New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Adam Sandler on favorite SNL moments, Casting Travis in Happy Gilmore 2 and What ‘The Waterboy’ is Doing Now | EP 125
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Oh, we jump it on?
Yes.
Yeah!
We did it!
We made it happen.
Yeah, boys.
You always got the flyest shit on, dude.
Everybody always tells you, I know it.
This shirt here, I think it's been three days in a row I'm wearing it.
I'm not, that's the only thing I'm not good at is changing.
You can wear that thing to dinner.
You wear it to the courts.
You wear that thing everywhere, man.
Isn't that pathetic?
That's the best.
I started doing that only because I, protecting hiding these tits, the tits got big,
so.
Can't help it.
Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen.
Hey!
We are a Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment.
That is correct.
We are your host.
I am Travis Kelsey.
This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, Cincinnati Bearcat
Alums, as you know, subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus, or wherever you get your podcast.
And follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S.
got an incredible guest coming on this episode.
And you're going to find out who it is.
There's clues on the screen right now.
You probably already know.
I mean, you probably got a little.
They'll probably ruin the surprise because it helps people tune in and watch it and we need to advertise it.
I mean, this is right up there.
You can't ruin this episode, though, man.
This will be so.
I met, we should just say his name because it's going to be.
Nope.
I met this person one time.
And let me tell you, I have not been starstruck by many people.
I did I was kind of like I am now I didn't know what to say like I was just in a loss of words
and I'm like just don't quote every movie he's ever been in because that's what every
dummy doo-do head does but I think I proceeded to probably do that if it's a good one you got to
just be tasteful with it if you're going to do it yeah it's going to be perfect timing and
great delivery you got to deliver it if you're going to do it oh you guys are in for a treat
I mean we're in for a treat too it's cool to even have this guy on
All right.
Our guest today is an absolute legend.
You may know him from his film and TV career spanning over three decades.
He's written and starred in some of the most iconic movies of all time,
including Billy Madison, happy Gilmore, the Waterboy, and so many more.
He's a one-time winner of the Mark Twain Prize for American humor.
A 16-time MTV Movie Award nominee.
He's got Teen Choice Awards, People Choice Awards,
a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Yeah.
He's a fan of high-quality,
H-2-O.
Jesus.
Have a...
Today, Jr.?
Spit it out.
That's right.
Our guest is the one and only Sandman.
Adam Sandler.
That's right, baby.
Boys, I'm so happy to see both of you guys.
Love you both.
You know that.
You know that.
Thank you so much for coming on, Adam.
This is incredible.
It's iconic, man.
You too, fellas.
Yes.
Yes.
Come on, Jason.
Hit me.
So you recently just finished a stand-up special.
Yes, yes.
That's going to be launching on.
on, I think, Tuesday on Netflix.
Yes, yes.
It comes out on Tuesday.
I did, I was doing a tour running around for like a couple of years, you know, in and out.
I kind of do it like I go away for a couple weeks and I go back home for a month or two.
Then I go do another couple weeks, that kind of thing.
Yeah.
And when I was out on the tour, I was like, oh, man, probably should make a special just so I,
because I know one day I'm going to throw this material out
and move on to some new stuff
so it might as well document it.
And so I said, let me do a special.
Netflix said, that sounds good.
And then I called Josh Safty, who's this great director,
and he did uncut gems.
Him and his brother, Benny, did uncut jams.
And I said to Josh, would you want to maybe direct a comedy special?
And he said, yeah, yeah,
and I thought we were just going to shoot a normal special,
but he just kind of took over
and made it a different style and different feel and through weird stuff at me.
And we, it's just, it's a special, but it's kind of like a movie.
It's different.
It's a little different.
Yeah.
I cannot wait for everybody to see this, man.
They let us preview it and that was alone, the coolest thing ever.
Oh, yeah.
It was awesome, brother.
So, thank you, bud.
What, um, you're right, it is different.
And it's like, kind of segmented.
There's a whole, like, thing going back and forth with the projection and all that.
What, how do you, how do you even get to, like, creating something like,
like that. I know that like stand-up, you're bringing on jokes and you're trying to figure out your
routine, but that thing was so unique. How did that whole process come about? Well, I was kind of
ready to just do a normal stand-up special. I was excited because I was kind of locked in. You know,
when you do stand-up and you're on the road, it evolves. You get better and better at your act
and figure out better things to talk about, figure out better ways to tell your thoughts or your jokes or
whatever the hell it is. And so I was kind of locked into a certain way that I was ready to,
ready to, you know, throw down. And then he, Josh was just kind of like, you know, we've seen,
seen you do a stand-up special already. I did one like six, six years ago. So he said,
let's try to come up with a new way to present it. So that's kind of what happened.
What made you want to get back into the stand-of realm? Like, you took a long hiatus from it.
Not too long.
I saw 100% fresh live, actually.
I was at the,
the Hayworth out there in LA, dude.
That's right, but I remember seeing you.
I was so,
fuck,
I was in a whole other world.
And,
uh,
I got,
I,
I remember two just off the top that I still remember.
There's a phone wall of keys.
Yes,
yes,
I fucking sing that every single time I walk out of the goddamn door.
Oh,
I love that,
I haven't forgotten.
I haven't forgotten since.
Love that.
And then,
and then,
uh,
I want to grow old with you,
dude.
Yes, I sang that too.
Yes, yes, I sang that for the special.
And that was six years ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is so fucking cool.
That was six years ago when I saw you.
That was so fucking cool, man.
I saw you at the, in the dressing room back there at the Hayworth.
You're the fucking man, dude.
