New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Hopkins Debut, Hail Mary Chaos and Niecy Nash-Betts on Acting with Travis | Ep 107

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

92%ers, we are back with another episode of New Heights! In this episode, we are joined by an incredible guest Emmy Winner and Travis’ Grotesquerie Costar, Niecy Nash-Betts! Before we get to Niecy, Jason shares some behind-the-scenes stories from the third “Philly Special Christmas” album, we have an update on the ‘Heights Hotline’, and we have details on a very special field goal kick that will be happening on College GameDayWe also get into everything else from Week 8 in the NFL including the Chiefs staying undefeated in Las Vegas, how DeAndre Hopkins is fitting in on the roster, the Eagles blowout in Cincinnati, some Hail Mary chaos, and much more. Finally, we sit down for an incredible conversation with Niecy Nash-Betts. Niecy shares what it was really like with Travis on the set of Grotesquerie, how starting in comedy almost limited her career, what she thought of seeing Travis play football, and how she originated the BBL on Reno 911. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting http://wondery.com/NewHeightsOffer now....Follow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowSupport the Show:  TIMBERLAND x VANS: Send us videos of you kicking in your Tims before Jason makes his College GameDay debut. And please visit https://soles4souls.org/ to donate alongside our friends at Timberland x Vans. META: Go from fan to MVP and step into the shoes of your favorite players with NFL PRO ERA on Meta Quest. Shop now at http://meta.com/QuestAMEX: Experience the powerful backing of American Express. For terms and to learn more, visit https://americanexpress.com/withamex.COCA-COLA: Tackle game day with the irresistible taste of Coke Zero Sugar. Is it the Best Coke Ever? Try and decide. To learn more, visit http://coca-cola.com/us/en/offerings/fan-work.ALLSTATE: Checking first is smart. So, Visit http://Allstate.com first for a quote that could save you hundreds.  Savings vary. Terms apply. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company & affiliates. Northbrook, IL.SEAT GEEK: Use code KELCE2024 for 15% off your SeatGeek order. https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/KELCE2024. $25 max discountSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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men swigging beer in hostelries. Which always ends badly. To find out the full story, follow British Scandal wherever you listen to podcasts or listen early and ad free on Wondry Plus on Apple Podcasts or the Wondry app. We all came to see Travis. Let me tell you something. He was just trying to act like he was so professional as a football player. I'm so focused.

Then he came out there with that stupid mustache. He was trying to act like. He came out there with that stupid mustache. All right now. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, a Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and presented by Timberland and Vans. How about it? I love some buttons, baby. Gotta love the checkerboard Vans too.

We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Cincinnati Bearcats alums and And we're officially in quotes. This is not me saying this. Sexiest podcast host alive, according to People magazine, the readers poll. So, yeah, we had a whole bunch of people vote on who the sexiest podcasters were. And these other guys are, yes, Jason Kelsey wins it for everyone.

As always, everybody tuning in, subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights show that is with 1S. Jason, tell the people what we got coming up. Oh yeah. No surprise here, everyone. We got a great episode lined up for you guys. Woohoo baby. Starting with the big road wins for the Chiefs and Eagles. Washington Hail Mary, the National tight ends day, bull crap, and all the rest of the biggest storylines from week eight. How about it, man?

And I'm also fired up about our guest for this week's show. That's right. She's an incredible Emmy award winning actress and Travis's co-star in grotesquerie. Yeah, the one and only Nisi Nash. Nisi Nash Betts. How about it, man? She's, she's the absolute best to do it. I promise you. She's, she's so fun to work with. And I can't wait to have her on the show and show you guys the fun dynamic that she has with everybody around her,

man. It's so much fun. That's right. Cannot help but smile when you're talking to Nisi. But first, as always. As always. We're gonna start with a little bit of that new news. New news coming in hot. New news is brought to you by MetaQuest. Expand your world with MetaQuest. Philly special Christmas album pre-order available November 1st.

That's right, starting at 9 a.m. Eastern on November 1st, you can officially pre-order the third installment of the Philly Special Christmas album at phillyspecialchristmas.com. How about it, man? Jason, you guys have been doing this for the past three years and- We have. Who you're getting on these albums keep going up and up and it just gets so much cooler to see you have your musical career take off like this.

Yeah, my musical career. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Those the all the all the heights music classes and all the heights. They paid off. Yeah, it all paid off, baby. You're not playing the sax, man. You're using that you're just using that voice. Oh, yeah that raspy East Side of Cleveland voice You got we've got a preview of Lane Johnson's rendition of Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer. Oh nice Let's see what my dog lanes hit know This is gold. This thing's nice. Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer. Dude, that is so fucking good.

Shout out to Lane. Lane is a... he's got a sneaky voice, man. Now, Lane's... I've known for a long time, even when we started doing this three years ago, Lane. He can hold a tune, man. Very sneaky, like country, kind of southern, like in another lifetime, Lane could have been a country music artist. I can see it. No question about it.

He's got that voice, that iconic draw. Yeah, he's got that country star aura to him too. Yeah, he fits in with the vibe. Well everybody in the comments were appreciating Jason's, fuck yeah, at the end. Jason, you haven't seen this yet? No. And we didn't get a chance to talk about this on the show yet. Jason, you got to work with Stevie Nicks.

Yeah, baby. Jason, what can you tell the 92 percenters about this? Stevie Nicks, the legendary Stevie Nicks, came on and did a duet with me. Nice. Which in itself, like pretty crazy to actually be on a track with Stevie Nicks. I mean, absolutely unreal. Probably the most legendary female singer, especially of her generation, and maybe, I mean, I don't know, man.

It's just like such a unique voice, such a unique artist that was good for so long. The fact that I'm singing with her, this legend is pretty unreal. And isn't she just the best in person too? One of the nicest people I've ever talked to. She blows you away, man. Like she was absolutely beautiful personality. She, you she loves people, she loves music, she loves the art of making music. Brought a breath of fresh air into the recording studio. We're able to actually get in the studio at the same time, which is really hard.

A lot of times we're adding a lot of the big time artists that are actually doing this for a living. A lot of times they come on, but we have to like kind of, you know, they can't come into the studio because they're busy doing their own thing, right? Yeah. This was really cool. We were able to get Stevie in studio, actually sing together, which like,

I'll be able to cherish that memory for the rest of my lifetime. Oh, that's so cool, man. Hell yeah. Yeah, it was just really, really cool. We got Stevie, Boys Toand is on the track. Yeah. Travis and I sing on.

Now that you want to talk about like full circle. That is exactly who like when I think of Christmas music from like my childhood, like obviously you got the legendary songs from like before we were even born, but like growing up like Oh yeah, you already know. But the songs that were created as like we were growing up I mean boys demand had so many bangers and they're they like when I hear their voice it kind of like reminds me or puts me in that Christmas mood and to be on the same

Same song as them is it's fucking insane Yeah, when they when we first started doing that song, I actually didn't know if it was gonna work It's just like an R&B song and when I think of Christmas music, I do not think of R&B. What? No, I don't. I think of Frank Sinatra. I think of pop music. You got your Mariah Carey or Justin Timberlake. And this is before Boys to Bend. This is just when Zack wrote the song. Zack Miller writes the song. And I'm already like, I don't know, this doesn't

feel right. And the more you listen to it, you're just like, oh my gosh. Actually, Zach killed this. R&B is perfect. And I think we all really were hoping that maybe there's a chance in hell that Boys Demand would want to come and collaborate on this with us. And sure enough, they hopped on to Christmas time at Cleveland Heights, which is even more special. They have a song tributing our hometown and in some ways a representation for everybody who's longing for home around the holidays

was pretty special. It was awesome, man. I can't wait to play that thing while we're in the Christmas spirit and snow's falling and there's presents under the tree, baby. How about that? Well, there's great news for all United Tubercenters. We're debuting the Heights Hotline

on our Wondery Plus exclusive episode, dropping this Thursday, October 31st. That's right, the interns have been through all of your voicemails and you guys did not disappoint. We're going to listen to a few of our favorites on the Wondery exclusive, so make sure you tune in. We told you guys the topic disappoint. We're going to listen to a few of our favorites on the Wondery exclusive. So make sure you tune in. We told you guys the topic this week was relationships, but

it seems like some of you didn't get the assignment. Let's take a look at this clip. What's up, guys? What's up? I'm Kurt from Ken City. I don't know about relationships. Okay. I do know is how about them cheese?

Yeah, Kurt. All right. about relationships. Okay, I do know is about them. Kurt, how about those cheese, baby? Not much we can do with that. But love the fandom. Kurt. Yeah, once again, the hotline number the heights hotline number is 9293997262. If you want to get access to all our bonus content, make sure you sign up on the wonder plus app today, Wednesday, October 30th is the last day you can redeem the offer for three months free of Wondery Plus. Visit Wondery.com slash New Heights offer to redeem. And that does it for new news brought to you by MediQuest.

Expand your world. How about that? I love expanding my world. Fan mentions of the week. Let's move on to some fan mentions, baby. On last week's episode, Jason accepted Pat McAfee's and Van's challenge to kick a field goal in his Tim's, in his buttocks, baby.

Yo. For a great cause. And now our good friend, Eagles kicker, Jake Elliott, is also getting involved. Why don't we check out this clip? Huh. All right, Jason. He heard what you said about kickers. I'd like to politely disagree. I'd be glad if he called you out last week,

challenged you to kick in your Timbs. This week I'm gonna kick in some vans, a superior kicking shoe. Superior kicking shoe. He's got the vans on. All right, let's see it, let's see it. Something tells me it's going right down the, oh yeah. I mean, a nice slight draw. Just how you cook it up. Very pretty. Yeah.

He must've done that before. He just did a nice, easy 35 yard field goal. Jason, you just got to hit it right on the nose, man. Just got to hit it right there on the button. I'm going to have to tow it. You can't go do a soccer style kick with Tim's on. You're not going to get the proper ankle flexion, the boots. So I'm going to have to go Lou Groza. I'm going to have to tow it. You can't go do a soccer style kick with Tim's on You're not gonna get the proper ankle flexion the boots. So I'm gonna have to go Lou Groza. I'm gonna have to tow it Yeah, so I have a towed typically you go one two three steps back two to the side This one you're just going three back three back and I'm just going man. I'm not gonna lie the toe

There's a lot of room for air on the toe. It's the this thing goes straight is minimal. Let's see this trick kick though. Trick kick? What's a trick kick? Oh, what? Now he's just showing off. Now he's just showing off. That's crazy. How the, who is this guy, a fucking sorcerer?

This guy a Jedi? How the fuck did he do that with his feet? It's pretty impressive. That is very impressive. Not only did he do it in vans, like he didn't he do that with his feet? It's pretty impressive. That is very good advance Like he didn't even do it in his regular cleats. Yeah, which fans are I mean, like he said premium kicking shoe 92 percenters and Pat McAvee and Jake Elliott. We have a big announcement. I'm officially going to Happy Valley. That's right Penn State To try and kick I've never PA. To try and kick, I've never been.

