New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Paul Rudd on Why Jack Black is The Best, Worst Auditions, Chiefs Fandom & Naming Your Nuts | EP 171

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

92%ers, welcome to another guest episode of New Heights! Today we are joined by actor, Chiefs Fan, and the first guest we ever had on the show, Paul Rudd! Paul and the guys discuss everything from why Jack Black is the absolute best, our new favorite phrase ‘Buffalo Sober,’ Kelce home movies, if Paul knows ball, why he still has joy for the Chiefs, his career as a Bar Mitzvah DJ, the little he knows about Avengers Doomsday, naming your nuts after your friends, his worst audition of all time, and more!Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowYou can also listen to new episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ...Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwTake holiday gift giving to new heights at https://homage.com/newheights. Send something to the New Heights Mailbox. Don’t be weird though. C/O New Heights Productions135 E OLIVE AVE, BURBANK, CA 91502Support the show: AMERICAN EXPRESS: The refreshed Platinum card is here. Learn more at https://americanexpress.com/withplatinum. Terms apply.REESE’S TREES: Grab REESE’S TREES today, found wherever candy is sold. GILLETTE: Visit https://Gillette.com/NFL for more information!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

One of your first jobs was as a bar mitzvah DJ. Yeah. What was on the playlist? I mean, you got shout from Animal House. Classic. Ooh. There was also, Here we come now singing, monie, monie.

And then all the kids, they say, Get late, get. All the grandparents go, hmm? What? What? Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A Wondry show. And we are your host.

I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. University of Cincinnati grads. Shout out to all the Bearcats out there. And let's go Bearcats basketball. Come on, baby. Come on baby. Let's go, man.

Let's take the Big 12 by storm, baby, by storm. Subscribe on YouTube, OneDry Plus, wherever you get your podcast. And follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S for clips throughout the week. just to catch up on all the fun shit me and Jason have been doing. Jason wants to tell the people what we have coming up this episode. 92% is we got a great episode coming up. We got a great guest episode. That's right.

Joining us today is the first guest we ever had on the show. Yes, sir. Paul Rudd is here. Yay! Bye, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. We're going to talk about everything from his new movie and Akana coming out, working with the one and only Jack Black. We're also going to find out if he knows Ball and so much.

more. Oh. So stick around. Check it out. All right now. Here we go. In three, two,

one. All right. Our guest today is an actor, producer, screenwriter from the University of Kansas. You know him from Knocktop. This is 40.

I love you, man. Anchorman Parkson, drag White Hot American Summer and his upcoming movie Anaconda. Yeah, he's the guy who made

Ant Man cool, a die-hard cheese fan and the 2021 sexiest man alive. and the first ever guest on New Heights. That's right. Please welcome back 92%ers, Mr. Let's go.

Oh, my gosh. What? Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. It's good to be back with you guys. Welcome back, my brother. Thank you for having me. It's good to see you as it.

It's always good to see you guys. Is that true first? Yeah. You wish me a happy birthday, man. Travis had a birthday. Oh, I remember that. And you surprised guest. You know what I remember?

The most from that, it was your birthday. trap and we were laughing and then we started talking about our dads and we just wound up crying it's exactly what happened it's like happy birthday and we're all bawling our our heads off that's good that's the best man I felt like that's not why you wanted me on it is it is exactly what I needed I needed to get reminded that I have an amazing dad on my birthday and I had to thank him for that so this is great man well I appreciate you coming back on you're uh you're obviously in the middle of promoting anaconda dude yeah um The last thing, I kind of remember talking to you a little bit over the summer about this at the Big Slick, dude.

Yeah, baby. And you were, you were mentioning it. And I was like all giddy in the seat, like getting ready. Like, dude, you guys are really doing this? Yeah. This is so fucking cool, man. You and Jack Black, everyone's always fucking love the duo of seeing you guys just interact here and there. And now they get to see it on the big screen, baby.

