New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Chiefs Take a Step Back, Jason Does Disney, Wild NFL Trades, World Series Haters and Midseason Meme Awards | EP 163

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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Who is your favorite Disney character, Jason? Is it goofy? I mean, definitely goofy growing up. I felt for Pluto's charm a little bit. Is Pluto again? Pluto is the dog, which Goofy's a dog as well, but Pluto's like the one that's actually a dog. Like, goofy's a dog, but maneuvers and talks like a human, albeit a kind of like Craig Parmentorish

human, like not, it's got a little bit of goofiness to him. You know what I mean? Exactly what I mean. Pluto's more of just like a dog dog. Pluto doesn't talk, goofy is a dog. maneuver as like a dog. Goofy does talk, but it's also a dog. Maneuvers like a human.

Donald Duck's a good, solid one. Despicable. No, you're thinking a Daffy Duck. What's the difference? Well, Daffy Duck is Warner Brothers, which is not Disney-owned property. Yeah, no, never mind them. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a Wondry Show, brought to you by Audible. We are your host.

I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, at a University of Cincinnati. Natty and dang damn it. Yeah. The Utah youths got us, man. I thought we had a good chance. We got it going. Couldn't get it going.

God damn it. Yeah. Defense could stop, man. I'll tell you what, man. When their offense gets rolling, man, got to go all the way West Coast, play it like midnight East Coast time. Yeah, it was a tough run. But shout out to Utah.

And shout out to McAfee and ESPN. College Game Day, man. That was a fun one. McAfee and the gang. A lot of them gave us a shout out over here. on New Heights. Let's hear this. I want to hear what this is. I'd like to reiterate some of your points. Like, hey, you got really good wood too. You know what I mean? But the greatest wood comes from New Heights. And that's a Cincinnati working through and through. He's like a

walking. Jason Kelsey. You talked about the absolute dogs from Ohio. How does he fucking do it? It's off the cuff too. It's unbelievable. It has to be. They don't script any of this stuff. I don't. It's just amazing. He can just go. Dude, he's the best, man. He's the best. The guy's got crazy talent, man. But we're moving on, baby. game, Yutes. Arizona, you're up next, baby. Let's go, cats. Get back on the, get back on the wind train, baby. Subscribe on YouTube, 100, plus wherever you get your podcast of all the show and all social media at new I'd show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, tell the people what we got coming up. 92% is we got an amazing episode lined up for you today. We're going to get

into a little recap of the Chiefs Bill's game, unfortunately, for Travis. And then we're also going to get into a little bit of trade deadline moves. We're midpoint now. The end of maybe hand out some awards that mean nothing to anybody other than people that watch this show, you 92 percenters, this is all for you guys. And then we're going to check in on the Heights hotline. We've been having a lot of guests, which is always fun and interesting to talk to people who have achieved great success in this world, far outreaching things that I could ever do, maybe not Travis.

But we're going to listen to some of your voicemails and answer those. And to be honest, that's some of my favorite things we do on the show. So before we get into any of that, though, we're going to get into a little bit of that new news. New news. All right. Now, let's get it out of the way. Jason, you're out of the house today. You're not in Philadelphia.

This is correct. Pennsylvania. You are, um, I'm in Orlando. I'm down by our mother, Travis. Nice. You're in Florida. Floridia. Florida.

Is that the right? Is that the right? Yeah, no, it's great. No invite for the rest of us. Thanks, Jason. I mean, Travis, it's difficult for me to maneuver around Disney Road. I could not. fucking imagine you trying to do this

right now. Dude, I just put on a goofy mask and keep it moving. They don't, I don't think they have masks. They do have goofy hats. You're not allowed to wear masks? I mean, I think, since COVID, I think anything flies with the masks. I did go masked one time to a Phillies game so I could sit in the outfield, so I didn't have to sit in a

box. How'd that go? Didn't last long. I got picked out real quick. Yeah, you did. Something about the face. It's like the shape of the face. You could just do but like a shadow of your face and people would be like, Jason. Is that a Japanese maple walk in my eyes?

I think I've seen that, though. That's lovely, man. What's been the most exciting so far? I mean, seeing the girls react to all the characters because they're still young and why it's starting to get old enough where you can see, she's starting to ask questions. Or like, she meets Ariel, she can't wait to meet Ariel. And the entire time, she's just staring at Ariel's Finn and she's kind of like, like she's in her head, I think she knows.

And like she's petting Pluto and she's like, that doesn't feel like a dog. And then going on the ride, any ride I can talk to girls into going on, which is very hard. Here's what's hard. Kylie's family is not ride people. Kylie's not a ride person. So the girls, I think, are, that rubs off on them a little bit. They're a little bit more skittish because mom's not a ride person. So whenever I'm trying to talk him into it.

