New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Tight End U Surprises, Speedos at the Shore & Brad Pitt on F1, Chiefs Dynasty and More | Ep 146

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

92%ers welcome back another episode of New Heights, brought to you by our friends at Audible!On today’s episode, we're still figuring out the next movie in the New Heights Film Club, react ...to “Pin-Up Travis,” and show off some brand-new uniforms from the University of Cincinnati.Jason reveals all the chaos from year 5 of the shorebirds, which featured bikini waxes, charity speedos, and we find out who limped away from the stupidity that was Beer Bowl III.Travis breaks down everything that happened in Nashville at TEU, from getting to meet Jeremy Shockey, all the knowledge he dropped on his fellow TEs, and all of the celebrity surprises you might have heard about.And finally, we had a great conversation with Hollywood legend and star of F1: The Movie, Brad Pitt. The guys talk about the crazy behind the scenes production of this movie, our shared love of sports movies, Brad’s favorite Chief’s moments, how he ended up getting abducted on “jackass,” why he’s always eating in movies, and more!Oh yeah, and Travis might eat mayo at the end of this episode.Check out F1: The Movie in theaters now!For even more New Heights, check out our New Heights YouTube Membership! As a member, you'll get access to full episodes, bonus videos, badges, and other stuff that will make you stand out.You can also listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify....Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwFollow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show:https://lnk.to/newheightshowCheck out all of our new Red, White and Blue merch collection at https://homage.com/newheightsSupport the Show:AUDIBLE: Sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.com/newheightsPERPLEXITY: Discover fast and reliable search with Perplexity today. https://pplx.ai/new-heightsHELLMANN’S: After being challenged by Will Levis, see if Jason can convert Travis into a mayo lover with the help of Hellmann’s spicy mayo. Mayo lovers, challenge the haters in your life to Eat Their Words, just like Travis. https://hellmanns.com/eatyourwordsAMERICAN EXPRESS: For full terms and to learn more, visit americanexpress.com/withAmexKINGSFORD: Grill with Kingsford https://www.kingsford.com/ALLSTATE: Checking first is smart. So, check https://Allstate.com first for a quote that could save you hundreds.DRAFT KINGS: Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using dkng.co/newheights or through promo code NEWHEIGHTS.GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT. Eligibility restrictions apply. Terms: draftkings.com/sportsbook. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $150 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 8/3/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to new heights early and ad free. Plus, unlock access to exclusive episodes of the show. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify today. Agent Nate Russo returns in Oracle 3, Murder at the Grandview, the latest installment of the gripping Audible original series. When a reunion at an abandoned island hotel turns deadly, Russo must untangle accident from murder. But beware, something sinister lurks in the grand view's shadows. Joshua
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Starting point is 00:00:54 which you know what the Brazilian is? Uh-uh. That's the bikini plus the butt. They do a little butt strip, and I was like, ah, you know. Who? Well, they said the butt's actually not as painful. I don't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Kyle is about to say, Jason, that's the one thing you could have used. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ah! Ah! Ah! Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A Wondry show produced by Wavesports and Entertainment and brought to you by Audible. Yeah! Who wants to read when you can just listen?
Starting point is 00:01:32 That's a good point. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Gunz. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Hey! How are you doing? Subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media, new height show with one as Jason tell the people what
Starting point is 00:01:49 we got coming up, please. I beg it of you. Oh, we got a stacked episode this week, Trav. That's right. We're going to talk about Jason's week down the shore celebrity bartending, potentially some bikini waxes, beer bowl three. And also, as everyone else saw, Travis, shaking it off with a special guest down at tight end university, broke the internet there for a couple of hours. We've also got some no-dem questions. Movie club updates, maybe Travis finally eating some mayo. We'll see what happens. Oh, and yeah, Brad fucking Pitt is on the
Starting point is 00:02:24 episode, ladies and gentlemen. That's right. He's stopping by. Brad Pitt. Travis, you already know this. We already talked to him. But yes, he's in the episode. He's going to talk all things F1 the movie really just F1 in general, the guy's a huge fan of cars and racing, his chiefs fandom, and some more shenanigan thingies. Whatever. First, it's time for new news. New news coming in. New news. Film club updates. We asked you guys to help us pick our next film clubs. And here are the top four most liked suggestions. Pretty Woman, the Hannah Montana
Starting point is 00:02:59 movie, most popular response by far. Man, that sounds miserable. Okay. Parent Trapped, most popular response by far. Man, that sounds miserable. OK, parent trapped. Ten things I hate about you. Do we have to go with these four? No. So there are a couple other suggestions that I thought were interesting. OK, nice. One, it is the 50th anniversary of the all time greatest summer scary movie ever created.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Nice. You are hooked on the scary deal. All right. What do we got? Jaws. 50th anniversary. Dude, I mean, I've seen it a bunch. It breaks every rule we came up with yesterday. Last week, last episode. I've seen it. It's not for kids.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Like, although I did watch it as a kid, and that's a reason why I didn't go swimming in pools, because I thought the sharks would somehow get through the ventilation system. You went to every pool I went to. I was terrified though, every time I was in them. Like you were only terrified when you were alone. I was terrified anytime I was in the deep end. Even in John Carr?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Dude, all of them. I swear to God, I don't know why I would think that these sharks could get through the ventilation systems or something. But Jaws fucked me up bad. And it's an iconic movie. Another one that I think would be pretty epic. I worry that it's not like there's not enough people today that have seen the movie. Like this is definitely a different generation. Just before ours. Never ending story. I bet you've
Starting point is 00:04:18 never even seen the movie. And I think I've seen it but I only remember like the dog dragon kind of creature. So I would I think it would be a good movie. I do remember. I remember the dog. Yeah. Right. Or whatever that was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 So I think that one would be pretty awesome. I thought both of those suggestions were good. I kind of like going with some of these cult movies like Princess Bride. Princess Bride is a fucking great movie. Oh, I want to watch it just because you haven't seen it. Maybe here's what I worry about with Hannah Montana. It's too niche and not enough people are going to know it outside of the select few amount of female watchers that were born in the 90s. That's what I worry about with the Hannah Montana movie. It's not even 90s early 2000s with this movie. Come on, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's got to be two, mid 2000s. Right. Cause we were already, this is a way from us. 10 things I hate about you. I mean, I'm kind of in on rom-coms. I don't know that that's the best one. Brandon, look up cult classic movies, top cult classic films. We're doing this over again. We're doing the same exact thing we did two weeks ago. I remember 10 things I hate about you.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I just don't I don't like where this list got to. I just am not a fan. Do you want to just punt on this and we'll do it another week and we'll just cut it out of the episode. Well, I want to see what people say about the never ending story and I think never any sure it'd be a good one. We said we were just going to pick. We said we were just going to pick once we saw the suggestions and now we're going back
Starting point is 00:05:43 to more voting. Well, okay, then fine. Pick never and I saw somebody suggests never-ending story never-ending story We'll throw that up there princess bride was another one. You want to do ten things I hate about you I think we never narrowed it to a vote. These are just the four most suggested Yeah, we said we weren't gonna vote. We said you guys were just gonna look at suggestions and then pick one All right, we're changing our fucking minds brain. We said you guys were just going to look at suggestions and then pick one. All right. We're changing our fucking minds, Brian. We do this all the time. I know we're changing our fucking mind.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Jake is Jake has unlimited time to make a fucking voting thing. All right. He's going to be fine. Jake. You don't know that he's busy. He's very busy. He's a very busy boy. I mean, running the New Hyde socials is a busy job. I understand that. I'm not busy at all. We can do whatever we want. Fuck you, Jake. I gave you it out.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I gave you a goddamn out, Jake. I got all the time in the world. Perfect. So we got Pretty Woman, Austin Powers, Princess Bride. Do we do Never End Your Story? There you go. I feel right. Or should we do another one of their movies? Jaws. Jaws. Jaws. Jaws. Those are the four.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I think those are the four. It's the 50th anniversary of Jaws. I would love to go back and dive deep on little Jaws. Jaws. Jaws. Jaws. Those are the four. I think those are the four. It's the 50th anniversary of Jaws. I would love to go back and dive deep on little Jaws action. Put it to a vote. Perfect. Boom. All right now. See, that's how it's done, Brandon. Yeah. Gosh, we got there so much quicker than last time. All righty. Another new news. Travis has gotten a pin up now. Holy schnikes. I don't know if you guys saw this. It happened quick. Yeah, it did. And it was. How does it happen so fast?
Starting point is 00:07:07 It is. Listen, there's a lot of half naked Kelsey's going around the last couple weeks. All right. Our friends at Accelerator challenged someone to get a Travis Kelsey pinup tattoo. I didn't know Accelerator put this ask out. I didn't see that. Rocket block, baby. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Drake Accelerator. If somebody gets a pinup Travis with Accelerator tattooed, we'd have to give them an insane amount of cases of accelerator. I'm assuming that's just good for free accelerators. Yeah. Listen, that's good marketing right there. It's good. That's how we get it done over there. Accelerator. That's what we do. Oh, my God. Nick Jones is a police officer from Ohio. A police officer got this tattooed. That's hilarious. And he got 25 cases of accelerator and assigned Kelsey Jersey. There you go.
Starting point is 00:07:58 There you go. Shout out to Jonesy. Yeah, Jonesy Jonesy is saying here that the tattoo comes with a funny story. And honestly, it's pretty great tattoo anyways. Plus, I've got to show some love to a fellow Ohioan. Nice man. Shout out to the obey. Dude, it's a freaking great tattoo.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Regardless, even if you don't even if people don't know this is Travis Kelsey, this is a fantastic freaking tattoo. Balzy, Nick Jones, love it. Jones admits the reception has been mixed. I don't know that we need to encourage more. Accelerator, baby. I think we should stop with the pinup tattoos at this point. How bad do you want accelerators? But I do think that we should reward the artists
Starting point is 00:08:43 that have been coming up with these tattoos and something like we need to create products that pay these artists for their artwork. What do you think about coming up with some new heights, temporary tattoos with this artwork on them so other people can potentially have the pinups on them. Maybe just throw some shorts on me if we're going to do this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:09:06 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, if people are doing this on their own cool if we're gonna be a part of this it's gotta be shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts shorts I kind of think that defeats the purpose a little bit dude maybe we can figure out something god God damn, that was hilarious. What would we give to have somebody create a Jetschake pinup tattoo? That'd be pretty epic. That'd be fucking hilarious actually.
