New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 4/21

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal, we debate fan comments on our Nas picks bad beats Instagram asset, Mal asks Demaris if there's a double standard with men dating younger women, the worst brands of water, and speculate on what went down with Shannon Sharpe relating to the sexual assault allegationsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Only the best. This is only for the best for the best. Pee's drop that beat. No. Did our Nas worst beat picker and rap make it to our best of? Damn. That clip I saw. definitely some back and forth. I even had people texting me about that shit. And it was,

I felt an easy proof. Like, I think I, I solved this rumor. Which one? That Nas does not pick bad beats. I mean, you guys at Rockefeller concocted this whole conspiracy to try to ruin his legacy and put it out there. And then Vlad says it every five minutes. And now everyone just across the board just goes, Naz picks bad beats. That's not true. Mech just sat in and said he asked one. about that years ago and nods himself. Said he picks bad beats on purpose. He didn't say picks bad beats. He said that he wants the people to listen to what he's saying more than the music.

That doesn't mean it's a bad beat. It may not be you don't know from just Blaze, but they're not bad beats. They're just maybe not like the crazy beats that you just focus on the beat. Is it a bad beat? Yes. All right. Awful. Works?

No, it worked. It worked. It definitely worked. But to say that. Somebody said ether is a. fire beat. All right. Is ghetto techno

that beat? I don't even know if that's a real account. I'm not shouting that. What the fuck is work mail 1551? It's not even a real fucking click on that. Click on that. Let's see who the fuck that is. It's not even a real person.

Like, ether is a fire beat. No, it's not. It's a bot. That's a bot. Whoever said that is definitely a bot. Anthony, friend of the show, manages Kendrick and Nas. Bots.

Off of the Nas beats me in fire or not? Maybe Anthony switch the account from Kendra to Nas to do the bot thing for the day. I don't think they're sending bots to say, Nas picks by his beats. But no, I just think it's unfair because Jay has bad beats sometimes. Every rapper does. They just put it on Nas. And I was actually shocked a lot of people did agree with me because that's just been the running thing forever. I mean, I think that Nas has obviously some great beats in his discography.

But there's a thing, even when he got with Hit Boy and they did their collection. people, the thing was, oh, he's finally getting beats that are going to be consistently at a certain level. Yeah. So it's a thing that people feel like Nas doesn't have the greatest beats to be one of the greatest rappers, obviously. People feel like a lot of his songs, some of the beats are just like, oh, that was cool. But compared to other, you know, other greats, other great rappers, people feel like his discography probably has the most beats that are just a little lackluster.

Now, I don't think that every beat Nas has is weak or trash. No, but I do think there are some songs where I'm just like the performance is what carried this. What he's saying and his rhymes is what carried it. But if you just listen to the music, it's just like, it's cool. It's not incredible music. 30-year career speaks for itself. Who are all these magical rappers that pick great beats over a 30-year career?

That's a good point. Who's our 30-year career that we can say is a flawless beat selection? I mean, but it doesn't have to be flawless. Like, if you look at somebody like Jay-Z, he obviously, you know, is not going in there saying, I'm going to pick a bad beat and let the rhymes carry the song. You go in there, you find a beat that you feel like embodies or captures, you know, what you're saying and can kind of, you know, just carry a little bit of the emotions that you're trying to project through your rhymes. But, I mean, it is a thing, though, that people just feel like some of Naz's music is just not up to the level of Nas's rapping ability. That's a real thing. I don't think that that's some false narrative that people create it.

I think that's a real thing. Blueprint 2, I think it had some misses, volume 3 as a few. Everybody has kingdom come. Magna Carta. 444 is flawless. But yeah, anyone that has this long of a career. Yeah. I mean, you're not going to love every beat from every song.

That's just impossible. You're not going to love every beat. But as somebody who's been listening to Nause for years, that is a real thing. I don't think this is some made-up new thing that the internet or social media just tried to make up and carry. It was a real thing that, you know, Nas' production sometimes is like, I wouldn't have went with that one. But obviously, Naz's rhymes is incredible. So it works. But I think overall, you know, a lot of people feel like Nas's music and has gotten better later on in his career.

Yeah. I'm watching. But I still think from 94 to 2002, flawless. I'm not mad at that. And Sten Street's disciple it got a little weird. That one got odd. Okay.

I don't know what's going on in the studio that day. That double disc. That's where it always gets tricky. That was a time. When rappers tried to do the double dish shit, it was like, fam, like you could have just condensed this to one

and just left it alone. That was like the, every rapper felt like they had to do that to kind of prove themselves. That was like a, you got to get your double dish shit off. And it's like, I get it. Everyone at that point was chasing Pock and Big.

and they both have classics. All eyes on me, life, I have death, fucking flawless, no skip, double albums. That doesn't mean the rest of the world that's right. Right. Like, at all. Because Blueprint 2 could have been close to Blueprint if it was just fucking 10 records.

I said the whole time, just condensed it to one album. And then Street's Disciple, like, as a Nass Stan, I like certain records on there, but it was not needed for, like, at one point, he just did like the first AI voice when Shorty got AIDS and he was rapping as her, and I thought it was Lil Kim for the first time and then I realized it was Nod's pitched up.

I was like, you know what man? I don't know if this album's for me. This one's rough. Yeah. And now we're doing biographies about KRS1 when Wikipedia exists. Or rock him rather. It was a weird time.

And then you're taking two singles back to back with hip-hop is dead using the thief scene beat. Like I was confused so much what was going on at that time. But hit boy gave me Nas New Life? I guess.

That's a real narrative, though. That's a real thing. People was happy to hear Nas. I love that they're connecting. People kill me all the time when I say Lock In with one producer, but I think that's when you make your best music. He needed to do that, but

that's a stretch. Like, Hit Boy, of course, legend is on right, but gave Nas. I don't know about that. Nas was, okay, because when you say New Life, it's kind of sound like Nas was dead out here. No. Nas' career wasn't dead.

But I do understand he gave him a new kind of frequency. He gave him a new sound. And I think more of an output because Nas never had an output like that. I think, okay,

I will give this comment some credit then because yes, that gave Nas a new way of putting it. But I understand it kind of like new life.

It's like Nas didn't need new life. Like this is Nas we're talking about. Because before like the King's disease, life is good existed, which is close to a classic album.

So I don't really know about new life. But anyways, it was cool. to see I've liked our pod for the last few months because I feel like we're back to like just discussing music

of course we're talking about baddies and bullshit but you know I like having those nerdy convos that's why I love to have meck on but I like to see people react to music shit for real not Stan beef bullshit like the day 26 video comments are all about music

no messy shit no puff shit like I love that we can get engagement this way rather than always he's having to do. I like this comment right here. Renaissance Man underscore the 7 says, even if you owe me, it's considered good. Many don't agree.

