New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Free Agency Rumors, NFL Players as Pokemon & Rich Eisen | New Heights | Ep 32

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

92%ers we are back with episode thirty-two of New Heights presented by our friends at Fireball.  In this episode, we have a huge announcement! (02:00) On April 26th we will be bringing you “New Heights Live” a one-night-only event at the Kansas City Music Hall. Tickets will be available for purchase via Ticketmaster starting Friday, March 24, 2023, at 10:00 am.  For more information on the show and to purchase tickets, please visit Ticketmaster.com.  We also revisit our NFL/Harry Potter debate from last week (07:20), look at some of the hysterical tweets you sent us about the segment, and reveal Travis’ official sorting hat results.  When we finally talk football, Travis gives us his thoughts on all the Chiefs free agency moves (15:38) like signing Charles Omenihu, Orlando Brown heading to Cincy, and how he thinks Juju will fit it on the Patriots.  Jason also reacts to the Eagles (20:27) finally signing Marcus Mariotta, Darius Slay giving Philly the Okie doke, and the media frenzy that has been C. J. Gardner-Johnson signing with the Lions.  The guys also weigh in on players repping themselves (28:32), how they recruit guys to their teams (34:22), their favorite free agency moves so far (36:45), and the wild rumors coming out of Philadelphia (40:25) and Patrick Mahomes’ Twitter likes. (48:41) This episode also includes Jason’s incredible conversation with NFL Network’s Rich Eisen (01:02:00). We touch on how Rich feels about player podcasts (01:04:20), why the combine is the best-drunk gossip (01:15:00), how he almost botched his first Sportscenter (01:39:10), what he will say to Ohio State fans this year (02:04:00), and why he loves Jalen Hurts so much (02:09:05).  As always, watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce every Wednesday & check us out on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show.  Merch: https://homage.com/newheights  Support the Show:   Fireball: Enjoy the #1 shot in the country responsibly and visit https://www.fireballwhisky.com to find out where you can purchase those little cinnamon delights  ATHLETIC GREENS: Visit https://athleticgreens.com/newheights for a FREE 1-year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase. Seat Geek: Use code KELCE20 for $20 off your first SeatGeek order. https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/KELCE20 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I remember it was like 2015, 2016, somewhere around there. And Rodney Hudson, our center had just went to Oakland. And there was a big question, like, man, where are we gonna go with the centers? And I'm like, man, I went up to John Dorsey, it was our GM at the time, I was like, John, I know it. I know a center. He might be tied up with a team right now,

but I know a center if you wanna go get him. I think you'd fit in perfectly. You tried to get the Chiefs to trade pool? 1,000% every year. Well, not now. I just got Creed Humphrey. Yeah, no, we don't need you now. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, presented by Waysports and Entertainment and brought to you by our friends at Fireball, the pound-for-pound undisputed champions of the world! Whoa, a wonderful and delightful cinnamon delight. for a pound on this beauty champions of the world. Whoa, a wonderful and delightful cinnamon delight. New episodes and new heights come to you every single Wednesday,

ladies and gentlemen, but subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media platforms at New Heights Show. Jason, talk to his brother, will we got coming up? Yeah, we got another great episode, Travis. We got some free agency news to touch on between the Eagles and Chiefs.

We get on all these rumors surrounding the Eagles. A lot of rumors, a lot of rumors. As well as a fantastic interview with my man, Rich Eisen, unfortunately, Trav could not be there. He wasn't at the top on this one. That's my guy. But man, it's a doozy. And after that, we're also gonna touch on

a little bit of Pokemon, I guess. Pokemon. Is it Pokemon? Or Pokemon? It's Pokemon. I think it depends on where you're at in the world. But first, as always, new news.

New news. Still a top five podcast, despite fighting off all these basketball and free agency live sports podcasts, and it's thanks to all of you, the 92%ers have kept this show going strong in the all sides. So thank you for tuning in. Before we get to comments, we're going to tell you guys the biggest news. The biggest. We're officially doing a live show. It's live. That's right. For the draft, the Wednesday before Thursday, round one, that usually happens. Wednesday comes before Thursday. That's right. In Kansas City, we're going to be doing a live episode on April 26th at the Kansas

City Music Hall. April 26th at the Kansas City Music Hall. We're really doing this. Huh? It's I mean, those are dates and a venue. That means we're really doing this. Wednesday, April 26th at the Kansas City Music Hall. Yeah, it's gonna be produced by the Wave Sports Entertainment crew, as well as being brought to you by live nation. I'm sweating. I'm sweating right now.

It's real deals. This is intense. Yeah, I don't know if we're ready for this, but it's gonna happen. New Heights Live in person, and all of our usual bullshit. So, we will have some surprise guests. We're gonna have a bunch of giveaways and hell.

Maybe we'll even sign your baby. Oh, we're gonna have a little baby sign in station. Bring your baby. And bring earmuffs for them, because we are not censored. And we're live. Tickets are going to be available for purchase via ticket master starting Friday, March 24th at 10 a.m.

Oh, and I don't know how big the venue is. That's two days before jumps off. That's going to be a man. That's going to be crazy. No, no, March 24th event. That's going to be a month and two days before this. Wild at 10 a.m. Is that Eastern time? I'm assuming it's Eastern time. I mean, the whole world runs on Eastern time other than the Midwest, the mountain time and the Pacific. When you say 10 a.m. You said everybody outside of the Eastern time zone.

Yeah, but when somebody says 10 a.m. without specifying, what do they what do they mean? Midwest. Let's get the fan mentioned to the week. We had a lot of comments this week. A lot of you seem to enjoy the Harry Potter talk. Although some people thought it was a little weird that a sports talk show was talking about Harry Potter, but great. It's a buzz, yeah, nonetheless, we got a lot of buzz. As well as our workaholics, poop dollar conversation. Yes, I'm being. And it got so much buzz, it was a comment

and I'm by Blake Anderson. Oh, I think we all know Blake from workaholics felt honored that he was inspired to comment on that little clip on Instagram. As well as Backstreet Boy Kevin Richardson. Which, I'm going to be on that baby. Big T-San. I'm going to be honest, I was always more of a Backstreet Boy than in Sink Boy.

I don't know, where were you at? That was the battle in the house. Yeah, no, I had to in Sink album. That was like the battle in the house, man. You had to take it in Sink now because your buddies with Justin Timberlake. That's what you're taking in. No, we were blowing that back, back streets, back. All right.

Dun dun dun dun. Dun dun dun dun. The fact that you're calling yourself a boy band fan right now is fucking. I mean, I was in a boy band fan then. I'm not a boy band fan necessarily now, but I feel like when you grow up with them, you retain that knowledge. That 90s era was a little different then. Back shoe boys in sync, 98 degrees.

So, it's an idea. I don't know. I don't know how to say. But, I'm, I'm never forget when I was on a bus to some summer camp and somebody told me about Back shoe boys. I was like, what the heck is Back shoe boys? And then I listen to them, I was on a bus to some summer camp and somebody told me about Backstreet Boys. I was like, what the heck is Backstreet Boys?

And then I listened to them, I was like, this stuff's pretty good. You were like, oh, this is Backstreet Boys. I got told in the same bus ride about Backstreet Boys and WWF. Two things I had known nothing about. And they both ended up being an enormous part of my childhood. So thank you to the skinny kid that was sitting next to me. I forget what your name is. Oh, it was awesome.

It was skinny kid though. You need to eat. Yeah. You got to eat kid. You want to be. I'll tell you what, he knew his WWF and his in his back street boys. Let's do it, man. I love it. Shout out to Kevin. Why did you like Insignmore? Oh, man. I mean, JT just had to start power. Man, he just had that star power.

He did. Yeah, the star power. You've always been more of a dancer. And I feel like in sync was definitely a more choreographed dancing crew. Whereas backstreet really just focused on the vocals. I can see that though. I can see where you're going with that. Little weight, definitely more flashy for sure. I mean, yeah, for sure. And I was a, I was a big Mickey Mickey mouse club kid. No, you were not. Timber Lake, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera. Were they all in Mickey Mouse school? I don't know, Britney Spears was. I know Christina was. I don't

think she was. Yeah. There's some other people. Somebody deals in there. Goofy thinking of who else was in there? I don't know either. I forget there was there was one other it was one. They were all in there along with Ryan Gosling that's the one I was missing. I knew it. I knew it was a star-studded crew. I've never seen those little videos of him in Mickey Mouse Club when La La Land was making the rounds. Look at you. Great move. Look at you. I think La La land won an Oscar. Yeah, I didn't even need to go to the Oscar party. Saw that. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha I belonged in Hufflepuff, which is preposterous.

Let me tell you, what's crazy about the Hogwarts houses and just really Harry Potter genre, they've had to expand it for all the fans, right? So now Hufflepuff actually has like a meaning and like a reason, but I read the books All right, you ain't fooling me there was Gryffindor there was Slytherin there was Ravenclaw and literally in the books It says in Hufflepuff took all the rest Hufflepuff is just leftovers all right

The smarties were in Ravenclaw the goodies were in Gryffindor and the baddies were in Slytherin It's as simple as that you don't need to over complicate this and I ain ain't no fucking huff of puff. Alright. Very nothing wrong with leftovers, Jason. I love some good leftovers. Listen, you need leftovers. Everybody needs leftovers. That's what I'm saying. You don't need to talk about it. Everybody's playing this Harry Potter game and thinking Hufflepuff is some noble house to be in. It's not a no-boss to be in. Alrighty. We also asked Twitter to give us the name of this Harry Potter book and of the Harry Potter book of this picture. And you guys did not disappoint. No, those are feelings. Matthew Neary, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fireball.

I think Fireball is going to like that name. We also got Harry Potter in the magic house. From JJ Martinez, clearly drawing inspiration from Travis' new Hogwarts house, the magic house. Harry Potter's real house. We also got Stephen Gellone, Harry Potter and the cursed Gibronees. I like that. That's what Harry Potter was so far. Haley Crane, Harry Potter in the fight for Hermione. Not bad. Right over your head.

Yeah. That's a cool move on. Boom and soon, Harry Potter in the Masters of the Wonder League. Ooh, I don't know if we're masters of Wonder League, man, but I can see that's a fun name to say. We're certainly not. The Masters of Wonder League is a fun one. Kirk Cousins probably is being a Ravenclaw guy. Yeah.

Wasn't what didn't like, no ball. I think the whole McCoy like ace it didn't need. They need like, I don't know, Trevor. I know that Ryan Fitzpatrick, I think got like a perfect score. If I'm not mistaken, there you go. That's what I meant. I don't know if you get if it goes in the ABCD realm.

So it might have been the wrong one to say, but yeah, that's what I was going for, Jason. They're both white quarterbacks, yeah, they look alike. We also got Harry Potter in the Tush push by Cape, Kmart. The Tush push. Yeah. Of all of them, I like the Kirstie Bronies. That's my favorite or the Goblet of Fireball.

Actually, I'm lying. I like Harry Potter and the Magic House. The Magic House. Something simple about it. Now because we love doing these kinds of segments with you guys, and somehow, we actually got trapped to kind of take part in a Harry Potter segment, which he had no previous knowledge of or anything. Dude, I love that right in that Disney world.

We also got another one coming up later in this show, but right now we actually got to talk some football first. Ooh, that is right. We got a good one. Actually, we got to talk about football first. Oh, right. We got a good one. Actually, we got to talk about, no, that's right. Did you post that you, what, how's she get in? Or is that just something that we know? No, that's just something we know because I felt way too much of her to actually tweet out that I made a profile on Harry Potter.com just to take

a test that I had no idea what it was even asking me. I was in a whole different world there for about 10 minutes. And the words of the great Mari Povic, what did the test results reveal? I don't even know what that reference was. And that one's scared to tell you. I was a Griffin Dorth. I was in Harry Potter's house.

And there was honestly, there was nothing to steal it. There was a lot of people saying, there's a lot of people saying you belonged in Slytherin. I immediately called out Jason for when he said that he was in Gryffindor because it's like, if you know what house you want to be in, you can skew the answers of the test to like be in that house. So I think Jason kind of skew his answers.

I don't know, I don't know. I just answered everything honest. I was just clicking on shit. I said I wanted to walk through the, the, the, the forest path. I was a big forest path too Yeah, I mean we both got in Griffordore So I think we had a lot of you think alright So anybody that wants to be in Grifford North just pick forest

Well, stop giving away the answers, you know We don't want anybody to get into Griffordore. It doesn't belong in Grifford or trap. It's that that's how you fuck up Grittendor you're gonna have Slytherin's all wander in the house are much worse. Hufflepuffs Wander in the halls are much worse. Hufflepuffs. Alrighty before we keep going we got to talk about one of our partners. Which one? Fireball. Oh fireball takes any events to the next level, especially celebrating a big game. Yes, right fireballs iconic cinnamon flavor. Taste fire and goes down easy. Making it the ultimate crowd, please. That's why it's the number one shot in the country. Jason, you know what I like about fireball? Probably it's cinnamon taste, but what are you gonna tell me?

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I mean, NBA Finals, I always try and get to at least one NBA Finals game, depending on who's playing. I haven't been to, I went to one NHL Finals game a couple years ago when the St. Louis Blues played the summaries and lost. They lost. No, it wasn't the BRUCE. They lost. No, so was it the bronze? They beat them. They beat them in the Fin A.J. finals. They beat them in the finals, but they lost the game that I went to pretty bad. Got them. So I felt like I was bad luck. Bad

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with, because we don't know how many topics were even talk about it. Topics were getting into so let's sprinkle in the recap of all the NFL free agency tabs. If that's ends even made sense. It makes sense to me. We're going to start with the chiefs. It's the chiefs, baby. Who did who do we who haven't we talked about yet? The chiefs have officially signed from last week

Defensive and Charles a men a hue Signed a two-year contract with a value of 20 million dollars. Tell me the dollars a year must be pretty good defensive end Million dollars. Where was he from is that the guy that was a little San Fran? Dude let's go player. You're gonna enjoy that like I yeah, we are runs games really well explosive Comes inside on third down. Good place. Talk to this Mike Edward signed a one-year three million dollar deal to solidify the back end of the chiefs I like it. I like that that pick up is good. May is ball hawker man I like defensive backs that can catch the football and Mike is one of them Are you sure there's nothing more frustrating than seeing a guaranteed pick.

Just go right through some West. I agree. Just hit somebody right in the chest. I agree. Yep. Yep. How do we get here? It's a disharmed feeling.

Yeah, no, I like that pick up a lot, man. And obviously we lost my guy, Juan Thornhill, to the Cleveland Browns, baby. He's up in the home. He's in the home land, baby. He's going to live on the West side of the East side. All those guys live on the West side. They the Cleveland Browns, baby. He's up in the home. He's in the he's in the homeland, baby. He's going to live on the west side of the east side. All those guys live on the west side. They're all west side guys. You already know if we if we ever went back to Cleveland, it would be a side of the life. But yeah, I respect it. I respect

it. There's no free ways of the east side. Well, well, well, well, well, well she has lost quite a bit. Andrew Wiley signed with the commanders. My guy. 24 million dollar deal. Big Drew. I love that. Colin Saunders. I love that. Andrew man.

We're going to miss him a lot. Colin Saunders, another dude that I absolutely love. These are like locker room favorites, man. Like it's going to be interesting. This is the heart part. When you're a good team, you realize that a lot of these players are going to get picked up whenever you've done well and when the soup bowl usually means to play pretty well.

