New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Trey Smith on Chiefs New Faces, Being Pat Mahomes' Enforcer, and His Wild Path to the NFL | Ep 145

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Starting point is 00:01:35 Starting off with Travis being called out by Big Mayo. Oh my gosh. You've been called out, Trav. That's right. It's official. We've also got some no dumb questions to Answer Plus from the Kansas City Chiefs. Trace Smith is with us. Let's start with some of the new news.

Starting point is 00:01:50 All right. Now, new news is brought to you by mayonnaise. That is Hellman's mayonnaise. That's right, baby. Who doesn't love mayonnaise? Travis doesn't love mayonnaise. That thick old egg batter. And now the her sponsor.

Starting point is 00:02:06 What? Travis, you're not going to believe this. Will Levis has called you on Instagram. No. Why did he call me out? What did I do? Well, Will is a known mayo advocate and your mayo hate. He is going to challenge you to eat your words. Why? Why? Literally. I don't know. Challenge not accepted. I don't even know the challenge, but if it

Starting point is 00:02:29 has anything to do with mayo, I'm out. Okay, well, this is why Travis, this is why Will is challenging you to try Hellman's Eat Your Words challenge. They're out here challenging mayo haters to give their flavored mayo a shot. I've never said a single bad thing about mayo. Travis, are you kidding me? This is like nails on a chalkboard to me, dude. I love it.

Starting point is 00:02:54 I love mayo. Listen. It's so good. All right. But you're, you're acting like this is regular mayo. This is totally different. This is spicy mayo, right? There's flavor to it. It's got an amazing smoky kick to it. It's not, it's not, this isn't regular mayonnaise. This is totally different. This is spicy mayo, right? There's flavor to it. It's got an amazing smoky kick to it. It's not, it's not, this isn't regular mayonnaise. You like spicy, spicy aioli. Think of it like that. It's just spicy aioli.

Starting point is 00:03:13 All right, maybe I'll think about it only because it's spicy mayo and it takes away from the eggy thickness of this so-called Hellman's mayonnaise. You hear that, Will? You hear that, Will? That sounds like a small win for the 92%ers on a future episode. That's right. Travis might possibly, with a non-zero chance, eat mayonnaise. So stay tuned for if he does or does not accept, but he kind of does half-heartedly. You guys know what I'm saying. That does it for new news brought to you by Hellmint. Yes, it does. It's terrifying. Before we get to this Trace Smith episode, time for some no dumb questions brought to you by Perplexity AI. Discover fast and reliable search with Perplexity AI today.

Starting point is 00:04:09 Alrighty. First no dumb question from at Hummingbird Cake Nola N1. What was your favorite struggle meal? Struggle meal, okay. When you were broke. And what's the fanciest or most expensive thing you've ever eaten? So I'm devising from context what struggle meal means. Is this just like the politically correct way to say broke ass meal or something like that? Like we'd call it struggle meal. I've never heard.

Starting point is 00:04:37 I've never heard struggle meal either, but I understand. I don't know why I don't like it. I don't like it. You're struggling. What is your favorite, like cheap ass meal? Like something like I don't. Dude, I don't like it. You're struggling. What is your favorite, like cheap ass meal? Like something like I don't do. I mean, you already know we could round up. I got a few good ones.

Starting point is 00:04:51 The old Wendy's dollar menu. Fuck. Yeah. No, you know, one of my fucking favorite things to do was in college after I went through my entire FAFSA check and my my scholarship check would be to call dad to tell him to call dominoes and put in a large pizza for me. So your struggle was calling your parents. Yeah, I mean, it's been, I mean, I've had a beautiful life. It works.

Starting point is 00:05:20 It works. I guess in college, we've, you know, you're like ramen noodles. I couldn't do ramen noodles, man. Oh, I love ramen noodles. When I think of food, like things that are, you know, I just, we don't have any money or we're like getting the bare bottom of the pantry. I think of ramen noodles, I think of like beans and weenies, big beans and weenies fan. That's one of my favorites.

Starting point is 00:05:43 Hated beans and weenies. Hamburger helper, does that count? Is that kind of like... Okay, TV dinners. TV dinners. Yeah. Like what are the just like heat them up type deals? But that's the thing. Like if I'm struggling and I'm broke, I'm like, I'm probably going to go to like McDonald's and just get a few like things off the dial. Like, I don't know if you can even do that. I haven't. I haven't. Yeah, the value menu. I haven't like...

Starting point is 00:06:04 I don't think they're a dollar anymore. I I haven't. I haven't. Yeah. The value menu. I haven't like, I don't think they're a dollar anymore. I think they've upped them. It's fucked. What is your favorite value meal item at any fast food chain? Dude, junior bacon cheeseburger. I mean, it's good. I feel like I had so many of them in college.

Starting point is 00:06:19 Used to be able to get fucking nuggets for a dollar. I know. I think I used to like them so much in college. I just kind of got turned off of JBCs. They're not, it's not as good to me anymore. You could always go and get guys pizza slice for a dollar. I mean, dude, if you're really cramped, you go in with a couple of buddies for a crave case from White Castle.

Starting point is 00:06:37 I mean, you're- Ooh, White Castle, man. Dude. You're fucking stuffed. That's a lot of sliders. It's like, I think You're fucking stuffed. That's a lot of sliders. I think it's like 20. I feel like Taco Bell didn't really have a great value menu. I think the whole menu is just kind of value. Dude, what? You could order the entire menu twice with like fucking $20. What? I think

Starting point is 00:06:58 that's what I'm saying. I think the whole thing was just value. You walk into Taco Bell with $5. I think the whole thing was just value. You walk into Taco Bell with $5, you can get breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I mean, before Subway started price gouging, those $5 footlongs, that's a pretty damn good deal. It is. Yeah. As you can see, we've lived a life fully of privilege. I guess, yes, cereal. Cereal is another one of them. You get a box for a dollar and some change, you get a fuck ton of meals out of

Starting point is 00:07:26 that box. You ever ate cereal with water? I've done it. I mean... It's not ideal. I'm not upset with just the crunch and like not getting them soggy. I like the sogginess, especially specific types of cereal. Like it's just better being a little soggy.

Starting point is 00:07:42 You're like a soggy oatmeal guy too. I like mine a little bit more dry. You like dry oatmeal? I like being a little soggy. You're like a soggy oatmeal guy too. I like mine a little bit more dry. You like dry oatmeal? I like drier than soggy. I don't like soup oatmeal, but I like there to be a consistency. Yeah, see, I can't do the soupy stuff. It's hard for me to do soupy stuff. Do you like soup and... What's your favorite soup? Like chicken noodle.

Starting point is 00:08:00 Soup is the original struggle meal. That's like soup kitchen. But I've never been to a soup kitchen. I'm not gonna lie. Chicken noodle only at Campbell's chicken noodle. What are we talking about? Really? Any of the Campbell's soups? They qualify right? I've only enjoyed chicken noodle. I only like that brothy like soup. I don't like I don't like the fucking you know, like clam chowder. Yeah. gloppy fucking thick shit. I'm out on that. The only type soup I could do is like a bisque. Yeah. I mean, this is the best we can do for you. I've heard of guys eating ketchup sandwiches and mayonnaise sandwiches and... Sugar sandwich. That was my dog Reggie's go-to when he was struggling. Sugar sandwich. Is that what I think it is? Yep. Yeah, it's exactly it.

Starting point is 00:08:45 Yep. That doesn't sound exciting one bit. I'm not gonna lie, I kind of fucked with it. I used to fucking... I mean, it's essentially what I used to do with a bagel and cinnamon sugar. Like, just throw that... Another one, bagels, another one. All right, so let's transition this to the most expensive thing you've ever eaten. There's a hundred dollar cheesesteak at this restaurant, Barclay Prime, downtown Philadelphia. You pulled the trigger on it?

Starting point is 00:09:11 Well, I mean, we've, we do it like a lot of O-line dinners there and stuff like that where you're kind of just like splurging as a group. Oh yeah. And I have had that. I don't think it's the fanciest or most expensive thing, but there's something about it being a cheesesteak being that ridiculously priced that is, and it's very good, but I guess I'll vote that. I don't know. What do you got? Nice. I got nothing. I don't know. I don't necessarily look at the most expensive thing and yeah, and fancy foods are kind of just like, I love getting fucking big obnoxious steaks. So if I see like a porterhouse, that's a 48 ounce.

Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm like, give me that medium. You cut it off the bone a little bit too. Most of the higher priced items are usually like meat that has some like type of alteration, like a, hey, you want this dry aged 52 ounce, like Tomahawk steak that's from Wagyu and it's like $300. And I'm like, no, I want the regular ribeye that tastes delicious without putting all that fungus on it. I don't need the fucking aging process. Give me the aging. No, give me the regular steak, not Wagyu. And give me the Wagyu. Give me the regular. I like a steak that tastes like a steak. I don't like a steak that tastes like it's been marinated in butter and then melts all over the regular. I like a steak that tastes like a steak. I don't like a steak that tastes

Starting point is 00:10:25 like it's been marinated in butter and then melts all over the place. It hasn't been marinated in butter. All right, whatever. The fancy stuff, nine times out of 10, tastes worse. Just being honest with you. Unless the one caveat to this, fancy pasta. You go to a nice Italian restaurant that's like upscale, those pastas that come out. They're making that fucking pasta in the back. My guy, Vetri, I don't know how the fuck he puts so much flavor into each one of these little pillows of gnocchi, but it is fucking crazy.

