New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Bill Murray Prank Calls, Affleck's Brady Catch, Will Ferrell Dating Advice & MORE | Best Of

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

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And all you have to do is not. That's all you got to do is not. Because it just means, you know, I bet you Mike can find my phone number. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. That's welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a Wondry show produced by Waysports and Entertainment and brought to you by Draft Kings. That's right.

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I'm so happy to see both you guys. Before we get off Happy Gilmore though, I was, I'm actually curious. I'm not familiar with how the original like thought process of the movie came about. Okay. Yeah. And I'm a little I'm pretty curious. Like

was it just you just messing around on a golf course and it kind of connecting the dots or what? It was it was my dad like I said he liked golf. We used to go to the driving range a lot and I had a great friend Kyle McDonough who played, ended up playing pro hockey. He's a great hockey player. In New Hampshire, it's a big hockey town. Oh, yeah,

hell yeah. Yeah. So Kyle came out with me and my dad, and he didn't play much golf, but he was banging him. We were young, maybe ninth grade or something, something like that. And he was banging him. My father kept saying, man, you hockey players, there's something about your wrist or the way you turn or something like that. And I just was like, I think I was in college or or finishing up college or just maybe 23. And I thought, man, man, that'd be pretty funny to see a guy with a hockey mentality have such a big hit that he gets up, gets on the tour. And I remember calling my dad and telling my dad about it and going, what do you think?

And he was like, well, it could be pretty good. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. But me and my buddy Hurley, who I write all the movies, we would write that. And we'd call my dad and say, does this make sense? and golf, when you put, what do you think? Like, and it's all in the hips and stuff like that.

That was my dad, I would say, what is it? He said, it's all the hips, baby. It's all the hips. And that's why we wrote that shit, you know. Chubs. Chubs, yeah. As football players, we've got to lead with this. How many football guys come up to you and talk about the water boy, man?

I hear Boucher a lot. Yeah. I'm very proud that I got to be Bobby Boucher. I have met a lot of great NFL. fellas who have talked to me about Bobby and Bobby's mama and foosball, just foosball. Just foosball, baby. Making sure mama don't find out. I'm playing foosball, that kind of shit.

We have, yes. Did you play, did you play growing up? I played Pop Warner until, I, at 12. I played till 12. I was a quarterback. I was a quarterback in Pop Warner. I was playing baseball. And then I was a pitcher.

And I was 11. And Ken, Ken Stillman, the coach of, the team came over and talked to my parents and said maybe Adam could be a quarterback and my mother was like, oh, Adam doesn't play football. And my father was like, let him play. Because my father played football actually. He was a linebacker. Oh, yeah. So then I got in there, uh, uh, I got on the team, played two years of Pop Warner and it was, it was amazing. So cool, man. You told us about how, uh, Happy Gilmore got, how does, how did you create a Creole Southern? Uh, so good. Like, Where did the inspiration?

I'm not sure if you heard us. We were literally like, I don't know how he didn't win more awards for this. This was ridiculously good work. This was before I had seen life as beautiful. Roberto Benini, they did a great job with that. He did very good. He stepped it up for that shit. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I wasn't getting Oscars. I never thought of that stuff when I was doing in Boucher, but, but I was, I couldn't believe it. It was like, we had this idea. a water boy gets picked on a lot you know a coach thinks he could be you know sees him throw a nasty hit and then says maybe you should be on the team that was kind of the the the idea and we were like let's let's make them from the south let's make them Cajun and then we just went from there man we just

I don't know how it happened we just filled out a script like that so good so good it probably felt right as it came together too you're just like man this is coming together so smooth because it's so start to finish that thing is perfect. Oh, do I mean, we were so excited writing that. Thank, thanks for all these compliments, guys. Honestly, I love you. I appreciate it.

But so I remember with the Waterboy, we wanted that he had a very protective mama. And that, and that, there was this movie Carrie. It was a terrifying movie, and it was an overprotective mom who didn't want her daughter to be around anything too heavy. And anyways, so we kind of wrote a mom like that that's overprotective to Bobby, and so he had to sneak around and play his foosball and shit. It's so good, man.

That's right. 92% is please welcome Mr. Ben Affleck. What's on? We heard that you once got to run routes with Tom Brady. all right what was it like what was that like did you how many completions did we get what were you running what kind of routes are you running i won't lie i don't know if they have a name i'm sure i disgraced every receiver that's ever running a route but to this day aside from the birth of my children that was the greatest i was like dude are you he was like i need someone

to play catch with happen to be on vacation at the same place with him and he was like you want to come down and I was like oh this was so this was legit this was as legit as it gets that's amazing you were helping Tom get ready for the season like how much I was helping him I think he was like he was like I'm gonna fucking blow this dude's and we literally got down there and first he's like you know I'm gonna he's like okay go out here turn around and I'm like Lauren running fast as I can turn around I think so look at looking he's waiting 45 minutes you know fucking guns the ball me I'm like I caught it because I was afraid of breaking my nose more than anything else.

And then after a few of those, he's like, all right, I'll put some hair on. I was like, no, no, no, it's already, it's already playing fast. Yeah. That was what I was about to ask you. That's how I was about to ask you. Did he actually spin it? Like, he ripped you a couple? Is he going to home him now?

You know, what I found was that, like, in a way, you catch it out of self-defense. I didn't even think I was too, you know, and I found myself with the football just, like, yes. Fight or Fleexes, but the greatest moment of that. experience was he was like, after we had me running around, you know, he's throwing me the ball and it was amazing, right? It was like a, like I felt like a 10-year-old kid. He's like, okay, come here. And I get to him and he's like, it's the Super Bowl, fourth quarter. We have 23 seconds. It's fourth and 18. I love this. Tom knows what he's doing, man.

