New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Patrick Mahomes on QB Rivalries, Brady Advice, Steph Curry Comparisons and More | New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce | EP 15

Starting point is 00:00:00 You think Travis could have played quarter back in the NFL? No. No. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome back to New Heights. A juxtaporiginal presented by Wave Sports Entertainment. We are a show that throws a great no-look pass. Ha-ha-ha, aka a show that has a lot of my homies,

Starting point is 00:00:24 if you know what I'm saying. AKA a show that has a lot of my homies. If you know what I'm saying, A-K-A, a show that brings on nothing but MVP candidates. Okay, we keep it up here. And we are your host, I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey. Follow the show on all social media platforms at New Heights show. As you can see, the guy next to me, Jason, man,

Starting point is 00:00:41 you always do the great intro. I need a big time intro for my guy right now. Oh yeah, here we go. I don't know if they can see me up, but they're gonna see him after this. Introducing the six foot two quarterback on a white house high school. Our guest is a four time pro baller,

Starting point is 00:00:55 NFL MVP, Super Bowl champion, the guy that Travis Caddy's four on occasion. What? While he's running the gun in Travis's a flanking for the 15th episode, we welcome number 15, Patrick Mahomes, everyone. Wow, that was a good go. That was a great deal, baby.

Starting point is 00:01:14 I like to say 6-2 and 1-4th, you know how the hair adds a little bit, you know. Did they just crazy at the combine? I always, that's the, all right. Just saying that the is crazy at the combine. I was I always the combine measurement. No, I was definitely six to exactly at the combine. They just they went straight through the hair. They went, I got to have the hair up long a little bit, a little extra length. And they just, they put a little pin just straight through

Starting point is 00:01:36 and got me that ain't right. That ain't right. They got me to I'm not six five. I'm six four and seven ace. That's that that stinks right there. I look at the fucking guy like you fucking getting me. Combine gets everybody thought I was six three. My whole life get the combine six, two and five ace. That's that that stinks right there. I look at the fucking guy like you fucking getting me. Combine gets everybody. I thought it was six playing my whole life. Get to the combine six, two and five ace. Yeah. The more rising. Well, welcome to the number one sports

Starting point is 00:01:54 podcast in the world. Pat, it's an honor to have you here. How's it feel? You nervous at all? You feel good. I'm extremely nervous, not because of Travis, because of Jason and those sunglasses. He's wearing. I mean, those things, how can they not intimidate you? He put them all man. He wears the sunglasses at night. Are you kidding me? Is it, is it too bright right now? The lights are too bright, baby.

Starting point is 00:02:15 I don't know. I saw, I saw you wear your sunglasses for the game this week and I just, I felt inspired and I didn't have anything that cool. So I actually just went and bought them. The five seconds ago before you came in. I explained the Oakley Cyclopses. Yeah, man. The one that goes out.

Starting point is 00:02:32 I fired up about these. I can't get you to the Oakley thing. You didn't have to buy them, man. I could have got them sent out there. No, man, I'm a supporter. Hey, I appreciate the support right there, man. Those things are sweet. Well, Trevor, what do we got coming up on the episode? Yeah, man, we got, I appreciate you coming right there man. Those things are sweet. Well, Trevor, what do we got coming up on the episode?

Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah, man, we got appreciate you coming through big guy. We got um, this is not a traditional interview I mean, we kind of said it to Jayden thing. I'm not sure if we're even professional enough to conduct an interview So this is just to be a fun huddle man three dudes in the league and um, we got some questions teed up for you, but obviously feel free to Talk about any topic here audible any type of way you know how. Like, you know, sand, no pun intended, but first Jason, we got to, we got to start with our favorite segment, man. New news. Oh, oh, I'm not ready for this one.

Starting point is 00:03:18 I ready. New news. All right. Let's do it again. We're doing it. Three, two, one. New news. Alright, let's do it again. We're doing it three two one I can go low You can go wherever you want everything. Yeah for sure make it make it make it my home. See

Starting point is 00:03:45 Texas baby I got you. New news. New news. Hey, you know that. Let's go. Let's go. Down low. I like that. He's a bear. I'm there in Texas, baby. All right. Well, we just got a quick one today for the new news. So obviously we got Pat here. And we're going to take our audience behind the scenes

Starting point is 00:03:57 to reveal how this came together. But first of all, unfortunately, I wasn't able to be there with you guys. I really wanted to be there But honestly the cheese wouldn't let me in the building and We know how fucking sneaky you are dude. Yeah, well, I think that's what it comes down to you know obviously the Eagles trusted Travis. He's a very trustworthy person and Got so much good shit on you guys They just they really did not think

Starting point is 00:04:24 That they wanted to open the door for me and you know what it makes sense just they really did not think that they wanted to open the door for me. And you know what? It makes sense because I had a sneaky camera and I was going to take photos of everything in case we meet in the Super Bowl. I was getting all of it. Yeah, you're thinking so good job. I chief security to keep me out. But this setup works nonetheless. I made sure that I snuck in that draft room. Man, I know what your guys future looks like. Wow. You don't even know.

Starting point is 00:04:45 It's pretty impressive. There's no way Travis got to do it. There's no way I did it. Little do you know Travis? Howie has 10 steps ahead of you? Little do you know howie is 10 steps ahead of you and he has a decoy draft room. That was the decoy draft reviewer hit. Alright.

Starting point is 00:05:00 It's crazy. Pat, did you feel the pressure on Twitter to come on the show or to Travis? How did, who invited you on here? I feel like there was so many things happening. What led to this? Well, I think you know more than anybody that Travis is the worst planner in the world. So he actually, I think it was like week three or four,

Starting point is 00:05:20 he was just kind of walked by me in the meeting room. It was just like, hey, you wanna come on the show? And I was like, yeah, for sure, man, never heard anything else until you came at me on Twitter. So, yeah, you know, Travis, man, he's the worst planner in America. And I can't ask for shit, man. I was literally go, I walked into that, I was like, on the drive in, I'm like, dude, I'm going to ask him today, dude, I'm going to ask him, as soon as I see him, I'm going to just be like, dude, you want to come on the show? And I just, for the first time, I saw gonna ask him today, dude. I'm gonna ask him. As soon as I see him, I'm gonna just be like, dude, you wanna come on the show? And I just, for the first time, I saw you were just in

Starting point is 00:05:47 passing, and I was like, the shortest conversation ever. Dude, he was walking up the steps, like, going to the tight end room, and I'm sitting in here, about to have my meeting with the QBs, and he just, quick, just, you wanna be on the show? And I was just like, what? Yeah, I'm like, baby. I'm gonna come down, baby, come.

Starting point is 00:06:02 All right, think about it. We'll get back to it. It's not a bad stretch, it's kind of like a boat play. Just catch the defense off guard, you know? It just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

Starting point is 00:06:10 I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, what? I'm just like, what?

Starting point is 00:06:18 I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, what? I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, what? I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm on new heights. We got some fan-based names we've been looking at to try and figure out what we're going to call the viewers of the new heights podcast. So far we've had new high two liggins, new heights scoundrels. We got a lot of like bandits in kind of like, you know, names that are names of mischief throwing around there. The new heights 92% are an ode to a made up quarterback sneak percentage that I did on the show, but it's become a reality somehow And another one that we made that up. You made that up to

Starting point is 00:06:52 Well, I think it was I think I've heard it. I believed it. But it's for sure Statistics now. It's got to be up there. It's got to be up to 90 right? I mean, I'm like 95% and one kneecap short of being It's got to be up to 90, right? I mean, I'm like 95% and one kneecap short of being 100%. Oh, dude, so I mean, I believe in the quarterback sneak as well, but just sometimes you can't just gotta watch out for the kneecaps. I think after watching that quarterback sneak, I think it makes a ton of sense that you don't do quarterbacks sneak. Yeah, I know you're a little bit more valuable.

Starting point is 00:07:23 Let's have Noah Gray coming here and do this quarterbacks sneak. Well, I will say, I know you've talked about it beforebacks. Yeah, you're a little bit more valuable. Let's have no a great coming here and do this quarterbacks. Well, I will say I know you've talked about it before, but yeah, it was a third down in Denver. I believe maybe a fourth down and I got the first down and he fell on my knee and I remember being on the ground and just looking at it and my knee cap was in the side of my calf and I didn't know what to do. I just I just I just froze up and the worst part was the reaction from every teammate I have you know guys usually I had dudes running 50 yards away from me just running down the other side of the field But yeah, that was nobody's offering support Also writers my centers yelling get off me get off me get off me I'm like can't move. I can't move. What do you want me to do? My kneecap is in the back of my leg

Starting point is 00:08:10 So what am I supposed to do so I was also taking one for the team It's just kind of lay in there making sure everything The storm calm. It's honestly create and you came back later that game You didn't miss any time. Yeah, so I so I actually, I went out of the game. I went back to the locker room and how to get the x-rays and stuff like that. And it was a funny story because they hit me with the, oh, you look at everything's negative.

Starting point is 00:08:32 Look good. Look good. And so I went back in the locker room and I was ready to go back on the field. And they had like the, you know, the intern trainers in there with you at that point. And I walked up to the guy and I was just like, hey, am I going back out there? And he's like, you're just looking around. He's like, uh, uh, uh, no, no, no, sir, you're not. And I'm like, I'm, and then he know me. I'm flipping out. Why not?

Starting point is 00:08:56 My knees finally said negative. Wrong place, wrong time, but no, but it was, I ended up having to sit out for like two weeks, but they made me sit out I was at practice on Wednesday the next week, so I was I was trying to get back in there But you know the team was trying to be smart In this precautionary about it. You already know that makes sense 100% When you need caps in the back of your calf, they should wait for further diagnosis I was I was pretty I was pretty hyped because I have small calves and so it kind of made it kind of bulge out a little bit more. That was a boy saved that picture.

Starting point is 00:09:29 Like, oh yeah. It's what these calves need to look like. That's some good shit right there. Pat, now that you've been on the show, the new Heights name we've been thinking about. What about new Heights mahomies? Is that you kind of already have them, mahomies out there. We don't want to interfere with the foundation work. Yeah, I think y'all, I mean, I love my homies,

Starting point is 00:09:47 but for y'all, it's got to be new Heights homies. Because I mean, you got to follow the eight new Heights homies. I mean, that just flows off a little bit better than the mu homies, you know what I mean? So I think y'all, I like that one, but I like, I like, I like, what was the first one? Hooligans, I like that one too, that one too. That fits y'all perfectly.

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Starting point is 00:11:43 Or are we taking that? No, I thought that was pretty smooth. Sometime, everybody hit the little lift there now, then. Yeah, all right, here we go. Well, Pat, the biggest question on our audience is mind and really on our mind. We've all been drafted by Andy Reed. So we got to pay homage to Andy Reed.

Starting point is 00:12:01 And I think the only way to do it is to have a burger rating. The burger king himself, Andy Reed, King burger, officiantado. We've had a little bit of a debate on our show about what's the best burger joint. So we want to hear it from you out of these three. You got in and out five guys. What a burger. What a burger. He almost beat you to the punch. I mean yeah, I mean it was like he was he was just waiting for it to come out of my mouth It almost came out like what a burger what a burger. I was saying it regardless. It was it was I was coming out Dude water burger You're being a a little kid that grew up in Texas and water burger being down the street and mom's just like I mean I'm at work. What are you gonna do for food?

Starting point is 00:12:43 I mean I had to go water burger like every other day and I fell in love with it I've tried to get Travis in on it a little bit I've brought him to Kansas City I'm in on the train but the burgers I mean first off a world class and then they actually have a variety of things that you can get and I've put Travis on the honey butter chicken biscuit which is a little like little breakfast sandwich that they have there It's really slept on and let your problem text. I just love saying honey I'm about to chicken biscuit. I mean it's the chicken. These guys got great rhythm in their naming Telling you right. Hey, I'm gonna go to what a burger and get a honey butter chicken biscuit. What is it called?

Starting point is 00:13:19 The honey butter butter biscuit They got the chicken barbecue cheese Texas toast sandwich. I mean, there's so much that there's a variety there That's my favorite if it's so morning obviously going with the honey butter chicken biscuit But if it's anytime like past midnight, and I'm hammered and I'm going water burger That barbecue that barbecue sandwich that chicken sandwich on Texas toast And then and then to put the the kind of final stamp on it, the best ketchup I've ever eaten, and that's someone who's a ketchup connoisseur.

Starting point is 00:13:51 I mean, that's a very, very high praise. Where does it? Not just a Heinz 57? No, dude, the fancy ketchup at Waterburger is special. It is completely special. What makes you special? It's called never-a-hand ketchup. It's called fancy ketchup. It's called fancy ketchup.

Starting point is 00:14:05 It's called fancy ketchup. I think there's got to be like a thousand more milligrams of salt. This is crazy. This is crazy news. So this is where your love for ketchup started. Yes. A hundred percent. The waterberg.

Starting point is 00:14:18 The fancy ketchup. Everybody. So I'm now convinced. I've never been to waterburger and I really want to try it now. But I'm convinced these guys are the advertising kings. Hey, how do we make ketchup better? Call it fancy. It's a whole trip. Oh, yes.

