New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Julian Edelman & Cooper Kupp on Super Bowl 60, NFL Beauty Pageants, and Burger Flipping OCs | EP 178

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. It’s Super Bowl week, so Julian Edelman and Cooper Kupp are here to help us break down the big game.But first, Jason shares his thoughts on the Eagles new Offensive Coordinator Sean Mannion, Travis gives us a preview of the Waste Management Open, we pitch a new idea for a Chiefs 30 for 30, and let you know how to get Big Game ready over at www.kelceclubhouse.comNext, Julian Edelman makes his return to the program. He tells us why he’s confident in the Patriots, why Super Bowl week is a marathon, his favorite Coach Vrabel stories, and what it was like when he played in his first Super Bowl. Later, Cooper Kupp joins us to talk about making his second appearance in the Super Bowl, what it’s been like playing for a new team, why his thankful for the NFL script writers, why he’s high on Sam Darnold, and he shares how to brew the best cup of coffee. Finally, we hand out some stamps of the week. Will it go to the boxer who get his hair punched off, a lacrosse player getting jacked up, our new favorite offensive lineman Gennings Dunker, or the all bald staff of the Tennessee Titans. We’ve also got a bonus guest for you guys, Sam Salvo the young Eagles fan who went viral for telling players to pack their bags and coaches to flip burgers is here to share his thoughts on the Eagles offense. Check out all of our new merch big game essentials at https://amzlink.to/az0JVda6JMjOrWatch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowYou can also listen to new episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ...Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwSend something to the New Heights Mailbox. Don’t be weird though. C/O New Heights Productions135 E OLIVE AVE, BURBANK, CA 91502Support the show: INTUIT TURBOTAX: Intuit TurboTax: Learn more at https://turbotax.intuit.com/?cid=bn_wk_12REESE’S: Grab REESE’S OREO® Cups today, found wherever candy is soldABODE ACROBAT: Adobe Acrobat transforms your documents into shareable, AI-powered PDF Spaces with access to easy content creation and trusted PDF tools that help you take any project from idea to done. Do that with Acrobat.XFINITY: Cheer on Team USA and keep the same internet price through the next Olympic Winter Games with the Xfinity 5 Year Price Guarantee. One price. 5 years. Guaranteed. Get it now at https://www.xfinity.com/teamusa Restrictions apply. Select plans only.PEPSI ZERO SUGAR: Let your taste decide! Visit https://www.pepsi.com/where-to-buy to find Pepsi Zero Sugar near you. ALLSTATE: Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://allstate.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Shout out to those Bearcats. Subscribe on YouTube, 1G+, wherever you get your podcast, and make sure you follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S. We've got a lot of fun clips throughout the weekend, especially coming up to Super Bowl weekend. We're going to have some good shit. Jason right now is going to tell you about all the wonderful shit that we have coming up on this episode specifically.

That's right, 92 percenters. We've got another great episode. It's Super Bowl Week. We'll preview the big game, and we've got two incredible guests to help us do it. That's right. Cooper Cup and Juliannelement are on the show right now today, and we're going to let them kind of tell us what they think, as well as what's the come for Super Bowl 60. But before we get into that, let's get into some of that. New news.

New News. New News is brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cups. And the newest news of New News is that the Eagles have finally hired an office coordinator, Sean Mannion. How about it? For those of you that are unaware, Sean Mannion's past and what he is, I guess what his lineage is, he has been in the McVeigh tree pretty much his entire career. He was with the Rams briefly under Jeff Fisher. But for the most part, he has been with Sean McVeigh in the Rams.

He's been with Kevin O'Connell in the Vikings. And he has more importantly only been coaching for two years under the Matt LaFleur tree in Green Bay. So he is very well versed. in that specific coaching tree. What does that tell me? That system, that tells me the Eagles offense is going to look drastically different. That's a signal that the Eagles are going to try and move into where a lot of the NFL is going, which is a lot of the run, play action motion offenses that are really spreading across the league

because they've been very successful. A lot of this stuff is rooted in the Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak lineages back in the 90s, Denver Broncos era, Terrell Davis, John Elway, and rooted in an outside zone boot. These offenses are doing more duo. Don't forget how well that tight end can thrive in these offense with a little Shannon Sharp, man. Well, you're right. Uncle's a part of those Broncos years. This is a signal that the Eagles are going to train drastically and probably change in a way

that a lot of Eagles fans want them to do. There's been a lot of noise throughout the year about, you know, stagnant offenses. limited route receiver route trees. You know, a lot of things that Monday morning quarterbacks have been showing clips of and getting Eagles fans fired up about. Eagles fans have been voicing their displeasure of what the offense looked like. This is a clear sign that that is going to be drastically different next year. I'm excited to see what this looks like.

Jalen's under center a lot more in this type of offense. And what that does for Sequin, what that does for Jalen in terms of run fakes, and things like that. Obviously, like, he's always been a kind of in the gun kind of quarterback. But I think there's something about what this offense, this style of offense does to help a quarterback if he just dives in and accept it. Now, don't get me wrong, it's Jalen Hertz. They're going to do stuff out of the gun because that's where he's comfortable.

And they're going to, they're going to kind of mold this thing around him because he's the, he's the signal caller. But at the same time, I'm interested to see, you know, how they're going to be, using these big offensive linemen in the outside zone and all the different variations of it. It's going to be fun to see how it all kind of unfolds. Yeah, I think you bring up a good point about it molding around Jalen Hertz. I think it'll be interesting to see how much this offense for the Eagles next year does look like a lot of these other McVe-Shannahan tree coaches and what he did in what he did in Green Bay with

a floor versus what the Eagles have had success with with Jalen Hertz and the skill set that he has. they, when they had Malik Willis play in this year, they did a lot more of gun runs and zone reads and things like that. Jordan Love will do that stuff as well. The one thing I really like about Sean Man is that he has familiarity a little bit in that stuff as well, especially as a quarterback coach. He understands, you know, how do we utilize the strengths of the signal caller? You saw Jordan Love develop when he got to Green Bay and become a better player.

So there's a lot of things that I like out of what appears to be Sean Mannion's not just his past experiences and players he's coached, but also how those players have developed and gotten better. I also like that he's a fast riser, right? Two years, and all of a sudden he's an offensive coordinator. That tells me that there's a lot of other coaches that are speaking very highly of this guy, right? Yep.

You don't get an opportunity like this without a lot of people vouching for you this early. I'm excited to see what this thing looks like I really am. People in Philadelphia are getting what they ask for. They're going to get a completely different version of this highly skilled and highly powerful offense, as well as everyone's coming back healthy. So it's definitely going to be something that is going to be fun to watch. No doubt.

There is still the question mark. I mean, the big thing everybody's talking about, he's never called plays, right? That's the big negative. And most of the really good play callers that are doing a great job currently in the NFL already have jobs, right? There was a guy available, Mike McDaniel. He took the L.A. job.

Brian Dable takes a Tennessee job. So, you know, who else do you get that is, you feel really confident in? They decided to go with the guy who's up and coming and has a lot of interesting backgrounds and ways to kind of shift and mold the ovens into something new. And we're just going to have to wait and see how he is as a play caller. I hear you. And don't get me wrong, having Andy Reid is my play caller my entire life. I have been the most fortunate of having it a really seasoned play caller that knows when to dial these things up.

But at the end of the day, there's going to be, you know, there's going to be those big time situational plays where, yeah, you're really leaning on the coach to put you in a good spot. But the majority, I think, of the time in the NFL, you're going out there. You're having to make something work. And so at the end, you have the players there. And it's just the accountability and making sure that it all meshes well and that the coaches are putting them in good positions. but at the end of the day, you know, going out there and making those fucking plays is what's going to change the game. No doubt.

And there's a question in here, what does he have to do to win over the Philly Faithful? I mean, it's not complicated. You go out there and win games and you have a good offense. I mean, there's not an easy way to do it. I mean, sometimes you got to kick the biggest, you got to go jail rules, right? When you go to jail, there's a lot of intimidating people.

You don't know anything about jail, Jason. Well, I hear this, though. I hear this from people who have been to jail. Joe, I've heard of movies, so it's got to have some truth. You go up to the biggest, baddest guy, and you start a fight, right? To set the tone that I'm not to be fucked with, right? So I think Sean Mania needs to go to the biggest baddest Philadelphia Eagles fans' house and just go and egg it.

He's just got to egg their house, preemptively egg their house. Take the fight to them. Just start egging houses? Listen, we do have some film breakdown in video that we're going to be, diving into from Sean Mannion and Green Bay and looking at, you know, what this offense looks like. I think we've wanted to get into video breakdowns before. It's not the easiest to figure out virtually and with all the editing and whatnot. But we've tried to do something and we're only going to get better at it.

Yeah, so we're going to be doing some film breakdown of why we like the higher, why we don't, what we think it'll incorporate into the Philadelphia Eagles offense as well as just watching ball. I love watching talking ball and Green Bay was doing some really cool, interesting things. So yeah, keep a look out on the YouTube channel for when that comes out. And yeah, we also have a special guest at the end of the episode today. You guys are not going to want to miss this. Who was not the biggest fan of Kevin Petullo, as you guys might remember, we got Sam Salvo, the young man who went virtual for saying that Kevin Petullo should be flipping burgers.