I've never been to Penn State. Oh yeah, you're gonna love it. Happy Valley. That's your kind of place. I've gone fly fishing in the area, but never been to state college. So. It's your kind of college, you'd like that place.

I'm kind of excited about this for multiple reasons. I am a little bit concerned. I don't know if you guys saw this this week. Somebody tore their ACL warming up. Did you see this? Yeah, that wasn't a good one. This is one of those don't drink if you guys saw this this week. Somebody tore their ACL warming up Yeah, that wasn't that wasn't a good that wasn't a good one. This is this is one of those don't drink and drive kids Oh my gosh, what are we doing? What are we doing? I mean dude when you don't have cleats on this is why we doing this is why I'm going straight on

I'm not giving a plant leg is why I'm going straight on. I'm not giving a plant leg, I'm just going straight through. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Dude, there's no way you make this straight on. I can't do it. I mean, the Timbs is a big, it's a factor that is going to cause me a lot of issues. If you don't have to get like the flexion of the ankle,

I don't think you have to go straight on. You can just go sideways. I think the only chance I'm making it in Timbs is going straight on. I don't think I can do the soccer style. I think you go more sideways. Maybe I'll take the Timbs off and go barefoot and see if I can't get a soccer style. You're going to break your fucking toe. I'm going to break my toe? You think I got weak toes? I do think you have weak toes. Well, they are pretty, they're wore down. You wore steel toed cleats. That did work.

All righty. Well, if you too would like to take on this challenge of potentially kicking a field goal in turbulent boots, please send us your videos of you kicking in Timbs. We would love to see them. Show Jason how it's done. Dude, I know so many people that have actually messed up their legs kicking Pat talked about it last week after he got done He's playing soccer towards hip flexor Connor Baldwin one time he punted a ball after practice. He's neat. I don't think his knee was ever the same

Yeah, you don't want to get the hyperextension you want to make sure all those muscles are firing So one doesn't over I mean, I this is all I know nothing about this This is all the what my theories are, but goddamn. I think it sounds like it makes sense. Yeah, just don't take it lightly. Don't go too hard. So best of luck to everybody. Hopefully you stay nice and healthy

and we can have some awesome videos of you attempting to kick in Tim's. We'd love to see that. Tag us on social at New Heights Show with 1S with your kicks and Tim's would love to see that. Tag us on social at New Heights show with 1S with your kicks and Tim's. That's right. Shout out again to our friends at Timberland and Vans.

You're obviously huge fans of some butters. Appreciate them supporting this kick and Hurricane Relief Fund souls for souls. Let's keep this thing moving. Let's move on to some football. That's right. Both topics to wrap up week eight in the NFL. Both topics is brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express, starting with the Chiefs.

Chiefs 27, Raiders 20. Chiefs are now 7-0 for the first time since the 2013 season. Andy Reid is tied for the winningest coach in Allegiant Stadium. Chiefs undefeated in Las Vegas. Oh, shit. Coaches. Oh, he's tied for the winningest coach in Alleg Legion Stadium, chiefs undefeated in Las Vegas. Oh shit, coaches. Oh, he's tied for the winningest coach in the Legion Stadium. Nice. You guys had a new player in the building. DeHop.

Yep, DeAndre Hopkins. We just got another one, man. Has joined the squad. Yes, sir. One of the many receivers who have been shopped close to this trade deadline for teams hoping to be playoff contenders. How was it? Man, it's awesome, man. Having D-hop in the building, have another vet, a guy that's,

he's such a, I call him swag champs. When you get a vet that into the building and he just, he juices everybody's confidence up. He juices everybody, like the aura and the fun that you have in the building and just going to work. He's just another guy that you can always rely on to show up and put in the work, but enjoy what he's doing and try and have some fun with it, man. He's been awesome stepping up and stepping into the building. Yeah. Two days to get Thursday and Friday during practice to get timing with Pat and in the offense and kind of get into the routine, everything with Coach Reed's way of doing things. And man, he's just professional professional just a professional guy he came in asking

questions trying to get caught up as fast as possible and sure enough we get him in the building and and I think the first third down we had we went right to him baby yeah right to him and he's he's right on time man. Let's try out the shiny new weapon we got here yeah last Wednesday for those of you that aren't privy to how this happened. Hopkins was traded to the Chiefs from the Titans for a fifth round pick that could become a fourth round pick. But for all intents and purposes seems pretty cheap for a guy like DeAndre Hopkins. Is there anything else that DeAndre Hopkins needs to be ready for being a member of the Kansas City Chiefs?

Or Chiefs Kingdom? I think he's such a professional, man. He knows how to win football games. He knows how to be accountable. You don't need to tell that guy much. He gets it. He gets it. He's only made us better already. I promise you as he gets more incorporated into the offense and gets more in tune with Pat and how Pat likes to do things and how he likes to do things for Pat, I think all of that will just make him a very vital part of this

offense. It's fun to have him in the building, man. It is, man. Like I said, he's a swag champ, just the coolest guy you know, and he definitely juices up the room, man, juices up the huddle. Well, we have some postgame comments on Hopkins from some of your teammates. Pashma Holmes said, as I looked back at the tablet, that's for those of you that don't know, there's an iPad on the side of the game so you can kind of see what's happening. As I looked back at the tablet, that's for those of you that don't know, there's an iPad on the side of the game so you can kind of see what's happening. As I look back at the tablet, there's a couple of times where in man to man coverage, he was just really working and winning, Mahomes said of Hopkins. Even the touchdown to Travis, if you look back on his side, he's open too for a touchdown.

I know the type of player he is. So Pat, obviously, big fan of De DeAndre DeHop. Coach Reed was also quoted saying he wanted to be in there more, which is positive. He finished with two receptions for 29 yards on three targets. I understand he'll get more chances in the next game. Without a doubt, without a doubt. And obviously we'll have more, more plays in the base game plan that we put in on Wednesdays. We didn't get him in the building until Thursday. So late edition for the week. It's hard to kind of just, you know, a bunch of plays at.

Yeah, but exactly. And yeah, you could rewatching that game and he was out there breaking guys off. It's just fun. Like I said, to have a have them in the building. Yeah, he's one. Yeah, 100%. There's there's no drop off with him at all. Well, speaking of throwing a bunch of things at you big yet. He had a big day. That's right. He led all receivers this past Sunday, finishing with him at all. Well, speaking of throwing a bunch of things at you, Big Yeti had a big day.

That's right. He led all receivers this past Sunday, finishing with 10 receptions for 90 yards and got his first study of the season. How about that? About that time. Big Yeti back in the end zone. How's it feel? It felt good to be in the end zone, man. I hadn't felt that end zone in a long time. It was kind of like, oh, shit, what do I do now? You know, is one of those things. I haven't been in a while. You went was kind of like, oh shit, what do I do now? You know, is one of those things. I haven't been in a while. You went with the natural spike, natural spike.

It's like when you go back home, you're just like, well, now what do I do? Do I go see this person first or that person first? Do I go to the high school? Do I go to my favorite restaurant? You know what I mean? You're just kind of sitting there like, what should I do? What should I do? So many things. I'm lucky my guy, D-Hob, came up and saved me because I was just kind of sitting there not doing a goddamn thing. But it was electric to get in the end zone and anytime we get in the end zone right now,

you got to take that momentum and run with it, baby. That was our focus coming into this game was not settling for field goals. We did on a few drives and hurt ourselves on a few others backed up. But it's a mentality right now that we're just going to make sure that we give our defense touchdowns. Got to have them. Yeah. When you give Chris Jones and that front and Spags, the ability to blitz on third downs and really bring the pressure and put teams in passing situations, I mean, that is a tough, tough defense, man. And we love them for it, man. And I think giving them points early is

only going to make everybody's job a whole lot easier, man. We also got another big yeti lateral towards the end of the first half, which my man P. Ron was not as, I guess he was ready for it. You guys definitely knew you were doing this one. This one felt more planned out. Yeah, that's why I got to just calm down. I got a little excited. I fucking before he was like able to like get ready for the lateral.

I felt like guys were closing on me and I could pitch it to him. He could get out of bounds It was it was way too. It was it was too much. It was chaos and I I told him afterwards like my bad dog I won't put you in a situation like that again And he told me he was like, don't worry man. I'll be ready for it But it's still you know when the ball's on the ground, when you do something like that, all I can like hear and see is just Coach Reed, just come here. Don't ever fucking do that ever again with my jersey on your back. Don't you ever fucking do that with me.

So time out. This one wasn't designed, because this one did look designed. Most of the time when you do it, you're doing it out of nowhere on your own. No, if it was designed, he would have I think he would have been more ready for it. I kind of just fucking threw it on him. Fair enough. I'm not going to lie. The ball hitting the ground kind of helped. It did. Ironically, it did help a little bit.

It threw the safety off or the corner, the corner. Yeah. Well, I guess that is the safety he was playing. He was playing that. Two-invert or whatever it is. Yeah, so if you're gonna do dumb shit, don't do real dumb shit. It's golden rule that I grew up with. If you're gonna be stupid, don't be real stupid.

So, there we go. Just gotta contain the stupidity and just be great. That's Travis Kelsey-ism. Just be great, get the ball, get it North. Fortunate that we got in the field goal range there and I didn't cough the ball up to the Raiders man. Maybe the play of the game. The Chiefs are up 17 13 in the third Raiders have the ball

on the three yard line and we're denied. That's right. Big time goal line stand. The Raiders went for it on fourth down. Tershawn Warden, Sachs Gardner, M Mentshu for a turnover on downs. Yeah, was the goal I said play the game that was a point 100% I got me fired. It got me fired up, man. I was out there screaming and hollering and you can hear how many chiefs fans were in the

Legion Stadium to man that place absolutely erupted when they got the fourth down stand because we had just had a big turnover and backed up turnovers typically end in points. And when you can steal the ball back with a team trying to go for it on fourth down, man, it's just electric. You get so much momentum. And I'm pretty sure after that, we drove the ball all the way down and found a way to at least get some points.

Yeah. A 19 play field goal drive. Oh wow. That's a long drive for just a field goal. Oh yeah. But 10 minutes o'clock, you guys freaking really got after it. Yeah, I don't know if there's anything more electric

than a goal on stand. It is just like pure adrenaline when that fourth down doesn't work out. Oh yeah. We also got a great post from Drew Tranquil after the game. Tranquil? Yeah, he wasn't having any of this nonsense. Drew Tranquil said, Kermit and the boys vibing out in Arrowhead West.

There we go. So, Allegiant Stadium is now Arrowhead West, according to Drew Tranquil. Love that. Was the Chiefs defense more fired up than usual to play the Raiders with all of the chatter that was going on in the offseason and leading up to the season? I don't think it really takes chatter for everybody to get fired up for division rivalry. I think everybody knows what's at stake and everybody wants to rise to the occasion and really make their statement. All the Kermit stuff that happened between the Raiders and them saying that they had the formula to stop at my homes, I think that was just icing on the cake of motivation

to really go out there and show them that they didn't have that formula. And we gotta go out there and prove it again. We gotta prove it again when we play them down the road here after Thanksgiving. And I know they'll be ready because we were out there, we were in a bar fight for four quarters there. We were fortunate enough to get that goal line stand,

milk a lot of the clock, put some more points up on the board, get a two score lead. But that team fights, man. Like I said, Coach Pierce, he's got those guys flying around playing tough football, man. And Max Crosby is a fucking dog, man. Yes, he is. Yeah, I can't get my fucking hands on him. I got to be better in the run game against him. It's difficult. It's difficult.

