NBC Nightly News with Tom Llamas - Thursday, April 25, 2024
Episode Date: April 26, 2024Supreme Court hears arguments in Trump immunity case; New protests and arrests at colleges nationwide; Family of American hostage reacts to seeing son in Hamas video; and more on tonight’s broadcast....
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Tonight, the Supreme Court hearing Donald Trump's claims of immunity as his hush money
trial resumes.
The Supreme Court now weighing whether the former president can be tried for plotting
to overturn the 2020 election, and if so, will it happen before November?
What the justices appear to signal.
Mr. Trump, meanwhile, back in a New York courtroom.
David Pecker, the former National Enquirer publisher, back on the stand
testifying about the alleged catch and kill scheme to help Mr. Trump's 2016 campaign.
The tense conversation Pecker says he had over paying off Stormy Daniels. Also tonight, USC
canceling its main commencement after the arrest of dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters, the new clashes as campus unrest
spreads.
Police at Atlantis, Emory University, tasing a protester in handcuffs, restraining others
with zip ties.
Harvey Weinstein's rape conviction in New York overturned the egregious errors the judge
is accused of making.
Will it lead to a new trial?
Tracking severe storms across several
states tonight. The school principal police say was framed with fake racist remarks using AI.
The suspect, a former staffer, arrested at the airport with a gun. And after the first video
of their son in 200 days, the parents of an American Israeli hostage speaking out their message of hope.
This is NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt.
Good evening and welcome.
An extraordinary give and take in the U.S. Supreme Court today as the nine justices spent
nearly three hours wrangling with lawyers over questions of when or whether a former
American president
is immune from federal prosecution over acts taken while in office. The questions raised
during oral arguments are more than academic, but instead sit at the center of the special
counsel's criminal election interference case against former President Trump and whether a
trial can happen before the November election. Mr. Trump claims
absolute immunity from prosecution, something the court didn't seem inclined to go along with.
Yet conservatives on the court sharply question the special counsel's position as well. None of
that stopping the New York hush money trial, which continued today for Mr. Trump as a key
witness testified for a third day. Laura Jarrett has details.
Tonight, the U.S. Supreme Court weighing a monumental question that will decide
whether the former president goes to trial for plotting to overturn the last election and win.
I think that the Supreme Court has a very important argument before today.
Mr. Trump hoping to persuade the justices to find him
immune from federal charges. His lawyers arguing the office of the presidency would be completely
hobbled without that protection. Without presidential immunity from criminal prosecution,
there can be no presidency as we know it. The special counsel's office indicted Mr. Trump on
conspiracy and obstruction charges last year for his efforts to cling to power, accusing the likely GOP nominee of pressuring state officials to reverse the election results.
Actions, DOJ argues, were for purely personal gain and cannot be shielded from prosecution.
There is no immunity that is in the Constitution unless this court creates it
today. The conservatives expressing concern if future presidents have no immunity for actions
taken while in the White House, that could open the door to recriminations between political rivals.
Will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy.
The liberal justice is troubled by the prospect of insulating presidents from accountability,
raising a series of dark hypotheticals to underscore
the consequences of adopting Mr. Trump's position.
If a president sells nuclear secrets to a foreign adversary, is that immune? How about if a president
orders the military to stage a coup? That sure sounds bad, doesn't it?
I'm trying to understand what the disincentive is from turning the Oval Office into, you know,
the feat of criminal activity in this country. The fallout over efforts to subvert the election
results in
2020 stretching beyond Washington. In Arizona, a grand jury indicted several members of Mr. Trump's
inner circle Wednesday, accusing them of falsely awarding the state's electoral votes to Mr. Trump,
despite his loss to President Biden. The sending of phony slates of pro-Trump electors to Congress
to disrupt the election certification on January 6th, looming large at the high court today as well,
as the justices look to determine the line between a political candidate's actions taken for personal gain from a president's official conduct that could be immune from prosecution.
