New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Sandler Returns, Baker Mayfield's Unfinished Business, NFLPA Debacles & Pretty Woman Review | EP 149

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

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I want to know you. I have no idea what the words are. It's a great tune, though. It's a banger. Was that song made specifically for that movie? That movie was in the 90s. That song was from like the fucking 60s, 70s or something. No chance that song is from the 60s. What? 64.

That's not Roy Oberson. Is that real? This fucking this dude, he's got it. Is that real? I love when I show Jason the results of a search and he tells me he's just fucking or no, you're wrong So they named the movie just knowing they were gonna use that song knowing that that was gonna be the song that they tied everything Transition. Yeah when she transitioned from that looking like a stripper and looking like that montage classy lady. I've seen a lot of great montages.

Rocky Balboa, Rambo. And as much as I like seeing guys shot up, seeing Julia Roberts get all done up and then go back to the woman that shoot her away the day before. Yeah. So do you work on commission? Big mistake! That was a balling movie, that was a balling movie. That was a bang. ["Wave Sports & Entertainment"]

Welcome back to New Heights, a wondery show. Produced by Wave Sports & Entertainment. and brought to you by general mills favorite cereal bread. I wanted that to land so bad. I thought that was great. That didn't hit. I thought that was really good. That was terrible.

Welcome back to new heights. Ladies and gentlemen, a wonder show produced by Wavesports and Entertainment and brought to you by General Mills. Favorite cereal brands. How about that? We're your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. My

big brother, Jason Kelsey. Hey, out of Cleveland Heights. Oh, how? That's right. Cincinnati Bearcats. Taking on the Huskers at the Nip! Not the Nip! Not the Nip! At Arrowhead, the other home field. It's a G-Hi! Yeah, there it is.

Subscribe on YouTube, OneDrewPlus, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show at New Heights Show with one that's for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, tell the people what we got coming up on this amazing episode. Oh, we got another good one for United Dpercenters. This season knew it is over. Season three is officially in the books. We are on the final episode, the finale, if you will. Man, we had some bangers. We had a bunch of fun guests, man. It's kind of unreal how many unbelievable guests we've had on the show. Dude, and we got another one today. We're ending it with an amazing guest.

We've been waiting to get him on. We've been hoping he would come on to the show for a long time. He's been ducking us. He's been ducking us. We finally caught him when he didn't have anything better to do. Baker Mayfield is on the show right after. Shake a fake baby. To the start of this thing.

You're not going to want to miss it. One of the best personalities in professional sports, period. The quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is going to join us later on in this episode. Before we get to that, though, we are going to get to our review of Pretty Woman with the New Heights Film Club. And also, we're going to start with, of course, some new news

from across the world. Is that right, man? New news is brought to you by American Express. We're gonna start with, of course, some new news from across the world. Is that right, man? New news is brought to you by American Express. We've got a special edition of new news. Take a look at this. It's pretty awesome. What's up?

The boys, I miss ya. Nice tan, man. Yes, yes. You guys are doing all right, eh? We're doing good. We're enjoying the life, man. This is my doing all right, eh? We're doing good. We're enjoying the life, man. This is my last week of freedom, man, before I'm back in the grind. It's about time, buddy.

I've been seeing little things of you both looking happy. You, Golfing, Jason was in underwear that was filled to the brim with a beautiful hug. A beautiful hug. The old bald eagle baby. Had to go with the extra small, but it got in there. It seemed like it was doing just fine, man. When I'm in a fucking wetsuit, holy shit,

it's humiliating. I got it. Miss you guys. Your dad did good in the movie. He's all over it. Oh, I cannot wait, man. This is going to be so epic, man. When you told me that at the Super Bowl,

I was so excited. I'm like, oh, yes, big Ed. Big Ed's in literally, I think, 15, maybe 20 shots. Every time we cut to somebody I see big real sipping coffee. I think looking good. He was he was in it man. Way to go pop. He was in it just over your shoulder at the dinner. That shit was epic man. Appreciate you letting the big guy get in

on that. Is is bagel still around? Where's bagel? Bagel is comfortably laying in the house with the with the humidity. We keep them. We keep them in the house. AC. It's a luxury living right there for you. Yes. Yes. He's doing very well. Good. You know, Bagel's name used to be Pablo when we first bought him. I let him know that yesterday.

I said, we changed your name and Bagel stared at me like I was Pablo you took that from me you motherfucker is bagel in is bagel in the new happy Gilmore happy Gilmore 2 did you make your appearance bagel in a happy Gilmore 2 I don't think so I don't think he got in there man he He tried but I he was asking So sure he money crazy He was asking for Travis funny All right new news new news is brought to you by American Express We've got a special edition in new news

All right, man here to help us is the stars of Happy Gilmore 2. That's right. Cool. Well, he's the main star. He's the he's the guy. He's happy. I think it's equal man. Me and Travis are pretty equal buddy. Fair enough. Sorry. Travis. He also star of Happy Gilmore 2. Yes, a handsome star, a stud. You should have seen him. So much fun doing that, man. He did good? Jason, he was so cool.

He was just like you. Just like you when you took over with announcing. You guys just go, all right, if I'm doing this, I might as well be great at this. Anyways, yeah, you were cool as shit. Travis was locked in. He had to kind of be a bad guy. He was just there. It was the perfect remedy, man.

It was the perfect remedy. It was just so much fun hearing the role and then Adam helping me like find the role on set and then just like, it took me a second to actually, because looking at Bad Bunny in a scene, it's hilarious, it's hilarious. Bad Bunny is just naturally funny as fuck. I don't know if people aren't around him enough,

they're gonna find out in Happy Gilmore 2 how funny this guy really is. You two guys were amazing together. Yeah, yeah, he was so sweet and you had to be a little bit of a louse to him, man. And you didn't like doing it, cause you loved the guy. I loved him, you already know. didn't like doing it because you love the guy. I loved him. You already know. You had to be mean to Benito, but we got it done and you look cool.

And I got to tell you, Travis, how tall are you, Travis? Six-five? Six-five, yeah. The six-five of you is going to, it's definitely going to make that Benito nervous. It's towering. You were towering over Benito. It'll look cool. Oh man, that was so much frickin' fun, man. And we got Big Ed in there, man. You were kind enough to let my dad throw on a gold jacket and have some fun, man. Yeah, your dad was smooth as hell.

I was telling you guys, he's in loads of shots. Every... I think it's when you cut to either me or Lee Trevino, you see? And he's always right in the shot, looking cool as hell, looking like a proud member of the Gold Jacket Club. I don't know what year your father in the movie won the gold jacket, but he wore it proudly and he was cool as hell.

Oh my gosh. It was so epic to be, not only to be in the sequel, but to be in it with Lee Trevino, who was really the only golfer that was in the first one. Yeah, that's so funny, fellas. When we did the first one, we were goofy. We were young and goofy. And I think we wanted we talked about other golfers being in it. And we did the movie for Universal. We would mention it to them. Could you maybe get so and so and they'd be like, he said no, no, everybody said, Oh, okay. And then Lee Trevino out of nowhere. He said he'd be in our movie and he did it. And and then 30 years

later, he all his buddies showed up to jab at Jack Nicklaus. How cool he was. How about the smoothest guy in the world, man? Yeah, man, just a buttery swing. It's just a kind, cool cat when you meet him, man. I know, man. That was cool. My dad was in heaven meeting all the OGs of golf, man.

No doubt about it. Now, what sports did your dad play growing up? Everything? He was a baseball guy. He was a baseball. He played some football as well, but he was a baseball guy. Yeah, he played baseball, football, and then later on played rugby.

Oh, what's funny though is that he actually handed us a set of what looked like Happy Gilmore clubs. It was the old skinny bag with the woods that actually had like the wood with like just like a metal face or something. Yeah, exactly. Got you handed us those when we were younger. And that's what we played with when we were young. That's amazing. So you guys used to walk around the course together all the Kelsey family. Well, my dad didn't do any of the golf and he basically my dad was trying to figure out how can I get these guys like out of

the house? That's summer. That's so he bought us some used clubs that played against sports for like as cheap as he could get them. Right. And then he just sent us to the local public course. Highlands up in Cleveland, Ohio. It was like five hours of free getting these boys away from me. That's so true. So true. It makes total sense. Now, I totally understand as a parent why my father would go.

You look tired. Go to sleep. And I'd be like, I'm not tired. It's two in the afternoon. What are we talking about? You'd be like, take a nap. You need a nap. But yeah, my father too, fellas, he my father was a great golfer. And he would get me my brother out there. And my father is one of those guys who knew what he was doing with his with his hands. And he did he was electrical engineer and contractor and kind of knew and he would take real clubs and shorten them for us he'd be downstairs cutting shit up

making it work and then we had little clubs that work for a while holy cow that's a good dad right there it was cool man very cool. Very cool. Yeah, that was nice. You got to tell the audience, where did that actual happy swing, like the crow hop into the ball, where did that come from? Me and Tim Hurley, he and Dennis Dugan, the director, we were like, shouldn't happy kind of have like a sort of a hockey swing? And I said, yeah, how about I kind of run up there and give it like a slap shot kind of little momentum that we just started doing that.

That's this is epic. The fact that you could just do it on the fly like that had the hand eye coordination to get on to hit the ball solid like that. That had to be. Oh man. I mean, look, I don't I when I get out there, like I played with Bryson like two weeks ago. And he had me do this when he was filming and for his show. And he had me do the swing and I think I did it twice and I hit it twice decent, but had like a little fade on it. I wish I wish I had a draw going but I couldn't get that go I get that fade every time I'm

up here with it. Then I go, remember, swing out, then I go, no, I'm gonna do it the whole way. Over the top, baby. Over the top like an idiot. I know it, I know it while I'm doing it. I'm going, why are you doing this, you imbecile? We love it, man. Nothing wrong with a good power fade. Exactly.

Lee was the only guy that would do it last time. It feels like there can't be many people that you called up is a do You want to be in happy humor too and weren't interested in being I mean What was it like filming it this time around that was different from the first time around? You know, I like we tried to make it a real athlete like you guys know the deal and you know what Jason We were thinking like when an athlete retires like what goes on throughout the day

and like, and how you miss it. And then you kind of say, if I got out there again, you know, like, that's kind of like your whole life is one thing. And then all of a sudden you're not doing that. And so we made the story of happy is that he's been out for 10 years and he decides he's kind of out of cash and he's like I got to get back on there and and we knew to make it real and have him be on a pro tour I put out a lot of calls to the real golfers just to make it look authentic and and the day that Travis was there was nothing but superstars there in the golf world. It was filled with them. The new, the old, it was everybody. Yeah, it was a day, a couple of days we'll never forget and they loved Travis, like every one of them.

We happened to have a bunch of them that I was already cool with and huge fans of like Spieth and Shafley and all them and it's the best. Yes, you gave a nice chest bump to Zander. And it was a big time. It was a big we were all loving that day. It was, I think, it was like two days of fun. Yeah, it was I think in the movie, that scene turned out great. You're all over Travis. Whatever you gave us was great.

And whatever these all the golfers gave us and lady golfers from the from the female tour. They were awesome. And the there's so many great athletes all over the ball. I could not be more excited for having more to to come out. Like is there anything else you want to like give us on it or put out there? Like, I just want to say thank you to everybody. I mean, so many cameos. Everybody came and did. I know they would be a nice to be in do me a favor. It's a lot of time making a movie. You sit, you hang, you don't have that much to do at times.

It can get frustrating, but nobody show that everybody. It was like, it was like a clubhouse. Everybody, every day was a new bunch of people coming in for a day or two and we all just sat and hung out. It was so cool man. Travis man you were so cool to all of every one of us. You came in bruises on your back man. You just played in Pittsburgh or something right? You had some doozies man.

That's great. I had a few a few catches the week before, man. I was lucky. For everyone that doesn't know, I did it on the the bye week last year and it was so much fun getting away for three days and jumping on a set with Happy Madison. You guys run it like a family. It is so cool to see, man. You guys do it better than any other set that I've ever been on. Not that I've been on a lot, man. Thanks, man. It was so fricking cool. And you mentioned, thank you to everybody that came in, man. Thank you for doing it the way you guys do it

because you made everybody feel at home, feel comfortable. And I can't wait to see this masterpiece on July 25th, baby. I love that you're in it, buddy. And we worked hard. We hope everybody has a good time with it. I can't wait. I know it's coming out and then it's out. That's life.

You go, just like you guys with a big game you go been thinking about this my uh for a long time all season and then all of a sudden you go here it is man let's go you know it can't wait to see it it's gonna be yeah I mean this is one of the most iconic movies that came out in the 90s. I can't believe it's actually happening again. I can't believe Happy Gilmore 2 is happening this far away from the first one. Could not be more exciting. Thank you, buddy.