You too, buddy.
And it was, I don't even know why I started.
Oh, yeah, here's what happened.
I was doing movies.
Life was going good.
You know, I did Saturday Night Live and me and my friends, you know,
Spade and Schneider and Rock, we used to run around and do stand up back.
then. So cool. And it was great. And then all of a sudden, I was doing a lot of movies and it just
became like your schedule was kind of overwhelmed. And so I stopped doing stand-up for maybe 20 years
or so. Sheesh. And then I was doing grown-ups. And all I heard was Kevin James and Chris Rock and
Schneider and Spade and Colin Quinn and all the guys in the movie and Norm McDonald all talking
about their gigs they had that weekend.
And I was like, I was a little jealous.
Like, oh, man, maybe I should get back on the road.
So that got me into it again.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
Well, make sure everyone you check out, love you.
It's streaming now on Netflix.
Wonderful jokes.
It's a very unique, as we've talked about, comedy stand-up special,
including a wonderful ode to comedy, which, man, if this world needs comedy more than
ever, it was just beautifully done, really well done.
Thank you, man.
We wrote a song that kind of just talked about all the movies and comedians that influenced me and my friends growing up and our generation and that kind of stuff.
And what we used to sit and watch growing up with our parents or with our buddies or whatever it was.
And so wrote a song that puts a lot of that stuff in there.
It's got music.
Fulmanco guitar that starts off with right away.
I'm like, man, he's bringing it right off the bat.
That's right.
I did my best.
By the way, that was terrifying because I knew sometimes when I'm alone in my room playing my guitar, I go, man, I think I could have been a guitar player.
I'm pretty damn good.
Then when I get on stage, I start getting my fingers get tight.
Everything's nerve wracking.
So when I was shooting a special, I was like, come on, man, let's get this thing right.
But I did all right.
I did all right.
You nailed it.
Thank you.
And then the Bluetooth comment hit a little bit too close to home from me.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that happens on occasion.
that happens.
Yeah, yeah, you don't, you don't like those times.
All right.
Let's talk about Happy Gilmore, too.
Because you got that coming up.
You just said you're moving to Jersey here coming up.
Yes.
That's what you're going there for, right?
The whole thing was to get to hang out with Travis.
That's why we put it together.
No, yeah, yeah, we're going there.
Travis, by the way, thank you.
I heard you talking about it.
And I was on your show, you guys.
And then, of course, I was like, you know, I was thinking,
We were talking about you playing my son while we were writing it literally like six months ago.
We were like, imagine if Travis was my first baby.
How funny that was.
Just a badass.
But we know football season.
I think I got the swing down.
You do.
I think I got the swing down.
Can you crack it like that?
I was out there the other day.
And it was literally the day after you went on Fallon and told everybody.
And I was like, man, you know what?
I just got to do a ceremonial one.
And I fucking ripped it.
You did.
It felt so good, dude.
You banged it.
What a feeling.
When you look up and that thing's going straight, you're like, that works, man.
How did that happen?
It's just the, oh, I bet you ripped the shit out.
What do you hit him when you, when you play?
You bang it along, don't you?
Yeah, I can hit it about 320 consistently off the drive.
But I could be three holes over or right next to a hole.
It's either way.
No, but I've seen your swing.
It is nice.
It's fun.
I got to say when I'm doing the Happy Gilmore swing, I'm maybe one for four with that.
It's not a thing.
A little TV magic on the back end.
There's definitely I call my own cuts.
All right, buddy.
Well, that's a long walk-up.
Boom!
You can hear Papma Holmes in the background telling you where we're going on.
That's got a good swing, too.
He can bang him too, I'm sure.
you guys have fun golfing up.
He's a way better player than I am.
He takes a way more serious.
I'm just out there for the fun, man.
Yeah, well, you're a fun man.
Everybody on this little hang here besides me seems like they have fun on the course.
I get a little snappy out there.
Snappy, a little frustrated.
Have you gotten back into playing at all just to kind of get ready for the movie?
Did you take a time off from playing golf?
Yeah, sort of similar to my comedy career.
I kind of dipped out for a while.
And then I was like, what am I doing, man?
Let me get back into golf.
And I absolutely, I played when I was a kid.
I played when I was like 12.
And my dad was awesome.
My dad was a really good golfer.
He'd shoot in a low 70s.
I still can't do it.
I can't get it there.
Holy cow.
I can't get down low.
I've had a good nine.
I had a good nine maybe two weeks ago at Riviera.
Oh, nice.
I think I could say.
That's where they play the Genesis Open.
That's a legit course.
That's a tough one.
I mean, I play from the whites, but I shot okay.
But I can't put 18 together.
I can't do it.
I can't concentrate that long.
Are you guys good with 18?
Dude, I suck.
I have a very little attention span.
It's like third to last in the Tahoe golf out of it.
Oh, yeah, but it was not good.
Didn't break 90 one time.
I hear you.
That's kind of my spot to around 88 or something.
I'm good.
I'm good probably playing 18.
When it gets to like 18, three days in a row, I am just cooked.
man, I am cooked and my swing is all over the place.
I'm not made for three days of golf in a row.
That's a lot of thinking.
That's a lot of thinking.
I can't stay still for that long.
Like right around hole six, I start going, what the hell am I doing here?
What happened in my life?
Do they have burgers on the turn?
What are we?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, once I eat at the clubhouse.
That's so funny.
When I grew up my dad, there was a, we used to play at this one place.
And I think it was whole 13.
They used to put out a Polish sausage.
and hot dogs and stuff like that.
And every time I ate there, my father would go,
oh, there it goes, game over.
