New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Russell Wilson's Flight, Jalen Hurts for MVP and Football Movies Debate | New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce | EP 9

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

On the ninth episode of New Heights, we recap our primetime debut on the “Manningcast”(01:25), read through your submissions for the New Heights fanbase name(06:25), and debate the greatest football movie of all time(10:00).  Jason gives us the details from the Eagles blowout win against the Steelers (15:30), what he thinks of Jalen Hurts MVP odds (20:05), and lets us know who didn't love the debut of “sexy batman (27:10). Travis breaks down what it was like watching Jason from the stands (33:20) and how he’s welcomed some new guys to the Chiefs roster during the bye week (37:21).  We also dive deep into Russell Wilson joining the mile-high knees club on a team flight (43:18) and reveal what really goes on team planes (45:40). Close with a look ahead at how the Eagles are prepping for the Texans on a short week (55:15).and the Chiefs big game against Derrick Henry and the Titans (01:00:10). Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce every Wednesday during the NFL season & check us out on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Visit https://HelloFresh.com/heights65 and use code heights65 for 65% off plus free shipping! Visit https://athleticgreens.com/newheights for your free offer!  Follow New Heights on Social Media:  http://hoo.be/newheightshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I always think of the quote of where he fakes to the right. No, he fakes to the left. He thinks about thinking he, I don't know where are you? People all over the world welcome back to new heights. A juke's original show presented by Wave Sports and Entertainment. New heights is a show that had such a good week last week. That's right. The NFL is randomly drug test again. We are. We are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights. Oh, Ohio representin the heights always and always representing Cincinnati Bearcats. Baby, we got to get back in the win column.

We've always got a great episode. Trev will break down the Eagles win against the the big Steelers. Talk about our wonderful appearance on the Manning cast. God love those guys. Man shout out to Omaha man. We'll also talk NFL trade deadline moves by the Eagles and chiefs and maybe take a look at NFL flights and how they usually happen Or

Maybe sometimes I don't know happen a little bit differently anyways, but first as always Still the number one sports podcast in the world new heights Still the number one sports podcast in the world new heights, baby. Who's there? And man, pretty cool. Thank you guys, man. Thank you guys for listening. Well, what's also new is the number one sports podcast in the world. Met the number one sports broadcast as the Kelsey brothers finally met their

Manning Cast debut. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, pay to Eli for that. there's finally met their Manning Cast debut. Woo! Thank you, thank you, paid to Eli for that. I'll just jump on with you guys, man. Thank you for having us. What do you think, Tramps? I thought you hit me with the low blow,

but other than that, it was a whole lot of fun, man. A whole lot of fun. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, anytime you call somebody out for things that they, you know, aren't very proud of, like not being able to play your senior year college in high school. It's common knowledge. Then why do you have to say it? Why do you have to say it? Man, this guy because he just wanted to make fun of his

little brother, man. No, no, I'm not. I'm very like chopping down your little brother, huh? I'm very proud that my brother has overcome adversity in his life. They asked me how my college experience was that my brother has overcome adversity in his life. They asked me how my college experience was with my brother. And I answered honestly, I did not have all of the all of the things that happened in college. And that were unique because we were brothers at the same university. You chose the one that was arguably my worst, my worst memory.

Thanks. Appreciate that. It's my, it's my worst memory too. And you remember the bad ones. My, my senior year, I'm getting excited to play football with my brother. We're going to dominate. The Kelsey brothers are going to dominate college football together. It was all going down the right track.

What did you want me to talk about? Do you want me to talk about me and you living in the same bedrooms with two beds in it and pizza boxes? Yeah, and me turning 21 Me turning 21 in the middle of the season and you and everybody in the house coming in Born to keel it down my face and my bed. Those were the fun stories that I thought you were gonna say That was man. I'll tell you what, if you guys ever had four offensive linemen pinned you down. The fifth one or Jose Cuervo down. I said, no brands, no brands. Tequila straight down your mouth. Actually, pinched my nose, so I would be forced to open my mouth. It's that was aggressive. Yeah, I was. I remember

it. I'm really sorry about that. What was even more aggressive was the fact that I choked on the tequila Caught it up came out of my nose and out of my mouth went into my eyes So my entire face is burning on top of my bed smelling like tequila and Yeah, we had practiced the next morning. I like 80 am. It was a it was a blast. Thanks for doing it Yeah, you know, I think you know, I was trying to get you know, I love to kill. I love to kill it now. I was trying to get you back on the right track. You know, I think. I don't know what it was about that day, man, but it's snapped me into it. Well, um,

page, uh, the sheriff offered to come on new heights. Boy, would that be an awesome episode? Oh, man. There are so many things I'd love to talk to that guy about. Oh, man. I just want to ask him how the heck he got one of those master jackets, man. Oh, God. How did he get that thing?

Man, they don't let anybody get those. He's gotten the jacket and on top of that, he's got the OD shirt. He's got, well, which one's more exclusive? The master's jacket or the OD shirt? I know more people with a master's jacket than I do with a no D shirt. Yeah, that's a good question. That's a good question. I don't know.

And does he have to pay the dues? Like I think, does he, like if you're a part of the master's, like do you have to pay to get in? Or is it like, I know. I know. I know. There's so much, there's so much going on. Yeah, I mean, Augusta probably more pictures. You got to know about Augusta's probably more pictures in the Jersey shore, but you know,

I like my my OD shirt. That's a that's a pretty high on the items of of exclusivity that I own. Yeah, well, I've been denied like five times every time I get drunk at the OD and ask for a shirt. So for me to get one this past year. Oh, no, for this past year, this past year when I actually worked for the OD for a day. That's right. They let me wear a shirt and I made sure I left that thing with it on. For everyone that doesn't know the OD sponsors an event at the Jersey Shore for Eagles Autism Challenge. My wife and I have been putting on an event at the Ocean Drive. They've been kind enough to let us do a guest bartending event there and the employees all work for free. We raise a

bunch of money for autism awareness and research. So much fun. So much fun. Travis participated this past year. If you get some spare time before July 4th on that Wednesday It's it's gonna be happening again And it might be the most fun charity event. I've ever been a part of so hopefully we can keep that rolling I can definitely put it up there is the top for me man. It's a blast every time every time I get the invite I'll be there brother. All right. Well last last episode We also asked fans what the New Heights fan base should be.

