New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Kylie's Perfect Mother's Day & Rory McIlroy on Masters Win, Shrink The Game & Golf Dad Tips | Ep 190

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Adobe Acrobat!  On today’s episode, we’ve got updates on our live show, the NDQ book, the return of Beer Bowl, and Travis and Jason break down some highlights from NFL Rookie mini-camps. We’ve also got Kylie Kelce joining us to talk about the perfect Mother’s Day and answer your questions about mother/daughter relationships, if Mother’s Day counts if you’re expecting, Kelce House rules, and if pet moms count. And finally, we are joined by back to back Masters Rory McIlroy! We find out how he’s feeling after the huge win, his process to repeat at Augusta, how he’s changing the Champion’s Dinner for next year, what he thinks about “shrinking the game,” how to get your kids into golf, his Mt. Rushmore of golf courses, Devil Wears Prada cameo, and more! You can still pre-order our book “No Dumb Questions” at https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/nodumbquestionsNew Heights will be Live in Los Angeles at The Orpheum Theatre on June 15th. General Tickets go on sale April 27th. https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/09006491EE43FB93Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowYou can also listen to new episodes on Wondery, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. ...Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwSend something to the New Heights Mailbox. Don’t be weird though. C/O New Heights Productions135 E OLIVE AVE, BURBANK, CA 91502Support the show: ADOBE ACROBAT: Adobe Acrobat transforms your documents into shareable, AI-Powered PDF Spaces with access to easy content creation and trusted PDF tools that help you take any project from idea to done. Learn more at https://adobe.com/dothatwithacrobatMENTOS: Refresh the Everyday with Mentos Chewy Mints. Shop Now!EXPEDIA: The one place you go to go places. https://www.expedia.com/ SLEEP NUMBER®: To a good life’s sleep™. Visit a Sleep Number® store or learn more at https://sleepnumber.com. Rated #1 as America’s Best Mattress Brand for Customer Satisfaction by J.D. Power in 2025. For J.D. Power 2025 award information, visit https://jdpower.com/awards.PLANET FITNESS: Best-in- class equipment and a space for every kind of strength. We're All Strong on this Planet™ Learn more at http://planetfitness.com/ALLSTATE: Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://allstate.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I went to a girl in the goat. The restaurant Travis took you to and did not eat goat at. It is a fantastic restaurant. Nice. You get some goat nuts. Yeah, Travis, you're wrong. That place rules. It's so good.

Didn't say I hated it. I just didn't try it. I wasn't in for goat. I had peanut butter and jelly pancakes, which is the fattest thing I've done in months. And it was so, God-B-B-Gone. That's the most non-goat thing air. It was a brunch.

There's no Greek brunch options. Ooh, Chila, Kela's was really good, though. That's not Greek either. But, boy. Do you think if we went back that you would be more experiment? I feel like, and we won't use this in the episode, but I feel like Taylor has definitely expanded your... I got to use it.

We can fucking use it. That's nothing wrong with that. I feel like... Have you grown up? He's more adventurous of food. Yeah. I'm trying to act like one of the men when I'm around her and eat foods I haven't tried before.

She does the little airplane noises I like it. Boom. Boom. That's a clip. Welcome back to new heights. Ladies and gentlemen, my boys and girls, a Wondry Show brought to you by Adobe Acrobat. We are your host.

I'm Travis Cuzzis. My brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Heights. Shout out to the Cincinnati Bearcats. Subscribe on YouTube wherever we get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the weekend. Man, we've got a good show coming up.

And Jason is going to tell you just how good of a show it is. That's right. How good of a show is it? Well, 92 says we got a great show lined up for you. We're going to be taking our first look at some Eagles and Cheese rookies that we've got all of a sudden out there in the social media landscape. Princess Cayana is here to answer some Mother's Day Heights hotline questions. And Roy McElroy is here. That's right.

The back-to-back Masters champion is in the house. It's going to be a doozy, but let's get into something first. As you all know, the first thing we always get into. A little bit of that. New News. New News is brought to you by. Mentos. Dun,

dun, dun, dun dun dun dun dun dun. I'll see if I'm going to do. Tickets still available for our live show in Los Angeles. The show is Monday, June 15. Nice. Link in the description.

Check it out. We are excited about this live show. It's going to be a lot of fun. Mainly highlighting the World Cup, but it's a chance to just be in front of the fans. And doing a live show always has that energy. Still trying to figure. some of that stuff out, is there going to be a goal on stage?

Probably is there going to be some shenanigans? Most definitely. Most definitely. Should you be there if you have time available and can afford it? Yes, it's going to be a blast. You're going to want to be there if you are a 92% or if you're not a 90% or you're probably still going to want to be there because we read some of it. Our book, No Dumb Questions, is still available for pre-order on Kelseyclubhouse.

com. How about it, man? The book comes out June 2nd. June's a big month. I bet this is going to be a book that does. those really well on the shitter. Like when you need to just like pass the time, put the phone down. We don't need more screen time.

Because if you're anything like me, you just sit on that phone. Then all of a sudden your shit turns into like a 30 minute shit. And then you and then, you know, I mean, it just. That's not good for your blood flow, Jason. Your feet start like tingling. It's not good for blood flow, man. I heard a lot of bad things happen to people that do that for over 30 minutes. Although it hasn't caught up to dad because dad used to read those.

Tom Clancy books for hours. It's a great spot for getting some reading done. And this is the type of book that would do well. I mean, there's not a lot of continuity with it. It's like a short stories. You know what I mean? It's a great book for the shitter. All right.

Do we want to announce Beer Bowl 2026? Yes, we do want to announce Beer Bowl 2026. Oh, nice. What are we doing with this right now? Using your phone while you poop greatly raises hemorrhoid risk. Well, listen, you want to know what greatly raises your hemorrhoid risk? Squatting. Squatting greatly.

much more than any amount of screen time on the toilet does. When you hold your breath with twice your body weight on your back, and you go, that's a good hemorrhoid risk, all right? I almost got a hemorrhoid watching you do that. Exerting gives hemorrhoids. Listen, high achievers have hemorrhoids, kids. I don't know what to tell you. You want to be a nothing in life, care if you get hemorrhoids or not.

If you're exerting so hard that part of your intestine comes out your butthole, you're fucking trying until they you haven't tried hard enough. I don't even know if that's what a hemorrhoid is. That's what I imagine it is. It's in that ballpark. All right, we also want to announce that Beer Bowl, 2026 is actually happening. That's right.

We've been debating it, whether to bring it back or not. And to be honest, it's just too fun to not do. We have to do it. It's a blast. You're going to want to enjoy it. It is always in that last weekend in June, last week in June,

before July 4th, We always have our OD event down the shore that Wednesday. Beer Bowl is always going to be that Thursday or Friday we're experimenting with. Either way, we are doing it again. For $50,000, if you want to be in the 2026 Beer Bowl, you need to submit a video as to why you should be in it and what your team name and theme is going to be. Those are the two things you must have.

Also, you need to be demonstrating your beer drinking abilities. Those are the three criteria of every video that you, submit this year is going to be all new teams with an opportunity to compete for $50,000. $50,000. The thing we're learning the most is sometimes when you start with elimination events, there's people that work up to just get there and they only get to do one event and then their time's up. This year, we're going to do multiple events in the first round, a point total, which will get you into the elimination round.

So we're going to try and make it so that everybody who comes gets to participate, which also means more action for the fans that are there to witness. It's going to be way more of a hassle for the production team. Good luck, Brandon, and Jets Jake and everybody else. But that's your problem. But it's going to be awesome. You're going to want to be there. It's going to be fun as it is every year. Hopefully nobody gets hurt like I did last year, tearing my hamstring.

Cooper to Gene will not be getting a hammer this year. Wait, won't be getting hammered or won't be given a hammer? Well, one of the events has been Hammershlogging every year, but Hammershlogging, it turns out, is a risk when you give drunken people hammers in the middle of a competitive event. So we're avoiding the hammers. Hammers are done. Nice. Also, I think we're going to have some fun shenanigans that garage beers participating with that will make the event inclusive, meaning even if you're not in beer bowl, you can be a part of raising some money for an awesome foundation and giving back. We also got first look at some rookies at Chiefs and Eagles mini camps.

Trap! Did you see any of these clips? Yeah, man. I was sitting at the house, so checking the film, man. I saw a bunch of stuff. Well, let's show some. I definitely saw some, some practice footage of some fucking madness in rookie camp. Oh, my gosh.

