New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Pin Up Jason, Donna Joins The Traitors and Fatherly "Ed-Vice" with Ed Kelce | EP 144

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

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I never got any advice on sex from dad. We never had the Burrs and the Bees talk. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. I did not know how to talk to the girls. You were awkward. You were uncomfortable. Jesus Christ, I wasn't going to say that.

I was uncomfortable. You were a little uncomfortable. Yeah. It was AOL Messenger. Who was it? What about it was awkward? Jason, I used to ease drop in on your conversations on the phone. You remember when you told me to...

No, we got to take that out. We can't do this. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls at Wondry Show, produced by Waysports and entertainment, and brought to you by Zillow. Hey. Everyone's favorite real estate app. Download the app today. We're your host. I'm Travis Kells and my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio.

Cincinnati Bearcat alumni. Shout out to the Cincinnati Bearcats, open it up a new indoor. Subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus, wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one. and has Jason tell the lovely 92 percenters what we got coming up. We got another great episode for you guys. First, we're going to try to decide the next movie for New Heights Film Club. We're also going to look at some wild fan mentions as well as get some fatherly Ed Vice. Ed Vice.

From the one and only Ed Kelsey. That's right. Ed Kelsey's joining us for a little Father's Day special. Yeah, let's get right to it. Let's start with some of that. New News. New News is brought to you by Nick. It's Kid Choice Awards.

What? The party of summer slime. Tune in this Saturday, June 21st at 8-7 Central, live on Nickelode. All right, man. How about that? I'm tuned in. You better have the girls watching. I'm sure they're going to be pumped to see who the next male athlete of the year is.

All righty. You can still vote for New Heights for favorite podcasts and Travis for favorite male athlete of the year. we need that blimp guys i don't know if you're aware i do not have a blimp Travis has many blumps but i would love a blimp blimps are awesome especially when they have the word Nickelodeon tattooed across them in their orange they're going to be tattooed last new news item weird recording schedule this month Travis will be a mini camp and tight on you i'm going to be doing stuff down the shore we got beer bowl I have a golf hunting coming up we got a bunch of things happening we got sick going on it's going to be hard it's going to be hard to get together we do have some recorded guests that we think you guys

will really look forward to. Oh, you guys are going to love these guys. That's right. That's right. Looking forward to dropping those here in the next coming weeks. And that's it for new news. New news is brought to you by Nickelodeon's Kids Choice Award, the party of Summer Slime. Yeah, baby. This Saturday, June 21st at 8.7 Central live on Nickelodeon. Yes, sir. Let's move along to some fan mentions. We had some wild, wild mentions this week. But my favorite mention came. with this beautiful tattoo of Jason's bald eagle.

This is wild. I don't really. This is, this is, I mean, this is, this is fucking art right here. How does somebody come up with this? The socks, the socks and cleats into the elbow pads and gloves. What's even hot? Do you wear this for Kylie at home? Is there a picture of you like this?

because this is, I mean, if they're it, if you're ever in this stance, I would imagine this is what you look like. Just so confused on how this is a thing. What do you mean? Okay, let's click this link for the backstory, because I don't know how one ends up with a tattoo like this. Here's the backstory. From Erica Smith. That educates. Okay, we have an educator here.

Meanwhile, I want to know what incredible person got this tattoo. Hello. And then my little man, 07. Funny story, I am a Giants fan. My husband is an Eagles fan. We made a bet. I lost welcome to pin up Jason Galaxy. And we're not going to go to Joe for this.

Oh, my gosh. This story makes it even better. Oh, my God, from the educator herself, Erica. This is absolutely hilarious. So this is Pinup Jason. So a woman lost a bet. Yep, because she's a Giants fan. That's amazing.

Yeah. And she's a woman of her word. I guess do we know that it's a woman? How do we know? I thought Kylie told me it was a woman and her name was Lauren. Oh, God. Kylie's all over this. She was like, what the fuck is this?

Yeah, she wants to see Pinup Jason herself. You should just, one-night. She does not want to see Pin-up Jason. night, you should just... Should I roll into the bedroom like this? Throw on the elbow pads. Throw on my game socks, my elbow pads, go to the facilities and get my hands and wrist tape,

put the gloves on. Oh, you know what this is probably a reference to is your ESPN body mag? Oh, nice. I mean, I didn't look like this there. But you did have the bald eagle over your... I did have a bald eagle in that ESPN body mag. I forgot about that. Yeah. How could you forget? How could anybody forget? The entire starting five. Yeah. The whole line had it.

Sometimes you block things out that you're not interested in thinking about. Oh, I know. Oh, do I know. I know. I mean, listen, I love a good bet. That is a hell of a payoff. Like, she has to walk around with that for the rest of her life. Yeah. I mean, I think it's, I think it's great. I guess it's not that bad. Would you ever get this tattoo? I mean, if I lost a bet, I would have to. What would be the Travis Kelsey version of this? What? What do you mean? Like if somebody was going to make a provocative Travis Kelsey, what would you,

you obviously wouldn't have a bird? What would you have? I don't know. Let's leave it to the 92 percentage because I don't want to talk about that. Pin up Travis. God damn it, Jason. Why'd you throw me under the bus? I don't know.

