New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Franchise Records, Sanders NFL Debut, Taco Domination and We’re Going “Belly Bucking” | EP 165

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

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I'm Travis Kelsey. It's my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Cincinnati Bearcat Alums. Shout out to the cats. A tough one this past weekend. But Sinci, since we got to get this thing fucking rocking and rock. rolling, man. We got one at the house this week. Yeah, baby. Let's turn this thing around. Subscribe on YouTube,

100, plus, wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one to ask for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, why don't you let the people to know what we got coming up? All right now, 92 percentage, you know the deal. We've got a great episode coming up right now. We're going to recap the Chiefs of Broncos.

Return to James Winston and rest of week 11 of the NFL coming in right now. Let's get into what we always get into, and that's a little bit of that new news. New news is brought to you by American Express. Our Taylor episode was named one of the best podcast episodes of 2021. What the fuck are we talking about?

I mean, yeah. What is beating that one? So magical. Are they raiding other ones up there? There's nothing that's even fucking coming close to that. Oh, Elon Musk was actually a big one. But anyways, he was cheating. He was doing political shit.

Maybe we need to have Amy and Tina Fey come on here. Tina can do a great delco accent, phenomenal delco accent. Pretty sure she's got a few good accents in her back pocket. Thank you, Apple, for putting us up there, for doing pretty much nothing and just having the most famous person in the world up onto our show. If you haven't heard it, go check it out. If you've been living under a rock or something, okay, we also got some more new heights headed your way.

That's right. This Friday, we are dropping a Heights Hotline Hot Takes bonus episode. On Monday, we're also going to be dropping a guest. conversation with Aaron Andrews and Carissa Thompson. That's right. Maybe two of the most demanded guests of all time. Yay and Carissa are so much fun, man. You guys are going to love this.

They are fantastically entertaining, knowledgeable, and charismatic. Again, if you are spending Thanksgiving in Philly and you're sick of your family, feel free to stop by the New Heights Tailgate at the link on Black Friday. We're going to be having a new heights tailgate in the parking lot. Reminder, we'll have food, merch giveaways, a photo booth, a DJ games, a field goal competition. I don't like the field goal competition. I'm not stealing Pat McAfee's. We can do a better competition.

We don't need the field competition. And it's free to enter. Just join us in Lockcase starting at 11 a.m. I say a snapping competition. Yeah, we can do, we can figure out. I want to do one-on-one pass blocks. I've been trying to get ESPN to let me do it. I'm trying to let ESPN do it.

And ESPN keeps giving me freaking pushback because it's like not. Safe. Whatever, ESPN, just sign a waiver. You can make this shit happen. I think we do the belly bumping. Brandon, show the clip of the belly bumping. The belly bumping? That's the kind of competition I want.

And in Philly at a tailgate, this would be fucking electric. What's the belly bumping? That's what I'm talking about. Belly bucking. I want a belly bucking competition at the New Heights tailgate. That's what I want. You're hilarious. This would be.

We got to get Bo Allen in town. Who else can we get into this thing? Who's got a big old gut? Golly, who else? Sponsored by garage beer. Look at that. Dude, I'm telling you, basically sumo wrestling, but you're only allowed to use your belly. If you get pushed out of the circle, you're out.

You will have to sign a waiver. Yeah. Gosh, this is electric. It looks like the trick to this is to wear some tight fit jeans with a good strong belt. Look at how he's grabbing his own belt. It's fucking, yeah. That's how you do it. I love to.

part of the competition is just showing people pouring beers and drinking. Yeah. That's how you get... Yeah, these two guys are going to bump bellies, but it's more just a reason to get together and drink beer. How do you think they got those bellies, Jason? Drinking those damn beers. Dude, you drink too many beers and start belly bucking,

you're going to start fucking puking all over each place. Sounds like we're going to do a belly bucking competition at the New Hyde's tailgate. As long as Brandon, are we amenable to that? Can we get a pretty good, uh, yeah sure what's it called a waiver waiver yeah we'll contact the new heights legal department and get that way just saying dunfee with the freaking fanatic has his leg he was the last time he was supposed to say the last time i did something with him was towards ACL he's a year after he should be he should be about ready to go yeah the reality is i only want to do this because i want to compete

okay i wouldn't throw this out there just for 90s i'm joining hold on just re-gap we're going to do belly bucking the day after thanksgiving in the link that's right that's right all right done solved good luck amazon wandering and philadelphia best of luck i'll see you guys in philly kiley responded to our uh announcement post ooh jason take me okay kiley's coming to the tailgate too it looks like there we go guys missing missing a little bit of the uh the tailgate in life that's right kiley's going to compete in the bucket belly Can we confirm whether Princess Cuyana will be in attendance at the tailgate? Kyle!