Starting point is 00:09:36 What would we give them? I don't know that we have much to give other than money. Yeah, like a signed jersey. Yeah. That's fucking cool. You get to come on the podcast? Yeah, no, that'll get you... Listen, I'll bring you on the pod if you get a pinup of Jetschake. Yeah. You get to come on the podcast. Yeah. No, that'll get you. Listen, I'll bring you on the pod if you get a pin up with Jets Jake. Yeah, you get to jump on the pod and ask any question you want. I mean, anybody that gets a tattoo of Jets Jake is going to be an interesting person. So they're probably going to be great on the pod. Probably be a fucking yeah, big show. It's a good point. Yeah, I think that's it for the pin up talk. We're good we're good. Well done. Shout out to Officer Jones. Officer Jones. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Breaking news. Last item of new news. The University of Cincinnati has sent us an exclusive look at the brand new Nike jerseys. That's right. We're the first ones to see them. I don't even know if the team see them. This might be the first time the team sees them. Let's see these puppies. Here we go. Did you not get them?
Starting point is 00:10:28 I did. They're in Kansas City. I'm not in Kansas City. Okay, I got you. I got him. I got him. I got him. I got him. I got him. I got him. I got him. Hey, um, you see it? It's a good, they went a little retro, little retro with it. I dig the outline. I always forget you were number 60 in college. I was. I mean it looks like a Cincinnati Jersey. They went more sleek this year. And I'm a fan with that. I think sometimes the colleges go a little bit too much. I think those are clean. You got a white one? We also got the pants. No, no, no. We just got black. Okay. Black is better. Black is slimming. Slimming. Black is slimming. No, no, no. We just got black. OK, I know black is better. Black is swimming. So let me guess living.
Starting point is 00:11:06 No offense alignment likes to wear white. I mean, they're clean. They're very clean and they definitely have a little bit of a retro look. Are the numbers different? Are they different style numbers that we go backwards in terms of like like I think numbers that we used back in the day.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I think what's different is that they have like the red outline around them. I don't ever remember that having it. Okay. And I'm sure the styling is a little bit different too. Yeah. This thing is nice. I'll tell you what, those things are gonna look sweet when we're in fucking Arrowhead.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That's right. Laying an ass whooping on Nebraska. Fucking go, cats. The corn down by the river. I see you're gonna squeeze in this thing. The corn down by the river. I see you're going to squeeze in this thing. This is this is this is what happens when you know, I mean you lose a little weight guys. You can start squeezing into things a lot easier.
Starting point is 00:11:55 How do I look dude? You got so thin that number 60 doesn't look good on you anymore. I know that's how thin you got. I'm like I look like a long snapper now. Yeah, I need a big old keg on the waist and like a long hair. Do I go back to number 48? My linebacker numbers, would that look better? That would even look more like a long snapper. 48's a long snapper number. I think 40s are probably where you... Where I would sit.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah. So where's the 40s? So depressing. 45, a nice 45. Nice 45. Nice 45. Oh, a 4-4 All-Star. 4-4 is definitely the best 40 number. All-Star was 4-4.
Starting point is 00:12:41 All-Star was 40. Good call. Right? Sorry. Yeah, correct. Sure. You're4. All-State was 40. Good call. 40, sorry. Yeah, correct. You're correct. Yes. Somebody else was at Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:12:51 44. There were like two all-time great running backs. They both were 44. Is Jim Brown one of them? Yep. Jim Brown and Ernie Davis. Those are the two. Nice.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So yeah, I'll take a little Jim Brown all day. Nine yards of pop, high school baby. Let's go. What a legend. I mean, I ran like Jim Brown. I told. I was basically Jim Brown in high school. That was like a reincarnation.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I want to apologize right now because I told Busted with the Boys, I was on, I hung out with them. Apologizing to who, me? Yeah. What did you do? I told everybody you were in the marching band again. Why do you keep spreading this misinformation? Because you could have, you could have done that and you didn't do that. But that would have been
Starting point is 00:13:37 so bad ass because you average like 20 tackles a game. Yeah. If you would have done that, nine yards of pop on off saxophone in the pop on offense. And then just been out there. I mean, I would have done it if Mr. Baker would have made me. But Mr. Baker was a football guy and he was like, no, you need to be getting your halftime adjustments. We're not going to be doing this. Mr. Baker knew it. Yes. Yeah. Mr. Baker was good. And I also played in the jazz. I was doing tons of extracurriculars in the band. I think it's hilarious. Nobody else thinks
Starting point is 00:14:05 this lies. Nobody thinks it's a lie. Because that's what kids do. It's not. It's like, it's not even a far-fetched lie. Like, it's not even like you're, you won't believe this. It's like a bunch of kids have to do that. And like a lot of high schools. Yeah. It's just, there's a numbers thing going on here. Well, I guess that'll be fun. There we go. All right. What else are we talking? Do you guys talk a little bit of Cincinnati match up with Bustin with the Boys? You know it, baby. You know, they're very confident.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And also, I did realize this. We are in like we're in Nebraska country out there. Oh, yeah. But it's still going to be it's going to be in the corn husks. They they travel pretty well. I know a lot of people that to be. It's going to be. And the corn husters, they they travel pretty well. I know a lot of people that are travel. It's like a fucking two hour drive for them. It's three from Omaha. But yeah, it's we're going to need to travel to cats.
Starting point is 00:14:55 We're going to need some people to stand. So it doesn't feel too crazy for our boys on the field, baby. Let's go. It's going to be ruckus, but that just brings the energy. Who cares if it's home away? Who gives a shit What's a How are they saying? Right all the looks dad dad was an all-time center for the Detroit Lions very confident to be fair will does this every year?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Doesn't matter who their poo their guys are he they're going to state. They're winning at all wills a big false confidence guy I respect the fuck out of it. I respect it. As you get older in the NFL. I can see right through it. As you get older in the NFL, when you're young, you kind of hate guys that are like rah rah bullshit and type of this. Will you shut the fuck up? I don't need to hear this right now. I'm just trying to get my day started. And then as you get older, you're like, God damn, I kind of need that guy kind of shouting. I got zero energy right now. I need that. Need an energy guy. No, I respect it. Yeah, it's gonna be a fun matchup. Yes, sir. All right, now let's get to what a lot of the people are waiting for. What's up? We got out of the house.
Starting point is 00:15:57 We did. That's right. Out of the house is brought to you by American Express, Jason. I think we should start with you. Start with us? Okay. Yeah. The least exciting of the outs out of the house. Alright now, Jason, let's get to what happened on the shore this weekend, man. The shore, yeah, sure. Yes, please. And you already know, we were both doing our own thing.
Starting point is 00:16:21 That was at TIDA and you were at the Beer Bowl, raising a bunch of money for the Eagles Autism Foundation, as you guys always do. I swear, so solemnly swear that I will never miss an Eagles Autism at the Shore ever again. I had so much FOMO watching all the videos. It was good. It was a fun time. Year five of the Shorebirds is in the books. It looked absolutely epic. Cooper de Jean, Sydney Brown, Sydney Brown, a bunch of familiar faces from the Eagles always showing up. Brandy Graham always always a fan favorite out there for sure. I didn't see that many videos of Kylie this
Starting point is 00:16:57 year. I want to we want to know where Kylie was there out there. She was there's a picture of her flipping me off. That one I just saw today. I remember it happening. That makes me happy. Yeah. I mean, listen, who doesn't everybody knows flip off by someone you love is an endearing thing, right? Of course it is. Let's start with the boat. Bo Allabet, though. I mean, that was the one that went viral. For those of you that don't know about it, Jason, please catch everyone up.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah. So, I mean, we did we mentioned this on a previous show. But yeah, I think everybody saw the viral moment with the speedo. We did talk about in the podcast. So Bo Allen, I've been in a weight loss competition for the last three months. And the bet was you get up, you get two points for every percentage body fat loss and you get one point for every pound of muscle gained. Bo Allen in three months lost 2% body fat and he gained four pounds of muscle rounding for the sake of argument. So he was roughly close to eight points. And I lost about 3% body fat but I gained no muscle. I was really like 2 point, like over 2.5% body fat but I gained no muscle. They pretty much stayed flat. So, I lost. See, that's what people don't understand is people don't understand us Kelsey's, people don't understand us Kelsey's.
Starting point is 00:18:23 There's still some fucking, there's still some fucking there's still some strength even in our fat. Oh for sure. It's one of the things that allowed me to play in the NFL for so long. That's what I'm saying. I think I'm missing it. I think that's one of the reasons I got injured, but we'll talk about that in a second. So anyways, I ended up over the course of this whole thing ended up losing close to 3% body fat and I actually lost, I think over 10 pounds, right about 9 or 10 pounds of fat. So ultimately, we're both winners in my book, but I definitely was a loser of the bet. So I had to wear Speedo. The bet was loser has to wear a Speedo at this Ocean Drive event. And for those of you that remember, I didn't think that was enough.
Starting point is 00:19:01 at this Ocean Drive event. Yep. And for those of you that remember, I didn't think that was enough. Smart by me. So we talked about maybe adding something else to it. And by far the most asked thing from our fans was that Jason also get waxed or that the loser also has to get waxed. So the bet ended up being loser has to wear a Speedo and get waxed before the OD event. Like, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What kind of, what kind of waxing was this? I did a
Starting point is 00:19:31 bikini wax. You did a what? A bikini. I did a, I did a bikini. And thank God I did because this thing would have looked so much worse if I wasn't waxed. I mean, it would have been even more gross. How was that? I mean, it wasn't fun. I will say the people at I'll shout them out. The people at European wax down in in Philadelphia did a great job. They made it as comfortable as they could. I had a great technician. I had a great technician. I'm not gonna lie. I'm trying. I understand why women do it. And I understand why men I understand why women do it and I understand why men. I understand why some men get it. It's not, it's probably not a thing that I'm gonna redo. They tried to talk me into the Brazilian, which you know what the Brazilian is? That's
Starting point is 00:20:17 the bikini plus the butt. They do a little butt strip and I was like, ah, you know. Well, they said the butt's actually not as painful. I don't want to do it. I don't know what it is. I don't like anything in that crease. Nothing's been in that crease other than my own hand. I don't like anything in the crease. Yeah, the crease, that's a no-fly zone for me. And Kylie's response, Kylie's response was, Jason, that's the one thing you could have used. I was trying to think of, you know, where do I get, Jason, that's the one thing you could have used. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I just saw a picture of the waxing. I just sent him the picture. I just sent him the picture of the waxing. Do you guys want to see the video? We should save some for your YouTube page. Dude, this could not see the light of day.
Starting point is 00:21:12 This could not see the light of day, dude. Oh, it saw the light, Travis. Bro, it's bad. It's a vulnerable, it's vulnerable positioning. I felt. I'm not a fan of it. I mean, I am. Listen, I'm not trying to knock people that do this because I get it a fan of it. I mean, I am. I'm not trying to knock you with this because I get it. Look great. So my phone
Starting point is 00:21:28 Travis my phone to your eyes, brother. Oh, my fucking God. Jason, I need you to work harder. You need to work harder. The butterfly. The spread eagle is hilarious. I mean, so I walk in there. It's I'm telling you right now, I have no idea what I'm getting myself into. I've never done this. Obviously, I've never, and I walk in there and right away, the technician says, okay, remove everything from the waist down. I'm like, excuse me, like we're just, everything's off. And like, yeah. Okay. Take that off. She's then they say now assume the butterfly position.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I was like, excuse me. What are we talking about? Nice butterfly. Yeah. Yeah. So I am filleted open. I'm full. I look like a spatchcock turkey down there on that table.
