New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Saquon Barkley on Eagles Signing, Real Value of Running Backs and Squatting More Than Jalen | Ep 83

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

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We're gonna have some real special surprises. A lot of guests that hopefully everybody in Cincinnati can get fired up for. So we'll keep you up to date on that. And before that, the first ever great Lumbaby games are gonna be going down on the same day, just before we get into all the interviews and the guests. And we cannot wait to see you guys duke it out

for the first ever Golden Lum Baby Trophy. I'm still getting used to this nonsense Jason created. Well, we're still figuring out what we're giving them, but the Golden Lum Baby Trophy will be there. Ooh. But either way, we got a bunch of great games teed up for you guys. Yeah, tell them what we got, Jason.

Yeah, man. Well, first of all, there's gonna be a, there's a competition. Jocks, athletics versus academics is what they're trying to say. But really it's jocks versus nerds. Everybody knows the game. All right. Everybody's everybody knows. And we got exactly what it is. And it's going to be a Cincinnati football version, Cincinnati university bearcats version. We got skyline chili. We might have some live animals. We're going to be having students participate

against the student athletes. So there's going to be some bragging rights here. And of course, the proceeds are all well, some of the proceeds are going to be going to the Cincy Reigns. That's right to support the NIL collective at the University of Cincinnati to help with recruiting and making Bearcats football great. Get them boys and girls paid. Money falling from the ceiling. Yeah. Let it rain. Yeah, we got a bunch of cool stuff.

We got trivia, we got music, we got trivia, we got skyline, we got running, we got catching, we got throwing, we got a little bit of everything. So these games are gonna be fun. I can't wait picture revenge of the nerds slash wipeout slash MXC That's exactly what we're going for actually, all right Let's talk about what we're getting to this episode and. And let's do it. Got a special guest here.

You're not gonna miss this one. Let's get it on. Alrighty, our guest today is superstar NFL running back out of Whitehall High School. That's right, he's the record holder for most career rushing touchdowns in Penn State history. The second overall pick in the 2018 draft, former offensive rookie of the year,

two-time Pro Bowler, the man who apparently is now on the enemy. Well, the good guys for us. That's right, please welcome Philadelphia Eagle, St. Juan Barkley! Here we go! Yeah! Yeah!

I need that, I wish I got to have you two around. I need more intros like that, you know? It makes me feel good about myself. Every room you go, we got you, dawg. That's all we do, that's our major right there. Well, uh. Welcome to New Heights, brother. Yeah, welcome to New Heights.

Cheers, man. Yeah, I'm excited. Appreciate you taking the time, man. It's been a pretty wild couple weeks for you? Yeah, but all good things, you know? Like, that's how I try to look at it. All blessings, obviously stressful a little bit, had to make some decisions.

Those are never easy, man. Yeah, it's not. You're A1, man. Obviously we've met during passing and stuff through all the NFL events and stuff like that, and you pour your heart into it, man. And you can tell that when you do that, you create the relationships and stuff.

So I can only imagine how tough it's been for you, bro. Yeah, knowing you had a place for six years, and had a lot of ups and downs, tore my knee, I have a lot of history there. So knowing you're gonna leave, and obviously before I even made a decision that I was going to be in Philly, but knowing that, oh, this story,

this chapter's kinda coming to an end, it definitely sucks, but unfortunately it's a business. And I'm happy, I could like, oh, this story, this chapter's kinda come to an end. It definitely sucks, but unfortunately it's a business. And I'm happy, I could be, there's some guys who's trying to find a spot, trying to get in the league, bouncing around, and I had the opportunity to make a decision where I could further on my legacy and put me and my family in a better situation. You did that, man, you did that.

There were rumors eventually, in the beginning, that the Eagles were kind of in it. Were they always kind of like the top choice? Or were they the ones kind of trying to make that move happen? Let's be honest here, right? This is what the show's for. I believe probably the first team that had

my first interest was Houston. Ooh. It was Houston. That would've been dangerous too. I got to communicate with CJ and a couple of those boys. But this is before all the, when you actually could put offers on the table and talk to teams.

Then as it got closer and you start hearing word, and it was like, okay, like, you know, Philly, I probably never imagined myself playing for Philly, you know, six years ago. Yeah, sure. But it was like, I get to come back to Pennsylvania, my family's from Pennsylvania, my lady, our kids, like grandmas, all that's from Pennsylvania. So we get to, we're already close,

we even get to get closer. And get a chance to compete. I got to admire them for afar, admire what he was able to build over there. And get to be able to be a part of that culture. It was a no brainer for me. Hell yeah. Did you grow up, so you grew up in PA,

but you were a Western PA, right? Nah, Eastern. You were Eastern? Oh wow. Yeah, Eastern. Okay. I'm probably 50 minutes from maybe, it depends on the time you leave,

like 50 minutes, an hour from now. So did you grow up a Bird's fan? No, no, no, no. No? I did not. My dad, I was born in New York, I was born in the Bronx. My dad got a Jets tattoo like right here. Oh, okay.

Jets Jakes, you'll be real happy with this. I was a Jets fan growing up my whole life. So not only did you go to the Giants, but then you went down the street. So you just been bouncing all around the Jets. Yeah, really. But the cool thing, like the cool thing about the Giants story, because the Giants and the Jets. Yeah, really. But the cool thing about the Giants story,

because the Giants and the Jets, obviously they share a stadium. So when I was a kid, and I'm always about big on speaking stuff to existence. Oh yeah, you got to. Me and my dad would drive, and if I was sleeping, and say we going from PA to New York, my dad would always wake me up,

or I would always look at the stadium, the stadium before it was my life, and he'd be like, I'm going to play in that stadium, I'm going to play in that stadium. And I thought it was going to be for the Jets one day, but it just kind of mashed up for me. I was number two pick, and Jets was number three. I'm not saying if the Giants passed me,

I would've made it to the Jets, but it was cool for me to be able to, as a kid, have that moment and think about that and dream about that, and then put on that and be able to play in that stadium. That's dope, man. That's dope, and I mean, like you said, you're still playing in that stadium. Yeah, right?

Yeah. I'm pretty curious, though, how did you get Howie Roseman to throw that much money at a running back? Three years, $37 million? Listen, I will say this. Yeah, damn! I will say this. A lot of people gotta know that, you know,

I had a couple good offers. I love to hear that. It was something I needed. For your confidence, for your swagger, you hit the open market and everyone's talking and you're in the rumbles, oh you're gonna get this and you're gonna get that, this is what a running back market is. And it's like, I was viewed as a weapon.

I was viewed as somebody that can come to the team and I'm not just a bruiser back. They envisioned me how they use an Alvin, how they use a Christian and not Just saying feel it like the teams, you know, all the scenes are able to offer So when I had you know, my offers in place, I was like, all right, what best fit me? Where can I go and have the best opportunity to win in my opinion? And when you put all the pieces together, it made no sense to be feeling I love it, man

Well, we're damn sure excited to have you in Philly. Three years, 37.75 million. Howie Roseman sure did shell out for Saquon Barkley. Doop, doop, doop, doop. Yeah, man, and I think you hit it off right away. Your daughter became the star of the show. Jada asked if you're going to win now, now that you're on the Eagles.

Yeah, that, see, I like put a tweet out about that. First of all, it's funny. What a day, right? You have grown men and women on social media arguing with a five-year-old. Just put that out there. But like, it's funny how the media turns stories. Like, I told that story.

If anything, my teammates know that, I told that story, if anything, my teammates know that, or my former teammates, like DJ, Slay, like at the time, I told my teammates that story because it was more embarrassing for me. And they took it like, I'm trying to throw a shot at the Giants. Like I'm telling you a story that my daughter,

we was getting our ass beat by the Eagles so bad in so much of my career, that they're like, my daughter's seen the pain and it calls me coming home. They're like, my daughter's seen the pain and it calls me coming home. They're like, my daughter's like, oh, are we actually gonna win now? And everyone tried to spin it, like it's a shot. It's a shot at the Giants fans,

but it's like, it just, that made no sense. And I've been noticing recently, you know, just don't respond, just stay off the game. It's not worth it. You always gotta take the high road. Like everybody who has a daughter or any kids realizes, man, you gotta, yeah. You gotta do this. It's not worth it. You always gotta take the high road. Like everybody who has a daughter or any kids realizes, man, sometimes things just come out and it's natural and it's hilarious.

And I thought that was a- It was like a coming to like full circle moment for me. For sure. When I was telling that story. I thought it was a pretty cool story. It's like, damn, like I had this moment with my daughter. Obviously it was a embarrassing moment for me. And then, you know, here we are.

And then everyone was just like, oh, he's throwing shots at the Giants. And I'm like, all right, man, like, it's not even that deep. It really is, yeah. I feel you on that. Jason's oldest, Wyatt, knows AJ Brown as his pink cleats on the field.

Do you like his pink shoes? Yeah. Nice. You have any fun, like, your family, man, do you have any fun, like, traditions with your kids before, or on game days? Oh yeah, me and my daughter have a handshake. A handshake? Nice.