Starting point is 00:10:54 It's so good. I love it. So if I'm going fancy, I feel like fancy Italian is worth it. But fancy steakhouse, I've never been in on the fancy steakhouse. I'm just going to be honest. Dude, you got to go to Como. Other than 1587 Prime, can't wait for that fancy fancy steakhouse. I've never been in on the fancy steakhouse. I'm just gonna be honest dude 1787 prime can't wait for that fancy ass steakhouse. You already know baby opening up soon We're gonna fucking get that thing up and running and once it's up and running It's gonna be a machine

Starting point is 00:11:17 Serving Kansas City and all the cheese kingdom and whoever else wants to come and enjoy a meal that me and Pat are given to the city. All righty. That's it for no dumb questions brought to you by perplexity. Now let's get to our convo with the one, the only Trey Smith. The enforcer. Our guest today is six round draft pick from the University of Tennessee. He is a two-time first team all SEC selection,

Starting point is 00:11:48 2024 Pro Bowl, two time Super Bowl champion, winner of the 2024 Kelsey Jam Wing Eating Contest. Very, very nice. And the starting right guard for the Kansas City Chiefs. That's right, it's the enforcer, Mr. Trey Smith, baby! Woo! Yes sir, appreciate y'all having me on. Mr. Trey Smith, baby. Woo! Yes, sir. Appreciate y'all having me on, man. Trey, how you doing? How's the off season been treating you?

Starting point is 00:12:10 Man, it's solid, man. It's been a good off season. We get back down to Tennessee, spend some time with the family, see a lot of friends, travel a bit, and did all my training really in Texas, man. It's trying to get right. That's awesome. That's awesome. Let's get it, man. Where did the nickname enforcer... I know Travis calls you the enforcer. I'm pretty sure I've heard Baldinger call you in the for the enforcer. Is there a do you know who originated that or is that just just

Starting point is 00:12:31 turn on the film just watching this? Trust me. I've been preaching this for a while. Yeah man I gotta give credit to the tribe. Honestly, it was the first person I saw that we like used it in this podcast bro. But you know Baldy does an amazing job breaking down film all the time And you just always talk about my style of play. So I think you just sort of stuff from there. Yeah, absolutely I I've been saying this for years Travis knows this I've told you Easily, I mean if not my favorite one of my favorite offensive linemen to watch in the league The way you play at the way you finish It is just a joy to watch you play the game the right way. So couldn't be more excited to have you on this podcast and talk about that journey and everything. So thanks for coming on, brother.

Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, man. Precepts. I'll have me on that. Hell yeah, baby. You already know. And the thing is, as the enforcer, when you get a guy that is the enforcer on a team. I'm telling you, when he first got here, you could see the mentality of the offense start to get a little meaner, start to get a little bit more on the attack. And it's contagious, man. And Trey, I don't know what it was like at Tennessee because I wasn't there,

Starting point is 00:13:40 but something tells me that you were really the motor of that team as well, man. Because every time I feel like you go into a new building man all of a sudden that culture changes a little bit to get a little bit more serious and a little bit more about the Business man, and that's a hats off to your professionalism and just who you are and how you play this game dog Appreciate it dog, man. I just try to eat all stuff and I feel it's a tap mode, you know he tossed up on that field is attack mode. You know, top of the strength is attack mode, bro.

Starting point is 00:14:04 You see anything he moves, you hit it, you kill it, bro. Yeah. Let's go. So man, I got that early in high school, but yeah, man, it's, I really appreciate the words from both of y'all, man. Just understand how much I respect both of y'all. I really appreciate it, bro.

Starting point is 00:14:16 Hell yeah, man. I feel like it's not even just an enforcer in how hard you hit people and how aggressive and how you finish. There's also like a swagger and like a boistery. What does Andy say? What does Andy call bravado? Is Andy Green ever called it bravado?

Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah. There's like a, there's that part of it where I remember, I don't know if it was the Chiefs cut these clips up and hopefully Brandon can find it. There's a cutup of you going at it with Jeffrey Simmons. And it is just one of my all time favorite cutups of any offensive lineman. Cause he's a bad man.

Starting point is 00:14:46 That dude is angry. He plays angry. And you match every bit of it. You could tell it was starting to affect him. Like it was a joy to watch. It's one of my favorite games baby. Oh my gosh. It was a physical one man.

Starting point is 00:14:59 Tennessee is always a banger. You know you see it after the runs when you're picking up a checko or whoever just got like a big carry. You're, you see it after the runs. When you're picking up a checko or whoever just got like a big carry, you're pointing to the first down. Yeah, there's a level of excitement and tenacity that rubs off on those around you. And that's that's the enforcer. It's not it's that plus the physical nature of how you play the game.

Starting point is 00:15:19 You got it. You know, he said that over the dead. That's a good one, too. That's a good one, too And I think there's another clip first of all great job great job of laying the blitzer Getting flat to put yourself in a good position on the player in open space. If you go downfield right away, you're gonna be way out front. This guy's gonna cut you you go flat. And then man leaving your feet. I mean, this

Starting point is 00:15:54 is like a you can't even do this on defense anymore. Leave your feet as a defender. That's a that's a personal file. You can still do it as a guard. Yeah. Blaze, bro. Yeah. Coach Jack, that's electric man. That's one of my favorite plays bro. Oh yeah. Coach Heck did a great job that we prepping us in. Creed and I identified and we saw it before it came up and we were just like, hey, it's coming up, let's get it.

Starting point is 00:16:13 Let's get it. So as he blessed it, I'm like, oh, let's get him over. And I saw him just a seven, so I plant his feet. I'm just sitting there like, coming from top down. Why are you sitting still? Yeah. Boom, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah. He's like trying to only away you go underneath like he stood still like he was gonna take it on. So I was like, thank you. Man, I was fired. Bro, I can only imagine as a defender. It's like once you get

Starting point is 00:16:33 into striking range, you're just like, oh, I can't go anywhere. Where and there's this point as an offensive lineman where you know where the ball's hitting and you know where the defender is and you know know the defender has no choice but to come back to where you're at. And you identify that's not just in that clip.

Starting point is 00:16:51 I've seen you, I forget what it might've been a Chargers game from back. There's another clip where you get out on a, it was either a screen or some type of like gadget play. And it's again, you're like leaving your feet and in order to do that, you got to know, you know what I mean, it's like, this dude is throwing everything he can to this guy and blowing them up. Yeah, for for for what 320 for 350. What are you weighing it right now? 320.

Starting point is 00:17:20 For 300 plus to be leaving their feet like that and putting all force, man, that is athletic son of a gun, man. No doubt. I don't know how much athleticism you can teach in your football camp, but you can teach that mentality, baby. Absolutely. You're hosting your second annual Trey Smith football camp

Starting point is 00:17:39 later this month. How excited are you for it? Yeah, it's gonna be my second football camp in my hometown, Jackson, Tennessee. Man, just fired up for it, bro. I think giving back to Jackson, the community that poured so much into me, it was about time to do something for him

Starting point is 00:17:54 and I was big for the city. So, our first year, we learned a lot with the young kids. It's hard to manage our kids. We have like, a bunch of friends. For sure. Right around, so we wanna make sure ages like second grade and up, they just have a good, fun time, have, yeah, for sure. Right around. So we want to make sure ages like second grade and up, they just have a good fun time. Have the love of the game. Then for our middle school and high school camp, we'll turn it up a notch. We're trying to get them ready for the next season.

Starting point is 00:18:13 So really looking forward to it, bro. Get it back on. It is funny when you go to one of these camps and for us, we are so used to going about the position a certain way in the game a certain way. And you try like teaching that to like a young kid who's like six years old. And they're like, I just want to run over these bags. Through his face. You're like, no, get in your stance like this and use your hands like this. And you're like, okay, this is all pointless. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:37 Just run over these bags and then stop. The last camp I, uh, I did, I thought it was a brilliant idea to try and have a water balloon fight at the end of the camp. Sounds great. Until you realize that it's not like two teams fighting against each other. We just had a bunch of coolers filled with water balloons. Just a battle royale. And everyone picked up the water balloon and then looked directly towards me.

Starting point is 00:19:03 It just started. Nice. the water balloon and then looked directly towards me. It just started. So I had over like 100 to 200 kids just chasing me around. And eventually I just gave in and just got smoked by everyone. That's some good off season conditioning. Yeah, it was. No, instead of running striders,

Starting point is 00:19:19 just give a bunch of kids water balloons and try and avoid them. Yeah, my buddy last year, he set me up. He had all the kids come and tap them. So I like 200. I'm just trying to fall so I don't crush a little Timmy's leg. Just don't fall on one of these kids. Cause they're 320 wink, wink. That's, that's a lot coming down. So this isn't just offensive linemen. This is all across like just football in general. You have multiple coaches there helping out with it. What's and it's all ages. Yeah, it'll be all ages across the board pretty much from second grade all up to senior high school. And we'll have coaches vary from a lot of former volunteer guys, some guys I went to high school with even NFL players as well. with even NFL players as well. Coaches that I've just sort of found along my way in my journey too. So I have a large support and crew and coaching staff coming out to help us out. So it'll be awesome.