Starting point is 00:22:24 You laid yourself. Dude, it was the most vulnerable I've ever felt. But no, I think I took it. I think I took it like a man. I will say women have been hyping this up. They're like, oh, men don't know what we go through to like, am I listen? I got this. I got it. Ripped your ball sack off. I will say I'd rather I'd rather play football than have that done any day of the week for sure. Fuck that. I got like one strip of chest hair waxed when I was in college and I will never do that
Starting point is 00:22:55 ever again. I just want to hear the scream. Did you scream or did you just go, ah, dude? I just kind of, you know, I stayed pretty stone-faced. I purposely, I didn't want to I purposely I didn't want to show. I didn't want to give into what Bo wanted. I didn't want to show that type of in the inside. I was screaming though.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Well, they're no. He would have taken a lot of pictures and they all would have seen the light of day because he has no shame. He is hilarious. Oh, man. Well, a man of his word, ladies and gentlemen, a man of his word. Very nice. Listen, let's get, let's get, go ahead. It helped raise a lot of money, raise a lot of awareness for Use Autism Foundation at the end of the day. The video went absolutely viral. It went nuts. Everybody was laughing their ass off
Starting point is 00:23:39 or completely confused at what just happened and why you did that. So there's a mix, there was a lot of mixed reactions. The one thing that everybody did see was the girl in the blue shirt. I almost took out the person right on the side right there. Duck Wow. Oh my god, a two by four right to the noggin. I would have cut over to split it. Did you how did you get the pants, the Tearaway shorts? I've never seen those. I told you the Chubby is the Chubby's product.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's like a bundle. I had it at the house. They sent it to me to potentially wear it the last one. I was like, I'm definitely not. Yeah, they sent it. They sent it. I didn't buy it. They sent it.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Chubby's has been good and sponsored the event for a couple years now. So they always send some options to wear for the event. Chubbies was both in the shore and Titan. You proud sponsor of the guy Travis was with you and flew the next day to go to beer ball. Shout out to Travis. The legendary move. There we go. We got to talk about the blue shirt girl just having the time of her life. Yeah. Getting a full frontal show.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I mean, she's directly underneath you, seeing every single square inch. I don't think she saw. Freshly waxed. No, no, no. She's more to the side, honestly. I think this is a shock at the tear away action. This is so it was a funny. It was a funny reaction. It was a fucking hilarious. at the tear away action. It was a funny. It was a funny ass reaction.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It was a fucking hilarious. It's like so innocent. Sam and I actually got together later in that day and recreated that photo. There's a picture of that if you want to try and find that one Brandon, but yeah, she became an instant meme. So sorry about that. Sam hope hope you're doing good again, we got to get back to it.
Starting point is 00:25:27 What did Kylie think of this? She thought it was funny. Again, she was upset I didn't get the Brazilian wax, because I think she's tired of my hairy ass crack is what I think is the. But as far as the speedo, I think she was. She was like, oh, just another day at the O.D. Now, the flip off came after she beat us in flip cup. It was more like in your face type thing. Yeah. She's got to be a pro, man.
Starting point is 00:25:52 She is. Well, we also had Beer Bowl 3 go down at the shore this weekend. You went full send on the first event. I go full send on all events. I'm not a half send kind of guy. I'm either all in or all out. From somebody just watching it, it just looks'm not a half send kind of guy. I'm either all in or all out. From somebody just watching it, it just looks like you stumble and you kind of, did you really fucking hurt yourself on the? I definitely have a minor hamstring strain. I'm hoping it's minor.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I still haven't gotten an MRI. I don't know if I should or not. Well, that's the thing about MRIs, once you're off the league, they're not, you gotta cover it with your insurance. If it was torn, I probably wouldn't be able to be continuing on with the event and I probably would have felt worse the next day. And it just feels like I got a nice little strain. Is it black and blue?
Starting point is 00:26:34 It's not black and blue. It's a little swollen. Oh, you're good then. Right? Yeah. Yeah. But no, I don't remember when it happened. It definitely happened on that event. I got a good running start. Brandon, we got video footage of this thing. I got a running start down the dock. This is, this is the linebacker Jason right here. Yeah, this is, this is, I needed the extra fat to help hold this thing together.
Starting point is 00:26:53 That's what I'm saying. But now everybody was kind of being so right next to, I thought maybe this would be an advantage to build up speed. And then I was out of balance. I get right back up though. Look at this. Look at that powerful lat pull down right back up onto the raft. There you go. I don't know if it was the initial. I think that might've been where it went. It was either there or the initial stumble.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Left or right? Right. So the right kind of got caught and I tried to pull. And you tried to keep yourself above the water. So it was either there got caught and I tried to pull it. It was like right above the water. So it was either there. Is that it? Or it was here. Ah! I don't know. It was one of those two spots. But immediately after I got off the raft and I was in the shark-infested waters, I realized that my hamstring was either cramping
Starting point is 00:27:41 or strained. And when it didn't go away, I was like, oh, fuck, I just might have tore my hamstring. Luckily, I'm the only one that got hurt. There you go. Yeah. Which is shocking, quite honestly. Yeah. When you mix wet obstacle courses with alcohol, typically you need an EMT on standby. So we did. We had EMTs, we had lifeguards. We did it as safe as a way possible. We did. We had EMTs, we had lifeguards. We did it in a safe as a way possible. It was an action. It was a great event. I'll tell you who really showed up with a lot of energy. They won that event. They won multiple events. It was Cooper DeGene and Sidney Brown. They were team takes their shirt off. So I think it was their official team name, which I mean, listen, if I look like that, I probably have my shirt off too. There we go Sydney chug to start off It's going oh
Starting point is 00:28:26 Right over this is an awful angle Jake But he is moving he is moving went right through that thing. I've heard Sydney by the way has had a outstanding summer He's he did really well this year and OTAs and everything people are excited about him coupe great chug great chug Chops the, jumps the gap. He's up, he's over, and then he's army crawling. Army crawling. Oh no, that's going to waste some time. Oh God, oh God. No, I think that's the way you had to do it. And he's in! Way to fight, way to fight it.
Starting point is 00:28:59 They were both competitive as hell, and they beat me and Bo and Flip Cup later in the freaking uh, in the event. Why the fuck you're getting whooped by fucking everybody? both competitive as hell and they beat me and Bo in flip cup later in the freaking in the event. Why the fuck you're getting whooped by fucking everybody. It was a bad showing for well I was also hurt at that point and my morale was down. Hurt? You had a pulled hammy and flip cup? Get the great Jason don't start this.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Listen I'm not going to throw Bo under the bus because he's the only reason we made it that far after I pulled my hamstring. I fucking did great in that flip cup game. I might have been the best individual performer in the flip cup. I was held down by Bo. Bo fucked me in flip cup. I'm just kidding. Listen, you live and you die as a team. I'm riding with my buddy. Everybody's got to hold their end of the bargain, man. I'm riding with my guy, but it was an atrocious performance by Honey Bobo. We lost by one cup. We had 23 and I flipped 15 of them. Do that math for you.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Actually, we flip 22. 22. Dude. Yeah. No, Bo's got to he's got to go. He's got to meet you at least halfway. It can't be just like a quarter of the board. We got to fucking we got to we got to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:30:03 There's one thing Bo did a great job was it was on the Greece Pole. Turns out Bo Allen is an expert at navigating Greece poles that show this one. An expert at navigating Greece poles. Whoo. Bow. It's a good race. It's a good job. Good job.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Was that that was the goal is to hit it. Yeah, you had to get to the end of it. So get points. And he just he said screw trying to run. Well, everybody who tried to walk made it like two to two feet on and then they fucking ate shit. So this ended up being like the last three competitors from like Sidney, Bo and Connor. They all figured out if you just like jump and slide on it like a seal, then that's the
Starting point is 00:30:41 best strategy. This is him filling the egg out right here. We might have to extend this although I don't know how much further it can extend. I don't know if you want to keep it. Yeah that's that's the diciest one right there. Oh dude wait till you see some of these guys how they fell on that thing. There are some good falls. Shout out to Stone Cold Savages who ended up taking home the win and the $50,000 is Beer Bowl champs. They were the runner ups from last year. Insane.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And they got it done. $50,000. Listen, we got to reward these degenerates. Stone Cold Savages are a great team. And it's honestly, it's a beautiful story of perseverance. It is. It's a beautiful story of we're going to get better. It is. From last year. Yep. And I'm going to fucking take some Stone Cold Savages into this fucking NFL season. You should. You should. Let me get a hell yeah. Hell yeah. The full recap of Beer Bowl will be up on my YouTube page. That's
Starting point is 00:31:42 Jason Kelsey. At Jason Kelsey. I think that's just the name of the YouTube page. Nice. I think that's where we're putting it up. Yeah, we'll let you know when it's ready. All right. Any final thoughts on year five of the Shorebirds? I mean, it's our most successful one by far. Nice, man.
Starting point is 00:31:55 We raised over a million dollars in one year. Just two days of fundraising, raised over a million dollars for the Eagles Autism Foundation. We had tons of sponsors that were willing to be a part of it. Tons of athletes and celebrities lent their time to guest bartend or participate in beer bowl.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Hell yeah. Tons of 92 percenters showed up. And then just a bunch of Eagles fans. CIO is a special city. It really is. It's a family-based island that people are just looking to have a good time. It's very neighborly, it's very community-based. So, they show up. They've shown up for all the other ones and they showed up for this one. And everybody combined, we raised a lot of money. We raised a lot of money that's going to go a long way for care and research in the autism community. Shout out to Ryan Hammond, the head of Eagles Autism Foundation. Yeah, Ryan!
Starting point is 00:32:50 For her involvement, she kind of gets this whole thing going. It's a lot of work on her end, especially with all the other events she has to do with the Eagles Autism Foundation, but she handles it like an unbelievable professional. And then shout out to Kai. Kai also does a lot of lifting on her end to get this thing up and running. It was just a really professional. And then uh shout out to the Ocean Drive. Shout out to Seattle. Shout out to OD. Shout out to OD. Yackle of the Seattle city. There you go. Shout outs left and right, baby. Look like a blast and I can't wait to join next year, baby.