And then I'm an idiot. it so I talked them into a ride and then it's like immediately like regret right like you get on the teapots and the teapots spin and I'm like you want to go in the teapots thing no no no and I was like and she's like I don't like that it spins I was like we won't spin it dad will make sure that it doesn't spin and in my head of course I'm like she'll get going to spin it a little bit and then she'll realize she's having fun because that was big ed that was our big ed's method of everything yeah talk you into doing it lie to you that you're not going to do it then start doing then you're like you know what

actually dad this is a good idea i like what you're doing here it doesn't work on my kids my kids immediately no i start spinning that thing and why it starts losing her fucking mind and then i'm trying to just hold it and she's still not having fun but now she was she actually liked the teacups teacups she liked any of the stuff where you're just like basically a like a moving story whether you're like peter pan or what is it a small world they could do that all day and then every once in a while dad he'll sneak off and do space mountain we did tron i missed animal

kingdom yesterday because I was at Monday night football so unfortunately didn't get to see that I did get to get to eat a turkey leg while watching the parade go by and I was just baby in this arm turkey leg in this arm waving to the creatures with my turkey leg I felt like a Neanderthal like in the most glorious fashion so yeah we've been having a blast kids are just complete chaos I'm in a full fight with Wyatt over a fucking waffle ruins about it 30 minutes of our entire day because she wants a whole waffle and I'm trying to explain to her

that there's only four waffles and there's like fucking 15 people so just take a piece of the waffle and she's like getting furious and I'm like listen I'm not I'm putting my foot down on this you're gonna get another fucking free waffle I'm not giving you a whole fucking waffle

we can't get her a whole waffle and then Kyle is like just give her the waffle what are you doing I'm like no I'm not I'm not raising some spoiled little fucking rotten child she's getting hurt she's sharing Kylie actually at my back so it was good uh way to team up guy and she cried she had a full meltdown thankfully

thankfully um snow white came in with no no no it wasn't snow white you know who came in and saved the day jack sparrow jack sparrow jack sparrow saved the fucking day whoever was being jack sparrow was like the best version of jack sparrow in the morning too he nailed it absolutely killed it and then uh from there why it was in a better mood and then she found out that we were getting bignets from Princess Tiana's area. And it's like, but we're going to share the bignets, right? And she's like, yes, I'll share the bignets. So I'm like, you know what?

We're back. We're fucking back. He got some bougie-ass kids, man. Not man. Ben-Jays. Travis, it's Disney World. You're experiencing culture. If you've been to Epcot, it's basically the most cultured place on the planet.

I was going around the world. Is there alcohol served? Not at Magic Kingdom, which is where we've been in the last couple of days. Animal Kingdom does have, and I found this out from Dan Arlovsky. Shout out to Dan Arlowski. The Daewa bar, the jungle juice, is very good. An Animal Kingdom. If you're an alcoholic beverage drinker, Epcon is your place. Tons of it. I think we're going today. Can't wait to partake. Magic Kingdom, I think you've got to go to like an actual restaurant, sit-down restaurant in the park to get an alcoholic beverage, which I think it's probably right.

Magic Kingdom doesn't need alcohol being served. This is like the land of like children. Fucking creatures all over the place. We don't need drunk dads at Magic Kingdom. Epcot, we can kind of finagle it. You can figure it out. We don't need a Jason versus Jackson. Don't get too drunk at Epcot, but you can get, you can get buzzed. We don't need buzz people walking around Magic Kingdom.

This is a place of children, sir. That makes sense. Yeah. All right. Well, that wraps it up for new news. Let's move on. All right. Bold topics to wrap up week nine in the NFL.

Let's start with the one you can't wait to talk about Trab. Chiefs 21, Bills, 28. All right, Traff, four losses. Man. What are we thinking? What are the initial thoughts from the game? Where are we at? I mean, obviously, it's the bye week, so I'm kind of looking at everything.

Like, I've taken a step back and kind of looked at the whole scheme of things, and it's frustrating, man. I mean, five and four, a little over 500 right now out of the playoffs, if the playoffs started right now, we've got to get this shit going, man. And the schedule doesn't get much easier. Our next three opponents are absolutely on four. fire, two in which are the Broncos who we have coming up after the buy and then the Colts after that. So we're, we got to get things rolling, man. And we got banged up on the offensive line and this and that. But at the same time, man, we got the players that we need, man. Even if it's the next man up mentality, we still got the guys that can get the job done, man. We just have

to keep fucking figuring it out. This one was a tough one, though, man. Going up to Buffalo is not an easy thing man that that stadium was rocking that place was electric shut out to all the bills mafia that was talking all the shit in the world i love it um and it's just you know it's a it's a it's a sacred place to play a football game man and i cherish every game that i get an opportunity to go up there but that shit sucks when you when you when you don't come away with the victory out there because they let you have it man and it's um it's frustrating it's frustrating especially when you think that you know it's you put it on yourself i i'm i'm looking at this score right here 21, 28, and if I find a way to get my head and hands around on the pass

that pat through me in the end zone right before half, I feel like we have a better chance at getting a field goal there late instead of a touchdown. That was going to be a tough catch. I hear you. Here's the reality. That play before half, we got to be able to push that thing in. They got two-tush. We need to get the tush push down, and we need Noah Gray or somebody over there to get the tush-push

down that's how they scored every time they got to the one yard line Josh Allen tush push in Philadelphia Eagles that's how we score every time we get to the one yard line you can't go into half time only getting three points because you don't fucking got a tush push in the goddamn play and I get that Pat can't do the tush push because he's got funky knees we got to have somebody doing the tush push god damn it yeah or we just you know strike with low leverage you know head and hands run the feet and give the ball to kareem hunt who's one of the best right now at short-yarded situations.