There's still not enough evidence of him doing those type of records to say that, oh, I can do that when I want to. Nah, and I absolutely love Nause. I ran through the KD and Magic series. I ran through the KD and Magic series just yesterday, but I ain't buying that last part. The last part being that Nause said he picks bad beats on purpose. Yeah, which I don't really think that's exactly.

was trying to say. Demaris, what did you think about Tracy Ellis Ross and what she said about her liking to date younger men because the toxic masculinity of men her age is a little too much? And if I said that, could I get away with it as a man? No. No. But she is who you are talking about. Like, you're the toxic man she was describing.

Me? I'm not toxic. I'm toxic? Let me know. Don't get quiet. Oh, no. What's on the list? Kevin Gates versus LeBron.

Is she up there? You think I'm toxic? real? No, I think you have some old school mentalities of things that you say is from a good place. I know you don't mean in a mean, malicious way, but people could view it as toxic.

Like what? Um, there's no such thing as a bisexual man. Okay. What else? Um, 45, 47. Trump? What? Wait, now you lost. You had me on the first one. I That was grateful. I don't want to just list all

a thing where now we could like invite ourselves to get canceled. See, I'm trying to talk real. Like you ain't trying to talk real. No, I get, I get, I mean, I only saw like a little bit of that clip. I didn't really watch it. But I mean, I guess I get where she's coming from. If that's what she's saying at the men her age or have a little bit of more of a toxic masculinity thing.

Yeah, I can, I can understand that. But if she goes too young, she's also going to run into the toxic masculine anything. She has to stay with the young millennials. Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age. I would have rather her just say she likes younger guys. Toxic masculinity doesn't always have an age, but there are some preconceived beliefs within different generations. Different generations believe certain things.

Like, for example, there's a bunch of articles on how Gen Z is more susceptible to the Andrew Tate rhetoric because that's because of how they grew up, being sheltered, not really going out and seeing the world, being on the internet, the addiction to porn, and this women hating rhetoric. it's become very prominent in Gen Z men. So no, toxic, there isn't just one set of generation that's toxic, but some more than others. Some are more susceptible to things more than others due to the media they were exposed to due to the things that was cool when they were growing up, the belief systems that their parents had,

like the music, the movies, everything, all of that has an effect. So if she's dating people Rory's age in comparison to dating people that might be in their late 20s or early 40s, it's going to be a little bit different. So I understand what she was saying. Yeah. I'm probably a little bit more progressive than my father is just my generation period. But it is odd to what Demeris just said too. The generation under me is like more toxic than my dad's generation.

Of course. That's what I'm saying. Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age. Like it's not, it's how you were raised, where you were raised. Like to me, that's more so what the time is. Yeah. It's not just a eight. Definitely zip code is a big part of it.

not just the age. Like that's why, again, I would have rather, I felt like, and I, I'm, I love Tracy Ellis Rose. I'm a huge fan. I thought that, you know, she just, her same because she dates, that's, that's why she dates younger people because of the toxic mask. I'm just like, I would rather her just say, I just like younger guys. Well, that also could just be her experience. That could have been the experience that she's had. No, it's always your personal experience. But I'm just saying what she said and the reason for her dating younger guys, I thought was just like, that doesn't make any sense. Because you can find a young goddess. more toxic. You're saying I'm toxic, way more toxic. These little Y-ins, 27, they talkin the chicks. I'm like, yo, they're all right. Why they're talking to you?

But I don't think that Tracy Ellis Ross is dating Y-Ns. She's dating younger men, but she's not dating Y-ins. I mean, you don't know that. I don't know that, but I can assume. We all live on in assumptions here. Yeah. Yeah. She could have been in front row at a little T.J. Strail.

I can see her dating a little Y-in just for the, you know, just for the thrill. Like, I don't know if this little nigga going, you know, rob me or not. But let's just see. But I mean, we've all had the older men have had the conversation of they like dating younger women. I had that conversation recently with a man that's headed into his 40s where he likes dating younger women, not creepily young, but women who haven't been. The older women get the more we see and the smarter we become and the more, if you want to say, damaged we become because the fantasy is gone, right? The younger you are, the more you still hold on to the fantasy of this dream man and believe in that dream. men. As you come into, you learn more, you come into contact with more men. It's like, oh,

I'm chasing a unicorn. And this is more than likely not real. So if someone's love bombing me, more than likely this will not last. Like, you don't really believe the things you used to. You lose your naivety. So it's easier to date. Even if you are trying to be a good guy, it's easier to date. I can see why they say it's easier to date younger women because they're more likely to believe you. Even if you are really a good guy, they're more likely to believe you. but older women is more likely to give you a hard time and make you really have to prove how good of a guy you are. Yeah, because you can't bullshit.

They've seen the bullshit. Beautiful way to just say young girls are easy to manipulate. But that was my thing with Tracy said what she said. I'm like, oh, you could run laps around these little young do you? I would have let her manipulate me at 21, 22. Tracey Ellis? Hell yeah. Okay.

I'm not mad at that. She can manipulate me now. Yeah, me too. I believe anything she says. I believe that all older men are toxic. I've seen it I've met all over the man I've seen it

I've met every one of them yeah they're all toxic well yeah if rolls are reversed we couldn't get that shit off hell no y'all get that shit off all the time no guys

older guys date younger girls but they get shit about it they didn't even got and I kind of think they shouldn't something the marriage you can see an older guy

walking a restaurant you at with a younger girl and you and whoever you're at the table where y'all gonna start talk about that shit no cut it out

it depends on how yo it depends on how young if I can see that that girl was way too young, then yeah, we're going to talk shit, but we automatically... 50-year-old man walks into a restaurant, you're at with a 24, 25-year-old girl. You're going to have something to say about that.

Yes, because that's a huge age difference. That's a 20-something year age difference. A dude that's seven years older than his girl. Nobody's checking for that. That happens all the time. We're not talking about seven years. Yeah, we're not talking about what Tracy... We're talking about significantly younger than you are.

Did she say 25 years? Did she say she's dating people 25 years younger? Or did she just say younger men? Nobody says I date younger people and it'd be... of five years. Five to 70, that's not really. Especially at her age. What women do, because women are not used to that.

So if a woman is dating a guy, even remember, I told you all went out of a date with a guy that was three years younger to me, and I'm like, he's like younger to me. Tracy Ellasphoros is 52 years old. How old do you think the men she did? I'm sure she's dating men in their early 40s. All right. I'm sure she has two.

I'm talking about when she says she dates a younger men. I'm sure she's talking about men in their early 40s, maybe late, late 30s. I don't think that she's dating early 30s. She's definitely told me. about 30s, man. Definitely. I don't, I don't think so. But I mean, that's, if that's what you guys took from that, that's not what I took from

that. Even if it's a 35 year old. It's a 17 year difference. Yeah. If Tracy Ellis walked down here right now, her boyfriend was 35 and she's 52. People can talk about her too. People can talk about her quicker than they're going to talk about the man. No, but it's a different talk though.

It's a different. And that's my point. It's a different talk when it's a woman with a guy. It's not a difference. Y'all, y'all niggas dragged Dreya to the ends of the fucking earth. But that's not a different talk. No, but that was different because she was actually around him and his girlfriend since they were in high school. That whole situation was different.