We did. And we got some interesting ideas. Let's say, let's say. A few that I'm like dang, that was a good one. How did I not think of that one? But keep going. So Rick Wyatt said New Heights hive. Not bad, not bad at all. Survival on YouTube comments said new Heights nation.

See, that's the that's pretty good. Yeah, I think we like that because the Cleveland Heights Tigers is Heights nation, right? Heights nation, baby. If I'm not mistaken. All right. We got proud supporter today. Shout out to the to the Heights high moving on in the playoffs. I think we got Ignatius at the house next week in the division one high school playoffs in John Hi, man. It's kind of again in our DC went to Ignatius. We're gonna have to get some money on this one. I mean, just some bragging rights. Half of my friends growing up went to Ignatius. So I got I got I got some extra pride this week and we were in the Tigers gear all you all week man. Hopefully we can get a win on Friday. We got a rush underscore one two nine throwing out Kelsey crew, which I feel like Kelsey crew was kind of already out there, but I'll give you a credit rush one two nine.

We got Frisco Flounder, new Heights, Hooligans. I like that. The Hooligans. What is the definition of Hooligans? I think a Hooligan is actually a soccer fan. If I'm not mistaken, but I think it's also can be slaying for a man of mischief. Yeah. Okay.

We also, or here we go. Here we go producers. Thank you producers a violent young troublemaker typically one of a gang. Well, I don't know that we want to support new Heights gang. New Heights. Yeah. New Heights, who looking gang? Listen, I'm all about trou makers big fan of trouble makers, but Feel like everybody's got to get in trouble man. Yeah, if you don't get in trouble How do you learn Jorge new heights nation? Okay, we already said new heights nation which ones get incredible Jorge or TA survival Both of you are getting some love I think I think that's the producer showing us that we need to go with new heights nation All right, Joseph Lawson Cheagles who the chiefs and eagles that's the producer showing us that we need to go with new heights nation. All right, Joseph Lawson

Cheagles who the chiefs and Eagles. That's right. Chiefs plus Eagles. These equals But as I as I've noticed Traveling this past by week and everything we have a lot more fans of the show where people followers of the show that are just Chiefs and Eagles man, and we're very appreciative of that. We've had a pretty, it's been, it's been so much fun. I've mentioned it already about the New York crowd, saying how much they love the show, but yeah, even being in the airport fans all over, man, we really appreciate you guys tuning in. So I don't know if we can go with Cheagles. Yeah, I agree.

I saw some other ones. That's all climbers in a reference to like new heights, new heights climbers or new heights summators I saw and there's some creative people out here, man. So the new heights Kelsenites Kelsenites, okay, I thought that was pretty clever Yeah, I think I think we should keep sending them I don't know that we're ready to make a decision or put something to a vote yet, but I love this creativity. I think right now, the two that I'm high on

are new heights nation and new heights hooligans, but keep them coming. We're excited about this. We got to get something good. Don't want to rest your decision. We'll keep it. We'll keep them rolling. Right on.

Well, that brings us to the fan question of the week. As always, thanks for your comments. Please keep these coming from J Chat 85. J Chat. What's a football movie you'll stop on and watch every time. I love sports movies, man. So I mean, you could throw on just about any of them and I'll sit there and watch it. I'm a huge, I love, love little giants, man. Absolutely love little giants. The O'Shea brothers going at it. One, yep, you already know the sibling rivalry, man. He's the best in the world. And I felt like I can't see with this. There's so many good liners, the kids absolutely killed it in that movie. And I felt like Jason you were Kevin O'Shea my entire life and I just couldn't beat you at anything. So that one

hits home for me as a kid. But then you got to remember the Titans who had an all-star cast. Denzel Washington absolutely killed that role in a very, very, you know, at least when I was in high school, that's when that one came out. So it was like driving like my love for just team and camaraderie and coming together and playing some football man. You can pitch a mile, but you can't throw it Uh, you can pitch a mile, but you can't throw it. Or you could, you could throw it a mile, but you can't pitch it five yards. I mean, there's just so many quotes from that one. Um, finally saw the white corner back. Get sideline. And remember, yo, yo, he's taking my son out. Yeah. Well, he's better by gocelling. Yeah, I mean, that was a team move by gocelling. I mean, you play it.

Yeah, it's all about how are we going to win this game? You know, for me, I don't know. I think my favorite movie is probably the program. I think it's just it's over the top in the perfect way. And touches on every facet of a collegiate and professional sports I feel like. When I went to college and real I connected so much more when I watched it again in college, knowing that it was a college football movie I yeah without a doubt. Outside of obviously the linebacker, Juicino, in the locker. Yeah, Vladimir. You lead me on. Yeah, there's some really bad moments

in that movie. 30 pounds in an attitude to match. But without a doubt, my favorite football movie to watch, like just guilty pleasure is water boy. I mean, it's not even close. Oh, I mean, Adam's the Sandman. There's so many great quotes. Adam Sandler's great. But there's so many, I mean, it's just, probably the most quote, my favorite. We still reference this, whenever we're getting too complicated as an offense, like we're like, oh, what if the diva says this or this or that?

Or what if we're gonna hear, I always think of the quote of, where he fakes to the right, no, he fakes to the left. He fakes about faking. He thinks about faking. He I don't know where are you? The one favorite the winkler man. What a love is my favorite quote. All right. So that's it. We could be like Tiger Woods and his daddy. It's me. You're daddy So many good ones, man, shout out that I'm Sandler man All right, oh another one the longest yard. Oh

Another all star cast which one the second one the second one. I was thinking I'm gonna say I'm gonna yes, I prefer I prefer the the burnt Reynolds one personally. Well, I was thinking. Yes, I prefer, I prefer the, uh, the burnt Reynolds one personally. Well, he was a both, but yeah, but he was the listen, the first one, he was really, I mean, he was the guy in the first one. Second one, he was a hero. He wasn't the Adam Sandler hero, but he was the stone cold Steve Austin. The second one was too much of like, uh, it was like trying to be something too big. The first one was too much of like it was like trying to be something too big. The first one was I'm telling you go. It was epic. I mean it's good. I love the movie. I

love Chris Rock. Adam Sandler. Like I love all these guys. It's very cruise. Oh my god. There's so many of them. But the first one really I love that movie. All right, well, we got a shout out to some fan art from Allison on IG, me and the fanatic, I gotta say that is pretty damn good. Great work, great pensmanship, the coloring. There's really, I mean, there's detail. You see altering greens in there, The excitement on your face. Somehow you encapsulated the pure joy. And encapsulated. Yeah, and the new balance are very detailed.