I was going to say, I did actually see that Kareem Hunt had a higher rate than the tush-push league-wide in short-yarded situation so far this season. I don't know if that's true this past week. I guess he did get in there later in the game on the one, really short one. It took a couple, but he got in there. I honestly think that halftime, only getting three points there, was one of the biggest, like, points in the game. Because if you go into halftime, sneaking out a touchdown there,

to end it, that's such a difference in kind of where you go. I mean, you would have been down 1714 at that point. I know you had a lot of other game left. All I'm thinking of is that last drive. Like, now we're throwing a Hail Mary instead of trying to kick a field goal to tie it. For sure. It changes it completely. Listen, the bills were really good on offense,

uncharacteristic game for the Chiefs defense in terms of rushing the football, especially. Like, that's one thing that, like, Spags is very good at. That defense holds her hat on is shutting down the run. and making teams one-dimensional. They did a great job against the Detroit Lions, one of the best rushing teams in the NFL. The bills have done a great job the last two weeks. Josh played his tail off.

He did. He had three incompletions. McCain had a great game. Yeah. The bills played a phenomenal game in all phases. Offensively, they played well. They ran the ball well. Josh played great through the ball extremely efficiently.

And then defensively, McDermen had a good plan coming into it, and their players executed. I mean, they got pressure on Pat. Joey Bosa had a great game. They kept running the pop son on the tackles, but it was a unique way where the backer would kind of like come over late, so it wouldn't feel like it was a game, and then the guard wasn't really getting it on top of the tackle. That got home a couple times. I got pressure on Pat. And then I think whenever teams can get pressure on the quarterback

rushing four, it's really hard offensively to have production, especially when you're in third and long situations or you know you're you're in a fourth down got to have it if they can maximize coverage while only having a rush four it's hard and they execute in that area yeah the biggest thing was third and longs we got to get out of third and longs and you know it's it's all right if you have a few of them but you when you have over a handful of them you've got like five or six third and eight third and ten plus like you're making your day way harder I got to give a shout out, too, to Colbishop. He made a bunch of, like, really good plays in that game for Buffalo.

I feel like when you're in those soft zones, what you've seen Pat a lot of the times do is you go to worthy underneath on some of these jet sweep things. He does that thing where he catches the ball, and it's out of his hand quick. And he was, they were playing these soft zones, but he was playing aggressive underneath those and really jumping a lot of that, which allowed them to kind of do both. it felt like. I thought it was a real, you could tell that he was prepared coming into it,

made a lot of good plays. And I think 100% to echo what you're saying. Staying out of third and long makes a big difference. Yeah. And when it is third and long, it's already hard to pass block. And I mean, you guys got, when you got guys like Joey Bosa

and schematic things that I think Buffalo was doing a really good job of up front to create pressure, just makes it hard. Treb, speaking of Cole Bishop, how you feeling after the hit? It knocked the wind. I caught me.

I got kind of sandwiched in there. I haven't had the wind docked out of me in a while. That's a fucking annoying one. You know you're okay, but you got to just kind of, uh, no, it's coming back. It'll come back. It'll come back.

I can breathe in a second. No, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. I'm fucking love football. God damn it's the best. Go into the blue tent. You got your wind knocked out. What?

Why am I in the blue tent? Why do I go into the, no, it was at halftime. And then I got like. You got evaluated in the locker room? Yeah. to get evaluated in the locker room. I'm just sitting.

I'm like, why, what is this? Why is this? What day is it? Fucking Sunday. What is what? It's Saturday.

Get me the fuck out of here. Before a concussion or after a concussion. I don't know who we played last week. We're in week nine. Are you kidding me? This, you're going to make me sit here and fucking, who did we play last week?

The commanders. There we did. We played the Commanders. Oh, gosh. The concussion, like, testing is kind of, like, funny. I do enjoy, like, baseline testing. Because, like, the first time you do it, it's a surprise. And they, like, give you, like, the four words at the beginning.

And you don't know they're going to come back at the end of the test and recite the same words. But then every time after that, that trick doesn't work. Like, you go into it. It's like, yeah, I'm going to need to remember these. All right. I'm going to think about these, the entire test. Yeah. And then at the end, I'm like, A.

that motherfucker and actually it's going to be really hard to come back from this concussion protocol now. Exactly. Yeah, you can't, that's the thing. You got to make the baseline test,

literally the baseline. You can't do. I don't remember. You gave me words at the beginning of this test. Oh, shit. Yeah. Anyways,

Chiefs also are headed into the buy as you just stated a little bit of go trav. I know you guys just lost, but you lost to probably the other, one of the other frontriders in the AFC. in a tight game at their place. Just a week ago, the Chiefs were everybody's darling again in the NFL. Now the Bills win, and it's kind of changed.

But I think everybody still is of the opinion that the Chiefs are playing really good football right now. I know you're going into buy a little bit sour from the Bills game, but you've got to feel pretty good with where the team's at. I feel good about it because I know the characters that we have in the room. Right. I know the guys that we have there, and we're going to come back, recharge, and ready to rock and roll. And I can't say that I'm not frustrated more from the entire start of the season than just this Bill's game.

I mean, there's games that I don't think we had any business losing. I feel like we didn't come out with our best punch against Buffalo. And we got to find a way to clean all that up, man. We got to get back to playing passionate cheese football dying for each other out there on the field, man. And whatever that takes during the week to get yourself ready on Sundays, man. And even on a short week, it doesn't matter. No excuse. We got a few games ahead of us where we're going to be,

where we're going to have short weeks. Yeah. I think there's a stint around Christmas where we have like back-to-back short weeks. Yeah, this has been the motto of the Chiefs. When you win a bunch of games, you play games on odd days. Yeah. But, yeah, I think, yeah, you guys are rolling right now. You get Josh Simmons back.