We do a little handshake, where we do our little stuff and we kiss each other in the cheek. My son now, he's one, so he really, he loves football already, which is kind of crazy to say. His first word was ball, so. Oh, okay. 20 years, we got another one coming up.

It's in the jeans. It's in the, how Yeah, how is Quan looking? Yeah, he's good. He's an athlete, all right? He's an athlete, I'll tell you that. His dad got some pretty good jeans, and his mom's a pretty good athlete too, so. You gotta make sure we keep him on the right track.

He'll be all right. Hell yeah. Well, let's talk some of the reception in Philly, man. Everybody's obviously going nuts because of the type of player they just got. Obviously a big family man. What's it been being on the other side of the Eagles? And do you have any, I always love to hear

the bad Philly stories of the fans when you go into their, when you go into the link as an opponent. How has it kinda been different? Do you have any good stories from when you were playing? Yeah, I think it's been great. The reception's been great. I was there the other day, house shopping. I got a free bagel, a free sandwich.

Let's go, there you go. I'm trying to get something free for me. Getting the perks already. If it's free, I need three, baby. It was weird because if I was like, when I go back to Philly, like, you know, they'll say, they'll talk shit and shit, like whatever, like how, you know, how fans would be.

But like, I would know some of those fans personally, cause I'm from that area. And like my little, when I was a kid growing up, my nickname, SeSe. So it was like, I would be like, SeSe, you fucking suck. And I'm like, you can't see, but I'm like, I definitely know you. Like we played ice football together or something like that. That's one thing I haven't got a chance to really do.

I've been so caught up with, obviously looking for houses and the movement. And then going back and forth with, you know, Giants fans or Tiki. That really haven't like got a chance to be able to like, be able to show how appreciative I am to actually be a Philadelphia Eagle. Like I'm a guy like you said, like I love it.

I want to compete. Like I love the culture. I got to see it. One of my favorite football experiences outside of losing the game was when we played them in the original playoffs, the year that they lost to you guys in the Super Bowl. That was a dope experience. My family was there and I got to say

they haven't had that experience since college because we went to Penn State and Penn State was jumping. So I was like, I'm just happy to be a part of that culture. Let me clear myself up, that's no diss to Giants fans or stuff like that, people could take it. But that's a fun culture. They showed a video to the free agents and they had you talking and you was like,

if you love this city, the city's gonna love you. And that's what I'm excited for. I can't wait to get to that place, can't wait to embrace that culture and give 110% more. Hell yeah. They'll have fun with it. Somebody that we all know has fun being a Philadelphia Eagle,

Brandon Graham. BG! Hey, what up, baby? Man, just wanted to say what up. I just happened to come out and you just on your way, man. So, you want to give you some love? Hey, man, can't wait to go try to do this thing together. Go enjoy yourself, man.

Get that love, baby. I'ma hit you. BG was out front welcoming you in. I'm sure you got some good BG stories that you haven't talked to Smack. I'm just happy that I don't gotta, like he can talk to Smack now. That's what I, yeah, I gotta know. You'll hear the training camp.

He can talk to Smack now. You'll hear the training camp for sure. We can do the training camp, but I don't got here on the field. Him and Fletch, like, Fletch one time, my rookie year, Fletch and BG, they're great to play against. I remember one time Fletch tackled me my rookie year. It was like impressive tackles, I was like down the field

and I was like, there's no reason why a man that big should be able to be at that spot where we're making that tackle. And like I look up and he's like, yep, it's me again. I'm gonna be your daddy for the next 12 years. And I'm just like, I'm gonna be your daddy for the next 12 years. I'm looking like this and it's like, I'm gonna be your daddy for the next 12 years. I'm looking at him like this.

And it's like at the point, like it's like, you know it's all funny games. And I'm starting counting, I'm like, nah, there's no way he playing for another 12. Like this is out of me. But BG, we played him divisional playoffs. And like he's going crazy. Like he's going ham at decks,

which like he don't even got a block deck. So like you got a block deck. Yeah, he's messing my day up. I'm like, bro, you calm down, bitch? We had the coin toss, and he just, boom, boom, boom. I'm just like, and that fired me up. So I can see it now, how it's gonna be a dope experience and cool to be a part of that side with him.

Because I remember at that coin toss, you already knew what it was. It's Phillies, New York, it's the divisional playoffs. And it was that little standoff moment we all get, and he's out there just yapping,, it's Phillies, New York, it's a divisional playoffs. And then it was like that little standoff moment we all get, and he's out there just yapping, and for me, that got me going, I'm ready to go. So I can only imagine being on the same side as him now. And now I'm with him, all those guys,

I can't wait, I honestly can't wait. Man, you got an unbelievable offensive line in front of you, have you ran into anybody on the offensive line side yet? No, so funny, not funny story. I talked to Lane at the honors and we just chopped it for a little bit. And he was like, you know, we'll love to have you and stuff like that and obviously you know the money.

And I was like, hey, I just want to win. So if we can make it work, we can make it work. That overrides everything. Did you meet anybody else when you were in for the visit or signing? Yeah, in the building? It was insane.

I met everybody. Okay. Literally everybody in the span of an hour, two hours. It can be a bit overwhelming I'm sure. So it's like, I like, I hope the first day I go in, I had them send me like, you know, everybody's name and before I get there I'm gonna make sure I go over it and try to learn everyone.

But like, I hope I'm not like, the first day I'm in there and they're like, you remember my name? And I'm like, I'm gonna make sure I go over it and try to learn everyone. But I hope I'm not like, first day I'm in there and they're like, you remember my name? And I'm like, ah, it's tough. I've met so many people. But just even from just being there for less than four hours, less than three hours, you could just feel the energy, you could just feel how upset everybody in that building, not just players, I'm talking about from top to bottom

about the way the season ended last year. And they're motivated and it's like, damn, like, all right. Like, it's like, that's refreshing. Like, I'm like, I can't wait to be a part of that. So I'm like a kid in the candy store, bro. I'm happy, I got a fresh start. I can't wait to meet everybody and just go out there and play ball.

I'll tell you what, man. And take that attitude there. Like everybody, you're right, the season ended with a sour taste in everybody's mouth in the building, but everybody knows a talent that is on the roster. And with adding you there, dog, I'm telling you, it's in a good spot. And you guys, the potential that can be reached is the best.

And I think that it's gonna be an outstanding environment has the potential that can be reached is the best. And I think that it's gonna be an outstanding environment all year round. Jalen, all these guys are gonna be rejuvenated. So, man, I can't, it's gonna be so fun to watch. It's gonna be so fun to be a part of. It's gonna be great. But I do got one piece of advice. I got one piece of advice.

Before you ask me to come back, I'm not gonna come back. I'm not doing that. I've done that. Do not go down at the one yard line. You gotta go down at the two. Go down at the one. It's curtains.

They didn't ban it, they didn't ban it. Jalen's gonna get that, he's gonna get that. He's gonna stay every time. A little extra motivation there, you know? Just know, don't go down at the one. You gotta find a way to get in the zone. Trust me, my boy,, you know Miles pretty well. I know how many touchdowns probably was taken away

from Miles just watching this film. I'm just like, man, just gotta strain a little more. There was one time, I mean, I remember being so happy when he got in the end zone. It was the year, it was his last year in Friggin. I was just so happy when he had a big year. Even you dreaded the play a little bit? Dog, whenever the running back got down to the one yard line,

whether it was him or D. Swift or whoever, especially when we ran the ball the entire drive, it's like, man, I would say I'm sorry in the huddle. I'm like, man, I'm sorry, bro. Like, this is it. It's... It's... That's gold, man.

Yeah, let's get to the Penn State career, man. Hell yeah. Yeah, you recently went back to Penn State to celebrate St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, I don't know, what was it like being back? You got a little Irish in there? No, I'm trying to think St. Patrick's. It don't gotta be Irish to celebrate St. Patrick's Day.

I think the weekend I went, I went for Pro Day. Yeah, I think that might've been St. Patrick. I got to go out, I didn't get to go out in bars and stuff at Penn State because I was never 21. And I got to go, I was out and I played, I was like a DJ for a night. I had that wild out. I was like, I tried something new, it was different.

But yeah, I don't got no Irish in me. I probably do, I think everybody got everything now. Like if you do that. Especially Irish. It trickles in everywhere somehow. Yeah, right. Yeah, do you give any of the young guys at Penn State any advice?

Yeah. You can speak to the team. I had, I got the chance to talk to the team. I will say this. Choose my words wisely here. College football is a lot different than when we were in college football. It's a lot different and just the mindset of the kids,

not just saying at Penn State, like anytime you talk to these college kids, it's a whole different process than what it was. So that was like kind of my thing when I talked to them. I was like, I know what college football is right now, but it's like, I felt like when I was there, especially my junior year, we really shit the bed.

At one point we were number two in the nation. We had a really good, we were up at Ohio State, Ohio State came back and beat us. Then we had another opportunity the next week because Ohio State lost to Iowa, and then we lost to Michigan State, and then that's kind of was our season. Little Big Ten ball, baby.