Starting point is 00:20:10 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's right. Take care, man. Did you attend any football camps growing up? Oh, dude, I went to a ton. A ton of them, man. That was like, that was a big part of me becoming a good player. I feel like, like I would always go, I hate to say it, but like I would always go to University of Alabama's football camp with Nick Saban. Big, I say it, but like, I don't always go to university, Alabama school ball cap when it's saving big fan growing up. So like, we would drive down to Sustaloosa, do the cap every year. And eventually my, my high school closure is like, Hey, you guys realize there's more schools to just Alabama, right?

Starting point is 00:20:36 So it's hard to go to Ole Miss, Tennessee, Arkansas, Christ to touch your bro. So that was huge from right about the heck. Yeah. Yeah. Was it always Bama versus Tennessee? Was it in terms of going to college? Or how'd the recruiting process, how'd you end up back at Tennessee

Starting point is 00:20:50 if Bama was always a dream? Yeah, so I did not like Tennessee. You were the number one recruit coming out of high school, right? Yeah, yeah, number one. I was about to say. I guess, yeah, five star, all that. So I got my first offer from Ole Miss,

Starting point is 00:21:03 I think when I was 14, from U-Freeze, and that just sort of like domino effect. I got offers first offer from Ole Miss, I think when I was 14 from U-Freeze and that just sort of like domino effect, I got offers from across the country. But for me, I always grew up a Bama fan because my kindergarten teacher at the time or so was an equipment manager for them. So I went to the locker room, game day, like first time I'd been to an SC football game

Starting point is 00:21:18 or a college football game. State of the art facilities, you're just like, I was like, whoa, favorite colors,, I love elephants, I'm like damn, this is a match made in heaven. Yeah, yeah. You know, all of a sudden you're like, bro, Bama's become one of the top schools, the same as all these championships and stuff.

Starting point is 00:21:34 Then obviously I started getting recruited and I started looking around a little bit. And ultimately, bro, it ended up being between like Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Tennessee. And then the night of my decision, it was really Ohio State and Tennessee. And then I flipped to Tennessee the middle of the night. So I was like, you know what? Tennessee makes more sense long term.

Starting point is 00:21:52 It's my home. I want to live there one day. I think it was the best decision I ever made in my life, going to Tennessee. I'll tell you what, man, going back to going back to Tennessee after we got smoked when I was in college, playing Tennessee, Tyler Bray and Cornel Patterson got after us a little bit. See Flash feet. But going back when Butch Jones was there and and just being around because Eric Berry had a football camp up there and I was up there

Starting point is 00:22:15 trying to help him out and at least, you know, show my face. But obviously got some family around the Knoxville area. It was so wild to see that town. The entire city is orange. Yes, sir. Like every like everything in sight is orange and it kind of gives a little bit of Ohio State, but Ohio State is surrounded by like Columbus and an actual big city. No, Knoxville is everything is balls all over the place.

Starting point is 00:22:45 And I was just so, I was like, man, I just, I appreciated it from a completely different perspective going back once I was already through college and everything that had to be a fucking hell of a goddamn time when you were there. Bro, unbelievable. I wish we were better at football. We got some, some seasons that weren't so great,

Starting point is 00:23:03 but like, bro, I'm talking about the love you feel on campus from like day one is unbelievable. You know, there's there's such things as fandom, there's a lifestyle. People in Oxford, Tennessee, it's a volunteer lifestyle, man, they really bleed orange. I can go back on campus, like, I told my family, like, we go back to football games, usually on the bye week, right? Yeah, I start getting swarmed by people and people and it got so bad that like they gave me a golf cart ride around on game day But like the love I mean last time I played a separate since you're going on over half a decade ago

Starting point is 00:23:34 And people still know my name. I might go in a restaurant people talk to you It just shows how great all nation is you're a great player. You treat the city, right man They'll show love continuously, bro So like I said, man, there's a Deris-Way fandom in our lifestyle, man. They live that life down there in Tennessee. Hell yeah, baby. Hell yeah, hell yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:51 What did you carry a sledgehammer around campus for? What was the signature behind that? What was that deal? Yo, that's crazy. So it was my freshman year. Yeah, we played Georgia Tech season opener in Atlanta, I guess in Mercedes-Benz. I was like the second football player I ever played there. in Mercedes-Benz. I was like second football never played there

Starting point is 00:24:06 And I had a block it was like a track place. So this is one of our shutter place trial and I did and then Coach Jones, I guess you have the sledgehammer like did could be a tackle that whatever it is So like we have my got it my first game at Tennessee I don't know why I'm I'm watching a movie or something, but here I am carrying this sledgehammer like on my back. Walking in class. As a freshman bro, like first meeting class,

Starting point is 00:24:35 I just got a hammer in the classroom, so it was crazy. That was one of the cooler things Butch Jones did with the sledgehammer paying homage to the blockers. That's amazing, that's a great way to represent it. Look at that. Check him out. That's great. That's iconic going just going to class. You see all that you college athletes going to class, but

Starting point is 00:25:00 he's there for work. He's got his lunch pail in his sledgehammer with them. He's ready to go. All right. Going into your fifth season with the Chiefs. All right, we got 2025 Chiefs coming up. Yes, sir. Come on.

Starting point is 00:25:13 Anything different going into this season for you guys up front or for a team, as a team? I would say up front, you know, just have a couple of new pieces coming in. And you know, some guys are definitely excited about, excited to work with. And you know, I think our mission and try to agree with this man like it's gonna stay the same man we want another lombardi one another trophy man uh we know we came up a little bit short last year

Starting point is 00:25:32 man we're just motivated you know I'm saying that feeling we have at least I know it's been driving me but I want to get back there I want to win it again man yeah we'll be absolutely fine but a couple new faces are bringing the fold for offensive line but uh coach heck and coach pate they do a great job making sure we're well coached up and prepared so like I said I'm just but a couple new faces are bringing it to the fold for opposite mind, but Coach Heck and Coach Matei, they do a great job making sure we're well coached up and prepared, so I guess I'm just looking forward to it, man. Like, hey, set the ball down, let's play. Let's go.

Starting point is 00:25:52 Let's play, man. Let's go. You're firing me up right now, man. Come on, Trev. Let's get it. God, I do gotta say this though. You mentioned a few new faces, man. Our guy, Big Tooney, man.

Starting point is 00:26:02 Joe isn't, he's not in the building anymore, but you gotta show some love, man. He was there when you came in. Yeah. Right. Like he doesn't Casey when you came in. I can't, I couldn't remember when exactly Joe came in and everything, but it was when Orlando came in too at the same time. So it was like all four of us.

Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah, that's crazy. As it, as, as a young, like offensive lineman in the league and your mentality and a guy like that who has been proven one Super Bowls and and you know, been been a pro bowler to me. What was he in terms of your development and how he helped you out early on in your career? Yeah, I always start this while talking about Joe from around now, but I think Joseph would be a future Hall of Famer. Oh Oh yeah. And just for me, man, as a young cat, stepping into the league, you know, wide eye freaked out, like in terms of reassurance and your abilities, you know,

Starting point is 00:26:54 helping you out, thinking Joe's brain for different things, like Joe and I play the game way differently. Like Joe is too technical. He's certainly cool. Like he's not the biggest guy, but he knows how to manipulate people's body. Like he's, he's nice with weight bro, on a different level. I didn't even know it was possible. And for me, man, just having to lean on him, especially when I was younger.

Starting point is 00:27:14 Hey Joe, what would you do in this situation? How would you attack this? How would you sort of set this block up? And having that resource there was invaluable. And just having a genuine friend too, a guy you can depend on, a brother like, man, it's priceless, bro. So for me, I have a ton of gratitude

Starting point is 00:27:31 being able to work with Joe, having Joe, some guys like me and Creed, me and work co-hosting as an interior unit as well. I mean, I was special, bro. Like, heart breaking. Joe's not coming back. You know, but he's gonna follow Chicago. He knows, you know, if you already know. He's got a ball in Chicago. He knows I love him, wishing nothing but success,

Starting point is 00:27:47 but man, having him around at the mentoring spot to just help me, help teach me the game and teach me the nuances, man, that was incredible. Oh yeah. Look, that interior three was my favorite to watch over the last four years, man. Between you, Creed, and Joe, and all three of you being different players

Starting point is 00:28:04 and like having similarities, but then also, and all three of you being different players and like having similarities but then also, and Andy's a great coach and he finds ways to utilize everything and maximize it. I love watching the way you guys work inside. It was heroic what Joe tried to do this year by sliding out to tackle. I mean, I don't know many guards that can even give that a go in the NFL. That is a completely different position. So hats off to him. Very unselfish move to do that for the team.

Starting point is 00:28:30 But with him gone, you're sliding in last year's rookie, Sue Amatia. Am I saying that right? Is that? Kingsley, Kingsley. Kingsley sliding in to guard. And then who do we got to tackle now? Mike Caliendo.