That'll be good for the offensive line. Hopefully. Just get my guy back in the best. build it man yeah i miss my guy point then um now you guys are two games back of denver you have a chance to move closer to that right after the by week do you guys think about at all about home field advantage in the playoffs or any of that stuff or you just want to get one week at a time at this point it's got to be one week at a time you can't be thinking about trying to get home field this home field that obviously you set goals out in the beginning of this season to win the division

win the conference get that home field advantage make everyone have to come through Arrowhead, but right now it's just not that. And I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking about how the fuck are we going to beat the Denver Broncos? And that's going to be on my mind for the next two weeks. Well, for the next week, at least take your mind a little bit else. Are you doing anything fun? You're going to get

into travel? What are you doing here? What are you doing over the week? Tell us about your personal life? No. No chance. Okay. See, guys. Last thing, the bills are the actual kings of the tush push. I hate that you guys put this in there and said that, but

But one of the things that was fucking crazy to me watching is just like, every time I watch the Eagles play and they do a tush push, it's like a complete meltdown on social media to like the endth degree of like it shouldn't be allowed. It's unfair. They cheat, all this stuff. I watch the bills do it. It's like celebrated. Everybody's like happy about I don't see one fucking person talking about the problem with officiating it or anything. Everybody's just like, oh, what a great play by the bills. really smart heads-up play by his buddy to push him in there.

And it's like, yeah, thanks, guys. I agree. Yeah, man, it's, I mean, I feel like the Eagles just, they get away with more on the touch push. Everyone else kind of just plays it, plays it fair. It plays it much more fair. Nobody else is trying to exploit the rules of it. The officials, for some reason, just officiate it much better on all the other ones where there's not.

nobody even questioned the touchdown. They're on pins and needles when the Eagles touched. If Jalen Hertz would have been granted a touchdown when Josh got that one granted, it would have been insane. People would have been, they're just going to give him that touchdown. We got to ban it. We got to get rid of it. Josh Allen scoring what is the most rushing touchdowns ever by a quarterback?

I mean, that could be celebrated. Yeah, I'm pro-tush push. I think everybody should be pro-tush push, but everybody's not. It sounds like you're kind of sour about all the other teams. I am sour that the Eagles face a lot of criticism for a play. And I hear this all the time. It's hard to officiate. Well, why is it not hard to officiate for the other 31 other teams now that are running a version of this play?

Everybody in the league is running the touch push in some degree now, other than the chiefs, which you guys need to. I'm telling you for your own fucking good you need to. It's a cheat code. Do it while they let you. I'm good. I don't want anything to do with it. Okay, well, I'll let my older brother, I'll let my older brother have the honor of being the tush-push king.

The, um, just running a play action roll out with Patty Mahomes. There you. It's just overall, the false starts and stuff get brought up when the Eagles do it. I watch on Monday night, a short yardage play, the Cardinals run a short yardage play. The guard clearly leaves early. and not a fucking peep about it on social media. And I just like... It's so unfair.

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Eagles. Have the greatest buy week of all time. The commanders, cowboys, packers, lions, giants, all lost. The Eagles won a game without playing a game. They won a week without playing a week. Now a three-game lead in the NFC East. Well, the NFC East is a debacle right now.

Nobody's good. Before the season, I was like, gosh, you know what? That's going to be another fucking tough division. Yeah, well, Washington was in the – I mean, it was – it was the NFC championship game last year in Jaden Daniels's rookie year, and they've been hurt all over the place. Terry McClorn's been hurt. Debo Samu's been out.

Jaden Daniels have been out. Now Jaden's out for a long foreseeable future with the elbow dislocation. And so it's not looking good. Their defense is atrocious. The Cowboys defense is not good. And I don't know what Jerry Jones' move is today. It hasn't been released yet. Apparently, he's doing some type of trade,

although he might have canceled it based on the performance last night from the Cowboys. We'll see what happens. No, they just picked up a linebacker. A linebacker. That'll help out. Who was it? Logan Wilson from the Bengals.

Nice. The NFC East might have three of the worst four or five defenses in the NFL. I mean, the Bengals are the only ones competing right now with the commanders, Cowboys, and Giants. Who else is worse on defense? I don't know. Like, I just, it's bad. It's bad defense of ball right now in the NFC East.

Good if you're the Philadelphia Eagles, giving a lot of locker room material, but whatever. Yeah. Well, the Eagles making moves, as they always do right before the trade deadline. That's right. They acquired Jets, cornerback, Michael Carter the 2nd, Ravens cornerback, Jair, Alexander, who was formerly. a Green Bay Packer, team back up with his old Green Bay defensive backs coach, and Dolphins edge rusher, who was a big, he was a hot commodity during the trade deadline. Jalen Phillips

reunites with Vic Fangio. 92% is remember him as the guy who called me eyebrows. That's who called you eyebrows, nice. Yeah. That's good shit. It was too good to not stop me in my tracks and make me laugh. So he's going to bring a lot to the defense. I mean, the defense, the thing that they've really been missing is the defensive backfield

and depth really at edge position. I think they have good players there. Nolan Smith has been hurt. They lost sweat and Brandon Graham in the offseason. They lose Milton Williams. Now all of a sudden, BG comes out of retirement. Nolan Smith is going to get healthy eventually here. And now we got Jalen Phillips coming in who's been a proven good rusher in this league.

And he's familiar with this system in Vic Fangio. Yeah. I think it's a no-brainer. It feels like it's going to make a big difference to the depth of the defense line as well as getting pressure on the quarterback. I wanted to ask you. So Michael Carter gets paid by the Jets. He's renowned as one of the best nickelbacks in the NFL.