Are you going to the tailgate? I mean, yeah, you're always invited. All right. She's in. Well, the crowd is more pumped for Kylie or Jet Sheik. I mean. Kylie. Are the intern in JetJake competing in the belly bucket?

You're going to wear some tight jeans and a fucking tank top and start belly bucking Jake? I'll do it. I'm in. Jake might medically be disqualified. I think I've been cleared for belly bucking. I'm in. If you have a scar that goes right down your sternum, you're out of the belly bucking. It stops before the belly.

We're good. I don't think I feel good about this. I don't think we need to do this. All right. It's fine. That wraps up new news. Brought to you by American Express. Oh.

All righty. Let's talk about exactly where Travis wants to go with this conversation. Oh, yeah. Bold topics. To wrap up week 11 in the NFL, bold topics is brought to you by KFC. All right. Chiefs 19, Broncos, 22. I'll let you have the floor before we dive into anything else. A bunch of flags all over the place, whether it was, you know, procedural penalties,

which is the fucking most frustrating thing ever. Or holding penalties, which some I'm here for others. I'm just like, what are we even doing? And it's, it's, you know, obviously putting up touchdowns instead of field goals, man. It's frustrating because it's gotten to the point where we're five and five. We're 500 going into the back end of the schedule here. We've got seven games left. And we've basically got to run the table.

And I haven't been in this situation in a long, long time, man. And it's even more frustrating knowing the kind of guys that we have, knowing the kind of talent that we have, knowing the type of coaches that we have. And everybody's got to just kind of look themselves in the mirror, man. You can't sit around pointing fingers about, you know, whether it's, you know, somebody missing a block here, somebody missing a catch here, somebody, you know, play calls, whatever you, whatever you go into mentally when you're

frustrated, you've got to kick that shit aside and you got to think about how you're going to fucking attack the day. And you've got to put all the selfish shit, all the, all the things that you want for yourself aside. And it's just got to be about this team, about the guy next year. And you've got to have fun doing it, man. And we got a hell of a team coming in that's firing on all. cylinders that's that looks like they're getting after everybody in the in the run game and

past game and we're going to have to put up fucking points to help our defense last week we didn't do that this week is uh you know it's it's about time we put it together man we've seen what this train looks like when when we're rocking and rolling um and we're having fun and uh we need to just get back to to playing cheese football man yeah i mean well said i do think that you know it's frustrating where you guys are at you're five and five five of those losses though are one score games there's like one or two plays a game and you guys could easily still be at the top of the AFC. Like, let me ask you this.

This is what's crazy about the NFL. If this year's chief's team played last year's chief's team, who wins you? I'm taking this year's. That's what I'm saying. I am too. Somehow you guys are better, but you're sitting at five and five. You're just not being, you're not executing as well at the end of games, which is very uncharacteristic for Pat and what you guys have been, obviously last year.

It feels like it's all self-inflicting. And it feels like the answers are right there in front of us, and we just got to fucking do it. I hear you. And it's frustrating to watch because I know how much you put into it, and how much you guys is a team and how much Andy puts into it. And, well, there was one good thing that happened in the game, which is the Big Yeti set a record for the most touchdowns and organization history.

He's now the triple crown holder for receivers in the Kansas City Chiefs organization. That's right. He has the most receptions, most yards. and now the most touchdowns for a receiver in the history of the Kansas City Chiefs. Well, most touchdowns across the board for any player. I know you always like to downplay this stuff. Trabb, this is a huge accomplishment and a testament to the career you've had in Kansas City. And I don't want to hear you downplay this one bit.

This is incredible. The Chiefs are a storied organization that has been around since the beginning of the NFL, the NFL, like all of it. They've been around forever. Tons of people have put that Chief's uniform on. Hall of Famers out the Wazoo, and you're the one guy at the top of that organization for an entire career in multiple categories. And I know you would trade all of that to have a successful season this year because that's the type of person you are, but you deserve all the credit in the world for this accomplishment.

Congratulations to the Big Yeti. Thank you, big guy. And it is an honor, man. Obviously, right now it's sour because it's coming off of a fucking loss, a fifth loss of the season. But I got so much, first of all, so much respect for the organization, so much respect for the guys that have paved the way, not only in the chiefs organization, but in the National Football League that have made, you know, an opportunity for myself to come in and, you know, make a living, you know, live out my childhood dreams, man. And I think, you know, shout out to Priest Holmes yet again. We talked about priests on the show and how much we fucking loved him when we were when we were kids watching the game. And obviously Tony Gonzalez is a guy.