Yeah. That's kind of our season. So I was kind of just telling them to just lock in and focus because it's different now. There's 17 games. Like the college football is easy to explain. That's so crazy to me. It's going to be 17 college football games. Oh my gosh, I didn't even know this. If you make it to the college football playoffs.

And you go all the way, it's 17. Holy cow. So it's a different mindset. Like before you had to win the Big Ten Championship or you had to be undefeated or maybe only one loss and that's hard to do when you're playing Michigan and Ohio State every year and some years Michigan State's really good and Wisconsin sneaky good here and there so now it's just like More of my mindset I was trying to get them to understand is like you got to get to the dance and you guys can do something special because

We fold it we didn't we didn't accomplish me Trace Mike my teammates. We didn't accomplish me, Trace, Mike, my teammates. We didn't accomplish what we could have really accomplished there and as a vet or alumni coming back, it's like it would bring so much pride, not only to myself but all of us, if we could support you guys and you guys go out there and do it the right way and get the job done. Yeah. Hell yeah.

That's awesome, man. I commend you for going back and talking to them. We're getting fired up to shoot back to the Natty ourselves for alumni weekend. It'll be awesome. Was it always Penn State being a East PA guy? I was Rutgers first. What?

Yeah, I was Rutgers first. Rutgers? The whole New Jersey connection, I should say, the East Coast connection. I've been there my whole life, pretty much, right? And they were probably just getting into the Big Ten? Yup, they just was getting into the Big Ten. Rutgers offered me my sophomore year,

offered my JV film. Holy cow. So, yeah, JV film. Gotta get him early. We got a chance. I wasn't like a, I wasn't big recruit. I wasn't like a, yeah, big recruit. I got my stars later on.

But at the time, I was 16, 15, 155 pounds. I can't imagine you on the JV field. Why were you on JV? I was on JV, one of my best friends who works with me, he was the starting running back. Okay. That's how our school was. A lot of, you don't really play a young guy,

and to be honest, I wasn't that good. I wasn't really that good at that. I was kind of a late bloomer. I don't believe it. Okay. No, I swear. After my sophomore year, that's when I was like, I started getting that mentality

and I started getting into the weight room and started grinding and pushing myself. But Rutgers offered me straight off of potential that I'd never even seen in myself. Wow. And Coach Wilson, Norris Wilson, he was a running back coach at the time on the Flood. Obviously I ended up decommitted and I went to Penn State.

My first start ended up being against Rutgers. That's how it works. Yeah, and I went stupid and I remember Coach Flood was like got fired or something and Coach Wilson was the interim head coach and went up to him and I wanted to make sure because he's the one who gave me my, you know how it works in college,

you get a scholarship and then that's when other teams start. You get that one offer. You start buying in. Pulled me aside and just looked my eyes and I knew I'd seen something special in you. That one was like brought me to tears because I was like, this person, that's why you need some time.

Sometimes you need someone to have belief in you and take a chance on you and I'm forever grateful for, obviously I never played there, but I don't think I ever get to the point I am if it's not for that moment. Right on. Bro, that's crazy. When that new NCAA game comes out, man,

just do it with creative players. Just be like, this is what it would've looked like. It's you guys got to play NCAA with, yeah. Oh yeah. My year is literally the year to cut it off. I was seventh string in like a 54 overall rating at quarterback. I moved myself to running back right away.

My coming out game was against Rutgers too. Rutgers, they're good for that. They're good confidence builders. Shout out to everybody at Rutgers, man. I didn't mean that, I didn't mean that, guys. Cause they was in the big, that was Big East? That was the Big East days, yeah. And they were actually really good at first

when I was in school, because they had Brian Leonard. She Rice, right? Ray Rice. Rashid Rice, yeah. Rashid Rice. Rashid, shout out to Rashid. Right now.

But no, they were really good when I first got into Cincinnati and then we kind of took over after that. And then they started getting decent again, though, but they beat you your senior year, didn't they? Trav? Or was that Louisville? Didn't they? Didn't they? Yeah, yeah.

They got us, they got us. You over here talking trash. It was a good fight though. It was a good fight though. It was a good fight though. It was a good fight though. I'm just saying, it was a good coming out party. I had two touchdowns.

I was running behind your fat ass. Ha! All right, I'm actually curious about this. Being back in the locker room and everything, kind of being around the guys, do you still feel that college camaraderie, even though the NIL stuff is kind of like, guys can, and not only that, but the transfer portal,

guys can just, if they don't like their scenario, just get up and slide, right? Yeah. I wasn't really able to be in a locker room. When I was in a locker room, like there was right out there. It's just more of like, when you just talk to everybody,

it's just a different world up there. I never wanted to be a coach, but if I ever decided to be a coach, I would not want to be a coach in college. Damn. It's different. And you kind of got a little NFL to it. I didn't get a chance to,

if it's one thing that I really wanted to tell them that just crossed my mind, was like, have fun, like don't worry about the business stuff. Like obviously get your money, get your paper, I'm all about that. But like this, like you guys know, like the next level you get to is a monster, it's a whole different beast.

So have fun and enjoy it because you're gonna be searching for that for forever. And maybe like more and more times you're on winning teams, like probably your successful years when you won Superballs. The locker room was probably way more closer, but not to say that locker room wasn't close in New York, because we were really close, but just like you walk in one day,

your boy's with this dog, like with him, you're chopping it up, then the next day his locker's cleaned now, it's a new name. It's a new, like, you don't get that. It's getting towards like that in college now, cause you could just up and leave. There's no adversity, there's no like, oh okay, which is, it's hard cause like.

Everybody's story's different. I know I appreciated the adversity I got hit with in college. It put me in the tight end room essentially, so landed me a job. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's good and bad, right?

Like what the rules were where nobody can ever make any money off of their name, right? And the schools are capitalizing on all of it. Like that was the wrong way to do it too. But yeah, the allegiance to the university and your teammates that was like, really did feel like a family more in college, it just does.

Cause you're all bought in and there's not like the free agency portal which kind of takes place now with NIO, right? Like where every year guys can go wherever they want. And it'll work like that in NFL, you can't just up and leave because you don't have a good situation. Snip, snip and then now you're on the outside looking in.

Right. They don't teach nothing. Yeah. It's a good situation. Snip, snip, and then now you're on the outside looking in. They don't teach nothing. Yeah. It's a wild scenario. But I wanna get back to your DJ career. What kind of, were you playing, where were you playing? Little bit of everything? I was mixing it up, you know?

Little bit of everything? What's your DJ name? I don't know, I really thought about this. I was gonna buy a set. Oh, you got to, you know. I enjoyed myself that much. Go was gonna buy a set. Cause I enjoyed myself that much. Go ahead and get you the Pioneer. The Pioneer 400. I don't even know what number it is.

It's something like that. Pioneer, this is a turntable? Yeah, it's like the, yeah, I'm not even sure if it's the right one, I don't know. Just gotta throw it out there. We got some music to listen to. You guys got a free ad right there, Pioneer. I don't even know what you guys do, but if you do something electronically. You guys just got a free ad right there, Pioneer. I don't even know what you guys do,

but if you do something electronically, you guys just got a free pub. It's something about being a DJ though, like controlling the crowd. For sure. I had no idea what I was doing. And honestly, DJ next to me was kinda just telling me what to do when I was just a show pony.

Yeah, he's coachable. But I remember the one time, we were playing Dreams of Nightmare, and there's a button or it's like a slider We're like it's like the song still going but it's like, you know, it's for the crowd they could sing Yeah, and like I timed out the right time. I boom I push it up and like everybody screaming I'm just sitting in like my little brother And I like I like I left that moment I was like, damn, I might actually try this for real.

Just, got no Shaq, Shaq does that right here. Shaq's a DJ. Yup. DJ Diesel. Yeah, but I don't know. He's dub house though. Yeah, that's not my thing. That's not my thing.

I'm more like rap, and then, you know, I'll throw a little country in there. Oh, okay. But I ain't doing. All right now. Like the, Da, da, da. That's not my song. Great song though.

I don't know who sang that song with me. That's not, I'm not throwing shots, but that's not my thing. You give me enough tequila, I'll be out there on that dance floor. All right now. Well, that's too much fun, man. Obviously, you hold all types of records at Penn State, man.

I mean, the list goes on. Most career rushing touchdowns, most career yards, most receiving yards by running back. Like we said, the list goes on. Do you think any of them will get broken? The records are meant to be broken, right? No. No, that's what they say.

I mean, now that there's 17 games. There's 17 games. Oh. I didn't get the one that matters the most to me. Which one's that? The Russian Yards. Evan Royster got it. He played four years though. I was about to say, yeah. No diss to you, to OG.

You left before you turned 21, Saquon. Do I think, yeah, I believe so. I believe so. And like now, I'm at that point now, where like I'm year seven, where it's like, I look back on like some of my college stuff, like saves a tweet like now I'm at that point now where like I'm year seven where it's like I Look back on like some of my college stuff like saves a tweet like someone put a tweet out or I'll see and I'm like Damn, I was really raw. Okay, you don't understand it like in the moment. You don't understand it just now realize

The crazy shit I've ever seen on a football field you hurdled a man and second overall. I swear. Yeah, but I like to be in the moment. You did arguably the craziest shit I've ever seen on a football field. You hurdled a man and in mid-air took a fucking hit from somebody else and landed on your feet. Yep, that was, yeah. Like, you went airborne and trucked somebody while you were hurdling somebody.

