New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 11/3

Episode Date: November 9, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal, Beyonce was so dominant she made the Grammy's create a new country category, Rory gives his take on the Billboard Hot 100 changing their rules, Demaris gives advice on how to date when everyone gives you the ick, and Ms. Pat stops by to play therapist. #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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grammies will announce nominations next week following bionc's historic win as the first black woman to win best country album the category has been retired and split into two best contemporary country album in parentheses black dominated and best traditional country album in parentheses white dominate more segregation I'm sure the Grammys didn't put black dominated and white dominated in parentheses this is more segregation this is from pop fusion yeah keep that contemporary country shit over there you don't even wear Wranglers I don't know nothing about Wranglers in a Ford Bronco you don't know Brett Farves volleyball yeah you don't know

you never been to a game keep that contemporary country shit over there don't come over here with Johnny Cash and you niggas ain't Johnny Cash all right do we think that cowboy Carter would have been in contemporary country album this year if the years were switched of course it would have what about that is a contemporary country I don't even know that's not what about it's a country album it's that is traditional country album she went out of her way to make a traditional country album this is just more like just bullshit with the music industry and yeah like shabuzzi has experimented and i could see that type of stuff but i mean we know what this is of course we do black country artists are are smoking y'all so we got to

split it up we got to split it up it's not gonna be fair here we come taking back our sound first of we gotta get into that we got it's our music so you don't find it funny when maga says we need to take back our country yeah i do find that funny it was never y'all to begin with very funny yeah but this is that's what this is it's like come on man cut the shit bro like it's 2025 let's just just all be honest like it's okay like i just think that everybody kind of like it's you know trying to walk on eggshells just have the conversation contemporary country album um okay i do i know why they did this and it's a direct response to what happened with bioncé absolutely with that said i do like that they have split up categories within rmb and other genres like i like that there's a

traditional R&B category. I like that there's a contemporary R&B alternative art. Like, I like that they're doing subgenres because it does give artists that don't make, you know, the highest form of R&B right now gives them a chance to be recognized. Now, I know that's not what they're doing here. No. But I do like the contemporary categories in a lot of other genres. Matter of fact, I think rap should be split up in subgenres for Grammys. I don't think it should just be a rap album of the year. It definitely needs to be. I like, I think it's, great that like you know Gibbs and alchemists are nominated royce gets like i think all that shit is great but some years it's like the real what should be a rap album isn't even nominated

so i do think these subcategories are cool like i'm not mad at i just know what this one is this is the whites being upset that's what that is if this was if this if this happened before bianci's album yep i'd be i'd be like all right cool like okay you cool they're trying to you know make sure everybody kind of gets recognition they understand that you know the sound the music changes artists come in and you know create a different type of sound like we okay we understand it but this coming off of the win yeah it's just blatant in your face like all right man like we get it like in case bioncé decides to make another country album she's gonna dominate again and then you

know like yeah I mean just to have the conversation man like I don't know how much longer we got to you know try to sit and act like we don't know what this is. And it's just like, you know, it's first of what's unfortunate that we even still have to do shit or feel like we have to do shit like this. But like, what are you going to do, man? They added progressive R&B album,

which I think is cool. Like, to me, those categories work. But you might as well just say urban, urban country. And urban country. And real country. Urban country. Real country. Like, just just say.

what it is at this point or add more subcategories than just two because country has a a bunch of different like the shit that wins is usually pop country it's not like country country like just because someone talks about a fucking golden retriever a pickup truck and radio that's a pop record dog yeah urban country in this country country with a k country definitely with a k absolutely um but i'm i'm curious to see what what nominations are looking like this year for sure i mean we'll cover it next week uh once they actually come out but rap should be really interesting this year r&b should be really interesting this year should it be interesting i think leon thomas is going to clean up everything but that's just

my opinion hopefully you had a great album yeah and i think mutt will clear up singles as well yeah i don't know man might have might have to compete with folded folded might come through a crush the building about the ass folded is is one of those did and folded made it in time right is shit yeah it had that August I believe the deadline was August beginning of September Folded I think made it right there yeah no folded is crazy um yeah but a folding name mutt though much is it came out like everything came out right after the last grammy deadline June 11 we saw a dominance of a full year of mutt that's why I feel like it's a cleanup 11th his one folded came out okay oh yeah all right cool well yeah i like that record though folded

folded it got so crazy that everybody you know many people went and just made a remix she didn't ask these brandy fucking brandy tony braxton tank mario plice have all made folded folded Folded remixes. Neo. Just volunteer was like, I want a folded remix. That's how, like, big that song would become.

Dixon roll folded. Fire. Don't quote me. Really? He did. Yeah, I'm. Kaylani Dixon. There's a couple other people,

Donovan Knight, Andre Harris, DeWitt Wilson, Christopher Riddick Tines, Milosh, Angelove. Yeah, that record is, Oh, baby, dude.

Incredible. Milosh. The guy that did my massage. It's the same guy. Multi-facivation. He performed on the boat and then rub my hand. I love that, though. When you go on like a vacation and the guy that works like at the restaurant is like Michael Jackson at night, that's the best shit.

That's my man right there. That's what I was telling the PR people. I was like, yo, the way they do Michael Jackson and Elvis, like if you need me to do Paul Wall, I can do Paul Wall. You just got to pay for my grill. Oh my God. But on Music and Leon Thomas, we left out the folks EP album, I don't know whatever it was called that Leon just put out on October 24th. Did you listen to folks?

Yeah. Leon has not fucking missed in three projects straight. That came out last week, right? October 24th. Yeah. My muse, incredible, like, I didn't think he could even top the not fair record off the Deluxe of Mutt. And listen, man, I can't say enough.

