New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Julie & Zach Ertz on World Cup and real football & Johnny Knoxville on his Jackass' legacy | EP 196

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

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We need you to give us an intro. One of the iconic Johnny Knoxville intros. If you would, hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville. Welcome to New Heights. Is that doable? Yes. Or is that trademarked. That is, uh, do we now have to pay you?

I can say it, but it's going to be 50K. Deal. Hello, my name's Johnny Knoxville. Welcome to New Heights. Yeah. Yeah. There, down, down, down. Welcome back.

to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages and sizes. A Wondry show brought to you by Enterprise. How about that? Who doesn't love? Nothing parties like rental, Jason. We're your host. I'm Travis Cudges and my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Heights and shout out to UC, all our Bearcats family out there.

Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. And Jason is now going to tell you all the fun shit we're going to talk about. 90% is we got a great episode lined up for all of you guys listening and watching today. Two great conversations, one with a former teammate in mind, one of them the all-time Eagles greats, Zacherts and his wife, Juilliards, a USA grade. That's right. We're going to talk about some World Club Cup NFL, Football on Football Action. Football on Football Action.

And then on top of that, we're also going to get into our Johnny Knoxville conversation. and one of the biggest icons from our childhood. I think we all remember when that banjo would kick in and that show would tune on every week on MTV. And the shenanigans would start. Well, we're going to talk about Jackass in their upcoming last film, the best and last soon to be released.

But before we get into all that, let's get into some of that. New news is brought to you by Xfinity. And if you can't tell, this is a pre-take. episode this week. What? It is. Travis, you are currently at Titan News, so it would be impossible to do a actual. I bet you are. It's so much fun. George Kittle and Greg Olson. Greg Olson. Is the Laporta go down to this thing? No. Oh, yeah. Sammy. Sammy. All right.

What about Dallas Goddard? Dallas gotter. Dallas gotter. Oh, come on now. Dallas always in that thing. But I am perhaps even more excited this year. We got the interns going down to Titan U. That's right. intern Brandon and Jets Jake are going down to give a full tight end you recap. And, uh, yeah, it's going to be awesome. That'll be out next week. I think that's a surprise to me. Did you know that trap?

I didn't know that. Brandon and Jake headed it to Nashville. Are they just wanted to go to Nashville? Is that what's happening here? Nashville, man. Nashville. I'm getting some reps. I'm getting some reps in on there.

I'm going to find out what kind of athlete you've been dealing with. You're going to hit that new cane brown bar that just opened up, man. Ooh, we're going to have such a blast. Come on now. We're already having fun. We're having so much fun right now. Brandon would be more of an hback. Brandon would be more of an hback.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Maybe a fullback. I might get him in a fullback. I want those all.

He's not, he's not thick enough to be a true fullback. That's why he's got to be the h. He's got to move around. He's a tweeter. He's a tweeter. He's not a tweeter. I'll show you some fullbacks.

All right. We'll get some reps in. Travis, give me in that jugs machine. I want to show you these hands. Jugs? All right. Here's a problem.

and that's what you do and you line up there, they're putting out a certain personnel. If you're an H-bag, it's like, okay, we're not going to really try and shorten this guy's neck because he has a little bit more options here to be out in a bunch of different places. You're not physically capable to be a true. You don't think I can get a yard in the NFL.

Is that what I'm hearing? I know for certain. I'll get a yard. Jake, Jake totally bailed this car. I can get a yard. I don't know if I've ever seen you run before. You will. You're about to probably by time this.

There's, you will have seen me run. Please do not tear your ACO. I'm coming back from this with zero hamstrings. So I'm going, we're going straight from tied into you to beer bowl. So I'm going to be at CIO with zero. Oh, my gosh. I've never seen either one of you run. But I've, I've seen Jake walk and I can kind of imagine how he runs.

I don't know. I don't know. Jake is so mean. Jake has a, Jake has a medical exemption. from participating. I can run. He wouldn't pass the NFL physical. Yeah, well, not to, not the hit.

I can't get hit. I can, I can run. He wouldn't pass the physical. He's fucking hilarious. Jake's more of a clipboard player, is what we call it. Brandon was going to tight on you, and he just told me I had to come film him, use a jugs machine and run routes.

So I'll see you guys there. Please. I can't wait to watch this footage. All right. It's at Vanderbilt, so I don't know. I will probably have to ask them for a jugs machine, but typically we just ask a few quarterbacks to come. Okay.

Well, you zip one in here. What's the drill that you have to run on the line while guys are throwing it from each side and you can't? The gutlet. The gutlet. You want me to do a gauntlet. I want footage of Brandon borders running the gotlet. We can get that done. That's fucking hilarious.

Just tell me if it's left or right on the first throw. That's all I need to know. And I'm good. That's all I need to know. Keep your head on the swivel. Hands will be up. Keep your head on a swivel, Brandon. It'll be a defensive position.

We're ready to go. All right. Keep your head on a swivel. You're so fuck. Do I have to buy cleats? If you want to run around, it'd probably be smart of you to get cleats. Can you guys give me a helmet? I'm probably going to need that helmet.

I can probably find some helmet. You'd worry about fucking that face up. I don't think anybody's bringing a helmet. Yeah. Come on. Well, Marsha Brady broke her nose. I get it. There's no George Glass at our school.

All right. And also, Jason's down at the shore for Eagle's autism. Fundraiser in the fourth annual Beer Bowl. We will be releasing that video in July. And so make sure you're following all the socials and more details to come. Yeah. We are also going to be dropping

some of our summer collection with Warren James. Ooh, hell yes. Who's got the T-shirts? Is this a Warren James T-shirt? This, I don't know. Yeah. Nice, Jason. That is it.

He's bad boys. This actually, I really liked when it got in because it very much reminds me Cleveland Heights. It is. It is a heights feel. It really is. It's got that vintagey feel to it, man. It's got the nice color on there that makes you feel

gives you some good nostalgia. We're going to be dropping two T's, a crew neck, a hoodie, and finally, the boyfriend whistle. That's right. Hey, long overdue. Get in here, Brandon. Give him a little bit of that whistle. Nice. I got the dog behind you's

attention. So all you ladies out there looking to, you know, get some chores done around the house by your significant other. Like my dad said, sometimes you just need a swift kick in the ass, you know? Or a whistle. Yeah, you can check out all of this stuff on Kelsey Clubhouse.com. All of our new merch whistles. It is a one-stop shop for anything you guys are interested in buying within the New Heights universe. Yes, sir.

A lot of brands that Travis and I collaborate with all through that website. So you can find it all there. Kelsey Clubhouse.com. Also, this Friday, when we have, we'll be having another bonus episode, a Father's Day voicemail. Ooh, how about it? And we've got some bonus clips from a few of our recent guests that we've been saving. And we are going to make sure that you guys don't miss out on the fun and the laughs. So that's right.

Yeah, we'll have some of that for you as well. Well, that's it for new news. brought to you by Xfinity, which brings us to out of the house. Out of the house. Brought you by Home Depot. Anything you need is at Home Depot. All right? Including stuff out of the house.

Yeah. To get out of the house, you go to the Home Depot, get more stuff to be out of the house, and then you're, that's why it's a perfect segue into. Jason did a little goalkeeping with Tim Howard. I did. I did. How is this? So I've been interested in penalty kicks, all right?

Penalty kicks decide a lot of World Cup games. I still remember vividly this guy, the German goalkeeper, I believe it was the 98 World Cup, I guess. Okay. It's a quarterfinal game in the World Cup. It comes down to penalty kicks, and he goes in his sock,

and he pulls out a note card. And he proceeds to guess which direction the shooter is shooting all four times. He saves two of them, and they end up winning and then proceed to win the World Cup. And I'm still like, what the fuck was on that note card? and it's just crazy to me that the biggest sporting event in the world comes down to this very niche thing that really doesn't have much to do with soccer.

It's a very specific thing to penalty kicks. And one in five games has decided this way. And I've always wondered what's going through the goalkeeper's heads. I didn't even realize it was one in five. One and five. That's crazy. That's elimination games. It gets that, wow.

It's that common. I mean, the games end up being tied after that first OT or however much longer they play. First 90 minutes. Well, but they go to an overtime first. And then if it's tied after the overtime period, I think it goes to shoot out. Through 120 minutes? I think, something like that. Whatever, whatever it is.