It was the most freakishly athletic thing I'd ever seen in my life. Probably one of my better plays, yep, yep. Was that Iowa? Iowa, yep. You know your stuff, okay. Yeah, I remember that shit like it was yesterday, man. I was like, that was one of those

that makes you get out of your seat like. But I'm at that point now where it's like, I was like, damn, but do I think my stuff, like they have really good back right there now, they have two, Singleton and Fat Man, or Allen, that's his nickname, I don't know why I just said that. Yeah, that's what they call him. You're a fat shame.

But yeah, I feel like, I love that though. I love, cause I know what Royster and all those backs there meant to me, I would look up their numbers and look up their stats and be like, all right, that's what I gotta go get, I'm gonna go get it, I'm gonna go get it. I think it's cool to be in a position now where younger backs who come to Penn State, where I'm the pick, I'm the get it and I think it's cool to be a position now where younger backs who come to Penn State

where I'm the pick, I'm the pinnacle, I'm the one you gotta go get and I'm not like one, you know, oh you're not OG's be hatin' now. I'm not like one of those, I don't know, nah I'm not doin' that. Nah I'm just sayin' like in general. Like not just only football and all sports, but I ain't even want, you know you come to Penn State,

like get your God through. Back in my day. Right sports, but I ain't even, you know, you come to Penn State, like, do what you gotta do. Back in my day. Right, yeah, that ain't it. You couldn't last back in my day. Ha ha ha. One time someone told me a story. Y'all already played in the Powderpuff League. There was, yeah, and then he showed me his shoulder.

He did a hip drop check wasn't it? And his shoulder was insane, and I'm just like, no, I don't want that. Like, I don't want my body to be like that, actually. So it's like, maybe it was a good thing I didn't play it in your time. It's not like a thing to brag about. He was like, I did this in my shoulder

and I played through it. He was like, you probably shot it up with stuff that we can't shoot up now. And now this is looking this way and that way. I like my shoulder being like that. They probably weren't even telling him. They were like, hey, we got this stuff that might help you out.

We got a cream. It'll make you feel like. We have a topple. We got a topple. It'll just go right over the skin. You won't even know it's in there. There was something that guys used to take out. I think it was like DMSO.

Everybody walking around with new hips and new knees. They said it used to make everybody's breath smell like raw eggs or something like that. You ever heard that? Smell of something sulfur? I know exactly what you're talking about. It's uh, I've never used it. It's the horse's head.

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up in Detroit, Michigan. Is it Detroit? Yeah, I believe so. I think I was right on that. It is. Up in Detroit this year, man. I think it's cool that they're jumping around and doing that in everybody's homes.

So do I. I think it's cool, man. And it kinda gives everybody a broader experience of what these cities are really like. Yeah. Although there was something cool about it. I'm a little biased. It was in Kansas City last year, so I'm a little biased.

But there was something cool about it being in New York. Like, I don't know why, like, watching it as a kid, watching it was in Kansas City last year. So I'm a little biased. But there was something cool about it being in New York. Like I don't know why like, watching it as a kid, watching it always in New York, there was like a certain cache to it. But when it was in Philly it was dope. Yeah, we like to talk about everybody's draft day experience, man. You were literally, could have gone one overall.

I feel like everybody in the top three to five picks, anybody can go number one. It's just dependent on what team is needed for anything. Us Clevelanders over here, how close was it for you to go to the Browns? Not close at all. Oh, okay, gotcha, all right. Some guys never talk to the teams at all

and they still draft them. So everyone got their own different process. I never talked to the Browns once. I talked to them one time where it was like a sit down and I was like, so what's the word? Y'all not feeling me? And it was like, no, we just handling differently. This is not third and they gave me like the spiel.

So in my opinion, I never thought Cleveland Brown was a real thing. And I was really super excited to where number two was and where number three was anyway. So it was like, you want to be first as a competitor. Hold on, what the, hold on, what are you trying to say? What you trying to say about Cleveland, man? Maybe I, yeah, you right, I gotta be careful nowadays.

For some reason right now, whatever I say is getting twisted crazy. Yeah, let me not play into that. I wanted to be, like, I get to come home. Like I said, that story of me being a kid, that was, it fit everything. Right. I don't think Cleveland ever was a real thing,

in my opinion. I respect it. Well, you were second overall than the New York football giants in 2018. You were rumored to go very high and then top 10, but your draft stock kept going up. Were you at all surprised that you went second? Like was there ever a doubt that you,

I mean you were just talking about two and three, so you kind of knew. Yeah, I don't think there ever was a doubt for me that I was gonna go high. I think at the time it just made sense. Especially, you know, I'm realistic. Running back going number two at that time is rare and may not see it again. But for what the team had,

like the year before they went three and 13, but everybody got banged up, everybody got hurt, O'Dell got hurt, the year prior, that's when they made it to the playoffs, they were balling, they went to Green Bay and shit the bed. So it was like, from their mindset, they're like, all right, we know what we have in our team. We can add a weapon and he'd come in and bring a spark.

Eli's on the older age, but he still has some ballin'. I mean, that year he threw for over 4,000 yards. Damn! So we were like, it just made sense. And it was like, obviously I wanted to be there. And when I got drafted, I was like, oh man, like, okay, you mean tell me, we have Eli Manning at quarterback,

myself at running back, O'Dell Beckham Jr., Sterling Shepard, Evan Ingram. You guys were fuckin' stacked, for sure. And we balled, like, that year, and you all know it, it was like football, margin of error. Every year's different, too, yeah? And we lost like eight, seven games by like seven points or less.

And our offense, we were balling, like Eli had over 4,000 yards, O had 1,000 yards and he didn't play the last four games. Shep had like 800, 700, Evan had like 800, 700, I had like $2,000 on purpose. So it was like no one ever mentioned that part of it. We came in, our offense, we did what we had to do. Like we were putting the points, we were scoring,

we just wasn't finding ways to win games. You know? Next year, everything started changing. Yeah. I mean, I remember that stint with New York, and I think it was right at the tail end, right there with Eli, and offense was putting up, the defense was kind of trying to figure things out,

but I mean that's the way it goes in the NFL it changes quickly but that rookie year in 2018 were you I guess what was your welcome to the NFL moment like whether it be like a veteran saying something we already talked about the Flutcher Cox story JJY. JJY. Oh wow. Let me take that back. Mr was Eli Manning you go into the building and it's like shit That's fucking Eli Manning. You know, I mean I was a fan of the game Like I'm into that like I respect like I'm big. I'm big fan to y'all like I'm into that So like it was like, okay, that's Eli Manning, but in game we're playing Houston and we had a counter to the left

He won on the backside and still got to me before as I was getting a ball I mean that was like this doesn't make sense I you know, you guys know, you know, I'm talking about it doesn't that doesn't make sense I've been that guy on the backside of the block trying to get him and he made that he made that's what JJ so dangerous He was he was good enough to backdoor it and still and still yeah like boomy like it was like, like a boom, I was like, whoa, and I'm looking and I'm like, and then when you go back,

like it was crazy in the moment, and then when you go back and you're watching film, and it's like, I'm just like, no way he did that, like there's no way he did that. How do you know the ball was going over there? Like he's, he, that, yeah, him, I'm trying to think, Fletch Cox, Fletch, that moment, that story,

that's a funny story. That's a great one. But yeah, JJ bro, he was, Luke was, oh nah. Pepper, Julius Pepper. Pepper, yeah. Julius Pepper's. All the famous. They were just huge, enormous. Just like what the fuck, you a human?

He walks up next to you across the line, he's got the visor on you, just like bro, what the fuck, are you human? He walks up next to you across the line, he's got the visor on you, just like, bro, what the fuck, you, is this a crossword? Who is this? I'm a pretty strong dude, at least I like to believe I am. Yeah. He man-hittled me.

Like, embarrassed me. Like, it was a play where I bounced, and it was like a dead play, like, with Blue Whistle. And he had me like this, and I'm like, oh, you know, like, you know football is like, you know, you get into it a little bit. And I'm like, you know football is like, you get into it a little bit, and I'm like, well like, and then I just, it didn't go nowhere,

and then I was like, it didn't go nowhere again, I'm like, man you got it, bro, like let me go, you got it, like that was, that's probably, those are my moments. Breath! Like come on, you see this? You see this? He can't do that.

There's no reason you should be that damn strong. And that was the first time I experienced grown men strength. Not weight room strong, just grown man. When somebody's hands are so strong that you feel like they just have complete control over you, it is the most like, oh wow, this guy is another level of strength.

I felt that with Fletcher Cox. And oddly enough, Clay Matthews was the other one that had that. But he just had some strong ass hands. I'll tell you what, I talk smack to the wrong guy, James Harrison, man. That's not a smart one to talk to. Two court, you know who I'm gonna be.

