New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Matt & Brady Tkachuk on 4 Nations Face-Off, Partying with The Cup & Art of Hockey Fights | Ep 125

Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondery plus subscribers can listen to new heights early and ad free plus unlock access to exclusive episodes of the show Join Wondery plus in the wonder yet Apple podcast or Spotify today What's the art of the hockey fight? I'm gonna take this question off cuz Brady would kick my ass I feel the same way about Travis little sly wirly, wiry motherfucker. They ain't getting in a fucking cage with you. I told Jason, I was like, we ever played the Eagles, I was fucking coming out there and I was gonna drop that, drop the gloves on them. That would have been electric.

Starting point is 00:00:34 Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a Wondry show produced by Wavesports and Entertainment and brought to you by Swab. No nonsense, self care for men. How about that? No nonsense. What's the nonsense? What's the nonsense?

Starting point is 00:00:54 You know they're fucking blowing smoke up your asses. Beard oils, beard oils, some nonsense. Yeah, exactly. All that shit. Yeah, you already know. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother. Jason Kelsey representing America.

Starting point is 00:01:05 Yeah, right. That's right. As we we got a fun episode for you and we'll get into that in a second. But we are recording this on a beautiful Sunday morning in different parts of the world. Jason. I just realized that you have a new portrait sitting right above your head. That's actually it's a beautiful portrait of us. Has that always been there?

Starting point is 00:01:26 Is that not been there? I think that's been there for a while. All right, subscribe on YouTube, OneDrew Plus, or wherever you get your podcasts, ladies and gentlemen, and follow the show on all social media. At New Heights Show with 1S for fun clips throughout the week and Jason Tilde with 92 percenters.

Starting point is 00:01:39 What we got coming up? We're back! That's right, after one week off, we are back to you every Wednesday. Short hiatus. Rejuvenated, baby. Rejuvenated. That's right. We're going to get you guys caught up on everything we did last week, which wasn't that much. But either way, we're going to get you caught up. We also got some no-dumb questions and we got a great conversation coming up with the brothers of Team USA Hockey

Starting point is 00:02:07 coming up with the brothers of teen USA hockey and the NHL the Kachuk brothers are with us today so uh can't wait to dive into that but first as always as I'll start with a little bit of that new news is brought to you by my dead friend Zoe Travis correct? Yeah. What do we got going on here? Trap? Well, I am I helped support this film from a distance. It's about the military. It's about veterans coming back from war specifically Afghanistan and and having to deal with, you know, the problems of losing somebody in war that they went to combat with.

Starting point is 00:02:41 Wow. It's a it's a beautiful story. I think it's a it's something that you know, a lot of veterans deal with when they come back home. And I thought it was obviously star-studded with people like Morgan Freeman, Ed Harris, Sonequa Martin-Green, and Natalie Morales. I think it made sense to help support this film. And it is getting absolutely great reviews. And it is out this Friday. Well, I can't wait to go support this film and it is getting absolutely great reviews and it is out this Friday.

Starting point is 00:03:07 Well, I can't wait to go watch this thing. This sounds awesome. Jason, you ended up getting into a little fun with our guys, Fitz and Whit. Fitz and Whit. Yeah, jumped on the couch with the boys. I did. That was actually, we jumped on that before the Super Bowl down there in New Orleans. New Orleans.

Starting point is 00:03:23 But yeah, those guys are awesome. You know, we love both of them. We were out there in Tahoe last year with them and it feels like we've just hung out even more since then. So always good to chop it up with both those guys are great personalities. They're funny. They're engaging was happy to hop on the show with them, dude. One of my favorite stories.

Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, Fitz is over there talking about the night that the whole gang came over to my house and KC like three years ago. After the Thursday night game. It was so unexpected. Yeah. So unexpected for them to actually show up. I was like, dude, there's no way they're actually going to show up. I sent them the address and they all pull up and I'm just over here just like having the best time with them. And I was like a little kid in the candy store. I'm pretty sure we won the game and I was on you know, had had the whole crew over the house, including everybody that was in the suite. That's awesome. I just remember going up into the attic and just grabbing the most

Starting point is 00:04:17 like like all this shit I'm trying to hide from everybody. Like random port likes like artwork and like portraits and like t shirts and shit. And like t-shirts and shit. And it was just so funny. He's just walking around the place like he owned it. Every time he came down the steps, it was with something even more embarrassing than the last. That's hilarious.

Starting point is 00:04:35 Good man. The guys the absolute best. And if you haven't watched, are you smarter than the celebrity? Fitzpatrick is the fucking man. Hell, yeah. Fitzmagic is he's a Harvard grad, so he's absolutely brilliant. He's witty and he made it so much fun to be a part of that show with him.

Starting point is 00:04:52 So make sure you guys check out Are You Smarter Than Celebrity with Me and Him on a good old Prime video, baby. Oh yeah, baby. Love that, love that. Jason, you wanna talk about the parade you were at, dude? You went to a parade out there in Philly. Yeah. I was in a parade. Oh, yeah. Listen, Philadelphia knows how to do parades. There's a few things

Starting point is 00:05:11 they know how to do extremely well. Parades is one of them, whether it's a members parade or a parade after an Eagle Super Bowl. It was absolutely electric. There's something really like, and you know this from the praise that you've had in KC, but there's something so just incredible about sharing in a moment with that many people. Right? Like millions of people are lining one street in Philadelphia and down at the art museum steps. And it's so apparent how much joy and pleasure you as a football player or you did as a football player and now this team who just won it this year was able to provide for an entire city. I just think it's one of the things that is just like beyond awesome to be at. For me, I don't know, I got to see the guys before they went out on the parade.

Starting point is 00:05:58 I went down to the stadium, got to hang out with them. It was chopping it up with a lot of the offensive linemen, especially Stout and people that I had spent a lot of time with in Philadelphia, got to congratulate a lot of former players, Jalen Hurts, Nick Sirianni. So it was an awesome day for me to just kind of appreciate as well as the fan base. Then Selick and I, we went on a different route. We were like, all right, we're not going to go on the buses. We're just going to kind of meet those guys down there. We went to the oldest bar in Philadelphia, McGillin's, and proceeded to then try and

Starting point is 00:06:33 just walk to the art museum steps. Big mistake, nearly impossible. We had to like, we got chauffeured there by some cops and stuff like that, found our way there and were able to. I don't know. It was just it was just a lot of fun. We're running throughout the crowd. People are going crazy. You know, we're seeing the buses and all the guys and like Nolan Smith

Starting point is 00:06:54 is having himself one hell of a day. And it was just it was really fun to be a part of and see those guys be able to, you know, experience it for their first time, especially the guys that weren't there. But last time we wanted to see the city that galvanized around the team was incredible to see as well. Yeah, it's always beautiful, man. But I, I tell you what, I saw Sally before the, uh, the game. Yes. I don't know how long it's been since I saw a man, but just to see him on the sideline and to give a big old hug, man, I miss that fucking big

Starting point is 00:07:24 bear, dude. He's such a good dude. He is. And it was awesome seeing him and seeing Connor on the sideline. There's so many people in that fucking organization that I absolutely love. CB. CB finally got a Super Bowl. How about that, man? Happy as hell for him, man. Yeah, man. He'd been hunting for that for a long time. It was really great for a lot of the people in the organization, for everybody, but like especially people that you're there for a long time with or you're there who haven't had one yet and then all of a sudden they get that. The celebration going down Broad Street, man, there ain't nothing better than it.

Starting point is 00:07:56 I mean, people are going crazy. We tried to, at one point, try to walk through Love Park and it's, I mean, I don't know, it was just, it, absolute mayhem. So, yeah, Philadelphia's got braids figured out. That's for damn sure. I love it. Well, there's another celebration in this today. Bennett turns to today. That's right. You guys are getting ready to bring in another baby girl.