I still feel like I'm trying to fill his shoes and what he's been able to do in the National Football League and in this Chiefs organization. And I just love coming into work, man. And, you know, when you come into work with the right mindset and the right attitude and you got a really good coach and a really good quarterback and you're, you stay long enough. They don't fire you for 13 years, man. You start to pile up some stats, man. And I'm just a product of my environment and I love Kansas City for it.

And let's go ahead and keep adding to that fucking, that record, baby. And sports some more touchdowns this year and try and get us into the playoffs, man. Currently, you guys are 5 and 5 eighth in the NFC if it started today. Everybody wants to get concerned and all these things. But I think Andy has always head on straight in these situations. We're not quite as negative as the outside world is. We know what we need to do to clean up. And the guys, they get it.

Some of these guys have been through some pretty good seasons. it's not like this one is lost so answers are right in front of us i said it their answers are right there you turn on the film you see what's going on you see where your strengths are where your weaknesses are and and you keep getting better and and you know the concern isn't with do we have the guys yeah the concern isn't do we have the coaches do we have the guys do we have the right people in the building i i have all the faith that we got the guys that we need we just need to turn it up a notch, the accountability, the details. I'm right here raising my hand saying, I need to get my shit right.

And that should be the mentality of everybody that steps in this fucking building. And there needs to be a sense of urgency to get that shit done and to be proficient with how you're getting it done. And I got a lot of faith in the guys in this building. I know I'm going to go to war for them, maybe. I got a lot of faith in you guys as well, especially you. we just talked about this. Statistically, the Chiefs in 2025 are better than the 2024 chiefs. 2024, 11th in EPA per play on offense, 15th in EPA per play on defense,

2025, third in EPA on offense, 10th in EPA per play on defense. I don't know that that means shit, but this is the one thing that I do think is showing the differences of the two seasons. 2024, 11 and 0 and 1 score games, 2025, 0 and 5. I know that you're saying you've got to pick it up throughout the rest of the game. Right? Like, it's not just about end-of-game scenarios. But when I think of the Chiefs, I do think about end-of-the-game. I think about, like, you can't give the ball back to Pat Mahomes.

And I think it's important, I think winning a lot of the times, I talk about this on Monday a little bit, winning is a skill and you get used to that. As someone who has had immense success in late-game scenarios, what do you think is the mindset you need to have to be able to execute better in end-of-game scenarios? The team isn't getting it done right now, but I know from you, from Pat, from Andy. There's so many guys there from Chris Jones. Understand what the thought process is late in the games.

And it feels like right now the whole team is just not executing as well as they need to. I think just getting guys acclimated into the mindset that you have in those late moment games. There's things that kill drives like that. Penalties, sacks, and big time mistakes, right? Those are the three things you can't have in end-of-game scenarios, two-minute drills. You try and preach not making those. We had all of them, not only on that drive, but the drive after that. It was a little bit of everything.

It was just, you know, for whatever reason, we just aren't in sync in those moments. And I don't know if it's having all of the guys healthy in these moments. And it's not effort. I can promise you that. You turn the film on, it's not effort, man. It's just getting the details right and focusing in on the task at hand, the play called where we're going offensive line-wise in terms of blocking. and then receivers-wise, there's a sense of urgency.

We got to fucking get going. We got to run. We got to make sure that we're on time knowing Pat's under duress. I feel like a lot of the times on the best teams I've been around, when you get into these crucial moments, communication gets heightened. And it gets heightened in a way that it, like, brings you back down to, like, just doing what you have to do.

Like, little things, like, hey, it's going to be loud. We know it's going to be loud. This drive, lock in on the snap count. Make sure you're not off sides, right? Little things like you're saying with the receiver is like, hey, the moment you're breaking the huddle, you see guys communicating and saying like, hey, you're going to hit the timing of it. Like all these little communications between players, between the quarterback, like, hey, the ends jump in the play. Let's get a double count in here, this next snap. Like all of that just gets heightened in these crucial moments.

And I know you guys have been a part of it. There's the clips with you and Pat talking before the Buffalo Bills game and him just giving you the do it, do it, Kels, right? There's a clip last year with the block field goal. You guys are losing the game. And these guys know they're going to go out and block the field goal, and they're talking about it on the bench before they go do it. The communication and great players in those crucial moments gets heightened. And that's something you guys have been so great at throughout your time with Andy and Pat

and you and Chris and everybody over there. Everything you're saying is spot on, man. Tyreek Hill tweeted out, congrats to you. I didn't see this until right now. All right. Nice. If Cheetah, if Cheetah was here, if Cheetah was here, he'd probably be the one celebrating the record. That's a very good point.