Yeah. And he does a great job of just being wrecking havoc, man. Yeah. And he's one of those guys where you talk shit like you hate him during the game and then afterwards it's nothing but love, man. I got so much respect for him and how he carries himself and how he stands on being the face of that franchise and doesn't shy away from, shy away from shy away from anything. You know, he loves he loves the Raiders organization.

You can see that. And he just wants to win there. She's defense also just added a new weapon. Patriots former linebacker Josh Uchi. Yes, sir. Had eleven and a half sacks in twenty twenty two. He's an athlete, man. Sure. He's like typical, like Patriots backer that can kind of do a little bit of everything. So those are always good pieces, especially-

Athletic as hell, man. I mean, Spags, he likes pieces like that. Guys that you can do all sorts of fun stuff with. That's always fun. Trav, you caught up with the Raiders' Ricky Titan and Brock Bowers after the game. Yeah. Do you typically ask for jerseys or were you just getting into the national tight end day season? You know, I always try and you know, reach out to the rookies or at least the young guys getting into the league. I think Brock is obviously

is leading all tight ends and in I think receptions and catch and receiving yards. I'm not sure about recipients. I know he definitely has the yards right now and 500 plus yards through what is it seven eight games for him as a rookie? I mean, that's fucking that's damn good right there So he's got a lot of promise to be you know a staple at the tight end position for a long long time It being his rookie year and he came into the league so young only playing three years at Georgia And watching him play man. He's he's got some he man, he's got a smooth game. He's out there running similar routes to what I was kind of running earlier on in my career. And I just always want to make sure I look out for the young tight ends in the league and let them know they got my support, man.

Absolutely. Well, we got some LeBron stats. Travis now has the second longest active streak of games with at least one reception at 165 games behind only D-Hop. His new teammate DeAndre Hopkins. That's right. With 169. We have talked about this. You guys are both aware that you're... We both know that we were drafted the same year. Obviously he was drafted to Houston. I was the third rounder to Kansas City. It's just been cool to see how accountable he's been everywhere, every organization, every offense he's been in.

He's been the focal point. I just can't wait to see how his role in this offense keeps progressing. But now we haven't talked about this and I'm pretty sure, I mean, I don't give a damn about it. Yeah. I don't think either one of us are thinking about the streaks. We just go out there and we just ball. Yeah, I mean, I think that you just kind of go out there

and play right now. Mahomes became the fastest quarterback to 30,000 career passing yards and through his 52nd regular season touchdown to none other than Travis Kelsey. That's right, moving the quarterback tight end duo into third place in NFL history in that category. That's right. Moving the quarterback tight end duo into third place in NFL history in that category.

That's pretty freaking cool. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Rivers and Gates have like a hundred and like 19 or something like that. You're never catching them? Fuck, are you kidding me? They played like 15, 16 years together. And Gronk and Brady, they played 13 years together and had, I think, 100 as

well with him going down to Tampa and having a bunch of tutties there outside of the unbelievable career they had in New England. So yeah, that's, that's probably not going to get touched. So I'll, I'll take bronze medal in that. I'll take a bronze medal in that. It's fun. Next week, the Chiefs are at home versus the Bucs on Monday Night Football. Jason, you're in KC again, dog. Can't wait. You are tailgating with the people. You were one with the people, the Chiefs Kingdom, as well as the Saints fan base. True, true, true. Do you have any fun stuff you're getting into yet? Or do you not know yet? I don't really

know yet. I think't really know yet. I think we'll find out. I mean, we haven't talked about it too much as a Monday Night Football team. I'm going to go out and yeah, we'll see what we get into. I think there's, I said I love going to KC, love getting to watch Trab play. So not only do I get to work the first half, but I'll be able to hang out and see a bunch of friends and family and familiar faces in the second half and catch up with you after the game. So it's always fun when I get to come to Kansas City and watch Trapp play. Hey, yo.

Well, the Bucs are putting up points on offense. So they need a big week in terms of prep this week so we can get on the same page and make sure that we put up some teddies for our defense, man. But that's enough about the Chiefs. Let's get to the rest of the biggest stories coming out of week eight in the NFL as we start with the Eagles Hey Eagles 37 Bengals 17. Yeah that damn they put up 37 on the Bengals Yeah, buddy fly Eagles fly go birds, baby. Jason didn't initial thoughts on the game. I thought this is the best game that he was a played Collectively in a long time. I mean, they were good on both sides of the ball. The defense played well.

Offense, probably the most complete game they played, you know, this season, I'd say. Yeah. And the Bengals, I know that their record indicates that they're not very good. They've been in every single game. Like these guys have been, you know, very close in all of them. So to be able to come out on top like this against a team that has played pretty much everybody tight in Cincinnati, thought it was a very impressive game. And I think in particular, Jalen Hurts played his ass off,

man. He was on point. He was dialed in. He was making smart decisions. The offense was in rhythm. And that's the big thing. Ever since AJ went down before Tampa, it's felt like the offense has been a little bit like not disconnected, but, you know, just very spotty. And it hasn't really been able to find that cohesiveness, that timing. And they had it this past week against the Bengals. So it was fun to watch. Well, despite not scoring in the first quarter yet again. They still put up 37 points. It's close It was close. They got a field goal like right after the first quarter ended. I believe but that's still though, man That's fucking that's insane that you don't score for a quarter and you still put up 37 points

The Eagles do remain the NFL. I believe right now. I mean, that's a good turn it on baby They they remain the only NFL team scoreless in the first quarter, partly due to a Bengals 10 minute opening drive, which is also, that's pretty impressive. Starting ice cold, just waiting for the ball to get back in your hands or get the ball for the first time. Jalen finished with 236 yards with one touchdown, three rushing TDs. That's right. That'sush pushes in there, baby. No interceptions, which is always a big thing.

Turnovers will kill ya. One of the most electric plays of the game came towards the end of the third quarter though. Jalen connected with Davante Smith. Yeah, buddy. That's right, Skinny Batman for a 45-yard TD. And you just gotta love it when Skinny Batman comes down with the play,

because he's just one of the best teammates you could man. You could tell the guy just does it right man You added something to the swear jar at the end of this play. Yeah, buddy Yes, you do oh yeah fucking do yeah, oh yeah You do fucking do that. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You do fucking do this, man. Yeah! He lost his chain. Looks like it. He still doesn't give a fuck.

It's the least of his worries. You know why he doesn't give a fuck? Because he fucking does this. Yeah. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain.

He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a fucking chain. He's got a his chain. He still doesn't give a fuck. You know why he doesn't give a fuck? Because he fucking does this. Yeah.

Just call it, baby. I'm getting fired up just watching it. Just fired me up right there. Hey. Die, God. He ain't lying. He does it. He does it very well, too.

Glad to see him back in the end zone yet again. Saquon finished with 108 yards himself, topped 100 scrimmage yards for this sixth time in seven games with the Eagles. The guys having a fucking unbelievable season, man. If I got any notes for the Eagles, I'd say get Saquon the ball. Keep giving him the ball? Not bad. The Eagles also scored on five of their second half possessions. Like you said, they're one of the best teams in the NFL in the second half. That is always a good time to turn it on. Jason, what do you think has caused this offense to suddenly start, you know, having mesh, having that

click, having that, you know, rhythm and, and finding finding points? You know, I don't know. I mean, they've had a lot of like, obviously there've been injuries. AJ and Smitty were out at a certain point. And then I think it just felt like it took a little bit to get that rhythm back. It felt like they got to a little bit more play action this week. And I just felt like, you know, they were on it. Everybody was on it this week and the timing was there. The cohesiveness was there.

It felt like the plan all went together. It just felt in every phase from the players to the coaches, everybody was really on one this game. One of the reasons it's so hard in football is it only takes a little bit to be off, even when you got the players that the Eagles have, even when you got the guy like Jalen Hurts back there. Yeah. So hopefully this is something that they can build on. They can build on this confidence, this cohesion, and keep it moving forward because it's fun

to watch, man. When the Eagles are on, when A.J. Brown is on, it is a fun offense to watch for dang sure. Damn straight. Well, let's talk a little Eagles defense because holding that high powered Bengals offense to watch for dang sure. Damn straight. Well let's talk a little Eagles defense because holding that high powered bangles offense to only 17 points, I mean that's damn good. So maybe the biggest upgrade since September

has been the play of the Eagles secondary. He is her. Burrow was one for two for 13 yards targeting rookie DB Quinian Mitchell. It's pretty good. Cooper Dijon has allowed five receptions on eight targets for just 25 yards. Since becoming the starting slot cornerback,

also known as the nickel, in Philadelphia in week six. Both of these rookies have been playing lights out. Quinian Mitchell has been up to the task against everybody this year. It's really been impressive to watch his ascent as a young player. And then Coop started getting the start a couple weeks ago, as you just said, in week six, the defense just playing more aggressive and it's a lot of fun to watch

right now. They've really had two subpar games when you think about it against the Saints in Tampa Bay and Atlanta in Tampa Bay. Sorry, they played light side against the Saints. Atlanta, for two different reasons. I mean, Atlanta, they just could not stop that outside zone runs to the weak side. And they finally have got that figured out. And then in Tampa, it just felt like everything was so off and like, you know, very passive in terms of what they were giving underneath. Now, Tepebe has some great players. I mean, Mike, you want to give those guys some cushion,

so I get it, but they have answered the bell by being much more aggressive. In particular, there was a great play by Cooper Dejean on a fourth down where Chase was going in motion. And he even said like the moment he kind of saw Chase go in motion he had an idea that they were gonna try and get him the ball on something quick and Sure enough, they try to throw it out To chase in the flat like right now. Yeah, I mean those motions where you go back and forth I mean, that's what you yeah That's what you do on those kind of motions is you try and get the ball quick to him Yeah, it's a play by the rookie and sorry for saying your last name Dijon instead of Dijon. I

Don't yeah, I think that's it Let me make sense. That's how it's built Jason. You got any final thoughts on the game is it are the Eagles? I think they're a new team because they're continuing to get better Nice continuing to evolve as the season is going. We've known this. We've known that the Eagles have great players. Have they been the best team every single week? No, because this is a process of getting better each and every week. The defense has shown that. They're being more aggressive in the secondary. The defensive line has really stepped up on offense. Jalen Hurts played his best game of the year in part because all the weapons are there. The offensive line has really stepped up on offense. Jalen Hurts played his best game of the year,

in part because all the weapons are there. The offensive line made him feel really comfortable. Him and the coaches continue to get on the same page, especially with new play caller, Kellen Moore, and he just felt comfortable back there. You could tell. Yeah. You know, as long as that continues to trend in that way,

you're gonna see a great team from Philadelphia because they have the talent. They have great coaches and great scheming. Like, this're going to see a great team from Philadelphia because they have the talent. They have great coaches and great scheming. Like this is awesome to see. This is what I think everybody expected to see out of Philadelphia going into the season. Yeah, this is the standard. This is the standard. You know, they got a big game this next week in Jacksonville. Well, Doug P. Ooh, Doug P. That's right. The Jags are better than their two and six record. We all know that Doug P can scheme some stuff up pretty damn good, but they also have four of those six losses by less than one score.

