New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 10/6
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Anyways, though, back to the Yankee bus trip group chat.
They did say that one of those illegals attacked a 69-year-old truck driver over the weekend.
clicked the link and it was Mark Sanchez.
What did Mark Sanchez?
He got stabbed.
He attacked a 69 year old guy and got stabbed.
At one point, Mark Sanchez was in critical condition.
Wow.
You didn't see this?
No.
Okay, yeah.
So it started out, it was all like prayers for Mark.
I hate the Jets and even I was like, damn, that's fucked up.
Y'all stab Mark Sanchez for what?
Then more information started to come out and he was the aggressor and the 69 year old guy
was defending himself.
and, you know, had it on him
and had to dice
dice mark up a little bit.
So this was just a road,
like a road rage of something?
Yeah, so essentially
there was some type of altercation
that authorities still can't figure out
what really caused it
or what had Mark just freaking out.
But he ended up beating the shit
out of this old guy.
He pepper sprayed him.
That didn't work.
You know, because Mark is used to fucking D-Ns
and the guy had to end up
stabbing him to protect him.
himself. Listen, man. That's just weird.
Will Smith did not put on that terrible accent for nothing.
So you think this may be a CTE? Hell yeah.
Based off, this is going off the little bit of information that we have and they're saying they
don't know what caused Mark to go off like that. One can make the assumption of the amount of
hits an NFL quarterback takes. Yeah. I'm sure that can cause that type of rage out of nowhere.
Yeah, because that sound like it wasn't even that serious of a situation to end up getting stabbed over.
Well, listen, we don't know all the details.
So I don't want to say this was some, you know, Aaron Hernandez trigger CTE situation.
Maybe the old fuck said something crazy.
I don't know.
But for what we do know now, there wasn't a clear reason on why Mark Sanchez did what he did.
So he's been charged with three misdemeanors?
Yeah.
And the level five felony?
I don't know.
I just think it's one kind of crazy
that a 69 year old is
driving a truck
and also has pepper spray
and also has a knife.
Just like three things I just wouldn't
Why is it crazy for 69?
And also beating the shit out of a 69 year old
is fucking nuts, but
But why is it crazy for a 69 year
to be driving a truck?
I mean, you know.
You think 69 years can't drive truck?
I think some 69 year olds go.
I just feel like those jobs
should maybe go to younger people.
Rory has always said that he thinks
that older people should take their drivers
license again because he hates old people driving.
That's a common thing with him.
I legitimately almost like snitched to the state of Illinois on my grandfather.
Like why did you give this 90 year old man a fucking license again?
Why are you allowed this man?
90 and 69 is totally different.
No, for sure.
But I do think at some point certain jobs, yeah, maybe it's better.
If they go to younger people, yeah, that's all.
But doesn't mean he deserves to be.
beat up by an NFL quarterback.
Well, look, he had it on him.
See?
He never knew he was going to run into Mark Sanchez, I'm believing, but he knew one day he would have to stab somebody.
I was in, I was in AutoZone getting oil from my car.
And, you know, like at the checkout where usually you'd buy gum, they have pepper spray there, like in a bowl that you could just buy.
And I was like, nah, I feel so pussy buying pepper spray.
I just feel like as a man, like that's...
I feel like pepper spray is reserved, which is fucked up.
Like, all right, allegedly, allegedly, Tata, I understand his situation.
If you can't bring in anything into an arena to protect your team and your crew, all right,
pepper spray is the only thing we can get in.
We can't get any other tools in.
So we're going to do that.
I understand in that situation.
But I do feel kind of like a lady in distress if I was just walking down the street with pepper spray in my pocket.
Part of my male ego would feel really odd.
about just having pepper spray over.
I might be with you on that one.
Like, nah, I'll take the ass whoopin.
Yeah.
Like, a man having pepper spray is a little crazy.
Like, you go to, you go, a man come over your house,
demaris, and he put his keys on the counter.
Not on the keys is crazy.
And he got pepper, he got pepper spray.
He got pepper.
All right, so that's better than if y'all sitting down on the couch,
and he reached, like, he reached behind and put his home around and his shirt go up
and you see the pepper sprays clipped on his hip like a, a glock?
That's, that's better?
The crazy shit is, I would assume that he, like,
if you carrying a pepper spray, like, you just don't want to shoot a woman.
Like, do you think I'm a rob you?
Like, I would think the pepper spray was for me.
Wait, what?
How did you interpret it that way?
What the fuck was wrong with you?
Well, you think he came to the crib to beat and then spray pepper spray in your face?
No, I feel like, why do you have the pepper spray on your hip?
Like, who are you protecting yourself from?
Like, me?
That's what I would think.
No, but that's what we're saying.
Like, the fact that as a man, you have pepper spray clipped onto your pants.
maybe on parole
What
If you are parole
You're not supposed to have a gun
No shit
If somebody run up on you
If you have a gun
You're gonna fucking use it
No you have the pepper spray
To keep yourself out of jail
Shit don't we make a sense
To you all that make perfect sense in my brain
I'm well I'm telling you that
Male ego makes no sense
It would behoove a person to have pepper spray
On his head
If you guys are on parole
And shouldn't be getting into shit
Carry pepper spray on you
So that you can protect yourself
and also not go back to jail.
Is it illegal in New York?
Pepper spray?
I was in New Jersey.
I was at an auto zone in New Jersey, so I don't know.
It could be different in New York City between that.
It might be.
But if you use it on somebody to protect yourself,
you're not going to jail for you some pepper spray.
It might be illegal, but you're not going to jail.
Is legal in New York City?
But I've always felt like I've had girlfriends that ordered pepper spray off Amazon,
which I was happy about.
You should always, always be able to protect yourself.
but as somebody that's been pepper sprayed twice
like I feel like you need some form of training
because pepper spray is not for play play.