I think he's going to clean up. But Folda deserves all the credit, period. Yeah, now I know Dixon wrote that, yeah. I like to see that one. I think for that, that deluxe, because Foldie was on the deluxe, right? Demaris of Kaylani's album? I don't even think, no. I think she just dropped.

Bolded was just a single. Because Dixon was on two records on the deluxe as a feature outside of just producing. Yeah, they've been working for a while now. And everything that Kaylani and Dixon do together. Yeah. I love seeing Kaylani get like have this moment, though. Me too. She's been dope for so many years. Like, it's as good to see Kaylani like finally being spoken about like everywhere. Like everybody's in tune with everybody's listening to her. When I was at one music fest, Kaylani performed. And I was of course like in heaven, but I've been a Kaylani fan. I hate being those people that's like, I've been in Kalani for. So I've been a Kalani fan for over 10 years. So when I was, she was performing older songs and I'm screaming to the top of my lungs and I'm looking around. And I have a video where my drunk ass is like, I'm like,

Y'all folded fans. These ain't Kailani fans. These folded fans. But at the same time, I'm happy that there are people that are now, they get to discover Kailani's beautiful catalog that he's had for years. And they're reading, like, they're hearing songs that I love for the first time. And like, that's like beautiful. I'm happy she's getting this moment, too. As a Kailani fan for 10 years as well, I think we forget that she was like 16 when she came out. Like, she's just coming into her own now as an artist. She came out when she was a child. Like we definitely didn't get the best of her music in the beginning because she was still she was a kid Yeah, and we still thought it was amazing. So I think we'll get better music from Kaylani in the second

half of her career than we did on the first because everything she's been doing has been incredible. Yeah. I saw this the Billboard Hot 100 tweaks his rules along with the Grammys. You know everything is scrambling. Yeah, we waited to talk about this till you got here because we knew you wanted to nerd out. Um, I mean, there's there's not much nerding out that I want to to do on this. I mean, we can give a quick rundown. Effective this week, if a song drops below number five after 78 weeks, it's removed, if a song drops below number 10 after 52 weeks, it's removed, and so on and so forth. I think this along with what's going on with Spotify, what's going on with radio, which you guys didn't believe me about, everyone is scrambling to change everything because

everything is about to change. Bots have ruined everything. Everything needs to switch up in billboard, labels, DSPs. Everyone is getting ahead of everything. We're changing rules. Okay. We're changing rules. Are they changing the way artists are paid out? Or is that going to remain the same? Exactly.

I'm with you on the everybody's scrambling. I also think that Billboard, I think that this makes things a little bit fair. And I think the reason why Billboard did this is, I don't think that's that big of a conspiracy. There are some songs that are so well loved that they will stay on the charts for years. Yeah, absolutely. if you and it doesn't make room for other artists to enter into those smaller spots especially if an icon dies and your song can't get to number one you cool i'm fine yeah i'm not

okay i get it i'm not okay no i'm not i'm not okay um no i hear you and i think this does make things much more fair but i think with all the rules changing there there's a specific reason for it this being one of them that i agree with like even but again like i think Teddy swims, lose control, deserved to be on the billboard as long as it was. It's an incredible record and it kept streaming fairly. Yes, but I mean, but we get it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, because, okay, so if the billboard was getting you, if you were being paid every week for being on billboard, then that makes sense because then you're taking food out of their pot out of their mouths.

But if it's just like, okay, we get it. You've been number one for such and such many weeks. After 200 weeks, like, it's fine. Okay, you were on the charts for 200 weeks. kick him the fuck off and let somebody else come on. Like it's that's insane. Um, I don't know. I mean, to me again, if you're taking away any, and I don't even want to say bots because when it was CDs, let's not act like even universal Def Jam cash money. Everyone has admitted they were buying hundreds of thousands of CDs to make sure they got to number one. Like this isn't a new thing.

It's just now it's it's bots because it's tech. Yeah. I do think if, If it's fair, why shouldn't the one that's streaming the most stay there? I don't think that's a bad thing. Like as much as annoying as it was that the Spurs were in the fucking finals every year or the Patriots were in the Super Bowl every year or the Kansas City Chiefs have been there, like, we're about to do what the NBA did and block the Chris Paul deal because that's fucked up. Like if this is how the system is set up, why, what's wrong with that? They're fairly doing it.

pissed if they told Tom Brady, yo, you're too good. No more Super Bowls for you, bro. But you're not fucked up that is? That's completely different because a Super Bowl is such a huge moment. They're not saying they're removing number one. But it's not, they're not removing number ones. That's not the rule. That's not the rule.

The rule is the motherfuckers that's over there sitting at 97 for five years. They can go. Like you see what I'm saying? Like that's it. They're not taking people from number one or number two or number three or number four or number five okay but i'm saying to all right let me let me let me not yeah but do you want to be the artist that enters the billboard because they removed somebody that was just like stagnant like oh i got in because they took home me off yeah make better music no no because it's because

no it's not about you making bad music it has nothing to do with that because we all know when taylor swift releases a fucking album she knocks like 10 people off because her entire album is going to go to slots number one through 10 that doesn't and it's gonna stay there for a while so the people who are inching in and inching in you said what it's good music no i know i i hear what you're saying is fucked up and i won't use the tom brady thing because again it's not the number one but like okay that'd be like mike vrable you can't go to the super bowl this year like you're not the best player but you're in five super bowls and you play really well robert ori can't get a ring and just stay at number 78 on the billboard charts like if i'm there for a hundred weeks he has a stat for me

That's cool that I stayed in the Billboard Hot 100. That's a stat for an artist. But do you know that? Just because you're not number one, the Hot 100 is like a thing for an artist. Absolutely. But it's not like he hit the Hot 100. Like, oh my God. It's not like he's climbing.