And A.J. Brown needs to start packing his bags. At the end of the episode, he's a young star in the making. And we're going to have him on to talk about this new hire in Sean Mannion. Can't fucking wait. Travis is headed to Waste Management's Open Pro-Am. Yes, sir. Travis, you've ever been there before you've played in it? So those of you that don't know what it is,

it's the PGA tournament out in Arizona, out in Phoenix. The Waste Management Open is iconic. It's iconic for how much of a party it is all weekend. The infamous hole 16, par three is fucking electric. They create an entire arena around a par three. It's like it's done like no other hole in golf and it's epic man I've always wanted to play in it I've always wanted to obviously play in the PGA but I've always wanted to actually like play the course while this grandstand is there and it's pretty fucking cool that uh that I'm getting

the opportunity to that's right well famously in the past the tournament has had to suspend alcohol sales because it is that wild folks waste management does not mess around tramp are you ready for this who you paired with um am i I don't know if I'm allowed to say or if I'm if I even know exactly who it is that I'm paired with whoever I'm playing with they're a fucking PGA golfer you know what I mean so uh anytime I'm I'm around you know pros in different uh in different sports I always get pumped to like just like I don't kind of pick their brain and um be a part of their world so this would be this would be fucking pretty damn cool especially at a tournament like waste management that part three what's the

distance on that sucker. Do you know? Last year it was anywhere from like 150 to 180. Okay. Okay. So it's not, it's not like a crazy distance. I think they give people the excitement that only like somebody might jar this. You know, it's not like the the hardest like, you know, green to hit. So like a two 30 where you're like trying to choose or am I hitting a long iron or what am I doing here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't fucking wait. I'm fucking pumped for this. I haven't swung a golf club in three weeks. This will be so much fun to just go out there and try not to hit one off of the fucking nozzle and smoke somebody in the stands, which would also be hilarious. I'm either going for that or going to jar one, baby.

Kill one or holding one. Got it. All right. ESPN is airing the Philly Special this Friday, February 6th. A30 for 30 is coming out on the Philly Special. That's right. What? Are you in it?

I am. Yes, I'm in it. Nick Foles is in. And everybody that touched the ball in the Philly special as well as Doug Peterson, who made the call. Doug E.P. Listen, it's really all-encompassing of that Super Bowl run, but the emphasis is definitely on that play in particular and that moment for Philadelphia. So it was a blast to be a part of. All of us got together, me, Corey, Trey Burton, Nick Foles and Doug Peterson in Philadelphia to reminisce about the play and talk about what led to that moment.

So that was a lot of fun. And I can't wait to see what the final product looks like. Like, man, I think... Dude, I can't wait either. Man, it was just so wild. Fourth and one in the Super Bowl. Biggest game your life. 30 seconds left in the half.

Oh, I can't fucking wait. God, doggone, man. Talk about crazy weather in the United States right now. That fucking week in Minnesota. Holy shit. It was a balmy, what, 12? I don't remember. I just remember leaving the stadium.

And it was cold as fuck. And it was a blizzard the whole time. Like, literally, I remember this is kind of, when Uber started and like Lyft and all these car services really started to like become a thing. And I'm over here trying to get them everywhere. And they're like, bro, I'm, I can't even get to you. Like the roads are so bad. The traffic is all backed up because there's really nowhere for everybody to go because everyone's driving so slow.

Like it was like you had to get an Uber an hour and a half in advance. And it was like, man, it was insane. But it made it that much more fun to kind of be in that bubble downtown with everyone. Because everyone was just like, you know what? I'm not going out to the Mall of America because I can't fucking get there. You know, I'm going to go ahead and just hit the bars and hit these restaurants around downtown and meet up with friends. And, man, it made it for such a fucking unique Super Bowl, man.

It was so cool to, you know, see my brother win his first Super Bowl, but also, you know, be amongst the madness that was that Minnesota downtown that year. It was wild. It sure was. I was just thankful for all the skywalks, not having to go outside. Dude, the skywalks. how about they got that shit figured out in Minnesota, man. If they were going to make a doc about any other game or play from your career,

what do you think they'd make a doc about, Treve? Me? Like the Chiefs? Or something in your career? I think it would probably be the three jet wasp, the play in the Super Bowl to Tyreek where we're down two scores and we need a huge player, down three scores, and need a huge play down to our last, you know,

or what felt like our last dollar. and Tyree came up fucking big with Coach BN and me calling the right play and Pat kind of throwing out, throwing it out there as famous words, but we got wasp, what about wasp? Man, absolutely electric. So I'd say that's probably our Philly special in that regard, and that's the only one that really comes in mind. All right.

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Don't forget that charcoal, baby. Yeah. The X's and O's plates. Make it football centric. Live it up. I mean, this is the time of year man this is basically a national holiday Super Bowl time dude I don't know whose Super Bowl party it was I don't even know whose house we were at I just remember mom and dad taking us to a Super Bowl party and it was the year that the Titans played

the Rams in the Super Bowl and it came down to that last like play you remember this the greatest show to I don't fucking know but I remember it like it was yesterday the whole house that like it was a they were all cheering for the Rams for sure it was a St. Louis like house because the entire, like I just remember Kurt Warner memorabilia being everywhere and all the Cups and

everything were St. Louis. All the napkins were St. Louis. And it's just something about that as a kid, man. It's just implemented in my fucking brain. All right. Now, once again, that's new news brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cups. Let's keep this thing moving into a little bit of Super Bowl, bold topics. That's right. It's the big game this Sunday. And we got some big things to talk about. First thing is that bold topics is brought to you by Xfinity. That's right. This week we're bringing some friends on to talk about this big game. And as always, we have our notorious introductioneer.

I just made up a word. You know guys know what I'm talking about. Jason. An introduction ear, but introduction ear. I see what you did there. Yeah. Jason. Either way, we got some awesome guests.

Let's get to the first one right now. Here to represent the New England Patriots. He is the host of games with names and dudes on dudes podcasts. A seventh-th or pickout against a kid state three-time Super Bowl MVP. 92% is please welcome back to the show for his second appearance, Mr. Julian Edelman. Edel nut, Edel nut himself. He's back.

How you guys doing? How you guys doing? Thanks for having me. Doing great, man. It's Super Bowl weekend. No job January over here, man. Just enjoying some free time. Watching some good ball on the Sundays, man.

You're not used to that, though. That's probably an uncomfortable feeling, huh? Yeah, you know the feeling, dude. You know the feeling. I get it. I get it. When you go to, I mean, you both have been to a bunch of Super Bowls and a lot of them in a short amount of time. Like your body clock is messed up that first time you're not in it. You're like, what's going on?

Like, I'm growing a beard. I'm five years out. It just feels right. I'm like, what the hell are we doing? It looks good, man. Why am I doing this still? Don't change it. Don't change it. It's stupid.

It's 80 degrees. You're not in Boston anymore, Jules. You don't need that. I know. No. All right. Well, should we get right into the Pats? What do you think?

Let's do it, dude. How you feel? What's your confidence level for the Super Bowl for the Patriots? Well, I'm excited. I'm super excited. And I am very confident with the Patriots going into this game. Yeah. And there's been a lot of talk about the easy road, the schedule,

young football team going against a juggernaut. And a lot of these, narratives are things that this organization has dealt with before. So, you know, I'm very interested to see the coaches of the Patriots and what they game playing going into this thing. They've got a lot of experience in this. You know, Braves, yeah, he's never coached in one, but he's got Josh McDaniels who's coached in 10.

Yeah. He's been a former head coach. Graves has played in this thing. So I just think there's a lot of value in that experience of the routine of the Super Bowl. Because you guys know more than anyone right now, this game is a different game. Completely different. And the little things that the coaches prepare you for, or at least me, I saw come to fruition in the game. So I think I'm excited with their opportunity.

Yeah, man. So there's something we wanted to ask you. is a young team. There's a lot of guys that haven't played in it. You mentioned Braves, your organization, have a ton of experience in this game. Right. You yourself, obviously, a ton of experience playing in this game in this week. What piece of advice would you give the guys that are playing in it for the first time, the Drake Mays and the young players? What would you tell them? My advice would be is keep the routine the same. Maybe, maybe if you want, you know, do a little couple extraers. Like, I'd always catch another like 500 balls after practice or, you know,

something that wouldn't tax my body, but fundamentally get me confident and keep the routine the same. You know, you guys are here for a reason. It's because of how you prepared all year going into a game. It always worked, you know, and it continued to work. So you don't have to do too much. And then one last thing I would tell them, you know, be prepared for a marathon, not a sprint. This thing, this game is a, it's longer. Yeah. Be prepared for, you know, spurts of rhythm throughout the game and take advantage of that. Yeah. But know that this is a long game and the team that wins is the team that makes the least amount of mistakes, not the team that makes the most plays. If you watch,

you know, it's the team that makes the least amount of mistakes, you know, left tackle jumping off sides, a receiver not breaking hot on a hot route, and it's an interception, you know, the quarterback, not getting the right protection, things that we're not going to see that you need to check the box every, you know, play when we're evaluating our plays after the game, like, just don't have those negative plays. The team that has the least amount of those wins. Yeah. Dude, it's crazy to say that because a lot of the times in these big games, especially early

on you feel like you got to be your greatest you feel like you got to make that extra that crazy one-handed catch when no one like expects you to make the play but it's really just those little things that you know you're getting that cut off block on the back side so if that thing you know peels back to you know so you can get six yards exactly just so you can get a few yards and get downhill and now you're not playing behind the sticks and things like that it's it's such a easy concept to like talk about but when you're in it man you want to be be your best and you want to be the fucking one that like catapults the the guys to the to the next game or to the to the to the to the to the to the to the win and it's like man if you just go out

there and and focus on doing those little things that jobs those those big plays when the instincts are are when you're in it and those big plays need to be made you're you'll make them by just like being you know you don't got to be an extra version of yourself so I'm so with you on that man absolutely and then you know like and and and it sounds easy. Oh, hey, just do it. But the distractions and the, you know, the pre-game

ceremonies and the 28-minute half time, there are so many different variables that make it so much harder than a regular game. Yes. You know what I mean? So that lull, it's not going to be a sprint. This thing's not going to happen after, you know, you stop,

you hold the team three and out, you go and score, oh, this game's over. You know, no, this thing's going to be a marathon. on. They're always close more than they're not. Right. Which they can get to not being close. They can be a blowout, but more than not, it's usually a close game.

