New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 5/19

Episode Date: May 25, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal we talk Joey Bad@$$ wiping out the west coast, Mal and Demaris battle in "Homie Court", and advice to a caller goes off the rails when Rory and Mal suggest Couples Figh...t Club as an option for a date #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Catch live events and other exclusive sports programs only on VICE TV. Go to vice TV.com to find your cable channel. The volume. Who winning, man? Who winning? The Wester or Joey Badass? I know people are going to think there's bias here. I'm asking you, the West or Joey Baddow? The same way the Knicks are the greatest dynasty in NBA history, that's over here.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I'm taking my bias hat off now. Joey Badass is cleaning up the whole fucking West Coast right now by himself. Damn. Does Joey Badass even need to reply? Let me snitch. This is kind of like, I'm being truthful here. And I know we already have that stigma on us that we dislike TDE in the West Coast, which is completely false. If you look in the fucking facts, that's just so stupid.
Starting point is 00:01:24 My 10 favorite albums of last year, four out of the five were from the West Coast. Five out of the 10 were in the West Coast or 10. TDE. So fuck all that and biases and comments under this. Let's go with facts. Rayvon had a great response. I liked it. Joey badass barred him the fuck up. And then Daylight, who I came on this last episode, who I think is one of the greatest battle rappers that's ever existed. He's a different type of tier. Put out a fucking dud that I don't even know if Joey needs to reply. And I know Joey is mad at home because all he wanted to do was reply to daylight. I'm sure he has records already recorded about daylight.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Even said in his Ray Vaughn reply, I'm done with you, Ray, I only want to focus on daylight. He's on my level. I know Joey and his team are sitting in the studio right now going, I mean, do we even put these out? Do we even engage in this? Joey cleaned all of you up. Reason, I loved your reply.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I was one that encouraged you on air on Twitter. I love your response. But yours is also kind of to the side of the back forth, he deserved to be entered into the chat with that. And he smoked it, but I don't consider it the back and forth shit. If we're going just based off everyone that's trying to jump Joey
Starting point is 00:02:40 from the West Coast, you guys are losing. Bad. A-Z, you have my favorite, not A-Z, Brooklyn A-Z, L-A-Z. You had my favorite feature on GNX. I even did some weird shit
Starting point is 00:02:56 and followed you on Instagram the day GNX came. I was like, this guy is fire. you make great music. Stick to that. I don't need to hear your battle reps. You didn't do a dent. Daylight, one of the greatest battle rappers of all time. It was cool.
Starting point is 00:03:12 It's not enough. It was underwhelming. By daylight standards. There was definitely some cool bars in there. Don't get me wrong, but no. Daylight is daylight. I think Daylight's second verse on Backpack is 10 times better than his full disc that he just put out to Joey. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Joey Badass is smoking the entire West Coast right now. Well, don't say the entire West Coast. Talk about everybody. Everyone's trying to jump him. Everybody he's speaking to and about. Yeah. You know, I'm talking about everyone that's trying to... Getting the ring with him.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah. Yeah. And they posted the whole timeline of the amount of people that's replied. Joey is by himself, and this isn't going to be shit on the West Coast. This is also going to be a homie court moment for our city. Thank God Joey handled this by himself. Because this could have got bad. nobody is with us
Starting point is 00:04:02 Joey is by him fucking self he's getting jumped and holding his own while the rest of us in New York City are just waiting on the Pacers we also have a fight going on over here in New York City no no no no because I love Joe Action Bronson somebody no you don't get to go
Starting point is 00:04:19 go to these people party stab three of their niggas and then be like yo out of nowhere stabbed three of their niggas and then be like yo why ain't nobody helping me nigga we came here to party you over here fighting with these niggas and now they're jumping on you. No, I'm not helping you. I'm not coming out of the... I'm not stopping talking to the bad bitches
Starting point is 00:04:35 because you wanted to start a fight in the party when nobody was fucking with you. Yeah, but the thing you're not talking to Demaris says, Joey don't need no help. He don't need no help. But you can't be bad at rappers for not doing it. No, he ain't... Joey ain't mad. Man, listen, man, Joey is out rapping all of y'all.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It just is what it is. Oh, show. No, but all right, I hear you. But I've had friends that I know can fight really well and when they get in an issue, I know they don't need my help, but that's still my man's. So I'll hold your jacket. Don't ruin that jacket.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I got you, bro. I'm still going to be right there with you. You don't need my help. I will make sure that the car is ready to go because someone's going to call the cops. There's still ways to be a present friend when you know your man's can hold it down. Like. Oh, also. Can we show some unity?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Also, everybody. Can Jalen Brunson talk to somebody in the rap community in New York City? Everybody talking about where Griselda, where stove got? No. We live in Canada. Remember? We're not New Yorkers. I don't know. I don't know who asking for Brazeld, but one thing y'all niggas,