This is your world. If I'm having pictures made of this. If I'm having pictures of me made like this, you need to have you made like this. It's not fair. There we go. There we go. I wish I had shoulders like that.

All right. What's his appendage? Is it a dream catcher? Is it a bald eagle? Arrowhead. Sharp and pointing. Do you hear my kids just losing their mind? Of course not.

Why would I hear that? I think Elliot needs help. Can I go help Elliot real quick before she loses her mind? Do your thing, man. Yeah. All right. Now that about does it for the fan mentions of the week. Yeah, nice pecker, Jason.

Moving on to some New Heights Film Club. Hey. Back into the Film Club. New Heights Film Club is brought to you by Reese's and their new P.B.N.J. Cups. Yeah. We're going to have one last installment of the New Heights Film Club before we wrap up this season. and we will have you guys vote on which of these four films we will be reviewing. But first, we need to pick a genre.

That's right. We need to figure out what genre we're going to go for. Do we want to do summer blockbusters? Maybe just one of our favorites, Adam Sandler, do some Sandler films in honor of Happy Gilmore coming out in July. We can do some summer scleries. You guys want to do some scary movies. get into some horror films or just some movies that give you fucking nightmares um like jaws scary movies scary movies are fun to revisit because they're absurd

like yeah especially the older ones yeah like they don't make any sense like why like just half of them are not even relevant anymore because of the technology like they'd be so easily solved in like today's age with phones and whatnot i forget what movie this was man but it was It was about a giant, like, flock of giant mosquitoes. I know exactly. It's a... I forget the name of the movie. Well, the giant mosquitoes was just Jumanji.

No, no, no, no. There was a movie. This is, this goes way back before Jumagi. Before Jumont. You're talking about birds, the Alfred Hitchcock movie? It might be. I don't know. Because the only other giant insects movie, there was another one that was like a giant spider.

There was Skeeter. A movie? Dude, that's a mosquito. It might be it, dude. Yeah, it was literally the biggest fucking mosquitoes ever. It used to scare the living shit out of me. This is it, dude. Dude.

But that's the thing. These movies are so fucking ridiculous. This shit used to give me fucking nightmares, dude. I'm kind of in on an obscure film that a lot of people haven't seen. I like indie films and like stuff that's just like kind of like off the. you ever seen bird box bird box is good yeah Sandra completely ridiculous

there was so there were like there were two my dog kills my dog kills is in there man there were two like movies where like the people couldn't seen

couldn't see and I just could not bring myself like bird box which was it was a fun watch but like it's so ridiculous so you can't see anything and you're gonna get all this like get the fuck out of here I'm not buying it

and then the one that was even worse I think was C I think it was an Apple TV oh it was still a good watch it can't be bad it was horrendous they're running through the woods traps i challenge you right now blindfold yourself and run through the fucking woods you will not make it further than about 20 feet all right no i'll figure it out you are

gonna hit something no somebody thought of this idea like it was good and i thought it was the worst fucking thing on the planet it was the stupid it was i couldn't do it i don't know why it was awful it was a awful show it was really really bad i don't even know which one you're talking about so talking about sea yeah i don't think they couldn't see but they somehow could still run through the forest. All right. So what do you want to do? Do you want to go down scaries?

Do you want to do Sandler films? Do we want to just leave it up to the 92 percenters? This is what I think. Our most successful and fan appreciated versions of these, just going to put it out there, have been either movies that females typically watch or movies that need to be reimagined in like a grown-up capacity. Like Sandlot was okay, but we didn't really, it didn't have like a lot of like changes. from the last time we've seen it.

I think we need to watch something that we haven't. We both have not seen potentially ever and a movie that is really popular that a lot of other people have seen. But we need to watch it where most people saw it as a child and we are now seeing it as fully developed adults. So as long as the movie meets that criteria, I'm in on it. Yeah. Well, good luck meeting all that criteria.

Does that make sense, Brandon? No, it makes all the sense in the world. What you're saying definitely makes sense. I just don't know. Yeah, I don't have that movie on top of my head. We're going to have to somehow create a genre. Well, let's look at movies that were big in the 90s. Okay.

That Travis and I just haven't seen. 90s rated R blockbusters is like kind of the search here. There you go. That's a start. It's a start. It's a start. Animal House is one. I think that was more 80s, though.

I mean, they're throwing us Terminator 2, Matrix, Pretty Woman, the Rock is so fucking God. I mean, I don't think I've seen Pretty Woman. Oh, that could be it. I think that one would be big. Pretty woman would be big for us. People would appreciate that review, I think. Pretty one would be big for us.

Pretty woman. I think I actually saw this not too long ago. I think I have seen it, but I can't remember it. It's been a minute. Goodfellas is a great one. Goodfellas would be a great recap, especially living on the East Coast now. Jerry McGuire, that's kind of interesting as like a professional athlete. The bodyguard, eh.

Speed is so good. Speed is ridiculous. Dude, honestly, we should review tremors if we're going to go with a movie that's like a horror, but I've already seen them. But total recall great movie. Fantastic movie. Yeah, yeah. But we've seen it. Doesn't meet the criteria.

I'm kind of in on Pretty Woman being one of the choices. All right. So Pretty Woman's One. Pretty Woman's One. Dude, 90s teenage movies. Nineties teenage movies. Clueless. No, thank you.