They're another team that's been close in most of these games. Their record could very easily be different. So yeah, it's a big game this week. Well, we got a few LeBron stats of the game. Jalen Hurts is the first quarterback in NFL history to have three or more games with three plus rushing touchdowns. Yay There we go identical twins chase and Sydney Brown faced off for the first time in the NFL and also made history as the first Canadian identical twins to go head-to- the NFL. Nice. Nice. Nice. Edible, eh? Here we go. Here we go, eh?

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I think everybody was talking about on Twitter the George Pickens catch or not catch dude Insane. Yeah, I think everybody's been very quick to point out. He needs both feet down not just two feet and He's been very quick to point out he needs both feet down, not just two feet. And I got to admit, I didn't know what the ruling was. Like he clearly got two steps down. Yeah. Right? Here it is for everybody that didn't see it. Gets pushed and then somehow the left never touches.

Yeah. So the right foot hits twice, the left one because he got hit the way he did never catches the ground, which I'm not gonna lie. I mean, hell of a fucking play. And that's why you finish the play. Even if the guys got it in his hands. That's why you finish the play like that, man. I said this last night.

This is a great point. Go ahead. Every, every once in a while, there's a catch made that makes everybody reevaluate what a catch is. Like there's a Des Bryant one that happened in the playoff game. Oh, there's so many. Where it just like, I think to everybody watching, this so much obviously should have been a catch.

He catches it midway in the end zone and they rule him out of bounds. And I get it, by rule, it does say both feet. You need the right and the left. I understand that that is the rule. I just think that there's, see, I go back and forth on this though too, like by this rule, somebody could catch the ball

in the middle of the field and hop on one leg till they get out of bounds and he's out of bounds. Like, no, I mean, come on. That's not a catch. Yeah. But we've seen how much changing we, every time they add an addendum to any of these rules, every time they add like this little like, Oh, it's then this, or then this,

it feels like it becomes harder in some ways to gauge what a catch is. So maybe we shouldn't change it. We just know that, like that, that everyone knows that's a catch, just not by the NFL rules. Yeah. I think that was a catch. Like, L.A. played by George Pickens. Yeah. And I feel like there's, in some ways, I feel like they should add an addendum and say like, hey, if you hop twice on the same leg, like clearly two separate steps, that should be in bounds.

But at the same time- There should be a good judgment clause. And there should be somebody in New York saying yes. That was, I override that. That was a touchdown. I know the rules might not say it, but we just don't have enough leeway to like create rules for every single like situation. It's just like, or maybe they change, maybe they change this and they put it in there. Like if you, if you, if you hop twice and have a football player have the

possession and the accounts is two feet, like one foot and an elbow, one foot and a knee, you know, the all these other but I guess two feet of the same foot is not a catch. I mean, the problem is if they change it, it just leads to like more discrepancy. Like there's going to be one where like a guy is gonna like step and then toe drag the same foot. And then people are going to be like, that's two feet. And it's like, dude, this was like two very distinct steps.

He caught it five yards in bounds when he first like got it on his hands. So that's the problem with changing. It's tough. It's tough to me. I mean, I don't know how you can be out of bounds the way. It was a mind blowing play. I remember seeing it just. When they first said like, I've never seen anything like that.

I was like, what? How is that possible? It's where he thought it at. And then it's like, okay. But I guess the easy way to say it is like, hey, you know, drag your foot. I don't know. Yeah, straighten that left foot out. Don't even put it in the ref's hands.

Yeah. Either way, hell of a play by George Pickens. And a hell of a play by the DB. Yeah, that's right. That's right. National tight end day or as I like to call it, Sunday. Travis, tight ends across the league celebrated Travis's favorite holiday by setting all sorts of records.

That's right. There were 16 total touchdowns, the most tight end touchdowns ever on National Tight Ends Day. This is why it was National Tight Ends Day. I mean, that's a brilliant idea by tight ends. Hey, let's create a national tight end so all our coaches scheme up touchdown plays for the tight ends. Charge of George. Brilliant. George Kittle thing right there.

He came up with that one. Charge of George. Brilliant. Brilliant. George Kittle thing right there. He came up with that one. It was brilliant. There was also 177 total catches on national tight end day. The most ever on national tight end day. Some highlights. I think everybody saw 49ers. George Kittle had a huge touchdown play.

George Rollin had a big. Yeah, he had a nice day. Six gets it for 128. Kyle Shanahan was another Teddy man. Kyle Shanahan was definitely celebrating national tight end day bucks tight end Kate Otten. That's right with a with their receivers sneaky solid year this year, man. That's right. Yeah, he's becoming the old reliable with no gloves, baby. Two Tuddy's, dude, I hate

I do. I don't know why I don't like when guys don't wear gloves. It's just- Not like I have, like listen, to each their own, but it's just like why would you put yourself at a disadvantage? I don't understand, like it's so much better wearing gloves, so why do you not wear gloves?

Like what are you proving? Whatever floats your boat finds the loft remote baby. Is it just to be like I'm tough? Like there's no way you're better at catching without gloves. I don't think Cade's trying to prove something like he's tough. I think he just, I just think he doesn't like gloves. I think it's too sticky.

That makes no sense to me. Maybe it's too sticky. It is like so much easier to catch in gloves. Maybe it's not for him. There's no chance. I'm not buying it. Like when I see D-Tac, like Vita Vea would never wear gloves. I'm like, do you just love fucking your fingers up?

Just put some gloves on, man. You're gonna be, it's gonna feel way better. What's fucking his fingers up? Have you ever not worn a glove and tried to block? My right hand, I couldn't wear a glove on because I needed to snap the ball, right? And I could not snap with a glove on. I hate, I wanted so bad to put a glove on this hand

because it would always get cut up. It would always get bloodied. It would get bruised. And I just couldn't grab as good like the materials on hand that they say you could. You couldn't grab as good with the glove on. But K. Dotton, no, I can't.

No, that's what I mean. I can grab as good with the glove. But because I wasn't allowed to wear it, I didn't get that mechanical advantage. Wait, why weren't you allowed to wear it? Well, I was allowed to, but I couldn't snap the ball with it. It's like stuck to the ball too much. So it is too sticky in times. Yeah, it's great for catching, not for throwing sometimes.

Yes, absolutely. Well, I mean, quarterbacks use it all the time. Peyton Manning was an all-of-fame quarterback. Yeah, they use it, yeah. Well, I couldn't do it with the snapping, but this has nothing to do. There is absolutely nobody who cannot catch a ball better with those rubber basically stick them gloves on. Like I don't believe that.

I just got good sticky hands, man. You don't see Kate out here dropping the ball. Guy had, hey, guy had nine catches. I don't want to make this about Kate. I just think it's dumb when people don't take advantage of all of the modern day advantages to be better. What are you gonna call out Dallas Clark for the legendary career he had? Dallas Clark was a phenomenal receiver and he would have been 10 times better if he could catch, well tight end, whatever,

I was saying, sorry. He would have been 10 times better if he could have had gloves on. 10 times better? Yeah, he would have been catching it like. 10 times better? He would have been like on Dale Beckham. If he's catching the ball like that with no gloves,

he would have been like. You're crazy. He would have been out there plucking apples. You're crazy, dude. Dude, I'm not buying this. It is stupid not to wear gloves. It's not. Do tight ends just spend all week begging OCs for touches?

No, I haven't talked to my offensive coordinator about touches just for this national tight end day. You should just find like a different holiday or birthday. Every single day. Tom, you know it's a tight end, national tight end day. You should just find like a different holiday or birthday or anything. Tom, you know it's my birthday. You know it's national 87 day? Yeah. Just everything.

Did you know it's national I shaved my mustache day? Did you know it's national hairy chest day? Just keep coming up with them every single week. Just keep coming up with them. Washington week. Washington Hail Mary. Let's get into a few other games, man. Maybe the play of the year so far. The commanders went down 15 to 12. Two seconds left on the clock. Jaden Daniels scrambles around for a little bit and then just absolutely heaves a 66 yard pass. And when I say he threw that thing from about the 35 yard line, he threw it from about his own 35 yard line.

It was absolutely electric. It counted as a 52 yard Hail Mary, but let's see this pass to Noah Brown. Yep. Create, create. Let everybody get down there. Let everybody get down there. Nice. Move around.

O-line's doing a great job. Shout out to Nikki Ali Grady, Andrew Wiley and then the the heave the heave. You got to have a tip. You got to have the tip and then the guy in the brown and the guy in the back is perfectly executed by the by the gang over there. Kingsbury does a great job of making sure his guys know what to do in a situation like that. And you got great players making making big time plays towards the end.

I mean, the Bears thought they had that thing finished. Yeah, they they went up 15, 15, 12 with with a few seconds left. And somehow they got into range to throw a fucking Hail Mary man. Somehow. Well, I mean, the first play, the first play. That's what I'm saying. They know somehow about it. They're playing 50 yards off, playing Hail Mary on the play before. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, that's that's tough. We got like, you got to know, bro, when they're on the 30 yard line, they're not throwing

a Hail Mary. If they're going to do anything, they're going to run like a gadget play to try and like, it's either sideline or you're running like the the last play that you have, which is like a bunch of laterals, right? Like nobody's throwing the Hail Mary from the 30. Maybe you can, but don Don't usually happen, right? So it was surprising. I mean, they they basically gave them 15 free yards

to where now they are in the territory. That's tough. They got guys talking trash. I felt I mean, Stevenson owned it, but yeah, this one sucks, man. You got fans pointing at the at the play telling them that there's a play going on while he's he's taunting them It got snapped. This is tough, man. This is tough You uh, you don't really want to be doing that before the game's over with let alone while there well There could be a play being ran, but obviously it's it's magnified because he's the one that tipped the ball

Fuck not only did he tip it but and trap I'll ask you this because Obviously it's magnified because he's the one that tipped the ball. Fuck! Not only did he tip it, but, and Trav, I'll ask you this because you are the jumper on the Chiefs defensive helmet. Not all the time, but yeah, there is a situation where I've gone back there. Yeah, for sure. Not only was he celebrating, which I mean, that alone, I feel like, and he's already announced that he that he fucked up. He knows he fucked up. Yeah. But then he also, when he jumped,

he like swats up at the ball. I'm like, you're not supposed to do that either. Like everybody knows, like, do not hit that ball up. You kind of want to stay behind. I know it's harder. We're acting like it's easier said than this is. You're trying to high point it. You're trying to get it deflected. So it's not just like a straight catch. But you really want to spike that thing down. You want a volleyball hit that down to hands spiked down is like the big because you get more surface area on the hand to hit it. Get more control of it.