Captain Biceps. I'm out here, I'm out, are you fighting? Sometimes, cross from whoever, you know what I mean? Anybody can get it. Call me the can man, anybody can get it. I ended up getting his wrath, because he played that outside backer position where sometimes he'd be over number two in the slot.

We're playing in Pittsburgh, I talked a little bit of shit to him. He's staring at me again with the black visor. Can't really see if he's looking at me, but I know he's looking at me. Because he doesn't say anything. Couple quarters go by, I'm looking in at the ball because it's silent cadence.

Timed it up perfect. Wow! Just absolutely smoked me off the line of scrimmage. Fucked up the whole play. I'm going to Alex like, I don't know what you want me to do there. I'm looking in at the ball, he's looking at my blind side.

Obviously never talk shit to him again. So. Yep, smart. Were there any things they made you do as a rookie in New York? Any rookie hazing or? Nah, we had a scene. You go up there, you sing, you go up there,

you say your contract, where you're drafted. Eli was a little prankster. He got me one time. You gotta watch out for those man inks. Yeah, he had this thing where he threw grass in my mouth. Like how he got, he's sitting there, he's like, man, my tooth been hurting me a little bit.

Like out of nowhere too, we in practice, and I'm like, damn, been hurting me a little bit. I don't know. I'm like, out of nowhere too, we in practice. And I'm like, damn, you got a lot of money, you probably should go get that, check that out. And he's like, nah, you see it? I was like, no, look, I'ma show you what it is. And I'm like, pow, and just threw grass in my mouth. And I was like, ah, ah. What a grand play.

What? What's happening? And it was like, at that moment, you just like, you start laughing and stuff. And I'm just like, that's probably like my only thing. And like I stole this from him. He like, I'll do it to the rookies,

I'll get the rookies where like he'll put the water bottle and then he'll twist it and it's not really on. You know what I mean? And then the rookies drink it. He never got me but I saw how he gets on. You gotta get him after a long drive drill too. Act like you're going over to help him like, hey man, way to run, way to run. You need some water?

You look thirsty. Dang, so you never had any Popeyes on the plane or anything like that? Y'all funny for real though. Y'all actually funny, like y'all funny for real. Y'all funny for real. Y'all don't have fun with it man. Nah, I'm Chick-fil-A, I'm on Chick-fil-A. Okay, there you go.

You went, y'all nice, you got the Chick-fil-A? Oh no. Oh, I was just talking, yeah, did you have to go and get it? Yes. Jason has a story where he had to go and get Popeyes and was actually late to the plane or just bailed on the Popeyes

so he wasn't late to the plane. Jay Stu, John the Stuart was my vet. So that's why I don't, all the rookies, I don't make them get candy, I don't make them do nothing. He was Carolina for a while, right? Yeah, Carolina. And he ended his career with the Giants. And it's like, I got you kind of a reflection of your vet

because he didn't have me do anything. I think I paid for one lunch, and that was like we had like a joint practice or whatever in Detroit, and that's the only thing that I can remember. So it's like for me, when I have my rookies and stuff, now that I'm the vet,

I really don't make them really do too much. Only thing I'll probably make them do is like, after practice, probably take my helmet or take my shorty pads. That's really it. That's the only thing I had to do. I don't do anything for the Titans either because I benefit from the offensive line.

The offensive line, you guys fucking put your guys through the ring. Yeah, I think that's everywhere. Every offensive line room. Listen, if there's one thing O-linemen are messing around with. You're earning your stripes. If there's one thing O-linemen ain't messing around with, it's food.

You gotta get that food to the point. Yeah. This is sweet, man. You rushed for 106 yards and scored a 68-yard touchdown in your first ever NFL game. What did that feel like when you got in that zone after that teddy, man? Yeah.

Amazing. It was kind of like a full circle moment because you think you can do it, you know what you did in college. Was it in MetLife too? Yeah, it was in MetLife. Oh, hoo, hoo! So I really didn't.

I would have cried. I didn't have a great game, the whole game I guess you could say. I don't think I would play bad, but that's when Jacksonville was like that. The defense. Dogs, Campbell, Jalen, Smith. Jalen on the outside. Like all of them.

Like they just lost to New England. Tampa Bay in the playoffs. Yeah. Or, yeah, right? Yeah. New England. Tampa's in a- Oh my gosh.

I'm thinking- New England. Tom Brady, I'm over here going straight to Tampa Bay. I'm screwing that up. Yep. So my first game, I'm like, I'm going against these monsters. But when I scored that touchdown, I had it like, it was pretty sick. I was able to, like, basically all the stuff

that they said I wasn't gonna be able to do in NFL, because you only could do it at a college level, I did it in that run. So it was like, more of like, all right, I took it in, but at the time I was like, oh, like, this is just football. Like, this is football. Yeah, well, when you're Saquon, it's just football.

I don't know. Yeah, everybody, I feel like when you're going in your rookie year, like the first time you're going out there, you don't know what to expect. You know, you played great up until that moment, but it's like, man, what is this gonna feel like? But yeah, when you break four tackles and run a 68 yard touchdown,

I feel like you're like, yeah, I got this. It was more of like, and I remember, and then like at first I let it sit in, and then the crowd started bugging, and I just started feeding off their energy, and so I started yelling, I'm like, ah, yeah, I really like that, I really like that. And then we had a two point conversion.

Got locked up, I ain't no shit. I ran the ball, they handed off and no way. Wasted a little too much energy. I know how that goes. The Giants have played the Eagles 13 times over the past six years. You were on the team over there in New York. You don't gotta go to the record.

No, no, no, we don't do that. The Eagles have. Yeah, we know, yep. That's in the past, that's in the past. Just wanna know your favorite moment of the rivalry. We don't wanna talk about the record. My favorite moment? I would say it was a playoffs game.

Before we even got to the coin toss, I'm in that mindset, I'm like, you know how you get in that mode? I'm like, all right, boom, boom. And we just went to Minnesota and played a crazy game. Ain't nothing like some playoff football, baby. Yeah, bro, I'm fiending, bro. I'm sorry, I can't you get in that mode? I'm like, all right, boom, boom. And we just went in Minnesota and played a crazy game. Ain't nothing like to play off football, baby. Yeah, bro, I'm fiending, bro. I can't, like, that's like one thing, like,

I never, it took me so long, took me five years to even get to that moment, and to like not being in there this year, like, that's like, you're like, once you get in there, you just addicted, and I can't imagine, like you guys done it at the highest level. You want a Super Bowl, and obviously you want multiples, like, so I can't imagine what that feel like.

But I remember I'm in my bag, I mean you know how you're talking to yourself and all you hear is like, that's when the Uzi song was popping and all you hear is like, da, and then them motherfuckers came out and it was like, I was like, oh shit. Jason was doing Lil Uzi in there. I was like, this is real.

Like Minnesota was crazy, the environment was crazy. It was dope, that's another stadium that kinda gives a college feel. Oh yeah, what, the link? No, I'm talking Minnesota. You talking about, cause they beat Minnesota to come play us. Yeah, the link from that joint, it was like, boom, you hear that, this ain't what you want.

Then they started walking out, I was like, oh my God. So that's probably my favorite moment, there's a lot of moments moments was games that we lost. I had a good- Environments though. You'll remember those environments forever. That's dope. You know, obviously, wasn't beating the Eagles.

You guys had to deal with a lot of change up in New York. You know, what have you learned from like the three different head coaches you played for? They just got their own style. Yeah. Everybody got their own style. Yeah. Everybody got their own style. They're all different. I'm now going here, it's probably gonna be like

my seventh or eighth running back coach in like seven years, going on my seventh year. Wow. So that's definitely tough and you know, that's why I admire all those guys that were there and still there in New York because you guys know like situations and stuff can really really help your career out and we've been tossed around thrown around this head coach that head

coach and I believe I still believe obviously I'm not there anymore I still believe Brian Dable is a really I don't believe I know he's a really good coach and yeah he's a he's the right guy to get him back on track but it's tough as a player, because this coach likes this, this coach like this, this coach like this. What it's taught me though, is like, I feel like I'm able to adapt

into whatever, you know, whatever the culture that they're trying to bring. And that was like my main message to Nick, to Coach Terrani, was like, you tell me, you know, what you want from me, not only as a player but as a leader, and I'm going to try my best every single day to go out and capitalize that and to go out and take advantage of it.

But that's what I learned, to be able to adapt and talk the business side of it before I got into the business side of it. You don't get numb. When coaches leave, it hurts, but it's not like, my first coach was like, damn, damn, fuck, I let him down. You know what I mean? That's on me. And then now you learn, you know what it is,

it's a business. I had coaches leave for good reason. Coach Nix, he just left to be the OC for Syracuse. So that's what taught me. The business side of it and how to be able to adapt and really knowing that, no matter what, you can't complain. You can't complain about your situation. No one cares, so don't go whining.

Just put your head down and come in every day ready to work and try to win and compete. I commend you for having that mindset, though, man. Not a lot of people are owning up and having that type of mentality to take it to heart and call themselves out first in some regards and just to make sure that I need to do everything I possibly can and if I need to make sure that I need to do everything I possibly can.