Thank you. I hope you guys have a fun time. Thank you for the time, big guy. Love you, boys, and I'll see you real soon and say hi to the families. The sand, man. Have fun at the premiere, man. I wish I could be there. I'll be in old St. Joe

Missouri. Catch it catching the kids of the ball from old Patty Mahomes man. But I wish I could be there. You're the best thank you again for letting me and my pops come in and have some fun with you. Have a great season fellas I'm

going on tour in September if you guys are near any of the shows come to the shows. September and October. Yeah, I think I think I'm thinking I'm going to be near both of you guys. So you'll let me know. Also find it. We'll find a guy. Have fun. Big. I love you guys. Thank you.

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Company affiliates Northbrook, Illinois. Ha ha, so Beggar Mayfield is not the only guest. The Sandman showed up. Now it's pretty awesome. Hee hee hee he only guest the Sandman showed up That's right, that's right. I love that dude man, and I was talking to to Will Compton and Taylor Luan about this It's like there's the there's the the heroes that they say you mean don't meet your heroes And then there's the heroes that you do meet because they exceed how cool and how amazing they are Yeah, right every single time I'm around a man that guy just he makes you feel at home

He makes you feel loved and he just makes you feel like you've been homies since since the first time you saw him on the screen It's so cool, man. He lives up to it. Yeah for sure Well, I am thoroughly excited for happy Gilmore to cannot wait for it to come out on Netflix coming up this week The 25th gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see Travis's mustache as well as big head roaming around there And also freaking come on the Sandman shooter McGavin. Happy Gilmore giving it another run. Let's go, baby Let's go next but a new news by the time this airs training camp has officially started for the Kansas City Chiefs. Trav, how we feeling buddy? Going on a ready to rock and roll baby 13. That's when I called it a rap.

13 lucky number was a lucky number. Yeah, maybe that was a good number for you, Jason. You're 13 and on your hockey jerseys and baseball jerseys growing up. And you guys open up on Friday, right? Yeah, we're Friday night in Sao Paulo. Friday the 13th season, Friday the 13th for Travis Kelsey. Just go with it. I don't think, all right, I'll go with it.

It's not the 13th for those who wanna watch the game. No, but it's the 13th for you, so it's kinda like Friday the 13th. No, feeling good. I'm ready to rock and roll, man. I'm ready to get this ball rolling. I've been saying it. It's kind of ironic. I'm going to be at beautiful St.

Joe, Missouri, Missouri Western State University for the 13th year of my career. And I will I will officially have been able to say that I've spent a year in in the dorm rooms rooms at Missouri Western for a year of my life. I've spent an entire 13 years and three weeks in every single year leading up to this season. So that basically is, yeah, an entire year of my life in dorm rooms in a college that I've never even applied to. I think it's kind of, I mean, it's my sanctuary, really. It's my sanctuary. It's where I like flip the switch

and kind of turn it to the football mode and I eat, breathe and sleep football there and it kind of gets me ready for the season. So I'm excited to get there. Everybody at Sey Jo is always amazing. They really roll out the red carpet out there and yeah, I'm ready to rock and roll, man. Anything else you feel worth sharing of St. Joe?

No, man. I just like I said, I eat, breathe and sleep football. I just I put my phone down. I really don't answer any texts or any calls. And yeah, I just think about, you know, my craft. All right. Perfect. Well, there's somebody that is excited about St. Joe's as well. And his name is Patrick Mah St. Joe's as well. And

his name is Patrick Mahomes said about the upcoming season. You know, I'm honestly just ready to play football again. Whenever you lose, you kind of have this taste in your mouth and you want to get back out there and avenge that or whatever you want to say. But at the same time, I feel like I've had to sit back and just listen to people talk and talk and I'm just ready to play football and handle it all out there. Sounds like somebody's pretty fired up to get back out there. What about you, Trav? How do you feel? I think we're all along those lines, man. Yeah, I don't think you would play that game 10 times. That's the outcome. I

will say the Eagles got the better of us. But at the same time, this year, we got a lot of really good players coming back. We got a lot of guys that we're looking to take that next step in terms of their accountability and being playmakers in the league. And sure enough, we kind of remolded the offense and defensive lines. And I'm just fired up to get this thing running. I think in training camp, it's such a beautiful thing because you start to see how guys react when they're tired because you start to see how guys react when

they're tired. You start to see how guys grind and you start to see how guys kind of mold themselves into their role on the team. And I'm excited to see who steps up and the team that we're able to shape going into the season, man. It's always a fun time in training camp knowing that everyone's there to work their ass off and try and make this team. For sure.

And I mean, especially, I love training camp, especially now that I don't have to practice in it. I just get to go and watch and work with the guys. Yeah. I don't gotta put them pads on, just go out there, hey, let's do a little mirror drill, let's get warmed up. All right, come on. I'm looking forward to getting out there.

There's something about like the the energy in the air for the started training camp is like so infectious because everybody's been waiting to get back out there, especially the first day in pads, right? You're there. So you can all of your senses are heightened. You can smell the grass. You can you can feel the pads on your shoulder, the water in the sweat dripping down your back There's like something about it like the first time you put all that back on that It just lets you know that football season is here I can't wait to go to the Eagles training camp work with some of these offense alignments See what the team's looking like get back around the guys. There's a lot of energy for both teams, right?

Obviously Kansas City and the Eagles coming off of the Super Bowl Expectations are high again. What else more would you want? And in Philly, we got some new pieces coming in. There's a position on the offensive line that's going to have some competition for it. So I look forward to watching that in particular. Got some new pieces on defense. I always love training camp. I know that it's one of those things that's like love hate because you know it's difficult and you know how challenging it's going to be. But when you're a competitor and you love the sport, even though that's

challenging, hopefully you have that on mute when you're in training camp, Travis. And if I don't, what's top velvet gonna do? Turn that shit off. Dude, there was one time and I think the story is already out there. There was one training camp where I, uh, my phone went off like that. And it used to be a really, really obnoxious, um, screaming

sound of R2D2 in star wars. Yeah. I don't, I don't know if you remember my phone having this alarm or this phone call. For sure, I definitely remember it. What do you see from here? There. It was iconic.

It was literally the most annoying sound in the world. Yeah. Yeah. That thing went off in a team meeting and Coach Reed is the one talking. Yeah. It's like, it's one thing if it's like an install or like somebody else is talking, but no, the big man is talking to the entire team. Yeah.

Everybody's doing the cough to try and hide. You can't hide that one. Can't hide R2D2. But I used to do it because I was such a heavy sleeper and I would sleep through my alarm sometimes. So I would made it the most annoying loud sound. So I would just get up and like, I would be awake from that point on. And then I started fiddling with it too, too fast. And I'm like trying I'm like terrified at this point. I'm like, don't look up and I'm like trying to stop it

and it won't stop. So I just get up in the middle of the TV room, go down the aisle, out the door and just fucking chuck it as far as I can hear You just hear it bouncing off the floor the wall that is the then it finally stops. And then I walk back to the seat just like head down just like fucking don't even look at don't even look at him don't even look at him and just sit down. And I think I heard him chuckle. Like that was the most ridiculous way to handle that. I mean, that's a funny ass thing to do. And if I was a coach, I'd be like, all right, he gets it.

He gets it. Yeah. He made a mistake. He's good to go though. Dude, that's fucking amazing. I haven't had that rager ever since, just in case that happened. That was... Dude, that's a solid one.

It would have then just reminded me of that moment of embarrassment. It is a, it's a tough one. How do you get guys off the phones? Cause now everybody's on the phones, right? And the coaches have difficulty keeping guys off the phones and meetings. What? Nobody's in the phones. Come on now. Don't give me this. This motherfucker. You're not in the phones and meeting with Tom Melvin. No, I don't. All right. Good. No, that's good. That's good meeting with Tom. No, I don't. All right. Good. No, that's good.

That's good. Once every blooming. Yeah. All right. We always throw the phones out there. I'm talking like mid mid season meeting after the after the practice. Like I'll be in there while we're watching practice that I already just saying the same thing and I've seen it.

Yeah, I might have. I might just kind of peek at the phone and answer a text. Yeah, I'm not searching shit and like looking at in the Bruce Golan through Instagram or anything. Listen, good for you. Good for you. I'm just saying people do do that. I'm not accusations of anybody.

People do that. No, it's all good. The way stout discourages people looking at the phone is called a cold calling. It's one of his like signature things that he calls it. I think he learned it from like some teaching class or something. At any moment, if he suspects anybody's looking at their phone or they're not paying attention, they're starting to nod off, he'll hit them with a question. But he'll ask the question first and then say the name.

That's a very important distinction. He doesn't say, Hey, Travis, what is the why have on such a such a such? He'll be like, all right, what's the why got on a 74 per section Travis? And there's like, Oh shit. Now, once you cause if you hear your name first, then you're locked in. Boom. But if you hear your name after the question, it's like, Oh shit, I better have heard that whole thing catches guys all the time and then you got to stay locked in. I wouldn But you hear your name after the question. It's like, Oh shit, I better have heard that whole thing catches guys all the time. And then you got to stay locked in.

I wouldn't phase me. I'd own that all day. Dude, my favorite used to be landing over there in the corner. Don't do landing like this. Well, landing smart as fuck. I'm not doing landing like this. Landing smart as fuck. One of the smartest guys ever played. He plays a dumb ass on social media and whatnot. He's a big goofy son of a bitch. That dude is dialed in. He knows his assignment. You ain't fucking catching him. But every once in a while, he's looking at lawnmowers in the middle of the meeting or fucking...

Got to get that zero turn. He's looking at fucking auto trader or something like that or whatever the fuck it is. That's a good fucking magazine right there. And Stout will hit him with a cold call. He's like, oh, yeah, you got it. He's like, yeah, I got you, motherfucker. It's so good. The cold calling sure fire away to keep guys locked in.

Tommy, Tom's going to be cold calling my sorry. Yeah. Oh, it's really Tom. Hit him with the cold calls. Can't get me, Tom. You know, you can't. All right. That does it for a training camp. You know you can't. All right. That does it for Training Camp New News brought to you by American Express. Will this season feel any different without the executive director of the NFL?

Lloyd Howe. Is that who I thought it was the PA? Yeah, it's supposed to be a sorry. I copied and pasted something weird. I'll find a picture of him. Yeah, I know who this is. Do you want to talk about it or not? I mean, I do. I think I mean, it's unfortunate for those of you Yeah, I know who this is. Do you want to talk about it or not? I mean, I do.

I think I mean, it's unfortunate for those of you that don't know Lloyd Howe, the NFL PA's executive director was like, I guess he resigned technically, right? Is that right? Brandon Brandon? Is he resigned or was it resigned last night? Brian last night as of this recording, he resigned Thursday night was discovered that he and maybe other employees. I don't really know the full parameters of this.

I don't want to. I also don't want to get a lot of things thrown my way. There was a report. I'm not saying it's true or not. I have no idea of whether it's true. Jason, it's on ESPN. There was a report out there that they were spending, they were using the company card of the NFLPA on strip club visits and holding business meetings there.

And, um, apparently you can't do that. It's against company policy. How do you feel about that? Jason, do you think you should be able to? All right. Here's the official thing. All right. This is from, uh, ESPN,. A solid establishment. No few people there. Former NFL PA leader, Lloyd Howell Jr. resigned after an outside investigator hired by the union. So somebody with inside the union, ratted him out. Man, that's fucked up. All right. Received documents this week showing he charged the union for two visits to strip clubs including a

seven hundred and thirty eight point eight two dollar car service that took him from the airport to one of the clubs that's an expensive car service right how much is a car service he got he was the car limousine the cars first stop was at a nearby Miami Gardens address. The receipt shows only one other stop nearly eight hours later. Bro, why are you putting this on the company card? What are we doing?

The employees Googled the Miami Gardens address and discovered it was Tootsie's Cabaret, which I've not been, but I have heard great things of that establishment. It's a 76,000 square foot venue that bills itself as the world's largest strip club in quotes full nude, number one rated. I mean, it sounds like a good establishment. I mean,

to be fair, I've heard the I've heard the wings are good there. Like everyone loves the wings there. During this year's NFLPA Summit on February 21st, Hal accompanied two union employees to the Magic City strip club for an outing that included $2,426 in charges including cash withdrawals ranging from $200 to $525 from a club ATM. Sources and documents show they used to VIP rooms. Well, I mean the VIP rooms is where you get me because listen, this is the only thing I want to was it being used for business expense or not if it was being used and business was

happening. I don't see what the issue is. I mean, they're conducting business, right? What was the business? NFLPA business. I don't know what the business is. It says it right here. The strip club outing was going to the expense report the purpose of the strip club outing What was the business? I don't know. NFLPA business. I don't know what the business is. It says it right here.

The strip club outing was used to the expense report. The purpose of the strip club outing player engagement event to support and grow our union. I'm going to be honest. There's not a lot of engagement that happens with the players union. It's hard to get guys to go to meetings and get involved. Having a meeting at Tootsies might is not a bad idea to improve engagement. You're probably going gonna get more players to the VIP room. Well, that's where you lose you can get their attention.