I was like, oh, and he's like, you just run. This is, this is why he's the best. This is why he's the best. This is his mindset, dude. It was amazing, dude. He goes, and just run straight. Don't turn around. And I was like, he's like, I'm going to get you the ball in the end zone. And I was like, don't turn around. He was like, don't look back.

So I'm like, and I believe, he told me, I was like, I'm in the Super Bowl. So he's like, look, look, calls it out. You know, like, he was, and I start running. I don't look back. I'm sure to him it seemed like this. He's like, I never seen somebody running slow motion. You know, like, to me, I was going to as fast as you can go.

And I'm like wondering, when's this ball going to show up? And I look, I just feel like right out in front of me. And it was a little far for me. I think he was like, you probably adjusted back. And I reach out. And I have to go all that to extend, I fucking catch that. Turn around like I won the fucking two. It was running out

I'd be like this. It was incredible. I called everybody I knew. For two days, I was on the... So, that's right to call me, and I went down to God to me. I think they thought I was lying to him. But it was like the nicest thing

anyone's ever done for me, and I lived a full life of dreams, right, in that, whatever, it was, an hour of playing cash. You had a real-life sandlot moment. You were smalls. Dude, what I don't know. Just put that glove up there, boy.

I'm going to get it to you in the end zone. I mean, and it's like it felt like this is exactly what he looks like when it really is the Super Bowl, you know what I mean? Like, and he's one of those guys going back to the thing. I think I've often wondered because he seems so relaxed, like oddly relaxed. I've often wondered if that's part of it. Like just not, you know, when everyone else has that anxiety

because it's, you know, whatever 26 is to go in the fourth quarter, if you can have that, like, calm and that awareness, I think it's a huge, huge advantage. There's a story, I don't know if it's true about Joe Montana, that the Super Bowl threw the cash in the white Clark. The play before that, he got into the huddle, and he was looking into the stands, and the team came back, and they were like, what?

And he goes, you look over there. Is that John Candy? No. And they're not going to be candy. And they just, like, turn back up. But he was, like, looking over. to be like, oh, shit, that's John Cady. All right, fuck it, let's go.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, he was, he was just casual, and I feel like that always made sense. If you've ever met Joe Montana, that's a smooth son of a buck right there. He's a cool cad man. He's a laid-back dude. I believe it. Making his new heights debut, please welcome. It's the one and only little Dickie, baby.

Yes, sir. What is your welcome to the industry moment? Another story I've never told that just came into my head that's perfect for this moment. Oh my gosh. Celebrity basketball game. Ooh. Where? I don't know where it was a need to know more.

Somewhere in L.A. and much earlier in my career than I deserved to be. Like, when I looked at the lineup, it was like, it was like Floyd Mayweather, Snoop Dog, Chris Brown, like John Wall. It was like stacked. And I had no mainstream. I had like a couple of viral. I don't know how I got in the game to the point where I actually put a lot of stock and import in this game

this game that I got there an hour early to warm up because I literally thought like a way that I could like get ahead in this like industry faster will be like scoring 30 points in this game and really dumb. It's like I literally went there because I was like this is a big opportunity. This is my chance. To like advance my career. This is my chance. And I am a good. If I can somehow dunk on Snoop Dog. And I've seen so many celebrity games where I'm like, these guys suck, you know. And so I was excited to go there and really, you know, and a few things happened. One, I'm warming up by myself and Chris Brown walks in. He can move.

First time I ever saw Chris Brown. And so I'm like blown away by like just seeing him. He walks right up to me and he goes, you're a dope rapper. And I was like, and it was so early Mike, I would never expect him to know who I am. And like to have like an icon in the music industry who has like countless like number. It's just like him saying that to me meant everything. That was the impetus of Freaky Friday us meeting there. That's step one.

That's like the least important part of the story. Then we play in the game. game starts, I'm not in the starting line up, nowhere close. It's like, you know, it's the people I named. My coach is John Wall. The way he, the way he, well, not actually. Because the way John Wall went about operating his team was he, he did five in, five out. So he had starting five, then he just. So complete subs. Yeah. So I'm in the next five. He says, he tells me, grab Chris, like Chris Brown. Oh, no. So I go up to. By the way, every time Chris Brown touches the ball in this game,

no, it's just like, ah, it's just like, screen. It's like, it's bizarre. Like, people go nuts. Like, every time he hears the ball, it's like, you know, when people boo in Philly when they come back, like when Hardin gets the ball. It was like the opposite of that. So I'm told to get Chris Brown. So I walk up to Chris and I go like, yo, I'm in for you.

And he goes, I'm not coming out. Oh, that's awkward. And then there's 11 guys on the court. everyone is like matched like I'm clearly the odd I look to John Waugh can you help like coach like and he goes John Wall goes like brings me back over first thing I say is like John like get a grip and like have some like authority on your team it's just like humiliating to like send me out there and then pull me back in it's like so emasculating it's so good and and and then they're playing and then I get in like the next

five or whatever. I get in the game. I get in the game. I get the ball. I drive aggressively. I go up. I get to the rim. I get fouled so hard by Deonté Wilder that at the time heavyweight champion of the world. Dude, like everyone went like, like everyone like the whole gym went like because I thought like I really got hurt. I didn't hurt that. I think the, I don't know, it didn't really hurt that much. I took it. In the moment. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I get up. I miss two free throws. and then I play one more meaningless minute. And then I just didn't even, I like moved to the end of the bench and just chose not to even make myself available

for the rest of the game. But that was a real, like there was like several different moments in there that felt like, like, welcome to the industry. That was like the first time I think I ever like was on like giddy images. You know what I mean? When it was like watermarked images of like me talking to Snoop. So good. Yeah.