Right? Like, for example, we just spoke about Folded. Shout out to Fold it just hit number seven on the Billboard charts, right? Folded is climbing. It's been there for a little while, but it's climbing. That record is not number one? No, it didn't go number one. I think y'all, like, misunderstood.

like records don't be going number one i don't know i feel like me and you have this issue a lot record a lot of the records that we love don't go number one teddy swims losing control just left the top 10 and i believe that came out two years ago wow through the taylor swift thing through everything i thought folded with number one no no and i mean i get it you have to adjust because of streaming because that can keep things weekly outside of album sales and like there wasn't song sales the way it was before it's iTunes charts. We all know the bigger the artist and the bigger the label and the more money that is behind them, you can get playlisted. Playlisted is going to keep you on the billboard charts longer.

That doesn't mean that you have a better song or it means that you have access to more money and more funding. So it's not make better music. It's they're going to make sure that Taylor Swift or Drake or Kendrick or all of these people are on all of these fucking playlist. So yes, their songs are going to stay longer because people who are discovering them or listening to them sometimes against their will. Are you seeing what I'm saying? Whereas you might have a small artist that's right there, right there. It's okay to take Taylor's song off that's been on that bitch for 100. It's been okay to take Teddy Swims off or Benson Boone's.

It's okay. It's a socialism. They hit, no, it's not because you hit number one or you hit where you were going to hit. You hit your peak. You don't drop down. You don't drop down. And now it's time for other people to get the chance. you have the accolade. Nobody's taking the accolade from you. No, nothing. They said after 78 weeks,

bro, do y'all fucking long 78 weeks is? If it's fair, it's fine with me. Again, I think they're scrambling to change the rules in everything because I'm not saying anything specific to Kendrick or Drake as far as bots. But I think the bot thing has gotten so far out of control for every single artist signed to a major that everyone is changing the rules in the midst of them being caught doing it. Yeah, this is cool. But it's, It's not like, it's an asterisk on Roger Marrits hitting 61 home runs because he had an extra few games. Like we're putting it. So Taylor still gets the accolade, but someone else's name gets to be put there.

Like, this is a participation trophy to me. Like this is the real world. If it's fair, she should stay there. If it's fair. It's never going to be fair. So why are we talking about if? It's never going to be fair. They're trying to make it fair.

Of course they're fair. Artists are majors and with money will always have access to more resources. It's never going to be completely fair. The music industry will never be fair. but this makes it a little bit more fair. They're trying to make it look like they trying to make it fair. Like, okay, let's make it fair.

But I don't think much is going to change as a result of this. I don't, honestly. Yeah. I don't think much is going to change. Just being honest. I think we'll see maybe, you know, a couple new songs hit that top 100

that deserve to be there, but they might not have access to the resources. I mean, listen, if you have, if you're in the top 10 for a year, that's crazy. That's what I was saying. after Teddy Swims was there for almost two years like yeah if you drop to number 11 after a year cool we should be removed but like I don't know that's still fucked up like if my shit is streaming

fairly that way why you take me off my yeah yeah this is capitalism versus socialism i don't even think that honestly i don't even think the people who i think once you've been on spotify for it i mean you've been on the billboard charts for a year i don't even think them artists is really like hey you took me down like i really wanted it to be a year in three months like i don't think they give a fuck i was on there for a year i had that talking point. I mean, if you any and if you like me, I don't give a fuck where they at on the charts. I don't even check for that type of shit. If the music is good, I'm listening. Well, the artist cares because that's something. It helps me get in them money. Yeah, like the artists obviously

care, but I mean, fans, I mean, I don't, we don't give a fuck about, well, let me say I don't give a fuck about any of this shit. Okay, then what does that do to the Billboard Awards? You watch that? No, I've always said it was one of the most pointless award shows because you can just go on the internet and see who wins. Like, it's not. Like, it's like, I got a televised. I can literally just check every week on who's going to win. But also, I think, yeah, this only really affects artists and Stan accounts that are doing shit like who was on Vogue for the first time. This is all kind of weird to me because it's not physical CDs.

This is effective as of right now. Yeah. All right, well, let's pay close attention than the next year and see if we notice any changes. I caught the... Les Taylor. I caught the meltdown to some degree over the last week. I'm not sure if you guys touched fully upon it of the no rap songs are in the top 40 Billboard,

Hot 100 for the first time since 1990. But there is one in the top 50. They just, you know, they cut it at 40, just because it reads better. Okay, gosh. There's a rap song number 50. Well, it should be removed. I think it's big extra plug.

I think he's number 50. How long has it been there? Because I think it should get the fuck out of there. Well, I don't know. I don't know how many weeks he's been here, but I think he is number 50. I don't know. I don't have like the same meltdown that I saw all of our media peers have. Like I don't think this matters that much. Oh no, it matters. To the artists, it matters. To us, we don't give a fuck. To the artist, to rappers, this definitely matters. One thousand percent. But you're saying on like the superstar side or or what? Like, yeah. Yeah. Labels are not they're not, because this is all just labels not putting money behind.

rap songs. It's all this is. It's not like people didn't put out good rap songs. The labels are not putting the money behind these rap songs that they once were. So what does that mean for rappers? What does that mean between them and their labels? Are labels willing to put money behind them still or at all? How much are they putting behind it? Like, so yeah, the rappers care 1,000% because this is directly affects them in their business with the labels. And they should care if they're getting removed after. No, that's a lot of. They do, the artists care. The fans, we don't care.