Starting point is 00:14:31 This guy is a lot of burgers killing it. I didn't even realize they were killing it like that. That's awesome. Are there any up on the East Coast? I haven't ever seen it up here. So I don't have to go to Texas to see it? No, so we actually have brought some to Kansas City now. There is a couple in Florida and a couple in Oklahoma, but Oklahoma until Kansas City was the most north they had ever been. And so I just worked my magic in there and met the right people there in Dallas, Texas, and I got them to bring it to Kansas City. And the the chief's kingdom has loved it so

Starting point is 00:15:01 far. We're going to keep that thing going. All right now. I know what I'm getting next time I'm in KC. You're dirty. You know it. Well, let's move on to these Andy Reed stories, man. I know I got a plethora of them. Take take us back to the first day. You kind of met coach Reed. Maybe was it draft day or was it did he bring you in before? Yeah, no. So the the first day that I met coach Reed was at the facility. We had like the meetings, like the top 30 visits.

Starting point is 00:15:28 And so that was the first time I really met him. They, at that time, there was like no time limit. So I was in there for like five hours. Just, he just going through plays, going through plays. And I'm going, just gonna give you all the inside scoop. Matt Nagy, who was our quarterback coach now, was the offensive coordinator then. He really liked me me so he gave me the plays they're gonna go go over the night before so coach Reads find out here live on New Heights

Starting point is 00:15:53 podcast. Oh my God. And so Maggie. Maggie. He gave you as he could have test. Let's go. And so yeah. So of course I crushed the meeting. I stayed up all night studying those plays And so this kid is locked in we got ourselves And so the rest was history man, I met coach Reed he went over the plays we wouldn't have some lunch He had a couple cheeseburgers And then we went back and I went on back on the board and I seemed like I was a guru in a sense I knew every single plan every check when I'm back on the board and I seem like I was a guru in a sense that I knew every single plan every check.

Starting point is 00:16:25 That's go. That's fucking epic. Shout out to Nags. Man, it's been awesome to have Nags back in the building too, man. Dude, he's the best man. And I mean, I loved Kafka and Kafka's doing great stuff there in New York on the Giants now. He was a, he was a teammate with Jason.

Starting point is 00:16:39 Oh, yeah. Dude, my, my first quarterback room, Mike Kafka was one of the backup quarterbacks. Matt Nagy was the quality control coach in there. Doug Peterson was the quarterback coach. And Andrew Reed was the head coach. That's amazing. That was the whole lineup right there. It's crazy to see how all of their careers continued.

Starting point is 00:16:58 And Nick Foles. Foles he was in there, wasn't he? Yeah, well, he was there my second year. He got drafted second year. Yeah, no, but it's crazy to see, man. I mean, every coach that, I mean, you know this with coach Reed and, and now his tree is like every coach that's in that building starts off quality control and within like five to 10

Starting point is 00:17:15 years as a head coach somewhere. It says that there's do it the right way, man. You already know, he's got the, he's got the magic formula, man. He's got the man and in bags, bags, obviously, he had a stint in Chicago, but him being back, man. It's his energy and his ability to teach the certain plays that he's teaching in terms of the past game, man. It just makes it so much easier on guys,

Starting point is 00:17:36 especially on like a transition yearward. We got a lot of new faces in the wide receiver room. You can't say enough about how the coaching staff has made it easy for guys to come in, learn the offense and play free, man. Yeah, it's been fun, man. And obviously we have EB2, who EB is that guy that can get the best out of you, and get the most out of you every day. Holes people accountable, and then they have a guy like Nagy who's another form of a teacher. It's good to be able to hit him with both ways of teaching to get the best out of everybody. Like, yeah, well, a lot of people don't understand is that the QB room is arguably the most competitive situation every single day. Like, when I tell you, I hear Nagi arguing about

Starting point is 00:18:16 a rule of like how they're going to judge a certain point, like, it's every single day on like, who's putting together the Blitz cards. Who's putting, you know what I mean? And it's just, it's little stuff like that. And it's just ultra competitive. And they all talk about it. It's one of the most fascinating dreams I've ever been in. And I don't know about you, Jason, but I'm just going to say,

Starting point is 00:18:38 I'm kind of an asshole about the Blitz protection plan. I want that to be pristine before we get step into the game. I have, yeah, I can't say things on the show, but yeah, I get very animated when it comes to the cards. Scout team looks, splits pickup. Dude, I've literally gotten so pissed that I've down and I had to reel it back because it's just practice. I'll literally go up and yell at the people across me. It's like they're not going to fucking do it like that. Don't play inside fucking do it like that. Don't play inside leverage when it's single eye.

Starting point is 00:19:07 Don't say, don't care if I got out breaking route. Let's make more work to get this get open in this route. So in their defense, the guys are out there, especially during the walkthroughs, aren't in the meetings where we're making a lot of these decisions a lot. So like, it's like, oh yeah, when this guy's outside leverage a tear, when the single eye, when the field safeties at this spot of the field, it's going to be this or the

Starting point is 00:19:28 boundary safety is here. Like, and then you go out there and those guys are just doing like a generic look. And it's not tied into it at all. And it's frustrating. That's one of the worst, dude. And I'll call him out immediately. I'm just yelling, get your cards right. Get your cards right the whole time. We're for those of you that don't necessarily know what the cards are and everything. The get your cards right. Get your cards right the whole time. For those of you that don't necessarily know what the cards are and everything. When the offense is, first team offense is up. We'll have a scouting card to give a good look on what we think that the defense will play in the game

Starting point is 00:19:58 so that each, what is the strategy or each situation will have a good idea of how to run something or the certain type of look that we're expecting to get. And sometimes the looks are just like, I got nothing out of that play. Well, I think it's a mark of a good team though. When you're focused on the details, it makes a big difference. And it's hard to get those details right for a scout team in the middle of a week. But yeah, it's frustrating for sure. Well, let's get back to Andy reading the 2017 draft man Makes the Alex Smith trade in 18 was there a passing of the torch kind of like conversation

Starting point is 00:20:38 I mean you and Alex were like brothers You know what I mean? It was it was awesome to see how he embraced that situation, how you embraced that situation. That year was so much fun, because Alex had his best year. You know what I mean? And we took off as an offense, but just touching on that,

Starting point is 00:20:56 was there any between you and coach or between you and Alex kind of that passion, the torch? Yeah, I think it was more me and Alex at that time. I just thanked him, man. I mean, he could have been someone that just kind of went off and did his own thing, but he welcomed me into that quarterback room. Yeah. I know I'm getting all serious now, but like, he like he didn't have to do that. I mean, he could have just went out there and done his thing, and been a great quarterback like he was that year. And let me be on my own, but he taught me so much.

Starting point is 00:21:23 It helped me become a better player, because coming from college, dude, you just kind of go out there and you just, you ball, you just, you just figure it out out there. But I learned how you, you become a pro. And I think that's what made me have so much success early in my career was, I was just watched Alex, and was like, man, I want to do that.

Starting point is 00:21:38 I need to do this to prepare myself. And so after he got traded, I thanked him. I had a great relationship with his family. I still do see him out in Tahoe We'll put the golf tournament out there But he he did it the right way man, and that's why he had so much success in his career And I think he's gonna test it that man even before I was here. He was having success in this office Pro pros pro man. You can't say enough about smitty man. You're talking about kind of like how he he taught you how to be a

Starting point is 00:22:02 professional he taught me just in his actions alone. I tell I tell the story of how you the wives and girlfriends were in a volleyball league. The wives and girlfriends of the team were in a volleyball league. So we we made it our job on Tuesdays and just go and at least you know show them some support that they show us on game day and showed up on their game day and I pull up on pat on the at the car and he's got this notebook and obviously he's watching film that this notebook is just full of like shit that I can't even read. And I'm trying to figure out what he's doing. I'm just like, man, I ain't doing that.

Starting point is 00:22:36 I need to be doing that shit. What is that? That's it. Taking notes like, God, I'm what he's doing there. But it's just like, did he, did he teach you a certain level of like a professional, like little like Nuggets of Gold, like that? Like I'm not even sure what to even ask in terms of that.

Starting point is 00:22:52 Because I think the biggest thing Alex did for me was teach me what I need to watch film-wise during the week, what days to watch it to prepare yourself for the next day. And for me, I now I come in Monday Tuesday and I'm just watching games. I obviously watched the game we played the day before. But I'm watching like five to six games or the other team just to get a general sense

Starting point is 00:23:10 of the feeling of what they're doing. And then after we put the base installed plan in, I watched the third down cut up before I leave the building that day because Alex did that. It taught me to get, let's get a day ahead on the third downs. Before I step in here and we get the plan in here, let me have a day ahead on that

Starting point is 00:23:24 and then the same thing the next day with the red zone and then the short-argin goal line. It's the same, every day I kind of would just add a little by little so it didn't overwhelm me and I wasn't watching so much film at once but I have a good feeling for each situation in the game and it helped me so much because instead of just playing out there when I get in situations in the game, I have a good feeling for the defense likes to get to these coverages They like to play this leverage on the DB with the DBs And it and it helps me execute at a high level. So have an Alex man. I'll forever say it man

Starting point is 00:23:55 It probably made my game jump Three steps What when it when I could have took three years to get those three steps? One hundred percent man. There was probably a lot of trial and air through that guy's career that got him to the point where he got that perfect routine Monday through Friday. Dude, the guy had seven offensive coordinators in six years in San Francisco, man.

Starting point is 00:24:14 I mean, he literally had to learn about like the trial by fire. And he taught me how to not make those same mistakes. And from little things like in the in under center, I'm coming from the shotgun every single play. He's like, Hey, have your feet like this. I'll help you get out from under center faster. I mean, like just little things like that, you would never think of when you step into

Starting point is 00:24:32 the league. Jay, man, those those vet, those vet guys you can lean on, man, you don't realize how much they they change your perspective on the game until I want, I want to say until they leave. But I that for me, that was huge for a guy like Anthony Fesano, my first couple of years coming in and just observing how he's a professional Monday through Friday.

Starting point is 00:24:53 And to find those routine things to keep your body fresh every Sunday, you gotta do certain stuff in the way room on the field and recovery and all this stuff. And Anthony did a, he didn't have to do that. Like you said, there's a lot of guys out here that are saying, I'm not a mentor man, I'm not out here, you know, bullshit.

Starting point is 00:25:12 All right, if you're a team guy, you're gonna help the guy next year, no matter if the world thinks he's better than you or not. You know what I mean? Like I genuinely, I love feeding the tight ends that come into this building with as much information as I could possibly give him on how to get open and routes how to how to Be more comfortable in this offense

Starting point is 00:25:30 If you're not helping out the guy next to you What do we fucking go exactly and uh and More times than not it doesn't work out for the other guy that doesn't want to help him because usually the guy that doesn't want to help him is Not helping because of like some perceived job security threat. And I've seen that not work out so many times. Most of the times when a vet is willing to help somebody else, not only are you helping that guy, you're helping the room, you're helping the team, you're helping like the entire culture. And it, you know, the way this business works is when you're winning everybody gets taken care of everybody. Andy Reed, the reason why all those coaches keep getting hired

Starting point is 00:26:07 everywhere is because he wins, right? He sets up these cultures that are successful. And, um, you know, I think all of all of us have been fortunate to be on good cultures where you see that most of the time be the case. And, um, it does go a long way. It goes a long way. Even not even not even specifically helping,

Starting point is 00:26:27 just being welcoming, man. Just like being a good person, welcoming, and having confidence in a younger guy is sometimes like the biggest thing you can do. Yeah, and on the other end of that too, the guy that's, the young guy has to show that they're doing it the right way. That's the biggest thing.

Starting point is 00:26:44 And I think that's what Alex kind of understood about me was I didn't I wasn't going around like asking like what are you doing here here here I would just follow him and just learn hey what time you're going to be in the building on Monday when we have our off day He's like I'm coming to nine. I'm there at 845 sitting in the room waiting for him to get there. So just just stuff like that. That's how you that's how you get better in this game. That's awesome stuff man get back to Andy Reed though man. The commercial was my favorite stay farm commercial of all fucking time. You got some good stay farm commercial. They do it right over there. How did that how did the commercial come about man? Because it's not easy to get coached to do stuff like that. Hold up now over there, Jason. So, like we're having the problem with Travis right now, I was terrified to ask him to be on the commercial.

Starting point is 00:27:33 So they asked me first, they were like, hey, will you ask Coach Reed to be on the commercial? And I said, 100% not. I will not ask him to do that. And so, you guys are crazy, bro. If y'all want to, y''all y'all go ahead do your thing And so they asked him he asked me first. He's like you cool with me doing this like if you want it me to do it I'm like I would love it good to be a hilarious

Starting point is 00:27:52 And so we got dude so I get there and he's already on set and He's already shooting and because he's the he's the star of the shit of that commercial He's the star of the show and so I come come on set, I can just see, you know, y'all know, Coach Reed's look man, he was not having it. He had been on set for a couple hours. He was not having it at that point. And then he turned around and sees that mustache on me brightened his day up.

Starting point is 00:28:19 He's brightened his day up. All of a sudden, he's cracking jokes. He's at live and making his own lines up everything. That was a classic. I got it early and I sent it immediately to Trav and I was like, dude, you gotta watch this. I was in tears, dude. I showed everybody, man. That's she was awesome. But now he messed up because now he's gonna have to hop on another commercial. He doesn't even know it yet. So he's not that being on court. He has to have one.

Starting point is 00:28:42 After that performance, you've got to have us. Yeah, you got to have a sequel. No question about it. That was awesome, man. Jason's on you, bud. All right. Well, you and Travis are knowing for having quite the bromance, Pat. I see you guys hanging out all the place.

