New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Chiefs' First Win, Thiccest Sixes and Leonardo DiCaprio & Benicio del Toro's First Podcast | Ep 156

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Keep you cool. They're here. Keep your cool. I can. I'm super excited. This is fucking so badass. Play it cool. Play it cool, guys.

Starting point is 00:00:39 Leo and Benicio. Let's go. And what's up, Travis? What's up, Jason? How are you guys doing, man? It's an honor of being interviewed by you guys. Thank you. Our first podcast, fellas.

Starting point is 00:00:51 This is the first one? Oh, my gosh. We don't know what's going on. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Yeah. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a Wondry show brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cubs. God.

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Starting point is 00:01:39 I had New Heights show with 1S for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, yeah. Let's tell the people what we got coming up. We got a fun one, man. We have a really fun one. We got a coming off of two wins for this past week for the Kelsey Brothers. The Chiefs officially win against the New York Giants and the Big Apple.

Starting point is 00:01:59 Getting that monkey off the back. We'll also get into the real reason behind the birds come back. The rest of an insane week three and Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio del Toro are here. I don't know how the fuck we got these guys. Yeah, this is kind of crazy. I know. They're going to talk to this about. It's pretty crazy.

Starting point is 00:02:19 Oh, my God. Dude, we got to make this feel a little more professional. I don't know. There's anything we're going to be able to do to make this better. Actors, human beings, the best of what they do, do. we got a we got to lock in before we lock in let's get to some of that uh new news new news coming in hot new news new heights is now on prime video video customers in the united states can start streaming new heights today through the prime

Starting point is 00:02:46 video app on their favorite devices how about it man there's now another place you can watch new heights if you so choose um and quick update for our wondery plus subscribers we will still release the show totally ad-free on Wondery Plus, but now we're making all of our previously exclusive content like old film clubs, heights hotlines, yada, yada, available to everyone. So go check those out on whatever platform you prefer. And we also got some new news in Kansas City this Friday. Kansas City. The Kelsey Car Jam is back, baby.

Starting point is 00:03:18 That's this Friday? That is. It's this Friday, man. I'm going to break out the old school. I'm going to break out some new old schools that I got. We got a 1990. Jeep Wrangler with the wood grain on the side. Don't, baby, let's go.

Starting point is 00:03:31 Let's go, baby, let's go. I think was made in 1989, baby. That's a good year. 92%ers, we want to remind you guys that Kelsey Car Jam is this Friday. We'll have an amazing block party style event that showcases some of the city's top automobiles, including some of my personal. There will be food. There will be drinks.

Starting point is 00:03:49 There will be games and a whole lot of fun for everyone. There's only a few tickets left. So get yours now. Proceeds benefit. 87 and running, my foundation that helps out underserved youth in both the Kansas City area and back home in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, and just the Cleveland surrounding area, two cities that I absolutely fucking love. So please show up.

Starting point is 00:04:12 It's going to be a blast. It always is. And thank you for everybody. And the Foundation 87 running for putting this on. Every single year blows my mind. And I can't wait to see it this Friday when KC comes up and shows out, baby. No doubt. It's a fun one every year.

Starting point is 00:04:27 highly recommend it. Is Operation Breakthrough going to be there again? Oh, yeah, right? All the time. All the time. It'll be great. All right. Now, last bit of new news.

Starting point is 00:04:35 Jason got a new side quest. Jason. Travis. Are you working on your saxophone skills? It was the first time I played in a long time. It was a... I thought you fucking crushed it. And this is how I know you crushed it

Starting point is 00:04:52 because I didn't hear yours. Yeah. No, that's why it was good. And as long as you don't, either you were faking it or you were sounding good enough to where it didn't sound like a middle school orchestra where there was like that one fucking out of tune. Oh, I was definitely doing it. I was definitely doing it. You just couldn't hear it because it wasn't a loud enough instrument on its own. Dude, what an epic fucking song.

Starting point is 00:05:15 Are you kidding? Yeah. When they were like, we're going to do the Monday night countdown theme. I was like, all right. And I picked up the sax that morning. And I was like, all right, I got to see if I can play this thing. I haven't played this thing in forever. And the last time I tried, I just, like, couldn't even make a sound at, like, this music store.

Starting point is 00:05:32 I was, like, so bad. Yeah. And I picked it up, and I'm, like, all right. You know what? I can, I can do this. Would you play? Would you play? I did do a little bit of hot cross buns, a little, uh, a little, um, a little, um, uh,

Starting point is 00:05:47 Mary had a little lamb. That was the old. I remember this shit like it was yesterday. The easy ones. And then, uh, and then I went right into it. And like, for those of you, I take me back to middle school when you're in practice every fucking day. Barry Sacks for marching band is,

Starting point is 00:06:03 whenever you're doing marching music and you're a bass instrument, you're pretty much just going, Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum while the brass and everybody else were kind of doing the melody. It was not the hardest piece of music, and I still found a way to fuck it up. But it was, it was fun. Nobody knew you fucked it up, dude. I fucking thought you crushed it.

Starting point is 00:06:23 The bit that they did, uh, where they actually showed like the full song bro i was i was a proud brother and i couldn't hear you fucking up so you know you must have played it perfect that's good i mean i just kind of fit in i was getting a lot of help from a lot of the marching band members there so these guys are awesome oh we're going to play it here we go She just got me back fired up. So badass. I loved every fucking second of it.

Starting point is 00:07:07 Appreciate it. I was sitting on the fucking couch. I'm waiting to hear your take on the Eagles game. Wait to hear your take on the fucking Sunday night game. And here you are with a fucking marching band. Which I fucking tell everybody, you are a linebacker. that had the most tackles in the game, they're running back that had the most yards in the game,

Starting point is 00:07:30 and you played at the match time, which you didn't do. No, never, never did. You could have. You could have. And I asked the question,

Starting point is 00:07:39 why not, Jason? Because I was making halftime adjustments, all right? Yeah, thought there were a lot of halftime adjustments for the Clevelandites tigers back then. I was trying to catch my breath.

Starting point is 00:07:50 But, yeah, no, it was fun. I put the hat on, and it was like, I think it could have, fit if I would have readjusted it but I was like no this is perfect it reminded me you remember

Starting point is 00:08:01 the movie drumline do I remember drumline the one guy right before they right before they get into the fight they're doing it and he's got the thing is he's too fat and the things just in his teeth while he's doing it is that what it is yes we can pull up that picture that was in my head like I put it on I was like I feel like the kid that guy in the fucking movie and I'm like yeah and then they're like we can we adjust I was like no no this is this is this is the way it needs to be. Don't be injustice. We can't make,

Starting point is 00:08:30 this needs to be comedic in some way. So, yeah, that was good. Scott is just going to be in every marching band known to man. Definitely not. Not going to make this a thing. Every marching band in the NFL, Monday night, Jason's hitting it. I don't think there's many marching bands in the NFL.

Starting point is 00:08:45 I think the Ravens are the one that have a full marching band. It's the largest marching band in all of the NFL, 150 people in it. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, it's a full marching band. It was pretty legit. And I like promoting the arts and promoting music and to have an instrument on my hand. Like I think a lot of the times you don't get to see that side. You made it look so cool, dude.

Starting point is 00:09:07 I don't want to play saxophone. Yeah, you did. I want to wear a hat with a chin strap on my nose. Yeah, well, you just have a big head. I do. That's a Kelsey. It's a Kelsey trait. Thanks, Ed.

Starting point is 00:09:22 It was awesome. It was a lot of fun. They were more. they were more than accommodating and made it super easy for me, which I appreciate you guys, Baltimore Ravens Marching Band. That was a lot of fun. I hope you guys enjoyed it.

Starting point is 00:09:34 Sorry for being really shitty at saxophone now, but had a blast. Do you want to see it all the pictures your mom sent us? Mom had a bunch of pictures. Yeah, that's what I was. Oh, my fucking gosh. It's when I was playing alto sax before I switched to Barry. Dude, look at this.

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Starting point is 00:12:13 Like, I kind of go do the production meeting. Then I kind of iron out what's happening in the rundown. Then I go to the makeup lady. then I go to the hair, and then I go on set. I was just curious to see if you were putting that same game day energy into your new broadcasting routine, that's all. Well, first and foremost, it includes making sure that this beard is looking real nice, which is finally starting to show some of my grades again after dyeing it.

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Starting point is 00:13:28 All right, let's get some bold topics brought to you by Jolette from week three. Let's start with the Chiefs game. Little Chiefs 22 Giants 9 on Sunday night. Back in the win column, baby. Back in the win column. Let's fucking go. It does feel good. It does feel good.

Starting point is 00:13:44 That was not a great performance, but a win is a win. It's hard to win in the NFL, man. and I'll take a win any way I can get it. This is the first ever road win against the Giants and franchise history. It's pretty crazy. Our franchise record gets the Giants is pretty insane. What is it? It was like 4 and 13 or something like that.

Starting point is 00:14:06 Wow. I guess you think about it. Like the Giants used to be good. I don't think I've ever beaten the Giants up until today. I lied. I beat it before. When you got into the league, the Giants were just fading away from that like Eli Manning Super Bowl era giants.

Starting point is 00:14:20 And they were still had Eli Manning and they still beat us, yeah. Yeah, but they weren't Super Bowl-era Giants anymore. Because my second year, 2012 was the second Super Bowl they got, right? Damn, you're like a dinosaur, man. That was my second year in the league. I remember Marnie Mourningwig. When we went to the holiday party, we were kind of out of it already. And I remember asking Marty, like, hey, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl this year?

Starting point is 00:14:42 And this Giants are like eight and eight, like nothing special. And he's like, honestly, I think the Giants are going to, they're peeking at the right time. Their defense is stacked. and he called that shit. They went on the run and freaking won the whole damn thing. So that's the spags. Yeah, there we go.