Starting point is 00:08:19 Little Benny turns to today. And what do you guys got planned for her? So she's actually unfortunately, we're doing the podcast. So she's at the alpaca right now without me. We've kind of been celebrating it last night and today. But yeah, Benny's, she is so funny right now. And she's at that age where she responds and can talk, but she doesn't always know what she's saying. And it's just adorable's just adorable. I don't know, it's hard to explain, but it's fantastic to interact with her on a daily basis. That's cool.

Starting point is 00:08:53 Seeing the learning process and the curiosity of a child all manifesting is just, that's probably my favorite part about being a parent is just watching a child figure things out and being there with them while they're doing that. And like how amazing something as simple as like figuring out how to open up the fridge or you know, whatever it is, every day there's gonna be something that just blows your mind that you take advantage of every single day as a grown up. And you're like, Oh my God, this just made this little kid's entire day was figuring out how to unscrew a water bottle.

Starting point is 00:09:30 Right now, that's all she's doing the rest of the day. And it's like the best thing ever. So anyways, Benny's doing great. Happy birthday to Benny. Happy B day. By the time the next kid is here, we'll have a five-year-old, a four-year-old, a two-year-old and a newborn.

Starting point is 00:09:43 So we're in the thick of it. We're in the thick of it. Big time. It's going to be crazy. I still don't know how we're going to handle for, but it's going to be intense. Oh yeah. You guys would be great. I can't wait to fucking get up in there and have some fun with those girls and hand them right back to you. All right. That's the benefit of the uncle, uncle Travy.

Starting point is 00:10:02 Well, we got some, we got some updates for the Heights Hotline. Yeah, we do. We love all our voicemails that we get from you guys on a specific topic, but we got a new one for you. This time, the topic is gonna be parenting advice. Ooh. That's right. From a soon to be father of four and a father of zero.

Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, dude, I can give you some advice though. For sure. Travis great advice. He's great uncle, outstanding uncle, which uncle, you know, kind of like a father step but now belief father, like you're a little bit up there. Yeah, the best uncle in the world, man. Still got the best uncle in the world. Uncle Don.

Starting point is 00:10:40 Big Don. Big Don. Uncle Don. Solid uncle. Dude, one of my favorite people in the entire world, man. He would wheel us around. He would get us.

Starting point is 00:10:48 He would just like spin us around like we were in a circus. We thought it was the best thing in the world. He throw us up in the air. Yeah, no uncle. Don's the best. We will answer some of these note of questions on an upcoming wonder E plus bonus episode called high tot line. Look forward to that.

Starting point is 00:11:05 Don't know if you want to take any of our advice as we give with anything from the hotline. Please don't take anything we say seriously, but we will be offering it up if you want to listen to it. I'm so serious. You listen to me. I got some shit figured out. That's it for your new news brought to you

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Starting point is 00:15:50 six all-star appearances, one all-star game MVP, a Stanley Cup championship. We have the brothers of the NHL, Matthew and Brady Kachak. Welcome to the show, baby. Let's fucking go. Love the energy. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, baby. Oh my gosh, I'm up now, boys. Guys, thanks so much for joining us. First of all, how are we doing? What an electric freaking tournament. How are you guys feeling? It's kind of set in finally. We've had a few days to really reflect on it. The bodies took a little bit of a toll.

Starting point is 00:16:24 So much for people thinking it was going to be an all star game. That was, uh, I mean, I played in the Stanley cup finals last year and it was, it was the exact same. So it was, it was very fun. Um, highlight for me was getting the chance to play with Brady though. It was, uh, it was such an incredible time and something that we're going to look back on forever. It was such an incredible time and something that we're gonna look back on forever. Now, was this your guys first time playing together, Brady? I don't know. Did you guys grow up playing together or was it too far apart? Yeah, we were too far apart. We played in Florida, the all-star game, but that was just all fun and

Starting point is 00:17:00 enjoying it. But this was rolling right into the gear. Rolling right into the fire and honestly, it was the best hockey experience I've ever had. It was so cool. It was unreal. So I'm not sure when exactly did they start doing the Four Nations Tournament for all the football like listeners that we got on here. Instead of the All-Star game,

Starting point is 00:17:18 they went with the Four Nations Tournament, right? Yeah, this is the first year. This was the first year. I was about to say, I don't remember this happening ever before but yeah it's because it's for some reasons you know nine years since there's a best on best tournament and I think that's what we wanted to to kind of

Starting point is 00:17:33 bring a little energy for the Olympics next year since you know the NHL guys are back going to the Olympics and yeah obviously I think the NHL NHL PA did a unbelievable job and and I know it blew like we were talking about, it blew the expectations right out of the water. It was so, so awesome. Yeah. I mean, Trav was talking about it. I don't, I haven't seen the general country is excited for hockey as much as it was for this last year. And there's a lot of politics at play and other things that made it even more intense on the ice for you guys. But I love when hockey is that relevant. It's exciting. It's freaking aggressive. There is

Starting point is 00:18:10 passion out there. Everybody loved what you guys are putting out there for Team USA. And the product, the product, the games were fucking fun as fuck to watch outside of the, I mean, the, the two brawls or the three brawls within the first like, dude, it was electric the entire tournament. And I think that, you know, me and Jason grew up playing hockey. I don't know if you guys knew this, but Jason played through high school. I only played up to eighth grade. And don't get me wrong. It was just like double A hockey. It wasn't anything too crazy, but it was, it was one of the most fun sports that I played

Starting point is 00:18:40 growing up. And I wish I would have fucking stayed on the ice just because of how much fun you have when you when you get out there. Did you guys grow up playing other sports or was it just hockey? Because I know the road to the NHL isn't your traditional road where typically guys go through like the high school ranks and everything like that. Like they go through juniors up in Canada. There's a lot of different like avenues you can go. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:02 What was it like growing up playing hockey? Yeah, so my parents never let us play one sport year round or like just one sport in general, like they're genius. Obviously played 19 years in the NHL and he just, he just, I remember him telling us at such a young age, you have to be well rounded, like you have to enjoy going from, you know, one group of friends to your other group of friends, you know, in the baseball season, the summer, you know, your school soccer team or what else we played basketball, soccer, we played every single thing that you can, you can get your hands on.

Starting point is 00:19:42 I mean, we'd swing the sticks and play some golf in the summer. But I remember after hockey season, we might have played a few spring tournaments, maybe one summer tournament, just to hang out with some friends. Other than that, the hockey bag was throw it in the garage and we'll see it again in September or October. So I think I got to give our parents a ton of credit for that because one, all these kids nowadays are getting burnt out early and they're almost getting forced to play it. And I don't even know if they love it. And I think that it just helped grow

Starting point is 00:20:13 our love for hockey more because you know, when you're playing other sports and we're having so much fun, like you're almost excited again for hockey season. So I give them a lot of credit for that. I don't think we played just hockey until I don't know Brady when we went to The US team at 15. Yeah might have been Yeah, like we both played we had similar paths so we both went to the US team for our Yeah, so it's US juniors It's the 17 u 18 national team command arbor, which was huge for us. And all the best players in the country are coming together, competing, practicing together, just making everybody better.

Starting point is 00:20:51 And then I went and played junior in Canada for my draft year. And then two years later, Brady went to BU for his draft year. So that was the only difference that we had in our hockey paths. Nice. That's unique too, because it feels like hockey is a sport where, at least for us, most of the best players I knew in hockey, they played hockey constantly. All year round.

Starting point is 00:21:10 Like it was- All year round. They played summer leagues, they played juniors, they were doing it nonstop. But I love hearing, I think multi-sports makes you so much better as an overall athlete. So I love hearing that, that's great to hear. Let's get back a little bit to the Four Seasons, or the Four Nations tournament. Do you think that they That's great to hear. Let's get back a little bit to the Four Seasons or the Four Nations tournament.