And I like to stay behind the ball and come at it. So you see how he's coming down the line of scrimmage. He was coming sideways because he was kind of late to it. He wasn't even supposed's coming down the line of scrimmage? Or down the goal line? He was coming sideways because he was kind of late to it. He wasn't even supposed to be the jumper. He was supposed to be the guy in the back. I mean, everybody's got to try and make a play on the ball if they can. For sure.

Yeah, I'm not saying that. You don't know. I don't know what their defensive rules were on this. Somebody was definitely supposed to be. They came out and said he was supposed to be on Noah Brown. He was supposed to be on the guy in the back. But either way, like you said, even the guy in the back can make a play on the ball if he has the

opportunity. Right? Like everybody's got free rein for that. You gotta have somebody on there. You ain't supposed to tip it up. Yeah, I like to stay behind it. I like to stay behind the ball and be able to run forward at it. That way I can meet the the angle better. Yeah, try and knock it down. Yeah. Either way, though, you got to you got to try and deflect that thing down by if if possible, by all means. And he just he couldn't get a good a good hit on it, man. And it's just a bunch of a bunch of stuff that just sucks, man,

because he's he's taking a lot of heat right now. Yeah. Right. And and you know, he did the right thing by trying to let everybody know. That's all you can do. And I think Coach Iberfus is a great coach. I played against him when he was in Dallas a lot. And he used to give me, him and Sean Lee and some of the backers they had. I think he's a fantastic coach. This shouldn't have ever happened.

I think if you make the right call in the first one and you play sideline and I just don't think you get into this situation to begin with. Yeah moving on though. Let's talk a little Browns football baby a little believe land up there in the Lake Erie, baby. Hey, yo, James leads Browns in an upset victory. James Winston made his first starts as 2002 and led the Browns to an incredible comeback win.

Why do you think James was able to come in and cook when the Browns had looked so bad on offense? Well, first of all, they had a new play caller, Ken Dorsey was calling plays in this game. But I think also like Jamesis came in. It was Jamis. He had a bunch of turnover worthy plays and he had a bunch of highlight throws. Like this is who Jamis has been his whole career. Like at times Jamis can make magic happen. This is true. Come on. This dude has something every game he plays. It's going to be an electric play either good or bad and it is going to be the best sound bite of all time after the game.

And he's never changed. And he still isn't changing. He knows a white boy from Detroit and bro. This was the quintessential James game. He played great. He had a lot of unbelievable plays. He also had a couple of plays that probably could have been turnovers that got dropped like he's going to put points up. He's going to find a way to put points on the board. It might be, it's gonna be a high scoring game

when Jamis is involved for both teams. I'm not trying to be like, I love, dude, I actually love, I do already know. We, we were big fans of Jay Winston, man. Yeah. Most importantly, we, we got some more iconic quotes from Jamis. like you just mentioned the guy up and the white boy from Detroit. I love that he then followed it up with named Eminem like everybody knows when you said you know, white boy in Detroit, who you're referencing, there's a white boy from Detroit that I really admired named Eminem.

He said you, you only get one shot. Do not miss your chance to blow. This is opportunity lasts once in a lifetime. I mean, it's great. That was his quote after the game. Before the game though, he's in the huddle trying to get everyone fired up and ready for the game. And he says, every one of us has an, oh, here we go. Once in a lifetime.

And with those opportunities, we have to make the most of it. Every one of us have an individual responsibility to go out there and fight for each other. Represent the names on your back, represents the names that's on your head. We don't got no big head. So represent the bands. All right? One play at a time. All right?

Together. He's so good. He's genuinely himself, man. You gotta love it. Well, that's why it's good. Because so many times when people are doing either the soundbites after the game, or the motivational speeches, they're just latching on to like cliches. And it ends up being like nothing exciting. And

everybody's just sitting there like, Oh, my gosh, we shut up. So we can go in there and freaking get dressed for this freaking game already. If you got the right one doing it, though, for sure. And James is the right one. I would be as close to possible every time he's doing it because I'm like, I want to hear what this dude's about to say because it is going to be electric and hilarious. I need to hear exactly what this dude's about to say at all times. Coach quote of the week, Sean Payton had a brutally honest quote about the Panthers in quotes. That's

not a good offense. It's just the truth. We expected that. We're going to see a lot better teams. I mean, Sean Payton has always kept, he's always spoke his mind. He's always spoke his mind. Yeah, he had quite the words to say about Nathaniel Hatchet, I think his name was.

He kind of walked that one back. He knew he kind of went a little bit too hard. He walked it back a little bit last year, but. Because he took some heat. Everybody was giving him shit for it. Yeah, but he still spoke his mind. Panthers cornerback, J.C. Horn, also confronted Sean Payton after the game,

letting him know they didn't appreciate Denver running up the score. Interesting, the Broncos ran a fake field goal and a trick play on fourth and two while up Swartee I mean, it's fucking hilarious. That's what that is. That's fucked. What does he have against the Panthers? Who knows? It's just working on plays, I guess. I don't know. Just got to get it on film. Keep everybody honest. I'm building special teams. Building confidence.

get it on film. Keep everybody honest. I'm building special teams, building confidence. Bucket man. Yeah. All right. Listen, pretty shitty. But at the same time, like, dude, this is the NFL. I don't want to hear nobody getting salty about running. Yeah, this is the man. It's the NFL. You're getting paid to do this. You don't got no right to be complaining about that.

I hear you on that, man. You just got to step up, man. Stop and take. Why are you guys trying? We're literally, it's our job. All right, and that does it for our week eight bold topics brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express. Let's talk a little Jason out of the house.

Hey, already out of the house. Moving on. Let's get out of the house and talk a little Monday night football Out of the house is brought to you by coke zero sugar tackle game day with the irresistible taste of coke zero sugar Is it the best coke ever? I want to try it and decide for yourself. Why don't you tell us? Alrighty, Jason got out of the house yet again. Man, you keep doing this every Monday, don't you? It's my job. Yes, sir. I have to leave the house in the three rivers. The three rivers. How about that, man? You were down on the

rivers hanging out on the water. Yeah. But yeah, it was a lot of fun. The fans made it fun. Steelers. I mean, dude, they were into it. Scott Bempelt pointed out to me something like every team wears their jerseys to games, but in particular, like Steelers, it is like everybody. Nobody is in that stadium. That's a Steelers fan without a Pittsburgh Steelers. It's crazy, man. Yeah, it's like that is the place you see of black and yellow.

Yeah, it's a crazy place to play in. That's for damn sure. We get to go out there and Christmas while everybody's all fired up getting presents and shit. Jason, it's a crazy place to play in. That's for damn sure. We get to go out there and Christmas while everybody's all fired up getting presents and shit. Jason, you are waving around the terrible towel though. I don't know how the birds fans appreciated this but hey man, this is a gift for my man worldwide. Oh yeah. I forgot you're you're on like a world tour getting gifts from everybody. This is cool. That's

right. I'm getting I'm getting all sorts of good gifts. knickknacks. This this towel in particular has been to 17 different stadiums. West said nice. I'm getting all sorts of good gifts, knickknacks. This tile in particular has been to 17 different stadiums, Wes said. Nice. How about that? He's been taking it everywhere. He said if you drop it, the rule is you got to kiss it. Rules are rules. Since this thing's been to 17 stadiums, I'm going to try and avoid. Never washed? It's got some fade to it, but I don't know if that's a sun fade or if that's faded from getting washed. Don't know, can't tell you. Very interesting.

Experience any cool Steelers fan traditions? The boat stuff is pretty dope. There was a guy that was like a flying, Troy Palamalu is what he said. They get on these like boards and they go out there. Yeah, they got that. The terrible towel tradition and like some of the lore behind that and having to kiss it if you drop it,

I think it's pretty cool. Outside of that, we got to hang out with the Coast Guard, got to sit in front of a 50 cal gun on the front of those things, which I might do. You want to like... I was like, man, this thing can do some damage here. I know you guys aren't doing any damage, but it's good to know that these guys got these things in case we need those things. You ever shot one of those things?

What they had on it? Yeah. A 50 cal machine gun? No, on it. Yeah a 50 cal machine gun No, I have not shot a shot of the guy. I haven't done that you need to what have you done to that? Nevada Viva, Las Vegas You can do fucking anything and I got on the top of an old Jeep and They had some bowling pins sitting like about a fucking quarter mile, half a mile down there. And I just was like, Oh my fucking God, this is amazing.

It was electric, dude. I loved every sound. I'd do it again. We need to get this shit done. Jason, you were in a piggy blinders outfit. I don't know that this is necessarily good. I'm telling you, dude, you pop up on that screen. Nobody knows what the fuck you're about to show up looking like. And it's impressive to me. I mean, you don't always pull off the dapper look like this, man. You got your old Englishman hat and that corduroy jacket,

man, you look, I mean, that thing is sweet, dude. The corduroy suit was nice. It looked like a smooth operator up there, dude. The corduroy suit was real nice, and the last game we were at in Buffalo, it was windy, and I was like, dude, I gotta have something thicker. I gotta have some thicker material. We're out here in the night and fall. So the corridor definitely was way warmer. And then the hat just kept the heat in nice. Nice. Well, we can't pass

by you rocking the old two five. That's right. Ryan Clark's old jersey. That's right. Down by the water, man. Showing some love to a legendary stealer. And your, what would you call him? Your new teammate. My deskmate? Your deskmate, nice. I like teammate better. Your new deskmate. Well, I guess it isn't new anymore, it's week eight.

ESPN tweeted out, in quotes, some people would say you are a snack, especially in that outfit. I guess that's what SVP said. Well, that's what this woman was wearing. Oh, is that, oh nice. I'm just here for Jason Kelsey in Snacks. Oh nice, and he was mentioning how-

And then he followed it up with some people who say you are a snack, especially in that outfit. Yeah, you are, you dapper son of a buck. And then somebody else, I think it might've been Scott or maybe it was Marcus said, good thing Kylie's not here. I mean, everybody's just showing love. Showing love to J.Kels up there, man. Well, it was fun. Pittsburgh was awesome. The fans were into it. The terrible time was electric waving that thing around and seeing everybody else wave it around. It's like a

call and response. Pretty dope. The Yinsers. Yeah. So yeah, just kind of accumulating knickknacks. I respect it, man. You get all those trinkets. Got my chicken wing necklace. That's a Mama Kelsey move right there. That is a Mama. Dude, every time she would go on a convention, she would come back with a million pens.

Just a whole, just a bag of shit. Just slinkies and fucking bouncy balls and fucking light up pens and fuck it. Dude, you name it, dude. We used to be like, God damn, is this Christmas? All these little stocking stuffers, mama. That shit's the best. All right, that does it for Out of the House,

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Now it's officially time to bring on our guest. That's right. We are not professional at all, so we're just going to have a fun convo with you. All right. We want to make sure that you knew ahead of time that this is amateur hour over here. OK, let's get into it. So very similar to my acting ability. But all right, here we go.