Yep, that's the out of those. See all those guys in their locker rooms. Serb Enke. Yeah, Serb Enke is gone. Agreed to a three year deal worth up to 14 and a half with the Saints. Cause there's every bit of it, man. The big one, obviously, is Orlando Brown.

It's got a four year, $64 million contract that includes 31 million signing with it's things The bangles. Oh, it's things he's officially he's officially in slitherin I know how do you feel about this hurts hurts my soul man. I heard my soul. It's like watching your best friend just Turn evil on you. Yeah, it's kind of how we felt when Javon signed with the 49ers last week. Yeah, that's tough man. He obviously, I mean, the past like two years, we've struggled beating the Bengals.

So there's been a lot of like build up and emotion of like, I would say not necessarily hate, but just like dislike towards the Bengals because they keep beating us. They keep talking about every time they do so it's like man To see him go to the dark side man. It's a it's an awkward feeling obviously Hope that he has a absolute Hall of Fame career. You know what I mean? Which nothing but the best for OB he was an unbelievable leader an unbelievable teammate on and off the field We got countless memories that I'll fucking cherish. But obviously, him going to the dark side is on him pop in O.B.

Do you think the mayor helped recruit him? I don't, I have no idea if the mayor is even still the mayor. I thought he resigned. And then we lost juju smith shuster to the New England Patriots, which was that hurt, man. Another guy that came in was really the leader of that wide receiver group for us last year. To be the first year, be a first year guy on the team and to kind of, you know, take the group and really just set the tone for work ethic and attention to detail and things like

that for a lot of the young guys. Can't say enough about what Juju was for us last year. And I'm sure he's just gonna transition that over to New England and help New England be a better team, man. Without a doubt, happy, happy got paid. You can't hate, you know what I mean? You can't help but appreciate guys that you love go out and get paid, man.

Hell yeah. All the guys that you just listed right there, Andrew Wiley, Colin Saunders, Juan Thornhill or Lano Brown, Juju. All those guys, man, I love to see those guys get paid, man. Yeah, I mean, what do you think, do you think he introduced his Bella check to TikTok finally? Big TikTok guy?

I don't know. It sounds like a fun challenge, though. Dude, Juju, you gotta get, you gotta get Bill on a TikTok, man. Just do a quick one. Just do a quick one he doesn't even know he's on it. You know what I mean? Just kind of flash him, flash the camera on him.

Did you, did you? Moving on to the Eagles who have been busy since we last talked. Boy, have we the guys that have officially been signed are a big one. Marcus Mario to sign a one year deal with the Eagles 5 million that could reach up to eight. A guy that the Eagles have been trying to get since 2015. You guys almost traded your entire organization just to get this guy in the draft chip Kelly has been He's been dying to get this guy to the Eagles and he finally got what he wanted He goes finally pick them up I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if he still wants him there

But either way Marcus is I mean he sent me home in the playoffs one time as a great quarterback. I think it's a fun pick up for you guys. I think he's a guy that can come in and when you guys ball games, if needed, and run at Jalen Herd style offense. Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing is obviously, he's had a lot of success in the league, former Top pick overall.

And he, you know, he's can do the read option. He did it all in college. That's why Chip was rumored to be interested in him. If not, for sure, interested him in 2015, you know, he'll do the read option. He did it all in college. That's why Chip was rumored to be interested in him. If not for sure interested in him in 2015, you know, he'll be able to do some things that we'd like to do with Jalen Hertz. And one have to completely change things up. So yeah, excited to see and meet Marcus Mayer.

I've never met them. So yeah, me neither. I don't think I might have just dap into him at one time in the Pro Bowl. Fletcher Cox resigns, which was a huge guy to bring back. Obviously, big time leader and a legend in the city of Philadelphia. He's the one we're waiting for. We're waiting for him. One year, $10 million worth every freaking penny. Fletch weighed in on our Nick Serianti interview, actually. He tweeted in quotes, it be your own people.

He tweeted in quotes, it be your own people. In response to the clip of Ciriani saying he lied about putting in God's big UBC play. Sometimes you know you just gotta gotta give guys energy and let them down easy. Well that ain't right. Well that ain't right. But it's definitely good always good to have a guy like Fletcher Cox on the freaking roster, man, that dudes at beast. But guys got a few quarterbacks.

Greedy Williams agreed to one year contract. James Bradbury agreed to come back for three years and so did Darius Slay, big place Slay. Big place Slay. After pump faking everybody, all right, yeah. I thought he was gone. On Twitter, I thought he was gone. I thought you were.

What's up, y'all? I'm in this thing for $42 million. $43 million guaranteed. Got a nice little payday for the next three years, brother. Congrats, man. Obviously, big fan of slay came in the same year, man. Hold it down for 20 2013, baby. He actually, he did tweet goodbye to Philly before resigning,

which is always always I'm aware I thought it was fun. Yeah, I thought it was over I mean the whole entire world didn't that slay just slay back right into That's late slide right back in there. Oh, would I say that? What Jennifer slay tweeted that you were her favorite eagle outside of Darius That's very nice. I think that that is only because I'm married to Kylie because Kylie and Jennifer of at least on Kylie side She loves Jennifer and so I feel like this is a hundred percent just Kylie

Yeah, well, you get you get attached to people and you start cheering for Yeah, no doubt so it's going But you guys have officially Say goodbye to a few guys and that's always the hard part Zach Pascal signed a two-year deal with the Cardinals. Isaac. Seemey Amal Manolu. Pascal. Isaac Seemal. Yeah, this is the one that hurts obviously our O-Line Room.

Isaac's been here for a long time ever since 2016 season so you know side of three-year 24 million dollar contract with the Steelers back with Andy Wido who's in that front office now. You know, I think it just hurts when you lose a guy that you know, it's a really really good player. Such an important piece to your room and just a great friend. You know, I think Steelers are getting a bargain, man. This dude is an unbelievable player. I'm happy that he's getting paid But man, this guy can do everything. You can do center guard. You guys are really, really going to enjoy having Isaac say a mile up there in Pittsburgh.

That's a huge chest pieces at the old line, man. You can move guys anywhere. It's a big time. But well, he's he's a pretty darn good guard. So one of the best and the least, surprised, but you know, well more power to you, Isaac go ahead and enjoy Pittsburgh, man, have some uh, Wisconsin Pittsburgh, you get go and get some uh, Pomania brothers, Pomania brothers, there you go, go get some Pomania brothers, baby, Miles Saunders agree to a four year deal uh, to the uh, Colts, right? He's over there with our guy Frank Wright. Can you pronounce one of my teammates names, right? Is it, is it not?

Is it not? Is it not? Is it not? Is it not? Is it not? He's over there with our guy Frank Wright. Can you pronounce one of my teammates names, right? He's an Alexander school Isaac, say, a mile, Sanders. It's Sanders. Do you watch any of our games? Sanders, Sanders. You're just getting the computer card. The one Kelsey, Kelsey, it's all the same. And I'm sorry, Miles. If I've been saying our name around this.

A big fan. I really am. All right. So yeah, he's with the Panthers. Let's go miles. No, excited for miles. You know, he's a big part of our offense. Obviously, you know, I think that, you know, he was a guy that whenever we call his number, he showed up. And I'm just excited for him to get an opportunity and get paid. He's an unbelievable player. Did you hear that? Did I? How can you not hear that? It's amazing. So it comes out of nowhere just like a... It's alright, what? It's alright, Kai.

Keep going? Alright. So linebacker Kaizi or white? Did I say that one wrong? No, you nailed that one. Nice. New it. Kaizi? Signing a two-year deal with the Cardinals. Getting out there. So you guys lost two safeties, two linebackers. So you guys kept your corners and lost two safeties, two linebackers. So you guys kept your corners and lost two safeties who we were getting to next. Marcus Epps and CJ Gardner Johnson, CJ Gardner Johnson. Both of them, Epps went to the Raiders, came into our division. So it'll be a challenge going up against him twice a year. And then, um, yeah, Garda Johnson went to the Lions with a, uh, an interesting scenario. Uh, yeah,

this is the hot topic right now in Philadelphia. Obviously, uh, resigned James Bradbury, uh, Daria Slay and, uh, Garda Johnson, unfortunately walks and fletch your cocks. We sign fletched to yeah, so you know CJ unbelievable really really good young player You know sign a million dollar deal with the Lions Okay, you can play about it. Agent tweeted the terms that they were negotiating with the Eagles Which is I thought very odd. I don't think I've ever really seen an agent tweet out Contract negotiations, especially ones that weren't agreed to like is a is a kind of a I don't know just never seen that move done. It was he trying to clear the air like yo like I obviously he was

phantoms set that we didn't resize CJ and there was leaked that of the the terms that he turned down was a three-year 24 million dollar deal which if you do the math on that, it's eight per year, but I think what it doesn't say is, he kinda said that it was like all back loaded, like 17 million a year, three. He just wanted to say basically,

I didn't screw up this contract negotiation, which, you know, I don't know if you did it in. I know that CJ's worth a lot more than $8 million a year, as a player, dudes a baller, but there's a lot more than $8 million a year as a player. Dude's a baller. But there's a lot of things that have to fall in place. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't really know what else I want to say on it.

Good luck to CJ dog. That's the best you could put it. I hate to see situations kind of unfold like they did. If that's, you know, if that's really the case, but like you said, he's a great football player and he's going up into Detroit where they got a great team of defensive flies around. So I mean, he's not going to bad scenario. No, he's going to a great scenario. And they got better this off season.

I mean, Detroit was really, really good at the end of the year. Yeah. Dan Campbell, maybe by Nick. Pretty dang good note. You know, I think there was a very bright future up there in Detroit And you guys just got an unbelievable player there for a steal if you just look at his playing ability no question about it So free free agency questions is having an agent versus a player wrapping themselves when it comes to free agency What is there like a do you have any like opinions on which ones better or if it's silly to just kind of player rep?

I think most people should definitely have an agent without a question. You'd be almost dove into player rep in earlier. I did. Yeah, I early on when I was redoing my first contract, I was thinking about trying to do it myself, talk to my agent really to fire them and we came to an agreement and man, it's the best thing I ever did because they got me more money than I thought I was gonna get and Yeah, you would definitely sell for sure they do over the first offer and I was like all right Let's sign this puppy and then they were like Jason We can get more out of this you don't sign the first offer silly you don't That's what I've been doing.

I see it's a lot of money. I would take that very, I'd take this fast as possible. Can I sign that now before it's off the table? I think it's beneficial for most players to have an agent. Now, there are some guys that are doing it without an agent shout out to Laramie Tunzel, who's sounding great contracts by himself. That a boy. I mean, just very impressive.

But I think it's beneficial for a number of reasons. One is, hopefully they oversee the deal, they have connections, they know what you're worth, like all of these things. But then also, it's nice to just have a buffer between you and the team. So that, the business side can remain like kind of separate from you, you know what I mean?

You already know. Somebody comes to me like, hey, you know, why haven't you responded to the, what I'm like, man, from you. You know what? You already know somebody comes to me like, hey, you know, why haven't you responded to the, what are I'm like, man, I don't have nothing to do with that. That's my man, JB's handle that. I'm just here to play football. I'm just here so I don't get fired. So I think, you know, I do think it's important for most guys.

Now, I do think they should make the agent process harder to get, I think there's a lot of bad agents, I really do. I think a lot of guys get misinformed. I think Frequency is hard to navigate in general because there's a lot of competition. You know, usually there's like a top tier of guys that every team is gonna go after that is in need of that position and has the cap to.

And then, you know, after that, you know, money kind of dries up quick. And you know, a lot of guys end up signing deals in the free, in the market, that quite frankly, I think is below what they should be at. And I think a lot of that sometimes comes down to the agent, just misinformer them or trying to drag it out and then all the sudden Use don't have an option and I think that happens across the league to a lot of guys quite frankly I think they should make it much more difficult to get an agent's license and certification. I think there's a lot of bad agents Across the NFL. I think there's a lot of misinformed players

Guys sign bad contracts. I mean the numbers at a release Don't tell the whole story, which is one of the things that I can't stand like, oh, do you believe they signed that guy for that? And I'm like, dude, you don't, that might not be that. That could be half of that. You have no idea what the terms of this deal are. I cannot, and agents will tell the team to release, you got to release the high number. I mean, my guy needs to be a top three guys, so they can go over crew more guys. I'm like, there is way too much, honestly, bull crap on the side of agents and things that are to release in the media, just to artificially inflate things.

And it's misleading. It's misleading to players. In my opinion, the NFLPA should do more about this. I mean, the NFLPA does a great job. In general, I'm not here to crush the NFLPA. I think that they should be making it, making the agent process much more difficult and getting better representatives.

Weed out the bad ones, man. Yeah, man. Find a way to be out the bad ones. There's too many guys that I think are not represented well. And on top of that if there is a situation like I want to get Laramion here and let's talk about what his situation is. Dude. That is a great point. Yeah. I would love to know how he's trusting it because there's no way I can trust myself

to look over a contractor or anything like that. So there's got to be some type of legal team that he is teaming up with. Well yeah, what do you probably does he pays a lawyer or a law firm, and a certain law, hourly rate, or whatever it is to look over the contract and make sure everything's dotted. Yeah. I would bet. But I think it does help when you're like the best tack

on the NFL and you're gonna make top down. Everybody wants you. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's able to, you know, he's got a big hammer there being as good as he is. Do you find out what's going on in the Eagles organization as, as like, it comes across through like Adam Schiffner and everybody? Are you kind of like a head of hand? Sometimes you find out over the media.

Actually, the majority of the time you find out over media, I would say. Yeah. And then I think sometimes though there's some moves that happen that throughout the week you've kind of heard rumblings of or you know it's been leading to that direction. You've heard going into free agency, you've heard through the grapevine that you know we're interested in this guy or this guy. And then when it happens you're like, oh, it doesn't give us an example. Give us an example. I don't want to, how do I want to do that? Um, I think sometimes you know, sometimes you don't know,

I mean, the team doesn't know. So you can't know everything. I mean, these things are happening, you know, on a deal by deal basis, you know, they might go one guy, then all of a sudden he's gone and it's on to the next one and you don't have a clue what's happening. So it's kind of similar to the draft a little bit, but you have even less control in the draft.

Yeah, unless I have like a random conversation with somebody who's in a situation like that, and they kind of spill the beans on where everything is, or if I just randomly like hit up Brett Beach every single day and the off season to figure out what we're doing with the chiefs, he'll sometimes tell me. I'll tell you what is a good way to know who you're kind of targeting and free agency is if they ask or if you kind of get told that they're interested in the guy and you kind of help with the recruiting process. Yeah. I'll never get one.

Jeff Stoutlin told me that they were interested in getting Brandon Brooks. I'm like, dude, please get this dude here. He would be so beneficial. He's an unbelievable player. big, strong, fast. So I made sure I'm texting Brandon Brooks throughout for agency. Nice, and he came. So.

I think he was probably the money, but you know, it's nice to let somebody know you want to play with him. And I definitely wanted to play with him. For sure, yeah, no, I remember, I remember it was like 2015, somewhere around there and there was a Rodney Hudson our center had just went to Oakland and there was big question like man Where are we gonna go with centers? I'm like man I went up to John Dorsey was our GM at the time of like John. I know I know a center

He's he might be tied up on the team right now, but I know a center if you want to go get him You would I think you'd fit in perfectly you tried to get the chiefs to trade for me? 1,000% every year. Well, not now. I just got Creed Humphrey. Yeah, no, we don't need to know. But before Creed, before Creed and honestly before Mitch Morris,

but there was a one point in time where I think there actually was a call or a conversation and didn't go very far. I almost, that almost happened. Is that what you're telling me? No. All right. It was a call or a conversation and didn't go very far. I almost, that almost happened. Is that what you're telling me? No. All right. It was a call that never came close.