Starting point is 00:14:57 All righty. Well, you guys got it done this week in the Meadowlands. Yes, we did. A little frustrating first half. It was a lot closer than it probably needed to be. Chief settled for three field goals in the red zone. Is that right? All of them in the red zone?

Starting point is 00:15:12 It was a big red zone. I think we got past the 30. We got hit with a few penalties that put us in third and longs and kind of kicked ourselves. once we cross the 50. But Harrison Bucker right there to punch them through for us and get points on the board. I will say it feels like we're rolling.

Starting point is 00:15:29 It feels like we're starting to get this thing going on offense. Our defense is playing stellar. Both this game and last absolutely phenomenal performances and stopping the run is the biggest thing. And our DBs are playing really good. We had a few turnovers. And when you win the turnover battle, you typically win the game.

Starting point is 00:15:47 Helps out. Helps out. And one of the great. craziest plays I've ever seen in my entire career was the Pat Mahomes pass that ended up being a backwards pass that he then went and ripped it out of the defense. I don't think that any other quarterback makes this play, dude. This was such. Fuck was that. There was so much like chaos in my mind of turned around like what, we got it back? Like what do you think is going into Pat's head right there? Right when the ball hits the ground. What's he's, no, but he's doing it in the right voice.

Starting point is 00:16:18 Come here, boy. He's like, oh, fuck. Get it, pop. This was such an impressive play. He covered so much ground and then just like, who has the foresight to like jump at the ball? Dude, it was insane, dude. I told him afterwards. I'm like, bro, I still don't know how in touch.

Starting point is 00:16:39 Dude, it's so insane from that angle. He just comes out of nowhere. That boy got heart, man. It did feel like you guys are starting to get rolling on an offense. Defense, like you said, has been playing pretty dang well, right? I mean, especially the last couple of weeks they've been playing well. And you got Pop going. You got the run game kind of active.

Starting point is 00:16:57 And then, you know, it felt like Pat started, especially in the second half, taking those shots. We've seen Thornton open down the field for a couple games now. It's been waiting for it to kind of happen. And all of a sudden it started popping for him. Hollywood Brown made a couple big catches. Hollywood's been playing fucking outstanding. He's been that safety net for Pat. and I think we're going to keep getting this thing rolling, man.

Starting point is 00:17:21 Hopefully we get Xavier back here soon and got Rashid Rice back in the building. I know we don't get to see him for another three weeks, but he'll get his engine rolling and practices and back in the building. Get the swagger back of having the whole unit together, man. Dachan! And even Juju is Smith-Sus. I can't say enough about what Juju is to this team. We've been talking about it.

Starting point is 00:17:44 His accountability. He's always in the right. spot always there for for pat especially in the rollouts has a good feel for for the game and the offense and just feeling out zones and being in the right place at the right time man just always accountable in the run game as well so i think we're starting to catch some momentum as an offense and and you know i think that comes with like you said getting pop going getting kareem going and these these big guys up front being able to just get off the ball and move guys and that'll help out the past game a lot and then um it just felt like between pop the

Starting point is 00:18:16 receivers. And every time somebody came a ball, got a ball thrown to them or they got a chance to make a play, everyone was fighting and running and, like, there were broken tackles. It felt back to, like, some vintage, like, Chiefs just, like, speed and energy and effort. And it was just fun to watch. It was a lot of fun to watch this past week. Second half, felt a lot more like Chiefs football. I still felt like in the first half, even though the points didn't get there, it felt like guys were breaking tackles. It felt like guys were making plays. You know what I mean? Whereas if it's felt like, it's felt like, like for the last couple weeks where it's, you know, even when the completions are made,

Starting point is 00:18:50 it's like almost like a tackle happens right away or, you know, Pat isn't able to find anybody so he takes off run. I felt like now guys were going out making incredible catches, right? Like that Thornton catch down the field was a fucking fantastic play. Right after he, uh, he, did he, what happened? He got a penalty, right? He, no, no, no. He caught the one right before.

Starting point is 00:19:13 And as he's going down, as he's going down to the ground. It moved. That's what it was. That's what it was. Thank you. Thank you. And then to come back and to make that second one, I'm like, oh, my God. The second one was even harder than the first one. I don't know how the hell he caught that. Just puts the point up in the air. Like, I got to. He like caught it through the defender.

Starting point is 00:19:31 No doubt about it. Boom. That is such a great catch falling and like sticking your hands out, man. He is, dude, he's been. I love that dude, man. You've mentioned this kind of even on the side. You've been waiting for this kid to kind of come on. He was a steal.

Starting point is 00:19:47 I don't know how he got out of New England, man, but we're appreciative that they let him go because he's just, he's a smart football player, sure hands on top of that, can run with the best of them, a big body, long arms, you know,

Starting point is 00:20:01 it's just, and he's a smart football player. Smart football players are going to fucking thrive in this offense because Coach Reed's going to put you in positions to where you get those one-on-one matchups, man, if you know how to attack it, good things are going to fucking happen.

Starting point is 00:20:12 And I think him, Hollywood, Juju, we've been rolling and we've been getting this thing kind of geared in the right direction. And I think Pat's just going to keep dialing it in as we go, baby. I can't imagine being a quarterback back there and trying to make decisions because there's the amount of things you're trying to process on a play-by-play basis is intense. And the more you build chemistry with guys, I've got to think it makes those decisions a lot easier. And with Pat, if you was like,

Starting point is 00:20:45 thousand percent yeah if it was pat it feels like obviously he has great chemistry with you he's got great chemistry with juju because he's played together a lot of the other guys like that is still kind of being developed in games and like no gray another guy had yeah that's right no agree had a bunch of fucking they they didn't seem like big gains he had he had about 30 close to 30 yards of yeah you know yards called back just because of penalties and stuff right right um still the the smaller the short gains of like six to ten yards that you're seeing with just underneath routes and him getting vertical. I mean,

Starting point is 00:21:19 that kind of stuff gets you a fresh sets of downs. It gets you a third and short. You know what I mean? Manageable situations. All that trust that you're talking about that gets built up in the offseason and in training camp and just being accountable in games, that just makes one five's job so much fucking easier. He doesn't have to think about, you know, where you're going to be or anything like

Starting point is 00:21:41 that. he can kind of just feel the game out from that point on. And man, when he's out there just, you know, letting the game come to him and feeling the game out and just being the ball player he is, man, he's the best player in the world. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what,

Starting point is 00:21:52 it's obvious that he's building chemistry with all the guys out there. But, I mean, the more he's building the chemistry with Tyquan Thornton, I just think, you know, it's going to open up so much underneath if that big play, big strike ability comes up. It's, it makes it much, much harder to defend everything you guys are doing. And either way, that moment was a spark. and I think the spark probably had been lit in for a while for the Chiefs, but it started clicking after that.

Starting point is 00:22:15 We also got a shout out one 992% who made it to the game. Erica Duchaman. Dushman. Is your grandma's motherfuckers? I was waiting for the touchdown. Were you going to punch a grandma? Did you have a grandma in mind? I didn't see any older women or anybody dressed up like a guy.

Starting point is 00:22:35 Like your grandma, yeah. Everybody was hiding them. Yeah, I really didn't have too many chances to, to, to get a touchdown this game. But man, we were rolling as an offense. And when you put up some big scores, man, who gives this shit? Dude, the sign was in fact confiscated. What?

Starting point is 00:22:52 I guess you can't cuss on. You probably can't cuss or threaten grandmas. I think both of those are probably prohibited at Meadowlands or most NFL stadiums. We're going to get you to punch a grandma at some point this year. Dude, I'm not punching anybody's grandma unless you dress up like a grandma. I'm coming to a Chiefs game at some point this year, dressed as a grandma. And if you don't punch me, I'm going to be furious. I can't wait for the NFL.

Starting point is 00:23:14 I'll find me for that one. Go ahead. Any thoughts on the rest of the game? You guys got the Ravens coming up coming off of a big loss. Huge game. Yeah. Monday night. They're going to be hungry, man.

Starting point is 00:23:23 They're going to be hungry and pissed off, man. I'm sure they felt like they've handed these last two games away. And even though the Lions played a hell of a fucking. Lions were, it was honestly, I came away more impressed with the lions than anything. Because I think the Ravens are legit, like unbelievable team. They are. still think they are. But the lions, especially off of that week one thing that happened in Green Bay,

Starting point is 00:23:46 it's like, oh, there's a lot of questions. Yeah, they played better against Chicago. Let's see how they do against Baltimore. They were them Dan Campbell lions across the board. Like they didn't do, they did some creative things, but they also. They also, they lost Frank Rag now this offseason retirement. Zitler left, but they went back. They were doing some creative stuff, but there was also just like, dude, they were lining up

Starting point is 00:24:10 and running right at them. They were running duo up and down the field. I don't know what play it was of some version of Jab Rub or just like. There was some creative stuff off of it. But for the most part, like it was pretty obvious. They got a big edge and they ran right at them. And there's not many things that are more like deflating, demoralizing than a team that just lines up and you know what's coming and it still is coming at you.

Starting point is 00:24:36 Like it was an impressive, impressive game from the Detroit Lions. and you're right Baltimore I mean you know John Harbaugh he's in there this week oh come on now I think they got enough guys and enough vets on that team to wear it doesn't I don't even think it takes Harbaal to come in and challenge those those guys are going to want to get that shit fixed themselves and

Starting point is 00:24:55 I expect them to be fucking rocking their best for sure yeah but I'm excited for the challenge baby excited for the challenge excited to take this thing up this is why we play the fucking game baby let's move on to some other football news out of week three. Some other big stories.