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Starting point is 00:35:34 car that I can't see him? I don't know why my head went to this exact story I don't even remember where we were at but we had a rest stop. Dude we're in a rest stop and you were in that thing gaming it up dude you were in that arcade. There was a gumball machine there were a couple arcades and I was just playing while everybody was kind of refueling and getting ready to get back on the road. I look up and everybody's gone. I'm like, oh no, I guess I'm just going to keep playing games. No matter what kind of traveler you are, the American Express Platinum Card offers a range
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Starting point is 00:37:15 Big burger guy. Love a good burger. After burgers, I'm going cheddar brat. Love a good cheddar brat. Cannot be beat. So fucking good. The other thing I'm really trying to do this year, I cannot beat her. I want to beat Kylie and ribs. I can't do it. She boils them and then puts them in the oven and it somehow still beats me on the grill. Hopefully with the help of Kingsford Charcoal, you can get that done, Jason. Here's to the cool part. Tag Kingsford on social media and show them what you're grilling for the fourth. And you might just score some sweet gear to make your summer even more awesome. So fire up that grill with the authentic wood fire flavor
Starting point is 00:37:51 of Kingsford Original Charcoal. Every day is the perfect day for getting the crew together to fire up something special with Kingsford. Let's talk about where you were this weekend which is Let's talk about where you were this weekend, which is Nashville, Tennessee. That's right. Vegas. Travis was out of the house at tight and University. Let's start with the football portion. The thing that nobody wants to listen to us talk about. You had Jeremy Shockey out there this year.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Baby. How excited were you to see Jay? Are you kidding? It was my first time finally meeting him and I had, you know, there's certain guys that made this position what they, what they, what it is today. They made it fun. They made it exciting guys that brought bring personalities to football and you can latch onto that. Shockey made everybody love the fact, love like seeing a tight end with the ball in his hand, just running.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Oh yeah. It was electric. It was electric. That shit's infectious. That's the guy that you want on your team through my entire like life of meeting my heroes in the NFL. He's another one where he's just like as soon as he's in the room, he ignites the room. Yeah, he's here. He's here to like talk to you about just anything.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Anything you have to ask for him. He's willing to, you know, spit the gospel on. And it was just cool to finally meet him knowing that through the grapevine, everyone had said nothing but amazing things about him throughout his entire career, man. That's awesome. You also had the Browns tight end tried a happy Gilmore swing. What's this? Let's take a look at this.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I mean, listen, he full sent it. This is a much bigger windup than happy. Gilmore has done before. You got to stay in closer to the ball. You got to get closer to the ball. Happy did not have that far. No, he took like maybe one step, maybe two steps into a crow hop. You can't take a run and start like that. It's just everyone knows in golf, you got to eliminate variables and that there's just too many variables for that one. That's a good send though
Starting point is 00:39:45 I'm listen. It's a full send. I respect the fuck out of it Well done Brendan Bates Theo Vaught out there running routes. How does Theo look? I'm not gonna lie. I saw Theo the night before I didn't even see him out there on the field Jason which have to understand is that tight end you is it's just a good reason to get good people around and And have some fun. Maybe talk some ball if you're into that who's D and I'm up here. Who's D and I'm up it looks like I
Starting point is 00:40:15 Can't even tell the fucking screen. Look at that stance. That's good. Yeah, right. Look at that fucking stance. Oh My gosh, okay Not terrible, oh Look at that fucking stance. Oh my gosh. Oh Terrible not terrible. Oh Too early on the jump Gotta watch out man. Those hammies baby, dude. Yeah, absolutely hilarious. So we only did we only did one field day this year We have too much goddamn fun in the evenings that going back out onto the field hung over for two hours and 95 97 degree heat. Just you know, we'll do one good day of work and then and then throw some parties, raise some money and have some fun. I think uh I think we finally kind of found the perfect mix of like
Starting point is 00:41:01 hanging out talking ball as well as putting in some work. Every single day we got workouts up at Vanderbilt. Guys are definitely getting in the works knowing that, you know, we got the season coming up in less than a month, or we're going to training camp in less than a month. And it's just good that what people don't understand about the tight end position is that we're the I got you guy, whatever you need guy. We're the guy that will block the guys that are bigger than us, will run routes against the guys that are smaller than us and
Starting point is 00:41:28 whatever position they put us in we're expected to to get our shit done, get our job done, as everyone is on the field. But we get put in more situations than most and that means we naturally just have a selfless mentality and I'm here for you whatever you need type of mentality and like vibes. And it's everybody across the entire like NFL you figure this out. And it just makes Titan you so much fucking fun. Right? Because everybody's there to just have a good time. Nobody's there thinking you know, too big of themselves or like they don't
Starting point is 00:42:05 want to share their secrets. Everyone's here to help out each other and make sure that you're spreading the word on on how you got to where you are. And sometimes it's just it's hearing somebody's story and hearing how they even got into the tight end position, you know? Yeah. And yeah, it was awesome, man. Just another another amazing year. Shout out to Rubicon. Shout out to everybody at the Thompson Hotel and all the sponsors. It was it was a fun awesome, man. Just another another amazing year. Shout out to Rubicon. Shout out to everybody at the Thompson Hotel and all the sponsors. It was it was a fun one, man. It looked like a lot of fun. And they actually just speaking of ball, they got some clip here. You talking a little bit of ball. What do you what do you teach it in this clip?
Starting point is 00:42:36 You know, I got it. I got to I got to switch it up. Mitchell Schwartz called me out on this. He's got such a good point. I am, you know, don't get me wrong. These are fundamentals that I that I like to think like I like to work on the fundamentals. Let's play the clip. Brandon, what are we doing? I don't want to listen to myself. Man, fuck. Take your headphones off.
Starting point is 00:42:55 A lot of other people like listening to you. All right, go ahead. Hey guys. It's it's so hard for us to just throw one foot in the ground going 75% speed in a round to get out of there, right? So we want to use two steps. If you can get two, if sometimes... Dude, I'm not talking about shit.
Starting point is 00:43:15 It's so hard. If you're lucky enough to run them, but... It's so hard to put into words. I know exactly what you're talking about. If you get out of a break, you have to slow that momentum down and really gather that power so that you can explode out. I'm trying to talk physics and I just don't I need to start breaking in Newton's laws of motion. The direction that I want to go. Don't always want to understep. I do that a lot unfortunately but if I can if if I get to choose what I'm doing, I'm going in at a powerful position. That means if a defender's on me,
Starting point is 00:43:47 I'm still strong getting out of that thing. You know what I mean? Like I can gain separation. And it's hard to gain separation if you don't go in at a controlled pace. So really work and find that shoulder over toe. And you can get in out of there precise and with a purposeful, like powerful foundation.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I mean, what do you think? It seems like that all makes sense. What are you talking about? Yeah, I mean, what did you not like about that? What did you not like about this? I just don't like how I talk. It's hard when you're hung over to like be like articulate, articulate and say the right things while you're running. you typically when you're working out
Starting point is 00:44:26 You're not like speaking at a loud value like I do it felt like I was holding my breath the entire time Yeah, I will say this though big guys We need to go in at a controlled space or a controlled pace to come out at an explosive pace You know what I mean? So it's like we want to go in control so we can come out explosive. And that's basically what I was talking about. You don't want to go in slow, but you want to go in control because the moment you're going to get open comes in how quickly you can get out of that break. Right? And how much you can make going into that break look like you're going to keep moving forward.
Starting point is 00:44:58 This honestly reminds me of a like the 20 yard shuttle. That's a drill that people do for the combine. I don't want to brag about myself. Got the fastest time in all line history, but regardless, if you try that drill, you basically you start in the middle, you run five yards this way, change direction five yards, 10 yards that way, change direction, you go back to where you started. Right? Yeah. So you're changing direction twice. That drill is all technique, but keep going. Correct. That's what I'm saying. If you try and run that drill full speed and just run it you are going to run a slower time than if you run it controlled with proper technique. If you hit the proper steps and you do everything right your time will be faster than if you just run it like Leroy Jenkins. You're going to run a slower
Starting point is 00:45:42 time. You're going to look fast but you're going to run a slow time. You're going to look fast, but you're going to run a slow time. That's just how it works. And I think route running, the best route runners I know are smooth because they're controlled. They can make it look like they're running top end speed, but at the same time, they know they can put their foot in the ground and change direction. I think you were talking about that from like a tight ends perspective, like wide receivers can do it in one step.
Starting point is 00:46:04 The best can, right? They can like be running full speed and all of a sudden put their foot in the ground and go tight ends because you're bigger. You got to be more cognizant of being able to get out of that break because you have more weight behind it. And the more steps you do, the more slowing down that you do, it's buying time for the defender to read that and react to you changing direction. Is this?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Yeah, that's what you're saying essentially, right? Essentially. It's exactly what I'm saying. And if I try and keep, if I'm, if whatever I'm doing is I'm always trying to stay in that controlled space and you'll see me sometimes raise up. But anytime I raise up, I have to come back down to get back into that controlled space. Sometimes raising up and then coming back down place with my tempo, which could throw somebody off.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Sometimes it gives the illusion that, you know, it's a timing factor. It gives the illusion that I'm doing something else that I'm really focused on doing, or I'm just like kind of lulling somebody to sleep. But at that, if I'm running a full speed route, I want to stay in that like F1 car like zone. I don't want to airplane up. If I stay in that F1 car now my shoulders, my core, that squat position that we're always trying to get to in the weight room. Now I can transfer that onto the field and use my power and use my in steps and use the ability to, you know, all the
Starting point is 00:47:23 power that we have at the tight end position, I can use that going in and out of breaks. Let me ask you this. That's the base fundamentals. How much after you get those base fundamentals, do you as a route runner use raising and lowering? You talked about under understepping, like cutting on the outstep. Like, I think that like here's here's my issue with coaches that teach positions, is they want it all to always look the outstep. I think that here's my issue with coaches that teach positions, is they want it all to always look the exact same. You go, you put your foot here, and the
Starting point is 00:47:51 best rat runners, they're playing a game with the defender. You can raise and lower your position and make the defender think you're about to cut and then just keep going straight. You can, all of a sudden, cut off the wrong foot If you know the grass and the footing is good and that will throw the defender off because they get used to these like timing. They get used to a three step slam, right? They know one, two, three he's going in. They know the sticks are at 10 yards. They know it's third and 10. This is where I truly feel like you are so much better and I don't mean to throw shade on any other tight end at Titan University. This is the level of intricacy that I think
Starting point is 00:48:29 you have that a lot of other people that especially play tight end, some other receivers have this like instinct. And I don't know if it's because you played basketball or what it is, but it feels like you have a way of manipulating your steps, your body language, your oh, I always say you have gumby knees, your knees are always inside your toes. So it's like, which way is he about to go? He can go either way. It's not it's not giving it away. Those in steps, that was actually one of Evan Ingram's big noses here at tight end you and I I'm big on using all in
Starting point is 00:48:59 steps and the out steps of routes. But you you you hear me say I don't I don't like it when I undercut or I understep, but at the same time, if I'm at a controlled space, if I'm knees over toes and I get all, I have good ankle flexibility too. So it's like, I can get on those outside edges and still be at a controlled balance place. But as long as I'm not tall
Starting point is 00:49:26 and trying to go on the outside. As long as you're not on a balance doing it. Like that's what it comes down to. The biggest thing is getting to that F1, finding where you, you like reside in that F1 car. Like I said, 75% speed. The, when I was really like at my peak athleticism, I could go 85% like speed and still be able
Starting point is 00:49:46 to bend and turn and and get in and out of a break and that's the and that kind of stuff. But at the same time, I can always if I'm 85 and I'm still in that F1 car, I can take off and get to 100. Exactly. You know what I mean? So it's like I can play with tempo, I can play with getting in and out of breaks. And then when you add in the mental aspect of, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:07 Understanding all the route concepts, understanding all the defense. Like now you can actually, now you can attack with precision. Right. You know what I mean? And this purposeful movement, it's IDing the defense and having a plan
Starting point is 00:50:22 and having these instinctual plans kind of set in place so that you can just play fast. Absolutely. Let's get to what everybody else wants to talk about is listen to the show. There was a surprise guest at a tight end University. The channel she's surprised but it's a surprise to everybody on Twitter special guest. Taylor Taylor showed up to tight end University.
