New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Travis on the Super Bowl Loss, Jason on Mixed Emotions and Who's Going Over a Cliff? | Ep 124

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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This sport can humble you so fast. It can shoot you to the moon and it can bury you, man. I know that you don't probably care that much about it right now. I mean, you have so many records at this point that this is like kind of like just another one. But at the end of the day, it's just another thing that cements you as one of the best players ever to play in the NFL. That's the last thing that I care about right now. I know. The only record I get is that he like kept going on the field. He's out there again.

Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen Wondry Show produced by Wavesports and Entertainment and brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings Go. Order wings for takeout or delivery today. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey, my big brother Jason Kelsey. Subscribe on YouTube Wondry Plus wherever you get your podcast, follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S. man this is uh this is gonna be a a very um gotta do it type episode um obviously after the the big loss um this isn't uh the easiest thing to do get on here and um and talk to the world and especially our 92 percenters who tune in week in week out and um give us your time give us your your attention and and cheer

for us and and root us on and it was a it was a weird weekend but I appreciate you guys for all the support I've seen leading up to it and even afterwards but Jason before we get into everything why don't you let the people know what we got coming up we got a big episode guys're going to recap Super Bowl 59 and talk about, yeah, what else we got down to while we were in New Orleans. As always, we're going to get to some of your no dumb questions. But first, I guess we're going to get right into it. I don't know if there's any new news.

All the news is over. Yeah. So I guess we can just go. All right. All right. Cool. Well, Eagles 40, Chiefs 22. Yeah, damn. The three-peat did not happen, obviously. Did not happen in the Superdome. Eagles ended up getting it done. Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurch, Trav. I think people have been

waiting to hear from you since the game Sunday. Yeah. What do you want? What do you want to say? I don't know where you want to start. I mean, I already, you know, congratulated the Eagles. I, it was hard going into the exit interviews today. Obviously, the last time I'll see probably a lot of those guys as it'll, it'll be a bit of a turnover this year knowing the contract situations and everything and outside of the game. I just wanted to thank my teammates for everything they

fucking do man. We you know, the effort, the focus, the the work that we put in that wasn't the reason, you know, honestly, going into the game, I felt as confident as I ever felt in going into a Super Bowl or a playoff game or a big game in my life. For a bunch of reasons, it just didn't happen, man. It just wasn't our day. Couldn't find a lick of momentum. I'm kicking myself for some of the tiny, tiny decisions I made on the field, trying to do

something more than what I was asked to do during plays. I wasn't the best leader that I could be in motivating my guys and keeping my guys calm, cool, collected. I put a lot of that on myself as the guy that's been in the building for 12 years and seen a lot of football and actually seeing a situation just like this in the Super Bowl, talking about the Tampa Bay Super Bowl. It's a tough pill to swallow, man. Every time we felt like, you know, we made a big player, we

got something going. A penalty would happen or we'd be going backwards. And then on top of that, just not executing the play calls. It wasn't the play calls. It was a cumulative effort of everybody just not finding a way to get it done, man. And to happen on the biggest stage sucks, but to have it happen for the second time in my career on the biggest stage, man. It's a tough pill to swallow. It's a hard reality, man. I love my teammates. I love my coaches, Chief's Kingdom. I'm sorry for how it ended, but it's a... Fuck. I have a beautiful life. I have loved ones. I have a beautiful life, man. I have I have loved ones. I have the most amazing family in the world that supports me and everything that I do. And they were all there, you know, cheering me on and hoping for the best on on Sunday, man. I

just have to tip my hat to the Eagles. They were firing on all cylinders coming out and it just felt like we just never we never had control over what was going on in that game. It felt like every time you guys try to get something going, it just like didn't work out, right? And it's like you're close to getting a third down, get them off the field and they have to make a big play. There's a penalty. There's up until even like halftime, even though the score was getting out of control, there's that big throw, the de-hop that doesn't get caught. Even then, I'm a guard of the chiefs go down here.

They score before half, they get the ball coming out of half. I just came away very much. I know you guys are kicking yourselves for not playing your best game. The Eagles played fantastic. Everybody played their best across the board. It was a truly impressive game from Philadelphia defensively. All those guys, Vic Fangio, Jalen Hurts played very well. And that was the thing all week everybody's talking about, what Spags is going to do?