Starting point is 00:28:59 I got to make it out there with Tahoe with you guys one year, but it's such a big bromance that even Brittany is jealous. How jealous she was of your guys relationship a few weeks ago. What were your honest first impressions of Travis and vice versa? How did this bromance come together? Should I tell him the story, dude? That's your call. That's my call. That look on me. But so obviously I get here at the beginning of the beginning of the year and I'm still a rookie. That's your call. That's my call. That's my call. That's your call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's your call. That's my call. That's my call. That's your call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's your call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's your call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's my call. That's career was, you remember when we had the fourth preseason game, we used to have a little off time. You had like a little weekend, you played on Thursday, you played on Saturday.

Starting point is 00:29:49 We know coach, coach Reed always would give you the walkthrough the day before the actual walkthrough. And me being a kid fresh out of college, I had a couple of buddies that were rookies with me and they're like, let's go out Saturday, man. Let's go out. We'll have the walkthrough on Sunday. Johnny, coach, you got done. We're done with preseason. Just got back from St. Joe's.

Starting point is 00:30:06 We had a great preseason. So we go out and coach Rita told us the next day at eight o'clock, we're gonna have a 15 minute walk through done. That's all you have on Sunday. So I set eight alarms on my phone. I have them all. I go out with the rookies. Of course, I get out there and I see old Travis Kelsey

Starting point is 00:30:23 out at the same spot as I'm at and I'm like hey look Travis like Travis like come on get all y'all come to come over here to take this let's have a great time so I have a great night get home have all my alarm set I'm made sure of that go to sleep wake up not to an alarm wake up look at the TV and I see 815 on my TV screen on the resting thing. I didn't put my phone in the charger. So my phone died. And the rookie mistake too many times. And so drive to, so obviously drove to the facility extremely fast, dangerous. You can't over the initial that initial feeling of

Starting point is 00:31:05 understanding that you're not going to make it there on time is the most like no no no no no this isn't happening this is happening am I dreaming and then immediately immediately you just start telling yourself how uselessly stupid how could you do it you suck you idiot you're so unaccountable man. Get it together man. And then it took complete the story. I get there and I get to the facility and they're already in the walkthrough obviously already going and I walk up to the door and like how the chief facility is built though

Starting point is 00:31:38 defense does it on the first side of the field and the offense is on the other side. And I was like there is no chance I'm walking through the defense late to get to the office side of the walk side. And I was like, there is no chance. I'm walking through the defense late to get to the offense out of the water. Hey, going out there. Meanwhile, we're playing the Super Bowl champs, the Patriots, like the opening night that week. And so I sit in the locker room, and I'm a sitner shaking my head, and they call me up to the office.

Starting point is 00:32:00 And I get like the max fine. All this different stuff. Feel like an idiot. And I just, I thought it was so weird that the first question they asked me was were you a Travis? And I was like no no not at all. Why would you even ask that and Long story short Travis was also late he got there five minutes Dude I'm coming into the building like fuck man fuck, man, I can't believe I'm fucking screwed.

Starting point is 00:32:27 This is up again, man. Because I'm not going to say I'm notorious for labor. But I screwed up a few times before and it's been late. So I'm in my head about it. I'm like, man, coach, reach is going to kill me, man. I can't even look at this guy in his eyes. I'm going to be looking down at the ground while he tells me I'm the worst teammate ever, man.

Starting point is 00:32:43 And I walk into the building. And they're like, were you with Pat last night? Where's Pat at? I was just like I'm not alone man at that point and I knew where teammates man I knew that guy was gonna have a super bowl I will say since then though I believe me and Travis have never been late again. So we have been on the straight and arrow since then. So I won't be late again. I don't know about

Starting point is 00:33:12 Travis. I can't. I don't think Coach Reed will stand me ever being late again. So I have to make sure I get my ass off of going early man. I was late one time in college. Do you remember the college rule? And since in Addie, if you were late for the Friday morning lift, they would make you the whole team do stadium steps. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Until the guy showed up and then it takes somebody to go behind.

Starting point is 00:33:38 I woke up same thing, realized I was late. And my street clothes went straight into the stadium and you started doing stadiums. This is cold man. Hey, your team hour and a half. This is how bad I was. Your teammates can respect that. Your teammates are like this guy cares. No, he's he feels bad about it. He's doing it in Timberlands.

Starting point is 00:33:57 I was I remember I used to I used to do what is I used to have like a psychological like yeah, man, I mean time is time, you know, back in college, like time, like I wasn't really pressed about being late. So I would show up later, something like that. And I would get told I gotta be at that five o'clock stadium step running, I would fuck, I would be ready. Like I would be, that was the only thing I was on time for. And just like Rocky Balboa that shit,

Starting point is 00:34:24 just like sprint the fuck out of them. It just be like, I'm getting better today, baby. So they stopped making me run stadium steps and started making me push pennies on like the, the weight room floor, which is not a slippery surface. You know what I mean? Yeah, I had to push penny with my finger and I wasn't allowed.

Starting point is 00:34:40 I heard a play pushes. No, dude. I've never heard of penny pitches. Penny's against a weight room floor, and I had to do it in a figure eight, and I wasn't allowed to be on like my knees or like, gling down. You're like bare-roar.

Starting point is 00:34:50 I had to stand up. It's due to the terror. Dude, couldn't get high for that one, so they beat me on the roll. The sickest thing I have done in college was, you know, you've done like the roles where you like, you have to get like this and this barrel roll across the field. Everybody's just throwing that in.

Starting point is 00:35:04 Yes, it's terrible. Well, my first punishment, it was a team punishment for everybody rolls where you have to get this barrel roll across the field. Everybody's just throwing at the entire. Terrible. Well, my first punishment, it was a team punishment for everybody was missing class. That Kingsbury had us do that, but he played Get your roll on, which I everybody get your roll on. He played it for like 30 minutes straight. Everybody's just rolling and throwing up on my,

Starting point is 00:35:21 this is a psychological warfare by Coach Kingsbury out here at Texas Tech. That's good stuff. When you hear that song to this day, do you have like Pavlov's dog like are you like immediately? No, I hate it. I hate it immediately. I like to think about his house sick. I was that that Wednesday morning at 4.30 before class. That voice stomach starts to turn it over man. That's good shit. Well, how is your guys relationship changed since that first meeting? Like no, Travis, he's a what he was a groom's man with you. Like, I mean, you guys have been together for what six years now.

Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah, yeah, it's our six, six season. Yeah, let me talk. Let me. Yeah, because the first time I actually remember meeting Pat was in the locker room, just daft him up and just observing his rookie year was extremely cool. We already talked about Alex and how they both, you know, kind of embraced that situation which was awesome. But Pat immediately became a favorite in the locker room because of that.

Starting point is 00:36:18 You know, because of how good of a teammate he was, because of how he embraced that entire situation knowing the elephant in the room. And he was just a genuine, natural, relatable guy to everybody. And I think a lot of that kind of goes back to you growing up in a locker room. You're being around all that with your father playing in the league and the MLB and being around all these different walks of life. You know what I mean? And his ability to relate to guys is one of his biggest leadership qualities. And I, you know, I, I tested that and I think that that was definitely what made me be like, man, this guy is a great teammate. He can ball. Like I, like, I just couldn't think of anything that you

Starting point is 00:37:02 were doing wrong, man, except for showing up late with my sorry ass. And it was cool to see, man. And then on top of that, obviously, you took it to a whole other level and got MVP the next year. So I had to make sure I shot a jauness on that one. And that's just cool, man. No, and then, like you said, as evolved over time, I think what's, which I think Jason knows too now from being in Kansas City a little bit here is, uh, I feel like

Starting point is 00:37:26 we both love and we put, we work our ass off in the building, um, but we like to have a good time and enjoy it with the people that we kind of were brought up with. And, uh, I love that about Travis is that, uh, he still hangs out with all his boys from Cleveland Heights, baby. I mean, you know, you know him. And so, uh, it's, uh, he still hangs out there. I still hang out with all my same buddies. I hung out, baby. I mean, you know him. And so he still hangs out there. I still hang out with all my same buddies. I hung out, played baseball, basketball, football with growing up.

Starting point is 00:37:50 And we've kind of, our groups have become friends because of that. And so we just, we like to have a good time. When we play golf, I feel like I've gotten Travis into golf even more, because I like to play golf so much. For sure. We like to, we'll have people over to the houses.

Starting point is 00:38:05 He'll invite me and all my family over to the house. I've been down there shooting some hoots with Jason a little bit. So we just like to have everyone just feel welcomed. And I think that's what has kind of built our relationship. And it's kind of evolved into what y'all see today. 100% man. And it just makes it fun, man. When you get when you're when you're going to work with guys that you respect that with guys that you love to have fun with

Starting point is 00:38:30 man, it just makes every single day that much better. And especially when you get a big time win on Sunday night, we're going to go rampard up, baby. Talk about golf though, man. We've been we've been to a few golf outings, man. You got any favorites outside? I mean, I feel like Tahoe is the ultimate. Yeah, Tahoe is definitely the ultimate, but I think our win in the Justin Timber Lake golf turning. The 8 AM invitation.

Starting point is 00:38:58 8 AM invitational. That was by far my favorite because me and Travis played out of our mind. I don't know where. I've never played that kind of. Travis played out of his, I thought you carried it. Well, go this Travis played out of our mind. I don't know where I've never played that Travis played out of it. I thought you carried it. Well, let me explain what happened the first day. The first day I I'm like the streakyest putter of all time. I call myself the JR Smith of putting because if you ever see JR Smith play basketball, he's a hit five threes and then miss five. It's also a great golfer. Great way better golfer than me. This is but he um so I did well I drove the ball well

Starting point is 00:39:25 Um, and then I we me and Travis traded off this kind of the second shots But for like the first nine holes. I could not make one put and Travis made all of them Dude and oh I get on when I get on the green I get this I get like the shakes I'm not I'm the worst on the fuck. I'm a mental head case. I can't see whether you got the belly putter I need to fucking switch it up whether you got the belly putter I'm going for loose Straightfully no lines or anything on it no sweet spot Just a piece of hot iron Looks great looks great. I think it's like 50 pounds, but it's it's pure gold

Starting point is 00:40:04 It looks like and we're first we're paired up with Michelle, we and Curedix and they're actually playing out of their mind. And I feel like we were down for a little bit and then we finally climbed back to neck and neck. And it was like their competitiveness and us being like, man, we gotta, we gotta keep it going. And they're gonna embarrass us. And then all of a sudden, I roll in like a 20 footer. Don't know how I made it, but it was a dead start of the whole time. And then the rest of the time, not just one, though, not just one.

Starting point is 00:40:32 I just couldn't miss a putt the rest of the day. I don't know. I've never been that he drained at least three on that back nine that were 10, 15, 20 plus. And it was, it was epic. And obviously you're in Vegas. So it's like the the the excitement At the end of that golf route just led to an epic evening at the day. I was just I was in I was just as hot on the tables after that It was it was a great weekend in Vegas

Starting point is 00:40:58 All right, so you guys do the golf. What do you guys do any other sports you to pickle ball? I know you guys got the basketball down there and Travis is baseman, but a big pickleball and Philadelphia. We definitely get after it and pickleball, man. There's a big spot out here called Chicken and Pickle, our guy, Gary Dator, over there helping out. He's got me into it. I don't know how else to explain it other than he was like,

Starting point is 00:41:20 hey, you want to come down to Chicken and Pickle? I'm like, what the fuck is that? That's exactly what I thought. He's like, we're gonna go play pickleball. I'm like, what is this? This is five years ago, by the way, before the trend of pickleball was like, I'm gonna throw it. And so, you go out there and I'm in there with like jeans and like nice shoes.

Starting point is 00:41:35 And I'm like, I think it's like a bar. Occasionally, yeah. Which it is. It is a bar. It's awesome. And then by the end of it, every time I'm like, just don't, just don't go too hard. Just, and then all of a sudden, I'm dripping sweat like pulling my kids above my knees. I'm like it's every time The juices get flowing man, and I feel like all competitive athletes don't necessarily know that actual rules of pickle balls

Starting point is 00:41:58 So we just like initially we play oh, dude. I'm just playing a table tennis Jordan Melana six nine is serving overhand to me My brother. This is not acceptable. You cannot do this just ace I'm pretty good right there. I'm Drey Augusty. You got a lob in over. All right, it's got a bounce I didn't understand what the kitchen the kid I never understood what that was I'm just on the net the entire time I thought the red I thought the red zone was for me. I thought I was for three years. We just the immediate strategy was who could get to the nephers and they're going to immediately top it at a point.

Starting point is 00:42:36 Pick up all baby, who knew that thing would have took off the way it is, man. We got to get a team going, man. It's going to be an Olympic sport eventually. 100%. We might as well. Might as well go full throttle of try to go for gold. Well, on the today's show interview that you had, Pat, you said you didn't even have a tight end in college. That's great.

Starting point is 00:42:55 Do you and I don't even know, we kind of argued about this on one of our last shows, but just Travis even a tight end. But anyways, what's it feel like the habitat? No, I mean, it was, do you prefer the tie down or? Dude, I love having a tie down. And I have a few, having a few. I would have a few of them. Yeah, but no, it was cool for me to see. I mean, I come from an offense to spread out.

