New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Travis on Crucial Drop, Jason's Tired of Talkin' Tush & Fightin' Grandma with Jimmy Fallon | Ep 154

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s Oreo® Cups! Today, we are joined by the incredible host of The Tonight Show, Jimmy Fallon! Jimmy joins us to talk about everything from throwing putters into lakes, the secrets to talking football on TV, how to plan a wedding, and he’s got an incredible pitch to Travis for an end zone celebration. Jason and Travis also talk about everything else from Week 2 in the NFL. We get into the Chiefs coming up short against the Eagles and how he’s feeling about that goal line drop, what the league might do to the “tush push,” why players' only meetings might be a waste of time, Baker’s incredible comeback, and so much more! We also take some of your calls on the Heights Hotline about getting pulled over, turf toe, and potty training secrets. We will be back Monday 9/22 with Coach Prime himself, Deion Sanders! For more Jimmy Fallon, Watch the Tonight Show after SNF starting 9/21 and On Brand starting Tuesday, September 30 at 10/9c on NBC and streaming on Peacock. https://youtu.be/1DB8J12wj8E?si=Ouc9frLInWK-WvArWatch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowYou can also listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ...Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwShop all the New Heights merch at https://homage.com/newheights Support the show: REESE’S OREO® CUPS: Grab REESE’S OREO® Cups today, wherever candy is sold!YOUTUBE TV: Sign up now at https://youtube.com/NHAUDIBLE: Sign up for a free 30-day trial at https://audible.com/newheightsGENERAL MILLS: Pick up Jettas Mix now at your local retailer!ROKA: Level up your eyewear at https://roka.comSEATGEEK: Use our code for 10% off your SeatGeek order*. https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/NEWHEIGHTS ($25 max discount) *Restrictions ApplyDRAFTKINGS: Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using https://dkng.co/newheights or through my promo code NEWHEIGHTS.GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/textHOPENY (467369) (NY).Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS).1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: dkng.co/dk-offer-terms. Ends 2/9/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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My friends had like, every Thanksgiving, they would have this kind of like Thanksgiving bowl. The different families would play. Yeah. And I remember I joined that once. My dad was not sporty. No, stick ball. Stickball, yeah.

And he would talk about fist bites. Yeah, I don't know. That's not a fun sport. Yeah. That's an electric Thanksgiving. Hey, what are we going to do today? Trip like football. Come on, Mama.

Come on, Grandma! Come on, dude. My grandma could take a punch, man. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A Wondry Show brought to you by Recy's Oreo Cups. That's right, that delicious peanut butter cup with the Oreo cookie inside. Oh, I love this shit. We are your host.

I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Tigers. Shout out to the Bearcats. Steam rolling Northwestern State. Shout out to the boot. No, I ain't hating on nobody. Shout out to Northwestern State down there in the boot.

But the Bearcats were rolling, baby. We put up a bunch of points. So let's go, cats. Keep this thing rolling. I think we got Kansas in two weeks, man. They come out here to play the Jayhawks, man. That'll be a fun one to talk to everybody in the surrounding areas. Subscribe on YouTube, 1-3-plus, wherever you get your podcast.

And follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S for fun clips throughout the week. And Jason, as we always do, please tell everyone what we have coming up in this episode of New Heights. Well, 92 percenters, we're going to talk a little bit of a Chief's Eagles game at Arrowhead. We're also going to get into the rest of week two and check in on the Heights hotline and answer some of your no dumb questions. But first, let's get to a special edition of New News. New News! Here to help us with this special edition. From the College of St. Rose.

You know him from his six years on Saturday Night Live as the Emmy award-winning host of the Tonight Show or the guy who threw Travis's putter into a lake in Las Vegas. Please welcome Mr. Jimmy Fallin. Oh, my goodness. I'm so happy to be here. Honor. This is going to be a good one.

is going to be a good, nice and long one. Let's go. Yeah, let's crush it. Thanks for having me. This is incredible. I'm such a big fan of the show. First time caller. I'm just so excited to be here.

I love it. I love it. And Jimmy, thank you for throwing that thing away. I haven't missed as many putts. I'm still missing puts, but that putter is that you throwing that in the lake made my life so much better on the golf course. Thank you. Can I just tell the story just so anyone who hasn't heard it?

I would love to hear it because I've heard Travis's version of this, but I would love to hear Jimmy's version of this. So I think this is the first time we've ever met, Travis, right? Yes, yes, at 8 a.m. We didn't know each other yet. We're at a golf tournament. Justin Timberlake does this golf tournament in Vegas. We're playing this course, and we're, it's Travis and Patrick Mahomes versus me and

Justin Timberlake. And it's great. And gosh, you guys are really good. And I think you ended up winning. You won the whole tournament. But you didn't like your putts. You were putting terribly. It was horrendous.

It was bad. Pat did all the putting that day, yes. Yeah, and you were like, dude, but we were having fun. I got to, I was like, dude, we're totally hitting it off. It was great. Did you remember I had a crazy chip-in shot? Dude, out of the bunker. The devil's butthole, dude, I haven't called a bunker anything but that.

Devil's a mud hole, dude, that's the name of that bunker. And so I sank it. It was unbelievable right from the bunker into the holes, great. So we're on the 17th hole, I want to say, and there's a hole surrounded by water. And then you missed the put. And it was kind of a, and you go, darn it, I missed the, again, like, it's just been terrible today. And so I looked at you and I said, like, hand it over.

Give it to me. Give it to me. Yeah, give it. I'm thinking that he's going to give me the ball. And I was going to take his ball and throw the ball in the lake. Yes. Yeah. So I go give it to me.

And he, we don't really know each other. So he just gives me his putter. Like, oh, he's going to show me how to do this. There's a crowd of people watching Jason. So I, my brain had to make a quick decision. Like, do what? Do I give it back and explain that I wanted to or just throw the putter into the lake? So I just roll with it.

I'm like, and I whipped the putter into the lake. And he looked at me like, dude, what? What are you thinking? What is wrong with? The shackles were off me at that point, though. I was like, oh, I'm free. Yeah. I mean, honestly, it sounds like you did you a favor.

Get rid of that fucking thing. That putter was not. It was the worst thing ever, dude. But you were laughing at you were like, dude, what? And even Timberlake was like, why would you do that? bro. That's so rude. I go,

yeah, because I'm like, I didn't even know you, but he was a sported about it and laughed about it. And I think that putter is still at the bottom of the lake. Never made it out. Nope.