We don't look at this. NBA Young Boy is number 43 with shot calling. And he's been on the charts for six weeks. So good for young boy. Big X the plugs, not on there? Big X the plug is number 50. Okay. With hell at night.

Okay. I mean, I don't know. I just think rap is in like a good place. Oh, the music? Yeah, yeah. Just about the business of it. Like there's been years since 1990 where it felt really fucking bad and they were still in the top 40.

Oh no. For sure, for sure. But I mean, I guess does that just prove that Billboard doesn't mean much if the point is their labels aren't putting money behind those records, which the money that the label puts behind, the artist is just going to have to owe back anyways. It's not like the labels giving them a good gesture push. The money they'd have to put up to get on Billboard, they have to owe back. They have to pay back.

Yeah, so it's like, I don't know, I just, I didn't look at this like, it was over for hip-hop. No, no, no, no. It's definitely not over-up. I understand a few years ago it was the highest stream genre, which a big W for hip hop but I don't know it goes back to the superstar thing for me too yes labels are not investing as much in rap but there's also no superstars and I'm not saying that a label putting a bunch of money into an artist is going to make them a superstar no there just isn't superstars but like if Travis drops tomorrow yeah top 20 will be a whole Travis album scattered throughout the top 20

on billboard so no one's dropping like Yeah. That's of that stature. But I mean, I think shout out to Big X the plug and a young boy that they're up there. I think that whole just dropped singles thing is kind of backfired on the labels a bit. Because we see what the albums do for the charts

that matter to the labels and the artists. Like that's why they're changing the rules because Taylor's fucking there. Do the whole thing. When Drake dropped for all the dogs, wasn't fucking every record. When GNX came out, every fucking record was in the top 10. Like I think the labels kind of play themselves a bit of like, yo, we shouldn't do this fucking album thing.

Let's just, Cardi, just do one song a year. Like, no disrespect to Mike Karen strategy. No disrespect to Mike Karen. Like I just think that strategy, they're seeing the result of it. It didn't work in Billboard and streaming the way you guys thought it would when it comes to charts. If you care about the charts, they could not care. I don't know. But albums are the ones that are sticking to the point they got to change the fucking rules.

Just continue to make good music. Fuck the charge, fuck all that. I mean, I understand that is important to their business, but like, good, good music, great music, that always pierces through. That's what stands the test of time. I don't know what some of my favorite songs and favorite albums landed on the charge. I know that I love this fucking album. So, I mean.

Yeah. And I want to clarify, I'm sorry. Folded is at 14, not number seven. That was my mistake. I'm sorry. 14 is still crazy. That's its peak so far. Thank you for that, baby, dude.

No problem. Because they would have killed you for that. You know, they would have got you. Yeah, they'd kill me. So I just want them to kill them. Want to do my research. That's right. You're a journalist.

Whole op-ed. Yeah. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the fourth.

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Hi, guys. This is Josephine from Amsterdam. Also, I really appreciate the podcast. I feel like you guys should add Amsterdam on your tour dates. I would appreciate that. Josephine, I'm with you on that. I'll bring a few of my homies that also listen to you. Homies.

Come through. You're welcome, more than welcome. Thank you, Josephine. So this is kind of more towards the mirrors. I would like to hear the view of the guys as well, but, you know, I feel like the mirrors probably has some experience in this as well. So I've been single for three years. I did some healing after the relationship, which was needed. and now I'm putting myself out there again since I think a year, which is good.

But I just cannot get over the fact that there's so many losers in the world. And everybody just makes me cringe so much. And I don't know what to do about it. It's just crazy. I've been on many dates and I just see the flaws all the time. And I'm just like, ugh, just make me icky. So I don't know what to do about it. I would like to know if you have a tip for me or it's just why are there so many losers out here?

I just want to find a sign man who's like, cool and not so crinchy. Help me. Okay, thank you. I think this is a great question for Demaris because she was somebody that's on the block forever and now is in a happy relationship with a new person. Teach us how you get back out there when it's icky out there. I just feel like outside of my relationship, I've always just felt like this. I feel like everything happens when it's supposed to. That's with jobs.

That's with relationships. That's with friends. That's with life. If something is it coming to you, it's just not either you aren't mentally ready for it. It's not the time in your life for it. And higher powers want you to focus on something else. That's the worst advice to give someone when they're like, bro, can't find a job. Like, yo, just the time will come.

Like, you know, I need this shit now. You're the higher powers. But you saying I need it now. I agree with you. I mean, it's always a bad advice to someone that's going through something. But it's not bad advice because it's the truth. It's just not what you want to hear. Nobody ever wants to hear good advice.

They want to hear a magical solution to their problem. Well, maybe a different approach that you took that made the timing right when you met the person you're with now. I don't want to talk about that. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. I think getting back out there, unfortunately, is a volume game. I think you have to go out and date and, see the icks and just see what's out there.

If you go on two dates and it's like, ugh, that's gross, you're not going to really solve anything unless you keep getting back out there. Also, don't, the icks sometimes, I feel like sometimes we overthink icks. Like, sometimes we're just like, you got to have a little bit more patience for some things. A little bit more patience. Now, if something really makes you feel uncomfortable inside. Nobody has a better fourth quarter than baby D. I'm sorry.

Ninety and Jordan. Go ahead, baby, I'm sorry. There's going to be some things that make you feel, if something makes you feel uncomfortable inside, get the fuck out of there, right? Like, listen to your body and your intuition telling you things. But sometimes people are just doing things

that you aren't used to or they might live a different lifestyle than you're used to or they might have a different lingo that you're not used to. If you really, really want to find love, I'm never saying settle, but just be a little bit more open.