But I was, I did. I mean, that was about as far as me trying to recruit Jason Kelsey gone. But yeah, I feel like the free agent, I mean, you got to be able to talk to somebody, call somebody, and have a conversation with them, make them feel comfortable about where they're signed and stuff like that.

That just goes with being a good teammate, reaching out to the guys and that have conversation with them, make them feel comfortable about where they're signed and stuff like that. That just goes with being a good teammate, reaching out to the guys that have just signed, or you know what I mean, all that is just making sure you set the tone for the chemistry when everybody walks in the building, man. For sure, for sure. I'll tell you what I'm not going to do.

I'm not going to do goodbyes. I got to text some of these guys. We lost a lot of great players with the thought of it as a guys' event. They've been important people to our organization. So, you know, I think, yeah, just it sucks. So that's the sad part about free agency is, it's sad and happy.

You're happy guys are getting paid. You're happy guys are doing well, but obviously, you know, you don't want to lose any teammates. You kind of want to play these guts forever and it just doesn't happen. Yeah, I'm with you brother. Most interesting part of free agency to use so far. What was the most interesting one? We got maybe Jets yeah, I think the Roger situation with the Jets and Packers. That's the most interesting one to me

Yes, pretty good. That's gonna go down another whole fame quarterback in the AFC got to love it Z released by Dallas. Yeah, man That's last last last play he ever had in the Dallas uniform is. That's a hard one. That's a spoiler right there. Jalen Ramsey to the dolphins. I mean, that was interesting because they, they're only a year away from that Super Bowl and that defense looked like they were a stellar top tier defense. I think Bobby Wagner left. Jalen Ramsey leaves. The only one left now is Aaron Donald and he's talking to he's said on camera. He said he doesn't really need football anymore. So it's

got to make sense for him to play. I think one that isn't really on here but I think it should be is the Chicago Bears Panther's trade for DJ more in the first. I think Chicago's low key this off season. They're making some moves Simon some good players. GM came from KC Well, yeah, he's doing some good things and they got some really good draft Exaddle as well as they've given fields they've given field some tools now to be successful with on offense So I really think that they've made a lot of good moves. And it also kind of tells you what, you know, they're gonna do in Carolina.

You know, Frank Wright down there, I guarantee, former court of bag. Frank Wright's in Carolina. Man, we just talked about. Yeah. I think that'll be interesting scenario. Obviously, Derek Card of the Saints. I mean, shut out to the Saints for giving them

another chance, man. I think he got a bad rap in Oakland and Vegas. If you look at the stats, it's the best quarter. He's over a decade. He's great. I base football off of guys that can just in time make decisions that change the exit. Anything is going on. So me and Derek are playing in a pro ball out in Hawaii together.

And by the end of the first quarter, really the middle of the second quarter, the defense that you're playing has seen every single play that you got. Unless you have like a trick play in your back pocket that you want to pull out at some point, these just have them. So it's like, you got to start improving if you want to make something shake. So I'm telling Derrick Hard that I'm going to, I'm going to run this round. I'm going to run that round. And I think I had like 180 yards and two touchdowns.

Is this the one? Did Derek Hard get you that Kia? No, he did. Derek Hard got you that Kia? Andy Dalton did it. And that was, I think he don't just. And that's another BUNS stat of like three catches

for 36 yards and a touchdown. It got me a free car. But Derek Hard got me the most yards that I ever had in a, you know, Pro Bowl. I will say, I don't. And he threw two tuddies. And he was just, I don't really know. I was supposed to run a corner. I had in a, in a pro bowl. I will say I don't need through two studies and he was just I don't know how supposed to run a corner. I told him about to run a corner post. And he was like, all right, they'll any through that thing right on the money, right on time,

study. I will say I don't know much about what happened in a with the Raiders and Derek car. He had a lot of good numbers. Everybody I've talked to you that's played with the guy has good things to say about him. Offensive lineman, skill players, so hopefully they works out in New Orleans. They got a pretty good team surrounding them too. That team really, what they're missing was a quarterback. They've their defense has been and still is a very, very solid defense. Offensively, you know, they've they've struggled to move on after Drupurys. So hopefully Derek Car can be the answer. Well, I mean,

Derek Car has got to battle it out. James Winston. Oh, I'm trying. James James was playing good. Before we got hurt, right? And he's, he's throwing like 30 touchdowns and 30 intersections in one season. It's crazy. Yeah, no, that's not a good one-to-one ratio is bad, though, right? Listen, paid man, he did it. Let's move on to free agency rumors. Let's get to what everyone wants to hear about Jason, what we know about the free agency rumors.

And we got a big one in the Eagles rumors. You guys just brought in Texas running back. The number one kind of rated running back. Be John Robbins said, Yes, sir. I was actually lifting this morning, saw him in the building, met him. Nice. Let me tell you, looks the part.

Ooh, looking pretty good. Listen, that's half of the, you can pass the eye test. You got a chance. First test, eye test. Right now. Doesn't mean anything. Absolutely amazing.

Absolutely nothing. No, I mean, I think that means we're drafted, all right? That's what that means. That's not, that's that's. We're bringing it, why would we bring it into the building for now draft? Because you bring in everyone. You're going to bring it probably to top five running backs

if you're bringing in running backs. So this is a part of the draft process. They bring in all of the draftees, not necessarily all of them, but you got 30 up to 30 team visits that you can go on as a draftee. And you kind of pick and choose the ones that you know fit your Your skill set the best I would assume or give you the best chance to get the highest draft pick That's a blow. Oh, you you have 30 choices

You get the teams get 30. Oh the teams get 30. See this news me. You want to start this over? this news to me, you want to start this over? I think so the teams get 30 guys to bring in and they brought in B. John Robinson. Nice. You guys are definitely drafting him first round. Yeah, that's what that means. 100%. It also could mean something else because the San Francisco 49ers brought me in on a team visit. And I remember Jim Harball coming up and doing the assignment. No, they came up to me, pumped up, a lot of energy shook his

hand. We talked about some Euclid Beach in his year, early years going to Cleveland for the summers. Harball, Jim Harball. Oh, yeah, the, he, him and John Harball used to go up to Euclid Beach in the summers, man. He was cool talking a little Cleveland talk with him. But he, the first thing he did was shake my hand, grab my arm and kind of size me up, look me up and down. Did not pass the eye test because who did they draft? Vance McDonald, who 1,000% pass the eye test. It's good eye test guys.

It's a good eye test. If I get a plus, I test a plus plus plus. The guy was a freaking nature, man. He's absolute beast. And then yeah, where else? Where else do you have any fun? I went to places, I think. Well, three.

I went to St. Louis, Kansas City, and then the Philadelphia Eagles were my last stop. It was a very late in the process. Wow. I went to Capitol Grill with Howard mud and Eugene Chung. And I was like, what is this crazy, often to line coach Howard mud he's a very unique person to say the least and I knew that he had

coached Jeff Saturday for years who obviously was one of the guys that I looked up to as an undersized center coming out of college I thought it went good it felt like it went well well it did because they ended up trafing you they did yeah met Andy first time did he was, was the stash bright red then, or was it kinda like, starting to change a little bit? It was big red. Big, big red. All right now, I got, I got another good one.

I got, I got, but the other Harball went to the Ravens. The Ravens asked me to come in. I go to the Ravens facility, I'm meeting everybody. I meet Harball, we're talking about Euclid Beach again. Harball brothers just love talking to you. No, we had some good combos. We had some good combos. And it was, they were awesome.

There's awesome guys. Obviously, John was also at a university Cincinnati as well. He stopped through there. But I met one of the guys that I had, I wanna say idolized, I just always looked up too, because Uncle Don, our uncle, who also played college ball. You do? Yeah, he was up in school and ran into a Azi Newsom, or went to a signing

that Azi Newsom was at and Azi Newsom at the time was the GM of the Baltimore Ravens. And he went to the signing when Azi was playing for Cleveland. So obviously Hall of Fame, Cleveland Browns, tight end. And he got a picture signed to the Kelsey boys with Ozzy Newsman's signature on as him dunking on somebody in the end zone. And man, I was excited to meet Ozzy and tell him, you know what I mean? Like dude, I'm a Cleveland kid.

I saw you. This is like, I see this picture in my mind when I think Ozzy Newsman just being stud. And I walk into the room and it was immediately sit down. Sit down. I stand still. I like this. He hits the clicker on the TV and it's like six plays in a row of just personal file penalties. You had a bunch in college dude I had way more but it was it was at least one a game and he went through it and he he paused it after after the fifth one just paused it put the put the remote down and just looked at me like Sun are you an asshole? Well after you just played all those clips, I don't wanna like, I wanna, I mean,

clearly you know I'm a champ. You just showed me all of these clips. You just showed me all of these clips. I'm like, do I need to clean that up? Yeah, I need to clean that up. It's a 15-yard penalty. But I'm a good dude. I promise you I'm a good dude.

I'm not hard to work with. I'm a team guy. I just played a little bit of fire that I need to good dude. I promise you I'm a good dude. I'm not hard to work with. I'm a team guy. I just play a little bit of fire that I need to control sometimes. And yeah, he was just kind of staring. He was like, yeah, man, we don't need assholes. Yeah, I was just like, well, noted. And yeah, that was something that I had to work on.

Was those personal file penalties still had a few in my earlier years. Hopefully I don't have anymore. I kind of had one already last year, but we're moving on. We're moving. You know what I mean? We're doing better. Another fun one.

We're quick. I went to the at the time Washington, Redskins, now the Washington commanders, Mike Shanahan walked into that room not knowing a single thing about anybody. So I walk in, I meet the office of coordinator Kyle Shanahan walked into that room not knowing a single thing about anybody. So I walk in, I meet the office of coordinator Kyle Shanahan. And obviously Mike Shanahan, Big Denver Broncos legend. Right? One of those super balls with L-boy. Yep.

And I'm meeting all these guys and me Kyle Shanahan as the OC. I'm like, oh man, nice to meet you. That guy was a letter. You've seen really smart. And then I go in and I meet the Titan Coz, nice to meet you man. That guy was electric. You've seen really smart. And then I go in and I meet the tight end coach in his Sean McVeigh. I'm just like, damn, and this dude has a lot of energy man.

That dude was really fun to talk to about football man. And he's seen really excited about getting better. And then like I'm passing everyone in the hallways, they knock on the door, introduce me to Matt LaFlure. I'm like, hey man, Matt, you've seen like, he was like fun to work with too. Like, man, these knock on the door, introduce me to Matt LaFlure. And I'm like, hey, man, Matt, you've seen that he was like fun to work with too. Like, man, these dudes are all like, young, it's a good crew.

Like a good energy, and then I go and meet the Don, who's Mike Shanahan, and he's talking to me about how the tests that they just put me through, that I scored very high on the problem solving test. There was this puzzle, the therapist said in front of me, or a psychiatrist, I should say one of those. I'm not sure which one's right either.

Yeah. Put puzzles in front of me and ask me to decipher them or figure them out and tell me why. And it was just like I was going through all of this and it didn't last very long. But when I got out of it, when I went into Mike Shanahan's office, he told me it's like, I was one of the highest graded on those.

And I was just, I was like, oh man, that's gotta be a good thing, right? Yeah, that's the problem. That's all, man. Sounds great. I'm good at getting out of problems. Does that mean I have a lot of problems? Like in my head, I'm like,

I don't know if this is the way. You just have a lot of experience getting out of it. Yeah, I don't know. There's a good thing. Screw it. Either way They they drafted a Jordan Reed who's a dog for quite a bit of time. Was it? Yeah, yeah, he was a dog They drafted an after you got drafted though. Correct. Yeah, yeah, that was a fun little fun little kind of tour I went on though, man had a fun time kicking it with Rex Ryan I went on a lot of interviews because I had a red flag and they wanted We got a we got an interview. It's got a check out He has good film good film very Interesting and what this guy's been doing though. Yeah, we also got some chiefs rumors. That's right chiefs rumors

Patrick my homes has mysteriously well not mysterious i guess uh... very subtly liking some tweets about the angel dandruff hopkins and odel beckham junior not right now our right now one is from the new uh... chief uh... charles omen of you uh... that says dandruff hopkins come on fam we wait on you chiefs king

okay like that i like that pound the other pond said it like you were part you chiefs king. Okay, like that. I like that pound. Yeah, the ponds said it like you were part of chiefs kingdom. I like that. Um, yeah, I mean, I've done a few times. You cannot go wrong with a guy like D hop. I do know that he is with the cardinals. So that might be tampering. I'm not sure what is qualified under I mean, just liking a tweet. I don't think that's tamperingin just liking a tweet. All right never mind it. Um well, no, I think our guy tweeted it but Either way, he was he yeah, yeah, it's definitely tamperin. All right. The others from Desbriant that says I want to be surprised of Odell or de hop go to the the chiefs. I wanna be surprised that both guys go to the chiefs. Mm-hmm.

Stubble down there with the second part of the tweet. We got some dogs in the receiver room right now though. That's the thing. I get it. Odell, DeHop, top to your guys. Top to your guys, perennial. You guys got all that money left to spend on receivers, right? What money?

Yeah, we don't have very much, I don't think. Prandiol money left to spend our receivers right? What money? Yeah, we don't have very much. I don't think I actually I don't know where our cap is right now Sure how close we are to it. Have you liked any other tweets? I'm not big on Twitter I'm not very big on Twitter, but what I do go on Twitter I will like a tweet if it's not tampering. I don't think liking a tweets tamper good point Tweeting a tweet could be perceived as tamperin. No, here, I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this.

This is what Brett Veech told me. He said that, I'm not gonna tell you this. Stay the fuck out of my way. Don't fucking call me anymore about this Travis. Stop calling me. Right, sounds good. I don't want you brother. I don't want you brother.

Oh no, no, no, yeah, he looks good. He looks good. He looks good. Well, somebody no yeah he looks good he looks good he looks good he looks good. Well somebody keep... he goes with... you keep Travis out of my office for the next couple weeks. All right players as we've reached the segment where we have moved beyond football in some ways. Oh this is a new segment. It is. Players as is a new segment. We obviously did the Hogwarts houses last week. This week, in honor of Rissa Del Puerto on Twitter. I know with the pronounce. I think I got that. All right. Since you all did Hogwarts houses, can you please do NFL players as Pokemon? Yes, Rissa. Pokemon. Listen, man. Do you remember the Pokemon days? I do. I remember

a, we were so, my game boy. I had the blue and the red one. I do, I remember, I'm a game boy. I had the blue and the red one. Both of those games, I think there was another, there's like a gold one at some point. Yeah, there was only Pikachu or something like that. I did them all. Anything on the Game Boy I did. I haven't done it since,

well actually I didn't take that back. I also did Pokemon Snap on Nintendo 64. Got all those Pokemon. So I've been catching them all for a long time. Traver, you a big Pokemon guy? I already knew the answer to this. Yeah, no. For the sake of the plot.

