New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 5/12

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

This Week on New Rory & Mal the guys reminisce on the old McDonald's secret including the McGangbang, debate whether or not Rory and Demaris have the chops for Hollywood, react Cassie's testimony ...to kick off the Diddy trials,  spectulate if Cardi B and Stefon Diggs appearance at the Knicks game means a relationship hard launch, and review Joey Bad@$$'s response to Ray Vaugh with his "Finals" track #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Because they need more, Rory and Moll. All of our amazing moments. We understand people are busy. If it gets to those weeks on Sundays, you can come right here and get the best of what happened from this entire week. Monday through Sunday. The best of us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:08 The best of me. The best of me. The best of me's. Yes. Because there's two of us. Pressure bus pipe. Exactly. Every Sunday.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Best of us. Best of us. Best of us. We'll give you the best of us. Yeah. Mom, only the best. This is only for the best for the best. Please drop that beat.
Starting point is 00:01:24 No. Fast food is so expensive now. Like, why? Oh, yeah. You might as well just get food. But when I pull up, when I pull up the value meal menu from 1998. Oh, yeah. 96.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You know, I was going to school and I'm asking my mom for money for McDonald's and she gave me the whole rundown on what Harriet Tubman had to go through. I'm just like, I just wanted a Big Mac and some fries. Yeah, those shit was like 96 cents back in the bag. Hold on, because Damaris is just throwing shots. No, you could, I'm not being funny.
Starting point is 00:01:52 This is part of our relationship, Big Brother, Lowe's. Yeah, of course. Demaris, a Big Mac was not 96 cents. I was not alive when a Big Mac was 96 cents. I'm thinking because when I was a certain age, we had a dollar menu, so you were a little bit older than me, so I thought it would be like 96 cents.
Starting point is 00:02:05 A Big Mac was never on. the dollar man, was it? Oh, it wasn't? Oh, I don't know. No, you can get a McChicken. You can get that bullshit chicken cutlet. Stop, McChickens are good. That bullshit chicken color. I was never a chicken a McChicken guy at McDonald. You'd rather get the crispy chicken. The crispy chicken was where it's at, the crispy chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 00:02:23 That little dollar Mick, Mick chicken, throw that shit out the window. I was so brainwashed. I would eat the McChicken meat. Let me get something real in my stomach and eat a McChicken. Let me get some more of food. That's what I used to be a real meal. Did you eat today? Nah.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Not yet. Like, I got it's time for me to eat. What you getting? No, McDonald's. That's your meal. And then two McChicons, if you wanted to go crazy. That was when I was going through puberty, I needed too. When I was in high school, they used to do something called the Mick gang bang.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That was something else. That wasn't a part of Ronald. It wasn't the Mick chicken. That was the purple guy. Ronald. With a double cheeseburger. Wait, what? You put the Mick chicken on top of the double cheeseburger.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It was called a Mick, oh, in between the double cheeseburger. Wait. You had to order it and do that yourself. What number was that on? You had to. Yeah, you had to order it. That wasn't part of there. Did you just ask and confirm if that was not on the, the McGangbang was not on the menu.
Starting point is 00:03:16 But that's what I'm saying. Who was that number 69? Who gave it that name? Was that just like locally up in? Well, no, because Peas went to school down in Kansas and he said he heard of it too. Peas, they do not have the McGangbang bang in Kansas. I'm not rolling with that. I'm not, they never called it the McGang Bang Bang.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I love that you called it local. Like it was like tomatoes in New Jersey. Like, oh, it's Mcgangbangs season. We have to go upstate. Who called it McGangbang. Who gave it that? I don't know. I guess it was like a cultural thing of like high school students.
Starting point is 00:03:42 That didn't testify boroughs. Well, you were, you're younger. So this was when we were in like middle school. Or you're older. Hack the menu. com. When we were in middle school, high school. What year was that?
Starting point is 00:03:53 2010? 2009. Yeah, I was, I ain't never heard of no McGangbang. You wasn't eating McDonald's at that time. 2010? Hell yeah, I was. Oh. That was fucking McDonald's up in 2010.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Mighty wings at that point. The McGang Bang Burger is one of McDonald's most famous secret menu items. Oh, a secret menu. The best way to do it is to simply order a McDouble or McChicken and put it together yourself. Think back to those old commercials. Some assembly may be required. Prices and participation may vary. That whole time they were talking about the McGangbang.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yo, that is crazy. That was secret code talk for gang bang. Yeah. People liked it too. Land, sea, and air burger. So that's the filet of fish, the chicken sandwich. and beef, like the Big Mac. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:39 That's just heart disease and stroke waiting to happen. Remember when I was working at the advertising company? Yeah. So we had McDonald's as a client, and for like six months, they put me on the McLopster account. Oh, that's just so ironic. The amount of like Getty images I had to download of like high-res shots of like the McLopster. And like we would have to like really rent out. spaces to shoot the McLopster.
Starting point is 00:05:07 There was a McLopster? Yeah. I've never heard of the McLopster. A lot. And then at one point, at one point, we sent a McLopster van to Maine, and it just drove down from Maine to Virginia and did like McLopster pop-ups. Oh my God. It's real.
Starting point is 00:05:22 What was the McLopster? I've never. I don't think it ever hit New York City. Lobster meat, mayo-based sauce, lettuce, and it's served on a toasted bun. It's summer only-Migdonals have lobster rolls. Some of these, typically available. these photos. And new,
Starting point is 00:05:36 typically available in New England States, Maine, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Starting point is 00:05:39 wait, wait, wait a fucking minute. McDonald's had lobster rolls? Yeah, but only in New England,
Starting point is 00:05:48 not over here. Yeah. I used to take these, like, what the fuck. I used to take like these
Starting point is 00:05:52 fan generated photos of people. Like, we would run social campaigns. Do you know what I would do for a lobster
Starting point is 00:05:58 roll when I used to eat lobster? You wouldn't want the McLobster, you want no fucking Mick Lobster. No, no,
Starting point is 00:06:03 don't do that because the filet of fish It's good. That shit ain't real fish, though. That shit is carp. That shit is carp. That shit is not real fucking fish. Baby Dee said that shit is carp.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Nah, baby, you don't do that. Filet and fish is good. Don't we not doing that. When the buns are warm? Yeah, come on. We're not doing that. I'm not pausing warm buns. I love warm buns.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Do you always like to open those freeze packages of vacuum-sealed maclop. at my office. Yo, so you ate a McLopster? No. I would take them out of the vacuum seal and they would give us instructions on how to like heat it up
Starting point is 00:06:47 so we could take photos of it. It smelled so fucking bad. Yo, that is great. I never knew McDonald's had a McLopster. It lasted. This was like summer 2015, it had to be. No, somebody, in the comments,
Starting point is 00:07:02 somebody got to tell me how to McLopper. Yo, PJJ, had a McLopster? Somebody got to tell me how to McLopter. was, man. We need a McLopster review. I never even knew this was a thing. I'm cool, actually. I don't remember how much it cost. Nah, man, y'all tripping the McLopster might have, they might have did numbers in New England. A single Lopstero cost $30 in 2022. The McLopster
Starting point is 00:07:25 however was $3.99. I'm cool. It hit nine during inflation. $9 for McLopster is hilarious. And first of all, if you're in Maine, New England, etc., why the fuck would you get a McLopster when you could get lobster. The same reason you get a burger for McDonald's and we live in Manhattan. Some of the greatest burgers in the world, man. Fair, but like if you're out there, no, that's different. Because a burger is universal everywhere.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Like, I may want a quick burger. Your burgers all the time. Lobster, no matter where you are, it's kind of like a special thing, right? So if you're in New England, wouldn't you want to like, I'll save my money so twice a month I can eat real lobster, not run around for a $9 McLobster? I got to try to McLopster
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm sorry Were you a McRib guy I'm sad to say In my younger days Man I may have had a McRibber too That was your rib That shit was so nasty That shit was so nasty
Starting point is 00:08:17 I can smell it right now That shit tastes like a sneaker tongue Oh A saucy sneaker tongue Yeah that shit was just a sneaker tongue With sauce all over it That shit was terrible The McLobster got discontinued in 2017
Starting point is 00:08:31 Damn I didn't do my job Damn Rory You didn't market it enough I flooded the streets. Nah, you were supposed to hit the hood with that shit. You're supposed to take that to the hood like, crack. We started in Maine. Due to rising lobster prices.
Starting point is 00:08:42 So it wasn't you, Roy, you did your job as an advertising. There was not lobster in that. The lobster price did not affect the McLopster. I ain't going to lie, man. I would have definitely tried to McLopster. They lucky they didn't bring that to Harlem. Niggas would have been smoking duchess eating lobster rolls every night. So I should have been outside Red Lobster on two-fifth just trying to hand-to-hand
Starting point is 00:09:04 to McLopter. Yeah, you got to go hand to. You don't need to go in there. No, you got to go hand in hand with the McLobstom. You see they put a red lobster right on 25th Street. That shit is never going out of business. I can't judge people because I was one of those people when I was younger. I used to eat this shrimp from Popeye's.
Starting point is 00:09:18 No, the Pop-Istrip was all right. Yeah, that's not, you ain't say nothing crazy. But I feel like, I don't feel like you should eat anything from a restaurant that don't specialize in that. Like Mighty Wings at McDonald's, right? It's a red flag a little bit. Like ribs at McDonald's, it's a red flag. But, like, why are you eating shrimp at Popeyes?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Where that shrimp came from? Cajian. Louisiana. It was like the popcorn shrimp. Yeah. But it's Louisiana themed. That's like a big thing. Yeah, but like where it's not from? You don't want you to put Cajian in front of it. Yeah. Niggas. You can go either way poe boy, you want a poe boy?