He's the best. He's the best. He's one of one, Jack Black. Dude. Unbelievable. Multi-talented. multiple very musical talent yeah he doesn't he's like a he's like a comedy tsunami he's a he's a tornado of talent there we go the alliteration god he is he's like he's like that's half manian devil

i got to know who had this idea where did this come from the guy who wrote this script he's got him kevin etton and okay he wrote it with another guy he's kind of his partner as a guy named Tom Gormacken. They had done another movie previous to this called The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, which I would highly recommend this movie. Nicholas Cage is in it. Yes. Playing himself. And Pedro Pascal is in it playing a guy who's just really into Nicholas Cage. And it's hilarious. And it's this weird meta comedy. It's just so smart and original and so i loved that movie i saw it like four times and when uh this script showed up it was from these guys i'm like oh my god they made that amazing movie and i started reading and started

laughing just because it's similar in that people think it's a remake of anaconda but it's really not it's it's these these idiots that try and remake anaconda and uh and so it's kind of you know The indie way. Yeah, and then while we're trying to make this, you know, we're not filmmakers. We were just kids that used to make movies together because it was fun. And then we're now, you know, all old and our lives are not, they haven't worked out the way we expected them to. So we kind of throw caution to the wind and try and recapture the magic and pursue our dream of finally making a movie. We're going to reboot, reimagined our favorite movie, Anaconda, and then we go down and then we start getting hunted by a real Anaconda.

It's, it's epic. It's so dumb. It's epic, dude. I fucking loved every second of a man. Absolutely. Thanks, man. I got a dude. So you mentioned a bunch of friends that used to make movies as kids.

Yeah. When you were a kid in high school and middle school, like, was there ever like a camcorder, like a house like family camcorder that you used to like do stuff like this in the backyard? Absolutely. This is like this was, that was my favorite thing to do. I had the camera, you know, I mean, I'm a fossil. So I had the, I had the cam corner that, uh, you put the videotape in the side of it and then close it. And then I would just, you know, hit the button to record.

I would self edit through the camera, hi-takes stuff. Oh, wow. I was going to say it. This is I get it. Stop start. Stop start. And so, um, I would, yeah, we made, I made movies. with buddies mine. I did it

all through college and I thought they were so funny and then I watch them back and it's like, these are terrible. These are unbelievable. It was the experience though, man. You get your feet wet. Do you remember any of the names of the movies?

One of the things that I used to do with a buddy of mine named Guy Garvin and we did a series of, they were Hay Garvin. They were the Hay Garvin. And it started where it was like, hey, Garvin, toss me a beer, would you? And he would just always say, all right. And he'd be in another room somewhere.

And then he would throw a beer and through these cuts, it would fly around corners. And it was, you know, and then we did about 10 of them. And they just got more and more elaborate outside, inside, you know. This is gold. This is gold. I asked that because Jason did the exact same thing. I knew you were going here. I knew you know I'm going here.

Jason had a, and Jason, you can go ahead and tell him the, uh, the gist of it. But I just remembered the name of it being ribs of beef. That was one of the movies we made. I was in a satire class in high school and we like reimagined the Rumpel Stiltskin movie, her story as a movie about a king that just wanted KFC chicken. And somehow ribs of beef would spin something in a fried chicken. It was so stupid. Looking back, I was like, what are we?

doing but i used i loved we were the next wave of it i i would go on i movie i made travis's highlight films i would make like highlight films for the team oh really i love mess oh yeah we we love messing around with all that stuff it was so fun so watching this film like the squatch portion was like so just like oh my gosh this is hitting home right now yeah it it is a thing i think uh a lot of a lot of kids do it certainly did kind of growing up and And that's, you know, I're definitely related to that part of the story. You know, when you're that age and you're talking to your friends, like, we could do this. Yeah.

We can do this. You see us on the screen? People would freak out if they saw how good these videos are that we're making. I'm really glad that they're not on YouTube because I'm going back at now. It's like these are on watching. That was the fun of it, though, because Jason's, Jason's the same way. His was on the old school, like, family camcorder or, like, the school camcorder that he used. So this is, like, ancient artifact.

Like, you, it's in somebody's parent's storage that they just pop out every, like, few, like, decades. And it's just like... Unless your dad records Law & Order over top of it. Which, legitimately, we... A family, a family video. In the middle of it just cuts to the Law & Order intro in the middle of us. Like that. Are you...

Do, do, do, do. So good, man. Well, my wife was pregnant with our son, Jack, who you guys know. Yeah, my God. Julie Watch watches so much Law & Order. Like, it's on a loop all day, all the time. And then when Jack was a baby, when Law and Order would come on, I mean, he couldn't even walk.