Starting point is 00:43:19 We were throwing the ball over the yard, but it was all receivers and running backs that could play receiver, all that different type of stuff. And kind of like the Eagles have out there. But it's, we, when I got, I saw Travis, I mean, obviously, I got blessed with, with Travis as my first tight end that I had seen. And I was like, I mean, wait, this guy can be this big

Starting point is 00:43:38 and he, he blocks and then he runs her out like this. But this is awesome. And so, yeah. And so we've been blessed that Coach Rhee does a great job of getting the Titans involved in the offense. 100%. Travis, luckily enough for me, it seems like the older he gets, the younger his legs get.

Starting point is 00:43:56 So it's helped out to be someone that could be that safety blanket for me. And it's been cool to see him evolve, because I mean, now, I think he was in year six when I got here and now I'm in year six and he's still rolling, there's still making things happen. All right, now I will say this, Andy Reed definitely created like a new version

Starting point is 00:44:13 of the tight end position. Yeah. And without a doubt, I think it kind of tests him being a tight end coach in Green Bay. I love coach Reed, he does little stuff like this. He opened the door in the tight end, and all the tight ends are just sitting at. He uh he opened the door in the tight end room All the tight ends are just sitting at the table. He opened the door the tighter room. He's like name one coach It's ever had two pro bowl tight ends in

Starting point is 00:44:33 One season where I was What is that mean it's got it. It's got to be it's got to be it's like Right here, and I guess he I guess he had two of them in a green bay. It had to be green because I don't know where else. He was a tight coach. He told me that too. I can't remember who the second guy was. It's crazy.

Starting point is 00:44:51 I didn't even know that was possible. But I guess Brett Far was out there slinging into the tight ends, man. So he's got he's in Philadelphia. I think he was in trying to think. I think he was the tight end coach. He was the tight end coach. They had two of them and had two of them.

Starting point is 00:45:02 He has a tight end coach. But then he moved on to quarterbacks and then moved on to OC and got the job in Philly. But I think that kind of understanding of how productive the Titan room or how the mismatches could be kind of when I got to Kansas City, I was a traditional Y-Titan. I mean, I played the second end because Fassano was the starting tight end for the first two years, but I was the, I was kind of like that move guy, but when Fassano left and I moved into the starting role, I was a Y-Tide end. I was running power, I was running one-back, two back power, inline blocking, doing a lot of deep cross stuff, and then slowly started to step out away from the line and

Starting point is 00:45:51 getting called these routes that we're running now, which is more ride receiver style routes against DBs, knowing that we're getting man coverage and I can use my ability to stem and speed to get away and stuff. But he definitely recreated that tight end position for me. And I mean, obviously the coach's coach read is done. I'm like, oh, everything in my career to that guy. But he definitely switched it up and made this offense more friendly for me to have success in the man. And I love him for that. No, I've got a lot to that guy. Oh, dude. Oh, everything. And I believe that you were,

Starting point is 00:46:28 I've seen that. Have you ever seen that Scott then, Pellet when it's like, and Kelsey, like, it was a bad. The bad guy was at least two, at least 285 right there. Oh, man. I was cute. We had a good story about Jason taking my helmet after that. There's a whole highlight video from his college tape of him blocking and being like an inline tight end that I made. know who made you know made my college highlight tape Oh, yeah, if you haven't seen it unseen footage of Travis Kelsey Jason Kelsey production baby, I think it's still on my Facebook Nice face maybe I haven't logged in there. Yeah, I haven't logged in a while

Starting point is 00:47:03 All right, let's do it, man. Career rewind, career rewind. I am sure what happens. But I suppose you're giving me some time twister. Draft night, we all, we all have draft day surprises. We shared Jalen's draft day surprise about the Eagles. And that was awesome to hear. And then obviously your draft day was, was wild, man. There was a lot of big time, big name quarterbacks coming out. The Bears traded up to number two and the Chiefs traded up to number 10. Did you know, I mean, what

Starting point is 00:47:33 you asked you knocked it out the park. Yeah. You knocked the interview out the park, but did you know where you surprised with the Chiefs or what? Yeah, no, I was surprised they traded up so far to get me, but I knew. So the whole draft process, I thought I was surprised they traded up so far to get me, but I knew, so the whole draft process, I thought I was going to be kind of a late first round pick, and I was honestly kind of happy about it. Isn't this mind-blowing? You were, oh man, just mind blowing. But I was honestly happy about it because when you're in that late first round, it's

Starting point is 00:47:58 where the real good teams are and you're still a first rounder, so you're really like, you're like, I can go to a good team being a great situation and As the process went on I could I kind of feeling that I was kind of going up in the draft and I had a couple of teams that I think I've been out there now that said they were gonna draft me and they're I mean that's true Like it's not like these coaches are making that up. I talked to them During the draft process never like hey if you're there, we're gonna we're gonna take you and so I'm just gonna I kind of gave a little inside info to the the cheese. And I was like, Hey, if y'all let me go anywhere below at the time, I didn't know about the same spot. I was like, y'all let me go 12 or below. I'm gonna get drafted by someone else.

Starting point is 00:48:34 You drafted yourself. So I gave the cheese. I gave the little bit of info on that. And now because I want to be a savvy. I wanted to be here. And I gave a little info on that. And I don't know who was that 12 that time I knew right around there as well as when get drafted and I texted I didn't text right V's my agent talked to Brett Vich and the chief staff and I remember at about pick 9 or 10 Vich sent my agent a little picture of a red raider with the guns up. And so I knew that the cheese for drafting me, and it was cool, and I was back home. I was back home with my family.

Starting point is 00:49:10 I remember I get drafted and all this, like obviously you're celebrating with the family and everything like that. And then we go to the hole in the wall bar. My dad's been gone to forever. So I don't have to still keep peeing. I still keep peeing. We're playing darts with all my homies from back home. My dad's holding the wall bar, and it's like standing room only. I'm not sure if you're ever. I'm not sure if you're ever. I'm not sure if you're ever. I'm not sure if you're ever. I'm not sure if you're ever.

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Starting point is 00:50:28 So I'm talking about kicking over at 127 West Nixon. Oh yeah, so we're all over getting ready for the... And I knew I was a day three guy. You know, I knew I wasn't going to get drafted above round four. But I thought I was going to get somewhere around four. And really, there are only three teams interested in me. Kansas City Chiefs, ironically, was the team I thought I was going to get somewhere around four. And really, there are only three teams interested in me. Kansas City Chiefs, ironically, was the team I thought I was going to get drafted to. Who was that?

Starting point is 00:50:50 Who was that? Who was that? Piole was the GM at the time. And head coach was. Todd Haley. Todd Haley. Thank you. And they seem, yeah, he's locked in. And he's dialed in. Big cheese guy over here. They seem yeah, he's locked in. And he's dialed in. And uh, I ran that. Yeah, it was either the chiefs, the St. Louis Rams or the Philadelphia Eagles and the chief

Starting point is 00:51:14 selected Rodney Hudson, shout out to Rodney, unbelievable center still doing this thing. And um, when they picked him, I was like, oh man, this ain't looking good. They picked him in like a second round. I was like, I don't know what's gonna happen now. I think it's still like round six, and I'm like, this is not looking good. And I looked at my phone on the app, and I was like, okay, the ego's got like two picks

Starting point is 00:51:35 in the six round back to back. I'm like, maybe this happens. And sure enough, a two one five number comes up, and it's big red. And he's like, all right, he's, he first he asked me, he's like, okay, everything good. Yeah, any injuries you want to tell me about or anything? I'm like, not man, I'm good. I'm straight. He's like, all right, this is how it's going to work. I'm going to hand the phone to our offensive court or GM first high Roseman.

Starting point is 00:51:57 Then I'm going to hand the phone to our offensive court in their marty morning wig, then the Howard mud, the offensive line coach. And yeah, and we're gonna draft you with this next pick. How you feel? I'm like, coach, I'm excited. He's like, all right, you ready to go? I was like, yeah, he's like, all right, what did I just tell you? And I'm like, I don't remember anything.

Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah. The test, the first day, the first phone call. First phone call, he's like, hey man, you're gonna be playing in front of 75,000 people. I'm gonna need you to know and dial it in here. I was like, big ride with a win again. I'm drafting. Coach Reed's got bangers man. I don't know my dad's crying right in front of me right now. I don't know what to say.

Starting point is 00:52:38 He probably gets a kick out of just the response as he gets in those moments man. That's great shit right there. We obviously know about the Bears selected a Mitch and Trabisky over you. We just talked about them going up to number two. Even Mitch himself for Cleveland guy. We love Mitch. Any truth to the 2019 moment against the Bears man, the one, two, three, four, five, we think we got 10 fingers here. 10th pick, man.

Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah, I mean, of course, you gotta have some of this, man. But it was, to me, it wasn't, it was never directed towards Mitch. I have a ton of respect for Mitch. He's a great guy. Let them to a lot of wins. Man, if you ever look back at it, I think you got a bad rap a little bit. I mean, he led them to a lot of wins over. And you got back at it, I think he got a bad rap a little bit. I mean, he led them to a lot of wins over there. He's got a bad rap, man.

Starting point is 00:53:28 You can't say any different, man. And so it, but it was more of, when I left that meeting, you know, when you leave a building, you kind of have a feeling like, yeah, I did great there. They're how they were talking to me for sure. If they, if they're going to take somebody, it's going to be me. Yeah. And so I had that feeling kind of from a couple of teams

Starting point is 00:53:43 and they were one of them. And so I just felt like I Didn't feel disrespect. I don't want to say disrespect it But I felt like they gave me the kind of Imputation that they were gonna take me and then so the first time I played them I was pretty hyped up for the game to say the least and so I think I believe you caught the touchdown right there Huh? Yeah, the last The little vice-grape route. But he caught the touchdown and I let the emotions. Me and Trab talk about this.

Starting point is 00:54:11 I don't know about you, Jason. Sometimes I do stuff from the field. I don't even remember doing it. Just kind of black out. I'll do it. And so once I saw that, they got it on video. I try to wait until I got to the sideline. They got it on video.

Starting point is 00:54:22 And of course, I knew the question was coming. And I was just like, no, man, I just checking my fingers and make sure they were all still there. So I've got these things working. They're working. Jason only has nine so that counts. So we talk about the blackout moment just a little bit. I think that you're excitement. You're you're how locked in you get on to the game. That's really the blackout moment. It's not that you know I I promise you I did this during the SB's man. I recently just I did like little segments at the SB's Steph Curry absolutely rocked hosting it and that was cool to see but I was doing little snippets here and there and my first snippet in the SPs. I'm reading the prompter, perfect, say a load of Joe Buck and now we're pool hosts as they walk by and kind of add

Starting point is 00:55:13 live a little bit, come back to it and I just immediately just start to like, I want to say black out, but I do not remember finishing. That's the sentence that was on the that was on the prompter. And I hear the music cue and all of a sudden, you know what I mean, they're going into the next scene and I'm looking at everybody and everybody's looking at me like you did great and I was just like, I don't know what I just did.

Starting point is 00:55:35 I don't know what I just said. And I think that, exactly. And I have those moments for whatever reason where I just get so excited and so engulfed in the moment that I just, I don't really think about what I'm doing in the moment. I just kind of I don't know. I just do it. I mean it's called being in the zone. You guys are two ballers. You just went in the zone this past game on Sunday night. Like you're going to autopilot. You guys got these minds that just, you know, when you're in the moment, you can't operate at the speed necessary to be that creative and that instinctual by thinking about doing that stuff.

Starting point is 00:56:13 It just like happens, it's hard to explain, but I think that's exactly what you guys are explaining. Like, you're just truly in the moment and you're reacting. And it takes a long time to get that comfortable doing something. And I think the more prepared you are, the better chance you can get to that. But you also kind of just got to be a special type of player,

Starting point is 00:56:35 man, like to get to that level and to be able to make decisions correctly while also just kind of operating on autopilot. Like it's kind of crazy to think about, but- I mean, I'm too definitely got that. I'm not gonna lie, I'm terrified of teleprompters. Terrified of them. So, I'm one of my worst fears. I went to the SPs one time, and of course,

Starting point is 00:56:55 I was at the SPs. They wanted me to come home stage and read a little thing for the firefighters in LA and how they were out there battling fires when we played the Rams that year. I mean, so much respect. I'm like 100% doing this. So I wanted it to be great. So I memorized the whole speech the night before.

Starting point is 00:57:13 And I was like, I'm just gonna do it straight off memory. I've practiced this in my mirror. I'm ready to go. And I remember I was looking out there and I was looking, you know, you're talking, but you don't wanna be direct eye contact with anyone in the audience. And so I was talking and I was kinda looking and I caught the teleprompter and I was looking you know you're talking but you don't want to make direct eye contact with anyone in the right in the audience And so I was talking and I was kind of looking and I caught the teleprompter and I was like oh no I'm I got to just start reading it and of course I

Starting point is 00:57:33 And it comes up it starts coming up and I'm reading and I'm doing great and I see S.O. You and I'm like and For all the firefighters I mean the firefighters out there in South Carolina And for all the firefighters, I mean, the firefighters out there in South Carolina. Oh, my bad Southern California. And now ever since then, I'm terrified of teleprompters. You fixed it though. You fixed it though. That was the thing. You didn't just let it ride with South Carolina.