I see people pepper spray themselves all the time.
It is, pepper spray will fuck you up.
So just to just give that to anyone,
like Basil's just sending that to you
with no release form, something.
Like you should be able,
I think in the police academy,
you have to get sprayed by pepper spray to carry it.
And I'm not saying our police training
is top tier, but that does make sense to me.
You should know what the fuck pepper spray feels like
before you just walk around willy-nilly
because some people just have anger issues
and it's not to protect themselves.
They just have pepper spray and they're pissed.
Yeah, I think any man carrying pepper spray is fucking crazy.
I still can't.
Add that to the list of things that men can't do.
Men can't own pepper spray.
That's great.
But we're not allowed to be happy.
Men can't end there.
And y'all see, y'all see how y'all be saying women be like,
men can't do this, men can't do that.
No, men be saying men can't do this.
No, no, for sure.
100%.
100%.
Like, yeah, I'm one of those men.
A man should not have pepper spray.
Like, come on, fan.
Pepper spray?
Like, if we get, I'm getting it to argue with somebody.
I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and just spray this dude?
Yeah.
What you mean?
Yeah.
Like, we arguing and I'm supposed to just bust them with pepper spray?
Well, okay, well, why are you going to bustle with the pepper spray?
Pepper spray is to protect yourself unless you feel threatened,
you shouldn't be using a pepper spray.
Yeah, but I'm saying, I'm getting into like a Mark Sand.
I'm getting into argument with somebody like I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and hit them with the spray.
Nah, but if he wipping your ass, you guys spram.
He had to end up stabbing him.
I see, but I feel like that's worse.
I feel like if it's just fist, me and another man is going.
It ain't like he backed out something.
But if he pull out a knife, I'll pepper spray him.
No, he got just hands, but he fucking me up.
I back out the pepper spray.
That's not crazy to you?
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
That's what I'm saying.
Why do I have the pet, like, we know this crazy me right here.
I would hope that at this point of my life, I wouldn't run.
to somebody and we get into a fight and he pull a knife or a gun out on me.
But if he put a knife out, pepper spray him.
No, if he pull a knife out, then yeah, I'm assed out because I ain't got no pepper spray.
See?
And the nigga next to you, he's not assed out.
He not stabbed.
You stabbed up.
No, I'm running.
The pepper spray didn't work.
He had to stab him.
Yeah, he had to take it to another level.
Mark wasn't back and down.
Even though I did make the original point that men should not carry pepper spray because
it's a little feminine, there are some cases.
Tau Tau, one, understand.
man in the event that a 69 year old man runs into an NFL quarterback that wants to beat the shit out of him, I'm okay with that guy having pepper spray.
I would never think that this scenario would ever exist.
But now that I know it exists, 69 year olds should be able to carry pepper spray because clearly NFL quarterbacks are targeting them.
Yeah.
I'm losing a fight to Mark Sanchez.
Another thing that man should do.
And I'm 35.
Another thing that man should do, Demaraz, you go to a concert with a dude, you turn around and he's recording like everybody in the arena.
You mean this move doesn't turn more?
Oh, fuck.
Stop.
It.
You can't record.
Yo, I'm telling you.
You can record the concert.
No, no, no.
No, that's not what you said.
It has to be a female performance.
No, that's, you know, if you can record the concert.
Nick's recording Chris Brown is crazy.
But if you start, if you start, if you're, if, niggas recording CB is crazy.
I did it.
That's nasty.
And what's so nasty is I did it and I didn't post it.
Because you know it's nasty.
It's nasty for a man to record Chris Brown's concert.
That is disgusting.
I don't care what any of y'all say.
You're supposed to just live in the moment.
It's supposed to just be a memory.
Oh, my God.
Memories don't live like people.
It's supposed to just be a memory.
They always remember you.
Now, if it's a Chris Brown show and Kaylonie pop out, oh, it's time to record.
That's Kaylonie.
Okay, can you record?
Okay, hear me out.
But see me doing his, his.
valid and you like this?
Nah, that's nasty work.
Hold on. There's two instances.
If he's singing damage, right,
and you, can you send it to your X that you cheated on?
That was your song?
You cannot record no man.
Okay.
Performing it.
Okay, that's one.
And number two, if he got Kailin Nicole up there
and they grind and you can't record that either.
No, that's nasty.
Maul said it, not me.
That's nasty work, bro.
I'll find what you record at a concert.
Just don't turn around.
with cheese and get in the audience.
That's going to piss me off.
This is why it's nasty.
Can I ask you something?
What am I going to do with that video?
Well, some people just post where they are.
Like, if you post it, oh, you're at a show, post, that's fine.
That's nasty.
I don't think the man's going to take it and beat off to it in the bathroom.
No, but that's nasty to just be like, it's nasty to be walking into the Chris Brown
concert and you record the stadium.
What is that?
Who did it?
Somebody must have did it because it pissed you off.
Because I look at it.
Like, I go to events.
I don't record shit.
Like, we went to, we went to, we went to.
the Summer Slam and I recorded Jade walking.
That's Jade, though.
We was there for Jade.
Did I pull out my phone when fucking Logan, Paul walked in a fucking, I didn't record
none of that.
I did.
I did.
I'm not recording that shit.
When Jade walking down to, oh, yeah, like, damn, okay, that Jade, yeah.
But when Logan came out, what's our guy's name?
A jelly roll kid?
I didn't record none of that shit.
I think I recorded the entire match.
Nah, hell, no.
That's nasty work.
How do you feel about me and justice singing in harmony together at the
is gay.
Maul, not everything is gay.
No, that's gay.
Two men singing in harmony at a Chris Brown concert and then recording it?
I didn't, who's recording it?
We're being recorded.
Yeah, but you're singing in harmony though.
And you took the bass.
I mean, Justice is more of a soprano.
Another man might be gay.
That's nasty.