That's why they gave Drea shit about that. Because Jalen's ex-girl and Drea were actually, like she was mentoring Jaylon's ex-girl. They gave her shit about. They were like, he's the same age as your son. That's what they were giving her shit about. Okay. Valid. That's not a valid shit giver?

No, but what I'm saying is, yeah, she still caught shit. Like, let's not make it seem like women are able to walk around and do whatever they want. Nobody gives him shit for it. No, no, no. But that's that situation is you can understand. that, no? If you're dating a guy that's the same age as your son? I can understand anything. I can understand all of what they're saying, but what I'm saying is we're not just going to paint it like women can do it and make it and they don't catch. We're speaking in general,

not specifics. Typically when an older guy is with a younger girl, what is the reason? She wants money. He wants youngness. That's typically what that scenario ends up being, right? More than 15 years. Sure. Okay. When it happens typically with an older, woman and a younger man, let's say a 50 year old and a 35 year old, is everyone going to bring up income or are they going to be like, oh, maybe like each other? They usually say that they're taking advantage that he's trying to take advantage of her for money. If Tracy Ellis Ross is with a 35 year old and he don't happen to have no money. I'm just saying in general, we've seen that before where income isn't a thing. We've never seen a broke old man with a young thing.

It's never happened. Yeah, it does happen. Where? Just because you don't, you don't, you don't, don't see it because you don't care about broke people. So you're not checking for what I'm broke. I'm doing. I'm not checking for what broke people are doing. I don't got a fucking dollar to my name. When we're talking about this and when we're in people's business, they're celebrities. So they have money. You only know their business because they're celebrities that have money. So you're not checking for the business of people who are not celebrities with money. So you can't sit up there and say, well, we don't hear about them. Of course you don't. They're broke. You don't know them. Why would you know them?

All right. But de Marrars, what we're saying is this. If you, you could be walking outside. The chances of you seeing a younger girl with an older, significantly older man and he's not well off is what? Slim to none. Okay. Walk down Collins in Miami.

That's your experience. I see it. You won't know. Where do you see it at? That's not for me to speak on situations because these are people that I know, but I see it. They fucking with an older broke man?

He's not well off. They're not fucking with a younger broke man. Go fuck with an older broke nigga. I don't know why y'all think that people don't date. I'm not saying broke people don't date. I'm just saying a woman is not seeking out. No, she's not seeking out, but women date men who don't have any money. People who don't have any money date. Absolutely. Just in general, like percentage wise, usually what a stereotype would be.

If you walk down Collins in Miami right now, you will run into old men with young women and they're not famous, but you can assume one thing that they are. Yeah, that's Miami. That's Miami. Yeah. All right. Manhattan. Rich. All right, so where we want me to go? Little Rock, Arkansas. I don't know. Yeah. And it'd be mad. Broke older men with young girls. No, but they raised in the self. But them young girls are fucking them for that check that he get on the first day. We're not doing that.

It ain't much. It ain't much, but it's something. It's something there. It's an incentive. It's an incentive. That old nigga, he tripped. First of the month come, she writer his crib with him. Girl, he wants me to just cook for him and just, you know, rub his feet.

He's going to give me a little $800. That's a lot. You know, to some people, $800 just to go over there and kick it. Just to go over there and kick it. What old man need their feet rub? You're available? $800? Yeah.

Cash? That's crazy. I told you I already do anything for money. That's, you make something shake. You know, he makes something shake for $800. I'll make him a smoothie. That was a terrible, terrible joke. Oh, my God.

Shout out to Tracy Ellis Ross, the fuck it. Let her get that shit off. Hey, I'm probably 35 in two weeks. And this is why when you say stuff like that, boo, you got to clarify. Because she could be talking about a nigga that seven years younger to her. And they don't put 20, 25-year-old men on you. Tracy Ellis Ross Aides saying she likes younger guys and saying the dude is 45. It's not a younger guy.

Not even a woman. That's her old niggins. I think we're actually nice and saying 35. Like, come on, man. She might be talking about 30. Yeah. Like, it's okay. She can do whatever the fuck she want.

But if the rose was reversed, a guy saying that, it would have been a fucking shitstorm. And you know, I believe in double standards. So it's cool. It's just like when Nia Long went on that talk show and they asked her about the Jake Holbar. He's like, oh, he's not too young for me. If that was flipped, we see Leo do it, but he's never said it on a talk show.

He said that shit out loud. Yeah, he ain't going to do that. He ain't going to say that out of loud. We know what he's doing, but he ain't going to say that up. No. Leo is fucking sick. Listen, man, it is what it is. A win is a win.

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So I don't know if this is a suck of shit or not Is it suck as shit For me to pull up on a girl Eat her box And they get nothing to return You're the realest nigga alive word up I said That's not sucking shit

I said that's cool Like if that's all you want From the girl, that's all you want And they like nah yo Like fuck is you a bitch or something Like Fuck you mean Fuck you mean you only

only want to give a head. And I'm like, bro, like, maybe I just felt like eating box. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? That shit's fun. But they told me that sucker shit. So I want to know is that sucker shit or not. That's really all I need. You know what I'm saying? Baltimore nigger

signing out. That kid's having a life. Now, he's a real nigger. Word to me. And when God rise up from the dead, he really going to reward him for the real ass shit he's doing it how he contributed in a society. We appreciate you, my brother. And this is why I believe in double standards, especially when they work in our benefit. It's fine.

If a girl just give you head and that's it, it's done. You just eat some pussy. And you just sit in there hard? That's what, okay. So that's where I was going to go with it. Because I'm like, now you're just sitting here hard. Like, if I'm meeting a girl, I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm turned on. I want to have sex now. So it's like, how you do that and just leave? like maybe he got off that's what he got off from it that's crazy no that's not you say he

nutted well giving a girl head girls have done it y'all don't think men can do it i've definitely watched i've i've heard of situations where men have nutted man oh no i've definitely i've definitely came too quick and then pretended like i was just going back down to eat the pussy that's an angel you i don't know no nigger that ever did that i don't want to hear that shit demara's a nigger came from eating you out no i don't even date men but i'm saying i'm saying i don't know i'm saying I've heard of situations of it happens. That's what I'm saying. I'm not,

I'm just not rolling with that. I think y'all think me getting to be less horny. I think she's confusing the trick of when you feel like you're about to nut too quick. So you pull out and then you're like, you know, not you're raised, start eating the pussy just to get your thoughts back together. Homey close with style.