Outside of the tennis shoes, she forgot the laces. But other than that, she absolutely killed it. New balance, I might be the next wave. That's more dad than he put on putlaces on shoes, you know, take the laces off. Another variable. The only way you could make the only way you can make new balance dad shoes more dadified is by taking the laces off and making slip-ons.

Let's move on, baby, T up 12 bold topics topics to wrap up week eight in the NFL. I only got the Eagles game to talk about since it was my by week But I was in attendance for it and saw you guys just actually cruise the victory man. You guys Control that game the entire time got caught in a few you know long third and third and longs But other than that it was a pretty flawless game offensively and defensively. Eagles win 35 Steelers 13. Jalen went absolute lead nuts again. The guy is playing his tail off, hats off to Jalen again 19 of 28 for 285 for passing TDs, career high and 140.6 pass or rating. I don't know if he gets any better than that. He's now 110 consecutive games in the regular season

as a starting quarterback, the longest QB win streak and franchise history. Got him, I didn't know that man. This guy's playing like the best quarterback, the Eagles have ever had. Yeah. Is he getting enough credit? I know you've been advocating him since the beginning

of the season is the reason why you guys are winning, but what do you think? Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't really like the question, is he getting enough credit to be honest? I feel like the credit happens when it happens, you know, I think, you know, is he proving that he's one of the best quarter back in league? Absolutely. Yeah. And the more he does that, the more that this happens, the more he goes off, the better this team performs, he's going to continue to get more credit as the starting quarterback and somebody who's playing like that. So, you know, one of the most beautiful things

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Jalen. How are you responding in terms of his MVP talk? Well, listen, I know that our strength of schedule hasn't been something that a lot of the AFC teams have had. That's the only thing they could say at this point. Yeah, but even, I mean, you know, you know, darn well, it's hard to win every. Any given set of plan, right? I mean, you guys have two losses. You've lost to the cold to the end of the bills. You can't make it. Why did you have to throw us under the bus? I'm just saying the cold. Like I'm just saying, listen, any team can beat you. No matter you can look at strength. It's got you all you want. It is hard to win games in the NFL.

And it's hard to win every single week. And the fact that we're still defeated in the biggest reason, not the biggest reason, but I mean, you want to talk about MVP, you know, not only have has jail and hurts as numbers been up there with the premier quarterbacks in this league. And his playmaking ability has been up there. But look at the turnover differential or plus 14. Now that or whatever it is, plus third, I can't remember, but we're like astronomically higher than the next closest team. And part of that is our defense has created a lot of turnover, but the biggest part of that is that we have taken care of the football.

And we've said this before, and I think that this is a vastly underrated part of Jalen Hertz's football game right now, is that not only is he being a playmaker, but he's doing it in a way that is smart. He is taking care of the football. He's making good decisions, right? It's hard to be aggressive and to score points and put up yards the way he has, while also doing so by not being prone to making mistakes. And the fact that he's doing that and leading our team and not putting us in negative situations. I mean, if that's not an MVP candidate, you know, at the top, I don't know which one is. So now, we're, again, we're only halfway through the season.

We've got a long season left, not even halfway. You know, we got to continue to play at this level. And yeah, but, you know, for the first seven games of ours, you know, I don't know. I don't know too many people that have done a better job than him. Well, you heard it from Jason Kelsey, ladies and gentlemen. Um, and obviously, Jaylin, uh, has got a short week coming up this week. So we'll see how he prepares with, uh, with only four days to get ready for the game.

But, um, yeah, I mean, he's taking with the defense as given him. I saw a play when I think it was third in 12, third in 15 where the defense this past week was playing at the sticks. That means there were let and everything underneath get caught so that they could rally to the ball to stop you guys on third down. And instead of forcing something down field

or past the sticks, he just took the flat. And he said, you know what, I'll play field position game. I got a great defense. I got a great offense in terms of how you guys progress over the course of a game. And that's the difference in a guy trying to force something and throw a turnover or a guy trying to just keep the ball and keep the team's goals in mind. And yeah, I can't agree with you more, man.

He's taking what the defense has given him. And that's helping you guys out a lot. Yeah. Well, AJ Brown played so well that he got drug tested after the game. Six receptions, fifty six yards and three tuddies I think he had three touchdowns in the first half. Yeah, and one half. That's right. Yeah, that's pretty dang good. He couldn't go for the full outbundi and get the fourth, but you know, not many can. If you know what I'm saying.

First Eagles wide receiver with a hundred and 150 yards and three touchdowns in a game since 2007 That's pretty impressive man Do you think they do you think they drug they know who's gonna get drug tested before the game where they're actually Like looking at the game like this dude is going way too fast. Okay. We need it or this guy is way too strong I don't know I think the, but it is pretty coincidental. Yeah. We've seen it multiple times that after a huge game guys like guys are getting drug tested. I know it's happened. No, Del. I've seen it. I mean, it's happened to me a few times. And it's like really this game, but yeah, but when you have good games all the time, you're

going to get drug tests sometimes. Guys got a good point. It's actually in the in the in the claw and in your contract, you're going to get tested a few times throughout the season after games. If you score three touchdowns on that third touchdown, should taunting be legal? Like if you're ball in that well, should you just be able to do whatever you want? I don't know. Or in a, or in a, in a game like, uh, what was it? The, the panthers game

where he gets the taunting penalty after scoring a touchdown late in the game. Just absolutely electric takes his helmet off. And they they moved that they moved the field goal or the extra point back 15 yards because of it. Like, you're going to I can barely keep my composure right now. I'm so excited. You're going to flag me because I took my helmet off after a touchdown to win the game. Yeah. Should it be legal? Should there be like, uh, all right, we'll give you some leeway. It's your third touchdown. Well, I don't know. I think, you know, I think the taunting stuff in general has gone over the top. Like they've clearly made an emphasis and there's been a lot of guys. I mean, our guy, Chris Jones was a flag. Some people would say we lost the game because of it. Well, I think they're trying to, I guess,

get something in check or whatever they're trying to do. I'm not sure what they're trying to do. I don't know. Yeah, I think I don't know how many scores you have. Should dictate whether you should be able to talk to not, but I do think that taunting in general is going, it's going a little bit over the top. I mean, just a little fingerwag and like it wasn't like a, like a, like a aggressive fingerwag. You know what I mean? Like he was just like, I got you. Is that what it is? This is what

he told the media after he said he was telling the Steelers defenders not one, two, uh, uh, that's not enough. Yeah. Saying that three, that's, that might be enough. I got a full stomach now. I'm full. Wow. Well, I don't know.