Is he going to try and sell out to stop Saquon and give the one-on-one matchups on the outside? I don't know. It almost didn't matter. I felt like it felt like Jalen was just on it and he was executing regardless of what it was. But I know this sucks to talk about for future. I've been here, obviously. Two years ago, I was here. That was great. But I think it was a really impressive performance by Philadelphia, to say the least. Yeah. It's going to sting. I know everybody wants to know whether or not I'm playing next year and right now I'm just kicking everything down the road. I'm kicking every can I can down the road and I'm not making any crazy decisions, but right now the biggest thing is just being there

for my teammates and being there for my coaches, understanding that there's a lot that goes into this thing. I've been fortunate over the past five, six years, I've played more football than anybody. And it's because the people that are in that building and the fact that we keep going to these AFC championships and these Super Bowls. That means I'm playing an extra three games more than everybody else in the entire league. That's a lot of wear and tear on your body. It's a lot of time spent in the building, focusing on your crafts, focusing on the task

at hand, every challenge that you set up for yourself. And that process can be grueling. It can weigh on you. It can make you better and it can drive you crazy at the same time. And right now, it's one of those things where it was kind of driving me crazy this year. And I think that it happens as you kind of tail off towards the back nine of your career as the SVP would say is, you know, it's as you see yourself or not feel yourself have the success that you once used to have, man, it's a tough pill to swallow. And then on top of that, to not be there in the biggest moments, knowing your team's counting on you, man.

Those are all extremely hard things to... It's just a tough reality. I think I'm going to take some time to figure it out. I think I owe it to my teammates that if I do come back, that it's gonna be something that it's a wholehearted decision and not half assing it. And I'm fully here for them. And I think I could play.

It's just whether or not it's I'm motivated or it's the best decision for me as a man, as a human, as a person to take on all that responsibility. You preach into the choir, brother. It sucks when you get to this point in the career where it becomes harder and harder to do it. And I think there's a physicality that becomes more difficult to manage. There's a mental approach that becomes more difficult to manage because a lot of times it's stocked on top of the physical discomfort and things that are happening. To do it right, you have to be committed and you have to put the time in and you have to be all in. And it's difficult

to sign up for that because you know what it takes. You've been here three years in a row, you've been to this game multiple times. You've had an amazing amount of success. And it's frustrating when you're getting older in your career and you know that that is becoming harder and harder to do and more and more grueling to go through. more grueling to go through. So take your time. Obviously, get away from everything for a while. The biggest thing is that, you know, after the game, I still had over 50 something plus of my best friends and my family and my loved ones and everybody that has supported me throughout my life was there to, you know, at least make it not feel like the worst day of my life. An opportunity

to get all those people together under one roof, be around them, you know, hug them, smile with them, find a way to, you way to get through something really, really tough. It definitely made it a little easier, but the reality is going to suck here for quite a while. It's just life, man. It's life. This sport can humble you so fast, man. It can give you so much praise. It can shoot you to the moon and it can bury you, man. It can absolutely bury you. And it's just, it's the occupation we chose and not everything can go as planned sometimes, even though we've been able to find a way over the past however long, but especially this

year in this team, we were known for finding a way and as much as I like to think we could have done things differently, man, it was just, it just didn't feel like at the end of it, it was meant to be, it is what it is. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's never been done before. It's never been done before for a reason. It's incredibly hard. It's hard to keep teams intact. It's hard to keep. You're having extended season. You guys have played 60 games damn near over the past three years or whatever. And I'm not trying to make excuses. There's just a reason why it's never been done. And I think that, you know, I know you guys are frustrated right now. I know you're frustrated. I think the

reality is what you guys have done is amazing. Still. I know that you don't want to hear that right now. And I know that that game is frustrating as a result, but that doesn't take away from It's frustrating as a result, but that doesn't take away from the last seven times you guys have been to the AFC Championship or whatever it is. I mean, it's remarkable, the journey and the run you guys have had. And you and Pat and Chris and certain guys have been at the epicenter for that entire time. And a lot of the guys on this team have been there for three, this was their third time in a row. I know it's frustrating to look at this one game, especially because it was such a dominating game for the Eagles. But I think that the reality is it's one of the incredible runs that's ever happened in this fucking game. And you guys have your legacies cemented on that and nobody can take that away. I mean,

people could try to talk shit, especially if they've never done anything in their lives. But that's the reality of it. There was one thing accomplished, which is Travis Kelsey set a record, a record for most catches in a career in the Super Bowl, which, Travis, that's a big record. Marshall S. Noo So, it's not a very big record. Trenton Larkin Why do you say it's not a big record? I have a lot of Super Bowl appearances. So do a lot of people. What do they say?

Records are meant to be broken. That they are. Well, you broke one. You broke the most catches in Super Bowl history, which I know that you don't probably care that much about it right now because of the way the game went. I mean, you have so many records at this point that this is like kind of like just another one.

But at the end of the day, it's just another thing that cements you as one of the best players ever to play in the NFL. I know you don't care about that, but I think at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, the records mean a little bit. Because once you're done, that's kind of all you have left is like the memories, the trophies, which obviously mean the most. And then the stuff that makes other people recognize greatness, which unfortunately there are a lot of stats, but that's kind of all we have outside of trophies and highlights. Marshall No, I mean, I'm still, that's the last thing that I care about right now.

