New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Adam Sandler on favorite SNL moments, Casting Travis in Happy Gilmore 2 and What ‘The Waterboy’ is Doing Now | EP 125

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

92%ers, we are off this week but in honor of the SNL 50th Anniversary we wanted to re-release our incredible conversation with the legend himself, Adam Sandler.We talk about his new Netflix s...pecial, how he got Travis involved in Happy Gilmore 2, how favorite stories from his time on SNL, how early he thinks you should expose kids to the Sand Man, what he thinks Bobby Boucher is doing today, and so much more.Stream “Adam Sandler: Love You” now on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/81757746New Heights will be back soon so make sure you’re subscribed to our YouTube Channel. You can also listen to New Heights early and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify....Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwFollow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show:http://hoo.be/newheightshowSupport the Show:AUDIBLE: Start listening today when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at https://audible.com/newheightsTURBO TAX: Now This is Taxes. Brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Visit https://turbotax.intuit.com/MENTOS: Yes to Fresh with Mentos GumACCELERATOR: Click the link below to get a case of the Kelce Brothers’ favorite energy drink!https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/FB06B38E-F0C2-479F-9DA5-FD4A1C852B07?channel=NewHeights2025ALLSTATE: Checking first is smart. So, check https://Allstate.com first for a quote that could save you hundredsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, we jump it on? Yes. Yeah! We did it! We made it happen. Yeah, boys. You always got the flyest shit on, dude. Everybody always tells you, I know it.
Starting point is 00:00:13 This shirt here, I think it's been three days in a row I'm wearing it. I'm not, that's the only thing I'm not good at is changing. You can wear that thing to dinner. You wear it to the courts. You wear that thing everywhere, man. Isn't that pathetic? That's the best. I started doing that only because I, protecting hiding these tits, the tits got big,
Starting point is 00:00:31 so. Can't help it. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen. Hey! We are a Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment. That is correct. We are your host. I am Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:00:52 This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, Cincinnati Bearcat Alums, as you know, subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus, or wherever you get your podcast. And follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S. got an incredible guest coming on this episode. And you're going to find out who it is. There's clues on the screen right now. You probably already know. I mean, you probably got a little.
Starting point is 00:01:16 They'll probably ruin the surprise because it helps people tune in and watch it and we need to advertise it. I mean, this is right up there. You can't ruin this episode, though, man. This will be so. I met, we should just say his name because it's going to be. Nope. I met this person one time. And let me tell you, I have not been starstruck by many people.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I did I was kind of like I am now I didn't know what to say like I was just in a loss of words and I'm like just don't quote every movie he's ever been in because that's what every dummy doo-do head does but I think I proceeded to probably do that if it's a good one you got to just be tasteful with it if you're going to do it yeah it's going to be perfect timing and great delivery you got to deliver it if you're going to do it oh you guys are in for a treat I mean we're in for a treat too it's cool to even have this guy on All right. Our guest today is an absolute legend.
Starting point is 00:02:10 You may know him from his film and TV career spanning over three decades. He's written and starred in some of the most iconic movies of all time, including Billy Madison, happy Gilmore, the Waterboy, and so many more. He's a one-time winner of the Mark Twain Prize for American humor. A 16-time MTV Movie Award nominee. He's got Teen Choice Awards, People Choice Awards, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 He's a fan of high-quality, H-2-O. Jesus. Have a... Today, Jr.? Spit it out. That's right. Our guest is the one and only Sandman.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Adam Sandler. That's right, baby. Boys, I'm so happy to see both of you guys. Love you both. You know that. You know that. Thank you so much for coming on, Adam. This is incredible.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's iconic, man. You too, fellas. Yes. Yes. Come on, Jason. Hit me. So you recently just finished a stand-up special. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That's going to be launching on. on, I think, Tuesday on Netflix. Yes, yes. It comes out on Tuesday. I did, I was doing a tour running around for like a couple of years, you know, in and out. I kind of do it like I go away for a couple weeks and I go back home for a month or two. Then I go do another couple weeks, that kind of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And when I was out on the tour, I was like, oh, man, probably should make a special just so I, because I know one day I'm going to throw this material out and move on to some new stuff so it might as well document it. And so I said, let me do a special. Netflix said, that sounds good. And then I called Josh Safty, who's this great director, and he did uncut gems.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Him and his brother, Benny, did uncut jams. And I said to Josh, would you want to maybe direct a comedy special? And he said, yeah, yeah, and I thought we were just going to shoot a normal special, but he just kind of took over and made it a different style and different feel and through weird stuff at me. And we, it's just, it's a special, but it's kind of like a movie. It's different.