Starting point is 00:25:15 Eagles 33, Rams 26. Let's get your birds, brother. Jason, you and Kylie, were at the link for this game. We were getting some updates on what was going on as it wasn't going well for the birds to start off. It's terrible. It's terrible start.

Starting point is 00:25:31 Well, actually, to start in the game, it went incredibly well. Yeah. They dialed up a, I don't know, we called it a replacement blitz or a simulated pressure where it's, It feels like a blitz, but it's really only a four-man rush. Zach Bond read Stafford's eyes just like very well.

Starting point is 00:25:46 Hell of a player, man. And like typical quarterback, like you felt the blitz come, throw where the blitz came from, should be a hole there. And Zach just made an incredible play and started out, capitalized on that, scored a touchdown, a little tush push action. And all of a sudden we're up 7-0. I think this game, yeah, there we go. Eagles are back!

Starting point is 00:26:05 And then it was proceeded to be about two quarters of some of the most horrendous. Eagles football I've seen in a long time. It was bad. It was bad. I mean, the way it's ended for me wasn't great either, but I think we had five, three and outs. Like you want to talk about like struggling. We were struggling.

Starting point is 00:26:22 You start hearing the booze or? Oh my gosh. Second drive. You know, it was like one of those where like it was like a third and long situation. And like I feel like it's hard. Like what do you call? You go, you go to a screen, you go to a draw to like try and just get something back because you know you're not picking it up.

Starting point is 00:26:38 and then immediately it's like, boom, and it's like, yeah, I mean, I feel it. I get you, I get you, but it was, um, that's tough, man, fuck. You know, listen, first of all, the Rams are a great team. Their defense's a line is stacked. Their offense is stacked, you know, they, they do not have. Fucking top quarterback, and he's been doing it for a long time. Devante Adams, Pooka, Kua, like, they are loaded. Kiron Williams was, I mean, that was the one thing that was the most surprising.

Starting point is 00:27:07 our run defense has been pretty good and Kyron was he was giving it to us for a couple quarters there and the Rams were playing a hell of a game they had a hell of a plan coming in and it feels like a lot of the times when you're caught in that moment where you're going three and out you just need one play to kind of happen to get some momentum going and it just wasn't and you go into the game with all these openers and everything for especially first and second down and sometimes they're just not there and you're just waiting to get a play off and it just like it was just like a non-stop sack here you know they missed an assignment here the safety rotated the road it's the worst it was like a perfect it was just like a never ending just

Starting point is 00:27:51 kind of misfortune as well as like poor performance ended the half with negative one passing yards which is I mean impressive but not the impressive stat that you want I didn't I mean And times where that's happened before, one of the things I think the Eagles have done a great job, especially with Jalen, is just going on the ball. Let's get into like our bread and butter. Let Jalen be point guard, right? It was fun to watch in the second half because you got to see, you know, what these guys are capable of when they are performing at their best. And everybody's been waiting for A.J. Brown to have a game this year. It's been a frustrating start to the season for him, I'm sure, and for the entire team.

Starting point is 00:28:31 and for him to go out there and just like not even the first catch over the shoulder the he had a third down catch where he's two yards short right and he's throwing people off of him i mean that he is incredible well everybody loved watching the second half um except for kiley well kiley is very superstitious as we all know and you know what everybody doesn't mess around with these superstitions one of my favorite like tv show episodes of all time is how much the fans superstition really fucking matters. And it was your episode on Always Sunny in Philadelphia. And sure enough, she turns around one time and just says, you know what, go ahead.

Starting point is 00:29:14 Why don't you tell this story and how it all unfolded? Honestly, we, she turned around. I think this was right before the drive to the, with the big throw to AJ. And I like, we're all celebrating because we finally got something going offensively. I look back and Kylie's seat at back. She said, we got to change the mojo. We got to change the bojo up. She's switching around.

Starting point is 00:29:34 And then we end up scoring that drive. And it's like, yeah, Kai, I'm sorry. You're not allowed to turn around to the rest of the game. It wasn't even me saying that. Like, Kyle was saying on me like, hey, Jade, sorry, I'm going to be turned this way watching the rest of this game. Can you give me some updates? And then it was working out so well that Hannah Einbinder joined in right here.

Starting point is 00:29:50 She started looking the other way. It was a full team effort of anything they could do to try and send the juju their way. I mean, it was an awesome second half. It's not the way you want. to win in the NFL, right? Like, full disclosure, the Rams should have won that game. Like, they outplayed the Eagles. But sometimes things aren't going to go your way.

Starting point is 00:30:10 You're going to, what you expect and prepare for, it doesn't happen, and you struggle and to be able to, you know, get a win when you play like that and the game gets dictated like that. To not quit when you're down 26 to 7 in the third and to keep fighting and clawed to the very end and to come out victorious, I just thought was an amazing outcome for what otherwise was an abysible day for the Philadelphia Eagles, right? So they get to move forward now, and I guarantee they're going to be hard at work fixing this, right? They're going to be hard at work.

Starting point is 00:30:42 And how do we get out starting better? And it's one of those where one of the problems when you win is that things kind of get masked. And one of the great things about when you lose is like everybody's motivated to make all these corrections because we just lost a football game. This is one of those where like it feels like we lost. So I feel like a lot of the coaches are motivated to correct some things, but at the same time, we didn't lose. We won with one of the most spectacular finishes to a game we've ever seen with Jordan Davis. I mean, blocking, not only blocking it, picking it up and running it back for a touchdown. And by the way, like- At 300 and whatever fucking poundsy is, what a fucking beast.

Starting point is 00:31:20 And I could not be happier for this kid. He is such a workhorse. He has matured so much. He started hitting the weave. He's like, dude, I know I'm getting caught. You love it when it happens, the good dudes, man. And not only were the Eagles fans going crazy because the Eagles just won, the spread was three and a half.

Starting point is 00:31:40 So even if it's just a block, like most of the fans in that stadium are losing because they're taking the spread as well. And all of a sudden, his man picks it up, runs it back for six. A lot of Eagles fans were extremely happy on that one. SVP bad beats. That is a definition of a bad beat. That's a great play that's illustrated how far he's come. You know what I mean? Like he's always had the potential. And to see how he's gotten his second year, no, no, no, third year, third year, third year, third year. Third year guy. Oh, I apologize.

Starting point is 00:32:15 I'm actually, might be fourth. Is he a fourth year? He was the year before Jalen. I played a year with Jalen. This is Jalen's third year. So it's got to be his fourth season. interesting. So J.D., he came in like a young kid, and I just think that you see the maturity and the growth that he's had as a person and a player. He's gotten his weight under control. He's in better shape than he's ever been in, and it's paying dividends on the field. He is playing lights out in the middle of the defense right now, and that was just like an awesome moment to really solidify him on the national stage. So happy for Jordan Davis and everything he's put in to get to this point and happy

Starting point is 00:32:54 that the birds were able to get a win man how about it? Fat guy TDs man most exciting playing football every time it'll never not be the most exciting shit you'll ever see fat guys fat guys running period man you get some big boys fucking hauling ass man

Starting point is 00:33:13 that is one of the great things it's showing itself it's one of the great things about football is that on one side you have like Tyree Kill who is just like the most agile human being I've ever seen and then on the same field, you have this Jordan Davis, 340 pounds, and he's still like an incredible athlete in his own right. I mean, even outside of that, you got offensive linemen that can't even get up to like 15

Starting point is 00:33:35 miles an hour running out there. Oh, yeah. It's just the disparity of athletes and body types in the game of football will never, like, get old to me. It's just so fun to watch. It's a beautiful thing, baby. Final thoughts on the game? Final thoughts are, I think I'm happy that we won.

Starting point is 00:33:51 Damn, happy that we won. We got a lot to fix. But again, it's one of those things I think it's encouraging when, you know, it just felt like one of those days where a lot of things are going wrong. We weren't playing well. You know, let's face it, the Rams have spent all offseason trying to beat the Philadelphia Eagles. They lost the playoff game. So all off season, they've been dedicating resources and everything to defeating Philadelphia.

Starting point is 00:34:16 And I thought they had a great plan coming in. Their players played hard. and for the Eagles to win despite a lot of bad play and things not going their way. I mean, that's kind of about as good as you can ask. And now they get to make the corrections moving forward. Half of our fucking wins were like this last year, dude. Seriously.

Starting point is 00:34:38 There's something about teams and players, and I know the Jalen thing has been brought up. Like, everybody just says, like, all this dude knows how to do is win. And I really do think that the Eagles are uniquely, positioned in their mindset of like they want to win and they're collectively motivated in how they prepare and perform and everything is designed to just increase the optimal chances of that happening. And it's one of the reasons why they ended, oftentimes end up getting it done. The Eagles game also gave us a new football term. What's that? The wrong game

Starting point is 00:35:12 dickhead. Wrong game dickhead. Wrong game dickhead. What's that? Anybody who wears a jersey that's not Eagles or Rams. is a wrong game dickhead. Like, that's what it is. A fair point. And, and, and, the golf's guy right there. He's a wrong game dickhead. Or the guy with the Amani Tourism right here.

Starting point is 00:35:29 Why would you go to an Eagles and Rams game and wear an opposing jersey like that? Like, it makes no sense. Wear a white t-shirt. Wear a black t-shirt. If I see that, I'm going to call you out. You're going to be on my Instagram as wrong game dickhead. Can people follow that somewhere?