Starting point is 00:21:26 Do you think that they're going to continue to do this? It was so massively successful. Matthew, you got an injury. You guys just talked about the intensity of it. Do you think that this is going to be something that the NHL is going to lean into in future seasons? Yeah. I mean, I think they've come up with a plan of like, obviously, this was, I think,

Starting point is 00:21:47 more successful than they could have pictured. And then next year, we got the Olympics. And then I think they're doing a World Cup where they've been talking about getting more countries involved that instead of the four nations get more like the I think they're looking for like eight countries. So just to see more talent being showcased. And I think they're talking about having some games in Europe, which I think would be a really cool experience and tie that into the 2030 Olympics. And so I think they're coming up

Starting point is 00:22:15 with that every two years of an event like this to kind of do it. I just think everybody missed it. Everybody missed it. But it's going to be a The best of the best. But it's gonna be a little bit different with the no Olympic rules. There's not going to be they're not allowed to fight in and stuff. Listen that. But the other goal, baby, I know it was it was it was great. But yeah, no, they've been arguing to get that rule set in the NFL for years. I mean, could you imagine just once every game, you just get a fucking you're allowed one. I told Jason, I was like, we ever played the Eagles,

Starting point is 00:22:56 I was fucking coming out there. I was going to talk about electric. I do want to talk about the fight because both both of you guys obviously Matthew Matthew you got in the first fight of the first game with Canada Brady you're next and then Miller got in the third fight right. I don't know you guys know right from the moment of the anthem that that was going to happen like what led up to that right off the first face off fight happened to Matthew. I think that, you know, USA, we, that team is such a proud group of Americans and wanted to show how united we were and how proud we were to be Americans. I mean, let's face it, like, you know, I, you know, last bunch of years, you really haven't seen that from Americans in general, like to show off how proud they are to be a part of the United States. And I think that our team did a great job of making a big impact on people from the whole tournament, but especially that game against Canada, going into a hostile environment

Starting point is 00:23:54 and wanting to set the tone in a very tough place to play against a very great team. And so I think that we knew it was going to be an intense game and me, Brady and Mills, he were talking before about it, about, you know, potentially, you know, if there were going to be just some scraps doing it right away. Yeah. If the feelings right, you know, if they set the lights at a right and he'll get the moods right. We'll see what happens.

Starting point is 00:24:22 But to be honest with you, it was all joking around until like right before we went out for the anthem. And then you know, we send an R we're the road team, we send an R lineup first, then they send theirs. And, you know, they, I was just like, Brady, I'm gonna ask whoever's lined up on their left side to fight at first. And then the guy asked fought me and then Brady, I guess, went right over to the calling for mid fight. And then Mills, he went right after. I just think it was, uh, you know, it made me very proud to be playing for that team

Starting point is 00:24:57 during that moment, you know, to see how united we were and like I said, a hostile environment at the end of the day, it's, you know, a fight to fight. You're going there to beat the other guy up. But I think it was more than that. It was more to show your teammates, we got this, we're together in this. We all come from different parts of the country, different backgrounds, different teams,

Starting point is 00:25:15 and we're in this and we're gonna fight together. That's fucking badass. That made me really, really proud, to be honest with you. And even people since the tournament, that's all they're talking about, how proud to be honest with you. And, and, and even people, you know, since the tournament, that's, that's all they're talking about, how proud they were of our team and how united we were and, and how we were, um, you know, inspiration to them. And, and I think that's come from the whole tournament, but that, that's what makes me most proud. I think.

Starting point is 00:25:38 I had to say, I was way more nervous or Matthew fight when I saw him start to throw, I was like, Oh, here we go. I was listening to the crowd too. Every time you throw it, I was way more nervous for Matthew fight. When I saw him start to throw, I was like, oh, here we go. Let's go boys. Let's go boys. I was listening to the crowd too. Every time he was throwing, I was like, okay, let me know if I can wait till the next whistle. Like I gotta go, like I gotta grab somebody now. Can we?

Starting point is 00:25:56 Can we then be like, okay. How clean was our dab up too Brady? How clean was the ball? I'll remember that forever. That was so badass. You guys got this dab up of all time. Cause we said it at Jeff every single day. Dude, so how the buildup and everything and how it snowballed and all that from the first

Starting point is 00:26:11 game is so awesome. But there had to be a little bit of you. You said you were joking around where it was like you knew your dad did something very similar to this in 1996. Within like the first 20 seconds of the game, I believe that's how it went down with him as well, right? Claude LeVue. They actually were telling the story because the guy who fought Bill Guerin was our general

Starting point is 00:26:34 manager for that tournament. They were both laughing about before, it's like, who's taking the big guy? Billy G is like, I got the big guy. And they're joking, I was like, Big Walt, why didn't you grab the big guy? like Billy G's like, I got the big guy. And then their Joker, I was like, big wall, why didn't you grab the big guy? Like you're bigger than me. And they're like, just to hear that, just to hear about us like leading into the tournament about Joker like, if this is going to happen, who's got who and stuff like that. So it was funny how it kind of came.

Starting point is 00:26:59 30 years later, it's like the exact same story. So why? So why? I do think fighting is such a big part of hockey's culture, at least in the United States and in the NHL. And it feels like it's misunderstood. A lot of the times I love the way you, Matthew, just described it. Like it's almost about galvanizing everybody in like, hey, we're not going to take shit from anybody. We're standing up for ourselves and we're going to battle. And I think that they had the same response on their end. And that's what made it so electric.

Starting point is 00:27:28 Like there was two countries in particular, Canada and the US that were so proudly like fighting for each other. And it was just awesome to witness. One of the things that Travis and I never got to do, unfortunately with football, is we don't, we never got to represent our country. So it's just so awesome to be able to see you guys do that. We're living through our NHL brothers, man. We appreciate you guys. I got to go to the Olympics for the first time this year, which was awesome. You get to see a bunch of people compete for the United States there. But yeah, watching this was incredible. I do got to ask you, there's an art to hockey fights. Travis and I never got skilled enough or advanced enough to learn.

Starting point is 00:28:04 Our hockey fights never got out of the locker. We were locker boxing in the middle of like hockey tournament or hockey like camps and stuff like that. But that was as far as it got. We got a very rudimentary upbringing with either locker boxing or our man Steve Bogus, who was both of our coach just Little League's. Stevie. Stevie, rest in peace. He is no longer with us, but he said, you got to grab the other guy's right hand with this hand, you grab his shoulder right there, and you kind of steer it. And then you're throwing with this one. And I don't know, is there more to it than that? Or what's the art of the hockey fight? Are there unwritten rules?

Starting point is 00:28:38 I'm going to take this question off because Brady would kick my ass. It's got a little reach advantage. I feel the same way about Trav, little sly, wiry motherfucker. They ain't getting in a fucking cage with you. Everyone's different though. Like it's, it's all kind of like the same concept, but like, I know Matthew and I like even like watching like all of our fights and like just like he grabs like the middle of the shoulder pads here, but I, I like to grab like just like around his elbow. Oh, yeah. And like I kind of grab and twist it. And like as I'm throwing like Anna, I can't reach them. Then like, I know it didn't happen against Canada, but I throw and then like switch hands to like, but like, there you go. Brady's a brawler. He's

Starting point is 00:29:25 got the left and right. That's too much. You're making Yeah, you gotta have good balance on the ice to be throwing both hands like that. Yeah. But when you grab like the elbow, it's like you control everything right? Like you can control like when he throws over like you kind of push your hand forward like a bike and yeah and when he tries to throw an uppercut, you can kind of like bring it down a little bit. So yeah, like you just kind of push your hand forward like a button. Yeah. And when he tries to throw an uppercut, you can kind of like bring it down a little bit. So yeah, like you just kind of

Starting point is 00:29:47 tuck your elbow and you're not going to get hit. So yeah, but usually the mindset is how can I knock this guy out? I love it. I love it. No better feeling. If somebody gets like cheeky and like kind of like dodges and like, like moves, is it is it frowned upon if a guy like kind of like flanks or if he like tries are there any rules or Any unwritten is there any other finesse kind of move that you make that's like I've seen I've seen guys do like the Superman punch and like that's always like in a square up

Starting point is 00:30:20 That's the only thing I'm thinking about is like I do not want to get Superman to square up. That's the only thing I'm thinking about is like, I do not want to get Superman kind of like throw headfakes, like get in there. And it's like, and you don't want to like overextend to go grab them. Cause then he like back up and can throw. But I mean, unwritten rules, like usually when the guy's down, you don't hit them. There's no unwritten unless you don't like the guy, which we usually don't know we're still throwing at the bottom. So but yeah, there's it's it's a free for all when it comes to us too. That doesn't matter until the refs come in. That's until we're going to the box and still try to throw.

Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah, I love it, man. How was like moms and grandmas? How did they feel about you guys throwing the mitt or dropping gloves? Well, nobody knew. And honestly, it didn't even cross her mind that like we didn't tell anybody in our family and then I guess we're just debriefing after the game with with the fam and of course everybody was so excited but I guess my dad saw right off the

Starting point is 00:31:18 draw like Matthew going back with like his one glove off and he's like tap. My mom's like you don't really know what's coming but it's happening. She's like, what are you talking about? Then whistle and then that gloves came off and I guess she was just, my mom doesn't really handle it too well. I think, I mean, she's accepted, like that's kind of who we are as players, but I think on that stage and she was pretty nervous and then same thing happened the next draw. My dad was like, hey, Brady's going, just watch. He's like, no, he's not. No way. No way. I guess for like 15 minutes, she just like couldn't believe what was going on. Our grandma

Starting point is 00:32:02 is the same thing. I think it's a little nervous, but I think she knows like how we grew up and how we were roughhousing each other growing up and how we've kind of built that toughness with the both of us that we can kind of handle our own. But, but it's funny, like I know Matthew's fiance, my wife, I don't think, like, they're not like that. They're like almost,'s it's like that's who we are. So yeah, it's funny To see the not even surprised in my sister Taryn. She loves it She was probably giving so many fist pumps and high-five and everybody and So it's pretty funny to see that the different people in our life with the different reactions that they have for it. That's awesome, man. My favorite reaction was when they cut Matthew in the penalty

Starting point is 00:32:49 box after you started fucking brawling. Dude, you were fucking banging on the glass. Dude, I can only imagine how that feels to watch your brother just be on his team fighting for your country. It's like the one time you get to represent your country and you guys know you guys did it the most badass way, man. That's just so cool. Yeah. Watching Brady was legit, like the most proud of her. It was just so surreal. It was awesome. Yeah, that's another thing. You guys shared a penalty box

Starting point is 00:33:15 together. What was that like? What'd you guys talk about? It was a highlight. We're just talking about the fight. How awesome it was. It just says five minutes. And then awesome it was. It just like... It was five minutes to every split. And then Millsy came in and just the same thing. We were just like, oh my God, that just happened. This is awesome.

Starting point is 00:33:33 Now let's go win the game. Let's go make it meaningful and win the game. But it was unbelievable. It was just like those little things that I know I was mic'd up for that game and I'm excited to see like the full clip and there's a little clip of our conversation right when we came in and it was pretty funny because I'm excited to the whole clip of just what we were even talking about. It's like two kids talking. It's like, how was my fight?

Starting point is 00:33:58 Oh, it was great. Little fight. I was on route. It's just like, I don't know, you guys know what it's like. We're just sort of more with each other. It's like we're two little kids again, just having fun. So that's what it felt like in the box. It was the best. Fuck yeah, man. Well, there was a lot of momentum built up. And now I

Starting point is 00:34:16 think the NHL is going to benefit from this. People are all in on hockey right now. It's an awesome time to be in the United States as a hockey fan. What do you think the USA can continue to do to build on this momentum and continue to push the sport as a country? well, I think it's it's exciting because you've got people across the country that Might have never heard about hockey before I watched a game that are now fans and that's that's something that you know, I think Brady and I and the rest of our team should be proud of and that we grew the game in this country. And the game's in a better place now than it was two weeks ago. So I think that first and foremost is very exciting. I just think we have to keep building momentum with these international events too, because

Starting point is 00:34:59 like I said, how much pride our team showed in representing our country. And there is nothing like wearing that jersey. It doesn't matter what team you're on, like there is just nothing like it. So I just think next year, when it comes to the Olympics, we have to do a job and compete our asses off and ultimately come out with exactly what we want to accomplish. So I think that's very important, but the game's in a better place right now. And this tournament was a great idea for whoever came up with it and it was a huge success So just hockey keeps growing in this country. And I think too like, you know, you're our team in Florida You know a non-traditional hockey market is so much youth hockey grow a Tampa's had a lot of success So you're seeing it there and then what our our captain Austin Matthews from Scottsdale

Starting point is 00:35:44 You know, like there's there's guys from all over the country that maybe, you know, when my dad played, it was Minnesota and Boston and Michigan. So it's growing a lot right now. We just, we just got to keep it going and keep putting together good performances. Yep. Fuck yeah, man. Well, growing up in a hockey house, man, your dad played 19 seasons in the NHL, which is God damn, man so you guys grew up in st. Louis were you guys big blues fans or who you guys cheering on in terms of like who you guys were attracted to growing up in in the NHL world was it like Brett Hall and the

Starting point is 00:36:16 boys or what my dad came a little bit later than then Holly my dad came we were both born in Arizona when he played for the coyotes. And I think I was four Brady was two, maybe I don't know the exact, when we moved to St. Louis, instantly got hooked on the blues and the players on that team. Uh, but it's funny, like, as we got older, cause my dad played till he was 39. So we were more than old enough to remember and watch and love the game and love, you know, some of the teammates and other guys across the league. Like at one point later on in his career, like our dad's just our dad. Like he's not an NHL player. Like he's not, he's not cool. The cool guys are Sidney

Starting point is 00:36:55 Crosby and Patrick Kane. So as much as we were blues fans, you know, we are idols and guys, we want to be like, we're, we're Sidney Crosby, Patrick Kane, some of those young studs at the time that now we get to play against. So it's so surreal. But our dad is the best. Looking back, what he did for us is he kind of ingrained the love for hockey organically, but him bringing us to the rink all the time. Like there were no rules from the coach or the GM. Like my boys are coming to the rink. They're going to skate before they're going to hang out in the room.

Starting point is 00:37:31 And luckily they're, you know, everybody was really cool with it and allowed it. But that's awesome, man. That's so cool. So I think and Bri and I both played in the NHL when we were 18. And I think what a lot of guys have trouble with maybe out of the gates is what it's like coming into a room full of NHL guys at that age. And maybe the lights might be too bright, but we grew up in the rink with my dad bringing us and being around the guys, being around the trainers, treating them

Starting point is 00:37:58 as good as you can and just being around older guys. And so I think that him doing that really allowed us to have success right away and allowed us to make the NHL at that age. So a lot of credit goes to that. But growing up, I don't know, Brady, like some of the best memories for us is just being around the room with the guys and shooting the shit and skating with them

Starting point is 00:38:18 before practice. I mean, it's memories that I've always thought about and I can't believe that we were lucky enough to be able to do that. Heck we were just talking about your family watching you guys brawl did you guys ever see dad throw the throw the hands on the ice? Oh yeah. What was that like? A couple of times. Oh it was weird just oh dad you got you got beat up last night. No! No! I remember like just watching because we're so close to the action and it was just like just so fired up.

Starting point is 00:38:50 We'd probably try to emulate it in the like the room after like, oh, this is how like he did it. We just start going and I remember like there's guys just egging us on and we were just going toe to toe in the locker room. I remember once we were in the room and we were playing like we were just like, you know, play fight. Somebody would be like, all right, you guys should fight. We dropped the gloves, you know, fight, whatever.

Starting point is 00:39:11 But I remember one time it was after the game, we're in the family lounge and we're playing mini sticks with a bunch of kids and I just run Brady and I just run Brady and the numbers, you know, right from right cross check the back or right to the couch. So as the blues doctors and training staff had an easy night, nobody got hurt. So they're leaving the rank and my dad calls back and the team doctor comes grabs Brady and Brady had to get stitches. Those are some of the those are some of the shenanigans that we were up to at the rank. It was it was a blast.