I was about it. I was about it because, you know, I mean, it was our childhood, but other than that, I haven't really kept up with too much Pokemon since our childhood. Who was your starter in Pokemon? Who's my starter? If I could get a Charizard, man, I mean... Charizard, you won't start with Charizard. Charizard is the end product

You get three choices you get Charmander ball the store squirtle Original choices, which we start charmillion charmillion is another again. That's down the road. Can you go straight to Charmillion? You got to start off with the Adolescent years you got to start off with the Charmander Charmander Charmander. So your're a big fire guy. Big fire guy. I think Charmander was the first one I chose to. Something about fire is just more intimidating than water. And it was like a dinosaur. And reefs.

Well, they're all dying. I mean, Bulbasaur definitely is kind of dinosaurs. Yeah, but he's not a fun one. He's like kind of like a, what was Bulbasaur's? Bulbasaur was kind of like your leaf eating. It's like a vegetarian. That's why I think I always went for the Charmander. Charmander seemed like a carnivore. Yeah. Um, who knows really. And squirtle, I mean, it's just hard to get I in hindsight, I like squirtle a lot, but when you

first start the game, squirtle is not a good thing. You hear the name squirtle and you're just like, I'm not impressed. Yeah. Yeah. So what are we going to squirt them they should have But you got a super Joker kid real real original water Pokemon name Squirtle. All right here we go We're gonna get to the players as okay. I guess we'll get to me and you last let's save us The first one. I think this one's pretty obvious. We got AJ Brown. Oh, that's the easy one. Yeah, I think I think we're gonna go Michoke. Michoke on AJ Brown. He is a absolute, he looks, I mean, it's H.E. Brown right there. I think this one's pretty self-explanatory.

That's Swole Batman. Pokemon's ripped. Swole Batman's ripped. And yeah, that's, that's, one of these looks like the other. That's H.E. Brown. I hope the NFL guys that were listening, nobody takes offense to this because, this is our producer. I hope you all take offense. I hope you all take offense. listening, nobody takes offense to this because this is our producer.

I hope you all take offense. This is all our producers. We had nothing to do with this. I have something to do with it. Yeah, no, they already got rid of mine. All right. Where are we, tonsil? This might be my favorite one.

It's a, as, of course, coughing. This one, not so much for looks or temperament, it's more just, I think it's in reference to his iconic draft day video that really ruined his entire draft stock, which is he's killing out of. He's killing out of. I mean, he's one of the best tackles in the NFL.

He's making $24 million a year, whatever it is. Yeah, he's doing all right. So yeah, Larry M. Tonsil, coughing. The gas mass, baby, lock it in Tyree kill. What are you going? Who are you going with Tyree kill? I'm going Pikachu. He is the most electric player in the national football league. You can't say anything wrong about the guy. He is a small version of the most electric player. And I think that's Pikachu in a nutshell. And honestly, Pikachu, Pokemon,

I always thought Pikachu was like that, the main character. The Muzaira. He runs. Well, you're not, I mean, in the show, he was the main character. I think Pikachu always got the most amount of love. And then there's obviously the one game

where you had to play with him. So I think, you know, Pikachu is for sure the iconic character when you think of Pokemon lightning and when you play with super smash brothers, you know, he would do that. You know, you would do that little maneuver. The, you know, reminds me of Tyra Kill. So I think that's a good, I think that's a good comp. Thank you. I knew one guys.

I knew one Brady. You got to go with the best Pokemon of all time the most powerful one Mutu, that's right dude. It looks like him right there and you see it. Yep, and you can see it almost in the cheekbones very very Brady Underwear I actually have a pair of Brady underwear is in that purple color right there I got my time, Brady's I'm trying to be great out here that purple color right there. I got my Tom Brady's. I'm trying to be great out here, Doc. All right.

Andy Reed. Andy Reed. Um, I don't know. I don't know this one. This one's name is Alacazam. Look at that mustache. Looks just like big. We

big red right there. We need to change them red. We need to just change them from yellow to red. And then we'll be a perfect combination. That's we're going to make a red. We need to just change them from yellow to red and then we're gonna make a red Alec as am either that is just a red mustache. That's pretty good right there. Yeah, that'd be accurate Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence Oh, we got I think you're gonna like this one I don't know if you know who this Pokemon is we got Jake's

Look at that. Stop it. That's a fucker. That's, I mean, it's the hair. It's the hair. It's fucked up, but it is 100% the hair. George Kills also got a picture that works really well for Jakes. He's got the locks. He's got the locks for sure.

That's funny. So I hate this. Trevor, man, I hope you don't take offense to it, but. Justin Herbert. I hate this. Trevor, I hope you don't think offense to him. Justin Herbert, Jolteon. I mean, this is. Ooh, okay, chargers. That's the only reason this event is.

Yeah, I see it. Yeah. Cool. Electric Pokemon for an electric player who plays for the bolts. Who's there when Jameson? If he's the electric who feeds a charger is there another charger Pokemon. I mean, there's a bunch of electronic poke electric Pokemon, but I think the one that

sums up dirt when James attitude the most is poly wrath. Look at him. He just looks like a bully. What? He hits just so hard that you start seeing that little spirals. He's got power and then he's like, what's going on? Well, dirt when James is a bully because he power bond me.'re like, what's going on? You're doing like this. There with James is a bully because he power bond me.

It's fucking right. I mean, he doesn't do more than just you. He plays like a bully. So, um, Antonio Brown. Maybe, maybe not, not a league anymore. Who we got? We got gyrodose. I don't know if that's how you pronounce it.

That's how I always say that. I don't get it. Well, gyrodose is well known't know if that's how you pronounce it. That's how I always say it. I don't get it Well gyrodose is well known for its fierce temper in reputation for causing nothing but destruction Which I think you see a pattern And then of course gyrodosis iconic move is pool where I think we all saw Antonio Brown without his gyro dos and that pool that one day. Alrighty. That's it. That's all we got. I don't know.

There's nothing else we really got. No, no, no. We got to get, we got to get me and you. Oh, yeah. Me and Travis. Do you want to do me? Yeah. I'll do you.

You're, you're the, uh, the snorren one. You're the fat one. Yeah. That big fat one. Of course, snorlax, let's say Snorlax. Snorlax was one of my favorite characters. I idolized Snorlax as a refusal to get out of the house growing up. He just was not a big mover. And I've really He's just a big fan for a long time. Snorlax. So I will gladly be Snorlax Trapped our entire childhood growing up My my entire childhood you'd never realized this because you were sleep and you were a part of the snoring I know I lost the trim mom snored. I know snorgrowing You're a dad snored every yes you did. No, I did. I know for a fact you did I Listen to you. It was like a choir at night.

Everybody had their own toes. There was only one person you and I both know there was only one person that was bringing the house down. And that's mom. She was up on the third floor. And if we didn't close the little door that went up to the third floor, you were sleeping. She was, I mean, wall rattling snores was Mama Kelsey.

No, it was, it was wild. It was wild. And we know now she has sleep. I didn't even know what that was at the time. Her head dad, and then turns out everybody's got sleep apnea in the family other than Trab. Yeah. Well, and I've been tested and they said, you don't, but I also snore, which I think

means you do. So who knows? Who am I? Which Pokemon am I? Travel, you're a tough one, because you're too handsome to really compare to a lot of Pokemon, but I think, sorry, I tried to go the flanking route.

Like which Pokemon is the most deceptive and the most trickery, because you're a man of tricks. So I went with Mr. Mine. I think it's a great Pokemon. I think it really suits you. He has the ability to fit in really with any crowd, very good at copying people and taking dance moves and just watching them

and then doing it. So I'm on the strom. I just been a mind my whole life man. I just been running routes like receivers and acting like yeah no I don't know I guess I mean that's I mean what that is is that's a game day fit right there. That is a game day fit. That looks like a game day fit made by like some Italian designer that is trying to change the way we look at fashion. He looks like a make sure of like a Pinocchio and I don't know some evil spirit. So what designer would that be?

Would that be a money? That looks like a money. Marnie. Marnie. I could see Marnie getting getting crazy with it. Yeah. I can see that. That's pretty good though. The mind, the ultimate flagger. I'm just I'm just creating an illusion in front of you.

Creating an illusion. This is gotta be the least creative Pokemon, right? They just put generally pretty human on there. It's like an amazing. All right, Mr. Mime. All right, we're running out of we got 149, 90 suckers. Where do we get the 150th from? I saw a mime on the street today, and I thought of my work as a Pokemon. That's pretty good. Very odd to just have one human on there, and it's a mime. Well, that's fun.

No, it's fun. Players as, let us know what you guys think of it. If you guys have any other Pokemon that you think me and Jason would be better off suited with, please let us know. And yeah, keep shooting us with these players as we like this segment. It's a fun segment for it. Yeah, or if you have a better name for this segment, because players as seems a little off.

So if you can think of a better name, we'll take that too. All right. We're going to get to the Rich Eisen interview. The reason everyone is here listening this episode My guy once again the rich and I as an interview is brought to you by Accelerator energy drink and we're drinking the same one today all right now. What do you think? Dude I drink one I drink a lime made one the other the other day Dude it was really good. I don't know what the flavor was, but it was cherry limeade

That's it cherry limeade. I know That was a good one back in my hand berry lemonade What else we got a peach paradise is another good one Yeah, there's there's a few good Down they get into drinks. Yeah, I love these things trick them every day Yeah, Trav, you're about to watch one of the Godfathers a sports center, school me when it comes to interviews. So, yeah, without further ado, here's the rich eyes in the interview.

Rich, the rave me. The cameras now put you on. All the cameras are now on. That's how I can tell we're rolling that you're full of shit. That's how I can tell we're rolling that you're foolish. That's how I can tell we're rolling. It's good to see you. It's a pleasure. Thank you so much.

Same here. Our guest is one of the guys who made Sports Center. He is also the first on air talent for NFL Network. That's true. The first man I believe to run a 40 and wing tip. That's true. Yes, and yes, lace up Zenia Crocs. Not to be I'm specific.

You know, it's so difficult to not be a control free and be in the NB and the answer is opposed to the question. You drive the segment. I'll be quiet. First of all, I would much prefer that you take the segment to introduce myself. Yes. He's a great guy.

He's a great guy. His name's Rich Eisen here on New Heights. By the way, congrats on this pod. Thank you so much. It's been fun starting it. I've talked to Trav more than I've talked to him. Our entire career. That's cool.

So it's been fun to kind of, I mean, between the pod and then a soup bowl with the family, which you're kind of enough to do with my folks. We've been closer as a family than ever before. How great is that? Yeah. That is great. Yeah. And it was great having your folks on my show. Yeah. Yeah, so I? Yeah. That is great. Yeah.

And it was great having your folks on my show. Yeah. Yeah. So I've had Ed, I've had Donna, I've had Travis, and here I am on yours first. I have my, yeah. That is what we would call an upset. Like I didn't, I didn't see that one coming. Yeah.

So I guess, but we kind of leads into a topic I did want to ask. Okay. Okay. What do you think of the athlete podcasts that are out now? As someone who is a professional journalism, yes, has been, you've seen the evolution of media. Okay. What do you think of all,

because they're only gonna eat more, right? Sure. Like that was the success of them. They're gonna eat this popping up. It's great. Look, I mean, when the NFL Network started 20 years ago, by the way, the first show is called NFL Total Access, which is still called that name,

but they called it that for a reason, because fans want access more than ever before. And so I took the approach for my job, like I'm kind of gonna be in the middle of what NFL Network is going to be and how it might evolve and become that I'm going to take the fan and put them in my shoes like the fly in the wall all that conversation.

Fans can't get enough of inside real talk. And so you and your brother are providing that here. If you're talking about the other athlete podcasts like Brandon Marshalls and the pivot and rest of what I'm seeing out there, this is real talk. Like you're getting real conversation, you know, part of the conversation at the Superbowl was about your teammate, you know, and James and Bradbury before the game and what, you know, I guess Debo referred to him not to stir anything up here on your high spot. But that's the sort of real talk you'll sometimes get out of these podcasts. And I I think it's great. I think it's great. And I think it's great that, you know, you have a platform

and you can come on here and control your own content. You are correct. Like that's what this day and age is about. I need to press conference. No, you need a podcast. So I think it's great. I really do. Awesome. That was one of the reasons we started, honestly, was first of all, seeing some other

guys that had some success. And you're alone. We were certainly nervous of, you know, if the season not going well, you know, how the fans are going to react to it, these are all very big concerns going into it. Got really lucky to be both ones in the strip bowl. First year we did it. Incredible. But I think the other big piece is what you just said,

is I have the ability to talk and say exactly what I think, and control that narrative, instead of saying it through somebody else, which, I mean, journalism has done that really, really well for a long time. Yeah. There's a lot of, I have nothing but respect for all the beat reporters and Philadelphia and everybody that covers anything. No, you don't.

No, you don't. I do. Well, I should say some. You're right, not everybody. Yeah. But the vast majority, yeah, it's been, it's been fun to be able to do that. And it's been cool to be able to have that. And it's been cool to be able to have that connection with fans that I haven't really had before.

Right. And you know, like you let everyone know you were coming back by making a video, you know, pounding several beers. Like I said, you just want to talk to one. Okay, it was great. And well, for me, that would be multiple. You're one hammer down. It'd be a sipping night for me, that would be multiple. You're one hammer down. It'd be a sipping night for me.

But so you were able to do it on your own terms, your own way with your own brand, with your own style, and get it out there. I mean, there's nothing more powerful than that. I guess I should also, when you're talking about players' podcasts, if I don't mention Taylor to Juan and the voice is naming him, Compompat. That's right.

Yeah, you know, all the, yeah, they'll be very upset if I don't mention them. So they're sensitive. They are. They will come after some folks. They're sensitive. They're sensitive. So I just wanted to mention those guys,

Kim and Shana. I do mean this when I told Travis I was coming here. Yeah. Or when we told Travis you were coming here and you had a good SNL and we were talking to you. We were talking to you. Yeah, I know, I know.

It's insane. Never in a million years. Sorry. Yeah. Couldn't be at the combine. I've got a host, Saturday night live. It's like that's an acceptable reason. Right.

Yeah. It sounds so absurd. Like it does. It's a right. It reminds me of a time in high school where I asked a girl out on a date and her answer was, I can't do it this weekend. I'm going to Yugoslavia. And I thought that's an elaborate way to cover your tracks of saying no.

You know, it's a matter of fact, but her family did actually go on a trip to use a stopby app. It was not. No, it turned out to be true, but it just sounded so absurd. It had to be false. And that's the way, sorry, I can't go to the comma.

I got a host S&L. Yeah. That's what that sounds like to me. That's it. So, but he's going to be great at it. I think he'll, he's going to kill it. If it's so well into him, I mean, they make it so easy for the host,

and that whole crew up there, I'm sure that's gonna be awesome. I can't wait to see where it's there. You're gonna cook up. Yeah. When I told him I was talking to you, he was like, you know, I, that's, he was so excited. He's like, man, I wish I could be there.

Yeah. Because we grew up, you, you, Stuart Scott, yeah. Dan Patrick, Scott M. All you guys at Sports Center, yeah, we're one of the reasons that we were into sports. Besides loving and playing, like we could not wait to go to the TV and watch Sports Center. And you guys were unbelievable.

I love doing it, man. Yeah. I loved doing it. Seven years I did it. And I was 26 when I first got there. Yeah. They hired me out of Reading, California. Yeah.