Starting point is 00:35:46 At Joey D. 3444. Instagram. For all the wrong game dickheads. that's pretty fucking good i can get on board with that i get on board with the i mean it that's like um you know you go over to like london or some of these international games that's a different that's a different that's a different world they don't get to see football as much and it does feel weird when you're at a game and you see a jersey that's not of one of the two teams playing it's like what are we what are we doing here you're just announcing that you don't care about this

Starting point is 00:36:12 game like what i don't understand what the purpose of this is like you're a justin jefferson I get it. Yeah, this is great, but this isn't the time to be. I'd rather just wear another sport at that point. Like, just wear like a New Jersey devil's jersey. What the fuck are we doing? That's fucking funny. Anyways, I can get on board with that for sure.

Starting point is 00:36:33 We also have an insane witching hour in the span of 15 minutes. Talk about one of the most insane 15 minutes of NFL football watching Sunday from this past week. The Eagles obviously blocked a field goal, then scored a go-ahead touchdown. blocked a game-winning field goal with a scoop and score. That was an insane 15 minutes, but also in that same time frame. The Browns down 10-0, nothing tied it at 10, then blocked a game-winning field goal from the other team, only for a few plays later to kick their game-winning field goal.

Starting point is 00:37:05 The Jets were down 23-6, and Tampa is kicking a game-sealing field goal to go up nine. The Jets blocked the field goal score to go ahead 27-26. Baker then, of course, like Baker does, leads another fourth quarter game-winning drive. Seven game-winning scores and final three minutes on Sunday ties a record for a single week. Football's better than it's ever been, baby. It is. How about it, man. This is why it's the best.

Starting point is 00:37:34 It's better than it's ever been, man. In total, four blocked field goals in the fourth quarter on Sunday is the most in a single day since at least 1991. Have you guys been talking about this? Like, why are the blocked kicks feel like they're way up? Why are people trying to get rid of kicking? What are you talking about? Punts? No, dude.

Starting point is 00:37:53 Everybody's like over here. Like, why is kicking apart? Because it's a fucking electric play. Well, it is when you block it. It's not electric when they just are making 60-yarders. Like, it's fucking nothing. Still electric. No.

Starting point is 00:38:04 But it's electric because you're sitting there waiting to see whether he's going to make this 60-yarder for the game or it's going to get blocked. That's everybody's point is that it's been too easy to make these longer field goals now. and people are tired of it not being like, oh, is it going to make it? But now, yeah, I mean, listen, if people are blocking four fuel kicks, yeah, I'm in. Let's fucking go to it. I'm all in on this. There's nothing more exciting than a block kick, especially a block kick for a score. Like, that is such a huge momentum shifter to end a game on that.

Starting point is 00:38:34 I mean, that's better than a walk-off home run. Think about the ending a game, lacking a kick, scooping and scoring. That is like a walk-off of all walk-offs right there. That is insane. It is. Gosh. That's epic.

Starting point is 00:38:49 All right. Is any sport ever going to come close to NFL? No, it's not. Because here's why. No other sport plays this many games at one time. Like the NFL 1 o'clock time slot in the 4 o'clock time slot, you know you're going to get so much action in the span of eight hours. It's the greatest.

Starting point is 00:39:09 That's what everybody looks forward to it every single week. It's all at the same time. And like, I get, I'm sitting in the state. and I'm trying to watch the game, and I'm also on my app watching YouTube TV, other games. I'm checking the scores on ESPN. I'm like, dude, being a fan, you don't know this yet because you're still playing. Being a fan is fucking incredible. I've been a fan first.

Starting point is 00:39:32 You're actually like I haven't been a fan of this my entire fucking life. You're going to find out. You're going to be seeing a lot more when you're fucking at the game on one o'clock and all this shit's happening across the league. And you're fucking. That was like your fucking one o'clock games. All right, whatever. But you don't appreciate it the same way until you're done.

Starting point is 00:39:49 You're still so focused into the Chiefs. And I still love the Eagles. But now I'm looking at more of like everything happened across the league. One o'clock on Sunday is like, fucking let's go, baby. God damn, that's a fun time to watch. Power me up, man. All right. Last thing for week three, this tweet was during Thursday night football,

Starting point is 00:40:07 but we thought it was important to address it from got CTE from playing peekaboo. That's funny. Ineligible man downfield penalties are fast. Fat phobia to offensive linemen, let the big men roam with a damn well, please. I love the tweet. I think it's hilarious. A hilarious tweet. But as much as I would love to go downfield, I do think it's pretty unfair if a blindman is downfield engaged with a linebacker who's supposed to be covering like a hook to curl.

Starting point is 00:40:37 I think we can agree that we should not allow linemen down. I would love to run a shallow cross with Creed Humphrey blocking the guy that I'm running away from. seems a bit unfair from a play action standpoint on what linebackers as if what linebackers are being asked to do isn't hard enough we're going to make this impossible for you to tell whether it's a runner pass epic so yeah no i'm very happy that it is a penalty if anything i think they could make it two yards it used to be one yard and a healthy two now they've they've they go more by the letter of the law like no you get a yard and that's it we're done with the rpo's going a bit further. I do think there's some that are called that are borderline enough on screens

Starting point is 00:41:21 and whatnot where it doesn't really impact another player that end up getting called. And I think that's kind of bogus. Also, if you guys, if the offensive lineman engages within a yard. Yeah, you can block him as far as you want. Yeah. Yes. So, I don't know. I think the, I think the rule is just fine the way it is. But sometimes the defensive players know this now and they can disengage with you and you can still get called. That's happened. to me before, where you start blocking a deed tackle at the line of scrimmage, you got him two or three yards on the field, and he'll throw you. And now that I'm not engaged, I'm technically downfield.

Starting point is 00:41:56 But the only reason I was engaged is because I was blocking a guy within that yardage. I think that shouldn't be a penalty personally. But either way, the rule is good enough. I think offenses really pushed the limit on this stuff a couple years ago. And I think the league rightfully so to make it fair for defenses got it back in line with where the law the rule and the intent of what it's trying to limit does what would happen if everyone's eligible to catch a ball i mean i don't know it would if everyone was eligible to catch a ball it would be you would just it would have to drastically change how defense is taught

Starting point is 00:42:33 and the creativity for offense is so great already if everybody's able to catch a ball it would open up a lot more creativity and it just feels like that you're not like it would be too much. I'm not a fan of it. Part of that's probably just because I know the game and the way it is right now. But like, thinking of a guard sloughing off and like somebody having to be responsible to like guard him in case somebody throws him the ball, it just feels like that's a bit too much to me. So I think it's fine just the way it is. I'm also in favor of ineligible numbers. Like I don't want to see offensive linemen starting to wear number one. I fucking hate that the NFL changed the rule for defense alignment. Like I used to love like,

Starting point is 00:43:16 these iconic numbers that, like, defensive ends used to wear, linebackers used to wear. And, like, now I see, like, a D-N, and he's wearing number one or number 11. I'm like, fuck off. Like, wear number fucking 98 or something like that. Like, I'm not into this.

Starting point is 00:43:30 If you're a big body, you're playing on a lot of scrimmage, you should have a big fucking number number. I don't want to see this skinny fucking number bullshit. I shouldn't be calling out number 11. He's a fucking good player, but. I don't even know it's 11 you're talking about. Well, every offensive tackle in the NFL does, Mr. Michael Parsons.

Starting point is 00:43:49 Well, he's not a fat boy. If you're playing on the line, you're playing a fat boy position and you need to be playing with it. I just don't like the hold numbers. I really liked that you could tell, just as like a fan, I really liked by like, like, even like watching a jersey, looking at a jersey. I want a quarterback to wear 99. See, I don't want that. I like looking at a jersey and knowing without even fucking knowing the guy, what position that guy played. There was something about the number signifying what position you play.

Starting point is 00:44:15 and I just liked. I just, I don't know. I just was a fan of it. I don't like that now the numbers mean nothing on defense. Anybody can wear whatever the fuck they want. And then on offense, you still have ineligible numbers. That's kind of fat shaman. Now that's fat phobia.

Starting point is 00:44:28 Just offensive alignment are restricted to wearing these fucking 50 to 70? Is that what it is? 50 to 80? 79. That's bullshit. Everybody should be restricted. No. Receivers are restricted from 80 to, what, 100?

Starting point is 00:44:42 What was the old rule? Receivers could wear 80 to 100. or like 1 to 10 or something like that. 80 to 89 and then 1 to 10 through 19. 1 through 19. And then running backs were 20 through 40, 20 through 39. 49. 49.

Starting point is 00:44:56 20 through 49. Linebackers were 40 through 59. Yeah. Although I think they could wear 60 because Chuck Bedrick were 60. Yeah, they can go in the 60s. Anyways, I used to like that. I don't know, man. I dug that history of it and that the numbers had some type of specific reason to why you were wearing it.

Starting point is 00:45:15 You don't agree to you. I don't really. I haven't put too much thought into it. No. Well, that does it for bold topics. Brought to you by Gillette, the best a man can get. Stamp of the week is brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. I already gave Isaiah Rogers a stamp of the week on the Hemi nomination on Monday Night Countdown.

Starting point is 00:45:36 So that is my stamp of the week. But because I gave it on Monday night, I'll do somebody different for our show purposes. Twitter user Nancy S who sent interned branding Customized Merton I don't give a fuck about that Colts running bag Jonathan Taylor

Starting point is 00:45:51 I mean he has been fucking balling I don't know what the fuck I'm doing I'll give my stamp to Jordan Davis for blocking a fucking field goal for the win I don't know what I can't think of a better one than that so I'm going there That's a good one I'm going

Starting point is 00:46:07 Breakout games I'm going Taekwant Thornton man There you go Keep it in house Keep it in-house this week, guys. I mean, Taekwant Thornton, a guy that's kind of been knocking at the door, I think ever since he came to Kansas City last year and just been grinding day in, day out,

Starting point is 00:46:24 getting acclimated, showing the coaches he can be trustworthy. But on top of that, just sharpening iron, just getting in there and perfecting his craft. You love it when a guy comes in and you can see the growth, man. Yep. And for him to get a game ball on Sunday night, make the big time plays that he did and help propel us into our first win, man. That deserves a stamp from me.