No, man. I can't. No, no, I don't believe that. I do not believe that. I'm letting y'all know right now. I don't believe that men are coming in their jeans.

told me your home girl lied more problem I don't know maybe I do believe that the man that would eat pussy fully clothed probably could not I don't believe that eating pussy fully clothes is hilarious lock that nigga up that nigga I agree the nigga that's able to do that

put him in prison because that's just a small peek into the shit that he can do for sure to the society and he did it in wrangler jeans get him out off the streets coming in your jeans while you eat some like come on fam come on I know I love women

I get horny too because a nigga ain't never been that horny Come on yourself fully clothed Come on man Now if you want to eat a girl out and just go home Cool I just don't understand it Because I would be ready to have sex I would be aroused

I would be ready like I just I can't see it for me I'm not knocking anybody That wants to pull them on their girl And just eat out and go back home I mean sure girl why not stay Go back home that's crazy Yeah I'm sure why not stay like finish

I don't know Yeah do what y'all want to do But y'all don't go sit here tell me niggas are coming on themselves fully clothed not like masturbating while they're eating I just don't believe that that happened do y'all think that women have done it a rag after you just hate pussy and that's it's it's crazy do y'all think that women have you ever seen women let me guess you've seen women come from giving head right they come looking at more no I've never I've never now if she did I don't know oh okay I don't know one thing more has never seen but it's different but it's

different but it's different when y'all come to women come. You're going to know when he came like it's going to be a mess everywhere. Like a woman just like, oh shit, she just crazy wet when she get up like, oh damn. Like so she may have. I don't know. I'm just saying for a man to do it, it's just like that's just, that's just crazy to me. Only time I've seen that they either had a vibrator or they were touching themselves while giving head. You have to be doing something to get there. And if I was eating pussy and corner my beef, yeah, I could probably nut. But just to be chilling. fully clothed

well maybe there was friction how much friction he'd drive up in the bed while he eating her out it's just see and this is where I sound crazy because but that is absolutely insane to me how was that even physically possible I've never just ate pussy and that was it

but I mean I probably would I'm calling bullshit or what you've never just eating pussy and that was it never that's never happened to you you've never had a moment where you couldn't get hard and you just ate pussy and kept eating pussy because you couldn't get hard are you telling me that never happened to you? Well, ew, my dick works.

Okay, all right. I'm just saying, okay. I'm not coming off. Me? That's what she's saying. Oh, I don't know what. I think that's happened to every boy that has ever done drugs or drink too much before. You've been eating pussy and couldn't get hard.

And you over there doing that awkward jerk thing while you eating pussy. It's happened to every man. No, no. And then I got there. Or I just fuck with. Soft dick. See, now that's crazy. That's not crazy?

He trying to nail jello to the wall. Because if that didn't work, maybe if I get inside the pussy, I'll get hard. He's pushing gushers through a keyhole and somehow. Facts. Everybody else weird. Crazy, right. Yo, nah. I just feel like if you're in that mode of like oral sex, there's no way I'm not aroused.

There's no way. I've definitely been like too drunk and not been able to get hard, but she's giving me head to try to get me hard and it just didn't work. So I didn't just eat pussy and then put my clothes back on and go home. Well, if you do have ED, Roy, Roy. Roe Sparks right now call Roy. We have too many sponsors to you, so I'm not going to say products, but... You got to call Shannon.

Call Shannon. We can get some Roe Sparks to you. Don't trip, Roy. We're going to take care of you, man. We love you over here at Rory Mall. If I know I'm out crazy, no, come on. I'll be chewed up. There's no.

Yeah, yeah, you got to, man. You got to. Get that Rose Sparks. I'll take that headache with a gas station. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Roe Sparks. You need the Roe Sparks.

That's the problem. All that other shit, no. Roe Sparks, Ro is a go. Before DeMaris. Roe will help you grow. You can't spell grow without Roe. Blacking some baby gravy? Oh, man.

Baltimore, nigger, I don't know. I'm not going to say you crazy for eating the girl out leaving. He won't know if he's a sucker. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. I mean, again. But a sucker's born every seven seconds in America. I enjoy eating pussy. I probably wouldn't mind.

Yeah, that's okay. You can be a sucker for your girl. It's all right. Yeah. That's not. I feel like if you just, if you're with your girlfriend, you just eat her pussy and that's it.

Yeah, we've all done suck this shit for our lady, man. It's all right. That for your lady, but not for no rando. You don't do that to no rando. But then like,

all right, so assuming he made her come and that's what ended it? Or did he just stop eating pussy and then she was just like, no? It could have been a little, like, quick thing. Like, because I've seen that happen to women with her.

Doing a mouth by is crazy. Yeah. Mouth by South West. Mouth by South West. He did a mouth buy. He did a mouth by. This nigga doing mouth buys. Niggas in Baltimore will kill you and do a mouth buy.

Nigger, eat you out and go kill a nigga on the next corner. Nigger, stop eating you out to go shoot a nigga in Baltimore. Yeah. Y'all niggins. I saw it on the wire. I think boating in something so on. Yeah, y'all are crazy down there and be more. No, but I've seen that happen to women before where men will pull up and like just, you know, just to tease you real quick and leave.

Yeah, I've definitely seen that before. That's not as crazy as y'all think that it is. No, I'm saying I would probably do it. I just haven't done it. Like, I like eating pussy. Yeah. Sometimes you got to do that a little bit. A little, no, me, no, gong, gong, gong, and then get out of there.

Get in and get out. I'll be back. Then, like, you just walk into the car hard. Yeah. It's a little awkward. I think your mental state has to be doing it like as a fun thing because if you if you too, if your horny brain get too horny, that's when I think you like really fuck around and get like brick. But like if you're doing it just to like tease her and play around, I don't think

you'll get brick like that. I don't know. I don't have a penis. I just assuming. No. You get a brick no matter what. The moment you smell, the moment you smell the kucci, you break. Yeah. That's like natural, no. No, I'm not making fun. I'm with you. Now it's weird to get hard No one said it was weird, poor. No one said it was weird. Yeah, that's the foreplay. I get hard making out. Yeah, you're eating,

like, I don't know why you, but not everybody like you. Not everybody's like you. You don't got this blood pressure? She'd flow through my body. Oh, man. Do we have another voicemail? Please.

That was it? Josh, he has two written down. He said, no, we're good. We're good, Josh. Let it go. Let it go. This was all over the place. This freaked out ass episode.

Oh, man. Listen, it's all good, though, man. It's all good. Oh, man. Just need a second to breathe. All right. DJ head, let us know. A win is a win.

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65 or 68% of bottle water is actually just tap water. I feel like that's low. I feel like 90% of bottle water. It's all marketing. plastic. Good bottle, good glass. It's like a good glass bottle with a tint on it. I haven't really seen many like water ads on podcasts, but I feel like we're not ruining advertisers here. What's your top five worst waters of all time? Desani, number one. I think that's crossed the board. Desaena, aquifina is number two.

I think Evian could be a number two. No. If you don't get Evian in that glass bottle that only the Monteron does? Any water in glass bottle is cold. Evian is fucking all. Awful. Any water in a glass bottle cold, you can get me to fucking go in the white van and kidnap me. Yeah, for sure. We have candy in here. 100%. The coldness takes away and dilutes everything.

I'm good. I'm sold. Evian in a plastic bottle, I think, is number two. I actually think it could rival Desani for how bad Evian water is. Nah. Propel. I don't even know if... Propel is crazy. I don't know if my streets have taken me there.