I know, but you will. So, and it's dope. Just here to tell you, it's a fucking dope record. Thanks, brother. As are all your other records. Off into the line, the only record I get is that he like kept going on the field. He's out there again This guy really won't take a break he's Headed out to the field for another consecutive week How'd he do? No one knows just counts as a game played He only played the first drive I know he had four bad snaps. Yeah, exactly.

There we go. I feel for you because losing a Super Bowl sucks. I mean, I don't wish that on anybody. I talk all week. No matter who won or lost, I feel like I was going to be feeling shitty and feeling more with the team that lost. Because I know what that feels like and it's fucking terrible. What was it like for you watching this one?

Terrible? Yeah. You tweeted out something and- Yeah, but I didn't even want to tweet it. I think I would rather do it here because you'd be able to talk more. But it doesn't matter what happens. Whatever you say is going to get clipped or touched and put out. It sucks. I knew it was going to be weird going into it. It progressively got weirder as the week went on. On one hand, you played your entire life with an organization and team. A lot of people in that building, coaches, friends, teammates that you've gone through adversity with and it really makes you very, very close. And then on the other hand, you have your brother.

And I've always supported you. I've always wanted you to win. Every step of the way. And I wanted you to win this game. I thought I made that clear. You made it clear to me. It was weird, man. It was hard to navigate because I'm trying to like, obviously I'm trying to say that

I have people on the Eagles that I'm trying to say that I have people on the Eagles that I love and I also have you. And I tried to make it known that I was rooting for you and it felt like I couldn't be right. Felt like no matter what I said, some people were going to skew it and say that I'm rooting for the Eagles and some people were going to skew it and say that I was rooting for the Chiefs or Travis and it sucked. It's the world we live in, man. Everybody wants to just fucking call people out. I know I always had your support and I joked around saying with your cheering for the EG,

listen, you and Kylie are there in Philly and have created one of the most beautiful situations that I've ever seen. You guys are loved by the community out there. You guys are very much a part of the community out there. Outside of that, that organization, everything from the foundation stuff that Kylie does, they both of you guys do, to the countless, countless amount of hours and years you spent in that organization, giving it everything that you have. You don't have to explain anything to anybody. As long as the people right here, I know who Jason Kelsey is and I know my brother and what his intentions

are and nobody can ever fucking confuse that. You can't let these gemmokes online make you think that you're in the wrong for what you're saying. What you're saying is, I hear it. I hear it loud and clear. And I think the people in the Philadelphia organization understand exactly who you are and what you represent and how you were saying it as well. Yeah. And all that is true. Like we are still very much attached to this organization, which is why there was part of me that obviously is very happy and proud that they have won this game But that doesn't take and that doesn't make you less of a brother. That doesn't take you less of a brother that doesn't make you

That does not take precedence over rooting for you Yeah, and that's why this game sucked It was very very hard to watch as much as I love the Eagles as much as I love the city of Philadelphia, there was not a fucking out to me. And I know that like, I don't know. I tried to correlate that I was rooting for both sides the whole time and that I was going to be happy and sad regardless. No matter who won, it was going to be a happy and sad regardless. And trying to communicate why I might be rooting for the Eagles. I think some people I don't even want to do this. I don't even know. Like, as now, we've already done it.

Welcome. You don't owe any of these dickheads the acknowledgement. You really don't, Jason. Everyone that knows you knows your intentions. Anybody saying anything otherwise is like you said, just a fucking, just trying to get a rise out of somebody else. It was the weirdest game ever watching. Because the only other time you don't care about the outcome is when you're not really attached to either of the teams. And in that case, there's not a lot of emotion put into it.

Yeah. Like I still remember like the first play, the AJ Brown penalty. I remember this like wealth of like, like I jumped up out of my seat. That wasn't a penalty. Like I jumped up out of my seat on that one. Then I jumped up out of my seat on the Nick Bolton hitting Dallas Goddard, because I thought that was a horseshoe call. And I'm going back and forth. It ended up just not being a fun game to be a part of her watch. Because at all times, I'm just like, I was, yeah, I don't know. I don't

even know what I want to say, man. I really don't. Because no matter what, it's going to piss somebody off. And I probably shouldn't care if it pisses anybody off. That's probably the reality of it. That's the Jason Kessler we all know right there. You're giving these people way too much fucking, too much of your effort, too much of your time, too much of your attention. I didn't know what it was going to feel like going through the game. I thought I did.

I thought I understood going into it that I would be happy in some way, sad in another way. But like the further the game went on, I just got more and more like down upset. And part of that is like I'm in a box with all of our family and loved ones and friends. We're all just like, dude, this sucks for Trev. This sucks for his team. And I don't know, like I wasn't, I didn't anticipate the amount of just like sheer discomfort and frustration that I would have watching the game. I thought I would kind of just be like, ah, you know, like, I like both of these teams, whoever wins made the best team win. And it just didn't turn into that. It didn't. And I don't

know if it would have been reversed if it would have been the same way. I don't think it was an actual game. That might've made it better. I think the fact that it was that kind of like lopsided was like, man, this is fucking just like, hard to be honest with you. Yeah. Listen, man, nobody's, nobody's going to be able to relate to what you or me or, you know, even Kylie, nobody can relate to what it's like to have to pick between those two like sit this type of situation. But he knows what it's like to even. That was my whole thing, I wasn't trying to pick.