Starting point is 00:57:58 That's the thing. If you can fix it, you're golden. It doesn't matter if it's on the front or not, man. I said what I said. Don't run burgundy it. At least you're not around burgundy just saying whatever on there yeah so uh kind of moving on here what was your uh what was your first oh shit moment in the NFL I've I've had probably three or four of them against some big time goons. Jason referred to a block in Ray Lewis for the first time, but Ray Lewis, London Fletcher, like that moment where you're like, man,

Starting point is 00:58:31 I'm really in the NFL right now. Like for me, it was always these older guys that you watched playing and all of a sudden you're like competing against them. Like it was crazy to me. But yeah, what was that for you? For me, it was a game. It's crazy. It was a game I didn't even play in. It was the first game we played that we played that when I was late to me. Yeah. Yeah. What was that for you? For me, it was a game. It's crazy. It was a game I didn't even play in.

Starting point is 00:58:45 It was the first game we played that we played that when I was late to the meeting. The first game we played, we go to New England on Thursday night, opening, they dropped the banner, all this different type of stuff. And I remember running out in the field and being like, holy, this is the NFL. This is it.

Starting point is 00:59:00 Dude, I was in Pat and Go and I was firing. We're not patting everybody. There's a lot of them. I'm throwing 50 yard seeds down the sid firing. We're not patting everybody, just like, lovin' them. I'm throwing 50 yard seeds down the sideline. Everybody's like, what are you doing? I'm pumped up. And then I sat and I got to watch the game.

Starting point is 00:59:13 Obviously, we had a heck of a game playing cream hunt, had a heck of a game. And when they're in Alex. And so then we ended up winning that game. But to me, that was the first moment of being like, man, this is the NFL. I watched Tom Brady my entire life. So I'm like, we're playing Tom Brady, the New England Patriots.

Starting point is 00:59:29 And there's nothing like that post Super Bowl show. Yeah, like they built that thing. I like, they got like, like, like, like what do you call floaties coming on to the field to like celebrate how many rings they have. And you know what I mean? Like this was like a second branch. Exactly. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:42 rings they have. And you know what I mean? Like this was like the second prediction. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. First start week 17 of that season, we play the Denver Broncos. We're fortunate enough to have the number one C going into the last game and yeah, Sad Alex Smith and let one five go out there and sling it in the snow. Your Texas guy, man, what was was that the coldest game you ever played in? Leading up to that point. That was for sure the coldest game. It was 11 degrees Remember being on the sideline and just being bundled up and that not doing a goddamn thing Yeah, dude it was it was it was cool, man

Starting point is 01:00:15 And we got the we got the win. So that was all awesome. They had I mean they had their guys plan But I mean, you know, it's week week 1617 last game for the season so they're playing. Every time Tyler Miller is on the field it is going out there. They got to be ready. Don't fall asleep with that guy. The crazy the craziest part of that game was we got up we ended up getting up 24 to 10 and and coach Reed they end up taking me out of the game. It was in the fourth quarter and we were gonna let Tyler Bray play who it was a guy a great guy who had worked his tail off to be there and we had Sharon because we are running back at her you know we're down numbers and so Sharon was playing running back full time like that we at our full back I don't know Anthony Sherman for everyone that doesn't know the sausage.

Starting point is 01:00:56 And so he he was playing running back in we had outside zone called and he kind of he ran inside zone that's all full backs do so yeah a little miss handoff and I'm not making out to that tacking up staying this guard pocket ready here and we had a little a fumbled handoff the first play Tyler Bray was in touchdown and so the he scores touchdown and then he brave and then and then it's now we're in four minute mode and and we go two runs get to like third and six and we go pass and get an Incompletion they go right down the field again a score touchdown and tie the game And so they ended up putting me back in the game that game and I was able to get us in Phil go range

Starting point is 01:01:34 And we got the Phil goal to win but I'll tell you what when it's 11 degrees to get pulled out of the game and then put back into the game That's a good day's work. We got to re warm up and everything to the game. He's got to rewarm up and everything. It wasn't. Pack, get your helmet. What? I'm going. All right. All right. Going back in there. Warm this thing back up. Die. Gone. It was, it was well orchestrated. Yeah. Well, I got lucky though, because you know, like you there's always like one starter that is dressed, but he he's not supposed to play. Well, we had an injury at receiver and running back. So Sherman goes in at running back and we'll bring Albert Wilson back in at receiver. And I was like, well, I'm gonna throw a two

Starting point is 01:02:08 of him every single time. So he ended up having like 12 receptions from the second quarter on, like 130 yards. And he had two big receptions on that two minute drive. Yeah, Albert Wilson was awesome. That game, that was fun, man. You were actually the first QB in 38 years to be drafted by Kansas City and

Starting point is 01:02:25 start in your first year. Hit a early milestone and just been knocking them out ever since then man just to kind of talk about just the early milestones that you hit. I mean the first year you actually started. We took the league by storm 55 touchdowns MVP and V Pat man. MVP Pat was it was it was it shocking? Were you just on a roller coaster that you had no idea you were about to be on or that's exactly it. Dude, like now that I look back on it now, I'm like, I was on this roller coaster of just excitement. And I had no idea what I was doing. But it was, it was fun, man.

Starting point is 01:03:03 I want to throw this story in there as well. I remember my first game, Tyree had a huge game, but Travis had one reception for six yards. You look at our relationship now, and you would be like, that is crazy, but my dad tells us great stories. We win the game, and Travis, the team player, he's all hyped up in a locker room. My dad said, they go to the family area.

Starting point is 01:03:24 We have the family area, you see everybody, and Travis gets out there. My dad said they go to like the family area. We have like the family area. You see everybody and Travis gets out there first. And he's going to see the fam and everything like that. And he could just tell. Travis was like, kind of not down, but kind of like, man, I could have played better. And my dad, big silky pea, kind of went over there. He said he went up there and grabbed Travis's, hey,

Starting point is 01:03:39 he's gonna, hey, he's gonna throw it to everybody. But hey, so just know your time's coming. Your time's coming. Next game, we play the Steelers Travis has 142 touchdowns. And so, and my dad said he grabbed a matthreader and he said Travis came right up to him and was like, I told you. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:56 Silky Pied on line now, six Pied on line. But the excitement, I mean, we just, we rode that momentum the whole year, man. And we were out there slinging it around, scoring a lot of points. And it was a lot of fun, man. And winning that MVP was awesome. But I look at it now, and I'm just like, I didn't even appreciate how great that season went, how fun that season was.

Starting point is 01:04:16 We ended up losing the answer championship game, but it was a great, I mean, obviously a great starting point to my career, just to kind of go out there and say I can do it. Okay, to all the youngsters out there that are listening to the podcast, man, the transition from high school to college, from college to the pros, and being ready for all those moments, man. Do you have any like a just advice or anything that you could just throw out there for these guys? Yeah, I would say be all in. If you truly care about this thing, man, be all in. And when I look back at my career, I think about in college, I feel like I wasn't all in. I did everything I was supposed to do. I went to class, I would go do the workouts and stuff like that when I was supposed to be there. But once I got to NFL and saw what all in actually was, I realized why I didn't win more games in college. And so I just think, if you're going to really try to chase these

Starting point is 01:05:04 dreams, follow them, but if you're going to follow them, make sure that you're all in because in order to be great and to really succeed and to get to this part of your career, you have to be all in every day. You have to hear first folks. We've been talking about it for a while. Jason actually had a good story about Kobe saying fueling yourself with knowledge. I feel like that is so much just be serious, man. Just be knowledge. I feel like that has so much, just be serious, man. Just be curious. You just want to get as much information as possible

Starting point is 01:05:30 and just keep building that and building that. I also had a really, man, I think it's important to test your boundaries, man. Like for me, and college, I thought in high school, I knew what hard work was. And then I got to college and you're like, oh, man, I knew what hard work was and then I got the college and you're like, oh man, like I haven't been working hard at all. So college workouts are, they're middle workouts.

Starting point is 01:05:52 The first college work that I ever had and I kind of think this is good for like every freshman and really rookies to go through, like my first work that I ever had, the guy just, it wasn't even trying to be productive, he's just trying to beat the crap out of me. Yeah And he's at the end of the workout. We did so much upper body says all right, if you can take this Bosu ball like those big rubber balls. Yeah, if you can take this thing hold above your head and weighs about like five pounds Maybe and walk around the whole like gym Which was not that big and since an adi at the time we had to build the new one yet Then you can you don't have to clean up the way room. I made it like 10 feet.

Starting point is 01:06:30 But like before you do that, before you push yourself to those limits, you don't know that you can actually do that much work. You know what I mean? You don't know what truly being tired is. And so it's important to get to those levels. And just like you were saying, Pat, man, like, you got to be all in to get there. You got to like, you got to have faith in your coaches, your teammates and everybody that, you know, by giving it, you're all that it's going to work out. So Pat, you got a crazy stat out there. That I'm out the job right now. So I've been playing football for 12 years. This is my 12 season. We just had our first

Starting point is 01:07:07 Double digit comeback win in the fourth quarter in my entire career It's just a real equals that The last time they did it was in 2010 the year before I got there or something like that It was the miracle metal lands with DeShon Jackson, big D Jack taking the putter. So Pat, you have the highest win percentage when trailing by 10 plus points. You have a highest winning percentage of any quarterback in the history of the NFL above Tom Brady. Why don't you just spot teams 10 points? uh... you have a highest winning percentage of any quarterback in the history of the nfl above tom brady

Starting point is 01:07:45 uh... why don't you just spot teams ten points now that it's uh... that's on spacks man that's a that's a fact that you're gonna have ten points no it's uh... it's cool man uh... mean but i mean i said that i know it's the quarterback answer but it takes way more than me uh... if you think about that stat I mean, but I mean, I know it's the quarterback answer, but it takes way more than me.

Starting point is 01:08:05 If you think about that stat, that takes everybody. I mean, the defense has to shut the door. Just kind of like this last week in LA. I mean, if you look at the second half against a LA team that has freaking playmakers everywhere. The defense gives up one touchdown on a miraculous catch on a go ball down the sideline on third and 18. So, I mean, it takes the defense, has got to step up and shut the door. It takes the offense just finding a way.

Starting point is 01:08:29 That's a lot of the times. A lot of times you go out there and you score fast and then the defense is adjust and you kind of get in this little bit of a funk. And so when you can just find a way to just just, hey, let's just keep pushing. Let's just keep pushing. Let's keep finding a way.

Starting point is 01:08:42 I mean, it takes, it takes leaders. I mean, I mean,. I mean, obviously, I think of myself as a leader in the locker room, but you got Travis, you got Chris Jones, you got Willie Gay, you got Nick Bolton, you got Orlando Brown, you got Joe, everybody, they don't give up. And I think that's been a big thing,

Starting point is 01:08:57 and I think we've done it now a couple of times. And so once you've done it a couple of times, whenever you're in that situation, you're like, we're gonna find a way. We don't know how, but we're gonna find a way. And the craziest ones for sure, the Texans in the playoffs. I mean, what a change of events from how that game started.

Starting point is 01:09:14 And the vision around, we get down 24-0, and it's like, we can't find a way to make anything positive happen, and all of a sudden, they give us some life with a couple of fumbles, and we're back in the game. And so, it's just guys believing, man. And it takes more than me. It I think coach Reed and coach BNME,

Starting point is 01:09:29 all these coach spags, they lead us, they don't stop calling plays, they don't stop giving us a chance to make plays. And I'm gonna try to keep those numbers down so that we're not down, because it's not a great position to be in, but if we're there, we know we've done it before. There you go, man. One of my favorite coach, Coach B enemy, as you know, has some of the best quotes. The best.

Starting point is 01:09:50 Any football coach could ever have. One of my favorite ones is we have to find a way to drag our ass across the finish line. 100%. Okay, as long as we get across that finish line, I don't give a damn how we do it. Dude, dude, and you gotta have it, you gotta give yourself a chance to have a chance. Give yourself a chance to have a chance. To have a chance. Chance, maybe. I mean, just ones that, just ones that you would, you hear them all the time, you just

Starting point is 01:10:16 kind of throw them away and then you're in those moments and you're like, we just gotta drag our ass. I don't know how it is gonna happen? Howard madman Just shake his hand It's like like Sean goner oh Man this guy just went inside of me went outside of me ran right through me to play before that what do I do? Shake

Starting point is 01:11:06 Hey, man those little tidbits and make all the difference what uh What yeah, I guess Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah player like I don't know. Yeah, go ahead. I think you see I think you see it with all the greats And that's what I'm trying to get to is at the end of the day It doesn't it's not gonna be perfect. It's not gonna be the perfect pocket It's not gonna be the perfect the play calls not gonna be perfect every single time But how are you just gonna find a way to compete? And that's something that I pride myself on and I played every sport growing up And and I just wanted to win. I didn't care how it looked. I didn't care how it got done. I just wanted to win. And if you look at our, even our last drive, I mean, this last week, I mean, other than the last play when it kind of worked out perfectly, we had the man play called Travis Breaks Free wins and get scores. It was like we were kind of just making stuff happen on the fly. And so it's how can you be focused in chaos?

Starting point is 01:11:48 How can you not let the moment be bigger than what it is? And we've prepared ourselves. Coachery puts us in those situations, all training camp, all during the season. And a lot of times he puts the offense in a situation where it's not looked at as winnable. And so when you've been putting those situations, you go back to those fundamentals of, all right, I'm gonna go through my reads if it's not looked at as winnable. And so when you've been putting those situations, you go back to those fundamentals of,

Starting point is 01:12:07 all right, I'm gonna go through my reads, if it's not there I'm gonna run. I'm gonna go through my reads, and if it's not there I'm gonna scramble and try to get someone else to open. And it takes everybody, and I just try to do whatever I can to win at the end of the day, and it's worked out well for me.