The win ended up naming it after me, saying you got to know when to fold them. You got to know one to hold them. Yeah. Is it Travis Lake or is it? Yeah, Lake Travis over there. Anybody you can go over to the,

if you end up playing the wind golf course, it's right there on between 17 and 18. I told him that they should put They should install a GoPro Remember forever, man They should put And saw a GoPro camera underwater Like a live stream

Of just fish swimming past your putter Yeah Why not? I mean, next time Jimmy just do us all of your and just throw Travis into the water That's how you That's how you elevate this

Yes, yes I'm gonna be checking my six Every single time Hey! Let's go! Let's go! 1587 Prime Dude, if you ever find yourself

in Kansas City, dude, I got a nice football that was sent to me from Travis for the new steakhouse it's officially happening just launch. It's officially happening yeah actually as this airs the day this airs on Wednesday it'll be up and run it'll be the

first day open to the public so are you working on planning the wedding are you doing this now is that the next yeah that's the next step that's the next step and it all don't stress about it I remember thinking about it with my wife that one's going to be easy I just got to figure out when a football came first

yeah you got to do one of that. It would be easy compared to trying to figure out of a fucking touch a goddamn football. Yeah. But are you got to do DJ or band? Are you thinking about all this stuff? Yeah.

I think we're live music kind of people, you know? I've seen you perform. You have to. Oh, that's right. 8 a.m. 8 a.m. Yeah. You did ACDC live with the band.

It was one of the best things they've ever heard. Jason, you must have seen Travis. I've seen all of them. You've seen all the movies. Well, I've seen these all growing up. He's always had this in his bag. He's been a man of entertainment since the beginning. So this is not surprising.

I just go up there and I send it. I'm no Mustang Sally when Jimmy gets up there. You know what I'm saying? That one I really, ooh, yeah, I really. You looked at them and told him like what like cord to be in and everything. And like, which like, I was just like, oh, I don't know. You look so much more professional up there.

I was just like, you said some. All right. All right. A minor. Kesee it. No more fun. No more fun. can you see and I better at this better look good right now yeah and you know who never sings Timberleck JT dude he gets out of it every year and I go dude this is you are a singer

why everyone is here to see you potentially sing yes I will say this he asked me this past year to do a duet did I go up there with him what you didn't do dude I was so shit-faced I was I was like, no, no, no, I can't go up there. You can't do it. I won't be able. I won't sound good. I can't even see the words from the stage. So, JT, I got you next year, though.

I'll sober up by the time karaoke comes around. And I'll follow that. We're open for you guys. I know we're going to talk about some football stuff, but I also, when we get to it, I brought some questions for you guys as well. Oh, perfect. Over prepared. Let's get to it right now.

Let's jump into it then. First of all, can you give us a new news? We have a new news call. we would love to have a Jimmy Fallon version of our new news call. So typically we'll say new news, but whatever artistic, you know, this is your freedom to lead us into this segment, please. So new, news, new, news, new, news, new, new, new, new, perfect, nailed it. With the delay, it's nailed it.

It sounds very hard. It sounds like three white people clapping. It's really weird up. my new news is i have a brand new show uh called on brand it's on nbc it's a business reality uh competition show if you like shark tank meets the apprentice meets project runway you dig this on tuesday september 30th after the voice and it's super fun it's like marcia's really interesting this is the best new news we got today baby let's go that's the new news hell yeah yeah it turned out great Like all these people from around the country and they come up with ideas for like, say, Duncan.

Like what is your, what is your new campaign, new marketing campaign, blah, blah, blah. We have Therobody. We have Southwest Ireland. We just went all through all these different brands. And some of these ideas are fantastic. Oh, I can't wait. Some are terrible. But that's what makes a show.

That's what you come up with good ideas. You have to have the terrible ideas along the way to come up with that. Dude, I was hoping for bad ideas because I go, sometimes when I watch like American Idol, I don't even. make it to the end of the show. I want to watch the bloopers or the bad auditions at the beginning. Yeah. And I'm like, that's the best part. I'm like, it's still, it's still good branding.

So this William Hung. William Hung, that's what I wanted. I'm like, please someone. So I got one, the first episode, this woman who was a real estate agent. You got my William Hung. It was, she's pitching an idea for Duncan and she's like, y'all, yeah, I know y'all have munchkins, but what I think you should have is, munch box.

You're munching on your munch box and you're munching on your box and you're munching on your box and you're munch. And she keeps saying. Innocently, by the way. Not even registered. Just going right over. And I'm crying, dude.

I'm like a kid in the playground. I'm like, oh my. And she keeps saying like, what's in your munch box? What's in your box? Well, I'm just munching away. And I and I go, stop saying munch box. This is insanity.

And the guy, the guy from Duncan looked at me. Like, is this show for real? Like, is this like, are we going to get all bad ideas like this? It was like, I don't know, dude, it was the funniest thing ever. And you'll see it in the first app, but it was like, turn now. I cannot wait to watch that. That's not so weird on this, dude.

Yeah, so that that's happening. But then we're also doing Sunday night, tonight shows after football on NBC, so, which is a big deal for us. The first one is September 21st. It's the, uh, Chiefs versus the Giants. Yeah, coming up this weekend, baby, coming up this weekend. Let's go. me now what is your first win then right into jimmy on fell and let's go come on now so so so we're doing four of these special post sunday night football shows right yeah and what is the

i guess what is it what is that going to entail is it like interviews and like you guys just talking ball what is it no it's going to be like kind of like the normal tonight show we got big guests like this weekend we have matth mccanahe and eric church okay but we're going to talk about A few big football guy. Giant football. Yeah, I'm sure church is. University of Texas, I think.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. But I think we'll talk about, we'll have some football jokes in the monologue up top. Maybe some sports themed, something in there just so that football fans have something to watch after the game. Because sometimes you watch the game, even if sometimes if it's a Super Bowl to go, and stay tuned for America's favorite dog.

Why? That's the worst programming. This is an interesting segue. Right? Yeah. You go, what is it like? Yeah. I'm still all jacked up from that finish in the football game. I'm trying to see some. I don't want to hear more about this game that just happened. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in the party mood. Yeah, I want to hear our church. I want to keep the party going. I don't want to, yeah, yeah, like America's next best a tap shoe. And we're going to invent a tap shoe. Wait, why are you airing this after football? This is odd. So anyway, so it's going to be fun. We have four shots at it. This weekend is the first big one. I'm excited. I mean, it's New York, which is where I'm from.