Starting point is 00:39:44 Dude, mini sticks is such a freak. And that's all we used to do when Travis was playing like all the brothers we play mini sticks in where they used to store the nets. Right. But the nets are going on the ice. And then we go into that cage and we play mini sticks with each other. Our dad actually set up a mini stick or mini stick arena in our basement. He put plies. This wasn't anything special.

Starting point is 00:40:05 He just puts... No, at the time it was special. It was epic. It would be full contact. Mini-stinks down there. It was epic. We already know. Mini-stinks is a classic.

Starting point is 00:40:14 How much advice did Pop give you guys as far... and is he still giving you advice as far as like being a hockey player and navigating your careers? Yeah, he talks to us after every game. And the thing that he said, honestly, since we can remember Matthew and even to this day is there's two things just be a good teammate and just work your ass off. And those are the only two things that you can control. And, and just if you do that every single day, that goes to the next guy and that goes to the next guy and that's how you become a winning team and for Matthew, a Stanley Cup team and of course, Matthew has been so new to Florida but I think just

Starting point is 00:40:57 that mindset and that advice that he's brought in just was a breath of fresh air for that team and the reason why they're successful in Stanley Cup champs is because of Matthew and that mindset. So I think it just, you know, big wallet. He's got a lot of advice, but those two, he's always said right from a young age. That's awesome. He sounds like a fucking man.

Starting point is 00:41:17 I love that. You guys are making your dad sound like a fucking OG. I love it. How was it? How cool was it to get him to drink out of the Stanley Cup, man? Was that like, well, that had to be one of out of the Stanley Cup, man? We got some stories I know he's got It was

Starting point is 00:41:35 It was so special like he worked his ass off for 19 years and came close But ultimately didn't get to to finish the job So to me one of the coolest parts of that day, I'm sure Brady might remember it a little bit, but I remember like it vividly exactly what was going on. So you were obviously up three-oh, we blow a three-oh lead, we're going to game seven. And for some reason, like this day was just,

Starting point is 00:41:59 it was just a calmer day. Like it was just, I don't know why it probably shouldn't have been, but it just felt better. And I'm going to my car to drive to the rink and Brady and my dad walked me out. Don't say anything, just walk me to the car. And I thought that was just like, all right, they got my back, you know, no matter what happens. But you know, this is, this is important. And as I'm driving out, I just like, I just clues in with me. I'm like, I'm not only playing for myself and my teammates,

Starting point is 00:42:30 but like I'm playing for my family that have sacrificed absolutely everything for me. My dad has come so close. Brady has put in so much work and we'll get there one day, but like I'm playing for my whole family and everybody that's got me to this point. So that was like a super cool moment. And then the next coolest was, was after that game when we're on the ice, when I finally got to hug them all. And, and I

Starting point is 00:42:52 don't know how, but the cup got into my hands, like when all the families were out there and just me handing it to my dad, uh, that first time was a feeling that I'll, I'll never be able to, to really explain how I, to really explain how unbelievable it was. And then all the shenanigans in the locker room after it was just the cherry on top. But that was such an incredible day and one of the most amazing days of my life. And I was so happy I got to share it with my brother,

Starting point is 00:43:19 my sister, my parents, all the family. It was really cool. That's so awesome. Hell yeah, hell yeah. We talk about how the Stanley Cup is the coolest of all the fucking trophies, man. It's not even close. And the tradition where each player gets a chance

Starting point is 00:43:33 to have a day with them. And I just think it's, what the fuck did this guy just go? Dude, the Lou's out here hollering. Yeah, so did you take it back home with you? what was the, did you, did you get a day with it or a couple of days? How does, how did it work with you after you won it? Yeah. So, it was all like so fast.

Starting point is 00:43:53 I remember we won, I had like went to the Cape, Cape Cod to party for 4th of July, then went out in Tahoe, saw you guys there. Yeah. Right after, then right after Tahoe, like I had to race back to St. Louis because I got it like a couple days later. So it all happened so fast, but I was the lucky one. I got it for a day and a half. So I got to hit up everything I wanted to in St. Louis. I had, you know, an unreal party, people flying in from all over the country, family from everywhere, friends came back in town.

Starting point is 00:44:30 It was so cool. But the two things that I really, really wanted to do when I had Day with the Cup is one, I really wanted to bring it to the Children's Hospital, who it's been such a big, important charity in our family's life, going back to my dad, giving back and working with them throughout his career. And then Brady and I doing stuff in our respective city. So that was like number one, wanted to take it there. That's awesome. Love that. Love that. And then to like, I just really wanted like a few hours at some point a day where it was just my family and I, and just staring at the cup. Just just hanging out and like hearing the cup stories from the, you know, from the cup keeper. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:07 You know, hearing, you know, what was the craziest year craziest party? What'd this guy do with it? You know, where did this guy take it? And just hearing all the incredible things that this big silver trophy has been through. And now it's in my house and I get to hold it and lift it whenever I want. Like it was so surreal and I know it was just so special for me to have the support of all my family throughout the whole year. But like that day in the middle of summer, when it started to die down a little bit, was a truly incredible day.

Starting point is 00:45:37 And, and, you know, I can't wait to, uh, to try to compete for it again. Well, you got into some trouble to start with the cup keeper, bringing it into the ocean. Yeah. Well, you know you've gotten some trouble to start with the cup keeper bringing in Yeah, I didn't know he could either But I guess after you know after we won zero hours of sleep about 40 beers later. I took it into the ocean and yeah I guess it doesn't deal well with saltwater which makes sense I don't know the rules I mean we just won the thing 12 hours earlier

Starting point is 00:46:18 I'm not thinking about any rules yeah but they weren't too thrilled with me but yeah yeah, it's all good. We're good now. Nice. Nice. Yeah. That thing was actually in this basement that I'm in right now. I got to see it firsthand. I couldn't can't drink out of it unless you want it or with somebody who's won it. So, but I did get to look at it, which it's even more of a spectacle in person. This fucking jabroni. So congratulations for winning that. We did, we did have another, speaking of cups,

Starting point is 00:46:49 we did have another cup situation this off season. You brought up Tahoe. We got to see Travis's flip cup skills. Were you impressed with Travis's flip cup skills? Or he's a little bit of a, he's a flanker. You gotta be careful with him. I remember it was the first time I played the drinking game baseball. I've told the story because, you know, I don't know, one of the guys that we were playing with,

Starting point is 00:47:19 I know it was four on four. I know our team was Travis, Miles, teller, chase Crawford and myself. Yes. It was a BG Blake Griffin. Yeah. The mid. Oh, she and oh, and Baker. Yeah. So it was a it was kind of an iconic star. Yeah. And, and somebody's somebody's family member, I don't know who, but took a picture of it or something. I just remember every travel is like show. Hey, he was hitting home runs and stealing bases. He was the MVP. I was in that sounds like you're just hitting singles.

Starting point is 00:47:59 Hey, camaraderie guys on did guys on base. On base percentage. That's what it's all about. On base percentage. Yeah, that was a really fun, I mean, you guys know how fun that week was and I'm looking forward to this year again. Brady, are you going to make it out to tile this year?

Starting point is 00:48:16 I'll take a caddy job at this point. I don't have to have the stress of shanking at hidden people. It happens. If you make it out this year, Brady, we got us four, we got to get a mini sticks drinking I don't have to have the stress of shanking and hitting people. It has a beard. It happens. You make it up this year, Brady. We got us four. We got to get a mini sticks drinking game figured out. Well, you got to play some game revolving mini sticks and beer.