Starting point is 00:50:44 How did it say showed up? Yeah, I mean, you already know it's how did this come about? We're in Nashville. She grew up in Nashville. She moved there when she was younger. And yeah, we we had this plan for a while that we were gonna have some fun with the tight ends and especially tight ends and friends all the evening events. I'll say this, I won't I won't say when the idea came up, but when we were there at Tight End and Friends
Starting point is 00:51:09 and we knew that there was a professional like Kane Brown who could just, he can figure it out. He's a pro, he's been on stage a million times. He's not shy at all by any means. He's a true professional. Tay just kind of went up to him and the band and just was like, hey, if you guys are down, like, I'll go up there and play a song and see if we can, you know, pop the roof off this place.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And sure enough, she's such she's so good with just everybody just people and making people feel comfortable in it. And and actually rock the stage yet again. It was awesome. Well, she killed it. She shook it off for sure. She shook down, and actually rock the stage yet again. It was awesome. Well, she killed it. She shook it off for sure. She shook down the roof. That's for damn sure it was a it was a surprise. Everybody didn't see coming. I know I didn't I'm over your checkers. I'm like, what the hell? Tays up on stage? How'd
Starting point is 00:51:56 this happen? How'd they get her to go up there? That's amazing. She was like in she was like in the back doing like musical notes for like, like, like, yeah, like sheets of music. She was just like, kind of like writing out like, I think the hi hats, maybe I don't know, I'm not a musician, but she was like making sure that the band and everybody knew everybody was on it. Everybody was just, you know, yeah, and then just went out there without practicing and was pitch perfect and just killed it. That's cool. Very cool. It was awesome, man. What was this your first time in an event sponsored by Dude Wipes? It has to be the first and only, I would assume. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Dude Wipes, Dude Wipes got it. Yeah, they got a good one right there. They got a good one. You guys killed it. Tied in you probably the most traction I've seen it get for multiple reasons. It's getting so fricking good. George and I said I have to show love to George and Greg. Those two guys, Rubicon, the Kittle family, Claire for hosting the significant other side of things.
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's just it's so much fun being around that group. And it's really starting to become a family. And man, it's a year in, year out, man. If I could never see myself not doing this, so we gotta tie the shore and tight end you up a little bit better so that we can, I can get you out there. I gotta get you out there.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I would love to go. I don't know what I'm gonna do with tight end you. I gotta see you in Cleese. No, I just gotta see the foot footwork see if you're coachable We got a we got to see some things I could have played tight end know that's what I'm saying And I see the frame right now is a 265 frame for sure. That's a tight end kind of frame I gotta see what this looks like and routes and everything. I would not want to see if I want to see if the hockey edges
Starting point is 00:53:43 Translated with you like they did with me. Well, that's how I got. How do you think I got the highest, the lowest 20 yard shuttle time? That's all about it. You were just hockey stop. That's right. Hockey. Everybody else like, oh, stay on your insteps. I'm like, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. I can be on the outside of this foot and the inside of this one. I can maximize my force. Shinagle. You guys know what the fuck you're talking about. The first night at Titan U is always the welcoming night.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And we ended up getting we ended up having a time. Just everyone's got to apparel spritz or a spritz in their hand spritz. It was it was a major league party. Oh, we all had spritz. Greg Olson's favorite. I had about 30 of them. Greg Olson's favorite drink is the spritz. Don't do't do this man on blast like that. He loved the I hit there Ain't no shame in that man's game. Are you kidding me? It's great fucking Olson life of the party, baby
Starting point is 00:54:32 Was he wear Speedos to know if he does he doesn't wax Or if he does he gets the full Brazilian Brazilian. My bad, Greg. He did this, Greg. Yeah, so we're all enjoying spritzers and we end up at Aldean's and we're up till the crack of dawn just having a blast being around each other. And then I go in the next day and at 10am I got to give like a 30 minute like basically seminar on route running. And it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Like I got to stop. I got to stop getting hammered before these things, man, because I'm just I feel like I'm not. The spritz is a good one. I'm not connecting to anyone. Man, it was it was hilarious, man. So hopefully the Titans are getting something out of it, both entertainment wise, having a good time with the boys and and the families involved. But at the same time, hopefully the
Starting point is 00:55:34 guys that that could use the takeaway with the football knowledge are getting getting a lot of it do before we get out of the out of the house segment, you had a golf outing. And again, I so solemnly swear I will never miss this ever. I'd have to be at the golf outing. Golf is like kind of my secondary thing right now. I'm getting good. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:55 It was all scheduled at the same time of TitanU but. Yeah. How was it? It was fantastic. It was the hottest day in the in Philadelphia. It was actually if it would have broken 100 100 been the eighth time this millennia that it was over 100. Golf and heat is tough, man.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Might be one of the reasons I lost a bow, if I'm being honest, because I sweat so much and dehydrated myself so much. And a lot of the DEXA scan comes down to how hydrated you are. And I had it done the next day. Just go throw it out there. Just go throw it out there. Don't do that. Just being honest.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Just being honest. Don't do that. How'd you play? I played terrible. I mean, legitimately atrocious. I don't know what it is. My swing has been messing me is it's better. Like when you watch the swing, it's better. But I'm just not playing as well. I'm not playing as well. I don't know what it is. Being an athlete out there. Overall, outside of that, it was a freaking amazing event. Nice.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Kingsford was a major sponsor. They donated a bunch of money to put it on. Just Pryles came and cooked over like 50 Tomahawk steaks. I was told from multiple people, I was told from multiple people, it was the best food they have ever had at a golf outing. There was a Esposito like pork, I think was the name of the pork guys. The food was just incredible though. Jess, Kingsford, the entire team, everyone there killed it. I think Rolling Green, the course that it was at, they all did an outstanding job. Overall, we grossly raised, I don't know how much minus expenses. I don't know how to balance a bud sheet, but we raised over $400,000 for the Bee Philly Foundation. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Dude, we killed it. We killed it. Dude, that's a week of fucking foundation raising right there. I mean, through the Bee Philly event, which raised over $400,000 plus for my foundation, Bee Philly that supports inner city kids, education, and other foundations that are doing good work with kids and families in Philadelphia. And then also with the Ego's Autism Foundation events down at the shore, like altogether in one week, we were able to raise $1.5 million, roughly for charities. God damn, that's awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:58:01 And it's all possible because of outstanding people that came to support multiple companies that sponsored these events. Tons of people buying the four sums. We got drone bettis freaking one. Drone bettis. Dude, I gotta see him out of Tahoe. See what see there. It was like all of my like childhood legends, dude. Yeah. Some legends from growing up and it was an awesome event. A lot of people showed up and braved the elements. It was it was pretty ridiculous. Also had a trick shot artist Dan Beaver. We're going to have that video coming up soon. But dude hit a drone mid air. Like off a tee and not like on accident was aiming at it. Sign them up. Outing was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Shout out to rolling green Kingsford. All of our sponsors. Shout out to Dan Beaver. And shout out to the Philadelphia fan base, man. Everybody out there in Philly, man. You guys are, you know, helping a great cause both at the shore and in at the golf outing. That's right. That's awesome, man. All righty. the shore and at the golf outing.
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Starting point is 01:02:44 You can listen early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. And if this podcast lasts longer than 45 minutes, call your doctor. Whoa! Let's go! Brothers Kelsey! What's up? Let's go, man. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:02:57 This is awesome. Looking smooth as hell, man. How's the ride been, man? Oh, dude. Yeah, I had one this week that was just like had my ass puckered, my friend. No, no. Ask me if I get 200 miles an hour. Did you get 200 miles an hour? No. 197. Three short. That's like if I just break a quarter of a second later. Yeah. That's amazing. That's actually, I mean, that's fucking, that's fucking flying though. How are we, man? This is cool for me. Dude, cannot thank you enough. This is awesome. Cannot thank you enough. Dude, this is so badass. And I know you're doing a million things right now trying to promote this thing. So we appreciate you, brother. Yeah. Thanks. Sorry I so much. This is so badass. And I know you're doing a million things right now trying to trying to promote this thing. So we appreciate your brother.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah, thanks. Sorry. I was late. I couldn't get my shit together this morning. You what time is it there? Yeah, we're rolling on you. We're rolling on your time. Do they were like, you can get Brad Pitt and like, I'm in whatever we got to do to make this happen. Come on. Let's go. Please. Where are we going? I'm gonna do the intro intro and we'll get going. Everybody good? I thought that was an intro. All righty. Our guest today is a Hollywood legend.
Starting point is 01:04:12 He's got two Academy Awards, two British Academy Film Awards, two Golden Globe Awards and a Primetime Emmy Award. He's a two time winner of People's Sexiest Man. He's a two time winner of people sexiest man. He's robbed probably about 50 times. He's a groupies of gross over 8.8 billion worldwide. Star of Fight Club Moneyball once upon a time in Hollywood. Inglourious Masters Ocean's 11 now F1 the movie. We got a Brad Pitt. That's right, baby. So much. What a pleasure. This is awesome. This is awesome. This is awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:47 How did we get you here, Brad? I don't know how this happens. This is the biggest probably A-list celebrity we've ever gotten. I don't know how this how did we get here? You got up damn early. That's how. By the way, I'm fan of you guys. This is this intrigue for me.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Let's kick it off with f1. I know this we just watched the movie, man, this thing is electric. And I gotta say, I'm gonna be honest, straight up out front. I'm not the biggest f1 fan Travis owns an f1 team. This will make you fucking hype about f1 just in general. This is an election. fucking hype about F1 just in general this is a good way to win it man. Well, you get a badass dude that like in and to
Starting point is 01:05:28 come in and just create that team chemistry a lot of people might may see F1 from the outside is just the driver and his car and everything like that man but you make it a whole family experience like that team camaraderie experience man and your characters absolutely badass. So this is definitely a movie for everybody, man. It reels you in dude. Yeah. It's a team of like 500 people.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I mean, they got a whole NASA space control back at headquarters who are even running strategies and in lifetime while the race is going. It is. It is definitely a team sport. You bought into Alpine, right? Yeah, I'm in Alpine, baby. I'm in Alpine right now. You guys got some work ahead of you. Yeah. Yeah. You bought into Alpine, right? Yeah, I'm in Alpine, baby. I'm in Alpine right now. You guys got some work ahead of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just got to get that wind tunnel,
Starting point is 01:06:11 you know what I mean? We got to get all our cars aerodynamics together, man. I like it, man. I like it. That's the cool thing about the movie is that it gives you a cool view into the F1 world that you it gives you a cool like view into the F1 world that you that you really don't see from the outside like the like people don't really understand how many tires you get and how many you know how much time you get on in the wind tunnel and you get to like i don't know manipulate the car so that you get like a tenth of a second faster you know it's it's so it's so fascinating once you get into it yes and we you know we were only, you know, skipping along the surface. The, the, like I said, the strategies these guys go through, the development of these cars, the adjustments of camber of tires and front wing by millimeters.