That is disgusting.
No.
Do you hear me crying?
Not only did we do the oo-oos, we did it with the U-Us, we did it with
the pan where I I oh oh like that's how we
nah that's how we gave it up men ain't supposed to be
recording no Chris Brown con if you're not allowed to sing
at a Chris Brown show with your man's like I don't even know are we
no no no well to be there you shouldn't even been there with your
man's but I know why you were there with your man's because your man's got you
in but you two niggas should not be singing out of
son too you're singing though niggas should not be calling each other and
saying yo we go we out to Chris Brown together that's all right I'm with
more that's a little I
Yeah, I told you...
It's shaky.
Yeah, listen, aside from...
I went to the show by myself.
Oh.
But listen, aside from the weather...
I don't just argue.
Just to argue.
Listen, aside from the weather being trashed that day, I really felt nasty going to that
Chris Brown show.
Like, I got dressed and put Colon on.
I was like, what the fuck am I doing?
You're dragging it.
You're dragging it.
You thought it was...
But when I get dressed to go outside, I put that's part of my routine.
But when I did it, I'm like, yo, I'm going to Chris Brown show,
though.
Like, why am I?
Yeah, but your generation thinks it's a stat that men would faint
when they'd see Michael Jackson.
So now I can't sing with Justice at a Chris Brown show?
That's gay too.
Who told you that was a stag.
You would have fainted.
At what?
At Michael Jackson.
You wouldn't record Michael Jackson.
God, you would have hit knee.
Y'all are crazy.
You're lying.
You think I would have fainted.
You are fucking lying right now.
If Michael Jackson was in front of you fucking performing,
you're bringing out your phone and going, oh my fucking God.
No, you said I would faint.
No, I don't think he'd faint.
Oh, that's what I'm saying, no, I said he faint.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yo,
Mall fainted.
Are you fucking crazy?
Fated?
Fated?
Yo.
What's the fuck you talk about?
Faint?
Yo, if I faint,
I have a serious health condition.
They got none to do with Michael Jackson.
I'll tell you this.
If Mall faints, I'm taking my phone out to record when the EMT's
coming and give him a smelling salt to wake him up.
The footage of some fucking EMT just putting some shit in Mall's nose and him coming
too would be the funniest thing.
All right, but Michael Jackson is like the exception.
You could record Mike.
You're telling me, was it Atlanta?
Chris Brown brought out Usher a few days ago.
Yeah, I would have fucking died.
Who's not pulling their phone out?
Like, look at this fucking moment.
I went to the Usher show and didn't record nothing.
And that's one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life.
Okay, well, okay.
Granted, I am very much pro not recording at shows.
I typically do not because I do like to enjoy the experience.
And honestly, when you record a show, it's not like it's good.
Like you don't like watch back the footage like wow this was great because it's a fucking cell phone footage.
But I do understand why people do it to capture that moment that they can look back on.
Like if Usher and Chris Brown are together.
Yeah, I might go like this.
Wow.
But you know what?
You know why it's nastier now?
Because you could literally pull that video up anytime you want right now.
You could just watch it in 4K.
That's what I'm saying.
So you want to record.
It's like bro, that's going to be, this is going to be.
everywhere in 10 seconds.
You do not have to record this.
Yeah, but I mean, are you ever on like a plane and don't get the Wi-Fi and just be going
through your camera roll?
And like, oh, damn, I remember this day.
I do that sometimes.
That's fun.
Okay.
Now, all right, now men can't reminisce.
No, we can't.
Yo, men can't reminisce.
Funny as shit.
Men can't say reminisce, first of all.
Men can't reminisce.
No, we can't reminisce.
All right, so P.
P. Rock and C.L. Smooth.
We get them out the culture.
No, those are the only ones.
The only Pete Rock
The only two people allowed to reminisce is Pete Rock
and C.L. Smooth.
Everybody else, just remember.
All you other niggas, just remember.
Don't reminisce.
Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth is the only people
that can reminisce. That's it.
That's hilarious.
All right, well, shit.
Don't pull your phone out at a show.
I just felt like it was nasty.
Like, just to see men like recording.
It was just like, oh, y'all look crazy.
Like, that is wild.
But I don't know.
Some things just, just,
I don't know. I just get like, it just gives me like, you know what I mean?
It's like, like nobody, like, you know how you see something and you be trying to look around
to see if anybody else kind of like saw what you just saw? Like when I see men doing that, I'm like,
I'll be looking around like trying to look for the women like, yo, y'all don't see these niggas in here.
Like this ain't crazy. You don't, y'all don't see these niggas in here. It's funny.
These niggas is recording Chris Mul walking. Like, DeMaris, let's, let's see how honest
mall is going to be real quick. Okay. We, we, we know mall has been in courtrooms and courtside.
he's seen both sides
we know them always been to a lot of NBA games
in some seats that you and I could never dream of
have you ever pulled your phone out
and recorded grown, tall men
in short playing a child's game
in shorts. Yes, you have.
Yeah, I've recorded Kobe's last game in Detroit.
Okay, incredible. Kobe's last game that's monumental.
I do think it doesn't compare
but it is in the same conversation of Chris Brown
and Usher being on stage together.
I actually think Chris Brown and Usher
is a little bit more.
Yeah, Kobe's last game would be one thing.
Kobe's last game in Detroit is just like,
who cares that much about the Pistons?
No, it wasn't about the Pistons.
It wasn't his last game in Detroit.
Yeah, but it was about, yeah,
but I was courtside for that.
So you don't think there's...
Niggas running past, wiping sweat, flying on you.
Gay.
You think somebody was throwing sweat on me?
Unintentionally.
Yeah, shit.
They running past sweat.
Bacteria travels, yeah.
You smell a niggas must up close at front.
You paid for that.
I can promise you a nigger has never threw his sweat on me.
Okay.
I promise you.