He's going to stink now.
I'd be like, no, no, no.
And I would just eat too much
and just getting a little coma
and be staring.
My father would be going,
why did you eat that?
You moron.
I was about to say,
you inspired an entire, like,
generation to get on the golf course,
man.
I promise you,
you did.
I was one of the kids.
We used to go up to the public course
all the time and just wanted to absolutely
hammer them and hit him
with the happy Gilmore swing and everything.
And we were hockey players growing up.
So that, that, right, the movie, like,
It hit extra hard.
Yeah, boy.
It hits so hard, man.
Yes.
I know you, both you guys remind me of my friends so much growing up.
Like, oh, if you met my friends, what you did, you actually saw a few at the U2 show,
right?
That was awesome, man.
Oh, how cool was that concert?
That was incredible.
What a night.
But it was more fun seeing you there, buddy.
We love seeing you.
No, that was like, I was telling Trav, I've told him before, I told him,
reminded him again today.
I have not been starstruck, like, much of my life.
And seeing all of you guys next to me, like the entire ensemble,
especially you,
it was like, man, what the,
where are the fuck am I at right now?
That was cool, man.
It's insane, man.
I was like, I came here to watch you two and I saw every person that, like,
I ever looked up to,
like,
and like all of the best shows,
all the best movies.
Like,
it was so cool.
It was awesome.
Thank you, man.
Well,
we love seeing.
you too, but we talked about you flying home that night.
Anyways, that was a fun, fun time.
But you both you boys remind me of exact dudes I hung out with growing up.
And you two guys, the guys, they would protect me.
I was a little bit of a wise guy.
And I had a couple boys like you always around making sure I didn't get beat up too much.
Was it Jason speaking of kind of like being in a room where you're like, how the fuck did I get here?
Was there ever a moment like that early on?
for you where you're just like how how did it happens so fast how did I get here yes yes yes I'm sure I like
I don't remember anything Saturday night live that that kind of did it to you every every week
you meet superstars that you grew up with Dan Akroy like all the this the original S&L cast we got
to meet so many of those cast members and then just comedians we all love growing up then rock
rock stars we you know we got to meet the you know Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen
And everybody we talked about, all of a sudden we were in the room shooting the shit with it.
It was incredible.
That's awesome, man.
Before we get off a Happy Gilmore, though, I was, I'm actually curious.
I'm not familiar with how the original, like, thought process of the movie came, came about.
Okay.
And I'm a little, I'm pretty curious.
Like, was it just, you just messing around on a, on a golf course and it kind of connecting the dots or what?
It was, it was my dad, like I said, he liked golf.
We used to go to the driving range.
lot and I had a great friend Kyle McDunner who played ended up playing pro hockey and a great hockey player
in New Hampshire it's a big hockey town oh yeah hell yeah yeah so so Kyle came out with me and my dad
and he didn't play much golf of my but he was banging him we were young maybe ninth grade or something
something like that and he was banging him my father kept saying man you hockey players
there's something about your wrist or the way you turn or something like that and and
And I just was like, I think I was in college or finishing up college or just maybe 23.
And I thought, man, man, that'd be pretty funny to see a guy with a hockey mentality have such a big hit that he gets up, gets on the tour.
And I remember calling my dad and telling my dad about it and going, what do you think?
And he was like, yeah, it could be pretty good.
We'll see.
We'll see.
We'll see.
But me and my buddy Hurley, who I write all the movies, we would write that and we'd call my dad and say,
does this make sense?
And golf, when you put, what do you think?
Like, and it's all in the hips and stuff like that.
That was my dad.
I would say, what is it?
He said, it's all in the hips, baby.
It's all the hips.
And that's why we wrote that here, you know.
Chubs.
Absolutely legendary, man.
What's in store with the sequel?
What do you, like, I don't know, without giving away too much, obviously.
But, like, what are we looking for here?
Well, first of all, Travis, we're going to have fun because the scene you're doing is with so many great golfers.
It's going to be amazing.
You're going to be funny as hell.
Oh, yeah.
The movie itself, it just picks up from an older guy who's, you know, played golf a long time.
Some stuff goes on in his life.
He's a little, he's different.
He's a bit of a mess when you meet happy.
and then we kind of try to get his life cooking again.
Wonderful.
I love it, man.
I think it's cool.
It's going to be going to be,
I mean,
we're trying to make you laugh the whole time,
but it's got a cool vibe to it.
If you're doing it,
it's going to be fucking great.
You're on Fallon letting everybody know that you've been waiting for the right
storyline.
You've been waiting to like feel the moment of it and to do it right.
Yes,
yes.
We got all the trust in the world.
You're going to bring happy back.
and make them lovable again.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you.
I love you.
I don't want to want anyone to get let down.
So you got that in the back of your head.
You just want to make it as good as you're capable.
Me and my pal, I mean, we were just in the room.
We just sit every line we're going on.
We're sure?
We're sure about this one?
All right.
This is good.
We're just examining everything.
We just want it to be as cool as possible.
The original got me on the golf course and it also got me in the batting cage
doing shit.
I probably shouldn't be doing it.
But toughen enough.
You did that?
Just toughen enough.
See, man, I knew you could handle that shit.
I would run from anything going on to six.
How fast of a ball was hitting you?
It's like 50-60.
He was crazy, man.
I was the guy in Little League when I got hit by a pitch.
I just rolled in the chalk for a fucking 45 minutes.
Oh!
Oh, yeah.
You got to wear it.
You got to wear it.
Don't rub it.
That's funny.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, boys, did you play the Little League baseball, too?