Be strict with your boundaries, but when it comes to their personality, be a little bit more open and willing to try new things. Same thing with food, with jobs, with anything. Like, you can't keep doing or dating the same thing that you always have because that obviously hasn't worked out for you. Right.

That mixed with also, sometimes the timing is just not right. You got to be patient. Yeah. Which sucks. Nobody wants to hear that, but that's the truth. Sometimes you have the wrong icks. You should have some icks with the last guy that you think you like. Why do you think the word settle gets such a negative connotation?

Like, why do you think that word? People settle there usually aren't happy. but is that the actual definition of that word or have we made it that? Like sometimes you have to settle on certain things to be in a happy relationship. Like you're not going to love everything about somebody. You have to settle on certain things. That's compromising. Settling and compromising are two totally different things.

Yeah, settling is more like, all right, well, I guess this is it. Yeah, this is our, this is a weird. Like, imagine you with your girl and you come on with this. She was like, well, guess this is it. What? Like, you know, we don't have to do this. Like, we can go out several ways. Yeah.

If that's the energy, if it's like, oh, well, this is, you know. But can you settle for something you love? Like, I'll settle for this, because I love this and what this is over going back outside and trying to find something that's unproven. Not settle. I choose this. Okay. Settle is like, if there's something else that comes along that I feel like is better than this, I'm out. That's the, that's the energy that settling has.

Like, yeah. And also, I'll take this for now. That that isn't sure. Like, yeah, like, you wouldn't, you wouldn't prefer this. And in a room. This is not what I would usually be doing. Like, you wouldn't, this isn't what you chose. But as soon as something that comes along that you deem to be what you, you know,

think is your ideal situation, person, whatever, you're out of there. Like, you're, you're out of that situation that you work currently in. And it happens. I mean, settle. And again, this is just the Western dictionary. It never hit y'all, like, months after you stopped dating somebody that they lied to you in your fake, told you some shit. Like, you'll never.

That shit don't ever just hit you randomly. Oh, for sure. You're being talking. You'd be like, that bitch was lying. Yeah. Some shit that you never even thought was lied. Like the way deja vu hit you, sometimes things, it's something in your brain like, is like, wait, hold on. That didn't make no kind.

You weren't even thinking about it. Yo, where was I. That didn't even make sense. Where was I had in life where that worked. Like, you know, what she told me? Because you had the blinders of belief. I feel like that might be a man thing. I don't, well.

Because women, I'll be thinking you lying from the jump. So I don't, I never have that come to Jesus moment because I was thinking that from the very beginning. Yo, it'd be hitting you at the most random. I think I was on, like, ordering some shit on fucking prime or something like that. It was at the checkout. And I was like, well, hold up. She told me what?

What do you think in your order? It sparked it. I have no idea, but it just hit me. And I was just like, I had to laugh. Like, that's crazy that that worked on me. Like, but you know. Resolve or reach an agreement about an argument or problem. I guess not there.

A place to stay. Hey. Sometimes you got to settle. Hey. Hey, sometimes squatting, some called settling. Sometimes you got to settle. Like, listen, man, some snaps ain't hitting. He, like, he treat me all right.

I'm just going to settle here. So in that way, settle is a positive thing. Yeah, it can be. Settle for shelter. I choose shelter over the park bench at night. I choose this man's warm home instead of the subway. Yeah. And then the third definition, which ironically for this month makes a lot of sense,

colonize. Now we're getting somewhere. You see? We were the settlers. Yeah, that's it. That's all. You got to just, that first word is very important. The Conkers,

rapist, slave owner. Settlers. We came here and settled. Brought the ships to the dock and settled. Settled down. And settled down. Settle down. Settle down.

Take this blanket. Yeah, settle in and settle down. It may have something on it. Yeah. Yeah, that's all. That's all you got to do. Hopefully, Josephine, we helped you with that. I don't think we did.

But maybe DeGay's one. Get back out there. I do think volume game, even if you've had some bad dates, that doesn't mean the next person you meet is going to be as bad. You have to get back out there. Even if it sucks, like, sit through a fucking Caesar salad and then just don't speak to them. Right.

Just, just. No. Go out with their friends, have fun, find something that's a hobby and be open to meeting people in the space that they're at. If something falls in your lap, something falls in your lap. You can date, but like, don't, don't, the volume game doesn't always. I'm not like saying serial date, like swipe right and go on a date every fucking night. I'm saying be open after.

having bad dates to still dating. Yes. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying date every night. Do we have another one or, uh, all right. Well, this was fun. Yes, this was great. Yeah.

This was a great post-election day. We go to win the Patreon. Great post-election day. Maul, did you, I mean, Rory, did you watch our, shit, Maul, did you watch our vlog? No, but I'm hearing good things about it. I haven't watched it yet. No, I do want to watch it. Yo, whenever I work hard on some shit, I need everybody.

office to watch it because I edited it. No, I'm really, it's on my to-do to watch. So now everybody got to watch it. Oh, you edited it? Yeah. I'm not watching that shit. It's going to be probably mad jump cuts. That's awful. No, the first one she did, we were in Vegas was great editing.

Like a fucking, like, like, he got closed captions on the fucking closed captions. No, I'll just play. I'm going to check it out though. Because I'm hearing good things. People seem to like it. And somebody was telling him, yo, you need to do that more, that shit. Shut up. No, it's like good.

They're the listeners tell you what they want more. No, I respect that. Yeah, I'm going to watch it though. We have fun though. We got to do one now. You and I can do one. I want to be a fly on the wall for just you and Peach for a vlog. Oh.