Look at him attack that bag. I can't fucking wait. Nice. Nice. Who doesn't love slow motion football, man? So that was R. Mason Thomas. second round draft pick. He's an edge rusher. So outside backer, like, kind of like, that like three four.

I mean, I'm just going to lie. I'm just going to put it out there. I hate the number. 34? I don't think. He was an outside backer? Well, yeah, good for him. It probably has some sentiment of value. But for me, as an unbiased media member and someone who knows nothing about this young man,

I don't like 34. Says, when do you like numbers? I hate numbers. Maybe I do like this guy. I hate numbers, but I can tell that he chose it, which makes me hate it even more. Like you're like, you're like equipment guy, just give me a number kind of guy. I'm either equipment guy, give me your number, or I'm going to wear this number in honor of like it, like, because I want to be that number of that position. 34 is like, what is a 34?

It's a 34 outside linebacker. What's a 34 number individual? I don't know. I just to ask R. Mason, what is a running back of sorts? Historically, yeah. Maybe a safety? Ooh, safety, yeah. Like, who could wear 20 to 40s?

I feel like it was like running backs and safeties were 20 to 40s back in the day. You ever seen this man tote the football? Are Mason Thomas? Yeah. You ever seen him run with the football? Come on. He's a running back too? He's got a nasty stiff arm.

Ooh, he's a dual-way player. I think last year he messed his hand me up, taking a fumble to the house. Ooh. And absolutely dragged a guy the entire way. Makes sense that he tore his hamstring. It was impressive. Can you gauge anything from watching? bag drills right there.

What are you seeing with this? Absolutely nothing. No, that's just fun content for the Chiefs to post. There's something about like D-Line drills in particular. I'm like, I don't fucking think that's working with a shit. They're over there working techniques,

but at the end of the day, either you're going to move this human being out of your way or you're not. Offense align drills definitely make a difference and the technique matters a lot. Yeah. But then I remember, Stefan was Nuski said to me one time he's like, do Watson D. Lyman, they're so terrified

doing their drills. They're like swatting your hands and like getting like all that. I'm like, I just feel like it always looks stupid. I don't, like it never feels like, it never feels like that when I'm actually pass blocking the guy or playing against them. All right, let's look at Peter Woods and Judge Jim. Big Pete, let's see it.

Peter Woods. Oh, no, no, I like that. I'm not going to lie. I like the way this look. The little burst, oh my God. I like, he gets fully extended just to hit a bag. You got to watch that left arm, though. That left arm gets a little hot. Right here, the left arm gets, that's head and neck area, Peter. We got to stay away from the head and neck area.

We got to swat the ball. He's trying to go for the ball. I know. We got to work that technique better. We got to work that technique better. I mean, I like the little burst after this one. He goes, ha, ha. I like it.

I like it, too. Is that 99? 99. A little Wayne Gretzkyy at you? Wing Gritzky. Peter Woods. He's telegraphing it a little bit, but pretty all-around fan of that kind of movement. Feet looked good to be that big, too, man.

I like it. Nice and quick. All right. All right. Emmett Johnson. I think it was a fifth round running back. I think he was the best running back in the Big Ten this year. Are you saying statistically or actually?

Yeah, we saw him. He went to Nebraska. All right. Let's see. I just like when you're watching these drills with the bags, if their head can put wild they're moving their legs fast. Like the more, it's kind of like a golf swing. The more that upper body can remain independent

of the lower body when you're moving through stuff like this, to me that's a plus. That shows independent appendage usage. So you don't want arms? So you don't want arm drive? I like the arm drives in sync. I'm more talking about the head and shoulders. I feel like if you are like

very like this, that's not a good sign. If you are kind of stationary up top, all the legs are kind of moving all over the place. I like that. I think if you're going through that shift fluently and you're getting through it quickly, however you got to do it. That's a great point.

Nice L trigger right there in Madden. Nice jump cut. It doesn't look like he's fighting it. It doesn't look like he's aggressively fighting the turf. Who's the best running back you've ever seen that looked like they were aggressively fighting the turf, Travis? I got one name in mind. I was going to say that, well, he definitely does do that. I was thinking of somebody who has had slightly more production in the NFL.

Adrian Peterson. That's exactly who I was thinking. There are not many guys that look like they run that hard, translate into really good running backs in the NFL. I usually prefer smoothness to like fighting the turf. Adrian Peterson, Jesus. He had some thunder and lightning, for sure. That grass was pissed off after Andrew.

and Peterson ran on it. It wasn't like no gliding across it. He was fucking getting them cleats in the turf. Hopefully we'll see some more out of Emmett Johnson in the future. Also, Pat Mahomes is a freak.

Adam Schaefter. Patrick Mahomes is on track to participate in Kansas City's first OTAs. All right, Travis, where do you go? Where do you go? You go to Germany? Did he go to Texas? Oh, you're talking about that.

Yeah. Did he go to Germany? Did he go to Panama? No, he's just a hard. He gets some of those steps. Nope, he's just a fucking hardworking American man that was in Kansas City, fucking knocking out rehab and getting his fucking leg strength back. It's like my cousin, Vity.

Am I to believe that this man's PCL grows faster in his leg than in my leg? I think that's all dependent upon how you handle rehab. I think genetics also are. more differential than instant crits. Yeah. All right. Eagles fans hyped for Mackay Lemons shinn angle. What's this?

I have not seen this, Brandon. It's a good shin angle right there. Parallel. It is good shin angle. I mean, I do like the vertical shit angle, which is what this is kind of showing. Tell me if I'm off on this dress.

I like when you see more of the lateral ability to keep your foot in the ground and that shin going off to the side. Yeah, that's ankle flexion. That's ankle flexion. That's ankle flexion. Well, this is a form of angle flexion, too. It's just more dorsy flexion, whereas I like, in terms of changing direction, which to me makes a bigger deal on the football field is how well you can, like Travis has a great job of this.

I've always said he has gumpy knees. But a lot of it comes down to how well can he internally rotate his shins while his foot remains on the ground. And that's where you see a lot of guys slip is when they get too extreme and then their foot comes off the ground and they start slipping off the inside of those cleats. Yeah. But this is, I mean, anytime you are, you have good shin angles like this and good, like, dorsiflection, that's a good sign that you're going to be able to change direction very well. I mean, listen, yeah, that was one of the things you saw instantly on all the, all the film that you could see on Lemon in college.

Right. In college, his, his, his, him as an athlete, I mean, one of the best in the draft. The fact that he can get in and out of cuts, he's very, he's a strong-ass runner. and his separation on the top of routes is just so clean and pure and precise. So this is, yeah, this isn't like blowing my mind, but I do appreciate, you know, how good an athlete he is. No doubt. That's not blowing my mind because I would expect to see what I saw on film.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it makes sense. Last thing, Jake and Jason might not be friends in a week because we've got Knicks versus the Sixers in the NBA playoffs. I'll be watching the cabs versus the Detroit Pistons. Why not just watch both, Travis? Because I'm a fan of the cats. But you can watch.

So, you can just watch other teams because you like basketball. Yeah, you're right. I can, 100%. I'll probably watch the games that are at Madison Square Garden because it's the garden. Yeah, it's absolutely epic. And I can't wait to see all the social clips of the Knicks fans because it's every single year. I've been still around there for you. Oh, my gosh, hilarious.

I'm just talking about like the not even in the stadium, just like people on the streets talking shit, dude, it's hilarious, man. When the Knicks are fucking firing like they are right now, man. Doggone, I got to get to a game of the garden, man. The Sixers, I don't think many people thought they'd make it out of the Celtics leading up into that series. Obviously, they've playing pretty damn well. Paul George is playing really well and Bede is back. He's a force. Axi is unstoppable.

Knicks, I think they've been. beat a team by like 70 points or something. Yeah, the Knicks rolled the end of that series. And obviously Jalen Brunson being from the Villanova area, I know him very well. So like, you know, listen, I'm rooting for the six years, but I also like watching Brunson play. So, but yeah, at the same time, fuck you, Jake. All right. That's different new news.

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And these are the memories you look, and also saved the day by telling them that I wasn't in the backseat. Yeah, but I waited until we were on the freeway to tell them. Yeah, you waited a bit. You wanted to see dad run on the shoulder of the interstate back to the rest stop, which I get. But yeah, these are the fun things you can expect to experience. when you are on a family vacation, and it's only going to be made easier with Expedia. Here's the thing about planning a family trip. It gets complicated fast. Everyone's got different schedules these days, different ideas, but Expedia's got you covered. It sure does, but when you bundle,

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Travis is the one handling this, it looks like. Oh, okay. Oh, no. Don't put that pressure on Travis. I'm just doing what Brandon puts in the rundown. I am Ron Burgundy. 92 percenters! It's almost Mother's Day.