He was fucking, he was having himself one in KC for a while. Shout out to the Cheetah, get healthy, my man. DJ Cheetah, he's on the boards now, baby. What? He's finding, yeah, he's getting the, every, every, every, every, every. I didn't know this. Oh, yeah. What kind of music?

Like old school, not old school hip hop, but like, like, like our generation hip-hop? 90s, early 2000s? 2000s. I think it was 2000s hits. I forget the song. He posted it the other day of him transitioning from one song to the next and getting hyped that he finally made it sound decent.

Nailed it. Sound up to the Cheetah. Let me know where you're going to be at, man. I got to come see my dog. You just mentioned you got the Colts coming up. The Colts have been red hot. They've been demolishing teams. Come back down to Earth a little bit the last couple weeks,

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Yeah, and got a lot of respect for him and every defense that he's been at the helm of. And we're going to have our hands full, man, but it's out of air. head, and it's at noon, and I'm already getting fucking fired up for it, baby. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, Adobe Acrobat Studio. How about it? You know what's worse than getting blindsided by a 300-pound defensive lineman when you least expect it? How about getting blindsided by a mountain of documents when you're trying to get some work done?

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Jason Eagle 16 Lions 9. How about that, Trev? Man, two high score and offenses too. A lot of talent on both offensive sides of the ball there. 25 points. Yeah, only 25 points, man. It's crazy. What are your thoughts on the game?

Oh, my thoughts are the defense is playing unbelievable right now. Probably the best they've played since Vic Fangio has been here. the last two games against Green Bay. And now the Lions who were coming off their best offensive performance of the season against the commanders. I just, they're playing so well right now. And it's at every single level of the defense. The defense of line is playing out of their minds. Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter were playing volleyball out there, batting down passes left.

They had five batted passes. One of them ended up being a pick early that the Eagles ended up scoring off of. And I think that you know the lines. do all this run and play action they hit a lot of stuff over the middle of the ball by sucking those linebackers up when you're they batting down those passes early that clearly i think got them out of their rhythm that's that yeah that makes you as a as a play caller as a quarterback that that makes you think about the next time you're about to fucking either call that or throw that kind of pass yeah guys are winning their one-on-one matches up front and pass plays as well jalen

phillips has been a huge addition they got nolan smith and brandon graham and all these guys healthy outside of that. They got great depth. They're linebackers. Nikobie Dean, Zach Bonn, and J.O. Campbell, are freaking playing out of their minds right now. Nucoby Dean getting healthy has added another dynamic to this defense. Their DBs outside of the one-corner position

been great all year, but even Adori Jackson's playing better than he was earlier in the year. Yeah. They're playing so cohesive and fantastic right now as a defense. To hold the lines of nine points is very difficult. And it took everything they had. They had to stop them five times on fourth down. Like, that's a very difficult task against the Detroit Lions. Their fourth down conversion percentage, I would assume, is

like well above like 60, 70 percent. The one thing that is frustrating, I think every Eagles fan is frustrated. Like, here's the thing. I thought the Eagles would win this game because I thought we match up well with the Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions are a big, we're going to stuff this bolt on your throat and then throw it over your heads, control the line of scrimmage team. and the Eagles have always been good against teams that try and play football like that because we got the guys ourselves as well and we like they line up and they play man coverage

they ain't hide in nothing like you play some teams are going to disguise the coverages they're going to be is it zone is it cover three is it quarters is it man like and they're great at that area Detroit Dan Campbell they line up and you know exactly what they're doing come beat us and I thought we would perform honestly much better on offense against a defense like that.

Credit to Detroit, they came to play on defense. They played well up front. They're linebackers. They stopped the run. They condensed the line of scrimmage when it was a run play. And in the back end,

bro, they played really well in coverage. There's no other way to say it. Like they answered the bell. I expected the Eagles offense to play much better than they did against the lines, to be honest with you. They had some drops early that I think kind of got them out of a rhythm.

The run plays, they were doing great on counterplays, but it just wasn't there consistently. But I got to give Detroit credit. Dan Campbell, the way these guys play, we've talked about it for weeks now. I'm such a huge fan of the ethos of this team. I know they didn't get the win. They wish they did.