Have you talked to Braves at all? Yeah, I talked to Braves week three when they lost to this. Who'd they lose to? Was it the Raiders? No, no, it was the Saints maybe. I had the Hall of Fame induction. Brabs came to the ceremony. And that was like one of the last times they lost.

But yeah, we talked a little bit. He kind of busted my ball, said I went a little long on my Hall of Fame speech and told me, you know, he goes, Jules, you know, hey, just to give you a reminder, half time, I know you're going to speak to the crowd and everything. Just remember, it's 12 minutes. All right, but it's 12 minutes in the regular season. What a God. You missed you missed him by like one year, right, in terms of playing, uh, playing with him? I missed him by one year. He got signed to the Chiefs. I got drafted in. But, uh, we used to go to the Kentucky. Derby together and we had so much crossover that, you know, I feel like I played with them. And the stories about Braves lived on past Braves, just in the locker room. I can only imagine, dude. If you got a good one, please share, man.

He's a Northeast Ohio guy. So watching Braves at Ohio State and then obviously at the Patriots is like, fucking, I feel like he's like a part of my family for some reason. It was always like, hey, you know, Brabs would have killed you for getting on this taping table as a rookie before this guy. Like little things like that. And then you always heard, you know, coach would reference, other coaches would reference, oh, you know, if we're able to ate that up on scout team or, you know,

this guy was one of the smartest football players that we've ever seen. And when you're hearing that from, you know, the coaches that we had that I think, you know, are pretty dang good. Yeah. You know, if they're going to carry a guy's name, he must have been doing something right. Yeah. Him and Rodney Harrison. They always talked about Rodney.

They talked about a lot of those former guys, but they always talked about Braves in a great fashion, and it's been really cool to see him. He's always been a stud, though. It's not like, oh, this is his first time doing good things. He was great with Tennessee. He was, you know, when he went to Ohio, stayed as a younger coach,

and he's done great things, anything he's done. So it's been really cool to seek. Oh, yeah. I was going to ask you, what do you think has enabled him to have so much success so quickly in New England, like in one year to be in the Super Bowl to turn it around from what it's been the last couple years. I mean, it's

fucking amazing. It is. I think it's a combination of things. I think RKK, Mr. Kraft, making the right call, getting the right people in the building at the right time. I think it's the relationship between Elliot Wolf, Stretch, Vrable, whoever's getting the players

in. They've hit on a lot of their free agents. Milton Williams been lights out, Spillane's been lights out, digs in the offensive sides brought a new attitude to that receiver room. And then they have 11 rookies that they've drafted on the team. So, you know, they've been hitting on guys they've brought in, guys they've drafted, and Drake may having Josh McDaniels this year, I think, has been huge. So I think it's a combination of like the perfect storm of things happening.

And things can happen that quick in this league because, you know, it's built on parity and the crappiest team is not as crappy as you think in this league. Like they're like three players, five players away, which can be hit in a draft or through free agency, however your team is built. So I think it's a combination of things. Love it, love it. And Ray, it's a great coach too, you know. We got Cooper Cup coming on here after you, brother, to represent the Seattle side,

two of the best wide receivers ever to play in the Super Bowl, man. Cooper's coming back for his second run at it. You got anything you want to say to Cooper? Have anything, I have any questions for him? Ask him, I've been making my French press coffee a little weird. Just ask him, what's the weight on how much I got to put in? Because he's a big coffee guy. He did his dodo thing over here once.

You know, he gave me a coffee machine. You know, we know he's the triple crown winner. We know he's still balling in the Super Bowl and he's still bawling at a high level at a high age. But I just want to know about the coffee. How do I get my French press right? Coffee is an underrated part about having success in the league too. Whenever I get a young guy and he's not drinking coffee, I'm like, do it. Do you not like taking legal performance enhancers?

Why the fuck would you not drink coffee? What are you doing, man? I didn't drink coffee until I got in the league. That's right. Then I started chewing. I started drinking coffee. I mean, how do you get through these meetings? That's right.

People don't realize this is like, you have to go to school before you get to just play football. It's like you're in class all day long. Yeah. That's so fucking good. All right. We got to ask about the French press, man. I'm actually curious about this one. Is there anything you would say the Patriots win if they do X?

They get the ball off Sam Darnold. Okay. Patriots win if they can get the ball off Sam Darnold and win that turnover margin. Yeah. I really think if you get it to a nitty-gritty game, you have Milton Williams in the middle, bar more on the other, in the middle. middle together, getting pressure in the middle, the pocket, and getting a takeaway from that explosive offense, and they got to take advantage of it, I think that's their best opportunity

of winning. Because like, I think Seattle, if you look at them, they're a complimentary football team. We've talked about all year, all phases, special teams, offense, defense, you know, but when they've gotten to hairy, nitty gritty games with teams, you know, they've been able to, like beat them with all their units. I don't think they could do that with the Patriots. They're pretty dang good on all three units too. So I think when they get into a hairy game with a team that can nullify them on special teams and not give them an explosion play or maybe hit them with an explosion play with Marcus Jones

at punt return or kickoff. I think those are the types of teams that they struggle with because then it presses on to Darnold to making a play. They got to get more in the drop back. They can't play on schedule with their run game always. So getting the ball off Sam, getting that pressure in the middle of the pocket, I think it'll give them our best chance to win. It makes sense, man. I love it. It makes all the sense in the world.

Interior pressure, if you look at all the Super Bowl teams that have won over the last few years, I mean, you look at dominant detackles and controlling the middle of that freaking line of scrimmage. It disrupts the run game, and then it pressures the quarterback. Everybody wants to talk about edge pressure. There's something about that interior pressure. and Milton Williams and Barmer are freaking balling right now, both of them. Well, especially his pocket passer. You know, you know, Sam, he's athletic. You know, he's, but he likes to do everything behind that center at eight, seven yards,

wherever that spot is for him. Yeah. And he likes to deliver the ball off that play action. They do a great job moving it, but, you know, Sam's seeing, he, he, he don't like that middle pressure if you watch. Whenever he's struggled, it's because of that pressure right in his face because it's hard to dissect that defense. Absolutely.

gets them a little bit off schedule, gets them off target, and then he'll still throw it up there. All right. Let's hit up with this last thing, dude. We got to know you're welcome to the Super Bowl moment. Out of all the Super Bowls you went to, man, what was the one moment that hit you that you could remember that was just like, man, that was, I'm in it, man.

I really think there's two for me. From my first one, we lost against the New York Giants in 2011. And I was still early. that was like still kind of almost pre-phones, still getting into the phone age. Uh-huh. And that first kickoff, when you used to run in these Super Bowls, all you would see is just flashes. Yes.

And that was an R2. And you'd run and I just remember seeing all the flashes on kickoff. Oh, wow. And I remember seeing those flashes. Dude, that's cinematic, dude. That's crazy. Yeah, it's super. I remember that in the National Anthem, you know,

when the National Anthem's going, you see whoever, who's singing it, some, whatever celebrities there, you know, you start to feel the environment of how big this is. I think those two things were like my welcome to the Super Bowl moment.

By a time, you know, we got there in 14 again and, and then 16, you know, then I kind of, I kind of had a feel for it. But that first time,

you know, it's like, holy smokes. Dude, what are you doing here, Batman? Dude, pre-phone and pre-kickoff like change.

like the kickoff when it was the fucking kickoff. You're right? We're rolling. We're fucking charged. Oh, more daddy. I'm going to go bust a wedge. That's right. And the moment you said National Anthem, I started getting goosebumps because that is,

and still, even like when I'm at a regular game, every time I hear the National Anthem, that kind of is like for some reason a very visceral moment for me. And I don't think it's just about the National Anthem. It's something about like that. It's about to happen. Like that's always the trigger in our heads for timing. Yes. And at the Super Bowl, it just is at another level every single time.

That's one of my favorite moments when they're videotaping everybody. And you see guys just like so emotional, like just like cage dogs ready to get out there. And man, put you right back into it for sure. It really does, man. The National Anthem, anytime you watch it, like especially in the big games, you know, you got the jets flying over, got the military there. The fans are going, you know what I mean? Yeah.

And you got, you know, someone's crying. You know, that's, that's, that, because that, like you said, it's right, it's calm before the storm. It's about to, it's about to go down. Yes. And it's been like that since we were kids. Oh, yeah. Right after the national anthem, we're going and we're playing ball. Yes.