Starting point is 00:05:33 whoever said that, y'all do not want Conway and Benny to start raping. But they're saying is they're like, come help us. Y'all don't want West to start rapping. Yeah, y'all want that. They're like, come help us. No, no, no, no, no. Y'all tell us, we not New Yorkers all the time. Listen, Joey badass is outwrapping all the y'all.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Daylight, one of my favorite battle rappers, and I was anticipating hearing what he had to say and all of this and what he was going to come out. I was very underwhelmed. very underwhelmed by the video, the song he dropped. I didn't even like the beat flipped. I don't like the way they chopped the sample. And it's crazy because, and speaking to some rappers and some artists, you know, by all this is going on.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You know, a few of them definitely was like, yo, daylight is not built for this. And on that stage, on that battle rap stage with no beat, oh yeah. But now when you got to put a beat on and you got to have flow and you got to do, it's a little different. But if you remember last episode when I was big in up daylight, I said him and surf are the only two battle rappers that I also like their music. Like they make, that's why I was so terrified for Joey. I feel, I don't even want to listen back to our last episode of how much I was like, I'm really terrified for Joey badass. I think daylight is the worst opponent you could run into because he can do both things. And now I feel stupid.
Starting point is 00:06:50 As a huge daylight fan, I feel dumb. As a daylight, as somebody that always wants to hear. what daylight has to say and, you know, appreciate his rhymes and his battles, I was very underwhelmed at this, at this attempt. Okay. I mean, I know Pige is going to clip this up and Daylit's probably going to end up hating us, but let's still do it for the... Daylit. Daylit is crazy. That's why I'm going to hate you. Daylit. Did I say daylight? Did I say daylit? You said daylight. Oh, daylight. I'm... Dislexic. We were having a conversation off mic because
Starting point is 00:07:20 daylight did say that this was kind of just warming up, like, the first round type shit. I don't like in this microwave era of people's attention spans being so short, why are you wasting around? Like, now Joey doesn't even need to reply. Why didn't you get all your shit out on the first, first one to some degree? He's saying it's just a warm up.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I don't even know if we're going to get to the next round. The game started. The game has started. This ain't the layup line. The game has started. He was trying to allude in that reply. Like, yo, we're just getting started here. This is a warm up.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I'm not even going crazy. Ain't no warm up. But the game is all. I'm not saying use all your. shit, obviously. It's art of war, but out the gate. Now Joey does not need to reply. I don't think anyone would be like damn, Joey's scared of daylight.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Joey, don't respond. Don't respond. Joey Badass does not need to respond. This is over. It was cool while it lasted. Got the internet going. You know, rap. People got in a booth. I respect it. But this is not. It's, it's, they, y'all can't rap with Joey badass. Y'all can't. And I, going into this, I would expect this to be
Starting point is 00:08:25 much more entertaining, much closer. But after listening to everything over the weekend and now he had daylight, you know, when he dropped it today. He dropped it today, right? Right, the hour before we started to record. It's just not. If I missed a bunch of entendres,
Starting point is 00:08:39 cool, because we just started recording. But also that, like, I'm still of the belief that disc records and battle rap records still need to have some level of surface. Like, certain, it can be, certain shit needs to hit. It can be too cerebral.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It has to be more cool, has to be more witty, it has to be more clever, it has to be, you know, those types of things. And I get it with daylight. He's, you know, he just thinks on a different level. But it has to connect, though. Like, it has to connect. Like, don't break it down for me on a podcast and tell me bars that he said and why he said it. If it don't hit when I'm listening to it and the song is on, all this other shit after it's like, I get it. But it just don't land.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It didn't land. That shit is not landing. Joey went in there and he had style, he had clever shit, he had cool shit, he checked all the boxes when you want to, you know, like it's, again, this is a friendly fate. This is just like going at some guys and testing the pen and seeing who got what, you know. But, I mean, it's clear after this, you know, Joey Badass is out rapping all of y'all. And, I mean, to your point before, I think Daylight absolutely can rap with Joey Badass. So if he puts out another reply tomorrow and it's good, does Joey have to reply? No. Even if it's really good. No.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Because I think daylight could save this if he quickly comes back with more of a haymaker and kind of forces. Because Joey was the one saying with the Ray Vaughn shit. I only want to daylight. That's who I want to battle. Yeah, but we got the record. So now you don't get to get the record. People respond to it. Well, again, we respondent to it.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I don't know what other people feel about it. They may love it. They may think it's incredible. I'm just saying we responded to it We don't think it's worth responding to It's like And you're saying it was the warm up game one whatever So what is it? Daylight and Six?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Are we going that route? Like come on that man If he changes the energy by coming right back With something that absolutely hits That forces Joey Yeah, then at that point Joey Which is what Joey wanted to smoke Listen I'm all for people putting out
Starting point is 00:10:47 Dope rhymes and dope records Cool whenever you want to put it out Whether you battle and whatever it, I'm going to listen to it. But I don't think that Joey has to sit back and like, okay, I'll respond to that one. Because then it's like, what are we doing at this point? Like, you're just going to just drop a record until you get a reaction? And I guess, I don't know, what I'm trying to figure out to outside looking in, as someone
Starting point is 00:11:07 that really fucks with daylight. What was the strategy here? Because you came to New York and shot the video. You definitely put a lot into this. Why wouldn't that be the haymaker? If you're going to do all of this with a video, fly to New York, do this entire thing. Why wouldn't that be the joint? Why not do a temperature check, throw it out real quick, and then the haymaker be the one that you come to New York and shoot everything?