Laura, we heard a lot today. What are the possible outcomes here? Well, Lester,
there's any number of different scenarios that the court could take here, but it seems most likely,
based on the questioning, that the justices will say that the former president is not completely
immune from all acts, but he might enjoy some limited immunity for some acts, in which case
they're likely to send this case back down to the lower court to do some of that work to figure out where the line is, Lester. But of course, that means more delays
and it means that this case is not going to trial by November. Lester. All right,
Laura Jarrett starting us off. Thank you. And Mr. Trump's first criminal trial resumed in New York
with more testimony from the former publisher of the National Enquirer about that payment to an
adult film star. Here's Von Hilliard. On his third day on the stand, former National Enquirer about that payment to an adult film star. Here's Vaughn Hilliard.
On his third day on the stand, former National Enquirer publisher David Pecker
told the jury he refused to catch and kill Stormy Daniels' story
about her relationship with then-candidate Donald Trump.
Pecker said he told his right-hand man at the Enquirer not to pay Daniels
the $120,000 she was seeking because they'd already
shelled out tens of thousands of dollars to keep other stories about Mr. Trump quiet. If anyone
should buy it, Pecker said, it should be Donald Trump and Michael Cohen, Trump's former fixer.
Pecker says when he told Cohen, quote, he was upset and responded that the boss, referring to Trump,
would be furious with me.
Pecker said today he believed Mr. Trump or his company had paid Daniels until Cohen told him in December of 2016 that he was the one who paid her.
Prosecutors are seeking to prove Mr. Trump doctored internal business records
to cover up that payment.
Pecker also testified Trump was aghast when he saw Stormy Daniels on 60 Minutes.
Was it hush money to stay silent?
Yes.
Pecker says Trump called him.
He said, we have an agreement with Stormy Daniels that she cannot mention my name.
Trump later denied knowledge of the arrangement.
On cross-examination, Mr. Trump's lawyers challenging Pecker's credibility and business
practices.
At a campaign event earlier in the day, Mr. Trump addressed the testimony of his longtime friend.
David's been very nice, a nice guy.
Did you know about the payment to Stormy Daniels before the 2020 election?
Pecker also testifying today about a payment his company did make to former Playboy model Karen McDougal
to keep her alleged affair with Mr. Trump quiet.
Pecker said he coordinated with Cohen because he was concerned paying McDougal could violate campaign finance law.
So they worked up an agreement to pay for her contributions to magazines owned by American media,
adding he believed Trump was aware of the payment.
The prosecution asking Pecker, was your principal purpose to suppress her story so as not to influence the election?
Pecker responding, yes, it was.
Vaughn, what did Mr. Trump's lawyers focus on during David Pecker's cross-examination?
Lester, for one, that Donald Trump was not the only celebrity who he helped squash negative
stories for in exchange for good ones, but instead that this was a mutually beneficial
relationship dating back to the 90s when Donald Trump was a celebrity here in New York City.
Cross-examination will continue tomorrow. Lester. Von Hilliard, thank you. New protests flaring up
across the country today as pro-Palestinian demonstrations escalated and more people were
arrested. And with graduation season practically
here, Liz Kreutz reports schools are making tough choices. In an unprecedented move, the University
of Southern California tonight canceling this year's main commencement ceremony attended by
roughly 65,000 people, citing new safety measures put in place amid protests on campus.
The stunning decision coming a day after nearly 100 protesters were arrested for trespassing
after a contentious rally where pro-Palestinian demonstrators clashed with police.
Even if they have to cancel every single commencement, that's up to them.
The school's administration had already canceled the graduation speech for their
pro-Palestinian valedictorian, Azna Tabassum, citing safety concerns.
Coast to coast, growing protests on more college campuses over the Israel-Hamas war.
From George Washington University to Northeastern to Emory and Atlanta, where police in riot gear today clashed with demonstrators.
I go to the school! riot gear today clashed with demonstrators. Law enforcement appearing to use zip ties to
restrain the protesters, even tasing one person. At Columbia, the epicenter of the protests,
those camping out, given a deadline to disperse by 4 a.m. If not, the university says we will
have to consider alternative options for clearing the area. And these protests are now spreading
here in California as well. Here at UCLA, students have begun gathering, pitching tents in the heart of campus.
Many of these students calling on the university to divest from Israel.
Tonight, these rising tensions igniting a debate about free speech versus hate speech on college
campuses. At USC, Professor Brittany Friedman criticizing the university for escalating what
she says have been peaceful protests.
You believe these students' First Amendment rights are being violated?
Absolutely. Absolutely.
They are criticizing a nation state for their actions in war, not criticizing a faith.
A faith that is very close to me.