I promise you if you sniff hard enough,
you could smell them niggas sweating on a bench next to you over there.
And don't do that.
You was playing lockdown defense on Ray Rice.
Sweat definitely got on you.
No, if I'm playing, that's different.
I'm talking about at a, like, I'm just watching the game.
Like, you think sweat is flying over?
No, hell no, that's not happening.
But yes, I have recorded.
Do you think there's some comparison there?
Like, can you get mad at the guy that takes his phone out for Chris Brown's last show at MetLife
as comparison to Kobe's last game at Little Caesar's Arena?
I think it's a little different only because it's like this man is singing to women.
Yeah, I'm filming him singing to women.
That's crazy.
That's crazy to me.
That's wow.
That's not wild to you?
No.
Okay.
Y'all, you were just to
singing together is crazy though
I'm gonna fuck
what you're talking about right now
me and my man
was not at that
Kobe game singing to each other
but you guys
were clapping when he scored
and
yo you seen that
tapping each other
I don't know if it's much
difference
no it's a different
yo dapping after somebody else
scored
you and your man singing
with homie is singing
and he ain't singing to y'all
he's singing to everybody
he's singing to the audience
wasn't singing to this nigga man
you ain't talking about
he's singing everybody
you think Chris
was singing to Rory
He looked at our section.
You think Chris cared about
with Roy we felt about that record?
Maybe.
Chris was worried about all of them
20,000 women in that.
First of all,
I believe,
doesn't Chris Brown have
an album called fan something?
Fan of a fan?
Yeah.
He's a fan of all of his fans.
He cares about all of us.
That's a breezy thing.
He cared about everybody that bought a ticket.
You ain't by no ticket,
though,
so he probably didn't care about you.
But he cared about everybody
about a ticket.
But DeMaris,
she knows what I'm saying.
No, she knows that's kind of ick.
You see when I first acted,
she was like,
No, because that the men turning around and filming the arena, that it gave me the egg.
But you want to film the show?
I don't care about that.
Don't just don't do too much.
Like, don't have a phone up the whole time.
See?
See how stipulations come with it, but not.
Yeah.
But I don't like that when anybody.
Like, watch the fucking show.
I don't like you recording a whole concert the whole entire time anyway.
Why even go to a Chris Brown show if you're not going to scream yo?
Like, what's the point?
You screamed, yo?
Of course I did.
They cut the music.
All of us said it in unison.
He screamed yo.
Yeah, because he know how it feels when you got to ask a nigga,
yo tell me fellas, have you seen her?
Like, he, no, he get bitches.
I know Erica Minna.
You screamed yo at a Chris Brown concert?
Of course I did.
I didn't stop singing at that show.
I actually was shocked at how much Chris Brown lyrics I know.
I'm shocked.
I was like, damn, I know every word to every Chris Brown song.
I'm shocked at how much Chris Brown is you know.
I'm actually appalled right now that you know so many Chris Brown lyrics.
I said, yeah.
I guess have fun, man.
I don't know.
If I was with a girl, I probably wouldn't have been singing passionately with Justice,
because I'm sure that may give her the, but it was just the fellas.
I could be wrong here, but let me pull up.
I'm not going to have Josh pull up the meaning of the definition of gay.
All right, man.
Lighthearted and carefree.
Okay, so that's gay.
Yeah, you were gay.
The real definition of gay is happy.
Hey, nobody more lighthearted and carefree to you.
True.
You.
I'm lighthearted.
And carefree?
Yeah.
Have you ever seen me lighthearted?
Well, why are you saying that like it's an insult?
It's okay to be lighthearted.
I'm not saying.
She said nobody's more lighthearted and carefree to me.
Yeah, you're a lighthearted, carefree person.
Nan had a gay disposition in a very pretty face.
I don't know what that means, but that's just one of the definitions and examples of being gay.
That's what Webster.
Lighthearted and carefree.
Gotcha.
The city's gay and lesbian people.
The cities.
I'm just reading definition, man.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what I'm saying.
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Because here's the thing, too, that people don't understand Demaris.
People knew about a lot of that shit when it was going on when it was happening.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, so it's like, you know, like.
But I don't think it's about people caring.
It's about who, it's about who supporting you.
and will people withdraw their support from you
because they see you supporting someone else?
Like people turned on Glorilla.
If you turned on Glorilla.
Would you support them after this?
If you had a relation with them?
I wouldn't have a relationship with Puff
and be aware of anything like that.
I said if you had a relationship with you.
No, I wouldn't.
But I'm also not, I am also talking
from a broke person's point of view.
I don't have millions of dollars on the line.
Like, that can change things for different people.
But as far as like caring about things,
yeah, some people don't care,
but their fans might care.
So like I was saying,
people were attacking Glorilla
because Glorilla,
who had previously been on tour with Meg,
Glorilla posted,
reposted something.
And sometimes when you repost posts from Instagram,
the song that the original poster
posted with it will show up on your story.
The song happened to be a Tori Lane story.
People went crazy.
Like you never,
like attaching yourself to certain people
on accident on purpose,
you can lose some of your own fans doing that.
But Glow could just buy Mega Bag and be fine, right?
Anyway, that wouldn't just fix it?
Big bag.
Yeah, but people might be afraid to work with Diddy because, especially women, because they might lose support from their own.
Which is also interesting that you bring up Tori Lanes because I think when he gets out of jail, that...
He'll be fine.
That first album might be thriller level of the amount of people that are going to want to work with him.
Yeah.
He's going to have every A-list feature, every A-list.
producer, anything that Torrey Lanes wants on this project is going to be met.
Which is so cool.
They are going to champion Tory Lanes, they will champion.
You said Thriller?
I'm just saying the resource of points of Jones.
In terms of support.
Do I think Tor Lanes is going to make an album closer thriller?