Well, you can't have too much business if you're in a one on one VIP room. It's a bold idea to create more engagement by Mr. Howe and it backfired. You got to use the reference. What you said earlier. Yeah, Applebee's or the strip club. If there it doesn't matter what you want. I mean, you go to Applebee's at the business expense.

You go to the strip club and you get wings. It's I don't see why it's much different. I mean, we're all 21 here, right? But I don't have a VIP room at the Applebee's where you sit there for all by yourself. This can't bode well for upcoming contract negotiations with the league. It's funny that this is what. Then this is what the players pay for. This is like, yeah, this he's using the NFL PA's money for these expenses.

And it's just it's hilarious that, you know, the mad and checks go there. Yeah, we pay our dues to the union. And this is what it's being used for. Wings. It's being used for wings. I mean, a VIP room. I'm just saying also play your engagement. You saw it right there on the report.

There was company morale is a big thing and improving them. The PA needs to improve their morale. There's not a lot of excitement when you talk about collective bargaining agreements. So you have I don't know. I mean, you have some wings. They might not have even known to choose a strip club. Maybe they thought they were going to a restaurant.

I don't know what who knows what they knew. I mean, they probably knew when they walked in. They knew before they walked. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. If they actually were were if they actually got Focus, I mean what if they had like laptops out and like we're like crunching numbers There were crunching numbers and in between the numbers who are going over to the ATM

Excuse me. Could you put this up on the display? Bambi, if you could please move to the side. I just want to show that guaranteed contracts is a potential for the future of the NFL. Bambi, lower, don't lower, lower Bambi, lower, lower. All right. You can see right here from my graph that if we just hold out

for two to three weeks that's X amount of money the NFL is gonna incur an expense baby move your tits I'm trying to show my graph That word. Have I gone too far? Have I gone too far with this? Oh, gosh. I'm trying to show my graph. Somebody please give Bambi $200 so I can get her off the stage and show my graph. We don't know what's going on in that building.

It's so ridiculous. It's pretty absurd. It's not good. Oh, man. I don't really know what else to say. We just I guess now we got to figure out a new executive director. We got to get out of this. What's the next thing we can spend on a corporate card as the NFLPA to be more ridiculous? Well, thank you for that, Jason.

Let's get to some more ridiculous. Well, thank you for that, Jason. Let's get to some fan mentions. Jason, you are shirtless yet again. The irony is so good. Jason shirtless is now a lawn art. Thank you to garage beer. It's pretty sick. Pretty. It's actually really sick.

I don't know. It kind of blows my mind. Like how? So it's actually not even he's not even mowing the lawn. Apparently he like blows it and it like turns in different directions or something like that. I don't really fully understand it. Why?

He made it seem like there's like a specific machine that helps with this. I don't really fully understand any of it. To be honest with you, I've only seen like the outfield at Jacob's field or like progressive field where it's like Cut in like angles and stuff like that. Yeah. Oh, this is crazy Yeah, how does he do this? I don't know. No, he's mowing it. I'm telling you He I I have been in contact personally with the guy. It's like he is on a mower right now. Moe's not a mower. It's like something that like blows the grass in specific ways.

I don't fully understand. He's got a computer on this thing that is basically like blowing the grass a certain way as he goes over it. I don't even know. I have no idea what this technology is. For all I know, the same technology that built the pyramids, I have no fucking clue what this is or how he did it. It's an epic video that I just watched right there.

Yeah. It's pretty remarkable. Yeah. Do you understand how proud I am to be the reason that you did this ridiculous promise? I feel so seen. Well, this is this is what this is what my dream was always to make human beings do this excited like this. Yeah. Just get this fucking hype about my performance.

Well, you've been doing it for years. You've been doing it for years. Travis. Thank you. This combined with drinking for an entire six hours of Bill's Mafia before the game got me real excited. There you go. That was a fucking really fun day. No, that's awesome.

Also the first time I met your girlfriend. So that was, it was an all-timer. Oh nice, that was then. Alrighty, we got an update for Jets Jake tattoo. How about this? Oh! It's official. There's somebody that is going to be getting

a pinup tattoo of Jets Jake. It's been booked for next Thursday. According to this, hopefully no one else gets it before then. And shout out to the boys and Brandon for confirming they were serious. We'll post the pic as soon as it's done. I cannot wait. Next Thursday, this is posted, not today,

probably yesterday or a couple of days ago. So it'll be done by next week. Yeah. Cannot wait to see what this looks like. Anyone else looking to get a gift? Jake, that too, you are officially on the clock. You got to Thursday. Jake, how are you feeling about this?

What do you think your pinup tattoo is going to be? First off, this is fucking bizarre. I have some ideas. You have ideas. I hope it includes something with the Jets, of course, naturally, and a hobby horse. Those are my two components that I would love this tattoo comprised of. A hobby horse would be a nice little touch.

I'm sure that would make my family a bit more comfortable with this idea. I do think it's this is fuck. It's weird. It's fucking weird. I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it's going to be weird. Jake, don't don't think it's weird. You're the one that retweeted the first one. That's right. Tweeted the first one. Your hands were the ones that retweeted the first one.

You did this. This is true. This is all my fault. I will say it's also like it's a it's a little flattering. Like I am kind of honored. That it's a it's a little flattering. Like I am kind of honored. That's it's it's. So it is. I'm not going to let I feel I'm I'm I'm staying with some buddies this week because our friends just got engaged.

Shout out to Frankie and Josh. But everyone is just making fun of me relentlessly for the fact that this is happening. So they're keeping me humble, but I'm going to say it's very flattering. I feel like there's got to be something with social media on it as well. Like maybe like Twitter bird, little Twitter bird. Yeah, Twitter bird. Yeah, Twitter bird tattoo. Do you have any Instagram tattoo?

I have no tattoos. I think I'm not going to get a tattoo of this person. That would be that's this is not like a one to one trade off scenario. That's fair. Yeah. I would if we can come up, I shouldn't say this on air. No, you should. You're about to say you're willing to get a tattoo. I if we if we come up with like the right type of bet down the line years

from that, like this is a season four problem, you know, when we come back next season, we could workshop some some tattoo ideas. But I might have Adrian out of the podcast. I immediately regret saying that, but we'll we'll see. No, no, it's on it's on camera. It's on camera now. It's on camera. Yeah. So we now we know. Good to know. Yeah. All right.

Well, you know, we love the 92 percenters. It's very that's the best fans in the world. So I'm do you think the person willing to get this tattoo is male or female? I I believe it's a male, but I would be I don't know what's worse. Musical airman, musical airman. They get pinups. That's how pinups were started. It was like a military thing. I mean, listen, heman musical airman. They get pinups. That's how pinups were started. It was like a military thing. I mean, listen, he's an airman.

He probably likes jets. Maybe this might be the sickest one of all of us, dude. Travis has an accelerator can. I don't even remember what mine is again. What was mine was? I forget the eagle. You had the eagle, dude. Yeah, your bald eagle.

You're bald eagle. For the Jets, a life and for the Giants fan, do you want a small plane or do you want like a B 52 bomber? Like what kind of plane is seven fifty seven down there? I think a modest sleeve size plane is perfectly fine. All right. All right. This. Yeah.

Thanks, guys. I hope multiple people don't do this. This is the one person is plenty. Shout out to him or her. We'll see if somebody tries to beat him to the punch. Jesus. All right. Thanks, guys.

All right. Now in a bakery slid into our DMS. How about that? Bakes cakes in Iowa or I'm sorry, Ottawa, Ottawa, Kansas. There's an Ottawa, Kansas. Oh yeah. Never heard of it. Okay, cool.

Ottawa, Kansas. There's a bakery called Bakes Cakes. Super creative. Turn our favorite into a cupcake. That's right. You got to try these out, Trev. Two of my favorite flavors. I could use one right now as I'm yawning, man.

I haven't gotten any down here in Florida since I'm down here right now. Not gonna lie. They look very good. Is it, it's in the icing too? I'm not a big icing guy, but if it's got caffeine in it. I kind of talked about this on Kylie's podcast Instagram. I like cream cheese frosting. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of frostings.

I like cream cheese frosting. And I like chantilly. Have you ever had the chantilly berry cake from Whole Foods? No, the frosting on that motherfucker is it's insane. It's so good. It's light. It's airy. It's not too much Fantastic cake. It really is the frosting can get a little thick but I'm with you It's easy to mess that stuff up. I really don't like a lot of times the cakes that are

Super artistic because many times I find that frosting to be similar to like wax. You know, it's like I like hold it's like position. It's not the right texture or taste. Yeah. Well, this being said, I used to eat frosting out of the tube when my mother, so I digress. Shout out to Bakes Cakes over there in Kansas. Yeah. Shout out to Accelerator. God, I could use one right now. Heaven Withdrawals. Let's keep the same movement to some new heights film club. Yeah, that's right.

For the season finale of new heights film club. We watched the 1990s classic pretty woman. Yes, sir. Oh, Julia Roberts, Richard gear, gear, not greer the entire time. My entire life, I've been thinking it was Greer. And it's not. Yep. No, same here. It's gear. And they absolutely killed it. I thought it was a fantastic movie.

I enjoyed every bit of it. I I'm not going to lie. When we first started, I really didn't know that it was about her being a hooker. Yeah. No, that was a surprise. Right. I didn't know Julia Roberts signed up for that one. But I mean, it is a very it's a it's a it's a fun movie to follow along with. It's the world's oldest profession, Travis. It's a tale as old as time.

I thought this movie was fantastic. I really did. I loved it. It's got all the themes and things that I hold true and like all wrapped up into one. Who like what, like what? I really like how it shows the difference in classes and like what people. The stereotype.

Well, not even stereotypes, just like people from different worlds and what they know and understand and why like people aren't necessarily better in lower class societies or upper class societies. Like right away you get to the thing where you have this billionaire businessman who has all the power in the world. He has everything you could ever want.

He's led you to believe like he's very smart to get to this position. But he can't even drive a car. He struggled to do the stick shift. He has no idea where he's going, where he's going. He has no idea how to get to where he wants to go. He pulled over side of the road and he doesn't even know he's talking to a hooker on Hollywood Boulevard. Like, clearly, there's an emphasis to show that this guy has zero street

smarts whatsoever because he's never been on the streets. Right. Yeah. And Julia Roberts right away throughout the film, you see her clever, cunning way of talking to people unfiltered, not protective of what she is. She says she was laughing so hard, she almost pissed herself at the opera. Like, she's very unapologetically who she is. There's no barrier to try and hide that because she doesn't care what people think of her. And then at the same time, she struggles to know anything that's happening on the other side

with the cutlery and she's amazed at the hotels. The hotels, yeah, the hotel room. The jewelry, like she's exposed to a whole other world. And I think throughout the movie, they do a good job of basically saying that like neither world is better than the other in a lot of ways. They just are different and people come from different ones. And people are really all the same. And they draw that comparison with them literally saying like, I'm not any different than you, Edward. I fucked people over for money and like, yada, yada, yada, whatever that line was, right? Right. There's also some really sneaky ways they did this, too, with like,

I thought a very subtle one of like showing generational divides, like when they're having dinner with the Morris dad and son, right? Mm hmm. And she just learned what fork is what and she finds out they're not having a salad. So she doesn't know what fork to use. The younger son, who probably has only known wealth because his father built this entire empire, is almost like laughing and surprised that she doesn't know what fork to use. But the father who built the entire empire, who probably came from nothing, admits himself that he forgets sometimes what fork to use. I think it's very true that people that grow up

in their own worlds don't have frames of reference or know people from these other worlds. And it's easy to judge them. And I think they do a great job of showing people that have been a part of both of those worlds of like high class society, and working class or low class society. They treat people differently, right? And they treat those that are different than them. And you see it in the hotel management, right? Like my favorite character in the entire movie is Barney. He kills it. The hotel manager right from the get go. That scene where you are Mr. Edwards niece. That is just such a fantastic scene right there. But how he treats And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story. And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story. And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story. And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story.

And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story. And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story. And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story. And I think that's the only thing that's going to be a big part of the story. And I think that's the only thing that's going to let go of something so beautiful, isn't it? Yep. By the way, by the way, he knows where she is. Daryl sent her home yesterday. Wink, wink. But yeah, I think there's some iconic lines throughout the movie. But I really loved how they did that. And it's really, you know, it's very Cinderella, Cinderella.

E. You know, you have this this prostitute that is in unfortunate circumstances due to partly because of who she is. And then also, a lot of themes of raising kids to believe they can actually achieve in the world. A lot of that came in really at the end when she starts talking about how her mother used to tell her she is drawn to bums and she's always going to be with bums to all of a sudden she's telling Kit, you know, hey, hey, we think you got a lot of potential kid and don't let don't let anyone tell you any different. Right? There's yeah. And it really ends on the guy walking down the street saying this is Hollywood

where dreams come true, baby. Don't stop dreaming or whatever that line is. And it's such a great way to end the film. And yeah, you'd be surprised on what you'd get out of some of those walking down the street, the line between, uh, her and Edward, whether lying there, it's earlier in the film. She says, uh, you know, people put you down enough. You start to believe it. He follows it film. She says, you know, people put you down enough, you start to believe it. He follows it up with a compliment, you know, reaffirming her how

beautiful she is and how bright she is. And then she can do anything she wants to do. And she follows it up with well, the bad stuff is easier to believe. So it's just like there's constantly these themes of, of high class, low class, and people dreaming to achieve. And I don't know, it's all brought together really, really well. All through the construct of love and I thought it was just really well done. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. One of my favorite scenes was the polo scene.