I think people, I think people like to see it. And in general, I like giving the fans what they want. Ladies and gentlemen, we finally got what we've been asking for all year long. Jason's least favorite superhero of all time makes an appearance in the Eagles game sexy Batman debut. him makes an appearance in the Eagles game sexy Batman debut. I'm not going to lie dude. You look like you were like a Ben Affleck Batman dude. You kind of look like you kind of resemble the Affleck Batman. Yeah. Is it sexy Batman or fat Batman? I guess that's up to one's own discretion. But you know, I think I had to show some skin and make it known that a fat sexy Batman was out. I don't think the broadcast did it justice. They only got you from like your your shoulder pads up. They didn't get the full Harry belly to make it fat Batman. and sometimes they can be a little sizes, I get it. I saw it on this side.

I'm sitting in 120 all the way in the back and I'm staring and looking at the other sideline and just see your shoulders proud as ever. Just chest out. How sticking it out? Just walk it around with the sexy Batman belly out and all, you could see the ears on your fricking mask from a mile away, man. I loved it, dude. I absolutely loved it. I had the mask sitting there on the sideline. I've been waiting for a screen to go to

the house and it hasn't been happening, but you know, I figured Halloween weekend, you know, the starters were playing so good, or they take us out in the fourth quarter. Maybe that's a good time to unveil the sexy fat Batman. Yeah, I thought it was perfect timing. You're known to wear masks on the sideline. This isn't your first time. You're talking about the underdog mask? Underdog.

Actually, I was not a- This is kind of your thing. You're talking about you don't like to dress up. This is kind of your thing This is your that was Chris long and In Lane Johnson with the underdog mask Never ordered no, unfortunately Never mind. Yeah, I tried to buy one for the next game But so many people bought those underdog masks off of Amazon that it sold out you couldn't get them

You could not get one. Bo Allen couldn't find one, so you had to wear a poodle mask on the field. It was actually pretty awesome. Oh boy, Bo. Yeah. You actually made the cover photo for Twitter and Facebook for the NFL's verified pages, man.

Everybody loved it, man. Who doesn't love sexy Batman? Listen, whether it's fat Batman or sexy Batman, you'll love both of them. I love them. I can't argue with that man. You mentioned it on the the manning cast. Shout out to the manning cast and ESPN for Lett and his jump on and have some fun with the brothers. But you mentioned how how Siri Yani might not have been in the best mood when you when you walk past him with the sexy Batman outfit. Yeah, but I didn't know, you know, and I think, um, you know, I never want to be a distraction. That's the thing.

You never want to be a star. There was still a game going on. And I have the mask on and I'm kind of like, shortened the sideline, all the teammates are laughing. Everybody I showed to her laughing. And I see Nick. And I know I feel like he saw me, but I couldn't tell, but he was not happy about something. I think it was because the offense was not doing. Well, you just got a holy pelling your backed up. It's yeah. Yeah. And he was like, I think in his head, he was like, stop effing around right now. So I just took the mask off.

I was like, I think that's, you can't do my two. I give you a bone. I take you out in the middle of the fourth. We're up 35, 13. And this is, this is how you repay me. You're over here. I've slapped it around. You can't be.

I've since asked him and that was not what he was upset about. But I think you would, you know, I didn't want to, I didn't want to test that, you know, so I took it off, put it back on after the game. Yeah, it woke me up. I was like, okay, maybe maybe not the best time Jason. Still in the middle of the game. All right. Style this back a little bit. I love it, man. Other game notes. The one and only Mr. Lane Johnson dressed up dressed up as game day fit Jason Kelsey. He came he came in was lucky enough to find a OD shirt. We were just talking about the ocean drive. They had to ship it in. Green shirt. This is how this is how strict the OD is about those shirts. They

had to ship it in. Ship it in. They they wanted video proof that lane was the one receiving the shirt. I'm not messing this up. I'm not messing around. They are restricted with those OD shirts. I don't know what they would have done if he didn't get it. But I don't want to find out. That's pretty good, man. I'm not going to lie. I got to I got to find out you got to know if if there's a bottle opener on the bottom of those sandals, man. That's the only thing. Because if it's not, I mean, it was, it takes it down just one more notch. But if you went full Jason Kelsey and opened up a bottle of his favorite brew at the end of the game with his flip flops, that's full Jason Kelsey right there.

That is hands down. And also did he not have drawsops. That's full Jason Kelsey right there. That is hands down. And also did he not have draws on? That's a good point. That isn't an integral part of the Jason Kelsey fit. No draws. No belt, no draws. Oh, you sure? I'm wearing draws right now.

You better believe you're not. Are you kidding me? You're in your own house. I'd be I'd believe it if you didn't have pants on. Does Daly partens sleep on a stomach? I've heard that. I haven't heard that. Is it bear shit in the woods? That's pretty damn good. Lane, thank you for getting us that gem of an outfit on Halloween day, man. And well played, well played. Trabbi week went to the Eagles game with dad who was hilariously mistaken as Doug Peterson.

I mean, it was Halloween. He could have been. He could have spent the Halloween Doug P. Man. The visor, the glasses. That was hilarious. Did you know the broadcast team made sure to circle you out when they pan to you. As if, you know, people wouldn't know who you are. But you, are you not that level of celebrity that they can just go to you? Well, I mean, I wear face masks for living, Jason. Not everyone knows exactly what I look like. On top of that, I was blending in the trees, had a bucket hat on, wore my gang green.

Not a lot of people really know, they like, they definitely second-guess it in the stadium. I'll hear it as I walk by, I was like, is that Travis Kelsey? You know what I mean? And then I'm like, hey, no Travis. And then if I don't respond, I'm like, man, that wasn't him. But if I turn around, it rubs. I'm like, dude, we love your brother, which usually comes with a follow up to the show is hilarious, which is awesome. Thank you for all the all the support from the from the Eagles fans. I love hearing about how much you you guys love my brother, man It's cool to see the city of brace brace you like that, but

Yeah, man, I'm blending in the trees. You never know man. As have wore because the sun was out, ladies and gentlemen. I thought it was going to be a 50 degree nice. Maybe the last, the last game you had the glasses on. Maybe the last game. Yeah. Well, how about this? How? OK, when you're watching an NFL game from the stands

as opposed to being on the field, do you see plays differently? Not really. I feel like watching a game in person is 10 times better. I love feeling the energy from the stadium. I love getting up on third downs for the defense and getting rowdy. I like, you know, just see and on top of that, you can see the field better, right? You can see all the players a lot more when you're in person. And yeah, I genuinely enjoy watching your guys' offense go to work, man. You guys are fun to watch. Well, when the offense is working, what are you watching? Um, depending on down and distance, I like to watch Dallas a lot. I mean, obviously, the

nature of being a tight end. I love watching the tight end. I kind of like to see what the defense is in. So I get caught watching the defensive side of things whenever you guys are on offense, just to see how they're relating to the Ralph concepts and things like that. Another guy I love watching is Miles Saundersman. That dude is an absolute baller.