Please welcome Bill Murray. Thank you. Who's your favorite, I don't know, actor or person you've worked with in the film industry? You did Space Jam with Michael Jordan? Well, he was probably the best shooting guard that I worked. Larry the best small forward. Actually, Larry was the best. He was in that movie, too.

He was the best small forward. So good. Yeah, that was fun. That was a very fun movie. We got to, we shot, we play golf in between scenes. It was a lot of fun. I don't want to get too much into Space Jam, but it is one of the childhood favorites of ours and so many others, man. How did, how did Space Jam come into play for you?

Were you just like, because you were so in the sports world as well, like your fandom and your, your ability to kind of dive into all these sports? Did that play into getting the roller? So I knew Ivan Reitman, who I'd made a couple of movies with the Reddy, Ghostbusters and Stripes and Meatballs. He was a producer on it. He was a Warner Brothers movie, I think. And they had to build a basketball court for Michael on the line. And they built like a serious basketball court with a wait room. And it was like the game.

Like if you were an American basketball player, you had to suck your way into that game every night. And Michael would play after work. when they were on location or on the set on in the studio and it was like a real serious wood floor gym and the whole deal and that was a real like every if you no matter what team you played for you had to get into that game because that was who was who and who wasn't that's so cool but they i don't know i just like to say that about nine people said you know michael really wants you to be in space jam which is like i get a kick i say this all the time i think pimp michael all the time whatever i can But Michael really wants to be in space jam.

And all you have to do is not. That's all you got to do is not. Because it just means, you know, I bet you Mike can find my phone number. Yeah, right. I bet you if he sets his mind to it, he could find my phone number. Or he could find out where I live or even, you know, walk up on the street. It's not a hard man to find. But basically, I know there are people like that in the world and you'll meet them.

And that they feel like they never want to be indebted to anybody for anything. They don't want to know anybody anything. So they'll have their people sort of ask something. Have you ever noticed this? Yes, of course. So they'll have someone else asked for you. Yeah. So I knew exactly, day one, I knew exactly what was coming here.

I heard it from everybody. I probably heard from like 13 different people. And the more people, the more I enjoyed it because I knew is like, that son of a bitch is just twisting, knowing he's got to ask me himself. But it was good. He finally he did. God bless him. And it turned out. The golf course?

Where did he find you? I don't really remember. I don't really remember. But it was good. I was glad I was there. And I contributed to that movie. You had to have gotten in at least one of the games. Oh, no.

No. No. I mean, I don't think I, I may have just only shot a basket before the game. That game was like, I mean, they were emptying prisons to get into that game. They would never be allowed to play in the NBA that were playing in that game. There were just some amazing athletes in that game. And like the best high school players that try to show up there and they just, Michael just kicked their ass.

Oh, I love it. People would come in there and think of that game and Michael just murder him. He was a killer. So we recently reviewed Roadhouse, the original Patrick Shwayze film. Yes. There is a legend out there that you used to call the husband of Kelly Lerner, Lynch, who plays Dr. Clay, anytime a particular scene came on with Patrick Swayze on the television. Is this rumor true?

One of the hardest things I ever had to do was to call a friend. And at a late hour, I mean, very, very, and not without some talk, some back, some back and not without some back and forth, some back and forth, should I, shouldn't, I, shouldn't I? And as a friend, I did not, I did not identify myself, but I just, say, hey, as a friend, I think she'd probably turn on TBS right now. Oh, God. Because that son of a bitch, Pat Swayze is... Slam him to your wife. I don't know.

Oh, my gosh. Swayze, may he rest and paste. There are a lot of wonderful things, a beloved guy, but that was wrong what he did. Dude, this is why you're the legend. God, that's so good. That's right. Thank you for this gold man.

Ah, he said, he's wrong. It's wrong. It's the goddamn Terminator! That's right. We got Arnold Schwarzenegger. Woo! Wow. Fire up, baby.

Wow. That was fantastic. Yes, God. As long as Artie approves. I can't believe if that's the baby oil. I need some. He's supposed to be oiled up and you introduced me. That's right.

That was great. That was really fantastic. I love the grandkids. I mean, she brings them over on the weekends on Saturday. Yeah. And then, you know, I have, of course, the animals. Oh, yeah. The dog is for me with your granddaddy, right?

So I say, I say, kids, you want to help me feed the animals? I said, let's go and feed Schnelly, which is my pig. And the pig is now, I got it at the pig when it was like 16 pounds. Now it's like 100 pounds. I mean, I don't know what happened. But I think someone fed it. So now they're feeding every Saturday.

It's the power of them. So now they're feeding Schnelli and they teach them how to put it in its mouth and all of those kind of things. Then they go into the stall with me and they bring out the miniature donkey, Lulu and Whiskey, the miniature pony. And then they feed them and they bring apprais over

and feed them in order to. How did you get into owning a miniature pony? Well, it's, it's, Heather gave you to me. The miniature pony. Oh, you, Heather? Right, Heather? Yeah.