I mean, I've seen it. Ten things I hate about you. American Pie would be fucking hilarious. America Pie would be funny to go back. Now getting half of the references. Okay. Pretty Woman. She's all that is...

I'd go back to that one. I fucking love that movie. Wild things. Remember sneak into that one. I need pictures with these. I don't... I'm the worst. I don't remember any of these.

Faculty's good. All right. We've got one so far. What about Wild Wild West? Oh. I mean, I don't like that people don't like that movie. I fucking love that movie. I think it's secretly a great movie that people have just decided to shit on.

But you got to admit it's like such a dud after I think like the two previous Will Smiths were men in black and independents say you got to admit that's like a little bit of a drop. Of course, but it's here's my thing. I think if you read, if you. You don't shit on Jim Carrey for making the mask and fucking Ace Venturas. This is my only argument. If you remade wild, wild wild wild.

then go and then going cable guy. Quentin Tarantino remade Wild Wild West it'd be a fucking banger of a movie. Quentin Tarantino's Wild West would be so funny.

I'm not buying this like it's a bad plot like robots fucking like I think the whole thing is fucking like it's ridiculous. I know there's a guy with no legs there's a giant spider. I vaguely recall there's like a

chase in a cornfield. And that's about where I like about movies. It's completely ridiculous. Do you want to add Wild Wild Wild West to the list? I mean, I'm kind of feeling like it. There's two. It does not meet the criteria I laid out.

Oh, my, your criteria is. Nobody knows what criteria. Yeah, we're going to be here for the rest of the night. Thread the needle. I kind of like throwing a bunch of just like randoms in there and like letting the 92 percenters dictate it. Should we just put the tweet out? Let's just put the tweet out. Okay.

The criteria is Travis and I can never have seen it. How would they know this? They don't. We're going to get replies, though, and there's going to be something we haven't seen. All right. Jake, are you taking notes? It's got to be a movie that we haven't seen. Haven't seen.

It's got to be. What was the other criteria? It had to be like from your childhood so people haven't seen it in a very long time was the other criteria. It's got to be like a movie that is. child-centric that a lot of people have not seen since they were children. Okay. But, all right.

Or do you not like that criteria? We can throw that criteria out. Not everybody was a child when we were a child. Most people don't count. Those people don't count. We don't count them. There's movies like Brink that were watched by exclusively children at the time. Like, grown-ups were not watching Brink.

Brink would probably be a tough watch. Brink's a great movie. It's one of the only Disney movies that's held up. Brink is fantastic. Okay. Pump and Suds. Are you kidding me? All right.

Should we just do Brink? No. It sounds like you. Should we just do Disney made for TV movies from the 90s? That's going to get a lot of people going. Where are we netting out here? I don't know. I don't know.

I kind of like the idea of just asking the 92 percenters to submit movies and the rule is we can't have seen it. That leaves it vague enough. Just give us movies that you think would be funny to have us review. Give us movies. We will decide on this end and we will let you know which one we pick. Do you like that idea, Travis, or do you not like that idea? Yeah, let's do it. We got Travis in.

All right, you guys send us ideas. We'll go through them. We'll pick one and we'll let you guys know what the pick is for July Film Club. Jason, is there any more criteria you want? I don't think so. I think that makes sense. I think the idea of reviewing a movie that was mostly seen as people as kids, as adults, sounds interesting to me because you watch it under a different lens.

And most people are going to remember it from their time as children. Yeah. Could also just do break. I don't know. I kind of like that idea. Pupp and Suds. Could do Brink. We mentioned Pretty Woman. That's been on me and Tay's movie list for a while. I'm down to watch that. A movie, I think, is very underrated, Wild Wild West. I fucking love Wild Wild West and Wild Wild West, too.

There's Wild Wild West, too? Yeah. There's not a second Wild Wild West. Fuck, yeah. This is real. You kidding me? I think the second one's got Owen Wilson in it or something. I forget which one is which. Are you thinking of the movie with Jackie Chan, where him and Owen Whistling or?

Shanghai Knights. I might have been. God damn it. I thought there were two Wild West. Oh, shit, there is. Oh, wait, no. I think that's just Wild Wild West. Yeah, you're right.

Top question on Reddit. Wasn't there a Wild Wild West, too? Was there not? The literal answer is, realized we were thinking of Shanghai. No. Oh, gosh. Oh, my gosh. That is fucking.

How many people think Shanghai Noon is just a sequel to Wild Wild West? Dude, Shanghai Noon, also a good-ass movie. That one, I wouldn't mind reviewing Shanghai Noon. I don't remember it as well as I think. I remember he pees on his shirt to bend the bars. Fuck. There might have been two. Shanghai Noons.

You said this shirt doesn't break, not piss shirt Ben bars. How do you remember this? I'm a big Jackie Chan fan. Dude, we could even just do like some Jackie Chan movies. If you ever, what's the one that's fucking not escape from New York? There's another one. Rush hour? No, no, no, no.

There's so many good Jackie Chan movies. That is rookie, rookie Jackie Chan. You got drunken master. You got, you got, you got, you got, um, Oh my gosh, what is the movie where they're running around New York and it's fucking insane. Oh, it's so ridiculous of a movie. Gosh, you're making me one. All right, here.