Starting point is 00:04:13 It's a little different. Yeah. I cannot wait for everybody to see this, man. They let us preview it and that was alone, the coolest thing ever. Oh, yeah. It was awesome, brother. So, thank you, bud. What, um, you're right, it is different.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And it's like, kind of segmented. There's a whole, like, thing going back and forth with the projection and all that. What, how do you, how do you even get to, like, creating something like, like that. I know that like stand-up, you're bringing on jokes and you're trying to figure out your routine, but that thing was so unique. How did that whole process come about? Well, I was kind of ready to just do a normal stand-up special. I was excited because I was kind of locked in. You know, when you do stand-up and you're on the road, it evolves. You get better and better at your act and figure out better things to talk about, figure out better ways to tell your thoughts or your jokes or
Starting point is 00:05:01 whatever the hell it is. And so I was kind of locked into a certain way that I was ready to, ready to, you know, throw down. And then he, Josh was just kind of like, you know, we've seen, seen you do a stand-up special already. I did one like six, six years ago. So he said, let's try to come up with a new way to present it. So that's kind of what happened. What made you want to get back into the stand-of realm? Like, you took a long hiatus from it. Not too long. I saw 100% fresh live, actually. I was at the,
Starting point is 00:05:32 the Hayworth out there in LA, dude. That's right, but I remember seeing you. I was so, fuck, I was in a whole other world. And, uh, I got,
Starting point is 00:05:41 I, I remember two just off the top that I still remember. There's a phone wall of keys. Yes, yes, I fucking sing that every single time I walk out of the goddamn door. Oh, I love that,
Starting point is 00:05:52 I haven't forgotten. I haven't forgotten since. Love that. And then, and then, uh, I want to grow old with you, dude.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yes, I sang that too. Yes, yes, I sang that for the special. And that was six years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is so fucking cool. That was six years ago when I saw you. That was so fucking cool, man. I saw you at the, in the dressing room back there at the Hayworth.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You're the fucking man, dude. You too, buddy. And it was, I don't even know why I started. Oh, yeah, here's what happened. I was doing movies. Life was going good. You know, I did Saturday Night Live and me and my friends, you know, Spade and Schneider and Rock, we used to run around and do stand up back.
Starting point is 00:06:28 then. So cool. And it was great. And then all of a sudden, I was doing a lot of movies and it just became like your schedule was kind of overwhelmed. And so I stopped doing stand-up for maybe 20 years or so. Sheesh. And then I was doing grown-ups. And all I heard was Kevin James and Chris Rock and Schneider and Spade and Colin Quinn and all the guys in the movie and Norm McDonald all talking about their gigs they had that weekend. And I was like, I was a little jealous. Like, oh, man, maybe I should get back on the road. So that got me into it again.
Starting point is 00:07:04 That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, make sure everyone you check out, love you. It's streaming now on Netflix. Wonderful jokes. It's a very unique, as we've talked about, comedy stand-up special, including a wonderful ode to comedy, which, man, if this world needs comedy more than ever, it was just beautifully done, really well done.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Thank you, man. We wrote a song that kind of just talked about all the movies and comedians that influenced me and my friends growing up and our generation and that kind of stuff. And what we used to sit and watch growing up with our parents or with our buddies or whatever it was. And so wrote a song that puts a lot of that stuff in there. It's got music. Fulmanco guitar that starts off with right away. I'm like, man, he's bringing it right off the bat. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I did my best. By the way, that was terrifying because I knew sometimes when I'm alone in my room playing my guitar, I go, man, I think I could have been a guitar player. I'm pretty damn good. Then when I get on stage, I start getting my fingers get tight. Everything's nerve wracking. So when I was shooting a special, I was like, come on, man, let's get this thing right. But I did all right. I did all right.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You nailed it. Thank you. And then the Bluetooth comment hit a little bit too close to home from me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that happens on occasion. that happens. Yeah, yeah, you don't, you don't like those times. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Let's talk about Happy Gilmore, too. Because you got that coming up. You just said you're moving to Jersey here coming up. Yes. That's what you're going there for, right? The whole thing was to get to hang out with Travis. That's why we put it together. No, yeah, yeah, we're going there.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Travis, by the way, thank you. I heard you talking about it. And I was on your show, you guys. And then, of course, I was like, you know, I was thinking, We were talking about you playing my son while we were writing it literally like six months ago. We were like, imagine if Travis was my first baby. How funny that was. Just a badass.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But we know football season. I think I got the swing down. You do. I think I got the swing down. Can you crack it like that? I was out there the other day. And it was literally the day after you went on Fallon and told everybody. And I was like, man, you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:21 I just got to do a ceremonial one. And I fucking ripped it. You did. It felt so good, dude. You banged it. What a feeling. When you look up and that thing's going straight, you're like, that works, man. How did that happen?
Starting point is 00:09:35 It's just the, oh, I bet you ripped the shit out. What do you hit him when you, when you play? You bang it along, don't you? Yeah, I can hit it about 320 consistently off the drive. But I could be three holes over or right next to a hole. It's either way. No, but I've seen your swing. It is nice.
Starting point is 00:09:52 It's fun. I got to say when I'm doing the Happy Gilmore swing, I'm maybe one for four with that. It's not a thing. A little TV magic on the back end. There's definitely I call my own cuts. All right, buddy. Well, that's a long walk-up. Boom!
Starting point is 00:10:13 You can hear Papma Holmes in the background telling you where we're going on. That's got a good swing, too. He can bang him too, I'm sure. you guys have fun golfing up. He's a way better player than I am. He takes a way more serious. I'm just out there for the fun, man. Yeah, well, you're a fun man.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Everybody on this little hang here besides me seems like they have fun on the course. I get a little snappy out there. Snappy, a little frustrated. Have you gotten back into playing at all just to kind of get ready for the movie? Did you take a time off from playing golf? Yeah, sort of similar to my comedy career. I kind of dipped out for a while. And then I was like, what am I doing, man?
Starting point is 00:10:55 Let me get back into golf. And I absolutely, I played when I was a kid. I played when I was like 12. And my dad was awesome. My dad was a really good golfer. He'd shoot in a low 70s. I still can't do it. I can't get it there.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Holy cow. I can't get down low. I've had a good nine. I had a good nine maybe two weeks ago at Riviera. Oh, nice. I think I could say. That's where they play the Genesis Open. That's a legit course.
Starting point is 00:11:22 That's a tough one. I mean, I play from the whites, but I shot okay. But I can't put 18 together. I can't do it. I can't concentrate that long. Are you guys good with 18? Dude, I suck. I have a very little attention span.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's like third to last in the Tahoe golf out of it. Oh, yeah, but it was not good. Didn't break 90 one time. I hear you. That's kind of my spot to around 88 or something. I'm good. I'm good probably playing 18. When it gets to like 18, three days in a row, I am just cooked.