But, you know, I got it. My, my hearts with the Kelsey's. Go. So we want them over. Well, I guess is there any way we can either help you prepare for talking ball? Or how ready do you feel to discuss football after Sunday night? So not ready at all. I'm so bad.

Mike Tariko let me be a commentator during the closing ceremony of the Olympics on NBC. And I realize how hard that job is. Well, Mike makes it seem really easy. He is so fucking good at it. I kept talking like I didn't want any dead air at all. And I was sweating, flop sweating. I was like, yeah, these Olympians are great, Mike. They're swimming in the swimming pool.

And the water, water. And he was looking at me like, stop talking. At one point, he just grabbed my hand and he squeezed my hand, like, stop. It's going to be all right. Just stop talking. and let these athletes speak for themselves. Dude, it was the hardest gig ever. So, yes, I need some help.

We'll give me some lingo or what do we talk about? There's going to be no talk about tush pushing. So what else? It's a hot topic right now in the NFL. A topic. Hot topic. Tush pushes. But the Giants and the chiefs, you guys are Tush push.

They're not Tush. No, we're not pushers. No, we're not pushes of the Tish. No, you're not push of the Tush. The Giants, is this going to be a running game? Is this going to be a passing? Well, the Giants just threw. like 450 yards this

past week against Dallas. Russell Wilson went off. Russell Wilson, my man. I love that, dude. Two big time quarterbacks. So I think we're going to be airing it out this weekend. Okay, okay.

All right. Now, too, already releasing the scatter report. A 7-10 coverage. Is that what we're talking about? 7-10 coverage. Coverage is typically don't go higher than four. Everything I learned about football I know from John Madden.

Nice. That's a good start. Dude, that is a great. start. That's how I learned everything. Who was your team in Madden? Houston Oilers. Warren Moon. Warren Moon. Let's go, man. I loved his last name is Moon. He had number

one on the jersey. I'm like, what's cool than that? That was a very cool. That's awesome. All my friends are like, white. Dope colors. Yes. It was the best. But my dad didn't know anything about football. And so he was from Brooklyn. And so he knew about like, you know, stick ball and like fistball. Yeah.

It was nothing. No, I, so I really knew nothing about football. I had a Nerf football. We used to play, you know, in high school. I think I tried out for the team, but it was one of those small towns that if your dad didn't work for the team, you weren't going to get picked. Yeah.

And so I didn't get picked. And also, I'm not that athletic. But I remember I had a Nerf football and I bought a helmet and shoulder pads at a garage sale. Oh, yeah. And I had a chain link fence and I would wear this. shoulder pads and a helmet with a Nerf football. And be by myself.

I love it. I had no one to pass to. I was by myself throwing the ball in the air and catching it and then running. So you never played growing up? No. My friends had like every Thanksgiving, they would have this kind of like tournament, almost like a Thanksgiving bowl.

They were on Cherry Lane, so they called it the Cherry Bowl. And all the dads would come out and play against the other dads and the different families would play. Yeah. And I remember I joined that. once my dad was not uh sporty so stick ball stick ball yeah yeah he would talk about fist fights yeah i don't know that's not a fun sport that's an electric thanksgiving hey what are we

going to do today do play football come on grandma come on grandma come on my grandma can take a punch man the best my neighbor would be fighting my grandma yeah why not what a great Thanksgiving It's fun. What a great thing, Shaddy. It was got a black eye cutting into the turkeys. I have some questions for you guys.

Oh, come on. What do you got? Shoot them. How about to? All right, without naming the coach, what is the worst halftime speech you've ever heard?

Oh, man. So in college, Jason, remember this. Oh, yes. This is a great poll.

This is one of our favorite ones. Do you want to do the honors? I don't know if I can. We're playing like crap against, we're supposed to be kicking the crap out of, like this lower division school or whatever and we're not playing well through the first half and we come in for halftime and we're just getting motherfucked left and right and he's like it's like zero motivation there's no motivation like it is just ripping ass just i don't know who the

fuck you guys think you are going out there and performing like it is just like an ass chewing deservedly so and then at some point he was so mad there was like recruits so at college games a lot of times there's recruits that are there like, hey, like this is how we do it at Cincinnati. Like come and check us out. This is what the halftime. Come to our school. You'll love it.

And in the middle of this rant, this coach goes, he sees this kid in the back. And the kids wearing his high school jersey in his jersey's number 53. There were two kids, though. There were two kids. One kid looked like he should already be in the NFL. The kid that he saw looked like he shouldn't even be playing high school football. Like it was kind of like, oh, yeah, bring your buddy in and like, kind of like they're wearing their jersey their high school jerseys in the locker room and everything and in the

middle of this entire rant he's crushing us he makes somehow he makes eye contact with this poor kid in the back of the room and he says who the fuck is 53 and the kid goes pale he's like he just saw a ghost he's just all eyes from around the room turned right to him and he's got 50 he like looked at his jersey like he didn't know what number he was anymore. He's like, is it me? You're not talking about me, is it? You guys told me to come here.

What do you like? That's so funny, man. That was wild. That was a great one. Oh, I have a question that I think would be very. Out of the big four sports, football, baseball, basketball, and hockey, but which athletes are the biggest partiers? Take your time in this.

I'm going to write down my guess. Oh. I think I already have the answer. What kind of partying? Like drinkers or like just every night getting after it? The most getting after. Who gets after? Yeah.

So football, baseball, basketball, hockey. What do you think, Jason? I think it's hockey by far. Baseball maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wrote down hockey.

There's some baseball guys that can get after it. Football, there's football guys that can get after it, but there's a whole other side of football that like doesn't do it at all. Hockey pretty routinely. Yes. I agree. Like, those dudes are out and about in a great way. And scary almost to a certain point where you go.

They played stickball and fist fought when they grew up. He's to fight their grandma. Yeah, he's to fight your grandma. No question. It's a, come here, grandma. Yeah. Any sport where it's like a badge of honor to be missing teeth.

And those guys get after it. Those guys typically get after it. I used to live down the street from my man, Claude Jureu. And I would hang out with a bunch of the fly. when they were all there and Scott Hartnall and those guys and Drew every time we were out he just wanted to arm wrestle me I'm like dude can we just like drink and have fun I don't want to arm wrestle right now this lose lose for me if I lose do you you're like twice I'm twice your size I look like I suck and if I beat you I'm just like this meathead arm wrestling another guy in the bar I just no I just I was friends with one ranger and he came to a game he goes let me know where you are because I'm going to punch someone or getting to fight with some first period And look at you. For you, I'm going to punch you. I go, don't do that for me.