Starting point is 00:48:34 I'm in on that. I just absolutely I remember I remember Osh man. Oh, once we went to flip Cup, I started like kind of getting a little like bending the rules a little bit. Dude, he was not having it. I was like, I'm like, I'm one little like bending the rules a little bit dude. He was not having Like I'm one more like cheating like one more time cheating away from just getting fucking socks by my guy right here Fashion hockey fight right here and

Starting point is 00:49:03 Yeah, that was a fun fun night for sure we got a wrap up we're gonna ask a few we got to ask You don't have to answer that's the name of this segment. So we're going to ask questions. You don't have to answer them. You can tell us the fuck off whatever you want, but we are going to ask these questions. All right. You ready? Perfect growing up? Matthew. Matthew. Oldest. I don't I don't think so. I think no, I let's say Taryn. Let's let's go with the easy answer. There you go. She's the only girl in the family. So she she's the favorite. All right. You guys have a welcome to the NHL moment? We talk about this with football guys any moment that like is like, oh, wow. I'm in it. I'm doing this. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:50 I know for me, I was standing next to Alex Ovechkin. I was like, Oh my God. What is going on right now? I think he had like two goals that night. I'm like, I was dashed too. I'm like, all right, that's why I welcome to you into I'm going to go work on some stuff. That's a good one. I think mine was just first NHL game was in the new Edmonton rank. And they did like a passing of a torch moment right before we went on the ice where Gretzky had Messier or on the ice just like with the puck and they left it and then McDavid came flying off the bench and like took the puck and they left it and then McDavid came flying off the bench and like took the puck and scored in the building erupted.

Starting point is 00:50:28 I'm like, I can't be here right now. You just gave me chills just thinking about that shit. Holy crap. I'm like, there's no way I'm in the right place right now. It gives me... I just said that was, so that was mine. But also I played Ovechkin a few weeks after and same story as Brady. He's like, welcome to NHL, kid.

Starting point is 00:50:48 And I'm like, how does he and he's a he's a big man, too. So that was that was cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's because the man if you if you guys drop gloves on the ice between you. To or maybe even you and your dad. Who's winning out of you three? Brady, I'll save you a trouble. I'll answer this for both of you. I don't need you to stuff me a locker with your answer. Uh I would go I would go Brady, my dad, me.

Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah. One, two, three. Yeah All right, Brady. Who's taking it? You or your dad? I don't know. That would be that. There's a mental advantage that dad has in that. Yeah. Oh, he definitely, he has me on that aspect. He'll probably want to go with him. No chance, Brady. I got you. I got you. You don't have to be nice. I got you in that. Hey, thanks, bro. All right. What's the more physical sport, hockey or football? Oh, I mean, football, because get hit every single play. Like hockey, there's shifts where you might not get hit

Starting point is 00:51:58 and might just be skating around, but football, it's every single play. I will say, though, the hardest I still have ever been hit is on the ice and multiple times, like when you get a hospital pass and you're just going across the middle and you get it open ice, not ready for it, there is nothing that hurts and I didn't play receiver. Travis has been hit going over the middle. It's got to be similar to that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm thinking about like a slant route for me. I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna get hit down. That ice is hard. I mean, it's like concrete. It is. I don't know. What do you think, Trav? You've you've got both.

Starting point is 00:52:35 You've had a hospital pass and been hit on a like a route like that. I didn't play the hardest I've ever been hit on the ice is like against you in practice. I was like 6'1", 6'2", on skates in eighth grade. Like I was always the biggest kid. So there was nobody really like, throwing me around yet. But yeah, I've had my fair share of fucking knockout blows coming over the middle for sure. Yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:53:04 I wouldn't know. If the Kel Kelsey's in the Kachucks switch sports Who's better at the other sport? For sure you guys at hog. There's no chance you need to watch me try and skate You guys have the size you guys have the size and the intimidation Brady and I would just be like size and the intimidation. Brady and I would just be like, you guys are six, two and six, four. What do you mean? You guys are big dudes. We'd be, we'd be very slow compared to everybody. Oh no, but we would you guys play? What was it? Let me ask you that.

Starting point is 00:53:37 What position do you guys think you would play? Brady's probably built for your got a little tight end and you Brady, I think tight end, D and, baby. I can see that. And then I think I'm linebacker. Throw that down. Oh, yeah. Just let them know. Middle linebacker. All heart, baby. All heart.

Starting point is 00:53:57 A middle linebacker that wants some goal line offensive plays for a touchdown. There we go. I got to do one of those. Give me a vocal. Little Mikey Braves in there, man. Who talks the best shit on the ice, man? I mean, Matthew.

Starting point is 00:54:11 I know he's churt me in a game before. I'm like, oh my God. I'm your brother. You just rattled me. So I'm giving him. In Calgary, when you churt me, go hop on the bike in between periods. Am I conditioning that bad? I just was like, I'm struggling.

Starting point is 00:54:31 I guess I am really struggling out here. I just know Brady, I actually do remember, but I just know that that would actually affect him and I can't believe it did. This is great. Yeah. It's surprising. There's not I'm like. This is great. Yeah, it's surprising. Like there's not much chirping in the NHL anymore. It's just, it's kind of like a lost art.

Starting point is 00:54:52 I mean, people just don't really do it that much. I think the intimidation factor is more of the chirp itself than the actual word. So I think Brady's pretty good at that as well. Is there a hockey slang that people should use more? I feel like if you're around hockey players enough, you kind of hear like the natural, like, I don't know, like slang and just like lingo that you guys use

Starting point is 00:55:16 on the ice. And it's like, I don't know, it's so fun to be around, especially when you guys are competing. I don't know. I just, I feel like there's definitely something like that. I didn't know if you guys had any fun shit for us. No, I mean, the only thing I could think of is like, I feel like we always say is like beauty and fella.

Starting point is 00:55:32 Oh yeah. And like little things like that. Like just like that. I always thought you'd be like, What a beauty. I love that. You're such a beauty. And that's really all I can like.

Starting point is 00:55:42 It's so funny though. Like, I feel like when you say that to people though, sometimes it could be a chirp. It's like, oh Brady, you're a beauty. Like you're sick. It's used both ways. That's probably our favorite one because it can mean so many different ways, I guess. I'm stealing it. I'm stealing it.

Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm stealing it. For sure. You're such a beauty-trap. Last one. Yeah, you're a fucking beaut. I'll tell you what. Yeah, we we have a stat here for through the first 400 games. You guys lined up with your dad and the penalty minutes are fucking off the charts through 400 games.

Starting point is 00:56:22 Brady, you're at five at 588 which is fucking ridiculous Matthew you're at 395 but your dad has had a staggering 1000 I mean play for 19 seasons how many 10-minute misconducts get I thought I had a lot at the end of game I'm telling rough side give me a ten I'm out. You thought I had a lot at the end of the game. I'm telling rough side, give me a 10. I'm out of here. But he must have done it every other game. Beat the traffic. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:50 You guys think you'll ever catch that by the end of your careers? I mean, he's got 2000, I think in total. I don't know. I mean, get to a thousand to win. But about 2000 is a tough one to beat. That's crazy. Oh, man. I think I think my dad's most impressive stat is he scored 50 goals, which is insane. He scored it twice in a season.

Starting point is 00:57:14 So one of the years he had 200 penalty minutes with it. So it's like it's like, damn, dad, like you put that number at 100. Like you might have scored 60. You might have stayed on the fucking ice. He's a scorn in the box. like, damn dad, like you put that number at 100, like you might've scored 60. You would've stayed on the fucking ice. He's either a scorer or in the box. There's no other option. That Joe is like, fuck, I wasn't thinking of that. That's my kind of player right there.

Starting point is 00:57:34 That's my kind of player. Jason notoriously leads, you know, it still has the record for Ohio state hockey for penalty minutes. High school. Nope. Can't tell me any different. Jason can't tell me that's that wrong. You led the state. All right. Fair enough.

Starting point is 00:57:52 What's the greatest hockey movie of all time? Miracle. Yeah, dude. It's hard to talk. Number one. We watched it before the Canada game till the in the first one. We had six of us and like a it was almost like we're back to like youth hockey. Yeah, six guys in

Starting point is 00:58:08 my room is watching Miracle and it was so awesome. I did we fucking love that movie growing up man. My one of my favorites sneak I know I love you're right. But one of my sneaky favorites is a mystery Alaska. That one that was like, dude, I will, I gotta watch that. I haven't seen that one in forever, but that was one of my favorites. That was a great one. I'm still a slap shot. I'm a slap shot.

