New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Matt & Brady Tkachuk on 4 Nations Face-Off, Partying with The Cup & Art of Hockey Fights | Ep 126

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

92%ers we are back with another episode of New Heights presented by Suave: No Nonsense Self-Care for Men! Join us for a beauty of an episode, fresh off the 4 Nations Face-Off we’ve got Matthew and Brady Tkachuk! Matt and Brady recap everything about the 4 Nations tournament including how they felt watching each other drop the gloves against Canada, what they talked about in the penalty box, the secrets of hockey fights, and what’s next for hockey fandom in the USA. We also get into the Tkachuk’s path to the NHL, growing up the sons of a hockey legend, Travis “cheating” at drinking games, and the greatest chirp they’ve ever heard. Finally, we discuss Travis’ new movie, Jason’s time at the Eagles parade, a Gritty conspiracy theory, and we ask the 92%ers to help us plan our offseason. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ...Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwFollow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowCheck out all of our new merch’ at https://homage.com/newheightsSupport the Show:  SUAVE: Suave Men: No Nonsense Self-Care for Men. Find NEW deodorants in stores https://a.co/d/iSEEdwnMY DEAD FRIEND ZOE: Only in theaters this Friday! Buy Tickets Now. https://www.mydeadfriendzoemovie.com/MENTOS: Yes to Fresh with Mentos Gum https://www.amazon.com/mentos TURBO TAX: Now This is Taxes. Brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Visit https://turbotax.intuit.com/ AUDIBLE: Sign up for a free 30-day trial at http://audible.com/newheights  ALLSTATE: Checking first is smart. So, check https://Allstate.com first for a quote that could save you hundreds.ACCELERATOR: Click the link below to get a case of the Kelce Brothers’ favorite energy drink!https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/FB06B38E-F0C2-479F-9DA5-FD4A1C852B07?channel=NewHeights2025See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What's the art of the hockey fight? I'm going to take this question off because Brady would kick my ass. There you got it. He's got a little reach advantage. I feel the same way about Trave. A little wiry motherfucker. They ain't getting in a fucking cage with you. I told Jason, I was like, we ever played the Eagles?

I was fucking coming out there. I was going to drop the gloves with him. That would have been electric. To do whites, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by SWOL. Bob. No nonsense. Self-care for men. How about that?

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At New Heights Show with 1S for funclips throughout the week, and Jason, tell the 92 percenters, what we got coming up. We're back! That's right. After one week off, we are back to you every Wednesday, short, hiatus. Rejuvenated, baby. Rejuvenated. That's right.

We're going to get you guys caught up on everything we did last week, which wasn't that much. But either way, we're going to get you caught up. We also got some no-dum questions, and we got a great conversation coming up with the brothers of Team USA hockey and the NHL. The Kachuk brothers are with us today. So I can't wait to dive into that. But first, as always, let's start with a little bit of that at new news. News is brought to you by my dead friend Zoe. Travis.

That is correct. Yeah, what do we got going on here, Trap? Well, I helped support this film from a distance. It's about the military. It's about veterans coming back from war, specifically Afghanistan, and having to deal with, you know, the problems of losing somebody in war that they went to combat with. Oh, wow. It's a beautiful story.

I think it's something that, you know, a lot of veterans deal with when they come back home. And I thought it was, it was obviously a star studded with people like Morgan Freeman, Ed Harris, Suniqua Martin Green, and Natalie Morales. I think it was just, it was, it made sense to help support this film. And it is getting absolutely great reviews. And it is out this Friday. Well, I can't wait to go watch this thing. This sounds awesome. Jason, you ended up getting into a little fun with our guys Fitz and Whit. Fits and Witt. Yeah, jumped on the couch with the boys. I did. That was actually, we jumped on that before the Super Bowl down there in New Orleans. New Orleans.

But yeah, those guys are awesome. You know, we love both of them. We were out there in Tahoe last year with them. And it feels like we've just hung out even more since then. So always good to chop it up with both those guys. They're great personalities. They're funny. They're engaging. I was happy to hop on the show with them. Dude, one of my favorite stories, Fitz is over there talking about the night that the whole gang came over to my house in K. K.C. like three years ago. after the Thursday night game it was so unexpected yeah so unexpected for them to actually show up i was like dude there's no way they're actually going to show up i sent them the address and they all pull up and i'm just like having the best time with them and i was like a little kid in the candy store i'm pretty sure we won the game and i was on you know had had the whole crew over the house including

everybody that was in the suite that's awesome i just remember right going up into the attic and just grabbing the most like like all the shit I'm trying to hide from everybody like random like artwork and like portraits and like t-shirts and like t-shirts and shit and it was just so funny he's just walking around the place like he owned it every time he came down the steps it was with something even more embarrassing than the last that's hilarious good man the guy's the absolute best and if you haven't watched are you smarter than a celebrity Fitzpatrick is the fucking man Hell yeah. Fitzmagic is he's a Harvard grad, so he's absolutely brilliant.

He's witty, and he made it so much fun to be a part of that show with him. So make sure you guys check out, are you smarter than a celebrity with me and him and him? Good old prime video, baby. Oh, yeah, baby. Love that, love that. Jason, you want to talk about the parade you were at, dude? You went to a parade out there in Philly, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Listen, Philadelphia knows how to do parades. There's a few things they know how to do. extremely well, parades is one of them. Whether it's a members parade or a parade after an Eagle Super Bowl, it was absolutely electric. There's something really, like, and you know this from the prairies that you've had in KC, but there's something so just incredible about sharing in a moment with that many people.

Yeah. Right? Like millions of people are lining one street in Philadelphia and down at the Art Museum steps. And it's so apparent how much joy and pleasure you as a football player or you, you did as a football player and now this team who just won it this year was able to provide for an entire city. And I just think it's one of the things that is just like beyond awesome to be at. And for me, like, I don't know, it was, I got to see the guys before they went out on the

parade. I went down to the stadium, got to hang out with them. It was chopping it up with, you know, a lot of the offensive linemen, especially, stout and people that I had spent a lot of time with in Philadelphia, got to congratulate a lot of former players, Jalen Hertz. you know, Nick Siriani. So it was, it was an awesome day for me to just like kind of appreciate as well as the fan base. Then Seleck and I, we went on a different route.

We were like, all right, we're not going to go on the buses. We're just going to kind of meet those guys down there. We went to the oldest bar in Philadelphia, McGillens, and proceeded to then try and just walk to the art museum steps. Big mistake, nearly impossible. We had to like, we got chauffered there by some cops and stuff like that. that found our way there and we're able to, I don't know, it was just, it was just a lot of fun. We're running throughout the crowd. People are going crazy. You know, we're seeing the buses and all the guys and like Nolan Smith is having himself one hell of a day. And it was just,

it was really fun to be a part of and see those guys be able to, you know, experience it for their first time, especially the guys that weren't there. But last time we wanted to see the city that galvanized around the team was incredible to see as well. Yeah, it's always beautiful, man. but I tell you what, I saw Selly before the game. Yes. I don't know how long it's been since I saw, man, but just to see him on the sideline and to give a big old hug, man, I miss that fucking big bear dude.

He's such a good dude. He is. And it was awesome seeing him and seeing Connor on the sideline. There's so many people in that fucking organization that I absolutely love. CB. CB finally got a Super Bowl. How about that, man? Happy as hell for him, man.