Starting point is 00:09:47 And then do a super racist commercial for 20 years. Peas want a poe boy. I know he do. Peace the hell yeah. Them poe boys? Josh, you ever had a pooh boy? Josh, you never... Get out. I can't talk in the room with a nigga that never had a pooboy.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Like, what you mean? I've never had a po-boy either. You never had a po-boy? No, I live up north. And I've never gone down south and was like, you know why I should grab a po-boy? Never. Oh, my God. You get a po-boy right now.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah, we got to get a po-boy. You got to get a po-boy. What about City Island, right? Isn't it that that thing that they do up in the Bronx or whatever? You get a-po-ah is? Yeah, you get a po-bo-boy. I don't know if I want that to be your first po-boy, though. Yeah, I feel like I ought to go to Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Oh, nah. You go to Louisiana. Because City Island is po-boy with a side of violence. You may not even get a chance to eat it. Yeah, City Island is a pole boy with a side of a folding chair upside your head, man. You know what I'm saying? It's all good. City Island is such deception because you get off the bridge and it's like the most beautiful area.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I'm like, I cannot believe it's the Bronx. I look at the harbor, the water, then you get to the end of that street, gang violence. And see the three needs? Every Dominican gang you can get up. You go out there. You go to Seafood City on the wrong night. The Thrin-Ees is in the parking lot. wrong night any night yeah you might want to get up out of there just let me know i was yeah when
Starting point is 00:11:06 the street lights come on i'm getting right back on yeah you don't want to see the three needs at see who's said trust me trust me when them niggis is there just go to another spot man fuck it how like the people that live there full time have not complained is beyond me oh no they complain and like the locals yeah you know how hard it is to get like a place in city island i mean it's generation to generation yeah you can't kid you're not going to just move to city island That don't happen. You know somebody's like, I'm moving to the City Island. Somebody they know owns something and gave it to them.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Like, yo, you could take my house. For sure. You're not just moving to City Island. That's not happening. Yeah, you got to deal with that and then like possibly a dead body just coming up onto your beach. It's part of it. So good.
Starting point is 00:11:47 That's the allure. Oh, it's murder season. Goes great with the shrimp. It's high tide. Low tide, it smells like shit. High tide. It smells like dead body. It smells like bodies rotten in the water.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. How do we even? get on this entire. I have no... Oh, how much a value meal cost now? Yeah. Yeah, you might as well just get a po-boy in Louisiana for what that cost now. Do you think the dollar menu is what they like eased us in to deceive us? Because before the dollar menu, I kind of feel like it was like $3 for a combo meal. Then they started moving those items and separating them for a dollar. Then you'd get like five things on dollar menu. It should be seven something. And that pushed the combo shit up to like $12. Whoever came up with that should be like a general in Israel, right?
Starting point is 00:12:32 right now. Because how did you do that to us? You really made fast food cost the same as Applebee's. McDonald's and Dubai is crazy, you know. Really? Oh my God. They had so many different chicken sandwiches. They got pissed in the soda fountain? See? No, no, worry. Why can't be normal? It just has so many different. Oh, I'm the one that's not normal, right? What goes on to Dubai, I'm the one that's unnormal. Yeah, but that's not everywhere. That goes on right in Manhattan, too. Right now, right on the corner, actually. Yeah, but it's, uh, that little rubbing tugs spot you keep popping in front of? They got the shit option. Yeah, but at At least there, like you have to be behind a curtain, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah. And like they'll turn some music on so no one can hear it. And Dubai, I think it's just like from just out in the open. Yeah. It comes with your section. You've been to Dubai before? Dubai is, it's cool. It's just a little, it's turned up, too turned up for me.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Really? I'm like more laid back shit. One of my favorite YouTubers, shout out to Alia face. She lives there and like she'll vlog like her living experience. And it seems she said it's a really nice place to like live. Like she goes jogging at night. She's like, I could never do this in New York City. I would never feel comfortable doing.
Starting point is 00:13:31 as she said, but in Dubai is like one of the safest places in the world. Oh, it's definitely one of the safest places for sure. Yeah. I feel like a lot of content creators moved out there. Yeah, probably. Is that true? Because I've definitely seen that like in my algorithm of all these people just buying houses in Dubai. Probably. Probably some something tax related. It's always tax related. Always. But I never understand, because I've never like done the research, but is it super strict or is it not? Like to some people, it sounds like it's the Wild Wild West. Like literally you can do anything.
Starting point is 00:14:01 on anyone, get a Lamborghini for $10 just for the night. Then I hear other people like, yo, if you even smoke weed, you're going to jail for life. If you get, I mean, I don't know. Don't let me get the line. I don't know how strict. I'm sure there are very strict rules and laws over there. But just like anywhere else, man, you'll find a little pocket of a little coach over there where that shit is readily available, just weed smoking and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:14:27 It's like anywhere else. So I just looked it up. Don't get caught transporting that shit there, though. Yeah. Dubai has been actively attracting digital content creators with its creators, HQ initiative and Golden Visa program. So the Golden Visa, if you're an eligible creator, they'll give you a 10-year renewable residency permit.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And they'll give you, like they have an incubation center offering resources and support for content creators. They're helping with relocation and business setup. So they're offering, they want to become a content creation hub. So they're offering a lot of incentives. That's probably why you're seeing so many creators. creators move there. Okay. That's cool. Oh, speaking to which, I'm signing up for acting classes. Sorry. I'm signing up for acting classes. Do you want to come with me? When are they?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Is it like improv or like acting? It's going to be acting classes. Okay. Yes, I mean info. I might be down. Me or Rory want to be actors, mall. Welcome to the club. Iawaska could get us there. Oh, definitely. No, we wouldn't want to be in Hollywood off the ayahuasca. We would see all the evil people. Oh, is ayahuasca really Hollywood? See? Not even tying that together. It's not even, you know, it's not even registering. I feel like after the ayahuasca, I could like play the remake of Sean Penn, I am Sam. I think after Iowasca I would smoke that rope.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Like if I really dug deep. I was thinking of also like you eating guber grape. You would be like an amazing Bradpinning me, Joe Black. I think that's like that would be your looking. I think that role, I think that's made for you off the ayahuasca. All right. That's gonna be a fucked up question because I haven't seen I Am Sam since it probably came out and I was a kid. I remember him having a daughter and screaming about pancakes.
Starting point is 00:16:13 How did he get a daughter? Oh, you know how he got a dog. No, I don't. I really don't remember the movie like that. I was a child when it came out. I was really young. I just remember a scene about screaming about pancakes and his daughter was sitting across the room. And then I got older.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I was like, how do you get a daughter? Do I have the plot right? I'm really asking. Oh, so her, I guess he, so that wasn't his daughter. It's probably a bad answer. That's going to make me look like a dick, but, go ahead. It wasn't his daughter. I think, oh, no, it really was his daughter.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Lucy. Why are you laughing? I'm not laughing. All right, my bad. I'm sorry. No, Lucy in Dakota Fanning played her. Yes, that was Dakota Fanning. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So, how did Lucy get in the picture? He fucked her mother. she was a homeless woman. No, no, I know her babies are made. No, well, it was a homeless woman and she abandoned her. I've never seen a movie. What's so funny?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Oh. I didn't know that he was... That's why I'm laughing because I know DeMaris don't know. She don't know the movie, so she just reading it. Oh, I didn't know. I'm sorry. Oh, shit. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It was just the pure innocence of just. Damarist. I'm like, he's fucking homeless. He has no idea about Sam. Yeah. Oh, okay. That didn't make it any better, by the way. Yeah, we still don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Well, it says he's well adjusted. It has a supportive group of friends with disabilities as well. No, I'm not taking anything away from. The whole crew is sick. Please put a bleep. Holy shit. It's put a bleep. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Oh, my God. I knew DeMaris had no idea what that movie was about. Oh, I really did. I've never seen it before. So I'm just like. Now I have to watch it. I feel bad. I want to, like, get context.
Starting point is 00:18:12 He seems like a nice guy. Is it a... Yeah, that movie was like legendary. No, it's a classic movie. I just really have not seen it since I was a kid, so I don't remember... I don't feel like Dakota Fanning get her flowers. Dakota Fanon had been acting her ass off since, like, a shit. But I will end up watching I Am Sims just so that I know exactly what you guys are laughing at.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Y'all are terrible people. No, we're not laughing at anything. I don't remember the plot. I just remember. that one scene. And I know it's talked about as a classic. That's all I was, that's all I was getting at. If you had a dream role, like, if you could think of a role that, like, you've seen someone act before and you would like to be that good and act in that kind of role, what would it be? That's a good question. Mine would be Joker, Joker in the Dark Night. If I could embody a role
Starting point is 00:19:00 like that, like embody it like that, but that's a very, very high goal. Okay. So if you went that route, because I agree with you. you. Joker would be just any type of villain that's played with like sickness. Yeah, I'm with you on that all the way. I'll go the emotional route. Jim Carrey in a heartless spotted, whatever the fuck. Heartless Mind of the Spotted, whatever. Classic movie. Like it would. Eternal Sunshadow Spotless Mind is, there we go. Classic movie love that. And like, you know, you just got to look sad on the Long Island Railroad. I've done that a million times. Like I could definitely. And like I've definitely wanted to get the process where you could just take somebody out of your brain forever.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Like I've been there. And now that there's the technology in this movie, like, what? Someone needs to act. Maul, would you ever act? Would I have to act? Yeah. I act every day. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But I mean, I know. But I mean, like, for real, like, you know, like, really act. Yeah. I was talking to, shout out the Omar Epps. I've been talking to him a lot about getting into acting. things like that. I thought about it. I think you should take classes.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Not with us. We know you don't want to do shit with us, but I think you should take classes. Acting classes? We're just going to just go right past that. Yeah, I've just been talking to Omar Epps about getting into acting. He's been told me he was friends with old. I know he listens to the show.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I've DMed with him as well, but I just don't casually be like, yeah, you know, I got a little acting mentor right now. Omar Epps. I'm thinking about it. I don't really know. I can't call him an acting mentor because I'm not acting mentor because I'm not acting yet, but he is somebody that I speak to about getting into it, though.