I love watching him get downhill. Travis, this is so great. Okay. What about me? No, I said, yeah, of course I do. I watch your name is Dallas and Miles and all these other looking at the defense. You don't watch your brother. Yeah. Well, Jason, when they're in a 40 front and nobody's over you, I kind of get sick of just watching you double team the three technique. All right. It's not a, it's not a blast. All right. So on third downs, I'm really just watching you double team the three technique. All right. It's not a it's not a blast. All right. So on third downs, I'm really not watching you that much. First down,

all eyes on you, but all eyes on you. So you get to the second level a few times, make some key blocks. Also, so you get a holding penalty. And I thank you because when you get the holding penalty, that means they talk about you. And when they talk about you, they usually talk about me too, now. So let's see. I get some TV time time, even when I'm not on the field on Sundays. Well, just so you know, when I'm at your games, I always watch you on every single way. I'm lying. I don't do that.

I was excluded. I was excluded. We'll create fun to watch. Creates. I'm staring at that interior line. Trace man. Trace man. I was excluded. Creator. We'll create fun to watch. Creates fun to watch. So doony. Yep. Yeah, I'm staring at that interior line.

Trace man, maybe. Trace man. And then every once in a while, when you make a play, I'll watch a highlight. Oh, yeah, trans ball. Okay. I'm gonna go back to Cree. Hahaha.

That's a good. I can't talk to you for that. Alright. Let's talk about, um, you know, let's talk about some new teammates both the Eagles and the chiefs made some trades since the last episode. Yeah Cadarious Tony traded to chiefs via the Giants. Yeah chiefs coach Andy Reed Reiterates that he won't rush cadarious Tony into anything. He's not comfortable with It's going to be a learning process getting him up the speed. Yeah, what uh, yeah.

I would assume that it's similar offense knowing that our quarterback coach Mike Kafka one of our guys sound out the Kafka man. Yeah, I think I think it'll be a smoother transition than a, than coming from a lot of different teams, uh, a lot of other teams in the league, but, um, extremely excited. I mean, that guy is an absolute beast with the ball in his hands. I love the route. City runs, obviously, his college highlight tape at Florida is second and none, taking things to the house. He was, uh, he was, I believe he was compared to Tyrick

when he was coming out. Not a lot of guys get that Tyrick comparison, but I think they were more so just saying it because how many touchdowns, how many big time touchdowns he has, meaning big plays, meaning 20 plus yards or 30 plus yards, maybe 40 plus yards, taking things to the house and being that game changer. Yeah, I'm excited for him, changer. I'm excited for it.

I'm excited for it. Only to add another weapon that you got to account for in this offense is extremely exciting, especially one of his calibre, man. Well, we also added a free agent. We added Robert Quinn from the from. Stop, bearish. Robert Quinn's first game with the Eagles. We was quoted to say and I forgot about the trade pretty fast because these guys embraced me in here.

Yeah, that's a great quote and if he feels good, I think that's that's always good to know that the team has the right culture and lock room that it's welcoming of new guys. 1000% The team has the right culture and lock room that it's welcoming of new guys. 1,000%. And Robert's unbelievable, dude. He's a great, great dude himself. I've met him at numerous probals. He definitely blends with you. You could see that guy blends with every single team or teammate out there, man.

Robert Quinn's first game with the Eagles. He was quoted as saying, I forgot about the trade pretty fast because the guys embraced me in here. Oh, yeah, which is great to hear a good culture, man. Yeah, that's the type of team you want. That's the type of environment you want. And that's the way it's been here, you know, since I've been an eagle. I feel like that's always been the culture of the team. I can't think of too many times really any that I feel like we made a trade or an acquisition where a guy didn't feel welcome or comfortable. And I've heard this quote from a number of guys. I remember Zach Brown when he came here saying that the Eagles, he was surprised that the offensive line was even talking to him because I guess in Washington, the offensive line didn't really get along with other position groups or something like that. That's what he. Maybe that speaks more bad on Washington. I'm not trying to throw shade here, but anyways back to the Eagles

You know, it's it's definitely something that the team Is conscious of You know, I think that They know that adding a new piece in is important, but they also know that the locker room is important. And right away, the moment Robert gets there, he was being walked through the building, how he rosemains introducing to people, how he introduced them to me in passing,

and we just chop it up for a few minutes. And I think those little things right there go a long way. And it one lets me know that he's here and he's ready to go but it also too gives me an opportunity to tell Robert that we're excited to have him here we're excited to have you as a partner team and I think those little you know even though it's not a long conversation when you compound that I'm sure that that happened with everybody on defense, all the coaches, everybody in the building. It makes a guy feel like he's a part of something pretty quickly. So that's an awesome quote. Love to hear that. Got to love it, man. Got to love when the culture's right, man. And the chemistry's good on the

team. You got everybody kind of portraying the same image of excitement for a guy to come into the building. I'm getting those those those those established guys in the middle or towards the end of the season that kind of just solidify the trust that you have at that position. You know what I mean? Like not that you guys were a desperate need of defensive end, you might have been, but whether it is or not, you know, getting that veteran presence, getting a, getting a guy that has been doing it, has been playing at an extremely high-level his entire career. I know when we won the Super Bowl, Tarell Sugs, when we got the

Melvin Ingram last year, an energy guy, a juice man that I always like to say, man, he brought the swagger as well as making plays on the field. All that does is just give you more confidence and make you hype when they actually do go into the game and make those plays, you know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah. I'm not I don't worry about how they're going to fit in, to be honest with you. I just assume that the front office has already like thought about that. Yeah. I don't think that new pieces say anything about the pieces that are there. I really just feel like man, add good players. If you're good coaches, you find a way to use and utilize good players. All of them.