Starting point is 00:58:33 Did you guys, oh, so funny. Did you guys, did you guys, did you guys, like, grow up, skate on the outdoor rink ever? Like, did you guys? Never. Never skated on the outdoor. Yeah, so like, Mystery Alaska is like, it's like a myth to us. Yeah. Wonder world. Yeah. But yeah, no, it's, that's a funny one. Uh, everyone was calling Brady and I, you know, comparing us to that.

Starting point is 00:58:56 They had some brothers. Yeah. Their faces on their bodies. I was, I don't know if we were that crazy, but maybe we were a little bit. Dude, those dudes were bat shit crazy man. So fucking good man. The best is when the ref comes up to them during the anthem and basically saying no antics tonight. They're in their bloody noses. All screwed up already. Hilarious.

Starting point is 00:59:21 Once again, We Got to Ask is brought to you by Mentos Gum. Well boys, that does it for us man. We got nothing for you guys. We got nothing else for you guys. I mean, man can't thank you enough representing the USA representing the good brothers of America. Yep. In sports, man, brotherhood. You guys make us, you know, it's it was so fun watching you guys and still watching you guys, you know, chase after the cup this year, man, but it's so fun watching you guys and still watching you guys chase after the cup this year, man, but it's so cool seeing the family dynamic before the championship of the Four Nations game

Starting point is 00:59:53 with your dad, your mom, and you two sitting down. It was so cool for me to relate, knowing that I had something similar with Jason going into the Super Bowl, which was as close as we ever got on the field. So it was, it's just awesome. You guys do it the right way. You could tell you guys' family is amazing and so happy for you guys, man. Good luck chasing the cup this year and appreciate you guys coming on, man. Thanks a lot, boys. Yeah. Thank you, Frank. Two beauties, two beauties right here.

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Starting point is 01:02:02 my favorite energy drink, Accelerator. Yeah, Accelerate it Yeah, Accelerator. It's absolutely delicious. And I bring it with me everywhere I go. I literally bring at least two cases on every plane I go on. Well, Trav, I don't know where you have been bringing Accelerator, but any place cool lately? I've taken it everywhere that I've been, Jason. But I do take it absolutely everywhere.

Starting point is 01:02:25 And I drink it at least once a day. I just don't feel like myself anymore without drinking it. That's how much of a part of my life it is now. Many are saying that this is by far the best energy drink in the market. Speaking of market, you can go and get this can that I am sipping right now at Hy-Vee, Giant Eagle, HEB, and Quick Trick. Go stack up on the energy drink that uses 100% natural caffeine

Starting point is 01:02:50 and accelerates your metabolism without the sugar crash. What a pair of good brothers right there. Absolutely. Dude, I might actually put on a plaque, just be a good teammate and work hard. Dude, seriously. That's what it's about. And that's what I love about hockey, man.

Starting point is 01:03:06 I love the mentality of those guys. Every single one of them is so selfless, man. They represent a league and a sport that just has a great spirit to it. So couldn't be more proud of Team USA, even though they didn't pull it out. They fought hard. That's all. I mean, listen, they worked hard and they represented the country well. And they're great teammates. There we go. Bam. I'm fucking with that. You already know, man. And I don't know why, man. I just want to

Starting point is 01:03:31 fucking have a fucking few more beers with my guy, Matthew, man. Get Brady down there to Tahoe. That shit would fucking be so cool. What's a good game with mini sticks? You remember how we used to play hockey where you would slap slap shot the quarter into the can? Dude, yeah. We should just play that game with mini sticks. And these things get some mini sticks that should would get so dangerous. And then get quarters and then you just slap the quarter at the can.

Starting point is 01:03:51 If you hit the can, you got to drink. Yeah, I think this is a that's an awesome game. I'm with it. We can make it up. I don't give a shit. I got time. There's something about the world of hockey that I just feel like it's a hidden gem, man. We got to get we got to get some more of the greats on here, man. What if we get Wayne Gretzky? We get the great one on here. Yeah. I mean, obviously we'll take the best high school. Yeah. Man, some absolute legends.

Starting point is 01:04:16 That was one thing I was like always so jealous of you being in Philly. Of what? The Flyers? Dude, just having, being able to go and watch the Flyers, even going down to Xfinity the year we did and watching the game down there. That was so much fucking fun, man. I mean, that was one of the few years, unfortunately, that they made the playoffs. I mean, and I love Claude Giroux and I was actually just talking with Scott Hartnell, who's back in the area about getting out on the ice because it's been a long time. I want to start getting the girls out on the ice. But yeah, I am all in on interviewing

Starting point is 01:04:48 hockey guys. Yeah, and Gretzky, he is hockey. It's the great one. All right. Perfect. Well, thank you to Matthew and Brady Kachuck. You guys are awesome. Best of luck the rest of the year. Should we bring a hockey team to Kansas City? Dude, what? Fuck yes. I've been fucking on that train year. Should we bring a hockey team to Kansas City? Dude, what? Fuck yes. I've been fucking on that train for a while. I don't know if Kansas City loves it as much as I do.

Starting point is 01:05:09 We got a minor league team. Did you just have you and Pat Mahomes be a part of the team? I mean, Pat's already doing the women's soccer team so you guys can just do a hockey team as well. Dude, we have a minor league hockey team, the KC Mavericks. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 01:05:25 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I know a basketball team though. Kansas City. What's some, what's a really specific Kansas City? I mean, there's obviously barbecue, but there's got to be something else.

Starting point is 01:05:50 What is Kansas City? Kansas City cattle. Dude. And you just got the Kansas City Bulls. Kansas City, beefs. Steers. Oh, steer. I got the beef is dope. That's a great one. Kansas City beef.

Starting point is 01:06:08 Kansas City beef. That's actually fucking great. Do you know? Let me ask you this. What do you guys refer to when there's like a football slang for offensive lineman out in space? Do you know what that's called? Like you see a big fat guy out there in space, can't really run very well. It's like, oh man, that guy looks like a cow on ice. You've never heard that phrase? Never in my life have I ever heard that. Dude, that's maybe that's something specific

Starting point is 01:06:35 to the O-line room, but yeah, cows on ice is like on screen, you just see a bunch of big guys out there. They can't really move around, kind of look like they're sliding around a little bit. Cows on ice is what we call them. God damn. Now I want to see what a cow on ice looks like. Cows on ice.

Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. If you need a minority investor, I'll invest in the KC beef. That's actually fucking cool. You think Pat, just Pat like hockey? Pat's here for any competitive sport. Yeah. Yeah, he's here for it all. I don't know if he's ever been to a game, but he definitely got

Starting point is 01:07:09 fired up for the Four Nations. That's for sure. I mean, who did he was watching that one? Yeah. All right now, let's get some no dumb questions. No dumb questions is brought to you by Intuit Turbo Tax. Now, this is taxes. All right from at clode underscore TV.

Starting point is 01:07:24 No question from down under here. Does Jay Scales. this is taxes. All right from at clode underscore TV. No, no question from down under here. Does Jay skills. I think that this be a mascot for an insurance company has any resemblance to him. This is a very important matter. We would love to see travel. Travel get some love travel get some. Yeah, I think the thing looks just like me. I mean, you're not much of a Chuck's guy. But yeah, you that mean that's pretty spot on to you. Same kind of like little like

Starting point is 01:07:47 little button nose and they were really makes sense. Look at the eyebrows. Yeah, the eyebrows are everything. That's a dead giveaway. This thing. The eyebrows and the wrinkles on the forehead are a dead giveaway. They they saw you and saw marketing. I'm telling you, there's something about me that people like to take my likeness with mask gritty. I will take this to my grave. Gritty was started the year after the parade. That thing looks fucking just like me. If you were to maskify Jason Kelsey, you make

Starting point is 01:08:14 his gritty. It's the it's the flyers mascot. And now this thing, look at the hair. That's Ed Kelsey hair right there. Yeah. And that's Jason Kelsey. It looks like too. I know. This is, I mean, as of right now, Bo, Bo Allen and I are thinking about doing a little fitness challenge. Little ozempic. Well, I might do that. Tell me that thing is not my likeness. Shut the fuck up. They stole it. Look at those eyebrows. It looks nothing like you. You mean to tell me after the parade, the flyers come out just so happen To come out with a mascot that looks like that. It looks nothing like you your beard isn't like that Your eyebrows are aggressive, but they're not that they'll never admit it

Starting point is 01:08:56 This thing is just they fucking modeled this thing after me. You know ridiculous shut off the trev though Hopefully his insurance company is fucking killing it. All right. Next up question from at jdubs8397. Answer this question. When making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, do you put them on separate pieces or spread them together? I am not a psychopath.