But some Jewish students say they feel the demonstrations have crossed the line.
I don't believe that, you know, advocating for the rights of the Palestinian people are inherently anti-Semitic.
But some of these chants and some of the ways in which that they attribute and target Jewish students, that is anti-Semitic.
And Liz joins us now from UCLA. What's the scene there, Liz?
Well, Lester, it's a glowing protest here. There's now several hundred students camped out. They say they plan to stay here until
the university meets their demands. As for USC, we've heard from so many disappointed students
tonight. The university is saying they made this decision because they feel that it would just take
too long to process all the thousands of guests given these new security measures. Lester? Liz
Kreutz in Los Angeles, thank you. Now to that startling reversal today in the New York rape
case that sent former film mogul Harvey Weinstein to prison, the state's top court overturning his
conviction. Here's Kate Snow. For the more than 100 accusers of Harvey Weinstein, it was a shock.
This today is an act of institutional betrayal.
In a four to three decision, the New York Court of Appeals finding Weinstein
is entitled to a new trial. His spokesperson speaking to NBC's Chloe Malas.
What he did was might have been insensitive, might have been unethical, but it wasn't a crime. And
in order for them to bring it back, they're going to have to find witnesses to come forward with
actual crimes. Weinstein was charged with crimes in New York involving three women
and convicted in 2020 of rape and sexual assault. But that trial also included testimony from three
other women who made allegations that never led to charges. Today, the majority in the Court of
Appeals concluding the trial court made egregious errors, erroneously admitting that testimony, calling it unnecessary.
The jury was able to look at that and probably infer that he was guilty in the past,
so he must be guilty now.
And that's what this higher court said can't be allowed.
That's right.
The state court of appeals also said the trial court abused its discretion
when it said Weinstein could be cross-examined about those other three women.
And even if he denied them, just the fact of being accused of them its discretion when it said Weinstein could be cross-examined about those other three women.
And even if he denied them, just the fact of being accused of them could allow the jury to infer his guilt based on prior behavior. He then decided not to testify. One of those women was
Dawn Dunning. Today, she said, people have asked me if I regret having testified. Was this all for
naught? And my answer is a resounding no. We spoke with other
Weinstein accusers not involved in the trial. All of the fear and the panic and the confusion
from the original trauma comes back. I'm deeply concerned it's a setback for justice for survivors.
In a dissenting opinion, three justices wrote men who serially sexually exploit their power over women will
reap the benefit of today's decision. We've already heard this refrain about Me Too has
gone too far. And I think there's going to be some people out there thinking, oh, good. So
now we've redressed the balance. And I don't think Me Too ever went far enough.
So, Kate, what happens now? So the Manhattan District Attorney's
Office, Lester,
says that they will do everything in their power to retry the case. Weinstein's representative says
for now he will remain in New York. And remember, Weinstein is appealing a 16 year sentence for rape
in California. His L.A. attorney tonight says the New York decision has a significant impact on that
pending appeal, saying the L.A. trial judge, quote, made
some the same errors as the New York trial court last year. All right. Kate, thanks very much.
We are tracking a multi-day severe weather threat in the central U.S., millions at risk from Texas
to South Dakota for storms that could produce softball size hail, tornadoes and 70 mile per
hour gusts. Tomorrow, the threat pushes more into the
plains and Midwest. In 60 seconds, the impact of high prices we're all paying, becoming more of a
drag in the economy. The mixed signs and what they mean, next. We're back with growing concerns about
the bird flu tonight. This comes as the FDA said that testing of pasteurized milk around the country found
that one in five samples were positive for fragments of the bird flu virus.
While the FDA says the milk supply is safe, the concern is that more cows are sick than
first believed and that this could increase the risk to humans.
New evidence about how the high prices we're still paying for so many things are
slowing down the economy while President Biden tries to maintain a positive message. Peter
Alexander now with the latest. Tonight, after more than a year and a half of strong spending,
some of the steam is now coming out of the economy. The GDP rate slowing to 1.6 percent
in the first three months of this year, well below expectations. What it means is
at the core of the economy, business and consumer spending is doing just fine. Inflation numbers,
they are not fine. Inflation, while down from 40-year highs just a couple of years ago,
remains stubborn. Those consumer prices we all pay, up nearly three and a half percent,
a bigger jump than just three months ago, taking its toll on
Christy Coughlin and her family in Bend, Oregon. You're a registered dietitian. Food is your life.