Supposedly, his game is kind of tailed off a little bit because of injury in recent years. And then Jaira L'Ira, Alexander, who at one point was considered one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. And then all of a sudden, in this season, and people have been crushing him, and he just hasn't had the year he's won it. So I wanted to ask you, someone's gone up against both these guys. What is the New Heights take on these guys as players?

Do the Eagles win in these moves, in your opinion? I honestly, I never played Green Bay to the point where I, like, I was guarding, yeah. Well, yeah, hopefully we got, this is the reality. The backfield from, with Quinnian and Cooper is really good. It'll be interesting to see how these new pieces fit in. Michael Carter, as we've said, has been a nickel. We have one of the best nickels in the NFL in Cooper DeGine.

Does he slide out and play outside corner? Does Michael Carter become a starter? Do we start with Jair outside at the cornerback position and keep Cooper inside? It's going to be interesting to see how Vic utilizes these new pieces, but it does bring a level of competition. talented players who have been really good in this league before in the building, which I think in general, hopefully will improve the backfill for the use. That's what you want to run to make a run, though.

You know what I mean? You want guys that are experienced that understand defense, you know, recognition can get lined up at least and not be scared of the moment. I think that's what you guys got for sure. And I think, um... Not necessarily scared, but don't let the moment get too big. It also just reemphasizes the team's idea on how competitive we are right now. You don't go out and make all these moves.

Yeah, it makes them every year. Howie might have been the only person with a busier phone than Adam Schefter this weekend. Making three moves at the trade deadline? It's pretty... Did you guys lose anybody or you guys just trading picks? I think this is all picks. Jalen Phillips was a third round pick, but I don't think we gave up players, if I'm not mistaken. He could be even brewing up something else.

and the rest of the league could be brewing something else. It's only Tuesday morning, like we said, the trade deadline isn't until later today. I will say I'm giving the Cowboys defense a lot of crap. I do think, like, Iber Fluse's scheme, you need to have really good linebackers if you're going to run this, like, cover two shell. And that's why they went out and got Wilson.

If you're going to run, if you want to run cover two, if you want to run play with two safeties back, you have to have great linebackers, and you have to have some guys on the D-line that can get after. You've got to have six guys that can stop the run and get after the passer in the box. One thousand percent. Hopefully this guy gets them closer to that for the Cowboys' sake. For the ego's sake, I hope he doesn't work out at all.

All right. Now that does it for the trade deadline. Jason, let's get into the rest of week, whatever it is. Okay, we're officially at the halfway point of the NFL season. Let's hand out some halfway point awards. That's a weird way to say that. Halfway Point Award. We based all the categories on memes.

For the player or a team that isn't getting talked about enough, we're handing out the I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your game award. There's a lot of people that can win this one. That's the thing about the NFL season, man, is somebody could get hot right now. Somebody could just, a team could just like mesh. And a team can get an injury and then all of a sudden be buns.

I mean, look at the Ravens first half of the year. lose two games early on, get decimated with injuries, and all of a sudden, they're back to compete. So who do you think is a, you know, was not given enough credit? I mean, obviously the Colts are probably the biggest thing, Daniel Jones, I would say. But the sneaky one. A little bit of let down this past week. But another one's a sneaky one, man.

Sam Darnold up there in Seattle. Seattle's all the way the fuck up there, that Northwest, man. And they just don't get talked about enough. They don't get talked about it all. That team is fucking physical. They have a number one. in that wide receiver room yeah that dude jack jack jackson and jangba bro what yes that dude is fucking nasty he's crazy routes yes he's he's he's pissing everybody off that plays him he's a

fucking problem um and then their run game is fucking downhill it's coming at you and that's given sam darnal a lot of time back there man yeah they're running that kubiq system They're running that Kubiak system very well. Clint Kubiak is, I mean, it feels like the same thing as when I was watching Houston with Aryan Foster and all those guys. I mean, it's the run and play action marries up very well. And Donald is fantastic this year. I mean, everybody, it's crazy that one playoff game. Everybody had already come back around to Sam Donald being a good quarterback.

Then he has one absolutely terrible, like a couple games to the end of the season. And then everybody was like, oh, yeah, I guess San Donald actually does suck. And then he's out there again, and he's like, he's like first or second in QBR through the first half of the season. Like he's balling out. And yeah, it helps to have JSN this year, just like it helped to have freaking Justin Jefferson last year. But Sam Darnold is slinging it. Leonard Williams, the guys they got up front on defense, they have some players in Seattle. NSY West is going to be an interesting one because I think the Rams have also, they could

very easily. I mean, you take away a blocked field goal and a fourth down conversion and they haven't lost a game this year. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? You could just fucking pull out two plays at the end of a game. And it's like, that's how close victory is in this fucking league,

man. So I'm with you. I think Seattle and Darnold got to be the I owe you an apology. And I think everybody kind of owes Darnold an apology. All right. For the veteran that is still balling out, it's the Unk Still got it.

Oh, I'm not familiar with this meme. What's this meme? Can I see this one? I still got it. It's impressive that Unk ever had that. Ah, that boy going crazy. Ong still got it. How do you even find out that you could do that?

Unk is traditionally an older player. Got to be an older player. Got to be an older player balling out. Yep. I feel like Stafford is the obvious choice because he's, I mean, he might be, he's definitely up there in contention for MVP through the first half of the season. but I feel like nobody thought Stafford didn't have it. Like everybody kind of knew Stafford's a great quarterback.