Starting point is 00:28:43 Is he Caliendo still there? Perfect. Yep. So there'll be some open competition, some back and forth a little bit for figuring out who's going in there with you guys. Yeah, there definitely will be. And I mean, hell, man, we all been part of the league,

Starting point is 00:28:55 like it's competition for this all. So we all gotta go. Always, always. No doubt. You're right, 100%. I know both of them will work their tails off and the best man's gonna win. Like I have to earn my job against them as well. But I'm excited about both of them. work their tails off, you know, the best man's gonna win. I have to earn my job against them as well.

Starting point is 00:29:06 But you know, I'm excited about both of them. I love Mike, man. Mike's a great dude. Mike's extremely intelligent as well and a great ballplayer. And then Kingsley, just a young cat, you know, he's got those young legs, a healthy body a little bit. Man, you know, his ability is incredible in some of the things that he can do on the field as well.

Starting point is 00:29:22 So like I said, the movie pieces are awesome. Great. We're gonna be in a good position though, man. Oh, yeah. The one I'm looking forward to, I just gotta be honest, that left tackle position was something that was somewhat of a revolving door all season long for you last year. Have you seen this this kid yet? Josh? Like I just to me watching the tape in college, it was absurd. Like the athletic ability and size.

Starting point is 00:29:45 Trav knows because I've been watching this. Yeah, I've been preaching it. I've played my eyes on him, you already know. I've seen it, I've seen it. He was playing defensive end as just like a scout team defensive end. And he was just playing this gap, but he was being a pro.

Starting point is 00:30:01 He was being locked in and being a pro. And I felt that man's And I was like, all right, all right I gotta come with it even when he's just giving the looks I gotta make sure I'm got my feet planted man I've watched a lot of these linemen coming out the last few years. This kid, I mean, he is the closest thing I've seen to like a Trent Williams or like adjacent like that next level like strength and athleticism. Yeah. The only reason he fell to you guys is because of that quad is it quad tenor patellar tendon injury? Yeah. What do you look like so far? Yeah, man, I haven't seen him in action But I mean I just heard that he is so strong like

Starting point is 00:30:46 Unbelievably strong as one thing so I tried you saying about his hands like that's perfect spot I'm watching here, but oh, yeah, obviously like the talent is there man I see some of his film as well And you know obviously got chance to win a 90 last year shout out to him But yeah, I think he's gonna be a great asset to the team and I'm looking forward to it, bro Oh, yeah, baby get him in there get him nice and ingrained in the culture. We got over there man Have some fun while we uh, well we go and whips him ass. Yeah, you know, we'll get him, right? Would you rather play in Tampa Bay, Miami?

Starting point is 00:31:16 He early season never or like Green Bay in the middle of the playoffs like would you rather play in cold weather or hot weather? I guess I'll play a fridge of temperatures negative green weather in the middle of the playoffs. Like would you rather play in cold weather or hot weather? I'll play in a frigid temperatures, negative degree weather. I love it. All day. All day.

Starting point is 00:31:30 I love it. I love it. I love the best. Once he gets below 50. What was that one game in KC where- Oh, against Miami? Was that the one where I was like watching the field and it was like frozen in certain parts of the-

Starting point is 00:31:44 Coach Reed had icicles coming from his mustache. Yeah. Yeah, it was like watching the field and it was like frozen. Coach Reed had icicles coming from his mustache. Yeah, yeah it was like fourth coldest game in NFL history man. Yes. How did you feel you'd rather play in that than Miami 95? Yeah all day long man, all day long. Because one, in the heat and humidity like you're gonna tire out a little bit easier man everything is a little bit tougher. It's a different mental space right right we're in the cold as a big guy like i said i'm always sweating yeah always it's already there like i'll be nice and cool i can recover faster you know the winter coat jason you know you get a little bit heavier at the end of the year so oh yeah baby i'm good man i solid. How do those trap blocks feel, though, when it's negative four?

Starting point is 00:32:26 You know, you felt it. Oh, you felt it. Well, now, you think about it as great is like that he was alive and don't necessarily want to rush last year as well, too. For sure. Because you're talking about a team that came from Miami. They just left 80 degree weather. Now it's negative 11 degrees. You're like, what the hell's going on? Where do they drop us off at?

Starting point is 00:32:44 You know, so it makes our job easier. It is a little different, you know, being in 15 to 20 degree weather for a couple weeks, for a couple, for like a month, staying in between that, that 20 to 40 degree weather in Kansas city when it's in the winter and then it dropping down. Yeah. I feel like the initial, the first day in it is always the coldest, like, you know what I mean? Like if you're kind of acclimated to some of the cold,

Starting point is 00:33:12 like that first day it drops below 50 in Kansas City. I'm like, oh, even I'm like, God damn, it's got a cold outside. You know what I mean? But then once I get used to it, I'm outside in shorts and a t-shirt. But it's coming from, coming from Miami and it being 75 to playing in negative five degrees. It's hell.

Starting point is 00:33:31 I was probably like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, that's tough, bro. That's tough. What is that? Was that the coldest game you ever played in? By far. Because like the coldest weather I would ever play out of Tennessee would be like Kentucky or Missouri. So that was the coldest it got and it'd probably be around like December and

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Starting point is 00:37:02 Okay perfect check out the link below to stock up on our favorite zero sugar energy drink accelerator. Let's get into some draft stories, man. Drafted by the Chief 6 overall. I mean, six rounds. Six rounds. Definitely not six overall. But definitely worthy of six overall. Can you talk to everybody on the reason why you kind of slid into draft

Starting point is 00:37:25 and what draft day was like for you? Yeah, man. So those of y'all don't know, right after my freshman year entering my sophomore season, in that off season we had a coaching change, entire coaches sat at this fire, and Watson and Jerry Pruitt from University of Alabama. In that whole off season they're just trying to break us.

Starting point is 00:37:43 And as you guys know, if you get a new coaching staff they're trying to weed out the bad guys, figure out what teams will be built around so that identify culture, man. Yeah, yeah. We're going to set the culture up around. They looked at me. I lost success in my first year as a freshman. They're like, are we can build around this young player? So they just started pushing us every single day during mad drills.

Starting point is 00:38:00 I was eating it, bro. It was nothing to me. I'm laughing at him. Tommy said, I feel like this is all your guy your guy in like one week, man, in condition, or do I have gashes and I passed out and I never passed out. I couldn't breathe well. I lost 13 pounds of the day. I remember talking to our team doctor like, hey, you guys got to run more tests on me. Like, I feel terrible. And he's like, we're going to do a blood draw.

Starting point is 00:38:21 Just go ahead and go to class. I remember leaving my dorm room, having to walk like 400 yards to the library to write a paper and having to stop like seven times just to catch my breath. And as soon as I got out, doctors calling me frantic, like, hey, Trey, where are you at? Where are you at? I'm like, I just got finished with my paper, is everything okay?

Starting point is 00:38:38 He's like, don't worry about it. We're sending someone over the car that can scoop you up. They rushed me to the hospital and figured out that I have blood clots in both sides of my lungs. So that was sort of one of those moments where it's like, man, can I still play football? Like, what does this mean? And pretty much working with the doctors

Starting point is 00:38:54 was like for five months, you're ready to go on blood thinners. And the thing is blood thinners is you take a shot to the head or if you get cut, you run the risk of internal bleeding or just bleeding out in general. So it's generally dangerous for a contact sport, which was tough. What they end up doing is blood, blood thinners for about five to six months.

Starting point is 00:39:10 Was able to play in my sophomore year. Got about the halfway point of my season. Had the same sort of things going. Can't breathe well, coughing, mucus, et cetera. And they rushed me to the hospital again just to be safe. They're like, hey, you have blood clots again. And at that point, my career was completely over in my mind. The doctors had told me, if you have blood clots two times,

Starting point is 00:39:30 you'll never play football again. It's not safe. We won't allow it. And through the grace of God, I had some people in my corner at University of Tennessee that just blew me across the country. And we went to the Cleveland Clinic, where I met with some doctors.

Starting point is 00:39:43 I looked at my scans, looked at all of our tests. It there's just like you don't have blood clots again man it looks like you have residual scar tissue in your lungs from the first case so that was like breaking right yeah so that's how close it was like I didn't I almost didn't take that trip so I was pretty much done I was like I'll get the coaching player engagement but when I got that news it sort of opened everything up to where I ended up going to the blood clotting specialist in North Carolina, where he created a health plan that never done this word football before, where I took blood thinner every single day of the week, except for Friday morning. And I would just wake up and play on Saturdays.

Starting point is 00:40:16 So that means no practice, no contact, no training camp. I would literally just be vibing out, doing cardio, watching film, as much as I can. We'd just go playing on Saturdays. So it was a crazy experience. But my junior year, I was able to play the entire season, decided to stay at Tennessee because I made a promise to my deceased mom,

Starting point is 00:40:37 where I said to Smith that I would get my degree and I'd play in the NFL one day. So I kept my promise to mom, saved my senior season and finished it out and then the draft is here. I'm like, hell yeah. Let's get paid. Yes. What a roller coaster that had to be, bro.