Starting point is 00:11:51 man, I am cooked and my swing is all over the place. I'm not made for three days of golf in a row. That's a lot of thinking. That's a lot of thinking. I can't stay still for that long. Like right around hole six, I start going, what the hell am I doing here? What happened in my life? Do they have burgers on the turn?
Starting point is 00:12:08 What are we? Yeah, yeah, yeah, once I eat at the clubhouse. That's so funny. When I grew up my dad, there was a, we used to play at this one place. And I think it was whole 13. They used to put out a Polish sausage. and hot dogs and stuff like that. And every time I ate there, my father would go,
Starting point is 00:12:26 oh, there it goes, game over. He's going to stink now. I'd be like, no, no, no. And I would just eat too much and just getting a little coma and be staring. My father would be going, why did you eat that?
Starting point is 00:12:36 You moron. I was about to say, you inspired an entire, like, generation to get on the golf course, man. I promise you, you did. I was one of the kids.
Starting point is 00:12:45 We used to go up to the public course all the time and just wanted to absolutely hammer them and hit him with the happy Gilmore swing and everything. And we were hockey players growing up. So that, that, right, the movie, like, It hit extra hard. Yeah, boy.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It hits so hard, man. Yes. I know you, both you guys remind me of my friends so much growing up. Like, oh, if you met my friends, what you did, you actually saw a few at the U2 show, right? That was awesome, man. Oh, how cool was that concert? That was incredible.
Starting point is 00:13:13 What a night. But it was more fun seeing you there, buddy. We love seeing you. No, that was like, I was telling Trav, I've told him before, I told him, reminded him again today. I have not been starstruck, like, much of my life. And seeing all of you guys next to me, like the entire ensemble, especially you,
Starting point is 00:13:31 it was like, man, what the, where are the fuck am I at right now? That was cool, man. It's insane, man. I was like, I came here to watch you two and I saw every person that, like, I ever looked up to, like, and like all of the best shows,
Starting point is 00:13:45 all the best movies. Like, it was so cool. It was awesome. Thank you, man. Well, we love seeing. you too, but we talked about you flying home that night.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Anyways, that was a fun, fun time. But you both you boys remind me of exact dudes I hung out with growing up. And you two guys, the guys, they would protect me. I was a little bit of a wise guy. And I had a couple boys like you always around making sure I didn't get beat up too much. Was it Jason speaking of kind of like being in a room where you're like, how the fuck did I get here? Was there ever a moment like that early on? for you where you're just like how how did it happens so fast how did I get here yes yes yes I'm sure I like
Starting point is 00:14:28 I don't remember anything Saturday night live that that kind of did it to you every every week you meet superstars that you grew up with Dan Akroy like all the this the original S&L cast we got to meet so many of those cast members and then just comedians we all love growing up then rock rock stars we you know we got to meet the you know Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen And everybody we talked about, all of a sudden we were in the room shooting the shit with it. It was incredible. That's awesome, man. Before we get off a Happy Gilmore, though, I was, I'm actually curious.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I'm not familiar with how the original, like, thought process of the movie came, came about. Okay. And I'm a little, I'm pretty curious. Like, was it just, you just messing around on a, on a golf course and it kind of connecting the dots or what? It was, it was my dad, like I said, he liked golf. We used to go to the driving range. lot and I had a great friend Kyle McDunner who played ended up playing pro hockey and a great hockey player in New Hampshire it's a big hockey town oh yeah hell yeah yeah so so Kyle came out with me and my dad
Starting point is 00:15:33 and he didn't play much golf of my but he was banging him we were young maybe ninth grade or something something like that and he was banging him my father kept saying man you hockey players there's something about your wrist or the way you turn or something like that and and And I just was like, I think I was in college or finishing up college or just maybe 23. And I thought, man, man, that'd be pretty funny to see a guy with a hockey mentality have such a big hit that he gets up, gets on the tour. And I remember calling my dad and telling my dad about it and going, what do you think? And he was like, yeah, it could be pretty good. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:16:15 We'll see. We'll see. But me and my buddy Hurley, who I write all the movies, we would write that and we'd call my dad and say, does this make sense? And golf, when you put, what do you think? Like, and it's all in the hips and stuff like that. That was my dad. I would say, what is it?
Starting point is 00:16:31 He said, it's all in the hips, baby. It's all the hips. And that's why we wrote that here, you know. Chubs. Absolutely legendary, man. What's in store with the sequel? What do you, like, I don't know, without giving away too much, obviously. But, like, what are we looking for here?
Starting point is 00:16:44 Well, first of all, Travis, we're going to have fun because the scene you're doing is with so many great golfers. It's going to be amazing. You're going to be funny as hell. Oh, yeah. The movie itself, it just picks up from an older guy who's, you know, played golf a long time. Some stuff goes on in his life. He's a little, he's different. He's a bit of a mess when you meet happy.
Starting point is 00:17:13 and then we kind of try to get his life cooking again. Wonderful. I love it, man. I think it's cool. It's going to be going to be, I mean, we're trying to make you laugh the whole time, but it's got a cool vibe to it.
Starting point is 00:17:27 If you're doing it, it's going to be fucking great. You're on Fallon letting everybody know that you've been waiting for the right storyline. You've been waiting to like feel the moment of it and to do it right. Yes, yes. We got all the trust in the world.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You're going to bring happy back. and make them lovable again. Thank you, bro. Thank you. I love you. I don't want to want anyone to get let down. So you got that in the back of your head. You just want to make it as good as you're capable.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Me and my pal, I mean, we were just in the room. We just sit every line we're going on. We're sure? We're sure about this one? All right. This is good. We're just examining everything. We just want it to be as cool as possible.