Let's just get out of this. Big trouble in Little Toke, little China. Is that it? Most absurd Jackie Chan movie. That's what you're typing in. Drunken. I do love Drunken Master. Drunken Master's a great one.

Rumble in the Bronx. All right. So basically 92 percenters, there's really no criteria. We don't necessarily know. exactly what you guys want us to review. So we just want a little bit of a reference so we can start to narrow this thing down. Send in all your requests.

We'll peek over them and get back to you guys with which movie the New Heights Film Club will review. And that does it for New Heights Film Club, brought to you by Reese's and their new Peevy and J Cups. All right, before we get to popa Kelsey, there's something we need to disclose. He's from a different time and error, people. viewer discretion is advised.

We don't know what this fucking guy's about to say. I mean, I just got to be honest with you. He's an old wild card. He is one of the nicest, most genuine people on the planet, not a negative bone in his body. It's just, you know what? Anybody with a grandpa knows something. All right, here we go. We're going to get that Kelsey out here.

Hope you guys enjoy this. All right. Father's Day was this past Sunday. Hey. So we're bringing the only man who could help us out with some. Heights hotline, Father's Day, advice. Shout out to Twitter user Eva G for coming up with the name Edvice. Eva G on Twitter, will this be on a regular episode or just a Wondery Plus episode?

I would love some Ed Bice. Nice, father. Advice from Ed Kelsey, live from Not Gonna Lie Studios. We have Ed Kelsey joining us. Dad, how we doing? We're doing great. We're doing great. Good shirt choice.

Appreciate your. NGL studios. Shout out to Kai for. getting you nice and set up, Dad, you look great. Good. You got the wings going? I should take my hat off and get my wings showing a little bit. Jason, you just got the...

What the longer hair? These are like the wings from the flying nun. Flying nun. I don't get, I don't know that reference. That must have been an 80s or 70s reference. What's the flying nun? More like 65, 64. Sally Field was a nun.

And she wore one of those hats with the wings and the wind would come by and lift her in the air. Oh, wow. Oh. The flying nun, now we get it. Wow. There you go. Did she invent the cookies? Is that Sally Fields?

What's the cookie I'm thinking of? Famous Amos? No, Mrs. Fields, no. She did not make Mrs. Fields cookies. Okay. All right. Sorry. All right, we've gone down a rabbit hole already.

All right. I guess where do we start, Dad? What do you think of Father's Day? Let's start off of there. What do I think of it? Yeah. What are your thoughts on Father's Day? My thoughts on Father's Day is a celebration of your kids.

Yeah. Oh, all right, all right. And how happy you are. Nice. I'll celebrate to that. And what a great job you did as a dad. Yeah. Or doing, right?

There's still, do you ever stop being a dad? Do you consider yourself dad still? Oh, yeah. Yeah. How? 100% Jason, he was just father is you two seconds ago into getting your ass in there to see a doctor by your sleep apnea. Yeah, I'm not going.

I want to do a doctor. They don't know what they're going to. What do, how is being a dad different at this stage as opposed to being a dad? You don't know what they're talking. When we were like Wyatt Bennett's and Elliott's age and Finn, sorry, Finn. A lot more relaxing. At this stage, everything's just a lot of fun. Less work.

You're not fretting about how they're doing in school, how they're treating teammates, how things are going in the neighborhood with them. how much trouble they got into that can be directly tracked back to you. What do you fret about these days between Travis and I? Between Travis and you're not much. Not much? I think you're doing great. Yes.

So you do think that Father's Day is a real holiday. Jason, do you think Father's Day is a real holiday? I think Father's Day is, I think, yes, first of all, it's a real holiday. Anybody, anything that celebrates parents and family and, and, um, Raising children in this world should absolutely be celebrated. Okay. I think that Father's Day and Mother's Day is celebrated across every nationality in some way. Actually, there's a really good way that the Germans celebrated.

We mentioned this last year on the podcast. I'd love to do this with Dad one day. You know how Germans celebrate Father's Day, Pop? No, tell me. The family drops them off at like a woods, and they have a wagon that is filled with beer and different types of meats and sausages, and the dads just wander up into the mountains with a bunch of beer and sausages, and they hang out together for a day.

And then they come back to meet their families afterwards. I'll tell you what. That sounds pretty fun. We can wander back to the pool and do the same thing. Perfect. There we go. We've got to go to the way. We'll just get a wagon and ceremony and walkout backyard.

Dad, mom's in traitors. What? No, we can't say this. Oh, it's already, it's public. It's public. Rumored, rumored, rumored. What? It's public now?

It's public. She's allegedly. I was lectured by your mother not to talk about it. Okay, well, can we record something for when we can say this. What do you think are mom's chances? Chances of what? Of winning. Winning what?

Do you understand? Do you understand what you know? I have no idea what she's doing. So this is the premise of this. It's a game show takes place in Scotland. Basically, there's a group of people, and there's two people in that group or a, a select amount of people are traders, which are people that can eliminate other people week by week. And the group of individuals that aren't the traders need to try and devise who the traders are

before the traders eliminate all of the non-trader contestants. What? I'm sorry. All right. Perfect. So what do you think mom's chances are of winning such game show? I haven't got a fucking clue. Don't know.

Okay. I don't know. I'm not a reality TV show type person. That's not true. You used to love, what's that, what were the history ones? What was the one where they used to bid on the, the, oh, storage wars? Storage wars.