So we have a special edition of Heights Hotline. Brought to you by Expedia. Shout out to Expedia. And here to help us answer your motherly questions is the host of the Webby Award-winning podcast. Oh, the greatest podcast in all the land. Not going to lie. Kylie Kelsey, come on in. What of America's favorite mothers.

Pretty hard hard. Gotcha. Happy early Mother's Day. Thank you. You guys are going to do something special? Jason. No. Jason?

Yeah, we always do something special on Mother's Day. Okay. You're sending yourself up, bud. You better start playing. Well, that leads us to our first question. What would be a perfect Mother's Day for you, Kylie? Dream Mother's Day. I don't know.

Last Mother's Day was great. We got some brunch, and I love brunch. Ooh. What else? Just literally. Literally. Let me write this time. Brunch.

B-R-U-S. Act like I'm not here. Just make me disappear. Okay, brunch. Brunch? I don't know. Back rubs? From you?

I got bad hands. You know that. That's why I wanted clarity on the situation. I scratched Ellie's back last night and she was like, Dad, why does it hurt? Why do your fingernails hurt, but mom's fingernails feel good? Jesus, Jason. To be fair, his fingers don't bend anymore. I literally, a week recently called his hands man mitts.

He's just walking around like this everywhere he goes. You should see him try to do the girl's hair. His fingers don't bend. He goes like this to the top, like this, to the top of our head. Like, he's doing his palms. Isn't that what you're supposed to do? Sure. All right.

So what else do we got? We got brunch. What about breakfast and bed? I heard some women like that. No. No. I don't want food in bed. Okay.

No breakfast in bed. I want silence. Silence. I want silence. That's going to be a tough one. Yep. That's going to be a tough one. I want it.

I want 20 minutes of silence. We can do 20 minutes. We just go outside. We can do that. Who's we? You're noisy. You say inside. No, we.

No, we all go. We all go outside. No, no. I go outside and you stay inside. So a perfect day. Day is Kylie outside. Okay. Yes.

Thank you. Kylie outside. Kylie outside. All right. A little bit of quiet. So a brunch picnic? No. No.

I want food that I don't have to clean up after. Got it. Okay. So brunch at a restaurant and then I want 20 minutes outside. So you just want to go to park? What? One of the two. All right.

Perfect. Same as usual. Got it. Yeah. I'm the worst person to ask girl questions too because I am a creature of habit. I want to go to the same places. I want to get the same food. I'm not the person to ask.

See, like, I would be fine if you just did. What did you used to do? Candles and earrings. That wasn't for Mother's Day. That was a Christmas thing. Oh, perfect. Okay. Nice.

But you're against candles now, though. Well, just because he is. I am. I burn them when he leaves. All right. Well, we have some 92% of voicemails that they have asked us about Mother's Day, and we figured we'd bring you in as our resident expert mother. That sounds like.

Do you want to pick some of these? I'm picking one? We're going to pick a few. Oh, can you just pick then? Okay, let's do wish girls understood about their moms. Oh, no. Hi, my name is Sarah. I'm from North Carolina.

I'm not a mom, but I am a teenager. Seems pertinent for Mother's Day. And from a mom's perspective. It's less husband attacking and more just... What is something that you wish girls understood about their moms that we probably don't realize? Love y'all. Love you, too. Love you.

All right. You remember what it was like to be a teenager? Yes, I do. Trash. And I remember that you have told me that most daughters in the teenage years struggle with moms. Yes. So I can only speak to my... experience with my mother because I do realize that I lucked out. My mom is a low lease's top tier.

That's a lease. Happy Mother's Day, Lisa. My concern is that, so this, this applies to great moms. I don't, I don't, I know that that's not everyone's situation. And I'm sorry that some moms fall short. I know that that's some people's experience. But what I will tell you from my own experience is that I felt strongly that when I turned, let's call it 15, that my mom was plotting against me. I swore it up and down. I thought for sure that one was trying to take me down. It makes sense. It's a good theory. When I turned 22, maybe 21. Let's say 21. Okay. Let's call 21. I had a moment where I was like, oh, she's been on my team the whole time. Yeah. probably number one fan if we're being honest.

Let's be seriously. So what is what caused you to think that she was trying to ruin your life? That she was trying to tell me what to do. And as a teenage girl, I thought, I know better than you. Which is ridiculous. Like what time to be home? Like the curfews. That, no, I was, I didn't even go out.

So what are we, what are we talking about there? There was a moment in time where I was potentially going to switch schools and she was advocating for that because I wasn't happy with. with like classmates and and that sort of thing. And I was more, less classmates and more class. I was not excelling academically. Ah, gotcha. Yeah, but that doesn't mean school's bad.

That's what I'm saying. The school, great. When I leave the school, you want me to do homework? That's weird. Yeah. You do the work at the school. You just have me for seven hours. And if you didn't get out of me then, I can't help you now.

That's how I felt about it. Like my mom never brought work. home. She did all of her work at work. Thank you. So Lease was advocating for you to leave schools or advocating for you to just do your home. We were exploring other options for me to potentially go to a different school that could help me academically. Is this like one of the Jason Daniel? I don't know where to go from me. I think that's great advice. Moms are always We can go to the next voicemail. We can go to the next voicemail.

Let's go to the next voice. Show me the list. I'm done with him picking. I thought it was a fun one. I thought it was a good one. And that's good advice for all teenage girls out there. They might not be rooting against you. Let's see.

First Mother's Day. Brandon likes that one. I don't think this one's going to be good, but let's go. Me neither. Let's go. Hey, guys. I have a new father Mother's Day question here. Is my wife is currently pregnant, but the baby is.

here yet, do I still have to get her a Mother's Day gift? No, don't tell her about that. This is again where like girl questions, I'm Nevada. I would say no, the baby's not here yet. What I do think is that if you want to do a little something, maybe like flowers or something small and be like, I can't wait until next year when we can celebrate your first official Mother's Day, that's a great segue, let's say.

But I don't think that I don't, I don't check some diapers. Those tits are still intact. You got a lot of, you got a lot of miles stones to overcome. What did you just say? Did he just say your tits are still intact? That's my wife. He said, hell, I'm just being honest. This is what happens.

That's my wife. Your tits are still intact. Tell Emily, I'm so sorry. I will. Thanks, Guy. I appreciate you being on that side of the debate. That is not what I thought was going to happen. I know that's why I'm saying

I'm bad at girl questions. God, I can't believe you just reference Jake's, I can't believe that you just said that. Go with your heart, man. I wasn't saying about Emily. I was just saying it like holistically. Well, I mean, your tits are still intact.

To be fair, I really, I really resonate with that sentiment. My tits are no longer intact. That's where I thought the burn was. I thought the burden was more of an attack on you. Well, I agree with those. All right. All right.

Let's do another voicemail. What's another good one? I want a specific Kel's household rules. If you get into specific Kelsey House rule, the problem is you're about to get bleeped. Jason's going to get bleeped. Oh, here we go. My no dumb question is for Kylie, who I understand is going to be on the Mother's Day podcast. My question is this.

Kylie, what's a very specific Kelsey household rule? that exists purely because of something Jason or Travis did once that can never be allowed to happen again. Why are you talking that way? I don't even know what she asked. Her question was, what is a Kelsey House rule that is in place because of something that the two of you have done? We didn't really have that many like house rules. Yeah, I think that's why they assume that there are rules related to. the stories I heard. She's asking Kylie if, I think she was asking more if you implemented

rules because of stories you've heard. That's what I thought the question was. Yeah. So you didn't understand it either. All right, cool. No. Um, something like that. What are the rules of the house? Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. I don't know. There are things that I would never allow to happen because of stories I've told that I've been told. Oh, interesting. Okay, for instance. No one's playing in the car. What are you talking about when Travis drove it through the garage? Or when someone took a dump in the trunk? Again.

Those Travis. Yeah, both of those are. Those are both. Travis did not. You know what? Travis went potty in the bathroom. I mean, as I've seen with Wyatt, it is now clear to me that watching Wyatt just tell her younger sisters what to do and egg them on.

Don't get me started. Do not get me started. Very accurate as to that she's your child, that she is your child. That's what that is. All right. What other ones? What other rules? I have taken into consideration how our knives are stored.

Because we used to throw knives in the air. Who's way? Who is way? Well, the only known stories of me, but I'm pretty sure Travis was doing it too. I got in on some of that fun for sure. Did you? What? I'm locking them in a safe.