Can I just say something? Please. Of course. Thomas, I'm so glad that you texted me and told me you had a new phone number. Because I've been texting your number, trying to just gasping you up, telling you you did so good. I was asking you, like, what is your teammates?

What's your people say? Like, you know, how you feeling about it? Did you watch it? And you know what I got? Crickets. And I said, I know. Crickets? No.

I said, I know you ain't got brand new. Oh no, not me, not me. I didn't have to switch it up, though. Did you see how I shook my neck around when I said it? Because that's what I meant. I knew. Bro, you didn't get brand new. Not me, not me. I didn't have to switch it up though. Did you see how I shook my neck around when I said it? Because that's what I meant. Not me. Not me. You know me better than that. It was getting crazy. It was getting crazy. I was finally in a show with someone as amazing as you.

I had everybody hit me up, blown me up. I had to switch it up on them, man. No, I'm sorry about that. You already know. And I'll tell you what, I got clownowned once I started talking about that banana hammock. Yeah, that's Big Peter and the banana splitter. That's my favorite. That's my favorite line. They're very interested in the dynamic on the show. Like everybody's kind of like mind blown on like what's really going on during the show. So that is kind of like, taking like everybody's mind away from me as an actor. They're just they're in they're

involved in golf in the story. They're engulfed in the story now. So it's like, you know, it's good. Yeah, exactly. And then and then during the the character switch up, the look is where I started getting clowned. Ah, that mullet. That mullet suited me in the show, but does not suit me outside of it. I know Chris Jones has said something about this show. I know Chris Jones has been talking about it.

You know what? Chris hasn't came up to me yet. I hope he does though. I hope he does. Because 9-5 is hilarious, man. He's one of a kind. Chris hasn't hasn't came up to me yet. I hope he does though. I hope he does. Because nine five is hilarious man. He's one of a kind. I love it. I love it. I just want to say I thought you did such a good job. I appreciate that Nisi. I hope you're not one of those people who are afraid to watch yourself because I want you to be proud of yourself. I really do. I was definitely watching myself but it's the same thing with like my view on football or really anything that I do even like the TV, the game show that I did on Amazon, it's I look at myself and I'm like, man, I could have did that better. I could have did this

better. I could have did this better. And I just always have this mentality of like, wanting to do things better than what I I did on camera, what I've done in the past and I just grow. That's how you grow. That's how you grow. We all do that. We all look at it and say, oh, I should have made a different choice.

So then the next time you get on camera, you're gonna remember that. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that was a question I wanted to ask you. When we watch ourselves on tape, I feel like every great football player kind of hates the way they play football. I hate it.

They're always trying to get better. Is it similar when like actresses or actors are like watching themselves on tape? Are they like, Oh, I wish I would have done that. Yeah, it's similar. You know, some people do not watch themselves. Really? They absolutely at our place where they're like, I can't. I don't want to watch it. I walk away from it when it's done and I don't think about it.

Not me, if I could watch every take back in the moment, I would because I like to course correct and self adjust in the moment. So what I do is I try to give different, slightly different reads every time so that they have something to work with in the edit. Right, you're so good at that. I remember the first scene we had,

I was just sticking to the script. I was on, I was like word for word, trying to just stick to the script. I wasn't trying to waste anybody's time and you lighten the mood. You made it so comfortable as a professional. And I did see that you were looking at the takes and like, you could see like you were processing how you were doing

things and it was so cool to see your professionalism and everything on set. But before we get to any more questions, we got to get the intro. Yeah, I know what we were having such a good conversation. We gotta get the intro. I'm gonna knock it out. We're gonna go right back to what we were doing. But I'm gonna do this intro real quick. Just to hype this up a little bit. All right, from Cal State University, she's a daytime and prime time Emmy award-winning actress.

You know her from her work in Reno 911, Get It On, Claus Dahmer, and of course, alongside Travis in Grotesque at Eat. She is also our first non-relative female guest. Yes, that's right. That is the wonderful Miss Nisi Nash Miss Nisi I should say this is Nisi Ness Betts, but I love that and I love that. I'm the first woman who's a non-relative Yeah, to get a real one. We were waiting for a real one to come available We appreciate you jumping on with this. You already know we had so much fun shooting Grotesquerie and it was definitely, it was something that I was so blown away by in terms of we kind of mentioned

there already, but your professionalism is just how you made set fun doing the tic-tacs making everybody feel like they were part of the team. You made it a team atmosphere. And that's that's where I really started to feel comfortable in doing everything. And I I can't thank you enough for for everything you've shown me and making everything so much fun. Well, you know, the thing of it, the thing of it is, is that the show is so dark. So I wanted to make sure that in the in-betweens, like we sitting around

looking at dead bodies all day. And blood is on the ground. And you know what I mean? We in the hospital set all day. I wanted to make sure that I kept the crew up. Oh yeah, you definitely did. So that we could still have fun at work. You know, a lot of people go to work and do not have fun.

And I'm like, no, I want everybody to feel like we're having a good time. You know? Oh, yeah. Well, you definitely did that. That's for sure. Well, speaking of everybody on set, everyone wants to know what it was like working next to the diva that is Travis Kelsey. How much did you have to hold his hand? He did fantastic. He really looks great. But I know that just like in football, it's only as good as the people around you in the supporting cast and the other

people that you're on set with. So yeah, what was it like working with the Trav man on a acting set? I'm going to say this. I love your preference in this already. So I'm gonna say it to your face. So I'm gonna say it to your face. I have, listen, you are probably the nicest and the greediest person I've ever met in my life. Wow! You are so, you are so greedy. And you bougie greedy. Have you ever met anybody that was bougie greedy? Ladies and gentlemen, right here.

This man right here. I like these things. Okay, so here's the thing. It's one thing to be like, oh hey, and I seen you do this. Somebody run out and give me a couple of burgers and you know, okay. But then somebody, I'm like, what's that you eating now? My chef prepared this for me. I'm like, what?

And every time, anytime he was not filming, he was eating. I told Travis, I said, hey, we got this scene, they're gonna put food out. You know, maybe you don't wanna eat a lot because whatever you do in the first take, you gotta keep it up all day. He's like, their meatballs look good. I'm like, right?

But maybe, and now you fit 10 to 20 meatballs in. I'm like, now how you feel? I'm like, I need some more caffeine. You are too funny for that. Oh, that is great. I was just trying to make sure I was, you know, eating dietary, you know, I had my diet. I had my nutrition stuff that I had to do in the off season. I'm making up a whole bunch of shit. I just wanted to go ahead.

You already know Chef Koo in the house, baby. Hooking it up out there in California, man. That is too funny. That's so funny you picked up on that. No, but he was a pleasure. It was a pleasure to have on set. And I love that he didn't take himself too seriously. I even had our crew give him different things

that he could do for when you do a field time. What is it when you make the point? You catch the ball. Oh yeah, the touchdown. Oh yeah, the touchdown. Touchdown. Yeah, the TikTok. You already know. And I had field time. Touchdown. Yeah, the tick-tock. You already know. And I had...

I want to field time now. Field time. Yeah, field time. But I don't know sports that much, but I had people give him different ideas for dances he could do. Oh yeah, I still gotta hit a few of those. I haven't been in the end zone enough this year

to hit them, but... He got in this week. You know your favorite one was the Lil' Kim. The Lil' Kim. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey. Who killed that one? I still gotta hit it.

You already know what's coming up. Next touchdown I get. I'm hitting that one. Is there like a etiquette when you're on set with somebody that like actors and actresses know, did you have to really help him acclimate to like this world? Does that make sense? Yes, I do. And one thing that I would say is like sometimes when you don't know everybody

or you're new to a set, you kind of are unto yourself. He got the, you know, the folk he come with and it's like, no, come over here. Talk to, come on, the water's fine. Yeah. We're going to run the words. And you know, what I wanted to also try to help you do, Trav, was to trust your gift. Like, you're naturally charming. You got a little swag about yourself. Use all of those things and don't be married to the words.

Yeah. Because we had the luxury of this, of kind of moving the words around a little bit. Little bit. So how they may feel better in your mouth. You can kind of switch them up a little bit. And I love that, you know, he just leaned right in. He was like, okay, got it.

Let me try this. Let me try that, you know, and- Well, you definitely made me feel comfortable. I just think you turned out great. Yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you. And the show really is so much fun. It really is so cool to watch.

It could be a part of something like that and see it kind of like just the final edits and it finally hit the TV. It is so cool to be a part of it. And I can't thank you and obviously Ryan and Courtney B and everybody involved. That shit was so much fun. Do you know when we had the, when we had the premiere,

so mama Kelsey can, she was cute, she was cute as a butt. Had a little outfit on, I'm like, okay girl. And so I was able to talk to her at the after party. And when I tell you she could not have been prouder of you. You know what I mean? And I'm a mom of three. And you know, sometimes you clap for your kids because you have to.

You're like, oh, okay, baby. Look at her. And then sometimes you like, no. What I liked was watching your mama watch the audience. Because when people were going up in the theater, she was looking around like, that's my baby. You know, it was nice, it was nice. Making mama Kelis proud is always

one of my favorite things to do. I appreciate you sharing that. Yeah. If some of this was your guys freedom of expression, was it Travis's choice to have the mullet with Ed Lachlan? What was that look about? We had to switch it up, man. Your Rico suave one second and then you look like you crawled out of a swamp in the next set. I loved it so much. Because all of the characters had a duality that we played. Because part of it is in Lois's coma state, how she saw people.

And then you got the real life. When she wakes up. Yeah, but we still don't even know. There might be another state. Nesia, I don't know what's happening in this show right now. I am so confused. I cannot wait for the finale. That's so good.

Let me help you. Give you a little bit. Can I give you my theory? Go do it. Let's let's hear this. My theory. And this was my first thought was this gives me this. It feels like we're in like a mental hospital. That was my first thought when I saw the show. Then I'm like, okay, okay, now, now Lois is in the coma. Maybe and then she's and then that got revealed and that came out. I didn't know you would be in a coma too. There was a lot of signs already.

It was all over the place saying she's in a coma. Like, so you're just reading comments. I did. I did. But the first one though, I was like, this feels like for some reason it felt like it was in a mental hospital. Now I'm back into that. I feel like Lois and some of these characters are in some type of institution.

I don't really know what's happening, but that's kind of my theory. So it's not fully put together. Oh my God, Jason. Can I tell you right now? You are so wrong. Stupid. Travis been telling me I'm way off the whole time. I've been trying to tell this guy he

hasn't have a fucking clue. He's just so stubborn in his ways. He's just like, I know, I know. I was like, maybe, maybe, maybe Lois and Merida the same person and maybe I'm like, try it. I don't know. Oh, you're reaching. Oh, you're reaching. All right.