No, I'm saying as far as the resources that he will be given, which is the complete opposite
of what I think Puff would be given when he gets out of jail.
It's just weird how the perception of things goes where I think the whole industry, clearly
loves and still supports Torrey Lanes,
whereas Puff, I'm not sure it's going to be like that,
and they both are attached to harming women.
So it's weird just how the world works in that way.
People care about what they care about if it means, you know,
they have a personal relationship, you know how it is.
People turn the blind outs and things.
It's like, no, that's my homeboy.
I know he did some whack shit, but that's my man.
Like, I mean, out the gate, I think he'll have a Drake feature.
I think he'll get any feature he wants.
I think people cannot wait to help.
help Tori Lanes once he gets out of jail.
I see what you're saying.
Sick.
I mean, that's...
It's not like this is even really like a theory.
We've seen the outlying support for the last few years for him.
I think every label is going to want to meet with him.
Yeah, I think it's going to be drastically different than what we've seen with most people
that have been convicted of harming women.
But why do you think that?
Because people change...
I mean, I told you that I think generals...
should study Tori Lanes's like PR team.
Like he has Netanyahu level PR at this point.
How he spun that and everything that he put into the media even from jail
made everyone actually believe that he did not shoot a woman after he apologized
on a jail call for it.
Yeah, but even that, I don't think that people, there's nobody.
I don't think people think that he didn't do it.
I think people don't care that he did it.
I think it's a mix.
It's a mix between there are.
People got to stop, but those people got to stop.
Just say you don't care that he did it.
You don't care about Megan.
You don't care what happened between them.
It was some domestic shit.
They were dating, fucking whatever they were doing.
Got drunk.
Things happened.
I don't care.
But people got to stop saying that.
Who did they say shot Megan now?
Because every week I feel like it changes.
First of it was she didn't get shot.
She stepped on glass.
Yes.
and then every week
who shotter changes
I don't
I believe I believe
Oswald shut her
okay got it
so this week is Oswald
Lee Harvey
I got you
I don't know
I think I just think again
back to
people just don't care
and I think that
you know we
we sit back
and we try to think
that people care
and hope that people
care about certain things
the way you know
others do
but people really
don't give a fuck
we can definitely move on
from this
my last question
who does Torrey Lane's
first interview
who does Puff's first interview
Um
Puff going to um
Gail gotta tell both sides
I was just about to say Puff's going to go
Oh yeah Puff is definitely going to Gail for sure
Gail might go to
Whatever federal prison Puff ends up in
After the sentencing
Gail might get that interview
In prison
Hmm
Tori on the other hand I'm going to go Wack 100
On Clubhouse
Nah
As he gets in the car
That picked him up from
Bory be serious
I could see Kai getting that
First
I can see Kai getting that, yeah.
Or Aiden Ross, something like that.
That's one of the streamers.
But Puff, I don't know, Candace owns.
But what does the Kai
Tori Lane's first interview look like?
Like, are we dancing in the basement?
Kai's not taking an interview.
Aiden Will, Kai's not taking that interview.
Why not?
I would definitely take that interview.
Kye is not taking the Tori Lane's interview.
Why not?
Because Kai has gotten much smarter
with his PR and, like,
Kai has gotten smarter.
Kai's not taking that interview.
And Kai is very aware of who his audience is and how the internet works.
His audience supports story lanes.
To an extent.
But Kai has gotten so big.
That's like Kai is,
Kai has gotten so big that like he has regular grown women rooting for him.
Like, oh my God, he's so great.
Aidan Ross, we'll take it.
Yeah.
They don't have the same audience.
They both have big audiences that are around the same age group.
But they do not have the same body.
Well, I mean, Aiden's audience definitely supports their own age.
Yes.
Matter of fact.
They didn't know who he was, though, before he shot Megan, but now they definitely support him.
They support Tori so much.
They think he shot her and was happy about it.
Yeah.
Like, that's it.
That's shit.
That's it.
Well, yeah, I definitely, Aiden and Tori makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Kai's too big now.
Speedy.
Do we think Aiden?
No.
Speedy's not taking that.
Why not?
Because to what DeMere said about Kai, I actually feel is the truth about Speedy as far as he's going to be very particular on who he sits with.
He's very calculated.
he has a great image
I just don't think he would do the Tory
I just don't think he would do
If Tori's people breached out to Speedy
You think Speedy turns it down?
Yes, I do
I do and Speedy can't afford to turn down
Torrey fucking lanes
Like speedy gets huge interviews
Like what are we talking about?
I don't mean to make him
Like
Cam Newton
I could see it
I can see it too
I can see Puff and Shannon Sharp
Not mad at that little
That yeah that might
That yeah
Didn't Shannon just have to pay out
another 30 million to some girl?
Probably.
He down 50 amps.
Now puff,
now,
we saw all the tape.
Now,
now,
now,
now,
now,
now,
now,
now,
now puff,
now puff.
And I don't mean to joke
about a woman
being shot,
but if Torrey Lanes
did hot ones
on his exit.
All right, man.
All right,
man.
Just think of the Sean Evans's questions
when he got to the last wing.
Tori Lane's hot ones
would be the funny of shit.
Y'all still don't believe we living in the simulation.
Like, this shit is...
Like, look what we talk about.
Shannon Sharp sitting down with Puff soon as he comes home from shit.
Yeah.
That is fucking crazy.
I didn't think Sean Evans would have a public fallout with a porn star, but here we are.
I know what would break the internet?
Puff and Charleston White.
I know.
Y'all want to see the internet really break?
Because we say the internet broke.
It ain't never broke.
Charleston White and Puff sit down when Puff come home?
nothing is working after.
Charleston White is so dedicated. He might
purposely get arrested and put in the same
person as Puff just to get that
interview. He might just be his
selling just to like start that relationship.
Oh man, I'm watching it.
Charleston White and Puff would be absolutely nuts.