Head button, everybody. Fucking fire up, man. I'm fired up for the Super Bowl, baby. I can't wait. Pat's, T-Hawks. We appreciate you hopping on, Jules. You're the man, brother. No problem, guys.

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here to represent the seattle seahawks our guest is a six with two wide receiver from eastern in Washington University. He is a pro-fowler, all-pro NFL triple crown winner and 2021 NFL offensive player of the year. He is a Super Bowl champion and Super Bowl 56 MVP. 92% is please welcome Cooper Cup. That's awesome. Most proud I am is that you rounded up from 6-1 to 6-2.

That was the best part of the whole thing right there. I'm the same way. I'm 6-3. That's all the things. Yeah, let's go. We'll take it. A combine will get you, man. They go down to the eighth of an inch.

It's not fair. I was 6'5 my whole life. And at the combine, I'm 6'4 and 7 8. I'm like, you motherfuckers couldn't give you one more 8th and inch. You learn a lot at the combine, man. You learn a lot, even about yourself. Even about yourself. Like, oh, I had no idea.

I was that short. That's crazy. I'm that slow. I thought I ran a 4-7. I didn't know I was running a... Hey, you're telling me. You're telling me. Yeah.

Yeah, wanted to jump it off, man. Congrats on the year so far, man. NFC champs. You know how to do this thing, though, man. Obviously, you have literally the best run in playoff history at the wide receiver position, man, in terms of the stats and touchdowns and going out there and actually getting the fucking dove in the big game, man.

How does it feel to get back to the Super Bowl? Yeah, it's pretty sweet. You just don't take these things for ground. I mean, we've all been lucky enough to be on parts of teams that get to the show. and make it happen, get the chance to plan the big one. And I've also been a part of you. We've all been part of really good teams where, like, man, the belief is that you're there.

You're going through training camp. You're like, we're going to a Super Bowl. Like, we know the work. Like, we have everything it takes to get there. And you don't. And you fall short. And so to be in this place, to be able to, you know, week and week out, find a way to get wins and get here. It's a special thing.

How has it been with the new team? Obviously, you know, this is not a lot of people from the outside. side saw it coming. I'm sure you guys seeing it from your perspective, had high expectations. What's it? What's the team camaraderie been like all year? You know, how has it been being in Seattle? It's been good. I mean, obviously it was a new experience coming over here with the new team and all that. But I mean, there was a belief early on. Like you said, I mean, it was exactly what Mike McDonald said up there on that stage. We did not care. You know, it was like this whole thing, like all the narratives, all its other stuff. Like, you know, we're just going about.

our business. We're going to handle our stuff. And it was that, it was that from day one, from OTAs on. It's like, man, we're just going to do what we do and get better and better and better. And it wasn't like this, this isn't one of those teams that I would have said day one, but like, oh yeah, we got all the pieces together to go make this thing

happen. It was truly like a build, a slow build of like, hey, this is coming together and jelling and the guys are coming together, the belief in one another, the camaraderie of the just the people, the energy of the locker room is is special.

You could feel the energy in the fucking preseason, Coupe. I remember playing you guys in the preseason, dude. And I was like, I was sitting there on the sideline that second half, watching my guys try and battle. Your guys is kind of like second and third string guys. And I'm sitting there.

I'm just like, this team has the fucking juice. Like these guys love playing the game of football. And they do it together. And it wasn't just the starters. It wasn't just the guys after that. It was all the way through the end of the game, man. And when you see guys loving to play the game together like that, man,

having that energy, having that excitement is the start of it. And then from there, you obviously have great coaches, great leaders. You got to talk to us about a guy named Sam Darnold. How fun has it been fucking seeing that guy grow into the Super Bowl quarterback that he is today? Ginger Cuzz. Ginger Cuzz. I was waiting for it. He's been the man.

I mean, honestly, Correction general, they are on the highest pedestal of like, you do not have a whole lot of time to prove yourself before you get counted out. And for Sam Donald to do what he did, going through this time with the Jets, with Carolina,

all the scarring that happens, that's like, man, everything gets put on you that's saying, you aren't this anymore. Like, you're not that guy. For him to push through all those things,

to go to San Francisco, to learn his stuff there, to be able to, like, take in all this the Shanahan, like, man, this is, I can do this system.

I believe in this, how this is done, how this quarterback, how quarterbacks are asked to play this game to go and do it for KOC in Minnesota and then to come over here and just ball out like this. I mean, it's just incredible.

It's not talked about enough how special and how difficult that is for quarterbacks to do. It is not an easy thing. And he's kind of, you know, he's gone against, you know, common belief about quarterbacks and how it works.

You know, So it's special. I could not agree more, man. And like, listen, I keep getting asked who you're rooting for in the game. And like I don't really have a horse in the race. Like, I like storylines on both sides. But it's hard to not want this to happen for Sam. It really is.

Because I think anybody that's been in the league and struggled through it yourself and had to persevere through ups and downs. Like, it is very difficult, especially once that narrative throughout the league has already been set. It's hard to get that next opportunity. Exactly. And for him to be able to do this. multiple times have to reaffirm himself and to have the year he's had on a special team right now. Like, it's hard not to root for the ginger cuss, man.

What's the better nickname? Ginger Cuzz or buddy? Oh, come on now. Maybe he feels a different way about it, but don't call me, buddy. Don't call me buddy. Don't call you, buddy. I got a little ginger in the beer. If they were calling me Ginger Cuzz, I'm like, I'll take Ginger Cuzz.

Don't call me, buddy. Call me Ginger Cubs. I'm checking out. I'm at a gas station getting something. You call me Ginger Cuzz. That's fine. I'm good. Don't call me, buddy.

Don't call me, buddy. I'm pretty sure we had our guy Matt Stafford on here talking about how you're attending early QB meetings. You still, you still in the QB room? I'm still in the QB room. They can't get me out of there, man. It's my room now. I love it, man. Let me ask you this, and I think I know the answer, but just for like people watching,

why do you attend the QB meetings? What does a receiver get out and go into the QB meetings? Yeah, well, I mean, for me, it's a QB perspective. I want to hear, one, I want to be in the, I want to be watching the film with the quarterback when he's taking his notes, when he's kind of diagnosing, okay, these are things that I'm seeing. These are the things that even, like, give me concern, you know, that maybe the coach, it's not from the coach's, it's from the quarterback's perspective.

This is concerning to me and maybe he's like, has a thought about how he wants, how he would want to attack or how he, what his answer is he want, what answer he wants that to be. You know, I get to be in there and I get to be at the genesis of it all. But then the other part of it is to be in the meetings themselves because now, like, in the receiver room, they're not going to touch on the progression of a quarterback. You know what I mean? Like they're not saying, hey, this is one high, two eye this way.

It's like, no, we're running a bench route. You know what I mean? And so I want to know on the back side, if I'm running a china route on the back side, well, how much time do I have? Am I first in the progression? And my fourth in the progression? That really changes how I'm going to run my route. And when I can be ready, when the quarterback expects me to be ready for the ball.

You know what I mean? I love this. Did you ever play a little quarterback? So my dad was a quarterback. So my dad was a quarterback in the NFL for a couple of years. He backed up. He was third string to Troy Aikman. And then Jason Garrett actually beat out my dad.

for the third spot with the Cowboys. So my dad, so I learned receiver from my dad, a quarterback. Yeah. So like when I run a route, I wasn't getting told what to do as a receiver. I was getting told, no,

you can't do that because the quarterback's not going to like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. So he was on me early. He was on me early about like sticking my foot in the ground. Like, no, you have to like, you have to indicate. Your indicator is not good enough. Your sign language, man.

You know it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Indicator. We're talking in code to this fucking fat boy, yeah. I don't know shit about an indicator.

What's this? I got to use my body to communicate to the quarterback. I want to like, he's going to see me 20 yards away. And when I make a move or do something, I'm going to do something that's indicating I'm breaking down and I'm going to be in the spot that you're expecting me to go, right? Because he's going to be letting the ball go when my back's to him. So he needs to know, like, man, hey, it's happening now.

You know, I need to be able to put my foot in the ground when I'm breaking in or out and how I'm rolling. I can't just like, you can't just ooze into like a deep out route. You got to like put your foot in the ground. Like, I'm going now. You know what I mean? So he knows that's my moment.

Coup, I think, and that's so good. That was a great way to describe me. I think what you do that's different from others is that you're giving those indicators to the quarterback, but you never give those indicators to the defense. And that's so hard because the defense is watching those indicators.

And I do a whole lot of bullshit to make up for my speed. Like I'm doing skin. and things with my shoulders and things, you know, I'm doing all this shit just to get this much separation where you actually have the speed and you have the shoulder lean and you give none of those indicators as well as like when you want to really get open on a double move and things like that. But you're giving the defense no indicators that you're going to be going one way or the other.

And that keeps the timing of these routes so true. And it's why you always been mirrored up with your quarterback so well, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, try to do it. Try to do it as, you know, I, I'm, like, I ran a four, six, right? So, like, I got to do the hop and skip and the, I got to do the little jack. Now, I got to do a little bit of this to me, you know what I mean? You got it all.

You got it all in the bag. But a lot of those deeper routes, you don't have all that, you don't have all that ability to really get into that kind of stuff. So that's what I was scared. You don't have the time. Exactly. Exactly. I get it. Well, I was just going to ask, like, listen, you were in the Rams for a very long time with one head coach.