Sipping on a propel is wow. What is the propel logo? It's just like a pee. You love pushing me. It's the Phillies logo? Crystal geyser, nasty. Yeah, crystal gazers. Crystal gazes so whack.

The label don't even stay on until you get home. The label fall right off in the bag from the supermarket. The moment you purchase it. Yeah. Liquid death. Nasty. Liquid death. It's okay if it's cold, I guess.

I'll take that over most of like the Poland Springs of the world. Oh, yeah. Poland Spring is only great because it's $1 and you could just get the fuck out the store. Poland Spring is the most accessible water. Polespring is good as shit. I don't know about that shit. When you put ass shit on there, okay.

I don't know about that. I don't know if we're going to do ass shit. I really enjoy Poland Spring water. I'll buy Poland Spring all day. But if you go through, leave everything at warm temperature, if it goes against like Deer Park, what was the one you just said? Arrowhead. Arrowhead.

Every one of its peers and competitors, Poland Spring is light gears above that, at room temperature. Arrowhead water is the water that I think they take each night at the end of the carnival, whoever didn't buy the goldfish. they take that water and put it the sports that's the sportsmanship award at camp they take that water if whoever didn't buy that goldfish they take that water and put it in the arrowhead bottle

so you know we've all been like flexing for 20 years that New York City has the best tap water I found out recently that we have been that's a lie we have been lying about that for two decades your water is terrible that used to be like a thing like yeah we have the best water who has better water than New York City a lot we're like we're like in the hundreds Really?

I thought we were number one my entire life up until two weeks ago. When y'all used to say that, I used to like, because up in Syracuse, we have a spring near us, like over in Skinny Atlas. No, but we get it from the Hudson up there. That's why we thought it was the best. That shit is trash. I think it's y'all, I don't know what. Alabama don't got better water than us.

I'm not jacking that. I'm not jacking Alabama has better tap water than New York. No way. I feel like it's your pipes. I feel like y'all pipes is just mold. No way. But that builds character. You need the minerals from the,

That's what like fights the diseases and shit. Yeah, you need the minerals from the pipe. Absolutely. Yo, my whole life, my whole life I thought New York City had the best tap water of all time. It was like a stat people would bring up. That shit is disgusting. Y'all are crazy. New York tap water is great.

It's terrible. No way, man. It's terrible. Jersey tap water. Jersey got octane in it. Yeah, drinking jersey tap water. You might as well go to the quick, quick check in 93, put $20 on 93. just put the nozzle in your mouth.

That shit. That shit. Jersey tap water is crazy. Like the first time I took Everclear shot. Yeah. Jersey tap water tastes like a dry cleaner. Anyway, we're back. No, honestly, the first time when I got to St. Peter's, my freshman year, I started breaking out.

Like way more. Oh, taking the shower? Yeah. That water was like bad, bad. Sorry, it built character. It made you the man you are today. Nah, it didn't. It didn't change anything.

thing. It just made my skin fucked up. I'm not a better person because of it. It wasn't a trial and tribulation. You're a man's man. Because of the Jersey tap war. It's all good. Anyways, where are we supposed to start here today? Do we get right, right into it? Let's get right into the shits, man. Our label mate slash maybe not label mate, because I don't know anyone's negotiation. He'll be out of a job soon. Don't, all right. Yeah. We'll be out of one. That's why I don't rock with y'all because when I be ready to go there, y'all leave me out there island. Why you're asking me all the

ears I'm not I'm with you I don't think It's going to affect him The way you think it is though No listen All jokes aside

So we talked about Shannon Sharp Our I don't know if he's Any more of our label made But a guy that we We respect Our murder into our Rough Riders

No we appreciate What Shannon is done in the space Me as somebody who grew up watching Shannon Sharp Play football And Which we didn't bring up in tight ends On the other conversation

Yeah Which was offensive I apologize Shannon We didn't bring you up In the conversation you had earlier, but nonetheless, Shannon Sharp, Hall of Fame, tight in. I'm old enough to remember Shannon Sharp as a player when he first came to the league. Well, maybe not when he first came in, but while he was earlier playing.

First video game I had was Game Day 98, where the Denver Broncos were the best team. There you go. Jarrell Davis. And I remember when it was a circle, circle, circle, circle, circle. Shannon Sharp was the butt of jokes when it came to his speech, being able to talk. He had, you know, it was kind of, you know, heavy, thick country accent. wasn't the most articulate person. And to see where he is now in his career,

being one of the biggest voices, biggest figures in media, you know, it's just a testament to the work that Shannon Sharp has put in after his career and playing in the NFL. And, you know, the things that he's doing in this space, which is tremendous work, amazing work, we support him, we salute him.

But he's obviously coming to, you know, a point in his career where things are a little, you know, not so proud, it's not a proud moment for Shannon right now. He's facing allegations of, you know, sexual assault. The clown lawyer, I still think he's a clown lawyer. I don't give a fuck. Tony Busby is representing a woman who says that Shannon Sharp sexually assaulted us.

Some text messages have been released. Audio recordings have been released. Pretty articulate. Yeah, you know, I choke shit out to you. I knew what he said then. It was very articulate when he said that. But what does this mean for Shannon Sharpe? Obviously, this is a stain on his jacket.

This is something that, you know, we didn't expect to hear come out about Shannon Sharma. And he's been, let's be very clear, he's been very adamant that this is 1,000% of shakedown, that there is nothing here. He didn't, you know, he's not in no violation, though. He didn't violate any woman. That's not who he is. You know, he's been very vocal and very adamant, not running from that. But Shannon, you know, when you, it comes out again, and I don't know if this is true. Now, it is alleged that Shannon Sharp offered $10 million.

And to me, when you offer that type of money so that things are kind of quiet and don't come out and don't hit the, hit the, you know, social media or don't hit the net. That says that you are trying to cover something up. You're trying to prevent something. If you're innocent, you know, I don't care what comes out. They try to shake you down. We don't offer no money. Obviously, Jay-Z just went through that with the same lawyer. He didn't offer any money.

Case got dismissed, thrown out. I believe that there's legal action being taken against the same lawyer Tony Busby now as a result of that. So, yeah, so, you know, what does this mean for Shannon Sharp? Is it going to affect his career? I don't know. I don't know if, you know, what is being alleged is true. It's still very early. More details will come out.

Shannon has been very vocal. He has not running from it. He's not hiding from it. He said he's willing to put out a sex tape. If he had it, he told them, he told, you know, Tony Busby and the, you know, alleged victim to put out the sex tape. You know, like show what it is that you want to show. So he's not hiding from it. He's not running from it.

I don't know what that means for Shannon. I do know that as a result. Who is guiding for, all right. I'm sorry to interrupt you. You're giving a great breakdown of what's going on. but you really are. I just, who is guiding Shannon Sharp right now? Nobody. He is. He's guiding himself.