And if I need to make that get better, which I've never turned on a game film and have said, or like haven't said, I need to get that better. Every single game that I've ever watched of myself in terms of scouting myself, I'm like, man, I gotta be better, I gotta be better, I gotta be better.

And I don't think enough guys in the league hold themselves to that type of caliber and that kind of ability, so I commend you, brother. Thank you, appreciate that. And it gets hard with the turnover. I feel like every time there's coaching changes or there's a bad season, like Travis saying, a lot of people start either pointing fingers,

some guys are taking accountability, but it tries to tear guys apart. That's the hardest thing in my mind with like transition is like, how do you keep? How do you keep bringing everybody back to like, hey, we're on this, we're all doing this thing together. We're all going in the same direction, right? You know, it's so crazy though. That's why in New York, I never understood why we don't have more success than we should have.

Because I'm a firm believer in what you put in and what you get out. I'm with you on that. Even all of the turnovers, this is for obviously the guys that's been there and the guys that are still there right now, when I tell you buying in, and if you know the history, like Shermer, Judge, Dave's, all three different totally people,

three different totally people, those different, three different totally people, those guys that are still there right now and when I was part of them, no matter what, bought in, bought in, bought in, and worked, and worked. And whatever was asked, we tried our best, we tried our best and just, bro, the NFL is fucking hard. People do not understand that. That's like what you guys are doing right now in Kansas City,

you and Pat, like hats off to them, motherfucker. Cause from the outside, when you get in the league and you actually end, it's easy from a fan's point of view, but when you actually end it, it's so much more respectable. It's like, bro, it's tough. Even when you do shit the right way, even when you work hard, it's still football.

You got somebody can land on you this way, the ball can tip this way. Ball can tip this way. It's like, bro, it's crazy. I'm with you, man. I brought my guy, Mike Kafka over there. Yeah, Kafka's. He actually played with Jason. And then came to KC. And yeah, you already know,

he was one of my favorite offensive minds. You've been with a lot of former Eagles guys. Pat was with me. Oh yeah, I forgot Sherm was over there. Sherm was with us with Chip. He went Philly, did Minnesota. Yep. And then to John. Then came to New York.

I love Kafka. I like Kafka because it's like, this season, I feel like you learn more about people when shit's not going right. There's no questions. When shit's easy, it's easy to show up. And by any means, the Giants offense, when I was with them, obviously I'm gonna say we

when I was with them, we were awful this year. For a lot of reasons, you know what I mean? Like I said, it's easy to point if you can say this, but Kaeph, every single day, same person. He's gonna show up, baby. Every single day. That's why you love him, man. Every single day. I'm with you on that.

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Jason, you want to get into the running back market? For sure. We've heard for a while now, there's a narrative out there that the running back position has been devalued. You just became the highest paid running back in Eagles history by notoriously a GM that does not like to pay running back,

so congratulations. All right, man. Yeah, do you think it's starting to shift or do you think it's, I mean, I guess I'll lead this a little bit used you already said this a second ago. I feel like it hasn't been devalued for guys that can do a lot. You know, I mean, like you're a weapon. You're not just a standard running back. You can be that you can do everything else. Is that fair to say that? Yeah, that's where it feels like those guys are still premier players like McCafferty yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Check it. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with everything that you're saying 100 percent. And yes, the for the guys that are able to do multiple things and view it as a weapon. I don't think the market, because I'm not gonna get into numbers and what teams offer me and stuff like that.

Obviously I'm happy with the decision that I made. But it's like, like I said, there's a media looking at it, but it was like, when I got to the open market, what I believed in myself, and that's why I didn't set with the Giants offering before, I felt like I can get more. It was like, I had a good bit of teams, that really was all about me coming there

and with the price point being up there. I think it's a trend. It's just like the thing that was said last year. I kind of think there's some little BS behind it because all the Premier Bats got tagged last year. So we had no chance. We had no chance to get paid. And it's like, all right, and then when you get tagged,

like being tagged is the worst position to ever be in in anything, like you have no leverage. It's like they offer you this and it's like, what are you gonna do, you're not gonna play? And it's like, who's gonna turn down $10 million? It doesn't make any sense. But I'm happy where, like what I was able to get, and shout out to my agent, and shout out to my team,

like they worked their ass off for me. I feel like, you know, did I go and beat Christian and reset the market? No, and that's like, if you heard what I said before the year prior, like my whole intention was to never reset the market. It's to get the value that you deserve. That I feel like I deserve.

That's something I felt like was fair for me and that would take care of me and my family. That's your goal, you won't get to the second contract. But I feel like where I got, it's like, all right, now, B'John, Jameer, Najee, y'all boys, go beat me. Like, I'm a competitor, I'm trying to go out this year, especially with the situation I'm in now,

I'm trying to be the best running back. No question about it. But let's push each other, let's all drive it. It's easy to see what they're doing to the running backs is not fair. And I don't believe that. There's guys, I'm not taking shots of anybody, but there's receivers and there's positions

who have 600, 500 receiving yards or this amount of stats and they getting paid more than running backs. It's bogus, it really is bogus. It's crazy. But even same thing with tight ends, it's like, you have. It's bogus, it really is bogus. It's crazy. Yeah. But, like even like same thing with tight ends, it's like you're not just a tight end, you know what I'm saying? And you got wire receivers that are probably making

a fuck ton more money than you. With less production. And yeah, and it's not fair, but now it's like what I got, like, all right, like I said, B. John, Nigel, Jameer, all those guys, go do your part, go do what youall gotta do, and then we're gonna keep trending up.

I'm not saying we're gonna get into 20s and the 30s. That was my big thing with Teeqy. That was my thing with Teeqy. It was like, what he said was like, Teeqy, you're an ex-running back. You're an ex-NFL player. I get fans being upset about me going to Philly. Obviously they don't get the business out of it.

They're trying to really make it seem like it was me. I picked the Giants over Philly. Yeah, like out of spite almost. It's like, come on. I didn't have, first of all, the Giants didn't even offer me. They didn't even, it wasn't my option. I had four teams, but the Giants weren't my option.

Yeah, that's wild. But Tiki, you used that moment to, it wasn't even what he said, because he was like, chugging the cheek or whatever he said. It was a week leading up to that before, when it first came out that the Eagles didn't have interest in.

He's like, you're going to be dead to this fan base. You're going to do this, you're going to do that. It's like, I love seeing NFL guys. I love seeing OGs. I love seeing you guys. You have a platform. This is a place where you know ball, you can educate fans.

It's like maybe use that time to show, maybe this is why Saquon is going to Philly. Or maybe this is why he's gonna use it. The business side of it, use that to show. I'm not saying you gotta have loyalty to me because I don't care for that to be honest. But you are ex-NFL player, you are ex-NFL athlete. It's like, don't feed into the BS.

It's like, let fans do that. They're supposed to do it, they're emotional. Honestly, if fans wouldn't be mad that I went from New York to Philly, that means I did nothing when I was in New York, whether it was on the field or off the field. That means I made an impact at some point. That's the reason why fans were so torn apart about it.

And I see my jersey getting burned, my family was getting threats, my house. I see that part of it. We grew up in Cleveland, so we've seen a whole bunch of Lebron jerseys getting burned, and all of a sudden he came back and won a championship for it. Good thing I didn't burn mine. I'm not saying I'm on that man's level.

I'm not saying Lebron. Say Bron? Yeah, he's a whole saying Bron. He's a whole different beast. He's a whole different beast. What I was basically trying to say, get to I guess, was the running back market, what they're doing, how they're valuing, it's easy to say it's not fair, but it's on us. It's on us to change the narrative.

It's on us to go out there and go ball. Stay healthy, go ball. And it wasn't like a big drop off, like where Christian and Alvin, those guys, it could have been a big drop off, could have been eight, 10, but it's 12, and it's 13 or whatever. It's like now, like okay, like all right,

like Bijon, all them young boys, y'all do what y'all gotta do. Keep moving the needle, man. Keep moving the needle. Yeah, is this fair to say too, because I feel like there's more opportunities now for the running back potentially than ever. I mean, I know more teams are going pass heavy

unless they're Shanahan style offense, but like defenses continually go to these shell middle field open defenses. And I feel like the running back is like your best friend, whether you're running it or throwing it when people are in the two shell, right? They drop back and nothing's there, drop it off. And they want to stay in that.

And you have a really good running back and, you know, a good scheme, run the ball on them. And then it opens up the pass game. I've never understood too, like, even if you got a backer matching you off the ball, like, bro, throw it to this dude and make that guy make an open field tackle. Like it's going to be him one on one.

That's what I'm saying. Like now that ain't good enough. You got to have somebody else down there. We like that. But we like. Well congrats on moving the needle and doing your job brother. I think it's awesome to be able to keep stacking

and keep making that position. Get the value that it's deserved because you already know it's been sick for everybody to kind of see that throughout the league. Knowing how much of a wear and tear you guys take between the tackles and how much you guys really can do to help a team win, man. You know, there were a lot of running backs that changed.