Oh, you know, everything, man.
Everything sports related.
It was like the backyard was like a sports complex.
We would go up and get all the used equipment from played again sports.
And my dad would get like everything for like $20.
And he would just get the equipment, put it in our hands and let us have some fun with it, man.
And so every day was getting home from school just so you could play sports, right?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
It's all we know, man.
It's all we know.
Yeah.
Let's get to a little, a little, some more familiar questions here.
In case you aren't aware, Jason and I are not professional interviewers.
I don't even know how to be a professional outside of football.
We're just two big fans with a lot of fucking questions for you, man.
As football players, we've got to lead with this.
How many football guys come up to you and talk about the water boy, man?
I hear Bouchet a lot.
Yeah.
I'm very proud that I got to be Bobby Boucher.
I have met a lot of great NFL fellas who have talked to me about Bobby and Bobby's
mama and Fuzball, just Fuzball.
Just Fuzball, baby.
Making sure Mama don't find out.
I'm playing foosball, that kind of shit.
We have, yes.
Did you play, did you play growing up?
I played Pop Warner until 12.
I played till 12.
I was a quarterback.
I was a quarterback.
in Pop Warner, I was playing baseball, and then I was a pitcher, and I was 11.
And Ken Stillman, the coach of the team, came over and talked to my parents and said,
maybe Adam could be a quarterback.
And my mother was like, oh, Adam doesn't play football.
And my father was like, let him play.
Because my father played football, actually.
Okay.
He was a linebacker.
Oh, yeah.
So then I got in there.
I got on the team, played two years of Pop Warner, and it was amazing.
So cool, man.
So freaking cool.
Do you play any other sports?
You play football, baseball?
Baseball was my favorite basketball.
I always played every sport.
When I was young, I was decent.
Then everybody got big and way stronger than me,
so I became less and less of, you didn't notice me.
Like when I played Babe Ruth, baseball,
I went from being, I was on the All-Star team in Little League
to like, I think Adams on that team.
I don't know.
You know, I was back to sixth.
I went from batten second or third.
to batten sixth and seventh and maybe deeper.
The older I got, the worse I got.
But you're still on the courts, man.
I was about to say, yes, yes.
Your skills on the court are iconic because you're just a facilitator.
You just see the court, you see things before they happen.
Remind me of a guy like Patty Mahomes and how his game is on the court.
Sweet behind the backer, that behind the backer, I have dreams of throwing that to you.
Backdoor bounce passes.
Oh, yeah.
I'm all back door.
That's all I ever talk to, because when I play,
I always play with young dudes.
And I always, if they're not moving, I always like,
whisper them, I go, you got to move, bro.
You got to stay on the move.
You got to go.
You got to go.
You got to go.
I'll fake up high.
Just cut down a lot.
You got to move, though, for me.
Because I ain't going to shoot.
I got to get it to you.
Just a natural leader, baby.
Yeah.
I love it, man.
It's so fun watching you in all those highlights, man.
Oh, man, you guys must have been fun on a basketball court,
grabbing rebounds.
Jason used to beat my ass literally.
I would win the game, but it would be a brutal ass beating.
And I would just get thrown on the cement the entire time.
I used to win until you hit puberty, I would whoop your ass.
But then there was one day, it's the last time we ever got in a fist fight.
Oh, yeah.
He freaking is just driving the lane.
And he's finally as tall as I am doing this stupid fucking shot.
I had a mean hook shot.
And I can't stop.
It was so buttery.
It was so buttery.
So I start falling and just.
beating the crap out of them.
But yeah, it's, yeah, I know, I can play
defense. I can play some defense now. But there's
minimal offense being, I'll set picks.
I will pick and rebound all day long.
That I see. That I know. That's cool as hell, man.
Yeah, you boys on the, on the court must have been
scary for the whole neighborhood.
You told us about how happy Gilmore got,
how does, how did you create a Creole Southern?
Oh, so good. Like, where did the inspiration?
I'm not sure if you heard us.
We were literally like, I don't know how he didn't win more awards for this.
This was ridiculously good work.
This is before I had seen life as beautiful.
Roberto Benini, they did a great job with that.
He did very good.
He stepped it up for that shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I wasn't getting Oscars.
I never thought of that stuff when I was doing in Boucher, but I was, I couldn't believe it.
It was like, we had this idea, a water boy, gets picked up.
on a lot.
You know, a coach thinks he could be, you know, sees him throw a nasty hit and then says,
maybe you should be on the team.
That was kind of the idea.
And we were like, let's make them from the South.
Let's make them Cajun.
And then we just went from there, man.
We just, I don't know how it happened.
We just filled out a script like that.
So good.
So good.
It probably felt right as it came together, too.
You're just like, man, this is coming together.
So, because it's start to finish, that thing is perfect.
Oh, dear.
I mean, we were so excited writing that.
Thanks for all these compliments, guys.
Honestly, I love you.
I appreciate it.
But so I remember with the Water Boy, we wanted that he had a very protective mama.
And that, and that, there was this movie Carrie.
It was a terrifying movie.
And it was an overprotective mom who didn't want her daughter to be around anything
too heavy.
And anyways, so we kind of wrote a mom like that that's overprotective to Bobby.
And so he had to sneak around and play his foos balls.
It's so good, man.
Yeah.
The breadth of which, like you did SNL, the comedy era that you were a part of was just so
strong.
It almost makes it unfair for modern day comedy, man.
Well, I mean, I watched these young guys down there.
incredible. I love so many young comedians. I really do. And the Saturday Night Live cast after ours
in the beginning when you first leave, when you, and you see the next cast, you're like, hey, what about us?