Starting point is 00:40:54 That is wild. So is there like a condition that causes your blood to clot in certain ways or is this just like a unfortunate, like unlucky one-off thing? Yeah, so you got either provoked or unprovoked blood clots mine was unprovoked. They tried looking all parts of my body to figure out like where it's originated a lot of times you have a surgery you get hit a certain way etc like yeah nothing happened to me that would cost it and

Starting point is 00:41:19 genetic testing didn't show up anything definitively as well. Wow. Man. Yeah, man. Cause I remember hearing about this when you were coming out, like even in the Eagles building, I remember guys talking about, like he's got this thing with like, I thought it was your heart. I didn't know it was blood clots. I knew there was something going on,

Starting point is 00:41:34 but I remember that was something that all the teams were thinking about. How, if you didn't have that, where do you think you would have been drafted? Oh, six overall. Hey! six overall. I like the thing first round, but second round, third,

Starting point is 00:41:52 probably worst case scenario. That is wild. And now no issues. Like you haven't had anything in the NFL. Nothing at all, brother. You know, gosh, that is amazing. Yeah, that is outstanding.

Starting point is 00:42:04 Back to draft day though, so still you went back, had your junior year at Tennessee. Where were you on draft day and who was it that gave you the call? Yeah, man, so I was in Jackson and I talked about agents and they're pretty much saying, we don't think you'll be a first round with the medical history, but you're gonna go second round and like're pretty much say, you know, we don't think you'll be a first round with the medical history,

Starting point is 00:42:25 but you're going to go second round and like third round is like worst case scenario. We'll get drafted. So day one, pretty good amount of families there. I'm like, I appreciate y'all. I'm playing the game tonight. I'm not. So I played a rocket league. The car. That game is a rocket league with the boys.

Starting point is 00:42:43 I don't want to sidestep it, but this is what I love about Rocket League. It's only like four buttons. I can't do all these games with all these buttons now. Just give me like two buttons to screw around and try and score a goal. All right, go ahead, sir. Yeah, man, no, you're right. So I'm on Rocket League with the homies, man.

Starting point is 00:42:56 We're chilling, just doing our thing. And pretty much first round goal was, all right, cool. Day two, I'm sitting in the veteran like, all right, this is the day I'm about to get drafted. And, you know, I was like, I'll pay attention to it. And this year was COVID year. So they had like a little, if you're considered a top guy, they sent you a whole camera equipment and like thing for your house. So I had my set of my living room. I'm sitting on the couch with my family and pig after pig after pig after pig. Second round goes, third round was like, okay, I'm gonna go back to the locker league.

Starting point is 00:43:26 I'm just gonna play again, I'm just gonna take my mind off of it. And that third round came and it went. And I remember just being like, damn, what happened? And being a little upset and talking to my dad and he just sort of reassures me, he calls me down a little bit.

Starting point is 00:43:41 So day three goes, I wake up a little bit late, no phone call or anything. Uh, I get a call from a former head coach that I knew from recruiting. And he's pretty much saying, Hey, uh, I can't believe you're here, man. I remember you in high school, you were number one, blah, blah. It's like, Hey, we're going to take you to this next draft pick. It's like in the fifth. Well, so I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna watch this one.

Starting point is 00:44:00 I'm about to get picked and he picked somebody else and he calls me right back. But the minute after is just like hey Sorry, I had to do this political blah blah Look, we're gonna do is we're gonna fly you in as undrafted free agent. We'll get a side We'll get you side. We'll get all this up taking care of you and pops I don't worry about it. And so I'm not I'm not really I'm not this I'm just like hey man Like it didn't go well thought I say it another year for this and you know all this stuff I went through like I thought I was gonna get drafted. But yeah, you know all the stuff I went through like I was gonna get drafted

Starting point is 00:44:25 But yeah, I got an opportunity. I didn't want an opportunity man. You just give me a shot man You mean give me a foot in the door basically so it was funny enough like five minutes later I was on the game again We should really be thanking all the coaches because you got to play more rocket league like We should really be thanking all the coaches because you got to play more rock and league like So basically barely five minutes later, I get a call the ID says Kansas City actually, you know It's a doctor on the phone. I believe it was document I'm not believe it was and he had interviewed me prior about the medical info if doctors on phone just like hey like, hey man, I told you I'd call you like all happy. I was like, the hell do you want?

Starting point is 00:45:08 In my mind, right? Yeah, like what's this about? And I'm like another, so I just answered, it's like, yo, what up? He's just like, oh, well, we're gonna make you a nose member of the Kansas City Chiefs. And I was just like, what's this dude talking about?

Starting point is 00:45:22 And so then when Mr. Hunt answered the phone, it's like, hey, Tray, this is Clark Hunt. How are you doing? And I'm like, oh, this is real. I was like, oh, let me tie this up. You guys must be with the team, Doc. Yeah, right? Well, I can't wait to be down there.

Starting point is 00:45:36 And then, you know, Brent Beach, Coach Reed, Andy Hack, you know, talked to all of them. And then it was just like, whoa, whoa, I just got drafted, man. And my sister was in the living room. She's all left in the house. So I'm running hugging her in the living room. We're both freaking out together like crying. And then I call my dad, I'm like, Dad, you won't believe this

Starting point is 00:45:54 Kansas City just drafted is like, so I love you. I'm so proud of you. And I'll be home in 10 minutes. I'll bring you chicken tenders for lunch. That's a hell of a celebration. Yeah, so I draw story was a perfect profession. I love it, man. Like I have so much gratitude the way it went down, man. To help mold me to who I am today. Yeah. Shout out to Ashley for being in the room still there with I was about to say a lot people don't know this. Ashley, welcome me to the to broadcasting in the NFL. I met your sis out

Starting point is 00:46:22 there. She was awesome at the broadcast bootcamp., I mean just eat some chicken terms go back to playing rocket league, right? You just got to the end of I remember because we had that was I mean you look back on it. That was a great draft for us I mean, obviously we got big Creed who you learned to you know Create the beast with in the interior with and everything But that was a hell of a draft. And I remember everyone kept mentioning, hey, man, we got to steal. We got to steal.

Starting point is 00:46:50 They got to get the guy we, I don't know how he dropped the six. I don't know how he dropped, but we got him. And everyone's saying he's, I mean, the docs are giving them the thumbs up. Everybody's saying, and bro, when you walked into building and I saw how big of a human being you are, bro, I was like, what?

Starting point is 00:47:07 This is it. No way. Little did I know how much you would grow as a player your first year and just be the enforcer that you are. But man, when I heard everybody talking about we got to steal, we got to steal and Veatch was over here like, I think we got a guy, I think we got a guy. He was just over there getting beat, bread and having a blast talking about, exactly.

Starting point is 00:47:30 Everybody was fighting. Our plan worked, our plan worked. And we found a way to get you in the building, man. That shit was fun. Yeah, no, I was fired up, man. What was your first impression of big Andy Reed, man? Oh dude, it was, so I played the mad, it was a mad in those six, where like he's in the front

Starting point is 00:47:44 and then I was like, it's like that. What? What? I'm talking about as a kid. That was the very first madden game I ever had. What? First football game ever. That's crazy. Huge like into the game.

Starting point is 00:47:57 Super Bowl situation, whatever it is, like coach reason, sideline, like stop reading this call sheet like so I was my first taste in Andrew in my life. So get into the cheese and remember, you know, it's Colby once again So they're in a sort of different setup. We were in the end or facility it he was on I guess soon Microsoft teams Whatever you is that he's just breaking out of play and was like damn Read bro, it's really a like talking to him You know coach read has like a way of making you comfortable like messing with you, bro

Starting point is 00:48:25 It it was dope dude. Like I was sitting there in disbelief really like man I'm really I'm here cuz like part of it is I watched you guys when Super Bowl Miami I was with Dustin Cole Quinn his buddies in Miami Yeah through the University of Tennessee they sent me down down there. So I worked there, man. Was like ushering people around. Cole Coy and his buddies like found me. They're like, ah, come with us. So, hey.

Starting point is 00:48:52 Hey. It's so awesome, man. So I watched together. Yeah, so I watched together. So like for me, it was surreal where it's like, what, 2019, I'm watching y'all win it. And then in 2021, here I am, walked through the doors. I remember being at that game

Starting point is 00:49:05 saying, man, how cool would it be to go play for them one day? And that's like the funny thing, I don't got work, like here I am, so you just leave. Absolutely. That is awesome, man. What were your first impressions of Trav like? Oh shit. Everybody remembers the first time they meet Trav.

Starting point is 00:49:20 That's a hard one to forget usually. Just crazy energy, bro. That's a that's a that's a hard one to forget usually. Just crazy energy, bro. I was like, Oh, he's all I love this guy. I'm like this is tough. But like bra was like, what? It was like early money against the brows rolling my first day, you scored a touchdown. I like tap with you might slap in your helmet in the end zone because you're just psycho Bro, I remember that

Starting point is 00:49:49 You know, I mean I love it so anytime traps get the guys going I'm just saying They're all this so yeah For me my dog trap I mean, I think the one thing that I can speak about, especially as like a six-year-old Trappic young guy, was just how kind you were, bro. And you don't have to be that way. And how you really care for people, you're not afraid to give out your heart, right? So I think that's the part that stood out to me where it's like, man, you look at your

Starting point is 00:50:18 career as a checker, you're on, you are as a human being, but like, you still make the time for people. You still care for people to me that that's what he's following to the person and that to me that was really the big thing like man you never you never mistreated me or just sort of wrote me off or anything it was always just like I'm three years back I appreciate it it means the most coming for me brother so yeah the best thing yet to come though baby let's go all right let's talk Patty Mahomes let's go into that. Yeah bro. Yeah let's talk some Patty Mahomes man what is what is it like blocking for old

Starting point is 00:50:50 Patrick Lavon Mahomes the second. Man it was a tough transition out of college boy like I wasn't used to somewhat extending the plays like that, making some on nothing. Like for me, I struggled so much with just sustaining the block, man. Fo' check you said, get on me every day about not letting the egg timer in your head go off. Like he's one of the best they send to plays ever do it.