Starting point is 00:20:40 He would be a great person to learn from. Oh, no, one thousand percent, one of my favorite actors for sure. Yeah, and just a solid, solid individual. Shout out to Omar. What would be your first one? I feel like out the gate you would have to not go with, like, Kane or Gangvanger 3. Like, you would have to do something that would get you out of being type-up. I would definitely want to be in a movie that's, like, kind of, I guess,
Starting point is 00:21:06 Not acting because I could see myself really being in that type of situation, like high school, New York, having friends, getting into a little bullshit in the streets. Like, that's acting, but it's not because I could really see that. Like, I probably live that exact. Like, you are steel from that. Exactly. Well, I love you, like a lot. I want to preface with that. You think you could play a high schooler?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah. Okay. Absolutely. I mean, when you do go look at, like, the credits for high school movies. they do end up being like 38. Look at T.I. Listen. T.I.
Starting point is 00:21:40 was old as fucking ATO. Absolutely. Well, when I was... That does usually happen. When I was looking it up, it says that you're supposed to have an acting age range of five years, like from one age to one age and it should be five years in between. But your real age should be somewhere in there. So I was trying to figure out like what age I can play, but I have to include 31 in those years. So I'm like, okay, I feel like I could do 27 to 32.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I feel like I could get 27 or 32 off Because I don't think I could do 30 to 35 I don't think I could get off being 35 years old I could definitely play You can depending on the aesthetic Yeah, the hair and makeup Yeah, absolutely If I shave my beard and shave most of my hair on my head
Starting point is 00:22:21 Then you would be Remy and Higher Learning That too But I'm really trying to get that Channing Tatum role And Coach Carter I could definitely get that role Yeah Because he didn't say anything really at all. No.
Starting point is 00:22:37 He just sat there. He was just a rebounder. He just put it. He just cut the sleeve off his t-shirt and put it on his head, which I did in high school for football. I could play that role. High school movies that have like basketball in it are so funny to watch. It's like, yo, these actors cannot play basketball at all. Like, y'all look crazy trying to act like y'all playing basketball.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And I could never act like I would ask Ashanti to get an abortion. I wouldn't even know how to act yet. How do you even pull that up? Don't you name of that actor. He deserves a fucking award. Looking at Shanti dead in her face. He's like, nah, get rid of that. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And she had the baby fat coat on. Like, come on, you know the baby fat coat. That's the number one abortion clinic coat right there. It hides a lot. Yeah, you know, when they come out the clinic with that baby fat coat on, it's like, yeah, you know, she got ready that. But we got to go pick up the prescription that CVS, so we're going to walk over there real quick. You know that route right there. It's right now.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Man. You know how that shit. Look at Baby D. Baby D. You had a baby fat code on coming out the clinic. Yeah. No, I did not get pregnant in high school, but you're funny as shit. That wasn't the number one coat?
Starting point is 00:23:38 It was. Yeah. If a girl had a baby fat coat on, she either gotten abortion or she's hiding her pregnancy. Or she's on her way to go have sex where she will get pregnant. Exactly. Either all. It's just a fertile coat. It comes with the baby bump.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You could zip out. No, the inside of the baby fat coat. If you look at the panel, it comes with actual baby names. And they're all Camora. And alphabetical order. Camora, Paris. Don't do that. Yo.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Melody, for sure. London. A bunch of melodies have been killed in a baby. Baby did definitely all pair of pastries when she was up. Oh, for sure. Oh, I love pastries. You had, I was joking. I was a really young.
Starting point is 00:24:29 You had a pair of peerries on? Pear, parents, pastry. Nah, yo, you can't do. My nigga, I was like 10 years old when pastries dropped. They were colorful sneakers. You know, my parents bought them for me. I was like 10 years old when pastries. Yeah, I'm young.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I mean, I's respectfully. Damaris's ghetto as fuck. I don't know if you have that. Oh, no, I know. I know exactly how ghetto she is. Yeah. Yeah. I did it well.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah. Definitely, definitely cartoon coat. I had the cartoon coat ghetto. I was cartoon coat ghetto. Ooh. The Skittles jacket? Yeah. I ran my grace out.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Now, Tweedberg. Tweety Bird. Anytime you've seen a boy wearing a, like a Tweety Bird or Eminem jacket, he bite. He biked the shit out. First of all, don't do that. He'll bite the shit out you.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Because your burrow ran the fucking cookie monster and Elmo shirt hat collab into the fucking ground. They was cutting niggas. You see a hell. Hiding a razor under the Elmo. Walking down third ab and getting cut by somebody in a cookie monster shirt.
Starting point is 00:25:31 We lived through some nasty errors, man. Remember when they tried to Japanese symbol us with the with the with the with the baseball hats of course nasty that's not the Yankees they don't wear those Derry Cheetah never played in that like no it was when um um Matsui came that's what that was that when they did it yeah no it wasn't each it was met when Matsui came play right field no we have that we have that we have that we have to look that change because you might be right now don't take about it and that's race because I was in high school and that yeah that was definitely that area the MLB is crazy for
Starting point is 00:26:03 that campaign The Japanese symbol hats? Because Matsui got one. Ichiro got a crazy contract. That was like the time when the, you know, were they off from Japan or China? Matt Sui was Japanese. I don't want to get that wrong. Matsui was definitely Japanese.
Starting point is 00:26:20 His nickname was Godzilla, right? Yeah. But we're so racist over here that anyone that's Asian would be like, yo, you know, you don't know how racist it is, baby. I think they introed him at the stadium. He came out of Godzilla. He might have walked out of Godzilla's stomach or some crazy shit. like that. Like that's how like that's how deaf tone deaf the Yankees are. They don't
Starting point is 00:26:38 Steinbrenner didn't give a fuck. Once he signed that check, you're going to walk out of the Godzilla right on to Jerome Avenue. We don't give a fuck. Going to place it on the fucking train. Absolutely. What? Once you signed that deal, it's over. I own you now. And what's funny is he looked 45 and played like he was 21. Matzovi? Yeah. Oh, he was a problem. He was a beast. Well, the puck trial has commenced and, you know, Well, yeah, it started. It's happening. It's been a lot of people, you know, that's coming into town. A lot of bloggers, a lot of people with podcasts have been going to the courthouse and then reporting on, you know, the testimony that's been given by witnesses. Well, Cassie Ventura. Some of the things she said, I'm not going to lie. We kind of, we talked about it back when all this happened, Rory and Puff was arrested. I sat here and I said, yo, we're going to hear some things. Once this just try happens, we're going to hear some things that's going to have us looking at people. Very different. I think I even spoke when I said that I wasn't prepared.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Some of the things that we're hearing now, as a lawyer, I would just have to turn the puff and be like, all right, so why did you want his come on your nipples, though? Like, what does that do for the freak level? Objection you're leading the witness. No, no, I'm talking about this will be just a conversation between me and my client. I would turn it up and be like, yo, so. They can't record like, I need to get this defense. Like, you would let your girl, let a guy have sex with your girl finish all over her.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And then you want her to come in the other room and rub his, the guy semen on your nipples. That's what they call on the horse? What is coming nipples? What is that? All right. Well, Damaris, you stop. The fuck, yo, ma. Because you're, we not talking about, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Women are supposed to have come on their nipples. Cool. No man has ever told you, Demaris, rub my cum, on my come on. my nipples. You're right. I'm not arguing with you. So now let alone another man's come on my nipples. What level of freak are we at? Yeah, that's not, listen, I'm going to just say, man, keep that nigga in jail, man. Thought I told you that we won't stop. Yeah, man. You want another man's come on your nipples? Nah, I think he was just running out of things to do. It's never that much shit to do. It'll never stop a creative. Nah, man, that's the different level.