Starting point is 01:06:57 In fact, it's like, it's a science that is so far beyond me, but the movie, I think does a great job of, of, does a great job of still talking intelligent enough to hardcore F1 fans, and they are hardcore like us with football. Like around the globe, it's a religion. But it's still very inviting to people who are not familiar with the sport. So I think that's our biggest achievement here besides being just race, great fun. For sure. That was one of the things I was gonna say. It has just enough of like the technical side
Starting point is 01:07:31 that a dumb ass like me who knows nothing can kind of follow. I'm like, I'm kind of getting this here. All right, this is cool. I also just love the Hayes' whole like vibe. Like with F1, I always think of it in this world of almost elite racing status. This is the best of the best, but it's got this high class level to it. And Hayes comes
Starting point is 01:07:51 in here, you know, he's driving in a freaking van. He's, he was serving time as a taxi driver. You spoke volumes to Jason Kelsey. You spoke to me. This is what I want to see. I want to see a guy go in there. I want someone living out of their van to go into F1. That's what I need. This dude, Jason, was literally the first five years of his career in Philadelphia was considering buying a boat and just living on the dock in the Delaware.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Kylie mixed that. I had this romantic idea when I first started. I was going to drive, you know, 18 wheelers. I was going to drive them half the year and stick to my roots. Yes. And like get into film the other half and well, we know what went out. You never got into 18 wheelers? That long haul was a lot more work than I thought. Have you always been into cars?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Like, are you just a car guy? I've always been into bikes. I mean, I do have in my DNA that, you know, that redneck gene that, you know, like motorbikes and barbecues and, you know, we would ride anything, anything we could ride, we would get on it. So wheels were always a thing, but later in life, I really got into bikes and motor GP. I'm a fanatic for, for decades since the McDoon days, but now, um,
Starting point is 01:09:18 they're just one enough races. So now then I had, then I got into F1, you know, around the Vettel era, probably into Lewis and now I'm in the Indy and there's still not enough races. So I got to get into NASCAR. There you go. Yeah. Well, that's where the barbecue vibe is.
Starting point is 01:09:34 You want to get back to those redneck roots. There's plenty of that NASCAR. Someone point out it was really interesting. I didn't. It's never occurred to me. But NASCAR, our love for NASCAR comes from our history with bootlegging. That's right.
Starting point is 01:09:47 And not running the cops. That's one of the coolest things I like about NASCAR is the history of that and like all of the old legends were bootleggers. Like that's how the whole sports originated. And that's who doesn't love running from the cops. That's our greatest pastimes running from the police. One where it's so elegant and proper and, you know, NASCAR, they'll still scrap it out. You know, they'll get down and dirty. Oh, yeah, they'll still throw some bows.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Good fun. One of the other things with the movie is you're an old grizzled veteran, right? You've been around and there's so much, I'm sure with Travis and I, honestly with football where all these young guys come in, they're on their phones or on the apps and like the landscape has changed even just in that, you know, 13 years that we've been in. I don't know, it was just very relatable for us watching that as a veteran football player. For you, was it easy to tag into that? Being an actor and seeing like how the whole world has changed with movies? Like was there some type of relatability there for you just in terms of that?
Starting point is 01:10:51 Yeah, I mean, I first I just suck up a lot of old man jokes. It was fair enough. Needless that charming mother. Yeah, no, it's interesting. I like watching what the new generations are coming in with. I like to see what they're up against and also the way they negotiate the way through it. I feel like they enjoy it more. We were a little more uptight and had to be about acting.
Starting point is 01:11:19 You didn't sell out. You didn't sell out. You didn't sell out, you didn't sell out, you didn't sell out. And now it's this thing of, hey man, we can be artists in many different arenas. So let's do it and let's enjoy it. Absolutely, absolutely. But this idea, they also get caught up in like, have to have a franchise, have to have a superhero or something like that, which I keep going, don't, don't, one day you'll die.
Starting point is 01:11:44 They will work you to death. Yes. which I keep going, don't don't die. They will work you to death. Yes. That's awesome. In terms of your like training for the for F1 has has getting like an understanding of the car and everything like that and and relating it to all the movies that you've done in the past in terms of like the fighting stuff and like just getting ready and understanding. I don't know your role. How was this like different from movies like
Starting point is 01:12:10 Fight Club or anything you've done in the past? Dude, well, Fight Club, we were just like riffing, you know, we weren't supposed to be like, have any idea we knew what we're doing, which which fit me and Edward just fine. That's amazing. But this one, man, I mean, we got in the cars four months, I think, four months before. By the end of it all, we'd been driving these cars for two years. I think they said we put 6,000 miles in the seat. Holy shit. These things, it is shocking what these cars can do.
Starting point is 01:12:41 It is shocking. And ours, I've been in an F1 a couple of times now, but ours is a chopped F2 made to with a Mercedes Aero package made to look like F1. And we're still, what my point is, we're not even pulling the Gs. Those guys are pulling. And it is harrowing. You cannot believe what these cars can do. You cannot believe the first time you get in it that you can be barreling down at 180 at a brick wall and hit the brakes at the 80 yard marker and make a right turn, you know, slow down to 50. It's like, it's shocking. You go around these high speed corners and they tell you, you just can't believe they'll stick. You
Starting point is 01:13:22 feel like you're going to go rolling off into the ethers and they stick and you're in this. It's the most sublime feeling I've ever, ever felt ever. These guys, that's crazy. Like 140 miles an hour. And it's unbelievable. They just wants to rip your head off your shoulders and some of you just hang on. The mantra was just trust the car, trust the car, trust the car.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And yeah, by little, you know, by the end of it, we got proficient. Yeah, those are some of my favorite shots when you're freaking barreling down at something and you're like basically playing chicken with your felt self. You're like, Oh man, how long can I hold this off? How long can I hold this off? It's crazy. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Like I said, somebody in the F1 work. Go ahead. Yeah, we had, we had, we had, I mean, F1 opened the doors for us. It was really getting, Joe Kazinski, our director, was really smart. His first thing when he had this idea was to go get Lewis Hamilton. And Lewis as producer. Sir Lewis. Sir Lewis, man. That man's knowledge is,
Starting point is 01:14:20 yeah, I have yet to see the end of that man's knowledge. He Gets in It's crazy F1 was really gracious with this all the teams the team principals all the drivers We go and talk to the drivers meetings tone, you know what we aim to do. I mean, it's it's it's audacious It's unprecedented. You're gonna take actors put them in real cars on real tracks and embed us through the race calendar. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like you couldn't do it with football.
Starting point is 01:14:51 We just, there's just no way to do it. You know, like on Sunday, they had to make up an imaginary team. You couldn't embed themselves with you guys. Yeah. It's like, it's just, it's crazy. The first time we were driving out in front on a race weekend, on quality weekend, we have it all rehearsed. Everything's got to go right.
Starting point is 01:15:09 We got to prove it that we don't cock up the system so we can continue to do this. And I go out in front of 100,000 people and my comms go down and I'm driving blind. I mean, driving deaf. Oh my gosh. And somehow we got through that and then we have our first thing on the grid, all the cars getting ready to take off for their formation lap We get 10 minutes to do our scene we do our scene and our cars are supposed to take off and when dies and
Starting point is 01:15:33 guys scrambling Josh Run it off and run it off the track before by the time max for staff and is coming back around get ready for the race Starts so we had a long way It worked in the end. Yeah, that's crazy. God damn, that's insane. Let me ask you this. You've done a racing movie now you've done baseball. The scenes in this are so well shot. And it's just a very cinematic movie. It's just really well done. What is the most
Starting point is 01:16:03 cinematic sport? Well, if you could do any other do you want to do other sport movies? Are you happy with baseball and racing and that's it? I love a sports movie when they're when they work. Yeah, they just you know, it's the greatest. It's the greatest. Absolutely. I look back at Gene Hackman and Hoosiers and Redford and the Natural, you get that. There's even something more. Sports, for me, even one game is an entire lifetime.
Starting point is 01:16:34 We watch you guys, we watch your fate, we watch how you deal with adversity, how you fight through it. And it's really an amazing metaphor for a lifetime. And when we get it right in these sports movies, and I felt like we really got it right in Moneyball in a lovely, beautiful way to add to that lexicon. And I think this one does too, on a really big level because the racing is, it's probably the most visceral racing experience you'll ever have, but like all great sports movies, when they're great. There's also a story there. There's also a you're moved by it. You know, you're and we're funny as fuck. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So we got
Starting point is 01:17:16 to deliver it but but this kind of spiritual ending to it all I'm really proud about. Absolutely. Yeah, the best sports movies, the sport is almost like a background for these metaphors and things that are so relatable to what you're saying life and Everybody has played sports and they've gone through this so when you're watching it when I'm watching this movie I'm getting goosebumps because you've been in these situations before maybe not I haven't been an F1 car But I've been in situations like that. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:17:42 Oh, yeah, everybody thinks back to that and it like it makes you so much more into it. I was about to say when you're flying at the end of the movie that's the feeling that I get when that ball is in the air and I'm chasing it and it just gets death and you could just you feel in that moment of it slow it slows down it feels like the ball's going like it's just a crazy feeling. And I was sitting in, I was sitting here watching the end of the race and I'm just like, I felt like I was flying with you, dude. It was awesome. You guys did an unbelievable job of grasping that. No, that, I mean, that is, and of course we live, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:19 we live vicariously through you guys. We, you know, we, our teams, like I knew when the Sooners lost, I did not talk to my dad for three days. That's just like just stay clear. Yeah. I'm asked for an allowance car. I feel the same and you know, you know, you know, I love I love the Eagles chiefs rivalry. You know, I'm a chief. So I'm a boy. Yeah, we got a, I'm a I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a And everything goes quiet and it's perfection and sublime in other days or other periods life throws these struggles at you and it's how you deal with those and come back from those I think that are what makes sports movies so special.