16 to 9, no, that thing was right there. They get two of those five, fourth-down conversions that they didn't end up converting. This game could be completely different. And I thought it was a game that you want to see. there were two games this week that I thought were the four best teams in the NFC plan. Rams and Seahawks and the Eagles and Lions. Those are the big dogs right now. Credit to Detroit for playing a great game on defense.

They get a couple more of those four thousands. It's different. But for the Eagles, to win this game against the Lions and now be the top of the NFC, awesome, awesome team win. Got to clean this stuff up on offense, but overall, really happy. There you go, baby. You said defense came up huge, 0.15 on fourth downs, but also held the lines to 3 and 13 on third downs, which is fucking huge because the lions are so good in those critical situations. And there's so many weapons on that fucking side of the ball, man. Fast, fast running backs.

Did you see Jemir Gibbs in person or like even on TV? That's how you know you're fast. If you look fast on TV, you're fast. Because every once you'll be on the field And somebody will run by You're like, that guy's moving pretty good But then you see it on TV It's like he's running about the same speed as everybody else When you look like you're in a different gear Than everybody else on the television

Yeah As what does Gruden say? Blur the screen! He blurs the screen. He does, man. And you guys held him, man. You guys held him. You guys shut down glasses Dan Campbell

So shut down my stamp of the week last week, man. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, who knows? Maybe a little rematch coming in the playoffs the baby i mean i would not be surprised at it at all i would love as a fan of the game of football to see it because these both of these teams don't get me wrong i love watching the tricky stuff that detroit does i love watching the unique coverages and fronts and everything that vick does but there's just something about both of these teams that they get also at the core of football

which is like we're going to line up and we're going to beat the shit out of you today and I just love watching teams to play that way. I do. I just love it every... It's football and his core, Ben. That's right. It's Army versus Navy, dude. Yeah, as an Eagles fan, what's your biggest concern right now

with the Eagles? Well, I mean, Lane Johnson injury, I don't know how long he's going to be out. That's something that is like decimated this offense in years past. Whenever Lane's been out, it's been very detrimental. Positively, Fred Johnson has played well in his snaps he's had to go in for Lane. But

make no mistakes. They're going to miss lane. We got to find a way to get this offense going. And I really thought they're playing man coverage. We execute so well when we play teams that try to run man coverage against us. We just saw it and it was, it did not work. We have to do things to figure this out. We have to get the ground game going. Everybody wants to talk about this year's offense versus last year's offense

and previous offenses with Jalen Hertz. The number one difference is that we can't run the football. We're not running it at a consistent success. right. We had some big hits. We had a nice flip play to Sequin. We had some counterplays that hit. We have to be way better. We have to be demoralizing in the ground game. And they can be. They should be.

And they're just not. And it's frustrating to watch. And like, if you look back at Nick Seriani's entire existence in Philadelphia, the Eagles have been a top five to top seven rushing team every year of the NFL. We are not there right now.

And that's the biggest thing that makes throwing the ball so much freaking hard. You want to talk about Patma Holmes. Brother, Pat had 45 pass attempts last week, something like that. Yeah. You guys had like what?

Karim had 14 runs? I don't even know if he had that many. It is extremely hard in this league to be efficient on offense if you don't threaten the line of scrimmage. All the best offenses in the league do that well. Birds got the Cowboys this week in Dallas where we've struggled at times.

Dallas is, even when they weren't a very good football team, And they found out a way to get our number in Dallas multiple times of my career. And they are a good football team right now. Make no mistake about it. Their offense is loaded for bear. They're playing better and better every week. They are fucking motivated as hell because they've lost a member of their team in a very tragic way. And you can tell, man, these guys were fucking ready to go.

Schenheimer, man. And then defensively, Quinn and Williams, a big weakness of what Dallas has had really over the past five years. has been the interior of that defense, the heart of the defense. They have not had great players across the board, right? Their linebackers have been dwindled from their times of having outstanding linebackers with Sean Lee, Vanderex, before he started getting hurt. Now they got two. Now they got two.

Now they got two. But more importantly, they're detackles, which have not been, they've been guys, but they have lacked the Chris Joneses, the Fletcher Cox, the Jalen Carter's, the Aaron McDonald's, the Vita Vez. They haven't had that present in there. They got it now with Quina Williams. Make no mistake about it. He is the real deal. So this is a big matchup for the Eagles in division. The Cowboys are going to be fired up for sure. Can't wait to watch this one this week. Did you hit the tables?

Of course. Of course he hit the table. This is what I do. I always make the mistake of not talking to a host and making sure I got enough funds. I hit the table, the craps tables and I was out of quick and and then I'm out of what I can burn at the ATM. It's really not a mistake. It's a good safeguard. No, no, no, no. That's the way to do it.