I'm watching it. But jokes aside, I do think Gail's
going to get that one. I mean, anyone
that's trying to change their image, whether
they're good at it or bad at it. Gail's right
there for you. We have Versus
is finally back.
I was actually excited to read this.
Yeah, at ComplexCon, they will be doing cash money versus no limit.
I was excited to walk in here today and debate this.
I don't know if anyone else was, but this could be a really, really cool versus.
So this is going to be at ComplexCon?
Yes, live from Vegas.
They need to do this shit in the, what's the thing?
The sphere?
The sphere.
The sphere would go fucking crazy for this.
Wow.
Okay, so wait.
So cash money is going to be there on stage.
I'm also asking, is no limit going to be there on stage?
Yeah, like I...
This could either be the greatest moment in hip-hop or one of the worst.
No in-between.
Yeah, because I'm not...
No gray area.
It's a, it's just so much.
It's a lot of questions.
I have a lot of questions.
This might be scarier than Gucci and Gizi.
Yeah.
Because who's there for cash money?
I mean, like who's...
I, I,
They've done a hot boys reunion.
Okay.
I think things have changed since then.
They changed.
Then they've changed and they've done another reunion.
Yeah.
So it's like who's still in communication, who still has a relationship with who?
No limit.
I mean, I don't know who.
I'm sure Silk will be there.
Master P would be there.
Isn't Mystical?
Mystical is locked up again.
Oh my God.
I,
Master P.
One of the greatest businessmen of all time.
Why are you taking a versus with your star player in jail?
Yeah, that's why I don't understand what I just don't get who would.
I don't know.
It's just a lot of, a lot of questions in the air.
Who's going to be there for both sides?
They could probably still play his music though, even if he's in jail.
No, no, they can't.
They're not playing Mystical's music.
Well, yeah.
It's like the first era of no limit, though.
You know why Mystical's locked up again?
Yeah, I'm going to say, well, we know what Mystical's in jail for.
Yeah.
Why would they be playing his music?
If you think that's going to stop.
No limit from playing mystical.
I think you guys are strongly mistaken.
I think it is.
Okay, so half the 90s is gone for no limit.
Like, because then you can't even...
That's why I'm sitting here looking so confused as to why this would be a thing
because now it's like, okay, what are we doing on both sides of this?
Cash money seems to be in a better, you know, standing with each other than no limit is, I think.
Like, I just don't know.
Salada.
When is this, October 25th?
this October?
This October? It's just tomorrow.
This October funny as shit.
I don't know about this.
I don't know about this one.
This one might be, this might be a mess.
And like, I mean, I think if you're going off the 90s in early 2000s, yes, it's a good
versus, but I just cash money get young money?
No.
No.
I mean, cash money is cash money.
All right, so let me actually, let me look at you now.
You think Nikki's showing up to this?
No.
You think Drake is showing up?
No, I don't.
So what do we do?
You guys saying they're just going to play mystical records.
I can't play a dream record.
No, I told you they're not going to play any mystical record.
Well, they said they got Snoot, Doug.
I'm sure they have Snoop.
Vegas, LA right there, sending a jet.
Snoop will be there.
But that's what I'm saying.
Okay, that's one.
All right.
Well, hold on.
Do we think Wayne will be there?
Yes.
Yeah, I don't think Birdman is doing this without Wayne co-signing it.
Because that's.
Juvia will be there, most likely.
Juvia will definitely be there.
And Juvia will definitely be there.
movies in like performing shape.
BG will probably be there.
I don't know what
Birdman and BG's relationship is right.
Oh, okay.
Mani Fresh will be there.
Get some big time.
That's what I'm saying.
It's just a lot of who's showing up to this?
That's my only thing.
It looks, listen, the flyer looks great
when you put cash money versus no limit.
We know the history.
We know the music.
But then when you get down to now,
you know, versus is a performance.
It's not like, you know,
just DJs playing records.
So now if it's a performance,
who's performing.
Yeah.
Wait, y'all think Lil Romeo
gonna be there?
For sure.
Definitely.
And first of all,
Romeo got some joints.
Let's not act like
you're not throwing
Lil' Romeo on the mix.
Who's not acting?
That's making me more...
I'm talking to the listeners
because I know some people
are probably giggling
like Romeo didn't have some joints.
But let me brace for
I hate white hip hop fans' opinions.
I was not a big fan of Snoop's No Limit error.
I don't even know the records
that are going to get off in Vegas
with Snoop on the No Limits side.
Neither was that.
Like, what does it really perform?
They'll probably cheat
and just play Snoop songs.
Nah, they can't do that.
That's fucked up.
That's not, we're not doing that.
Then he's allowed to play Best I have a Hacks.
Yeah, like that's not no limit.
That's not, you can't do that.
You gotta play the songs snoop it out on no limit.
You can't just play joints from doggy style.
Like, you can't do that.
Do we get thug for at least the first tape?
That was cash money.
Legit cash money, not like a sub-label like Young Money.
You said Thug?
Young Thug was signed two cash money at one boy.
What?
Yeah.
Him and Rich Romy Kwan had the table with Birdman.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I don't know if it was paperwork to put it.
They were on cash money.
That's what I'm saying.
So look what we're at.
We're going down to young thug like cash money.
But that's, but when you go further down the bench, that's what separates a team.
Like, like I said, the 90s, no limit in cash money.
That's a great matchup.
But the further you go down, cash money, it's not even fucking close.
Yeah.
I just don't know who's going to be there to perform, though.
Like shout out to Turk. I love Turk. Where's Turk?
Yeah.
Like, are they flying up to Vegas?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. It looks good, though. I mean, you know, we know the history. We know the music.
We know that time, that era was, you know, one of the best, especially for the South. But performing now in 2025 with people not having relationships and not being on speaking terms and things like that, I just don't know with the performance of a verse.
just looks like from these two labels.