What's it been like having a new head coach? coach and Mike McDonald, right? Like, has it been different being offense versus defense? Like, how has that been for you? Offensively, if you don't have a great day, it's okay because the coach is going to be so pumped at how good a practice went. You know how it goes? It's like, it's like, oh, hey, the defense had a great day today.

It doesn't matter what the offense did. Hey, bring up, boys, this is a great day. where before it didn't matter like it didn't matter how what the energy was in practice if the offense wasn't on it it was a terrible day getting crushed yeah getting absolutely crushed

so that's nice being on the other end of that side of things but honestly those two guys like Sean and Mike both on two separate ends with terms of the offense and the defense but they are they are doing it at the highest level of those two sides and so it's cool to see it

And I like to sit in there with Mike and I used to sit in with Sean and be able to talk through stuff and be able to talk like, you know, the 500, 600 level football stuff. And now I'd sit in there. And I used to like I could like, you know, talk with. I'm like, yeah, I can live at this place and like communicate. And then you start talking to Mike. You know, oh, I don't know what I'm talking about. Like this is this defense. Like defense is a whole other world that, you know, maybe you don't, you think that you understand what you're doing offensive when you're attacking stuff.

but there's a whole other world out there that you don't understand and the depth of it. And I'm reminded of that over and over again. As I play in this game, the depth of detail that there is in the NFL is, it's an ocean. It just keeps going, man. And it's different the way it is in different systems. Like cover three is just like such a generic term for a way that everybody thinks about

what that is, right? And how it's taught versus like different formations and clusters and what teams do specifically in their progressions and how it changes week to week. No doubt. You obviously played with Matthew Stamber for a long time. Now with Sam Darnold. What are the difference between those two guys in particular? You know, one's got red hair.

One's got gray hair. It is great, though, being like Matthew Singh when he comes in, it's like, oh, I've seen that any look. Oh, I saw that, you know, 2012 week four. Like, they brought that same pressure. It's like, okay, this is, you're ridiculous, dude. Yeah, that's crazy. You can't, you can't, you can't compete with the experience that he has because it's not just the experience.

It's not just time. It's like, it's memory. It's like he has all that stored in this database. He's like an, he's like an AI center. And it's like, he's built into his brain. And he's just like, he's just like calling these things. Like, dude, knowing, I can't keep up with you. You're, you're just rolling.

And, you know, for Sam, Sam is so processed. It's like, man, he's seen a lot. He's been in a lot of different situations. And he carries that stuff with him well. But a lot of it is his process and is preparing through the week. It's like, man, it is just, he's so on, hey, I'm in here until 7 o'clock. At 7 o'clock, you know, I'm moving on to my next thing and I'm on it. He's just, boom, like a robot on his stuff.

So, you know, when he gets there, when he gets to the game on Sunday, it's like, man, he's just gone through. So he's so prepared for that moment to step out there and play. Or he's almost over. It's like, you don't have to put. Relax a little bit. Every morning. You know what I mean? Like, you can do other day.

Man just wants to be ready for it, man. Hell yeah. I love it, man. Well, I'm sure it was, it was pretty weird lining up to get your former teammate, or yeah, former teammates and former team.

But you were in quote saying it was cool that we had to go through the Rams. The script writers did a good job with that one. I'm glad you're a believer in the script writers as well. They were, they were definitely writing the script for me and Jason to go to the Super Bowl when we started this, uh,

do a high podcast. Yeah, you remember the meetings. Yeah. It's good. Exactly. That was crazy, wasn't it? I mean, like I said, I've talked to on this before, but there's so many guys in the, like, playing that game. You don't want, no one wants to make it about themselves and what like, oh, it's my story.

You know, but like, in my world, that was a crazy story for it to play out how it was wild. That was wild. Were you in those defensive meetings, letting them know. about all the McVeigh's tricks up to his sleeve. And I've always wondered when a guy goes to the other team. No, it is. It's hard. I mean,

you can't like, yeah, I know a lot of the stuff that they do. I don't know if it's changed, you know, but I can like sit there and be like, okay, yeah,

this looks like, I know that signal. I know like what this, maybe some of these like, you know, hurry up offense, what they're doing. But how do you,

as a coach, how do you tell the defense, like, oh, hey, don't listen to what my call is. I need you to listen to what they're doing. and then you know what I mean and they know you're

and McVeigh news you were over there and like that could be a possibility so they're changing signals and all of a sudden you know you can get caught in a tough position I just had to ask this. Exactly. Yeah no it just doesn't it just

I just don't know that it really works you know it's a little I think there's little things little pieces like hey this little indicator maybe of something that's like it's a broad thing like hey this might indicate you know these kinds of plays

are coming versus being like Oh, this is the exact play that's coming. To put that in the back of somebody's mind with everything else that you've got to deal with on the football field, I feel like it's almost like a crutch to be able to like have somebody thinking that much about all of it. So I'm right there with you. How is the Coop chant been with the 12th man instead of the Rams fans this year?

Is it feel weird or is it, how do you feel about it? It's been pretty solid. I'll tell you what. Lumen's crazy. like playing in a little bit, it gets rowdy. I've been on the other side of it. It's really similar, though, because it used to be like,

I used to run onto the fields, you know, for part early on, and you get the booze. Now I run on. I just get the coops. It doesn't feel that difference. I've kind of been here. I've kind of been here before.

That's great. You got another unbelievable wide receiver in the wide receiver room with you in Seattle right now. JSN is absolutely taking this league by storm. I think he's right now in terms of every single route he's running pound for pound, one of the best fucking wide receivers I've ever seen play this damn game, man. He's so fun to watch and he has that ability to just do it with ease. Similar to how, so similar to how you are.

He doesn't give a lot of indicators on the deeper routes and he's always on time. And then his big play ability is through the fucking roof. Yeah. Did you coach him up at all? Did you give him experience? Like, how was it when you got in the wide receiver room over there? Yeah, it was good. You know, I basically have built Jackson myself.

I do. It's good. I do it. No, he was so, I mean, he was so good. When I got here, like, watching him go through OTAs, like, dude, it's like, dude special, you know? And I don't think, like, you never know. going into a season, you know, statistically, what the production is going to be like, what are we going to be like as an offense?

You know, that dictates a lot of it as well. But he's just over and over again made the plays. Like when the opportunity is, we don't throw the ball, like, we're not super high up on the list in terms of how often we're throwing the ball. But when we do, and when the opportunity comes his way, he's making the play. You know what I mean? And I think to do that, you've got to be consistently getting open. Like, consistently open.

You see, you don't know when that time's going to be when the ball is coming your way. And so he's just been special in that way. And like you said, note indicators, like he's so smooth. He plays at one level the entire time. You know, he can run a, he can run a, you know, a 15-yard outbreaking speed cut route and never change. It's like the same level the entire time. He just kind of course turns, course turns to the sideline

and plays negative coming out of his, out of his breaks. And it's pretty, yeah, it's really special seeing him do his thing. Dude, it's so smooth. Like the effortlessness of it and like, yeah, it's fun to watch him just run. He's similar to that. I mean, you played with a, with a Devante Smith. Devante's, I was about to say they're very similar in the way they move. Super smooth runner.

But, you know, Jack's is built a little more like a bandangier, like a running back when you see him. A little bit stock you got some girth to him. You got a little more, yeah, you got a little more girthiness to him. He seems like a great dude, man. And I love the combo you guys had. But I got to ask you about my guy, AJ Barner in the tight end room, man. Northeast Ohio ball player, baby.

North East Ohio ball player. I got a chance to say what's up to him at tight end you, man. And outside of like the on-field stuff and him really like being a big part of this offense in the run game and past game, man, his energy, his swagger as a young cat in the league, man. I fucking love it, man. I'm so happy for that, dude.

But you got to tell me, You got any good AJ stories? I got some great AJ stories. I don't know that I just got... The problem is choosing one that he wouldn't be upset about me sharing. There you go. There you go. Well, what was your first impression?

When your first impression coming in, I'm sure you knew him to an extent because he was playing in Seattle. But my first impression of him, I was like, wow, this is like a young Tyler Higbee. Dude, Higgs is another guy. Dude, fucking love Higgs, man. Higgs is one of my all-time favorite human beings, teammates. he's the man. He's the man. I sit next to him in the huddle for eight years,

like one of my favorite dudes. And I'm like, this is, this dude runs, routes, he blocks, he does all the stuff, right?

He's all the stuff. As you get to know more, like, he's got a very unique energy about him. And how, I mean, he's like, he's a dude that's like,

he's a dude that's like barking in the team meetings, you know, he's got like, he's got something to say every time. Some of the same. And, you know, 90% of the time,

time, it's awesome. 10% of the time, you just kind of let it kind of just, you know, go over your head. It's like, okay. Yeah. You don't feel. Oh, Barnyard. That's a banger right there, man. I can't wait to see him in the Super Bowl, man.

I know he's going to be turned. We had Julian Edelman on already, all right? He had one question for you. Okay. He's having some problems with this French press. He doesn't know the right ratio. This guy is. What do we got for?

What do we got for? He's hopeless. He's a try it. I try it. I've already tried with him. I can't. I've already tried with him. I walked him through it.

The first time he showed me, he was making coffee. He's day near, I mean, he's dang near drinking his coffee with just grounds all. I mean, he's just like, he's chewing his coffee,

basically. He's got that Turkish coffee. That's got the grounds in it, right? Yeah, yeah, he's, exactly.