And the pony is actually Catherine's, but the donkey, Heather gave me. Okay. And so what happened was Catherine had this pony. And then all of a sudden, when she started getting interested in boys, all of a sudden, the animals were out. Yeah. She didn't pay any attention. So I saw this pony down at the stall below where I live.

some public stall and there would be other horses and miniature horses and stuff like that and so I said I'm going to bring it up to my house because it's stupid I have this miniature pony down there and doesn't get any attention I want to just have it walk around

in the house, come into the house and stuff like that. So that's what I did. I had this pony and it walked around the house and I fed it and it was always fun and then Heather said she needs a companion. So then Heather got me the, you know, the miniature donkey. And so now I have, you know, Lulu and Whiskey. So the whiskey is the pony and the donkey is Lulu. And so they, but the question

really, so when you should see that, when they all come in in the morning, I mean, it's like the donkey is in there, the pony is in there, the pig is in there begging for food. The three dogs are in there. everyone is sitting there on the floor and is waiting for the cookies because we're making this oatmeal cookies that have no sugar in it. It's just like honey and some some, you know, oatmeal

is in there and a few things like that. So, I'd be waiting on those things too. And so we feed this, the animals, they just sit there and they do anything you ask them to do if they get a cookie. You already have with food. As you know, with animals with food,

you can really kind of like. It's the number one right there. Yeah, make them do anything. So anyway, when Catherine comes over with her kids, and they play with the animals, like, for hours, they just love it. They just love it. Can they pick up cherries, which is the little dog that I have?

And so then Lylew picks up cherry, and then El-Louise picks up cherry. And then I want the whole cherry. Can I sit on a donkey? Yeah, of course you can sit on Lulu. Then I put down Lulu, and this is how it goes. They're having a great time. That sounds like you know to talk about it, man.

You could tell it's fun. All right, last question. If you were to reboot one of your movies and cast each of us in a role, what movie and who do you think we'd play? Oh, I would definitely do Conan, the barbarian. Imagine how real this is. I mean, you don't have to change anything.

All you have to do is go on a... Go on a... No, you can't put a wig on it. Wait, Harold, that was a wig? But there was a partial week. Oh, okay. Yeah, partial week. But, I mean, the thing is that they had also had short hairs,

short hair in those days. You don't have to do the long hair thing. But, I mean, that would be fantastic. All you have to do is just learn how the horseback ride, and maybe you guys know how to horseback ride. I've been bucked off every horse I've ever been on. Because that is the key thing is to really get good in horseback riding. Okay.

Because, you know, when you do the sword fighting on the horse, You cannot pay much attention to the horse. The horse goes around the circle and does it thing, but you have to pay attention to the sword not to get whacked. So I mean, so that's the thing. So I think if you take sword fighting lessons, I took three years, sword fighting lessons in three years,

horseback riding lessons, and with all kinds of weaponry and the martial arts and all this stuff, and it really was helpful to be that prepared when I did a movie. But that's the key thing. So if you do that, I mean, imagine you guys That's it.

With the armor. Just three years. With the big hammer. And the big battles and all that stuff. Oh, and riding there into the village. Just wiping out everyone. Crush your enemies. See it and live in before you and hear the lamentation of their women.

Yeah. He's a two-time winner of people's sexiest man. He's robbed probably about 50 times. Brad Pitt! That's right, baby! I love the Eagles Chiefs rivalry. You know I'm a Chiefs. I'm a Missouri boy.

I'm going to Ozarkia. Yeah. Hey, we got you this year, dog. We got you this year, man. Yeah, we don't. I let you down. I'll let you down. No, we're trying to see it.

Like, that's what I mean about life, you know? Life throws these struggles your way. Sometimes everything's falling into place and, and everything goes quiet and it's, and it's perfection and it's sublime in other days or other periods, life throws these struggles at you. And it's how you deal with those and come back from those, I think, that are what makes sports movies so special. But I do have a, I do have a confession. You know, I'm friends with Bradley Cooper. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's your, he's your prime Eagles fan. That's right. And I'm not

saying that I have the power to, um, affect a game in any way. I don't, I don't adhere to that kind of hubris. But I did say last year after the Eagles went out, chiefs were on their way to another victory and he was getting award for the maestro still probably one of the best movies in this decade and i was giving him this award and he's been nominated like 18 times for oscars and i closed with now did you guys hear this one no no no no dude i'm back there at the santa barbara film awards i closed with listen he's been nominated the 19th hundred time you know if he doesn't get it it's okay he's used to it, he's a Philadelphia Eagles fan.

That laid the groundwork right there. I think he was happy this year. No doubt. Oh, you already know. We didn't talk for two months. Did he hit you up about it? Did he, after the streetball? Did he say he did he gracefully let me hurt, hurt in my time?

It's a pro movie. He just let it sit there and burn, yeah. That's too funny, man. You're known for constantly eating on the screen. Best food you've ever ate on camera. Damn, I don't know how I get this. Like, people eat in life. Yeah, right.

Like, I think it was in oceans, and I figure, he's always waiting around. He's, like, the consigli area of the group, and he's always doing this and doing this, and he's got to eat on the run. That's all this, that's where this came from. It was, like, thought behind it. That's too funny. And now, any time I eat in a film, I'm like, I guess I'm a bit of a grazer, but yes, okay, so that's my mind. Everything I've done, that's what I'm known for.

The best thing, I had an ice cream Sunday. I remember an ice cream Sunday, a big parfe thing on. I'll tell you a story. I haven't thought about this for years. One of my first movies, I'm doing this little independent film. We're shooting in this little tiny cafe. It's full of the crew, so there's about 60 people in there. It's hot.

You can't breathe. And my character hadn't eaten for days, and he gets his big plate of beans. first plate of beans and bacon and I was all like method you know I was like do this right I'm gonna I'm gonna and I just and I pow you know I just powered down

this plate of beans take two do the same thing take three I do the same thing I do the same thing something hit me oh I know exactly what hit you it was true and there was nothing I could do I was stuck in this chair

and nature took its course and then there was nothing I went oh great I got away I got away with that one and then suddenly the entire crew the most diabolical something something descended on the crew in the whole room and they fleed the cafe fleed so so hey question you've heard first right here hey that's great and And ever since then, I've paced myself. Beads to do it to you, baby. That's right. You should be proud of you.