I was a local sports anchor in Northern California. The Reading Chico market, it's entirely possible, Aaron Rogers was watching me as he was eating his fruitloose in Chico. By the way, I'm serious. It's entirely possible where he was living at the time and if he turned on Channel 7, he was watching me do my thing.

And ESPN, I sent a tape to a headhunter and they found me there. And age 26, I was right on Sports Center. And time of my life, man. I see a, I'll see a, you know, a video, somebody will tweet out like a highlight of me calling a Miami of Ohio game and 99 of a Sports Center highlight. And it just, it looks like it's, it does look like a different person. It just feels like out of body watching that. Yeah. I've never thought about that. Like it all gets

lots because you haven't lost your hair yet. Jason, it's going if you just don't even don't even start. Now, you're good, you're in good shape. I would, you're not, you're good. You're in good shape. I would, you're not, you're not, it's not, you don't got the creep going on just yet. How old are you? 35. Yeah.

Yeah, you're good. Yeah, you're good. So right around, that's when I started to lose mind. So I think you're fine, but yeah, it just felt, you know, it just feels completely weird and it was just a different, it was an amazing time. Yeah. I loved every minute of it.

And you went, do you go straight from sports to the NFL? Yeah, right, and 2003, I was getting married and my contract came up eight days before my wedding. Yeah. So I got married seven days after leaving ESPN or being handed a cardboard box and told to leave. Yeah, man. Yeah. People tap you on the shoulder as you know.

Yeah. And you're doing it on your own terms, which is amazing. Well, you know. Until like if I keep going eventually, they're going to hand me the cardboard box. Somebody, you know what I mean? At some point, so that's what happened to me. And I got married and NFL network hired me there in O3 and I remember going to the Hall

of Fame that year in August. The network didn't start till November. And the first thing we did was go to the Hall of Fame just to do some interviews and put them, you know, start our network with some interviews of the Hall of Famers. And people were coming up to me saying, you know, what is NFL network? Like what are you doing? Like why would you leave ESPN? Like what is happening? And I was also wondering the same thing at the same time. And then we came on the air in week 10 of the 2003 season. Yeah. Right in the middle of the season, we came on right in the middle,

November 4th, 2003. It's a lot awkward. And it was weird and wild. Like, I don't know why we didn't start with the season. I don't know why. I don't think we were ready yet. We went on the air and we're celebrating our 20th year. Year this fall.

This is your 20th combine that you've been right. 18th. We we we we. Brother trying to get the combine coverage off the ground, you know, we ran into on occasion a bill, Polian wall. He was, you know, running the competition committee. And they, you know, in this event, old school people were like, you're bringing a camera in here to do what? Like, and why? You know, like, why are, like, what, what, how is it? Why would anybody want to watch this? How is the Burtex jump televisable? You know what I mean? Like, what is going on? And so 2004, we didn't do it from the network side of things. NFL films produced and Bill Patrick and old sports center anchor. Mike Mayock who is working in NFL films at the time. Yeah.

They did the first combine in 2004 sitting on chairs like this on the field with a screen behind them. Yeah. Just talking about what they're seeing on the field. And then O5 we showed up on total access and did the show from there every night. And then around 2009 or so is when they put me in a booth and I start calling the action, like it's a golf tournament slash, you know, track meet. It's a weird event. It is not well-rounded at all.

But it is again, a time of renewal, like it's been two plus weeks since the Super Bowl, and I miss it. And every team is now on the clock. Yeah. And so many questions about, about, you know, you're one of them as well. Like what you're going to do is one of the many questions that people want to know the answer to now. Whereas Roger's going to go? What's going to happen with Lamar, what's going to happen with the Jets quarter back? What's going to happen in Fill in the blank any team everybody's making news now and the combine is an excuse to talk about it. Yeah Yeah, well, it's also everybody's coming here. So that's like you Have you ever gotten like inside information at the combine just talking to executives? Oh my god.

Are you serious? Okay. Here's the deal. The combine is the. It's a gossip. It's not. Oh my god. Gossip is not even the proper word for. I don't know.

Like just think of anybody out there listening watching. Yeah. Think of the, the loos loosest lipped friend of it. Okay. Put that person, you know, in, you know, a tank, get him drunk, get him totally drunk. All right. So they have lost all sense of any filter. Yeah. That's the combine. And that's what they do. I have heard so many rumors here in just 24 hours. And it's always like, so here's the deal. This is what I know. I swear I got it from somebody who's really very very very vlogged. It's like some assistant to the trainer of the agent, to the assistant of the assistant and just and you don't know what is wrong with your phone.

What is wrong with your phone? What is wrong with your phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, suddenly Rodgers is a minotaur, who's gonna maybe, you know, come back as another creature in play for the Jets. Like, I mean, so that's, yeah, oh God, it's just a non-stop rumor mill

in the chateaus of Cathies. And everybody is the cateaus of them all. And it's just like, it's a wild man. That has been wild. Being here not, participating, this is my first time ever here not running. It doesn't have a time I ever came here. I don't know why else.

What would you come back? And there's no reason, right? Yeah, that was one thing like everybody is here for one week and they all just want to hang out and have fun. Yes. On top of that, they're going to look at potential draft picks and prospects. But really, they're all doing this on the side. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and coaches love, you know, blowing off steam and soda general managers and sodas. It's been a long season. Far off as executives. It has been a long season season and it's been like two weeks since then. And plus, you know, if you make the playoffs or the Super Bowl,

you know, it's great to walk around and just, you know, say hi to your colleagues who did not make that Super Bowl. And it's, you know, it's, it's, it's a fun dynamic. It really is. And so you also get to see people kind of laid back Not in the middle of a season not getting ready for a season not getting ready for a draft It's a nice little downtime. So there is a sociable aspect to the combine as well for sure. Yeah So everybody knows you run the 40 how many I mean I'm not having time. Um, I

It started in 2005. Okay, and so It started in 2005. Five, okay. And so, just like anything as you're learning in this business of content creation, the best ideas come out of sheer boredom. Total sheer boredom. And so, the first combine we were at O5, we're done with a pre-tap interview that we're airing later

on that night for total access, that we're going to do live at eight o'clock at night. Good Lord, we're just sitting around. It's me and Terrell Davis sitting in the stands at the old RCA dome, just waiting on a break. Everyone's on a break dinner break. We're just, you know, I'm sitting there in my suit, he's sitting there in his suit, and he got nothing to say to each other

because we've been hanging out all day, and I hear the hum of the lights and the air conditioning. It's easily, it's like a white noise putting you to sleep. So I just turn, I don't know why this popped in my head, but I look down in the field, I see the 40-yard dash line, I say to Terrell Davis, hey, TD, how fast do you think I can run the 40? And he goes right now, I'm like right now, in my suit,

in my lace-up shoes. And he said, I swear to you, this is what he said. He just laughs. He goes, you can't. I'm not even an option. I'm like, what do you mean you can't? Like, I can't like physically go down and do it. Because if that's the case, you know, watch me go do it.

Like, that was my sense. And he goes, no, you just can't run to 40. I said, I'll just tell it. I said, fuck you. Watch me. So I go down on the field. Oh, I got in my suit. Yeah.

I remember the suit I was wearing and my lace up, Zenya crock shoes that I had bought just a special for the combine. And I went out and I ran it. And I had no idea that somebody was in the truck, hit record. Oh my God. And I had no idea somebody was shooting it.

Yeah, no, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, no idea. Just ran it. Just, no, you zero. Completely. No idea. Just ran it. Just so later on, organic 100% cursed out through all day. This ran the 40 out of sheer boredom. And then later on that night on total access, they surprised me at the end by showing it. Six, seven, seven, terrible. I don't. Yeah, that's slow. Brother, I talk for living, okay? You play, I talk, now you're talking, you're now in my field and it's disturbing. But I ran apropos of nothing.

And later on that night, they showed it. And then the next day, Ian Walks and Mike Honger and the Seahawks, and we're interviewing him. And the middle of the interview was, did I see you on TV this morning running? And I'm like, yeah. And of course, they showed it. He laughed. Joe Gibbs saw the same thing. He walks in. He starts telling a story about how he once pulled a guy out of the stands at a training camp, just to show like how tough it is to run. And he made him run. And you look like that guy and over and over and over again.

And we showed it, we showed it. Next year I show up at the combine, walk in the RCA dome, first person I see on the field is home-grant. And he says to me, are you running again this year? I'm like, what do you mean? I don't think so. And he looks at me, he goes, you gotta beat your time.

I swear to God, this is how this was born, Jason. He goes, you gotta beat your time. I swear to God, this is how this was born, Jason. He goes, you gotta beat your time. And I'm like, oh my God, my congruent is like challenging my competitive spirit. How do I not try to beat that? Yeah. And he just looks at me and he goes, just don't hurt yourself. I'm like, oh shit, he's right.

Yeah, so I ran it again and then I ran it again and then a year after year after year, and then I just thought to myself, you know, this thing is jump in the shark like here I'm running. And just as that happened, they came up with the, um, uh, advent of the cymo cam, like so overlaying one runner after the other. And so you would now overlay the real 40 yard dash runs of really fast people over me. Elite athletes and just watching them fly off the screen. I'm barely at the one yard line.

You know, it was like slapstick comedy, even worse than the other suit. The worst one was then they decided to overlay me against BJ Roger. Remember BJ Roger? Okay. I mean, I don't know if you ever were on the opposite side of a line skirmish. Like the two of you were probably, I'm who am I saying?

I don't know if we'd be all the same center. You know BJ Rajee, I'm sure you've bashed heads with this guy, right? Yep. So he was at the combine. He did not run very fast at the combine, but it was faster than me. And so watching this big dude run off the screen on me, and then somebody came with the idea of giving me a head start, and then watching BJ Rod run through me, was like pure slapstick

comedy. And, you know, I'm a former standup comedian in college. So I'm, I totally understand and relish the value of a joke. Okay, and I'm like, I know it doesn't look good for me. I get it, but that is fucking funny. And so like that was, so we would do it every year and then now we're doing it for charity. So.

And anytime anybody is willing to laugh at themselves, looks good on them. Yeah, you know what I mean? Right. I, I, I don't look, I mean, how do we not laugh at ourselves in this world, you know? It would be a miserable world if you could do that. Well, and I'm not surprised. I mean, I, I mean, somebody put the mummers costume on, you know, that was a great, I'm sure you've had plenty of that.

So any rate, it was about six, well, eight years ago, 2015, one of our great, while she's moved on to NFL Europe, I believe, now in UK. She was in a meeting and they came up with an idea, Sarah Swanson was her name, came up with an idea, she called me up, she goes, how would you like to run for charity? And I'm like, I'm sure, yeah, like, what do you got in mind? And she mentioned how there

are a handful of league charities, probably should choose one of them to help mix together and get the NFL involved, which is always important. And so the one that jumped out of me was St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, is 2015. We had three very small kids, and I just thought to myself, this is the worst call a parent can get. How do I, you know, like on behalf of the small children that I have for all the other kids, let me just have this stupid idea that was born out of boredom,

turn into something. Yeah. And we've just grown it and grown it and grown it. This is my very long-winded way of saying, I'm not running it at the combine anymore. That's the idea that I've now, because the combine, when the combine got canceled due to COVID in 2021, I didn't want the run to stop.

So I ran it at SoFi Stadium with a bunch of players from the NFL Legends community, and some kids from Play 60. So I love the idea that I think my run is the only idea, whatever you want to call it. I'll just screw it. Event. Yeah.

The only event that mixes the Legends community with kids. That's awesome. Like Play 60 NFL Legends. So I got, you know got Jerry Rice and Rod Woods and in Tarell Davis fittingly. And Chris Carter, a whole bunch of just to name a few showed up at SoFi and ran with some very good-hearted, deep-pocketed individuals who donated and we ran it. And it was just pretty cool. So the next year, last year, we did it the Rose Bowl. Okay, so the next year, last year we did it the Rose Bowl.

It's a, that was incredible. Yeah, Michigan guy, you know, I'm Michigan man and I covered the Rose Bowl and Bo's last game for my school newspaper. And here I am in the Rose Bowl with the St. Jude logo painted on the field. It was wild. That's unbelievable. And RG3 ran and Vic ran and fast and that got some more buzz going, which obviously

means more donations. So I think that's the way to do it. That's how you're doing it this year, yeah. Yeah, I think that's just the way I'm going to do it from now on because I can also make it bigger, hopefully make it. There's more money. Right. And I also have to run here.

And by running here, when I run here or when I ran here, it's the end of a day of a broadcast when I'm sitting on my ass, eating like garbage. I feel like my hip flexors, like atrophying, just, and I dreaded it. I would be doing this whole this whole pop, you know, this whole day. I'm up in the booth. You can ask me, or you had DJ on, I think earlier, yesterday, Daniel Jeremiah, like I'm up there, like stretching and commercial breaks and whatever. miserable. I'm like, oh, God, I have to run later today, you know, it's not the way you want to get up. No, no, no, asking for an entry day, and plus at some point, long story short, I, you

know, I'm 53. I don't know how long people want to watch me run anyway. It seems like people are still enjoying it. I will certainly love it every year. Thank you, brother. Have you ever thought about doing another event too? Folks, you know, I've said, why don't you, you know, lift weights or whatever, 25 bands. I don't know. That then it's just, it's done. And plus, you know, that's the logo of my show now the running man Yeah, it's the logo of my show Yeah, and so in the suit and tie and the funny thing is when they when they first Came up with the idea when my show was at the time was born by direct TV and you know

I own the show now. That's another long story But anyway direct TV was the one that birthed it. Yeah, and came up with the idea How about you know the logo is you and your suit running. I'm like, great. Then they created some like mad men looking silhouette with me running. And the problem with their initial version of it is it was so real that my left leg when I run does kick out like I have a terrible running style. And it looked terrible.

It looked terrible. I said, do me a favor. Can you make this a more athletic and I watched them? as kick out, like I have a terrible running style. And it looked terrible. It looked terrible. I say, do me a favor, can you make this a more athletic and I watch them, Jason, I watch them on a computer, take my leg and move it in, more underneath my body to make it look like a more athletic silhouette, like I'm like, okay, now we're good. Yeah.

I feel like the 40 is the event though that everybody watches the combat. Yes. Like all the other events are great. When you're in it, you care about all these drills and you do coaches. But as a viewer was the first time I ever saw the combine. Yeah. The 40 is what get you there.

Well, it's also the most relatable thing, Jason. I mean, like, you know, you know, when you're going through your drills here, that you're being put in positions that are unnatural to the game, but it's natural to see if your ankles flex, there's your hips flex, if you're going to bend, you know, that you're going to dip instead of bend, like that's what they're looking for when you're doing your drills. And for a fan, it's just like, well, I think there's a journal if it's an offensive one, but which I think it is where you're lying on your back to start the drill,

right? Get up and you have to shovel some of the sides. Exactly. Right. Like, if you're on your back facing on a Sunday, it's bad news. You're not getting up. We should not be in this position. Exactly. Like that's not what, you know, you want to see out of your offensive line, when it's prone on on his back. But for the drill, that is what they want to see, because they want they do want to see your app. They want to see how your hipstraw correct. Right. So fans might be a little bit thrown off by that. But running fast in a straight line, that you get. Yeah. You can get it. You can also just easily understand, oh, that person's fast. Yeah. That person is really fast. Yeah. Um, or in other cases, not. But so that's why many reasons why I think the 40 is the most

popular and and see who's fastest. And you can also do that metric like, okay, that guy is now the fourth fastest. Yeah. Oh, I remember that guy who was, um, faster or I don't remember that guy. And it just shows you that running fast doesn't mean you're going to be successful in the NFL. So that's a neat way to look at it. They're running on their second time. They're like, man, okay, this guy was close to that first guy the last time. Correct.