The polo scene was dope where the younger Morris, he catches her talking to talking to him over on the side and he's kind of like starting to feel like you know what I mean like that's my lady yeah that's my woman why is she why is she over there having seemingly to have a like she's having a good time talking to this young handsome boy what is that all about yeah what is this and then uh and then he let George Costanza fucking get the better of him to George Costanza. What a piece of shit. You can't be that fun to watch in Seinfeld. That shitty of a character in another movie like that was I didn't see that one coming.

I thought he did a great job. He nailed the role. Absolutely nailed it. Yeah, Jason Alexander killed that role, but sorry, Jason. I called George to I mean, it's it's hard to iconic Yeah, he was a great a piece of shit And the best way possible. Yeah, I agree That was a really fun and then they come back and they have the argument and then he tells her why he's upset with

Her is because I saw you talking to this other guy. It's like well, I mean that's childish and jealousy But that also is letting her know that's like, oh, he, he wants me. You know what I mean? Like he wants to be with me. So a little bit of jealousy. Good thing. I mean, you start being a little bit too jealous. Then we got some issues, but you got to have some faith in your partner. Getting jealous and getting upset and being mad and telling your best friend that you're a hooker. Like that's not, that's not how far you want to take it. We have to control these emotions, Mr. Greer.

Here, Mr. Geer, Mr. Geer. I love the ending of it. You know, she she lays out like she's always had the dream of the knight in shining armor, climbing the tower. Old San Francisco not being put up in a condo. And then all of a sudden, at the end of it, he's climbing the stairs of the section eight housing to save her from the circumstances that she's been dealt Because he loves her. Yeah, he's afraid of heights. Yeah, he braves up dude I left Kylie in the ocean because of the sharks. I don't know if I'm as good as Edward is apparently I got a fucking I'll tell you what though if I actually thought she was in danger

I wouldn't have actually I didn't think she was in if I actually thought she was in danger. I would Actually, I didn't think she was in it. I thought I was in danger. No, I was just terrified. I didn't think I was in danger That's the difference. Well, what's it? There is a difference. I didn't think I was there. I just started getting worried about the sharks I didn't think she was actually in danger Otherwise, I get I would have said if Kylie fell into shark infested water, I would jump in I fucking She was 1000% in shark She was away from the shark shark was all the way over here and it wasn't like in it wasn't Yeah, it wasn't even being if you could see

No, if I saw the like I if I would have saw the shark fin next to Kai I would have went towards what do you mean? But there was towards what no no has to be around her It was in a completely different vicinity of this water Jason, you know the shark was already close enough to you to where you got out of the thing Was way behind me I promise you only Kylie has to believe you just remember only she has to believe you I promise you. Only Kylie has to believe you. Just remember that. Only she has to believe you. A quarter million dollar necklace?

Like what the fuck? Where does it even get? Have you ever seen something like that? Never. I like what kind of, how many stones you got to pile on top of something? They'd be a quarter million. Especially back then.

I mean, you did inflation. That's like a fucking million dollar necklace nowadays. Jesus Christ. Yeah, a lot of great side care. All these supporting actors and actresses did a great job. Kit was a great role in what she was. And even though she was holding Julia Roberts back, a terrible friend, really just in some ways you loved her

and appreciated who she was. Jason Alexander, we already talked about him being a piece of shit. Great actor, a bad piece of shit. Barney, sorry Barney, don't know your actual name. I mean he's been in a lot of those. Like Romcoms and 90s, like this role, he really freaking just nails.

Fucking crushes it. The shopkeeper, the guy that they go to to treat yourself right before the Pretty Woman montage. he's in a lot of those movies, too. He does a great job. The bellhop operating the elevator. Kind of just, you know, all like I don't know that he has any spoken lines. A lot of it is just nonverbal with eyes and stuff. Does a great job, I think.

Out of the other movies that we've we've watched. Julia Roberts actually earned a Golden Globe Award for Best Actress in this movie in addition to her first nominations for the Academy Award for Best Actress and BAFTA Award for Best Actress in a leading role. So she I mean, obviously she killed it. But this was like one of her like first like come out roles. Yeah. And I don't know what she did before this. But I say this being a very happily married man that she is a pretty woman in this movie. I mean, and

she kills it. She the acting is great. She has like the accent she she does a great job during multiple Of the scenes delivering the lines and I don't know. I just really enjoyed it It's right up there with probably my favorite romance movie. I probably have ever seen which is a low As a short list. Yeah, like this isn't even a rom-com. This is just straight Romance from start to finish really you didn't think it was that fun. I think there were funny parts of it Yeah, but I wouldn't say it's like a rom-com. I don't know. It doesn't, it wasn't like supposed to be funny

to the extent that I would call this a rom-com. This is just pretty much a romance film to me. I think it's a rom-com, but I also don't think it's a rated R movie. Dude, there's some scenes with, where he's like going down the chest on the piano. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? There's some scenes with where he's like running going down the chest on the piano. Oh, yeah. You know, there's some there's some lingerie scenes that are a little aggressive for the PG-13.

Yes, I think he swears in the movie. Maybe it would be PG-13 if it was done today. Yeah, I guess you're right. I forgot some of those scenes in the room. The tie scene when he's been off of work comes back just as the tie on. Listen, that's a hell of a welcome home. Pretty Woman fan mentioned whenever they review Pretty Woman, be sure to mention get their reaction to the fact that when Julie signed on for the role, the movie was originally a depressing drama where her character was a drug addict and gets left on the street.

So. It wasn't a romance movie at all. I want to know what the original script was. I don't. I don't want to know. I like it just the way it was. I like this where there's the happy ending because it all makes sense and fits my themes of the way I like hope and positivity to be the running theme of what people should aspire for and keep thinking I'm I'm an op I'm a glass half full guy I'm a glass half full guy that might be a little bit more realistic of an ending to be honest with you but I don't know you're a curious guy you want to see you want to see what it was before and Brandon has it right here for you the original screenplay was titled 3000 and it was written by the then struggling screenwriter,

uh, J.F. Lawton originally intended to be a dark cautionary tale about class and prostitution in Los Angeles. Hmm. Sounds terrible. Wow. They turned a complete 180 on that one. I mean, who knows if it would have been good, but it wasn't going to be this.

So basically everything I like about the movie was the exact opposite. Somebody put that in. Yeah, you have no hope. You can't move up in class. You're not as good as the other ones. You're going to end up like shit. if you end up doing the prostitution. This is reality. This isn't a fairy tale, Jason. Alright. Well, I'm glad they didn't do that one cuz I like I'm I'm a

sucker for good endings. Film Club PFF grades. Alright, plot. Let's get into it. Plot. Very unrealistic. I'll be honest. Very unrealistic. Especially in today's age for sure. Billionaire CEO falls for the prostitute. I mean, I mean, I think it's unreal. Who knows? Who knows? Probably happened. Who knows? Might have just happened with the former executive director of the NFLPA. Who knows? Might have just happened.

Might have just happened. The CEO, man, the CEO in Coldplay, you know, who knows? Well, that was that was the HR. That was an imposter to those. But that was his work wife, which unfortunately wasn't good. All right. They got shit on people. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's kind of deserve it.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Plot. I will say unrealistic plot, but I loved guiltily all the themes and everything that touched on it. I think they did a fantastic job. A lot of the lines delivered really hit me with like optimistic and hopeful values and

fighting off people that tell you you're not good enough. Almost like this Rocky Balboa type like mindset. VIVIEN BALBOA. Yeah. Vivien Balboa. Listen, that pretty woman montage might be the only thing better than a Balboa montage. All right. PFF grade plot. I'm going to go. It's a starting plot. It's a starting caliber plot. It's not an all pro plot. I'm gonna go 85. I'm gonna go 85.

85, I'm right there with you, 85. Acting, I thought it was through the roof. I didn't see one bad. I didn't see one bad scene. No, all. I thought at first it was like, but. A little corny, like a little bit like too polished. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. To be honest, I think I just enjoyed It was like, but a little corny, like a little bit like too polished. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. To be honest, I think I just enjoyed the following along the movie. I think for what it is, it's really good. There's a lot of emotional scenes that the actors all nail. It's not the most realistic. So it's hard to view acting as premiere when the it's a little kind of like Hollywoody, right? Like the movie is very Hollywoody in nature.

I think Julia killed it. Yeah. She crushed it. Killed it. All the supporting actors killed it. I don't think you could go with anything less than like a 90, 95. Like I'm in that range for this thing. I don't think I've got 95.

I've got 95. 95. Yeah. On screen chemistry. This is a new category that I have not seen. I don't think I'll go 95 other 95 95. Yeah on-screen chemistry This is a new category that I have not seen Although they were great together. It was good. I thought everybody everybody had good chemistry on there I thought they'd gear did a good job of playing kind of like the heartless Businessmen that comes around and he was like the Grinch throughout the whole film

He finally grew a heart and he makes the business. He was so less and for solace for a lot of this fucking thing. Sometimes it takes a good woman to bring that soul into you. There you go. So I'll go. I'll go. No woman is what it should have been called. All right.

90 90s fashion. I'm not going to lie. Seeing the montage and seeing her put on all those like fun 90s outfits. They were really like 80s, like 90s outfits. That's what I was about to say. That was my, that's exactly what I was going to say. This movie took place in 1990, which I really liked because there's actually themes from the 80s and 90s. Like there's a lot of attire that was really wasn't 90s, themes from the 80s and 90s. Like there's a lot of attire that was really wasn't 90s, there's more 80s. There's a lot of attire that was like forefront of where the 90s was going.

It was a cool like in between of what these stereotypes for both of those genres ended up being. I do think it skews more 90s in aesthetic, a little more 80s or what I think of 80s when it comes to the fashion. Yeah. Oh, nice music. Yeah. It had some like more like 80s ballad vibes as opposed to like the 90s stuff.

Nice. So 90s fashion. If we want to just do fashion. If we want to just do fashion. Yeah, we're just doing fashion. I'll say I thought the street clothes were more 80s. Like the the lower tier stuff was more 80s skewing to me. And the upscale stuff, everything that took place kind of the hotel that all felt more 90s II me. So I'll go I'll go 90s fashion. 75. Nice. feminism. I was what what what what score do you think it gets on the feminism chart?

This is what there's so there were a lot of people saying this movie is very misogynistic. I'll be honest, I am not good at this topic. I don't know. I think the only way to gauge it is to flip the script. I think we need to make pretty man. Pretty man. And we need to have a CEO billionaire woman be so high class that she doesn't know where she's going. Travis, you're basically, you're living pretty man right now. You are pretty man.

You're living your own Julia Roberts straight. I'm wearing nothing but a tie when Taylor comes home. Oh, my gosh. That's funny. Oh, man. You can't beat it, man. That's why we did Julia Roberts when I met Julia. We felt like we were the same person. So cool.

She spoke to me in this movie. Holy shit. All right. She spoke to me in this movie. Holy shit. All right now. It's all I'm just an NFL stripper. That's it. Just an NFL hooker, man. I mean, I'm the one who's stripping over at the ocean drive, I guess.

I guess there is definitely there's definitely a healthy dose of rich, successful businessmen lifting the woman out of poverty and helping her achieve her dreams. There's some really bad parts, but I feel like it comes back to the, I actually think it does a great job of correlating how similar the two people are in the movie, like in actuality of how they operate, like the role of prostitution, the role of what he does from a business standpoint. I'm dead serious. You gave all the grades,

you gotta give a feminism grade. I'm not giving a feminism grade. This is a trap for all these feminists to get all pissed off at me. I don't know. Brandon, you're a piece of shit for that. I'm not knowledgeable enough. I'm not knowledgeable enough in feminism.

I had him, I had him, I had him. Brandon, Brandon, you can give the feminism score. You can give the feminism score. Now you have to give it to him, because we need a fifth. Don't put me, nobody wants to hear my opinion. Everybody wants to hear Brandon's opinion. I give it a hundred. A hundred, all right, a hundred.

A hundred on the feminism. You know what I think the score is? Whatever the wonderful lady is listening to this, I think it's exactly what you're thinking. Ooh, nice. Flip it, flip it. All right. Well, now we need to figure out the PFF grade, which we usually just add them and divide. We won't divide by five because we're not doing a feminism score.