Starting point is 01:12:20 But like I said earlier, I don't wanna be in those situations a time, but if we're there, I'll be ready for them. I feel like, um, and this is a big shout out to Tom But I feel like the standard of what those two-minute situations are. I mean, we've seen Tom Brady be in a situation like that And it's just he you know in the back of your mind like what's possible? You know what I mean? And to be able to Understand and be comfortable in the moment of what is possible. You know what I mean? It takes doubt and doesn't even make it a situation.

Starting point is 01:12:48 You know, and a lot of that goes to our guide, Joe Blamar, every single Saturday morning, putting us through like a two minute, Chris Burman, two minute or three minutes. I'm talking about from like Division three to the NFL. He's our high school and Alabama. He has every two minute situation you've ever seen. So we'll put more this more into perspective. Coach Blamar is our wide receivers coach,

Starting point is 01:13:11 but he does a lot on situation of football at the end of half at the end of game, so that we understand a lot of what's going on and to get more knowledge of what's possible. You know, on top of it, just being some of the most entertaining fucking shit, you know, we bring in the Cal Stanford, you know, the band is on the field. You know, he brought up the metal land, the miracle in the metal lands with the shan Jackson, yeah, the shan Jackson before, and he just, he makes it at ease being in those moments because we understand what's possible. On top of we got one five, we got Coach Reed dialing it up, we got the playmakers to make the plays and on top of that we've seen what's possible before. So there's a certain standard of, all right, what can we get done, how

Starting point is 01:13:58 we're going to attack them. And it's, it's, it's way, we talked about it kind of a little bit of just feeling comfortable in that moment, but it's that this past Sunday versus the charges was just, it wasn't necessary. I want to say it was a comfortable feeling, but we knew that two time outs left with a minute 40 left, what exactly was possible, man, and that only gave us confidence, you know. Yeah. Well, Pat, you said a couple of seconds ago that you don't really care how it looks, right?

Starting point is 01:14:29 You just want to win. Well for someone that doesn't care how it looks, you make it look good. That's what we're making. You look good. All right, behind the back. So, when you're doing all these like unique things, these creative things, are these things

Starting point is 01:14:43 that you've practiced before? Is there a method to it? Or are you just like trying to have fun? I'm for sure practiced. I try to put myself in those situations during the all season and practice the sidearm throws and no look throws and stuff like that. Not the behind the back, even though I want to still do it.

Starting point is 01:14:58 I'm scared to do it. But no. Every time he does it in practice, I just scream, do it in the game. I'm trying to see that shit. But no, every time he does it in practice, I just scream, do it in the game! Trying to see that shit! No, but you just try to prepare yourself for those moments. You know, the quarterback position has changed so much.

Starting point is 01:15:13 And like I said, everything's not perfect. I mean, these D-Liaman have gotten better and better, which I know you know. And so, I should be so easy. Fire's known over here, fire zone over there. We got this. But, uh, yeah. T-Stone, T-Stone.

Starting point is 01:15:33 Holy shit, where the fuck that guy come from? And then, and then my baseball background, I got this, like the sidearm stuff, but, uh, I will say, when I'm doing some of the stuff though, and the back of my head all I think about, is if this shit doesn't work Oh, coach really get it on my ass Just so I just make sure if I do throw the no-look pass or if I throw the side on pass that I make sure it's completed

Starting point is 01:15:55 Yeah, I threw I'm throwing a I throw on a pick before unfortunately and I couldn't even look Oh, it's really eyes. I just sigh through the picture. It was a beautiful It was a tight spiral look, it's really eyes. I just slide through the picture. It was a beautiful. It was a tight spiral. Should have never thrown it back across the field. I don't know what you were thinking, but it was a beautiful throw. The crazy part is he asked about it. I don't know if you've told this story. I think he asked about it in

Starting point is 01:16:13 install. He said, what if this guy is open and coach he was like, do not throw him the ball. Do not do not out of the question. There's now a progression in this Travis. And then I looked at D Rob. I was like, just run that shit. There's now a progression in this Travis and then I looked at D Rob. I was like just run Spass it was funny It was a it was against spags

Starting point is 01:16:31 This is against our The right ones against the giant long story short. I saw what they were in. I knew Tyreko's gonna get gloved Or not be open and I was just like you know what D. Brown's right slide I yeah all it took was an instinctual, like a few steps to the right. And just a peek, dude. Just a peek. It was like either I'm about to get tackled behind the line of scrimmage or this thing's going up. And it was my only chance to throw the ball in the national football league.

Starting point is 01:16:59 I mean, no one noticed in the game the other day, this dude pitched me the ball back. I made a horrible read the end crash and I still pitched it to him I was just like, uh here you go and then he was back in he made eye contact with him He was just like here. I was like, what am I gonna do with it? I'm just stuck with the ball now What you're gonna do you're gonna try to make a play I'm gonna be behind you and then you can then ladder a live back to me We're just gonna make a whole thing. It's blacked out. He's blacked out. He's in the zone. He's not thinking There's no thought process going on. This is true.

Starting point is 01:17:26 Who'd you do before? Was that LaShawn? Yeah, I did. McCoy? That play was so filthy. That was it. God, that might be one of my favorite plays. That was electric.

Starting point is 01:17:35 That was electric, man. It was electric. We had like five turnovers that game, I think, leading up to that point. So it's like everybody on the sideline, hold on to the ball. Hold on. Five points of pressure on that thing. High it's like everybody on the sideline, hold on to the ball. Hold on. Five points of pressure on that thing. High and tight.

Starting point is 01:17:48 Close the elbow, chin that thing. You know what I mean? Let's take care of it this time. We've kicked ourselves into face enough with these turnovers. And bad play breaks down. First off, I'm just running to the right and I'm just off my back foot. Just like, ah!

Starting point is 01:18:03 Somebody find it. He did 10 before he hit the ground he already pitched it I already knew where I was going with I felt Shady's eyes on me I'm just like oh yeah Shady's always ready. He's gonna be down in on this. He's got me but you don't got you. Well as a great player I guess is open up for all of us like is there any criticism about your game that either bothers you or you feel is legit? I'll go first.

Starting point is 01:18:34 I have always been criticized for my snapping and to be honest, it's not very good. I got a fast snap. It's off targets occasionally. It's really remarkable as someone who can't snap the ball that I'll play 12 years of center. Scott, are we weighing this thing out? We can deal with that. We can deal with that. That's awesome. For me, it's definitely blocking. It's not, that's no elephant. There's no secret, man. Everybody's harping on me about my blocking and things like that.

Starting point is 01:19:07 And I've taken hard to that, man. I've been a guy that, you know, I try and make myself more of a blocker, more of a physical presence in the run game, knowing how much I can have success in receiving and things like that. But, yeah, man, there's some good defenders out there. I don't know if you've seen, man, holding the block in the NFL isn't the easiest thing to do, although George Kittle does make it look easy and fun, man, there's some good defenders out there. I don't know if you're seeing, man, holding the block in the NFL isn't the easiest thing to do, although George Kittle does make it look easy and fun, man.

Starting point is 01:19:31 Yeah, and for me, it was more, I think when I was coming out of college, but everybody thought of me as this like gunslinger through all these interceptions and all these touchdowns. And we had to score a lot in college. And I still, if you look at my college stats, I'm never really through a lot of interceptions,

Starting point is 01:19:45 but they were just like, in the NFL though, they're gonna be interceptions. They're dead. He hasn't done it yet, but they're gonna happen. And so I- Trust them. I had the little spot last year out through a couple of them,

Starting point is 01:19:57 but I've always valued taking care of the football. So I try to get rid of that thing from my MO or whatever critique that people like to say of me But in this game if you're not towing that that line Like you're not you're not playing aggressive enough and so yeah, there's times in games where I know like I get a little wound up I like everybody else. I'll make a cool play where I like scramble around like in the Jags game I scramble around me to cool play and then I try to do it again if the way interception I'm just like I know it's me. It's too much and so I just try to stay on that fine line but not get too aggressive.

Starting point is 01:20:32 Yeah, but you got us put you got to put the foot on the gas in this league. You can't play timid or you know you know try wait for other people to win the game especially as a quarterback man. If you believe in yourself you got to go out there and get that thing. Oh you got to give you got to give guys chances. That's big on me. Give guys chances to make plays. That's why I've never been I've never been a big like completion percentage guy. Like that's never been like the my favorite stat to kind of keep high. You want to you want to obviously have a high completion percentage, but I feel like if you're not kind of pushing the limit and giving guys

Starting point is 01:21:01 chances and then another thing is throwing the ball away and not taking sex, I feel like you're hurting your team and so I've never been a big completion percentage guy. I'm someone that likes to push it and I want it to be high and I want it to be like having success but I want to make sure that our guys are having chances to go out there and make plays. Chances. Love it. Chances, baby. You're pretty good with the stats right now. You're leading the MVP voting. Do you? Yeah, what's your mindset going into a season like obviously a lot of not a lot of changes, but you're losing Tyrick one of the biggest playmakers on the chiefs of the last few years. That's receiving the league man. Yeah, coming into this season, are you focused on MVP type? Are you just more on the success of the team? No, I mean, you don't, I don't think anyone, I mean, focuses on the MVP and stuff like

Starting point is 01:21:51 that. I mean, you shouldn't be if you want to be a great team. I just focus on winning. And I knew, I mean, Luzian Tyreeke is Luzian Tyreeke. I mean, he's, to me, he's the best receiver in the league. I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be big for anybody to lose a guy like that. But even more than, I mean, we brought a lot of great players in. I think I just looked at Coach Reed and I was like, this dude has had success with whoever's on the field,

Starting point is 01:22:12 quarterback, receivers, running backs. And I'm like, so if I just listen to what he has to say, we're gonna have success. And so I just, I did that, man, and I try to take it on myself to kind of, I'll have a bigger responsibility in the offense and You got to get through your reads better. You got to be better at getting it to the right guy and giving guys chance to make plays I mean we had a lot of guys have stepped up man. I mean if you look at our team It seems like every week. It's a different receiver kind of having the big game. It's been so fun to watch man

Starting point is 01:22:40 It's been cool, man, and I'm so happy for those guys man because they kind of got a they got a bad rep coming into the season. I was looking at it and I know Travis was looking at it like man these guys can ball. I don't know what everybody's talking about. And so this is see guys that are going out there and having success. Sky had the big games this last year and I've seen that I mean this last game and I've seen that town all year long. You see guys like Justin Watson who. J. Wobby. saw in the OTAs. I think it's a story that out there and I called Brett Vitch. I'm like, hey, how fast is this white guy we got out here, man? He's over. I can't even throw it far enough. This guy is out running me. And so he's, yeah, I call him Forest Gump. and it's cats out the back.

Starting point is 01:23:25 Have you ever seen forest gum? He is that just watching has that perfect for like this the entire time. Todd Tom hangs out of right. But no, so I call him forest gum. He's making plays for us. It's a pen grad man. The old Ivy's baby every single time he catches it makes a big play. I just see him get up his thigh.

Starting point is 01:23:45 Mass equals four thousand celebration it works every time. No. He was born with club feed he had to teach himself how to run it at a later stage. The worst is you got to see this guy how he throws a football it's the craziest thing I've ever seen. The most robotic like arm. I want to see it in slow motion. I don't know how it comes out of his hand.

Starting point is 01:24:05 It's never a spiral. I don't know how he even thinks you know, you know, you know, Coatread gives everybody a chance to have a throw in this offense. He's like testing the receivers, the tight ends, everybody out. And we were like, Hey, Jay what, man? Like, you want to, can you throw like, he's like, nah, man, nah, nah, nah. And we're like, come on, just give us one. He was just, I was like, what is that? That's what it is. How can you be so athletic?

Starting point is 01:24:28 And that's what you got. But, uh, it's crazy. Jay watched stepping up. It's awesome to see him do his thing. But yeah, we got everybody stepping up, man. And then, and then to answer your question, man, you never think about that MVP stuff. If you do, you're in the wrong sport, man.

Starting point is 01:24:40 All you think about is going out there and winning a winning game, playing for your team. And at the end of the day, want to win that Superbowl. And if that's not your only goal then you then you aren't playing the right sport. Yeah. Love it. What do you think you're still improving? What do you think? I mean I think there's this forever. Yeah I mean I think you have to be improving. I mean everybody knows. The moment you're not getting better, everyone's catching you, right?

Starting point is 01:25:05 Yeah, exactly. And I've got the best improvement I've made as I've become patient, which I had to last year with all the coverages we were getting. I learned how to throw it to the running back. It was hard for me. I would just, every time I'd look down field and I'd just be like, if he just maybe,

Starting point is 01:25:21 if he can just get an extra, that safety might come down a little bit. But I learned how to throw it to the running back and get let those guys make stuff happen in space. And once I did that, it opened everything else back up. And so I wanna continue to improve, man. I wanna continue to get better. I wanna make it easier.