I don't, what are you talking about? Dude, I'm just here to watch. And he did and he grabbed some dude. As soon as they started, just started to punch you and then found me in the ground. They're like, Jimmy! That's epic, dude. I didn't ask for this. Of course not.

You had to feel pretty on it when it happened, though. I was fair. I felt pretty tough, yeah. I looked at a couple of grandmas. I was about to say it was like when grandma knocked out your neighbor. Jimmy does for you. I'm thankful for you. It's so good.

Travis, for the next touchdown you score, would you be willing to do a special celebration to let me know you're thinking of me, almost like that hockey dude. I mean, I feel like it's got to be the same thing. We got to New York. I'm getting into any of New York.

No, we got to go fist fight in New York. I was thinking this. I was taking my gloves off and just jump into the crowd. Sit down in the end zone with your legs across. Pretend that you're holding a saucer and sit from a teacup with your pinkie. yeah oh okay deal that is are you kidding me the zen i will feel in that moment

i don't know i like you so perfect i like you find in the nearest grandma and just cold documentary that's what i'm crazy you jimmy that's for you jimmy there's going to be people dressed up as grandmas you know it everyone's going to be wearing a wig and dress like grandmas and wearing the sweaters and all that stuff i'm going to get a fine and it's going to be worth every penny jimmy is there any is there anything else as far as football's concerned that like you feel like you want to discuss you feel pretty revved up about this i mean i'm excited about this i just don't want to uh you know get too too into it that it seems like i'm fake because i i only know my knowledge is only from really watching the games and watch and playing john madden football

so i'll tell you this i think i think there's enough people trying to get really in the weeds or like acting like they know football we talk we need people that know they don't really know football and just enjoy and talking about that's what we need more of just enjoy watching the game watching guys get their fucking head taken it's a different perspective i i can't wait to watch this this is gonna be so much fun it's gonna be good it's gonna be fun it's a party keep the party going after the game and that's what's about Travis this is this is the win this is the first one but come on baby this is what i'm talking about dude this is what we've been waiting for okay people are watching enough is enough hide your grammas in new york motherfuckers don't be a

53. Don't be in 53. Travis Kelsey's gotten in for his third score. He's already knocked out two older ladies. Let's see if he goes for a third. Patrick,

baby. I'm going for that. Jimmy, thank you so much, brother. Check out Jimmy this Sunday after the game, after the Chiefs,

New York Giants game. Can't wait to watch it, man. I'll be on a plane watching it and enjoying every minute of it, man. You guys are the best. Keep up the good work.

And any time, I'd love to come back. and you can come on the show and whatever. Keep up the good work. You guys are the best. Bye, Jay. You're the best. Appreciate it.

Thank you, guys. Thank you to Jimmy Fallon for hopping on. That was fucking incredible. You're the man. I love that guy. And then the last bit of new news, we have a very special guest episode dropping Monday, September 22nd. Oh, yeah. Should we reveal who it is?

I don't know. Should we leave a surprise? It's fucking Dion Sanders. Let's go. Prime time. Prime time. It must be the money. Yeah, baby.

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But before that, we're going to get some bold topics to wrap up week two around the NFL. Let's do it. Man, my day was going great. I forgot about this game. Put it in the past. Let's fucking talk about it, Jason. Yeah, let's bring it back up to the forefront and give the people what they want. What they want.

Well, they want to hear some perspective. Chief 17, Eagles 20. Trav, initial thoughts from this game. Got to catch the ball. Got to catch the ball and we give ourselves a chance. Right now we're just not executing to the degree that we hold ourselves accountable to. And that's just it starts up top of Coach Reed and how he holds us accountable. And then, you know, us players got to hold each other accountable.

I got to be there for my guys, man, knowing that they put a lot on my plate to be a good player for this team. And I need to fucking answer that bell, man. And O.N2 start is not how you envision. vision the year starting. Yeah. Play two solid teams, two, I mean, the Chargers looked great again last night against the Raiders, but, yeah. And Philly is, Philly's still got a lot, a lot of great players on that team.

Obviously, I love all the coaches and everybody over there. And we just got to get this thing fucking, we get the, get the train rolling on the right tracks, man. For sure. And we're a play here and a play there away from, you know, being 2 and O. And that's what we see when we watch the film. And, you know, it's all about just keep coming to work every single day and getting right. You brought up the drop passer up front.

So I think maybe we go straight to that. Yeah, that's fine. You know, I think Pat Mahomes after the game, of course, like everybody else is going to put it on him. He said, you know, throw a tad early. But the ball was where it needed to be, when it needed to be there. I just got to get my head around out of the break. And I shot you that text telling you that. It's one of those plays where it happens, bang, bang.

And I know that that's the window that it needs to be in. I know what's coming out of armpits and ear holes of the offense and defensive line getting their hands up. And I just got to be able to get my head around right now so that I don't put myself in a position to let the ball surprise me like that. Gotcha. And it's just, it's frustrating, man. I've scored on that play a million times in my life and obviously exaggerated.

But it's just, it's something that should have never happened. And then, yeah, it cost us. It costs us big time. And that shit hurts. But we'll get a fix. I hear you. Well, I have no doubt you guys are going to get it fixed. Let's go right into this.

One of the highlights of the freaking play was my man Josh Simmons hitting 18 miles an hour. I know we don't want to talk about that, but a fucking great hustle play by an offensive tackle. Obviously, the beginning portion of it was rough, but I could not help but be kind of awed at this big man, rumbling and bumbling down the field. He's a fucking unbelievable athlete. He showed tremendous effort on that play to save a touchdown and give our, give our, you know, defensive chance to at least hold them and yeah i love him for it man it's uh it's it's it's effort like that that's gonna that's gonna have us you know in in a good position uh moving on here and i think as long as as long as we keep you know that kind of effort that kind of focus throughout the year

throughout the the work week and everything we're going to get this execution thing figured out man um and uh and josh man we already knew he was a specimen yeah but uh that was my that might have been my first time seeing him really taking it up open up open up open the gate up yeah you know what that reminds me of have you ever have you ever seen the clip of uh larry allen it's one of my favorite o line clips it's one of the most impressive things i've ever seen i had to have um do you do you feel that do you think that you guys are the expectation that you guys hold yourself to and the way it's unfolded the first two weeks like do you feel like you feel like you feel like you like you're so pressing to get that first win that, like, there's, is it like pressing too hard?