Starting point is 00:51:17 Like you have to just try to drive. So for me, man, it was difficult at the beginning, but then like, I think the best part about it is just watching this greatness. And it's not like the big moments per se, it's like little stuff he does in practice, like how the hell he throw that ball? How do you throw that?

Starting point is 00:51:33 And per se, what play was it where he did it around the bat to you? He did it behind you? Yeah. Yeah, like that's the greatness where it's like, who the hell is gonna be able to do this other than him? He made me look so good on that play, knowing damn well that I was the one that fucked up the play

Starting point is 00:51:50 to where he had to do something spectacular to make it look good. And yeah, no, you already know. Yeah, that's one of a kind in that regard, man. It's, do you just, in your mind, do you have this like, I don't know. I feel like I have like a timing mechanism of like the first play, like, all right,

Starting point is 00:52:09 the ball should be out by now. It's almost like, all right, there could be two forms of this play. So it's like the initial play and then, all right, I got to, as soon as those like three to four seconds are up, now I need to read focus Regear do something else do it like it Do you have the like secondary like play like the the possibilities of a hat is it always in your mind during like pass plays?

Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah, I definitely think so it depends a lot of times I play action games such as all like that Gap schemes like pass rating like that like for me. it's just like, I know I'm gonna have a double team, I'm looking to help. A lot of times with Pat, man, he's just gonna keep extending and extending and extending. And a lot of times, if you really just hold on, bro, he's gonna make something huge happen. So for me, I agree with what you're saying,

Starting point is 00:52:56 where it's like on paper, it might be like, it should be doom, boom, but then sometimes it might be, do, do, do, do, do, just touchdown, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's the greatness, that's my own magic. So, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, you know what I mean? That's the greatness, that's all this magic. So like, you just gotta adjust with it, bro. You just gotta adjust. And Pat's even more, like,

Starting point is 00:53:12 there's all sorts of quarterbacks that are mobile that'll extend plays. Pat does it up the middle more than any quarterback I've ever seen. Like most quarterbacks will either go if they're right-handed to the right, if they're left-handed, they'll have a tendency to go to the left.

Starting point is 00:53:24 Pat'll see like a split front, like a two, three technique front. And if it's third and medium, he almost is like predetermined in his head that he's going to take off and go get the first down right up the gut. I've seen him do it multiple times. Yeah. Are you at the point now where you kind of anticipate stuff like that? Or is it still like, who knows what's about to happen? I think I'm still in that point sometimes where it's hard to

Starting point is 00:53:46 feel it. I think like during the season, especially when he gets to this tendency box a little bit, I'm okay. I know last week he did this way, I got a whole little bit stronger to the inside because like I know he's gonna be right here. If so, so happens, you know, if he gets flushed a certain way, based on there's the rush games too. Sometimes we know that they're trying to flush in a certain direction. So I gotta be a little bit firmer. For sure.

Starting point is 00:54:07 I would say it's just adapting to him, but I think the main thing is always knowing that Ash is gonna do something crazy back there. You know what I mean? You just gotta figure it out on the fly, bro. But I will say last year, I really tried to adjust it a little bit more, get a little bit stronger on the inside.

Starting point is 00:54:21 That's cool. And I feel like sometimes it's even just a feel. You don't know why you let go at a specific time. Yeah. As an offense lineman, my biggest concern is getting a holding call. You're blocking a dude, you got a great block on and all of a sudden the quarterback scoots out, he reaches though, grab them. And you're you think you're doing your job great. And all of a sudden there's a yellow flag by your feet. Yeah, worse

Starting point is 00:54:40 foot. But then you play with guys like that for a while. And then you like almost like field the D lineman doing that and you like learn to kind of just like let go. Not that it works every time like that but it's it's a feel for it for sure. I don't know. That's an art bro it's tough like you said there there is like a little feel to that. I love New Oz to it where you just you know it's not. Has Pat ever made a play to where you got so excited, you wanted to like fucking just like trap block and just like, just got you so excited or like you wanted to just fuck, like you remember the replacements,

Starting point is 00:55:12 how the linebacker would always do just like too much. He would always like want to headbutt the fuck out of somebody. Has Pat ever made you like go into that excitement and just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a couple of plays that my one thing growing was you like go into that excitement and just like, yeah. I got a couple of plays in my one of them, bro, was we played Tampa Bay in Tampa, we spun off the body dead and white for that

Starting point is 00:55:34 tuck, bro. Yeah. Like tiptoeing on the sideline and then just threw it the Clyde in the back. Like tiptoeing on the sideline and they just threw it the client That's our here bro, that was one yeah looking flip past I've been like you're two or something I guess Denver always say it was a jet or something jet might take it for it to the house But it was like just a little flick like I remember Wiley why we used to get J Wiley though. Cause JT gets fired up too. I know that.

Starting point is 00:56:05 Jawan is like the most chill cat I've ever met in my life. Until once we get rolling, oh yeah, he's the next one. Yeah. Wiley, there were a couple of times I'm like, we score or anything like that. I'm like, Pat, this one. Wiley would just attack me. It just beat the hell out of me on the side.

Starting point is 00:56:22 Let's go Wiley. He was a couple of people. Yeah, there've been a couple of times where times I'm like Pat and you're that dude like you're that but it's hard to grab it cuz he takes off your soul bring up it's like oh it's great some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking with all state first like you know to check if you're you know have cash in your pocket first before you're rushing out to catch the ice cream truck. Mmm.

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Starting point is 00:59:58 You had WrestleMania last year in Philly. When Jason got in the ring. Oh really? Yeah. Did you? You were at? Yup. Did you? You were at? Okay.

Starting point is 01:00:07 With the Jason coming out and the Tims and the, and the Jeans. The Luchador? The Luchador, yeah, the Rey Mysterio. Dude, who were your, uh, who were your guys growing up in WWE? Yeah, uh, I love Randy Orton. Um, John Cena was a big one, Triple H. Yeah. Weird one, but uh, Kofi Kesey.

Starting point is 01:00:24 I used to love Kofi Kesey. I used to love Kofi Kesey. I'm not even kidding. Probably like The Undertaker. So a little generic, but like, man, all those are my guys, but I love John Cena. I have the little wristband. I have the little wristband.

Starting point is 01:00:37 Walkin'. I love that, bro. Legend, man. You were that era right after us. I remember when we were growing up, it was like attitude era. Is that still the attitude era with John Cena and them or is that a different era? I always get the. It's like the tail end of it.

Starting point is 01:00:52 I think. Yeah. Like for us, it was like Stone Cold, because he still had that personality. Mankind. It was still called the WWF when we were like really growing up and then it had just transitioned to WWE. If you were going to build an NFL roster out of WWE, let's just say wrestling superstars, anybody from any era, what is your ultimate NFL

Starting point is 01:01:12 roster looking like? Let's start with the quarterback. Who are we going with? Damn, this is tough. Go ahead. Let's hear it. For QB, go ahead and give me, it's a surprise, give me CM Punk. See you. Ooh. Okay, boy. So you want somebody good at promos. You want somebody good at delivering promos. Okay, there we go, CM Punk. Things are gonna die.

Starting point is 01:01:33 Let's start out with alignment, bro. All right. Mark Henry. I wanted to give him punk. Hey! Give me the hard spots. Give me Mark Henry. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:42 Give me the big show, Ethan Tackle. Give me the great Khali and give you the great colleague and either tackle What about what about Andre the giant where's he fit Strongest man at Center now I had one attack was Big six seven players all around yeah, exactly The world's strongest man at center now Running back. Oh my goodness. Give me great misterio We're not going for a lot of crazy so is need them to get in the gaps just there's gonna be a lot of big guys up front to squeeze it and just find. Yeah, he's gonna be like Darren Sprouls.

Starting point is 01:02:27 You're gonna be like, there's rules gonna hide behind the line and then just Zachler get involved by the great colleague. Here he goes with it. Why do I see realize that's where I'm going to struggle. What about tight end? What do you think tight end? Because that's a definite like WWE position. I think every tight end is a wrestling fan.

Starting point is 01:02:44 It feels like I'm just trying to think of somebody man up blanket right now. You think you think John Cena's fast? To be fair though, I don't think many wrestlers are fast. I don't think that's what they go to wrestling for. They the ring is only so big. Yeah. I think John Cena figured out a tight end. I think that's a good one. If that's your lineman size, it would be proportionate for John to be taken. Who we going for Robert Cena? John Cena! Robert Cena, give me a Kofi Kase. Okay. Okay. Give me R-. Your truth. Our truth. Man, you're taking I don't even know these guys. I was thinking like a Jeff Hardy or like one of the Hardy brothers flying off the top ropes with the air like a Triple H or this team is running the fuck out of the ball Triple H is

Starting point is 01:03:40 the wide receiver. What about the rock? Who's to run this block. We're going to run that block. What about the Rock? Who's the Rock? The Rock could play tight ender receiver. Yeah, I mean, you put the Rock inside it. I mean, honestly, bro, it's be a bit crazy. Fill more swath with wide receiver. Putting that slot.