Yeah, man. He'd been hunting for that. a long time. It was really great for a lot of the people in the organization, for everybody, but like especially people that, you know, you're there for a long time with or you're there who haven't had one yet. And then all of a sudden they get that. And the celebration going down Broad Street, man, there ain't nothing better than it. It's, I mean, people are going crazy. Try to, at one point, try to walk through Love Park. And it's, I mean, I don't know. It was just, it was, it was absolute mayhem. Absolutely mayhem. So, yeah, Philadelphia's got parades figured out.

That's for damn sure. I love it. Well, there's another celebration and it's today. Bennett turned two today. That's right. You guys are getting ready to bring in another baby girl. Little Benny turns two today.

And what do you guys got planned for her? So she's actually, unfortunately, we're doing the podcast. So she's at the alpaca right now without me. We've kind of been celebrating it last night and today. But yeah, Benny's, she is so funny right now. And she's at that age where, she responds, it can talk, but she doesn't always know what she's saying. And it's just adorable.

And like, I don't know, it's, it's hard to explain, but it's, it's fantastic to interact with her on a daily basis. And that's cool. Seeing the learning process and like the curiosity of a child all manifesting is just, that's probably my favorite part about being a parent is just watching a child figure things out and being there with them while they're doing that. And like how amazing something as simple as like figuring out how to open up the fridge or, you know, whatever it is, every day there's going to be something that just blows her mind that you take advantage of every single day as a grown up. And you're like, oh, my God, this just made this little kid's entire day was figuring out how to screw, unscrew a water bottle.

Right now that's all she's doing the rest of the day. And it's like the best thing ever. So anyways, Benny's doing great. Happy birthday to Benny. Happy B day. By the time the next kid is. year we'll have a five-year-old, a four-year-old, a two-year-old, and a newborn. So we're in the thick of it.

We're in the think of it big time. It's going to be crazy. I still don't know how we're going to handle four, but it's going to be intense. Hell yeah. You guys would be great. I can't wait to fucking get up in there and have some fun with those girls and to hand them right back to you. All right.

That's the benefit of the uncle. Uncle Travis. Well, we got some updates for the Heights hotline. Yeah, we do. We love all our voicemails that we get from you guys. on a specific topic. But we got a new one for you. This time, the topic is going to be parenting advice.

That's right. From a soon-to-be father of four and a father of zero. Dude, I can give you some advice, though, for sure. No, Travis's great advice. He's a great uncle. Outstanding uncle, you know, kind of like a father, step-in-out belief father. Like, you're a little bit up there. We had the best uncle in the world, man.

Still got the best uncle in the world. Uncle Don? Big Don. Big Don, Uncle Don. Solid Uncle. Dude, one of my favorite people in the entire world, man. He would wheel us around. He would just like spin us around like we were in a circus.

We thought it was the best thing in the world. He throws us up in the air. Yeah, Uncle Don's the best. We will answer some of these not-um questions on an upcoming Wondery Plus bonus episode called Heights Hotline. Look forward to that. Don't know that you want to take any of our advice as we give with anything from the hotline,

please don't take anything we say seriously. But we will be offering it up if you want to listen to it. I'm so serious. You listen to me. I got some shit figured out. That's it for your new news brought to you by my dead friend Zoe, only in theaters starting this Friday. So make sure you guys check this thing out in theaters, baby.

Without further ado, let's take a look at the Matt Kachuk and Brady Kachuk interview. All right. Dude, Jason, you want to get this fucking thing rolling? And do the intro? Let's do it, Bubba. Let's get it. All right.

Our guest today from St. Louis, Missouri, with a combined 16 seasons in the NHL, six all-star appearances, one all-star game MVP, a Stanley Cup championship. We have the brothers of the NHL, Matthew and Brady Kachuk. Welcome to the show, baby. I love the energy. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. I'm up now, boys.

guys thanks so much for joining us first of all how are we doing what an electric freaking tournament how are you guys feeling it's kind of set in finally we've had a few days to really reflect on it the bodies are you know took a little bit of a toll um you know so much for people thinking it was going to be an all-star game that was a tough coffee as uh i mean i've played in the stanleuk finals last year and it was it was the exact same so it was very fun um highlight for me was getting a chance to play with Brady though it was uh it was such an incredible time and and something that we're going to look back on forever now was this yeah man was this your guy's first time playing together brady i don't know you guys grow up playing together or was it too

far apart yeah we're we're too far apart this is we played in florida the the all-star game but that was just all fun and and enjoying it but this was you got the gear right yeah rolling right into the fire and honestly it was the best hockey experience i've i've ever had it it was so cool unreal so i'm not sure when exactly did they start doing the four nations tournament for uh for all the football like listeners that we got on here instead of the all-star game they went with the four nations tournament right yeah this this was the first year this was the first year i was about to say i don't remember this happening ever before yeah it's because it's for some reason you know nine years since there's a best on best tournament and i think they wanted to to kind of bring a little

energy for the Olympics next year since, you know, the NHL guys are back going to the Olympics. And I think the NHL, NHLPA did an unbelievable job. And I know it blew, like we were talking about it blew the expectations right of the water. It was so awesome. Yeah, I mean, Trab was talking about it. I don't, I haven't seen the general country as excited for hockey as much as it was for this last year. And there's a lot of politics at play and other things that made it even more intense on the ice for you guys. but I love when hockey is that relevant.

It's exciting. It's freaking aggressive. There was passion out there. Everybody loved what you guys are putting out there for Team USA. And the product. The games were fucking fun as fuck to watch outside. You know what I mean? The two brawls or the three brawls within the first, like,

in the game. Dude, it was electric the entire tournament. And I think that, you know, me and Jason grew up playing hockey. I don't know if you guys knew this, but Jason played through high school. I only played up to eighth grade. And don't get me wrong, it was just like double A hockey. It wasn't anything too crazy.

But it was one of the most fun sports that I played growing up. And I wish I would have fucking stayed on the ice just because of how much fun you have when you get out there. Did you guys like grow up playing other sports or was it just hockey? Because I know the road to the NHL isn't your traditional road where typically guys go through like the high school ranks and everything like that. Like they go through juniors up in Canada. There's a lot of different like avenues you can go. Yeah. What was it?

What was it like growing up playing hockey? Yeah, so my parents never let us play one sport year-round or like just one sport in general. Like they're genius. My dad obviously played 19 years in the NHL. And he just, he just, I remember him telling us at such a young age, you have to be well-rounded. Like, you have to enjoy going from, you know, one group of friends to your other group of friends, you know, in the baseball season, the summer, you know, your school soccer. team. What else do we play basketball, soccer,

lacrosse? We played every super thing that you could. Sounds like our childhood right there. You could get your hands on. I mean, we'd swing the sticks and play some golf in the summer. But I remember like after hockey season, we might have played a few spring tournaments, maybe one summer tournament just to like, I don't know, hang out with some

friends. And other than that, hockey bag was throw it in the garage and, you know, we'll see it again in September, October. So I think like I got to give our parents a ton of credit for that because, one, all these kids nowadays are getting burnt out early, and they're almost getting forced to play it, and I don't even know if they love it. And I think that it just helped grow our love for hockey more because, you know, when you're playing other sports and we're having so much fun, like, you're almost excited again for hockey season.

So I give them a lot of credit for that. I don't think we played just hockey until, I don't know, Brady, when we went to the U.S. team at 15. Like, that might have been, that might have been going to the high school. Yeah, like, we both. played. We had similar paths. So we both went to the U.S. team for our softers. Yeah. So it's U.S. juniors. It's the U.17 and U.18 national team in Ann Arbor, which was huge for us, like, and all the best players in the country are coming together, competing, practicing

together, just, I don't know, making everybody better. And then I went and played junior in Canada for my draft year. And then two years later, Brady went to BU for his draft year. So that was the only difference that we had in our hockey paths. Nice. That's unique too because it feels like hockey is a sport where, at least for us, most of the best players I knew in hockey, they played hockey constantly. All year round. All year round.