You used to, you were big storage wars. Never saw that in my life. I never saw, I mean, I've seen it on TV, but I haven't sat down and watched it. Storage wars. I used to sit there and watch, what's the, what's the, what's the, yeah. two guys. We watched the two guys that went around hunting for junk.

Yep. The American, American Pickers. Then you used to watch the Vegas one with the Chumley. What's the, Oh, the Vegas. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So don't give me this. Don't give me this. You're not a reality TV guy. Pond stars. Well, I don't, don't act like you're above reality TV. You used to sit down and watch Jackass with us.

Yeah. What? As I recall, I was pretty much, pretty much. adamantly opposed to jackass. Yeah, no, I think that's accurate. I'm pretty sure.

Oh, man. But you were missing out. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Your loss. I want to get Ed Kassley's reaction to this photo. Brandon, you know exactly what photo I'm talking about. I have no idea what photo.

So you're going to get my reaction too. No, I'm going to. Did somebody actually do that? This is tattooed on a woman. I think her name is Lauren's arm. Yeah. No, this is a bet that somebody lost and they have this tattooed permanently under their four-hour. That's not a henna.

I mean, I think you could take them off these days, but no, I think that's an actual tattoo. Oh, what do you think? Immediate reactions. Immediate reaction? Yeah. Fucking loony. You know, what else can I say? This is provocative.

I saw that on social media. And that's a cringe worthy. Cringe? Even without a being on somebody's arm. Just the picture itself. I've never heard the word, you use the word cringe. So this is a new territory. I think it's pretty, it's pretty accurate.

I've never seen anything that. That's made you feel like that, huh? Yeah, that's right. That's right. I think I don't, I don't think I look half bad if I'm being honest. I think it's a pretty, they did me a solid. This might be the best you've ever looked. You can take that off the screen now.

I have to ask Kai that one, though. All right, let's get to some Heights hotline, man. Let's get to the fun stuff, baby. We're going to listen to some voicemails, Dad, that our viewers and listeners have sent us asking for parent's advice. And normally Travis and I answer them. But we always wish you were here to do this because we know you would answer them far better than we can. Yeah.

This one is titled Unwritten Rules with Dad. Hey, Jason, hey Travis, huge fan of the show. My question, my no-dum question is, what was like an unwritten rule you had with your dad growing up? One of my unwritten rules I had always with my dad was when I'd be in the car with him. It would be nothing but his music he loved, 70s, 80s, rock, 90s rock. Sounds like a good dad. And we always watch football. games together

and that was like our big like two big unwritten rules was bad I hope to have a good day and go Steelers oh there we go go Steelers

we didn't have any we didn't have any written rules they were all unwritten I only remember one but it was it was literally a rule that he told me was but he only told me once it was you got to be home

before the streetlights come on. That was the only like unwritten rule. That's a rule that dates back to the 60s at least. Since streetlights were a thing. Did you write down any rules? I don't remember any written rules. Oh, I don't know about any written. No.

No. I think they were all unwritten, but there are tons of rules. Yeah. Don't talk back to your mom. Finish your food at the table. Finish what you're eating. Yep. They're starving kids in China.

Don't hit your brother in the face. No punches to the head. Can we still? use their starving children in China? Is that still an acceptable way to get children to eat food? I think that's to each his own, Jason. I don't know. I kind of gave up on that one.

The matter is I waited all these years for you and Travis to come back with Ann Judy's retort. What was their jitis? Well, if they were here, they could have my food. Leave it to Aunt Judy. All right. What were some other Ed Kelsey rules? If you run, it's only going to be worse.

I remember that one. Yeah. Come here. If you run, it's only going to be worse. I don't know. I'm drawing a blank here. Yeah, that's pretty good. I think it was more situational.

The rules came up where there was a situation that demanded it. There was the golden rule, which kind of everything else fit within the golden rule. then there was respect your your teachers your yeah they're elders in the room yeah but there was something there was another level for like either teachers educators or people that were older than you which i felt like if we ever respect your elders yeah yeah if we ever came back in like one of the older uh just parents or anybody was saying something you were like all right that's enough of that like i feel like that was a big one and that wasn't always easy to say.

And the reason I mentioned it is, you know, how many of those parents or elders were just full of shit. Yeah, I know. You know, but you're just trying to keep your kid quiet and get out of there. Yeah, but the chances are your kid is full of more shit than the elders are, right? No? No, sadly. And that's something you'll come to realize.

All right, fair enough. As the girls get older. All right. Your time is not so much keeping your kids in line as, as a, you know, as a, you're it is deflecting criticism and, you know, rolling your eyes in front of the friggin idiots. Okay. All right. Wonderfully said.

I love that. What were your rules as far as, like, sports went? No eye and team. Yep. You're never as good as they say. You're also never as bad as they say. Yeah. Ignore what people say.