Are you kidding? Yeah, Stafford's unbelievable. So for Unk still got it. I feel like it's got to be. It's got to be one of the oldest players in the league. It's got to be Flacko, right? Got to be Flacko. Nobody expected him to go out there and throw for 470 on a team that he was only, he's only been on for like two weeks.

Yeah. The most by a 40-plus year old quarterback in the regular season, The only 40-year-old quarterback who was thrown for more was Tom Brady and Super Bowl 52. Yeah, I remember that one. That was a wild one. That was a fun game. For the team that is getting healthy at the right time, we're calling this the call the ambulance, but not for me. I don't know this one.

Am I just not plugged in on these memes? No, I don't know this one. I knew the last one, but I don't know this one. Hopefully the younger audience gets this one. All right, we got Ravens, Tampa Bay 49ers. I don't, the thing with the 49ers is, are they even getting healthy? I feel like a lot of the guys they've lost are freaking out. Yeah, that shit sucks.

I think they got kittled back last week or two weeks ago. I guess, do they even want Prok period to come back at this point? Mac Jones has been bawling out. The way Mac Jones has been balling, man. That's a tough decision because you paid Purdy a lot of money. And they ain't like Purdy was playing bad. It's just Mac Jones has really played well in his time. That's tough, man.

It's tough. I mean, I still feel like. Tampa Bay is the real deal. And once they get healthy, I think they're going to be competitive. I think Baker is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. They've kind of been injured to this point, and they're still one of the top teams in the NFC. Ravens, I mean, those are two good options. All three of these are really good options.

I'm going to go Tampa Bay. I'm going to keep on the Baker love train. Yeah, keep it in the NFC. Yeah. For the team or player, we can't really explain, but it gets the kids going. the 6-7 award nice it's a good one that's a good one you know about this one it's just supposed to mean like it's okay but then at the same time nobody really knows everybody just kind of says it now whenever it's just like a six seven yeah all right whatever um

who's got the juice it's got to be jackson dart right he's gone in and played really well i love the energy and effort and excitement that he's had on the game day but it doesn't feel like it's like uh it's not all there yet There's still a few pieces away up there in New York. And that's the perfect for the team or player we can't really explain but gets the kids going. And this, I mean, he gets ever, the, the Jackson Dark Scataboo, really Scataboo was the. Yeah, but without Scadaboo, is it there still? Ah, man.

Broncos are another good choice. I don't know how you feel about it, but the Broncos' defenses lights out. Bo Nix is only good when his team is losing for some reason. Bro, the guy, when it comes down to it, listen, the guy just needs pressure. He needs pressure. He needs to be like, oh, shit, shit's fucking hitting the fan. I got to fucking make a play. Exactly.

And he does. It's crazy. And he does every time. Yeah. I've seen it firsthand. Last year, he tried to pull off like a second half like downfield lateral. Yeah. I don't know if you remember this.

Bro. And I was like, bro, he's out there doing this shit with the fucking game on the line, man. Fuck. Do you want to name the Broncos the 6-7 award, or is that feeling too close? I think it's either Drake May or Scatibo. I just feel like Drake May is above. Drake May is a 10. You can't give him a 6-7 award.

This dude is bawling out right now. 6-7 to me is not bawling out. 6-7 is like you're having a moment. You're playing well, but you're not like the best. I thought it just kind of got the kids going for some reason. I saw a video of Drake May and his tackle. They're at the Boston Celtics game and they put Drake May up on the screen on the floor and everybody's going crazy and there's a Boston Celtics kid like a fan in the stands that had a I love Drake May shirt on and he was going fucking nuts. I mean, it definitely gets the kids going.

I just don't think that that's what Six-seven is. I don't. Yeah, Drake May. Sure. Yeah, you fucking crushed it, Jason. Thanks for solid. That bit. Thank you.

You leaned in. Thank you so much. She didn't just leave that out to dry. Fuck. That was great. Sold it. Do you think I know what 6-7 means? I don't fucking know.

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Nominees. Yeah, who you going with, Big Eye? Well, we got nominees. nominees, the owl that attacked Brian Schaenheimer. I did not see this. He was attacked? That's hilarious. That's so that's not Photoshop.

There was actually an owl in his house. Charles, you remember when there was a bat in our house growing up? A bat? There was a bat one year and then there was a bird. I just remember the bird. I don't remember the bat. We had a bat one year and a bird another year. Those didn't fare too well over at the Kelsey household.

Well, Flash. Flash was a badass. She had rid of a lot of that stuff. She wasn't fucking around. We found dead birds all the time. Dead birds, mice. Yep. You name it.

Like little gifts. All right. Arch Manning. Clearly, uh, intern. Brandon put that in there. Baseball. We're going to stamp baseball for what? Listen, just because the Phillies didn't make it,

it doesn't mean the World Series wasn't absolutely epic. That was the awesome seven games of fucking baseball, man. It was back and forth. Every team was, both teams had their, had their shining moments. Blue Jays are up all games. going into the eighth inning. So you're telling me, I'm supposed to get excited about a Canadian baseball team

and a team that just spends more money than everybody else. Who the fuck cares about? Both of them. Both of them spend more money than everybody. So it's the baseball. Well, yeah, that's why baseball sucks. That's why baseball is.

He is by World Series championship. It's the dumbest thing in the world. It's exciting. It's exciting that the team that spent the most money and everybody knew was going to win the World Series, won the World Series. It was an unexpected person that won it for him. Everybody knew the team.