They played summer leagues. They played juniors. They were doing it nonstop. But I love hearing, I think multi-sports makes you so much better as an overall athlete. So I love hearing that. That's great to hear. Let's get back a little bit to the four seasons or the four, four nations tournament. Do you think that they're going to continue to do this?

It was so massively successful. Matthew, you got an. injury. You guys just talked about the intensity of it. Do you think that this is going to be something that the NHL is going to lean into in future seasons? Yeah, I mean, I think they've come up with a plan of like obviously this was, I think, more successful than they could have pictured. And then next year we got the Olympics. And then I think they're doing a World Cup, and they've been talking about getting more countries involved at, instead of the four nations get more like the, I I think they're looking for like eight countries.

So just to see more talent being showcased. And I think they're talking about having some games in Europe, which I think would be a really cool experience and tie that into the 2030 Olympics. And so I think they're coming up with every two years of an event like this to kind of do. And I just think everybody missed it. Everybody missed it up, man. The best on best. But it's going to be a little bit different with the no Olympic rules.

There's not going to be, they're not allowed to fight in and stuff. I'll go to the feds, listen, man. But you got to allow it, baby. I know. It was, it was great. But, uh, yeah. No, we've been arguing to get that rule set in the NFL for years. I mean, could you imagine just one, once every game, you just get a fucking, you're allowed one for you just take the helmet off and just says, going.

Oh, bad. I told Jason, I was like, we ever played the Eagles. I was fucking coming out there. I was going to talk about. That would have been electric. I do want to talk about the fight because both of you guys, obviously, Matthew, you got in the first fight of the first game with Canada. Brady, you're the next.

And then Miller got in the third fight, right? I don't know. Did you guys know right from the moment of the anthem that that was going to happen? Like what led to up to that right off the first face-off fight happened in Matthew? I think that, you know, USA, we, that team is such a proud group of Americans and wanted to show how united we were and how proud. we were to be Americans. I mean, let's face it. Like, you know, I, you know, last bunch of years, you really haven't seen that from Americans in general, like to show off how proud they are to be

a part of the United States. And, and I think that, you know, our team did a great job of making a big impact on people from the whole tournament, but especially that game against Canada, going into a hostile environment and wanting to set a, you know, set the tone in a very tough place to play against, you know, a very great team. And so I think that, you know, we knew it was going to be an intense game. And me, Brady and Mills, you were talking before about it, about, you know, potentially, you know, if there were going to be just some scraps doing it right away. Maybe.

Yeah. If the feelings right, you know. If they set the lights that are right, they know that the mood's right. We'll see what happens. But to be honest, we was all joking around until, like, right before we went out for the anthem. And then, you know, we send an art. the road team we send in our lineup first, then they send in theirs. And, you know, they, I was just like, Brady, I'm going to ask whoever is lined up on their left side to fight at first. And then

the guy I asked, fought me. And then Brady, I guess, went right over to the bench. It's calling for it mid fight. And then, and then Millsie went right after. I just think it was, you know, it made me very proud to be playing for that team during that moment, you know, to see how united we were in a like I said a hostile environment at the other day it's you know a fight to fight you're going there to beat the other guy up but I think it was more than that it was more to show your teammates you know we got this you know we're we're together in this we all come from different parts of the country different backgrounds different teams and you know we're in this and we're going to fight together so that's fucking badass that made me really really proud to be honest with you

and and and even people you know since the tournament that's that's all they're talking about how proud they were of our team and how united we were and how we were um you know inspiration to them and and i think that's coming from the whole tournament but that that's what makes me most proud i think heck yeah i had to say i was way more nervous for matthew fight when i saw him starting to throw i was like oh here we go let's go boys i was listening to the crowd too every time he was I'll say, okay, I don't even know if I can wait until the next whistle. Like, you're like, I got to grab somebody now. I can't wait?

Can we think we have. How queen was our dab up too, Brady? I'll remember that forever. I think he's got to dab up of all time. This would be set it at Jeff every single day. Dude, so how the buildup and everything and how it snowballs and all that from the first game is so awesome. But there had to be a little bit of you. You said you were joking around where it was like you knew your dad did something very

similar to this in 1996. Within like the first 20 seconds of the game, I believe that was the, that's how it went down with him as well, right? They actually were telling the story because the guy who fought Bill Guerin was our general manager for that tournament.

And they were both laughing about like before. It's like, who's taking the big guy? Like Billy G's like, I got the big guy. And then they're a joke. I was like, Big Walt, why didn't you grab the big guy? Like, you're bigger than me. And they're like, just to that just to hear about us leading into the tournament about joking around like if if this is going

to happen who's got who and stuff like that so it's funny how it kind of came to 30 years later it's like the exact same story so right so quiet i do think fighting is such a big part of hockey's culture at least in the united states and in the n hl and it feels like it's misunderstood a lot of the times i love the way you matthew just described it like it's it's almost about galvanizing everybody and like, hey, we're not going to take shit from anybody. We're standing up for ourselves and we're going to battle. And I think that they had the same response on their end. And that's what made it so electric.

Like there was two countries in particular in Canada in the U.S. that were so proudly, like, fighting for each other. And it was just awesome to witness. One of the things that Travis and I never got to do, unfortunately, with footballs. We never got to represent our country. So it's just so awesome to be able to see you guys do that. We're living through our NHL brothers, man. So we appreciate you guys, man.

I got to go to the Olympics for the first time this year, which was awesome. You get to see a bunch of people compete for the United States there. But, yeah, watching this was incredible. I do got to ask you, what? There's an art to hockey fights. Travis and I never got skilled enough or advanced enough to learn. Our hockey fights never got out of the locker.

We were locker boxing in the middle of, like, hockey tournament or hockey, like, camps and stuff like that. That was as far as it got. We got a very rudimentary upbringing with either locker boxing or our man, Steve Bogus, who was both of our coached us, Little League's. Stevie. Rest in peace. He is no longer with us.

But he said, you got to grab the other guys right hand with this hand. You grab his shoulder right there and you kind of steer it. And then you're throwing with this one. And I don't know. Is there more to it than that? Or what's the art of the hockey fight? Are there unwritten rules? I'm going to take this question off because Brady would kick my ass.

It's got a little reach advantage. I feel the same way about. Trev, a little wiry motherfucker. They ain't getting in a fucking cage with you. Everyone's different, though. Like, it's all kind of like the same concept. But like, I know Matthew and I, like, even like watching like all of our fights and like just like he grabs like the middle of the shoulder pads here. But I like I like to grab like just like around his elbow.

Oh, interesting. Yeah. And like I kind of grab and twist it. And like as I'm thrown like and if I can't reach them, then like I know it didn't happen against Canada. but I throw and then like switch hands to like go left but like there you go Brady's a brawler he's got the left and right he's throwing both hands that's too much you're making yeah you gotta get good balance on the ice to be throwing both hands like that yeah but when you grab like the elbow it's like you control everything right like you can control like when he throws over like you kind

of push your hand forward like above and yeah and when he tries to throw an uppercut you can kind of like bring it down a little bit so yeah like you just kind of tuck your elbow and you're not going to get hit. So, uh, yeah, but usually the mindset is how can I knock this guy out? Or the right or a lap. So I love it. I love it. No better feeling.