He's like on the couch kind of half sleeping. When the, he was just pop up and he was so in. He was so used to kind of when he was inside hearing that theme, it was like a dog whistle for him. So good. It is a catchy tune, man. It is. You and Jack Black star in this thing, in terms of like how it came together for your guys'

role, did you guys come together on this? Did you take it to him? Did he take it to you? Did the writers already have this kind of like mapped out that they weren't? wanted you guys to take this roll on together or what? I got sent this script and I read it and thought it was really smart and funny and I hadn't really seen anything quite like it. But it was kind of still a work in progress.

So I started kind of trying to work with them and start to develop it a little bit more with them. They were writing it. I didn't write any of it. But we had talked about it for months and months. And I was a real gung-ho to do it. and um something else had come up and it wasn't really set up and then i got this message that oh jack black read it and he wants to do it and i i've worked with jack a couple of times but never like

this and we've done little bits you know in things in the past and i really i mean i love jack he's the greatest as we all know and um so i thought oh yeah i'm going to call him because if he's doing it i really like this is it would be so much fun and so we were talking on the phone and we're kind of yeah all right you're going to do it yes let's do it and we talked for like a good 15 minutes and and then he and he goes oh yeah and then when you do this and this and I'm doing this and I realize as he say I'm like wait a minute which part were you thinking thinking I was playing the director, Doug, which is, he goes, I was going to play Doug. I saw you as Griff.

I said, oh, I was imagining. I was Doug and you were Griff. I saw you as Griff. He's like, oh, I was, uh, and then I was like, well, I'll just play Griff. And then, literally how it happened. We just like, all right, I'll just play that part. So we made this decision, never consulting the director. Yeah.

Not the right thing to do. But, but that's how, that's how it happened. And I think that we were both. really excited at the idea of uh working together because you know we've talked about it for a long time and i'm the number one jack black fan so so fucking cool i always thought jason had a little jack black in him yeah you know i've i've been a fan of jack for a long time yeah no you guys are kind of cut from the same cloth i think you have you have that i wish i had an ounce of that guy's talent creativity no you do you do too Travis there's like kind of a there's a there's an alpha

quality but there's just like a good there's like a good time charlie thing built in kind of hardwired in in you guys and um but jack is on a whole other level like when another stratosphere i remember seeing him he his first movie was this movie called bob roberts okay this is in the 90s and i went to go see it uh is a tim robbins movie and he was just it was his first thing he was like a small part but i remember vividly i'm like who is that guy because he's so psycho and funny and and he just played a guy who was just really into the politician Bob Roberts and and God a few weeks after I saw it I had an audition and I went to this audition there was like one other guy in the waiting room waiting to audition and it was him and um I was like oh I got

completely starstruck and like hey man um I just saw Bob Roberts you're the guy from Bob Roberts right He's like, yep. And I said, you, you were so funny in that, oh, my God. And meanwhile, and I got to, we're auditioning for the same part. There's no way I'm getting close to this thing. It's going to this talent machine. Neither one of us got the part. But that was the first time that I met him.

Yeah. And that was probably, God, that was 30 years ago, yeah. He doesn't feel like he's changed either. He feels like he's the same guy, which is, like, impressive to, like, maintain that level of energy throughout your entire career. It's really wild. I mean, we, you know, to be with him and you're just kind of like out in public, when people see him, they freak out. You know, it's like, it's like meeting a beetle or something.

They're just to see Jack Black out in the wild. And everyone that kind of goes to over to him and talks to him, he gives them a Jack Black experience. He's just, he just, he is, he's just pure goodness and energy. And, yeah, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I love the guy. And it seems effortless, man. It just, it oozes out of him, man.

It's so smooth. Yeah. And, you know, I'm sure it's like he's got insecurities or fears or self-conscious about what you or whatever, but he just, you would never know if he does. He just doesn't show it. He's just kind of, he really is about laughs in a good time and and rocking and rocking hard because he's, if he wasn't an act, he's a rock, he is a rock star. laughs a good time in rocking is what this movie does and they also gave us one of our new

terms i had never heard uh buffalo sober is that a real is that did you guys invent that yeah we're set we live in buffalo um and steves on uh plays a guy who's maybe maybe had wrestled with some demons has had some you know it's a good way to put it he's decided to really he does he's decided to really clean up his act finally and uh so i ask are you are you so And he says, yes, but he's Buffalo Sober, which means just beer and wine and maybe a few, a few of the liquors. Lighter. Light liquor.