Hey, you clear a room. You clear a wound. That's a. From an offensive lineman. You already know, that's a badge of honor. We had, oh my gosh, green, all-time sack leader, one of the up there with the Steelers for a long time. And then he was coaching the Packers, Kevin Gritt. And he came in, he was coaching the D-line.

He came into the O-Line room to try and get. give us tips on how to block D. Lyman. He came in there for him. Guys are farting, not stuff. And he was like, you guys are. The old linemen suck. I'm out of here. He just left the room. It was like two fighters.

We ask athletes this question all the time, but what was your welcome to Hollywood moment? Welcome to Hollywood moment. Okay. I'll tell you my welcome to Hollywood moment. I was, I got my first little thing. It was on a, like a little soap opera. And they, and my picture. was in a, like USA Today.

Okay. And this was a big deal sent to my mom and dad. Look, you know, look, ma, I made it. And it was with a friend. There was a girl he was really attracted to, a couple of girls. And we went over to their apartment. And we went through the kitchen, the back door. And I looked down the litter box.

And there was that picture with a big cat turd on it. Oh. Big picture, dame, cat turdard on it. That sounds it up. That's right there. Welcome to Hollywood. And I've never forgotten that. Hey, 92%ers.

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Bo, Bo, Bo, Bo, Bo, Bo, Spade. Spade. The executive producer and director of Apple TV's hit show Severance, please welcome to New Heights, Mr. Ben Stiller. Let's go. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to talk about your first bit of cinematic excellence,

which maybe it's not, but it's definitely the one that sticks with us emotes and we quote nonstop with just heavyweights. Yeah. Did you know, first of all, before I said the movie, did you know I was gonna say heavy weights? I had seen, I think I saw you had like a Percas Power show. Oh yeah.

Yeah. And I'd heard some, you know, rumblings that you guys were into it, which was pretty cool. Oh, into it. It was my life. It was, listen, I was a heavyweight growing up. Jason, he didn't get fat until he went to office line. We switch places. We switched places growing up.

So Jason's more newly founded into it. So seriously, you were dealing with weight. issues. I think, you're chubby. I think I was just, yeah, I was dealing with my love for honey buns. I think that's what I was kind of dealing with more. But no, I saw heavyweights and was like, oh, man, Camp Hope is like, if there's a camp out there like that, I want to go to it, just kids that can be fat together and hide candy

in their beds and, you know, you know, the kids that never like really lived up to the excellence of their brother and just the expectations that their parents have for themselves. Yeah, yeah. Are you kid the blob? Was it a go card? Yeah, yeah. Like that was everything a kid wanted to do it. It was sort of, yeah, like a dream camp, but then, you know, this guy comes in who's never really dealt with children before.

Yeah. That's one of the funniest intros. It was really fun to do. We had a great time. I mean, I remember the summer shooting the movie very well. We shot it down in near Asheville, North Carolina. Okay. I'm still buddies with the guy who was my trainer when I was doing the movie.

The movie, Mickey Marino, shout out to Mickey, who's down in East Hendersonville. Yeah, it was just, but like, yeah, today, first of all, the fact that that was a Disney movie. Is it is? It is kind of crazy. Yeah. That was. I chuckle at it every time I see Disney across the top. Yeah.

It's an edgy Disney movie for sure. It's not Little Mermaid. And I don't even think they were aware of it at the time. It was a different time, right? It was pre-social media. It was, I think there was. less of a sort of a moment-to-moment awareness of, you know, if you're doing something right or wrong and all that. So it was, you know, and Judd Apatow and was producing it. Judd and I were

friends and had been working together on a show we had done and had gotten canceled. And I had gone and directed a movie, my first movie. And he said, hey, we're going to go down. Steve Brill's the director, really funny guy. We're going to go down to Asheville and do this fun, you know, this camp company, you could play this like mean guy who, you know, was mean to these kids who are overweight. And it seemed fun and funny. In, I'm in. Yeah, no, it's right there.

And it was like, and it happens to be Disney, whatever. And I think they went off and they made the movie and Disney looked at it and was like, this isn't quite, you know, this fits the down the middle for the Disney brand. And they kind of put it out there or whatever. And then that was it. You must have seen it on video, right? Oh, 100%. A few years after it came out or something, right?

Because it's 30 years old. Exactly. Yeah. But then it's had this life. I saw it later in the 90s for sure. But yeah, never would have gotten made today. Why do you say that? I think just because the characters being so mean to these kids who are dealing with weight issues that I don't think.

But don't you think that's getting off the drawing board. I understand. But I feel like the movie also inspired more people that were overweight. Like it really ends up being something that most of the people that I knew that were overweight or it was like a healthy relationship with that at the end of the day. should put that at the end of the day. I do agree that Tony was not the nicest to the kids. No, well, I think Tony is dealing with his own weight issues. Oh, for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. And, um, and his own feelings towards his parents and also that he's a kid who never, he never interacted with other kids. And, you know, he wants to be famous. And, you know, I feel for Tony. I feel like he's the most sympathetic character. I was like, where did he, where did Tony come, like, where did you find him?

Is there any inspiration? There was a little bit of Tony Robbins in there. Okay. Tony Rob is the motivational guy, just in terms of the voice and how he talks and his kind of weird sort of like, he, you know, Tony Robbins had this thing where he could sort of like, yeah, he could kind of like hypnotize you with his eyes. And I don't know, man. And then we just sort of like played around and it's funny, like, because I look back at clips, I saw a clip like behind the scenes on it. And I was like, God, we were so young back then too, just like kind of just doing it. You know what I mean?