And yeah, I mean, you know, so I, the bottom line is Robert Quinn has been a double digit sack guy for pretty much his entire career. I know it's a little bit down this year, but he's going to get a lot of opportunities for us to pass her now being on a team that has been one of the best defenses in the league. Yeah. So, yeah, excited for Robert Quinn to be an eagle. And I'm sure you're excited for a cadarious Tony to be with the chiefs. You know what? Play your insights. NFL flights. The flight we had to, we had an interesting flight this week. I mean, the Russell Wilson news, uh,

going overseas, going over to London. He's always looking for an advantage, brother. He's looking to say ahead. I honestly feel like he just trolls us with this. Like, he just feeds us with just nonsense at this point, because he was smiling. Did you see his interview when he explained what he was doing? No.

He was smiling like mischievously the entire time. He was answering the questions about what he was doing on the plane. Interesting. He went through every hour of how he approached it. And he had a game plan if that's, if it's real, but I think there's a little bit of him trolling and just loves to see the world just absolutely I'm a new

A new one on social media. It's not even just the world. I mean, I think every NFL locker room was like I mean if you ever see Travis we I've been in the lead for 12 years you been in the lead for 10 have you ever Seen somebody doing high knees in an hour There's no I'm there see no way't. There's no way he was doing high knees in the high. They just made it up. There's no way. I'm not sure. He just made that up. I don't think they made that up. I think he was doing high knees. He's doing that. I immediately turned into a class clown. I'm throwing paper balls at him. I'm throwing milk cartons at him.

I'm doing everything to just mess with him since he's doing all these shenanigans on the plane. All these extra shenanigans that probably isn't gonna do anything to make him more prepared for the game. Yeah, that's my, I don't, I mean, who knows? It's hard to keep track. It's who knows. What's hard to keep track with the sports side stuff

is always going on. It's a long flight. I'm sure there's some type of advantage to getting up and moving around on a flight that's not long. You won the game, but I mean, I'm going to be hard pressed for anybody to tell me that getting up and doing high knees is going to be better and more beneficial than just sitting down and visualizing throwing the ball of the right guy. Like I don't think it's gonna be that big of a, I don't think we're gaining that much from the high knees. But you know who knows, I'm not a sports science expert but I do know a lot about NFL flights. Yeah, I've been on a few. Do you guys have any interesting, like,

do you guys have any, what happens on an NFL flight in the world of the chiefs? Do you guys have any things that happen? Every single flight, like food wise, movie wise. I mean, we have, we have a hell of a spread of candy and treats once you get on the plane. I always like to enjoy a nice cheeseburger. Every plane I've ever been on with coach Reed has always had cheeseburgers waiting for

us at the door. Red Robin at that baby. They read the cheeseburger king. The cheeseburger king baby. And they're at these aren't cheap burgers now. These are delicious red robin burgers. Burger King needs change the their mascot to just Andy Reed You're welcome burger King. I'll make it come back man. Oh my gosh. Come back Could you imagine? Yeah, no and then on the on the ride home. I always like to enjoy some ice cream then All right, well We uh, I don't know the Eagles have always had something where the rookies always bring food to the planes. And, matter of fact, when Andy was still the coach of the Eagles, I almost was late to, I almost missed a flight

because I was ahead to go get Popeyes before the plane for the entire O'Line. And shocker. So you're fried chicken right there. Hey, shocker, Popeyes wasn't on time, right? Okay, so I'm over here driving like as fast as I can to get to the airport Which I've never been to before I don't know how to get to I'm going I would I would at one point I went down the wrong way of a one-way street. I was like screw this. I know I got to go this way. I'm going this way and Don't do that. I made it. Yeah, somehow I made it there and I had no food in the entire O'Line hate of me

I was like guys. I don't know what you want me to tell you I I was gonna miss the flight. I tried. You got a problem with it. Call pop eyes. All right. We used to do per diem with the Eagles and somewhere along the line. They got away from it because they provide all the meals now. But basically per diem was a stipend that each player got in a way trip. Was like $40 or something. Something like that. I think that sounds about right. And, um, of course, whenever you give guys money and cash, the first thing they're going to do is find a way to gamble with it, right? So, and I do not, uh, I am not a advocate for gambling. Everybody be sure. You're on record saying it already. You're on record saying it. I don't want to. I've seen a lot of lives ruined by gambling, you know, do so in a very responsible manner, please.

But what we would do is we would get one of the pillowcases and everybody would take money out of their prudium envelope if they wanted to participate completely optional and you would write down your number on the bill, right, on Sharpie. So you write down the number and all the bills would go in there. And if your number got pulled, you got the bag. You got the pillowcase? You got the bag. How many people are throwing it? Is this like the whole plane?

It got to the point where people will be putting in more than per diem. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? It got a little lot of hand. It got a little lot of hand. Did it all have to be like a certain dollar, like it had to be a 20 or like guys throw it in

21s and being like, yeah, it had to be the same dollar amount. And I'm trying to remember what it was. I think it was 20s, but it might have been a 10. I can't remember. Anybody can win in the best part about it is was, yeah, like it wasn't just players, like coaches could participate. Anybody could participate in the play. In the best, but the best

part about it was if you won, if you won, you'd be spending your money. You'd be like, Oh, this Jason P just tried it out of the bill. Phil Adolfi, if you ever got you ever see a sharpie with 62 on it. That's right.

You just spend Jason Kelsey's lost per DM per DM. I went hungry. I went hungry that pregame meal I think I think we covered it all man. Well you guys sit first class now. How about that? I'm not getting into that Jay. I'm getting into that bullshit. I'm getting this every player should be sitting first class. I mean, Jason, do you guys not have a players committee? We do have a players committee. Are you not on the players committee? I'm on the players committee. Are you not on the players committee? I'm on the players committee. If you're on the players committee, it sounds like you got something to bring up

You know, it's hard. You know that we brought it up before in the coaches at first class You brought it up with this coaching staff or previous We brought it up with every coach staff the only coaches staff that let us for sit first class was Chip Kelly Everybody else sports science in the back sports science. And in the coaching staff's defense, it appears that it didn't really make a difference in the wind column. No, you guys were winning. Nick Folls had the best quarterback rating of all time. We did it. We had two 10 plus. We had two 10 wins seasons of the chip. That's true. Everyone like we were terrible. You know, I, I don't know. You know, I get it.