PFF grade of 86 points. I feel like that's low. Let's take out the fashion, the fashion grade too. It can't be under a 90. This movie's fantastic to me. Don't do 90s fashion. Just do fashion. The fashion in this movie was fucking fashion. We're just going fashion. Don't just do strictly 90s because there's

80s elements to it too. Yeah, I'll do 90. I'll go a 90 score. I'll go a 90 score. Yeah. That brings us up to about a 90. Yeah. It's like a 90. Exactly. Exactly. A little bit higher. It's it's it's like a 90. Yes, it's exactly. You're right. That's exactly. It's a little bit higher. It's like a 90. Yes, it's exactly. You're right. That's exactly. That's it for New Heights Film Club. I wanted to like recite lines from it. I had them written down.

I just like when there's like really good. I think I think I think you got all of them. All right. Now that does it for New Heights Film Club. Thank you guys for listening to another year. New Heights Film Club can't wait for next year. Hey, before we get to Baker, let's hit this Heights hotline. Thank you guys for listening to another year. New Heights Film Club can't wait for next year. Hey-o. Before we get to Baker, let's hit this Heights hotline though. The Heights hotline is brought to you by Audible.

Let's go ahead. Jason, I picked the last one. You can pick one. Can girls propose dating apps? First date idea? Let's put some feminists off. Can girls propose? Let's hear it.

We're on a roll today. Yeah. Hi guys. So my boyfriend and I of three years just decided to get married and we're planning it right now. But me and Vessie proposed to each other. So I was wondering if I were to propose to him

just like as a funny bit, how should I do it? And if we're to propose to him just like as a funny bit How should I do it and if guys like we propose to? All right You can you go back to the start of that today? She say they're already planning the wedding Is that what she started the fingers? Well, my boyfriend and I have three years Just decided to get married and we're planning it right now But neither of us proposed to each other. So I was wondering.

I don't know how this happened. They just decided to. Yeah. Just like as a fun bit. Sounds like a one-off situation. So your rules are different than everyone else's. So yeah. I don't think it's uncommon.

I don't think it's uncommon for like a couple to talk about like, hey, if we ever got married, like, would you want to do this or this? I think that's normal. But it sounds like they're full on already. They're planning to be married and planning, which does seem a little bit out of order to what the typical structure. Yeah, the traditional the traditional is the man proposes and then you start to make those kinds of decisions.

I think, I think you're too far past the proposal step at this point. You just gotta, you just gotta leave it there. Yeah, there's, I'll start with this. Can a woman propose? I think a woman can do whatever she wants. I'm not in here to say like, you know, it has to be a certain way.

There's all sorts of different relationship things that work for everybody. I do think though, that all four of your girls are going to be going up to random guys. Just, I do think that there are some, I do think by and large, there are some things that are very traditional and they're traditional for reasons. And like it happens in a certain way, because of like commitments and I think that some of those roles have been in place for such a long time and they changed a lot and they changed over

time for sure well there's nothing wrong with a lot of them have changed but I don't think there's anything wrong with the man proposing and that being the standard of two people agreeing to spend the rest of your life together and I also don't think it's wrong to ask the parents hand. I know that that's out of like what's considered the norm now, maybe. And it used to be just as the father. I do. I mean, just as both parents. But I think there's nothing wrong with that. If that's what you want to do.

It sounds like to me, though, this guy might think that they've kind of already done that. Maybe like, you know, I mean, I wonder because she knows he's not going to, I think she's asked her. She's like, I think he forgot to do this one step. Like maybe he thinks he kind of did it, but he didn't. I would just drop hints like, Oh man, it's like, yeah, like it'll be really interesting to see how you're going to propose whenever that like just do something like that and kind of see what happens. Yeah, start a fight.

What the response is. Instigate it. It sounds like she feels like she should be proposed to. If this sounds like your wife. Go and propose to her. I think that does it. Yeah, we would love to know how this resolves itself. So please, caller, please call us back when you get a final update on said proposal, whether you do it, whether he does it. Yeah.

Sorry, we couldn't offer more help. Yeah, we got to know we got it. We might have helped might get the train rolling. There's certain things I think are just like so traditional done a certain way that like, if they don't't happen that way a lot of the times I feel like it's a little cause for like concern in my end but I realize everybody's different everybody has their own things each his own I got a sweaty ass right armpit everybody's kind of got their own stuff that they're dealing with so yeah and that's it for New Heights Hotline brought to you by Audible. Now let's get to our convo with the amazing, the hilarious, one of the best personalities in the National Football League, Baker Mayfield. Yeah.

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The number one overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft, two-time Pro Bowler and the starting quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yes, sir. 92 pretenders, please welcome Mr. Baker Mayfield. My dog. Shake and bake, he's here, we got him. I finally got my guy., watch out Bruce buffer.

That was quite the intro there. I'm coming. Oh, yeah. Thanks. Thanks for fucking joining us, dude. Taking some time off in the offseason brother. Absolutely. Let's talk a little 2025 bucks.

They're already probably in training camp. You know, what are you looking forward to this year with Tampa Bay? You know, I mean, we have all of our starters back on offense and we added some depth and a lot of the guys just because of last year had a lot of injuries on offense. Mike and Chris both went down. So just all the guys that had to play stepping up for us, we have a lot of depth. So we have everybody back that started and then we have everybody back that was playing

a lot for us. So I'm excited about that. And then just the new guys we added, we needed some help on defense, some new faces, some young guys. So there's a lot new energy guys talking shit at practice, which is fun. Oh, yeah. Always good. And Emeka Ibuka is an absolute stud. Okay. He's a real deal. Yeah. What do you what makes you say that? Okay, you know how you just can't teach guys leaving the ground to catch the ball. It's always grounded when he catches it, keeps moving.

There's yak potential out the wazoo there, but he's just so damn smart. And he's willing to block, willing to do everything we ask him to do. But then, I mean, we can plug and play him at any, any of the three receiver spots right now. It's, it's pretty exciting. Hell yeah.

I mean, if he can go up and get a ball, Andy's smart. That, I don't know what else you want in the receiver. I mean, goddamn, that's the two good traits right there. Exactly. That was one of Coach Reed's biggest things as I've been like through throughout my career, as we were like acquiring like skill position guys, or just like number one, number two, number three options, he was like, you get that three, three headed monster, three guys you can go

to, and man to man specifically was like, you get that three, three headed monster, three guys you can go to in man to man specifically, like be able to kind of pick and choose whichever matchup you like the most. That's where the offense really takes off and it's just it puts the defense in such a bind and then you add the two **** running backs you guys got. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, get out in there. You kidding me? Come on. No gloves, baby. Swagless gloves. Swagless wonder. Dude, but seriously though, that's one of the biggest things is keeping everybody healthy, obviously, but you get three headed

monster like that. You guys are going to put up some fucking big numbers. Yeah. And by the way, it helps when you get your all five of your starting alignment back to my goodness. I wanted to talk about this a little bit. You guys last year, I think if Chris Godwin doesn't get hurt and if Mike doesn't deal with the injuries he had, you guys were so well positioned, like you were peeking at the right moment. I think early on you guys were one of the best teams, but you just had the injuries. Like what is, what did you feel about you guys last year? Do you feel the same way? Are you guys almost hungry to finish unfinished business? Does that make sense?

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, obviously you mentioned that the injuries definitely didn't help us, but I feel like we're, we're built and we knew we were when we're healthy. We're built to compete against the Eagles Alliance. What we thought were the top contenders of the NFC and then obviously Washington kind of came out of nowhere, but we felt really, really good about our matchups. And so, um,ups and so yeah when you when you bring all those pieces back you bring the vets in the locker room Vita, Antoine, Levante some of these guys we have on defense that have been staple points for these guys for the last however many years like it's exciting so yeah yeah there's there's unfinished business and then you add in Hassan Reddick and he showed up

everybody made a big deal but he showed up he showed. He's a great guy too. Did he have the shimmer? I love dude. Haas was a, I was a big fan of him in Philly. I know it kind of ended sour and the last year is what it is, but he's a great personality. He's good to have in the room. And I know freaking Bowles is going to be figuring out different ways to utilize the guy with that kind of skill set. So the offensive line was great last year. The running game was great. I loved what you guys were doing offensively. And even just in the Eagles game, watching the different motions, how you guys attacked the flat, how you flooded different zones. I thought what you guys did offensively, what Cohen was doing was some of the most exciting

things in the NFL last year. How are you going to take this now with him leaving? You know, you got new OC Josh, what is it? Grizzard? Yeah. Grizzard. How are you going to take this next year? Like, what's going to change?

Yeah, I mean, there's there's been very minor changes in terminology, mostly just formation stuff. But I mean, he was in, he was in Miami for seven years, I think. And so his whole background is motioning to get Tyreek and some of these other guys open, how to beat cover to how to get Mike open, really is like his, it translates to that. Then you add in some of the gap schemes that we've been really good at and what they do did in Miami. And we kept our offensive line coaches. So they're doing the run game stuff as well.

So it's, I mean, it's still the motion base, like make the defense communicate, really see if we can make them one dimensional. If we get a beat on that, can we keep doing it over and over again until it fix it? Yeah, man, it was fun to watch. It really was all year long, except for when you're playing the Eagles,

that was not fun to watch. That was a frustrating game offensively for us to watch. But what has it been about you and Tampa? I mean, you've played well at times everywhere you've been, but in Tampa, it's really gone to that next level. What do you think has led to that? You know, this isn't to shit on the other teams and franchises. No, man, you already know.

You already know, man. You got to do it. But like when you step in and your GM and your head coach say, hey, just be you. After I've been told at every stop and everywhere I go, hey, you need to tone it down a little bit. You need to be a franchise quarterback. It's just not who I am. Like I wear my emotions on my sleeves. We've hung out. You guys know me. I'm going to talk shit. I'm going to do whatever. But when it's time to turn the lights on and go do something, I'm going to do it. So when I stepped into the building, they all told me to just be myself.

And so it's been not to say like comfortable, but it's felt like home since the beginning. And as a quarterback that's been through a little bit of a journey, you can't ask for anything else. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Well, talk about a guy that's being himself, man. Liam Cohen. He took a little bit of heat over there.

Do you? Oh, over there. Took a chance. took a chance. I heard through a lot of guys. He's a great dude, man. What did what was he for your career last year in Tampa? Unbelievable. And yeah, I love the end of death.

I still talk to him probably once every week. We stay in touch. He's just he was so instrumental. I mean, when I got to L.A., really the next level for me learning the game of football, whether it was him, McVeigh and Zach Robinson, all in that room together, and then obviously getting to spend more time with Liam last year, just the expectations of what the quarterback position demands of you and making sure we're all on the same page and doing all that. So he was unbelievable for me and, you know, the

trajectory of my career, but yeah, I just keep losing these offensive coordinators. I keep taking these fucking head coaching jobs. Hey, that's what happens when you're really good quarterback. They keep stealing those. They think they're the reason we all know. Dyson it up out there. They might be the reason. I don't know. You've been through a lot of different coaches, a lot of different OCs. What in your opinion is the most important thing when you have a new OC coming in to establish the offense?

You know, obviously you guys have been in this for a while. The egos, putting your ego to the side. How do I, how do I drop that? What does he really want to get done? And what do I feel comfortable with? You know, schematically to get done? And what do I feel comfortable with you know schematically wise? What do I know I want to have in there? But then also can I learn and get really good at what he wants to do? And so there's always meeting in the middle and it's you know there's old school coaching and then there's new guys that might be pushovers. There's somewhere in the middle there that you know transition for me the last couple years has been great whether it was Dave Canales, Liam and now

Grizz. So it's, there's somewhere in the middle where they get to know me, they understand that at a certain point, I'm not going to be like, I need this play, but I'm going to try and find a way to make it work. And so yeah, it's meeting in the middle, dropping the ego. Yeah. It feels like there's always that in between. It feels like with the play caller trying to do what he thinks is open or what he likes. And then at the same time of like, at the end of the day, the players have to execute it and they're the ones that have to feel comfortable. And that's definitely a two way street to navigate. And the best ones figure

it out. They know how to get the best out of the quarterback and how to get and attack the areas that they see for sure. And I think just having answers at the line of scrimmage. And I think that's something, you know, Tom Moore, bless his soul, he's still coaching with us. I mean, he's going on year 47, I think. 46 to 47, coaching in the NFL. He tells stories about Peyton Manning always being like,

okay, well, what if they do this? And he would always quiz them about having answers. And so I think that's another thing. The coordinator trusting the quarterback enough to give them answers and allow them at the line of scrimmage to make adjustments. And that's a big deal. But then talking through it with the rest of the group

so they're not completely caught off guard. Like, hey guys, if we get this, I'm gonna check to this. Yeah, I had an offensive coordinator once describe play calling should be like if then statements. Where it's like, if the defense does this, then we do this. And when you have a quarter, the trick is having a quarterback that can read and identify and know what they want to get into that are familiar, especially in the run game, like those decisions that have to be made, not all the time, the quarterbacks are in tune with that. How much freedom do you get in Tampa? Like what is, are you changing route concepts,

protections, run, are you doing all of it? Or is there like kind of like a system within you and, what is it, Bart in the center or the other coaches on game day? How does that work? Yeah, so I mean, the system we're in normally always comes in with the two calls. And so obviously taking the best look, best advantage, whether it's run to

run, run to pass, pass to run. So whatever it is, making sure we have that but then Grizz will give me command to be able to check to the screen. Yeah, just get out of it. We always have cover zero answers, all that stuff built into the plan. But a big part of that when you asked about Graham Barton and I just watching film, all the blitz pickup meetings that QB's and centers the O line has to do throughout the week But just making sure that we're on the same page and that's like you said It's the players have to make it work

And so if he sees something before me he'll turn around and say hey do you want to get to this and then if not? Then I'll be able to move it around. But yeah, it's it's making sure all on the same page. Love it Oh, yeah going up against a guy like Todd Bowles and Levante David, man, the guy just understands offensive schemes. They're always well planned. Well, they always have like that extra, you know, take of like what we're trying to do. How crazy is it going up against those two

and like a practice or a training camp? The competition has to be through the roof. Are you and Levante, are you guys talking shit to each other the whole time or what? I mean, Tay doesn't say anything, so I would love to, but when we practice against our defense, I'm like, this is absolute bullshit. They're showing a single high look

with the safety in between the hashes. They're bringing double cat and rolling that safety three yards into that. I'm like, you guys will never do that in a game. What are you doing? Oh, no, I can tell you they do do it. They do do it. They definitely do that.