Exactly, exactly. So, but it's, you can still be happy for somebody and you can still be sad for somebody. It is what it is, you know? And that's the way it is. It's fucking football, man. Either then, and I know I'm saying it like that because I just lost the fucking game and I'm going

to act like it didn't mean the entire world, but it's my third in three years. I've had so much success playing this game. It still means the world and it always will and this one's going to fucking hurt just like fucking Tampa did. And I think about that way too often. But this game is just, you know, it's, it's just our jobs. My life is still beautiful. My, I come home to a, an amazing household of family and friends that absolutely love me. And I, you know, that's, that's the beauty of going through a hard time like this is that I can still have happiness and still have an amazing time in life even when something like this happens because I got the support that I do. And that's how I'm going to feel about it.

I'm definitely compartmentalizing and putting this in the back corner and I'll deal with this at another time. But you know, I'm not going to sit here and act like the world's over because of this thing and I don't think... I would not expect you to. I just don't know how to articulate that I'm happy for some of the Eagles, but at the same time, I was miserable during the game watching you not achieve your success again. That's the reality of it. Like I didn't enjoy any part of that. It fucking sucked. And like it felt weird for me not to be cheering. That's what it felt like. It felt like why the fuck am I not as excited?

And I think it was just a fucked up emotion. And it's really incredible that the Eagles pulled this off. It's been incredible from last year's ending and the way this team has rebounded, the way they've been rebuilt from 2022 and before that. It's a tip of the cap for Howie Roseman. There are so many new players on the defensive side of the ball and all of these young guys ended up panning out and have played at a high level between Cooper Dugene, Quinian Mitchell, Zach Bond, Milton Williams, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis on the defensive line, Nolan Smith, Vic Fangio and all the coaches on the defensive side of the ball. It didn't start great. I mean, they started two and two. Coming off of a year where they finished seven and eight. The way they stuck together, the way they got better, the way they continued to improve and how they finished the season

has been spectacular on that side of the ball. Obviously, getting Saquon was huge offensively. Getting rid of the undersized center, Jason Kelsey and putting in Cam Juergens. Getting Mackay Becht in at right guard. I just think everything was fantastic and how they continued to like block out noise, questioning Nick Sirianni and his abilities as a head coach, questioning Jalen Hurts, questioning everybody. These guys really stuck it together and found a way to fucking do it and it's hard. It is so hard to get all the way to the

shoot ball and win in this league. I just think this is such a huge moment for all of these guys that came up short two years ago that were there and how they built this thing in the two years since. And it makes being a former Eagle extremely proud. And I think the entire city obviously means a lot. Do you want me to cut all that Travis? You look like you're just like... TK It's your dude. You're allowed to have your world, your legacy, your word. You're allowed to have that. You can be happy for your former teammates. Don't let who, what happened to me, you know, make you feel any less proud of what you've helped build. JL I didn't help build shit. They did this on their, I'm not a part of this.

KB Yes, you did. I hear you. I hear you like to think that, Jason. I think that you've shown a lot of people in that building, how to be a professional, how to do things the right way. I can sit here and say that you definitely had a piece of that. I know you weren't in that building doing everything, but I've heard guys like Jordan Malata talk about you. I've heard guys like Jaylen Hertz talk about you. I've heard Lane Johnson talk about you and what you've been to their career. So you can say that what you can say that it's, you had nothing to do with it, but bits and pieces of who you are still living and breathing in that facility for sure.

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Out of the house. Brought to you by American Express. Jason, how was it being down in New Orleans all week? Was it as tasty and as fun as you remember it being? Dude, first of all, I don't remember a lot from college. I feel like when you're playing in a game, you don't really get to experience the city. You know this, you guys are there for the whole week, but you're practicing and your schedule is so laid out, you have like maybe two to three hours of the day that you could go do something. And when you get that time, you're usually not spending it going out. You're like, all right, I'm going to take this time to do nothing. This is the first time being in New Orleans where I really got to experience the city because every other time I've been there, it's been for football.

And I got to say, I fucking love that city, man. It was an awesome host city. Las Vegas was great. It really was. And it was the perfect infrastructure set up, Hostess Soup Bowl. New Orleans, the perfect vibe, food, mentality, culture. I mean, it was just unreal. The issue was the infrastructure is awful. Like, there was going from place to place was a train wreck. And then at night, for some reason, they have this ordinance that whenever the train's coming through town, it has to blow its horn every time it's going to a crosswalk. So you're just hearing a fucking train horn constantly in the middle of the night, which is annoying as fuck. But outside of that, it was fantastic. It was really good. Benyais.