This is going to happen before the season. We just had a bunch of meaningless shit happen before it, and then it happened. And on top of that, you still got to go do it. I'm not, yeah, well, they did. Yeah, they did it. So, yeah, no, baseball, not getting my stamp. Baseball will get a stamp if it adds a salary cap and starts making people actually having to win championships on merit rather than just spending a much of money on Japanese phenoms.

But it is fun when one of those teams with merit find a way to get the win, you know? They don't have merit, Travis. They have merit solely because they paid for it. One of the teams that don't pay for it, find a way. They did. That's why I always have fun. The blue jays are high in the payroll as well. That's what I'm saying.

No, I'm saying this year wasn't it. When has it been it? When the guards went to the World Series? Did they win? Unfortunately, no. Yeah. Oklahoma kicker, Tate, Sandell. As a coach, get off the field, son.

Go put pants on or you're not playing for me. I don't think this should be allowed. Kicking is already too easy. Why the fuck is this dude? Why am I seeing VMOs? I see his goddamn quad muscle. I don't want to see this. I don't want to see Daisy Dukes on the football field.

Just put the fucking pads on. His fucking VMOs. His helmet that looks like he's from the Little Giants. Cam Little sets the record for a field goal. I mean, it's impressive. He fucking kicked a field goal that was snapped at the 50 yard line. That's fucking insane. Yeah, that's crazy.

I'm going to go with my guy, Brock Bowers. Man, I love giving tight ends the love. Brock has been injured. He's been banged up all year. He comes back and man alive. Two fucking great touchdown grabs as well as 133 through the air, man. Actually, three touchdown grabs, I should say, but two of them were absolutely electric. One, an option route that he broke off the defender and fucking, man, the guy can fucking roll. I want to know how fast that guy was going on his long touchdown. And then the back shoulder, one-handed grab where he landed on his back in the end zone, man. Rocky B.

Rocky B. Give my stamp of the week, brother. Stamp of them. I mean, it's a bad stamp of them. I already gave my Hemi Award on Monday night to Sam Darnold. I'll give it to the kicker. Not the one with fucking shorts. I'll give it to the one that made a 68-yard field role in the NFL. I think that's pretty remarkable. I routinely am known to shit on kickers, so I'm going to do the honorable thing and give the award to somebody who set a record. Chicken Little. Kick the 68. yard fuel. Brand new record, well done. And that does it for stamp of the week.

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Wonderful, wonderful. This Hill's Pet Dog right here. As we said, this pet parent edition is brought to you by Hills Pet Nutrition. because while your pets are perfect, you're only human. Ninety-two percenters, we asked you to call in your pet advice questions. So let's take a listen to some of these voicemails right now. Can't wait. So me and my fiance should be husband are thinking of getting another puppy.

We have a dog who's three right now. But with just like, you know, 95 job, we're just wondering, is there really any good time to get, like, a puppy? Like, do we just kind of pull a church? with it because there are a lot to handle. So if you could just give your advice on if you think that there's really any good time of the year to get a puppy. Any good time of year? I mean, it depends on your setup.

I'll say this. It's not a good time to get a puppy if you're having kids because that is having a puppy trying to potty train that thing while also trying to potty train a human being is a difficult thing to freaking navigate. The dog is now pissing in the urinal. Yeah, pissing shit happened all over the plane. is now pissing outside. Yeah, it's not ideal.

You don't want that. I would say winter, depending on your climate. But winter, typically you want to let the dog outside if it needs to go to the bathroom and going outside for a walk or just letting the dog outside, depending on your setup at your house, is difficult sometimes when it's cold out there. Summer, you want to be out of the house and doing stuff. You don't want to be weighed down by a puppy. so I would say I think fall spring spring's a good time if you want to get a fucking puppy you're you're going to make the decision to take care of the dog no matter when you get it and that's going to have at least some inconvenience to your life you know it's going to switch up

your daily routines and shit like that so it's like the best time is whenever you're up for switching that routine soon to be husband's a good time to get one too you can find out a lot about the nurturing habits of your soon-to-be husband. If he's shit with a puppy, I mean, you might not want that guy around. It's a good test. Dogs are a good test for parents as humans as parents, which I do not pass usually. Don't listen to him. Good Lord.

No, you get one of these things. Do we know what breed it is? No. Do we know where it's from exactly? Also, no. You get one of these little creatures, it just hangs out with you all day. That's a cute. Whatever it's doing with its ears, I like that.

Let's be honest. The breed matters a lot. The breed does make a big difference. You're adopting and could not possibly tell you what breed this is his DNA test came back like a But you can see its face that it's a harmless dog look at that face look at that face so get you one of That's somebody that just wants to be loved see yeah yeah I would adopt like an old bloodhound I would just get like an old bloodhound that just can't even move and it just sits on the front porch And it's it just and it's it's lips and ears are just like matted down onto the carpet

What's the next question? My name is Ruth my question is was there any kind of pet that either of you wanted as a kid that your parents absolutely wouldn't have allowed like for instance my mom would have been cool with just about anything including snakes which i am pretty sure that's not the norm but like is there anything that mama kelsey or papa kelsey would have immediately vetoed also my cat autumn willow she watches the show with me every week okay autumn all right autumn nice shout out to autumn i don't think we would have been allowed to get anything other than a dog and a cat I think that's where mom and dad drew the line. I remember bringing it up that I wanted a ferret.