I must be MFing my iPad or Surface on the sideline when they're doing it. We played an entire playoff game, maybe two of them, where it was like, it felt like goal line defense, just the entire staff. Like how the hell are we defending the pass and the run right now, Todd? I don't know what you're doing

to get both of these accomplished. He's a genius man. He's making it pretty hard to beat in the middle too. No, Vita's easy. He's just 400 pounds and moves like a fucking linebacker. No, that's great. But how much more comfortable on you on game day, having seen all that? And I feel the same way with Vic to a certain extent in Philly. Like when you play a team that you never see the like a six man front on first down on and it messes with so many of your concepts. Like you guys get to see it every day. You're going to see the diamond mugs. You're going to see the five men fronts, the six men fronts. You're going to see nickel with like five

big guys. You're going to see all of them. So on game day, how does that feel knowing you've already had reps against all of it? Yeah. It's good when it comes to preparation, seeing like, okay, I've seen this look before this front where everybody's lined up. But what I have to revert back to is like, okay, in practice, they'll completely show it one way and then roll the safety down. Troy Paul and other style, roll them back to the middle of the field. So sometimes on game day, I have to dumb it down a little bit. I want to See is what I get. Yeah. I'm not trying to play the chess game. Okay. I see this. All right. Let's make this move. I used to do the same. So Jim Schwartz used to do this all the time

in training camp. I don't even know if he ever did it in the game. There'd be like six guys into the boundary that would tell you like it has to be four to a side. And then he blitz the nickel, like nobody capping them. So like, it took me like two training camps to figure out that every time they did this it was a nickel blitz So then I started picking it up and just like there's no way you see that again But there's no way you're calling that in the game. Like what are you talking about? Leave the slot wide as we're talking about and we're taking Chances, you know, it's the same thing you get into a game. It's like oh wait No, now that it's actually is coming from the boundaries

Yeah, sure. Yeah, but you already know spag it's actually, it's coming from the boundaries. It's a jump short. But you already know, Spags is another one where he'll throw something wild at you and he'll disguise it really well. And what it really trains is those instinctual, the quick wit and instinctual decisions to not fucking panic, not be like, oh shit, that's not it, what is it?

And like now you're like two steps behind in terms of your rhythm and the concept of the play. But it trains those like those instincts to be able to just always have that plan in place. And man, it's a it's a fucking luxury going up against good DCs and camps. Spags does, his timing is unreal. When he brings the pressure, that's the difference. He knows exactly when to bring it. He keeps that joker in the back. He sets it up, sets it up. He keeps one in the holster. Damn it, Spax. I fucking love that guy. So, tush push is still in effect. Have you guys been working on quarterback sneaks and tush pushes this season more? Yeah, tell us your playbook.

No, we haven't been practicing the tush push, but daddy can squat the fucking house. No, we haven't been practicing the touch push, but daddy can squat the fucking house. Let's foggy go! He said he doesn't need the push. We've been under the bar this week, boys. Doesn't need the push. We've been under the bar. Let's go. You guys are pretty good just handing that thing off.

All right, Matty, go. Just, yeah, go ahead, Buck. You're a shot. Just go get one. Dude, the season that guy had, did you see it coming? You know there's certain guys in camp and certain guys in the offseason where you're just like, we need to start dialing some shit up for that guy had, did you see it coming? You know, there's certain guys in camp and certain guys in the off season where you're just like, we need to start dialing some shit up for that guy right there. Was he one of them? Or did it kind of like

grow as he got comfortable? It definitely grew. Obviously, when you're not when you're in practice, not a game, you're not getting tackled to the ground. So it was hard to see how many tackles he's gonna miss or make miss. He's just so elusive. He's a phone booth guy. You can be right in front of him and he's slippery as hell. And he just keeps fighting at low center of gravity. Good balance.

And so, yeah, just having him and Rashad just like obviously, I thought Rashad was looking really, really good before the season last year. And I was like, oh, Rashad saw our workhorse. Bucky's going to be great. Get him in there for some screen game and whatnot. Well, then all of a sudden, Bad saw our workhorse. Bucky's going to be great. Get him in there for some screen game and whatnot. Yeah. Well, then all of a sudden Bucky was a run guy. And Rashad was great in pass pro and in the screen game, too. And it's just like they they play off of each other and they're and they're good

buddies. So that works. Hell, yeah, man. There's some guys like I remember when when Tyree Hill came in and you saw that speed, it was like the first seven on seven that we had. He caught the ball and just it just hit the highway. And I was like. What the fuck was that?

And then there's guys like like a like a Kareem Hunt where he he would get the ball in like a an offseason like runner in like the flat or something. And you see him running like, all right, man. All right, we'll see we'll see and then the game happens and he is just like no no keep feeding them keep feeding them Keep giving that dude the fucking ball. He's a sicko. It's so crazy How in the off season he just never know until that game starts or when you until like you like put those pads on Like is there any is there anybody you ever played with in the off season where you immediately were like, yep,

that's the guy. Yeah, I mean, there's been, there's been a few. Uh I mean, Jarvis Landry was one of them that some of the catches he would make with his great hands that are unbelievable. Some of the catches he could do. I'm like,

what is that? Uh Josh Gordon was, dude, an absolute monster. It's such a shame that his career career got derailed the way it did. And none of that would have happened in today's NFL, right? Like, no, no, it's I don't know, man. It sucks. He was such an electric player for Cleveland. He's a pretty son of a bitch, too. Great. We had him in KC for a while. He's a great dude. Yeah.

Let me ask you this. Before we get to the career rewind, how can we fix the quarterback situation in Cleveland? What is going on, Baker? There's, I mean, the jersey is now a list of 25 people. Is it a curse? Like, why can we not get this right? We draft you the best quarterback in college history

overall. What's going on? What's happening? Listen, I plead the fifth. When I was healthy, I was starting to get pretty damn good there. There you go. Not my problem anymore. All right now.

All right now. Well, let's take a little career rewind and take it back to college, man. You walked on at Texas Tech and were, everybody knows this now, was you hosted Pat Mahomes on his official visit out there. He had a good time. He had a good time out there in Lubbock, Texas. What made you want to go to Texas Tech?

Well, I was honestly in state tuition. Yeah. There you go. I had a couple, I had a couple of scholarships, but I wanted to play big D1 ball. Cliff Kingsbury had recruited me when he was at Houston. And then Eric Morris, who was the offensive coordinator when I got to tech, was with Mike Leach of Washington state and they had offered me. So there was a couple of familiar faces. The quarterback that was before me in high school was also at tech.

So I was like, okay, familiar people, system's gonna be easy to pick up. I'll be alright. I just took a chance and I was gonna go play baseball too. I'm on it man. What can't he do? I can't play basketball. Basketball is not good. Not good. What uh what position were you on the diamond? Uh played anywhere honestly in the infield but I just like to hit swing lefty quick quick first step the first base I'm bass guy you Swing at the first pitch guy or you kind of like take the first pitch kind of wait to see what you're looking at Come on now

It's an old-school mentality come out swing it I'm Fucking hammering the first pitch fastball know what's coming. I love it. Especially when we were younger. So you walked on at Texas Tech? Yep, walked on to Tech. When you said you had other offers, were they division, like, 1AA, Division II or these other, like 1A? Washington State, Jason.

Washington State? Washington State. My first one was Rice to play baseball and football. Okay. And I think Army, New Mexico, shout out Lobos. Yeah. Okay. Washington State and Florida Atlantic. So yeah, you're similar to me, except for all of my division offers were division two. But anyways, so you, I think you're doing all right. If the NIL thing would have been different when you were coming out, do, would

you have changed anything? Would you have maybe gone with like, because now you can transfer if you play well, like one of these lower tiered like schools that aren't in one of the bigger conferences, you can change and he did transfer. Well, yeah, but I mean, that wasn't it was a different. It was a different sit out of here, though. Exactly. It was different rules. Good point.

Yeah, talking about different rules. I don't think it would have changed my mentality. I still wanted to play a big time ball and I'm pretty damn happy. I don't have the NIL thing I might be dead if that money was coming in when I was in college Are you kidding me if I would have got anywhere some of these dudes we're talking to some of these guys that tighten you Some of these guys are getting a hundred grand two hundred grand worth of NIL did if I was getting that much money Travis that's nothing compared to what bar you feel I don't getting I'm talking about Who would have been getting millions of dollars?

That's what I'm saying. I'm talking about the tight end world. That alone, six figures at that age. It's wild. Yeah. Oh my fucking God. What do you think a young Baker Mayfield would have got at Oklahoma? Oh yeah.

Not money wise. Like what would you have bought? What would you have done with that money? I would have gotten a nice football house for the fellows. Oh Yeah, this is why why has anybody tried to change you? Why is anybody trying to change Baker may not necessarily as far into the blue mountain state spectrum for like a football house? Classic for the boys. You got to go full blue mountain state. Fuck that We got a football house in Cincinnati every time.

It was Blue Mountain State. The first one I got, we found this huge house on the wrong side of Clifton's campus, which has since been, it's a much nicer side. The rent was dirt cheap. We're like, oh man, this is a steal. We're getting this ginormous house for dirt cheap. And we beat the crap out of it. I mean, we had six guys in there, bunch of parties. And then we did the same thing over at our office alignment, our teammate, his parents built a house. Shout out to the Davises, the Davises. But yeah, big fan of the football houses. I mean, you're not I feel like in recruiting, if you see a great player who also lived at a football house,

I'm getting that guy every day of the week. I want that guy on my team. He always wants to be around the team. I don't want the valedictorian that with the class over like he had like 15 different classes. I want the guy that did the minimal amount of work and freaking was yeah, what are we talking about? I want the guy that I know he threw in for beer money. That's right. That's right. Did a beer run every now and then. Put one on for the fellas. Come on now. Yeah. Do you still hold grudges from being a walk-in? Like, do you think about the quarterbacks that did get these big school offers that you felt like you were better than? Do you keep names? Is there a list list somewhere I used to keep a list it's a lot a lot of anger

to pin down it's on this you said 6-1 when you gave me the intro I'm just trying to I'm trying to get this 6-1 if I stretch there's a lot of anger to keeping this Napoleon complex body you know what I mean can't do that but yeah I know exactly who was ranked ahead of me. A lot of them are well, they're not playing anymore. Pretty much all of them aren't playing. Yeah. There you go. There you go. It's all right. We got to talk about, we got to talk about 2016 Texas Tech versus OU. So when you, when you transferred, was it like you just wanted to go to a different situation or, or you got out of there for you

know the coaching reason or what made you transfer to OU? The first five games I started at Texas Tech. We were 5-0. Fifth game or sixth game I can't remember at this point. We were playing Kansas. I sprained my MCL. Minor sprain though. I was going to be back in three weeks and one of them was a bye week. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna miss two games, come back, get my job back. And when I came back, they had other plans. Davis Webb was playing, starting and they just said they were going to roll with him. And I was like, okay, well, I'll just sit here and wait it out. We started out seven and oh, so Davis won two games by week, and I was healthy to come back the next one. And then we lost, I think, four or five in a row.

And I was like at that point I went in and talked to Cliff and I was like, hey, like I don't know what's going on. Regardless do you think there's a plan to have me on scholarship next off season or like in the spring? He's like, no, we don't have one then. And I don't like bring it up stories like that because Cliff and I are good now we've talked about it. And he was like, no, we don't have one in the spring and we're

still working on one for the fall. I was like, what? I thought I was your fucking starting quarterback. You know, have a scholarship. Five and oh, what are we talking to the Bay? Are you talking five and oh, in the big 12, what are we doing? Yeah. At that point I was like, you know what?