We with this and that. But the older I got, I'd watch every cast, I'd be like, fuck, these guys are
incredible. And the men and women on the show, and the way they, they handled themselves, I was like,
oh, shit, man, I wish I had another crack at that because I'd do better next time. I like these guys.
Anyways, it was it was
It was lucky
Our era
We were all best friends
And me and my buddy
Just like you guys are with your teammates
And now we get to watch the youth be funny
Do you have any like skit
What was your favorite sketch
Or the one that you think is like the most underrated
From your time in SNL
I mean honestly fellas
You know
You guys both did the show
You guys were great
I saw you that fucking weekend
Right Travis
When you came back, I was telling you how fucking great.
I mean, you were so cool, confident as fuck out there.
Funny as shit.
You guys, honestly, you guys remind me so much of my boys growing up.
That's why when I saw you on the show, it's like, fuck, it would be like if my friend
Dave Canair hosted the show.
He was just kind of like cool fucking dudes who know everything, no comedy, no sports,
know everything, know how to be decent to their families.
I fucking loved watching you out there.
Just channeling my inner Sandman and Farley, baby.
There you go. Yes. Yes. Oh, my God, you would have loved Farley. He would have loved you guys, man. Farley was fucking great football player, by the way. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. A little Marquette rugby, too, baby.
Exactly. And ready to fight, by the way. A couple of drinks, he was ready to go.
Ready to throw down. For sure. It was honestly kind of like when he had a couple in him, we were like, calm the fuck down, bro. Let's not do this. No one else can fight by you.
So good, man.
I like it as sores.
Yes, that's one of my favorite ones, dude.
Oh, you like it, the juice.
The juice is good, yeah.
That was good.
That was this guy, Robert Smigel, who's one of the fucking greatest of all time.
He's a great writer and a great performer.
He plays Triumph, the dog, you know, the Ansova.
Heck yeah.
That dude, he wrote so many great skits.
And he wrote the juice skit, and we got to walk around and go, you like it to juice.
Yeah, you like, yeah.
That's good.
You do it smoother than me, bud.
It's so good, man.
I forgot how to drop it in there.
It's the best, man.
How many times you get quotes told, do you, like, just, like, I mean, it's got to be just not stop.
We get, we get it a lot on the streets, on the streets of New York.
They scream some shit at me.
Does it get old?
No, no, it's always fucking fun.
It's always nice, like, shit when it comes at you that you, that you, I was, there
are things brought up to me that I go, what the fuck is that?
I have no idea what it is anymore.
And then somebody would just remind me when you, you know, it was on your album, when you said this and this.
And I go, fuck.
I don't remember saying any of that shit.
Actually, last night, my daughter is watching 51st dates.
And she's like, Dad, come watch.
I go, I don't need to watch me.
And she's like, watch this.
Look how sweet you are.
I go.
And then I told her, I go, I got to be honest with you.
I remember Drew saying all that stuff.
I don't remember me even talking.
Like, it's like I look back at the shit.
I don't even, I don't even fucking remember scene to scene.
I'm like, oh, oh, we did that?
I didn't remember that place.
Have you, have you been someone that like you, you like to watch everything that you have?
I mean, I'm sure nowadays, you're just, you're so engulfed in, you're in the edit and, like, directing it and everything, right?
Yes, yes, yes.
I've done that so long now that once we're done and the movie comes out, I kind of, I probably don't watch it for a few years,
if it's on TV, I'll see it for a minute, but that's usually it.
We, we, you stay with shit for like a year.
You go, all right, I don't need to fucking see that anymore.
Yeah, I couldn't, I can't really watch anything that I do when it's being recorded.
But I have so much goddamn fun doing stuff like SNL and just like the, the comedy stuff that,
um, I don't need to watch it.
I was so fulfilled doing it.
That energy, yeah.
Yeah, the energy is just so fulfilling that I don't want to ruin it by, by, by,
critiquing myself.
I know.
I know.
You definitely,
you can look at your shit after and go,
oh, I thought I was better than that.
What the fuck was I doing?
I got a lot of that.
Believe me,
I got shit from when I was young that my kids show me.
I go, I don't want to know that fucking exists.
Holy shit.
That was insane.
I watched the monologue because that was a moment that I wanted to remember forever.
And like,
just being on that fucking stage was the cool being behind that door and being on that
stage and being in that studio was just so iconic.
And you fucking walked out like so relaxed, man.
How about being behind that fucking door?
Dude.
And your heart's pounded through your chest like, holy shit, it's happening right now.
And just don't you, Travis, don't fall down these fucking steps.
Do not fall down these steps.
You are live, dude.
You are alive.
And your brother was there to help you too.
That was nice.
I was about to say you should have seen him in the first rehearsal.
I was there the day before.
watching him kind of get ready and he comes out that door and he like starts choking up and I'm like
there's nobody here this ain't live like what are we choking up for and he's saying exactly coming like
standing behind that door yeah seeing the signatures all of that like fully hit him and it's just like such
a moment so totally that Jason's been beat my ass all my whole life so I'm a cry baby anyways I just
I get really really I'm engulfing in when I'm when I'm in on something I'm so fucking in on it
and it just took it over man yeah
It just took me over.
It did, yeah, get you teary-eyed.
I had some of that.
I hosted the show, again, like around six years ago.
And same kind of feel.
I'd walk around on a Thursday, two days before the fucking shit, the show.
And then I was getting teary-eyed and looking in so many memories and so many
greats that have been there and musical acts and fucking, you just think of when you were
a little kid and all the shit, all the joy that place has brought you.