Starting point is 00:46:49 I feel like we should start stamping fans of the week. We need a fan stamp of the week. And I think you got to go with the Eagles guy calling out people wearing other jerseys. Give that guy's stamp. That's a fucking great call. We got to stop it with the nonsense. We'll do players because everybody wants to hear about players, which I guess that makes sense.

Starting point is 00:47:06 But I'm more interested. What is the person at the game? Show some love. Yeah, show some love to the one. stuff is way more interesting sometimes. I'm with that. That felt like the one that was like, that was a good rant,

Starting point is 00:47:16 a good grind my gear segment that I can get on board with. I'm all in on that. Stamp that motherfucker. Stamp that motherfucker. I don't know what it means, but you're stamped, Joey. Made man.

Starting point is 00:47:28 Made man in the new heights community. All right. Once again, that was stamp of the week brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. It's time for our betting segment with our partners Draft King Sportsbook. let's build some same gay parlay guys come on in here let's build it in we went three for three on Monday baby we missed one of our best last week we did hit all three of them on the parley on Monday night

Starting point is 00:47:54 what are we going with this week we got Seahawks at Cardinals a little Thursday night football okay all right Jake Jake I'm gonna toss it to you over under currently at 43 and a half how are we feeling Jake all right so it's a divisional matchup got to keep that in mind you got two defensive-minded head coaches. I'm going to take the under in this game, even though it's a relatively low under, but Thursday night, short week, I'm taking the under here at 43.5.

Starting point is 00:48:22 I like the under, too. The Cardinals have been playing really good defense. My man, Nick Rallis, the defensive coordinator, not a lot of people know that name. I think he's going to be, I think it'll be a head coach one day. That guy is very talented, very smart. Seahawks offense has probably been putting up some points, but I think Cardinals keep this under below.

Starting point is 00:48:41 that total. Ooh, we're taking an under rare for us. All right, okay. I hate taking an under. I know. It feels dirty. I don't really like it. Yeah, I mean, it's.

Starting point is 00:48:49 But it's Thursday, too. Thursday, it's under, under's hit on Thursday. All right. So we're taking the under. What else? We got two other bets we got to do here. Let's do some anytime touchdowns. Those are always fun.

Starting point is 00:48:58 All right, Marvin Harrison, Jr. I think that since he's struggling, I'm assuming they're going to try and force him the ball and have some plays designed to get him some touches and some touchdowns. If it was somebody else, I would say maybe avoid it, but I think for some reason, I feel like they're going to have some plays designed specifically for him.

Starting point is 00:49:17 If I'm trying to get a receiver going, they're going to try and have something specifically designed for him, I bet. So I'm going, I'd go, I go Marvin Harrison anytime touchdown. I'll take a Marvin Harrison anytime touchdown. All right. Okay. Last one, so we've got to mix it up here. We got to do both teams.

Starting point is 00:49:32 Let's take a look at Seattle. Anytime touchdown, Kenneth Walker or JSN. So as much as I love my boy, Sam Darnold, former Jet. I'm going to think, again, we've been talking about the running game. I think if they're close on the red zone, Kenneth Walker, he's a touchdown machine. I'm going to go with Kenneth Walker anytime touchdown. So our same game parlay comes out to plus 1,400. Jake, if they bet $10, you want to tell them what they win?

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Starting point is 00:54:42 Be prepared for the least professionally done interview of all time. We are in way over our head. This is fucking, I still can't wrap my head around it. You guys are going to love this one. Or you're going to hate it because we're morons. but you'll love that keep you cool keep you cool they're here keep your cool keep you cool I can't I'm super excited this is fucking so badass play it cool guys Leo and what's up Travis what's up Jason how you guys doing man it's an honor being interviewed by you guys thank you our first podcast

Starting point is 00:55:16 fellas listen this is the most unprofessional podcast there has ever been we act as amateurs over here anyways. All right, here we go. Jason, you want to do the honors. My brother. Oh, baby, I guess today. Between them have four Golden Gold Awards, two Academy Awards. They have starred in 13 films that have been nominated for Best Picture. Combined their films have grossed almost $14 billion at the box office. You know them from their iconic roles in Sicario, Traffic, the usual suspects, 21 grams, Guardians in the Galaxy, as well as Titanic, the Departed, Inception, the Revenant,

Starting point is 00:55:53 and Walf the Wall Street on the time in Hollywood. And now is the stars of the new movie, one battle after another. At the 2% of us, please welcome Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio Deltoro. What's up, fellas. What's up? Oh, my goodness.

Starting point is 00:56:08 Thank you. That's an intro. That was an intro. That was like the WWF. That's what we go for here. All energy, baby. Hall of Fame or intro, baby. How we doing, fellas?

Starting point is 00:56:19 Doing good. Good, man. Great. Thank you. Coming to the end of this press. tour for this movie. We've been all over the world, haven't we? L.A., London, Mexico City. Now we're in New York. We appreciate your time, man. The movie is fucking amazing. I can't wait to hear everybody's reviews when it comes out this Friday, man. You two in the movie, your dynamic is so fucking good. And Leo, you mentioned that it's political without like feeling like you're taking medicine. And I feel like your guys is dynamic of making it fun and making it like the banter is great. The character. are so great. You feel like you, you enjoy all the characters. When you saw the script,

Starting point is 00:56:58 did you see the comedy aspects in there or like the, like the hints of like comedy that are in it? I think the comedy came from the writing and the situation that Paul set up. I mean, he based this on like revolutionaries from the late 1960s, put in a modern day context. And then you have my character who's just trying to raise a daughter who can't get off the couch, who's too stone to get off the couch. He can't remember the password. from his past and his only home he can go to is his daughter's karate teacher. The comedy just came

Starting point is 00:57:29 from that whole setup and then I just continue to fail over and over. You think I'm going to use these espionage skills from the past and I just fall off the roofs. We're drinking and driving. I mean, that is one of the greatest parts of the movie is like, but beneath like this

Starting point is 00:57:46 very heavy setting of like revolutionary things happening and like bad actors and the government. and all this like really it's a it's a movie about a father and a daughter and it's like so relatable on that level and then it's also relatable on like you're doing the best you can but you keep fucking up like the the password scene was just brilliant and like it's now time all these safeguards have been put in place to actually help protect us and we can't even get it done because we can't remember the protocols he's got to deal with horrible customer service it's so good but yeah there's something about i mean i'm a sucker for any movie about a father and a daughter father and a son i any way you strike it like there's just something very like visceral when you're so when you see a character trying to protect uh their child and you guys just you did it wonderful leo benicio did a great job of keeping the cool had to keep bob in line or getting them always had a beer for bob

Starting point is 00:58:44 when you saw him, man, it's just a L.G. I was at a Modelo life. A man's best friend. Yeah. That all's from Paul, though. I mean, Paul was writing this for 15, 20 years. He wanted to do a movie like this that was, you know, that was politically charged. But at the heart of it, it is a story about a father protecting his daughter. I think it was very personal to him, too.

Starting point is 00:59:07 He wanted to do a story because he was thinking about his own daughter in this crazy world that we live in, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Leo, you were kind of mentioning before we even started this thing that you had always wanted to work with Paul Thomas Anderson, man. And he's one of the greats. And a guy that, you know, for those that don't know, he writes, he directs, he works a lot of the cinematography. Like, there's a lot on that guy's plate going into it. What was it that really made you want to, like, be a part of something or work with him on a project? I mean, he's one of those generational filmmakers that come along, you know, once in a lifetime. I remember seeing Boogie Nights for the first time.

Starting point is 00:59:45 I was like, damn, this is a cultural moment. I remember playing that CD in my car for months afterwards, just thinking about that movie, the visuals. Just the fact that he like, you know, he delved into the world of porn and made all this humanity out of it. He created human beings. And then he just kept improving himself after that. I mean, from that point on, Magnolia, Punch Drunk Love,

Starting point is 01:00:10 there will be blood was a masterpiece. He's, you know, he's one of those, you just want to be a part of his filmography, you know what I mean? He's one of those great artists that you say, man, I just love to be a sliver in that man's filmography. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah, absolutely. I think that he's one of those few filmmakers out there also that is like totally original, unpredictable. And also, you know, like you said, it's a, he brings that human condition, which means, he cares about the process of the actor, too,

Starting point is 01:00:45 which makes every actor in this film is fantastic. Small parts, big parts, everyone is fantastic. And that's him. We got to work with a lot of non-actors, too, which was cool. You know, we were in El Paso. We were at the border in Tijuana. We were in Borago Springs, Northern California. And he brings in a lot of people that have these real jobs

Starting point is 01:01:09 that are real shop owners, corrections offices. military brings all these people and informs you know the story like what would you do in this circumstance and what would you say so we got to work with a lot of people that i think informed what we were doing in a lot of ways yeah it shined through in the movie it really does a great job of humanizing some very heavy things throughout and it's i it's i always love that when you're when you're seeing um both sides everybody's acting in like self-interest human interests and really letting that shine through is just it's spectacular when a director nails it as well as you did in this film. So well done, fellas. Thank you, man. Thank you. I kind of wanted to jump

Starting point is 01:01:50 on the director bandwagon here. Benicio, you worked with Wes Anderson. Yes. In the Phoenician, and I fucking love that one. Thank you. It was, it was so, I just, I'd love the, the difference in, and how both of these guys kind of directing their own worlds and the symmetry and everything, West Anderson. What is the biggest difference from a director like Paul and a director like Wes in terms of on set? And just for like the viewers

Starting point is 01:02:20 that dream about being on a set with these guys and you guys. Yeah, I think that Wes is a little bit, he's got everything mapped out. And Paul is mapping it out. He's got a playbook, too. Paul has a playbook. He knows what he's going to do,

Starting point is 01:02:41 but he allows the actors to go in and find, he's trying to catch the reality in the moment. Wes is finding the, he's trying to find the reality in a contained manner, but you can still bring yourself into it. It's just a little bit more rigid,

Starting point is 01:02:59 you know, because I think Wes is a little bit more, like theater and Paul is a little bit more like a documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you do a play, you got to know your lines, you got to like, the blocking has got to be pretty much stage

Starting point is 01:03:15 and then I think Paul tries to catch that lightning right there on the spot, you know, he tries to catch it right there. I mean, we did many things that, you know, are not in the film. Yeah. But, you know, he's just pushing you to like,

Starting point is 01:03:31 you get a chance to improvise quite a bit. But, I mean, with Wes's films, you don't as much. But with Paul, you do get to improvise a little bit. And he might just catch something that was never scripted. Yeah. Yeah. To add to what he was saying, I mean, there's a lot of sequences.