Who doesn't want to throw knives in the air? Yeah, it sounds like a blast. You ever seen Ninja Turtles? Oh, Jesus Christ. In our preschool endeavors, I have made it a point to make sure that the teachers know that I'm siding with them. I'm trying to hedge our bets to not get kicked out.

Nice. Our parents sided with teachers. No, they didn't. Your dad literally said, when it came to the sport game, that they should have been watching you better. Well, I mean, they should have. I mean, he was just being honest.

They screwed that up. They were like kids play with silverware all like without any type of sports. I remember mom literally like vouching that, you know, that we were right the majority of the time we were in trouble. Oh, like when the stories of Jason fighting are always that he was, he didn't start it, he was finishing it. Or he was standing up for somebody else. That was the, that's the other big.

One of those times I was. One of the 72 times I got in a fight. There was a girl that was being picked on or I thought that. It turned it out that they were playing together. But I thought she was being picked on. And I thought I was protecting her. You thought you were a teenage. Which was what I was told to do.

Exactly. Jason, is there a rule that you feel strongly about in our house that, oh, I can hear our kids. That's that way. What's up? Is there a rule, like a house rule that you feel strongly about in our house currently? I don't even know. Do we have rules?

I mean, we have a couple. The rule that I would like to change is the puppy is to be in the bed right now. I don't know that's a rule. I just want that thing out of the bed. It is quite cuddly at times and it's very nice. But my allergies are affected. I literally said today that you know. needed to take us or taste yeah it's getting bad what else i don't know that there's i will say that uh

rule that i've brought from my own like my house growing up my rule that you guys do not follow is mcdevids that i get sometimes a little bit up like a little upset is when the girls aren't eating their food is my ed kelsey comes out and they're going to fucking eat that food and i'm not no ifans or buts they're not they if they want to leave the table they will No, they're not going to. Travis, as the resident picky eater, do you agree with that method? Yes, 100%. Yeah.

That's right. And I had to eat the shit I didn't want to eat. Oh, it. I get it. I'm with it, though. We have implemented a rule. You will be thankful. Yes.

There are starving children in China. He hasn't hit that one. He hasn't hit that one. That one doesn't really work anymore. It's a thriving economy. We don't need to stay there as starving children in America. We have implemented a rule that Jason doesn't like, which is you have to taste it,

but if you don't like it, you don't have to eat it. No, because then they can just, because there's the stubborn part of Jason's side of like the kid that's going to be like, I don't like it already. As soon as I touches my fucking palate, I'm going to spit it out and be like, I hate it. And then they won.

So they won before they even taste it. You got to understand, guys. These kids are half Kelsey. They're half Kelsey. If you get them any room for like, hey, I got, I can get some wiggle room here to do what I want and not have to listen to that or mom. We're going to take it. You got to lay down the law. Look at what, Wyatt is getting a little bit.

She's getting a little aggressive in some of the things she does. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, but Benny bitter yesterday. So. That's right. She's half Kelsey. She knows.

Yeah. The worst part is Benny bit Wyatt because Wyatt took something from Benny. And then when Wyatt goes, you don't even care that she bit me. I said, obviously I care.

I sent her to time out. And Ellie goes, that's because that was karma. And I was like, oof, I've said that too many times. She's figuring it out. That's too good.

Yeah. I was like, okay. Let's do another voicemail. What else do we want to? get into. We can't do do pet moms count because Jason's... We can do it.

Jason's going to disagree because the dog's living in the bed. Disagreements are good. Disagreements are good. Hey guys, this is Andrea from Casey and I wanted to know your opinion on Mother's Day when it comes to someone having pets

and animals because I have, for example, three pet pigs Gus, Georgie and Frankie and if I say like Happy Mother's Day to me and my four children. Then I get told to sit back down because I don't have skin children, therefore I don't count. So what are your opinions on that? And do pet parents count on Mother's Day, Father's Day times?

Okay, first of all, can I come over? She said three pet pigs. Three pet pigs. I'm so in on that. Stop ducking the question. I love bacon too. I think you're, oh, God. I think pet parents count.

Do you think pet, are you being honest or are you just being nice to what you're doing? No, I'm being honest because. Some people can't have the kids. It's just not in everyone's plans to have human children. And so you are solely responsible for that being. Like if you are a pet parent, you are still solely responsible for that being. Now, here's where I think people are going to get a little offended. taking,

and their nipples are still intact. Fully taking into account, Jesus Christ, fully taking into account that being a pet parent is not as difficult as being a human parent. It is not.

Yeah, but 100% is that. But you're still solely responsible for the well-being of a being. Well, here's the thing. This is the problem. Who's celebrating the mother? The people who celebrate Mother's Day are the people who are either

like the husband or children. of the mom. Like that's who's celebrated. So like, yeah, if her pigs want to celebrate Mother's Day, go for it. I don't know what that looks like. She might have a spouse. I'm not going and celebrating Mother's Day for other. I'm celebrating.

I mean, it is for all moms. But it's more like you get celebrated by the people that you mother to. Yeah, and you mother to pets. So let him celebrate her. Okay. Okay. So whoever would like to celebrate you if you are a pet mom, whoever would like to celebrate you, green light.

or just not sure who's who it is. Whatever float your boat finds a lost remote. Yes. Oh, wait a minute. 1003,000 taught me that. Hey, you. That takes us back to Jets, Jake, because I'm pretty sure they have a pet. Jake has a dog.

We do. We have two dogs. Yep. So you're going to have to celebrate. So this year I have to celebrate, not the last five that we've had dogs. Can we not just be able to? Can we just make the same? statement that no, you don't get to celebrate Mother's Day if you are a pet mom.

I think that if you want to celebrate Mother's Day as a pet mom, go the fuck right on and do it. Do you think? It's a free country. You can do whatever you want, but I'm not going to partake in your imagination land. You don't have to. I don't know what this asked. Yes. That's the only reason she's asking.

She's asking if there's a permission of like. What was her name? Happy Mother's Day to the pig mom. Andrea, I believe. Thank you. Happy Mother's Day to Andrea. I think it's really cool that you have three pigs. I don't think you're a mother to the pigs.

I think I don't think you give yourself a mother's day though. Exactly. That's the only thing. If somebody wants to give you Mother's Day, I think that makes more sense. I'm not going to say, but again, do what you want. Because to be honest, I don't, I mean, are you going to put up your own banner? What's happening? I mean, people love to celebrate.

So celebrate, fuck it. Sure, fuck it. Go to brunch. Go to brunch with the pigs. Have a good old time. Give yourself 20 minutes outside alone. peaceful. Away from the face.

Away, yeah, away from the good. Nice. All right, well, thank you to Kai. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there, either pet or human moms. Kai, do you, before you get out of you, do you want to plug anything for not going to lie?

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Yes. It's pretty dope. All right, our next guest today is six-time major champion from Northern Ireland. He is a six-person to complete the Career Grand Slam and First European to do it. He is the two-time PGA player of the year, six-time Router Cup winner, and he just became. the fourth golfer ever to win the Masters and back-to-back years 92 percenters. Please welcome Rory McElroy! In time, we have another thing to announce.

Is today your birthday? Today is my birthday, yeah. Happy birthday, big dog? We got him on his birthday, baby. I wanted to spend it with you guys. Thank you. This is, I wish my first tea introductions were like that every single week. That'd be really nice.

Yeah, anytime you want, I will follow you wherever you go. and personally give you that one. Do you have any birthday plans to start there? What are you going to do? What's a glory birthday? It's sort of, I do. Yeah, I could have went up to Charlotte today. We're playing a tournament in the Truist Championship.

I could have went up there, but I decided to stay at home and spend my birthday with Erica and Poppy. We've got a few friends coming over later. So pretty low-key, but don't think 37's the biggest of birthdays. But, yeah, I'll, you know, I'll spend the time at home, which is nice. There you go, baby. Well, let's get to it, baby. Let's talk about what everybody wants to hear about back-to-back masters, dog.

I got to catch you on a Friday and Saturday. I saw you out there. I was fucking screaming it, baby. Back to back, baby. Let's go. Let's go. I heard you. Yeah, I mean, geez.

Have you touched the club since? I have. I have. I have. I'm like, you know, I did like a solid 10 days of like celebrating and joy in it. And then I was like, you know, I felt after last year, not that I got complacent, but I got a little like, you know, this thing that you've wanted to do your whole life and you do it. And then it's like, okay, well, what's next?