If somebody gets like cheeky and like kind of like dodges and like like moves, is it, is it frowned upon if a guy like kind of like flanks or if he like tries to. Are there any rules or any unwritten rule? Is there any other finesse kind of move that you make that's like, I've seen, I've seen guys you like the Superman punch and like that's always like in a square up that's the only thing I'm thinking about is like I do not want to get Superman punch but like guys like kind of like throw headfakes like get in there and it's like and you don't want to like overextend to go grab them because then he like back up and can throw but I mean unwritten rules like usually when the guy's down you don't hit him

unless you're no unwritten rule unless you don't like to that which we usually don't then we're still throwing at the bottom so but yeah there's it's it's it's It's a free for all when it comes to us, too. That doesn't matter until the refs come in. It's until we're going to the box and we still try to throw. Yeah. I love it, man. How was, like, moms and grandmas, how do they feel about you guys throwing the

or dropping the gloves? Well, nobody knew. And honestly, it didn't even cross her mind that, like, we didn't tell anybody in our family. And then, I guess we were just debriefing after the game with the fan. And, of course, everybody was so excited. but I guess my dad saw right off the draw, like Matthew going back with like his one glove off. And he's like, tap my mom's like, you don't really know what's coming, but it's happened. She's like, what are you talking about?

Then whistle and then the gloves came off. And I guess she was just, my mom doesn't really handle it too well. I think, I mean, she's accepted. Like that's kind of who we are as players. But I think on that stage and she was pretty nervous. and and then same thing happened the next draw. My dad was like, hey, Brady's going just watching. He's like, no, he's not.

No way, no way. There's no way he's living in. I guess for like 15 minutes, she just, like, couldn't believe what was going on. And our grandma's, it's the same thing. She's, I think it's a little nervous, but I think she knows, like, how we grew up and how we were roughhousing each other growing up

and how we've kind of built that toughness with the both of us that we can kind of handle our own. But it's funny. Like I know Matthew's fiancee, my wife, I don't think like they're not like that. They're like almost it's like that's who we are. So it's funny to see the. Not even surprised. And my sister, Taryn, she loves it.

Yeah. She was probably giving so many fist pumps and high five with everybody. And so it's pretty funny to see that the different people in our life with the different reactions that they have for it. That shit's awesome, man. My favorite reaction was when they cut to Matthew in the penalty box after you started fucking brawling. Dude, you were fucking banging on the glass.

Dude, I can only imagine how that feels to watch your brother. Just be on his team fighting for your country. It's like the one time you get to represent your country and you guys know you guys did it the most badass way, man. That's just so cool. Yeah. Watching Brady was legit, like the most proud I've ever been. It was just so surreal.

It was awesome. Yeah, that's another thing. You guys shared a penalty box together. What was that like? What did you guys talk about in there? It was a highlight. It was weird. We were just talking about the fight how awesome it was.

It just like. Five minutes to ever spend. And then Millsy came in and just the same thing. We were just like, oh my God, like that just happened. Like, this is awesome. Now let's go win the game. Let's go make it meaningful and win the game. But it was unbelievable.

It was so it was just like those little things that like, I know I was miced up for that game and I'm excited to see like the full clip and there's a little of our conversation right where we came in and it was pretty funny because I'm excited to the whole clip of just what we were even talking about it was it's like two kids talking it's like how is how is my fight oh it was great it's it's just like I don't know you guys know what it's like we're just we're more with each other it's like we're two little kids again just having fun so that's what it felt like in the box it was the best Fuck yeah, man.

Well, there was a lot of momentum built up. And now I think the NHL is going to benefit from this. People are all in on hockey right now. It's an awesome time to be in the United States as a hockey fan. What do you think the USA can continue to do to build on this momentum and continue to push the sport as a country? Well, I think it's exciting because you've got people across the country that might have never heard about hockey before or watched a game that are now fans.

And that's something that, you know, I think Brady and I and the rest of our team should be proud of and that we grew the game in this country. And the game's in a better place now than it was two weeks ago. So I think that first and foremost is very exciting. I just think we have to keep building momentum like with these international events too, because like I said, how much pride our team showed in representing our country. And there is nothing like wearing that jersey. It doesn't matter what team you're on. Like there is just nothing like it. So I just think next year when it comes to the Olympics, we have to do a job and compete our asses off

and ultimately come out with exactly what we want to accomplish. So I think that's very important, but the game's in a better place right now. And this tournament was a great idea for whoever came up with it. And it was a huge success. So hockey keeps growing in this country. And I think, too, like, you know, our team in Florida, you know, a non-traditional hockey market is so much youth hockey grow. Tampa's had a lot of success, so you're seeing it there. And then our captain, Austin Matthews is from Scottsdale.

You know, like there's guys from all over the country that maybe, you know, when my dad played, it was Minnesota and Boston and Michigan. So it's growing a lot right now. We just got to keep it going and keep putting together good performances. Yep. Fuck yeah, man. Well, growing up in a hockey house, man, your dad played 19 seasons in the NHL, which is, God damn, that's impressive, man.

So you guys grew up in St. Louis? Were you guys big blues fans or who are you guys cheering on in terms of like who you guys were attracted to growing up in the NHL world? Was it like Brett Hall and the boys or what? My dad came a little bit later than Holly. My dad came. We were both born in Arizona when he played for the coyotes. And I think I was four, Brady was two maybe. I don't know the exact. When we moved to St. Louis, instantly got hooked on the blues and the players on that team. But it's funny. Like, as we got older, because my dad played until he was 39, so we were, you know, more than old enough to remember and watch and love the game and love, you know, some of the teammates and other guys across Lee. Like, at one point later on his career, like, our dad's just our dad. Like, he's not an NHL player. Like, yeah, he's not, he's not cool. The cool guys are Sydney Crosby and Patrick Cain to those guys. Yeah.

So as much as we were blues fans, you know, we are idols and guys we want to be like, we're Sydney Crosby, Patrick Cain, some of those. young, you know, studs at the time that now we get to play against. So it's, it's so surreal. But our, our dad is, is, you know, is the best. And looking back, you know, what he did for us is he kind of ingrained the love for hockey, like organically, but him bringing us to the rink all the time. Like, there were no rules from the coach of the gym. Like, my boys are coming to the rink. They're going to skate before. They're going to hang out in the room. And luckily, you know, everybody was really cool with it and allowed it. But that's awesome, man. That's so cool.

So I think, and Bree and I both played in the NHL when we were 18. And I think what a lot of guys have trouble with, maybe out of the gates is what it's like coming into a room full of, you know, NHL guys at that age. And maybe the lights might be too bright. But, you know, we grew up in the rank, you know, with my dad bringing us and being around the guys, being around the trainers, you know, treating them, you know, as good as you can. And, you know, just being around older guys. And so I think that him doing that really allowed us to have success right away and allowed us to make the NHL at that age. So a lot of credit goes to that.

But growing up, I don't know, Brady, like some of the best memories for us is just being around the room with the guys and shooting the shit and skating with them before practice. I mean, it's memories that I've always thought about. And I can't believe that we were lucky enough to be able to do that. Heck, we were just talking about your family watching you guys, Brawl. Did you guys ever see Dad? throw the hands on the ice? Oh, yeah. What was that like, right?