The real light. Not all of them. Light liquors. I kind of want to go Buffalo Sober. I'm kind of in the Buffalo Sober. This sounds great. We were driving the director at Iras crazy because every time we would do that seat, he goes, oh, Buffalo sober.

And we just keep going, Buffalo Sober in the heart of Mamanica. that's great what would the equivalent to uh to kansas city sober be what would that be uh kansas city sober uh just boulevard uh nice just boulevard and rigar and rigger and just boulevard that's right only local bruise only logan you can only have riger when you're eating barbecue that's right there you go jason what do you got philly sober oh like there is such a thing The citywide special, I think, is a shot at Jim Beam and a PBR, a canned PBR. Delicious. You should be able to get that for like a dollar or something like that.

Maybe it was two bucks. I don't know if that's still out there, but that was the citywide special for a long time. So if you're looking to get out of a hole in Philly. That's true. There you go. Or go into a hole. Head over to Pat's. Patricinos, Angelo's.

There's gyms. There's a Tony is in there, too. There's a Tony Luke's, I think it's called. Tony Luke's, yeah. I mean, pretty much any Italian name and put cheese steak after it. And there's probably a cheese steak in Philadelphia. Yeah. We did prep some questions for Jack.

Do you mind answering for him as him? Sure. Yeah. All right. What was it like to work with Paul? He sucks. Perfect. He's a real diva, pain in the ass.

Always checking his hair, making sure he has the most lines. I hated him. he actually wanted to play Doug did you tell you that yeah i tried to steal my part so uh jack you went to high school with Maya Rudolph what was uh what was that like growing up with Maya it was uh it was it was incredible she was she was all over me and it was a little hard she was always funny i always really liked her I would always, I think it was that she would always hear me singing Minnie Ripperton songs. That's her mom.

And because I'm such a great singer, I was always in key and I'd hit that high sea. And I don't know, it triggered something in her. And so she was just always hanging around. It got awkward all through our 20s, but we're good now. We're cool. Like your parents, Judith and Thomas, were actual rocket scientists. How did they react when you told them you wanted to be an actor? They knew that I wasn't going to really be able to do much of anything else.

They were just happy to kind of get me out of the house and focused on something. Really all I wanted to do was play video games and listen to Led Zeppelin and ACDC in my room. So when I said, I wanted to do something, honestly, it's like I could have said, I wanted to be, you know, a tax collector. I wanted to be a dog walker. I want to be the day just say, yeah, great. We support you. We support you. Get out.

Get out of the house. We're rocket scientists, for God's sake. Obviously, these kinds of brains are not genetic. That was fucking perfect. Golly. The funniest quote for my dad when I got drafted was that, uh, both my kids have a job. I've done my part.

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parties? I mean, who doesn't like chocolate stains all over? Their ugly sweater. I do. Skipping the ugly sweater party to watch football in your sweats instead? I mean, that's a no-brainer. Of course. I mean, you throw on that ugly sweater anyways. Yeah. So celebrate the season with peanut butter perfection and be sure to grab Reese's trees today jason why don't you tell them where you get them from what's found wherever candy is sold literally you can find it everywhere i think i called you jason jason jason all right jillette thank you to our partner jillette all right now jason you've been retired for a full year uh let's talk pregame rituals do you miss them still have them i kind of have one i guess for

Monday night countdown like I kind of I go do the production meeting then I kind of iron out what's happening in the rundown then I go to the makeup lady then I go to the hair and then I go on set I was just curious to see if you were putting that same game day energy into your new broadcasting routine that's all well first and foremost it includes making sure that this beard is looking real nice which is finally starting to show some of my grades again after dying it I'm getting those natural colors back. Thank you. Thanks so much.

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Get it while you can at jolette.com slash NFL. Gillette, the best a fan can get. All right. Now, next segment, we're going to do a little, does Paul no ball, baby? Does Paul no ball? Our staff plays a game which, a lot of their time is called NFL Perry Pickham. You'll be given teams at random and have to select one player from the team

to add to a fantasy lineup. All right. So you get points for their best fantasy season and the goal is to get the most points possible. Make sense? No, I wasn't paying attention, but I'll figure it out. Basically, you just want to pick the best fantasy lineup. Yeah, I got you got you. Nice.