Starting point is 00:18:08 The original got me on the golf course and it also got me in the batting cage doing shit. I probably shouldn't be doing it. But toughen enough. You did that? Just toughen enough. See, man, I knew you could handle that shit. I would run from anything going on to six.
Starting point is 00:18:23 How fast of a ball was hitting you? It's like 50-60. He was crazy, man. I was the guy in Little League when I got hit by a pitch. I just rolled in the chalk for a fucking 45 minutes. Oh! Oh, yeah. You got to wear it.
Starting point is 00:18:40 You got to wear it. Don't rub it. That's funny. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, boys, did you play the Little League baseball, too? Oh, you know, everything, man. Everything sports related. It was like the backyard was like a sports complex.
Starting point is 00:18:56 We would go up and get all the used equipment from played again sports. And my dad would get like everything for like $20. And he would just get the equipment, put it in our hands and let us have some fun with it, man. And so every day was getting home from school just so you could play sports, right? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. It's all we know, man.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It's all we know. Yeah. Let's get to a little, a little, some more familiar questions here. In case you aren't aware, Jason and I are not professional interviewers. I don't even know how to be a professional outside of football. We're just two big fans with a lot of fucking questions for you, man. As football players, we've got to lead with this. How many football guys come up to you and talk about the water boy, man?
Starting point is 00:19:39 I hear Bouchet a lot. Yeah. I'm very proud that I got to be Bobby Boucher. I have met a lot of great NFL fellas who have talked to me about Bobby and Bobby's mama and Fuzball, just Fuzball. Just Fuzball, baby. Making sure Mama don't find out. I'm playing foosball, that kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:20:01 We have, yes. Did you play, did you play growing up? I played Pop Warner until 12. I played till 12. I was a quarterback. I was a quarterback. in Pop Warner, I was playing baseball, and then I was a pitcher, and I was 11. And Ken Stillman, the coach of the team, came over and talked to my parents and said,
Starting point is 00:20:22 maybe Adam could be a quarterback. And my mother was like, oh, Adam doesn't play football. And my father was like, let him play. Because my father played football, actually. Okay. He was a linebacker. Oh, yeah. So then I got in there.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I got on the team, played two years of Pop Warner, and it was amazing. So cool, man. So freaking cool. Do you play any other sports? You play football, baseball? Baseball was my favorite basketball. I always played every sport. When I was young, I was decent.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Then everybody got big and way stronger than me, so I became less and less of, you didn't notice me. Like when I played Babe Ruth, baseball, I went from being, I was on the All-Star team in Little League to like, I think Adams on that team. I don't know. You know, I was back to sixth. I went from batten second or third.
Starting point is 00:21:11 to batten sixth and seventh and maybe deeper. The older I got, the worse I got. But you're still on the courts, man. I was about to say, yes, yes. Your skills on the court are iconic because you're just a facilitator. You just see the court, you see things before they happen. Remind me of a guy like Patty Mahomes and how his game is on the court. Sweet behind the backer, that behind the backer, I have dreams of throwing that to you.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Backdoor bounce passes. Oh, yeah. I'm all back door. That's all I ever talk to, because when I play, I always play with young dudes. And I always, if they're not moving, I always like, whisper them, I go, you got to move, bro. You got to stay on the move.
Starting point is 00:21:54 You got to go. You got to go. You got to go. I'll fake up high. Just cut down a lot. You got to move, though, for me. Because I ain't going to shoot. I got to get it to you.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Just a natural leader, baby. Yeah. I love it, man. It's so fun watching you in all those highlights, man. Oh, man, you guys must have been fun on a basketball court, grabbing rebounds. Jason used to beat my ass literally. I would win the game, but it would be a brutal ass beating.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And I would just get thrown on the cement the entire time. I used to win until you hit puberty, I would whoop your ass. But then there was one day, it's the last time we ever got in a fist fight. Oh, yeah. He freaking is just driving the lane. And he's finally as tall as I am doing this stupid fucking shot. I had a mean hook shot. And I can't stop.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It was so buttery. It was so buttery. So I start falling and just. beating the crap out of them. But yeah, it's, yeah, I know, I can play defense. I can play some defense now. But there's minimal offense being, I'll set picks. I will pick and rebound all day long.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That I see. That I know. That's cool as hell, man. Yeah, you boys on the, on the court must have been scary for the whole neighborhood. You told us about how happy Gilmore got, how does, how did you create a Creole Southern? Oh, so good. Like, where did the inspiration? I'm not sure if you heard us. We were literally like, I don't know how he didn't win more awards for this.
Starting point is 00:23:15 This was ridiculously good work. This is before I had seen life as beautiful. Roberto Benini, they did a great job with that. He did very good. He stepped it up for that shit. Yeah. Yeah, no, I wasn't getting Oscars. I never thought of that stuff when I was doing in Boucher, but I was, I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It was like, we had this idea, a water boy, gets picked up. on a lot. You know, a coach thinks he could be, you know, sees him throw a nasty hit and then says, maybe you should be on the team. That was kind of the idea. And we were like, let's make them from the South. Let's make them Cajun. And then we just went from there, man.