The coaches have been working hard all week. It's an opportunity for them to get a little bit of extra sleep. Yeah. But you know, you can't tell me that Jordan Melata, 68, 400 pounds is too comfortable back there at coach. You ain't lying, man. You ain't lying.

I'm telling you what it makes the world a difference. The sleep that I get on planes now is so much better. And on top of that, the only, it gets kind of sketchy. It's like, do you just put the big guys up there? You got to just put the big guys up there. You put all the starters up there. There's only so many first class seats. And that's the problem.

That's why I think they don't do it. It's tough to navigate who gets those seats. Yeah. So I get it. But my brain gets it, but my knees don't. So let's move on, baby, to the new heights stamp of the week. We got a few good ones for you. You got a lot of guys, you know,

taking their game to the new heights this week. You want to go with yours first? Sure. I got a PJ Walker. You want to talk about new heights. This dude was playing for the rough necks in 2020. Okay. I mean, you talking about a guy still ball and still ball. And you talk about a guy coming in and making plays happen for the Caroline of Panthers season looks like it wasn't really going with you know much of anywhere. The last two weeks he's been a big a big part of them kind of turning around offensively especially this week. 19 for 36 317 yards and a

touchdown. Not just one touchdown of the big time touchdown. What was that Hail Mary CD pass the DJ Moore traveled 67.6 yards in the air the longest comp the longest completion. Yeah, you read that right. In the air. Launched it. Right on the money too, man. That was a fun game, especially at the end, man. You hate. You hate to have something like that. We already kind of mentioned it earlier on the last touchdown to DJ Moore where it took us helmet off and got an extra 15 yards for the extra for add it on for that extra point. and lost by three on another misfield go I believe. Absolutely, you know, took the shine away from how good of a game, PJ Walker played. So yeah, remember the last game you've seen that was ruined by somebody taking the helmet off prematurely?

Too I. It was actually Cleveland Browns versus the Kansas City cheese. It was what was Rudd's first was the Dwayne Rudd. Dwayne Rudd, right? road. Dwayne road, right? Yeah. Texas helmet off after a sack. He had a sack. He had a sack.

Shout out to Trent Green. Yeah. Oh, man. I had a Cleveland kid, man. That one's done. That one's done, man. I remember it to this day. Keep your helmet on, boys.

Keep your helmet on, but shout out to PJ Walker. All right. Who you got? I got my guy fellow tight end. I believe rookie out of for the, for the Baltimore Ravens. First of all, I got to go to shout out to Mark Andrews. He left the game and unfortunately, I got a little banged up. I was pumped to see him play against the Bucks last Thursday to see how he was

going to, you know, attack them or how he was going to have success. Had some success early, just got banged up. Hopefully he's all right. Love watching that, dude. Ball, your first team all pro from last year, but Isaiah likely comes in. And this is how you know they got a good culture in that tight end room. You know, he's making plays. Mark comes out of the locker room, unfortunately, not able to go back into the game and is on the sideline. Gives him a congrats after the big time touchdown. Six receptions, 77 yards and a touchdown. He's definitely a guy that I've recognized in the preseason. I gave him a shout out in the preseason saying look out for this guy. I think he's a absolute stud Has a great great feel for defenses and find in zones and in that offense. I think I remember

Mark Andrews talking about how Him and Lamar Jackson have a relationship now to where it's just you know get open type of relationship And that's my favorite kind of offense is to just, you know, see what the defense is in and just go out there and be friendly for the quarterback. And obviously it works like a charm for them because Mark has having another stud season. And obviously Isaiah likely comes in and you know, has immediate production

and a big time touchdown late in the game to kind of seal the win. Well, so Isaiah shout out the shout out Isaiah likely taking his game to new heights, baby. Here we go. All right, let's look ahead to week nine. Let's look ahead, Eagles. At the Texans, headed down to Houston for Thursday night football. Texans coming off a tough one against the Titans, getting ran for, I think it was 240 plus yards about Derek Henry. But, they kinda do that to everybody though. Yeah, especially these, right now he's on a roll.

I think they're last four or five games alone. He's leading the league in terms of running, running if not Nick Chubb and with the Browns, but um, yeah, both of them. But yeah, as of late, uh, Derek Henry's been pretty unstoppable. Yeah, no, it's, um, it's going to be a fun game to watch, especially on a short week. Uh, I know we were just kind of talking about it, but what do you do differently on the short weeks? Do you, do you just spend as much time as you can in the cold tubs? What are you doing differently? Uh, no, I mean, I, on the short weeks. Do you do you just spend as much time as you can in the cold

tubs? What are you doing differently? No, I mean, I obviously you try and make sure you're sleeping, you try and make sure you're, you know, recovering as much as you can, but, you know, I'm not, I don't know, I'm gonna go in to a big sauna protocol tomorrow. I like the sauna a lot. There's obviously no practicing. So everything's a walk through. Everything is mental preparation. I love Thursday games for that regard. I think that it's a chance for the teams

that can be the most consistent and the teams that can be mentally in the right place in eliminate mistakes. Those that end up being the teams that a lot of times the right place. Yeah. In eliminate mistakes. Those end up being the teams that a lot of times win these Thursday night matchups. That's why it's so hard. I mean, I know we're favorites or whatnot, but it's hard to win in a way game on Thursday. It really is. And you know, the Texans, I'm sure, going to be fired up after that loss last week. They're, they're going to be hungry for a win. Yeah. And we're going to have to bring it. Absolutely. Do you think, do you think the by week before this past Steelers game, do you think that helped out in preparation for this game?

You know, I don't know. I mean, kind of having it so close. It definitely helped out for the coaches. You know, the coaches were obviously able to do a lot of game film ahead of time for this Thursday game, as opposed to a coming in the midst of regular season where you don't really have that much time to do extra work. So I think for us, we don't look past the first opponent after the buy. We're just focused on the Steelers. And after that game, now we're focused on the Texans.

It kind of helped for the offense. The obviously, we did pretty well. So we're out of there in the Texans. You know, it kind of helped for the offense. The obviously, you know, we did pretty well. So we're out of there in the fourth quarter. So we didn't really play as much of a, you know, a full game load. Maybe that'll help. But, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't really look at it like that. I think both teams are on a short week and you just got to prepare really, really be locked in mentally and eliminate mistakes. That ends up being the biggest thing with these short weeks. Nice. You seem to still give it the old 24 hour rule after a win.