He's drinking his coffee with a spoon. Listen, he's got, you have to measure things. You can't just, like, throw it together, the rights of ratios, you have a feel, you got to have a little bit of detail.

And for Julian Edelman, for Julian Edelman, one of the most detailed receivers to just, like, throw things together. Oh, it broke my heart. You wanted to see the attention to detail. He turned that shit off, man. Yeah, yeah, slow yourself down, Julian. Slow yourself down. Make yourself a nice cup of Joe.

Make it a nice little process. It'll be good. Well, time out. Hold on. I want to get the inside scoop, though, for myself. What is the ratio? What is what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, the plunger won't go all the way to the bottom, right? So the plunger will leave, well, like, have you made French press before? Yes, I have. Okay. So the French press won't plunge all

to the bottom. So if you want to start, see where that spot is and just fill the grounds up to right where that is. Right where that's, right? Most of them, most of them will be pretty, that'll be pretty accurate. So you will start there. And then you go there and you fill up the whole fill up your whole thing and you can press it. You know, wait six, wait six minutes or so. Make sure your grind's good. You want a nice coarse grind with French press. Don't want to be a super, you know what I mean?

If you get too, you're fine, you're going to have the, if you're going to over extract, you're going to have the, you're going to have the grounds all coming up through that plunger. You don't want to do that. You don't want to make sense. Well, hold on. Let's talk some more about this. What is French press the best method of brewing? Well, what beans do you have, right?

Because there's actual people don't notice. There's certain coffee beans that are made for espresso. There's certain ones for drip. There's certain beans with their oil contents of things that like... Where are you getting your French press beans from? By French press beans, I honestly don't. I'm getting from Dodo is where I'm getting from French. There we go.

You know it. I know if we were down in Guatemala, you know, yeah. I don't know. The Guatemala, Guatemala is a good one. I got some good ones from Guatemala. It would do a good French press. I've done French press. I've tried to get a mocha master.

I've got an arrow press. grinders. I've tried the beans. I don't, I've not mastered the beans. I'm not jacking the beanstalk yet. Are you going to be in Santa Clara this week? Oh yeah. We're up there, baby. Come by. Perfect. Can I show you the grinder I got? This will show you how, this will show you how novice I am. I'm going to show you the grinder I bought it. You're about to get this dude. You're going to see the attention to detail of a, of a Pro Bowl center. Yeah. This dude is this dude is there. He was the one that broke out the direction. as a kid for the Legos instead of just putting him together. Yeah, I hope that he just brings a hammer.

He's so, he's been waiting to ask you this forever. Yeah, this is great. I hope he just brings a hammer. And it's like, I used to use this. I just hit the beans until he looked good. And I just dumped them to this coffee grinder. I wanted to be on record. I fucking hate this goddamn. It doesn't feel half.

Kylie from the stairs. I need, this is great. That's how you know it's about to be a fucking fucking. hammer. I'm ready to save the day. I need, listen, you guys, you guys send me, send me his address. I'm going to send him a whole setup. It'll be, it'll be so easy. Oh, dude, we're going to send you two addresses because I need this too.

Yeah. You let me know, send me the address. I'm going to send you, it's going to do everything for you. You're going to have, you're going to be able to measure out what you need. It's going to grind them, how you're supposed to have them. It's going to do it all right. Because this is, people come over to our house all the time. And they're like, oh, this is so good.

This is great. Like, so much better. than I make it my house. It's like, yeah, because you're making it like those, like a home man. What you take this out of the wall? What the, what the fuck is that? That looks like an old Dell computer, dude. What the fuck is that?

I bought an industrial coffee grinder on accident. I thought I was getting a home one. This is crazy. That looks like something. Goodness, gracious. If it's, it's a gun save. That thing. He's crazy.

Dude, that's hilarious. That's the biggest coffee grinder I've ever seen in my life. When that thing showed up, Kylie, was like, what in the fuck are you doing? The entire house is shakes in the morning. I'm making coffee for the entire block. That's right. I was telling Trav, let me, you got, you guys, tell me where to send it. I'm going to send you a whole setup.

It's a whole coffee setup. It's going to look nice. Your wife's going to love. It's going to step on the county. You're like, oh, this is like, this is good. This looks good. Perfect. He's going to make a coffee.

I got you set up. Have you always been to coffee guy? When did you start getting in the coffee? Coffee's really, it's a performance enhancer in the league. Like, if you don't drink coffee, you're doing yourself a disservice. You're not trying if you're not drinking some coffee. You don't come in here. If I don't see you walked around with a cup of coffee, I'm like, I'm questioning your commitment to what we're doing.

Exactly. When did you start it up, though? Secretly, my mom would buy me coffee, like early middle, middle school. My dad hated. No way. My dad. Wow. Dude, he's been in the game for a minute.

I've been in the game. I've been in the game for a while. Are you a sweetener or are you like the taste of the beans? You don't want to mess with the beans. Blackety black, black. Nice. You got to get the taste. You got to get the taste.

And go. Where are you guys? Are you? I mean, I'm black all the way. I was about to say I'm black. And for some reason, I don't, I don't really like espresso as much as I like actual coffee coffee.

I will do espresso. like I'm I don't discriminate especially after like a nice dinner yeah all in on the espresso uh espresso martini hey now no yeah yeah but there's something about like a a coffee that I just really enjoy yeah the taste it's a drip coffee it's a nice drip coffee yes yes dude I'm right there with you I'm I'm straight up I like the coffee straight and then I like uh I'll go back we we have like five we have like six flavors from a Kansas City roasting company that I'll go and get, I'll switch it up by the week.

I'll go and get like a dark like roast. And then I'll go back and get like a nice hazelnut. And it'll be like the taste of the beans will make it feel like I have like a sweetener in there or something. But he like kind of changes the notes. The beans themselves have flavor. Oh yeah. You know it. You know it, man.

The different, the way they roast. Oh, it's the fucking best, man. Very interesting. We got one last question for you. All right. Do you have a welcome to the Super Bowl moment? You're saying like, well, I can't believe that I'm playing the Super Bowl or like the one where you get hit really hard and you're like, oh, this is a Super Bowl. Either one do you want to go with, yeah.

Man, I don't know. I mean, because my first Super Bowl, I was on the sidelines. You know, I had a torn ACL in 2018 against when Julian Edelman, one Super Bowl MVP. And so. And so I think maybe my, this would be my welcome to Super Bowl moment, standing on the sidelines and feeling the chaos on our sidelines when Bill Belichick decided we're going 6-1 the entire game, completely change your game plan,

show something you've never done before, and just show up on the Super Bowl saying this is what we're going to do and we're going to do it every single snap. That was like, oh, this is a Super Bowl. Like, this is, the guys that can make, the guy that can sit there and make that decision, you know what I mean? It's insane to even think about. Belichick has been in the news a lot recently with other thing. And regardless of any of that stuff, that was one of the most masterful, well done coaching jobs, to be honest with you.

And it wasn't just 6-1. He would also, he was like waiting for the headset to turn off so that Sean could check the play in, right? And then when it got checked, he would move it to something else. That game was wild to watch. It was crazy. He was doing it. You've seen like the mic up where he was like, hey, where is he? Where is he?

He's watching Sean. It's like, hey, we're going to show one thing. Mike clicks off at 15 seconds on the play clock. And it's like, boom, okay, now we're getting into what we're doing. Because we were so much at the line of scrimmage that year. Sean really calling things all up until the ball snap, essentially. Yeah. You know, that was insane.

But, I mean, for Bill to come out and we got, for his plan being, I'm just going to watch Sean and we're going to wait until he calls it. and I'm going to change it. And we're just going to do this thing. Like, we're putting six guys up on the ball. We're going to knock out the mid-zone run game. Third down, they still did the Bill Belichick. You know, they had their Stefan Ilmore on Brian Cook.

They doubled Robert Woods. Like, they still did the same thing that they always do. But that was a baller move by old William Billichick. William Billichick. Slick Willie. I lied. I got one more question. what do you think what does Seattle need to do to win this game brother what are the keys to

victory for you guys you think we've said this over and over again and it's it's it's cliche it's cliche you know what are you say don't turn the ball over yeah I do think it comes down to us it's like a be us be the people that we've been all the way through the same it's been our process and it's been like it's kind of a joke now I guess but you know Mike gets up there and you for a team meeting and you want to say have some words for us and you want to be like, man, bring some like juice or something. It's like, no, no, no, no, we're going to go out there and be us. Like, that's our thing.

That is what we do. We go out there and we run through people's faces. We're going to run the ball. We're going to pass the ball. Our defense is going to run and hit. This is what we do and it's why we are in this position right now. And so we're not going to change that. We're going to go out there and do the things that we've done to give us to this place.

And that's all you can do anyways. So we talk about all we want. They are who we thought they were. Coop, man, you're the fucking man. I can't wait to catch you out there and talk some French press dog, but wishing you the best man and go out there and get you another one, brother. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

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True. ... man he was awesome dude he's the best i can't wait to learn about coffee i'm kind i feel a little bit more confident than you may but at the same time a french press is a different world yeah let's wrap up this episode some stamps of the week how about that traff hey nah stamp of the week is brought to you by adobe acrobat oh man who doesn't like a nice organized app for everything you need documented all right who we got here stamp of the week stamp of the week stamp of the week what is this punch Somebody punched their hair off.