So you get quarterback, running back, wide receipts. two wide receivers, a tight end, and two flexes. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You can pick anybody from their roster. Anybody. Okay. And then so, like, if I were- Oh, no, no, no.

No, no, you just pick the team? I don't even know how this goes. No, no, you're going to pick a player. A quarterback throughout history from the Buccaneers. Correct. And so if I'm taking Tom Brady, the Patriots stats don't count. It has to be when he was with the Buccaneers. I think he might have had his best season in Tampa Bay, though.

That's true. really and then it's like that's the name of the game you got to fight does ball no ball you know Doug Williams Doug Williams I don't know if any of those stats were compiled for fantasy back in that day I'll go with um you can also go running back receiver yeah you can have you go quarterback you don't have to go whatever oh like if there's a better oh I got you oh it's not the whole team oh I see I got you only offensive players though so you can't take that great defense um they won the sure bowl yeah oh man i'll go uh i'll go uh i'll go uh mike evans for there we go love it love it great big all nose ball new york football giants new york football giants um i'll go

giants uh oh there's no defense in there is there no okay um I know Travis would go. Who, Jeremy Shockey? I love the Shockey, man. Shockey was my guy. I knew you were going Shockey. You might want to take a flex. Got OBJ in there.

Of course. OBJ. I like OBJ. I'm going to go OBJ in my flex. Oh, no, Beckham Jr., baby. Early and primal. You need that much colds. Oh, this is where it's.

I'm going to go, I'm going to go, um, oh, man. what to do i mean here's where i'm way i'm here's my i'm weighing between Peyton manning and marvin harrison yeah it's tough Peyton did set the record i'm gonna payton's get when he was in denver take the quarterback when you can get him you don't want to be stuck all the sudden you yeah that's where you go Peyton manning the sheriff the sheriff Seattle seahawks uh i'll go Sean Alexander running back.

Ooh, great pick. Yes, Paul knows ball. Cardinals. I'm going to go Larry Fitzgerald. Yes. Yes. The hardened pride of the Big East. Pittsburgh.

Denver Broncos. Denver Broncos. I will go Terrell Davis in that last flex spot. Ooh, TD. We're coming down to tight end. All right. Wouldn't it be all too. Coincidental, the Kansas City Chief showed up.

Oh, I hope so. Right. Because I got two great picks for that. Oh, there we go. You can go multiple directions of that. He's not. How is Terrell Davis not an option? Oh, it doesn't go back to.

They got a bunch of running backs there. You could go. Clinton Portis. Portis did have some really. Peyton Hillis. Oh, you could go tight in here. Payton Ellis had his big year in Cleveland. He did.

He did. Made the Madden cover. You got Shannon Sharp in there, too. Shannon Sharp. You can always go Unk. Who? Unk, Shannon Sharp. Yeah, I call him Unk.

Like my uncle. Oh, right, right, of course. I go Clinton Portis. Clinton Portis. That's a solid. That's a solid. Very good pick. Oh, Billy for tight end, baby.

I mean, I think... There's only three choices. We got Chad Lewis? We got out of there, Brent Selig, Selsie. All these guys on teams, baby. Exactly. Oh, man. Earths and got it.

Those are good choices. Ertsy, baby. I'm going to hurts. That's the right statistical choice. He still has the record for all-time catches is a tight end. This is a great team. Dude, this is a solid fan. What is, I don't even know what we're looking at.

What is that a good score? Yeah. Oh, nose ball. What was the score? What was the score? 2,269.9. Oh, nose ball. Oh, nose ball.

You know what it is? Here's the thing. The flex, those are the ones that probably lowered me a little bit. Look at how much Portis and O'Dell got you. That's a crazy amount. Easter. Yeah. Like, they were more than Mike Evans was, which is crazy to think about it.

It's crazy to think about like that. So it's only off of their best season. That's what it looks like. It goes off of one season. I was thinking about when also, you know, Doug Martin had a really great season at running back for in the, for the bucks. Yeah.

All right. Russ and peace. He had one for sure. Yeah. 100%. He was a fucking running through shit. I would have gone freaking, uh, oh my gosh, Mike Allstadt.