It's a good safeguard from doing something really stupid. Either you fucking, yeah, either you go through the roof and win like 30 times more than what your ATM limit will allow you to to take out or you just walk away with your ATM limit. Yeah. I think that's the way I got to do. Dude, don't ever change that. Don't ever go.

I can't go tell her my bank ahead of time and having a, no. To find a credit. I got to stay away from it. I got to stay. When you know. I kind of wanted to, though. I kind of wanted to. When you know the hosts in Las Vegas?

I purposely don't, I don't have any host number in my phone because I don't want to be able to contact them. Don't look them in the eyes. Leave their card on the table. Don't act like you accidentally left it there. I've used one a couple times before. But it's, I'm very happy. I was not ahead of schedule on this. Yeah.

Do not. Do not. Um, nice. Let's, that had to be fun. Where'd you stay? So we were at Resorts World. Ooh. Which was my first time there.

It was nice. The high limits is nice. Dude, they, they did a good job with that one. I've only, I've been to Vegas a bunch. It's the biggest of the fucking bunch. And it's just like, it feels empty as hell at times. Yeah.

But I'll tell you what. That, uh, the, what is it over there? The, uh, the concords? Concords. Dude. Concords is a good one. That was where I was like, oh, shit. Okay.

This plays legit. He'll be doing it right. I've only ever stayed at the Cosmopolitan and the win. I've been to Vegas a bunch, but I've only ever stayed in those two places. Too great and solid. They're fantastic. Resort's world was great. The service was fantastic and, yeah, you could tell it was newer.

I don't know when it was built, but the Concord's was real nice. Yeah, it's real nice. It's within, it's got to be 10 years now, but when I went, it was within like five years of it being built. Thank you, to our sponsor, KFC. Are you a dark meat or a breast kind of guy? When you get KFC, you can get it all. Just put it in that bucket. It's true.

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Everybody's favorite quarterback. Oh, yeah. Dude, I love James. The dubs are coming back. Oh, yeah. And the pregame proverbs fit pick, baby. The horse is prepared for battle, but the victory comes from the laud. Hey, there we go.

A little boy. Hell yeah, James. He's the best. With the trench coat. Hey, Harlem shaking the fuck out that. Hey, hey. That dirt off the shoulders player. Hey.

Huh. What a guy, man. Oh, fuck. Is there a better personality in the history of the NFL than James was it? I don't know. I don't know of any, man. I don't know of any. I can't think of them.

You might be the only one. You might be the closest second, dude. Greatest city in the world clip. Yeah, let's play that. I want fans to know that I'm going to do my best. You know, obviously, I'm going to have fun, but I'm going to execute, have a surgical execution. Surgial.

And just play ball, man. Like, this is something I've been doing since. I've been four years old. And I just get to do it in the greatest city in the world. I'm going to be saying it with my son, it's the greatest city in the world. That's a Hamilton reference. I don't know.

I didn't. I didn't know and I've seen Hamilton. Thank you for educating. Oh my God. Gosh, man. I can only imagine what it's actually like to be in the locker room with that guy every single day, man. Great. It's got to be just the most exciting thing on the planet.

The NFL is just better when James is starting, man. I agree. I agree. Staying on the Giants, though, we had a deep, no-dum question from Camp Scataboo. All right, let's hear it. Do you like, turn your head. to eat a taco or do you turn the taco for you

like are you dominant to the taco or does the taco like do you turn your head for the taco? It's about the dominance of the taco though like if you're not if you're turning the taco you're dominating a taco. I don't know what he dominates more linebackers or tacos. He

also doesn't sound like he likes to keep what's in the taco in the taco. That's my thing if it's a hard show and you turn a big sideways. You got to at least meet it halfway. You got to give it like a good I agree. I'm kind of a double. I got to get in like in there.

I'm a, I'm a three-quarter taco eater, not overhand or submarine. What? I don't know. I'll dominate the taco by devouring the taco. Yeah. No matter which way I turn the taco,

I'm still eating that motherfucker. Therefore, I am the dominant one. I'm a chew hard as fuck so that taco knows. Who's boss? Who's boss? And who just got dominated? Yeah.

What's your favorite kind of? My favorite taco, uh, give me, uh... You soft or hard shell? Hard shell. Hard shell tacos, yeah. Hard shell taco, um, just a classic fucking ground of beef. I just love it, man. Just a simple.