I don't know if that makes sense. There is a bit of like, yeah, because you try and you know how good you could be. And, you know, when things aren't going smooth and the plays are being made, you try and turn in Superman and you try and do too much. And that's what you mean by pressing is that you try and do more than what is asked of you on a certain play of a certain moment and of a certain decision. It's like, oh, do I just do the routine thing? or I do something spectacular and try and make it all work.

Yes. And I think there's there's a little bit of that, at least from me. Yeah. I definitely felt that. I felt that in the first game, not as much on this game. But at the same time, it's like those instincts will come, you know? Those instincts will come. And I think just running this Andy Reid offense, which is, you know, hasn't failed us yet.

I think running that offense to a tease and, just doing what our coaches ask us to do, our teammates ask us to do. I think keeping that focus going forward with the keeping the energy up and keeping the focus up and the attention to detail up, I think that'll it'll all iron itself out. One of the more things that I think is difficult as a leader in being a guy that people look to on game day is knowing like, when am I encouraging, when am I, and it takes a sense. that you, Chris Jones, Pat, Andy is the best at it, in my opinion. It's like, when is it like, come on, let's go.

We got this. We got this. And then when is it like enough is enough or like you're not seeing a response and you need to create a scene to elicit the response from your teammates and everybody else? And sometimes it's even trying to elicit response from yourself. But it's like there's like this fine line that is difficult to navigate that I think, especially when you know it needs to get corrected, you've been around and you can't waste more time

where it's like, I don't know, is any of this making sense? I know exactly what you're saying. I think you kind of got to be in the heat of the battle and on the sidelines and amongst a team to feel when you need that and how to navigate that for sure. But like you said, Coach Reid does it the best, man. I follow his lead and a lot of that kind of stuff.

And when he asked me to, you know, pick the juice up or, you know, start playing with some piss and vinegar or, you know, however you want to say it, you know. Start showing some emotion. Like, God, damn. This is a fucking tuxedo off and put the blue jeans on, baby. Let's get this thing rolling. There we go. You know, I think, I think Coach Reed does it best, man. I just follow his lead in that department.

Well, let's get to what everyone is mad about, which is the push. Well, I don't know that everybody's mad about it. It's definitely being made up to be a big thing online, which I get, I mean, listen, the one on the goal line, and I do think this play, people love to point out the false start thing. I think it is very difficult when you see these things in real time. I think people don't realize how fraction of a second we're talking about here. The one on the goal line. Yeah, I hear you. You know, either you get caught or you don't.

Either way, you've got to stop to play. And, you know, things like this happen. Rest, miss calls. all the fucking time, keep it moving. I'll say, because there's been alleging that, like, this is an on-purpose thing that guys are going off-sides. As the offensive line, it's imperative that you get off on the snap. So you're doing the best you can to get off on it

before the defender gets off on it, and exactly when that verbiage comes out of the quarterback's mouth. You're trying to time it up perfectly. And sometimes you're a little bit early, and I'll tell you this, as an offensive line, and you'd rather be early than late, Because if you're late, it is a very hard play to execute. But I think the Eagles, and I mean this, they're going to be under a microscope moving forward.

Everybody is going to be looking at this because of what happened, not just against you guys, but this first week, too, everybody's taking pictures of it. They're saying they're in the neutral zone. They're saying they're false starting because they slow it down to like a thousand frames per second. So they need to be very, very cautious because the calls are going to be starting to come. And they should be. Like once it's out there and there's video evidence, rightfully so, the officials are going to be all. For those of you that don't understand how the NFL and these kind of plays work,

whether it's, you know, a guy that tugs in routes, a guy that or a wide receiver that uses his hands and uses his arms as levers. Yeah. If guys are doing something that's playing that line of legal or illegal on the field, it's like those tapes get sent in to the NFL to review. Yes. So those tapes get eyeballs from the NFL, from these refs, and they get notes and then the refs the next week go into the game like, hey, 8-7, make sure, you know what I mean? You're not using your arms at the top of your brakes. Make sure you're not, you know, grabbing on guys, yanking on guys, doing things that you shouldn't be doing that you were doing last week. So everything gets sent to the NFL for review and the refs then start to look for these things the

following week or the weeks after. And this is my point of the official is 70 feet away on the sideline. And he's trying to look down the line and gauge sometimes inches, right? And see who's in the neutral zone, who's getting it off. It's a very tough play for him. I do not relish the difficulty of that. And then once you go on and you start putting this out on tape, like I guarantee the team that the Eagles are playing this week, they're throwing in.

all of these clips of the NFL, as well as everybody else on social media, the refs are going to be trying to, they're going to be looking for anything to call. That's the thing, is that now that it's been made a big deal, they're definitely going to be looking for it. Yeah, and listen, they're going to get a couple calls, and that's how, that's in some ways the way it levels out over time, right? And I think that we need to get the line judges, I said this on Monday night, I think we need to get the line judges as binoculars.

Like, I think that they need to be able to peek down the line and get a zoomed in, because that's the view that everybody at home's getting. They're getting the zoomed in, like great look at it that the line official doesn't get granted. So, yeah, just kind of, maybe it's a one piece. Maybe it's a telescope. Do we go telescope on the sideline? I was at this.

I thought the Chiefs defended it pretty damn, it was the best I've seen the Chiefs defend that play. They kind of stopped them on two of them from a yard, which is, I mean, that's a very hard play to stop for a yard. Chris Jones is coming off the rock. have some knockback on a few of them. It's a very hard play to defend as is. Yeah.

Yeah, got to do your job on second and third, man. Don't get caught in those situations. I don't know. I'm also kind of tired of talking about it. Yeah. That's the reality of it. Like, I get that there's like a hair of a second early on some of these. Some of them are legitimate false starts.

Some of them I feel like fall well within the parameters of any other short yardage play. And then the other thing, the false start, thing, that thing is going to happen, whether it's a tush push or a regular quarterback's need. Guards are going to be trying to tie them up the snap. Good guards on short yardage runs are going to be trying to time up the snap. Like, that's how if you're late, you're going to be screwed. So it's not like they're trying to full start.

There were a couple that were questionable. There was the one for sure that was very obvious that they were early. Yeah. And the other ones that you can question them whether you want to get down to the millisecond or whatnot. It's just, it's not the reason why we lost the game. I don't care what anybody else says about that. We should have won that game

and other aspects of the entire four quarters that we played football. And congrats to the Eagles, fuck it. Keep it moving, man. Let's get to the rest of week two. Some of the other big stories around the league. Players-only meetings. They had a few teams, have some player-only meetings.