My heart was never ready to Texas tech. I just went there because it was convenient and I grew up in OU fans. So I was like, okay, at this point I know I can play with the big dogs in D1. Hell yeah, you proved it. I'm going to take my chance and go transfer to OU. And then my transfer got blocked by tech. And so I had to sit out a year, which honestly was probably the best thing for me. I got to go through a season of, you know, just doing scout team workouts and enjoying that. And so I had a blast and wound up working out exactly how it should have.

Oh, yeah. Ended up where I wanted to be. It's crazy how sometimes the things that you feel like it's it's it's things that are ruining your career end up being like the best things that have ever happened. Right. Like, it's just yeah. So yeah, I can assimilate very much. Oh, yeah. You know,

you're preaching to the choir over here, brother. I still think I could be an NFL quarterback. Oh man. I don't know. You're 0 for 2, right? You and your laterals. The lateral king. Is Travis frozen? What's going on? He's frozen on mine, yeah.

Oh no. Brandon, you want to run a technical support system right here? Everything I got was like, charge it, make sure it's fully charged, if not have it plugged in. I don't think Travis has read an email in a very long time. You might be a West Coast, but the problem is your fucking shirt. What do you mean? So he lives on the West Coast. This is Brandon is intern Brandon is from Texas. So it's not a right. Where are you from? That's just outside of Dallas. For school. Oh, Scotty Scheffler guy Dallas. Yeah, you're not my problem talk tober Travis welcome back. Oh, sorry boys I love you. He's already he went out. Oh, he's frozen again. Oh Good guy you serious We had a good run there, can we get him some new Wi Fi every season of the show? It's just a limp

to the end. We're gonna make it. This fucking episodes electric so far. So it's great. I mean, keep going. 2016 Texas Tech. Oh, you the most legendary offensive football game known to man.

Patty Mahomes versus Baker Mayfield. You gotta tell us, what was that game like while you were in, while you were actually in it? So like my first time back to Lubbock as a player was crazy. And you know, like the fans were chanting, F you Baker. And then like, there's probably at the Jones, you can probably hold 68, 70,000.

Okay. I bet, I bet 45,000 of them were chanting F you Baker. You can hear it on like the TV copy. It's it was good. It was electric. It's got to get you fired up though. Oh, nipples could cut glass on those. No, I loved it.

But I mean, the fact that I feel like it was Oklahoma versus Pat, we had to score every single drive in the second half just to win the game. I'm like, what the hell is this? He had over like 813 or 819 yards total. 18, 819. The official stat line, the official stat lines for both of these freaking unbelievable legends. Mahomes 52 of 88. That's a lot of past attempts. 88 pass attempts. Are you fucking how does arm not fall off? 734 yards, 819 total yards, five touchdowns, shaking bank Baker, 27 to 36, much more normal.

Proficient line. I mean, Jesus Christ 545 yards not so normal 564 total seven touchdowns dude. What the this is like a basketball score. That's 66 to 59 It was wild. What did you say to the most? What was being said to your guys defense on the sideline like guys? Can we get a stop? It was one? Just one. Just one, please. No, it honestly was a matter of who had the ball last. I mean, that's the type of game it was.

I mean, it was crazy. The atmosphere was unbelievable. There was a couple easy completions there that Joe Mixon took to the house. Yeah. All right, now. Let's give it to your ball player. Some things that Lincoln-Ryland had dialed out. Team game. Team game. I'm, team games, the team guy,

football house kind of guy. Uh, we had, we had a beat on beer and kind of guy. Yeah. Paint your back porch, anything you want. Uh, no, but it was, it was unreal, but yeah, it was just like, Hey guys, just give us one, give us one. And we're good. Crazy man. This has gotta be the greatest quarterback duel of all time in college football all time Oh, and they uh, it's actually stuck that they're the tortillas down the field. What kind of to tell us I don't know about this Pat hasn't told you guys about this I feel like I heard it from from one of my guys an old tradition. They like it's like an old tradition They'll they'll bring tortillas in like on the kickoff. They'll throw them in on the field like we're talking soft shell

They're so we're soft shell shell or hard shell tortillas? Soft shell, soft shell flour, no corn, too flimsy, wind will get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So flowers are getting thrown and they're pretty damn stale. And there's also no telling how, because they tried to ban it,

but the kids will sneak them in anyway. There's no telling where they hide these things. They threw one down there on the field. I looked up, saw the guy who threw it, took a bite out of it. That's a ball and move. Yeah. Get sick. No, but you sent a message. Yeah. Yeah. I will eat you for lunch. Oh my God. You think you think I'm scared of a Tattila think I'm scared of a Tattila. Fuck out of here. Yo, let's ask about some of your OU teammates though, man. I'm a big

fans of one of my guys that I'm still playing with today. Creed Humphrey. You gotta give me what was Creed like in college? He's a football house guy, right? Football house guy. Football house guy. Nice beer run kind of guy. Nice. You have to make two.

Well, the first one is for himself because he can drink a case of beer by himself. And then the second one is for the fellas. Good, absolute monster. All-state wrestler, absolute stud coming in. I didn't know centers could be left-handed. I thought that was just completely banned. I mean, we didn't have anything under center at Oklahoma, but we had, you know, taken a knee or like a goal line play. And so when Creed would have to go in and be like, Hey Creed, you have to snap with your right hand. So we tried to teach him under center how to snap with his right hand.

I couldn't do it. I can't go both ways, man. No chance. I can't in no capacity, in no capacity. Could you snap left handed, Jason? There's no, there's no chance. I can't do the simplest of tasks that I do every night. I couldn't do it at all.

I'm not great at it. Dude, it is honestly comical. The level of uncoordination I have with my left hand. Like there's guys that will go in there and like shoot basketballs left handed or throw left handed. I don't know what it is. I can't do it. The only thing I could do is I could, when I played lacrosse,

I got to the point that I could shoot a lacrosse ball left handed and like stick handle left handed. But outside of that, no chance. And we did the same thing. We had a left handed center in Philly that we tried to teach right handed and he somehow got it down. But it is something that it's a great point. Like how much of a difference is it to the point that they teach guys literally to do it with their offhand? Because why would you ever do that unless it actually made that big of a difference? I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the angle of what it comes up, but yeah, it just it felt weird Yeah, I don't know. Does it feel weird in shotgun too or only underneath? Well, I mean creed snaps it like you hard as fuck. So I mean the respect when you're looking the respect when you're looking at it, when you're looking at it, it looks weird, but it's fine. Okay. It's just like, you're so used to this spin coming a certain way. And then all of a sudden it's coming a different way. It's like,

there we go. Cuts the wind a little different. What was it like playing with Mark Andrews? Markie Andrews, baby. Oh, Mark, that what a guy. I mean, you know, I talk about anger problems. Mark's got some anger problems. Even when I've only talked to him a couple of times, and I feel like he's mad at me about something. I don't even know. I just feel like I didn't do anything wrong to him. What did I do? I mean, I mean, one of my one of my best friends, but

he will not talk to me during football season. Really? Not. He was in our wedding and won't talk to me during football season. Really not. He was in our wedding and won't talk to me during football season. I used to play him twice a year. I'd tell him to the game. Be like, hey, how you doing? Like don't don't don't come out to me. We've never talked before. Yeah, I've drank way too many Red Bull vodkas with you at

Logies and Norman for you to act like that in front of me. Oh my gosh. What is love the death him to death, man. My guy's all about ball, man. Like, is this like a you'll text him and he just doesn't respond? Or is this just, oh, my gosh. Come on, Mark.

I'll reach out to his brother. My guy's locked in. My guy's locked in. I mean, there's locked in. There's been a psycho. My goodness. Sometimes there's only one way to do things. I love that dude man. All ball for sure.

Talk about a guy had to persevere through some things last year with the injuries and everything man still comes up fucking huge late in the late in the season for Baltimore men the two headed monster they got in the in the tight end room really three headed monster and then you add the fucking the rhinoceros they have a full back that that office is fucking insane, man. Yeah. It's unbelievable. When I was in Cleveland, just watching them like, Oh man, we're not getting the ball back.

They're just about to milk the shit. They're in 15 person. Oh, it's not even possible. Right. Yeah. What do we do? It's not easy. Let's work it back to the 2018 draft. As we've said earlier in this episode, number one overall pick to our beloved Cleveland Browns. When did you know you were going to go one overall?

Not to that phone call. Really? So fucking cool. Wow. I feel like a lot of the times those deals are done. I feel like you hardly hear that. Yeah. No, I, and like now knowing John Dorsey, John Dorsey, baby, the legend himself. He's the best. Now knowing him, I could probably have said, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to go into Cleveland. But before that, I wouldn't have known.

I mean, just, it was a standard, standard meeting. And I say that because Dorsey at the combine. So when I got I got arrested before my senior year in 2017, no, I was in Fayetteville, Arkansas, a little little dose of public intoxication. Yeah. That's like, yeah, that's not a restaurant. So in public, you should be able to drink. Yeah. Would you have a few too many at Arby's? Applebee's fuck. I don't know where I was man. Listen, if you have a few too many at Arby's that is a red flag. If you're drinking it. Can you drink it? No, you can't. That's why it's

red flag. But when I walked in at the combine train station interview and I mean everybody's in that tiny little room jam packed. I walk in. First thing I hear is you like food trucks. Cause I got arrested right after going to a food truck in Arkansas and it was Dorsey. And so now knowing that he was probably just seeing how I would react. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Of course, I love food trucks. What do you mean? Street, love them. What are you talking about? Street meat can get a little dicey. All right. Come on, Travis. You don't do food trucks?

Street meat can get a little dicey. You know, it depends on if I'm publicly intoxicated or not. Dude, I'm not going to lie. I will go up to damn near any food vendor. All right. Other first round quarterbacks drafted in that draft. Dude, hell of a draft. Are you kidding me? Sam Darnold, number three, Josh Allen, number Allen number seven Josh Rose and number ten Lamar Jackson number 32 that's a hell of a fucking draft class for QB's Squad isn't it funny to think about they were gonna fucking try everybody was trying to convince the martyrs and I play quarterback Isn't that fucking hilarious wild? I mean, holy shit. I can't I can't imagine like what?

I mean, he keeps getting better every single year. I can understand if they were trying to make an excuse just because of how athletic he was. But his arm talent is fucking arguably just as good as his ability to fucking move around. It's insane. Yeah, it's like it. He does get better every year. And like he's always had the arm strength.

And also when you can't tackle him, you throw it wherever you want. It's just gotten better. He has made people look straight stupid. All right, Peter, Josh Rosen, just telling everybody there's nine nine, nine mistakes ahead of him. Ah, dude, I feel like one of the last times I saw fucking Johnny D. He was, he was working Josh Rosen out at uh UCLA and guess who was running routes for him? Terrell Owens. Oh wow. T.O. was out there running routes for Josh Rosen during his like pro day. Yeah. Which T.O. could still run some routes. He could still listen to Go Ball. How? Give him the Go Ball all day. He could still hawk down a goal ball. I promise you, man. I'll see him in passing here and there because we've got the same trainer out in LA and he'll, he'll let me know. Like, Hey

man, make sure you let the big red. No, I can still run routes. I'm just like, I will do that. I've seen it dude. It was like a lot of these old guys will say that like I'm good for one game. And then TO is like full on full on like no I could play a whole season guaranteed you were claimed off of waivers by the Carolina Panthers then played a game in 48 hours for the Los Angeles Rams dude that game was so electric not only played one no not just one I was about to say, yeah. Leading a fourth quarter cup. Dude, that shit was so fucking epic. I was I was at the house

jumping through the fucking roof like you get a bank, get a bank, throw in fucking dimes all over the field. I think what was it? Jefferson, I think was your fan. Jefferson. You do. Dude, had a fucking great game. You guys were connected all the time.

How crazy was that, though, to come a fucking great game. You guys were connected all the time. How crazy was that though to come in fucking midweek? Like wild. What do you mean? What are you even doing a two-minute drill? Because two minute is all like signals and like how does that even happen? How did you communicate the play? Did you remember the play where they were like giving it? And Jason? He's a professional. Of course. He remembers It's 48 hours though Travis like. Like, I don't understand. All right, go ahead. Sorry. We'll stop talking. No, you're good. But it's wild having to rush to the airport because I got a call from less need Sean McVeigh. Like, hey, we'd love to get you out here earlier to see if you can

possibly play Thursday. And I was like, fuck. So I rushed to the airport, catch the last flight I possibly can. I mean, I just cleared waivers and got picked up. Get on the flight, get out there. I'm on get to West Coast. I get to the facility at 10 p.m. So it's me, Liam Cohen and Zach Robinson and Sean McVeigh going through what they have offensively. Luckily, protection wise, I was good.