I'm sorry. I also just love watching them. And I've always wondered, how does a goalkeeper choose what side? How does a shooter choose what side? What's the technique behind it? So we engulfed, I engulfed myself in the, the penalty kick world and recruited the best USA goalkeeper of all time

Tim Howard to teach me a thing or two. Hell yeah. And this is all on the YouTube channel? It is. We have some clips, I think, that they sent over that I don't know what they sent over, but. Oh, fucking Brandon, let's do this. Hopefully we sent over some good ones.

Did you have the jersey on? I got a little bit of a soccer goalie jersey on right now. That's what I'm saying, Treve. That jersey would have been real good. Who the fuck is 17? No chance. No chance at all. So what?

So tell me, tell me what you're thinking here. Fast feet. Nice hot feet. Fast feet. Nice hot feet. Tim told me. Tim told me fast feet.

Oh. Oh. And it's the other way. It's the other way. They really sent the fun ones over. So this is all at St. Joe's University with the team. I got one.

I got one. I don't know if that's the one that didn't go in. That's the one that I saved. Did you touch any of? them. I'm not going to give it away. You got to watch the video. Oh, okay. All right. My bad. My bad. I did end up saving a kick, as you saw from that day. Yeah, I mean, listen, the stats behind penalty kicks are the goal is not, if you're saving one in five, you're doing a good job. If you save the goal in a penalty kick shoot out, you want to save two. Because if you save two, your chances of winning the game are through the roof.

The goal is to save them all, but I hear you on like. Yeah, it's just not going to happen. I used to, so I would always say the hardest thing in pro sports is hitting a baseball because if you do it one in four times, you're like one of the best players in major league baseball, right? Yeah. Saving penalty kicks is hard. The percentage chance is way lower. It is a very hard thing to do. You're trying to guess left right. Right. They'll even go right down the middle on you. Then they can mix up the tempo. They can't stop as kickers, but they can slow down, speed up. Play with the tempo and all that. It is extremely hard to, I mean, you're guessing.

Yeah. So anyways. Yeah. That video is out now on my YouTube channel. So you can check that out. And that was a fun out of the house. And shout out to Tim Howard for show me, you know, a thing or two. USA great.

That's right. Got to love that. Well, I can't wait to jump on YouTube and check this one out. Make sure everybody goes to Jason's YouTube channel and you're not going to want to miss this when Jason just getting out of the house is the best shit ever. Once again, out of the house. Brought to you by Home Depot. Get out of the house.

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That's right. And this conversation is brought to you by HubSpot. Our guests today have a combined two World Cups, bronze medal, two concord, championship two-time U.S. soccer player in the year, three Pro Bowl is a Super Bowl championship. And they hold the Philadelphia Eagles franchise record for most receptions in a single season. Let's go! They're maybe the most athletically accomplished couple in all the sports. We have the urtons, Zacherts and Julian!

That's right. Fire up, man. How's it going, guys? How's the off season treating you? Yeah, we're doing great. We're here. It's already summer, summer in Arizona. So hitting 100s already this week.

So it's hot. You guys choose to live out there just because, you know, when you go outside, you're going to get a good, nice sweat, sweat, all the toxins, all the beers you've been drinking, all the wine you've been drinking. I mean, you guys know how it is. As you get older, the warm weather feels good on the joints. It's just nice to walk.

outside already have your full lather going and you don't have to worry about warm it up really old age get out of here get out of here how is the body feeling though brother it's good we're in a good spot we're like uh five almost six months now from from surgery um so just training every day doing everything i can to get back to where i was obviously it's a it's a long process it's uh there's some long days or some long weeks, some long months. But Julie's been there every step of the way, helping me out. I got a phenomenal team around me as well. So it's tough, but at the end of the day,

we're just trying to stack these days right now. Yeah, the three boys are keeping him busy. For sure. That's right. You beat me to it. I was about to say, what's harder, the rehab or chasing the three kids around? Definitely, especially early on when I was, like, immobile

and being useless on the couch and watching Julie chase around the three maniacs and me just over there. We just worry that someone's going to jump off the couch straight into my knee. That's probably the most stressful part of the rehab, honestly. We don't have a dog, but I imagine that's what people feel like that have dogs when they're rehab. Yeah, our house is so loud. We like jokingly call them the monsters.

Like, they're, it's like, as you guys know with having brothers, he's one of four boys. I have to, like, warn people when they come in. I'm like, just so you know, like, it is so loud in here. And Jordan Hicks came over to our house the other day to go to dinner. And he goes, he walks in the house and goes, I think I can smell the testosterone in here. Let's go. I gotta love it. Julie,

you getting excited for this World Cup or what? Dude, I'm so excited. We're going to be there at the first game, so I'm even more excited. And we're going to take Madden. So, like, he loves soccer. So just the joy to, like, share it. And I'm, you know, we're not pushing it at all.

But, like, he likes it and, like, asks about it, watches it with me, watches it with Zach. So it's like, yeah, I'm stoked. Like my heart's pounding out of his excitement. How do you feel about that, Zach? Are you okay with Sa? I mean, they're both false sports, right? They are false sports.

What's going to happen here? I mean, as you both know, there's so many sports that translate to football. I don't know if football is a transferable skill besides the mindset aspect. So I'm all for trying all these soccer, basketball, baseball, because football will always be there if you wants it. But I'm not pushing him on anything. If you ask him, if you ask him right now, what he wants to play, he's going to say football.

And unfortunately, he wants to play tight end. So for us, it's just, it's a fun season of life. You can always do club sports and club teams and whatnot. There's ways you can do both these days. And I agree. I feel like peewee football, you don't gain much from doing that. I think you gain more playing a sport like soccer where you develop footwork and coordination and endurance. You do baseball, hand-eye coordination and gymnastics even.

My kids do gymnastics. I couldn't do any of that stuff. Definitely not now. All the team sports, you're, you're getting. to get that camaraderie aspect of it. So, I mean, it's kind of pick your poison. But I hear you guys, at that young age, it's kind of, I don't know, if football is the favorite, it's almost like, yeah, maybe just try some other sports to make football easier,

you know, especially in the tight end world, you're going to get asked to do everything. What does he play in soccer? Chase. But he's only like, he'll be four in August. So he, they just chase. Like, honestly, like, the craziest part now is like, like, oh, this is a new position that we just created for him. I'm just like, I'm the idiot.

That's so good. It is funny, though, because he talks about doing, like, multi-sport, but it's, like, it's kind of confusing him because for his, like, first game when they go to line up for kickoff, Madden was in a three-point stance to start the kickoff for soccer. Let's go! It's like the funniest video. You want to talk about intimidation. Yeah, exactly.

He was, like, staring him down. It's the funniest video. So we were, like, I'm laughing, honestly, the entire, like, time of the game and, you know, keeping my mouth shut. I cheer really loud, but I'm just, like, zipped. He's four. So it's pretty funny. Well, this leads in really well to our first kind of topic here. We have a little section called football versus football.

We're going to ask you soccer and football questions as the resident experts in our lives at bowl sports. So let's go first question. Which one is the real football? Ooh. You can go for a second. Okay, well, I'm obviously going to say soccer. What a gentleman. He just knows he's about to get destroyed.

Soccer for sure, because I'm pretty sure soccer was developed way before, like, y'all started catching the ball. And then you barely use your feet. And sometimes you can go with a game without, like, a kick. I mean, really, I guess punt counts. But, like, I mean, you could go technically without having a kick the entire game. I would agree there. Unfortunately, I would agree because I feel like their game has been around a lot longer than ours. And why did we call it football in the first place?

I would love an explanation of why it was called football from the start. But of course, I'm going to defend our American football to the death. But at the end of the day, if we go over to Europe, I mean, it is a tough argument. We run on our feet, Zach. Everything starts from the ground up. You know that. Yes, you're right. Thank you.

That is what I mean. That's how I need to have an argument and walk away just with that. And it's soccer. They wear the long socks over the shingards. So it looks like they have socks. What? Don't you guys for socks? You guys were socks.

We okay. Okay, Julie, good point. Fair enough. Good point. We have long socks. Julie, have you ever tried to kick a field goal? So my dad actually kicked at LSU. He was a kicker.

So I like grew up kind of like, like he would go and train kids to like kick. to like kick and punt. So like I have an awareness of how to do it. But yeah, I mean, it's very similar mechanics. It's a little different. But yeah. So what's our farthest field goal? I got to know this.