You didn't check out this clip? Watch this one. This guy was wearing the toupee. Uppercut, so vicious and knocks his hair off. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. What do you ask for?

How did he, did he ask for that? You just go into the barbershop and ask them if they got any toupees? I don't know where you get the toupee from or how it's adhered down or if the barbershop. I don't know a lot of those details. Oh, the second picture is. crazy. I think he won the fight though. Did he win? Yeah, I think they

later threw it into the crowd and I think he won the fight. I mean, he was a good sport about it. He definitely was not too nervous or shy about it. He was living it up after that kind of dancing around. Could you imagine catching that? Dude, no, I can't imagine getting a dupey either, but

that shit's fucking hilarious. Make a nice coaster. Cozy? Yeah. Got some great nominees here. We have Philadelphia Phantoms. Kai and I went to the unrivaled game in Philadelphia. And quick shout out to these guys.

They broke a record for the most regular season pro-woman's basketball game attendance of all time. It was 21,000, 4s and 9-50s. It was packed, packed to the rafters. This unrivaled thing is awesome. They do a great job. The production quality was fantastic. A lot of people were geared up for women's basketball.

It was a really cool event. What else did we got? Rochester Nighthawks goalie, Rylan Hartley, for stamping Vancouver Warriors defensive Steph Charbonnet. Charbonneau? Charbonneau? Sharbonneau.

Let's take a look at this. Oh, indoor lacrosse. Too, I just think it's funny how big the goalies are in indoor lacrosse. They just got all this panfought. Go! Oh, no.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, that's a defenseless receiver right there. That's what I like to see. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Then the brawl afterwards. You, I want, come here.

I don't know what that guy's mad about. There's a fucking few brawls going on right here. I don't get why they're mad at the goalie. He sounds a great clean hit. That's all I saw. Are you allowed to do that in lacrosse? I mean, you're allowed to do it on the cross. Yeah, you can do some lacrosse.

Oh, he doesn't even hit him in the head. Dude, he didn't even hit him in that. He had some right in the chest. Right in the chest. It's right in the chest. That is clean. I don't care what anybody says. Right over in the chin.

I love it. I'm here for it. dude, I'm here for it. You can't throw, you can't throw over the middle late. Dude, that's hilarious, man. Electric. I'm about to go to some indoor lacrosse. If that's what they got going on an indoor lacrosse, fuck yeah.

Also got Iowa lineman Jennings Dunker for bringing the mullet back to the senior bowl. Did you see this freaking beauty? Check out this beauty. Somebody's going to get a fucking stud. I don't know if he's any good of playing football, man, but this, dude. Let me just look at it. The hair, the mustache, the knee brace. He does look like a client's nail.

It's unbelievable. He's a majestic man right there. If you were going to design an offensive alignment in a laboratory, this is what he would look like. I mean, look at this guy. This is hilarious. How many beers a day do you think this guy drinks? I don't know. He's probably by the case.

He doesn't even count it by the beer. This gives me an idea, though. I don't think they should. You know how they do best in show for, like, dogs where they, like, trot them out? They do it for only horses, too? Oh shit. Are you all right, Tram? We're good.

You could? Fuck. Fuck. Taylor's going to kill me. The best in show got me. Best in show for the dogs. Like, they, I think, how. Best in show for the offensive line.

Yeah. There's not a bunch of law in Trit and stuff out. The quarterback's walking them on a leash. and they put them up on the table. You got a guy measuring their ass and their belly. We can't be putting you guys on leashes, but I hear you. No leashes, but you get them up on the stage.

You got a guy measuring there. They get in their stance and they like to see if their ass is in the right. I don't know, man. Just the prance. All I need is the prance. Just prance around. I want to see. I want to see how this guy prances.

He's a prancer. It's like the, what's the, at the county fair? They got like the, what is that called when you got like the best pig? The biggest pig at the show. Prize pig right there, won the whole county fair.

What are those called? You know what I mean? I don't know. I get some help here. Somebody helped Jason. You're going like a stock show is what you want to do? Yeah, but like the prize pig. What I was just?

I don't know if this bit's going to end well for us. Did you guys know that he was also a Iowa meat day hay bale champion toss winner? This is all, I mean, between the name. Did we know? No, but it does. Does it say it? Look at him. Look at him.

Look at that guy. This should be at the combine. Dude, I'm telling you, we just need to create our own version of this. Offensive lineman. The new offense offensive line combine? Yes. No, it's not a combine. You're misjudging this.

This is not a combine. Okay, what is it? What is it? It's just an offensive line beauty page. But it's not, it's called something different. I don't know. This guy cut the arms and legs off his shirts and shorts and just said, fuck it. I'm going to go throw the fuck out of this hay.

I've never seen offensive linemen like exude out of somebody's skin as much as I'm seeing you're in the fucking manning Jennings Dunker are you fucking kidding me we're moving that kid's draft stock way up just on this episode alone I mean it's just like it's like a character in a movie like this isn't a but it's real life this is got the shoulder strap on to hold his AC joint in place I mean what the fuck are we looking I really like this idea of an offensive lineman like just like being essentially a beauty contest of offensive offensive line yeah I don't need to know how fast this guy runs. I want to see how smooth he runs. Just do a lap. Just do a lap.

I want to see how smooth he walks in prances. That's what I want to see. What's the elegance of this guy? Shout out to Dunker. Bald guys. How about this nominee? Since Robert Salas, joined the tightens. He has made five additional coaching hires. That one caveat is that you must be bald. Look at this thing. He's got nothing but bald guys. I mean, I've seen, I've seen all the hair go. in Kansas City's office. I mean, dude, guys are, yeah, guys are dropping like flies. It's a stressful job.

Stressful job. I think it's stressful. It's just long hours, man. Long hours means you're not getting much sleep, which means, you know, and also, this could be by choice. Guys could just be like, you know what? I don't want to fucking deal with this goddamn hair.

I'll tell you what, I'd hate to be in the stands on a sunny day between all the helmets and bald heads. That light is going to be reflecting. You're going to be blinding. Fuck. Jesus Christ. Oh, damn, when you put Vaseline baby while on this shit? Jesus.

All right. I'm giving the nom. I'm giving my stamp of the week to Dunker. Just because I don't even, I mean, how do you not give it to just such a beauty? Yeah. I'll give it, I'll give it to my guy that fucking lost his two-paid. Gerald, Gerald Miller and still won the fight, baby. That boy, Gerald.

How about? How do we know he won the fight? I feel you're just randomly saying that. There's been nothing to do. He did win. He did win. He did win. Confirmed.

And, uh, before we get. Out of stamp of the week. We have an honorable stamp of the week to give out. Ooh. We talked about this a little bit earlier. Jason, wanted to do the honors? We love the kids here at New Heights.

That's right. We're always thinking about how we can take this show to New Heights. We decided to bring on somebody who had one of the greatest viral moments of all time after the Eagles were eliminated this year in the playoffs. 92% please welcome. Sam Salvo. Let's take a look at this clip for those of you that aren't aware this kid has a future in the making. I mean, he's going to be on ESPN one day.

He's got his own show. Who even thinks of this stuff? Yes, this was a huge letdown. This was my Christmas present, and I got a loss. Oh, no. Yeah, probably. I'm feeling two of two things. A., I want A.J. Brown packing his bags, and I want him somewhere else that is not here.

I love you, AJ, but, like, you can't make those drops in that game. And I also want Kevin Petitual flipping burgers at, like, the local McDonald's or something. I don't care. Why do you say that? Whenever he's an offensive coordinator, it's like he's flipping burgers. One side he's cooking. One half he's cooking. And the other half is completely raw.

Dude, I just, amazing comments from a child. Do kids in Philadelphia just come out sounding like GMs? Do they just, they mean it? It's how they're born. It's how they're born. It's just in, it's something in like the water when they grow, when they, they're born. That as soon as they hit age like eight, they know how to talk like adults. Pack your bags is something they find out when they're like three years old.

Like, that's what you just tell Eagles players when they don't play their best. Yeah, mom's been listening to WIP sports take. The child been in the womb the whole time. He's just catching the radio waves. So they just come out with hot takes and shitting on people. Yeah, no, it's ingrained in Philadelphia, for sure. It can't reminds me of a gentleman named Patrick Bacon. Oh, dude.

That is, he's remarkably like maturely, grown up in the way he's talking, which is what makes the whole thing. It's so funny. I want AJ Brown packing his bags. I want two things. Let me tell you how I feel about the birds right now, two things. I'm just like, what? I got a feeling this kid's dad has been regurgiting a lot of things.

He's been hearing frustrations from his dad on the drive into school every morning for the last six months. This fucking guy. Well, you're in luck 92% because we got Sam coming on the show. That's right. Sam Savo, that is who the child is in that video. And we're going to get his take on the new Eagles Officer Coordinator, hire Sean Mannion.

We felt like, let's see what his opinion is on this. Yeah, let's see how he's see if he's flipping burgers too. Sam, welcome to the show. Hey, what's up? Flipping patties like the Eagles are flipping offensive coordinators, man. He's got this bachelor for a microphone. All right. He's not holding back.

Sam, I got to know. What were your impressions of your viral moments? moment of your video. What did you think? What did everybody tell you at school? Kids of school went crazy. Like, because I don't even know. Like, they just came up for no fucking reason. I don't even know, man.