Yeah, I was about to say, you get some more Benyais, some more gumbo or what? I went to, I went to Cafe du Monde, like the original one, which not even just the Benyais, it's the whole vibe of it. It's got like the little hats and the get up and you're outside and it's just a, it's a dope vibe. You ever been to Keys? No. I don't even know what the rest of it is. It's like Keys Fried Chicken. I think it's, we're, so I went to get my palm red and we were talking, we had like all these trendy spots that we were going to hit up after that. And after the Palm reading, they're like, oh, we're trying to like, where are we going to go to eat? And the guy's, hey,

if you want the local experience, you got to go to Keys. I was like, Keys, yeah, it's a gas station, the service fried chicken. I was like, yeah, that's right up Jason Kelsey's alley. So we went over to this place, bro. The most like similar, not similar, but like, again, the best barbecue spot, my favorite barbecue spot in Kansas City. Joe's. Is Joe's. Like, there's something about food being served at a gas station that just is like, yeah, I'm going to check this out. If it's got a good, if food at a gas station has some word of the mouth going about it, you know that shit's good. So we pull up to this spot, Keys, it's got po po boys, fried chicken. I get up there

and I- This is what made sheets in quick trip like the staples that they are in this world. Seriously. No doubt. And I get up there and I'm like, all right, let me get some dark meat. And the guy's like, get the white meat. And I was like, dude, white meat, it's too dry. I don't like white meat. He's like, hey, this white meat ain't dry. So I got a chicken breast. First bite into that chicken breast, dog. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Dry as shit. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Nothing dry about it. That shit was so fucking good. It was, it was, and it was the perfect amount of spice where it's not overwhelmingly

spicy in that first bite, but the more you eat, it just like starts engulfing you. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yeah, it gets you going. Dr. Justin Marchegiani But I got, I got the fried chicken. I got a hot sausage po' boy, which was phenomenal. I tried a pineapple soda, Big Shot, which I guess is specific to New Orleans. It was like a pineapple creamsicle. It was so fucking good. So I was getting a bunch of convenience store local spots.

Some baked good that came in like a tray. I forget what that was called, but it was like a brownie. He was fucking real good. All right. Kiley and I went out to a fancy dinner one night called- Ooh, you fancy son of a bitch. It was what Peyton recommended. It was Clancy's. Oh, nice. Yeah. Nice.

It was really good. One of the items that they're really recommended for is the fried oysters. I see. That's the thing. I'm in on, I'm out on loogies. Yeah, but the fried- But a few fried things. Yeah, it's different. Different experience. Maybe throw some cheese on there? I don't know if you know this, but there was a, there was an oyster recall while we were

down there. So, we didn't eat any of the oysters. All the barstool got sick. They were all getting the neurovirus from the oysters. It's unfortunate. So, we didn't have any of the oysters and we didn't have any of the oysters at Clancy's, but they had plenty of them. I had turtle soup. That was Cajun style turtle soup. It's fucked up, man. Eating turtles? Turtles. Amen. Now that I know what they taste like, I'm going to keep eating them. It was damn good. That turtle soup was great. What do you eat in them? What do you mean? Is there like, do you eat the leg? What do you eat? It was so chopped up. What's in those shells that...

I think you eat the... Yeah, I have no idea. I'm not gonna lie. I have no idea what you're eating, but it was great. The turtle soup was fantastic. I had a smoked double-cut pork chop. Did they just flip that thing open and you just eat it out of the shell? Like the shell was a bowl?

No, you don't even know it's a turtle. You just see the meat in like the soup kind of cut up. It's like little spoonfuls. Yeah, I'm out. Very good. Highly recommend. The house salad was great. The double cup pork chop was phenomenal. Did you go to any Super Bowl parties or no? I went to the New Heights party. I went to a Stapleton concert and then outside of that, I just lost all my money at the casino. Casino is right next door. And because I won so much money last year at Las Vegas, I thought, you know, we'll just

keep this rolling. This would be great. Yeah, it didn't work this time. So it was back to why I normally don't go to the casino because they're just like, just handing them money. It's fucking guy Tang flip 21. I'm like, goddamn Tang nominee. Should I just bend over and pull my pants down?

Is that where we're at right now? I like, I like my odds. I don't like it when, cause then I hate the per the dealer. Oh no, I don't ever take it on the dealer. Although I did get mad at Taylor. I did get mad at Tang because he let somebody hit on a 14 when he was showing a five. And I was like, Tang, that's a piece of shit move, dog. You can't let that, you got to ask, like, are you sure? You got to like be, you know what I mean? Like I know, I always tip dealers, dealers are the best, but you can't be letting

somebody just like hit on a 14. But what if you got to double check? You got to ask like, are you sure? Like, and point to the five that you're, that you're showing. You know what I mean? That's dealer etiquette. What if the guy was just feeling it? I think that in all honesty, the person that hit was a little drunk and he was continually having to correct her. And I think he just got tired of doing it. But I saw that happen and I was like, the moment that happened, I was like, this whole fucking I'm losing all my goddamn money right now. I get so impatient having to quote unquote play by the book. I don't do anything by the book. So it's like for me to have to sit there. You do some things by the book. I don't do