Yep. Hard work and hustle beats talent. always has always will I don't know if you did it on purpose or if it was just the athletes that you genuinely appreciated most but you would always point out the athletes that were

besides the ones that were really good and had personalities I remember you love Charles Barkley we've been on that multiple times always been a big fan of Chuck you'd always point out like the guys that like ran hard or hustled like Pete Rose and like different

whenever we were watching games it was like yeah it was always like athletes that like either were intense or gave above and beyond like effort i remember that was definitely defied the odds yeah never stopped tracking that ball things like that sure i think we can hit the next one irrational mad dad moment is this title hey guys uh this is Zach i wanted to talk to you about father's day and it coming up soon and it made me think of times that my dad got irrationally mad at us. And I wanted to know if there was any time Papa Kelsey got irrationally mad over something

little. Like, I remember our big one at home was, Dad got mad at us because the toothpaste was in the downstairs bathroom, not the upstairs bathroom. We got like a five-minute lecture about it. He's yelling and screaming. Anyway. That does feel a little bit irrational. You guys had a similar experience with your dad.

Or maybe, Jason, can you? admit you having yourself an irrational mad dad moment. Oh, absolutely. All right, thanks. Bye. I don't ever remember dad being a rational. I'm pretty sure he was rationally mad. You should have been there when Travis put the hand lotion in the shampoo bottle.

I mean, that's pretty rationally mad, though. You put some hand lotion on your hair. When you came down the steps and your hair looked like it was glued together, like you had just washed your hair. Looked like Cameron. Diaz out of, what is that movie? It was fucking ridiculous. I looked at you and I was like, oh, shit. What did I do?

Yeah, Travis looked at me and boom, he's out of there. Yeah, it looked like Cameron Diaz from something about Mary. Surprise you didn't go right through the screen door when he ran away. I was like, oh, I didn't realize that. And you were like, you were late to go to work or you were on your, you're trying to hurry up and get out the door. And, oh, yeah, that was a rational. I feel like most of the times I remember is pretty rational.

Rationally mad was a big one for Ed Kelsey. There was a reason for him to be upset. What was, I'm trying to think of an irrational one. I can't really, nothing comes to mind off my head. What do you think, Pop? Do you remember any? No, I'm drawing a blank. I remember you irrationally.

You remember when we were on the, we were sledding down the hill that this was back when we lived in North Ridgeville. It was me, you, and, oh, my gosh, the one neighbor. Oh, what was his name? I think it's me and you or us two and you were on one sled and we were headed for a rock. And I still don't know how this all went down, but you ended up jumping in front of us on the sled and the rock broke your ribs. So you're sitting there. That was.

You're screaming in pain. I'm trying to angle. I remember his name. I remember his name just because I remember this irrational moment from you. We're driving at the car. And Billy says something. right. Billy says something to you about driving and you're like, shut the fuck up, Billy. He asked me if I'm okay. He saw me wincing in pain. He asked me, can you drive? He says,

shut the fuck up. That was one of those things where we, I was trying to avoid the rock, and we all went over. And to keep from hurting one of you guys, I tucked my elbows in so I would roll over and that's how I broke the ribs. Why didn't you just grab us and roll the other way? I'm trying to envision how this rock was so. Okay, well. God damn it. We do have one of those moments.

You could ask yourself, why didn't I go the other way? Fair enough. Fair enough. I get irrationally mad. The problem with children is they're irrational. So that causes you to be irrational. Sometimes. There's a lot of irrational things happening when you're dealing with little kids.

All right. Fictional father. Let's go with that one. Oh, shut the fuck up. Fictional fathers, okay. This should be good. Hi, this is Lacey from Missouri, and I was just wondering, Amo.

Oh. Okay, Jason, what fictional father would you say closely, most closely resembles your parenting style, and I think that's it, actually. Have a good day. Okay. Lee, nice.

I'll say this. I think my parenting style probably mostly resembles a non-fictional character in my own dad. I think that I definitely am very, I find myself being more and more similar to dad in the way I talk and do things with my children. And I think dad,

I'm trying to think like, who's the best fictional character that dad is represented by? Is it red from that 70s show? I feel like he's got a little bit of that. But maybe not as like curmudgeoning. He's more supportive of his children. Yeah. Who's a, like, who's a rough around the edges, but very supportive father?

Al Bundy. Al Bundy. Oh, my gosh. That is low key. I mean, he's not supportive of his kids at all. Al Bundy's good. He's got, yeah, it's, you got to go with a hot spot. It's got the sense of humor of Al Bundy combined with, like, combined with the fatherly, like,

nurturing of like a Huxstable. What's like Bill Cod's, like we can't mention Bill Cosby, unfortunately. But the character was phenomenal shot in the show, Mr. Huxstables, yeah. So I think, you know, I would say it's kind of like that. Do you think that's accurate, Pop?

I mean, that's damn good. You tell you that's pretty good. Yeah. If you want to go, what's, now I'm drawing, Ed, what's the guy's name from, from married with children? Ed Wood. Al Bundy, Al Bundy.

No, that was his real name. Oh, you're talking about modern family. No, I'm thinking what's his real name? Ed O'Neill from Youngstown, Ohio, baby. Yeah, played for the Steelers. He played for the Steelers? Yeah, he did. I think it was only one or two years.

If I'm not mistaken, he was a linebacker. I'm not sure. Are you thinking of Jack Lambert? Look it up, dude. Try me. All right, listen. Brandon, look it up right now. Had a brief stint with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Holy shit. Well, well done, Dad. Ed O'Neill, baby. And he's from Youngstown? Four touchdowns. One game. He's from Youngstown? No, that was Al Bundy's big game. Polkai.