And I sort of went through that lull, I think that all athletes go through where it's like, okay, I've achieved the dream. I've achieved everything I've wanted to achieve. So I just didn't want to fall back into that this year. So I give myself 10 days. I celebrated it. I had a good time. But I've been practicing for the last, yeah, for the last 10 days. And, you know, there's still a lot of golf left this season.

and I feel like I'm in such a good spot that I don't want to, you know, I don't want to waste a couple months of the season like I did last year. So, but look, I've enjoyed it, absolutely. But, you know, I feel like it's time to lock back in. Where does this one rank compared to last years? I don't think anything will ever touch last year. You know, you're 17 years. You're waiting to do this thing.

And, you know, you get to the point and you wonder if it's ever going to happen. And then just the emotion and, yeah, I don't think anything will. top, just the euphoria of it all last year, but I think this year was like validation. Like I proved last year that I could do it at this place and then I go back and, you know, arguably without my best stuff, I mean, I built a really big lead over the first two days, but to get it done in the manner in which I did it, lost the lead on Sunday, came back, played really solid to get it done. I think just like validation on my part that, you know, this is this is where I should be. This is the level that I should be operating at.

I mean, it's also just a career, everything kind of came to moment, right? Because that was the last one you needed for the Grand Slam is like this whole thing that was just kind of hovering above you. I can imagine what that's like. I mean, Trav and I, I know we both have talked about when you win that Super Bowl, you really like flash back to like everything that you did. You go back to being like a kid again. Yeah. Thinking about all your first football clean and putting on the pads for the first times and you see it all come full circle, baby. Yeah, all of it.

And I think that, you know, it took me, it took me a while to process it all. You know, I've even talked about, you know, I dropped in my knees when I won that first one. And I get up and I turn around and the first person I see is my lifelong best friend, Harry, who's on my bag. Just like, it's just, like, you couldn't even write it. Like, it's just an unbelievable script. So there was a lot of stuff to process there. And it was my goal for so long. And, you know, finally it happened.

it was like I probably needed to give myself that time. And then this year is it's just, it's felt different. I, you know, I didn't even want to, I didn't want to do the, you know, going up to New York and doing the late night shows and doing the whole thing. I just, you know, I wanted to enjoy it with my friends, with my family. Yeah. And yeah, as I said, lock back in a little bit earlier than than I did last year. But all of the going up to New York and doing all that,

it's good for the game, man. And you're obviously been top of the game and one of the. biggest names to ever play for such a long time. So doing that stuff, you're kind of giving back to the game and letting everybody know that, yeah, there's somebody that just accomplished what only five others have done in the entire, like, history of this game. So it's a, I think that's always kind of needed, but I hear you on, on not wanting to, like, get back into that after this one.

Was there any, like, in terms of like before, though, was there any, like, prep that you did differently going into this one that you maybe haven't done in years back? Yeah, absolutely. So I actually, my last couple of events before the Masters in Florida, I tweaked my back a little bit. So I had to pull out of the event in Orlando. And then I probably played at, I don't know, probably 75% capacity at the players. So I took three weeks off leading into Augusta, I think more to get my body right. And then it gives me the opportunity to go up to Augusta. and prepare maybe more than anyone else in the field, which I actually got a little bit of shit for afterwards, which was weird. Trash on people for practicing. Go figure. I know, I know. I'm probably about that.

But I felt as prepared as I have going in there, even though I hadn't had any tournament reps. My game felt good. I felt like, you know, I'd spent so much time up there. I was so comfortable. But there's always a little bit of trepidation. And when you haven't played for three weeks competitively and you haven't had a card in your hand,

it's like those first few holes on Thursday, you're just trying to feel like how you feel in, you know, trying to play yourself into the tournament a little bit. So, but once I, once I got through like that first nine holes on Thursday, I felt I felt really good. And from then on, it was awesome. But yeah, I felt as prepared as I ever have going into that tournament. Nice.

Is there something about Augusta National that just fits your game specifically? Like we hear about these courses sometimes. I mean, it seems like you play well everywhere. I guess every course, Fitzroy. Yeah. Not quite. I've got every shot in his bag, yeah.

What is it that makes you so successful down there, you think? I think my experience. So I've been playing that tournament since 2009, since I was 19 years old. So, you know, I've played it. I think I've played the tournament 18 times. And it does. It sets up well for my game. I hit it high.

I hit it long. And I think over the years, because of the experience, I've just gotten to know the greens so much better and where to miss it. I mean, my short game won me this masters. You know, and even I didn't drive the ball particularly well, which is usually my strength. And I, you know, my recovery play and my short game is what won me of this.

So I think I proved to myself that I can win a lot of different ways. It doesn't always have to be about the, you know, long straight drives and overpowering a golf course. do it different ways. But I've always felt since the first time I played there that this was a course that sets up well for me. And, you know, I had the potential to do well there. But obviously, that's easier said than done. You need to go out there and hit the shots. And I feel like I was able to do that throughout my career, but I was never really able to piece it together for four days in a row. I'd have like three good days. And then I threw in a 75 or I, so, you know, the last two years,

I just, my bad days weren't that bad. And that's what, you know, I feel like that's what won me the tournament the last couple of years. Hell, yeah. Sure. Well, I know you said you caught a little bit of shit for the practicing too much, which is absolutely bogus. But I want to know, did you catch any shit for the Champions Dinner menu?

Did you get anybody coming after you saying that they didn't want to have this or that? I had a few people from the homeland. I made a quip in the press conference where I said, you know, people have asked me why I didn't do more of an Irish. theme and I said, well, I want to enjoy the dinner as well. So I got a little shit from back home for that. That's funny. So they were coming at me pretty hard for that at the start of the week.

Oh, that's too good. I mean, I think everyone enjoyed the dinner. I tried to do enough dishes that would like please everyone. And I'm a big wine guy. I collect wine and I have done for like the last 10 years. So the wine selection was something that was pretty important to me. Hell yeah. I'm Augusta National's wine cellar is one of the best in the world.

I think they have like 20,000, 23,000 bottles down there, and it's all just the best vintages from. I didn't even know what I had a wine. Yeah, that's ridiculous. You learned something about this place every time. So, yeah, I had access to that. So that was nice as well. Have you already started thinking about the next year's champion's dinner now?

Yeah, I went pretty, you know. I went pretty fancy this year. Like it's always on the Tuesday night. So I was like, I could just do like a Taco Tuesday or something. I don't know. Well, see, I haven't thought about it too much. But yeah, I felt like, you know, it's hot, right? The Champions Dinner, the way it's set up, you're sitting beside Ben Crenshaw is like the unofficial MC of the night. And then on the other side of you is the chairman, Fred Ridley. And it's, It's really nice. I mean, it's the spot you want to be in.

You're the defending champion. You know, and it's a big sort of long table, like both sides, like a U-shape. And at the bottom left corner, you've got Trevor Immelman and Adam Scott, and they just look like they're having the best time. Like, I mean, they are just having the night of their lives. And I said to Adam and Trevor that week, I said,

you know, if I don't win this year, that's right. I just saved me a seat down where you guys do. You're like, and then. I want to be on that end. And then Adam texting me after, he's like, well, it looks like another year that you've got to wait another year to sit with us. But it's an incredible night and like to be sitting in that room. It's a bit like, and Travis, you'll feel this,

you'll feel this year whenever you're sitting at your wedding. And you have all the people in a room from, like, it's so, it's amazing to have all these people in the same room from your childhood to people that you've, Like it's just, you're just sitting there and it's like surreal. It's like unbelievable. The only thing that I can compare it to is your wedding day because it's like all this collection of people in the same room.

It's like wild. I can't wait. As a golfer, it's the privilege of a lifetime. You got to give me your wine choice though. What are we doing our favorite kind of wine for a celebration? Where are we going? France, Bordeaux. Bordeaux.

Yeah, Bordeaux. That's my go-to. On it. deal. Yep, there you go. Simple. All righty. I know you're more of a wine.

I thought you'd be more of the Protestant whiskey up there in Northern Ireland. Is that? Bush mills, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm not, like, I'm not a big liquor guy at all. But I was thinking of doing like a certain cocktail with a bush mills in it just to try a little bit of a nod back home.

So I might try to do something like that next year just to appease all those people I pissed off. We're going to talk a little shrink the game. game if that's right with you. Shrinx, yes. Jason, Jason's been getting attacked. A very. Yes, you have.

Yeah. Did he ruin the part three? No, you, like, I thought you were very additive to the part three. Nice. You were very additive. Thank you. I do. I appreciate.