anything by the book. I'm like, I'm splitting the fuck out of 10s every single time. I'm doing everything, dude. I'm doing it all. If there's any chance that I could make more money than what I just put down. Yeah, I'm doing it. Any chance to double split? All of it. Every say I'm doing the side bets every fucking turn Oh my god, if i'm feeling a lot of low cards coming out at a time at a certain time i'll fucking hit I'll hit on 16. I don't give a shit. Yeah. Yeah, you do not want to play nobody wants to play blackjack with me We tried roulette, you know, you've turned kylie into a big roulette player. I hate roulette. I've turned her into it? Yeah. You. You taught her how to play.

She knew how to play when I sat down with her. No, she did not know how to play. You taught her. You said, you got to play this way. No, I didn't. Sit down on the European table and play the outsides. Kylie learned this when she was taking French. No, I did. Sit down on the European table and play the outsides. No, no, no. Yeah.

Kylie learned this when she was taking French. When she learned French, she learned how to play roulette. Then I'm sitting there playing craps and this fucking just dude is sitting down playing the don't pass line, killing it. Just killing it. Don't pass. It's that vibe. That is disgusting, dude.

I want to fucking kill this guy so bad. Your energy right now is ruining my time. Do you mind putting it on the pass line? Dude, craps. But then I kind of like it because I'm like, I'm just going to play just to try and win and he's killing me. And then it's like, goddamn. I might just go live in a casino for a month. That might have been, to be honest, that was a bigger bloodbath than the game was like I know you're frustrated with the Eagles Chiefs game The craps table with Jason Kelsey first this guy even I mean it was even more embarrassing it was

I don't know if we can get any more embarrassing than that Coolest person you ran into all week coolest the coolest I saw. I saw you go past one guy at the game. You did? Who? The Sandman. Yes, you did see that. I did see that. I felt I was kind of in a rush, like hurrying past him and I almost missed him and he's

like, Jason, it's Adam. I'm like, yeah, I know you fucking are Adam Sandler. Are you kidding me? But thank you for stopping me. Nah, that was dope. It was awesome seeing the Sandman. Saw Rob McElhenney. He was in the suite next to us.

Saw Bradley Cooper from a few suites down. We did a nice wave. We didn't go over there, but- BC. That's my guy right there, man. Oh, who else did I see? I saw Scotty Hartnell. Scotty Hartnell was out there.

Aaron and Carissa. Saw, I saw Stapleton, Chris, saw Bert Kreiser, saw Bussin, saw PMT. I just said the coolest person that ever. Oh, sorry. Yeah, my bad. Who? Oh, the coolest person I saw was Mike, Michael Cherry Coke. He was... Let me make sure I get his accolades right. So I went to a US Naval Air Base down there. I met this guy, he's from Philadelphia, at Weaver's Orchard. We were picking apples with the girls one off season. And he's like, hey, if you're ever in New Orleans, you should stop by the military base. You guys want to do the podcast there or do whatever, we'd love to have you. And dude, he invited me down. I got to see like a practice routine with a bunch of jets that

went off. They were doing like tactical formations and stuff. Dude, it was insane. It was absolutely... That's awesome. I got in a flight simulator. How'd you do? I mean, I was coming right off Bourbon Street, so not great. It was very wobbly flight, very wobbly flight. With a joystick. But dude, very disorienting too. Like whoa. He did not let me land it. He was like, there's no way you're going to

be able to land this. So we're just going to move this, keep this thing moving. What else? What else? What else? I got to get down there. Dude, it was so sick. Honestly, it would be great to go back and do a podcast there because those dudes are awesome. It's just a great vibe. I also just love being around military guys because they're always just like, I don't know, they're gems dude. What else? Ate a bunch of king cake. Went to the oldest bar running continuously in New Orleans. It was like something blacksmith. It's been open for like 300 years. Lafitte's blacksmith bar, right? Freaking dope. Super cool spot. So we got it. We got the best. We did a lot. We did a lot.

Mad Fientist I think you've officially perfected getting out of the house, Jason. I'm just, as a brother of you and knowing who you've been your entire life, I'm proud. I'm happy to see this. Jason Bahl Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm happy to see you turn into this and enjoy what the world has to offer. And shout out to New Orleans, man. I don't have the fondest of memories there, but... The Kelseys have awful luck in New Orleans. There is a... Sugar Bowl. I lost a playoff game here in 2018 after the Super Bowl, well 2019.

And then obviously this last week. Yeah. And then, but I will say this, I have always enjoyed the random times that I was in New Orleans. And I have so many, so many friends and teammates that I just fucking love that are from the state of Louisiana, but specifically around the New Orleans area. And I got nothing but love for them. I'm not gonna lie. I love the culture.