Like maybe. That's not going to make the airwaves. That's not going to make the airwaves. Me and Peach, you don't want me and peas to go somewhere and just kick it over a beer. No. Like you let me and Pete go kick it over beers. It's not going to make the, it's not going to leave the editing floor. It's not going to leave it.

while I haven't left. Man. Let's talk about it. Let's fucking, there we go. You got to sit down and talk when you don't like somebody. Sit right here and let's figure out why we don't like you. They did some cancelable shit in our one vlog. I thought about cutting it out. I'm like, but I can't. For me and Peach?

Mm-hmm. I'm gonna come. Wait, that's canceling because they were doing it. Our president said it. They were, I said, Peach asked me would I rather be blind or deaf? And I was like, deaf. I need to see. And then I said, oh, but damn if I'm deaf, he can't talk me through it. So that then they... Oh, I get the joke now.

Mother grim. I get, not get it now. I get the joke now. They're going to hell. All right. I'm sorry. Baby D. You're offending, Josh. I'm sorry. You're offending Josh. Stop it. Stop it right now. He's fucking teething over there. Seathing. Seathing. Seathing. Not teething. Why don't I say teething? Seathing. Why don't I say teething? What's teething? Oh, baby's He's teething. Josh is teeming. Yo, I got some frozen in the freezer for you from Amara.

Yeah, give one of the two toys. You know the toys with the little, the bumps on it because of the gums, the gums inch. So you gotta get. Oh my God. I can't. Oh, talk to you on. These white Democrats are teething. Be safe, be blessed.

I'm that, nigga. He's just gender. My, my, my. I'm not gender. I'm just a gender. I said gender or ginger? Oh, well, he is gender. We don't know his gender.

We don't know Josh's gender. Peace. You circumcised? Yes, I'm circumcised. Oh. Yeah, I'm circumcised. Okay. You circumside?

He's Irish. I think that's part of it. Irish Catholic, yeah. Oh, yeah, they bite y'all skin off. Yeah. At the church. Yeah. They cut our foreskin off and then they touch it.

Pretty much. That's what the Irish Catholics do. You all see. You know. They bite your skin. You remember that man You remember that priest? I'm lying

He was circumcised Them people And he was putting his mouth on them kids You remember that It was on you too He was putting his mouth on them Yeah There was that one

Shit, he was like Filipino It was like a Buddhist priest though That was grabbing the kids' tongues and shit Oh no he said No that was the dolly That was a Dalai Lama

Yeah he was grabbing the kids' tongue But one on was like biting on them Oh yeah I didn't see that Yeah I mean, that wasn't in my parish. Because you're Irish, right? I mean, you're Catholic. Irish, I was raised Irish Catholic.

Yeah, they do some weird things over at that church. See, they like the black church. Somebody has testified in the middle of the pastor. They back here fucking with these kids. That's what happened at the black church. You might get touched one or two times, but somebody going to tell on his ass. Well, they ain't going to let it go on.

Then you got to be on all that medications. Because, you know, they don't put black kids on all that. that medication. We crew that shit right there and there. Yeah, that's why you keep blinking your eye. Who touched you? You don't listen to the show. I don't listen to the show.

You've been touched. Yeah. Why is it every time we get a comedian on here, they ask me? I knew because you were blinking your eyes. I can tell you. I knew. Because he were blinking. You know, that's help.

Y'all don't know. That's a sign that he needs some help. I thought it was because I had nice eyelashes. No. When they be blinking like that, that means somebody messed up his equal liberty. His idolat has to take off. Yeah. Knock that shit right.

Who touch you? I mean, they're dead now. Well, who touch you? You want to tell his government name? No, who wasn't? Or her government name? It was a her? It was a man and a woman.

It was a wild day. At the same time? No, it was different times. At the church? No, it was never at the church. But they was affiliated for sure. Was they black or white? They was white, both.

Was he a part? priest? No, they weren't like part of the church. They was in your neighborhood? Yeah. Did you tell anybody? Years later. He didn't hold the audio. Oh, no, now we talk about it on the pot all the time. It's like a running joke. They just clowning. How was you? Six. It is going to not be a joke. Six and nine, I want to say. Six and nine? Yeah. Okay. It could be wrong. Did you tell how long? Did it go on for a while?

No, it was just, it was one and done. I wasn't that good. Well, you had to suck a dick. No, I didn't do that. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God I held out. But he may have batted my shit around. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of. I'm trying to see why he'd be blinking. Ms. Pat is genuinely concerned, but she not letting him answer. She just has another question. Because I can tell.

He got child molestation eyes. Finally. Everyone thinks this is me. Miss Pat, finally I'm being seen. I appreciate you. Because at one point, I couldn't talk about it. I bet too.

So what did they do? I mean, I'm not going to like getting the full detail. I will say, though, once I started talking about it on the show, you felt bad. Yeah, for sure. I picked my pops up in Staten Island, New York, and he had caught up on some episodes. He was like, he was touched.

I was like, look out of your pop, man. I've been trying to tell you this for 30 fucking years. Did the lady? make you suck a titty? Or she did too? Yeah. And I thought it was cool, but I felt uncomfortable.

Oh, my God, man. You didn't eat it, bitch. No, man. I didn't. I didn't. I'm sorry. This is hilarious. You might have to bleak hair.

I'm so sorry. I'm fine with keeping off, by the way. This is better than when I went to therapy. This is better. She's genuinely concerned. I know. No, I know she cares. Because I was touched.