Bill Callahan system, like I was good on protection wise terminology, all that. Perfect. You can eliminate that eliminates a big part of it. Did that after that I was cramming for a fucking SAT or ACT. Just a lot of memorization. Just, just know that these are two by two formations. These are three by one. These are one by three. I was like, okay, cool. Like other than that, like those guys will get lined up. So other than like I'm having to memorize concepts and whatnot. And I mean, they were like, okay, cool. Like other than that, like those guys will be lined up. So the other than like I'm having to memorize concepts and whatnot. And I mean, they were like, okay, what you really need to memorize is our like no huddle stuff, because we think you can do that you need to memorize that and then I'll be damn though, I'd say it all the time, man. He was one of my favorite coaches I had, I got a pleasure to meet with coming out when he was over at it as a tight end coach at DC.

How fucking crazy was it jumping into like a short week like that? Like he already talks fast. How, I can only imagine when the time is crunched, how fucking fast he's ripping those fucking like concepts and reads and all that shit. and I still give him shit because he talks fast and they were like Sean We're gonna have to make Baker a wristband So they had like they're like 76 plays on there, which was a lot for me to learn

24 hours. Yeah, he didn't call a single fucking playoff And I'll still give him hell about it, but I mean just an unbelievable guy what you see is what you get He didn't call a single fucking playoff that wristband. I'll still give him hell about it, but I mean, just an unbelievable guy. What you see is what you get. He's always that energy, always. And it's just, he's a great dude. Great dude, man. That's a completely different system.

Like was it, I know that you said the office of line terminology was the same. Were the concepts were like, everything that they were doing, was it completely foreign or was there at least somewhat of a crossover? Where was it at? It was like it was memorizing the past concepts because you can't exactly reinvent the wheel on it But I had a good idea for it, but I mean some of these play calls I was like I've never said that many words in my life Not even in a speech. How many words can you possibly put before you say can?

How do you feel about the long verbiage? I couldn't stand it when I was in the huddle. Whenever the quarterback sounded like he was saying a short story, I'd be like, dude, can we shorten this down to like a one-worder? Like we know if it's got that many motions, just call it fucking shenanigans. I don't wanna hear.

We would. No, you can, you can. I don't wanna hear this. It would drive me crazy. Like the first play they taught me was like Zimmo South right close up short. I got. All right. We got 16 waffles ski. Can it with 17

tiff? I was like, what the fuck is that? What? Perfect. Perfect. All right. Jot that one down. What's the next one? All right. We got 72 more to go. Got it all up here in the noggin. Nice safety rotation. Understood. Oh, man.

We got one more, um, one more segment. We call it. We got to ask, but you don't have to answer. You can still fuck off, dude. So, uh, we'll just be the rapid fire and a match. A dude. First one I got for you after you got signed by the bucks to follow the the the goat Tom Brady. Did you get any advice from Tom? No. Solid. You're savvy, man. Hey, Tom, where's the best spot to eat in town?

I don't think we eat the same things. Yeah, there we go. You're known for talking on the field. What did you say to Nick Bosa when you stiff armed him while throwing the foot when thrown for a fourth down conversion? Let's throw this clip up there. They feel the Vates in trouble. Stiff arm throws. Oh, man. That's it.

Was that big? Best part is, I wouldn't even throw it to Rashad. I was throwing it to Sterling Shepherdepard right behind him. That's one of the best plays I've seen all year. That's one of the best plays I've ever seen a quarterback make. Exactly what he was trying to do. You got it. That's how I drew it up, man. On fourth, I gotta have it just how I drew it up.

Just sometimes you gotta give it a chance. We're in two minute mode, so I didn't say anything or else I would have uh, I would have tried to talk some shit to Nick. There you go. Do you have a go-to like shit talking phrases? Like what is your, are you Cursor? Are you- are you a big fuck you guy? Are you- do you attack them as people? See me on the next play! See me on the next play! No, I took this one from Aaron Foster a long time ago. I watched a mic that clip of him. Okay. He told somebody to turn around. What's the name on the back of that jersey? I don't

know who you are. Fuck off. That one can sting. That one can sting. That one can sting. That would hurt. That would hurt. I can't take credit for it, but yeah, it's a good one. I'm Jason. I'm Jason. Jason. I'm Jason. Last season, you doubt of a play to get Mike Evans, his 11th consecutive thousand yard season.

God, this was an awesome fucking moment. If that play didn't work, I mean, you got to keep coming back to him though. Right. For sure. Right. Well, here's the thing. We had the game sealed. We should have been taking a knee. Yeah. Oh yeah. You got to through the ball in a must knee situation with the playoffs on the line. Ooh, yeah. That makes it dicey. Say this gets tipped,

pick six. Oh gosh. Yeah. I'm seeing this now. I'm seeing this now. That's, that's an aggressive move. I wish you like, it doesn't do it justice with the fan reaction, the silent reaction, that video. Unbelievable. But how much it meant for Mike, how much Mike means the community, the coaching staff, the organization, like that, that says it all. To throw the ball when you're going to the playoffs already, to throw the ball and risk something to get somebody an achievement of Ty Jerry Rice. I mean, that guy is an absolute stud. Absolute stud, man.

Mike, I've only had the fortune of playing with him in Pro Bowls, but you can even tell just in those settings Freaking great teammate man that guy has great energy Awesome personality a guy that you would love playing with and you could see it in those reactions like everybody was so juiced about it So that's awesome, man. Hell. Yeah. Yep. All right, who's the better dancer? You or Travis? about it so that's awesome man hell yeah yeah all right who's the better dancer you or travis come on man what hey travis has more practice now with the background choreographers yes yes we're talking natural abilities i got him you do you do now rehearsals and stuff he might have the upper hand. I don't know. Yeah He's a professional practice Talk about practice come on now

There and wing it Little rhythm come on now. The best one is the the the on the like the one that showed everybody you could dance back at Oklahoma the one that showed everybody you could dance back at Oklahoma. How often had you guys done that? Like at Oklahoma, just fucking around with the boys. They knew I could dance a little bit. But then that was like we went to Disney. We're in the it's the year I sat out. So we're playing Clemson.

I'm doing nothing. I'm just on a free trip to Disney. We're hanging out. Taxi kid enjoying my time. Not legally at that time, but the kids were doing a little dance circle and both teams were around and then all of a sudden it escalated pretty quickly. They threw the little white guy in there and you know what? Hey, hey. Shake it up.

That's right. Hey. I had to hit that shit. What's tougher though, being an NFL quarterback or being the father of a one-year-old father one-year-olds easier than being an NFL quarterback now when she gets to a certain age that answer is going to quickly change. Oh yeah. Yeah.

I'm not looking forward to that. I got four girls and they're gonna be in high school pretty much at the same time. I might just good luck buddy. I'm gonna unretire. I'm gonna unretire. I'm going to unretire. 50 something years old. Jason's because he's trying to make an NFL comeback. We'll get you about 250 now so you can't go back to center. We're going to get you over here playing some tight end, bud. Come on over to tight end.

We'll fold back and tight end. Exactly. Wait till they start turning two and then they don't listen. Freaking it's yeah. Yeah. It'll be fun. No, it's great. Listen. You have disobedient kids, Jason. No, they don't. They're not disobedient. I know it's not Kylie's fault. Yeah. Well, it's definitely not Kyle's fault. All right. You started the Baker and Emily Mayfield foundation where one of the things you do is give out walk-ons, scholarships, which, fuck yes. Awesome, man.

What makes a Baker Mayfield walk-on? You know, we obviously, when we send the thing out for applicants, read through all the letters and seeing the stories of resilience, what people had to go through, whether it was upbringing or in a tragic event they had to go through, whether it was upbringing or in a tragic event they had to go through to get to where they're at, just following their dream. And that's the biggest thing. So our motto is to try and level the playing field. Obviously college landscape nowadays is different within IL, but for some of these walk-ons that are true walk-ons and other sports and everything, just to try and find the person that deserves it the most. And then also when we get the finalists

trying to reach out to people and see if is their story true? Just to make sure, verify it. It's probably smart, yeah. Yeah, and just to be sure of that. And so try and level playing field for people that really deserve it. Dude, I think- That's awesome, man.

I know my favorite videos every year in college and we were fortunate to be a part of one with Drew Brees of Cincinnati where we Awarded one of the Bearcats a scholarship, but dude seeing those videos of a guy that's been busting his tail Especially like an older guy that's kind of put in a few years Or I mean anybody's getting a scholarship the you could see the whole team erupt because of how much everybody's behind it it's not unsimilar to what happens with Mike Evans when you get these kids and those are my favorite videos every year. So great,

great job to you. Great job to you to your wife. That's that's tremendous, man. Good shit. Appreciate it. Yeah. Love it. What is your welcome to the NFL moment actually against you boys in the preseason? Yeah. Fletcher Cox threw me like an absolute rag doll Welcome to the league bitch In the preseason That ain't right Fletch for some reason would do that with young guys, why was he playing in the preseason? That's my biggest question

You gotta ask Jim. I don't know what Schwartz he was doing with that one, but I know Fletch for some reason would do that with young guys. Why was he playing in the preseason? That's my biggest question. You got to ask Jim. I don't know what Schwartz he was doing with that one, but I don't know. Dude, he... So I tell people this a lot. I've noticed two people's grip strengths, like when they've grabbed me in my entire career. One of them was Clay Matthews.

For some reason he grabbed me, he was like head up in like a goal line play and he grabbed my shoulder and was like, why the fuck are this guy's hands so strong? He wasn't even that big of a guy and then all of a sudden Fletcher Cox he we draft him he comes in and he would Grab me with his hands and it felt like the most emasculated I've ever felt like this guy could do Whatever he wants with me right now So you're gonna have your way. Yeah Clay was just used to putting that thing in a ponytail. Yeah the grip

That's we worked it on oh My gosh, dude, I got another one. Hold on real quick Baker's Baker's frozen. Oh Was he frozen? No, you're frozen Brandon. You're frozen Brandon You're frozen Brandon What is a Baker Mayfield taco what's your fit what's your favorite go-to kind of tacos I know you're a taco guy Oh, I am are you food truck. Are you are you kind of like the upscale? Like kind of trendy taco spot. Are you like they better not even be speaking English in there? What kind of tacos are you getting? I hope they don't speak English, right? I want the greasiest of greasy. I want to taste all the flavors They've had on this cast iron. They got going back there flat top. I want to see all of it

Yes, you better not have any food allergies in the food trucks. I'm going to Contamination out the ass I want all of it Corn tortilla flour tortilla. It doesn't matter. We eat all of it. Oh, my body's a temple. Some corn tortillas right now, but flowers preference. You know, what do we get? Oh my gosh, I used to be able to eat anything.

It's bullshit. 92% is Baker Mayfield. Appreciate you coming on man giving us a time to stories, brother and can't wait to see you guys out of town Man, it's gonna be a fucking blast over under over under 30 beers a day, dude. It's gonna be over 30 at the lucky beaver alone What are you talking about? Guys and That does it for our interview with Baker Mayfield. Yeah

Shake your bag can't wait to see what he does this year in Tampa Bay. It's been awesome seeing his career get rejuvenated down there in Florida. Yeah, and everybody's healthy down there in Tampa, man. Everybody's healthy. Start of the year. They had a very good team before guys started going down last year.

They can stay healthy. They can cause a lot of problems in the NFC. That also wraps up this season of New Heights. How about that? Year three, baby. It's insane to think we've done this for three years now. Quick shout out to Adam Sandler and Baker Mayfield for joining us on this episode.

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We love you guys for tuning in and can't wait to jump off another season of new heights. Yeah, baby. See you guys next year or in season of New Heights. Yeah, baby. See you guys next year, or in like a couple of weeks. Yeah, it's not gonna be that long. Don't forget about us, please. Please, please. What's the next thing we can spend on a corporate card is the NFLPA to be more ridiculous. That's one of my favorite segments now.

Can we use any of that? We need a woman's voice. What can we can we use any of that? Dude, this is like the one recording Carly's not on and we fucking immediately go that turn. Honestly, she would be worse about it. She's a degenerate. She would be way worse about it.

Carly would be pro this conversation from Carly's not the voice reason you think she is from what I understand about Carly. She would not be helpful in the situation. Okay. Maggie said it's not that bad for once POV. Okay. Maggie said not that bad. We'll take it.

Please send. I think we'll take it. If you do think it's bad, please send tweets to Jay Chatsky on Twitter. Not me. I don't want to hear about this one. What does McKenna say? McKenna? What's the ruling? There we go. Yeah. All right. I think that's a good thing. There we go. Is Bambi even a good name for a stripper? I don't even know if that's good or not. Dude, it was it was perfect. Also, it's a good fake stripper name. It's like right. What people like it's imaginary. Yeah, it's good. Yeah.

It plays is that you think that's what their names are. Yeah, it plays innocent enough. If you named like a real one, I went, oh, damn it, Jason. That shit was fucking gold. Move your tits. I'm trying to show a graph. What if they have their laptops out? They're crunching numbers. Follow New Heights on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to New Heights early and ad free.

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