Starting point is 00:29:01 That's the devil. That's Satan. I agree. And before we get to like the actual details, I will say, I've lost sleep reading it because they were in the Gramercy Park Hotel in the suite. There's only one presidential suite there. Great hotel. Amazing. I shot a video there,
Starting point is 00:29:18 a ludicrous video actually with Aristotle and we stayed in the suite for three days because we were shooting like, why should we get hotels? I want to leave. There's three bedrooms. I'm now having nightmares of what I was laying in.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Do the time lines line up? I should have taken like the black lights that we had on set. I should have gave a hole. I don't want to stay in hotels anymore But then Airbnb's don't Just too much nasty, quirky shit happens before you get there
Starting point is 00:29:42 And I don't really I don't feel well about it Listen if we're going down that Hotels and Airbnbs Very nasty Yeah very disgusting But to get off the jokes I knew that this would get the timeline
Starting point is 00:29:55 In a Cumb nipples Not just that Of just a anti-Cassy thing News Flash Woman has consensual sex With her boyfriend at one point crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah. Now that takes away from everything Cassie said before because at one point she was having consensual sex with her boyfriend. Right. Whoa. Mm-hmm. I hate the timeline during these types of things. Well, I even saw some people, yeah, and again, a lot of these people online are just
Starting point is 00:30:23 a lot of, you know, bought accounts and just people just tweet things to stir shit up, seeing people saying, oh, your boyfriend can't rape you. I was like, all right. All right. Y'all are just, now y'all are just stupid. Like that's that's not true. It's absolutely can happen and it does happen unfortunately. But again, I just think that this trial and everything that we're hearing is just letting us get a glimpse into some of the things that people are into.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I don't think that this is, I think this happens more than we think. I think that this is very common when you had a certain level of life and a certain, you know, stature. I think this is very common. These type of practices and these type of things. things happen all the time. I just think that it's unfortunate in this situation because somebody was taking advantage of. A lot of people with Samwell Cassidy, you know, for years she went back. There's a such thing as Stockholm syndrome. You know, people that get arrested, do time of jail, they keep going back to jail. Even though they say jail is terrible, it's like, but why you keep
Starting point is 00:31:20 getting arrested going back to jail? Stockholm on steroids. Yeah. It's funny the things that the people on the internet skip over with the testimony because it doesn't fit the narrative that they want to speed out. If they don't fit the narrative, yeah. We just get rid of it. Are we also skipping over the points that Cassie suggested that he was having assistance and security guards stalker. He was blowing up cars to anyone that would talk to her was smacking people if she went to their concerts. Like, you're dealing with somebody that is harming people and her anytime she tries to leave. And when she tries to leave, she's being followed.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And beaten. They said that hotel video was her trying to leave. Yeah. So everyone relaxed with this. Why didn't she leave shit? especially if you've never been in that situation. Like, I don't, people just pick and choose what they want to hear. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And I knew, even with the testimony of her suggesting that she was raped by him and then they had consensual sex, I think like a year or two later or whatever, I knew that was going to be the, you know, the in-cell version of like, look, she's lying. It's like, I don't know, this was a very tumultuous and disgusting relationship on both sends too. I'm not in any way getting Puff off the hook for anything but that entire situation that he created was awful.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And she ended up a part of it but she's still a victim even though she stayed through the entire thing because she would have been harmed had she tried to leave every single time. What are we talking about here? As a father Rory, do you think that Puff's daughter should be in the courtroom hearing this? No. Hell no. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah. Nor his sons either. Well, they said that. They said The daughter's walked out, I think, during some of the testimony. During when the male escort was telling his story, but when Cassie was testifying, if I'm not mistaken, they were in the courtroom. And prayers to Cassie, too, being pregnant through that entire thing. Yeah, that's another thing. She's not just pregnant.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Like, she looked like she's due. She's 8.5 months, I think. Yeah. So, you know, just stress of that shit. Having to relive those moments, you know, and just being up there being grilled and asked to recount everything that happened, you know, it takes a physical, a physical toll on anybody, but let alone. a woman that's, you know, eight months pregnant.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So, you know, especially with the artist that's in that courtroom. Who hired him? Oh, the sketch? Some of the worst doodles I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, I don't know who that was. I don't know who those paintings are that or those drones. That was Amara. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:47 That shit looked like the, remember Mad Magazine? That shit looks crazy. That's exactly what looks like. That shit. These are nuts. Yeah. The one when he's making the heart shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Who is that? Who is drunk? Like, are you trying to be abstract? Yeah. That's not puff. Who was that? And the Cassie ones are even crazier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I think some people are not aware exactly of what Diddy is being. That's what I've seen from the public. A lot of people are like, okay, but what is he doing with Cassie? That's illegal. And he's being accused of leading a sex trafficking ring, right? As they're calling it a freco, which a RICO. Everything. Freco is crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Cassie is just the first witness. This is day one, day two, whatever of the trial. She's only the first witness. This is not reliant solely on her testimony. This is just helping paint a picture of the type of man that Diddy is. And the things that they are, that she is talking about is just not freaky. These things are illegal.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It is illegal to hire escorts. It is illegal to fly them over state lines. It is illegal to blackmail people or beat people when they are trying to escape a sexual situation. Like all of these things are illegal. He is not just going to jail for being freaky. I know people are a little slow, but I feel like sometimes we have to break that down.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And again, her testimony is not the only testimony that's coming. And even that, again, to what you're saying of her just being a witness of it, he's not even on trial for that video in L.A. No. Puff beating her up. Like, this is to prove what he was doing sex ringwise. And I was talking to a prosecutor that is in the state of New York. And he said, if you think Puff is just on the line right now for flying a sex worker to New York,
Starting point is 00:35:27 Miami or L.A., you have the feds completely fucked. up. That is part of one thing that they are proving in this case, and you'll see for the rest of this trials what you told me. But, I mean, it's going to get worse is just all I think. But, you know, everyone took the first witness because it was Cassie and was like, oh, Puff, free this man, which is insane to me, but I don't know, it's the internet. Yeah, it's, the racketeering charges coming from their legend that he used his business empire to, to fuel and conceal his criminal activities and that he use his money, power, and influence
Starting point is 00:36:03 and employees to criminal ends, which is why they're asking, Cassie so many questions about the assistants and the drivers and the who was there when this happened, who was there when this happened, that's where racketeering and him using his business comes in. A lot of people are not aware of that, though. But I think they're trying to prove
Starting point is 00:36:18 that it was his entire business that was involved in the RICO, whether they were complicit or not. That was part of their job was to, you're my assistant, but it's also to follow my girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah, and assistant, if we're just keeping it real in here today, the assistant needs to be brought
Starting point is 00:36:33 up on some charges as well. Oh, Lil Galang, yeah, for sure. Yeah, like, we're going to stop acting like, you know, y'all, you're not part of it. You didn't assist in some of the shit that was going on. If you worked with Puff and was booking flights or booking rooms or booking, you had a hand in that shit too. I mean, with knowledge that those things happened. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm sure there were some assistants that were there for a few months that was just like, hey, book this whole, this whole floor. I'm not. like, okay, sure. We know the assistants that just literally come here, just book rooms, book flights, and that, no, I'm talking about the assistants that know everything. Yeah. Like, yo, I beat her ass, get her to the hospital, you know, like, take it to the resort, book her room for two weeks, let her chill. Those type of assistance that know all the dirt. And I believe that's obviously who this lady was for Puff. And again, of course I'm not making light or laughing at
Starting point is 00:37:20 anything, but there was stuff in the testimony that just like showed the full arrogance of Puff. Like, when he would hire male escorts, he'd have a bandana over his face and be like, yo, my name's black. Like, dog, you are puff daddy. Well, maybe he was like, roll-clam. Stop trying to hide your identity. I just saw the VMA.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I just saw the VMAs. I know who you are, sir. We know your voice. Yeah, yeah, kind of. You made sure that we knew your voice on every single record interview. Like, you think one little fucking bandana with baby oil and a freak off,
Starting point is 00:37:51 I'm not going to realize that that's not puff daddy. Some crazy shit going on. might look like. Crazy shit going on. Like that's not Cassie. That's the other thing. You're trying to hide your face
Starting point is 00:38:01 like we don't know who Cassie's dating. Yeah. And we know what your voice sounds like. And we, Puff could have on a hoodie, bandana, everything and say one word and Cassie's in the room.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Like, well, that's, that's P. Diddy. Just take the fucking bandana off, Puff. Yeah, man, it's crazy. Yeah. How do you feel about, um... Four day free golfs? Couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And I've taken Molly. Yeah, nah. Four days. Yeah, no disrespect to Ro. I don't even know if Ro could get me there. Four days? Four days? No, Ro might get you two four.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'm gonna need, how do I stay up, though? Because Ro is just to keep the blood flowing in a particular place. How do you feel about everything they're saying about Cassie's husband being there and him hearing all of these things? And they said that he was staring puffed down yesterday during the trial. as the husband and you have to hear your wife give her testimony of things that she went through with this dude would you stay in the courtroom to support your pregnant wife yeah even if you're hearing things and you know hearing the type of abuse and shit that your wife has been through and I'm sure that
Starting point is 00:39:13 they've had those conversations and she's you know told him things but you can have a partner and know about their past their history But now to be in a courtroom and have to recount and give testimony detail by detail of exactly what happened, how it happened. And, you know, to hear your wife or see watch your wife sit there and say, you know, she was, Tom, she thought she was going to die. She was exhausted. She had sores on her mouth. And she had UTIs. And she, you know, the antibiotics weren't working anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And like to hear that, that has to affect. the relationship in some capacity once this all wraps up. I think they've had these conversations countless times and that's your wife and the mother of your children. Pregnant wife at that. Yeah, you gotta be there to support her.
Starting point is 00:40:08 But you've already been, you've already accepted everything that has happened. You've had that conversation. You know to some degree how crazy that entire situation was for her. Yeah, you've got to be there. It's different than kids support. Puff, like the kids shouldn't be in there.
Starting point is 00:40:25 But a husband, if she, unless she's like, I really would feel super uncomfortable if you were in there, then of course, I respect your wishes because you are the victim here and whatever you need or want for me. I got you. But yeah, you got to be there for that. Nobody wants to hear their wife testify
Starting point is 00:40:40 about consensual, pissed shit and this and that, but I mean, that doesn't trump all the abuse that happened to her, so you still have to be there to support her. And I'm sure there's no way they haven't had these conversations and knew exactly what was about to be said in that courtroom. Yeah, but I do feel like there's some things that she even, she may have forgotten happened because they're going through old emails, text messages and saying, oh, what about
Starting point is 00:41:05 this? And do you think that there's anything that she probably didn't have conversations about or going to detail with a husband that now emails and text messages are being read and things like that that she's reliving? Like, oh yeah, that was when so and so and so this happened. and, you know, he peed in my mouth. And I just think that there's some something here where it's like, this is going to affect her marriage and her relationship in some capacity. Not saying that it will be something that the husband can't, you know, get past and they won't be happy and, you know, have a great life together.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But there's something that's going to, they're going to walk away from this with. And even in the way you kind of like just, you know, because I told you the story about a girl I was dating years ago when she told me that she was molested, it changed my energy with her. I was like, really? Like, it was so fucked up to hear her say that. I was like, damn. And it changed our dynamic in our relationship. So to have a wife and then, you know, you hear these things in detail. Because she could have said, yeah, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:11 You know, we used to do this, do that. But now you have to, because you understand, you have to tell it all. You have to empty out. You can't leave nothing on the table. Well, before you even go on the stand, you're prepped for the stand. So Cassie knew what, she might not know what the defense is going to ask her. That's what I'm saying. She has an idea.
Starting point is 00:42:30 She knew what the prosecution was going to ask her. Prosecution and defense have the exact same evidence. Yeah, her testimony is so far. She was prepped on what to say and what was going to be read off. So I'm sure she knew and I'm sure her husband knew. I'm sure. And again, he's a human being. So to say it wouldn't affect him, especially if he loves her.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, of course that's going to be a thing. But I'll play the role of those. My feelings are the least that are important at this moment. Oh, but I'm saying it was something I have to deal with on my own. But it would affect you. Of course it would. So it would affect the relationship. On a bunch of different levels, just number one, the abuse and all that down to stare and puff down.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Down to some of the consensual shit too. like, okay, that's crazy. Cool. Letting the freak flag fly. Cool. I'm not into piss, but all right. Neither is Cassie. Fair.