Starting point is 01:03:56 There we go. Yeah, we'll figure it out. There we go. All right. What about that? That's fucking. I think that's a pretty good roster. I would be interested.

Starting point is 01:04:03 That's what the XFL should have just done. They should have tried to get football players. They should have just done this. These guys out there, see how they go. That's right. Who would be your tag team partner if you ever were to join the WWE? Without a doubt, without thought, without question,

Starting point is 01:04:22 Creed Humphrey. Creed. He's your tag team in the NFL. Why wouldn't he be the tag team in the NFL? You guys got it. You guys are taking him down. What would your tag team name be? You guys got a team name?

Starting point is 01:04:33 Ebony and Ivory. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Starting point is 01:04:40 Ah! Put it on a T-shirt! Put it on a T-shirt! Put it on a t-shirt! Put it on a t-shirt! Put it on a t-shirt! Oh, that is funny! Oh! That's good. Oh my gosh, that's good.

Starting point is 01:04:56 That's great. How did it come to you so quick, man? That was gold. It's got luck in the back. God damn, Ebony and Ivory, man. That was gold. God damn, Ebony and ivory, man. That is electric. So, who are big dog? Let's, let's get to this last segment, man. No topping that. That's gonna be the best thing.

Starting point is 01:05:16 Oh, man. Ebony and ivory forever, man. It's our last thing. We always close out the the interviews with we gotta ask. But you don't have to answer you can tell us to fuck off on any of these questions. Or you can just give us a quick answer, man. Let's start it off with what is your ideal Casey barbecue plate? Ooh, okay. I do play some car from jockstack. I'm not getting lamb ribs, man. I don't know why but they have the best lamb

Starting point is 01:05:42 ribs. Lamb ribs. I might get in on these. Is that different than like lamb chops? Like what is the they just don't know why, but they have the best lamb ribs. You say lamb ribs? Lamb ribs. I'm about to get in on these. I haven't even had these yet. Is that different than lamb chops? What is the, they just don't cut them up? Yeah, it's just the red part of the lamb. So they do a dry rub season on it,

Starting point is 01:05:52 but super tender, mad, decent mami of the bones. Tell you right now. I do like lamb. Lamb is great. Okay, all right, all right. I did not expect that from a Tennessee guy. I did not expect lamb ribs. I did not. Let me do the full reason. So I'm going to lay out land from KC and Burden. So two from there,

Starting point is 01:06:09 right? I'm also going to show a ton of love to Texas. I want half a pound of brisket, at least. At least. I want a beef rib. A little piece of beef rib. Beef rib is the best. That's my favorite. Oh, I love beef rib. And then finally close it out for Memphis. That's where I would do my pork. So pork ribs, pulled pork, even like a barbecue chicken. That's my, that's my season on there. So everything.

Starting point is 01:06:33 What about sides? Where we go in sides? I got to have mac and cheese, baked beans, give me slaw. Slaw. Dessert? I think I know where you're going with dessert. I think the proper dessert is all good. I think the proper dessert is all good.

Starting point is 01:06:41 I think the proper dessert is all good. I think the proper dessert is all good. I think the proper dessert is all good. I think the proper dessert is all good. I think the proper dessert is all good. I think the proper dessert is all good. I think the proper dessert is all good., give me slaw. Slaw. Dessert? I think I know where you're going with dessert. I think the proper dessert's always gonna be like a peach cobbler or banana pudding. I thought you were going banana pudding.

Starting point is 01:06:53 That's the bar I go all day. I gotta ask you this, because we talked about this last week. When you think of barbecue, do you think of the Midwest or do you think of down south? I think down south. Bam! Bam!

Starting point is 01:07:04 But to be fair, Tennessee is the Midwest, to be fair. No, it's not. Tennessee is the Midwest. Take it back. No, I'm messing with you. No, it's South South, brother. It's still down south. To the original 13 colonies, I'll give you that.

Starting point is 01:07:21 Yeah. Today's day and age, I mean, it's right next to us. It is, yeah. It is is. If Ohio is the Midwest. It really makes no sense that Ohio is in the Midwest, right? Like, I don't know. It's on the eastern side of the country. It's it's never made sense to me either way. And then Tennessee is in the middle of the country. It's not down south. It's like smack dab in the middle.

Starting point is 01:07:42 Yeah. So it doesn't make sense. Talking more about food. You won the Kelsey Jam wing eating contest by a landslide. It wasn't even fucking close. So time out, what is this? Cause I've dabbled in a wing eating contest. What was this? How many wings?

Starting point is 01:08:00 What was the time? I think it was like a minute. I don't even remember. It wasn't that long. It wasn't that long. It wasn't long. The dude you guys put me up against was a scrub man. I don't know. I think he won a contest to get into it.

Starting point is 01:08:12 I don't even think he just won like a raffle. Like he got pulled out. I don't even know if he like eight wings like that. But it was still what was the competition? What was the do you remember? It's a winging contest. Yeah. So who can eat the most in like a minute?

Starting point is 01:08:28 I know it was a winging competition of Travis. Trey, what was the, what was the, what was the deal? It was a wing stop deal. They had probably like 20 wings in a container. It was just as many as you could eat and then like fill it up in the same. So I think the time it was a minute though. It wasn't very long. How many did you get down in a minute?

Starting point is 01:08:45 Well, I could have gotten more but based on his tempo I was just You're in cruise this guy. This is getting this is getting crazy Put down try like seven fire easy. It was So have you ever heard a wing bull tray Yeah, so wing bull was is it fill it? It was a Philadelphia contest they used to have and the local radio station put it on because the Eagles were never in the Super Bowl. So the wing bowl was always the same time as the Super Bowl. They did it at Wells Fargo.

Starting point is 01:09:14 It was shenanigans. It was at seven in the morning. People would be drinking the night before. They would tailgate all fucking night. There was all sorts of, you wouldn't be able to do it again because there was like all sorts of strip clubs and other things involved. But there were like local superstars that developed into these large and left characters.

Starting point is 01:09:34 Anyways, I competed one year in it. And the way the contest worked, it was 14 minutes, one round of 14 minutes, then there was elimination, a second round of 14 minutes, and elimination, and then a speed round of two minutes. So 30 minutes overall, you have to eat wings. Whoa, what? I ate 65 wings in the first 14 minutes. I'm thinking I'm killing it. 65. I think it. I'm like, I just. He got fucking smoked. I was out in the first round, not even close. The woman who holds the record at wing bowl,

Starting point is 01:10:05 take a guess at how many wings the winner of wing bowl won with. This is insane. This is a 30 minute timeframe. Keep in mind 30 minutes. How many wings do you think she got down in 30 minutes? If you ain't 65 and got you look, I mean, it's gotta be like touch you like 100 right bro. Keep going This is all three rounds

Starting point is 01:10:32 Like she had over 200 in the first round In the first round he got fucking smoked by Brandon look up the record for wing bull. Look up bull record Molly Skyler. Make sure this legend too. She's a beast. She's a beast. She's a she's I think she's from Omaha or something like that. She's just this tiny woman. Oh they. Molly Skyler. They flew in the ringer. They flew in a ringer from Omaha. She qualified. She ate like 10 pounds of steak to qualify to get into the deal. No this is like a big prize. It was a big big event. Brandon, what was the, can you look this up, Brandon?

Starting point is 01:11:07 They deleted all information from the wing bowl because of what they were doing inside that stadium. She ate 455 in the first 28 minutes. That's unbelievable. I can't be real. 501, 30 minutes, it's 501 set by Molly Schuyler, Wing Bowl 2016. That was, how crazy is that though? 501 wings.

Starting point is 01:11:28 I mean, that's unbelievable. That doesn't even seem humanly possible. Listen, I've seen Trey Smith fill up a few to-go boxes. Every Thursday night. Dude, Thursday nights in Kansas City. The Pro Bowl shouldn't be playing flag, it should have an offensive lineman winging in competition. I wanna see which offensive lineman in the NFL can eat the most wings.

Starting point is 01:11:48 I'm with it. Yeah, I'd buy that ticket. Yeah, I'd fucking buy that ticket. Kingsley and I have a challenge because Kingsley said he's eating 80 in one sitting. So what? Kingsley's doing what? That's a good guard. I like him sliding into guard then.

Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah. Thursday nights are always my favorite after meetings because it's wing night in the facility. You can go in there and everybody, listen, the Kansas City chefs, they put together a spread of like five to six different flavors and they just keep bringing them out. They just keep bringing out. And when I tell you everybody's just in there cracking jokes, having a good old fucking time just smashing them and you see Trey walking out with fucking three boxes.

Starting point is 01:12:40 Dude, good times, baby. Good times, man. The worst part is getting the peanut on the way back home. Oh! Jason, I'm telling you, you gotta stop through the peanut at least one time before, like next time you're in KC, man. Mine's like three minutes from the crib, man.