So, I'm just asking. And you know the great part about no matter what you've been through in life, when you can laugh about it. That means you have control of it. And I'm not trying to be a mean person, but I could tell something that happened to him because he don't have no controls on his eyelids. So I'm like, what is going on with him? No, you don't understand.

I've been to years that every. This is the best I felt. Yes. She was like, oh, all right, I see it. Yeah, because I was like, I think he's been molested. That's what I said to myself. And that's why I asked you, you know. But, I mean, you're over it.

Now I'm over. Oh, yeah. I mean, my mom and boyfriend molested me. I can't ride in El Camino. Thank God they don't make him no more. Yeah. I went to... You're so fucking stupid.

He's just laughing at everything. No, but this is what they do to me. We have IG clips of him laughing and being touched. Like, the fact that you just adding to it is making him laugh more. Because we're laughing together, right? Yes. What is that. I can't ride it up.

I'm fucking causal, spooky to me. You ever been molested in a one-seater? That bitch ain't got but one-seat. You can't go nowhere. You can hardly lay down. I should have known. I had no choice. I'm fucking wrong with him.

Yeah. Most kids get molested in a pickup trunk or two-seat. Stop. A one-seater. But I'm glad you're talking about it. Oh, yeah. And I'm sorry to happen to you. Yeah.

I'm glad you didn't turn the other way. Oh, my God. No, I've been talking about it for years. And I ended up just a few years ago and going into couples therapy. And you know in therapy, that's like the first fucking question. Who was touched?

I was like, I'm trying to talk about this crazy bitch. I'm over that. Like, I don't care about what happened then. Can we please talk about what's going on now? So, no, I'm happy I can laugh about it. Do that affect your relationships? Yeah, probably. Do you ever do, do you ever in a sexual move and then somehow that old or lady titty

popping your head and you can't finish sucking the titty? Maybe. It wasn't an attractive titty for the flashes that I have during the entire thing. Was it a long titty? Was it a long titty? A short titty. Oh, they were. How was she?

I was like nine. I would guess. If our titty was. Along, she had to be in her 40s. 40s for sure. Yeah, because 30s still hold up. I mean, then there was one time with a babysitter, but, like, I was an active participant. It would be technically molestation.

Mm-hmm. But I was fine with it. The babysitter was white? Yes, she was white. Family member, too, but not, like, a direct family. You fuck your cousin? No, I'm not fucked a cousin. You said it was a family member.

But, like, you know, like family, like neighborhood family, not like, not blood. Friend of the family. Queens. Oh, I didn't know they get down like that up here. Oh, for sure. That's something like some Alabama shit. You get it? I'm sorry.

Maybe I thought it were Alabama because she's white. I had no idea. It was up here. I'm sorry. She think Rory is like redneck white. This niggas from New York. He's from the hood. Like, he's from my cousins and long titties and prat pals.

You know, I'm thinking of. Isn't that long titties and family friends? No, I'm just saying. It sounded like the South shit. No, not at all. But somebody we considered like family friend type shit. But she was... Have you seen her?

No, I haven't seen her in a long, long time. Oh, okay. I didn't even consider that me losing my virginity. Because I considered me losing my virginity when I was 14 because I was probably... Who you lost you with? No wonder you like black pussy. So much white pussy, they took you... Yeah, you know what?

I've never even gone down that path. Yeah, well, they all forced it on you, so it turned you off. And now that I think about it, like when I was growing up, the nicest people to me were black women. This is actually more therapy than I think I've ever gotten. I've never even put those two and two together. You can write me a check. You keep on some of how good this shit. Ms. Pat settles it.

There you go. Oh, I never even put two and two together then. Yeah, so that's probably why you attracted to black people and black women because every time you're... Oh, no. I mean, you didn't tell them by it. I was my man Alex was like, yo, you know what the fuck just happened? But black people didn't molest you. No, I was never molested by a black person.

Just a wild sentence to say. That's just a crazy sentence to say. No black person never molested me. So that's why you like black women because white women threw it on you. So you were like, you took my dick. Yeah, they took your dick. So you don't want no part of them. Hmm.

Yeah. I never even put it. It's funny. but she makes a good point. Yeah. I'm not even joking around. That might be the most fair point. Yeah.

I never thought about it. Maybe they was right. I do have a fetish. Maybe. A fetish with what? That's always been a weird joke on Twitter. Which I don't. They say that he fetishizes black women.

But every time I brought up like how black women took care of me as a kid, like it's always, it's never been a sexual. What you mean they took care of you? You have a nanny? No. I've lived with a Jamaica family when I was fucking homeless. Oh, okay. Oh, you. Oh, you.

Oh, you. Oh, you want to. them eminemes. You ain't no barren Trump, but you are eminem. The next season for Miss Pattinson. My shit got batted around. I had to get out the house. I had to run away.

Bless your little hard. I'm glad you're doing good. I really am. I'm glad you're doing good, Roe. My eyes are still batting. I don't know if I am. Well, it slowed down since we got that out. Yeah.

I feel better now. Yeah. I feel like I've been seen. His eyes slowed down, Mr. Pat? Yeah, he won't. I thought he had Tourette's earlier. I was that fuck wrong with his eyes. But I could tell that was trauma behind his pupil.

Oh, shit. Yeah. Anyways. This Pat is fucking crazy. You weren't one of the lucky ones. Oh, my God. What you mean? Lucky ones?

I mean, he's the only one on the couch that hasn't been molested. Yes, no. You haven't been molested? Got us to the top. Oh. Never. Okay. But I did read your story about.