Yeah. You know that you were you were asked to hour you are you gonna get ready for next week and you say you know what I'm just gonna enjoy some beer right now. I'm gonna go ahead, put my feet up, enjoy this win real quick, and not think about football and just keep it moving. But I know that that is, I know that's a funny quote and whatnot. But and you know, sports science is definitely evolving. I mean, we had guys in there doing BFR bike workouts to the game.

I run into Jordan Malata after the game. And he says, obviously, he was looking for his wife to let her know, like, hey, I'm going to be a little while. I'm jumping. Yeah, he was looking for Nikki shout out to Nikki. He was telling that he was looking for to let her know that he's going to be a few extra minutes because he's going to get some extra recovery and right now after the game is going to do some

stuff in the training room. He's a- And I'll say- Never- Never in my mind if I thought about doing something proactive for the following week right after the game. Actually, I take that away. I take that back right now. I'm lying. I've definitely gotten- I've definitely got needled after a game by our needle specialist Julie in the training room. Sometimes it's just you got to, you got to break up that scar tissue right now. You know, obviously, there's a lot of guys that are doing that for me. I'm big on mentally recovering just as much as physical recovery. And, uh, you know, decompressing after you've been on a grind all week,

preparing for the Pittsburgh Steelers and playing a game Which is mentally taxing Hey 12 hours of Sitting by a fire drink and some beer and talking to you had a good one going you had a good one going. Yeah, not too bad I'm not going crazy just a couple, you know Go crazy just a few. Yeah, we're not playing Wayne Bruceke or nothing. Chiefs of Titans Sunday night football. We just talked about how unstoppable Derek Henry has been.

What is your relationship with Mike Vrable? Um, Vrable's man, it's been cool getting to know Vrabes because obviously growing up He's a high-o-stay football guy Had a had a awesome career in the NFL scored a few touchdowns on the offensive side of things known. He's a defensive player scored a few you know got in there on some goal-line packages was one of the first kind of defensive players to be added to outside of like a refrigerator parry and stuff like that, but he's been known to score a few touchdowns. And then you know, just uh, through the college ranks, you know, our guy Luke fickle over at the University of Cincinnati,

him and Luke, uh, teammates at Ohio State. So there's been a lot of connections than you add that onto playing against Braves in the AFC my entire career. While he was in Houston, then obviously while he's in a Tennessee, it's just been cool to know another guy from kind of the area of a Northeast Ohio that's made it that's got that vibe of he can relate to absolutely everybody. And it's cool to see him like like the what was it? Ben Jones video. You could tell Vraebs pours it all into into what he does and loves what he does.

So I got a lot of respect for Vraebs. More so on the football field than the golf course. It's got a lot of but that's most most football players. And to be honest, for a defensive guy, most of those guys are really stiff. He can swing a club pretty good, but obviously a lot of respect for him. Fair enough. Well, Andy Reed has a 20 and three regular season record after the buy. I remember it was something ridiculous like that in Philadelphia. And he's only continued that with the chiefs. Well, so hopefully we continue it this week. You know, it's a, we got a huge challenge ahead of, you know, we've got obviously outside of, of rabled hungry, tough defense.

You know, it's kind of his backbone is all his players, you know, they bring it every single play. I am, they definitely have the toughness that he played with. We got to go up against Derek Henry is the the what's the plan? What's the plan? I don't know. We're going to go find out tomorrow. Go in the building and get a game plan and figure out. But I think it is stop the run. Heavy on the stop the run this week. So we might have a few more backers than DBs this week or pack the box. I know it's going to be a huge challenge for our defensive line, our linebackers, but we got Willie Gay back and when that guy's flying around him in a bowling at linebacker when

they're flying around, they can definitely stop the run. So we'll see how it goes, man. Do you ever talk to the coaches or players about like what the plan is maybe on the opposing side of the ball? Because I feel like obviously you're geared up for what the offensive strategy is but how much do you get into the nitty-gritty of what the defense is trying to do if ever. To be honest I might ask a player but I'm not talking to Spags about what he's going to do to stop Derek Henry. I don't think or you know if he's going up against the huge run team, you know what I mean?

But when he ever come up to you and just start talking about it, um, he'll come up to me and, and, and, and definitely ask me about some like a little stuff like, um, when I know he came up to me, uh, earlier on in the year and, and asked me about what I would be thinking if a defensive player did this on a certain play. You know what I mean? Whether it was fake a blitz or how he was lined up when he was blitzing. You know, what are the indicators that the kind of the giveaways that you know he's coming

and things like that. And that was cool to kind of give my insight. It makes me feel like I'm helping out the defense a little bit, you know what I mean? But Spax has been doing it for so long and the guy gets it. So it's like I got full faith that he's, he knows what he's doing and as long as I take care of my job, I'm going to, we're going to, we're going to be just fine on that side of the ball. Yeah, I feel like I, I never, I've never gone out of my way to have these conversations.

Right. They always just kind of come up organically whether they're passing in the cafeteria or something. Exactly like you know me and Jim Schwartz I remember I've talked numerous times about the same thing you're talking about blitz recognition or hey Kels what would you do if we did this this or talking to like a defensive guy and he's like oh hey we're gonna have to do this this you know I mean and which? Which is awesome for them to do because who knows you better than the guys that went up against you in training camp, you know, I know our defense like the back of my hand, you know, I've seen all there. Well, I obviously the game plans changed, but I've seen a lot of their blitzes, a lot of their

tells, a lot of the things that they've been working on all off season. So it's like, yeah, I can help out in that aspect of, you know, telling them what I'm recognizing and what may, you know, trick up, trick the feeder, make someone take that extra thought to, to trick the defense, I mean, to trick the offense. So it's, it's always anything's helpful, you know what I mean? And it happens, vice versa. You know, it happens. My into it.

I certainly go up to Jonathan Ganon or whoever to try and get any little bit of advantage. I can't under way defenses think. Yeah. So, you know, I think that's about the extent, but and it's always fun. I love talking ball and getting a defensive person's perspective is always interesting. because even when you think you have it figured out It's more nuanced so there's a little wrinkle that maybe you didn't quite understand and maybe that helps you the next time. Yeah Well, man, I don't know about you guys, but On episode I'll tell you what sounds like we got another good one. Can't wait to see what everybody everybody says about it, man

episode nine in the books Well, man, nine next week. I know it's hard to believe Next week we have a special two episode week will be dropping. We got two of them Yep, we'll be dropping the regular episode on Tuesday not Wednesday, but Tuesday Tuesday, not Wednesday, but Tuesday. And we have a very special interview coming out Thursday. Ooh.

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