We got to know. We got to people need to know this. Have we done distance? I think she could probably hit 30 yards. 30 yards. When we were in college, we would do like a PK shootout. And I was in goalie and she was the PK taker. And it was really, it was really hard to play goalie.

and dude it blows my mind how close that PK is dude I know the it is literally it feels like 10 feet away you got a fucking insane that goalies actually stop those at uh at times man no doubt yeah they say if you

if you can stop two of them in the in a PK shootout you're like gonna win usually fucking one one one is still good but two is like you're almost guaranteed to win it and then One in five of the World Cup elimination rounds usually are decided by PKs. It's not even playing the sport. It comes down to like this very niche thing.

And I don't know. I love, selfishly, I love it. It's so electric. Yeah. It's so fucking electric. It's so fun. Do you remember there was a German goalkeeper and he was like the first one that pulled the little note card out of his sock and he was reading it while the guys are coming up.

And he had his like little scouting report. And now they like put it on the water bottle and all that stuff. but I, and he guessed right every time. And I was, it still stands out to me. No, it is crazy. Like the stat world of sports and how it's like intertwined is like pretty insane. Like the stuff we looked at before World Cup was insane. Is it as simple as like, hey, you, if you, this goalie, if you kick it right, you're more

likely to score X percent of time or is it more what you do well? Or is it like, hey, if the person before you kicked left, then if you kick right, then if you kick high, then kick low, I'm probably way... That seems more like a mental game that I'm not ready for. I'd rather just kick it in the net. I'm not using myself now. No, I would say it's more the opposite. It's more the goalkeeper's stats and understanding, like, players.

Like, they go back in the archives and like look at stuff. And I mean, they have it for the kickers. I think for that, like making it way less like crazy. Like where you should kick it like in the goals, like where the corners, what the pace is is better. for the keepers, like certain keepers. But yeah, I'd feel like it's more goalkeeper look at stats than the actual kicker. How many PKs did you take in your career?

Very little. That's a great question. Yeah. They always gave me like eight. They always gave me like number eight in the lineup. That just means when it matters most. If it goes into extra PKs, when we need it most. Yeah, I was waiting.

I was waiting for my moment. So it wasn't that I wasn't ready. I just called up. What was your side? Your left side, right side? Right side. Push it. Push it.

Nice. since you guys have both. You are literally the only couple that has both. Which trophy is better, the World Cup or the Lombardi? This feels ridiculous. This is a ridiculous question. I don't even like the Lombardi. It's a terrible trophy.

I can tell you the looks. The World Cup look is like very simple and like, but if you're talking about like, you know, every four years is this opportunity. Like I don't think there's really a, nice yeah you know i'm surprised you didn't go to her world conversation about how we don't play a world there's no world champion in football because you only play the americans we're implied we're there's nobody i mean we're so good we're just better than the rest of the world that's

how it works right that is that american mentality facing you guys are ridiculous who was more excited for the other when when uh when the eagles won the shoot bowl or when the u.s women's national team got the World Cup. Who was more excited? Zach for Julie or Julie for Zach? There's only one right answer to you, Zach. Of course. There's only one. We were in France for a really long time.

Wait, can I? I have a story for that. Well, can I tell them the story? I mean, we're here at this point. Okay. I would say Zach was, I would say Zach was more excited only because of this story. So after you win, so in the 2019, we were in France, it's really hot, like super hot and there's no AC there. You just need to, like, know that.

And I was there forever, mind you, because I was such a supportive husband. Continue. So we get to sit, like they get to sit so close and you get to see your family after. You know how in the Super Bowl, your family gets to run out? You're going to celebrate with them. They don't get to go on the field. You like walk over to the side by the bleachers. And I have this like beautiful photo and I'm like hyperventilating because I'm like laughing.

But he goes, he's like, congratulations. Like I'm so proud of you. Like, like, wow, what an accomplishment. Like, can we go home now? It's so hot. Can we get back to that American AC? He was great and so supportive. I don't say that.

We were, like, laughing just because the poor men was just, like, sweating. You guys are big guys, like, not having a seat for two months. I mean, you're there for two months, if not longer, like, with training before. That's awesome, though. It was also, like, record highs in France. One of those weeks we were out there, record high. So I was dying out there. I'm a cold room sleeper, guys.

I'm cold room sleeper. Dude, we're all in the same boat there, dude. I get furious when I get to the room and it won't let me put it. below 65, I get, I go down and I confront the front desk. What do you guys? I paid for this room. I paid this AC. No, I'm right there with you.

I feel like that's one of the reasons America is such an obese country. It's because I have AC. It makes you comfortable being fat. I'm just being honest. You don't have to deal with the ramifications of it. Oh, man, it's too convenient to sit in the house. If I wanted to be fat anywhere, it's give me the America on all the AC. France, that's a tough one.

That's a tough one. That's why there's thin. They're thin out there in France. This one's very simple. What sport is more physically demanding? I want to say football, but the running is crazy in soccer. I would rather block Helodinata than run. Romani Miles soccer players are running.

I'll take that one hit for two seconds. I don't give a shit. Yeah, but over and over and over. I can't run. You can't run two miles right now. You'd be like 150 pounds if you play soccer. You're losing 140. You're losing half your body to go play soccer.

It's, uh, I will say though, one time I did, I tried to do one of her runnings. And it was, I tapped out after like rep two. It was horrible. Oh, fuck that. Even now. You got to tell us what it was. I don't even, I think it was just like you run the length of the field and then you walk 18 yards and then you have to run the whole length of the other field and you just like continue to do that for until you pass out essentially pass out or throw up and I passed out after two of them.

No, I agree. I think if you're going to like physicality of like getting tackled by these ginormous men, like that would be the only thing that like is so different. But I think if you're talking about like taxing, I mean, you guys like after 20 seconds, you're like, let's come on in together and like let's talk about. some things and then like we'll go again. That's too good. All right. Julie, question specifically for you. Why historically has the U.S. women's national team been so much more competitive than the men's U.S. national team and soccer?

Well, I think the investment of like the women's national team, I think we started in 85 was our first league. And I think before that was before any other country. kind of really put money into their federation. And so that I think the commitment to the players that were before, right, like Michelle Acresby, Ham, like all these players that really like invested their time and effort to make it what it is today. But yeah, I think the biggest thing is really probably just the investment in the federation

to kind of allow a spot for the players to, you know, make it is what it is now, right? Like we wouldn't have been as successful without those players like getting paid nothing, like doing it strictly because they believed in the game and to make it like, you know, a dream for us, right, to be able to pay and do that for a job. Also, from the men's side, most of the high athlete men in the U.S. play either football or basketball. Would you guys agree with that? Like, I feel like we're not getting as much of our high caliber athletes playing soccer

that somebody's not true. Me and Jason say this all the time. The best ticket in American sports is on the court at an NBA game. If we got some basketball guys, like if LeBron James, is a goalie? Could you imagine those big feet trying to dribble the ball, though? That's the only thing. Yeah, I don't know how many, like, even if you were putting goat, like, who's the best

players to ever play soccer? Like, I don't think they're averaging the size of six, seven. But I'm not sure. I do think people are starting to play it a lot earlier and, like, committed to it now. And they're making some, you know, there's some really top players out there. But yeah, I mean. I will say, like, when it comes to American youth sports, you kind of just do one sport a season.

Like growing up, it was baseball in the spring. It was football in the fall. It was basketball in the winter. And you watch some of these documentaries from these other countries, some of these soccer greats. It's like they're playing soccer in the fall. They're playing indoor soccer in the winter. They're playing beach soccer in the summer and spring.

And that's all they're doing. Like, if you play baseball, your whole life, none of your skills are translating to soccer. And so I feel like in America, we're just, like, we're creating this, like, good at a lot of different things and you're developing the athlete, whereas in other countries, you're developing soccer-specific athletes, because that is the pinnacle in pretty much every other country. As you can tell, we have this conversation all the time.

We talk about it all over there. Seriously, though. All right. What's harder. Playoff football and World Cup soccer. What's a horrible comparison. Both. Both early.

I know. I know. Listen, I don't like the question any more than you do. I don't know. But I had that. I should have just skipped it. I think playoff football is harder at the beginning of the World Cup when it's like the round robin, best of four teams and the top two advance. That's a good.