Starting point is 00:43:25 As she said, I understand. Fair. But yeah, of course it's going to affect it, but this is something that I signed up for it, and I'm sure before he married her, was aware of at least most of these things. Oh, yeah. And it's comfortable taking on that role
Starting point is 00:43:41 as now the support system of somebody that had been abused in the past, this is what comes with it. So you can't now say, I signed up for this and then back out of it as her husband because it makes you fucking a little queasy in the courtroom.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Now you've got to be there to be a support system. No, you definitely got to be there to support your wife. You're also human, and yeah, it's not going to be fun sitting there like hearing that shit, yeah. And homie right here.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I'm just saying I think that, you know, it's fucked up because it is going to have an effect on her marriage and her relationship coming out of this.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I mean, it did probably go into the relationship to begin with. I'm sure Do went through a lot with her just because she was getting out of such an abusive relationship. And there was some, like, conflicting times as well. Because she was talking to him when Diddy had raped her and then had consensual sex with him later on. Like, there was overlap. But, you know, when you're talking with somebody, there's always overlap. Yeah. Shit.
Starting point is 00:44:37 He was also probably aware of it. It was probably easier to open up to him because he, He was her trainer. Did he hired her as his train? So he was probably aware of some shit, obviously not to the extent, aware of some shit before he even started dating her. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it's much easier to open up to this person when they're already aware that some crazy shit is kind of going on with you.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I'm sure she showed up to train it with bruises or whatever. Like, you know, like he knew something was going on. So I'm sure she opened up to him. I don't think it will affect their marriage. I'm sure that that affected him, but I think that that's his temporary emotions. I don't think that their marriage changes in any way. at all for us. But I do think
Starting point is 00:45:14 there's been a lot of talk about that and people have bought that up and I know that mall is kind of two stepping around it but there are some people who would not be able to handle their girl having a pass like that but everybody ain't built
Starting point is 00:45:26 to be with you and that's fine. A lot of men I wasn't two stepping around it. I think you were trying to be respectful as you should be but that's been a conversation that I see people having but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I mean again the husband knows This is not his first time hearing most of these things. I just think, again, hearing in detail and then obviously it's emotional. It's a difference if we're at home and the comfort of our, you know, home and we're on the couch and, you know, we're talking, having those type of conversations versus now we're in a courtroom with a bunch of strangers staring at you, grilling you, asking questions. My wife is up here crying because she's reliving all of this while that she had to go through. It's a different emotion now.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Now it's like, yeah, I may have heard that story before, but not that. under these. Of course. You know, conditions and circumstances. And the whole world didn't know it either. The whole world didn't know it. My mom didn't know it. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's, of course. But if you signed up for that, this is what you got to be there for. You got to be there. And, you know, and salute to him because, you know, he's, you know, he's carrying the husband flag and he's right. He's right by her side and he's going, going through this with her. So we got to salute him for that. But, you know, either way it goes, this thing is going to play out.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I think it's going to get a lot worse. Things are going to start to, you know, a lot. I think other names are going to be pulled into this soon. But it is what it is. You got to go through the mud to come out on the other side and get through it. So that's just the situation that is at hand. But either way, prayers to Cassie and any other victims of sexual abuse, domestic violence, things of that nature. And no woman, nobody should have to go through that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:47:08 But unfortunately, it happens more than. and it should, and this is just another case of it, and it being a high-profile cases, everybody seems to be talking about it. But either way, there are still real victims here, and those are the ones that matter. And I think I agree with you as far as the outcome of this. My prediction is exactly what you said,
Starting point is 00:47:27 as far as more coming out, more crazy shit, a few more names. I don't think he beats this, and I think the response is going to be, all right, so now we're getting 40 years for getting the escort, now we're getting 40 years for flying a chick to have consensual. I just think that's going to be the response to everything.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Those are people. I don't care about those people. I think sexual abusers should get everything they got coming to them. Yeah. And like we said on this podcast before, people are like, oh, you know, this isn't that big of a deal, like you guys said.
Starting point is 00:47:59 That video, you belong to be under the jail anyway. I'm cool. I'm cool with Leonardo getting the Oscar for the Revenant. I'm cool for some back shit. Like, I don't, care what they lock him up for. He needs to be locked out. Yeah. Period. I get when the feds can't get somebody on murder so they get him on tax evasion.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Like, all right, well, fuck. I mean, we got him in jail for something. Like, yeah. Like, right next to puff, we should put the guy that suck demarice or socks. Don't do that. Put him in the cell, right? Don't do that. It should be 1A, 1B. Very, Cubs. That is not the same. That was consensual. No, no, that was consensual. I'm just saying, I think we're just seeing the tip of iceberg with that
Starting point is 00:48:35 gentleman. Like, any guy that sucks socks is he's just letting us know how his brain is wired. He's ready to go into some whole other shit. Would you bring the sock in his evidence 1A? Yeah, Demaris would be so bad. They got her sock in a Ziplog bag. Like, how y'all even got that? Vacuum seals.
Starting point is 00:48:57 If the sock don't fit, you must have quit. The sock don't fit. They put that shit right on to me. Put it on like Cinderella. You know, baby. You know, baby. He's going to have a fresh pedicure. You know that. He ain't going to the courtroom without a pedicule.
Starting point is 00:49:09 She ain't doing that. Yo, throwing your whole foot on top of the stand. You got to do what you got to do. Got to do what you got to do. I'm happy for my sister. Y'all see her. Look at her. She's glowing.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I love shit like this. Yo, I'm messy. Me too. You know why I like shit like this? Because they're competing with each other. No, no, no. Because in six months when this is over. All said her all be together.
Starting point is 00:49:31 When Stefan is caught out with another because you know he's a super whore. He's already, I think he's dating other people openly. But this is the thing, no, nobody said they didn't come out. Yeah, no, they didn't come out and stay in a relationship. I'm not saying they are. I'm saying in six months when he's out, when he's out with his new flame and him and Cardi is not even, they don't, they stop following each other. You know all that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Stop following each other. All of that. I just love to hear the women that's like, I'm happy for my sis. Be happy when Cardi is on IG Live in six months and saying Stefan ain't shit. Be happy then too. So what you have? I think it's roll out. I think it's roll out.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Listen, big Bronx shit. I'm happy for Cargay. She had the Knit game. She had the Knit game. she's smiling. This is PR. What are we talking about? I'm just talking about the women that's online like, yes, Cardi, yeah, move on to a better
Starting point is 00:50:16 nigga. Okay. See, I never said that. I'm just saying, as women on the end of saying that. Yeah. I'm just saying those same women, I want to hear from them when this has run its course. That's all I'm saying. But why does that?
Starting point is 00:50:29 And I guess that was my issue. Because so many people, I put up a tweet about that and a TikTok about it and so many people were just like, so like, I'll never be happy for her. He just had a baby with somebody else, this, this, this, this and that. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. I don't know enough about that young man. Shout out to him. I just know he looked good and him and Cardi look like they're having a ball.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I don't get. They don't got to be Cardi next husband. That's a fact. She never came out and even said that was her man. She was just at the Knicks game sitting there. She said she was. We caught them getting out the car going to the hotel. But sometimes you canoodle with a nigga that ain't yours.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Oh, no, y'all love to do that. Oh, no, y'all love to do that canoodle with a nigga that ain't yours. Nigget that got a whole family, wife. Oh, y'all love that. He does not have a family in a wife. No, no. Put that on. Stefan.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Him? He got wives. Hell no. A wife. That nigger ain't looking for no wife. He's a Mormon. Yeah. Stefan,
Starting point is 00:51:17 he ain't looking for no wife. Stefan just want to have fun. He young, he lit, he got money. You know, he just want to have fun. Ain't nobody mad at that? I'm just saying, I think that a woman coming out of a marriage with kids. I don't know if you want to jump in that pond, is all I'm saying. Or is that the right pond to joke?
Starting point is 00:51:35 Exactly. There's no expectation. Sometimes, sometimes you need to be in that pond. on a floaty by yourself with a margarita with a fucking book. But she's been single for a while. Exactly. That's what I'm like, who says she hasn't been doing that? I'm not saying she hasn't.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I'm just saying this ain't the guy you wanted. This is not the type of guy you wanted. Or is that the exact guy? No, it's not. This is a public statement. Agreed there. This is a statement. Go to the Knicks game, court side.
Starting point is 00:52:01 They knew what they was wearing. They knew everything. They look good, they did. This is all part of the performance. We get that. Not mad at it. Cardi is happy, great. I'm just saying as a newly divorced woman with kids,
Starting point is 00:52:15 I don't think you want to make a public outing statement with a guy that's known to have babies two months apart. But, okay, so I understand what you're saying, but why? That's what I'm saying. Have fun, but I don't know if that's the guy. This is fucked up. I don't even want to say this, but it's, all right, as opposed to her ex-husband? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Again, my first thing was. Who had kids two months apart before she was with? No, my first statement was, it would have, to me, to me, And it's just to me, it would have been fly if Cardi went to the Knit game by herself. It's that court side. Better headlines. That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:52:46 But it wouldn't have been a headline. And I'm sure that she had gone to. That's Cardi B. We're not doing that. Not the same way. Not the same guy that she has been rumored. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Because it's that shit attached to it. Of course. I'm saying if Cardi B goes to a Nick playoff game by herself and sits court side, it's going to be headline. Absolutely. I don't think it makes headlines. Sure. Of course people are going to take pictures.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Of course people are going to take pictures of her things like that. Kiley and Kendall were also court side. Of course. With Timothy? Yeah, with Timothy. It's Cardi. Of course,
Starting point is 00:53:17 anytime she's out, she's going to get pictures, whatever. But no, it's not going to be this huge breaking story. Cardi's been living her life by herself with her kids. It's only a huge breaking story.
Starting point is 00:53:27 That's why this is a huge breaking story. And that she's rubbing Stefan digs his face. The nigga they said that she was fucking for months now. This is their first public eye. That's why. I'm saying it would have been just as fly, if not iller, if she's at a Nick playoff game.
Starting point is 00:53:39 game court side by herself. Okay, yeah, but I think the flyest thing is her doing what she wants to do. Let's, I just want Cardi to do whatever she wants to do. He pops out at another playoff game with the new flavor of the week and now Cardi looks crazy. And how does she look crazy? She looks crazy, man. But this is my thing. But this is my thing.