I would love a scripted series or a proper doc about New Orleans at that exact time.
Not just the cash money story, not just the no limit story, but just New Orleans in that time.
Because both their stories are absolutely insane.
Two of the most iconic rap labels ever.
And then once you get into the alleged criminal side of both those, it's like, that's its own series and it's,
fucking self.
Absolutely.
But I mean, is Silk to Shocker going to be there?
Absolutely.
There's an article, sorry to interrupt, about Turk is suing cash money over kicking him
off the anniversary tour.
Okay, so he won't be there.
So we got that answer.
Turk will not be at the sphere.
I think it'll be Mani Fresh, Birdman, and then Lil Wayne's only going to perform,
man, I miss my dogs while none of his dogs are there.
You don't think Juvia will be there?
maybe you don't think bg it would be there i told you the bg birdman thing changes depending the vlad
interview oh yeah yeah yeah i don't know it's like things like this is again this because of so much
personal you know things that's going on it's i just don't know what it looks like on stage i just don't
know if it's think monica will perform on c murder's behalf no i don't think i don't think so i think it'd be a
nice tribute monica and brany's going on tour though oh for real oh wait weren't they on tour
already was a no no they're going we talked about it they're going out to her it starts really soon
Coco Jones Kelly Rowland oh yeah yeah yeah it's Barclays right mm-hmm and Newark if I'm
not mistaken oh we might need to go to the Newark one instead oh the aunties gonna be outside
the aunties but the young aunties though Coco Jones gonna bring out some so a new a new
generation brandy and Monica gonna bring out some young aunties I think young aunties is like 40
like 35 40 they're gonna bring out yeah they're gonna bring out yeah they're
They're going to bring out the, I'm just saying those is aunties still.
They got to get home.
There's a lot, there's going to be a lot of crockpots left on.
They're leaving the crock pot on, go to the show, come back, ox tail ray.
Falling off the bone.
That's what the aunties do.
They know how to time brandy concert.
Yeah.
They off of work the next day too.
I think I might go to that.
I want to go.
Randy Monica?
I got to see that.
With Kelly Rowland and Coco Jones.
That's crazy.
I don't think I've ever seen Brandy live.
Neither why.
I don't think I've seen anyone on that.
that list live maybe Coco Jones i think i've seen monica i've seen her somewhere somebody brought
out on the set but i've never seen brandy uh sing live i want to hear brandy sing folded when
brandy get up there sing folded by caylani i'm gonna melt into the floor she's on official
remixed today she's um so calani is releasing an epi full of folded remixes brandy will have one
tony braxton mario and i'm missing somebody jojo will also is also repeat
remix in it. So it's going to be an EP of Kaylani remixes.
That's interesting. Yeah. Like putting out an EP of the same song, but just like...
But they're redone kind of. So like Tony Braxton's is called Unfolded, which is kind of
switches the purpose of the song. Brandy, you know, she's doing all her vocal layer. And I can't
wait to hear the way Jojo flips hers. It's going to be amazing. I just saw Tank release something
yesterday. I think it was Get Folded. You know Tang got to get it. He got to make it horny.
You know Teng just be horny. You know. Tain just be horny. You
You know Tank be horny.
You know, mean, he's still in the gym.
He don't mean he just come out, testosterone.
Oh, damn.
Like, turn the mic on.
I'm horny.
Like, that's what Tank do, that's what?
Pause, who's horny here?
Brian McKnight or Tank.
That's a wild versus.
Nah, Tank, I'm gonna tell you why.
And I fuck a tank is the homie, but take.
I'll show you how to make your pussy work.
Yeah, but that's just talk.
Take, didn't take before him at a gay cruise or something like that?
Yo, that's, that sounds tankish.
It don't get hornyer than being that.
heterosexual and be like, you know what, I'm going to gay crews and get my balls off.
Isn't that the opposite of horny if you heterosexual?
No, because it's like, you know, it's like, you know, nobody's hornier than gay men.
First of all, nobody's horny than men.
So imagine gay men.
Okay.
Never have their period.
So it's not, they can't say not tonight.
It can't do nothing.
It's true.
Yeah.
They're always ready.
Mm-hmm.
Tank went and performed for the gays.
Yeah.
All right, so Tank treated the cruise like prison.
Like it doesn't count if it's here.
Okay, so it wasn't a cruise.
The boat was dock.
Yo, making the, make it up in the cruise part is fucking killing me.
I thought it was a cruise.
I thought they said take was on a gay cruise or something like that.
But he performed at an LGBT
Pride event.
Oh, well, I mean, it's events.
So that means he was booked.
Oh, for sure.
It's not one.
It says events.
That's plural.
Yeah, you got to perform a few times.
You got to do like pain steps.
You got to perform for the L's, the G's, the Bs.
I don't think they segregate the boat.
Oh, okay.
The Ls are in this hall.
Okay.
All right.
Because then the Bs is just everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I definitely want to be all access.
It was weird?
DC and Dallas.
Oh, DC for show.
DC, it was, ooh, that's gay heaven.
Man.
DC, I think all gays want to die and go to D.C.
Well, the ones that want a high to go to Atlanta.
Or Miami.
Miami's big gay capital?
Like a big gay population too?
They got a big, yeah, they got surrounding neighborhoods that are all like gay people.
Surrounded neighborhoods is funny.
Surrounding.
Like it's white, like it's white.
Like, yo.
Like it's redlining.
They don't let them like, oh, shit, but like,
they pushed them out to like,
for a load of that.
Surreounding the areas.
I'm for real.
Let me tell you.
It was their GI Bill after World War II.
Maybe they pull up the surrounding areas.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You hit Josh for allotted down.
How do you know that?
Josh.
Your dad is a forlorder?
Listen.
Wilton, Wilton Manors
often called Florida's gay capital.
and the vibrant city of Fort Lauderdale, which is, which they're nearby.