And just kind of going for it. And you don't really think about it that much. And the kids were so much fun and it was, you know, kind of like every day we're just, and my folks were in it playing my parents. That's so cool, man. We had, we had just had the best time. Somebody signed your checks. Oh yeah, don't let it.

Best advice I ever got. So I guess how much of that movie was, of Tony was being scripted and how much of that is you off the cuff? Just riffing it. Yeah. I don't remember. I think like we were, we were improvising all the time. it's sort of i feel like there were some improv moments there uh i think like that little moment

where uh tony goes and talks to himself what he's weighing the kids so he brought this up it's my favorite scene of the movie he's asking this question how you do are you i do it well everything's falling down around me there's nothing i can do about i'm sorry i don't want to do your birthday but yeah everything's falling down around me there's nothing i can do about it well you know uh whose fault is uh it's my it's not my it's not my fault. It's their fault. That's right. It's their fault. You have failed. Yeah. The thing that's kind of funny to me about that scene is it was, it was improvised. But you know, if you've ever been in therapy or gone to therapy, that's, you know, a lot of people talk about talking to your

inner child, you know, and finding your inner child. And over the years, I have been in a therapy session where the therapist says, like, you should go, like, let's talk to your inner child. And I literally feel like I'm just doing a scene from heavyways in England therapy. So I always feel like it's just, this is kind of silly because I've literally done this in a movie where it actually made sense that Tony was able to talk himself into understanding that he is not the problem. They are the problem. And he helped himself. So in a way, it's a very healthy connection that he's having, you know, with himself. 100%.

With himself. Maybe not with the kids. Yeah. No. And I think, you know, the kids also like, you know, let's face it, the kids. were cheating. They should have been following the rules. Right? It's an interesting way to re-evaluate this movie. They were the problem. They were the ones hiding candy and not hustling. If you go to a camp where you want to lose weight, you got to play by the rules, right? It's like, if you guys show up

a training camp, right? If you're not going to put the work in, right? Nobody's going to be able to force you to do it, right? You got to have the mindset. Yeah, I'd definitely go to Chick-fil-A during camp, though. I'm not going to hold that. Ninety-two percent of strength to take himself will fail is here. Yeah, my God! So epic. Best intro. Best intro ever. Best intro ever.

I've been just so curious about this. When did you become a DJ? The video of you DJing at the frat party might be one of my faith. You've now inspired me to want to become a DJ and do exactly what. You made that shit look so fucking fun. I don't know if you want to. I don't know if you want to. a real peak behind the curtain or not.

But I don't know how to DJ. I was just all set up by my son. And he was like, dad, can you come? It's parents weekend. Can you come by the fraternity house? And I'll just set it up. And you just have to twist knobs and pretend to like to push buttons. So I just acted the part.

But I do not. No, look at it. That's insane. That's insane. I still I still forget that people have cameras attached to their phones. I don't know if you guys ever feel that way, but I'm like, I still sometimes, I'm like, The fact that you could just turn that switch off, though, man, not care about it, that's the best, that's the best part. And that was, that made, I sent that to everybody that I knew.

I showed up for 15 minutes and then I went to the football game. I didn't think twice about it. And then Monday, it like blows up. And I'm thinking, what? Wait, what? Oh, right. All these kids were filming it. Anyway. So good. It's just, it's fun to just kind of, I just love kind of doing those kind of out of the box things just to just to mingle with people. And, and, uh, well, we love when you do it too, big dog. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Thank you. So something we do on the show is answer voicemails from our fans. And we've asked them to call in asking for relationship advice because who doesn't want to hear relationship advice from a couple of knuckleheads. Would you like to help us on these?

Oh, sure. You want a job, Ben? Let's do it, man. Here's the thing. You could answer some of these questions as one of your characters, maybe. Okay. Nice. Yes.

Oh, I'm so excited. Brandon. Brandon. Uh-oh, Brandon. Hey, Travis. Hey, Jason. Big Chief Sand, I'm going. Just wanted to know your advice for a first date when you should know those red flags and when to look for the green flags.

Go teeth. Red flags, green flags. When to look for the red flags, when to look for the green flags? Oh, that's... Let's see. Ricky Bobby would say, look, I don't know anything about red flag or green flag. You just got to get yourself into a position to look for the checkered flag. because, I mean, there's only one thing you need to worry about because, I mean, if you ain't

first, you're last. Yeah, baby. I would just tell that young lady to look for the checker flag. You got to find your way to the finish line, guys. I don't know if that's good advice or bad. It sounds like bad advice. I think it's kind of metaphorically, it makes sense. You got to find your way to the finish line.

Yeah. You know? I loved it, man. That shit was fucking gold. That was so good. So good. That could have gone any better. All right.

Here we go. Next one. What we got? All right. Jason and Travis. So what do I do? Whenever I bought this girl tickets to a concert for Christmas. And she dumped me the week before.

Now her best friend wants to go with me. Do I take her or no? Do you take the best friend after the tickets you bought for your girlfriend? she dumped you wait i want to make sure i understand do you take the best friend of the girl yes after yes so so the girlfriend dumped him and now the best friend wants to go with well ron bergity would say of course you take the best friend because you teach that young lady a lesson you're not going to be some horse's ass you've spent 1200 dollars going to I don't know, whatever

concert, whatever music you listen to nowadays, I don't know if it's Kaja Gugu or Duran Duran or whatever it is. But you send a signal to that young lady that you're not messing around.

And then you grew more, Ron. You take photos of you and the best friend making out and send it back to the old girlfriend and say, that's how I do it.