Starting point is 01:03:48 I mean, this is his first kind of action movie, Paul Tom. And like we said, he's a master filmmaker. So I was curious what he was going to do in this genre. But he had a lot of stuff, action TBD, you know, road trip TBD. That's to be determined. This guy comes in straight from Phoenician scheme and it's like, okay, this is what my character is doing. This is what he's not doing.

Starting point is 01:04:09 He's got an underground railroad situation for immigrants. I know this person in the hospital. And if you kill this guy, I'm not helping him. And we're like, wow. So we went all this stuff. That was what was so cool about working with Paul. We went on a, we just went on a road trip for a week. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah. Yeah. I had to set the pick. He had to roll. Yeah. Get the pick he goes. Yeah. I just went in there.

Starting point is 01:04:33 I knew I had to set the pick, you know? I knew that. All that driving stuff with the Modello, that happened in two days. Paul's like, all right, let's get a new car. Let's get some sort of a building for him to have this system. We just went on a little road trip for the movie because Paul's open to that. You know, I mean, he's not, a lot of writer-directors, I feel like, are very rigid in exactly what they want their film to be.

Starting point is 01:04:56 But he led us the actors really shape the characters and just said, All right, let's go somewhere else. Crew, we're moving out west. Go. That had to be so refreshing, man. And that's so fucking cool. I mean, that's got to be not only a badge of honor because he trusts you guys in your professionalism,

Starting point is 01:05:10 but that had to be like refreshing coming from other sets, I'm assuming. Hey, he trusts me driving that car going 35, 40 miles an hour with this guy, our protagonist, LD, sitting on the edge of the window, and I'm driving every night and one day, he will look at me like this. Hey, are you okay? It was that eye contact right before, yeah. But, you know, he trusts his actors a lot. He does.

Starting point is 01:05:37 I was going to ask who signed on to this one first between you two. I did, man. I did. I got to, he's, Paul is interesting. He starts like a conversation with you. You don't know if you're doing a movie or not doing a movie. He's like, let's go have dinner. I'm like, all right, cool.

Starting point is 01:05:51 Let's go have dinner. We're out in Tarzana, some strange restaurant, just starts talking you. Then he took us both to dinner. Starts talking about ideas. is, then he'll maybe whisper about something that he might be involved. And you're like, okay, give me a call when that happens. Then four months later, there's another dinner, right? And then I get a picture.

Starting point is 01:06:12 This is the character you're going to play. And he sends me a picture of a tiger, you know, it's a poster. It's a tiger dressed in a judo kimono. And that's sensei. Yeah. And I'm going, okay, I get it. Okay. I get it.

Starting point is 01:06:27 I get it. You know. Oh, yeah. There's hints of that thing. throughout the movie, too. I remember seeing that in the, uh, in the apartments. Benicia, are you an actual sensei? Do you do martial arts? No, I did a little bit when I was younger. I did a little bit of taquoando and I did a little bit of judo. Okay. Which, uh, judo was kind of like interesting. Uh, there's a couple moves.

Starting point is 01:06:46 There's a couple moves, you know, the sweep that is like, can get you out a lot of jams. But I'm not a sensei. I'm not a sense. Leo, I got to ask you about the taser scene. That was a little bit too good acting. Dude, like, you beat me to it, dude. Have you actually been tased before? Dude, that was too good, man. You got to have felt that to be able to do that good. I just felt the shock of what it must be like.

Starting point is 01:07:13 But no, that was not real. Lost a few YouTube videos and embodied it. A lot of people are like, did you do your own stunts? I'm like, hell no, I didn't fall off that roof, man. I would not be sitting here. I was in tears, dude. I would not be sitting in tears, man. That was the cool thing about this character.

Starting point is 01:07:32 Every time we got up to the point where, okay, when does Bob do something heroic? And we just were like, nah, let him fuck up with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just, he was on his couch getting stoned. And then he found out his daughter's gone. He's paranoid, man. He's not going to be able, he's not going to be mobile enough to pull anything all the way to the end of the movie.

Starting point is 01:07:50 We still didn't have what the ending was going to be. You know, we're like, is this where Bob does a heroic moment? And then Paul right there's like, no. what you did is moved on to the next generation. She has to accept the trauma of your actions. You're going to do nothing heroic except be her dad and say, and never give up. And never give up.

Starting point is 01:08:09 Fucking brilliant, man. Is it harder to act like you've been tased or high on quailudes? What's harder there? I got to say that quailude sequence, I didn't know when I was shooting it. But we were there for three or four days. I thought it was like a couple shots. And Marty had 50 shots. set up for me crawling around up and downstairs falling, getting into a car.

Starting point is 01:08:31 I was like, damn, I didn't know this. The Taze thing was like 20 minutes. All right. There you go. One and a half. Boom, nailed it. You guys have both worked with, obviously, we already talked about the two Anderson directors, but Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg.

Starting point is 01:08:46 Is there anything that like all these guys having common in terms of all the greats you guys have worked with? Is there one common denominator? What would you say if that one common? would say that the ability to listen to collaborate you know i think the ones that i that i've that i consider like uh great that they they can they will listen they they're willing to collaborate and um you know some less than others but i think that you know i think it would be like a coach you know that listens to what you're on the field yeah exactly playing it you can sit on the

Starting point is 01:09:24 on their sidelines and, you know, and imagine what it would be like, but it's different when you walk in the line, you know? So I think that the directors for me are the ones that will allow you to, like, that will listen to what you say regarding the actual game, you know. And I would just add that, you know, some directors, you have to fit into a context or a perception of a world they create. You know what I mean? There's a lot of plots that are hard to unwry.

Starting point is 01:09:54 that are very intricate, that doesn't allow a lot of movement. But even those directors, if they allow you as an actor to say, you know, Scorsese says this all the time, is I don't care about plot. I don't care about plot. He goes, I want to go with the emotion of what the actor does because that, that's the story to me. Sometimes it could be less. Sometimes it could be more.

Starting point is 01:10:14 But those are the, when I watch a movie, those are the moments that I remember, you know. Right. I don't think about, oh, this happened in the plot, that happened. I was like, that moment with those actors, that felt like. real life to me. It's funny. It's crazy. Joe Pesci and Goodfellas, that moment. He's trying to capture those moments of real life that make you, I don't know, that make you feel something that makes you feel like you're a part of the story in a way. I mean, every, every movie is different, every story is different, every co-star is different. So imagine you guys playing with a different

Starting point is 01:10:47 team and a different coach almost every other game. The actor has to be flexible, you know, because otherwise you'll break on the flip side is there a common denominator for the actor to have for like all these different direct i mean you guys have with some of the best directors ever to do it you know is there a common denominator for you guys that you're like you go in knowing that you i don't know you've you've kind of you have your style of acting but is there any like bend in in how you approach things depending on who that who that director is yeah i think for me yes for me yes Hey, the bottom line is you have to be prepared. You know, you can't expect a director to be there for you if you're not there for them, too.

Starting point is 01:11:32 So you have to do your preparation, you know, whatever it is, understand the story, where you are in the story, because a lot of movies are shot, you know, out of order. So I think that, you know, there's a lot of things that go into play. But I think, you know, you have to also be prepared. it's like condition training we've got to know our lines that's like the basic fundamentals go in there know your lines and you know you're going to adapt to different actors and their style of doing things you know some people want to go more by the script some people for example like jonah hill i mean this guy's the greatest improvisational actor i've ever worked with the guy will take the take the scene off to left field and you got to somehow reel it back in and understand what the hell we have an

Starting point is 01:12:19 ending to the scene. You know what I mean? This character's got to get from point eight. And Jonah Hill will just talk about whatever the hell he wants. You know, and you just got to react. You got to be on your toes. You know,

Starting point is 01:12:29 there's different actors in all these different films that have different approaches. But I'm sure there's a bunch of magic that happens when Jonah does that. And like, I think, I don't know, there's so many similarities when here you guys talk about directors and coaches and teams in football.

Starting point is 01:12:43 And that's how us two idiots think about the world. But like, you know, the best coach is find ways of creating structure and putting in plays, but at the same time, allowing the personality and the uniqueness of their individual players manifest through that, right? Like, that's when it becomes specials, when you have guys who are talented and, like, how can we utilize these guys to their strengths, Travis Kelsey, Pat Malholmes, and all that. So it just rings so true.