Starting point is 00:54:00 We don't know these people. We don't. And I want that to be clear. But this is a statement. But. And we know the statement they're making. No, but that's the thing. We're together.
Starting point is 00:54:09 You're a. assuming the statement they're making, you don't know that. That's what I'm saying, we don't know these people. Don't be a excuse to know that that's what that we're trying to do. Yeah, like, it's okay to say it. This is them coming out. That could be. That could be.
Starting point is 00:54:22 It is true. It is true. It ain't no could be. This is their coming out moment. It was. We're coming out at the garden. Okay. This is it. A net playoff game touching faces. This is it.
Starting point is 00:54:29 It was. Wasn't nothing on Stefan's face. But it could just be a PR move, but let's not. They didn't have nothing on it. What's she rubbing? Wasn't nothing there? He didn't have mustard on his fucking pretzel. He ain't one hot dog.
Starting point is 00:54:39 What are we talking about? I just feel like we'd be a little bit too familiar with celebs. I'm going off of- I know the game. I know what this is. I know how- What you said. I know exactly how much shit happened that day
Starting point is 00:54:50 were publicists. I know exactly how much it happened. I know who had to go to the cleaners to get a fucking leather jacket. I know who had to make sure that that motherfucking installment was done by 430. I know who had to make sure the makeup chick was there. The rings were on the right hand to do that though.
Starting point is 00:55:04 We didn't know how this goes. All step-on had to do was get a shape up. Of course. Now I got those braids redone that day for you. My point is when you said if he pops out with another chick at a different game six months from now or whatever, Cardi looks stupid. To me, she doesn't look stupid because she hasn't come out and said, this is my man, this is my husband. Even if she don't do that, she looks stupid.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Okay, well, that's your opinion. I think that celebrity. That's going to be the opinion of a lot of people. I think that's fine. Who gives a fuck. I feel like Cardi has the right to do whatever the fuck she wants to do. If she wants to go out with her low hoochee and have fun and she wants to go out with her little hoochee and have fun. If she wants to go out with her little hoochee and have fun.
Starting point is 00:55:38 fun, she has the right to do that. If people want to sit up there and say that she looks stupid, they can say that. I just personally don't think that she looks stupid. We all go out on dates. We're saying now that Cardi B is not allowed to go on any dates until she's married. No, no, no, no, that's not. Nobody ever said that. Show me somebody. Well, I didn't say that. I don't know who said it. I didn't say that. What I'm saying is, as Cardi B, this is Cardi B, we're talking about one of the biggest names celebrities in the industry to be newly divorced. and the first time you step out after your divorce is with this young NFL dude
Starting point is 00:56:10 that's known to be a super whore. It's not her first time stepping out and that's why I just want that to be seen. Publicly? She's been out. She's been out. She's been out outside. She's been caught.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I'm talking about... Oh, you mean stepping out with a person? Not with him. She's been caught. With a guy. Is this her first time stepping out with another man publicly since she was married...
Starting point is 00:56:28 No, she stepped out with him before. I understand that. But that wasn't, they didn't mean to get caught. They were still creeping. No, they meant to get caught. All right, you say that. Yeah. I'm saying it publicly to make a statement.
Starting point is 00:56:38 This is the first time. Okay. So what I'm saying... You're next to the fucking Kardashian. So what I'm saying is, I, me personally, I just think that Cardi should be wiser and who she steps out with because we know, Stefan. Stefan is just trying to have fun. Now, Cardi can be having fun too. Newly divorce.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You want to have fun. You don't want to be tied down? Great. I'm just saying it's going to look away if he's out with the new flavor of the month next week. and then Cardi is sitting on IG Live trying to defend why she stepped out of the nick game with this nigga. Well, you're not looking at the underbelly
Starting point is 00:57:12 of the competition that happens after a breakup, a long-term relationship breakup at that because Offset is posting Polaroid photos with a bunch of hoes just with dead eyes. That's pain. That's pain.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That's pain. I know pain when I hear it and I see it. That's pain. Offset is not happy. Okay. Cardi looks like she's having a ball. I know, but is that not the masterclass version of how breakups go?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Men go to a bunch of hoes that they don't like with a dead heart to just try to fuck through the pain. And then women go with somebody that's going to end up with another flavor of the week that may just look better, more richer, whatever, and goes to courtside. They're doing the same thing, just how women do it and how men do it. I know how offset can win the petty game, though. He got to go all the way, though. This is like the See he needs to enter the NFL
Starting point is 00:58:02 Somebody said Match him Christmas pajamas With another bitch No No He got to get a white woman So you take shit Too far
Starting point is 00:58:11 You ho's gonna be Svaking If off said Bobbott With a white bitch He's not gonna win the competition I'm just Shit Shit
Starting point is 00:58:23 You crazy as hell It's a whole Think Beas on Twitter right now Women like yo I ain't go a lot I'm gonna be real As a black woman If my nigga leave me
Starting point is 00:58:31 and pop out with a white bitch, I might kill everybody. That's nothing. Black women hate nothing more than when a nigger move on and his new bitch is white. That's like top God level of, I'm going to just go all the way petty on y'all niggas. I'm going to get a white bitch. So is he going to be like ice side of hockey game? Now, he got to get like a Sabrina carpenter. He's not getting Sabrina.
Starting point is 00:58:52 He got to pop out with like Sabrina Car like also got to go get Sabrina. Okay, but that's different than just getting a white woman because that's like an established, very talented. She just happens to also be well. But Sabrina Carpenter from what we know publicly is not a whore that just goes like until set turn out.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Until set turn out. Until off turn out. You know how that go? Yeah. Y'all thought she was out of my reach. No way. No, first of all, I'm not saying that she's out of his reach.
Starting point is 00:59:22 I don't know either of them. I'm just saying that's that would be the wildest relationship. Where we going? If we go, Petty, let's go Petty! I'm going to get Sabrina Carpenter. It's, all right. Stefan Diggs is easy.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Oh, yeah, that Nicky-O. Cardi B could get Stefan Diggs for sure. She's definitely, she's definitely-for-sure. He's easy. And Stefan, I don't need his dig because I've been very easy. Ah, I see your entangere. I get it. But Sabrina Carpenter, you're not just scooping up for the battle with your your ex-wife. You're not, you're not just scooping up Sabrina Carpenter. Nah, but that's, that's- He's supposed to get Lady Gaga on next?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Nah, that's a stat. That's a stat. Because you don't even think that off could, he could pull that off. If he does, then yes, he wins. This is what I'm trying to tell you. Offset, going to go get Sabrina Carpenter. Remember I told you. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:09 What about Doja Cat? Okay. Okay, both rappers. Well, Sabrina's not really a rapper, but. No, I'm just saying. I'm saying Cardi's a rapper and Doja's a rapper. Yeah, yeah. Doja, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Doja might have balls for Cardi. I want to see that. Bro, if you think. What, Dozer got bars? No, doesn't like Doge's type is like white internet guys, right? Until offset, get, y'all not seeing the, y'all not. You putting a lot of like gold on offset dick. I'm not going to hold you.
Starting point is 01:00:42 You put in a lot of gold. It means like you put in a lot of like. Don't say I'm putting gold on a nigga dick. I think everyone understood what you said. You said I'm putting gold on a nigga dick. Don't ever tell me I'm putting gold on the pedestal. No, I'm just saying, we don't know. He could be a cool, charming guy and just be like, yo, you want to go to a game with me?
Starting point is 01:00:57 We've seen him do the Michael Jackson and shit. This is what I'm saying. saying he's he's successful he's had success he's you know i saw this on the timeline speaking of white women would you rather be first in line to fight the gorilla or last in line for bonnie blue oof tough tough question i even see peach pondering now man i feel like if i'm last in line for bonnie blue put me first in line for the gorilla because i'm going to want to kill myself yeah first in line for the gorilla you're going to die yeah last in line for bonnie blue you might just want to kill yourself yeah so but you don't have to
Starting point is 01:01:29 kill yourself. No, you probably should though. You probably should if you're going to be last with Bonnie Blue. Yeah. But the gorilla... You have a lot of issues you need to work out. At least you have options with Bonnie Blue. If you... With the guerrilla, you're going to die. Okay, but at least your legacy, like you went out like a soldier, like people will respect your name forever. Your name will ring bells. If you go last with Bonnie Blue and then kill yourself, I don't know what your legacy's going to be. Yeah, but not that's why you don't kill yourself. First with the gorilla, well, all right, if you stay alive, what's the Batman should? Long enough to see your legacy. Like, you're going to become the villain.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I think your life isn't going to go well after you go last in line with you can't turn that around yeah no you're right but if my options are first to fight the grill a last you can't just be a crossing guard after that yeah no like your life is over i'm the last to to go bonnie blue though it's pussy at the end of the day no no it is pussy i'd rather get the pussy i want and then go to the front lines and die with the soldiers and then they were going to make a documentary about me a movie like my name will ring bells if i'm first i'm the first i'm the first one to go after the gorilla. No, you're the dumbest dude that ever lived.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Going last in that line is way dumber to me. Nah, hell, no. It's still a little white woman with, you know, attractive sex. Raw. Did she get her check? She tested everybody before she did the math sex with her. Fuck it, man. Do you think all the in-sails ain't nut right away?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Who? You don't think they all didn't nut right away? No. You invested in this. You want to go. I feel like you want to do it. He definitely want to be like number 27. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:03:00 For sure. You have me completely fucked up. Yeah, you don't like white women. My bad. I forgot. If you see your ex, I'm not waiting in line. If you see your ex touching wood up on the screen at Madison Square Garden and you want her back, what you do? You sitting at home watching the game.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And my girl's court side at the game? Not your ex-girl. My ex-girl. Is that a game with a football player? Courtside? What's your next move? What's your first move? White woman?
Starting point is 01:03:27 No, I mean, your first move, like, sitting there at home. Like, what's your first move? move. Oh, man, shit. Well, you got to cry. You got to get it out. You got to get it out. You got to cry.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Who is her op? Yeah. Who can I conspire with? Go fuck the girl that do her brows. Go fuck her brown lady. Do you know how much the person who does Cardi's brows is probably paid? Yeah. Go fuck her.