It ain't fun. Well, no, I mean, you know, we're laughing about it, and that's great that we can. But no, it's nothing fun about that. But that is the greatest read. I think Roy has ever gotten in his life. I don't know how you figured all of that out just by him blinking his eyes.

I'm a black mama. We know shit. You know how you bring a woman home with your mom be like, hey, let me tell you, that's a hole right down. Oh, yeah. You know, out of my house. A black mama can tell, hmm, that bitch got an STD.

We can tell you right out the, we can tell you read out the fucking man. You ain't got anything right. Yeah. I think that is something that I think protecting me growing up. Is that having a strong black mom? Yeah. Definitely. Because I'm saying because my mother was white. That's why I was touched. You know, like you've met my mother a million times. I love you mom. Great woman. I'm not trying to Well, let me say this. We're culturally different. So when you're white, I think it's more free. You know, like you don't have to have that talk. Nobody told you, don't you go out of that

door. When you go out of that door, you make black, black kids go out of the door and they say, make sure your drawers are clean in case you get hit by a car. We always were told that. I don't know why clean underwear is important if a nigga don't drug you 30 miles down the street. Never mind, my leg is shattered. But like, my girls are queen.

So we... He's nasty a stroke. My leg is ripped off. Black parents always had to have a conversation with their child. And white parents have never had to have those conversations with the police. Don't do this.

Don't do this. Look over your shoulder. Pay attention. So it's just different. It doesn't make your mama weak. it's just the things that you, that y'all had to endure, that we had to endure that y'all didn't have to endure. So your life was a little more like a flower.

Ooh, do what I want to do. Where he was, well, his mom's, so let me talk to you, little John. You take your ass out of his door, you look both way. Anybody touch your drawers, you tell me, because I'm a killer nigger for sucking on you. So that's what a black parent said me. Anybody touch you, I kill them.

Yeah. And when I first got married to my husband, I used to tell my daughter, because that's not his daddy. I said, let me tell you something. If this man ever touch you, I want y'all, to know that I would love, I love y'all way more than I love him. I kill his ass because I had been molest. And every day I gave my kids a child molestation story on the way to school.

I said, if he touch you, I would kill him. So finally my daughter was in the eighth grade, she said, Mama, the man ain't going to touch me. It's been five years. And I stopped asking. But I had to let her know, you know, anybody touch you, especially out of move this man into, moved up to the house with this man. I know him, but you really never know a person.

So that's the talk I had to have with my kids and my son. I mean, because people digging booties. So I had to make sure nobody were going to be digging in my sons. Yeah, that is something that I'm like getting older, having talks with women. Like I never realized how many women actually experienced that in their home. Yes. And I don't think that's a racial thing at all. I think that's a racial thing at all.

No. What I'm saying is I think with black families, we have the conversation more. Mm-hmm. Where, you know, we used to sit the kids down and say whatever. where, you know, a lot of times with white people, y'all ain't like it don't exist to it exist. Yeah, I mean, I can only speak for my family, and the more I learned once I started having those conversations

with my mom and what she went through, I was like, we allowed him around? Yes. So I see what you said. I'm not going to speak. I'm not speaking for all whites, but I can speak from my family in that regard. Once I learned more, I was like, why you let him.

Well, see, he was there every holiday. And he did that. But the thing was, okay, so when you have a child molester in the family and your uncle is a child molest, So the black fellow tell you, look here, your uncle be touching kids. So don't go over that fucking with that nigga. Okay, stay away from Uncle John or Uncle whatever.

We told that before we go to the barbecue. Can he come to the barbecue? Yes. But everybody going to be watching his head. Everybody know what he do. And we're going to tell them kids, if he touch you, we're going to kill him. So all the kids know, he'll child molester. Chester, Chester, Chester the molester.

So we stayed away from it. We put that on a house on our block. I have no idea to this day if it was, he never touched anybody in the neighborhood. It was just the house that was, and everyone would say Chesa and Malester lives there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it was just like a kid thing. That would definitely.

Where is Chesa and molester? I didn't know that was a universal thing. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So I think that's a culture different is that African, black people say it out loud. And other cultures. But either way, everybody's getting touched.

So, I mean, I think the verbal conversation we're having is not. I think every, molestation is in every race. Like, I was just talking about that movie on, what's the name of that movie? Adducted in plain sight. You ever seen that? Yeah. That was the craziest shit. That man slept with the whole family and kept kidnapping the daughter.

You couldn't have had that chance in no black household. He'd have been fucked. As soon as he sucked the daddy penis, everybody would have killed him. You don't get those kind of chances in black community. Yeah, we're talking about that when we watched that. Yeah, that was the crazy shit. Outside of that being the sickest part of the entire premise, the fact that homie got on that camera and was like,

he sucked my dick too. That was like the last episode. I was like, wait. You've been on this whole series. The whole time. It was like, listen, I could. I was sitting there watching that shit.

His wrist was that good on me too. I couldn't resist. Is everybody this stupid in rural towns? This got to be the craziest shit ever. But those are the things that, even though those neighbors knew it, or some of the neighbors suspected it, nobody said it out loud.

Nobody went over there and had a talk with that family. In all neighborhoods, They would have knocked on the door and had a talk with the mom. Hey, he'd be touching kids. Oh, he'd been to prison. Da-da-da-da-da-da. And I think it's, now, I think it's more prominent now in all communities because they have that predator watch, you know.

Predator app, yeah. You have the, you know, when I was living in Plainfield, Indiana, every time somebody moved into a neighborhood that had been to jail for molestation or rape, they got to register, yeah. Yeah, you had to register. So you would get an email, a child molester, just moved three days, three those down. But back in those days, you didn't have it so people didn't talk about it. But the black community always talked about it.

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