And then from there it's probably pretty similar. Yeah. That's good. That's a very good answer. Yeah. You played in a World Cup in Canada and France. What makes a city a good host? Gosh, those were both.

incredible host, but I will say, um, I liked France a little bit better because you're only in one country. The size of Canada is so big. Like, we would fly. We were in like Vancouver and we'd go all the way to like Ottawa to, I'm going to act like I know where everything is, like to Toronto. Like, but it's just such a big travel for just sometimes you have a shorter time to recover a bigger time. So the thing with France is like we could bus to like the next place or train. And so that part was just nice. because it just felt like you didn't have to, that recovery piece wasn't as big as when we were playing kind of all over. So that's what's interesting because this World Cup for the Men's is, you know,

it's attached to Canada, attached to Mexico. So there's a lot of travel kind of going around. So great host cities for sure, like just because the cities are incredible and they'll make it that way. But as a player, I like loved like having it so close because we would bus and it's like, you know, the way that decorated the city was like incredible. When'd you say, like, we would go and, like, you'd go into a bakery and it was, like, on the window. So, like, really felt, like, so, like, filtered of, like, this is women's soccer, World Cup. And it's, like, right here.

Like, that's what I love that part. Well, this one is a much easier one, I think. What is the better chant? The Eagles, E-A-G-L-E-S chant or the, I believe that we can win, we will win, chant for the U.S. soccer. Are you going to answer that one? No, you got you started off on a few. Okay. Well, the Eagles one is a better chance. I think because it's so what it is and like personal to that. I think I do love it because it's so bad. Like I love the fan group that like started it. I'm like the American that laws, I'm sure started that whole thing. So I love it. I think we just like kind of threw it out there and we were like, yes, we have one. Let's go. And no, I think like we're so on board with this by the way. Yeah.

Yeah. We're trying to find new chance for American soccer team 100%. But it is fun when you win to cheer. When you go like this and you're singing the song when you win, it's incredible. It rocks. Yeah. The USA chant is awesome. Trabb, do you have any of that maybe you or someone you know really well?

That has for USA Soccerhood. Ooh, now we're thinking, Zach, I didn't even go there. We got to get the creative juices going over there. I'll ask Tay, see what she has. There you go. There we go. Yeah, I just, I believe that we will win feels so like, yeah, why the fuck would you not believe you can? I don't know what's this.

It feels very, I get it. We're the underdog a lot of times. We're trying to exude confidence. But I don't know. I was over in Brazil and the Brazilians were doing a chant for the men's U.S. World Cup down there. And I was like, ooh, what are they saying? It was Brazil versus Chile. And they're like, gee, gee, gee.

And I'm like, man, what are they saying? And I like asked one of the Brazilian sexes me. And they said, we just said we came here to fuck Chile. And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about. I like that one. That's a chance. That's a confident chant.

That just exudes confidence. Yeah. And the ramifications if you lose are just as strong. Ah, yeah. That's one thing if you're saying that when you got Namar doing like cartwheels and backlips over people, it's like, you know? We got to get one of those guys before we start to say, we're about to fuck you up.

I guess we'll ask both of you as we ask all of our guests. What is your welcome to football moment? I don't know if you remember, but my rookie year, I would miss like the whole offseason. And so I wasn't able to come till mini camp, or till training camp, excuse me.

And seeing Michael Vic, like in the first row in team meeting was insane as a guy that grew up watching him and playing with him on video games. But on the practice field, the old line wasn't there, but Chip Kelly used to have us do this like five yards apart tackling drill. And I was his work. I didn't know any better. And Trent Cole and Connor Barwin are on the other side.

And it's a five-yard box. And if you had to avoid them, you're kind of viewed in a different light. So it was like 10 minutes of just getting picked up and driven into the ground. And my shoulder I'm pretty sure I had like a grade two or three AC spraying after that. I mean it's like a week of practice. Because it was just Trent Cole and Connor

just picking me up and throwing me to the ground. Cincinnati Bearcats finest baby. There you go. Getting after you, man. Fuck. That sounds absolutely miserable. I remember my rookie year, we had a,

we had this special teams drill called the Star drill. And it's essentially the same thing. you would get put between like a five yard box or they set up some cones and you had to it was like basically simulating the original kickoff where one guy would be like back to you turn around and have to like try and block a guy and if you stopped them or like you pushed them out of the the lane you won and vice versa if you got past him you won and i remember i i felt like i was fucking dominating i was like fucking giving them the hezie i was giving them like i was giving them like i was giving them like i was running routes. I was doing a whole bunch of just nonsense. Like shit you wouldn't do if you had to go and tackle somebody on kickoff. And I actually did a spin move on a guy one time. And the coach came up to be coached.

I love still special teams coach to this day. Came up to he said, hey, Kelsey, don't ever fucking do that again. You're never going to do. You're going to get killed if you do that in the game. Don't ever do that again. And that was your last rep in special teams altogether. Exactly. exactly he's all right you don't fucking get it get out of here kid

julie what do you got for us I mean probably I mean not as similar to that but probably as close as you could get I play defense so obviously it had to go up against Abby Wambach who's just like known for being in the air so probably just getting like blasted in the face and just like like trying to like suck it up and you're just like they're like oh yeah you're good

and like some of it I'm like was it seemed a little excessive like was it just like welcome to the like welcome as being a rookie you're like and you're like yeah oh good and it like hurt for like the rest of your life my pride i was like i just want to go home but no probably something like i can't think of anyone where i'm like or like you know unfortunately like late for a meeting i know that was a hard one for me when i i fell asleep because we're doing double days and i'm like this young buck fell asleep through a meeting showed in late and i was like not good yeah got to get that cup of joe yeah this is before my coffee obsession happened that's probably what's what the trauma started my coffee obsession

100% it got for me. I was doing the same thing dozing off. I got big red yelling at me to stay up in meetings. I feel like I just, like, got cut. The way he yelled at me, I was just like, I'm fucking out of here tomorrow. One of the vets came out to me and said, slap me on the arm and said, go get a cup of coffee, no matter how much you hate the taste, you're going to appreciate what it does for you.

I'm like, no doubt. All right. And I can't go into a meeting without a cut. Do you feel, Julie, like center defensive midfield is the equivalent of tight end on a soccer pitch. Like it feels like you're, you gotta got to be good at everything a little bit. I'm making this up.

I'm, grassy, I was like, I didn't know that was like, I didn't know that was like, I would say, I see it. I see it for sure.

You think so? I was going to say more the six more than you think. I feel like, depending how you play, it was going to say more like quarterback style because that's how they want to start now. Like they want the six to kind of be, but the quarterback doesn't play defense.

So I guess that's kind of useless point either. But I guess so, a little bit of everything. You do need to know a little bit. So that's probably a better comparison. I don't know where that came from, but we're going to get to our next session. We've got to ask, is it true? Zach is the reason Jason showed up to training camp with blonde hair.

Oh, yeah. Yes, it is true. What was the bet again? Are we allowed to talk about it? Oh, we're allowed to talk about it. I'm trying to remember right now. I remember. What was he?

It was the off season where it was like looking that I was getting traded well before training camp. That's what it was, yes. And I essentially hadn't been there all off-season. I had ankle surgery, so I was missing OTAs anyway. And I showed up for training camp with blonde hair. I don't regret much about my time in Philly or this career, but the one thing I do regret is kind of that phase is showing up to train camp in the blonde hair. I liked it.

That's really all that matters, honestly. It definitely looks smooth. It definitely looks smooth. It definitely smooth. That was fucking with it. But it was like so obvious, unfortunately, that my time, was probably coming to an end that Jason was like, bro, when are you getting trade? You're going to get traded any day now.

If you're still on the team, week one, then I'll dye my hair. I don't, I had nothing to lose in this. I don't think I had anything like, oh, if I'm on the team, there was, it was just seeing him every day. I just wanted Zach to have something to look forward to if you were still on the team. Like, at least Jason dyed his hair in a match. And I will say, Jason, aka Guy Fierry, after that, looks phenomenal. for them

The Guy Fierry Street Fighter combo Oh, look at this guy. That is, that has to be... I mean, fuck, our intern Brandon just found the worst possible photo of me.

It looks like you're enjoying the haircut. You look like you're enjoying it. It looks like he faces like right there. That had to be the third day of pads. That had to be the morning of the third day of pads. Week six padded practice after you just lose on Monday, 90s.