A couple of times. Oh, it was, it was, we were just, oh, dad, you got, you got beat up last night. No. Like, come on. No, I remember, like, just watching, because we were so close to the action, and it was just, like, just so fired up. We'd probably try to emulate it in the, like, the room after, like, oh, this is how, like, he did it. We just start going, and I remember, like, there was guys just egging us on, and we were just going toe to toe in the locker. I remember once we were in the room, we were playing, like, we were just like, you know, play fight.

Somebody would be like, all right, you guys should fight. We dropped the gloves, you know, fight, whatever. But I remember one time it was after the game, we're in the family lounge and we're playing mini sticks with a bunch of kids. And I just run Brady. And I just run Brady in the numbers, you know, right from right cross-check to the back or right to the couch. So as the blues doctors and training staff had, you know, an easy night, nobody got hurt. So they're leaving the rank. And my dad calls back in the team doctor,

comes, grabs Brady, and Brady had to get stitches. That's, uh, those are some of the- Those are some of the shenanigans that we were up to at the rank. It was, it was a blast. Dude, mini-sticks is such a freaking, and that's all we used to do. When Travis was playing, like all the brothers, we'd be playing mini-sticks in where they used to store the nets, right?

But the nets would go out on the ice, and then we go into that cage and we play mini-sticks with each other. our dad actually set up a mini stick or mini stick arena in our basement he put plywood all along he just put no at the time it was special we'd be in it'd be full contact mini sticks down there that show was epic we already know mini sticks is a classic how much advice did pop give you guys as far and is he still giving you advice as far as like being a hockey player and navigating your careers yeah he's he talks to us after every game and and uh the the thing that he said honestly he said honestly we can remember Matthew and even to this day is there's two things just be a good teammate and just

work your ass off and those are the only two things that you can control and um and just if you do that every single day and that goes to the next guy and that goes to the next guy and that's how you know become a winning team and and for matthew a Stanley Cup team and of course it was matthew's been so new to florida but i think just that mindset and that advice that he's brought in just was a breath of fresh air for that team and the reason why they're successful in Stanley Cup champs is because of matting that mindset. So I think it's just, you know, Big Walt, he's got a lot of advice, but those two, he's always said right from a young age.

That's awesome. He sounds like the fucking man. You guys were making your dad sound like a fucking Ogy. I love it. How cool was it to get him to drink out of the Stanley Cup, man? Was that like, well, that had to be one of the most proud moments ever, dude? We got some stories. I know he's got one-going stories.

It was so special. He worked his ass off for 19 years and came close, but ultimately he didn't get to finish the job. So to me, one of the coolest parts of that day, I'm sure Brady might remember it a little bit, but I remember like it vividly exactly what was going on. So you were obviously up 3-0.

We blow a 3-0 lead. We're going to game 7. And for some reason, like this day was just, it was just a calmer day. Like it was just, I don't know why it probably shouldn't have been, but it just felt better. And I'm going to my car to drive to the rink.

And Brady and my dad walk me out. Don't say anything. Just walk me to the car. And I thought that was just like, all right, they got my back, you know, no matter what happens.

But, you know, this is important. And as I'm driving out, I just like, you know, I just clues in with me. I'm like,

I'm not only playing for, you know, myself and my teammates, but like, I'm playing for my family that have sacrificed absolutely everything for me. My dad has come so close. You know, Brady has put in so much work and we'll get there one day. But like, I'm playing for my whole family and everybody that's got me to this point. So that was like a super cool moment. And then the next coolest was, was after that game when we're on the ice when I finally got to hug them all. And I don't know how, but the cup got into my hands, like when all the families were out there and just me handing it to my dad. had that first time was a feeling that I'll never be able to really explain how I, you know,

how unbelievable it was. And then, and then all the shenanigans and the locker, master was just, you know, the cherry on top. But that, that was such an incredible day and one of the most amazing days in my life. And I was so happy I got to share it with, you know, my brother, you know, my sister, my parents, all the family. It was really cool. That's so awesome. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. We, uh, we talk about how the Stanley Cup is the cool. list of all the fucking trophies, man. It's not even close. And the tradition where each player gets a chance to you know, have a day with him and I just think it's what the fuck did this guy just go?

Yeah. So did you take it back home with you or what was the, did you get a day with it or a couple days? How does, how did it work with you after you won it? Yeah. So it was all like so fast. I remember we won. I had like, went to the Cape Cod to party for 4th of July, then went out in Tahoe, saw you guys there.

And then right after Tahoe, like, I had to race back to St. Louis because I got it like a couple days later. So it all happened so fast. But I was the lucky one. I got it for a day and a half. So I got to hit up everything I wanted to in St. Louis. I had, you know, an unreal party, people flying in from all over the country, family from everywhere, friends came back in town. It was so cool. But the two things that I really, really wanted to do when I had to pay with the cup is, one, I really wanted to bring it to the Children's Hospital. It's been such a big, you know, important, you know, charity in our family's life going back to my dad,

giving back and working with them throughout his career, and then Bray and I doing stuff in our respective city. So that was like number one, wanted to take it there. That's awesome, man. Love that. Love that. And then, too, like, I just really wanted, like, a few hours. at some point of the day where it was just my family and I and just staring at the cup. And just hanging out and like hearing the cup stories from the, you know,

from the cupkeeper. Yeah. You know, hearing, you know, what was the craziest year? Craziest party. What did this guy do with it? You know, where did this guy take it? And just hearing all the incredible things that this big silver trophy has been through. And now it's in my house.

And I get to hold it and lift it whenever I want. Like it was so surreal and I know it was just so special for me to have the support of all my family throughout the whole year. But like that day in the middle of summer when it started to, you know, died down a little bit, was it truly an incredible day. And, yeah, I can't wait to try to compete for it again. Well, you got some trouble to start with the copkeeper. Bringing in for the other show. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, that weren't happening.

Yeah, whoa, whoa. I didn't know you could get in trouble with the cupkeeper. What are you going to do? You get in trouble with that guy. Yeah, I didn't know he could either. But I guess after, you know, after we won zero hours of sleep about 40 beers later, I took it into the ocean. And, yeah, I guess it doesn't deal well with salt water, which it makes sense now. But I didn't know the rules.

I mean, we just won the thing 12 hours earlier. Like, I don't think about any rules. Yeah, but they weren't too thrilled with me. but yeah, it's all good. We're good now. Nice. Yeah. That thing was actually in this basement that I'm in right now.

I got to see it firsthand. I couldn't, can't drink out of it unless you want it or with somebody who's won it. But I did get to look at it, which it's even more of a spectacle in person. This fucking jabroney. So congratulations for winning that. We did. And we did have another, speaking of cups, we did have another cup situation this off season. You brought up Tahoe.

We got to see Travis. his flip cup skills. Were you impressed with Travis's flip cup skills? Or he's a little bit of a, he's a flighter. You've got to be careful with him. I remember it was the first time I'd played the drinking game baseball. That was, I've told the story because, you know, I don't know one of the guys that we were playing with. I know it was four on four.

I know our team was Travis. Miles Teller Chase Crawford and myself It was BG Blake Griffin The Midge

Oshy And And Baker Yeah so it was a It was kind of an iconic game Yeah Yeah

And somebody's family member I don't know who But took a picture of it Or something I just remember I mean Trave was like Shohei He was hitting home

runs and stealing bases. He was the MVP. It sounds like you're just hitting singles, hey? That was in singles. Comority. Guy who we got. On base percentage. That's what it's all about.

On base percentage. Yeah, that was a really fun. I mean, you guys know how fun that week was. And I'm looking forward to this year again. Brady, are you going to make it out to Tileo this year? I'll take a caddy job at this point. I don't have to have the stress of shanking it hitting people. give some beers and hang out.