All right. The $10 million shit initially was like, that feels weird because, which we've said a million times. If somebody's accusing me of anything and I didn't do that shit, I'll get on the stand. I'm refusing, like no matter what, I would do anything to prove that. But I also don't know what it's like to be in a $100 million negotiation. And if $10 million out of that $100 million could get this thing that could compromise this $100 million the fuck out of here,

maybe I'd sacrifice $10 million. So I get that part. But Shannon with this sex tape shit, I'm still on the side that this looks weird, mainly based off the lawyer, which I guess is a little fucked up, but I'm just going off evidence. You saying I'll leak a consensual sex tape

does not prove the innocence of some non-consensual shit. Just because y'all fucked once consensually doesn't mean that there could have been a time that way. So even though I feel Shannon on everything that he's doing, attack it head on, I get it, let's get to the shits. Who would ever advise you to say some dumb shit like that? Yeah. This girl is how old? 21, if I'm not mistaken now.

They met when she was 19. They met when she was 19. Let's say safe assumption they had sex when she was 19. Shannon Sharper is 54. The 26. 54, I believe. maybe somewhere around there, 54, 55.

Shannon, this is not a woman that you should be involved with in any, 56 years old. This is not a woman that you should be involved with at all. Let's just put that out there. You're just in a way, a whole different league, way too grown for a 19-year-old. What does a 50-54 when you met her, I guess? What does a 54-year-old and a 19-year-old even talk about?

Big black babies. It's just, you know, you set, you started off, you know, behind the eight ball. You shouldn't, you should have no dealings with this young, young lady at all. So I'll start there. And, you know, that's, to me, that's just enough of it. It's like, how does Shannon Sharp even get to a point where he's having a sexual relationship with a 19-0 girl? We've had this conversation on the pod plenty of times outside of the Shannon Sharp situation of, from our Patreon episodes

of just having this wild age gap thing but let's not act like that's not a regular thing in the United States like in the world period. This is regular. I don't really care about Shannon Sharps's like moral compass as a human being

because I don't know him or care too much. If you want to do that, I think it's fucking weird. But I'm more concerned on what the actual case would be. If it's consensual with a 19 year old and 56, I think it's weird as fuck. but it's well past any legal thing

that we could even bring up even like the people of the the WAC 100s that find every state that has a 16 year old legal shit which I find odd that girl was 19 years old he's 56 years old I think it's odd

and gross and I could never even imagine any of my relatives male to female that would ever do some weirdo shit like that but that's not my business I can just think you're odd now

legally where does that leave it that's more of my thing who needs to mentor Shannon Sharp he's 56 years old both you and I are younger than him of course he knows it's odd we don't need to tell him it's weird

he felt weird doing it you think so I don't think he felt weird I don't think he felt weird I know when he got out of his like you said it's coming mind state of allowing that girl to say those certain things because you know like you said

there was responses back that weren't in that paperwork I'm sure once he nutted he felt odd. He's been fucking. I'm sure he has three kids that some I think are older than that girl. I'm sure he fell out. It's been two years though. Yeah. They've had, they've had a relationship. Yeah, listen, I've been beating off for 15 years. Sometimes I feel weird after. I'm sure he has a clear conscious sometimes. It goes, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah, I just don't, I just don't think that, you know, he has children that are much older than her. You don't think he looks at his kids and then looks at his phone on certain holidays and goes, what the fuck am I doing? It's, again. So we don't

need to sit here and met. Monique already tore his ass up on his own show and told him what to do. Yeah. So I don't know if we need to sit here and do that with Shannon. I'm not here. I'm not. I'm just putting out what it is. Dealing with a woman that young. Gross. You're three times her age. Where did you think this was going to end?

That's my thing. I don't give a fuck who you fuck. You want to be weird. You want to be weird. But I'm not going to have sympathy for you because this is what happens. Yeah. This is what happens. You fucking would a fucking teenage only fan. model. This is what happens. Guilty or not guilty? This is your dumb ass got to deal with. That's stupid as shit. I agree. I think that it was just a lapse of judgment for somebody who, you know, for the most part, I think is pretty intelligent, pretty classy guy. I don't, I don't see Shannon as not being a classy guy. But I think this, you know, obviously when the camera shut off and people go home and they have their personal lives, I think people are into

some things that are just a little inappropriate. And they're doing inappropriate things. Sometimes this is where it leads you. It leads you to these types of situations and these types of circumstances where you now have to face the public and talk about, you know, your personal business in the bedroom and behind your own closed doors because, again, the relationship was inappropriate to start with. So now we're here and Shannon Sharp is facing a lot of heat. I don't know what that means for him professionally and his career as a media personality for his businesses and his platforms that he has grown. He is in the middle of a huge negotiation right now with a media company. I don't know what that means for any of that. My guess is it is affecting it.

It is affecting it, but I think it'll be okay. I really do think we'll see. Granted, on the side of last episode, I'm not here to say anyone's innocent or guilty. I want to see just do through everything. If he did that shit, put him under the fucking prison. but I don't know I feel like a lot of this can we speak candidly I feel like in the last few years a lot of these accusations have really came and and went and has as has not affected people the way he used to I'm not saying what's fair what's not I'm just speaking real on what I've observed these accusations don't do what they used to do

no they don't and and I think in some cases but why do you think that some case I think it's really fucked up like I don't want to put on like a because she's 19 only fans model like that i'm sure that happens to those girls often but the smear campaign will be hey they're an only fans model so of course she wanted it or like anything like that yeah it's a easy smear campaign which is is fucked up in unfair and untrue but to your point there's also the side of what do you think that girl wanted and when she didn't get it she found tony busby like both of these things are true and i think the court of public opinion can never decide that. And I don't think the court of public opinion cares that much to

even sit through this whole trial. We're here for headlines and that's it. And then we'll go back to our lives. And then if Shannon Sharpe says something that's controversial or intriguing or has another good interview, everyone's going to go, all right, well, I'm back with Shannon. What even happened with that case? That's how this shit goes. Like, I don't know. It's going to affect his money for sure because no matter what, when scandals happen, bullshit happens, we know that any corporation is going to use that against any creator. But I don't know if it's really going to affect his bottom line to his career as a media personality. I mean, I would hope not, but again, we don't know. We don't know the details of everything that is happening. We don't know what the lawyers are ready to present.

And again, we weren't in, you know, Shannon Sharp's bedroom. We don't know. Nor do I want to be. No, do I want to be. But, you know, here we are, you know, as all being a part of media. And this obviously came across the desk and we have to talk about it because, again, this is Shannon Sharp, one of the biggest figures that we have. And if this girl is telling the truth, because I'm not just automatically doubting that she is. If she is telling the truth, I'm so upset that she got the lawyer that she got because that was your biggest mistake that you could have done. Okay. Again, also, I'll put, let's take this situation out.

That's also where it gets fucked up. Because if this girl has no resources, no nothing, even though, I mean, Shannon Sharp was sending her, what, 50, like, wow. $25,000 a cheap, baby. Like, listen. Brandy, I'm sorry. We should have given you more money for a lawyer. She got bread for Busby.