Yeah, I don't think highly liked your hair as much like Zach's hair, but.

Yeah. Well, now, somebody talked about Philadelphia exactly. Do you, now that you've

gone, you know, other places, Arizona, obviously, Washington last year, like, do you have a

favorite stop? Is it Philadelphia? Please tell me it's Philadelphia. Make sure it's, you say Philadelphia. I mean, when you spend nine years,

somewhere, you're going to have, always have a natural affinity for the place. and the time we were there, got drafted at 22, spent the first nine years in my career there essentially. And, yeah, I mean, when you're there for so long,

you're always going to have a special spot in your heart. Unfortunately, unlike you two, I wasn't able to play my whole career there. But it's been a blessing to play for Arizona and Washington in the past couple years. But, yeah, Philly will always be special. When you talk about the fight song, even when you're on the other sideline,

when I was in Washington in the past few years, it's still, like, subtly in the back of my, mind going to sing it as I'm over there watching it. Oh, yeah. It will always have a special place in our heart for sure. Zach, you have the most receptions of any Philadelphia Eagle ever to play. You have multiple fourth down conversions that led to the first Super Bowl ever in Eagles history. My only claim to fame is that I had a lot of star.

I never just like, hey, he's out there. He's out there again. He's doing it. He's doing the thing again. Right? You're forever an Eagle. Like, dude, it was, yeah, anyways. still, it was such a fun time having you in Philadelphia.

I know you're still doing your thing. So we can't reminisce too much. You're still going to be someplace this year. But anyways, yeah, just wanted to go down memory lane there for a second. What's your favorite memory from being a Philadelphia Eagle? Oh. Besides the Super Bowl. I mean, this is, yeah, the parade was obviously special.

I think the thing I look back on fondest is like our core group of guys that we had together. for a long period of time with you, Lane, BG, Fletch, myself. Like, it wasn't easy all the time for any of us. Like, there were times where, like, we would get killed in the media or whatever it was. And it's like, I always knew of you four always had my back regardless of what we were going to. And I hope you guys felt the same about me. Yep. And it is a little emotional talking about.

I don't know why. But just like going through that, I would say, just being around the guys, you know, no one, no one's going to remember about how many yards or catches or starts we, had, but I do remember the day-to-day grinding in the stories of you kicking over trash cans because you didn't like the way a coach was treating someone else or laying hiding your helmet or those are the things I remember about the day-to-day. I don't remember in week 11 how many catches or yards or if we want or not, but I do remember like those sorts of things the most.

Those are my favorite stories to hear because Jason, that was Jason all day and every day growing up as a kid and some of the teams we got to play on. I get, I get to cherish some of those memories too, but a good Jason blow up. Always does the team well somehow. It's somehow it's just like, all right, he's getting fired up. Let's fucking get this thing going, baby. I still owe the Cleveland Heights hockey program of foosball table. That wasn't anybody's fault of yours.

Yeah, I know. If we really want to go down memory lane, that story of kicking over trash can is like level one out of a hundred. stories I have. That is the lowest of the totem pole. But we're not going to know. This is a family-friendly program. He'll give it for a roast. There's ever a day to roast, Jason.

Just bring him a lot. That's right. Oh, man. A lot of material for my teammates. So Zach was just talking about what it was like being a former Philadelphia Eagle, thinking about the teammates and, you know, the memories there. Is the same thing with you and the women's national team? Oh, yeah.

I think when you're just, when you're just, when you step away from something, you don't realize how special it is, just because, yeah, like when you're in, you're so soul focused, right? Like, whatever the task is at hand of like, you know, I have to be the best player to do this. I have to, so you're on all the time that you kind of forget to just like really understand, right, like how cool this is. And I think stepping away from it and being retired for a couple years, you're like, whoa, like, what a special time. And every time now I see somebody or like, see a teammate from the past. It's like instant connection because

just nobody else understands, but that locker room. And I think, that's the coolest part is like regardless of everything it's like wow those like you've gone through something and i think that's why i also just love sports so much is like the people that come in your life and you know that support you love you teach you everything um so yeah i feel the same way and i think even when you my favorite thing is like when you get back together like when you guys all got back together uh like recently and like all the eagles guys together it's like you can see the joy awesome yes and like it's exudes like you see it because it's just like an instant connection you go back right where it was

before like you left and it's the same thing i got to see a couple of teammates this past week and i just like man like so and it's just funny right you have those stories and like nobody else can really like understand that and it's like the only time you're like you right like the full you now i like you know have to mingle with other people of like zacks or not zacks madden's like class mates and stuff but it's like nobody knows those stories right like with like they're so i love it that's so cool awesome. Zach, when you got drafted to Philly, did any part of you feel bad

that it was over me? There's no chance. They stole an opportunity for me to play with my brother. I think the better question is, how long did it take you to get over me being drafted? He's still not over it, Zach. He's never

still to this day. He's still to the Super Bowl's later. He plays a Pat Mahomes. He's still not over. Absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely. ridiculous, Chip Kelly. I get it. I get it. He smoked you in the pack 12 for years. I didn't know at the time, like Jason was on the team already. I didn't really know the dynamic of that. But over the years, there's definitely been like Jason, you know,

is that Travis was doing this. Maybe you should try that. And Jason trying to just let me know how amazing you were doing every game, even though I did, obviously I already knew as well. Stop it. Stop it. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't say I apologize, but it's not too late, Jason. You could come out of retirement. I know Creed Humphre, still got it. Maybe you could go. Creed to water or something.

That's right. Too funny. Zach, do you have Mount Rushmore tight ends? That's a great question, obviously. For me, I think Jason Witten is on there just because he was the guy that, like, I always watch. And someone I modeled my game after, I would say Trave would be on there. obviously as a 2013 class member, phenomenal player.

I would say Gronk, obviously, probably the most dominant, complete time. You can't put yourself on. Travis put himself on. You are very welcome to put yourself on. He loves telling everybody that, doesn't he? And I'm sure I'm going to forget someone, but I mean, Tony Gonzalez has like, every tight end record ever. So I don't know how you could say that he's not on there as well.

TG. So I would say those four are probably my personal favorites. Julie, you got to give us yours. Mount Rushmore, Women's Soccer. US Women's Soccer. Let's just say Mount Rushmore of Women's Soccer outside of the greatest era of women's soccer. I'm terrible at this. So pre-2012.

Pre-2012. Okay. Pre-2012. Okay, so you have Michelle Egers, Mea-Ham. you have, I mean, Julie Fowdy is one of my absolute favorite. Who am I missing? Put her on then. She's on there.

Christine Lilly, that's four. There you go. That was just my first one in my mind. There it is. Boom. That I didn't play with. So people are going to be like, how dare you not say this person? Very clear.

Yes. All right. Well, it's all right. At least you didn't put yourself up there. Yeah. That's great. Well, congratulations to you guys. awesome thanks for coming on we really appreciate it it's awesome talking to you guys yeah appreciate the

stories appreciate the time Zach you already know how much love i got for your brother there's been so much respect throughout the years um and you already know still still doing it for the class of 2013 um not not a lot of us still doing it julie being able to see you and your career from afar you're literally one of the best ever do it appreciate you guys jumping on having some fun with us and listen to us make up some kind of nonsense to like, we're bringing it back home, bringing it back home at the end of the day. No, no. We appreciate you guys, man.

Yeah, this is funny. This is a great time. All righty, thank you to Zach and Julie Urge so much for coming on the pod. They really are. I mean, I loved them when they were in Philadelphia. So happy to see that they're both still killing it. You know, brand new twins out there. They got, I mean.

They're so down earth. You know they're going to be. just the absolute best parents and those kids are going to be awesome. But they're also going to be fucking hell at. They're going to be really good at whatever sport they end up picking. Yeah. It sounds like Zach is really hoping for football and Julie is really hoping for soccer. Come on tight ends.

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but you also know him best as one of the creators and stars of the hit show movie series, Jackass. 992 presenters, please welcome Johnny Knoxville! Let's go! Jason coming in hot. That's right, that's right.

I had to do it right. Johnny, do you have any idea how much you shape our entire childhood and like the entire ethos of the 2000s? Like it's... Dude, it's unbelievable. What is it like looking back for you? Please apologize to your mom for me. Who was great on traders, by the way.

She was. Oh, nice. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, she didn't last long, but she was a fan favorite. Yes. She was into it. She was into it, though.