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were both there and watching it, is we didn't get to see the best commercials. I mean, that's the one thing that everybody is so synonymous with the Super Bowl. It's one of the best ads of the year and there was one that we wanted to highlight, but there was a Nike ad. It's the first Super Bowl ad in 27 years and featured a load of female athletes, including, I mean, one of the biggest episodes we've ever done, in Caitlin Clark. You, I love Nike commercials. I've been a huge fan of Caitlin Clark

since she's been in college, obviously through the Olympics. Sha'Carri Richardson. Yep. You can't win, so win. Yeah, speaking of all the things Yep. You can't win, so win. Yeah. Speaking of all the things they say women can't do. Yeah.

If there's one thing I can firmly get on board with is telling a bunch of people who think you can't do something to shove it. I'm all on board with that. That's a great message by Nike. I'm with that as well. With some incredible athletes. A bunch of familiar faces, yeah.

Gold medal winners, freaking champions. Nike, thank you for such a powerful message on the biggest stage. You know, obviously everybody watches those Super Bowl commercials to see what messages are sent and Nike sent in one of the best ones of this year. So and shout out to Kailin. Killing it. Getting in a dope ass Nike commercial, man. Gosh. Got to love it. That's another thing that's nostalgic.

Being like the face of Nike. Yeah. Right. And it also being Nike's. Well, Jordan was the face of Jordan, I guess. But Tiger, he was originally the face of Nike. Right. So you got Jordan, you got Tiger, LeBron. There's somebody in between those. But I mean you got Jordan, you got Tiger, LeBron, there's somebody in between those but... I mean Griffey. Griffey. Kobe, Wayne, Wayne Gretzky. Shout out to Nike for jumping in on the Super Bowl commercials, coming with one that actually had a very,

very meaningful message to it, to all the young women athletes out there. Yeah, absolutely. I'll always be Team Nike. Alrighty, time for No Dumb Questions. No Dumb Questions is brought to you by Marvel Studios, Captain America Brave New World. How about that? How about it? We got superhero movies we're doing ad reads for now. All right. Mr. J Danger at Mr. Danger 1 actually saw this tweet and thought it was hilarious as a no-dumb question. So this was in response to the statement I released saying that I love and care about you more than anyone else, more than anyone.

Right? And this question, this was a prompt underneath that response of basically saying that it's ridiculous that I would say that I love you more than Kyla Indigo's, which I love you the same, but we're going to read this question. I don't love anybody more, I love you the same. You don't have to say it. It's a fact that you think I give a fuck about, this is so funny. I know you're- We're going to read this question.

Go ahead. If you had to push Travis or your wife over a cliff, who would you choose? You must choose one. Don't skirt the question, Jason. You said you love no one more than Travis. Who are you, so are you pushing your wife over? Here's my answer and tell me if I'm correct. Should I answer first or do you want to answer first?

This question is for you. Okay. I'm pushing Travis over because he would tell me to push him over the cliff. 100%. Bam baby! Don't you fucking push Kylie off the fucking cliff? Are you kidding me? I'll be just fine. I'll tuck and roll.

I'll fucking hit the ground and fucking roll out of that fucking thing. I'll find a way out of this. I'll flank away to safety. I don't know how the fuck I'll tuck and roll and hit the ground and roll out of that thing. I'll find a way out of the news. I'll flank away to safety. I don't know how the fuck I'll do it. I'll fucking sprawl out like a flying squirrel or some shit. I'll be fine. I'll figure some shit out. But Chris Farley in American Heroes, is that the movie?

Dude, oh my God. Now that's a deep cut right there. I love that fucking scene. Oh, Matthew Perry. Is that what that movie, I think it was American heroes, right? Yeah. Something like that.

It was, something heroes. Yeah. I think it was American heroes. Yeah, they were fucking. Dog. They were racing fucking Lewis and Clark to the West. Yeah. Ah, that's funny.

Should we keep re-imagining this question? No, I think you answered it. All right. If it's, if you had to push, if you had to push me or mom over a cliff, who would you choose? You must choose one. Don't skirt the question. Don't skirt the question. Don't skirt the question Travis. Mom's like 70, you have kids that need to be raised. Damn it. Don't skirt the question Travis. You gotta choose one. I'm gonna choose mom because you would want me to push mom.

Oh my God. Oh man. I think I wouldn't push either of you. I jump off. That's what I might. When I first read this question, I thought the exact same thing. Like I just jump off of the cliff, but I don't think it works like that. It's hypothetical. It doesn't happen.

You can't and I think the answer, dude, you got to push me. This is the code of being a man. When the lifeboats are getting loaded, the women and children go first. You got to push me. But I think mom would jump off. That's what I think. She's not on here to vouch, but I know that if it was me versus any of my siblings, I'm jumping off the fucking cliff. You don't even got to push me. But unless that's not allowed, then I'll tell you to push me. I'll give you the nod. And if you're not allowed to say it, I'll just go like this. For future reference, if we're ever in this scenario.