But he did a movie where he was, went to his girlfriend's house to get her kid who was, who had been disappointed by his real father. Yes. And he had to get him across town, or not cross town, across the country, drive to meet his mom. I forget the name of that movie, but I just remember the kid was having such a fit. He tied the kid's feet and legs around a hockey stick and carried him out like a suitcase. That's an Anglese move right there.

That's a good one. Ed O'Neill, really in any dad, because he's the grandpa and the dad in modern family, and he's very much a similar temperament to him. I didn't know he's from Youngstown, but that makes a ton of sense. In Northeast, Ohio. That's a lot of ties right there. Maybe that's why we got so much of that. One of my favorite things ever in the house,

and all my friends still say this to this day, is there was never like any, like, come downstairs, talk to the guys, let them know you can't do that. It was just a scream from the second floor office. Hey, hey, hey. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. And immediately everyone froze.

It was like, yeah, we can't do that anymore. All right. Yeah, we're going to. done. Yeah, I do remember one time at the, we're at the rink. And Travis and a bunch of kids were playing hockey outside the rink while you were skating. Yeah. And, you know, they used to do that in the one corner.

Oh, yeah. Of the rink. And some people, some grandparents are trying to get by to go up the stairs. And I was on the other side of the rink. I yelled out, yo, there's like seven kids dropped the hockey sticks right away. Listen, it, dude, it translates. It translates to me. We were at the Phillies game this week, and we took the girls and some family friends brought their kids.

And one of the other kids, I don't even realize this is like a thing that just our family does. But one of the other kids was standing, like, you don't want to sweet how like the front, she was like climbing on the front of it. And I was like, yo! And immediately she like gets startled and then starts crying. And I'm like, oh, fuck, I just fucked this up. Like, this kid isn't normally used to get in this kind of treatment. I'll tell you, one of the coolest things is, and this was maybe two or three, one of the last few years that Jason played, were in the downstairs in the family room in that lounge.

And, you know, they've come by four or five times trying to get people to leave. And I walk over by the door. And the security guys were very cool about it. They weren't rushing you. But people get Nancy. see. So I just told the guy, I said, watch this. And I just yelled, yo, all of a sudden, everybody starts walking out. Dude, it's a powerful.

Like, Kylie's family has the whistle. Ed can do that loud, like, shoo, hit. And that's, I'm jealous of that. So am I. I don't know that there's, like, the yo is undefeated. You just go about a yo in the middle of a crowd. You could say, yo right now in the middle of a sea of people. I'm like, oh, shit, Ed Kelsey's here?

Let's get to one more. That was a dadism, if I'd ever heard one. Let's listen to one more of these things. InJ from L.A. here. I'd like to know what is the best piece of advice your dad gave you about dating, sex, marriage, and parenting. And also, what is the worst piece of advice he's ever giving you? Thank you and love to show. Okay.

Thank you. That's an awesome question. I never got any advice on sex from dad. We never had the Burrs and the Bees talk. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. Yeah. He left that to the Cleveland Heights Public School.

School of citizens. Yeah, the hell of class. I lives without it. You can too. Mr. Hoon. Mr. Hoon and. Robelowski. Coach Robo taught us about sex.

And Coach Jones. Mike Jones was a. And Coach Jones, that's right. What were the other ones, dating? I remember I was, uh, I was trying to figure out how to, how to get a girl to, to, you know, think I was fun. or cool and in like early middle school, like maybe like sixth, seventh grade, maybe might even been younger than that.

And dad had this funny way of like, hey, you know, just be a friend. Just be cool with her. You know, she doesn't like you. You know, pretty girls all hang around pretty girls. Yeah, that's right. Yes, yes. I was like, all right, yeah, there you go. Just be friends with them.

That's right. I do remember a brief discussion Jason and I had. What he was at UC? Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. He was telling me that, you know. How good I was with the women?

Yeah, see these girls, but I really don't want to. He said, I really don't know what to talk about. And I told you then, and it's true for every guy, any guy listening. You know, I know I play football. I know everybody likes to talk about that. But tell me about you. Oh, wow. All you got to do is shut up and get them to talk about themselves.

And you ain't got to say another word. Nod your head. Oh, wow. Yeah, cool. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. You know, they had the little comments in there to make her feel good and just... Perfect.

You don't have to say nothing. You know, right? No, this is good. This is why you remind us a better meal. This is why you remind us. Also why I live alone. Hey, I actually don't think he's listening to me. He's just acting like you want to live.

They figured you out. Well, I was on AOL Instant Messenger, and you definitely encouraged me to just talk to girls because you could tell that I was just, I did not know how to talk to girls. You were awkward. You were uncomfortable. Jesus Christ,

I wasn't going to say that. I was uncomfortable? You were a little uncomfortable. Yeah. Who wasn't, man? We were fucking, it was AOL Messenger. Who was it?

What about it was awkward? You just said you're real at ease talking to girls. Jason, I used to ease drop in on your conference stages on the phone. You remember when you told me to... No, we got to take that out. We can't do this. And that's all the Ed advice we got for you.

I'll tell you advice I gave you that you didn't, that you didn't pay attention to. Oh, gosh. What's that? Katie... Would say that she sees you and she says hi to you, but you say nothing back. Oh, really? And I tried to tell you, you see Katie talk to her. Not that you have to go out and that you're going to start dating her. She's a little older than you, yada, yada.