What is it like, Johnny? Like, talking to people about how much the show inspired them, like, what it meant to them. Like you had people glued to MTV, like ready for the next. It was a fucking lifestyle. It still is. But it's, I promise you.

I remember immediately going to the grocery store and jumping in a shopping carty getting tossed out of that thing. Yeah. It's wild because we didn't even think the show is going to get on television and nor did we think anyone was going to watch. So we were constantly surprised along the way and that it means something to people is just it blows us. away because it's something we created with our friends, you know? It's very, it's very odd.

It's, it's a very intimate thing to us, but it's kind of everyone's now. Was the original like pitch to MTV? Like how did it how did, how, if you didn't think it was going to get on TV, how did you like get it up and running? Like, how did that, uh, kind of unfold? Um, I was writing for different magazines and I was trying to pitch this. I, um, I was trying to pitch this. I, idea to test self-defense equipment on myself, like stun gun, taser gun, pepper spray. And then I was going to shoot myself. Well, I did shoot myself with the bulletproof vest. And a lot of people wanted the article, but they didn't want, they wanted to treat it as a negative pickup. Like, okay, send it to us when you're done. But I was broke. I needed someone to help me buy the

taser gun, stun gun, pepper spray. Uh, so Jeff, Jeff, Remain who became the director of Jackass. He was the editor of a skateboarding magazine. He goes, I'll give you the money. And also, why don't you film it while when you do it? And that's kind of how it all began. It started in skateboard videos. Yeah.

This is epic, man. And then we just took some of the things I did in skateboard videos along with some of the stuff Bam was doing on the East Coast and made like a 10-minute tape and gave it to different agents because Jeff and I, Jeff Tremaine, the director went to high school with Spike Jones. So Spike was like a big video director and directing his first film. So you took two guys who knew nothing, but they knew Spike Jones. So everyone thought suddenly we knew something. We knew shit, you know, we just knew Spike.

So that's kind of how we got an agent and an attorney. and people to pay attention because we knew spite. Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, Jackass best and last. How do you feel about it? We loved it. We both saw it.

Thank you for giving us the little premiere to check it out before this. Some of the best skits. I mean, is that the gist of it? It's like you guys are compiling all of your favorite ones. How did you get to the, I don't even know if skits is the right word, but the best versions. Skits, bits, whatever you want to call them. It's like half new footage and half of our favorite bits. that we've ever filmed.

And Spike Jones directed a new open and a new close. And we just wanted to do it one more time for us and for the fans. And so that's how it all came together, really. It's brilliant. The opening is one of my favorite opens of all time, man. And there's a bit of a new cast, right? Yeah, we have our newest and on audits. Oddly enough, last cast member ever is a humanoid robot named One W. Larry.

And let me tell you, he's not the smartest robot you ever met. Surprisingly good dexterity for a robot. I was very surprised I met. He has two different sets of hands, right? He has two different sets of hands. The first set of hand are tiny, little bitty fingers tiny. But for the ones, we did a little bit called the robot rectal exam. He puts on these big steel rectangular fingers, with a lot of right angles. And Steveo really took one for the team. How does that work?

How does how does Steveau? Well, he's got to bend over. But does he raise his hand for that? Like, how does it go to Steve? Or do you guys? Are you picking out of a hat? Like how are you? Who's choosing Steve?

Jeff and I will, sometimes people will raise their hands for things. Sometimes the people will be written specifically for them. But for that, when we just kind of landed on stevo and jeff went and talked to him he's like yeah dude because stevo from the first movie refused to put the toy car up his butt because his dad was uh upset over it and and i think that really got under his skin so now he's putting everything up his butt so i mean i'm serious i'm not even joking just to really stick it to me yeah yeah yeah that was fun and

Adam Ray, the comedian, does the voice of the robot. And he's so funny. Shut on. Adam, baby. Yeah. Adam's super talented. He kills it. Yeah.

No, you guys did a great job with the robot. And like Traff said, the intro, very jackass intro, like on another level. I mean, I don't want to give away too much. I don't know what we can't give away. But if you love the jackass intros, you're going to love the intro for this movie. I will say being older now and watching it, I don't know how you feel, Johnny. I feel more of like a sense of. when I was younger, just laugh out loud, no care in the world for what's happening in this guy.

Now that I'm older, I'm kind of like, oh, man, why is he doing that? Like, there's going to be like, I feel like, I feel a sense of like, there's ramifications for these decisions. When I was drunk, I didn't think about that one bit. Well, the culture has changed so much, you know, uh, um, just there's so much more information on, like, concussions and this and that. And it, and it does make you think like, oh, man. I should have went to college, but I didn't. So I did what I had to do to support my family.

But I mean, I would honestly, I would still be doing all the stuff I did before had it not been for the last concussion at the end of Jackass forever. It kind of sent me offline for six months. And after that, the doctor said, you're done. And I talked to my kids and wife. And I said, look, I'm done. So, but had that not happened, I probably still would have been doing it. And I think ultimately it worked out for the best because, you know, you only got, you only get so many chances, I believe.

No doubt, no doubt. But I'm good now. And now we're talking about robot rectal exams. That's right. That's right. We can move on from that. It is just, sorry. I don't want to.

It is just crazy. I sometimes those things like, did you have a lot of concussions? Oh, I know. Travis had a couple of documents. I've been knocked out of a few games. Yeah, right, because you're like running up. You're like in the heat of it on the line. I can get blindsided a little bit different than Jason can.

Yeah. And having the ball could put you in some awkward positions. But I've been fortunate that I've only had a few. And yeah. You ever blindside Jason when he gets out of his truck? God damn it. I wish, man. I wish.

Hi. My name's Travis Kelsey. And this is the blind. side. Well, you do have one of the best football jackass moments of all time with Jared Allen. What was that like? Oh, man. He can hit.

Yeah, he can. And he's a nice guy. So before he was really having trouble, like he was feeling bad about what he was about to do. And Tremaine, he's a good man. Yeah. And Tremaine, who's very sympathetic, goes, your job is to murder Knoxville's face. and then he like saw that we wanted him to go full speed and then he got into it thank goodness it's like when i fought butter bean in the swap meet he showed up that morning i'm like butter bean i need you to go

full speed today he goes johnny i cannot do that i'm like i need you to go full speed he goes you don't got to beg me i said oh shit but it's not funny unless you go full speed you know oh no you got to go full send you can tell if it's not full speed and it's not real. Do you have a, which sport was the, the hardest hitter, the one that was the most brutal of all the sports specific ones you've done? Well, I think my career as a bullfighter has taken the most punishment.

Jason, is this, is this where your love for like running with the bulls started? No, I don't know. I don't know. I just, I, I think when we, we had a farm, we would go to in West Virginia and you see animals for the first time. And you see a horse and you see a cow and it's like jarring for how large those creatures are. Yeah. And bull riding watching it is just one of the most insane things you can watch.

So obviously seeing you go and do things that no sane human being would decide to go do. Like how do you get that in the back of your head? Like I would watch the cowboy poker stuff on YouTube and think that is insane. Yeah. And you would just be out there by yourself, like taking full on shots. Where did, where did your affinity of bulls come from? I love bulls. They absolutely hate you.

And really, they hate movement. They don't care about colors or anything like that. If something's moving, they want to make it stop. And that's all we need it. You know, it's like the perfect perfect. thing animal to shoot with because you're going to get footage. And I think a lot of my love for them comes from like all the great footage we've gotten. I know.

And like what was going to happen to me was kind of inconsequential, really. I was just wanting the footage. So, yeah, they're wonderful animals. They're so smart too. You can't like fake the same way twice with the bull because if you go, left that second time he's going to be sitting there waiting on you. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh, man. He had to learn the hard way. I know a lot about bulls and I kind of learned on the job. They're amazing. So you're going to run with the bulls? Is that what is that the idea? It's that is a life ambition of mine. There's been a bunch of guys

tweeting at me drinking beers. They won't stop drinking beers until I agree to run the bulls with them. I see you guys. I just want to let you know. I see your tweet. I really want to go. It's just trying to figure out the time where it works out. It looks like a, just so much fucking fun. I think you'll get some footage.

You got to be careful, though, because those Spanish bulls, they don't blunt their horns. They got swords sticking out of their head. Oh, man. Yeah. We have to go with some Kevlar. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The major arteries and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. You got to protect that gym dog too. That's the main thing to protect.