I feel like, I mean, damn, they're half the league. The running backs switched over. Are there any guys that you're excited to watch in their new places? Yeah, I'm excited for all of them. I'm excited to see what Swift can do in Chicago. I think that's a unique spot over there. I like what they're building there too.

Jacobs, I'm a big fan. I got Ryan Poles over there. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Jacob's game. I'm excited to see all the backs. When I say this, I'm actually a true fan of the game. I like watching those guys. I generally like watching Christian, studying him or studying Derrick,

studying those guys, seeing what they're able to bring to the table. And it's like- Got that educating yourself, got the air you dite mentality. Yeah. I see you. So it's like, I want all those guys to go out there

and ball because that pushes me, that motivates me. It's like at the end of the day, I said it before doing Super Bowl, it's like Christian McCaffrey, in my opinion, is the best front and back in the NFL. That pains me to say, because I'm a competitor, and this is the era I'm playing in, I'm playing the same time as him.

So it's like, I don't want him to be number one. So it's like, respect, watch, learn from him, I could pick up some pieces, and that's the drive that motivates me to try to, you know, get to Philly and be like, all right, let's really see who's the best. It's all up here, baby. It's all up here.

We gonna see this year. Yeah. All right. the best. It's all up here, baby. It's all up here. We gonna see this year. Yeah. All right. Woo hoo. Let's get to No Dumb Questions. Let's answer some not dumb questions, because there's no such thing as dumb questions, just dumb people, and we got a smart one with us,

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All right, we're getting better at that though. We're getting better at that. For this one, we thought we'd, we'd do a throwback and bring one of our favorite questions for Saquon to answer. At Vink Isaac? Yep, nailed it. Could an average person gain one yard

on a rushing play in the NFL? Yeah. The average person? Look at Jets Jake right now. Ha ha ha ha ha! Jets Jake, come on camera so we can see what you look like. Jets, come on, come on up here. Ha ha ha ha ha! I gotta say this now, I'm just dissing, I'm just dissing him, right? No, no, you don't! Jet Shakes come on camera so we can see what you look like. Come on up here

Now I'm just dissing He's a Jets guy himself as well If you had it like run a 40 right now like under six seconds no chance What's No chance. So you're just, you're not helping to cause it all. Yeah, not at all. How's your vision? What's the play? 40-20, 20-20. What's the, like, what's the-

20-20 vision, that's a start. What's the play? I got, I can't like, actually, I gotta say, there's a game I had, because of New York Jets. I had 13 carries and one rushing yard. Holy cow. And I would say I'm a pretty good running back. At least you got one.

So you're probably not getting it. Yep, yeah, average person is probably not getting one yard. And he's out, all right. I had to think that one through. I think about it sometimes, because if a garden attack will destroy a double team, anybody could probably get a yard, but you gotta think about how slow it's gonna take them

to get to the hole. Now it's getting a little bit. He ain't getting it. And how fast everything changes, right? I'm slow it's gonna take them to get to the hole. Now it's getting a little bit, you ain't getting it. And how fast everything changes, right? I'm told it's best. Oh gosh. They wouldn't even know like. If the average guy's Jets Jake.

If it's outside zone, no shot. Was that a shot? My bad, Jake. I love it. You're above average in my heart. Above average person. Way above average person. That's what matters.

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You think it's not even close? I'm starting to close. Jalen, Jalen's got you? No. What? No. I'm like, I don't do that no more. I don't do that no more, but like, when I'm in my,

when I was like really in that mindset of squatting and like squat off, I out put myself up there with a lot of people. I'm watching this clip of, let's say, Kwan squatting 5.85 right now. Was that in college? Nah, that was last year. No, this is the pros.

Damn! And it's not even remotely difficult. I don't max out anymore, stuff like that. Those days are one of those days where it's like, you're like, oh, let's just push the fucking needle a little bit, let's put something on and just put a car Oh, but Jalen strong for he probably the strongest quarterback in the NFL You can squat ever see Bo. Go see what's what Tivo's a bit pretty big dude. He had a piece a quarterback

Well, you know Jalen power lifted when he was a quarterback. I'm a quarterback What? shots I'm a quarterback. Wow. What, I'm a quarterback? Five shots. I gotta say too. He moved a tight end. His last. Yep, bring it together. His last game was a tight end. That's all I'm saying.

I do a touchdown in the playoffs, all right now. All right now. After watching those two clips, that 585 squat was damn impressive. Jalen's pretty strong. He don't got the. Shout out to Tebow too. He's my favorite college football player.

Behind Cam Newton and Reggie Bush. I'm a better one squad, like one rep max too. Same. Yeah, I'm not like, I'm more of like. You're more of like an explosive. Put it on, give me a number, sit down, and stand the fuck up, like yeah. Do you know what the most you've ever squatted is?

The most I probably ever put on my back was in the 600s, but college, NFL, I never really got the chance to do, we don't do one rep max, so. Only one rep. Ran out of bar. The weights don't even fit on the bar at that point. You got the bands holding it on at that point? Yeah, right?

Yeah. That's where you feel bad. It just looks like a U. Just looks like a U when you pull it off of the rack. That's right. You use the Valsalva technique. It's where Jason. You fill up with air.

Fill up with air. You might be. And then what? Well listen, I guess when you've got quads as good as Saquon, you don't need the Valsalva. Yeah, he's probably, yeah. We had to use everything we could. Every technique that we possibly could.

Have you ever flexed out? What does that mean? Like you like, and then, and then all of a sudden you get real lightheaded. And then just hit the. And fall? Yeah.

It's a thing on TikTok. People have it all the time. I've got lightheaded before. It's one of my favorite segments. I don't think I've ever passed out. Flexing out? I had like, you know how we had this thing called ArtFest and it was a time where everybody would go out and party

and around the same time we would do our max out week. So I had those are the weeks where it would be more of like. It gave you power. You really maxed out. Probably, I think about it. In college you were able to do some cool stuff. It was different. You ain't lying.

Who is in your running back Mount Rushmore? You can put yourself, I got shamed. I got shamed for doing it. But like you are. You can put yourself in it. Shame. Shame. Yeah.

I'll be real. Yeah, you're definitely for sure up there in top four. Me, not yet. I haven't done anything in my opinion. Hopefully going to Philadelphia Eagles. Might change that up. Yeah, change that up. Save my legacy.

I can see it right now. But Mount Rushmore. All right, I gotta go Barry. Barry's the best player of all time with the ball in his hand. The best best player of all time with a ball in his hand. The best running back of all time. I'm talking about pass blocking, inside the tackle, outside the tackle, catching, Walter, Peyton.

Okay, sweetness. Sweetness. And this one gets tricky. Because there's one that you have to put up there. And my man just shaking his head because he probably know how I'm gonna say it. You have to. And I know people argue like,

well he played back in that time and you gotta go Jim Brown. Yeah. Jimothy, Jehemothy Brown. I mean, you're talking to two Browns fans, so. Yeah. And then, He was God.

Emmett has the record. Right. I love Curtis Martin, I'm not saying he's up there. Curtis Martin's like one of my favorite running backs. Do I go for Marshall or LT, man? I was about to say LT. It's LT or Marshall Falk for me. Yeah.

If I know as you said, four, but I'll say four A, four B. Like that's it. Jim Brown gotta be in there. Yeah. If I know as you said four, but I'll say four A, four B. Like that's it. Jim Brown got to be in there. Yeah. I also know he did a time, but like I was like, I have a book and like I said, my son loves football. And like it's like the NFL top 100 book. And like, I was just going through it and showing pictures.

He's always like, dad, dad, football, football. Like we're looking and like, they just had like Jim Brown stats on it. And I was like, he led the league in Russia. And like, he only played like they just have like Jim Brown stats on it and I was like Just like he led the league in Russian like you only play like eight years and you let it I'm pretty sure every single year and he was like a three-time MVP. Yeah, like I Don't care. That's it. That's not easy to do and is and he can act. Yeah, you can yeah Across the Syracuse Also hold up and he I think they only played like 14 game seasons

when he was in the NFL, too. So his stats are still comparative with too much games. But at the same time, he did play with white DBs. Yeah, I mean. There's a new one coming. Which is coming back around. There's a new one coming. It's coming full circle.

Listen. Just saying. It might hold up then. They might keep holding up. I believe it when I see it. All right. We can show up to 30 seconds of NFL footage on this show. What 30 seconds of Saquon footage should we have on?

Ooh, what's your favorite highlight? All right, one that shows the type of player I am will be against you guys, or us now. I gotta get used to this. Us now. Rookie year, caught a screen. I didn't score, but I had like a pretty dope screen. It was a chip screen, and I cut across the field.

And yeah, that was probably it. I think I vaguely remember exactly the one you talked about because I always watched his games. Setting up a screen for Barkley. Blocking in front, first down and Moore into eagle territory. Still going. Incredible. Yeah, that's another one you get up out of your seat like,

could he? You just hear Berman in the back, you're like, could he go all the way? Ah. I was so tired, I don't think I've ever been more tired after a play than that play. Oh man, yeah, I mean you were going like, almost numbers to numbers.