I mean, it's a part of me gets it because I feel like golf is growing more than ever. In any sport. The sport is exploding right now. And with that growth, I think in any sport naturally comes like, it starts to change of people that have been around. for a long time, are like, hey, I don't know that I like where it's going. And in a sport like golf that's so based in history and tradition, I think that the shrink the game movement isn't that surprising that it is happening with golf.

I think with golf at Augusta, too, in particular, it's like there's more tradition in history with that place than any other. So it's like the symbol of what golf has come from. But at the same time, I think the sport growing is good for it at the end of the day. It's just there's going to be this natural tug and pull of like, how do we grow this thing, but also celebrate and keep these, you know,

these what has been awesome and made golf special still a part of this change in having it progress and move forward all at the same time. Absolutely. Like I agree. Like I think it is. Like one of the one of the silver linings, at least for golf post-COVID, has been this explosion in the game.

And my thing is like, I think when people say, the game, they mean different things. To me, to me, what the real thing of growing the game is, is growing the participation in the sport, right? Getting more people to play the game. Like, I feel like, especially in the professional world, when, like, the PJ Tour world, when people talk about growing the game, they're talking about growing, like, the fan base

and growing, like, the people that watch the sport, which is a part of it. But I think growing the game is actually getting more people to play. Yeah. Like, I think that, you know, golf is a participation sport. Like, you want people to play. So, like, that to me, I'm doing if, if what ESPN did, for example, at the Masters, encourages people to go and play the game, I think that's amazing. Yeah.

I think that's absolutely incredible. And, yes, Augusta is very traditional in its ways, and golf is very traditional. But I don't think any other golf organization pushes the envelope as much as Augusta does, because, like, they had dude perfect, like doing all sorts of stuff on A Men Corner a couple years ago. Oh, yeah. And, you know, they've embraced what you guys did with the par three. And, like, they're always, like, you can't, like,

golf's demographic is old. How do we get it younger? And then if you get the young people in early, then they'll be in golf for the rest of their life. Like, that's a really good thing. So I'm not, I think there's certain values and traditions in golf that should stay because I think it teaches young people good lessons, like whether it be like fall.

Like look at Cam Young yesterday, calling a penalty on himself at the route. 100%. Like that stuff is really important. But I think you can still uphold the values and the traditions of the game, but still appeal to like a younger demographic. I don't think those two are,

I think you can do that both at the same time. Call me a cheater, Rory. I'm not telling them. I'm not going to. I need every fucking stroke I can get, dude. I might even move it a little bit onto a better lie. I might just go ahead and pull that thing off. I might just go ahead and move this. That's awesome. We'll add.

We'll add. We'll take that out. The people that are talking about shrink the game, it's like you look at what Augusta does and all the traditions and the values, and then some of the things that they've tried to do to modernize and, you know, basically just try to fit in with the 21st century.

It's jarring because it's such a contrast. So I think there's some people that are just a little uneasy with that. But like if we're really trying to grow the game, like this is this is a part of it. You need to try to lean into pop culture and what's relevant at this in this day and age. And I don't see anything wrong with that. Nice. So you're more of a grow the game guy, you would say. Yeah, I'm more of a grow the game guy.

Like the more people playing golf, the better. Yeah. And however you do that, whether that's from Top Golf or obviously you guys were at TGL and trying to appeal to a younger demographic or, you know, some of the other initiatives that like, yeah, I, that's a, that's obvious. Yeah. That's obvious. But growing the game, but still upholding the traditions and values that that golf has, again, I think you can do both. I love it. Well, one of the things, that was my first time being at a part three that I loved.

And we've seen all the clips, like Poppy, obviously, like that clip will be cemented in my brain to that put. Shane Lowry's going crazy. I mean, that is such an awesome moment. Yeah. That is the cool thing about that part three. Everybody's family, their wives, their significant others, their friends. Is that as unique to you guys as it appears to us in the sport of golf? It is.

I think, like, you're basically getting ready for what is, you know, arguably the biggest tournament of the year. But you have this afternoon with your family on Wednesday that just, it makes you forget about everything that's going to happen for the next four days. You know, Poppy talks, you know, she's probably talking about the par three for next year already, right? It's just like, you know, she grows, so you got to get her another boiler, another white boiler sit that fits. And you've got it like, she's just so excited to go out there and spend time with her friends. It's incredible. It's like, it's the most amazing day for the family.

And I think the nice thing for us is we're very close with the Lowry's. and with the Fleetwoods. So to have all the kids spend that time together and make those memories as they grow up. I mean, they're going to grow up like with that, you know, every year. And, you know, the focus this year was, will Frankie clear the water?

And next year will be the same thing. Well, Frankie clear the water. Like, it's going to happen. He was close. He was. And so was Iris. She ends daughter. Iris was pretty close as well.

But it's just, it is. is amazing. It's one of the coolest things about the masters. And like if people don't like it, like that's, you know, they have to look at themselves and look at their own lives because it's it's just, it's families having fun. And honestly, it's a great image to portray to the rest of the world that golfers are human beings and they're enjoying time with their families. And it's, it's a really nice thing. Hell yeah. Absolutely. I will say this. The one thing, so I went over to Dublin for the to watch the first NFL game over there yeah was it the Steelers and it was Steelers and Vikings yeah and the atmosphere was incredible but it was my second time going over to

Ireland my wife is her whole family they're McDavits so they have a bunch of relatives she's hitting Irish dances and everything no doubt but um the golf culture there is incredible and I was there actually with Bill Murray and one of the things he pointed out was that in Ireland a lot of the caddies actually belong in our members of the courses. And it just felt more like a communal vibe the entire time when I was out there. It was spectacular. So there's no real like purely private golf courses. It's all like a sort of bland of public and private.

They're all like semi-private. So you have, you have memberships, but then they're also open to the public at certain times of the day or certain tea times. and it's a better way, I feel a better way to do it and it's definitely more accessible. Because even you get to, like, even I don't know how much they're charging to get into Trout National or like here at the Bears Club, you're having to pay a million bucks to get,

like all this sort of stuff. It's like, it just is so foreign to me. And I think if America could get a little bit more of that where golf is, like I don't know if you've been down here. Have you seen the park in West Palm Beach? Do you know about the park? No, what is it? It's like a public golf facility.

And it's been, it's amazing. It's like Gilhance did it for free. And it's been a lot of like these investors that put money into it. But it's honestly, if the park in West Palm Beach could be replicated like 50 times around the country, like that would be an amazing way to grow the game. There's like a, there's like a par three course called the Lit9 that opens until like midnight. Oh, shit. It is like the best communal sort of.

of it's and it's for it's purely for the community so if you're if you're like within like a 10 mile radius of of west pound beach i think you get to play the course for like 60 bucks but for people coming out of state it's like 250 that's awesome so it's like purely for the local community so like that's the i think that's it's hard though because you need wealthy people to like donate money and that's the hard it's hard to make it pencil out we're dealing with actually in philadelphia and tiger's been a big part of it cops Oh, it's Cobbs Creek, yeah. Yeah, which I think that is strictly public.

And maybe there is a, I'm not sure the parameters of that, but there's a whole learning center that Tigers built, and it's very, like, community-based. Yeah, more of that stuff is like, and then I think Augusta did one called the Patch, which is just over, like, close by. Like, I think more of those sorts of places would be amazing. I actually played nine at the patch before one of the rounds of here down to Augusta.

That place is spectacular. You didn't break 50. I did great. I was having one of the rounds of my life. I didn't even, I thought I was going to pull hook this thing onto the airport. There's a landings trip right there. I know it was right there.

Yeah. All right. We're going to get to this last section, let you enjoy your birthday. We got to ask. We got to ask. You don't have to answer. You tell us fuck off too.

We just talked about Poppy. I am also a girl dad. I'm trying to get my daughter into golf. Do you have any advice? Look, I think, I don't know if I have advice. I just think to me, being a golfer, I don't want Poppy to associate golf with me, like, leaving and not spending time with her. So the more that I can get her on the golf course and playing and enjoying it, I think

that's, but in terms of advice, like, just make it fun. I mean, whatever that means, like, let them drive the golf cart or, you know, like, have it be where, okay, we go play golf and then we'll go get ice cream. Or we, you know, like to, not to treat going to the golf course, then you you get a reward, but just more that like, just that they have like a positive, I don't know, a positive view. Yeah, experience and view of it. Like I, but I will say that, you know, Poppy takes a lesson from, from the local pro here. And he can get her to like stand and concentrate and do stuff for 40 minutes. I literally can't get her to do something for five minutes on the putting green. So like there is, it is just something where, you know, kids just, you know, at some

point don't want to listen to their parents but they'll listen to other people like to me i i i obviously want golf to be a part of poppy's life but like if she takes an interest and wants to play more that's great but if not like i just want her to have a positive view of golf whatever that means oh yeah absolutely and also instill those morals and everything's where she is calling her own penalty unlike somebody like Travis casso yeah exactly our dad had a very similar approach he always wanted us to just you know, if we picked up the sticks or if we picked up the sport the following year, he was like, I did my job.