Starting point is 01:12:57 I literally walked to it. I'm in. You go to the one downtown or you go to the one around Plaza? Downtown location. Oh yeah, it's a classy mess. It got so bad that every time I stop in there on Thursday, like, oh, the usual, or I'll call, they're like,

Starting point is 01:13:10 hey, is this Tre? I'm like, yeah, I will see you in about 10 minutes. Ah ha! We got you, dawg. Yeah, we got you. We'll make him fresh for you, big guy. Next question. O-line Mount Rushmore, who you putting on it?

Starting point is 01:13:21 Ooh, ooh, whoa. Top four O-linemen in NFL history. God, we were putting me on the spot, dude. I gotta put Larry Allen in there. Rest in peace. Larry Allen. For me, Allen, baby. And they play everyone wants to be as strong as Larry. But no one's strong as Larry. No one has the same. This is Larry and deceptively athletic. I got one play of him hawking down the interception. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I thought I was moving. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm not there yet. Okay.

Starting point is 01:13:53 Dude, I want to put in Jackie Slater. Yeah. Okay. Nice, man. He's so big man for like 20 plus years. Coach Jack has always talked about him and just look at his story, he's awesome. This is a personal one of mine. I wanna put, I wanna put Joe Thomas in there. Joe T. Oh yeah baby. So why, you say personal,

Starting point is 01:14:15 why is that a personal one for you? Like what is it? Just like that was a dude I used to watch a ton in high school. Hell yeah. I didn't have a guy like LaCharles Bentley at the time tell me, hey, you're not. LaCharles.

Starting point is 01:14:24 You got Joe Thomas? What the told me a Charles. Joe Thomas. What the fuck you watching? So he sent me straight pretty fast. I put Will Shields in there. That's a great. That's a damn good Mount Rushmore right there. That is damn good. That's it right there, baby.

Starting point is 01:14:41 Yeah, Joe. Dude, I love you put Joe in there. I mean, one of the most underrated, if that's possible, like the guy didn't miss a snap for like 10 years. He'd think about, I mean, how outrageous that is on top of him just not miss a snap. He was out there bawling. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:58 The entire time. He didn't miss a snap when they were like, oh, and 15. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, I'm still going to go out here and do my job because that's what I get paid to do. That's what makes it so 15. He's like, yeah, I'm still gonna go out here and do my job because that's what you're paid to do. That's what makes it so good. Legend man. Hall of Fame beef. He's got a farm to think about how crazy it is. He didn't miss a snap and not one of those snaps was a playoff snap. Could you imagine? I don't even know why I'm making that connection, but it's just

Starting point is 01:15:18 how it's just outlandish to me. Whatever. I'm sure he loves here. Yeah, I know. I'm an idiot. I should have said that. Who's the toughest guy you've ever had to block one on one? Aaron Donald. Yeah. AD. What about somebody unheralded? Maybe somebody the media wouldn't expect. I would say Mui Collins, who was just re-schooled to 49ers. Dude, I played him when he was young in Dallas and got to watch him get a lot better over his tenure there. And I agree. There's something about the like you could tell he's smart and he's like he's ahead of

Starting point is 01:15:54 like what he wants to do. And I love that answer. Malik is a great player. Where's he at now? You said where? He's 49ers. I don't know if he's there again this upcoming year. Yeah, he started in Dallas, I think.

Starting point is 01:16:07 He's with the Texans the first time I played him. Then he went to the up, then he went to Houston. Then the 49ers, probably. Great answer. Love that answer. Why do you is there a reason? I just think for his size, his ability to move the way he does. And like you said, you can tell he's anticipating like what he's going to do for his moves. You know, I mean, he's sort of setting something up every time and like generally guys that

Starting point is 01:16:27 size are going to have the ability to move the way he does. And just like, he's very proficient with his hands as well. So I always felt like he was a guy that he doesn't have the quote unquote, like namesake and the accolades, but he's one of those dudes where you go to sleep on a man, you're gonna have a long ass day. Like it really embarrass you fast. Yeah, man. I just respected him, man. I just respected him. I really

Starting point is 01:16:45 respect him. Love that answer. Man. I gotta ask you this just made me think of our guy friend of the friend of the family friend of the show. We got to actually get him on the show soon. But Colin Sanders. Going up against sir bank on Monday night. Sir, this past year, man. Yeah, it was cool playing. He probably wasn't talking, right? He didn't talk to us, right?

Starting point is 01:17:10 No, Kyle was locked in. He was, he wasn't locked in. He was locked in. No, it was cool, St. Vance, man. Kyle was probably one, he's gotta go down. He was one of my favorite teammates I ever had. Of all time. Just great dude, man, but funny.

Starting point is 01:17:23 Unbelievably funny, man. It's always gonna dude, man. Funny, unbelievably funny, man. It's always going to be a good time around Bank, man. But that's just funny as hell. Was it? I was going to say that I can see him being locked in when whenever I came across him on the field, but you already know he is such a funny guy and such like a I want to say a class cloud, but he's here to have a good time while we get business done.

Starting point is 01:17:43 You know what I mean? And he's got that championship work ethic and everything, but it's just, I don't know why it's hard for me to see some guys take it that serious. And for whatever reason, I mean, I saw it, but it just had to feel different for you going up against him as a saint instead of just in practice and stuff.

Starting point is 01:18:04 Yeah, it definitely was a weird feeling those first couple of plays, but I think the biggest thing is it's like for me Larry, that like, man, if your buddy makes a play on you, it makes you look bad, it's gonna be even worse. So like, you can never. Nah, you already know. I know too much.

Starting point is 01:18:16 You know, like, maybe a little middle play, like, big choo choo choo choo. You know, you gotta be on your P's and Q's, man. Speaking of going against guys in practice, what's it like to go up against Chris Jones? What was that first one-on-one like? Yeah, he gave me my welcome to the NFL moment. Yeah, let's put it like that.

Starting point is 01:18:34 That was gonna be our next question. You gotta do it like that. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, man, going against Chris, like, obviously, you know the caliber of player he is. You know, I was a rookie coming into it, and I just remember, like, just being overwhelmed a little bit with, like, obviously, you know the caliber of player he is. You know, I was a rookie coming into it. And I remember, like, just being overwhelmed a little bit with like St. Joe's sheer volume of plays you gotta learn.

Starting point is 01:18:50 It's hot as hell. Like, they're riding you every day. And then here you are blocking this all-pronged. So like best teams to tackle at NFL. Like, good luck, rook. Like, figure it all this out. You know, and, you know, for me, it was just getting whooped repetitively towards like,

Starting point is 01:19:04 okay, I'm learning. Okay, this works against them, where I can't, I can't play him like this. But like, I feel like the sort of line to it all was I understand that as I go through the season, I'm not gonna play Chris Jones. Every single week, every single week, like I might face like maybe one, but there's only one Chris Jones. You know what I mean? So like for me, it's like understanding how to block them. But then also the lessons like I'm over here, you know, riding this like a long drive drill. We're like play 13, he got something out, he's back in. And I throw a right hand, he slashes it out, beats me.

Starting point is 01:19:37 He's like at Pat Svips. And he just comes back and it's like, and look here, Rook, you gotta get that hand to the outside. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just like. He gonna come over and sweet talk you, man. You can't throw that out to the outside. You know what I'm saying? You can't throw that hand. I'm just like, he gonna come over and sweet talk you, man. You can't throw that outside hand too shallow. And he just going loud, but I'm just like,

Starting point is 01:19:49 what is going on, bro? Trey, I've been trying to tell you, you can't be doing that. Yeah. That Mississippi accent, man. Yeah, I love him though, man. Like I really, I'm so happy I get to go against that type of player every time.

Starting point is 01:20:04 Cause I know once again, it just prepares me, bro. I'm not gonna see get to go against that type of player every time because I know once again It just prepares me. Oh, I'm not gonna see that all the time, you know, just like that iron sharpens iron, right? I want to be able to go against the best. So like oh, yeah, sure time and the bullets are flying I already see something like that. But actually, you're not as good as them. So let me show that guy Yeah, you're gonna find too many people as good as him in the actual game. It's a good thing. He's in practice You like that? Yeah. We saw him before he really started to develop a name.

Starting point is 01:20:28 The year we actually won the Super Bowl, I think it was one of his first games, like starting starting. Yep. Bro, we didn't really prepare for it. We just like we're like, oh, we're just playing like a three technique. And I happen to be like, who in the fuck is this guy? Like he's. I was like, God dang, this guy. And then we watched the rest of the season, he's killing everybody.

Starting point is 01:20:52 It's like, thank God it's not just us. Let's do this. Nine five, man. That's fun. Trey, I think we're good, dog. I appreciate you coming on, giving us your time, your stories, man. The sir. Wish you the best. When you already know going into mini camp, man,

Starting point is 01:21:07 we're going to fucking turn this thing up. Get right back after it, baby. I'll see you next week, man. But appreciate you taking the time and jumping on and telling us all these fun stories, man. Yeah, I appreciate you. I'm actually on Monday. You already know.

Starting point is 01:21:22 God back at it. You say. All right. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Trey Smith. Man. My dog. What a legend. Such a cool story, too, man. He's only adding on to it, man. I don't know what hits harder, the way he plays football or his personality. God, he's lovable. That's my guy right there.

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