That happens. If you make it out this year, Brady, we got us for, we got to get a mini-sticks drinking game figured out. We got to figure out some game revolving mini-sticks and beer. I'm in on that. I just, I remember, I remember Osh, man.

Once we went to Flip Cup, I started, like, kind of getting a little, like, bending the rules a little bit. Dude, he was not having it, man. I was like, I'm one more, like,

one more time cheating away from just getting fucking socks by my guy right here, right? We're about to have a good old-fashioned hockey fight right here. I love TJ's the man. No, man. Yeah, no, that was a fun, fun night for sure. We got to wrap up.

We're going to ask a few. We got to ask you don't have to answer. That's the name of this segment. So we're going to ask questions. You don't have to answer them. You can tell us the fuck off whatever you want, but we are going to ask these questions. All right, you ready?

Perfect. We got to ask is brought to you by Mettoe Go. Yeah, that right now. Brady, you could just answer first each time. Boom. There we go. All right. Who was the favorite growing up?

Matthew. Matthew? Oldest? I don't think so. I think, no, I, let's say Taryn. Let's go with the easy answer. There you go. That's easy.

She's the only girl in the family, so she's the favorite. All right. Do you guys have a welcome to the NHL moment? We talk about this with football guys, any moment that is like, oh, wow. I'm in the league now. Yeah. I know for me, I was standing next to Alex. I was like, who?

Oh my God. What is going on right now? I think he had like two goals that night. I'm like, I was dashed too. I'm like, all right, that's why I welcome to you. I'm going to go work on some stuff. That's a good one. I think mine was just first NHL game was in the new Edmonton rank.

And they did like a passing of a torch moment right before we went on the ice where Gretzky had Messier or on the ice just like with the puck and they looked. left it and then McDavid came flying off the bench and like took the puck and scored in the building erupted. I'm like, holy cow. I can't be here. I was just thinking about that shit. Holy crap. I'm like, there's no way I'm in the right place right now. I just said that was so that was my, but also I played Ovechkin a few weeks after and same story as Brady. He's like, welcome me the NHL kid. And I'm like, how does he? And he's a he's a big man too. So that was was cool.

Yeah. Yeah. Fetchkins is a man. If you, if you guys drop gloves on the ice between you to, or maybe even you and your dad, who's winning out of you three? Brady, I'll save you a trouble. I'll answer this point. I don't need you to stuff me a lock with your answer.

I would go, I would go Brady, my dad, me. yeah one two three yeah all right brady who's taking it you or your dad i don't know that would be there's a mental there's a mental advantage that dad has in that one oh he he definitely he has on that aspect he'll probably want i'll go with him no chance brady i got you i got you i got you you you don't have to be nice i got you and met hey thanks bro all right what's the more physical sport Hockey or football? I mean, football, because you get hit every single play. Like hockey, there's just where you might not get hit and might just be skating around,

but football is every single play. I will say, though, the hardest I still have ever been hit is on the ice and multiple times. Like, when you get a hospital pass and you're just going across the middle and you get hit open ice, not ready for it, there is nothing that hurts. And now, I didn't play receiver. Travis been hit going over the middle. It's got to be similar to that. Yeah, I'm thinking about like a slant route for me.

I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I want to get hit down the middle. But then you hit the ice. That ice is hard. I mean, it's like concrete. That is. I don't know. What do you think, Tram? You've had both.

You've had a hospital pass and been hit on a, like, a route like that. I didn't play. The hardest I ever been hit on the ice is like against you in practice. It was just, I never, I was like six, one. six, two on skates in eighth grade. Like, I was always the biggest kid. So there was nobody really, like, throwing me around yet. Yeah.

But, yeah, I've had my fair share of fucking knockout blows coming over the middle for sure. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't know. If the Kelsey's in the Kachucks switch sports, who's better at the other sport? Dude. For sure, you guys at a hobby. There's no chance. You need to watch me try and skate.

It's been a long time. You guys have the size. You guys have the size and the intimidation. Brady and I would just be like... You guys are six two and six four. What do you mean? You guys are big dudes. Yeah.

We'd be very slow compared to everybody. I don't know, but we'd still... What position would you guys play? Let me ask you that. What position do you guys think you would play? Brady's probably built for... You've got a little tight end in you, Brady, I think. Tight end, D.N.

I see that. I see that. And then I think I'm linebacker. throw that out just let them know yeah probably middle lineback

all heart baby all heart a middle linebacker that you know wants some goal line on offensive plays for a touchdown there we go

let me vote little Mikey Braves in there man who talks the best best shit on the ice man I mean Matthew I know he's

tripped me in a game before I'm like oh my God I have your brother I don't you just rattled me so I don't

I'm getting him in Calgary when you churped me like go go hop on the bike like in between periods I'm like my conditioning that bad I just was like I guess I am really struggling out here I just know Brady

I actually do remember I just know that that would actually affect him and I can't believe it did that's so funny this is great yeah there's it's surprising like there's not much chirping in the

NHL anymore. It's just, it's kind of like a lost art. I mean, people just don't really do it that much. I think the intimidation factor

is, is more of the, the chirp itself than the actual words. So I think, I think Brady's pretty good at that as well. Is there a hockey slang that people should use more?

Hmm. I feel like if you're around, uh, hockey players enough, you kind of hear like the natural, like, I don't know, like slang and just like lingo

lingo that you guys use on the ice. and it's like, I don't know, it's so fun to be around, especially when you guys are competing. I don't know. I just, I feel like there's definitely something like that. I didn't know if you guys had any fun shit for us. No, I mean, the only thing I could think of is like, I feel like we always say is like beauty and fell on like, like little things like that.

Like just like that. Yeah. What a beauty. I love that. You're such a beauty. And, uh, that's really all I can like. It's, it's so funny though. Like, I feel like when you say that to people, though, sometimes it could be

chirp it's like oh brady you're a beauty like you're it's used both ways that's probably that's probably our favorite one because it can mean so many different different ways I guess it doesn't make sense for sure you're such a last one last one you're a fucking beaut I'll tell you what

we have a stat here for uh through the first 400 games you guys lined up with your dad And the penalty minutes are fucking off the charts. Through 400 games, Brady, you're at 588, which is fucking ridiculous. Matthew, you're at 395, but your dad is at a staggering 1,000. I mean, he played for 19 seasons. This is through 400 games.

How many 10-minute misconducts did we get? That's what I'm saying. I thought I had a lot at the end of the game. I'm telling rough, sorry, give me a 10. I'm out of here. But he must have done it every other game. Beat the traffic home. Do you guys think you'll ever catch dad by the end of your careers?

I mean, he's got 2,000, I think, in total. I don't know. I mean, he'd get into a thousand's a wind, but two thousand is a tough one to beat. That's crazy. Oh, man. I think my dad's most impressive stat is he scored 50 goals, which is insane. He scored it twice in a season. but one of the years he had 200 penalty minutes with it.

So it's like, it's like, damn, dad, like you put that number at 100. Like, you might have scored 60. You would have stayed on the fucking ice. He was a scorn or in the box. There's no other option that joke. He's like, fuck, I wasn't thinking of that. That's my kind of player right there. That's my kind of player.

Jason notoriously leads, you know, it still has the record for Ohio State hockey for penalty minutes. For Cleveland Heights High School. Travis. Nope, can't tell me any difference, Jason. Can't tell me until you prove that stat wrong,

you led the state. All right, fair enough. What's the greatest hockey movie of all time? Miracle. Yeah. Dude.