Oh, my gosh. All right. I got to know. Obviously, you weren't a big fan of Kevin Petulow. What do you think of the Sean Mannion hire? I hope that he can work with Jalen better than Petulow did because I think that, I think that if he could work. work with Jordan Love and make him a top tier passer in the NFL.

I think that maybe he could work with Jalen better than Petulow. Oh my gosh. I love this. And he's done his research, man. It's all right. What are we thinking about AJ? Are we still out on AJ? I mean, uh,

you were pretty upset after the game. Yeah, I was very upset. But sometimes a couple weeks, what are we thinking about AJ Brown for next year? I'm not still 100% sure. I think that we could definitely build an offense around Schmitty. But I think that having someone that we can like sometimes rely on.

on in some big situations to just throw to. I think that we should still have him on the team. I love that. He's a good player. Don't, don't, I know he had a rough go. I know he's had some frustrations. Hopefully that can be fixed with some new plays and offense. By the way, what do you want the Eagles to run this year? What formations and schemes?

Oh, good. You want strong men and bring in. I want them to run. I want them to run it more to their strong side of their offensive line. Because like, really, it was this year. It was more like up the middle runs. And really with Kell and Moore, we didn't see that as much. And that's when Sequin had one of the best years of all time,

if not the best rushing year of all time. So honestly, I think that I would like if we could run more outside plays. And I think that if we could get Jalen a little bit more, like, seeing the defense better and, like, recognizing sometimes. Because, like, on the last play of the game, it seemed like everyone was going to blitz. I was there. And it seemed like everyone's going to come in, like, a house called blitz. I mean, if it was a house called Blitz,

the Goddard play would have worked, but they backed up into Zon, and they batted it down. Man, you're out here watching Phil, dude. I love the commitment to the spatula. You're still talking and doing it like it's a microphone. Have you ever actually flipped the burger? Actually, I did last night, actually.

You can go. There we go, baby. He's cooking. He's cooking. You get that thing nice and cooked. It was well done. Was it medium? Was it was one side raw?

Oh, medium. Medium. A nice medium burger. Keep it juicy and cooked, baby. I like it. I like it, man. Well, I think it goes without saying if football doesn't work out, you got a future in commentating, man. You are natural at this.

Yeah. You got an analyst work done really well. Outside zone, the Eagles are going to run a lot more outside zone. Yeah, that's what Sean Mannion and the McVeigh system is rooted in. Right? Outside zone, boo. They'll still go down in the middle, but yeah, you're on top of it. I love it.

Well, educated, good takes. with some flavor to it. I love it, man. That's typical Philadelphia. Do you listen to WIP? Sometimes. Like when I'm in my grandpa's car. I knew it.

There I know it. There it goes. There it goes. I love it. He's a natural. He's a natural. WIP, man. Get them a segment this year, man.

Once a week. See it and see how the new OC's doing. Who's your favorite player on the birds right now? Who do you like? That's a tough question because I really like Cooper de Jean. Coop. Yep. Coop's got the juice.

I probably got a. go with Jalen Carter. J.C. baby. That's a bad man in the middle of that defense. That's a big old sum buck right there, man. You ever seen him in person, dude? Nah. You don't want to.

Yeah. You walk up on the guy that fucking big. Oh, yeah, dude. He'd be like twice my size. How much of what you were saying after the game is stuff that your dad's been yelling at you furiously for the past six months? Absolutely nothing, actually. None of it?

I came up with pretty much every single word, except, except the part that I want, AJ Brown packing his bags, because I wasn't sure 100% about that, but I'm 100%. I still want Petulo flipping burgers. No questions asked.

He's sticking to it. He's sticking to it. I love it. Appreciate you, Sam, dog. Thank you for the, thank you for the bit that you had on the Philly News, and also, man, thank you for jumping on, dog. We'll have to circle back and see.

We've got to get you back. Yeah, we're going to need repetitive updates. How do you feel about that, Sam? That'd be amazing. You guys are like my idols. Who's going to win the Super Bowl? Patriots all the way. Patriots all the way.

All the way. I think that even though Drake May hasn't, like, played his best ball during the playoffs, I think that he's going to come up huge in this game. Okay. That's a hot take right there, Sam. I like his hot takes. He's very direct.

He's very direct. The man knows what he wants. Sam, before we get out of here, you want to give anybody a shout out, anybody in school, any of the homies? Yeah, yeah. First thing, can I shout out all my friends at Table C at Wicke and? Table C! And can I also shout out my friend Derek Sanders? Derek Sanders, baby.

Shout out to D.C. D.S. D.S. There you go. Yeah, my bad. What do you shout out, Derek Sanders? Is he just your friend? Yeah, he's my friend. And also, one more thing to say, we got merch now, so buy some merch. There we go.

He's a natural. Get the plug in. He's a natural. Damn. Well done, brother. You killed it. We'll have to follow up and catch it next year and see how the birds are doing, man. Oh, absolutely, man.

All right, dog. Enjoy it. You're the man, brother. Before you go, is Paul there? My dad, yeah. Hey, dad. One sec. Sorry, my dad's.

He's a little bit slow. He's slow? All right. Here you go. What's up, boys? What's up, Paul? What's going on, big guy? Has this kid always been like this?

This kid's been wild since he came out of his mom's room. Bro, this kid's crazy. We play in this touch football league down in Villanova, and he coaches the team. It's like all the kids. And I go in to play quarterback because whatever. And he's screaming from the sideline. You're the biggest bum quarterback in his league.

I'm like, you're supposed to be coaching me. You're the fifth string quarterback on this team. I'm like, bro. Don't tell me how bad I am. He gets a little nervous, but when you let him go, he's a funny cat. Oh, you can tell, man. He's a freaking firecracker, man. I love it.

Well done. I'm sure that's a handful to deal with, but it's also a lot of fun, I'm sure. So way to go, Dad, that's awesome. Hell yeah. I appreciate it, boys. Yeah, it's fun. But, you know what, that'll put him in a headlock and drop him to the ground in three seconds. You got to go, man.

I do not hesitate, boy. I really appreciate you guys having them all. and it was a blast for him. He's been looking forward to. He looks up to you guys. I don't know why, but he does for some reason. I think Travis Scott Taylor, he's like, ah, that's my guy.

Jason's got him a beard, I guess. I love it, man. Well, well done, man. I appreciate it. Appreciate you, big guy. Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. All right.

That's Sam Salvo and his father, Paul. I still think that Sam's probably repeating a lot of those things that Paul say. But either way, that kid is something else, man. You can tell. Paul, you can tell where he is. personality. Exactly. Dude,

that whole family. Electric. Absolutely. All right. That wraps up, stamp of the week brought to you by Adobe Acrobat.

Any more final thoughts before the closest thing out, Tram? Super Bowl 60. We're going to be out there. A lot of things happening this week. I think we've kind of

already talked about it. Obviously, huge variable fans. Drake Mays got his opportunity to, you know, implement his self into, you know,

Super Bowl stardom. And I just think it's going to be a great game because the Julian came on here, talked about, you know, how the Patriots and their coaching staff, and they just have an ability to kind of control the pace of every game that they're in and then make the right decisions and the big plays when they need to be made on the offensive side. And that defense is good, man. And then on top of that, you got Seattle who's got the juice.

They got the energy. They got the excitement. They got the big playability. You know, they got the ability to grind it out in the run game. It's just, it's going to be a fucking fun matchup, man. That defense flies around. I'm sure they'll make Drake May's job a little bit harder than it's been. I'm excited for a fucking great game, but I do think that Seattle's got what it takes

to kind of come out on top on this one. I can't say I'm not here rude for San Donald, man. I just, I love that story. I love who he is as a dude, how he stayed true to the process and himself and his confidence. And right now he's playing better than he's played all. old career could not agree more man well said i'm pretty much right there with you on everything um i do got to say uh i will be out there at the pro i guess this is coming out wednesday so i'm going to be at the pro bowl beforehand it is wild how this whole week has turned it not even just the

super like there's like truly a week of almost like a convention for the nfl like the nfl like the whole thing there's NFL honors like all of it so yeah there's new hyde's fucking barcade party come on down at new heights baby either way enjoy Super Bowl 92% is that wraps up this episode of New Heights. Thank you to our guest, Cooper Cup, Julie Edelman, and of course, Sam Salvo, the young up-and-coming journalists. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow the New Heights show on Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast.

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Sam's going to be the king of Table C. Yeah, the Table C boys are going to love that. You have to fucking give them a chance to shout out the boys. Shout out your boys. Shout out your boys. Yeah, the Table C boys. Him and Derek Sanders are just going to run the third grade. Does you guys see me?

Does you guys see me? They're getting kicked out of class, guarantee. They're going to, their swag. their confidence is going to be way too high. They're going to think they're fucking way too cool. Man, there is something electric about having kids on. Mr. Faske, you're going to be flipping burgers. Do you know what you're talking to?

I'm Tris Kelsey's best friend. You fucking talking to me? I dig it, though. I dig the kids' vibe. I don't know what it is about it, man. I just like confidence. To Sam's teachers, we apologize immensely. Yeah, no doubt.

He's not walking in normal on Thursday. We're so sorry. We're sorry. But just put them straight to fucking in school detention, actually. Don't even give him a chance to fucking show up. Put it right against the nose against the wall. Speaking of kids, do you guys hear Benny just screaming right now? Is that audible?

Yeah. Should I try and... It makes the TurboTax ad read better, I think.