Starting point is 00:23:55 We just, I don't know how it happened. We just filled out a script like that. So good. So good. It probably felt right as it came together, too. You're just like, man, this is coming together. So, because it's start to finish, that thing is perfect. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I mean, we were so excited writing that. Thanks for all these compliments, guys. Honestly, I love you. I appreciate it. But so I remember with the Water Boy, we wanted that he had a very protective mama. And that, and that, there was this movie Carrie. It was a terrifying movie. And it was an overprotective mom who didn't want her daughter to be around anything
Starting point is 00:24:38 too heavy. And anyways, so we kind of wrote a mom like that that's overprotective to Bobby. And so he had to sneak around and play his foos balls. It's so good, man. Yeah. The breadth of which, like you did SNL, the comedy era that you were a part of was just so strong. It almost makes it unfair for modern day comedy, man.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Well, I mean, I watched these young guys down there. incredible. I love so many young comedians. I really do. And the Saturday Night Live cast after ours in the beginning when you first leave, when you, and you see the next cast, you're like, hey, what about us? We with this and that. But the older I got, I'd watch every cast, I'd be like, fuck, these guys are incredible. And the men and women on the show, and the way they, they handled themselves, I was like, oh, shit, man, I wish I had another crack at that because I'd do better next time. I like these guys. Anyways, it was it was It was lucky
Starting point is 00:25:38 Our era We were all best friends And me and my buddy Just like you guys are with your teammates And now we get to watch the youth be funny Do you have any like skit What was your favorite sketch Or the one that you think is like the most underrated
Starting point is 00:25:53 From your time in SNL I mean honestly fellas You know You guys both did the show You guys were great I saw you that fucking weekend Right Travis When you came back, I was telling you how fucking great.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I mean, you were so cool, confident as fuck out there. Funny as shit. You guys, honestly, you guys remind me so much of my boys growing up. That's why when I saw you on the show, it's like, fuck, it would be like if my friend Dave Canair hosted the show. He was just kind of like cool fucking dudes who know everything, no comedy, no sports, know everything, know how to be decent to their families. I fucking loved watching you out there.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Just channeling my inner Sandman and Farley, baby. There you go. Yes. Yes. Oh, my God, you would have loved Farley. He would have loved you guys, man. Farley was fucking great football player, by the way. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. A little Marquette rugby, too, baby. Exactly. And ready to fight, by the way. A couple of drinks, he was ready to go. Ready to throw down. For sure. It was honestly kind of like when he had a couple in him, we were like, calm the fuck down, bro. Let's not do this. No one else can fight by you. So good, man. I like it as sores. Yes, that's one of my favorite ones, dude. Oh, you like it, the juice.
Starting point is 00:27:11 The juice is good, yeah. That was good. That was this guy, Robert Smigel, who's one of the fucking greatest of all time. He's a great writer and a great performer. He plays Triumph, the dog, you know, the Ansova. Heck yeah. That dude, he wrote so many great skits. And he wrote the juice skit, and we got to walk around and go, you like it to juice.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, you like, yeah. That's good. You do it smoother than me, bud. It's so good, man. I forgot how to drop it in there. It's the best, man. How many times you get quotes told, do you, like, just, like, I mean, it's got to be just not stop. We get, we get it a lot on the streets, on the streets of New York.
Starting point is 00:27:48 They scream some shit at me. Does it get old? No, no, it's always fucking fun. It's always nice, like, shit when it comes at you that you, that you, I was, there are things brought up to me that I go, what the fuck is that? I have no idea what it is anymore. And then somebody would just remind me when you, you know, it was on your album, when you said this and this. And I go, fuck.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I don't remember saying any of that shit. Actually, last night, my daughter is watching 51st dates. And she's like, Dad, come watch. I go, I don't need to watch me. And she's like, watch this. Look how sweet you are. I go. And then I told her, I go, I got to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I remember Drew saying all that stuff. I don't remember me even talking. Like, it's like I look back at the shit. I don't even, I don't even fucking remember scene to scene. I'm like, oh, oh, we did that? I didn't remember that place. Have you, have you been someone that like you, you like to watch everything that you have? I mean, I'm sure nowadays, you're just, you're so engulfed in, you're in the edit and, like, directing it and everything, right?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yes, yes, yes. I've done that so long now that once we're done and the movie comes out, I kind of, I probably don't watch it for a few years, if it's on TV, I'll see it for a minute, but that's usually it. We, we, you stay with shit for like a year. You go, all right, I don't need to fucking see that anymore. Yeah, I couldn't, I can't really watch anything that I do when it's being recorded. But I have so much goddamn fun doing stuff like SNL and just like the, the comedy stuff that, um, I don't need to watch it.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I was so fulfilled doing it. That energy, yeah. Yeah, the energy is just so fulfilling that I don't want to ruin it by, by, by, critiquing myself. I know. I know. You definitely, you can look at your shit after and go,
Starting point is 00:29:36 oh, I thought I was better than that. What the fuck was I doing? I got a lot of that. Believe me, I got shit from when I was young that my kids show me. I go, I don't want to know that fucking exists. Holy shit. That was insane.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I watched the monologue because that was a moment that I wanted to remember forever. And like, just being on that fucking stage was the cool being behind that door and being on that stage and being in that studio was just so iconic. And you fucking walked out like so relaxed, man. How about being behind that fucking door? Dude. And your heart's pounded through your chest like, holy shit, it's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And just don't you, Travis, don't fall down these fucking steps. Do not fall down these steps. You are live, dude. You are alive. And your brother was there to help you too. That was nice. I was about to say you should have seen him in the first rehearsal. I was there the day before.