That's how you roll right there, baby. That was fucking gold, man. So good. That's why you're the greatest of all time, dude. Oh, my goodness. Miss Necy and that house. When you were with Mama Kels, was that your first Chiefs game you'd ever been to?

Very first. But, wait, no. Let me take that lie back. Because I saw y'all play against each other. You were at the Super Bowl? I was at that game. Oh, the Super Bowl. Yeah.

I saw you guys play against. each other. Matter of fact, I had to hook up that chair, so I walked out on the field. Oh, right now. I walked out on the field. Uh-huh. And my sister told me, she said, I don't care what you do.

You put on an all-green outfit and you represent me. And so... So you were Eagles? I had on my green sweatsuit. Ooh! I was up there doing this. Why? Eagles, why?

I had my green sweatsuit on. me, J.B., my son, we all showed up. Yeah. And, yeah, so I got to see you both play together in that game. And then we go to the game. Maybe I've done some roles, and I'm like, God, I wish it would go away. But then we all came to see Travis. And let me tell you something.

Travis, so we go to the game, right, out here in L.A. And he was just trying to act like he was so professional as a football player. He's like, you know, I don't know if, you know, I'm, you know, if we're going to take pitches and stuff because I'm so focused. I'm like, okay. Then he came out there with that stupid mustache. He's trying to act like, he can't out there with that stupid mustache trying to, you know, he was all on the field.

And all his boys were. like, yo, there go you a girl right there. They go your girl right there. He's going to look over. He was like, I said it. You know what? I respect your process. I'm just giving you a heart.

I love it. I love it too. It's so good. I totally respect your process. You know what I mean? I appreciate it. You got to stay in the zone. And you got to do with the people who paying you want you to do.

So I'm not tripping about that. I was more offended at the Mustang. It's gone. It's gone now. I see, you finally back to looking decent. Exactly, exactly. That was, I was, you never know. I might have just been, you know, having that look for another role or something, you know?

Oh, okay. Okay. Hollywood over here. All right. So when you were at the game with Mom, what was it like? Yeah, you saw Mama Kelce at the game, too. Do you like watching football games? I do.

It was so much fun. She was loving. She had her home girl with her. And we all took pitches together. And then, you know, you run with a great group of guys, you know, the guys. I appreciate that. And they all came and checked on us. You good.

You need this. You need that. Then we went over to your podcast at a suite. Oh, nice. We got our podcast swag. Oh, nice. From over there. They treated you right?

Oh, yeah, everybody treated us. So that was Mama Kelsey. She said, we're going over to the, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. You're part of the family. She went over there with her, yes, and got us some swag and all the good things.

So everybody really took such good care of us. We had great seats. Thank you. Oh, always. You know it. You know I had to hook it up. Yeah, it was a really good time. I mean, I would do it again, for sure.

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Yeah, baby. We already talked about you playing basketball. We talked about S&L and hosts and stuff. Who's better in their respect? fields. Are you better as a basketball player or is LeBron better as an S&L host? Wow. You play you both played you played in the all-star game with him. He played on S&L with you. Yeah. Look, as an S&L host, he's a hell of a basketball player. Yeah, bra. No, I love that dude. I mean, we need to the test. We need you and LeBron one-on-one on the basketball court and then we need you one-on-one on the SNL stage.

Improred stage. There's a sketch where we did a characters that Bill and I did a couple times where I play like a stage hand who is just kind of a dick to people. We did it to Julie Louis Dreyfus. We did it with Paul Rudd and we did with LeBron. And I challenged him to one-on-one in the sketch. And in rehearsal, in rehearsal, I did go by him and then went up and he didn't know I was going to go do a reverse layup. And I did score on him on an eight-foot goal. And he was actually trying to like he was.

Oh, yeah. He was 100-0. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was definitely trying. He can't turn that off. He can't turn that off. He can't turn that off. No, no.

It's like it's a different. And it was funny because Don Roy King, who is our director at the time who I just saw at the 50th, came up and literally brought it up. He goes, he goes, if you ever need someone to like, you know, vouch for this. I did. I know it happened. I was like, thank you. So here it is. It kind of sucks to be the one telling the, this, you know, keeping this apocryphal story alive.

You know, I'd prefer it to be someone else, but so be it. Well, now you have us two, knucklehead too. Exactly. Yeah, we'll keep spreading this. We'll spread it. We'll spread it. We'll get to catch some legs. He was, I mean, he went for it.

I can't believe he hadn't come back to do it again. He was so good, man. He was so good. The solid old dancer? Come on. Come on now. It was great. And Maverick, badass.

I remember Maverick sitting at the host dinner on Tuesday. Now you know when you go out with Lauren and everything. Maverick sat next to Lauren and just was just grilling him the whole time. The whole time? And I was like, I remember sitting across from him. I was a child. Yeah. And like a baby seed.

But he was asking about business. It was like, it was like, you know, Michael Corleone talking to Don Corleone. It was like fantastic. I was like, I was like, LeBron. You know, I didn't know who he was at that point. I was like, LeBron's so lucky to have this dude. This guy's got his buddies back like big time and asking Lauren these questions. And Lauren was so fascinated by it was, it was great.

It was just like watching, you know, an icon and an icon to be just kind of like, you know, just, yeah, it was just a curious, smart dude. Yeah, those guys good on him. You know it. Just a bunch of Cleveland guys. Yeah, that's all. Just making the way in the world today. How much would you have, would your life have changed if you would have been a sector into the Blumen Group? I had a hundred.