Let's see if you can break that guy this time. Right. And now with the simul cam feature that I was talking about before, like you're putting my homes over the fastest quarterback here, over Russell Wilson, over DAC. Yeah. And we can just compare you as fans love that. I know I do. I want to see. It was a game, Jayden, when they started doing that.

Did they put Travis over? Did we put Travis over you? I don't know. Like that's the sort of shit we do to brothers. Like we do, we kind of clown him. I was ran into that. We do that. Like, I know Travis had some,

I know he ran into his program. I'm not sure, I don't know if you ran it as count at the combat like that's the sort of stuff that will will do Yeah, yeah, so and I think people like that and also I love the fact That we get to flex that we've been we've been around and if on that works been around We've been around so and that's and also, you know, I want to show I we should show Jalen hurts at the Combine. Yeah. Right? That's what we should see. Now that he has become what he is becoming.

A super star, right? Like, this is where it started. Yeah. When he was here, like, and I said also to an in our meeting yesterday, like, we need to show on the screen, even though he did throw, but we need to have Brock Pertie standing in the background of last year's quarterback drills, where that kid at that combine, nobody's thinking what he could possibly do this year.

And I kind of dig that, those stories. Like, you know, I know again, you know, they didn't work out for your team, but we did have Skymore and, um, Pacheco at the combine last year. They both scored in the Super Bowl. Yeah. And I don't know how many times we're seeing rookies do that. He runs with a theory. Right. And he was, he ran four, three and changed here last year and fell all the way to the seventh round. So that's the sort of thing we're going to, when the run and backs run, like, hey, like pay attention because, you know, the kid who ran last year was chosen seventh round, he scored in the Super Bowl. The sky more the guy you were saw running the gauntlet and the wide receiver drills, he scored in the Super Bowl.

So you never know which one is going to come out, right? You know, and so we love that. I love that stuff. I love it. Do you have a favorite position group to watch? Or ones that like, because quarterbacks always the hardest to predict, right? Here's a deal with me with the combine. The way I view my role here is multiple fold, but I'm not here to tell you what you're seeing in a drill.

And I'm not here to tell you what's on the all 22. Like that's not my gig. My gig is to do two things. One, put everything in perspective with what team needs are. From what I do on my show every day, for three hours talking to people and talking and interviewing people

who are willing to come on my show. And I gather narratives. I gather what team fans or interest, what teams fans want or are demanding or are talking about and what the team needs are and free agencies right around the corner in the newly years beginning. Yeah, so I love talking about what's going on

in the football world completely and what these kids might fit in terms of a need. And also, it's just really, really dry watching some of this stuff. So I try to keep it entertaining. And I'm sorry if I'm saying the wrong words to. I try to, I want you watching. Yeah. I don't want you turning off. So it's got to be completely, I'll say, I want you watching. Yeah, I don't want you turning off.

So it's got to be completely, I'll say, douche free, you know, like it's got to be I love that. Completely. I don't know that I've ever used that phrase, but I'm stealing that. Take it. All right.

That's, you know, I know it's a, you know, it's not, it's a very coarse way of saying something, but it's true. Like I want you to have it on in the background or pay attention. I don't care, but I just, I don't want you turn it off. Like I can't listen to this guy in other seconds. I can't listen. I'm full of himself.

I can't, I can't, I mean, seriously, I, what do you think is the key to being douche-free? I don't know, I'm myself. Like authentic? I hope, hopefully don't know. I'm myself. Like authentic? I hope, hopefully. Like that. You've never come off. Well, that's the idea.

You've always been douche-free to me. Thank you, sir. I've never been more, um, taken it back and complimented at the same time. I've never, what an odd feeling is coursing through my veins right now. But that's, I don't, I don't know, man, I'm just myself and I try not to take myself too seriously as we've talked about. Yeah. And, but I, I do want your attention. You know, I do, you know, it does what I do for a living requires that you stay tuned. Yeah. And, you know, I, so I do three hours every day on my show.

I do four hours every Sunday morning on NFL game day morning Yeah, I'll be doing six hours tonight six hours tomorrow eight hours Saturday and eight hours Sunday And then the draft hits and it's like a telephone So I don't do anything that's a half an hour long like if I ever have an hour long show in my career I'll be like this is a walk in the park. How do I fit everything in? Yeah, pretty much like I'll be like, this is a walk in the park. How do I fit everything in? Yeah, pretty much. Like, I'll be wondering, like, I need more time, which is obviously what is great about a podcast,

like you can go as whatever you want. Yeah. So, I'm not going eight hours, three hours, two hours. No, but, but, so I have to have a certain style when I'm on these shows that will keep your interest and not turn you off. Like, I just don't want want that that's the worst thing. But I also don't want certainly when I'm doing my show every day in three hours.

I traffic in some, you know, sports talk radio and up against the debate shows on other networks. Sure. Like I don't want to, I'd love to be heard, you know, I don't want to be turned off and I like to be heard, but that's not my reason for doing what I do. Like it's not my reason for being like, I don't care if I'm, you know, I don't care if I'm right, I care if I'm wrong. Like that's a fact. You're not just going to say something just to get attention.

But I have to say this, I do love being right, though. I mean, it feels, oh, God is it good. That's when it's great to have a show with your name on it. When you're right, when you say something and you're right, it's great. I do love puffing my chest out, but that's kind of the philosophy that I have. I want to go back to this just for a second. I did not know this. You said you did stand up and come. Yes. What do you think that that has helped you stand up and come. Yes. What do you think that that has helped you? It measurably makes it. Oh God. Nothing's nothing's more difficult than walking into a room. Yeah. Have you ever tried it? I've never tried it. I've always thought that your brother is going to do Saturday night.

Yeah. Is very difficult. Now I know he's going to be reading off the cute cards and he's going to be rehearsing. You can be doing all that stuff. It's going to be as good of a setup as you can have. Yes. Support system there. It's just an SNL support system. It's gonna be as good of a setup as you can have. Support system there. It's just in SNL support system. It's first rate, yeah.

Pretty good. But still, it's live. It's live. Exactly, right. You got to perform, you got to one shot at it. And you can't break it. And the crowd's gonna let you know whether they think it's fun or not.

Yes, correct. And it's nerve-wracking. And you know, the own, and nothing compares to that. And I know that feeling when you walk into a room and you've got your set, you've got your material and you think it's gonna work, but the crowd's off or whatever.

And boy, when it bonds, it's so terrible. It's terrible. Terrible. So I always had in my back pocket, the big finish for me was, and I know I'm dating myself, Howard Cosell, the announcer again, this is late 80s. Howard Cosell is one of my idols growing up. I would read the letters in Penthouse magazine

in his voice. In his voice. Killed every time. When I say every time, never didn't kill. Never failed. Never didn't kill. And my parents came to see me one time. They're two, they're New York City public school educators who came out to Michigan.

I think they even drove Jesus. They drove and they saw and they were, and I did the act. I mean, introduced them in advance. Yeah. So people were seeing I was doing it in front of my parents and I got to a particularly in advance. So people were seeing, I was doing it in front of my parents and I got to a particularly awful line. I just said, do you get that, mom? Like the place just went flat

and I love nothing beats the feeling of getting that, you know, laughter and feedback to the point where I tell everybody whenever I'm on any show, and you're a crew here, like laugh, like I want to hear, like I'm expecting hearing that. And it's not their job to laugh at my shit, but I love it if they did, and I don't mind it. I don't mind it.

I love my Brandon's over here. He's trying not to make noise because of the show, but it's great. This is working. I like that. I like that. I like that when you're watching Game Day Morning and you hear the crew laughing and hoopman and hollering and whatever, that's energy.

I like that. That means if they're liking it in the room, that means you're liking it on your couch wherever you're watching it. So I'm kind of ingrained for that. A couple of years I did my show at the Super Bowl in front of a live audience. That was amazing. I loved it.

I warmed up the crowd. Like I hadn't done that in years. I love that. I love the feedback. And so it's made everything else I've ever done. Live TV, that much easier. The only thing that compared the one time that I've done my job as a broadcaster

that made me feel the similar like butterflies is one year I did Sports Center at the Angels Giants World Series. Okay. So I guess that's 2002, I guess. Okay. Because the last World Series I covered for ESPN. And so the reason why I bring it up is I'm at whatever it's called now. I don't know what but at the time Pack Bell, Paul ballpark, the home of the giants,

out there on the sports center set and left center field. Games over lasted really long. I don't forget who won over who lost. But all I know is that we're going live on sports center from there, 10 o'clock at night, 1 a.m. Eastern. Gonna do the highlight haven't seen it yet. And that happened all the time to me. But what got me the highlight?

The highlight. Brother, my first sports center that I did in my life, age 26, my first sports center was on a sweet 16 Saturday. At seven o'clock at night. I had 12 highlights. I saw one highlight before going on here. One, 11 of them were going to be coming during the show as games were ending.

Yeah, you're not coming out of the edit bay and everything. And you know, it's all written out for you in a shot sheet, not to get too deep into it, but you're not like just looking at it by that you have notes, you're given notes. But I just remember walking down from my first sports center of my life thinking, I have two choices. I can pee down my leg or I can just go ahead and just suck it up and do this thing. I've been built for this.

This is your moment. Go do it. Yeah. Talking to myself, so what I wound up doing was both, I pee down my leg. And I grabbed the breast ring at the same time. I might have been doing the sports center while urinating, it's possible. But that's a courageous, you're terrified.

But you go do it anyways, right? So I'm in Pat Bell ballpark and they get in my year right before we're going live. You're doing the highlight. If there's any mistakes, we've got a wait to do it live again at 2 a.m. Okay. And because they couldn't like just record it for whatever reason because they were coming out like the satellite link It was all live like they couldn't record anything

So just wanted to let me know because if you screwed it up any other time We could just minute days of commercial break you were on tape for the rest of the show I could just minute do as a commercial break you were on tape for the rest of the show I could just record it there. But for so the reason why it made me wild is the entire crew Would have to stay the whole crew like literally every human being on the set It's not just you wanted to go home like it was End of a long-ass night like and so Everybody was like on pins and needles wanting me to nail it. Yeah. And

I that really freaked me out. Like I'm like, okay, I'm going to like the whole crew is just like this asshole. You couldn't say, you know, the word, Percival, you know, like so I mean, it was nerve-wracking. That's the only time I felt like a stand-up type butterfly in my stomach. There is something about other people's lives being affected by mistakes or something like that, that resonates more with like personal Brian Kelly's or college football coach.

He moves me to center. Whenever I had a bad snap, I had never snapped a ball before. And he said, whenever I had a bad snap, all right, Kels, take a lap around the field. And that sucked, right? And what, running and everybody's laughing at me. What took it to the next level is I, Kels, you're obviously don't care if I make you run.

If you have another bad snap, the entire team is doing a lap around the field. I tell you, I was so terrified to have a bad snap, because I'm like, these guys are gonna fucking hate my guts. Yeah, I'm sorry, they're gonna hate my guts. Yeah, I'm sorry They're gonna hate my guts. It's the same thing. Oh, by the way am I not allowed to work on this show? I'm sorry, okay, you are allowed to do anything We're both gonna do anything. Okay, okay good enough

Um, so I don't play so you're freaking out. I imagine yeah, and I failed And you be entire team had to do a lap and it was man. It was a terrible feeling That's this so that is basically the entire crew would have had to take in the lap of standing and sitting around for another hour for me to try and get it right a second time. Oh man. Yeah.

But you nailed it. Oh yeah. I'm professional. So lead pipe wielding professional. When you do Jason, back to your, this just in Sorry Do you feel like you're like performing like yeah when you're on there you

Like absolutely unconsciously thinking about that when you're in the standup. I am not unconsciously thinking it I am at 1 million percent doing that. Yeah, yeah I'm always thinking about what would be good TV and what's not. If I push the pedal to the metal here in this block, I need to kind of pull back on the next one. And that's something Keith Ulerman taught me years ago. You know, he would, when I first started sports center walking around the hallways, he would cross past me and he'd go, nope, not yet.

Next day, just walking past him. Hey Keith. Not yet. Next day, just walk and pass them. Hey Keith, not yet. He keep walking. He saves us to me day after day after day. So I finally get up the car and say, okay Keith, I'm gonna, I'll bite. What do you mean not yet? And he says to me, you haven't come close

to being able to do the type of sports center you can do. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, everything's a joke for you, everything. He goes, so do yourself this favor. Do an entire show where you don't do a single joke. Build up to it. Don't do a joke in a highlight. Just do one highlight straight.

Then do an entire segment straight. Then do two segment straight. Build up to doing an entire show where you don't make any jokes. Then do that again, then do it for a week. Yeah. Then build it back up where you're throwing something in because if it's always a gag, always a joke, it doesn't resonate, it doesn't feel right, and then plus what happens when something serious happens.

Yeah. You can't be taken seriously. And I'm like, oh man, like I'm not even close, like boom, my head exploded. And I didn't know if I was capable of doing it, but that here this is great. The moment that it really hit me is I was for a year. Begging put me on the road.

I want to go on assignment. Begging. All I did was just sports center. Never out on the road, never got to be at an event. And I'm like, please put me out there. So they finally relented after about 13, 14 months of just pure sports centers. They sent me to cover a Celtics Seattle sup Sonics game in the old Boston Garden for NBA two night. Remember there was there's always a two in the for the two shows. Yeah, RPM two night and HL two night. This was for NBA two night. I would do the car

respondent covering Celtics Super Sonics because the Sonics were winning 60 games that year. They were awesome. So camp Gary Payton, all of them. Yeah. So, I went into their locker room after the game. They just mopped the floor with the Celtics and they came in like total pros, no gags, no nothing. It was like you could hear fucking pin drop. Like they had just gotten blown out. Yeah.

And I'm walking around the room and one after another, income's Gary Payton, income's dead left shrimp, income's George Carl. And they all like look at me, like staring a hole for me, and I thought to myself, oh no. Did I make fun of any of these guys on sports? And I started going in my head, like just like just like going back.

You two are going back. Nothing was there. Nothing. No, I couldn't call myself out like I called you out to start. So yeah, like I kept going to my head like, oh, no. And I then made a pact as I sat there and stood and cooked like I felt like I was, you know, a cooking in my own, you know, stew in that locker room.

I made a, I swore to myself that I would never say anything on the air that I would never say to somebody's face. Never again, ever again. Like if I'm having a take, if I'm having an opinion, if I'm, it's something I got on own. And I cannot make fun of somebody's just for the sake of making fun. That moment, like I will never forget that. It just lit a light bulb over my head, you know, at age 27. Being right there in front of the gas. I mean, how can I, yeah, in a locker room? Like how can I not, you know, what am I gonna just do

whatever I want to do and then stay away from the gas that I'm talking about? Right. Like that's another part of my upbringing in a way, you know. That's awesome, first of all. Thank you. Yeah, I think that's something that a lot of journalists don't do, and that's integrity to the fullest. You know what I mean? Like, I'm making a living talking about the sports played by these men and women.