Starting point is 00:30:30 watching him kind of get ready and he comes out that door and he like starts choking up and I'm like there's nobody here this ain't live like what are we choking up for and he's saying exactly coming like standing behind that door yeah seeing the signatures all of that like fully hit him and it's just like such a moment so totally that Jason's been beat my ass all my whole life so I'm a cry baby anyways I just I get really really I'm engulfing in when I'm when I'm in on something I'm so fucking in on it and it just took it over man yeah It just took me over. It did, yeah, get you teary-eyed.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I had some of that. I hosted the show, again, like around six years ago. And same kind of feel. I'd walk around on a Thursday, two days before the fucking shit, the show. And then I was getting teary-eyed and looking in so many memories and so many greats that have been there and musical acts and fucking, you just think of when you were a little kid and all the shit, all the joy that place has brought you. It's the best.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah, you're in there forever now. You guys got to kill on that shit. I love it, man. You more than anybody I've ever watched has, like, it's not that you stayed the same. Like, I know you've evolved, but you've been so authentic in everything you've done. Like, from SNL to the movies, the stand-up, the one that just came out. Like, between what you wear, the people involved in it, like, it's all just so authentically. How have you, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Has this been like, how do you do that? Same way as you guys are doing your life. Same shit. You feel comfortable with certain people. Yeah. The same wavelength you're on. What makes you guys happy? What makes you click with teammates or just fucking, you know, offseason the guys you hang out with?
Starting point is 00:32:12 That's kind of like what I got with my buddies when we make the movies and we sit in a room and write the shit. And you have a similar sensibility. So I guess that's why we all do it together. Were you a Belushi and Akroyd? Yes. We're like going into it. Did you have like the guys where you were like, man, if I could just somehow be as funny as that guy? Well, I'll tell you, you never fucking think you're as good as the cast before you.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah. So like, yes, Belushi, Akroyd. I mean, he became like a guy that we hung out with. We got to, hey, I loved him so much. And he treated us so great. So awesome. It's kind of like fucking Andy Reid, just you have this respect for the fucking. guy and what he's seen.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And when he talks to you, kind of go, yes, yes, yes. And you feel like you get knowledge all the time. And fucking the castmates before you, you feel the same shit. You're just like, whatever they say, there's no reason for me to talk unless they ask me to talk. And that's about it. I know that feeling. Got that with Dana Carby, got that with all the guys, Dennis Miller, all the guys who
Starting point is 00:33:22 were older than us. and Jan Hooks and Victoria Jackson and the whole cast that was there before us, John Loves. We just fucking Kevin Neeland, all those guys. Whatever they had to say, we were loving it. Just a sponge, man. Yes, exactly, exactly. So you got to be.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I'm a girl, dad. My oldest is four. So I got a ways to go. Yes. One, do you have any advice? And two, when should I, I mean, they've seen some of your stuff, but when should I really start exposing them to the sandman? That's good, man.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I think at that age, yeah, there's no rush. Okay. All right. No rush to get to me. My, my, I got some animated movies that I feel kind of comfortable telling somebody, yeah, maybe you can watch, you know, Hotel Chance of Mania or Leo or something like that. I go, yeah, you'll feel all right there. But like, but I got to tell you, I have fucking three-year-olds come up to me and talk about Billy Madison. You know, they do say, are you Billy Madison?
Starting point is 00:34:21 I say, yes. They go, well, why do you not look? like him anymore. I go, well, Billy Madison's been fucking eating. He's a little hungry lately. But it'll all happen. My own kids, I don't throw my stuff at him too quick. It just happens.
Starting point is 00:34:35 They haven't seen a few of the filthy ones yet. And let's hope that they don't need to see that. Too good. Yeah, well, I actually saw you take the girls to the Taylor Swift premiere at the AMC theaters. That was, by the way, what a girl.
Starting point is 00:34:53 What a girl. You know, what a, I mean, she means, dude, she means so much to our house. Since the kids,
Starting point is 00:35:02 I think I was shooting like grown-ups or that's my boy or something in Massachusetts. And we listened to, and the kids were little, and we were listening to Taylor Swift and listening to every song. It was one of the first times
Starting point is 00:35:16 that you listened to every song on the record. Like, when I was a kid, I think the Beatles you did that, with maybe Elton John. You do every tune. Oh, yeah. Start to finish.
Starting point is 00:35:28 You know, when we start to finish? It's not like three hits. And you go, all right, let me skip. Fucking Taylor in our house, every tune. They knew every word. I loved listening to her in the car. I love what she had to say. Every message, every melody, just the production, how cool she was, what she meant to
Starting point is 00:35:48 to young girls, what she means to women, what she means to guys doing the right thing in life throughout the year. Saturday Night Live saw the kids there, took her time, hung out with them. And then at her, at her premiere for the movie, she talked to the kids and talked to them about their movie. You know, they did this Bob Mitzvah movie, and she talked about what she liked in it. And she just florists my family. So cool, man.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Floorism. Like I said, somebody asked me, who do you get nervous around? I said, I do get nervous around Taylor Swift because I don't want to fucking blow it from my and say something stupid. So I'm just like, shit, she means so much to my fucking house. I better say the right thing here. She was so grateful that you took the girls up there, man. It was absolute blast.
Starting point is 00:36:35 She's lifetime forever, along with the whole world. She just means, means so much. I appreciate that, brother. And you being together and you being, you guys, you're, I mean, that first, when you guys first started dating my God was my family like, yes. Look, how good they are together. He's a gentleman And she's having
Starting point is 00:36:56 So much fun with her Like anytime Taylor's laughing with you My whole fucking family It's like high-fiving And so good man You gotta be sweating over here We gotta see that dog behind you do Come here, baby
Starting point is 00:37:09 Say hi to the boy Did you just say that dog's name is bagels? Yeah bagels That's such a good name That is such a good name I've had a bunch of bulldogs over the years I've had a meatball Matsabal pickles
Starting point is 00:37:22 and this is a babu and here's a bagel. But bagels are going to me now. Come here, buddy. What the fuck? You want me to pick you up? Come here, buddy. Say hi. Oh, God. I'm so pumped to see it.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Let's call you. There he is. Oh, yeah. There he is. That right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he had to see him. Yeah, he's been here.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Exactly. The Georgia bulldog, I don't know how he can handle that heat. Yeah, dude. They don't like the heat, best. I know every time he's out there, my good Lord. He is not. He is not. in his element right now.