Lettus tomato. You name it, yeah. Onions? No onions. I know, you're not an onions guy. I'm, I'm a guac guy. Do you like Pico de Gallo? Yeah, I can do Pico.

I just can't do the long, I can't do like the long, slimy onions. I got you. Yeah, those things are. Diced onions. good with with pico yeah yeah yeah dude i'm a big corn tortilla i am a big taco guy i love tacos taco tuesday it's taco any day don't limit me to tacos don't you fucking even yeah i'd get tacos five days out of the week if i'll dominate them i'll let them dominate me i don't turn down any taco this is nice my favorite is alpestoor for sure i love alpesto i will do especially if it's like

an authentic street. If it's like a street taco, I'm with it. Yeah. That best source pork, isn't it? I think it is. Sounds like, it doesn't matter what it is. It's fucking great. They just season that thing up. And put that fucking Adobe season or adobe or whatever that it is, the red stuff. Yeah. And the pineapple on it. Oh, gosh. Ooh, okay pineapple. Yeah, baby. I like pineapples on my tacos and my pizzas and pretty much anything. I'm very pro pineapple. I don't believe in limiting the pineapple's ability to go in anything. What's the best thing to have pineapple in?

man i just love pineapple yeah i don't think i don't think there's a there's a wrong answer to that um trying to think like a common thing you have pineapples with like there's like the pineapple like marguerite or like the uh tropical drink that's in the pineapple it's more of a gimmick yeah i'm more i'm more pairing things with like the pineapple and food not necessarily drinks are you a fresh pineapple or you a canned pineapple right canned pineapple's like i can't believe we used to eat that. I can, because those are good, too, but... Yeah, and it was also way easier for dad to just go get dole, canned pineapple.

Yeah. Stoli-Doli? I'll drink a Stoli-Doli. What's a Stoli-Doli? Dolly. Is that a thing? Yeah, capital grill, baby. And they called a Stoli-Doli?

It's pineapple juice and Stoli? Yep. Vodka aged in a big old barrel of pineapple. Oh, so it's infused? Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. Dolewip is very good. Isn't that coconut, too?

it's like coconut and pineapple or is it what is dolewip because dolep isn't ice cream you know what we're talking about yeah i put it in there it's just the Disneyland thing that's the best well they have it else place they have it at the shore too i'll get it at the shore as well oh i believe the base is like a coconut type thing but yeah it's it's delicious it's the best yeah also pineapple and fried rice is pretty good pineapple and fried rice is very good were we talking about football oh dude spitgate part two um dude what the fuck is happening What is happening in the NFL? We got Jalen Carter spitting.

Dak Prescott's spitting on the floor. Now, Jamar Chase is spitting on Jalen Ramsey. I don't know what the situation is. I feel like... You don't know what the situation is. Travis, there's a whole video. No, I'm saying I don't know what the reasoning for spitting on someone in how... There's never a reason.

Why is there ever a reason to spit on someone? This is my thing. When did we... The last person I remember spitting in the NFL was Bill Romanowski. Now, all of a sudden, we got three spitters. We got people just spit. and left, what are we doing, guys? I thought Mike Tomlin had a great way of saying, like, what you do if somebody spits at you.

You know, I have no message if someone spits in your face. Do what comes natural. If you can spit on, should you be able to react without getting a flag? I think so. But then it's like, there's a whole, like, section of like, oh, this happens, you can react, however. Well, I mean, if somebody punches you in the face, are you not allowed to punch him back? No.

You're not allowed to? No, if you punch them back, you're getting each. rejected, too. Even if they started it. Yeah, it's got to be open hand. Open hand, you're good. It's just a 15-yard penalty. But if you close that fist, you punch them, out of the game.

I mean, I guess it's probably good practice to just not encourage reactions. And I mean, listen, you get spit on, you like to think you'd be able to hold your composure. But, dude, that's just like such a disrespectful, disgusting thing to do. I don't like that this has now become a thing. I think that we need to do our best as NFL players to not continue. continue this trend because it's just not appropriate. Not good. Other big games and stories.

Bills 44, Bucks 32. Josh Allen's rolling. They struggle for a couple games there, but they've been back on the Bills train. They're rolling right now. Rams 21 C-Ox 19. This is my favorite game of the weekend, be honest with you, outside of the Lions and Eagles game. I really thought the Rams would win this game.

They're my sleeper in the NFC right now. It's like not a lot of people who are not talking about them that much, but they're good at everything they do. They have a tremendous quarterback, a great defense. And the Seahawks, I've been waiting to see what they look like against a really good team because defensively they got some really good players. Darnold, it's like, okay, how is he going to perform under pressure? And listen, Darnold threw four picks.