That was my freaking, I love for. Four, baby. He's a bowling ball. Just a, yeah, might not, might not add the fantasy points, but he's not going to give me many points. the game but yeah it'll be good what are these for intimidation well paul does indeed no ball he does well done baby thanks guys and uh now we get it to our last segment before we get you out here it's called we gotta ask brother and it's uh questions that we feel like we have to ask you and

you can just either answer them or tell us to fuck off all right as a brother and a chiefs fan i love you i'm sorry but how are you feeling as a chief fan right now ah i'm thinking about you brother I know. You shot me the text. I appreciate you, man. I am so happy to be a chiefs fan. The joy and the memories and everything that the chiefs have given me with my family, with my kid. It's been an embarrassment of riches.

And it's just right now. It's like, you know what? This wasn't the year. But that's okay. I know it's tough. I'm excited for whoever does it, for their fan base. They get to share the same kind of things that I got to share with my, on the for all three of those victories um yeah and even the losses you know it's it's the

it's the best so i'm i'm thinking about patrick i'm wishing him a speedy recovery um and everything for the club but i i'm okay and i'm excited you know what i'm excited for uh some of the players to get maybe a little bit of a summer vacation i mean my god it's like you've you've played an extra season of football compared to everyone else and so i'm like oh good you get a break and a chance to kind of rest up and so yeah i'm not uh too too upset i appreciate you having that positive mindset the uh the chief's kingdom baby we uh we love you and we're we're always working our tail off for you obviously this year man all those close one point or one score games and stuff like that just didn't end our way man but uh we're we're still rocking and rolling man it's a

I mean, it's a great team. And, you know, you guys, it's, look, it's, it's, it's tough. It's a tough thing to sustain. And sometimes something goes your way. Sometimes you score a touchdown and they call a phantom face masks. Crazy. Crazy. There's lots of things that happen.

And it happens to every team, not just, you know, but it's a game of inches. It's all right, you know. We still got three coming, though, that we're going to have some fun and make sure that we represent everybody that, uh, that shows up every week like you do. and yeah we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna finish this thing off the right way with some integrity baby you're the best one of your first jobs was as a bar mitzvah dj yeah what was on the playlist uh great question i mean you got shout from animal house classic absolutely and then and then there was also uh here we come now singing monie moni and then all the kids there was this is a moment

And then they'd say, get laid, get, fuck. What? It's a little parents go, hmm? What? What did I get here? There was that. There was also, can't touch this. Oh, classic.

And then you got to sprinkle it on top, round it out with a little, I'm too sexy for my shirt. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, right, said Fred. What a bummits for, man. That is a heck of a playlist right there. That would get me going. You're getting, you're getting us going right now.

That playlist will guarantee a mediocre party. Oh, gosh. Get late. Get fucked. It's hilarious. Mom and dad. Mom and mom. Dad and dad.

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Listen to Tis the Grinch holiday podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Dude, you're in the upcoming Adventure Doomsday, which is fucking badass, man. We don't want to get you. I'll tell you everything. I was going to say, we don't want to get you to tell them. But basically, can you tell them? us the plot.

I mean, honestly, I'm not really sure what it is. All right. Welcome to Hollywood, baby. We're all just making it up as we go. Is it true, your character in Anchorman, named one of his testicles after the real life owner of Char Bar in Kansas City? That's absolutely right. No way to keep it home.

Let's go. So my left testicle, not my right one. My left one is named James Westfall, who also happened to be my roommate in college. And also my roommate, yeah. And so my goal was that I would say, you know, name check them. And then he would just go see the movie and say, what? Oh. I just kind of what happened.

The best now is like, yeah, he owns Char Bar as well as, you know, beer kitchen. Like a few restaurants in Kansas City. Awesome ones right there in Westport, man. They're awesome restaurants. Awesome restaurants. And by the way, the burn ends at Char Bar. Ooh. Even though.

I like the wings too. Oh, great. Great. Yeah. You're getting the whole wing. And so it's fun when he still, you know, has to do business with people. And then he introduces his name. He's like, I'm James Westfall.

And he says sometimes there's like a. just a pause and then some have i heard that name um have you have you ever seen anchor man and then he gets to say i have and i'm the um actual ball that's so fucking good that's the most fun part of doing this is um embarrassing your friends by naming your nuts after that's why i would do it true friendship right there Absolutely classic. You own a candy store called Samuel's Sweet Shop. Give us your Mount Rushmore candy from that store.