I did not know how to talk to. girls. But every girl in school is watching you talk to this hot older chick. This is hot older chick. There you go. All right. All right. And that's it with Ed advice with Ed Kelsey. Happy Father's Day, everybody. Dad, I'll see you for Father's Day maybe. Love you, big guy. Thanks for, thanks for coming on here and having some fun with this. Anytime. You know it. Love you, pop. Love you. All righty, folks. That's our dad. That's Ed Kelsey. That's dad. With some great fatherly advice. Love you, Dad.

We got to incorporate Dad more in the show. He's a wealth of just like entertainment. Come on. This is my favorite human being, man. Beer Bowl submissions are also closing tonight. We will notify the teams that make it by this Friday, June 20th, send to at New Hudge show with 1S

and use Beer Bowl. We've had a lot of good submissions this year and we're narrowing it down. Right. We're going to shout out Drew Garrison. Drew Garrison from Cincinnati, I believe, if I hope Hopefully that's the right one. Let's take a look at this link from one of the submissions.

Yeah. Okay. Playing a little beer bowl, little beer bowl. Oh, it's a little team action. Make beers go bye-bye. Oh, no. Bad pass. Takes a serious, though.

Profanity. That's how you know he's serious. Oh, no. Oh, gosh. They have a lot of good, impressive teamwork on the beer bowl. I will say, this is a very long mat. It's got to be multiple matches. I mean, extra points for all the garage beer merch, Drew Garrison out of Cincinnati.

That was fun. That was good content. That's good. They're also playing my favorite game, which is beer ball. Beer ball is my favorite beer drinking game. It requires teamwork, athleticism, and beer drinking ability. He had the no look. He had the no look pass down.

Shout out to Drew Garrison. sibling swagger i like this intro already this intro is oh they know yeah baby i'm all about this legend oh of the hidden temple fuck yes welcome to new heights

intro is epic i'm getting so excited right now nostalgia right now is unmatched prowess sought the legendary treasure hidden deep within not gold nor jewels but their mother's famed thanksgiving dinner rolls Legends spoke

Oh my gosh This is so ridiculous Is this AI? How do they get this? This is great Jason The elder How fucking long is this?

Do they at any point show themselves? That is correct What color was the loudest? Hold up, hold up Go back to his correct answer Go back to his correct answer. This is amazing in the warm embrace of family. This is amazing.

How did the legend describe the dinner roll? Blue bear cookies. This is incorrect. God, damn, they have to be in. This is legendary. Warman Fluffy. That is correct. What color was the laparrow?

Blue barracudas That is not one of our choices That is correct This is great They're in just for the creativity God damn it My face hurts man That was fucking gold

I think about taking away points for AI Because I'm pretty sure Olmack was AIed out the ass But I don't care That was so good You gotta keep it in Wonderful job Oh, she was epic. The standing there with the beer.

Sibling Swagger is in. That was great. That was outstanding. I'm also trying to obtain Korean announcers for Beer Bowl. So if there's anybody that has experience being an announcer in the language of Korean, we would love to have you be the host for this year's Beer Bowl. Think about how electrical to be. You're going to write a book on how to get canceled.

It was. they would. You're going to write a book on how to get canceled. I don't do that. I mean, listen, they're better than U.S. announcers.

I'm just saying, announcers in English is kind of electric. Fucking Korean announcers. There's just something about it. It's fucking gets the party fucking going. It's going to be absurd. It's going to be incredible. People are going to be into this fucking thing.

You're going to have, they have to have translators talking to the teammates. No, that's not. Yeah. I mean, it's the way they do it in baseball. They do it with Shoheo Tani and Major League Baseball.

New Heights Beer Bowl. brought to you and presented in Korean. All right. Dude, I think it would be an lecture. I'm just saying. I think it'd be pretty fucking awesome. I don't know that we're going to be able to find any Korean announcers. Over there on the Jersey Shore.

I think they might be in Korea. Just a hunch. Yeah, that makes sense. South Korea probably. Keep sending in those beer bowl submissions, guys. That was fucking electric. All righty. That wraps up another episode of New Heights.

Thank you to Papa Kelsey for joining us on the show. next week, Chiefs fans, you're going to be loving the episode we got for you. We got another great guest for you guys. So make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to the New Heights channel. Follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes in New Heights early and ad for you right now by joining Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcast. Once again, New Heights of Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Zillow. Yeah.

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And thanks to our production and crew for always making us and our dad look way better than we are. And thank you to the 92%ers. We love you guys. We'll see you next week. Thanks for tuning in. Kylie show you the pinup first?

Yeah, actually. She beat me to it. Yeah, I think she saw it on TikTok. She did see it on TikTok because I then couldn't find it and I was like where the hell is that thing? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was like already the thing on TikTok was pin up Jason. I like that we're calling it pin up Jason. It's pin up Jason.

What do you want to call it? It's so fucking. You're a little little perverted. No, it's, uh, artistic. Yeah, Jason. It's, you got to celebrate. You're just showing. One of the comments, there's, I mean, all the, a lot of the comments made me laugh.

One of my favorites was it's got a good pecker on them. The old pecker. The old blood pecker. Good looking pecker on that guy. Well done. Let's get that thing off our screen. Yeah, let's move on.