Starting point is 01:03:54 She's not a double your rate. She's not fucking offset. Why not? She ain't out. Offset tax bracket is price range? You don't know that she's a whore. She could just be a lady that does that brother. But she said she's not fucking offset.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Like, why not? I don't know. I've never met him. I mean, I'm not going to throw away my loyal. Yeah. You know, some women like do have loyalty to each other, right? Very few of them out there. Very few.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Women don't give a fuck about it. You just said women don't like women. You just said that. You know, you're right? You just said that. You right? You don't like women like that? Are we doing it with the offset Cardi situation or putting ourselves in that position?
Starting point is 01:04:26 Putting yourself in that situation. What do you do? And you've never been in, you know I'm a Knicks fan. And you've never like, you've never watched a game with me. Every time I said, Like every time I said like, Like yo, like y'all really get like this hype about a fucking sports team.
Starting point is 01:04:40 That's goofy. You got another nigga like you're like And then all of a sudden On your back on your jersey? Your feet are touching the, the hardwood that I've been waiting for years to be able to do. Nah, nah,
Starting point is 01:04:51 see, you're not even doing the entendres. She touching both hardwood. Yeah. Touching wood, rubbing wood on the hardwood. Oh, probably in the shoes I bought too.
Starting point is 01:05:01 That's what I'm saying. Like, you got to sit home and cry first. You got to be alone. You got to cry. Because if you don't cry, you're going to make an irrational decision, right? So you cry, you get that emotion out of you. Then you watch the replay of the game so you can see it again, right? Because you got to go back.
Starting point is 01:05:16 You got to face it again. You got to face it again. You got to look at it. You got to face the pain, right? And then you go down to all the list of women that she ever, like, has something slick to say about them. Like, oh, she thinks she cute, her body looked at. and you gotta knock them down one by one. Every girl you even accuse me of.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Yeah, I gotta go get her. I gotta go get it. First, first I would call my therapist and say, hey, your services are no longer needed. There will be no... I'm fixed.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Healing will not happen. Everything you've told me to do, I'm going to do the opposite. Yeah, I don't want to hear it. There'll be nothing about growth that's about to happen. No. We're going to go in the darkest deep...
Starting point is 01:05:57 What's that? Manchering trench, whatever the fuck that shit is called. That's a fact. I know I got that right. wrong, Josh, but look it up. That's how far I'm going when it comes to that. Maybe we'll heal in three or four years. Yeah, but right now, give me the row Sparks and let's go court side at the Sparks game. That's what we're doing. If that was, matter of fact, the northeast
Starting point is 01:06:16 exit where everyone from court side goes out, I might I might pop a row right there with, with your op and fucker right on the guard rail. All right. He's going to create. He's doing so much. He's going to create. Josh, do we have voicemails? Let's give some backstory, some timeline. Yes, entire thing. Joey had put out a freestyle, which I enjoyed over a conductor beat. Forgive me for forgetting the actual name of that record, shot the video in front of his crib, and said too much West Coast dick. And I didn't think it was a shot really at all.
Starting point is 01:06:48 I just thought it was a clever playoff of J-Line. Yeah, it was just in the middle of the battle that was going on. And it just made sense. It was just him being observant. But I also didn't mind that Ray Vaughn took that as a, hey, I'm from the West Coast so I can reply. Nothing wrong with that. And they threw shots back and forth, even daylight about two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:07:04 put out a record backpack, which is fire. First verse isn't really for me. It's a lot of skateboard shit, but the second verse, daylight went off. And kind of predicted all of Joey's bars that ended up in that Red Bull freestyle, which had Big Sean,
Starting point is 01:07:22 Absol, and Joey badass. With that said, Big Sean needs to... He needs to just go through everyone's, like, phones before they enter into it. Like, yo, what's your intentions with this record? What content are you covering?
Starting point is 01:07:40 What type of moment you're trying to have? Because Joey's verse kind of was like, the energy was different. He was going at people. So kind of outshined with Big Sean. Sean continues to have an incredible verse and then is outshine by whoever goes last and shoots at every rapper that's currently going on. And Sean, you could even see his face
Starting point is 01:07:58 when Joey even brought up control. Sean was like, I knew I should have consulted. Yeah, because it's, you know, big Sean is in this phase of like, I think he had his ayahuasca. He's very like, he's very like, you know, his girl is very zen and peaceful. So, you know, obviously some of that energy is now, you know, in him. So he's just here to display a skill set and let good music and, you know, and lay good bars down.
Starting point is 01:08:26 It's not really aggressive. It's not really like confrontational. No. But he has to read the room. He has to know that, okay, but there are guys in this room that they want smoke. Just rap smoke. Nobody's, you know, no physical. no real life harm here.
Starting point is 01:08:39 He's in the room with guys that want rap smoke. And Big Sean, he's not really there in his life. He's not here to have rap smoke with anymore. I mean, when he did his interview, I believe it was with Charlemagne when he was putting music out. It did get brought up his past issues with Kendrick and all that getting squashed and, you know, they're not being any issue. Sean did make it clear, though, if anybody does want smoke, that he was here for it.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I think even the most Zen ayahuasca people can get in that mode if need be. But I think, Phil Jackson has slapped the shit out there. I think Sean, facts. I think Sean went in there, you know, purely off water, ignored any Red Bull that was even offered. I think he was had the highest grade water. Maybe some shroom tea was as far as he was taking it. Green juice.
Starting point is 01:09:21 And had, you know, a little back and forth with Seoul, which was cute and fun. They both, I thought both had incredible verses. They all did. All they did. I love the back and forth about Janay and Seoul and their relationship and then even Seoul's girls saying that Sean was going to smoke him before. It was just a lovely double date.
Starting point is 01:09:35 This felt great. It was like a couple's, Group chat almost. Until Unique got the mic. That wasn't Joey badass. That was unique. Then Unique decided to rap. Once I saw the Pele, I'm like, I already know what type of time Joey on.
Starting point is 01:09:52 He had the Pele on. He might have had a chew stick on his head. You know when them niggas got the chew sticks. You can't argue with a nigga that got a chew stick. I'm sure when he was playing Inspector Deck, he had a chew stick. 100%. It was channeling some deck throughout that type of. 100%.
Starting point is 01:10:05 If you played deck and unique, yeah. You know what time it is when you go to the Red Bull Free See? Absolutely. So Joey decided when it was his goal that he was going to use that moment to double, triple down on this fact that yeah, I want smoke with whoever wants smoke. Like I'm here for it. Let's rap.
Starting point is 01:10:20 If y'all want to rap. And I'll be honest, that is some of the best rap and I think I've heard Joey do. Yeah. Because I mean, Joey, even though I mean, I even love his sway five-finger death freestyles. He always does good freestyles, but
Starting point is 01:10:36 Joey makes records. Yeah. That's always, even as a great rapper, he's always focused on making good records. I like the bag that he's in right now of just straight rapping. Yeah. Because I think people get Joey badass fucked up
Starting point is 01:10:48 because he only focuses on making a song better rather than barring you the fuck down. Yeah. Now, I like the daylight bars a lot. Daylight can rap. As a battle, casual battle rap fan, I've heard, we've heard a lot of those light
Starting point is 01:11:04 type of schemes before. liked hearing it from Joey Badass in that setting and not someone on a URL or dot stage in that in that regard. We've heard light schemes. I even love that when I fly. I'll even pack light. Like I liked a lot of shit that he was saying. He got, he got, Joey got his.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It was very clever, very unique. But very unique. This is what scares me. As I'm championed Joey Baddice, the same way the West Coast is all latched on and made the thing. I'm making an East Coast thing. Whatever Joey Badass does, I'm ride with him. Fuck everybody else is New York City no matter what.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Oh, that's a fact. But with that said, did you listen to Backpack by Daylight two weeks ago? Did I? Yes. No. He legitimately predicted the entire verse that Joey put down as far as four bars, blank, blank, blank, add in the word daylight. He's did the fucking Star Moon, Intergalactic.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I don't need those light gears to buzz. He even predicted the Ray Vaughan sun ray line in that whole shit. You're just dealing with somebody that has, legitimately made a career out of being this diabolical and predicting what people's bar is going to be. He said everything Joey said two weeks ago about what was going to be said about him. But we know daylight the way he thinks. If you ever seen daylight battle and the schemes that he comes up with and the way that he plays off of metaphors and words, he's very in tune on a different level.
Starting point is 01:12:27 You know, he just, and then it's that, it's a thing that I think rappers have where you can kind of dictate and, you know, hearing somebody's flows over the years and how they play with their words, their entendres and things like that. You can kind of, as another writer and MC, you can kind of get into the way they think. Oh, remember the era when, like, Sirius Jones and I feel like Solomon? A lot of them would try to finish the person they were battling's bars just to show, like, dogs was the most predictable steam ever.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I missed that era. That almost started a lot of fights. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can't finish somebody bar before them. Series Jones did that in the entire MOOC battle when it was him. and one other person and Mook had all of Harlem. I was like, all right, serious, good luck. Getting out of there.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Tad on his head. Oh, no, that was it. Nothing after that, everything was different for serious. And again, I mean, it's not crazy to predict a lot of the daylight, light type of schemes, especially when Joey's not a battle rapper. But I thought it was a great verse, great temperature check. Also a great way to be like, all right, I am replying. If you guys want to take this West Coast dick looking bar too far, fine.
Starting point is 01:13:31 All right, we're in the ring now. Fuck it. Ray Vaughn replies, which we, of course, we saw coming. And can we be unbiased today? No? Sure. Okay. I liked Rayvon's reply.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I knew obviously he was going to come right away, not because he has nothing going on, but this is a big moment for him. Joey Badass is established rapper. Rayvon just put out a project. This would be a great time. And he's been fishing for beef with it. I've been fishing for beef with you for no reason. Like, he's legitimately finding anyone to have an issue with to get some attention
Starting point is 01:14:02 and promo, which I, don't knock. I get it. I do. I think that's a little nasty, but I'm not mad at it. If you do in a creative way, I'm cool with it. With you in the podcast shit, I don't know, whatever, I guess it's part of social media now. I did like his reply. I thought he had some bars in it. I didn't like, and the West Coast is going to be mad at my East Coast view of this. I didn't like that he was just trying to recreate a GNX song, but I did like the record, and I thought he had some bars. We know he can rap. We know Ray Vaughn can rap. I just think that I don't know if Ray Vaughn is as good as he thinks he is yet.