Ooh, that's a great question. So my favorite candy is a seasonal candy that we have, although they've kind of laid back in the last couple years and haven't made them, but it's a sour Santa. Sour sour Santa. It's like a cherry sour candy. Um, but it's like the perfect, it's a gummy candy, um, but it's, it's like the perfect consistency. Gummy candy can be, you know, there's a wide range of like, you know, it's the right firmness and all that.

And it's got the great, uh, cherry taste, but with not, with a nice after taste. That was my favorite. So I go with the, I go with the sour Santas. We do a thing called cloud hoppers, which is like a peanut butter chocolate pretzel mix, uh, that we put in these bags and it's great those are my two favorites but we also do these like licorice uh laces and we'll do sour laces and um we do a grape one that's really nice and then uh yeah i'd say the laces are are i put those three that's my that's my that's my that's my rush more so are you more of a sour guy or a sweet guy you're still a lot of sour i like i like

fucking everything i have like the tastes of a nine-year-old I like little kid candy and I love chocolate and yeah I like it all were you big Warhead fan growing up I like warheads

I don't think those yeah when it's really really sour and put them on your tongue see how long you can stand it make your eyes water challenge yeah all natural ingredients in Warhead people don't know that

this is a little bit of plutonium hot tamales Mike and Ix sprees. I liked all that garbage bottle caps. That's an old school. Sign me up. Do you have a welcome to Hollywood moment, Paul? Yeah, I have a few. I don't know, something that made you be like, you know, I'm here. I'm in Hollywood. The very first week I got to, I got to California. I live in New York now, but I went to an acting school. I went from KU to this acting school. And the first week guy was there. I went, I was at like some restaurant and I saw an actor named Courtney Gaines,

who was the red-headed guy and children of the corn. Children for the corn. Wow. And he was also in hard bodies. And his big scene in hard bodies was he could flip you off in 41 different languages. I don't know. I remember. And I'm like, tell you got. Damn, man. That's Courtney Gaines over there. I was like, I knew I wasn't in Kansas anymore. There you go, Dorothy, there it is. And then I got, and then I got, I got an audition, one of my very first, very first auditions to play kind of like this tough dude. And I hadn't really been on an audition before, but I heard this story that when Danny

DeVito auditioned for the role of Louis de Palma in taxi, that he went into the room with all the people and said, who wrote this? And it was garbage. He threw it down. He jumped on the table. He didn't really audition. He just was the guy. And he was hilarious.

And they all laughed. And I remember hearing that going, that's how you get, that's how you get a job. You don't do what you want you to do. You do what you. And so I went, I went to this casting director's office and it's just me and this woman, nice woman behind her desk. And I'm like, and she goes, hello. I go, yeah.

I felt so uncomfortable. I'm trying to be. And she said, so did you get the pages? Uh-huh. And you've been working on it? Yeah. Yeah. She's like, okay.

Well, start whatever you want. And I had a cigarette. I didn't light it. I didn't smoke either, but I had it as like a prop. And then in the scene, and then I threw it on the ground. And I stubbed it out into her carpet. And it was over. She said, okay, thank you.

and I left and I left and I was driving back and I thought, I'm not going to get that job. And I had an agent, so my first agent and I got back and she called me and she just said, what happened? And I told her and she just said, well, I guess you've got to learn. That was kind of like a welcome to Hollywood. it. This is not how you do it. That is incredible. I was driving back just picturing her or her assistant. She's like pulling tobacco out of the carpet.

She's like, what the fuck just happened? This guy just came in here and threw a cigarette. He didn't read a single line. Oh, man. My face, fuck, I hers. Oh, damn it, that was gold. That was awesome. Tell the family we said, Merry Christmas.

And, you know, we'll keep the good fight going with the Chiefs, but thank you for coming on and everybody. Make sure you check out Anaconda in theaters this Christmas. Thank you for having me back. I love you guys. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Your families.

Yeah, have a great rest of the season. And always, as always, I just want to say, you know, you guys support Children's Mercy Hospital and Big Slick, the event that we do in Kansas City. You always have. And, you know, you know how much Philadelphia and Kansas City. They love you guys, but they don't love you just for the players you are.

They love you for the guys you are. You're the best. I love you so much. Thanks again for having me on your show. Love you, man. Complete honor. Thank you, brother. Love you too.

