yeah. So anyway, well, thank you guys so much for coming on and tell everyone about your show really quick. Yeah. Thank you so much for having us. This is an honor. I know we do have a lot of crossover of listeners and you guys have on such a great show.

So thank you for having us. We host a podcast called Beach, two, Sandy Water, Too Wet. We read one star reviews in a dramatic fashion as you just kind of encountered all of us doing and you can find us anywhere you listen to find podcasts such as this one. What has been before you go, I have to ask, do you guys have like a favorite topic topic that you've covered? That's a great question.

I will say, and I'm not just saying this. What did we just record? We recorded something that was so, oh, dude ranches. We just recorded an episode on dude ranches. There was a lot of horse humor in that one too. Wild. Like that was one of the most surprising, funny, like, times searching for reviews. I think it's when people go outside, all bets are off. Like, people, I think myself included are like, whoa, what's happening out here? Like, help, you know. You've seen all the National Park reviews that people are like,

they've discovered bugs for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. This is crazy. I wasn't expecting this. Nobody warned me. We did a live show in Salt Lake City. And that has one of my favorite reviews because it was someone going, I don't think it was Salt Lake, but it was, or it was a park right by the Salt Lake or something. And there were so many bugs and they were talking about. Oh, Antelope Island. Yes. That sounds right. And someone did their wedding photos there. And there was someone dressed as a vampire, like, the person went outside and experienced like 10 things that you shouldn't experience outside. And she's like, I started, complaining about the things you do experience. She was in a wedding dress. She's like, I started sinking into the sand. And then I realized it wasn't

sand. It was just tens of thousands of bugs. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, And then someone dressed as a vampire was there. Oh, and then the guy dressed as a vampire took my ticket. And I'm like, are you? What's to mention are you in? Where are you? No, it's hard to pick. But I will say, like the outdoor things.

Any outdoor ones really do always kind of present some challenges for humanity. I'm excited for what we've got in store for you because you're going to be on our show. Oh, that's right. Oh, my gosh. We got to say that too. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to do like a part two type of thing.

That's right. You got to follow up to find out what happens. That's right. I'm interested, Cassie, if you listen to the dude right. Because she kind of worked on one. I did work on one. Cassie. I was so curious if any of the reviews are from the one I worked on.

Ate were you in. Was it? Wyoming. Okay. Did we read? I read a lot of Wisconsin. Yeah. You had a week.

I feel like you only read Wisconsin ones. Because I only read reviews from that one person named Andy who lives in Wisconsin. Andy just was like, oh, I know, and then gave a lot of good reviews. But I'm trying to think, Wyoming feels like one of those places. It feels like a cowboy country. But it also feels like a place where people understand how dude ranches work. You'd be surprised. Because you're going to go when you're like trying to experience.

Yeah, anyway. Yeah. You know, I've never read the reviews on that branch that I worked at. So now I feel like I need to. Do you have any review of any like specific people you interacted with? And a crazy experience? A counter review, if you will. A counter review.

Not a bad review. I remember there was this one woman who she, it's not a bad review of her. She went horseback riding and she was older and she fell and she broke her hip and she ended up having to stay out there way longer. And she was such a good sport about it. And her husband was like, well, I guess I'll just hang out at the dude ranch and go horseback riding and do all this things while she's in surgery and then I actually came back to visit. I mean, I'm sure he was at the hospital when she was in surgery and stuff. But then I came

back to visit a few years later and she was back visiting again horseback riding. And I was like, that is. And it was just such a freak thing that I was there at the same time because it was like years later. I just happened to be in the area, stopped by to visit old co-workers. And she was there She was on a horse when I saw her. Wait a second. It's nice to know after all those one-star reviews, be like, oh, those people exist who break their hip and come back. And come back.

Yeah. You know she didn't leave a bad review. Wow. She's like, I'm back. I love that. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thanks guys so much.

And we'll, I guess in like a week or so maybe, we'll do this all again. Perfect. Yeah, can't wait. Yeah. We're excited to be on your podcast. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Thanks for joining us for another episode.

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