I know, I literally was on the phone with a friend and he was like,
yo, it's mad gay people skating around my hotel.
Yo, it's mad gay people skating around my hotel.
Yo, you know how funny is.
Not knowing where you at and then you walk out your hotel.
There's a lot of people on rollerblades.
For real, that's what he was like.
He was like, there's like a lot of gay people around.
And I was like, I never knew that.
So I looked, I looked it up and I was like, oh, you're in like the gay capital of like Florida.
I never knew that.
Yeah.
Had no idea.
Damn, man.
You know, New York, like we lost.
Wilden Man is like West Hollywood.
Yeah.
I never knew that.
Oh, they have a gay village.
I feel like it's one in every city.
Yeah.
Like, it's like a, it's like a Soho village in every major city.
Yeah, at this point for sure.
And then there's like Portland, which is like extra extra.
Like Portland is probably what that place in Florida thinks.
it is at this point. Okay. And I mean, shit, New York, we lost hip hop. We've lost the best restaurants.
And we lost the gays. Like, we used to be the gay capital too. How do we like we, like, we
restaurants. I feel like you can now get good food everywhere. Like, the allure of New York food wise.
I go to Vegas and get the same. I was going to say Vegas has like, Vegas is like known for having
really good restaurants now. Vegas is just a fucking carbon copy of every major city in the world.
Yeah. You go to Vegas and think you in Paris. Like, but they'll spend the money to get it right.
Like the New York restaurants in Vegas tastes exactly like New York restaurants.
I don't know, man.
I still think New York.
In Chicago, they say Chicago has amazing food.
New York, Chicago has great restaurants as well.
But I still think New York is the capital of restaurants.
Like, you can get good pizza almost anywhere now.
Y'all say that until you go somewhere and order pizza and be like.
His ass.
Yeah, I don't think you could just get good pizza anywhere.
I can get a good.
I'm a pizza snob, though, so I'm a little different.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
You get it's a pizza snob.
I'm a pizza snob.
I know good pizza.
people, but I could add good pizza. I could, as soon as you bring it out the oven, I could tell,
it ain't enough cheese on that, the crust is too thick. Like, you, I could just look at it
and tell. New York up, like, per square mile, you can get a good slice where you can't do that
in any other city. But if you just, like, rival the best in New York versus the best somewhere
else, it's not going to be that far off anymore. Like, yeah, they've learned, I don't know if it's
the internet, like, they've just learned. Like, you can literally roller skate with a gay and get a
good slice in any city in America now, where that was strictly just a West Village thing. I love
when you go out of town and you pass a pizza spot and it's called New York pizza.
Uh-huh.
It's like, nigga, this ain't New York.
I don't care what your name.
This is ain't New York Pizza.
Like, New York Fried Chicken is in every city now.
What is New York Fried chicken?
I've never heard no New York Fried.
What the hell is that?
It's like just the chicken spot.
Oh, you're talking about like.
They have a bunch in Baltimore.
Kansas fried, Kennedy fried, all of those.
Yeah.
Like, shit, everywhere in D.C., New York fried chicken.
Like, it says it everywhere.
That's weird.
Yeah, I don't want New York Fried Chicken.
Me either.
Yeah, that's really not that good.
Yeah, I'm cool.
I mean, I don't even know how we got on.
How do we go from cash money to no limit to gays roller skating in Florida?
Oh, Tank.
Yes.
That's a great.
That's a great bag, though.
Like, as a heterosexual man, performing and singing R&B at the LGBTQ plus event.
And looking to where he looked.
Yeah.
No, Tank did numbers.
You said, what beat?
What does that mean?
Because I said, Tank looking the way he looked.
Tank is attractive enough that even gays will find him attractive.
Like, he's attractive.
He's in shape of like.
Yeah.
No, Tank doesn't look gay, but Tank is so fine that even gay men will find him attractive and they hard to please.
And they hard to please.
They are probably the biggest critics we have.
Gay men?
Yeah.
Respectfully.
Yeah, I would say they're the highest critic.
Okay.
Women only care about gay compliments.
They don't care about us.
Well, women are gay, so that's that.
Saying that's that.
Just saying they are.
Yeah, that just ends that combo.
Yeah, they are.
Women are gay.
I like it, though.
Well, anyways, yes.
ComplexCon will be streaming this.
I will be signing up.
I did see that.
I'm going to watch because I'm just interested to see how they're going to pull us off.
For sure.
But I'm nervous.
I don't know if this is that, Peach.
I don't know if this is that.
This is that.
I don't know if we want to do that for this.
Was it the Kirk Franklin?
What was the one that they had, like, technical issues and we all watched for like three hours and then they just rescheduled it?
Babyface, I think.
There's any baby face and Teddy Riley?
Yeah, I think that was it.
It was one of like the first performance.
Babyface was throwing so much shade.
Yeah.
I think this one is going to be that.
We'll reschedule to a later date that never gets rescheduled.
Yeah, I'm nervous, but it is, it is exciting to see cash money versus no limit anywhere.
So hopefully they put together a great show.
Either way, we will be tuned in for that one.
And I hope Master P gets his flowers.
He doesn't get him already?
I don't think he gets enough.
I think a lot of like the moguls, not just in hip hop, but moguls period that we revere and talk about often.
MasterP is what a lot of people think those moguls are.
Like MasterP is really direct to consumer.
For sure.
Like out the trunk to multi-millionaire status.
Without a dough.
And I always like Master P's joints, man.
I know he got a lot of flack for not being the greatest rapper, but I mean, I got the hookup.
Holly, if you hear me, he was one of my favorites back in the day.
He was one of my favorites here, Roy.
He was one of my favorites back in the day.
You didn't say, uh?
Definitely.
Absolutely.
He told Solange that was his war cry and I almost cried.
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