It's hard to top that. We watched it before the Canada game till in the first one, we had like six of us in like a, it was almost like we're back to like youth hockey. Yeah. Six guys in my room just watching Miracle. And it was so awesome.

Dude, We fucking love that movie growing up, man. One of my favorites also, though, a sneaky, I know, well, you're right. But one of my sneaky favorites is Mystery Alaska. Yeah. That one, that one's a sneaky, like, dude, I will, I got to watch that. I haven't seen that one in forever, but that was one of my favorites. That was a great one.

I'm still a slap shot. I'm a slap shot. Did you guys, oh, so funny. So Paul Newman. Did you guys, did you guys, like grow up skate on the outdoor rink ever? Like, did you guys? Never. with us.

Yeah. So, like, Mystery Alaska is like, uh, it's like a myth to us. It was like a one. Yeah, Wonderworld. Yeah. But yeah. No, it's, that's a funny one.

Everyone was calling Brady and I, you know, comparing us to that, the hands of brothers. Yeah. It's slap shots. They're putting their faces on their bodies. I thought it was hilarious.

I don't know if we were that crazy, but maybe we were a little bit. Dude, those dudes were bad shit crazy, man. So fucking good, man. The best is when the rough comes up to them during the anthem. and basically saying no antics. They're only in funny noses.

All screwed up already. Once again, we got to ask is brought to you by Mentos Gum. Well, boys, that does it for us, man. We got nothing for you guys. We got nothing else for you guys. I mean, man, can't thank you enough. Representing the USA, representing the good brothers of America. Yep, yep.

In sports, man. Brotherhood. You guys make us, you know, it was so fun watching you guys. and still watching you guys, you know, chase after the Cup this year, man. But it's so cool. Seeing, you know, the family dynamic before the championship of the Four Nations game with your dad, your mom, and you two sitting down.

It just, it was so cool for me to relate, knowing that I had something similar with Jason going into the Super Bowl, which was, you know, as close as we ever got on the field. So it was just awesome. You guys do it the right way. You could tell you guys' family is amazing and so happy for you guys, man. Good luck chasing the cup this year. and appreciate you guys coming on, man.

Thanks a lot, boys. Yeah, thank you for having us. Two beauties. Two beauties right here. You guys are beauties in the good way. Not the bad way. Let's go. We'll see you guys this summer, right?

All right. You know it, man. What a pair of good brothers right there. Absolutely. Dude, I might actually put on a plaque, you know, just be a good teammate and work hard. Dude, seriously. I mean, that's what it's about. And that's what I love on hockey, man.

I love the men. mentality of those guys. Every single one of them so selfless, man. They represent a league and a sport that just has a great spirit to it. So could it be more proud of Team USA, even though they didn't pull it out, they fought hard. I mean, listen, they worked hard and they represented their country well, and they were great teammates. There we go. Bam.

I'm fucking with that. You already know, man. And I don't know why, man. I just want to fucking have a fucking few more beers with my guy, Matthew, man. Get Brady down there to Tahoe. That shit would fucking be so cool. What's a good game with mini sticks? Do you remember how we used to play hockey where you would slap shot the quarter into the can?

Dude, yeah. We should just play that game with mini sticks. Any sticks, get some mini sticks. That shit would get so dangerous. And then get quarters and then you just slap the quarter at the can. If you hit the can, you got a drink. Yeah. I think that's an awesome game.

I'm with it. We can make it up. I don't give a shit. I got time. I tell you, there's something about the world of hockey that I just feel like it's a hidden gem, man. We got to get some more of the greats on here, man. we get playing gradeski you get the great one on here yeah i mean obviously we'll take the best high player of all time yeah uh man some absolute legends that was one thing i was like

always so jealous of you being in philly of what the flyers dude just having being able to go and watch the flyers even going down to xfinity the the year we did uh and watching the game down there that was so much fucking fun man i mean that was one of the few years unfortunately that they made the playoffs. I mean, and I love Claude Drew. And I was actually just talking with Scott Hartnell, who's back in the area about getting out on the ice because it's been a long time.

I want to start getting the girls out on the ice. But yeah, I am all in on interviewing hockey guys. Yeah, and Gretzky, he is hockey. He's the great one. All right. Perfect. Well, thank you to Matthew and Brady Kachuk. You guys are awesome.

Best of luck the rest of the year. Should we bring a hockey team to Kansas City? Dude, what? Fuck yes. I've been fucking on that train for a while. I don't know if Kansas City loves it as much as I do. We got a minor league team. Dude,

do you said you and Patma Holmes be a part of the team. I mean, Pat's already doing the women's soccer team, so you guys can just do a hockey team as well. Dude. People will show up. We have a minor league hockey team, the KC. Mavericks.

No, no, no, no, no. We need the NHL team. I hear you, dude. What are we calling it? Kansas City. What's a good, what's a good Kansas City? So what's the minor league team called?

Mavericks. The Mavericks? Yeah. It's not bad. It's pretty good. I know a basketball team, though. Kansas City, what's a really specific Kansas City? I mean, there's obviously barbecue, but there's got to be something else.

Like, what is Kansas City? Kansas City cattle. Dude. And you just got the Kansas City Bowls. No, I don't know. Kansas City beaves? Steers. Oh, steer.

The beef is dope. a great one. Kansas City beef? Kansas City beef. That's actually fucking great. Do you know, let me ask you this. What do you guys refer to when there's like a football slang for offense alignment out in space?

Do you know what that's called? Like you see a big fat guy out there in space can't really run very well. It's like, oh man, that guy looks like a cow on ice. You've never heard that phrase? Never in my life have I ever heard that. Dude, maybe that's something specific to the old. line room. But yeah, cows on ice is like on screens, you see a bunch of

big guys out there. They can't really move around, kind of look like they're sliding around a little bit. Cows on ice is what we call them. God damn. Now I want to see what a cow on ice looks like. Cows on ice. Dude, I'm not going to lie. If you need a minority investor, I'll invest in the KC. Beef. That's actually fucking gold.

You think Pat just pat like hockey? Pat's here for any competitive sport. Yeah? Yeah, he's here for it. I don't know if he's ever been to a game, but he definitely got fired up for the four nations. That's for sure. I mean, who didn't? He was watching that one, yeah. All right, now.

Let's get some no-dum questions. No-dum questions is brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Now, this is taxes. All right, from at Clow underscore TV. No-no question from down under here. Does J-Skills think that this be a mascot for an insurance company has any resemblance to him? This is a very important matter. We would love to see Trav.

Trev gets some love? I've got some of them. Yeah, I think the thing looks just like me. I mean, you're not much of a Chucks guy, but yeah, you,

that's pretty spot on to you. Same kind of like little like, little button nose and a, where it really makes sense of the eyebrows. Yeah, the eyebrows are everything. That's a dead giveaway. This thing fucking is.

The eyebrows and the wrinkles on the forehead are a dead giveaway. They, they saw you and saw marketing. I'm telling you, there's something about me that people like to take my likeness with gritty. I will take this. to my grave.

Gritty was started the year after the parade. That thing looks fucking just like me. If you were to mascify Jason Kelsey, you make the fuck is gritty. It's the flyers mascot. And now this thing, look at the hair. That's Ed Kelsey here right there. Yeah.

And that's what your, that's what your stomach looks like too. I know. This is, I mean, as of right now, Bo, Bo Allen and I are thinking about doing a little fitness challenge. Little Ozempic? Well, I might do that.