They're enjoying this. They're pursuing it on their own. He was a literally baseball coach in the community, like, Lee growing up for such a long time. And one of the coolest things I ever heard was like, dad, do you like, do you love winning? Like, what's making you do this? He's like, I just love it when I see the kids pick up the bat the next year

or sign up for it again the next year because they had such a good time doing it when they were playing this year. So I think it's such a cool thing to just try and like force these kids to enjoy themselves more than really lock in on, you know, making it a grind at such a young age. Absolutely. And even like for like if you're still like for me playing competitively, if I do get myself in that little bit of a funk or it's starting to feel like a job, like just reminding of your, reminding yourself yourself of why you started to play the game in the first place. There we go.

We do have a swing that we'd like you to critique if that's right. I might be. be as good as Max Homa, but well, let me, let me, uh, Max is giving me some tips. This is a different swing. Oh, look at this. This is my daughter, Wyatt, first time picking up a driver. Are they Hunter boots? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She got some rain boots on. So perspective, we went to, I took her to the driving range. Normally, she would just go putt, right? And I'm starting to hit. And she's like, hey, can I hit a couple? So we go to the, like, the guy who runs this specific range and ask if he has a like a kid's driver. For sure enough, he has a pink driver. first time swinging the club.

God's honest. Okay. Well, this is actually maybe 50 times, but first day, first day. Hey, pretty good. Yeah. Proud dad right here. Dude, what do you think? She's got her, right?

Jason. Pretty good. I mean, I think the first thing is the first thing that I did with Poppy was try to get her to grip the club properly. And it looks like she's got a pretty decent grip. So that was difficult because the first time she grabbed it, she had the left hand on the bottom. Blue right. She's like got it reverse. Yeah, which some guys are doing now.

There's that one kid, one of the amateurs. You see that? Yes, I did. The guy in the little, the guy in the drive chipping pot. Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, you look at like a Matt Fitzpatrick.

He's left below right when he's chipping. There's a few guys doing that. That's crazy. But pretty good. Like, I mean, some potential. Some potential. You've got, keep going, I mean. I got to get the dryer.

I'm going to get the dryer. I'm going to get the dryer. So she can start chipping. Absolutely. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Make sure it's in the backyard because I broke one or two windows doing that in my mom and dad's when I was a kid. It's all right. Jason deserves to get his windows broken from when he was a kid. Full circle moment. You've done the devil wears Prada sequel and the happy Gilmore sequel. Are you kidding me? You're a movie star now, man.

I am not a movie star. If you watch me act, you will tell I am not a movie star. I am not. But yes, Travis, both of us and Happy Gilmore 2, which was very cool. Sandler is like the coolest guy alive. Absolute legend. Yeah, so the Devil Wars Prada thing was so random. I won the Players Championship last year and they asked me afterwards, like, what did you do last night to prepare?

I said, well, I had dinner and I got back to the room and I watched Devil Wars Prada. So not getting the zone. Not knowing exactly and not knowing that the director, David Frankel, somehow got wind of it. And his son is actually a really, really good player, trying to make it as a pro at the minute, played college golf at, I think it's Stanford. Nice. So the team reached out and said,

like Dave was wondering if you would want to do some sort of cameo. And I said to my wife Erica, I'm like, yeah, what are you thinking? She's like, yeah, absolutely. You can't fucking do it. And then I text back and said, do you think Erica could be in a two? And they're like, sure, bring her along. I was like, this is so, we spent a day in New York and did it, and it was an unbelievable experience. But yeah, like, I, again, I have a day job and that is, I am, it's cool to be able to do these things and it's cool experience being on a movie set, but I am not cut out for that.

It is, those guys, it's long days and it's, it's, it's a grind. It is, it's a grind. Have you ever tried out the happy Gilmore swing? Have you ever tried to perfect that? I haven't tried to perfect it. I've tried it. I think we all did, like, any kid that grew up, like, when the first movie came out. For sure.

But, yeah, no, it's... And in fair to it. Like, I mean, back in the day, like, Sandler was so good at. Dude. Right. Like, he's really good at. I mean, he can... But, no, I...

Yeah, I'm not... I like, I like, like, routine and structure. And, like, anything that's, like, a little bit out of my... Out of my zone, I'm not great with. Oh, yeah. Well, you, I mean, legendarily, one of the furthest drivers on tour.

Like, what is your average drive on tour right now? I'd say I average, like, three, I don't know, 325, 3.30. Probably average, like, 320 in the air.

Oh, nice. Soft land. Nice. I've worked on it. I would say, like, pre-COVID. Like,

I bring it back to, so pre-COVID, I was probably, like, I was probably carrying the ball, like, 305-ish. Right.

So I'm probably like 15 yards longer longer in the year. year. But to me, the big turning point was after COVID, when we all came back out to play, Bryson had put on like 40 pounds and he was hitting the ball so far and then he went to Wingfoot and he won the US Open at Wingfoot playing in a way that I never thought could win a US Open. Right. You know, completely just, you know, wasn't really, it wasn't carrying about hitting fairways but just hit it as far as possible. We'll figure it out down there.

out of the rough. Yeah, and it just made me rethink a little bit. And I probably started to chase the distance a little too much. But then I sort of have found a bit of a happy medium where, you know, I've done some good work in the gym. And, you know, I'm certainly faster than I once was. And yeah, I got to a point where I can swing it with speed, but not at the, like, not having my swing deteriorate and getting into bad habits. So, But the game has changed. And I would say, I'd say, like, not to blow my own horn, but I'd say myself and Dustin Johnson back in 2011, 2012, we sort of changed the way the game was played for a little bit because if you look before that and, like, Tiger had his success, there was a lot of, like, conservative strategies, irons off teas,

Fairway Woods off T's. And then when DJ and I came out, we just were, like, aggressive driver everywhere. And then I think Bryson almost took it to another level again. So and then you have to, you know, like you guys know, like in any profession or anything you do, you're always trying to look for ways to get better. And you're looking at your competitors. You're looking at other guys and like, okay, what do they do that I can't do or what can? So you're always just trying to figure out ways to do it a little bit better.

No, it is, especially in a day and age where there's so many analytics. Like to your point, like a lot of the analytics support just get as close to the hole with your next shot as possible, right? Absolutely. five, just go for it on your second shot and just get up and down. If you're off by a little bit, count, especially if you're the type of players that are on the PGA tour, you try and just get a rescue shot in there. But it is interesting in football. It's the same thing.

Like these analytics get pushed in a way that eventually they're being pushed so much that you're doing it at a level that's counterproductive. Yeah. So it's like you still have to be smart within that exact parameter as well. It's the same thing, you know, that happens in our sport. Like, everybody sees these big plays down the field. It's like, hey, we should just be striking for big plays. And it's like, hey, now everybody's playing these soft prevent defenses.

You're not taking what's underneath. And it's. Yeah. Once the analytic is no longer the way to win. Sorry. No, I know. I absolutely. Well, it has to, it's very, it depends on the situation, right?

Sure. Like, it's not like if you've got a, I don't know, a third, third and three, you're not going to like, that's not what you're going to do. You're not going to go for the long ball over the top. Until you do, Rory. Until you do. But you know that they don't. They think that you aren't going to do it.

Until you have Travis catching it down the field. I would like, yeah, it is very, it's situational. And you have to, because the analytics and the stats can't, they can't cover everything. And they can't tell you like in this scenario or that scenario. It's like, sometimes. you've got to go with your gut instinct and sort of throw the numbers out the window at some point. But they are. They're a good guide. They're certainly a good guide, but I don't think

we should in anything. I don't think we should rely on them because we're all athletes and we all got here not because of the analytics of the stats. Yeah, they might have helped in some ways, but because of ability and intuition and trusting yourself. You know, there's all of that as well. Do you have a Mount Rushmore of golf courses? Oh, of golf courses. What's your top four? I meant, was that four? Yes.

Yeah, sorry. Yeah, I was about to say, yeah. I was right. I should probably know that. We've never asked that to somebody, not from America. That's so good. Nice. Okay, I would say, oh, it's, I, okay, I would say,

I'll go four different. different places. I'll go Kingston Heath in Australia. Okay. I would go Royal County Down in Northern Ireland.