Oh, man. He's already got four girls. He's good. Yeah. It's save you on a vasectomy. That's right. It'll save me a procedure. So out of all the movies, do you have like a favorite one that you guys have done?

Or like, is it always just the one coming out is the focus and is the favorite? but um wow each of them are different to me you know the first one's like uh it's almost innocent uh compared to what it became uh the number two was our most unhinged one um it was everyone was just on their worst behavior at that time and i got super obsessed and wouldn't stop shooting even i was on weekends i was i had a cameraman following me around I was running into street signs and trying to jump parking meters. Just whatever. I was literally running into stop signs.

And they had an intervention to get me to stop shooting because I wouldn't quit. And yeah, I don't know. Each of them is special. But I think maybe number two is possibly the cast favorite. Of course, we love the one we have. coming out but um it was just a lot of and it the the the behavior got worse when the cameras were off just a rowdy bunch did you always feel like you had to one up each other was that kind of like the the running bit amongst everyone so I didn't want to do uh uh yet the answer is yes

but it it comes out of a place of competition I didn't want to do a second movie because I thought, how would we top the first? And that got in my head to the point where I was like, we're done. And, uh, but Tremaine, the director goes, you don't have to, we don't have to top it. We just have to be funny. Right. That made me relax. And, uh, then I felt like that was the, I got past the block.

So, but yeah, if someone gets a great bit. the other guys are like, I need a better bit, which is great for me because I produced this turkey too. How much stuff ends up making it inverse not me? Like, how many bits are you guys doing? How do you decide what makes it into the movie? Is that all, is it strictly your decision or is this you in Tremains? Is this? Well, Tremaine, Spike and I will make those decisions.

and we always overshoot because you never know it's going to work. You'll take a high concept idea which you think this is going to be gold and it doesn't turn out at all. And you'll take another idea, a non-idea. Somebody go get a tube of super glue and bring it back to set and you'll get an amazing bit just with that because it just depends. So and sometimes you'll have bits. that are similar in the same movie and you're like, well, we can't use both of those.

Or we'll have too much gross stuff or too much blunt force trauma or too much of this. So we kind of spread it all out. I got to talk to you about one of your most iconic bits. Did you think that bad grandpa would turn into what it is? Oh, my God. Talking about anxiety. I, uh, we, we, we, we, we pitched two movies to the, uh, studio that day. One bad grandpa and another, it's a karate film with Willie Nelson. And we wanted them to not pick bad grandpa. It was with, uh, the broken lizard guys and Willie Nelson. We wanted to do that film. And then they picked bad grandpa. And you've never seen three guys walk out of a studio who just got a movie greenlit, more depressed. Because it's going to be hard, right?

Because the whole movie's predicated on reactions. And it's like, what if we get nothing? I'm going to have to, we'll have to turn this into a jackass film. And then it had a story. But we figured it out. And, you know, I had to sit through makeup like three hours each day. And I was bummed about that. But after the first day of shooting, we got good stuff.

Didn't make the film, but we got good stuff. and I used the time in the makeup chair to prepare for the day. And again, all my anxiety went away after that. And I was like, we got this. So bad grandpa, oh, man, that was, that was, that was fun. It was my dad's favorite thing we ever did, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My old man loved bad grandpa.

Irving's a real, he's a dirty old man. Did you get it? Any inspiration maybe from your dad? Oh, yeah. My dad was kind of like, there's a reason I became what I did. Because my dad would, he would prank his friends all the time, you know, with making, he had a tire company and he would make his employees ex-lacks milkshakes or he would send them letters from the health department saying they contracted a venereal disease. and it would be on rubber-stamped VD Clinic on the letter, signed Dr. Harlan C. Tittmore,

and people would go to the health department with this letter. Or the wives would meet the husband. The wives and the wives' mom would meet the husband when he got home from work that day. It was a joke letter, right? But the wives would be upset. One guy pulled a gun on him for it. And he would also stage gun fights at his Christmas.

party. Gosh. At a Christmas party. Yeah, he would have two guys getting to fight. He's like, okay, now you guys, when we get in a fight, and then you're going to start, pull out your guns and start shooting. And then everyone runs out into the street. So the next year, there's two new guys.

He goes, hey, guys. So you guys are going to start fighting, and then you're going to pull out your guns and start firing at each other, and it'll scare everyone, you know, out of the party. So they did. what dad told them to do and they pulled out their got blank guns obviously and start firing each other but dad had given everyone else in the party blank guns so they fired at those two dudes and those two dudes ran off oh my gosh yeah oh this all adds up this all adds up what does your dad have a if bad grandpa was his favorite bit what was your dad's least favorite he didn't like when i did

stunts my my family didn't like to watch me do stunts because of the you know I Um, because, you know, I go night night sometimes. We're going to do a quick round of jackass superlatives. Oh, shit. Yeah. That will be quick because there's probably two. All right. All right.

Worst idea. Worst idea. Oh, the, for a special we owed the MTV, we owed three specials usually when we're promoting. And I had an idea to. do for the first movie a town hall where everyone can ask all the guys questions because we were in the news a lot for copycats and everything and not only did all the guys show up wasted me too like I supplied the booze most of the pills and it was just a shit show like the guys

were answering the worst questions possible to whatever they The town asked. Kurt Loder moderated it. And at one point, Dave England, who's wasted, keeps jumping off the stage. And we're like, Dave, we stopped three times, Dave, you've got to stop jumping off the stage because you're getting close to people. You cannot do that.

Okay. Okay. 30 seconds later, he jumps off the stage, bumps the podium. And the podium bumps into a lady. And she falls back on her. She was fine, but it was horrible. Like, what, what do you tell you?

Anyway, long story short, our first movie cost $6 million. That lady sued MTV for $7 million and got her money. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So that was a pretty bad idea. Yeah, yeah. It was like more of a series of bad ideas. How can I make this?

this worse. Compound idea. Compound. Who wants some pain pills? What do you think your proudest moment on Jackass was? That I did this with my friends. I created something with my friends. And we've been through so much together.

And that's my, I think that's my most proud moment. That and making history with the robot rectal exam, you know. Yeah. Yes. Guinness book. Hey Jason, I'm just spitballing here. I have the robot from the movie.

And what do you think? Hello, my name's Jason Kelsey. And this is the robot rectal exam part do. What do you think, Jay? I still haven't had a human rectal exam. I need to go experience that one first. I mean, then it's a no-brainer, right, Travis? Yeah, you don't know what you don't.

know. All right. Moving on, do you have a skit that didn't hurt as bad as you think? Do you thought going into it? You know, I'm kind of somewhere else when all that's happening. Yeah. Usually afterwards, it'll hurt. You know what hurts?

Like, because sometimes you just, like a bull runs you over or butter bean knocks you out. You're just, you're snoozing. So, but I tell you what sucks is pepper spray. It just, it's the ad for 20 minutes. It's the worst feeling. And then you get home later that night, you shower, and it just starts up again. Reups.

Yeah. So, yeah, pepper spray did hurt. I've had a little taste of that. That was. Yeah, it sucks. I didn't sign up for it, though. Um, what about a skit that, uh, you couldn't believe they let you do? I, I, I think, uh,

When Dunn stuck the little toy car up his ass in the first movie, we're all real proud of that one. Getting those x-rays back? Oh, my God. That lady who first looks at the x-ray, that look on her face. And that doctor was, you couldn't cast a doctor that was better than that dude. I don't remember eating this. Oh, I don't think you ate that.

Well, how do you think you got to? Maybe you stuck it up your ass. Oh, my God. That guy was amazing. Oh, my gosh. Is there a stunt you just, you never got to do that you always wanted to? Well, there's a, we have a list of like a few hundred pages long of unshot ideas. but I think the two of the ones at the top

I always wanted to get a jackass flag on the moon I'm still trying and Dave England who the aforementioned Dave England who cost via comp seven million dollars only has one nut and we always wanted to get him like a new nut and we decided we want to get him like a new nut and

we decided we want to get I'm a new nut that lights up. And we did. And for 15 years, we've been trying to do it. And the last second, the lawyers always kill it. And I can show you, I can maybe show you, oh, it's off. But my, our special effects makeup guy who does the makeup for bad grandpa, he can build anything.