Starting point is 00:37:53 They get the ice out for him. They do the right thing. There we go. You worked with a lot of athletes in the past. You worked with Shaq, Michael Irvin, Kevin Garnett recently, and Anthony Edwards recently. All great. Do you feel like there's like an avenue of athletes being comfortable on the screen? Well, you guys.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Has anybody bombed it, basically, is what I'm asking. Oh, no. I mean, I'm sure. No names. No names. No, I don't got anybody who left that I went, oh, what happened there, man? None of that shit, man. I love them all.
Starting point is 00:38:30 They all come and have fun. We make sure whoever's doing, you guys are like doing us favors. I know, I know you got a busy life and you're coming and you've got to make my fucking movie a thousand times better. So we try to make sure anybody who comes by has a great time. It's a memorable time and try to get them in and out as quick as possible. Don't want anybody sitting and being bored. So, but, but no, I've got to meet so many grades over there. And you guys, you grew up, I think there's some sort of connection to how fucking
Starting point is 00:39:02 confident you are. And comedy, when you're being funny, it's, it's usually if you're confident in what you're saying and committing to something. So if you ask an athlete, it's probably going to be a little bit better if you say it like this and, you know, be strong when you say it. Yes, sir. Let's go. It's got, you're coachable.
Starting point is 00:39:21 All you guys. It's a coachable, yeah. There you go. I was about to say, got to be coachable in life, baby. You certainly do. How do you decide to make the jump from comedy guy to more of like the dramatic stuff throughout your career?
Starting point is 00:39:33 That was just like a challenge that you wanted to do or was it like? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is that. It's like that now. When I was younger, I did a movie a long time ago called Punch Drunk Love. And that was just luck. Luck.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I was doing my comedies, Paul Thomas Anderson, who's this amazing guy, an amazing director. He wrote this movie for me and said, give it a shot. He believed in me, so I did it. Nice. Had a few of those where I work with these elite directors and kind of do my best for them. And it's different than what I do. I, you know, like water boy and shit like that, we have fun writing that shit and doing that shit.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And it's the best time we could ever have. But when it comes to serious stuff, I just don't want to let down this. Just like you guys don't want to let down the coach. I don't want to let down the director. So I fucking just commit as hard as I can. Heck yeah. Accountability, baby. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. So we got to jump into your, we always do a Mount Rushmore of, of like Jason did, Mount Rushmore. Centers. Centers. I did Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yes. Who is your Mount Rushmore of, of, well, it says characters on here. Of your, of your characters. Of my own shit.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. Who is the Mount Rushmore of your characters, you think? Yeah. Shit. I never thought about this. It kind of changes what, which I love some of them one day. And then the next day, I'm like, why the fuck did I do that? But all right, let's see.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Billy Madison's always got to be up there because it was kind of the first movie that, let me kind of have a little control. Yeah. Me and my buddies and Tamara Davis was the director. And we kind of, we were young and we believed in it. So we got that done. I love Bobby, Boucher. Shit, man.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And I love being that guy. I love doing movies with Drew, Barrymore, and with Jennifer Anderson. So that was just, I can't pick. I don't know what my guy's names are in those, but whoever I was in those right now, I guess, yeah, I don't remember at all. I know Robbie Hart was one of them.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But whatever I did with those guys, I'd like to put up there. All right. I'm with you. And I don't mind. putting little Nicky up there too. Dude. There you go. One of my sneaky favorites, you know, brother. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Another one where you just, you engulfed, you just brought us all in with this. Yeah. It's so good, man. The sideways space and, oh, so good, man. Oh, man, I remember Nicholson, I met, I met Jack
Starting point is 00:42:11 Nicholson before we did our movie together and he said, now, before we start this, what what type of movie is it? Is little Nikki and he goes hey and I got to go oh Niffison just did it. Nicky to me that felt nice. That's so cool
Starting point is 00:42:27 man. Yeah that's so cool. Well I'll tell you what that's probably the the most epic Mount Rushmore I've ever fucking heard. Oh yeah. I love that. Dude. Tom I got to ask this little Nikki up there was so this. This isn't on the run but I want to who's your Mount Rushmore comedians
Starting point is 00:42:43 like on your list? Well my guys when I was young. Yeah. I love so many now. I got Of course. It's much broader than it was. But as a kid, what fucking connected me the most, Rodney Dangerfield was my, that was my number one. Got Dangerful.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Love Rodney, love Caddy Shacks, love back to school. Oh, yeah. Back to school. Yeah, baby. The best. The best. And I got to meet him and hang with them fucking loved them. So cool.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Shit, when I was young, I loved the Jerry Lewis to Avonacostello, the Marx Brothers. I love that stuff because I would watch that with my parents, had a great time with that. Then I loved, you know, Belushi and Accroyd was power in my house. Eddie Murphy. That was kind of it, too.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Eddie fucking stand-ups, you know, Stephen Wright was a big deal to me. Cheech and Chong, fucking love Cheecher-Chang. Yeah, yeah, I had a million of them. Actually, the special, the last song, I tried to throw a lot of the people who meant something to me in there.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I miss this stuff. There's this comedy, record, Derek and Clive. You guys ever hear of them? I am not. Dudley Moore who played Arthur. You remember the movie Arthur?