Dolphins held a player-only meeting after week one, lost of the Colts, Loss of the Patriots, 33 to 27 this week. They put up a few more points. Tyreek Hill, my God, Tita finally got in the three digits again, getting the ball thrown his way. Do players only meetings work? Have you guys ever done this?

I've done a few of them. You're in a really bad state once you get to players meetings? Yeah. That's what, like, it's not a good place to be usually. It's not like that meeting is going to be like some like movie, like, movie. moment, motivational moment where everything finally clicks. Like, if you're doing a Players Only meeting, it's because some shit is like, you've seen some shit going on for a long time.

And you finally get sick of it and have to have to say something. My view of Players Only Means, and I was a part of them and I talked in them, a lot of the times once you get to this point, it's because you really don't know how to fix the issue. It's like a last resort to try and like, hey, we don't have an answer from a play calling standpoint or from like an actual legitimate reason to improve our play on the field. So we're going to have a player's only meeting to motivate guys and make a difference. And sometimes it does.

Like I'm not trying to say that they don't work at all. I just think by the time you're getting to players only meetings, I feel like it's like almost like you're resorting to this last stitch effort to like make some overarching correction. But like if you knew what was causing the issue, you just go up to the coach or the play. or the guy in particular or like it just feels like they're always like these overarching things that usually don't accomplish much if I'm being honest. Yeah. I can't remember one where I was like. Yeah.

I mean, it has to happen. At some point you try to keep accountability in like it gets to a point where once you've lost and like the dolphins, they've lost like they're playing terrible. So like you try to preserve the player by. in and the guys on the team is like hey man we got to do this we got to take ownership so like it kind of has to happen but usually once it gets to that point it's like you're so deflated and defeated um but i don't know it's a long it's a long year i don't know yeah who knows what was said in this player's only meeting obviously they came out and put up a pretty damn good effort

against the patriots um they lost to the patriots Travis Drake may fucking look like all pro. Jason, I still play. You can say that. That's fair. I shouldn't say that either. This is a real problem I have with players only meetings. He's like,

what the fuck are we saying in here that we don't want to say in front of the coaches? I don't understand. Like, the only reason you're doing this is if you don't want the coaches to hear it or like, you're afraid that you're saying something. It's going to be taken a certain way by a coach. So why the fuck are you saying, like just go and say this to the coach? if this is how you feel, just go and say it.

Like, I don't understand what the purpose of, hey, let's not have the coaches in here and then say a bunch of stuff. Like a lot of times, honestly, this is what I truly feel. It's players just trying to make like a show of like, it's time to have that players only meeting. We got to take accountability. It's like, how about we just say this in front of a team meeting in front of everybody? Why do we need to do this without the coach?

Like, are you nervous to say? I never felt like, I'm not going to say this because the coach is in here. I'm just like, listen, I'm going to tell you. what I actually think is going to help make us better. Why would I fucking not say that to the coach? I'm not going to be a dick hit about it. I'm like, listen, I think that if we ran the ball and did some play action, it'll help our offense on.

I'm going to say that if I think that. I'm also going to say like, hey, if you're not fucking accountable, if you're not paying attention to meetings and then MAs are happening, I'm going to say that. Like, I don't know what is happening in the players only meeting that can't just be set in front of the coaches. I've never felt like it made much sense to me. Who's the one guy in the National Football League that you think has

had the most player coaches players only meetings do you have somebody in mind is that way you're saying this yeah who has had the most players only meetings gosh i'm trying to like think of like who is that guy that's calling them i wonder if that's that's out there had that well they you never know who calls it unless you're on the team but yeah we all know the kind of guys that are calling for them let's see it's a defensive player for sure let's see I don't know who you're about to say I was going to say I'll text you all right let's keep it going one of the other bold topics from this week Ben Johnson returned to Detroit and Detroit returned to what Detroit had been doing that was kind of wow the

lion struggled against Green Bay which kind of makes Green Bay look even better green Bay's got some guys They got some guys On both sides of the ball And obviously they've been doing it for a while But Ben Johnson returned to Detroit Was not what he was hoping for With a 55 to 21 loss to the Lions Oh, he was met with fuck Ben Johnson chance

That seems a bit aggressive for a guy That really was really good for the Lions Detroit is a it's a fucking tough city man A lion, I kind of love it That's the way it works That's the way it works man Dan Campbell accused of running up the score.

I mean, 55 points is a lot. What were they doing at the end of it, though? What's he supposed to do? Yeah. I'm not going to lie. Once it got up by a certain amount, I was like, yeah, I'm kind of good. Ben Johnson responded, what's he supposed to do? Yeah, he could have kicked a field goal.

They don't kick field goals. They go for it there. That's what he does. I'm on Ra. So the team was more fired up, especially of the offense. We were fired up. But he did for us. I mean, we'll never take that for granted.

he was a big part of what we did here but just him being over there we wanted to show that we can still do this as players we can still make it happen we got a great group of guys a great group of coaches so we wanted to go out there and have a little show yeah I think it was definitely more so what they showed

in week one and kind of the accusations that were being thrown out there that oh can they do this without Ben Johnson you know that's what I feel like makes this one unique like Brandon has in the rundown the question does playing former coaches get you fired up usually I'm excited about it. Like there's not any animosity at all.

No, no, no, no. I think what makes this one unique is that Ben, I think, was credited for a lot of the lion's success as an offense and as a team because he was such a great play caller and schemer. And I think that can lead to players being like, hey, he ain't the one out here playing at the end of the day. We're the one out here still doing this thing. And it's not a slight against Ben Johnson, but his players, I could easily see them

being fired up to go and prove to people, especially with the, the scrutiny they faced not being able to do it the week before against Green Bay to go out there and put on a show. Absolutely. But I never felt that way playing former coaches. No, never. No. What was I going to say?

Ben Johnson, no. Former coach. He was, no. I mean, I love Doug. Nobody. When a coach gets fired, like it ain't like he left. Like, Ben got, Ben didn't get fired. He left for greener pastures or to be a head coach.

I do think Detroit looked really good. They still don't, they don't have the ground. game that they've had in the past. And I think Ragnow retire and Zaitler leaving, like it hasn't manifested, especially with the two backs they have quite yet in the way they used to be able to do it. So I'll be looking, I can't wait to watch more of that throughout the season. But this was a big bounceback game for Detroit. Jared Gough was out of his mind.

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All righty. Let's get to the next segment. bringing back a new heights classic segment oh yeah baby stamp of the week we did this last week bringing it back again stamp of the week is brought to you by american express oh nice we got a lot of great options trab i'll let you think about potentially the football player you want to stamp i'm going to stamp our coach that's right from cleveland heights high school mr mike jo Who? Mike Jones.