And he made a nut that for Dave. and because we were that close this time. And put like a battery in that thing or what? Yeah, let me see if I can turn my phone on just so you can see how fucking bright. Dave was going to be on fire. That one, I'm still upset over. That's, that would have been one of my favorites. I already know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have a Knoxville quote you hear all the time? Which one is the one that you get thrown at you the most? Um, probably. is it's either get out of my bar or is butter bean okay yeah my personal favorite

I've got Bersitis is one of my favorites that is that that fucking golf I didn't even know what that was and now I have it I actually have it so I got I got what I deserve It comes full circle. Yeah.

I didn't say I got chlamydia, you know, because it gets full circle. In your mind, what's the greatest stunt of all time? Ooh. Like you mean stunt or prank. Yes, yeah, my best. Yeah. Yeah, I think the high five was pretty great. The silence of the lambs from Jackass Forever when we turned out the lights.

and started tormenting the guys. And another bit from the end of Jackass Number 2, which didn't age so well was the terror taxi bit when Aaron puts on the dynamite vest and, you know, I forgot about that one. Yeah, we didn't put that one in because it's like, maybe I didn't age so well. Yeah.

I don't know if you can see, but can you see. Can you see? Yes. This is going to be the nut. Way, he's going to put it under. This is what it would look like in someone's nut. He's getting ready to turn it on. Stick with me.

Okay, that's the nut sack. That's the... Oh! Stop! Dave would have freaked the fuck out. Yeah, it's tough. Like to not, that didn't make, we couldn't do it. And I still, it bugs me so bad.

The fact, Dave would have been down with that. It's hilarious. I mean, it's not over yet. I mean, it's, it's still there. It's, you know what? Who says, who knows? I may need three nuts myself. All right.

we're going to do this. We got to ask section. Jackass is officially 25 years old. What advice do you have for parents who might have been taking their kids to see this for the first time? Well, I guess they'll be 18, 17. Well, you know what? I guess I hope they like butthole because there's a lot of butthole in this movie. In the last movie, it was all about penis.

This one's more butthole. So just have a good conversation with your kids that it's okay. We just be accepting of the human body. All shapes and sizes. Who cares? What's almost as iconic as like your intro and the sound is just the warning page. Did you have to like have a legal team do this? Or was this kind of just like, yeah, the warning sign has to be there.

So I'll just go ahead and mock this thing up myself. Yeah. The network did say we got to do something because we were, you know, really kind of going for it. And so, yeah. But, yeah, it's become such a part of the show. And I think it's become a part of a lot of other shows, too. And today or tomorrow I'm taking a crack. I'm like, you know, we do the jackass comes out in different countries.

I'm going to try to do the warning in different languages. and just my dumb hillbilly ass trying to do the warning in French is, you know, you know how good that accent's going to be. Yeah. I'm notorious for failing French, man. That language is rough. Yeah. How many pairs of testicles has jackass franchise ruined?

Oh, my God. Testicles, marriages. We've ruined about everything. Would you ever not laugh at someone getting hit in the nuts? It's reflexive. You have no control. I have no control over it. Or something, someone falling down, you know, I just like, if they're close to me, I'll laugh and then help them up.

It's just, I can't help it. It's the best. I mean, do you guys, can you guys handle it if, can you guys not laugh if your friend gets hit in the nuts? we we went up so i'll give you this johnny i climbed mount kilimanjaro and we're coming down the mountain and my one buddy bow allen is just sitting in the rocks like pouting his shirpa has left him and he's just like really it's taken its toll the altitude at this point i'm laughing my ass off at that i get to the bottom of the hill bo finally gets to the bottom of this like part of the mountain and he proceeds to vomit everywhere.

And I proceed to laugh uncontrollably at my friend vomiting. And somebody else looks at me. This is when I knew I was an asshole. Somebody looks at me like he could be like he could be really messed up. And I'm like, yeah. Oh, I didn't even think about that. I just was laughing. I thought this is hilarious.

You're right. Let me help him up. Yeah. No, it is reflexive for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can't help. I just,

what happened between Bo and his Sherpa. Why did it end so badly? He just sat down and the Sherpa kept telling him like, hey, come on, let's go. Like, he's like basically like, why are you taking so long? You need to get your fat ass down this mountain. And Bo's just sitting in the rocks pouting like a, I mean, it's a 300 pound noseguard who's just sitting in the rocks like a toddler. Bo is being a drama queen.

Yes. Essentially is what happened. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So yeah. No, that is, I think you're right. I think it's completely hilarious.

Anytime somebody gets sitting in the balls. you you spawned an entire generation of just men ball tapping each other like that was just the thing to do we would just be what we'd be running out to practice going for a high five and when the guy put his hand up you'd slap him on the balls and that was just a thing to do yeah you go high do the high low it's just well I was programmed to do that by my father and I had older sisters who were eight and 10 years older. So from like the age of three and four, I was programmed to just just nail people in the nuts. I was like their little robot. So it's their fault. Do you have a welcome to Hollywood moment? Welcome to Hollywood moment. Um, well, I, I remember auditioning for this thing when I got to

Hollywood for I was like 21 and after after the audition you know they give you feedback and then the casting directors like you ever think about going into construction and I was like oh shit you that's not what you want to hear and then so about six months later I'm looking for a job and I I do in fact apply for a construction job and got denied because I had no spirit. So I'm like, now what am I going to do?

I can't act. I can't do construction. Holy cow. That's great. Welcome to Hollywood, baby. That's right. Welcome to Hollywood. It's hard to make it.

You got to find your niche. Got to find it. All right. Well, with this last film coming out, have you thought and reflected it all on, you know, what jackasses meant culturally and like, how things have shifted since.

I mean, you guys have been doing it for 25 years. How much has changed? Like, how much has changed over those 25 years? The internet, social media, like all these things. And I don't know. It just feels like that was kind of a launching off moment where a lot of things shifted. People started recording themselves more. Things started going on the internet.

Yeah. I honestly, I don't like I appreciate obviously. for a man with my limited education, how this is all worked out. But as far as what, and that it means something to people means the world to me. But what it means culturally, I don't spend a lot of time on that because I have no control over that. You know, it's kind of, it's out there. So I can only focus on what I do. I'm glad that it means so much, but I can't.

spend too much time thinking about the other part of it. Makes complete sense to me. Makes complete sense. Makes something really fun with a bunch of buddies, do it for 25 years. Other people like it and that's enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And, you know, you get paid and that's good. Of course. You make a good, good on the hard working living. There you go. Better than construction? Yeah. Well, I'm unqualified. so I can't answer.

You would never, you'd you be hard pressed to meet a man who's less mechanically inclined than I am. Well, Jackass is meant so much to not only our childhood and our like group, friend group growing up, man,

we can't fucking thank you enough for the memories, all the fucking countless laughs that are still fucking going on today as I, as I watch this new movie. be best and last jackass best and last ladies and gentlemen in theaters june 26 you're not going to want to miss this one johnny knoxville man thank you so much for coming on the show dog thank you fellas i really appreciate it johnny you're the man brother thank you all righty thank you to johnny knoxville

um dude what a fucking legend what an absolute legend it's just so fucking cool we get to actually have conversations and ask them about the beginning of it and how it all came about and where it's at now. And I bet you it just keeps going. I mean, I understand that it might be the last one that Johnny does and it might like change the name or whatever. But they got some new faces and some people that could really carry the torch, man. Yeah, I'm sure they do. I do think that Johnny is a unique.

It's too good. It's too good. Yeah, but I think I think Johnny's a unique figure. Like, where do you find a guy? I hear you. I mean, he was just born. to do this. Yeah.

Right from the opening scene of the movie when he shoots himself in the fucking chest with a loaded gun. I mean, he's a maniac, but he's like lovable and like gregarious. Just the best. You can tell like everybody has brought so much to that universe and that world. But, you know,

Knoxville is just such a freaking unique figure that really kept that thing together for so long. Hell yeah, he is. Shout out to these guys and shout out to Johnny for perhaps their last, Jackass, the best and last. Make sure you check that out. Once again, that conversation was brought to you by Mentos Gum. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights.

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92% for tuning in every single week. Wow, you really shot the moon on that shirt today, Jason. Jesus Christ, I knew it. I was giving you a compliment. Geez, Louise. God damn it. He's got so insecure about his shirt. The seasons are changing.

The seasons are getting brighter. The whorehouse called. They want their drapes back, Jason. Just kidding.