It was like high school, like yeah, it was not the level, I'm saying like. No, the net play. Oh man, yeah, I mean you were going like almost numbers to numbers. It was like high school, like yeah, it was not the level, I'm saying like. No, you already know. That's just dope. We did a little digging and saw that March 14th is Saquon Barkley Day. Ooh, in Pennsylvania. That's a dance party.

You already have your own day. In PA, that's dope. What goes down on Saquon Day? How do people celebrate in your hometown? They just squat? No, yeah, right. You're hitting P.A. that's dope. What goes down on Saquon Day? How do people celebrate in your hometown? They just squat? No, yeah, right. They just try and do leg extensions,

get those VMOs firing. The shortest shorts possible, get the quads out. How do you guys know that? Funny story, the day I signed to Philly was March 14th, it was Saquon. Yeah, nice. I told my mom that, I didn't want people to really know that. I didn't have a day.

But it's not like you celebrate, it was one day and I was going to my rookie year and I went back to my hometown and had like a parade and had all that and stuff and talked to the town. Why do I have a day? I don't know, but hey, I'll take it. Your hometown knows. I've been trying to convince Philly to get a Jason Kelsey day.

I think, yeah, I think we need one. The Jason Kelsey day is you're not allowed to celebrate Jason Kelsey day. That's what you do on Jason Kelsey. Fair enough. Go about his business as usual. I have a question. Yeah, go ahead. If y'all a question. Yeah, who is it?

If you had a drinking contest, who's winning? At a drinking contest? I'm pretty sure I've beaten Jason the last three to five times on a chug off. This is completely made up. First of all, what's the competition? What? We're talking about chugging, just chugging a beer?

So chugging and then like toe to toe. Toe to toe with what? Like who's calling quits? Oh, well I might drink more volume. I don't even think that's a question. What? To the toe with what like who's going who's who's who's calling quits? Oh Yeah, I drink more volume. I don't even think that's a question what yeah You think yeah, you're already down to 260 Class now to yeah, I know but I'm It's March we're in the same weight class right now I don't think you heard that he said you definitely are you're you're you're more ingrained

You've been drinking more than I he hasn't stayed out past 10 p.m Since 2017 did you not see me at your playoff games this year? Do you not see me at your playoff games? Do you remember any of that? Well, I know because I was drinking all day This is good. I love it back and forth We're gonna have to get to the bottom of this. We're gonna have to get to the bottom of this I'm with the games. I will destroy him because I got the mental advantage You're not beating me. I'm your brother Beer pong I'm not beating in for sure. Now. You've got a shotgun a beer who's winning?

Travis cheating Beer pong I'm not beating you in, for sure not. If you had a shotgun to beer, who's winning? Well the last time I shot to one, Travis cheated. It was after the Bills? What game was that? Was it Bills? We didn't shotgun to beer after the Bills game, did we? See, this is... I don't remember much at the end of the list. I was at the victory in all game.

You had a shirt on at that point, so. Yeah, all right, well, it's all like Donkey Kong, motherfucker, we're gonna figure out, we're gonna enter ourselves into this drinking contest, maybe at the shore or something. Ooh. Ooh. Are you a beer guy?

Yeah. So you're saying this, like, you could probably hold your own. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty, I'm, uh. this like you could probably hold your own. Uh, yeah We might even state Dry campus, I don't know how much Those games are lit so they're definitely not doing it just off of spirit. Right, right.

These games are fucking out of control. You been to one? You been to one? No, TV tells you everything. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah. TV tells you everything. They might need to get you to beer bowl. Your dad is a die-hard Jets fan

and has even worn Jets jerseys to games where you guys played against them. If the Eagles played the Jets in the Super Bowl, who would your dad root for? The Jets. That's tough. Stuff's left right there. He'd root for you to have a good game, right?

He'd be like, okay, I want Saquon to have a good game. He's a Jets fan because he's from New York, but the year he was born was 6'8", 9". And that year. There's no way your dad's like, get him, tackle him, god damn it. He doesn't even wear my jersey. I'm serious, he doesn't wear my jersey.

I got him a Joe Namath, Jets jersey. He wears that jersey. I mean, that's a good jersey to have. Joe Namath of the year, they won, that's when he was like, we're gonna win the Super Bowl, I guarantee that, in the third Super Bowl. So, he's never saw the J gonna win the Super Bowl, I guarantee that, in the third Super Bowl. So he's never saw the Jets win the Super Bowl. So yeah, I'm pretty sure my dad would,

I would hope, you know, he would probably switch up, but if I had to take a guess, I think he'd probably cheer for the Jets to win the Super Bowl, which is sad to say out loud. I love you dad. Yeah. I love you dad. I love you, dad. I love you, dad. Elyse, I mean, you understand it.

You understand it. I get it. Are you still the big hurdle guy? Yeah, now I am. On the advice from what your father even said? Yeah, I'm gonna get back to hurling now. Not your father, my bad, I read that wrong. Let me actually say it again.

Our dad banned Travis from hurdling. Yeah. You read the question wrong. And at the same time, dad. All right, those are instincts that got me to where I am today. All right? I'm gonna fucking hurdle somebody first game next year.

I love it. End up on my fucking head. All right, here we go. What do you got, Jason? The league announced it was banning hip drop tackles today. Yeah, how do you feel about it? I don't know why everyone's like bugging out about that. It's like, how often do you actually see that tackle?

It's not that often. Not at least. Everyone on social media like making it big, they're like, oh, we might as well just change it to flag football and this and this. It's like, I probably only can tell you like, in seven years, two times I've been like head drop. So it's like, I don't know how often that happens

in the game. I could be wrong. I don't know the stats behind it. There's a reason why they banned it, hit drop. So it's like, I don't know how often that happens in the game. I could be wrong. I don't know the stats behind it. There's a reason why they banned it, I guess. But it's one of those things, I feel like every time on the finish here, there's a new rule. Everyone just go crazy over it, freaks out. We play the first preseason game,

they're gonna look and find for it. They're gonna throw the flag just to show that they're doing it, and then you're gonna get in the season and it's not gonna be a thing. I hear you. I hear you. I think that's a very well-reasoned and correct statement.

Yeah, I still remember when they started really going after like targeting or like, I remember thinking, I was kind of on the other side of that where I was like, you mean, how is a defensive player gonna change this? Like he's just trying to hit the guy. But to the NFL's credit, like defensive players have for the most part stopped doing

it like they've, I mean, it still happens occasionally, but somehow they have been able to make that adjustment. And I kind of, I'm with you on this. I think the hip drop feels weird. Cause it's like, I don't think guys are trying to do that tackle when it happens. But I think now, you know, once people get penalized and

fined for it, I do think guys are going to go out of their way to not do it, which should in theory reduce the amount of injuries when it does happen. Even though it's you have your guys that you have your guys like everyone knows like how this person tackle her that person tackles and they're probably gonna have to change it up a little bit. But I really don't like they're like like, how you're supposed to tackle Derek or tackle this guy, it's like, I'm pretty sure you've been in the league way long to me,

you've been in the league way long to me, like really think about how many hip drop tackles, like you've seen, you've been a part of. I got the eject button, as soon as I start to feel somebody right there, I'm like throwing my feet out. Yeah, right? I'm just like, no! Get these feet up off the grass.

Man, fuck that. I don't even wanna think about getting tackled like that. The only thing that I think is gonna, to what you just said, Saquon, like they call it, they're gonna make a point of emphasis on it, so are they gonna call like guys when they're like rolling, and it's really not a hip drop tackle, but they're going out of the way

to like throw the flag? I think you're gonna to see a little bit of that early on and it's going to piss people off but in the grand scheme of things I don't see this being a huge deal. By week three, week four. Back in my day, you couldn't play back in my day. Okay? You couldn't play. You wouldn't make it. DMSO, you know what that is? You wouldn't make it. DMSO, you know what that is? Your breasts will smell like straight egg salad all game.

We appreciate you joining us, bro. Evil Cooler in person. Wish you all the best in Philly, man. You deserve all the money in the world. You've been doing it the right way. Keep doing it the right way, man. And thanks for blessing the 92 percenters of me and Jason, dog. We appreciate you.

Thank you guys, appreciate you guys too. Honor, honor. Man, I can't wait to watch your ball out this year. I'm excited bro, I'm excited. It'll be fun. What a guy, man that shit was fun as hell. I'll tell you what. You guys are actually funny as hell.

We tried to have fun with it man. He was awesome man. Dude, he's great. I'm gonna be practicing my drinking skills now just to make sure I whoop your ass. I don gonna be practicing my drinking skills now just to Make sure I whoop your ass. I don't even have to practice Travis. It's just what I do you It's just what I do at Cincinnati drinking games. I still think I got it You're saying I don't got it anymore. I'm saying I

Peaked in college if you're not riding a bike if you're not out there on skates, you don't know how to skate the same. I think I proved in the postseason that I still got what it takes. Listen, you blacked out. Pat even said I was the MVP of the post-Super Bowl one. God damn it, Pat. Fucking feeding this man this nonsense. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights, everybody. Thank you, of course, to say quads.

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