Starting point is 01:19:14 But I do have a confession. You know, I'm friends with Bradley Cooper. Yeah, yeah. He's your Prime Eagles fan. That's right. And I'm not saying that I have the power to affect a game in any way. I don't I don't adhere to that kind of hubris. But I did say last year, after the Eagles went out. Chiefs were on their way to another victory.
Starting point is 01:19:46 And he was getting an award for the Maestro, still probably one of the best movies of this decade. And I was giving him this award. And he's been nominated like 18 times for Oscars. And I closed with, now, did you guys hear this one? No, no, no, no, dude, I'm talking to you right now. At the Santa Barbara Film Awards, I closed with, listen, he's been. I'm talking to Santa Santa Barbara Film Awards I closed with, listen, he's been nominated the 19th
Starting point is 01:20:08 100 time. You know, if he doesn't get it, it's okay. He's used to it. He's a Philadelphia Eagles fan. That laid the groundwork right there. He was happy this year. No doubt. Oh, you already know. We didn't talk for two months. Did he hit you up about it? Did he? Well, after the shoot bowl, did he shoot you a text?
Starting point is 01:20:29 No, he gracefully let me hurt. Pro movie. Just let it sit there and burn. Yeah. That's too funny, man. Well, let's talk Chiefs Kingdom. You just said you grew up a Chiefs fan. How has the last decade been?
Starting point is 01:20:44 Has this been the pinnacle of Chiefs fans? Oh, just a play. I mean, we had, you know, we had St. Louis Cardinals at one time. They were the only ones in my childhood who baseball who really, well, that's not true. The Royals were landing too. But football, we were a little weaker. And it wasn't till Devin Hester years where things got exciting for a moment there and, and now not till dynasty. You know, you feel this sense of, you just feel this sense of pride instead of this sense of like, Oh, life's out, you know, always against us.
Starting point is 01:21:19 So it's, it's just, it's kind of extraordinary the way we live through our teams, through you guys and what it means to us. And do you remember the wild world of sports? You guys are probably too young for it, but they used to, they always ended with something about success and then they would show an image of that and then they would end with and the agony of defeat and just a guy just wipes out on the long ski jump and I always I just think of uh life that way and each weekend's that way and god damn thanks thank god for our sports.
Starting point is 01:21:51 There we go. Hell yeah baby. That's pretty epic man. How when did so? Travis shut up, Brett's talking. I just want you wearing oven mitts till the season starts my friend. Keep your hands ready. Come on baby baby. Come on, baby. These things are nice. Yes. Check those babies. Check those babies. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Keep these things nice and warm. We gotta get you back to Arrowhead, big dog. Have you ever been to a Chiefs game in KC? You know, I know, like, no, I never have. I never have. I think in the in the odds, I was really pushing for the Saints after Katrina and that Drew Brees era and Sean Payton and I love seeing them
Starting point is 01:22:34 win at that time. I was I had a home there was spending a lot of time there. Hell yeah, but okay. This is the year then there we go. Let's get it out. We never went to any Cleveland's games growing up. I don't know what it, I feel like you're growing up. You got so much going on, but yeah, I know you're a big New Orleans guy. That'd be awesome down there on Bourbon. I feel like Cleveland is just one of those franchises that, you know, there's
Starting point is 01:22:58 always that dodgy restaurant on that one corner you can never find parking for. And, and then a year later, it's a new restaurant and then a year and a half later, it's a new restaurant again. It just kind of feels like they got that just seems to be the vibes. Well, Cleveland's like that dodgy. Well, that's definitely the Browns franchise, but Cleveland is a city is just the dodgy restaurant just stays around. It never goes away. That's what happens. Oh, man. We're going to get to this, we got to ask section. I know we're on borrowed time. So we're gonna get right to these questions. We got to ask you don't have to answer. What was it like getting abducted on jackass?
Starting point is 01:23:38 I loved when these guys came on because again, we were all serious about our acting and really, really serious. And suddenly these guys come around and go, we don't give a fuck what you think about us. In fact, we want you to be upset with us and we're going to go out there with no game. So spike Jones is a friend of mine and, and uh, I called him up and said, Hey, man, Knoxville and the gang, you know, they got anything going on. I'm in. Yeah. This idea of celebrity abduction. So I'm standing in the line at pinks big long waiting for a hot dogs,
Starting point is 01:24:10 famous famous pinks, hot dogs, and, uh, enough. I've been there long enough for people to go, Hey, well that's, that's so, and so that's that pit guy. And then suddenly this van pulls up and all these shirtless guys and hoods get out and grab me, throw me in the van. I'm screaming like a six-year-old girl. And yeah, it's one of my proudest moments. Come on, those guys. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Dude, I just met Johnny for the first time. I was freaking starstruck. I watched so much of that growing up. So much. Unbelievable stuff. Did you ever get your hot dog or no? No, I'm still waiting. Those guys, man. We also had a co-star of yours on the show, Little Dicky, where he said he got you to
Starting point is 01:25:01 do a cameo in Dave by just sending you an email. Is this real? That's right. He sent an email. He'd heard that. Again, I thought, little man, this is brilliant. What this guy's doing, he's carving out territory no one else has been. And I guess he got worried, so he wrote me an email.
Starting point is 01:25:23 And I thought about it for a night and I couldn't find a reason not to do it. That's what I wrote about like I Inquired with Buddhist monks and all the great religious minds of the I couldn't find a reason not to do it. So I'm in It was supposed to be a cameo. And then like two nights before, I get the script and it's the whole episode. Like Dave, that's great. That's amazing. There we were. Well, one of the things that happens on this show has happened multiple times is manifesting things, right? You speak it into existence. Is there a co-star or director that you haven't gotten to work with that you'd want to?
Starting point is 01:26:09 I'm a huge PTA fan. I think he's just damn brilliant. Paul Thomas Anderson. Yeah. Love what he does. Yeah, that'd be good. All right. Good deal. What quote of yours do people say to you the most from one of your movies? What do you get the most? I get what's in the box. Yeah, still. I get Bon Joino. Your ability to play a just a redneck American soldier with the worst Italian acts. I don't even know how you act that. So you couldn't replicate that if you tried anybody. Most of the time I'm just, I'm trying to keep the gate on it.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Yeah. Right. Try not to press that down. Have you, uh, have you ever been starstruck by like a co-star? Uh, when I first met Gina Davis, Susan Sarandon, I was. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Love that. Yeah. I got over it quickly though.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Is it true that you volunteered to get your teeth chipped in Fight Club? Well, it's not like I put my hand up and went, I'll do it. Again, this was, I mean, this movie came partially, this idea is certainly out of the jackass movement. So, yeah, we didn't like, like, you know, we weren't getting facial scrubs and pedicures, you know, so let's go the other way. And I had chipped my teeth as a kid. So I just re-chipped them.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I just, that's all. Took the bits off. I mean, still took the bits. Oh, I mean still took the other bits off. Yeah. You're known for constantly eating on the screen best food you've ever ate on camera. Damn. I don't know how I get this like people eat in life. Yeah, right. Like I think it was in oceans and I figured he's always waiting around. He's he's like the consigli area of the group and he's always doing this and doing this. He's got to eat on the run.
Starting point is 01:28:06 That's all this. That's where this came from. There was like thought behind it. That's too funny. And now anytime I eat in a film, I guess I'm a bit of a grazer, but yes, okay. So that's everything I've done. That's what I'm known for. The best, I had an Ice Cream Sunday.
Starting point is 01:28:26 I remember an Ice Cream Sunday, a big parfait thing on, I'll tell you a story. I hadn't thought about this for years. One of my first movies, I'm doing this little independent film. We're shooting in this little tiny cafe. It's full of the crew, so there's about 60 people in there. It's hot, you can't breathe. And my character hadn't eaten for days and he gets his big plate of beans. First plate of beans and bacon. And I was all like method. You know, I was like, yeah, do this right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. And I just, and
Starting point is 01:28:56 I pow, you know, I just powered down this plate of beans, take two, do the same thing. Take three, I do the same thing. I do the I do the same thing. Take four, I do the same thing. Something hit me. Oh, I know exactly what hit you. We all know what hit you. It was true. And there was nothing I could do. I was stuck in this chair and nature took its course.
Starting point is 01:29:21 And then there was nothing. I went, oh, great, I got away with that one. And then suddenly the entire crew, the most diabolical something something, descended on the crew in the whole room and they freed the cafe, freed. So, the question you've heard first right right? And ever since then, I've, I paced myself.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Beats to do it to you, baby. That's right. You should be proud. Hey, you clear room. You clear room. That's a promo offensive lineman. You already know that's a badge of honor. We had, oh my gosh, Green, all time sack leader, one of the up there with the
Starting point is 01:30:09 Steelers for a long time. And then he was coaching the Packers, Kevin Gritton. He came in and was coaching the D-line. He came into the O-line room to try and give us tips on how to block D-liners. He came in there, guys are farting, not stop. And he's like, you guys are, O-liners suck, I'm out of here. He just left the room. You guys are the linemen suck. I'm out of here. Just left the room. It was like two fighters. By the way, David Fincher.
Starting point is 01:30:31 He is probably the most knowledgeable man about your sport you will ever run into. Oh, interesting. He would he would the minute you mentioned this guy. He would pull his name up. Who's who's his team? Or is he just a fan? Just love it.
Starting point is 01:30:43 He's a lover of the sport. And yeah, yeah. Yeah, like strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy. We ask athletes this question all the time. But what was your welcome to Hollywood moment? Welcome to Hollywood moment. Okay, I'll tell you my welcome to Hollywood moment. I was I got my first little thing. It was on a like a little soap opera and they and my picture was in a like USA Today. Okay, and this was a big deal sent my mom and dad look you
Starting point is 01:31:14 know look ma I made it and it was with a friend there was a girl he was really attracted to a couple of girls and we went over to their apartment and we went through the kitchen the back door and I looked down the litter box and there was that picture with a big cat turd on it. Oh! Big kids day, cat turd. That sums it up.
Starting point is 01:31:39 That's right there. Welcome to Hollywood. And I've never forgotten that. I love it. I love it. God damn, that's good. Dude, Brad, we appreciate you jumping on, man. We know you got a role to the premiere, man. Thank you so much for gracing us with your time, brother.
Starting point is 01:31:52 We'll get you, we'll get the Chiefs of Staff to your back this year. I'm not worried. And I love you both. I enjoy you both out there, everything you do. Jason, is there any commercial you're not going to do this fall? There might be some. I was gonna add you have any acting advice for me? How do I do commercials better? How can I nail this? You're crushing it man. When the Raven in the elevator. That's that's what
Starting point is 01:32:14 Yeah. So good. Also, say say what's up the Doug Pitt in a landing pit. I do you know, I don't know if you know this. I climbed Mount Kilimanjaro with your brother. He said, Yes. He's got you guys up brother. He said so. Yes. He's got two of you guys up there. He's got Joe Buck up there and some other great.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Yeah, that was electric. That was a lot of fun. How about coming down? That was worse, you know. It's easily the worst part. You get so excited, you reach the summit, you're like, I'm here, it's over right now. Now you got to go back down. Knees, knees, knees, knees.