There's a lot of girls that don't have resources when some shit happens like that. And they'll find the fucking bullshit ambulance chaser that says, yo, I've represented this group of people against this case. And women that have no experience in that world will be like, Okay, okay, Antonio, if that's even your real name. Yeah. I'm still on that. I'm sorry, I repeat myself.

Busby is not his last name. Ain't no fucking way. I know who sent him. Oh, my God. But, yeah, I mean, as much as I'm on that side, like everything in me is saying, you got Tony Busby, this is some bullshit, some shakedown, nonsense. But I also don't want to put it to girls that don't have resources

and there are only ambulance chasers that will listen to them. Tony Busby being a fucking ambulance chaser. Remember that first press release with the hove shit, everyone on Twitter? Oh, look at Tony Busby's resume. He's the most tried lawyer in all of federal history in one of the most cases. Oh, he photoshopped that. That was not true. He has no experience.

He's an ambulance chaser. But to some women, that's the only lawyer that will speak to them. So you can't really put it on people that don't have any experience. myself included when it comes to like legality and law shit like i thank god for brandy because she's taught me so much in the music business with lawyer shit that i would never know if i didn't have her thank god brandy's an amazing person and not tony busby but yeah sometimes that's the only lawyer that will listen to you yeah especially with stuff like this where a lawyer often won't take on cases like this because there's no evidence like when it comes to the freaky shit i want to

I'll make that very clear. This is a separate. When it comes to freaky shit, it's very hard to prove that you didn't. It's very hard to prove consent in someone else's bedroom when you weren't there unless it is on camera

or unless there is like physical damage from the assault. It's tough. So a lot of, and then you're going against somebody who has money. A lot of lawyers won't take that on. Did you guys ever watch

the Breakfast Club interview with Stephen A. Smith? I'm actually shocked this clip has not like, made its rounds on the internet. Our listeners in Reddit and Twitter community find this. I think Charlemagne was the one that asked Stephen A. Smith about having women sent to him. Because Stephen A is very vocal that he's single and he's just focused on his work.

He can't get me in a scandal. I'm not tied to nobody. I'm not cheating on nobody. I do what I do when I'm not working. And that's put him in situations where he's felt women have been sent to him from certain people. with certain agendas to get him jammed up. And no way am I saying this is the case right now. Just bringing up that thought

because they're both in media. And Stephen A, we've known have gone through countless negotiations. We saw him get a deal that he got fucked over and he's making like $8 million on ESPN seven days a week. Finally got his worth. But before that, he was like, nah, I peeped when they were sending women to me.

I could tell that this wasn't that. Somebody sent you to fuck me over. This feels like you're about to yell rape in the hotel room. I mean, I'm just always on the side of your moral compass and having discernment will save you from a lot of bullshit. Having discernment more than anything. Yeah, and it's just, you know. And discipline.

And discipline. Even if you have these horny thoughts just to, like, control them. But this is, this is why, this is why it's, this is so confusing to me, because you look at somebody like Shannon Sharp, who is, you know, has accomplished things athletically. that not many people will ever accomplish. That takes a certain level of, you know, discipline, keep your body in shape, you know, play at a high level for so many years,

you know, Hall of Famer. And then like I said, when you first came into the league, you had, if you want to call it a speech impediment, he wasn't the greatest, most articulate person when he first came in, but dedicated himself to learning how to speak and learning how to articulate. And now he's one of the biggest figures in media. So clearly here's a guy that has discipline and is able to focus, right? Is able to focus and able to execute and, you know, was able to afford himself a great lifestyle through his dedication to his craft and to his work.

How do you have such a lapse in judgment when it comes to sexually, romantically? That's the part that I'm, because that's not, you know, if somebody is a very clean cut, very sharp. You see them at work desk area. Everything is clean. And you go to their crib and they're a fucking hoarder. You're going to be like, this doesn't check out. This is not the person I know. Okay. I vividly remember this conversation. The year was 2010. I was at Def Jam. And I'm aware that club Sheesh is based off Konyak and he has other vices. But an exec that was like, not shot money, another one that I'm not going to name that was kind of mentoring me was speaking about another executive that was super clean cut, super discipline, super everything. And we were smoking in the office. And that

executive walked by and he said, I think he has some weird sexual deviant shit. Everyone on earth has to have a vice. If you're this disciplined in something, there has to be a place that you get this shit off somewhere. And if you don't go out, you don't do any type of drug, any type of alcohol, that's cool. You're not even gluttony. Like you're ordering salads, even on days that we order and just like pizza and shit, he got to have something. It's got to be some, everyone has a vice. Everyone has to get that out in some type of way. So I, yeah, it's a stereotype

of the way I view a lot of like super. So choking white bitches is his vice? Yeah. Okay. That's what suck. I mean, which one. But you don't think someone like, all right, you've seen, like American Psycho?

Yeah. I mean, of course, that's the extreme version of that. But I, and I'm not calling Shannon Sharp anything. thing close to. I want to make that very fucking clear. Pige, please don't cut it that way. Or you don't know. Of course, but a lot of the cleanest cut people are the most deviant human

beings. They don't get their shit out with just smoking weed. They don't just have a glass of fucking wine after work or eat a fucking pizza after work. They get their shit off. And it's in a very calculated, disciplined, and nasty fucking way.

American psycho. I mean, you know, He was ironing the fucking body bags that he was putting the bitches in. Like, that shit translates over. It's a man's man. Now, he might have been the first metrosexual. Either way, man, you know, I hope that these are just allegations against Shannon Sharp. And if they're not, fuck them.

Oh, yeah. I'm just saying on that. That's a number of percent. Anybody that sexually assaults sexually abuses anybody. And if she's lying, fuck her? Oh, she's lying. Absolutely fuck her. And for people who are into BDSM, or if you're planning on trying BDSM with a partner,

this may seem extreme now, but write some shit out, get some shit in writing, get safe words out in writing, get all of this down so that can't nobody jam you up. If you're doing brat fetishes or things where someone's in control of you or you're in control of somebody, you don't want somebody coming back and saying, oh, you forced yourself on me when you thought that that was the type of play that y'all were into sexually. There are articles you can read about how to handle that stuff legally, but please, please, protect yourself. Like, I'm all for being freaked out.

Y'all know I rarely kink shame, but you got to be fucking careful. Because if you, you got to know when somebody is antagonizing you or when somebody really wants you to force themselves on you. Like, you have to, you got to know all of that stuff. Like, all of that is very important. So being freaked out is cool. I'm all with being freaked out. But please, please set some boundaries.

and if you don't know that person like that, get that shit in writing. Let me tell you something. Make part of the role play a mediator with a contract. Yeah. Yeah, no, let me tell you something. If me and Rory sit down

and they start throwing $100 million across the table, I'm going to be, it's going to be casting couch on my phone for every girl I interact with. Give us your name, your age. No for a background. We get all that on video. I'm not fucking a hundred million.