Who? Coach Jones. You're ridiculous. Coach Jones, what's the big guy up to? Our high school football coach, Coach Mike Jones, has got a birthday coming up. He's turning 60 on September 19th. How about that? Oh, about it, baby. Happy birthday, coach.

Happy birthday, coach. That's right, that's right. He's also just found this out from his wife. Coach Jones is retiring. What? Yeah, man. Coach, he's hanging it up. He's not allowed to quit.

He's hanging it up. He's retiring as a coach, or? Well, he's kind of been out of coaching, I think. He's more, he's been doing the health and PE. He's always going to be a coach. Yeah. So, yeah, Coach Jones is hanging it up. Well, coach, congratulations on an unbelievable career.

You got two knuckleheads that appreciated every word of advice and every disciplinary action that you gave us. I know it's one of my favorite sayings of all time. Hit him. Hit it. Don't be a GDI. Don't be a GDI. Don't be a GDI.

God damn individual, son. I've been saying GDI in the back of my head when I see somebody out here just doing some like doing their own shit. Doing their own shit. That's just fucking pointless or silly as fuck or I think the kids now call it aura farming. Have you heard of this? No, I don't even know what that means. I'll keep a moving.

Gojo is one of the most like, as a high school football coach. it's like exactly who you want. He was a guy that just loved his players. Oh, yeah. He was a mentor to so many of the kids in Cleveland Heights, and he has been, still is, and he's been embedded in the community for a very long time. So, Coach, we're very happy for you. Hell yeah.

Congrats on an incredible career and a meaningful career in the community of Cleveland Heights. And happy birthday. Happy birthday, big guy. Oh, man, well, I would say this might be a little deflating after such a great stamp of the week. I should have ended with that one. But I'm going with my guy, Baker Mayfield, even though Mac Jones was a close one. Mac Jones was a close one.

Mac came in. Well, Sam Fran? Yeah, Sam Fran, played his ass off. But I'd say Baker, friend of the show, just a good friend, just a great guy and a fucking ball player, man. Game winning drive against the Texans. And has the most passing touchdowns in the entire NFL since joining the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He is absolutely rolling down there in Florida.

Couldn't be happier for him. And shout out the bake, man. Dude, that two-minute drill, him escaping that all-out pressure. I don't know how he got out of there. Dude, I mean, I don't know how you miss that tackle. I guess Baker was the one that made it happen. Slid on him. I mean, it's fourth down.

If that tackle happens, game's over. But it didn't. If that broken tackle doesn't happen, it's game. I just love when he went down, it looked like he messed up his knee. He's like, oh, no, is Baker all right? and then immediately got up to talk shit. I think it might have been an ankle. It looked like he rolled it.

Whatever. It was something looked off on it. And it's like, oh, no, Baker's down. And then immediately started talking shit with, when presented an opportunity, forgot all about whatever was hurt. It just snap back into Baker mode. So shout out to Bake. Awesome week this week.

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All right. Before we keep going, it's time to shout out our partners, as you know, Draft Kings. That's right. Week 3 is coming up. We've got some solid matchups heading into this week's slate of games. So let's have some new heights team. Constructed Pick 6 on Draft Kings pick six with their favorite picks for the weekend. That's a lot of picks.

That's a lot of picks. Please come on. Yeah. Hey, we did so great the last time. We did so good the first time they let us do this. They want us. Well, the first, the first. the first time we got the bets were avoided because you're derailed by spit you're derailed by spit so we're going to try to avoid that this week uh but for those of you who are unfamiliar all you to do to create a pick set is choose two or more players and select whether they'll have more or less than a certain stats and play for wait for it huge cash prizes oh nice jake picks let's go all right uh as the resident a fc east fan

on this show. We got the Bill's Dolphins game. Yep. We got the Bill's Dolphins game in Buffalo. No, nope. But we do have the Bill's Dolphins game. Okay. I'm a fan of James Cook.

I think he's looking good. I think the, based on my assumptions of this game, I think the bills are going to have to kill some clock. So I'm taking James Cook more than 54 and a half rushing yards. I like that. I like that. Are you a big James Cook guy? Are you a big going against the Dolphins defense guy?

The latter. Definitely the latter. When you have a player's only meeting, week one, that's nothing but a good sign for the team's defense, as we've discussed in this show. Yeah. That would be a fun stat to come up with, like, what are teams' performances after a play-only meeting?

How can we use this to our advantage on draft case? Welcome to the New Heights players-only pick set. Players-only pick-set. Now let's select players from the same or different teams to add to this pick set. Do we like Josh Allen? We love. We love Josh Allen. He played through that broken nose last week.

We're all in. So Josh has been confirmed that it was broken? It was bloody. I'm going to give it to him. Bloody and swollen. I'm going to give him a little at least moderate break. So we're going to go more or less than 234.5 passing yards for Josh Allen. Dolphins have given up a lot of passing yards.

So I feel like I'm going to take more on this one, too. got it got it that's well okay so we're expecting a huge day from the bills we're having a huge Thursday for the bills last one he's focusing on the dolphins for this one tyreek hill what is going to happen with this one 68.5 receiving yards jac i'll let you take this one i'll take this one so like we said uh we think the bills are going to be leading uh pretty much so dolphins are probably going to have to throw the ball a lot uh tyreek he he just had a week where he caught his uh you know got back in triple digits. He caught a 30-yard pass for the first time in a while.

I'm going Tyreek more 68 and a half receiving unions. All right. Nice. Okay, Turtle. That all makes sense. I like you. Turtle. All righty. Love it. We are only sharing.

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Limited time offer. See terms at pick6.draftkings.com slash promos. Let's move on to a little Heights Hotline, brought to you by Audible. We're bringing the Heights Hotline back. Next caller. I think I'm actually about to get pulled over right now. I'm actually driving. Anyway, I want y'all's opinion if you guys watch the OU versus Michigan game.

If we saw that power hit, do we like John McKear? What are just our, like, opinions on it? Oh, my God, yeah, no, I'm done before. I just got pulled over. Holy shit. I love how excited she was to call in. She's getting pulled over. I didn't see the game.

I very rarely have enough time to watch college. I'm watching way too much NFL. Jason, when was the last time you got pulled over? Last time I got pulled over? Been a long time. You remember the first time you ever pulled over? I do not. I remember getting pulled over in Cleveland Heights.