Starting point is 01:13:08 And it also makes, not to crap on any director specific style, but as a player, I just love when you get input and you get ownership over. what is being created right like that's what always makes me feel much better about it and that sounds like exactly the way this movie went down with you guys and that's got to be just like such a great feeling to know that this thing's coming out and the world's going to see it and that you were such not just a part of being an actor but a part of actually making the the creative piece in a more holistic way right yeah part of a team let me ask you guys a question are some of these coaches way more structured and rigid and other ones allow you to

Starting point is 01:13:48 Improvise more? How does it work? Leo, there are some assholes out there, man. I've had the fortune of only playing for one coach. Jason, he's gone through a handful of them, so he's got a bunch of different understanding of it all, I guess. Go ahead, Jason. Well, just between college and the pros, and I was fortunate. I had one offensive line coach in the NFL, and listen, I'm a good,

Starting point is 01:14:15 I'm a good teammate, I'm a good player. I've liked in some capacity every coach I've ever played for. There's things you like about every single one of them and there's things that you wish were different. But I just, I've been a part of the micromanaging coaches that want everything done their way and militaristic. And I just don't think that that leads to much creative. Like it just doesn't ever become what it, the maximum potential that it could be.

Starting point is 01:14:41 And the coaches that know how to like get the most out of people, and how to motivate them, let their personality show. It's something Andy Reid. That's one of my favorite things you always says. Let your personality show. He wants his guys to go out there and be themselves because, you know, he's going to get the best version of them. Instead of trying to make them fit this specific thing, let's find a way to incorporate this guy into the offense. So it's just done, and it feels better.

Starting point is 01:15:10 It sounds like acting, man. Welcome to Hollywood. There you go. It's exactly like that. It's exactly like that. I will say this. Coach Reed came in to Kansas City, and he kind of had to break a culture. So my first, like, taste of Coach Reed was very much, you're doing it this way. You're doing it this way. And once we kind of recreated that culture into where he could trust us and we could collaborate and we can make it, that's when we really got the train rolling and started to have a bunch of success, as well as getting a guy like Pat Mahomes.

Starting point is 01:15:44 Everyone starts on that totem pole of, like, you're going to do what you're told to do right now. Yeah. And then as they get to know you, as they get to know your strengths, then you start getting like, you know, they start giving a little bit more. Like as Stout starts, my offensive line coach starts to understand me and we start talking the same language, I feel more empowered to be like, hey, what if we did this, this and this? And that's a good idea. I like this. Let's start. Let's try it out.

Starting point is 01:16:08 And then it's just, it starts developing into a relationship. At least you asked. Yeah. yeah sometimes you can't ask you know you gotta earn your right to party yeah there we go baby oh god and you're right baby yeah you know baby yeah i was saying that sometimes the bullets are flying and you can't ask you just got to fucking do it yeah i'm doing it in the middle of a whole situation you got you got to do it yeah yeah and some some directors are like very structured too and you got to find your way within their structure yeah there's some of them are rigid like that

Starting point is 01:16:44 They have a playbook of exactly how they want the stories to go. And there's not a lot of room to play in that. But I think the funner ones, funner movies to do are the ones where you get to come in with your own ideas and change stuff around. And, you know, there's something about having an experience, right? So you work with an actor like Leo for me. He's been around for a while. So I know we can move, you know, I look will mean something. something, you know, if he wants to go again, I'll get out of the way, so he goes again, you know.

Starting point is 01:17:20 So there's that, and that helps a lot sometimes. But we had the experience of working with a lot of non-actors in this film, and it was kind of funny because I think that helped Leo myself, bringing the energy and getting these non-actors to get behind us and believe what we're trying to make them believe. And it was really funny. They jumped right in line, you know. they didn't came in and it and it set the tempo for leon myself that we were both like you know part of a team yeah you know you guys ever gone off script and had a director looking at it's like come here son

Starting point is 01:17:53 come over here oh yeah yeah don't ever do that with the football ever again oh yeah oh yeah i had a director once come up to me and and say don't ever take off an article of clothing while you're talking what's that i guess for the sound oh for the sound oh for the sound is the mics does it mics audio guys yeah well i don't know but he was like wow what the hell do you guys have like a a welcome to acting like we ask athletes this and it's kind of like when you first start get started like i i was playing with michael vick and i grew up watching michael vick and it was just like a holy shit moment for me that i'm actually playing football with this guy when you guys first got going like were there any holy shit i'm on set with x or i'm doing a movie here

Starting point is 01:18:40 or I'm a part of something? Like, what were your guys kind of holy shit moments for acting? Like, holy shit in a positive way? Or like a holy shit? It could be either. It's true. Whatever stands out.

Starting point is 01:18:49 You could be either. I had some negative ones too. I probably had more negative ones than I had positive ones. I remember auditioning when I was very young. I was like a child actor. My stepbrother was an actor. And there were these acting agents that would line you up like cattle. And they just go, and I was a break dance.

Starting point is 01:19:08 I'd breakdance for like money on. the streets sometimes. So I'd like the step haircut. Oh, let's go. Let's go. It was like, yes, yes, no. And they look at me, no. And then a yes, yes, yes. And they all got agents. And I remember saying my dad, this is horrible. I went back and they did it again. Yes, yes. No. And I just remember my dad saying, you know, someday you're going to have your time, son, just keep at it, keep at it. And then, you know, I got to do. Oh, and then another thing that was funny, I first got my, uh, these aren't holy shit. I'm just thinking about my whole. This is great. This is holy shit. To me, this is holy shit for those ages those agents right now like what the fuck were we thinking

Starting point is 01:19:44 yeah and then they gave me my remember your first photos that you oh yeah headshots yeah and they said your name is too i finally got an agent they said your name is too ethnic i go what do you mean it's leonardi cabby they go no too ethnic they're never going to hire your new name is lenny williams i said what is what is lenny i said what is lenny williams we took your middle name and we made it now you're Lenny and my dad saw his photo ripped it up and he said

Starting point is 01:20:13 over my dead body and I said Benny Dell Benny Dell Mr. Dell Yeah Oh my gosh Lenny Williams

Starting point is 01:20:26 Benny Del let's go This podcast would not be the same with Lenny Williams and Benny Dell I tell you that right now That WWE intro would not sound the same But that moment that you were talking about

Starting point is 01:20:37 of oh shit I remember And it brings us back to one battle was the first time I saw I met Sean Penn. He was that young actor that I was always going. Like, I want to have a, I want to do movies like he does, the type of movies he does. And I think it was, for me with Sean Penn. Yeah. Well, that'd be cool working with him on this one, man. Yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:20:59 I mean, I didn't get to, I've known him. I've been part of his films when he directed. But, you know, he was that, oh, shit, is Sean Penn. My mind was De Niro for the right. Yeah, mine was De Niro that auditioned with De Niro that I had. That's so fucking cool, man. Are there any other career milestones that you guys like are thinking about? Like, I mean, we asked this to like Brad Pitt and ironically enough, he said his, the next thing he would want to, in his like career is to work with Paul Thomas Anderson, which is just like hilarious that he would, now we're talking to you guys making a Paul Thomas Anderson film.

Starting point is 01:21:34 But what is like, yeah, are there any bucket list career items that you guys want to knock off? There's a lot. Yeah. There's a lot. I mean, I'm getting one soon. I'm going to get to work with Scorsese again. And to me, that man is a national treasure. He's the greatest director.

Starting point is 01:21:50 And I just feel so damn lucky to be able to do it, man. Yes. Hey, maybe you can call it for me and say, hey, bring Danny Dell. Benny Dell. I got this guy, Benny Dell. I got this up and coming. You know, Benny Dell, Benny Dell from the Bronx. That does sound like a Scorsese.

Starting point is 01:22:08 He's the actor. Benny Dell. Well, let's get into this last segment, guys, that gets you out of here. We appreciate you guys. We got one more segment called We Gotta Ask. You don't have to answer. You can tell us the fuck off, but we got to ask. You don't have to answer.

Starting point is 01:22:24 This is a sports podcast, so we got to ask, what is your greatest athletic achievements? I mean, he can't compete. I can't. I play basketball in high school, and I got, you know, I play varsity since a freshman. So I got four letters. We're the same.

Starting point is 01:22:44 We're the same. Yeah, yeah. But I don't have your hands, man. I don't have your hands. I'll be in the NBA. Freshman on varsity, baby. Yeah, I never made any varsity anything. Tried to in basketball, but me and my friends are too short.

Starting point is 01:22:59 I say it wasn't any big, big achievement, but we went back to play those varsity guys a few years later. They were destroying us. This is like, you know, a half. court game. Three pointers in our face over and over again. And I just said to my buddy Alex, I said, let's go back with the fundamentals. Let's be Bob Coozy and Jerry West. We started to whistle the Globetrotters theme. I was like, pick and roll, baby. We did that. And we're doing it so obnoxiously. We actually found a way to win this game.

Starting point is 01:23:29 Let's go. Let's go. We were a little bit. It's a lecture, man. Yeah. Pick and roll. Layups. Let's get to the rim, baby. Is there a greatest sporting event you guys have ever seen in person, the favorite sporting event? Kobe, Shaq, Trailblazers, the lob. I think that was to win the Western Conference finals. God, that is an unbelievable. And then I got to be there from Michael Jordan's last shot in Utah Jazz.

Starting point is 01:23:58 That one, whoof. That was, that was incredible. Those are two fucking bangers, man. We had Shaq on, and he said that that was his favorite dunk of all time. I mean, that is the whole stage. The whole stadium just shot up into the air. I remember that. That was an incredible moment, man.

Starting point is 01:24:13 Benicia, anything from you? You know, I'm thinking, yeah, well, I did go to, I think it was 1980, and it was the 60s versus the Lakers, and it was Madge Johnson was the finals. I think it was game four. It's the famous game that Dr. Jay does that shot. No way. The scoop? The scoop. You saw that live?