I thought they were the coolest animals ever. Very much remember that. Then learned that they're not very like my college roommate had a ferret. Who had a ferret? And I got to, Isaiah Pete. Isaiah Pete had a ferret? Dude, yes. I forget the name of it, but it was living in our dorm room illegally.

Yeah, of course. Frowned upon because you can't have pets in the dorm rooms. That was the same thing with Marcus Barnett. Marcus Barnett had an alligator in the dorms. Bones Barnett, man. That's right. God damn. What a legend.

Yeah. So a ferret is a very, it's a, I mean, you got to be ready for the room to smell like absolute shit. It's going to be a fucking mess. Those things are not like as cute and friendly as you would hope they were. I feel like we talked about, definitely. remember you wanting a ferret like yeah my dad looked mentioned that when i told him i was like yeah my roommate has a ferret and it is the fucking worst and he's like yeah you remember when you wanted that fucking rodent dad got fired up he was like thank god i we didn't fucking lean into that

i feel like we almost got a hamster one like the rodents were definitely a thing for a little bit then there was like a rabbit because i did the borne horse somebody had a rabbit or a bunny one of our friends and we talked about that for a little bit no chance our parents were letting us get a snake or anything like that we'd have done something done with it i do remember you wanted a pigmy marmoset this is when you're a full grown adult you kind of i wouldn't be surprised if you still want you remember those little finger monkeys that oh yeah we were fucking around with that those things look fucking cool i just saw them flying around jumping on fingers i just wanted to put my finger in the air and see a jump from one side of the room onto my finger i did have a buddy that had a monkey

growing up. And I remember going there and seeing the cage for this thing and just being like, what the fuck? I was like a kid. And I was like, why the fuck do you guys have a monkey? Dude. You know the one the pet that I kind of want now? I saw one online where somebody had like a like a full on, not a sea turtle, but like those old, the tortoises that grow to be like a hundred. African turtles. No, no. They're like just like a, it's just a big tortoise. I can't giant tortoise or whatever it's called. Yeah. I know. I know exactly. They had them in Chicago, and it was like had a garage beer on its back, and it was just walking down the street. I was like, God dang, a tortoise like that would be so fucking sick.

But then it's like, where do I keep this thing? Just because it's a hundred years, it outlives you? Yeah, pass it on down. Yeah, it's Bill. He's older than everybody in the family. You're stuck with him now. It is now your inconvenience. Good luck caring for him in the winter in Pennsylvania.

Do you recommend exotic pets for kids, Jason? I don't remember exotic pets for anybody. I think exotic pets should stay exotic, wild animals. Dogs and cats are kind of the big ones. Do you, I mean, you know the one that's kind of getting interesting donkeys, like a miniature donkey? That's not an exotic pet. That's an exotic pet to fucking me. Hi, my name is Eleanor, and I'm calling regarding pet parenting advice.

I have a five-year-old cat. In 1950s name right there. And I'm getting ready to adopt a younger brother for him. and I just need to find a perfect name. So my question is, what should I name my new male kitten? Perfect, perfect name. That's a tough task. What did she say the older cat's name was?

Franklin. That was Franklin. Franklin, I like Franklin. I'm a big fan of human names for pets and pet names for humans. Franklin is a great name. Franklin's a good one. I like that. So she's kind of into this territory.

What's a good pet name for a male cat that's a younger sibling to Franklin? I mean, if you're going Franklin, why not keep it in the childhood cartoon, like kids? You know, you're like, hey, it's Franklin. You can go Arthur. Arthur, that's it. I mean, I think that's Franklin and Arthur. Frank and Artie, yeah. I think we just did it.

That's the perfect name. She's not going to think of it. Eleanor is not going to get a better one than art. What are some other options? We got Arthur. Arthur's great. Doug, Doug funny. Doug doesn't feel like a cat.

I'm not getting a dog. Unless it's like a cat that just fucking sits around. Doug kind of, does Doug, I don't know why, Doug kind of feels like a fuck up for a name. Yeah, I think it's Arthur. Arthur's the perfect name, as we've said. We like people names for pets. I think it's always fun.

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Add New Heights show with One S for fun clips throughout the week. And thanks to the New Heights production team, we're always making us look better. And yeah, we're on the bye week. So I'll see you guys next week after I don't play football. 992%. See you guys. Robin Williams is the genie in Aladdin is the best. It's the greatest.

Nobody's done a better voice acting role in anything ever, I don't think. I don't know. Shrek was pretty good. Not even fucking close to the comedic timing and ability that Robin Williams executed with the genie from Aladdin. I mean, it's the only reason the movie is like redeemable. They tried to redo it with Will Smith, and it was a fucking disaster. Like, nobody liked that. You thought it was a disaster.

I thought it was pretty good. I mean, you are so out of your fucking mind if you thought that movie was even remotely good. I thought it was good. And it was bad because everybody expected the genie to still be Robin Williams. It was not like an indictment on Will Smith. Anybody in that role was going to fail. I remember the songs in Aladdin a lot. They're great.

It's my favorite Disney flick. Of all the old school ones, that's the ones I watch. I like the messaging behind it. it and like I think it's a great film it's a fantastic film and then of the new ones I'm kind of into cocoa which really isn't even a movie for kids like a child watching cocoa gets nothing out of it but if you're an adult you're in tears at the end of it it is fucking an intense movie just telling you dude you're fucking knee deep in it some of the new movies are a little bit too straightforward with what they're trying to message they're too descriptive the songs

are more straightforward like there's no interpretation it's all just like this is what this movies about.