It's the best.
Yeah, you're in there forever now.
You guys got to kill on that shit.
I love it, man.
You more than anybody I've ever watched has, like, it's not that you stayed the same.
Like, I know you've evolved, but you've been so authentic in everything you've done.
Like, from SNL to the movies, the stand-up, the one that just came out.
Like, between what you wear, the people involved in it, like, it's all just so authentically.
How have you, I don't know.
Has this been like, how do you do that?
Same way as you guys are doing your life.
Same shit.
You feel comfortable with certain people.
Yeah.
The same wavelength you're on.
What makes you guys happy?
What makes you click with teammates or just fucking, you know, offseason the guys you hang out with?
That's kind of like what I got with my buddies when we make the movies and we sit in a room and write the shit.
And you have a similar sensibility.
So I guess that's why we all do it together.
Were you a Belushi and Akroyd?
Yes.
We're like going into it.
Did you have like the guys where you were like, man, if I could just somehow be as funny as that guy?
Well, I'll tell you, you never fucking think you're as good as the cast before you.
Yeah.
So like, yes, Belushi, Akroyd.
I mean, he became like a guy that we hung out with.
We got to, hey, I loved him so much.
And he treated us so great.
So awesome.
It's kind of like fucking Andy Reid, just you have this respect for the fucking.
guy and what he's seen.
And when he talks to you, kind of go, yes, yes, yes.
And you feel like you get knowledge all the time.
And fucking the castmates before you, you feel the same shit.
You're just like, whatever they say, there's no reason for me to talk unless they ask me
to talk.
And that's about it.
I know that feeling.
Got that with Dana Carby, got that with all the guys, Dennis Miller, all the guys who
were older than us.
and Jan Hooks and Victoria Jackson and the whole cast that was there before us,
John Loves.
We just fucking Kevin Neeland, all those guys.
Whatever they had to say, we were loving it.
Just a sponge, man.
Yes, exactly, exactly.
So you got to be.
I'm a girl, dad.
My oldest is four.
So I got a ways to go.
Yes.
One, do you have any advice?
And two, when should I, I mean, they've seen some of your stuff,
but when should I really start exposing them to the sandman?
That's good, man.
I think at that age, yeah, there's no rush.
Okay.
All right.
No rush to get to me.
My, my, I got some animated movies that I feel kind of comfortable telling somebody, yeah, maybe you can watch, you know, Hotel Chance of Mania or Leo or something like that.
I go, yeah, you'll feel all right there.
But like, but I got to tell you, I have fucking three-year-olds come up to me and talk about Billy Madison.
You know, they do say, are you Billy Madison?
I say, yes.
They go, well, why do you not look?
like him anymore. I go, well, Billy Madison's been
fucking eating.
He's a little hungry lately.
But it'll all happen. My own
kids, I don't throw my stuff
at him too quick. It just happens.
They haven't seen
a few of the filthy ones yet.
And let's hope that they don't need to see that.
Too good. Yeah, well, I actually
saw you take the girls to
the Taylor Swift premiere
at the AMC theaters.
That was, by the way, what a girl.
What a girl.
You know,
what a,
I mean,
she means,
dude,
she means so much to our house.
Since the kids,
I think I was shooting
like grown-ups or
that's my boy or something in Massachusetts.
And we listened to,
and the kids were little,
and we were listening to Taylor Swift
and listening to every song.
It was one of the first times
that you listened to every song on the record.
Like,
when I was a kid,
I think the Beatles you did that,
with maybe Elton John.
You do every tune.
Oh, yeah.
Start to finish.
You know, when we start to finish?
It's not like three hits.
And you go, all right, let me skip.
Fucking Taylor in our house, every tune.
They knew every word.
I loved listening to her in the car.
I love what she had to say.
Every message, every melody, just the production, how cool she was, what she meant to
to young girls, what she means to women, what she means to guys doing the
right thing in life throughout the year.
Saturday Night Live saw the kids there, took her time, hung out with them.
And then at her, at her premiere for the movie, she talked to the kids and talked to them
about their movie.
You know, they did this Bob Mitzvah movie, and she talked about what she liked in it.
And she just florists my family.
So cool, man.
Floorism.
Like I said, somebody asked me, who do you get nervous around?
I said, I do get nervous around Taylor Swift because I don't want to fucking blow it from my
and say something stupid.
So I'm just like, shit, she means so much to my fucking house.
I better say the right thing here.
She was so grateful that you took the girls up there, man.
It was absolute blast.
She's lifetime forever, along with the whole world.
She just means, means so much.
I appreciate that, brother.
And you being together and you being, you guys, you're, I mean, that first,
when you guys first started dating my God was my family like, yes.
Look, how good they are together.
He's a gentleman
And she's having
So much fun with her
Like anytime Taylor's laughing with you
My whole fucking family
It's like high-fiving
And so good man
You gotta be sweating over here
We gotta see that dog behind you do
Come here, baby
Say hi to the boy
Did you just say that dog's name is bagels?
Yeah bagels
That's such a good name
That is such a good name
I've had a bunch of bulldogs over the years
I've had a meatball
Matsabal pickles
and this is a babu and here's a bagel.
But bagels are going to me now.
Come here, buddy.
What the fuck?
You want me to pick you up?
Come here, buddy.
Say hi.
Oh, God. I'm so pumped to see it.
Let's call you.
There he is.
Oh, yeah.
There he is.
That right.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he had to see him.
Yeah, he's been here.
Exactly.
The Georgia bulldog, I don't know how he can handle that heat.
Yeah, dude.
They don't like the heat, best.