Starting point is 00:43:56 The English guy, he drank a lot of booze, funny as shit. He was in a comedy duo with this guy, Peter Cook, and he had these albums that they used to curse a lot, they'd get drunk together and be funny together. And somehow my father got it for me.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And I was in like, fucking sixth, seventh grade, listening to that going, oh my God, this is the best. So they had a big influence on on my cursing, I believe. We're football podcasts. We got to get into a little bit of your QB. You already told everybody that you were kind of a Pop Warner QB,
Starting point is 00:44:30 but the longest yard, man. Yes. How much like prep in the NFL were, you just out there winging it knowing that you still had the skill set? Or did you actually, you take some pointers from some guys? I was scared, man. I was, by the way, fellas, when I was at QB, I dropped so many snaps.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I used to, I used to, but I got my coach, you said, would you get your hands in there? I was so, I didn't get in there. I was terrified. As a center, you got to feel the pressure. You got to feel the pressure.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I apologize to you and everybody before you. Jim Otto, everybody. I made a mistake. I felt so bad at my hand on that cup. But I fucking, when I got my hands in there deep, man, it always worked out. But yeah, no, I took Sean Salisbury.
Starting point is 00:45:17 was nice enough. A great guy, he fucking, every day would throw the ball with me, taught me how to throw it a little farther, hard to be a little more confident with that. Because when I was pop-born, like, it would be like straight T-26 on break, on set, straight T-26 on right, ready, break. Then I'd get out there, my little baby voice,
Starting point is 00:45:36 I would throw that quarterback thing on, Ray! Sorry, what I did it. I don't do that bullshit. I was bullshit when I did it. I never sounded cool. But I remember Salisbury would always yell at me like, you got to command that team, get out there and fucking be a man about this.
Starting point is 00:45:54 This is so fucking good. Sorry, Bagel. So, good, gosh. In 97, you wrote a song called The Lonesome Kicker. Yes. Loved it. Would you ever write a song about any other positions? Or has that come up in your mind, any other sport like that or what, man?
Starting point is 00:46:12 Shit, yeah, I mean, if something fresh comes up for sure, man, but we did, we did fucking have the best time NFL films helped make a video with us. I got to hang out with a bunch of Steelers, Cordell Stewart, the bus. Yeah. They were all in the video. We hung out there. I've had a lot of dreams coming true, but I met a lot of you, you dudes, and I love you all. You're the best, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Thank you. Well, let's get to some no dumb questions with the Sandman himself. I'm ready. The segment is called, uh, no dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions, Adam, just dumbass people like me and Jason. Would you mind help an house with just one, baby? Please, please make me a part of it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Let's do this. All right, from Hey Bucknasty, whatever that may mean, out of all the movies that the Sandman is dropping, we still want to know what's happening in Bobby Boucher and Vicki Valleycourt's life. Did Bobby ever make it to the NFL? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, first of all, the good news is Bobby. saw Vicki's boobies, and he liked them.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Loved them, actually. Love them. He said like, but in that moment, he loved. He loved him. And he, and thank you very much, Vicki Valacour, for it for that. He did go to the NFL, I believe. Played a couple of years. Mama was just, Mama wanted him home.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So we had two good, good years running around with the teams, you know, saw some shit. probably shouldn't have seen. Things got a little crazy on occasion for Bobby, especially when they'd go to Vegas. And then he made himself back to mama and just fucking, you know, it's better off.
Starting point is 00:47:59 It's a beautiful story. Yeah. It's a beautiful story, we had to at least figure out what happened. Yeah, yeah. And that, that wraps it up with no dumb questions today.
Starting point is 00:48:09 That's enough. Man, honestly, Adam, we can't thank you enough for jumping on with this, brother. You are the, you are the goat of the comedy. that we grew up on and I can't thank you enough, man.
Starting point is 00:48:20 You shot me the text after S&L and it was like the full life circle moment of seeing, just feeling like I'm a part of something as cool as the Sandman. So I appreciate you. Even jumping on, having some fun down memory lane with us and everybody, make sure you check out the Netflix specialies got coming out, man. Appreciate that. And boys, on your end, on your end, both of you are so fucking happy for everything you guys got. all you've done congratulations jason on on uh i know you're gonna have a great time announcing and
Starting point is 00:48:52 doing a new new start who like you kick so much ass the fucking speech you gave when you guys won was unbelievable the funniest dude the best the best you're such everyone loves you and and Travis so fucking great watching you dominate out there and just bulldoze and soft hands and just a stud always in the right spot i don't know how the fuck you get so open or when you you're not open, it doesn't matter. They still, he's going to get it to you. You'll make shit happen. Both of you guys.
Starting point is 00:49:21 So, and by the way, Jason, my, you know, the cross-eyed guy in all my movies? Yes. He's in the special. He's in the, exactly. He's in the coffee. Exactly. The biggest fucking Eagles fan loves you. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Loves you. And when you guys fucking won, holy shit was their relief around. That fucking guy's depression. Every time the Eagles wouldn't win on a Sunday, I'd be like, well, you fucking wake up. You've been sleeping for fucking 20 hours. It's over. We're on to next week. But you went into Super Bowl was the greatest, buddy.
Starting point is 00:49:52 He loves you. We all love you. Both the guys and your family. Say hi to your parents and say hi to both your families. And Taylor, tell her we love it too. You know that. You're the best, dude. We won't take any more your time, man.
Starting point is 00:50:04 The Sandman, ladies and gentlemen. Right on, boys. We'll keep this computer on. Don't worry. Oh, you're the man, dude. Okay. We can't thank you enough for the time. We'll see you in a few weeks, brother.
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