That's what? I don't know. I mean, everything, you know? Yeah. So, I mean, I was obsessed with that show. And I, like, I loved it. It was the opportunity that I felt. Oh, this would be the only chance I'll ever get to play music in front of people.

And I wasn't a good enough drummer I love the show I think it's so funny I think it's so brilliant And I think it's so like a subversive I mean it's all these things you know They just closed the show recently in New York Which is where I ended up

You know I audition in Vegas And they got flown out there right This was August of 2001 So this is right before 9-11 And it was And I had dudes, the buddies of mine That were in Blue Man group in Vegas Because they took a lot of our improv classes

So I got to know them Our shows hung out a lot, like both, you know, offstage and like, you know, at each other's houses. You know, I got it and, and it was, um, it was an amazing, amazing time because we were like this different kind of show. We, uh, that was sort of finding its way in, in Vegas, um, like the ones that interacted with the audience and not just, you know, show girls or, or again, icons, uh, or, or magic. It was like this, this weird kind of thing. I remember so many, a handful of them when I was really, it would sort of take me aside and be like, do you really want to do this? Like, like, you're really good at talking. Like, it's kind of your thing.

And I was like, yeah, no, I don't care. I want to do this. I think it's so neat. And yeah, but it would be, I mean, gosh, I wouldn't, I mean, I wouldn't have my kids. I wouldn't, you know, there's a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah. I'd be different. I'd be, every time I blow my nose, blue stuff would come out.

My eye boogers would be blue. You know, like, yeah. Who knows? I'd be a much better drummer than I am. You know, my rudiments would be solid, but. Well, did you have to paint yourself for the audition? Mm-hmm. Not for the, for, for, when you, when they flew like that.

gotta be a pick I wish we there's gotta there's no way there isn't and here you dressed up like that and didn't get a pick I know when you wear when you wear all the same color like all my iPhone so there's pre iPhone yeah we had a disposal camera because we when you they put you up in this like dorm it was on like 13th Street and it was all these like like like you know all of us were like six foot one white guys and and and majority of it like If there was 10 of us, I would say nine of them were, you know, musicians first or eight of them were musicians first. And I was more of an actor with like, like, and I had been literally practicing on like a drum pad during intermissions at my second city show, in between shows, driving my castmates crazy, I'm sure. And yet everybody had this like fun spirit.

And we're all in New York flying in from other places. And we, I remember we bought a disposable camera because we got bald and blue, as they said. Yeah, yeah. bald cap and the and the whole thing and the the cobalt blue and and so somewhere I don't know what happened to that is disposable camera because you got cut like after three days five days seven days I imagine it's like you know being in a combine or like in a camp American Idol it really was yeah and I got cut after three days and they were they were like if he he could be a blue man if he worked on his drumming and then I go home kind of defeated and then you know a few weeks you know later you know 9-11 and then it was like then that sort of like rattled us all and like okay what do you love what do you what do you really want to do and it was stick with second city at that point and so So I never, never auditioned again. But, but there's, yeah, there's a camera out there. But I know when I saw myself in the mirror, I looked at myself and no bullshit. I'm not even, this isn't even like humility.

I was like, I look like a blue peanut Eminem. You couldn't see my cheekbones. You couldn't like my feature, any features that I have on my face just got washed out. And I just looked like a, like all the dudes that I was friends with all look like male models. And I was like, oh, I think maybe this, I thought that if I wore this, I'd look as cool as they do. It's like, no, Jase, they look like that out of the makeup. I look, it looked like an upside down blue peanut in a minute. That's horrible.

So, yeah. He's an eight-time sports Emmy nominee and the voice of the first two days of the Masters. Please welcome Mr. Scott Van Pelt. Yeah, baby. Thank you. You tweeted this at the New Heights account. Please elaborate. How close did you or Mark Schlerath come to shitting your pants on air?

Okay. So, all right, let's just say, Mark Schlerth, shout to stink, my guy, I taught him how to tie his tie and, like, it should have been a sports center commercial. I taught him how to get that great dimple in the middle of his tie. And to this day, we love laughing about that. But this was a story. Show me a man who says, he has shit his pants. I'll show you a liar. Has it happened on air?

I explained Mark Schlaerth is familiar with it. So there was a day where I was having a rough day. Had a little bubble, a little gurgle in the belly, a little bad tummy. Yeah. And I'm said to Stink, buddy, there's a decent chance that while we're sitting out here, I might ship my pants. And Stink says to me, it's fine, it's fine. You just need to put some leaves in the gutter.

I'm like, excuse me? What? You don't know leaves in the gutter? I'm like, what's leaves in the gutter? It's like, you just take a big giant ball. a toilet paper and you ball it up and you put it in your ass crack and then while you're sitting there, you know, in your boxers, you just, you got, it's basically like a like a diaper of sorts because because I wasn't going to full on shit my pants. There's going to be just a short kind of a moment. Just

that, is this a fart? Oh, it's hot. No, that wasn't a fart. And so I had leaves in the gutter and then that night, this gets better. We were doing, he's there to do analysis on. say the Thursday night game. For argument's sake, it's the Steelers and the Bengals. I don't remember. But I say it because a lot of what we do are inside jokes. I said, you know, Stink tonight, the Steelers' defense, man, they really, they bottled up that run for the Bengals like leaves in the gutter.

And Stink barely can get through the segment because I'm talking about the bald up toilet paper in my butt crack that he's sharing me. And I'm happy to say I did not need the leaves in the gutter. But fellas, maybe ladies, when in doubt, if you need to go leaves in the gutter, there's a pro tip from Mark Schleriff to me, to you. That's the story of how Scott Van Pelt almost shit his pants on TV. All right. And that wraps up the best episodes of New Heights.

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