Starting point is 01:32:41 The worst. Oh boy. All right. All right. Love you, bro. The worst. Oh boy. All right. Love you, bro. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming on. Thank you, brother. Enjoy it, man. Shout out to the pit for the first of all, an amazing movie F1. I fucking love F1.
Starting point is 01:32:58 It is good. It's very good. Yeah, free. Taking some time before the big premiere out in London to come hang with us over here at New Heights, baby. I feel like the movie is super relatable for where we were at at the end of our careers. Like you're the older player and there's like a lot of dynamics there. I don't know. I was. I think that's why I like I loved it so much. For sure.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Definitely. I'm a swan. I am now a swan. Let's get a little bit of New Heights Food Court brought to you by Hellman's. Knock a lot, Trav. Never in a million years did I think that we would have a mayonnaise sponsor with your very well-known hatred of that product. But here we are. Hellman's is sponsoring the New Heights Food Court. Last week, we put Travis's intense hate to mayo on blast. We've always been talking about it. But may will levis mayo lover called you out on Instagram and challenge you to give Hellman's flavored mayo a try. I'm not going to give it a try. But I know he loves it.
Starting point is 01:34:00 All right. Well, either way, Hellman's actually sent me some spicy mayo. Oh, nice. That's right. Well, either way, Hellman's actually sent me some spicy mayo. Oh, nice. That's right. Apparently we didn't send this Travis because we didn't think he would hold up his end of the bargain. Well, I'm traveling. I'm everywhere. So probably didn't have an address for me. That's right. That's why. That's why. That's why. That's why. All righty. So Travis, are you ready to eat your words? No, but I'll tell you what, since I've been all over the place, I think I know someone who actually has a, has a love for Mayo as much as Will Levis does. And that's intern.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Okay. Look at what they sent me. Look at this. Eat your words. Eat your words on a chicken sandwich boys. Chicken sandwich getting dropped off at your house at six o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Have at it boys. You're so fired up. I'm actually am fired up. This has been sitting here. It's been sitting here for so long. It smells so good. It's got spicy mayo, fried chicken. They got the mayo on the bottom. They got the mayo on the bottom. What else is on the bed? Lettuce, I see.
Starting point is 01:35:06 They got lettuce, they got pickles. I mean, that's everything you need. And they got, there's your spicy mayo. Hold on. Here we go. This is the bite. I don't even know what we're reviewing. Like everybody watching this right now knows it's going to be.
Starting point is 01:35:17 The only person who's wrong is Travis, but that's fine. It's so good on chicken sandwich. It really is. No it is. It's a good on chicken sandwich. I'm being honest. It really is. No, it is. It's a nice spice. This is good. Travis, I swear to God, you will like it.
Starting point is 01:35:34 The spicy mayo is good. It's very good. It is good. Jason, it's solid. Put this on a sandwich. Put this on... Fried chicken is really good. It's spicier than you think too, if I'm being honest.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Yeah, I think they sent you a sandwich. Yeah, everybody that likes mayonnaise got a sandwich. All the mayo boys got sandwiches. Sucks to suck, Trav. That's a good sandwich. The mayo is a little spice. Very good. Me like you the spicy.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Put that on the bottle. Let's give it a little squirt. Damn Damn hell yeah, get you a little squirt. This is disgusting. It's not. Stop it. It's really not. Would you ever do this with ketchup? Squirt ketchup in my mouth to see what it tastes like.
Starting point is 01:36:16 If it was like a specialty ketchup, yeah, I would put my finger in it and lick it. Yeah. Try it. Try it, Jason. Try it. Try it, Jason. Try it. It's great. Did you hear that sound? Every squeeze bottle in America makes that sound. That's ketchup, mustard. They all make the fart noise. I got to throw them out before they get to that. I got to toss them.
Starting point is 01:36:43 That's good. I'm a big fan of spicy anything really. I love hot sauce. Isn't it spicier than you think? I'm definitely getting, they put a healthy amount of spice. That's a healthy amount of spice. All right. I like it, Travis. We'll get you, we'll bring you over some.
Starting point is 01:36:55 It sounds like I need to give it a try. So maybe another day. Maybe another day. Okay. What would you be willing to put spicy mayonnaise on? A sushi roll? I mean, yeah, that adds up. What kind of sushi roll are you going?
Starting point is 01:37:10 What fish? Shrimp tempura. You're going spicy tuna. Tempura is good. I can dabble. I can go any which way. Like an eel? Maybe an eel?
Starting point is 01:37:19 Ooh, unagi. Ooh, is that eel? I think so. I'm out on octopus. Everything else I'm in on. Alrighty. On behalf of mayo lovers everywhere, this feels like a huge win. This product that is. Doesn't feel like a win that Travis didn't try it. We're gonna work on getting him to try it. If you're a mayo hater out there or if you know a mayo hater out there, challenge them to eat their words with Hellman's Spicy Mayo. That's right, or flavored
Starting point is 01:37:45 mayo. They have other flavors as well. Spicy one's extremely delicious. Because they may think they hate mayo, but you know, if they like garlic aioli or a spicy sauce, they may actually love this. That's it for New Heights Food Court man. I don't know about that one but I'll give it a try. I'll give it a try. Heyo. Before we wrap this up though, let's answer a no-dumb question because that's some of our favorite questions we ever get asked. No-Dumb Questions is brought to you by Perplexity AI. Discover fast and reliable search with Perplexity AI today. Nice. Brandon, hit us with it.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Hi guys, Heather here. My no dumb question is about the two minute warning in football. OK. Why does it exist? Is it really just a TV thing for commercial rights and broadcasting? I know it's because it's there.
Starting point is 01:38:44 The teams try to take advantage of it for controlling the clock at the end of the half or the end of the game. But does it really have any origin in like a football purpose before TV rights? I guess I could look it up, but I'd rather hear you guys talk about it. Go Giants.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Yeah. Well, all right. Whoa. Thank you for the call, Heather. Yeah. Thank you, Heather. That's a very fair question. It might be the smartest question we ever got. I think I think just right off the bat.
Starting point is 01:39:11 I do think there is a bit of like selling some sponsors or get some ads in there from the NFL standpoint, but stopping the clock right before half and right at the end of the game kind of makes it makes it more dramatic and more of a special situation. The rules change a little bit. You can go out of bounds and the clock stops. You know what I mean? You can save time is better at the end of game and a half. Yeah, dude, I don't I think it's got to be for commercial and I would be shocked if this
Starting point is 01:39:43 isn't for some type of advertising reason. I do think you're right. There are rule changes that happen after the two minute warning. And it kind of gives each team to regroup. You're playing different football. Yeah. And think about their their planned attack, knowing that they're they're losing time and possibly the ball at the end of half. Maybe they're this their last chance to score before they have to give the ball away. You know what I mean? mean whatever it may be I did look it up on perplexity what is
Starting point is 01:40:08 perplexity I will give you I did not know this either but apparently it was started because officials kept game time and there was no clocks in the stadium oh so we give it oh wow so they give everybody literally a two minute warning. A little heads up here, boys. We got to wrap this up. Game's almost over. You have two minutes or you're dead. What a wild way to play football. But yes, you guys are right.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Yeah. What a wild way to play football and not know how much time is left in the game. No idea. Like how do you? This is why we don't count the reps. We just do. What's the essay? This is the don't count the reps when you're doing like conditioning. What's the saying? They always say, dude, fucking dammit. I forget what the
Starting point is 01:40:55 saying is. I know what you're talking about, though. I was like, no, like I actually always look at the clock to see how much time is left. I always look at the clock. I always count the reps. I actually usually count the reps. If I'm doing a lot, I'll count it in twos a lot of the time. So it doesn't feel like I'm doing as many just mentally. So like a down and back is one. I'll count laps as opposed to like two, like striders. Just so mentally, I feels like I'm doing less
Starting point is 01:41:18 than I think I am. Right down here, number four, television and commercials. I believe that's the big one these days. Yeah. We've turned the two minute warning into a TV timeout. Yeah. And into a TV timeout. When do we think it's the least likely chance
Starting point is 01:41:35 that viewers are going to tune out of the game when we go to commercial break? Hey, let's do it at the most interesting time of the game, which is two minutes left at the house. Yeah. And that's where we sell our biggest spots. Yeah, that's do it at the most interesting time of the game, which is two minutes left at the end. And that's where we go. Yeah, that's right. Wouldn't you love to hear about trucks right now? God damn it, I would.
Starting point is 01:41:53 That's the two minute warning. I did not know that. I didn't realize that they played football. Nobody knew how much time was left in the game. That's fucking wild. They still do it in soccer. Oh, they do. You're right. Shout out to perplexity. Yeah, shout out to perplexity.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Thank you, perplexity. Nailing that one. Giving us that history lesson. Shout out to Heather for the interesting question. Good question, Heather. Good question. Very good question. All right.
Starting point is 01:42:14 That's it for No Dumb Questions brought to you by perplexity. Yes sir. And that also does it for this episode of New Heights. Thank you to Brad Pitt for joining us on the show. Go see F1 the movie in theaters now. You're going to love it. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to New Heights channel and follow New Heights on Wondery app or wherever you podcast. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. Once again, New Heights
Starting point is 01:42:41 a Wondery show produced by Wavesports and Entertainment and brought to you by Audible. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S for fun clips throughout the week. Thank you to our production and crew. Thank you to the Shorebirds, to the BPhilly Foundation, to Titan U, to everybody. All the 92 percenters tuning in this week. We love you guys. We'll see you guys very soon. Peace. That was one of the first ones where I was so starstruck that I feel like I struggled to ask questions. Brad Pitt, I told you dude, the whole time it's just like, God damn this dude's fucking- I should have asked. We didn't bring up that at all. We should
Starting point is 01:43:24 have brought that up. I didn't even bring up Snatch. It's my favorite movie. Have you ever seen Snatch? No, I didn't get the reference when you said it. We should do a film club about Snatch. Maybe it's just Brad Pitt fighting. I like Fight Club and I like Snatch. Yeah, I couldn't, I'm with you though.
Starting point is 01:43:37 I couldn't figure out how to ask questions. I was like fucking sitting here like, he's gonna think this is stupid. I felt like Chris Farley. Ha! What is that? What is that? Chris Farley show. Remember when you did wings? That was cool. That's legitimately what I felt like. God damn it. I remember.
Starting point is 01:43:58 All right. Remember when you were in fight club? You remember the movie when you're shifting and stuff? Dude, you were like, flying. You're flying. I love that part. I'm a fucking idiot, dude. There it is. It was seven o'clock. I mean, six o'clock over here. But yeah. Follow New Heights on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to New Heights early and ad free. Plus enjoy exclusive episodes of the show by joining Wondry app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new heights early and ad free. Plus, enjoy exclusive episodes of the show by joining Wondry Plus in the Wondry app,
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