Yeah. Anybody that's ever drove through Cleveland Heights. Yeah, has gotten pulled over in Cleveland, They used to hide right behind the side of that brick wall. They still do it? Oh, yeah. So we don't have anything from this game? I mean, I watched the OU game.

I think the quarterback that she mentioned. He's got the 101. He's got the 10th jersey on, like my guy, Blakey Bell, the belldozer. That's all I got for you. I think he's a fun guy to watch. So if you get a chance to watch the Oklahoma Senators, yeah, check them out. They're pretty fun to watch. All righty.

Hi, gentlemen. I love your podcast. I am a over 60 huge chief fan, but have also enjoyed eagles at times when Jason was playing, not when we were losing on a Sunday. But my no dumb question is, what exactly is turf toe? And how can it sideline people for as long as. it seems to burrows is scheduled to be out up to three months I read and

Furti is out and so for maybe the same thing. So please enlighten me on what turf toe is and why something so silly sounding can it does sound silly. Let me tell you. It might have a

silly name. That shit ain't nothing silly about it. Let me show you what turf toe is. All right. Oh no. All right. What's he doing? This is your big toe. There's a ligament that connects that big toe down around to the bottom of the foot.

It's just, you're just showing this is fucking making me sweat. Well, either way, that ligament gets sprained or it can tear. Is it a tendon technically? I don't know. It's either a tendon or a ligament or whatever is. But that can get sprained. It can tear. There's different degrees of it.

Whenever you hear grade three, that bitch is clean off. Grade delivery. So he can't do this. He can't push his toe down. And if you think about it, whenever you are trying to run, do anything remotely athletic, you push off of your foot. And your toe is a big part of that, in particular, the big guy. This is a big point.

They're called your intrinsic muscles. You don't realize this, but your feet, your toes are grabbing the ground as you run. Keep going. What happens is when it's sprained, you put like a steel plate in the bottom of your shoe to try and limit how much flexion this thing gets, right? That's one way to deal with it, yeah. Other ways they tape it down. Yeah, yep, yep, that's another way to do it.

Another way is tape it down. So they try and limit how much it goes back to try and prevent the pain from happening, which is immense if it's a severe one. I mean, it's a pretty awful injury to have for anybody that's had it. In grade three is like you have to get surgery. You have to reattach it and then you're out for three months until it gets better. It's not a fun injury. It's one of the, anything with your feet is like.

The bottom of the feet, man. It's a painful one because it's everything. Even anything in your foot, yeah. Yeah. That shit sucks, man. And like you said, depending on how severe the injury is, whether the ligament or the tendon, and I'm not even sure which one it is either. It gets strained from one to three in terms of the grade.

That's when you've got to figure out, do I need surgery? Is this something I can just kind of manage throughout the rest of the years? Is it going to get better? Is it going to heal on its own? There's things like that. So that's why you see different timelines for recovery on this kind of injury. And I'm pretty sure. I mean, it sounds like Turf Toe, the name is that came from like the AstroTurf days

when the surfaces were extremely hard. And you didn't have the ability to kind of like your foot is being absorbed by the ground like a natural grass or it makes sense. Bottom line, it sucks. It should be a way more aggressive name. Like if you hear like an ACL tear, you're like, man, that's an aggressive sounding injury. You hear turf toe, it's like, oh, he can play through that, right? Yeah. Let me tell you.

It is. It's a painful one. And you can rupture it. There's even ways you shouldn't play through it if it is hurt enough. Hey, Jason. Hey, Javis. Hey. All the morning. What was a trick that you learned, Jason, to help potty train?

Oh, nice. My kid just takes his diaper off or his pull-up off and just goes wherever he was all over the house. So, all right, that's my question. Bye. I never had that. We haven't had that issue of taking it off and then going throughout the house. I'll tell you what, with each success of. kid, it becomes easier because then the kid before is like learning how the other one does it.

And I feel like with Wyatt, she was the first one that you actually had to like proactively get her to go on the potty. And the way we potty trainers, you can see them just starting to shit. Like, it ain't like hard to spot. Like when she goes off in the corner and just see her face starting to go like, do you need to poop right now, why? And then you're like, hey, let's go up on the potty. Once they get to a certain age, you're like, hey, let's go up on the potty.

And she's like, I swear to God, this is how you do it, Travis. You'll find out. You see them. And then they also start getting old enough that they get a little bit like, uh, like self-conscious about it. So they'll just kind of like wander off for a second. And then they'll be gone and you'll be like, I know what she's going to do. And she's trying to go get some privacy to go shit in a corner.

And you're like, hey, let's go up on the potty. And then you just put the potty seat down, take the diaper off, put her on. And then eventually she liked shitting on the potty. The peeing is a little bit, you know, they got to grow into that. They got to get tired of the uncomfortableness of the diaper. And then eventually they start peeing on the potty. And that's the way we did it. A couple of them would take their diapers off.

But we would usually put them back on before they started peeing all over the house. So, yeah, that's our strategy for potty training. Nice. Ed Kelsey would just say tie it in or not. But I guess you don't have a, you know, you don't have it. That's not an option for us. That's not an option. And to be honest, I couldn't tie mine in.

or not it's not option for me all right what else we got all right that does it for heights hotline brought to you by Audible and shout out to Audible for sponsoring the new heights tailgate in Kansas City

I heard it was a huge success the 92% of showed up and hung out with us before the game and here are some highlights Jason's earrings were a big time commodity here let's see those Oh, nice. Buffalo, Jason.

Oh, that was a pretty bad ass. I'm an Eagles fan. Look at that. Travis Tweet shirt. That's pretty fucking funny. That's a great tweet. That's a banger. That's a good evening right there.

Got to see what's popping. It's a great shirt, too. I kind of want one. And then the Andy Reads. What happened to you? A bunch of Andy Reeds lookalikes. That's pretty fucking funny. Shout out to the Andy Reeds.

A good Andy Reid lookal like as always. It's a classic. We're working on bringing one of these to Philly, actually, coming up soon. So, guys, stay tuned for that and appreciate you guys coming out. Yeah, baby. To old Casey Live for the New Heights Tailgate out in Kansas City. And that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you so much to our guest, Jimmy Fallon.

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if I went to your steakhouse? Jason no wrong answer So I really think, what do you think that Jimmy Fallon would order at your... There's a pastrami appetizer. But in real life, though, it really... I think you're going with a C-Bass. You're not even getting steak because you're a smart man.

Because you're a smart man. You're a man of culture and... The C-bass. It's really funny. You get the C-bass in the middle of the country. God, I love it.