Starting point is 01:25:38 I wanna be where Tom is where he's like, he knows what the play, what covers defense is in by how the nickel is aligned and everything like that and yeah And and like you said man, you know that man if you're not improving You're so you're getting caught by somebody and there's a lot of great quarterbacks in this league man Y'all have one of them and I'm trying to try to just just take a quick step every time they take a step I'm gonna take another one and just try to keep it going You're talking about patience man. You're you're a at like, uh, how fast your mind is actually moving,

Starting point is 01:26:09 dude. I feel like his mind works at like a fast forward speed compared to everybody else's. And you tell when he's tapped in, like trying to play golf with this dude, he tries to break the record for the fastest round every single time. Dude, I'm talking about he's hitting this just on hell cabrera. No practice swings. Welcome to the ball. Just knows exactly what it is, but you see him on the field and sometimes they shoot to him after a play and he's like kind of thinking and he goes he's always doing this

Starting point is 01:26:37 right. Yeah. Yeah. Mad Max. We shout out the Pat Max. We show he made this kind of where I'm going with this but he's like he's like give me the play. Give me the play. I need a faster. I need right now'm going with this, but he's like, he's like, give me the play. Give me the play. I need a faster. I need right now. Give me a give me a, and he's always got his tongue right here. And he's just, he's not looking at shit, but he's thinking of everything situation.

Starting point is 01:26:56 What's going on? Play call, formation, all this. And it's just that boy is so tapped in, so tapped in that is you already know whenever you see him just That's the old silky p man. That's what I got it. Is that silky p? Yeah, so I think my dad got it from Jordan He got it from Michael Jordan and then he did it and I guess a kid you I mean, I'm watching my dad play professional baseball So I'm trying to do everything he's doing and every picture he be and then I started doing it as like a kid as a habit And now it's just it's every time and now start sterling doing it now dude and the ster started doing that as a kid as a habit and now it just adds every time. And now it's sterling to it now dude and the cock catch sterling doing it.

Starting point is 01:27:29 I'm like it just runs in the family. I love it. This is actually good that we're talking about MJ because we wanted to touch on this too. So Travis has been compared to a lot of receivers. I get compared to pretty much any white fat dude with a beard. I get compared to pretty much any white fat dude with a beard. You've been, you've been compared to basketball players. Goats. Which one of these comparisons blows your mind the most? Steph Curry, Michael Jordan.

Starting point is 01:27:57 Michael Jordan, I feel like I don't even have that competitor that he had, man. After watching the last dance and seeing that, I feel like I try to be that, but that's one of a kind. I mean, to be that competitive at all times, like if I shook his hand, he'd be like, I can shake my hand tighter than you can shake your hand. I mean, that's just the type of guy he is. And my favorite, I mean, you know, I hate talking about myself. Favorite one is the Steph one,

Starting point is 01:28:24 because I feel like Steph brought a different style of basketball to the game. I want to try to bring it to where it's not quarterback isn't that's why I try to do is make it where everybody you can be played in different ways. It's not the traditional style. You still do the traditional style, but you can do it everywhere, every way. And I mean, Jaylin's doing it that way, man. He's he's evolved throwing the ball, but he can still run.

Starting point is 01:28:42 He can he can make the quarterback run. He he can still run. He can he can make the quarterback run So you can make the throws he can do everything and it doesn't have to be played this certain style that we've become accustomed to and so that's what I've tried to do in my position Is how can I play the game in my way so that people behind me can have a chance to come out here and play the same way all right now No, no, no, blazing. Well, you're taking the game from all three you guys have changed the game Speaking of goats you grew up an Aaron fan and you've already had big battles First time just like NBA players get together during the offseason Have you had a chance to work with any either of these guys? I haven't worked with them on like football specific stuff I've gotten to I've seen Aaron a lot with the state farm commercials and everything like that

Starting point is 01:29:24 I've seen Tom a lot just kind of in passing some golf stuff some different things like that. I mean, I learned from as much as they'll give me I'll take it in and learn from my mom. But dude, it's it's it's cool to just take in any information from those guys. And I know I've talked about it and the stories kind of came out there. But I have to be lost at Tom the AFC championship game when he just came up. He grabbed me as I'm walking to the car. I'm obviously upset. He's supposed to be celebrating with his team and he just said, Hey, man, I want to let you know you're doing it the right way. And just him saying that, that just validated everything that I did that year was just like,

Starting point is 01:29:56 all right, all this time that I've been in the building and putting that work in, the goat is literally saying you're doing it the right way. So that little things like that, those little pieces of advice, that's the stuff that I've taken, I try to just run with it. And that's helped me become who I am. Nice man, sometimes all we need is just a little reassurance that we're doing shit the right way, man. You know what I mean? It does just feel that confidence.

Starting point is 01:30:20 Yeah, I mean, I feel like, especially when it comes to my guy like that, you know what I mean? Like somebody that has been doing it right for so I feel like especially when it comes from a guy like that, you know, I mean, like somebody that has been doing it right for so long, like that's a good feeling. What do you credit to, I guess, your, like your ability to learn so quickly, you know, you come in your first year, you dominate the league. Trav has said you're a big film watcher.

Starting point is 01:30:41 Are you, but is that, are you also like, do you have like a photographic memory? Like, how does this work? Are you big note taker? I'm a big note taker. I'm a big, I'm kind of all of it. I'm very superstitious. So whatever I did in my rick year, I do exactly the same now. Like I'm baseball player, superstitious. So I take a ton of notes. I'm really good. Obviously, I watch the film and do that different type of stuff, but I'm really good with once I see I see something. I'm pretty good at knowing what it is when I see it again. Even if it's, I mean, like there's been blitzes I've seen that I hadn't seen since like my second or third year that I've seen like again this year. And I'm like, I know we haven't prepared for it this

Starting point is 01:31:17 week, but I know we need to do this. And I call it my little like cabinet, my filing cabinet. I've seen so many different defenses now that I can kind of pull from there. And I'll say like, when I go to the side, I'm a coach Andy Hick. I mean, he's one great offensive line coach that gives me a lot of tools in my toolbox, as they say. I'm like, hey, I did this because this is what we did versus this team a couple of years ago.

Starting point is 01:31:37 And he's on the same page with me. He understands that he gets it coached up to those guys in the offensive line. And that's kind of my biggest thing is I feel like once I've seen something, I'm good at kind of recognizing it and seeing when I see it again. And so that's been the biggest thing of how it's helped me learn.

Starting point is 01:31:53 And I remember when I, the Blitz thing, how I was talking about the Blitz stuff a little earlier is I played the Patriots in New England my first year. And they were doing like this weird, like we call it like the 40 up front where they have like They don't really have a true nose guard. They kind of have double splits They have linebackers kind of playing D-Lime and some of that stuff and I remember being back there like I have no idea What to do to get these five guys blocked and I and and then ever since then I mean thanks coach Bella check

Starting point is 01:32:20 I ever since then dude if the that's what I'm saying the blitz protection plan isn perfect. And I don't feel perfect going into the game with it. I don't feel prepared. And so that's like the main thing I do is I coach Andy Hagg. We get together with him coach Matei, Corey Matei, with the quarterbacks. We make sure that blitz plan is perfect going into every game. And it's helped me learn a ton. Because once you know the the fronts and the the blitzes, you know the coveragesages and so learning it that way is something that that's helped my game go to a different level and then you got to throw in the the Brad children's man. Oh it's coach chili dude you've got that dude. Chili got me my first year man. Dude he took me so coach chili was like a analyst. Like one of the passing game

Starting point is 01:33:00 yeah passing game analyst coach and I couldn't learn those protections my first year. I'm coming from the big 12 dude. It's like drop eight every play so I'm like Yeah, sort both sides just sort of we're good. That's it and so I get out here and he's like all right I'm gonna take you to the history of this thing dude and he's teaching me like 70 protection and 22 and 23 like man Dual protection the old school way and he's like this is what you do. And the best thing he ever said to me though, he goes, and you know what, the main rule is the most important rule? When you're hot, throw the hot.

Starting point is 01:33:32 Throw the hot. I was like, I was like, all right, well, I know where my hot is. That's the end of the day, that's the main thing. And it's evolved obviously. I mean, everybody's evolved protection wise, but we do a great job here, man. And I know y'all do too. And it's a, when you get those ol' iron that are smart too, it makes your job a lot easier

Starting point is 01:33:50 at the quarterback position. Yeah, for those of you that don't know what the hot is, it's when you know there's a blitz and you're not picked up. So you have to know where your hot route is. The route that is expected to get the ball if you're not picked up correctly. Yes. So at the end of the day, you could say, yeah, that guy's coming, this guy's coming, we're all protected.

Starting point is 01:34:07 But then they get you. You know, yeah, they got me. You know, that's what they're very, they could pay to to, you know, have a good blitz and have a good scheme. So if you just get got, you know, you just got to know where your heart is, man, get that thing out. So we're not taking else. I can't block everybody.

Starting point is 01:34:21 You got to know where your heart's at. And you got to be comfortable with where the point or what the protection call is to be able to get it to the hot of it's there. But sometimes I like playing that game too. You know, it's like, ah, you know, I know that the hot's over there, but if we pick this up,

Starting point is 01:34:35 oh yeah, that's that's gonna be able to go down the field. Well, that's the thing, man. And you see with the, when the team's blitz, man, if you gash them a couple of times, they usually get out of the blitzing pretty quick. So that's something that we try to take pride in is let's pick up these blitzes and throw some deep shots. Because that's when they have one less guy in coverage. You know it. That's right. So you watch a lot of film on the defensive guys.

Starting point is 01:34:56 You watch any other quarterbacks around the league to try and draw inspiration? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've always watched Aaron. I've watched a lot of Aaron because I felt like when I grew up That was the kind of guy I can model my game after a little bit I watched Stafford a lot with the side arms and stuff like that I watched Tom when I was in college a ton because I've needed to get better from within the pocket And so that was a big for me because if you like Tom isn't the fastest guy But as far as mobility inside the pocket dude. It's one. It the, I mean, obviously one of the best of all time.

Starting point is 01:35:25 It's got great pocket presence. And so I watched that. And then now you watch some of these young guys, man. I mean, you watch Joe Burrow, you watch Justin Herbert, you watch Josh Allen, all these young guys. And we play a lot of similar opponents, obviously, in the AFC. So you watch them and see how they're kind of dissecting

Starting point is 01:35:38 and going against some of these similar defenses. And you take from that, man. And like we said, if you're not learning and getting better then you're getting You're stuck with your stuck where you're at and everybody's kind of chasing you and so For me, I have no I do not have too much pride to say that I'm watching all these guys that are younger than me that Then there's the gifts that they have I try to incorporate it that in the my game because if that's the way you get better in this league Yeah, for sure and like do, do you, so do you find, so Travis is well known that he has a rivalry with Cronk. We just talked about other young quarterbacks. Are there any young quarterbacks that you feel like

Starting point is 01:36:16 it means a little bit more like when you're playing against each other or guys that like you either out of respect or whatever competitiveness that, yeah, you wanna win? Yeah, I mean, I think we've kind of grown this rivalry with the bill, so with Josh, I mean, obviously, it's become a little bit of rivalry. He's gotten me a couple of times now, and we've been lucky enough to beat them in the playoffs and stuff like that, but you know they're gonna be there.

Starting point is 01:36:38 I mean, just because of how talented he is and how talented that team is, Herbert, we play him every year, now twice a year, every single game is like the last possession. And you know it's going to be in that. And so that that one. And then obviously now I mean Joe Burrow, man. He's a beat me twice. I haven't beat him at all. So I mean, he's one of the only guys that I think I haven't beat. He came out and he's he's come back. Both games and beat me. So I ton of respect to him and that

Starting point is 01:37:02 team because they fight to the end and they beat us in the AFC championship game man. So that'll be a big game for us when we come up and play them here in a couple weeks. So no high on football, God, man. We're a home or away, guess it? We are away. We are on the back in the nadi back in the nadi on the special turf they got out there. Yeah, hopefully it's I think it's new. I think it's new. Oh. We played on that at college, and it was bad. Are you going to get some skyline? You're going to get to talk about what a burger. Are you a chili guy? Not a chili guy.

Starting point is 01:37:31 I'm not a chili guy. Yeah, I'm not a chili guy. What's good? Skyline is really more of like a meat sauce. Still doesn't sound better. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't see, I'm not even going out if it's like labeled as chili. If I look at it and it looks like that I'm not I mean

Starting point is 01:37:46 I mean I'm not gonna lie. I haven't been to Cincinnati, but from everything Travis told me awesome place ton of pride in their city great fan base but Greatest great size is the only thing I'm snagging if I'm snagging anything since an ad was If it's if it's I Hate to say this man, but if it's if it's coming out the same way it looks the same way it does coming out, yeah, I get weird. I'll just get the noodles that it comes just give me the new just better the noodles up. I'll solve pepper this and we go keep it moving. Pat, I know we're actually getting close on time, man. I want to talk about this next segment of Mount Rushmore's, man.

Starting point is 01:38:29 I've let it be known of my tight-end Mount Rushmore. Jason's talked about his and what's your, we also had Jalen chime in on what his quarterback Mount Rushmore would look like. What does that look like in the eyes of Pat my homes man put me on a spot here no I mean obviously Tom Tom's on there yeah Joe Montaña Montaña Montaña Montaña's on there he's on there for Super Bowl so I put him on there so that's Joe and his son both of us we owe you guys a beer pong game man Travis dude I mean are you kidding me you know what we'll finish let me finish my mouth rush more we get to that story then You got it though Peyton Peyton Manning probably be on there sure for me

Starting point is 01:39:13 And then it's to me right now it's probably between Dan Marino and John L. Way and I don't know who that fourth one is I won't give it to L. Way just because he has the rings But Marino if you look at the stats dude his first season 48 touchdowns in that era back in the 70s quarterback season has to have to be in history I don't care what anyone says crazy that that thing is one of the most special seasons and then like every single time that I've been putting up and breaking these records like Dan marino had a hundred and 70 touchdowns in three years I'm like what how are you? I thought they ran the ball back then.