County Down. Royal County Down. I would do Pine Valley on the East Coast and then I would do Cypress Point. Cypress Point. Oh, West Coast. Yeah, that's so hard because there's so, like, there's I'm leaving out so many great golf courts.

It's hard to do for, but like, yeah, those would be the four off the top of my head. I'll take this. You just took us around the world. That's pretty dope. Got four of the I haven't fucking played, so I'm excited to try to play all four. Yeah, but you played Pebble Beach this year. Let's see when Roar is over here talking about. What is the best courses?

Let's see what this thing's heading for. I did. I played Pebble and I was just like there was one point where you're, I think you're on Pebbles, like one of the par three is down by the water on the front nine, and you're like looking over at Cyprus. And that's in spyglass. So that was spyglass. Yeah.

Yeah. Third green is spy glass. And I'm just staring at it. I'm just like, that place looks pretty fucking epic. I'm just like, and everyone raves about it, man. Yeah. Like it's those sort of old traditional golf courses that have all the history and all the, again, it's like, it's going back to that grew the game thing. I think there's, you know, that's a cool thing about golf and all these historical golf courses and all that stuff.

But then, you know, that doesn't have to be mutually exclusive to then appealing to. a different demographic as well, right? I mean, I think we can enjoy both within the game. Jason, I was up in, I was up in Philly on Friday, played Aronimic. Oh, really? Getting ready for the championship. Getting ready for the PGA, yeah. Yeah.

What did you think? It's good. It's looking really good. There's been no one on the course since October, I think. So like, not a divot in the fairway, not a pitchmark on the ground. That's got to be beautiful. Really nice. It's in good shape.

Do you have a favorite course in the Philly area that you've played? It's probably Marion. I don't have much, like I've played most of them, but I would say Marion. Would you call Pine Valley in the Philly area? No, I would say, I mean, it's South Jersey. I mean, it's close enough, but yeah. Yeah. I heard Mike Trout's place is supposed to be really good.

I just played it yesterday. Yeah. Thanks for the invite, Jason. Ain't me alive. The wind was blowing. It's long. Yeah. I suck.

A lot of reasons. I was going to say, what courts have. as an ADU. Good point. No, they did a fantastic job with that place. Yeah, it looks really good. How many times will you play, will that be the only time you'll play around me

before the championship or the PGA? Yeah, so I go, I'll play Charlotte this week, and then I'll just go straight there. Yeah, so Charlotte's like, it's a, you know, it's a big tournament, but it's a nice warm-up to go into the PGA, you know, especially after having three weeks off. I hear this a lot about the difference of like the turf

between like the South, especially down in Florida, versus like the Northeast. How does that change your approach? Does it alter things that much? Always wanted to know this. Yeah. So around the greens is definitely different. So Bermuda, you notice the most difference when you're chipping, like chipping and on the rough, like Bermuda grass is, yeah, it's probably my least favorite grass to chip out of.

So it's a good thing I live in Florida because I get a bit more practice. Yeah, northeast, it's like thicker blades. It's a little more predictable. I think if you're chipping out of the rough in the northeast, that sort of bent grass or rye grass, it's a little more predictable, which is nice. And then, yeah, the turf is different. The club gets through the grass a bit easier.

I'd say most players prefer to play off that sort of turf. Is that more similar to what's over in the UK and Ireland? Or is that even different up there? It's a little, yeah, because we play mostly links courses. It's a little more, it's different. It's firmer turf, but it's very, I guess, the grass would be quite, what's the word, like fine. So it's fescue grass.

It's fine. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's different. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like a cow. I like, I love the fescue. Yeah, there you go. This guy. So when did you get your agricultural degree?

Dude, it's so crazy that you have to know like which grasses are like fine and which like it's, which way they grow and everything. Like, it's crazy. Or at least if you want to be a nerd about it, which I, I feel like all of the best, like, athletes in the world are like, they love their profession so much, they want to know it to that detail. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think you get, you gain it through experience. I don't think, I mean, did I want to know about different grasses and different greens? Like, no, but I, but you have to, you have to

learn, you have to learn how, you know, the ball reacts on certain greens. And it just, and I think for me, like, you know, growing up not from here. And then I guess the first couple of years of my career playing all over the world. So going to the southern hemisphere, playing in South Africa, playing in Australia, playing in Asia, you know,

you just, you have to figure it out. You know, and you have to be adaptable. And I think that's been one of the, probably one of the hallmarks of my career and one of the big reasons for my consistency is I've learned how to play

in a lot of different environments. Well, I got to say, Roy, probably the most difficult environment I've ever played in was Northern Ireland at a club called Ard, Have you played Ardglass before? I have played Ard Glass and Ard Glass is the home course of my of my coach Michael Bannon.

Oh, really? Michael Bannon's been my coach since I was seven years old. And that's his home course. It was stunning, the views, everything. And I got the true Irish Lynx golf experience. I mean, I got all seasons and 18 holes, the front nine, double rain gloved up, like free freezing trying to hit this ball. It was, but I had a blast.

There's something about being in those environments, like when it's like that, that you kind of forget about trying to shoot your best round. All the stress gets put out of it. It's like, dude, I'm just going to enjoy what's happening right now because this is absolutely crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's a part of it, right? We play an outdoor sport and I think that is all a part of it. I would say, like, I grew up in that stuff. And, you know, I've lived in Florida for the last 14 years, so I've probably got a little soft.

Like I, you guys used to be, you know, after school, I'd go out in that stuff. And then I think about like, like nowadays, it's not a very nice day here. And it's like maybe drizzling. And I'm like, no, I don't know if I want to go practice today. Let me ask you this. Have you ever, are you a double rain glove guy when he gets too crazy or you just? I am. I think it looks terrible.

I mean, I think it makes us look so soft. But it's just, yeah, it's, yeah. Yeah, you have to be able to hold on to the club. I think as well, like the wetter those gloves get, like the tackier they get. So it's like you don't have to worry about drying your grips or like it just, yeah, it makes it a bit easier. But it does make us look incredibly soft. I embrace it. I embrace the softness.

I have to. All right. Hey, look, you like you did what you did for a living for a long time. So no one can say you're soft. Good question that. All right. Fair enough. All right.

Do you have a welcome to professional golf? moment. We ask every kind of guest here, the welcome to their career. Like, what was the moment where you're like, man, I'm really on the PGA tour? Yeah, it was probably even before that. It's a really, it's a random one. I played in the third round of the Singapore Open in 2008 with Ernie Ells. Ernie, the Big Easy. Ernie, the Big Easy, who ended up becoming a great, I, I, I, I, a great friend of ours. But I played with him

and it was my first full year on tour. I was doing pretty well. I was trying to get into the top 50 in the world so I would qualify for all the majors the next year and I'm paired with Ernie. And we tee off the first hole at Sentosa Golf Club. And this is really, I don't know why this sticks out so much,

but I hit a three wood off the tee and he hit a driver. And I got up there and I was like 10 yards past him with my three wood as he was a driver and I was like okay here we go I was like holy shit this is I'm not all it took I was like I belong I just said my three wood past Arne's driver and I belong that's so badass that was like a big you know Ernie was he's obviously a great player four major championships and you know you know one of the best players um of that generation and it was just sort of like

and I think I ended up beating them that day by a few shots and that was like a that was like a big It's like a big moment for me. That's crazy. Yeah, 18 years ago. Holding it down for the big guys, swinging the sticks, man. God, I wish I could have that tempo. Fuck. Dude, appreciate the time.

Appreciate the stories, man. Happy birthday again. Thank you. Good luck up in Philly and first over in Charlotte and then up in Philly, man. You know, we'll be watching. Always rooting for you, brother. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, guys.

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Enjoy the weekend, guys. We didn't address that woman referring to it as skin children, though. I feel like we kind of glossed over that in the voicemail that I didn't love. I didn't. I didn't love. I was with her until she said that. And I wanted a more of them. I didn't want to go.

there. I did. We all made a face. Everybody made a face. When they heard it, we can all just move on. But I did hear it. You heard it too. I didn't hear it.

I didn't even understand what that woman was fucking talking about. Didn't love it. I don't like that phrase. I don't think we need to. I think I'm with her until she used that and we can stop that phrase right now. That's fair. I'm just real confused on what skin children means. She called her pets, her fur children.

I saw the fur children. I saw her. I remember hearing the fur children. She called her pets, her fur children and she said because I don't have skin children, people don't consider me a mother. Don't like that. Don't pigs have skin? Is there like one of the things that's like very similar to like pigs and humans? Great point.