How can I not, you know? Oh, right. That's what I felt. And it was, it was invaluable. That's good. These are all invaluable lessons for me. So you were begging to do events. Yeah, now you do every event pretty much right? I try. Yeah, like what what is your favorite event that Traffed draft. I gotta say it's my favorite to there's some about watching somebody's dream. Like be realized right? The combine's kind of like that too. It is. There's a lot of kids that, you know, Stacy Dales who's so great and she's gonna be on the field for us throughout the combine. She was saying some of the kids that she was interviewing

were getting like choked up that their dreams are just about to begin here at the combine. Yeah. I mean, that's their first, this is their first time doing. This is an NFL event. Correct. Beating coaches.

Correct. I'm actually, I'm getting goose bumps even just thinking about this, but I'm actually gonna be in the NFL. I remember being there. Yes, because about 96% or 95, I know that sounds really specific to show off, but I just saw the numbers. Like 95, 96% of the combined invites are drafted.

Yeah, it has to be. Like it's just like, was there in a different order here They're an alphabetical order here at some point. They will be in numerical order. Yes. Yeah in the NFL draft Yeah, this is your first taste of everything you've worked for everything you went to college through everything you've been through with your family Hell yeah, we're about to be in the biggest we're in the show now Vernon Davis was crying when he was here I remember when he jumped out of the gym in the old RCA don't decay Metcalf Yeah, we don't like to think about that too much and fill it out here. I'm sure I'm sure but DK Metcalf face timing his mom after he crushed it here

Yeah, because you know he had a neck injury and a lot of people thought he had shouldn't have left School when he did and he came here and he killed and he faced him with his mother and he's crying. I mean, that's what it's all about. And the draft is, I just love the draft. It is a marathon. It is the most mentally taxing thing I have to do because, you know, that clock keeps moving. You got to be ready. There's many different voices.

Trades can come up. And I hope the draft lives forever. Unfortunately, social media, Twitter, your phones are faster than the commissioner to the podium. Really? Yeah, so I'm off my phone. I'm the first night of the draft. I want to react.

You want to react to? Yeah, I got to react to. Yeah, I got to react to. Yes, because people think I know that like I'm tipping a pick. Like I know the pick because I could know the pick, by the way. Yes, because when a pick is made in the NFL draft, two phone calls are made. One to the next team on the clock to let them know they're on the clock and who's just been taken. It's tells they tell them yeah right yeah and so and then and then they call from the draft room when they get the call at the at the actual draft they then let the broadcasts

snow so the graphics can be set on so the pick picket's rock nose and the next team nose. And then of course the player knows. And of course there's somebody who might be in the room who knows. And invariably an agent finds out invariably. Twitter finds out. Yes. And Twitter, I think it kind of moved past the draft being the first to tell you, to Twitter was the first to tell you, I think that happened about five years ago.

It's that that line began to move about five years ago. So I don't want to be accused of, you know, acting. I want to reattentive. You want to be authentic, really? Yes, of course. Like that's what you want people to watch. Yeah. So and plus again, I don't give a shit about being right. I do care about being wrong. So I'm a I don't need to

I'm not doing the draft just so I could be boy, man. I told you. So this is not going to take that little linebacker. I told you. I knew because I know their needs and I know football. So look at me. Like that's not why I do the draft. I just love being in the mix of doing something live, not just because of stand up, because everything else that I do is either previewing it or reacting to it. So the fact that I get to do something as it happens and tell you about it and be sitting alongside you while you learn at the same time. I love that shit. I love it. And stuff moves. And I hope they continue to, I think they will,

you know, again, the draft could be done like a fantasy football draft in an hour if you just point and click. Instead, it's a show. It's a show. It's made to be a show. Yeah. Jason, it is a show. It is a show.

It is a total show. And people I think dig it, I think it is, again, old school to watch a draft. Because again, you could just be on your phone, go, oh, my team just chose this and make it read it out. It's the only way I've ever done it. But I've never looked on, I've always just watched it. Good.

I like that. Yeah, hopefully us, not ESPN. You watch, you watch NFL Network. I watch, not just stop. Whatever. No, just stop. Just. I watch, not just stop. Whatever. No, just stop. Just say the words I want to give. I click in NFL draft.

Yes, watch NFL. Thank you. Does that talk? How difficult was that? I'm a fragile man. I'm fragile man. By the way, it was great meeting your parents. Yeah, I really appreciate you doing that.

Dude, it was an unbelievable week for them, for our family, my mom. I mean, she just sent me a video yesterday, like recapping it. My dad, I mean, thanks for- Come on, it's, so I'm going about my business and, you know, putting together the guest list is something that's, it's difficult, you know, because you had to pick and choose and I'm lucky that I do get to sometimes pick and choose. Sometimes I do want somebody,

but the Tommy doesn't work or they're not coming. And this is not a shot at you. That's not another shot at you. But it is a process. And so I found out, Ed and Donna Kelsey are gonna be available. A bailable, yeah. And I'm like, really?

Okay, and I found out that your mom was sponsored. Yep. Okay. I think it was a pizza, was she was a pizza? Like, like, the code. There were a lot of things in your promo code. Yeah. That's what it's pizza. The promo code of Mama Kelsey.

Like, I'm like, wow, she's not got a promo code. Your mom's got a promo code, man. So, you know, and it was, it was just, I love, you know, meeting your folks, because I know, you know, what goes into being there, you know, and being there and being present and, you know, to have one kid in the NFL, not have two, and have two kids in the NFL, and, and you know I'm not just saying it just

because I'm on your podcast here. I mean you're going to the Hall of Fame so as your brother I can say these things you don't have to. But you're going to the Hall of Fame, you have two kids in the Hall of Fame in the home state of Ohio to be forever enshrined and then to play against each other in a Super Bowl, that is so cool. And I just wanted to see their dynamic. And just, I think your dad was kind of, like your mom was totally into it. Your dad, I think, was kind of like still

with his head on the swivel, like his head was seemingly swimming to me over, I couldn't compute it. So I just wanted to have the mom and just shit chat with them. I love meeting them. Which one do you like more? Look at you. Put me on the spot. I mean, how do I not say your mom? We all say mom. I mean, dad's, it's supposed to be mom, right? If you're dad, I think my dad would be mad if I didn't save mom.

Of course, my dad would have made he rest in peace. And this and other thing too, my dad, you know, when I first started on sports center, about two, three years in a card come, I think was tops, like, came around and made cards for sports center anchors. And like, sure, I'll do it. You know? And they made like a playing card for me. And so long story short, is they gave, they're out there. I just signed one yesterday walking into the combine. There's too many of them.

That's the point of the story. Is that, is that they made like thousands of them? I'm like, what am I going to do with this? So what I did is I gave it to my parents. I'm like, what am I going to do with this? So what I did is I gave it to my parents. I'm like, here, you got it. So my father would have these in reserve. There's again, many of them. And when people came to the house to like, you know, plumber or cable or whatever, and they would stroll past the family photos and they would recognize the sports center guy

or the NFL network guy and they'd say, oh, then they put two and two together, the eyes and family, and then me, they're like, is that your son? And if they talked well of me, they got a card. There you go. And so when these people, my dad would give out these cards, and so when my father would say, yeah,

so the sink wasn't working, but it's working now. You know, it's telling me what's going on there. I'm like, so did the plumber came? Yeah, I'm like, was he car worthy? Dad, and he's like, well, he didn't say anything, so I didn't give him a car. But if they said something, they already got a car. So I mean, I could not imagine the Super Bowl There we got a card. So, I mean, I could not imagine the Super Bowl being someone's card, you know what I mean? Like that, to me is what it's all about, man. You know?

Yeah, I was emotional all week a little bit. I tried to not think about it, you know, trying to focus on it. Yeah, of course. And after the game, seeing Travis, I wanted that emotional, a little bit pissed off. Of course. I get it. The moment I saw my mom, it's it.

Yeah, I mean, it's for them in knowing everything they sacrificed to give us the opportunity to play whenever sport we wanted. Any, like, all the equipment. And more than that at the time, my dad coached me in Lily Baseball. I mean, he was involved in everything I did. So was my mom. And for them to both, I don't know, be celebrated as I think representatives of like,

all the parents that do this for their kids. I mean, it was unbelievable. So that was when it really hit me. I was like, man, I'm just so proud and happy for them and The week that they just had there's great. Yeah, it was great and plus so you know, thank you for no come on man again to having them on just wanted to meet them and and and and I just knew there would be a time that I would Be with you meet you and see you and then I could say that literally every member of your family has been on my show Well, and you haven't like I don't think I don't think I don't think I'll be sorry.

That's not very much. And you don't strike me as an LA type person who says things and then you don't follow up on. No. Your word is your bond. Yes. You saying to me that you're coming on the Rich Eyes and Show that's going to happen. It is it is guaranteed as long as you'll have me.

Oh, God. If you will have me, I'll have you. Yeah, I would be more than happy to have that. You know, as evidenced by the number of times I've reached out. I'm picking it up. I'm picking it up with an empty hand. So, is there anything you wanna ask me?

I feel like I've been asking all the questions and you're the professional. You're the professional asker. Come on my show, that's when I'll be. Okay, that's, that's, that yeah but no other than that I mean you know I'm just thrilled to see you you guys this pod is taken off yeah clearly has and so it's great timing I mean right to the shoot bowl and you know it's it's it's it's been a lot of fun I don't know what how

where it's gonna go or anything like that but it's it's I don't know I love talking to people. I love learning. Well, obviously, in the two of you do, and the two of you together, it's fun. It's a good dynamic. It is a good dynamic. I mean, that's part of the reason

when the man in cast is so great, you're watching two brothers bust each other's stones, watching a game, and you guys as well, people like watching your dynamic together and being able to talk at the height of football relevancy too, it's pretty cool. It really is. What's your advice if somebody's going to go try and do stand up? Are you thinking about it?

Are you seriously thinking about it? I have always wanted to do it. I've always been terrified. Why? Because I've never done it. Ever. I've never even written down jokes. I don't write. I don't even know who her to process begins. I've watched. I've never done it. And I've never, I've never even written down jokes. I don't write.

I don't even know who her to process begins, watch, I've loved stand up. Tyra Levin, I mean, back to Comedy Central presents like the roasts of the best, or the roasts. Oh my gosh, I love it. Yeah. So I've always thought about what it would be like. Sure, so like.

Well, I can hook you up with whatever, who do you want to be like? No, I'm just talking about what is your advice? I wasn't that great at it. I mean, I did it. I did it. And is your advice? I was in that great ad. I mean, you did it. I did it. And you've been just having courage. I'm just having courage.

Just have courage. Don't tell me that. I don't have any courage. Yes, I doubt that. I doubt that. Just have the courage, you know, and right. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't know.

No, but now, now, but back in the day, I never really, I did write down like the set list I would have, you know, in my head, a gag, a joke, or a line. It would be all based on like, yeah, like my, I wrote, you know, I made fun of my college courses at the time. Like this is, I mean, you know, now obviously would be about fatherhood and it would be about other things about it. My own life, just make it about yourself and your observations and go for it. I would love to see that for sure. Well, yeah. We're not gonna record that first one.

Well, you should. You should, you should, and then, you know, maybe you crash Saturday night, you know? Crash it, take it over. Create your own moment. I will think that's good. Create your own moment. Well, you go viral.

I think that stuff's pretty scripted. Destiny is, yeah, that is. Now, I have been to a couple of SNLs and my advice to you there is sleep in Saturday morning, sleep in because it's going to be a late night. The after party is the greatest thing ever. Okay. And you're in it goes like you will see the sunrise Sunday. All right.

And it is going to be lit. You are going to have a blast. That is going to be something, man. This is great news. It is. What? Yeah. It is like a good advice.

All right. Big time like sleep in Saturday, hydrate all day, because you're going. Be prepared. You're going deep into the Sunday morning. One to be on your game during the show. Correct. But more importantly, after you're on be prepared. You're going deep into the Sunday morning. One to be on your game during the show. Correct. But more importantly, after you're on your game.

Yes, it's not one of those things, like just the adrenaline's over, you know, it's one in the morning and then that's when things begin. All right, well I'm gonna steal this advice and take it to Travis. Do it. Yeah, for sure. You gotta let him know.

I'm very happy for you and your bro. Matthew, do you have anything else for me? I feel like you don't want to quit me right now. I feel like you don't want to quit me right now. I feel like you don't want to quit me. Like, we can talk forever. I could talk to you forever. There was some, I'm not even making this up. Okay.

The moment we walk through each other in the hallway. Yes, sir. I have the elegance that would you walk. And I don't know if it's because of your, or your the aura about you. I have an aura. You're correct. Yes.

As you walk by, I was like, oh my gosh, I've never seen somebody walk by me with such feelings. I'm weird to get out of here. I was thinking this as I'm an elegant walker. I guess that what I am. I don't that's what I felt. This is is this new is nobody ever told me I walk elegantly. No, I don't run a 40 elegant. I don't. I know. This is. Is this new? Is nobody ever told me? Nobody's ever told me I walk elegantly. No, he's ever.

But don't run a 40 elegant, right? I don't. I know. But walking, it was. Look at me. It was very smooth. Look at us. Handshake.

It was. Like, man, that is elegant. Was I taller than you'd think? No. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Okay. I'll accept that. I'll accept that. Okay. All right. But at least I'm more elegant than you thought. Okay, I'll take it. I'll accept that. Okay, all right. But at least I'm more elegant than you thought. Okay, I'll take it. I mean, fantastic. It was one of the most elegant things I've ever seen.

Thank you, sir. Thank you. Anything else you want to unburden yourself on? I had to say that. I don't know why. I felt it in the moment. I just had to get up my chest. We're always gonna have this.

We're always gonna have this. How was going to Michigan? I loved it. Yeah. Oh yeah, Matt. Yeah. How come you didn't go to Ohio State? Wasn't offered.

I didn't get offered anywhere. They suck. They suck. They suck. Are you buck eyes? That's correct. Now you're talking my language. How many good?

Dude. I need to take a state of Ohio. Did you ever see, did you see last year, I do the jacket dinner at the Hall of Fame every year. So I hope one day, hope to, I know, I know you don't like that sort of stuff. But so I do that jacket dinner every year. And the last several years, I get heckled at the mic.

OH, I, oh, oh,H-I. Real original guys. Oh my God. Like, yeah, you can spell. I get it. You know, and I really don't have much of a leg to stand. I couldn't then much of a leg to stand on. Yeah. Because, you know, what's the words for it?

Ohio State had been kicking Michigan's ass up down the block. So you're looking forward? So last year was the first year I had done it off of Michigan wind in I think seven, eight years. And I came prepared. Now again, this is the whole standup, you know, live performing aspect for me. And I love it.

5,000 people in this arena. And I step up to the podium. You didn't see this at all? No. Okay, man. It went viral to the point where it became, because there was no news on August, whatever the hell it was.

It was an alert on the ESPN, my app. It alerted, you know, Rich Eisen, hey, you just did this. Oh, and oh God, I gave it to the Ohio State fans with both barrels. Great pleasure. Oh, it was amazing. It was great.

And it is some of my, like I try to put it on my Emmy reel. I try to actually put it on the reel. I put it into, you know, hopefully get nominated and win an Emmy award. I tried to actually put it on the reel, I put it into, hopefully get nominated and win an Emmy award. I tried to do it, and I found Network didn't broadcast, it was only broadcast locally, so it couldn't qualify. That's how good it was. It was truly some of, if I may say so, elegant work by May.