I know every time he's out there, my good Lord.
He is not.
He is not.
in his element right now.
They get the ice out for him.
They do the right thing.
There we go.
You worked with a lot of athletes in the past.
You worked with Shaq, Michael Irvin, Kevin Garnett recently, and Anthony Edwards recently.
All great.
Do you feel like there's like an avenue of athletes being comfortable on the screen?
Well, you guys.
Has anybody bombed it, basically, is what I'm asking.
Oh, no.
I mean, I'm sure.
No names.
No names.
No, I don't got anybody who left that I went, oh, what happened there, man?
None of that shit, man.
I love them all.
They all come and have fun.
We make sure whoever's doing, you guys are like doing us favors.
I know, I know you got a busy life and you're coming and you've got to make my fucking movie a thousand times better.
So we try to make sure anybody who comes by has a great time.
It's a memorable time and try to get them in and out as quick as possible.
Don't want anybody sitting and being bored.
So, but, but no, I've got to meet so many grades over there.
And you guys, you grew up, I think there's some sort of connection to how fucking
confident you are.
And comedy, when you're being funny, it's, it's usually if you're confident in what you're
saying and committing to something.
So if you ask an athlete, it's probably going to be a little bit better if you say it like
this and, you know, be strong when you say it.
Yes, sir.
Let's go.
It's got, you're coachable.
All you guys.
It's a coachable, yeah.
There you go.
I was about to say,
got to be coachable in life, baby.
You certainly do.
How do you decide to make the jump from comedy guy
to more of like the dramatic stuff throughout your career?
That was just like a challenge that you wanted to do or was it like?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is that.
It's like that now.
When I was younger,
I did a movie a long time ago called Punch Drunk Love.
And that was just luck.
Luck.
I was doing my comedies,
Paul Thomas Anderson, who's this amazing guy, an amazing director.
He wrote this movie for me and said, give it a shot.
He believed in me, so I did it.
Nice.
Had a few of those where I work with these elite directors and kind of do my best for them.
And it's different than what I do.
I, you know, like water boy and shit like that, we have fun writing that shit and doing that shit.
And it's the best time we could ever have.
But when it comes to serious stuff, I just don't want to let down this.
Just like you guys don't want to let down the coach.
I don't want to let down the director.
So I fucking just commit as hard as I can.
Heck yeah.
Accountability, baby.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So we got to jump into your,
we always do a Mount Rushmore of,
of like Jason did,
Mount Rushmore.
Centers.
Centers.
I did Mount Rushmore.
Yes.
Who is your Mount Rushmore of,
of,
well,
it says characters on here.
Of your,
of your characters.
Of my own shit.
Yeah.
Who is the Mount Rushmore of your characters, you think?
Yeah.
Shit.
I never thought about this.
It kind of changes what, which I love some of them one day.
And then the next day, I'm like, why the fuck did I do that?
But all right, let's see.
Billy Madison's always got to be up there because it was kind of the first movie that,
let me kind of have a little control.
Yeah.
Me and my buddies and Tamara Davis was the director.
And we kind of, we were young and we believed in it.
So we got that done.
I love Bobby, Boucher.
Shit, man.
And I love being that guy.
I love doing movies with Drew, Barrymore,
and with Jennifer Anderson.
So that was just, I can't pick.
I don't know what my guy's names are in those,
but whoever I was in those right now, I guess, yeah,
I don't remember at all.
I know Robbie Hart was one of them.
But whatever I did with those guys, I'd like to put up there.
All right.
I'm with you.
And I don't mind.
putting little Nicky up there too.
Dude. There you go.
One of my sneaky
favorites, you know, brother. Seriously.
Another one where you just, you
engulfed, you just brought us
all in with this.
Yeah.
It's so good, man.
The sideways space and, oh,
so good, man. Oh, man, I remember
Nicholson, I met, I met Jack
Nicholson before we did our movie
together and he said, now, before
we start this, what
what type of movie is it? Is
little Nikki and he goes hey
and I got to go oh
Niffison just did it. Nicky to me
that felt nice. That's so cool
man. Yeah that's so cool. Well I'll
tell you what that's probably the the most
epic Mount Rushmore I've
ever fucking heard. Oh yeah.
I love that. Dude.
Tom I got to ask this little Nikki up there was so
this. This isn't on the run
but I want to who's your Mount Rushmore comedians
like on your list? Well my
guys when I was young.
Yeah. I love so many now. I got
Of course.
It's much broader than it was.
But as a kid, what fucking connected me the most,
Rodney Dangerfield was my, that was my number one.
Got Dangerful.
Love Rodney, love Caddy Shacks, love back to school.
Oh, yeah.
Back to school.
Yeah, baby.
The best.
The best.
And I got to meet him and hang with them fucking loved them.
So cool.
Shit, when I was young, I loved the Jerry Lewis to Avonacostello,
the Marx Brothers.
I love that stuff because I would watch that with my parents,
had a great time with that.
Then I loved, you know,
Belushi and Accroyd was power in my house.
Eddie Murphy.
That was kind of it, too.
Eddie fucking stand-ups,
you know, Stephen Wright was a big deal to me.
Cheech and Chong,
fucking love Cheecher-Chang.
Yeah, yeah, I had a million of them.
Actually, the special, the last song,
I tried to throw a lot of the people
who meant something to me in there.
I miss this stuff.
There's this comedy,
record, Derek and Clive.
You guys ever hear of them?
I am not.
Dudley Moore
who played Arthur.
You remember the movie Arthur?
The English guy, he drank a lot of booze,
funny as shit.