Starting point is 01:14:37 All right, break that down for me. Not because you know how, because this is a, you know, this is a, it's a good moment for Ray Vaughn. He's trying to put out a project, trying to keep his name in the algorithms. You know, you insert yourself in things. Or if you feel like somebody said your name or they didn't, if you want to rap, you can rap. It's studios everywhere. Mike's turning on.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I'm never mad when rappers want to rap. I like that. But I think that Ray Vaughn may have been getting just. a little out of his lane when it comes to rapping with Joey badass or, you know. Well, I mean, Ray's, he's
Starting point is 01:15:11 known more for his freestyles just based off, again, the other. He has one of my favorite freestyles on LA Leakers, for sure. Leakers, he went fucking nuts, especially on the Beansby. Those have overshadowed his music. I don't mind the mixtape you just put out. There's definitely some joints on there, but everything is going to be overshadowed. We talked about this with Simba, too.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Simba, who makes great music, complains, too. He's like, dog, people just want to hear my fucking freestyles. It's starting to get annoying. So Ray's not the only one. That's why I think this is more his lane than it is Joey's. We've never really seen Joey outside of the Troy Ave thing, which I mean, I think he beat Troy Ave just based off the sway freestyle alone.
Starting point is 01:15:46 We've never seen him really in a real back and forth. Ray Vaughn just be wrapping his ass off all the time. Yeah, no, 100%. But that's where I think he may be out of it because, you know, because Joey doesn't get into this type of shit often, that don't mean that he can't get into this type of shit. And I think that's what people are learning now because he didn't put out a response to Ray Vaughan. You know what I mean? So we heard that.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Again, some of the best rapping, I think Joey is doing this right now. And I mean, you know, there was great bars in this, what was it, Ho era, I believe, based off a playoff pro era. He had a lot of great bars in there. Of course, the end was the one that Twitter attached themselves to because they care really less about bars and more about salacious shit. but I like this end. I'm Snoop Dog kicking over his little fort, which I was offended by that. Snoop Dog kicking over his little fort.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Remember when Snoop Dog kicked over the tower in Queens? Yeah. Now he's calling us a little fort. No, that's not what that was. That was the play of Baby Boy. Yeah. Oh, shit, okay. When Snoop was in Baby Boy?
Starting point is 01:16:47 Then was it not an entendre? When Snoop Dog was knocking over the... It could have been. He kicked over the buildings in Medvedo. I forgot a baby boy. That was a little kid built a fort in the living room. A bitch you watched. You carry a no torch.
Starting point is 01:16:59 let Ice Spice turn into the King of New York. It's a great bar. No, listen. He can rap. Smoke that. And he made a point. We had this entire conversation when Joey did that freestyle of the King of New York shit and where Joey's disappearance for a little bit during the acting thing is kind of like
Starting point is 01:17:18 left us in a really weird place, New York wise. I mean, yes, we have great singles, but there hasn't been a real established rapper that we felt has been carrying any real torch. That's why we love that Joey Badass was back. So Ray Vaughn right there, like one-up based off just the Red Bull freestyle. I thought Rayvon went off. And it's a catchy song. I still am in my GNX shit.
Starting point is 01:17:43 So it was an easy listen because I've been listening to GNX a lot. But I don't know. Is this what the West Coast is going to be for the next year? As far as what? I know GNX is based off a bay in LA sound already. I'm not stupid. Everyone calm down. But this was like directly, directly GNX, not just West Coast.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Does that make sense? Well, I mean, Kendrick is, obviously, he's the guy on the West Coast now. And I think anybody coming up, especially if you're affiliated with TD. I think that it's, you know, some of that is going to kind of linger around and you're going to kind of pick up some of that energy and it's going to start to sound familiar, feel familiar. Even Ray Vaughan in the video, the way he's moving and dancing felt a little Kendrick-ish. But I'm not mad at it. I mean, he's the guy right now.
Starting point is 01:18:28 No, no, for sure. And it just, I mean, I guess down to the hook, the hook was very GNX and even the ad libs. Like, again, despite all of our innocent back and forth, I follow Rayvon. I think he's talented. He's never had adlibs. Like, what? Like, dole, that's a direct GNX. You're just throwing in GNX adlibs and the chingrich.
Starting point is 01:18:46 It's not Ginnis Kendrick. Yeah. But I'm saying that specific type. Yeah, I mean, but that's what's supposed to happen. Oh, what? Like, you don't even talk that way. You know, don't say that. Don't.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I don't know how he talked. Like, because I've heard him. to Ray Vaughn for five years. On the LA Legal Streetstock, I promise you you sounded nothing like that. Not even close. Shut up. Stop talking. I'm tripping and I'm loving it.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Please stop. Anyways, I'm joking around. Rayvon, I thought Hoera was an amazing response to the Red Bullshit. But as we were walking into the studio today, Joey Badass released the finals, I believe it was. And cooked boots. Boots are cooked. Demaris, can you open that oven and grab them boots out of there? I got you.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Please do that. Here's the thing. Ravon made a good song with a lot of good retorts, a good battle record, and a good song. Joey just got right to it and did a fucking 94 bar dog scheme
Starting point is 01:19:44 from Top Dog Entertainment that I'm still decoding to this moment. I did not know Joey could rap that well. And this is not my New York bias. He just got straight to the shits and said, no, I'm not doing this fucking fun record shit that y'all are doing with your beef.
Starting point is 01:19:59 No, I'm going to run. write on a beat that I will put my vocals on top of. Who gives a fuck about the beat? I'm going to tear your ass up. And he did. Listen, I keep telling y'all, we were in Atlanta at JD Studio. The way Joey was looking at Bow Wow's plaque on that wall, he was reading that shit. Like, we were at the MLK exhibit.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Please. And I couldn't make the, I'm like, and he was like, yo, you don't understand. Like, he's the reason I started rapping. And I'm like, I've never heard. Maybe I'm just getting old. And I've never heard anybody say bow wow is the reason I started rapping. That is nothing about Joey Badass says bow wow is the reason this guy started rapping. But I mean, like I was telling me, me and Joey are around the same age.
Starting point is 01:20:42 I had beware of the dog. I knew every lyric to it because I was 11. Listen, bow wow was a fucking megastar. He was a phenom. He was one of the few rappers that could say when I went outside, I caused pandemonium. Like they chased me in the malls. You rap niggas don't get. chasing because a nigga trying to kill you.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Hawaiian is trying to spin the block on one of you. And don't get that video of him not being chased where he said he was being chased. No, that's, he actually used to be chased. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the internet just fucking with Bauer. No, that's Bauer's fucking with himself. Yeah, he's really been, Bawa has been chased through malls before. It's happened. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:21:15 That's not the guy that I would think influenced the gentleman we just heard on this freestyle to start rapping. He said you don't need an optician to see Ray Bans. That's not a hard part of you When Raising Canaan started When that shit Unique on their ass, yo Unique not playing with y'all
Starting point is 01:21:36 They are again Y'all don't know that Joey didn't have these bars He didn't have this shit in the crock pot He couldn't wait to release this He didn't just write this I mean he came back in less than 24 hours Because he had that shit recorded already This shit been done man
Starting point is 01:21:51 Joey had all of this shit cooking when he released the first one and he said too much West Coast dick. He got verses for all you West Coast niggas. If y'all don't know that already. He's here to rap. Joey won a rap and I'm not mad at that. I love that.
Starting point is 01:22:05 He's here to rap. Just the first like 24 of the amount of schemes he did with with a dog is insane. I really did not know Joey was this good of rap. I'll be honest with you. I really didn't. I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I knew he was good, but I didn't know he was this. I had, I was not, I had, I did not expect Joey badass to perform the way he's performing right now. I'm gonna be honest. I always knew he could rap and he had a style, you know, but Joey was, I always looked at him as a guy that was more of a slick talker, shit talker. Yeah. You know, he was one of those dudes like, okay, he's getting this shit off. But no, he's, he's rapping. He's rapping on this. Yeah, no, he, I mean, even just out the gate, kind of top dog as you, you're more of a shih Tzu. Listen, let's get into it. You was cloned in the lab, just what I was talking about with
Starting point is 01:22:49 Bays. She's not supposed to exist. No. Yeah. You artificial. you know him for your label, not because your arts official. I ain't going to talk about how you broke you are to fix you. Listen, man. And then he just does a 34 here of just schemes after that. I'm saying right now we're just going off the whole era versus this. Joey Badass is up one nothing. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 01:23:17 100%. Just based off facts that he said in there and actual bars. Now, if I were to get in the car, I'd probably put on the Rayvon record first. It's a better song. But if we're just doing the battle shit, and Rayvon, for what we know, is just about the raps, you are down one nothing right now. Oof, on the Lotto, I really think you niggas is homo. The way you let dot dick sit in your mouth.
Starting point is 01:23:39 It's that same dick licking I was talking about. You niggas would do anything for clout crash out over niggas who won't even let you in their house. And he said, I bet you don't, bet you don't even have his number. He don't. Ooh. I like this type of shit, though. Me?
Starting point is 01:23:55 Oh, man, I love this type of shit. This is hip hop. This is the type of shit I like. And again, only just keep it wax. Keep it rhymes. I love. I mean, Joey said that shit in the Red Bull freestyle. Yeah, just keep it wraps, man.
Starting point is 01:24:05 As long as we keep it wraps and everybody can get their shit off, you know, I don't know Ray Vaugham been talking slick about me, whatever, man. I don't take none of that. They called him Gayvon. Why? He's gay. No, but that's what, that's what he was saying in the. Gayvon is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Oh. Well, I mean, you know, it is what it is. an I-heart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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