It was great, I loved it. And then, of course, the feedback I would receive from Ohio State Pans was just a one off, you know, we'll see in November. We'll see you next year. And we did it again. Yes. And then we did it again in the horseshoe. We did it again. And we put up another 40 burger on them again. So this is great. When I go back to Canton this year, in your great state of Ohio, I am going in chest first and I may need security. Okay.

Can I get you? I will for sure. And your brother can I get the Kelsey brothers to be financially road grade for me when I absolutely blow torch the place like a Quentin Tarantino movie. I'm going to go, it's going to be great. I don't know what I'm gonna say,

but all I know is it's gonna be on. I can't wait to watch. Good Lord. They didn't offer you? They didn't offer you? I didn't get offered anybody. I was a walk-on. So I walked on a Cincinnati.

I almost went, it was between Cincinnati and Ohio State, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati, I loved it when I went down to the school. I felt like I could get a scholarship. A house state was daunting. I mean, there's a lot of five-star recruits and things like that. So it says, like division one program,

I felt like I could get, so like Joe Borough, you went somewhere else and you succeeded. Yeah, just like what he had to do from a Ohio state. Well, yeah, I tried to recruit to a Borough at a Cincinnati. And did not work. He went to LSU and was the best decision I ever made.

Yeah, when he was in the transfer, like he was in the transfer portal. Yeah. And you called him on? I did text him. I didn't, I didn't, if somebody gave me his number. Yeah.

And they said, hey, you know, Newfickle was with him. I don't get to say he's got to recruit him. So, like, would you mind, like, I think this guy, this kid would be really good. Jason Sinati. And I shot him a text and it was right after our Super Bowl run. And he's like, man, you guys killed it this year. You had a great speech.

Loved it. And I was like, man, yeah, well, best of luck to you. I hope you keep Cincinnati in mind when you're trying to decide where to go. I didn't want to push him right. And, and, uh, he ends up going to LSU. Have a, uh, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, go into LSU have a yeah, I'm not seeing them. Like the cars. I have not seen them.

I mean, hey, great job. Not taking my sales pitch for Cincinnati. Yeah, we're kind of really well. Justin Jefferson being there and all, you know, in a work hard chasing all. Oh my god. But in it up in Cincinnati, you couldn't get away from that. All that matters.

The Queen City got him back. And how lucky. Yeah. Are they? I mean, unbelievable. That's funny. Yeah. So you knew already that that kid who was in the quarterback room and was leaving was that

good. Like you, you, you had heard about that. I didn't know, but that was the somebody told you like, Hey, this kid is really special. And I'm like, how special is it if you can transfer it? Exactly. Can you even start? Right. And, um, right.

Have you seen this a number? I mean, Joe, bro, Jalen hurts. Transverse Malabalam. I mean, I love his story. It's a lot of people. God, do I love the story of your quarterback? There are, God, I love him. First of all, I love whenever somebody has the perseverance to stick to it and then it achieves. Yeah.

But more so than that, and I've told this to Jaylin, he's done it in a way, he never gives credence to the doubters. He doesn't even acknowledge it. He's just, all right. And he goes out and he just proves everybody wrong. And yeah, he's tough. He's a great player. He played about the best Superboy.

I think I've ever seen a quarterback play, even as good as the other one played on the other side line of Patrick Mahomes. I mean, I took a shot. He doesn't shoot out for the agent. I have it right here. I took a shot of the scoreboard at the Superbowl. Yeah.

Hold on a minute, don't worry, this is good. Okay, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. I know I know I know I know I trust you with my life I will this is I took a shot of it because I couldn't believe what I'd seen right there So because he had such an incredible First half. I mean his first half was incredible. Here it is First quarterback in NFL history to rush for two touchdowns and throw another in a Super Bowl. And that was just in the first half.

Two minutes to go in the first half. And I tweeted that out, I'm like, so this is how Jalen Hertz is gonna respond to playing in a Super Bowl. Yeah, got it. Yeah, never was a con. This is the first time, well, how's he gonna do? What's gonna be rattled?

Is he gonna, well, how's he gonna do in the, in the spotlight, and you set a record before halftime? Yeah, it's gonna be rattled. Is he gonna do it? How's he gonna do in the spotlight? And you set a record before halftime. Yeah. He's a gamer, man. I just, I love the fact that he didn't transfer, stuck around, and then did get in against Georgia in the same freaking building in the SEC championship and beat him, beat him. And then went to Oklahoma throwing and everybody and the criticism was right.

You see, you're seeing him get better in a move. And then goes to Oklahoma and makes the Heisman podium losing to borrow. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. And then get strafted in Philly and everyone's like, why?

Yeah. We did a Carson at the time. No, I know. I know a lot of questions, but I understand like why some people would say why, but I mean, he wasn't booed like McNabb was born into Philadelphia because he wasn't Ricky Williams. Yeah. You know, I was blown away when that was going on, you know, at the time. I was on a sports center when that happened, but long story short, love hurts, love his

story, love everything about him. I've met him once, he's been on the show many times. So, and I love him telling his story. We had him on before the draft when he was drafted. And he called in and I'm like, who are you, what's a team you're gonna get? What Daniela hurts? He's like, his answer is they're gonna get a dog.

And you're gonna get a guy who's gonna lead and I thought to myself, I'm not kidding, I thought to myself, what team's he gonna lead? You know, like he's not a first-rounder, he's not like, what team's he gonna lead? And I'm like, what a dumbass thought in retrospect. I mean, talk about leading could, Lord, by example, by word, by manner, by game. I know I'm preaching the choir, but I know.

Yeah, but I mean, you're right. And it's, it's, he's been that way since day one. He's gotten better and he's in as you play more and have success, you get more. Right. Credence from your peers, right? You, you're given that leadership role a lot more than having to earn it. Yeah. But he's earned it every step of the way and how he handled what he was drafted into with how he handled new coaches coming in. Yeah. And you know, he just does everything.

Yeah, I don't want to. You know, he just does everything the right way. He does. He says everything the right way. He cares himself the right way. He's got the says everything the right way. He carries himself the right way. He's got the perfect blend that I think leaders need to have where they're confident. They believe in their teammates. They're outwardly humble, but in their head, they're the most vicious person on the

field. And what a company. What a great company. What a great company. What a great company. What a great company hard to find that all in one person. That makes a difference in gem and the great ones. Unicorn. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. I don't know where to go. Yeah. Don't make it end. I'll tell this story. OK. And then I think it's a good button. OK.

If you don't mind me, button. Please. That's what I do. I'm a professional button upper in many ways. I button stuff up for a living. I will handle this. Thank you. So I'm a big game show nut too. Oh my God. Okay. Huge game show nut. What's your favorite one? Price is right. I did stuff. It's the best. It's the best. It is the best. So then you'll love this story. Then okay, in particular, I'm a die harder price is right. Years ago, the NFL network reached out. Sage CBS is promoting the fact that they have the Super Bowl.

Like, what are you talking about? What is the Super Bowl needs promoting? It was weird. But they're like, they want you and another guy, the network turned out to be Eric Davis, who was working in NFL network at the time. Want you guys to go and give away a showcase on the prices, right?

To help promote the NFL. Okay. And so I said, jump out. No, hold on. Okay. I said, I will do it under one condition, you know, make him think like, you know, I need to, I need to have demands, man. Yeah. I said, for me to do it, I need to say the words brand new car. Got okay. Showcase is gotta include a car. Okay. So I say the words brand. And the only way to say this brand new car. Brand new car.

Exactly. Hey, you don't like it. It's got, if I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna go full-bore. Yeah. I only know one speed. Yeah. So I did that incredible. This car was, oh, I don't remember.

I don't give a shit. Yeah. They didn't win it. Yeah. So they overbid. It was terrible. So and and and and and my guide for my show TJ Jefferson went on the prices, right? Okay. And and his his episode aired while we were on the Rich Eyes and Show and prior to that, my my my guy Chris Brockman, who does the show with me says when he comes on we got to stop the show and like we're on the radio like what are we going to do? And this is again another you know philosophy that I've learned through the years is you

know a good idea shouldn't be just discarded because you don't agree with it. Okay. So I'm like he's like we got it we't agree with it. Okay. So I'm like, he's like, we gotta do it. Like when he's on, we gotta stop what we're talking about and talk about his show. And I'm like, but we can't show it, it's radio. He was right. We stopped, I got out of my host chair

and I went right behind Chris, so I could see it on the TV. And I did the play by play of him playing the game Master Key. He didn't take the middle key, he blew it, Matt.'s a very rare. It's a rare price in game anyway, but I've told you my my price is right, you know, experience here. And I think I've proven my worth in loving this program more than anything else. So my wife and I are big dog rescue people. She got invited to a dog rescue fundraiser one year and the guy who was being honored was Bob Barker. Love it.

Now, this is... I can't. That's not even saying properly, right? Fair enough. I mean, so he's an icon in many different ways, many different ways, especially one, you know, somebody who just shows up all gray hair out of the blue one day, that was wild. But anyway, so he, he was the honoree that night, and I went up to him. It was probably like the mid-Auts, I was on NFL Network for a few years, and I'll go always go up to people who I love their

work, or I appreciate their work, as long as they're not eating or peeing, I will, I will disturb them. Okay, okay, and just tell them to their face, I appreciate you. Thank you. So I did that to Bob, but I mean, I just lost it. I just said to him, like, and plus I'll also roll the dice. Maybe they know me. Maybe they don't. If they don't, you know, I'm not heartbroken.

But if they know, then obviously it's easier to make the entree. Yeah. I go up to him. He has no idea who I am. And I just say to him, look, I'm the host of NFL network on a show called NFL Total Access. And I speak to players all the time from all walks. I've speak to players and football players and coaches and general managers and from all walks of life, hall of famous and rookies. I speak to them from all different places in America.

And I think to myself whenever I I interview these people I think of you in the way you bring people into You know contestants row it doesn't matter who they're from it doesn't matter their race color or creed you welcome them all Yeah, and I see how you do it and I I try to do that every day So thank you. He pauses and he looks at me. He goes, so, you wanna hug it out? Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! And I say, as a matter of fact, yes! I do. And I hugged him. I embraced him. I might have lingered.

Yeah. I don't care. It doesn't matter. So, that's my way of buttoning up. Yeah. Do you want care. It doesn't matter. So that's my way of buttoning up. Yeah. Do you want to hug it out? Let's hug it out. We're hugging.

Oh, for those listening. We're hugging. That's elegant. You're almost as elegant of a hugger as you are a walker shirt. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

I appreciate that. I can't tell you what to honor. This is good. I've been a blast. So how do we arrange this? Like, do we exchange numbers? And then I, yeah, you want to honor. This is good. This has been a blast. So how do we arrange this? Like do we exchange numbers? And then I, yeah, you wanna do it right now? I mean, we don't, we don't have to,

like literally right now, but we can exchange numbers so I can reach out to you personally and say, I'd like you on. Hey remember? And then you're like, new phone, who is? Yeah. So what are you talking about? Sorry. Oh man, I don't know what this number is. Yeah. That's what he's talking about. Sorry.

No, I don't know what this number is. So we can do that. And I'm not saying that you have to do it the first time I ask. You know, like I understand you got stuff going on. You know, I mean, at this point, I will follow you into the gates of hell. I'm pretty sure I'm so fantastic. All right, very good. We'll do that.

Thanks for having me on, brother. Thank you, Riches. You guys have been such an honor. And right back at you. All for having me on, brother. Thank you, Riches. You guys. He's been such an honor and, uh, right back at you. Alrighty. See you soon. Welcome to the New Heights Post interview interview. Brought to you by Accelerator Active Energy Drink. What did you see in that conversation about Rich Eisen?

You know, Rich Eisen is who we thought he was. Rich Eisen is who we thought he was. I've been watching him my whole life. It's fucking bullshit. ESPN, Sports Center, walks in here all elegant, like he's not a professional. He's the head of the NFL network. Rich Eisen is who we thought he was. That's what I took the damn interview.

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Be ready to go. You can find Accelerator at Target, Albertson, Safeway, Quick Trip, and Hivey. Alrighty. Well, that was the Rich Eisen energy. What'd you think? I love that dude man. Yeah he's the best.

He is just the absolute best and he definitely took it over. It was his show. He had no trade. Yeah, me and Trance the entire time. It was so elegant. From the moment he walked through the door, I was like, who is this presence that is coming at me right now? And he did not disappoint.

What was your favorite part? I would say, honestly, it was probably him saying that a SNL was a flex. I thought that was cool. It was obviously why I wasn't there. But I'm pissed that I missed the opportunity to have Rich come on my show because I've been on his show so many times man And I'll go on his show anytime he asked me to because I absolutely love love chopping it up with him like you guys did but um What was really cool was him talk about the the 40 at the combine and how much money they've raised and I just you know the fact that the He does it for charity year in, year out. And really, the time started to get better, but I don't know if it's going to get better.

Right now, shout out to Rich. May I prove me wrong, Rich? He did talk about how Jason, you have to start doing stand-up now, which is, which is kind of pretty spot on to what you like, because we watched watched stand up all the time growing up. Definitely in college. I feel like there was a Comedy Central did a Friday night stand up like just run of like stand up all night. Yeah, we love the Comedy Central presents all that stuff and we would we would always sit it. Yeah, I think you know, the interview was awesome. It was great to hear all the combine stuff the history behind it the 40. I think the thing that really was new to me, one of the newest things that I heard throughout the whole thing was that rich started as a standup comedian that Michigan and I think I've always been interested in trying it. Maybe that'll be one of our get out the house segments to share me and you. Let's dive in it. Let's do it.

Open Mike. Let's dive in baby. See how we do. No more than 10 minutes though. No more than 10 minutes. I want to I want to turn to a jackass on stage. I just want to be funny. It's fair enough. And I don't know how I'm going to react to people not laughing at my jokes. So I'm going to keep it right there. 10 minutes. And let's have some fun with it. I'm down. Let's see what we can see we can come up with.

I'd love going out to LA and going to the comedy store and the laugh factory, all the fun stand up spots out there where you literally see anybody walk through the door. Now you actually know stand up comedians. So I don't want you having 100% asking them right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm getting Bobby Lee to write my jokes. I mean, all right. Deal. I don't know your Bobby Lee. I just saw Bobby Lee out there, Randy killed it.

I think he's one of my favorites too, mad TV, man. Dude. Classics. Joe Burl. You had admitted that he tried to recruit Joe Burl to the University of Cincinnati. I did. Cincinnati reached out to me.

They said, hey, there's this kid of how a state is transferring. Oh, I guess I already just told the story. So I don't need to read tell the story. Yeah. But yeah, no, that's a, that's a real story. They reached out to me, tried to get me to recruit them. Best decision, Joe ever made with LSU and, uh, what a man. That's a, what a man national champion. Jimmy Jeff. But he couldn't escape the 513. He could not escape Cincinnati, baby. They came with Colin. Shout out to Joey B for being on a high off stud. Yeah, no, that was a fun ass interview.

Obviously, we got all the love in the world for Rich. And we've had a lot of love for him over the years, man. And more power to him moving on. Yep. Glad we were finally able to get you on the show, Rich and be obviously, I did a call in last week, but I cannot wait to make an appearance on the Rich Eyes and Show as you alluded to multiple times in our interview. So thanks for that and yeah I think that wraps it up. That's it. Another episode of New Heights is in the book. Thank you so much to Rich Eyes and for coming on the pod and sitting

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And until the next time. Peace! You know, they're gonna find out first hand how good these producers are at that live show. Bye!