All right. He's in his own head. Yeah. Pump the brakes're reaching. All right, all right. He's in his own head. Yeah. Pump the brakes, brother. All right, I will pump the brakes. Okay, you said you could help me. Help me out. Help me out. Okay, so the beginning of the series,

Lois is in a coma. By the time, and this is everything that's happening in her mind. By the time you get to episode seven, Yes. that's the reveal. Right. She was really in a coma all of those other episodes. Now she's awake. And this is her waking life. The problem in her waking life is that somebody started to recreate the murders that were in her dream. Right? So you

know, here, you could hear the doctor and you could hear people that were in her dreams. Right. So who knows of- You could hear the doctor and you could hear people talking when you were in the coma and that was impacting what was- So who is the person who was really committing these murders based on her dreams? I know, I don't-

I know you don't know, I just heard your theory. Yeah, I'm way off. You don't know. I'm way off. I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm don't know. I'm way off. I'm way off. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. All right, that was it.

It's such a fun story to be a part of though. I'm assuming Ryan came to you with this. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Let's just talk about that for a little bit. You've been in a few other Ryan Murphy projects, correct? Yes, I did Scream Queens. I did Monster and the Jeffrey Dahmer story.

Yep. And one other thing that we did a pilot for that never got picked up. And I was in his very first series called Popular as a guest star. Yeah, so we've worked together a couple of times. Nice, you guys have such a fun relationship. How has that been like growing,

especially winning all these Emmys together and just taking over the TV world. You know, it's so important to me for people that I care about, I consider I have a friendship, I love that I do good work for them. I never want to phone it in and rest on the relationship I have with somebody to be like, Oh, you know, I could just do whatever. So it's so important for me to get it right, especially for people that I love. And then the awards are just the icing on the cake. That's awesome. Well, it's fun as hell working with Ryan. And it

sounds like you got another one. Are we allowed to say you got another one in the works? Because I got another one in the works. I'm doing Ryan's new series. It is called All's Fair. It's about a female, all female law firm led by Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts, Glenn Close, Sarah Paulson, Teyana Taylor, and me. Oh, wow. This is about a cast. Wow. That's awesome.

We talked about a little bit earlier that you watch yourself on film. Do you have a favorite role that like, like in your head, that's your favorite role you've ever done? That's a great question. See, that's tricky. Because, because for a long time, because I started in comedy. Right. I never got the opportunity to play any drama because people thought, oh, we know you, you're the funny girl, you know, and I didn't get a chance. So I have things that I did in my funny life that I love

because I was in that world longer than this one. But oh, that's so hard to pick one. But I would say I did a series on HBO called getting on I did three seasons of it It was an industry darling, but it didn't catch on to the masses But when the industry saw me do that they started to trust me with drama So that was the role that changed my life because it allowed me to show people that I'm not just a one trick pony. I got a lot of tricks up in here.

Hey, multiple tricks. I do. It's actually very cool. You were talking about how you started off in comedy. That really wasn't like the lane that you like wanted to choose. We were kind of talking about this on set one day. No, I never wanted to be funny. Let me tell you, Jason, I told you, I said, I never wanted to be funny. Let me tell you, Jason, I told you, I said,

I never wanted to be funny because I didn't think it was anything. All I did, all funny got me was being in trouble. I got suspended at school. I got pinched at church. I got... They put talks too much on my report card. So my mama said, well, what was you talking about? I was telling jokes. She said, go get the belt, I got a job. So I didn't think funny was anything. I didn't, as people gonna give me money for acting silly. And my mother used to tell me that all the time,

girl, you so silly. So I didn't think I just didn't think it was anything. It sounds like you were born to be an actress and a comedian. That's what it sounds like. I guess so. Then I booked Reno 911 and everything changed. I was like, y'all gonna give me money for acting foolish? This is crazy town. So is is it let me ask you this is comedy easier than drama? What comes more natural

or which one do you have to do more preparation for? Okay, for me, comedy, you use the word easier. But I guess I would if I had to choose I would say that because I was born funny. You're just more naturally that. The other the other side I really have to work to make sure the performance is grounded. I get it right. You know all of the things. And let me tell you, speaking of mamas, my mama was the one that told me she said now you know when you do your

comedies, now you real funny when you do your comedies, now you real funny, but that other stuff, you need to work on that. She told me, she said, mama's telling you, my mother said, you find the best class in town, and I'ma work overtime to pay for your classes. That's a real mama right there. And that's how we got here,

because the other is probably harder for me. Yeah. Yeah. Do you such a cool story, though. That was one of the things that's really unique about this role in particular with Lois is that, like you said, there's multiple states of her mindframe, and you're just killing it. Yeah. Do you map all that out? Like, okay, now I'm in this mindset

as Lois where this is happening. So I'm going to respond body language and like, kind of mentality this way towards this actor. The thing of it is Jason is that for me, the hardest thing about her is where is she in the addiction? Yes. Okay. She suffers from alcoholism. So is she hammered? Is she hungover? Is she tipsy? How many drinks in? Does she need a drink really bad right now?

And she's trying to... What am I playing in each moment of her addiction? Because that's the hardest part, you know, for me, where is she at this point in this moment to moment in the story with the addiction? Absolutely. And you nailed it. And each one, you can tell when you are like,

yeah, the scene between you Trav and Merit where you're confronting each other in the booth, that scene is like electric. When I tell you, you have no idea. I was like, excuse me, what just came out of that? That was like, you know how we always talk about welcome to your NFL moment? Yeah.

That was my welcome to acting moment. Seeing Niti absolutely kill it in that scene and being a part of that scene, that was one of, that was definitely my favorite one to be a part of for sure. It was so, it was so cool to see her smack the glass and walk out of there. You know what was funny about that night trap was that I was doing all this, you were like were like get up you're going to rehab

Intensity and then they would go cut and we would be like I was like look at these culprits right here I did that video, I was like, look at these copers right here. These are the ones that kick the minor. We're doing all of this fun stuff and then they'll be like, and we're back in action. And then I'm like, so it was, you know, once you find it, but once you find it, I can drop back in it.

After I've mapped it out and know what I'm doing, then I could play with y'all, you know, behind the scenes, and know what I'm doing. Then I could play with y'all behind the scenes. You know what I mean? And mapping out that addiction was the hardest part. That's so cool. Well, we got the season finale coming up tonight and this airs, I'm looking forward to it. Apparently my theories have been way off

so I can't wait to see what actually is the case. Oh, you have no idea. At first I thought Travis was the killer. At first I thought for sure it was you. is the case. Oh, you have no. First of all, Travis was a killer. At first, I thought for sure it was you. There's the one scene where you're in it and they don't even know you're walking in the background. I'm like, what's this dude doing? He's working.

I know that I know that figure. You've seen those shadows before, Jason. Let me tell you about about people who text me about Travis. They all started off saying, you know, we're watching the thing. Is he the killer? Just to get you on the line texting him. And then they like,

well, what do you know about his relationship? I said, I knew. You know how it goes. I'm like, man, get off that man's business. I'm a ball, I don't say nothing. You ain't getting nothing out of me. I mean y'all just being nosy, don't ask me nothing. Oh my goodness, that's great.

I appreciate you always and every time someone that has a mic in front of you always ask you something like that. Thank you for always showing love. You know it's real and you know that me and Tay are absolutely happy and I appreciate you always making sure that everybody knows that. So thank you. Honey, I mind my black business. You understand me? I still be worried about myself and what I got going.

Oh my goodness. Nah, you're the best. All right, we'll make sure everyone checks out Grotesquerie on FX tonight, the season finale. We're gonna keep moving this on to, was it your first Chiefs game? I've heard like multiple stories now was when you were with Mama Kelce, was that your first Chiefs game you've ever been to? Very first. But wait,

no, let me take that line back because I saw y'all play against each other. You at the Super Bowl? I was at that game. Yeah. I saw you guys playing against each other. Matter of fact, I had to hook up that chair, so I walked out on the field. I walked out on the field. Uh-huh. And my sister told me, she said,

I don't care what you do, you put on an all green outfit and you represent me. And so. So you were Eagles. I had on my green sweat suit. I was up there doing this. Fly Eagles, fly. I have my green sweat suit on me, JB, my son. We all showed up.

Yeah. And yeah, so I got to see you both play together in that game. And then I like to not think about the game. Maybe I've done some roles and I wish it would go away. But then we all came to see Travis. And let me tell you something, Travis. So we go to the game right out here in L.A. And he was just trying to act like he was so professional as a football player. He's like, you know, I don't know if, you know,

if we gonna take pictures and stuff, because I'm so focused. I'm like, okay. Then he came out there with that stupid mustache. He was trying to act like. He came out there with that stupid mustache. Stupid mustache. You know, he was all on the field and all his boys was like, yo, there's your girl right there. There's your girl. He gonna look over. He was like, I respect

your process. I'm just giving you a heart. I love it. I love it too. It's so good. Totally respect your process. I'm just giving you a heart. I'm just giving you a heart. I love it too. It's so good. I totally respect your process. You know what I mean? I appreciate it. You gotta stay in the zone and you gotta do with the people

who paying you want you to do. I'm not tripping about that. I was more offended at the mustache. It's gone now. It's gone now. it's gone now. I see you finally back to looking decent. Exactly, exactly. That was, you never know, I might've just been, you know,

having that look for another role or something, you know? Oh, okay, okay. Hollywood over here, all right, so when you were at the game with mom, what was it like? Yeah, you saw Mama Kels at the game too. You like watching football games? I do. It was so much fun.

She was loving, she had her home girl with her. And we all took pictures together. And then, you know, you run with a great group of guys. You know, the guys. I appreciate that, yeah. And they all came and checked on us. You good, you need this, you need that. Then we went over to your podcast at a suite. Oh, we got

our podcast swag. Treated you right. Oh, yeah, everybody treated us. So that was that was mama Kelsey. She said, we're going over to the come on. Come on. You're part of the fan. I said, okay girl, come on. Come on. Come on.

You're part of the fam now. So we went over there with her, yes, and got us some swag and all the good things. So everybody really took such good care of us. We had great seats. Thank you. Always, you know it. You know I had to hook it up.

Yeah, it was a really good time. I mean, I would do it again for sure. Are you a Rams fan being from LA or a Raiders or who's your team? I like all the LA teams. I don't have just one. Chargers, Rams. Just like watching football, yeah.

I don't break them up. You know what I mean? Sure. I love the like, when you in the game, when you actually go to a game, better than on TV because everybody is so dressed up and all they regalia and people are cheering and people blowing and yeah all of the the crowd uh energy the pageantry i like that part yeah you got a game you got a game in vegas

coming up we just had it last week and we ended up we ended up beating the Raiders out there in Vegas. Redemption. Oh you had that game already? I thought that game was like... It was literally just last week. I thought it was around Thanksgiving. I was gonna pull up. I'm trying to... You know what? We might play... We play the Raiders in KC. Yeah on Friday right? Yeah so it's the Friday after Thanksgiving. That one's in Kansas City though. You're more than welcome. You can come on KC roll on out. You want to hear some you want to hear some some electric crowd? Now Kansas City has it for you Come on now

There we go. You already know I'm rolling the red carpet out for you every time every time everybody you with you know Is there anything with the game, do you have any questions about football? Is there any, I know we just had like a touchdown, like are there any phrases or anything you wanna ask us about the sport of football that we can help you with? Oh, you know what, I'm glad you asked that because I called, what did I, the thing I got wrong,

I said field time, but what is it? Field time, touchdown. is your time touchdown touchdown touchdown? Okay, so I don't really understand false start. Does that mean that they moved? Before the way, I don't know what that means. Yeah Start you're gonna have to so basically Nisi if you become set as an offensive player and you think the ball is getting snapped and you move or flinch, that is a false start. Oh, you can't even flinch.