Starting point is 01:39:46 So I mean, just because the rings, but I mean, Dan Marino's just right there if he's on the edge of it, if not on there. Yeah, it's Ventura. Oh, to finish our story, man, we went to the Masters. Yeah. Went to the Masters, dude, and I like, we see Joe Montaña, who's like a hero of everybody.

Starting point is 01:40:02 And so you go see him. Of course. You see him, you're like, hey, he's with us. We're watching. He's golden. Yeah, we're in red. We're in red. We're in red. Random house type party thing.

Starting point is 01:40:12 Random house party thing. And they have like Jason Aldin playing music. I mean, we're just having a good time drinking some beers, some cold, or sweet. And bottle is such a cool dude too. Like Joe, one of the coolest guys. Oh, man, just mountain blue too, yeah, always. And then his sons are there. And we're going over to another little house.

Starting point is 01:40:30 This traffic. I'm sure you know, and so we were like his Joe's going home. We're like, we've been talking to a son. You know, I want to come on. Come on with us. Yeah, before this is. Let's kick it, man. We'll kick it for a little bit.

Starting point is 01:40:39 So we go over there and of course a beer pong table gets set up and me and Travis are notoriously known for being great beer pong partners And so like I get over there and Travis has been at the masters all days and a lot of walking for Travis And so I'm over here like battling with these kids and Travis is about shotting every single shot He's like Over 13 oh 13 I did it it's a go open their eyes are everywhere. 0 for 13. There's no pity. 0 for 13. I did it. It is single. And then I hear.

Starting point is 01:41:08 I'm going to play aggressive Pat. I got to play aggressive. Take shots on the field. And then I hear through the great vine that these guys are bragging about how they beat us. And this guy Travis won't lock in. He won't lock in. And he won't lock in.

Starting point is 01:41:18 Just take a job, man. I want to figure bounce this thing in. Get two foot one special. Did you get that back? Pat, did you guys used to play like if you, so when you take a cup off, if you don't drink it right away, you're just holding in your hand. If you hit that cup in the hand, it's game over.

Starting point is 01:41:32 It's over. Done. I was, this is how you know where brothers, I would just stand there and try and hit that cup. Even if they saw coming, I'm like, I don't care that you know, it's coming. I'm going to slam dunk this in your cup. Now you know where I get my shit from. I actually think this guy's been thrown in my cup the entire friggin life dude

Starting point is 01:41:48 Travis was the worst part about it was Travis made the first bounce and after that There it was just every no look It's gotta be surprised after the first one is you gotta catch him off me while there's there's kind of the tables kind of Wets they're just sliding they're not even getting high enough to even have a chance the best the first one is you got to catch him off me while there's there's kind of the tables kind of wet So they're just sliding. They're not even getting high enough to even have a chance the best the best one Is that Pamela Anderson? Everyone's looking right? Everywhere Oh, I'm a scat of he's got to keep coming with uh All right now

Starting point is 01:42:22 I've had one to shit. Yeah nice. That's all I had for the Mount Rushmore. Jason, you want to settle the score? Yeah. I thought they wanted to do quarterback plus receiver Mount Rushmore too. Like, I screwed that up. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to do the do the do the do the Mount Rushmore? I mean, Joe, I mean Joe, I mean Joe Montana and Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. You can't say his name right. Let's Joe Montana. Waterboard. Hey, Jerry Rice speaking of Henry Winkler, man. The Winkster. Yeah, talking about the green notebook. You don't have the notebook I have. Yeah. I just hate him. I hate him and I hit him and I hit him. No, the, yeah, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Dante Colpepper and Randy Moss, you

Starting point is 01:43:14 will take that over Tom and Randy Moss. I mean, both of them are close, dude. I mean, Tom and Randy, they had, I would say Tom and Randy, just because they, that was the year they went undefeated,ated dude and it was like a million touchdown. Dominic. Who else is on that Mount Rush more? I would say Troy Ackman and Michael Irving, another sneaky one, that's Cowboys fan growing up here. So Jason was, I had their actual figures.

Starting point is 01:43:42 I had their actual figures. And then I don't, the fourth one, I mean, there's so many great ones. I don't even want to even close it because I want to just leave everybody else on the table. So those three were by the main ones. The fourth one is up for debate for everybody. That's fair enough. All right, let's get to a little, we're going to settle the score on some things that we've had arguments on on the show. And since your quarterback, it gives us a quick way to answer these questions Game day fit philosophy dress up or dress down. I already know the answer to this

Starting point is 01:44:15 I'm gonna be I'm a big dress up guy for away games away games suit and tie Peyton Manning, you know suit and tie. I thought a little a little bit of swag on there But suit and tie and everything like that. Home games, I'm usually a graphic tee and just jeans. Like an easy, comfortable look. Brydie tries to get me to go outside the box, kind of like what Travis is wearing, but I don't know if I have enough swag for that.

Starting point is 01:44:37 So like when Travis wears some stuff sometimes, I'm like, I don't know if I even like it, but it's gotta be swaggy, because Travis is wearing it. When I wear it, it's just, I'm just gonna get roasted. So why am I gonna wear it? So I even like it, but it's gotta be swaggy because Travis is wearing it. When I wear it, it's just going to, I'm just going to get roasted. So why am I going to wear it? So I'm trying to just keep it. I'm not getting smogged. That's the best thing, man.

Starting point is 01:44:52 Post a picture and just read the comments, man. He looked like a clown dog. Nah, I get it, man. I get it. I was going for a clown, actually. Clowns aren't in. Better believe it. What position talks the most trash? Um, I would say DB, DB definitely just the whole whole group man. It's just they always are saying something, you know, and so I mean, you have to have some confidence to play

Starting point is 01:45:24 that position. So I'm the big guy where I run, I mean, you have to have some confidence to play that position. So I'm the big guy where I run, I try to never take a hit, so I always go down and they're like, man, if you'd have ran at me, you know what I would have done. I'm like, dude, you're not trying to hit anybody. Dude, you played DB. Are you kidding me? But I try to stay, because you know, they're going to the end zone. They're taking the picture, everything like that.

Starting point is 01:45:44 So you try to stay away from giving them any chance to talk trash. You know, we're right there with you. D-line DB. That's the ultimate. But the only thing about the, oh, Travis. No, I'm not. The only thing about D-line is I'm a big compliment guy.

Starting point is 01:45:57 I'm a big throw the ball. They get close to me. Hey, great rush, dude. Great. I'm not trying to make these guys mad. Are you kidding me? Like, why would I want them to hit me harder? I'm just a great rush. Don't poke the bear. Yeah, exactly. Let them just play their position. They're competing. They're having a great time.

Starting point is 01:46:12 Our dog, Trace Smith is poking the bear. Yeah, dude, exactly. Bro, that was crazy. That was awesome. Trace Smith, a high life video against Tennessee. Oh, yeah, man. You know, man, he heard the trash talk. And so he's like that all the time. Interstate 65. If they, if you poke that barrier, he's one of those quiet guys that at the moment, anything is said, he's gonna go nuts. And so he's, it's, it's great to have those guys on the team, man. And I don't have to be that guy. I just let them, I mean, Travis, I'm like,

Starting point is 01:46:40 grabbing him by his horse collar the whole time. I'm like, hey, bring it back in, man. I mean, I was the kid at the amusement park that was on the leash. So that's me. Come on, get out the leash. Get Travis. True story, huh? Yeah, go on. Oh, for sure.

Starting point is 01:46:55 Heel. Heel. Like our first. Used to give me like a candy like caffeine rush, like a sugar rush and I would just be everywhere just like dragging my parents across the amusement park. I remember one of the first times we went like I wasn't on the leash my mom was like All right, this is this is if we ever anybody gets lost we come right here It was like one like area and all I heard of my mind was like I'm about to get lost and just meet right back here at the end of the day. It was like we know where we're going. I've got my right back here.

Starting point is 01:47:33 See y'all later. Well, we talked about Travis a little bit earlier. Do you think Travis could play could have played quarterback? No. could have played quarterback. No, no. That's the only one. No, I mean, I think he has the physical talent to play quarterback in NFL, but he's like he says, there's those times where he kind of blacks out. They're patients, man. He if you've ever played Travis and Ping Pong, you know why he can't play quarterback. Travis is a good ping pong player, but isn't or beer pong. Yeah, yeah, he's two. He's two aggressive, man. And ping pong. I'm a big returner. And I'll just

Starting point is 01:48:09 return it. I know he's going to try to spike it. And he's going to hit one out of eight. I mean, he's going to have it. But I'm going to score seven points. Those other those ones he missed. So I just he's too aggressive. Just let him just go out there and get his aggression out, trying to run dudes over. I get caught in the fun of the game. I get caught in the fun of the game. Can't do much. I get caught flanking. You can't flank as a quarterback.

Starting point is 01:48:28 He cannot fall. The old Ali approach and ping pong just let him punch himself out. That's exactly. I can't help myself, man. I see that thing sitting in prime spot. I'm just like, other than quarterback, what do you think's the hardest position to play in the field? DB, DB 100% man especially with the rules how they changed those guys are putting tough positions

Starting point is 01:48:54 man and so they have to play defense and they have to not know where the receivers going but they they there's a chance they get picked by someone else but they have to they have to not put their hands on the guy and they they have to hold their ground but not to be hold their ground too much because they might get a pass interference So and they have to have the quickest memory man if they make one mistake It's like the next play they have to try to make something happen. So definitely That DB position is definitely a tough one. I think all three of us agree on that one. Yeah Would you sign a baby? I will not sign a baby. Would you let somebody sign a baby?

Starting point is 01:49:26 You won't sign a baby? Would you let somebody put Sharpie on the spot? No, that's what I'm saying. I will not sign a baby's clothes. I will, the clothes, yes. I will sign the clothes, but not for him. No, I don't know for him. No Ricky Bobby forehead sign coming out of me.

Starting point is 01:49:42 I'm very hesitant to sign anybody's actual body, but I did sign someone's they had a champ stamp and I signed their champ stamp and I got it tatted on top of their champ stamp. So, champ stamp, picture me right there. Yeah, she's kingdom maybe. And there's an your autograph is forever tattooed on this man's lower back yet. Yeah. I do the kingdoms real baby. The kingdom's real man. It's what we do out here. We we're all in.

Starting point is 01:50:13 We're invested. We're invested man. One last thing man, we we do this every single week. And this is the new heights stamp of the week where we we show praise to anybody taking their game to new heights. My new heights stamp of the week where we show praise to anybody taking their game to new heights. My new heights stamp of the week, I'm going to keep it close to home. I'm going to throw it to sky more, baby.

Starting point is 01:50:30 Talked about it a little earlier. Someone that I mean had some early struggles as far as dropped a punt. I mean, everyone does it. You learn from your mistakes. You go out there. Obviously, we're down some receivers this week. He gets thrown into action makes big catches that kind of change the tide of the game. Helps us get down there to win the game

Starting point is 01:50:50 and on the two minute drive. And someone that I have so much belief in man so much trust in and I'm glad to see that he can make a plays on a big night like Sunday night football man. So that's that's my new height stamp of the week. All right now that's the second Chief's wide receiver taking his game to new heights man of the week. All right, now that's the second chief's wide receiver taking his game to new heights, man. We got Jay White, the first game, Jay's an Ed Justin Watson, or both the Watson's. Both the Jay Watts on the chief's head

Starting point is 01:51:14 of huge game that first week. So well, very nice. May I set out to Scott, we're taking his game to new heights. Ready to go, Scott? Well, I think I speak for both Travis and I. This is awesome, man. Thank you so much for coming on that. You're the best.

Starting point is 01:51:28 I appreciate you, brother. Man, I think we're going to need to do a sequel. Kind of like that Andy Reed sequel. You got coming up with State Farm. Maybe we can agree if we're both playing each other in a Super Bowl. Me, you, Travis, Jalen, maybe a. Those do it, man. Let's do it, man. Let's talk it into existence talking into existence man

Starting point is 01:51:48 You will hopefully get the superbowry run and it shall be me You're the best brother. I appreciate you taking the time man always man. Appreciate y'all man. This is awesome Love what you are doing. Let's keep this thing going baby. Let's keep it going man. Thank you so much, Pat Well, that about wraps up our very special guest huddle edition of new heights. Thank you for pat for stopping by We'll be back next Wednesday watching subscribe on YouTube to the new heights channel and listen to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts Once again new heights is a juke's original presented by wavesports and entertainment Follow the show on all social media platforms at New Heights show. We can't leave without thinking the production crew. Thank you guys for everything you guys are doing.

Starting point is 01:52:30 You guys are absolutely best. And Patty, you're the clotheser, baby. Amy, last words. Uh, last words, man. Appreciate y'all. Uh, New Heights, Hooligans. Uh, appreciate y'all as well. Shout out to the Hooligans.

Starting point is 01:52:42 It might be official now. It's, all right. It might be official. Thank It's all right, it has to be. It might be official. Thank you. Yeah.

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