See you guys. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Paul Red for joining us. Reminder, if you haven't checked out the latest episode of New Heights Film Club to drop last Friday where we review Home Alone with the one and only Kylie Kelsey, it is available and out now. So go check it out. We've also got a full holiday spectacular with Kyle. Kylie Kelsey dropping this Wednesday on Christmas Eve.

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I'll close it out with a little shorter segment here. Once again, New Heights, a Wondry show. We'll follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with What, S for Fun Cliffs throughout the week of this amazing episode with Ball Rud. Thank you to Paul Rudd and happy Hanukkah. Sorry, I wish you a Merry Christmas. Thanks to all the New Heights production team.

And thank you to you 92 percenters. Hope you guys have a happy holidays, whether it's Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza, or you're just celebrating that you love people around this time of the year. It's really only their best season and it's all. all like it's their best season ever with that team and for with fantasy touchdowns count for more right yes yeah typically like yeah i mean that all it all definitely counts like all right jason give it a world give it a world good roll i'll hit restart for you jaguires we got only one there's only one and you got to take them Blake Bortles

Blake Portles Um Gosh dang I mean I feel like you got to take Fred Taylor right Like I don't know who else I mean you can Maurice Jones Drew trying to think of who else

With the Jaguars For net ETN Bigsby QBs you got Bortles Burnell, Gerard, Lawrence,

I'm not taking any of the, I'm not taking any of the QBs in that list. Okay. Go to receivers. Okay. That wasn't very smart. Maurice Jones drew. NJD.

Nuts as a flex. Chargers. Chargers. LT. Does that count even though it's San Diego? No, it 100% counts. I'll go LT.

I don't know that it matters, right? LT is one of the best picks. LT is the greatest you could have ever got it. It's a good score. Dolphins, can I go Damarino or is that pre? It's too old. Too old.

All right. Dude, I don't know how you're even still thinking about this. how I'm thinking about it Jason doesn't know ball I don't know ball I mean is it uh

let me see keep keep going uh I feel like yeah what are you waiting on Larry Zonka to show up I'm trying to

I mean I feel like Ricky's better years were in New Orleans You're in the wrong. I mean, if I'm going a receiver, I feel like I feel like Tyreek had an incredible year. I don't know that this is.

All right, fine. And absolutely, he had 2,000 yards, I think. Yeah, but I mean, does he have a lot of touchdowns? It's all about touchdowns. Good pick. 376, it's enormous, yeah. All right, Buffalo Bills. There's one here.

I mean, do I go to the quarterback right away? Oh, you know, Josh, nice. Josh has got a bunch of rushing and throwing touchdowns. You're right. You said it best. You said it best. Take the, take the QB. Because it's either, it's either Josh or you wait for like Lamar or Jail, even Jalen with how many rushing touchdowns he has from the Tush push and everything like that.

Or like a Cam Newton. Okay, Cam. But, oh, Buffalo. Do you want to see your options at Flex here? Yeah, let me see. I like the, that's kind of a cheat that you can see. the names I feel like but I'm definitely going to look at these

yeah Stefan Diggs he had a great year with him a couple years who should I go to Sean I'll go Josh Allen just because I don't want to get stuck with a bad quarterback I feel like it's easier to fill out

that's a good one that's a good one 400 Jets oh boy man yeah no there's what there's we know the answer I'm gonna go with Curtis Martin in the flex

well I don't know who else would there really would be um hi Rams Rams

there's a good one here I mean I feel like it's got to be Tori Holt um is it Tori or herland Isaac Bruce Tori were the two in the greatest show on turf oh wow

wow Tori holds oh my gosh are you there is um you're begging me would there's there's one that should jump out oh marshal fault marshal fault yeah

bucks dude he's but bucks wide receiver a tight end fuck fuck The receivers. Let me see these tight ends.

Big Bob Brunk. Yeah, Rob, he didn't have any great. He didn't have great ears there. Kellynne Winslow? I just don't know. What's an easier one to find this next team? Tight-in's always the tough one to leave for the last, if I'm being honest. Yeah, but I feel like it scores the least amount of points no matter what.

It does. Yeah, there's only a, there's like. Yeah, it's like Tony Gonzalez, Travis Kelsey, Rob Gronkowski at the page. Like, it's a very finite amount of teams that are going to get you points. I will go go down again, listen to these guys. I mean, it's got to be I'll go Mike Evans Not bad

Yeah, Bengals Fuck my life Not good Eiffert You beat Paul New high score There you go New high score

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