So you're not allowed to move forward before the ball is snapped on offense. And the same thing on defense. You can't cross that line of scrimmage until the ball is snapped. That's called off off sides on defense or encroachment. Like a false start is only on the offense and it's when the offense moves forward or like gives like a An action as if the place starting before the balls snapped and they don't deduct points for that. No, you just move back five yards Oh, that's me What why do they say they penalize you if you make a touchdown and you celebrate?

I gave you a whole group of dancers to do. Why won't they let you celebrate if you get a touchdown? Nisi, you're speaking on behalf of, I think, every fan on the planet. I think everybody wants to see. NFL players. Yeah. Yeah. I think everybody wants to see more dancing. You can dance. You just can't twerk. They're restrictive.

Can't swim dances and can't do sexual dances and to. Yeah, you can't only two pumps or three pumps. Only two pumps. No pumps. You can't pumps. You can't pumps. You can't simulate. You can't simulate any type of weaponry.

So any type of gun or anything will get you that will get you a taunting foul. Oh, you can't do that. No, I can't use that. But now if you do it, does that mean that they push your team back again or what do they do? Yeah, you would get a 15 yard either unsportsmanlike or taunting penalty.

And then you get a FedEx. And then you would get fined, potentially. You get a FedEx delivery at your locker that tells you you just got fined for not representing the NFL in the proper way. Yeah. Have you ever got a FedEx? That you know.

Are you kidding me? You know it. Travis is basically a FedEx. He's basically part-time FedEx delivery man. Yeah, I like to play the game for the love of the game. So you just basically like, I'ma do it, I'ma do it, and I'ma pay my fine. So every now and then, every now and then,

I've become more regarded and haven't really done it as much, but by earlier years, I was not afraid to get fined. He was a wild boy. Oh my goodness. Oh yes. In many ways. I've gotten ejected from a game because I did something silly like that,

but that's a story for another day. day through a flag at an official. Oh All right, we're gonna ask you some questions now again me see in our this next segment we have it's called we got to ask You don't have to answer. All right, and it's exactly what it sounds like We're just gonna ask you some rapid fire questions and you decide if you want to answer now. Jason go ahead jump it off. We mentioned it earlier but can I just ask about Reno 911 that was one of Travis and I's favorite shows growing up. Oh yeah. You were fantastic. How fun was it working on that show because it looked like the cast just loved each other and everything that happened in that show. It

was a lot of fun, great fun. The worst thing about it and the best thing about it was the booty that I wore in it. It was they took a mold of my real butt magnified it three times. And in the winter when we shot it was great because I was never cold outside. I was always warm. But in the summertime, I felt like I was about to die. Yeah, yeah, that's bad. Yeah. I can see how that would not be good. Yes.

Okay, go. What's the next one? So you had the BBL in the Reno number one? I did, before it was even popular. Before it was even popular. Right? It's too good. Best and worst audition.

My best and my worst are the same audition. Really? Tell me, how's that possible? It was my very first audition. And I walked in and I didn't know that you read and they'll tell you later. So I said, I've read the material and the guy said, thank you.

I said, you're welcome. Thank you. And I said, you welcome. Thank you. And I said, don't mention it. He was like, thank you, you may go. I said, oh, y'all are telling me to leave. Would you all pick me? He was like, someone will let you know, dear. And I said, let me know when I'm broke.

I got a baby. I need to try.. And I said, let me know when. I'm broke, I got a baby. I need a job. I don't, let me know when. You can't just keep me on ice like this, yeah. So I cut up, I pointed my finger in their face and told them how mad I was. And then they still ended up calling me and giving me the job.

It was my very first movie and I was in it with Whoopi Goldberg, Drew Barrymore. It was called Boys on the Side. And I played woman in the diner. There we go, woman in the diner. Yes, yes. Yes. That's so cool.

Who doesn't love a good diner? Who's the better game show host, you or Travis? Me. There we go. That was easy. Next question. I could have told you that one. You've done everything from movies, TV, game show, reality, voiceover work.

If you could only do one for the rest of your career, what would it be? Jesus. TV. What's the biggest difference from TVs and movies from your perspective? TV, you build a family. Like if you, because it goes on for years. You love these people. You go to their weddings.

You see their kids graduate. You have more of a family. A movie, you in it for a couple weeks and then you like deuces onto the next. So I do like, you know, it's like having a team. I like that part about doing television. That's awesome. That's awesome. Do you have a favorite co-star? Speaking of family, do you have a favorite co-star? Obviously can't say Travis, Travis is exquisite. Not that he was gonna be the answer.

Ever, yeah. She's worked with the best. My favorite person that I ever worked with on camera is the one I lay next to every night. Okay. My spouse. When we can share our art together, it's when I'm the happiest.

Oh, that's so cool. Love that, love that. True story. That's awesome. I love that. You when I'm the happiest. Oh, that's so cool. Love that. Love that. True story. That's awesome. I love that. You know I'm a lover, Travis. Very much so. You like the team. You like to feel a part of it all. Come on. Do you have a welcome to Hollywood moment?

My welcome to Hollywood moment. Kind of how I was describing like a welcome to the NFL moment with me. You know what? Yeah, go ahead. Hollywood. Kind of how I was describing like a welcome to the NFL moment with me. You know what? Yeah, go ahead. Yup, I do. I went to audition for something and I had all of this stuff on the back of my resume.

I didn't know everything I had on the back of it was trash. Okay? And the guy, he was an assistant at the time, said, girlfriend, come here. He said, I'm gonna help you with this. And he crossed all the, time said, girlfriend, come here. He said, I'm gonna help you with this. And he crossed all the, he said, nobody cares that you were the second winner up in a beauty pageant. Let me cross that out.

Nobody cares that you, he just all the little things that I, and they were little things, but I was trying to make my resume look like something. He crossed everything out. And I said, but I'm about to go in there with my picture and I only have one thing on it. And he said, but it's the right thing. And we became dear friends.

He became a big deal casting director. And now he's the head muckety muck at the network. And it was the moment where somebody reached across the line and was like, come here, baby, because you don't know no better. Let me help you. And and was like, come here, baby, because you don't know no better. Let me help you. And I was like, okay. You know, it was the first time that I felt like

I had somebody to just look out for me. Yeah, I believed in you for whatever reason. Yeah, that's awesome. But, oh, wait, here's the other one, and I'm gonna squeeze this in. Yeah, please do. I'm a little girl, I'm eight years old. I see this actor on Hollywood

Boulevard where all the stars were and I said daddy that man is an actor. He said baby that's Ed Asner. He used to be on the Mary Tyler Moore Show. I said I walked over and I said sir I know you're an actor and you don't know me but my name is gonna be right here on this ground. He was like yeah kid scram. Get out of here. Scram here say right? Yeah, he walked away and I said, remember my name. I ended up getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Woo! I send him a letter. We told you, motherfuckers.

I don't know if you remember me. You know, this happened between us. And he said, of course I know your name. I'm glad you didn't let me discourage you, but I'm not able to come to your ceremony. I said, okay, well thank you. And the day before, his assistant called my team and said, he'll be there.

I could not even look at him. I had to just look this way because my fake eyelashes was about to fall off from crying. And so Ed Asner, you know, 40 years later, showed up at my star ceremony. And it said to me the power of the spoken word. I spoke that thing. I mean, you know, it took a long time to manifest,

but it still manifested. Oh yeah, yes it did. Manifested beautifully. All manifest, but it still manifested. Oh yeah, yes it did. Manifested beautifully. All right, it's Halloween Eve. Yes. Wednesday will be Halloween, yeah. Do you have a go-to Halloween movie? No, but I go hard with a costume.

Okay. Ooh, nice. What's your go-to? Have you already worn your Halloween costume this year? I'm getting ready to take photos for it when I stop talking to you. Are you allowed to reveal it since it's going to be tomorrow? Or is it a surprise? Or is it a surprise? You want to keep it a surprise?

It's cool. You can keep it a surprise. It's a surprise. We'll be tuned in. We'll be tuned in. Yes. We do a lot of, we do couples' costumes. So we always try to figure out some sort of iconic couple. What were you guys last year? Last year, I was Jessica Rabbit. My better half was a detective.

Love that. The year before that, we were Asap Rocky and Rihanna at the Met. The year before that, we were Kelly and Nelly from the Dilemma video. Ooh, okay. Classic. We the dilemma video. Oh, okay. Classic. Yeah, classic.

Yeah, classic. You already know. We had some teammates, Chris Jones on the show earlier. I'm 95 for the defense on the Chiefs, if you're not familiar. He described his first impression of me as Malibu's most wanted. You were actually in that movie. What are you saying? Do you agree or disagree?

I absolutely disagree. You don't think Travis is B-Rat? He's not B-Rat? Tell him to eat. You don't know what he is talking about. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I enjoy a good getting toasted though, that's the best. Oh yeah.

Last question, do you have any advice for other athletes trying to break into acting? You know, I would say if you're serious about it, take class because you wanna be prepared. You wanna know the lingo. You know, if they tell you camera left, what does that mean to you? You want, if they say hit your mark,

if they say any of the language of a set, you just want to be familiar because you don't, you know, you're not going to be as comfortable if you feel like a fish out of water. So I would say prepare. And get you a knee seat. I was literally just about to say it. I was like, yeah, make sure you work with somebody

as good as Niecy, because it makes it a whole lot easier on you. Niecy Nash Betts, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much. And everybody, make sure you check out Grotesquerie tonight. The season finale on FX is going to be absolutely mind blowing. And congrats on all the success, Nece. We are so happy and so honored that you came on the show and you are the you are the absolute and we're going to be tuned in. We're going to be

tuned in on this Halloween costume. Oh, you better. That's right. You already know. We appreciate you. Bye y'all. See you. See you, Nece. And that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to our guest, Niecy Nash. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube to the New Heights channel and follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Reminder, you can listen to the new episodes of New Heights early and ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus and the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

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dude, it's almost just every single week. I just think they're going to they're going to figure it out. It's going to happen. They got unbelievable players. They got fucking. They got a good opportunity. They're playing the Patriots. Their coach just called them the softest team. He just called them soft the week before. They go out, they've traded for Adams. They've made all these picks.

All this stuff has happened. And then it turns out the Patriots got hard somehow and found a way to beat the Jets. What do you got to say? Got a hard chill out. Got time. They got to find some by Agra sitting around and they. It's well, they swirled up on a fucking. Jesus, come on.

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