He was in a comedy duo
with this guy, Peter Cook,
and he had these albums that they used to curse
a lot, they'd get drunk together and be funny
together.
And somehow my father got it for me.
And I was in like, fucking sixth,
seventh grade, listening to that going,
oh my God, this is the best.
So they had a big influence on
on my cursing, I believe.
We're football podcasts.
We got to get into a little bit of your QB.
You already told everybody that you were kind of a Pop Warner QB,
but the longest yard, man.
Yes.
How much like prep in the NFL were,
you just out there winging it knowing that you still had the skill set?
Or did you actually, you take some pointers from some guys?
I was scared, man.
I was, by the way, fellas, when I was at QB,
I dropped so many snaps.
I used to, I used to,
but I got my coach, you said,
would you get your hands in there?
I was so, I didn't get in there.
I was terrified.
As a center,
you got to feel the pressure.
You got to feel the pressure.
I apologize to you and everybody before you.
Jim Otto, everybody.
I made a mistake.
I felt so bad at my hand on that cup.
But I fucking,
when I got my hands in there deep, man,
it always worked out.
But yeah, no, I took Sean Salisbury.
was nice enough.
A great guy, he fucking, every day would throw the ball with me,
taught me how to throw it a little farther,
hard to be a little more confident with that.
Because when I was pop-born, like,
it would be like straight T-26 on break, on set,
straight T-26 on right, ready, break.
Then I'd get out there, my little baby voice,
I would throw that quarterback thing on,
Ray!
Sorry, what I did it.
I don't do that bullshit.
I was bullshit when I did it.
I never sounded cool.
But I remember Salisbury would always yell at me like,
you got to command that team, get out there and fucking be a man about this.
This is so fucking good.
Sorry, Bagel.
So, good, gosh.
In 97, you wrote a song called The Lonesome Kicker.
Yes.
Loved it.
Would you ever write a song about any other positions?
Or has that come up in your mind, any other sport like that or what, man?
Shit, yeah, I mean, if something fresh comes up for sure,
man, but we did, we did fucking have the best time NFL films helped make a video with us.
I got to hang out with a bunch of Steelers, Cordell Stewart, the bus.
Yeah.
They were all in the video.
We hung out there.
I've had a lot of dreams coming true, but I met a lot of you, you dudes, and I love you all.
You're the best, dude.
Thank you.
Well, let's get to some no dumb questions with the Sandman himself.
I'm ready.
The segment is called, uh,
no dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions, Adam, just dumbass people
like me and Jason.
Would you mind help an house with just one, baby?
Please, please make me a part of it.
Let's do this.
All right, from Hey Bucknasty, whatever that may mean, out of all the movies that the
Sandman is dropping, we still want to know what's happening in Bobby Boucher and Vicki
Valleycourt's life.
Did Bobby ever make it to the NFL?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, first of all, the good news is Bobby.
saw Vicki's boobies, and he liked them.
Loved them, actually. Love them. He said like, but
in that moment, he loved.
He loved him. And he, and thank you very much,
Vicki Valacour, for it for that.
He did go to the NFL, I believe.
Played a couple of years.
Mama was just,
Mama wanted him home.
So we had two good, good years running around
with the teams, you know, saw some shit.
probably shouldn't have seen.
Things got a little crazy on occasion for Bobby,
especially when they'd go to Vegas.
And then he made himself back to mama and just fucking,
you know,
it's better off.
It's a beautiful story.
Yeah.
It's a beautiful story,
we had to at least figure out what happened.
Yeah,
yeah.
And that,
that wraps it up with no dumb questions today.
That's enough.
Man, honestly,
Adam,
we can't thank you enough for jumping on with this,
brother.
You are the,
you are the goat of the comedy.
that we grew up on and I can't thank you enough, man.
You shot me the text after S&L and it was like the full life circle moment of seeing,
just feeling like I'm a part of something as cool as the Sandman.
So I appreciate you.
Even jumping on, having some fun down memory lane with us and everybody,
make sure you check out the Netflix specialies got coming out, man.
Appreciate that.
And boys, on your end, on your end, both of you are so fucking happy for everything you guys got.
all you've done congratulations jason on on uh i know you're gonna have a great time announcing and
doing a new new start who like you kick so much ass the fucking speech you gave when you guys won
was unbelievable the funniest dude the best the best you're such everyone loves you and and
Travis so fucking great watching you dominate out there and just bulldoze and soft hands and
just a stud always in the right spot i don't know how the fuck you get so open or when you
you're not open, it doesn't matter.
They still, he's going to get it to you.
You'll make shit happen.
Both of you guys.
So, and by the way, Jason, my, you know, the cross-eyed guy in all my movies?
Yes.
He's in the special.
He's in the, exactly.
He's in the coffee.
Exactly.
The biggest fucking Eagles fan loves you.
Yeah, baby.
Loves you.
And when you guys fucking won, holy shit was their relief around.
That fucking guy's depression.
Every time the Eagles wouldn't win on a Sunday, I'd be like, well, you fucking wake up.
You've been sleeping for fucking 20 hours.
It's over.
We're on to next week.
But you went into Super Bowl was the greatest, buddy.
He loves you.
We all love you.
Both the guys and your family.
Say hi to your parents and say hi to both your families.
And Taylor, tell her we love it too.
You know that.
You're the best, dude.
We won't take any more your time, man.
The Sandman, ladies and gentlemen.
Right on, boys.
We'll keep this computer on.
Don't worry.
Oh, you're the man, dude.
Okay.
We can't thank you enough for the time.
We'll see you in a few weeks, brother.
All right.
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