Just a little. And we're not allowed to, we're taped. Speak. If I just go like this, push me. Right off the cliff. You're fucking hilarious. Nice, just in case we ever get caught in that. Just in case we ever get caught in this ridiculous hypothetical situation, push me. Thank you, Mr. J Danger. Thank you for using X responsibly. Next one, no dumb questions.

Hashtag, do you put the cereal first or the milk first? Do I put the cereal first or the milk first? Do I put the cereal first or the milk first? And this is why we have this fucking segment in here as no dumb questions. This is about as stupid of a question as I've ever heard. Everyone knows the cereal goes in first. Be careful, Trev, be careful what you say. Everyone knows the cereal goes in first.

I don't know if you're aware. You have to lather up all the cereal. Because I'm on the same page with you. You don't just pour it in one part of the bowl either. You pour it over the top and you get everything covered in milk. I'm 100% with you. There's no logical reason to pour the cereal second, but for some reason, Kylie pours the cereal second. Why? And it's never made sense to me. I don't know why. I mean, in no other situation where

a solid goes into a liquid, would you ever put the solid in second? Like it's just asking for a disaster to happen. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Like you're not, you don't fill a glass up to the brim and then start loading ice cubes in that motherfucker, you're going to get water all over the place. What are we doing here? Yeah. But Kylie does do it that way.

That doesn't make any sense. And I usually don't say anything because it's none of my business, even though I think it's ridiculous. It's not the argument to start. And also it doesn't make it taste better.. If you just like dry cereal, what are you putting the milk anywhere with it? There's a reason you put the milk in second because it kind of gets the cereal to the perfect consistency of moist. Dude, it's thank you.

Yeah. Nice. So Kyle, you're wrong on this one. I'll go to it. And I'm pretty sure if we put a poll out, you'd be in the bottom 8% of the 92%. Well, there's only one way to find out. 92%ers, we will have a poll. So let us know if us or Kylie are in the right. Next no-dome question, what do we got? Okay. But okay, from at Notorious RBG, okay, but speaking of loyalty issues, what about

this? It's 10 years from now, you both retired and our beloved Browns inexplicably have made it to the Super Bowl versus the Chiefs and Eagles. Oh. LARSON 10 years from now? JLM Who are we rooting for? LARSON That's a good question. Initially, I would say that I wouldn't even think about cheering for the Browns. But I do still have that childhood Cleveland sports fan fandom in me. Yeah, for sure.

And to see, you know, how the situation over there in Cleveland has been since I've been in the league. Yeah, it's been rough. What do you mean since you've been in the league? Since they've come back. I mean, the Tim Couch era wasn't horrible. And they made it to the playoffs. Wasn't the best.

I just feel like the organization wasn't looked at the way they're looked at right now. Sure. And right now it's pretty rough. And I think Cleveland deserves to get a year in, year out, respectable and great product out there on the field. Now, don't get me wrong, Flacco leading them to the playoffs and giving them some fun to cheer for last year as the Cinderella story. I enjoyed talking to my friends about that one. One, because it's easy to cheer for a guy like Flacco. What I'm trying to say is there will be the kid in me that cheers for the Browns, but if there's anybody

still left from the run that we've had here in Kansas City, I would probably say I hope for the best for them. Yeah, I'm going to go Eagles. I've already learned my lesson. I'm not touching the Browns with like for a second. They already think I don't want root for them for some reason. If it's anybody other than the Chiefs and Eagles, I'm going Browns. I mean, that's what it comes out. They're the next team, but we've both spent a lot of time and energy personally with both of these franchises, I don't think at this point. Browns versus Chiefs, maybe, but Browns versus Eagles, no, I'm going Eagles.

Yeah. I'm going, I can say the same. Browns versus Chiefs, I'm going Chiefs. Browns versus Eagles, I'll go Browns versus Eagles? No, I'm going Eagles. Yeah, I'm going, I could say the same. Browns versus Chiefs, I'm going Chiefs. Browns versus Eagles, I'll go Browns. They're probably fourth behind whatever team you're coaching for. Shout out to Andy for dropping that knowledge on us. Trav, Coach Trav has a future. Coach Trav. Coach Trav.

Would you go by Coach Trav or Coach Kelsey? Coach Kels sounds way better. I like Coach Trav. I don't know what it is. Does it? All right, fair enough. Coach Kelsey. I think just Kels, not even Kelsey.

God damn it. Don't do this again. You be Coach Kelsey. And you'd be like, don't call me Coach Kelsey, you motherfuckers. Well that does it for No Dumb Questions, brought to you by Marvel Studios, Captain America, Brave New World. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Not the most fun one to start off, but... Yeah, thanks to your No Dumb Questions, we found a way to close it out. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube to the New Heights channel and follow New Heights

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