Starting point is 01:09:21 I put the jelly on one side and the peanut butter on the other side and then put them together. Nobody in their right fucking mind spreads peanut butter and jelly on one slice and then puts a, that's just not how it's done. Is that real? Nobody fucking does that. Is that real? Nobody does that.

Starting point is 01:09:39 There's no way anybody does that. Why would you put the jelly on the peanut? Do you put so do you put the peanut butter on the jelly? You'd have to go jelly on peanut butter, right? No, yeah, you have to go. You have to do a layer of peanut butter than the jelly. I don't know why you were to do that. But that doesn't make sense.

Starting point is 01:09:56 You don't understand. You wouldn't get a smooth, like easy spread. It would be making your job harder. It feels like there's more control and it's easier to determine how much is going on if it's done on different pieces of bread. Yeah, there's something that sounds really off about putting the peanut butter and the jelly on the same side. I mean, I guess that's kind of that's how I build a sandwich.

Starting point is 01:10:19 Like if I'm building like, like ham, lettuce, tomato, cheese, like all that would be piled on top of the same thing. But then I put the mayonnaise on the bread on the average you have to spread. Yeah, you have to whatever you have to spread has to go on like a piece of bread even surface. Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, because it's just easier to spread it. You're not like contaminating the layers. Yeah, you're not fucking up your masterpiece.

Starting point is 01:10:45 I hate a sloppy sandwich, man. I like I like my shit nice and fucking perfect. I like a sloppy nice little sloppy cheese stick. You get cheese all over your face. You feel that's good. You like that shit with whiz. I like it with American but I will eat it with whiz. It's actually not bad if you try it.

Starting point is 01:11:05 Nacho cheese and bread is ridiculous. I'm not a big whiz cheese whiz person, but whiz on a cheese steak isn't bad. I've had it before. Definitely prefer American. Do this another thing. I want to figure out how to make the best burger. There's something about cheeseburgers that I just love. Come on over. I'll teach you.

Starting point is 01:11:22 I want Andy to teach me, so I want to teach me. I want Andy Reed to show me this,. He's gotta know the best cheeseburger he's ever had. Yeah, I'm with you. Any type of spread goes right on top of the bread. On the bread only, yeah. Anytime you gotta spread something, you put it on the bread. Yeah, I think it's-

Starting point is 01:11:39 If you're gonna spread, put it on the bread. There we go, it's a simple rule. Andy's easy to follow. And that does it for No Dumb Questions brought to you by Intuit TurboTags. You wanna get into a little bit of the new heights off season? Tell the 92% of what we got coming up

Starting point is 01:11:54 or like maybe some of the things that we have in store or thinking about doing? Do we have anything in store? No, we don't. So let's just create it right here. Just speak things into existence. What would be fun is going up to Green Bay, going up to Green Bay for the draft maybe. That'd be fun. That might be a good time. Get a few of the draftees maybe that are, see who's up there. I'm sure there'll be a few familiar

Starting point is 01:12:22 faces from the legendary Green Bay Packers that we could find a way to get a hold of. Be in on that. Outside of that, I mean, we said the great one. It would be great to get the great one on here. Maybe even- How about all the great ones? I mean, Jordan, old Tom Brady maybe.

Starting point is 01:12:40 Gosh, that'd be fun to talk to Tom. Yes, I will talk to all these people. Yeah, I'm in on that. Talk to Tom about how he dealt with not winning Super Bowls. Fuck. Multiple Super Bowls. Yeah. Give it up to get some more brothers. We've talked about the Watt brothers before. I still think we need to get out on the ice with the Watt brothers, especially after talking to the Kachucks. We need to get on the ice with JJ and TJ and then do a podcast on the ice.

Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. I'm with that. That'd be electric. I think they'd be in too. I know JJ would be in. Yeah. He's been skating a bunch. Yeah. No, we need to kind of get our bearings before we go out there. We can't go out there looking like a bunch of fucking jemokes. What about some golf stuff? We did Tahoe last year. We both like golf. Maybe get Tiger. I mean, Tiger's obviously the funnest name that we can think of. Give my guy

Starting point is 01:13:30 Bryson. Give my guy old Bruxy Kepka. There we go. There we go. I know you and John Rahm are close. Ever since you destroyed his range finder. I don't even want to. I love John. John's a great guy. I just I can't look him in the eyes. I feel like ashamed every time. Hey John, you didn't tell anybody about that, did you? Here's the events that I want to do with you. I want to do draft would be great to do with you. If you if we're up for it. I want to do the Derby with Travis Kelce this year. Now that you're officially a horse owner. I want to do the Derby with Travis Kelce. Come on, I'll show you the reins.

Starting point is 01:14:07 All right, perfect. Perfect. No pun intended. Ha! Yeah. I learned from the best. The Zeldens are the best. What other events? Stanley Cup? I mean, I'm in on doing the Cup, the Larry O'Brien show, we can go NBA, NHL. We can do all this. We can do all this. Well, then what do we do? So let's just are we just gonna do

Starting point is 01:14:26 every event we can't do every everybody always tells me I'm overexposed. I can't do everything. Well, what else are you doing? Right now? I'm kind of like leaving it wide open because everybody keeps telling me to go away. So I'm just going away for a little bit. Yeah, I feel the same way. No, we we will not go away and we will continue to do this. We

Starting point is 01:14:46 will force you to like us. How about this? What about obscure sports? Because you and I both love obscure things. All right, what's obscure though? Do you want to go hit the horseshoe championship in Topeka, Kansas? I've been there, done that. I would first of all, yes, I do want to do that. Second of all, we've talked about curling. I ran to Jared Allen down in New Orleans after he just got inducted into the Hall of Fame. Nice. He has a curling establishment in Nashville.

Starting point is 01:15:15 That'd be fun to go visit. I fuck around with try your hand curling then maybe talk to one of the best defensive ends of all time. I'm down to do some interactive stuff like going cornhole hobby horsing. We got to comment a hobby horsing tournament. I'm not doing that. That's where that's that's where I draw the line. Come on, Trev. That's why I draw the line. I'm not going to sit here and make fun of kids, Jason. How else do you comment hobby horsing? How else do you comment hobby or see? How about this darts tournament? 180 come on now.

Starting point is 01:15:51 I am so down. I'm so down. You want to go catch some some soccer some international football some of the old. Yeah, I'll go watch some soccer. Can you get the premier game or like Wrexham or Burnley? Really? Check out JJ Watts. It's from everything I've seen and heard like Wrexham or Burnley? Check out JJ Watts? From everything I've seen and heard on Wrexham, I am in. Burnley, I'm in.

Starting point is 01:16:10 I'm in on all this. Yes. The key is finding the time. Sounds like we're in on everything. 92%ers, why don't you guys? Help us narrow this down. What do you think we would be good at? Yeah, we want to do stuff for you guys and what interests you guys over the summer. So out of everything we said, or even some stuff that we haven't mentioned yet that you think would be a fun for us to go and see or check out or give the inside scoop for you guys, just let us know. Please send us ideas.

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Starting point is 01:17:34 Jason, the only way you can find yourself in the light is to find yourself in the dark first. Right. I listen to music that is very telling of my mood. Yes. I go to like sad country songs. Yeah, I just listen to Taylor's music. She has something for everything. That's fair. That's a good point. No matter what mood you can find some Taylor music. Yeah. And how the Eagles broke my heart. No matter how bad I'm feeling, there's a country guy that's singing about it

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New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Matt & Brady Tkachuk on 4 Nations Face-Off, Partying with The Cup & Art of Hockey Fights | Ep 125

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