Tell me that thing is not my likeness. Shut the fuck up. Dude, they stole it. Look at those eyebrows. It looks nothing like you, dude. You mean to tell me, after the parade, the flyers come out, just so happened to come out with a mascot that looks like that. It looks nothing like you.

Your beard isn't like that. Your eyebrows are aggressive, but they're not that. They'll never admit it. This thing is, they fucking modeled this thing after me. You're ridiculous. Shut off to Trev, though. Trev to B. Hopefully his insurance company is fucking killing it.

All right. Next double question from at Jdubs, 8397, answer this question when making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Do you put them on separate pieces or spread them together? I am not a psychopath. I put the jelly on one side and the peanut butter on the other side and then put them together. Nobody in their right fucking mind spreads peanut butter and jelly on one slice and then puts a... That's just not how it's done. Nobody fucking does that. Is that real? Nobody does that. There's no way anybody does that. Why would you put the jelly on the peanut? Do you put so do you put the peanut butter on the jelly? You'd have to go jelly on peanut butter, right?

No. Yeah, you have to do a layer of peanut butter than the jelly. If you were to do that, but that doesn't make any sense. I don't understand. You wouldn't get a smooth, like easy spread. It would be making your job harder. It feels like there's more control and it's easier to, to determine how much is going on if it's done on different pieces of bread.

Yeah, there's something that sounds really off about putting the peanut butter and the jelly on the same side. I mean, I guess that's how I build a sandwich. Like if I'm building like ham, lettuce, tomato, cheese, like all of that would be piled on top of the same thing. But then I put the mayonnaise on the bread on the opposite. But you have to spread.

Yeah, you have to, whatever you have to spread, it has to go on like a, A piece of bread. Even surface. Yeah. I think that's right. Yeah. Because it's just easier to spread it.

You're not like contaminating the layers. Yeah. You're not fucking up your masterpiece. I hate a sloppy sandwich, man. Yeah. I like my shit nice and fucking perfect. I don't know. I like a sloppy, nice little sloppy cheese steak.

You get cheese all over your face. God, that's good. You like that shit with whiz. I like it with American, but I will eat it with Wiz. It's actually not bad. If you try it. Nacho cheese and bread is ridiculous. I'm not a big whiz, cheese whiz person, but whiz on a cheesecake isn't bad.

I've left to head up before. Definitely prefer American. Dude, this is another thing. I want to figure out how to make the best burger. There's something about cheeseburgers that I just love. Come on over. I'll teach you. I want Andy to teach me.

I want Andy Reid to show me the spread. He's got to know the best cheeseburger he's ever had. Yeah, I'm with you. Any type of spread goes right on top of the bread. On bread only. Yeah. Anytime you got to spread something, you put it on the bread. Yeah.

If you're going to spread, put it on the bread. There we go. It's a simple rule and easy to follow. And that does it for no dumb questions. Brought to you by Into a TurboTax. You want to get into a little bit of the new heights off season? Tell the 92% is what we got coming up or like maybe some of the things that we have in store or thinking about doing? Do we have anything in store?

No, we don't. So let's just create it right here. Just speak things into existence. What would be fun is going up to Green Bay, going up to Green Bay for the draft maybe. That'd be fun. That might be a good time. Get a few of the draftees maybe that are, see who's up there. I'm sure there'll be a few familiar faces from the legendary Green Bay Packers that we can find a way to get a hold of.

Be in on that. Outside of that, I mean, we said the great one. It would be great to get the great one on here. Yep. How about all the great ones? I mean, Jordan. I mean, old Tom Brady maybe. Gosh, it'd be fun to talk to Tom.

Yes, I will talk to all these people. Yeah. Talk to Tom about how he dealt with not winning Super Bowls. Multiple Super Bowls. Yeah, we'll also get some more brothers. We've talked about the Watt brothers before. I still think we need to get out on the ice with the Watt brothers, especially after talking to the Kachucks.

We need to get on the ice with JJ and T. And then do a podcast on the ice. Yeah, I'm with that. That would be in, too. I know, I know JJ would be in. Yeah, he's been skating a bunch. Yeah, no, we need to, we need to kind of get our bearings before we go out there. We can't go out there looking like a bunch of fucking Jamokes.

What about some golf stuff? We did Tahoe last year. We both like golf. Maybe you get Tiger, I mean, Tigers, obviously the funnest name that we could think of. Give my guy, Bryson, get my guy, old Brooksie Kevka. There we go. there we go. I know you and John Rob are close ever since you destroyed his rangefinder.

I don't even want to. I love John. John's a great guy. I just, I can't look him in the eyes. I feel like ashamed every time I look at it. Hey, John, you didn't tell anybody about that,

does he? Here's the events that I want to do with you. I want to do draft would be great to do with you if you, if we're up for it. I want to do the derby with Travis Kelsey this year. Now that you're officially a horse owner, I want to do the derby with Travis Kelsey. Come on. I'll show you the reins.

All right. Perfect. No pun, that it is. Ha! Yeah. I learned from the best. The Zoldens. The Zoldens are the best. What are their events? Stanley Cup?

I mean, I'm in on doing the Cup. You know, the Larry O'Brien show. We can go NBA, NHL. We can do all this. We can do all this. Well, then what do we, so let's just, are we just going to do every event? We can't do every. Everybody always tells me I'm overexposed.

I can't do everything. Well, what else are you doing? Right now I'm kind of like. leaving it wide open because everybody keeps telling me to go away. So I'm just going away for a little bit. Yeah. I feel the same way. No, we will not go away and we will continue to do this.

We will force you to like this. How about this? What about obscure sports? Because you and I both love obscure things. All right. What's obscure though? We want to go hit the horseshoe championship in Topeka, Kansas. I've been there, done that.

That's a good time. First of all, yes, I do want to do that. Second of all, we've talked about curling. I ran to Jared Allen down in New Orleans after he just got inducted into the Hall of Fame. Nice. He has a curling establishment in Nashville. That'd be fun to go visit. I'd fuck around with that.

Try her hand curling. Then maybe talk to one of the best defensive ends of all time. I'm down to do some interactive stuff. Like going. Cornhole. Hobby horsing? We got to comment a hobby horsing tournament. I'm not doing that.

That's where I draw the line. Come on, Trev. That's where I draw the line. I'm not going to sit here and make fun of kids, Jason. Well, how else do you comment hobby horsing? How about this? Darts tournament.

180! Come on now. I am so down. I'm so down. You want to go catch some soccer or some international football, some of the old, I'll go watch some soccer overseas? Catch a premiere game or like Wrexham or,

Burnley? I mean, check out JJ Watts. From everything I've seen and heard on Wrexham, I am in. Burnley, I'm in. I'm in on all this. Yes. The key is finding the time. Sounds like we're in on everything.

92 percenters. Why don't you guys? Help us narrow this down. What do you think we would be good at? Yeah, we want to do stuff for you guys and what interests you guys over the summer. So out of everything we said or even some stuff that we haven't mentioned, and yet that you think would be a fun for us to go and see or check out or give the inside scoop for you guys.

Just let us know. Please send us ideas. All right. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to the New Heights channel. Follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights early and ad free right now by joining Wondry Plus on the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.

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No matter what mood, you can find some Taylor music. Yeah, and how the Eagles broke my heart. No matter how bad I'm feeling, there's a country guy that's singing about it and feeling way worse than me. And that gives me joy a lot of times. Nice. We'd bring it full circle. All right.