Starting point is 01:24:33 I was live. No. What? Sitting up there. That's another, oh, man, you guys see some fucking epic games. It comes from the right guy, scoops it under. Yeah, the ream is right there just watching it. Oh, that is now.

Starting point is 01:24:46 So good. It feels like slow motion every time he does it, too, man. He just floats in the air. I think it was May 11th, 1980. Damn, you got the, yeah, I got the day. Well, because I got the, I got the picture of the, of the shot. Yeah, that's pretty cool, man. That's epic, man.

Starting point is 01:25:01 Oh, damn, those are, those are some bangers. What's on your guys's Mount Rushmore of movies? It could be ones. you've been in. It could be one. Travis put himself on his own list of Mount Rushmore of football players. Oh, here comes to brothers. It's a very modest.

Starting point is 01:25:15 He's a very modest man. It's just, I've always wanted to be on Mount Rushmore, okay? Mount Rushmore movies. I got to say, I got to say east of Eden with James Dean. I saw that when I was 14. I got to say taxi driver with De Niro.

Starting point is 01:25:31 Yeah, maybe. Corsese. 2001 Space Odyssey. see what i don't know i feel like we're doing our greatest four of all time i'll just go i'll just go with uh the movie that i saw when i was a kid that really impressed me was papillon popillon steve mcqueen and daston hoffman yeah you've seen that i don't i'm gonna have to put that on the list yeah yeah yeah yeah all right poppy on the list popillon um and then i think um you mentioned uh on the waterfront on the water you know um incredible marlin brando

Starting point is 01:26:04 Marlon Brander. Marlon Branden. That's all we had in here. There we are. Let's go, baby. We kind of heard Leo mentioned that he, he saw a movie and wanted to become an actor for both you guys. Was there ever a specific moment or a specific movie that you guys watched where you knew

Starting point is 01:26:21 that that was like, man, I want to do that one day? I wanted to be an actor very, very young, I remember. I remember being four, five years old. And I'm like, found out you could get an agent and, like, do a profession. And I just started begging my parents, take me at auditions, take me auditions. It was very strange. I used to imitate my parents, crazy friends that would come over to the house and do imitations of them all day and play characters.

Starting point is 01:26:46 And I was like, you could do this for a job. I mean, I don't need to go be an accountant or a travel agent. I can actually do this for a job. And I was kind of like the pusher. I was the stage child. You know, they have like stage parents that are like, you have to go to this. I was like, mom, get me to audition. Rodney. Now. You knew. I knew. I was like, I got to get out of this neighborhood. I got to go.

Starting point is 01:27:10 I love it. I guess for me, you know, I came into acting a little bit later. I came to acting when I was a freshman in college. And I think, I remember seeing Raging Bull. Yeah. And I grew up in San Juan, Puerto Rico. And so, you know, it just reminded me of people I knew, you know, the Italians, you know, the Latin thing. And I just that movie really like, it's just like De Niro and Petchi and Kathy Moriard. I mean, everybody in it. It was so incredible that movie. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:43 Mine was East of Eden, I think. I saw that very young. Rocky was also kind of like, I remember seeing Rocky and doing the egg thing. Oh, yeah. And I was making 10, you know, or nine, you know, just doing the egg thing and puking. Yeah, not as

Starting point is 01:28:00 good as wrong. Not as good. Not as good. Not as good, yeah. once and for all we got to know who's your team who we're rooting for we got all these pictures multiple sports like is there is there a specific one we're going for you know it's funny uh absolutely not no team no loyalty no loyalty no loyalty to anything i'm a lakers fan that's absolutely what i could say but the hats always just wear like oh that's a cool symbol that's a dope hat and i just started doing that my whole life i don't know different college teams different football teams, different basketball teams.

Starting point is 01:28:37 Do you have some favorite ones that are just, because I'm the same way, like Oakland Athletics, the hat. I just love the way it looks. It's just so awesome. Classic. Seattle Supersonics, like that like Jersey and like color combo. I used to love that one. Like, I don't know, what's your favorite you're going with, you think?

Starting point is 01:28:52 I don't know. I like the K.C. I like the Raiders hat. I like the Raiders hat back in the day. But now I just wear L.A. There you go. Yeah. Can't go wrong.

Starting point is 01:29:01 But you had, what do you had? You had a Bulls hat on it on the other day. Like a classic, like an old school bulls? Old Bulls, yeah. Oh, man, that's what I'm talking about. I'm all about the old vintage flat brims from the 90s. Any 90s hockey, basketball or baseball logo, I'm all in on it, man. Kansas City is a good one.

Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah, Kansas City. Yeah, that's a good one. They're not changing that thing any time soon. No, I have a vintage one from the 80s of Kansas City, yeah. football yeah let's go cool come on out the arrowhead yeah i love to go baby i love to yes get this thing rocking for you brother let's go

Starting point is 01:29:41 what's the best note a director has ever given you guys i guess i had a director i think it was oliver stone once i was doing a scene and he comes up to me he goes penetrate penetrate yeah you're staying on the on the three point line penetrate bring it in get in there yeah

Starting point is 01:30:01 And I thought that was cool. You got to get into the paint, baby. Yeah, I get into the pen, draw foul. Get dirty, baby. Yeah, I think when we're talking about, I guess I told a whole bunch of negative oh, wow moments, right? No, no, no. But my big, oh, wow moment was being able to do a film with De Niro called This Boy's

Starting point is 01:30:18 Life. I was 16 years old. That was like my, I can't believe I'm on set from coming from television doing this great show called Growing Pains, but then, damn, you're on a set with Robert De Niro, you know? Yeah, the seriousness, the focus. just the whole the way i remember walking the whole set went quiet i'm like what's everyone's so nervous about i'm like jesus christ let's joke around here i was like you know and then to watch this guy's focus and i remember i had like a scene with him where i needed to like

Starting point is 01:30:45 step up and i remember the director saying watch him goes pain is temporary film is forever pain is temporary films forever i was like got it that was like the note that i was that hit me the hardest leo i got to ask one of my favorite movies of all it's You've been asked this a thousand times, but I've got to ask one of my favorite movies of all time is Shether Island. Oh, cool. Do you absolutely, does he know? Does he know what's happening at the end?

Starting point is 01:31:12 You know, I think Scorsese wanted that to be open-ended. I got my answer. Yeah. I got my answer. I'll tell you what my answer is. My answer is he couldn't deal with the pain of what had happened to him. And he decides to go in and sort of end, end the. pain you know he couldn't deal with it he has that look back at the end of it where it's like

Starting point is 01:31:35 yeah he knows what's happening that was my answer but you know these directors don't like to keep it obscure speaking of open courts we got one last question for you guys we get asked all the time jason was a former linebacker turned offensive center i was a ex-quarterback turned tight end um we got asked all the time what it would have been like uh if we would have switched positions or if we didn't switch positions so we wanted to ask ask you guys if you could act in one role that the other person had started, who would you want to be, you think? Damn. That's a good question.

Starting point is 01:32:12 Yeah. I mean, Sakaria was, that would have been a call for the day. Traffic was amazing, but Sakaria, that guy was Vegas. I like to watch that. I like to watch that. I like to watch that. Kill you, kill him in front of his family. that shit on that ass I would say um wolf of wall street oh yeah

Starting point is 01:32:35 there we go good answers man good answer yeah yeah the breakdance yeah part of the breakdance it finally came back gosh that's amazing dudes thank you so much for this this was a fucking blast man thank you for your time thank you guys thank you guys for blessing us with this movie this movie is so badass cannot wait to see how the world reacts to this thing. But I've got to go see in the theaters too. You've got to tell me to go see in the theaters,

Starting point is 01:33:02 man. Oh, yeah. In theaters, don't wait for this thing to come out and watch it from your living room. Get the true experience this Friday, September 26th, check it right now. One battle after another,

Starting point is 01:33:13 Leonardo DiCapio, Benicio del Toro. Thank you so much, guys. You guys, you guys. That's amazing. Thank you. Thank you to Leonardo de Camprio and Benicio del Toro. One battle after another is now in theaters. This Friday,

Starting point is 01:33:26 Go to the theaters and see it. I'm telling you, you are not going to be disappointed. Oh, Lenny Williams and Benny Dell, baby. Benny Dell and Lenny Williams. We watched it not in theaters just to kind of get a little preview for it. So you go watching the theaters. Be a fucking, come on. Support the movies.

Starting point is 01:33:45 Support your local theater. Hell yeah, man. It's the, it's the best, dude. Get some popcorn and milk duds. Get some cavities. Where are you going to get cavities if you don't go to the movie theater? What do we do it? That wraps up another episode of New Heights.

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Starting point is 01:34:54 Yeah, baby. are you freaking out you're freaking out you're freaking out i don't know i don't know what it is those guys were fucking amazing they're cool man i fucking love cool they thought you were cool they said we were cool they said no they said they said it i think they're just pros i think there's just pros they do that every single In times, they get good reviews. They get, oh, if we say they're cool, they're like, oh, my God, I thought it was cool. But they're going to like this, but they don't know that I already love them.

Starting point is 01:35:27 They didn't know that. I was talking to some incredible actors that I have no business talking to. Well, no, no fucking business. I just feel like every time I'm interviewing. What? Somebody like Leo or Brad or. What makes a good actor? Yeah, I just feel like Chris Farley in those like SNL scenes where they come play.

Starting point is 01:35:45 So, remember? And I want to bring. up all of these like career achievements while we're talking to them we're also trying to be i mean the movie that's coming out friday is going to be spectacular but i also want to ask about like all these other movies and things and it's like how do i do this without sounding just like the biggest fanboy of all time and dude's sometimes i just got a fan boy it up man

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