I'm not fucking up that bag for no pussy. Ain't no pussy that good in the world. Shannon is fucking tripping if he did that 19 what for what are you doing How did you meet? Do you know right? Where are you thinking that? Tell me where do you

Where did he meet this girl? The internet nigger Shannon sharp may he's supposed to be meeting no women On the internet where he's gonna meet him Shannon sharp is 50-7 years old Because we've seen how that goes That's gonna let you choke her and say put this big black baby in me Where are you gonna meet that girl

Shep is worth of You think that Shannon Sharp can't meet a grown woman that will let him freak them out. He don't want grown women. The clip just happened with Monique where Monique said you need to lead them young girls alone. He's like, why, Monique? That's what I'm saying.

He's fucking tripping. But young girls, cool. I'm not talking about as young as this girl, though. 19? If she was 28, 29, all right. You know what I mean? Like, get your shit off.

19? Come on, fan. She's one year removed from high school? You bugging the fuck out? That's not even the freaks you want. You bugging the fuck out. She ain't even been freaking long enough. Yeah, you're like, you're not even been around long enough to be freaky.

Yeah, I got sneakers older than that. I got the original 95 air matches. Like, yeah, like it. My, my lime green air matches is older than her. Like, what are we talking about? Like, you really met this girl? And let's make it clear she's 21 now, but they're saying that he met her when she man.

Man, I don't care if she's still too young. I got hats 21 years old. But what are we talking about here, man? like Shannon Sharp is he's out of he's all the way out of pocket with this this is crazy and not saying you can't date younger girls but 19, 20,

20, 21, you playing yourself. You absolutely playing yourself doing that at 54 years old. It's bad bitches that's 30 and freaky you, I don't understand. Bad bitches that's 30. Bernice Burrgo's in her 40s. Bernice is 45.

With grandkids. What are we talking about here? We don't know if like she's a free. I mean, but just beauty going off of beauty and looking good and... That's 50-year-old. I just said Tracy Ellis Ross at this time for a younger man. Mia Long.

Is she still available? None of you, niggas. Who? You and you? Me and Nia? Yeah. Set it up. Rory?

Don't just say it. Oh, let me just text her because me and Nia Long text all the time. I'm just saying like, yeah, but like we're saying if I'm sharing an asshole line, I'm going up. That would have been the only thing that came out on me. They're like, yo, this nigga been in the Nialong DM's going crazy. They don't be like your mall was with some 19 year old and said, I'm a choke you bitch. Like, that ain't going to never happen. Shannon Sharp is bugging for this.

I'm sorry. Also, the alleged rape, if I'm not mistaken, Josh, correct me if I'm wrong, is that they were having penis to vagina thing. He put it in her ass. He put it in her ass. Put it in her butt. Hey, people, if you are not aware. I love that you went penis to vagina to try to be politically correct.

then put it in her ass. Yeah, but two beeps, hey, for young men that are coming up out here, because there are some young men that listen to our podcast, and I think it's very important for them to be informed, that is rape. That is rape. Yes, you should not try to put it in a girl's ass if that was not told to be done already. That is rape. No matter if you are having penis to vagina sex, that is rape.

The moment she says no. That is rape. Can y'all not laugh for being serious? I'm laughing because you get it in the political way that I was happy you were doing. And he was like, yeah, I just put it in a butt. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, say, pottox or like, uh, take the penis and enter the rectum. Like, you didn't even go that route.

You was like, yeah, just don't put in their ass. Yeah, no. No, I agree, though. You should not. Can I, can we, can we keep it real? Can we keep it real for, like, just the last, like, 30 seconds of this? Just keep it real Fridays. Let's keep it real Fridays.

Shannon fucking did that shit, man. Oh my God. Shannon did that shit, man. He got a little too, you know, me? He went a little too far. Yeah. They was having wild sex. You know what I'm saying?

and he probably was like his thumb was in there. Yeah, he probably was like, he thought she wanted it, you know what I mean? And, you know, he heard her. You know what I'm saying? She's two days later

she was still sore. She's like, nah, this thing you got to pay for this. I believe that Shannon just went a little too far. I believe he actually did put it in her butt. She didn't want it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not going to say he held her down

and made her take it. He probably just tried to get it in there real quick and she probably was like, nah, you bugging. If her text message is correct, I mean, because clearly in text, she doesn't hold anything back. If she said no when you try to put in her butt, then you just go back to the vagina.

Oh, she also said, I bet you can happen in consensual sex. And if she's not with it, you just go back to the vagina. Mm. You don't keep going. Horses don't stop. They keep going. Cut that.

What? She said, I beg you to play with the Broncos. I beg you to put it in my butt. And not put it in my butt. Also, if you have sex with somebody without putting a condomine, they're telling you to put a condomine, you don't put a condomine. Also, rape.

I want every form of it. No, no. I'm just. That's awesome. Yeah. No, I agree. Great. So she said, I begged you to put a condomite and not put it in my ass.

And you didn't listen. I don't care about, yeah. But also. Also, but all right, I hear you. And this is why sex thing is a problem. Yeah. Because if you ever sexed with somebody and they're not that person, mm-hmm.

So if you're telling me to put a big black baby in me and then I show up with no condom, not victim blaming. Because at no point, that mean I'm entitled to fuck you without a condom. I'm just saying you may confuse people when they show up. See, I'm gonna get, all right, no mind. No, I can see Molly and trying to have smiled.

I know. All I'm saying, I think sexting should stop because I think people just be getting a horny back. Sexton should never stop. If it's somebody you've been fucking, yeah, because we could. And if it's somebody's wonderful. He's been fucking her.

All right, well, let's be truthful in our sexting. All I know is whenever a girl texts you, I don't know how to process this, you're in trouble. Whenever a girl say, I don't know how to process this, it's like, oh shit, she got to find somebody to help her process it. What's funny is that stress for me. Due process. Due to our due process, Mr. Shannon Shaw, we are calling you to the Supreme Court.

I actually just felt blessed because I felt that nervous shit when you just said I need to process this when I didn't take the chicken out of the freezer. Man. To me, that terrified me. I can only imagine with, did I accidentally put it? in your butt. Oh my gosh. That's what Shannon should have did. He should have wrapped it up. Josh is doing this little thing he likes to do. Shannon, you should have wrapped it up.

How do we, how do we, poor Leon? How do we transition into our guests that is about to be here? Well, should it be a cold cut? Like, how do we get the energy into? I mean, well, this was wild. The good thing about our guest that's coming on is he. I'm being stared at. He is a he's a great, great talent, great, great singer, great songwriter. And he's coming by to have a great conversation with us.

So we can get right into that and have some fun. But again, Shannon, prayers to you, prayers to the alleged victim. Hopefully, you know, everybody is on the right side of history here. And everybody's, you know, they will come in court and due process like Damaris said. We will figure out more about what happened and what didn't happen. So, you know, hate to see Shannon go through this. discernment discipline moral morals moral compass where does that lie sex contracts sex contracts if you that somebody is as famous and as a bigger figure as shanna sharp is that might be a necessity

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