So how have your grocery shopping habits changed? We've decided to use the one bag rule or two bags.
We'll fill them. And once those bags are full, then we'll walk out. It really eliminates impulse
spice. In Syracuse, New York today, President Biden optimistic about the economy.
American manufacturing is back.
That's what is a comeback story.
Creating new jobs, new businesses, new hope.
But with most Americans disapproving of his handling of the economy,
the president has some convincing to do before the election this fall.
Still, as summer comes, despite higher costs, Americans are willing to spend to get away.
At Dollywood theme parks in Tennessee, they're on pace to surpass last year's record attendance.
American families booking further in advance and coming from farther away. These latest figures
complicate the Fed's decision about when it could finally cut interest rates, reinforcing concerns
that borrowing costs for consumers and businesses
could stay higher for longer. Lester. All right, Peter Alexander at the White House. Thank you.
Up next, the alarming warning about the dangers of A.I., why a high school official is accused
of using A.I. to put fake words in the mouth of a principal. Next.
We're back now with an alarming story shining a light on the dangers AI can pose.
Police say a high school principal was framed with racist remarks created using AI to mimic
his voice. Here's Blaine Alexander. The audio clip is less than 60 seconds,
long enough to completely upend a Baltimore area high school. In it, a voice is heard making racist remarks about black students' academic performance
and anti-Semitic complaints about Jewish community members.
For months, parents, teachers, and students believed it was a racist rant
by Pikesville High School principal Eric Eiswert.
But today, officials revealed that voice was generated by AI, and they've
arrested the school's athletic director, 31-year-old Dazon Darian, for allegedly creating it.
Detectives allege Mr. Darian, who was the athletic director at the high school,
made the recording to retaliate against the principal, who had launched an investigation
into the potential mishandling of school funds. Police say Darian was arrested today while trying to board a flight
to Houston, initially taken into custody for a gun in his bag when police discovered the
outstanding warrant. He's now charged with disrupting school operations along with theft,
retaliating against a witness, and stalking. The clip was first circulated back in January and quickly went viral.
I, as a parent, am horrified, and as a rabbi, I'm quite disturbed.
It's hard to pay attention in class because, like, everybody was talking about it.
At the time, the principal denied ever making those remarks.
Officials say the clip had, quote,
profound repercussions leading to the principal's temporary removal from the school.
A fake recording with very real consequences, all sparking new concerns around the growth of AI.
Blaine Alexander, NBC News. Coming up, our intimate conversation with the parents of
American hostage Hirsch Poland, seen alive for the first time in a Hamas video. Their message of hope is next.
After more than 200 days, they finally saw a video of their son alive. Now the parents of
an Israeli-American hostage have renewed hope of bringing him home. They spoke with Raf Sanchez.
It's the video no parent would want, but the Goldberg Polans long to see.
Their son Hirsch in Hamas captivity, missing his left hand, but alive.
What was it like for you to see that video? I mean, initially, you know, we were just crying.
I wasn't even paying attention to what he was saying. I was just looking at him and hearing his voice. He certainly
doesn't look like himself, but it was amazing to see him and amazing to see that he speaks
like himself. The undated video, the first sign of life in more than 200 days. He went to a concert
with his friends and he was stolen from his life and stolen from our lives.
I mean, we are frozen in time. We are absolutely frozen in time.
That time, 8.11 a.m. on October 7th, when Hirsch sent his last messages.
I love you guys. I'm sorry. And I wrote, I'm leaving my phone on. Let us know you're OK. And they've never been
received. While negotiations to free the hostages are stalled today, a moment of light.
The White House releasing this photo of the president meeting with four year old Abigail
Don, the youngest American taken hostage. She's remarkable in recovering from unspeakable trauma,
he said. John and Rachel
determined to bring Hirsch and all the other hostages home. And they're drawing strength
from that brief glimpse of their only son. Even when you feel like your knees are buckling and
your soul is breaking and your heart is crying, you have to be hopeful and you have to keep running.
Raf Sanchez, NBC News, Jerusalem.
And that's nightly news for this Thursday.
Thank you for watching.
I'm Lester Holt.
Please take care of yourself and each other.
Good night.