But they lost this game 21 to 19 and they threw four interceptions. If I'm Seattle, I'm like, bro, we just clean this up. We can beat anybody. Yeah. And they had a chance to win it at the end, right? I know. Oh, they've been lost on a field goal, yeah. Came down to the very end of it.

So I think that both of these teams are for real this year. It was an outstanding game to watch. Great defense. I don't like watching low-scoring games, but I like when guys are flying around and making plays. And that's what this was on both sides. Yeah. And then, yeah, we finally got to see the Shador Sanders experience,

albeit not the most set up for success way possible going in mid-game. Tough situation for any backup. Everybody's making a big deal that he doesn't get first-team reps and practice. This is the way it works. people. I mean, that's the backup quarterback doesn't get reps. There's not enough reps that the starters can get.

You got to be ready, man. You got to be ready. So that's part of the circumstances. But I think they've said that Gabriel's in the concussion protocol and Sanders looks like he's going to play this week. So he's going to get a lot of rips this week. And we'll get to see what it really looks like this coming week with Shador Sanders. Let's fucking go.

All right. That's it for both topics brought to you by KFC. All right. Let's wrap this up. some stamps of the week, baby. Stamps of the week brought to you by Audubull. I'm keeping my stamp of the week in the tight end world, as I typically do, baby.

Always showing love to the T.E.s. And this is the biggest, baddest tight end in the National Football League, Darnell, Washington out of Georgia University, the Pittsburgh Steelers, tight end, man. The guy's an absolute beast. He had himself quite a day, but this play right here where he's stiff-armed three defenders in a row, man. It's just, if you're

watching this clip, man, you're, you fucking love how this guy plays football, man. Dude, I'm happy you're giving it to darn out. I gave him the hemmy on Monday night. I mean, this play is unbelievable, but this dude does so much for the offense that doesn't get noticed. He is a stealer. You know what I mean? When you think of a steeler, he's a steeler, baby.

You think of a guy that's going to physically get after people. He gets after him in the run game, and clearly he gets after him when he's caught the ball. He does all the dirty work, just like a guy that doesn't get all the attention he should. Love this stamp for sure. This dude, man. Look at my, dude, holy crap. hurtling dudes. This is on a third and 15

and he's only like five yards down field. The guy's just giving all the fucking effort in the world to get a fucking first down. I love it. What an epic pick, dude. There we go, baby. You know what? I'm going to keep my stamp of the week

in the tight end room as well. I'm going with a guy who has been known to do some tush pushes as a tight end. Oh, I know exactly where you're going. Mark Andrews and the Baltimore Ravens for executing the fake tush push in epic fashion. Everybody's like, oh, the tish pushes at a football play. No, it's not pretty.

It's not schematic. It's not strategic. It's not cool. Well, check out, my man, Mark Gage's a little misdirection, opens the opposite way, swings out to the right side of the line and into the end zone. They fucking won the game on a fake tush push. Epic. Epic.

Fuck, yes. Love it. Love it. Mark Andrews, the way he spun out of there. It looks like he's ran a little bit of triple option in his day, man. I love the design. Love the design. This dude, Mark, is so fucking hype when he gets into this dude.

Two minutes left in the game, fourth and one. Are you kidding me? Fire me up, baby. Let's go, man. He's getting his Baker Mayfield on right there. All right now. That does it for Stamp of the Week, brought to you by Audible. And that also does it for this episode of New Heights.

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Hey. You were looking sharp last night. It was something about, like, the, when they blacked out the stadium and they had the lights, the, like, phone lights going on behind you at, like, a halftime. Yeah. She looked magical, man. Dude, it's a fun environment there in Vegas. They know how to do it.

Who's the halftime? Nelly. What? That's right. They had Nelly. Undlea, mama, here. Yep. No, it was a good one.

My first game out of coach. COVID because COVID year was the first year that Allegiance Stadium was up and running. We go up there. We come out of halftime. Love is what I got. Oh, a little sublime. Yeah.

Yeah. Dude, I was like, where the fuck am? I felt like I was at like a basketball game. It does feel like that. Dude, yeah,

it definitely, like you're coming out and all of a sudden you're like, am I playing for the beers? Yeah. What is the fucking one guy's name? Squeak. Damn it, Squeak. Fucking Steve Perry.

Steve Perry. God damn, I got to watch that movie again. See if Taylor likes that movie. Should just see me laughing at everything and have a good time. Oh, this is what he likes. I get it. The mascot is pissing into a urinal. It's clever.

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