Starting point is 00:11:31 It kind of just felt like a waste of time. If you are going to continue, why wouldn't, like, you shot a video and you're talking about like, this is just the first round, like, I'm just chilling. Then why are you on the A train right now? Yeah. Like, do that for the one. Yeah, this is not, and it's no chilling. What is this chilling you keep talking about? Like, the fight is on.
Starting point is 00:11:53 The fight has started. And you know what I also don't like in battle rap? And this is just speaking as a fan. Like, unfortunately, there is no real rules in battle rap. Rest in peace to capital C's condolences to his entire family. I don't think it was crazy that Daylight brought him up. He posted a photo. We knew it was coming.
Starting point is 00:12:12 given this whole cryptic shit about why Steve's jumped off and knowing something about Joey like if you don't really have information about that don't set up that scheme because now you have to tell us you have to finish that ball and don't give me a cliff angle for song too like no and if you don't really have something
Starting point is 00:12:34 that's going to be crazy now I feel like all right now you're wasting even going over the line because that's what battle rap does Now you're even wasting something on the capital C shit and you don't really have any information. You're trying to make us think you have something. I don't personally, I just don't think I could be completely wrong. Play this clip when I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I don't think daylight has some crazy info that Capital Stees off himself because of something that Joey did or knew about Joey. Like, I just don't believe that. Just my gut tells me that. I think he was probably going through a lot of things that people go through. So if you're setting that up, and Daylight being the master of this craft the way he is. If you don't have the info, don't set the scheme up that way.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. Because now you can't just leave that. Now you have to tell us what that is. I think that what Daylight does best is perform, battle rap. It's obviously different on a beat, a record. Now, if Joey and Daylight are on stage, no beat and just, you know, able to go at each other, I think that daylight fares way different in that type of environment.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I just think now you're talking about making a song and beat and, you know, music. And I just think that's a little, more elements added to it. So daylight is not going to look as good as Joey does in that because this is what Joey does. Joey makes songs. He makes music. He raps, you know, on beat and things like that. Now on stage and you let daylight just have his time and let him perform and let him get into his antics and, you know, get into his theatrics. I think that that's the better environment for daylight.
Starting point is 00:14:12 But this, what Daylight did, as somebody that loves daylight and fuck with him, you know, love his rhymes and his battles. I was very disappointed and underwhelmed at, what is the name of this? I've heard of my mother. I have something like that. Tim's.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Or de Mimva or something like that. It's weird. Whatever the corny New York jokes they make on the floor. Yeah, I don't know how you even say it. But I was disappointed. I'm not going to lie. I was very, very disappointed. I do want to challenge West Coast media, West Coast Twitter, West Coast rappers, West Coast execs.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I came in here and ate Humble Pie multiple times to say that 2024 was the greatest year I've ever seen a Coast have. Down to the point that I came in here, like, even their MLS team won the championship. Like, duh, what the fuck? We cannot beat L.A. They had a fucking year. Then the Dodgers went? I came in here and the Dodgers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:10 They won everything. Yeah. Came in here and gave them their props objectively. I know you guys are still on your victory lap. I get it. West Coast had a moment. I need you guys to be the objective people that you claim to be. Joey Badass by himself is cooking everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:31 That's a fair. You guys are rat fans, ones I respect. I know deep down in your soul, you know Joey Badass is cooking everybody. And I need you guys. We're head at. I need you guys. With Jeremy. Show how objective you guys claim to be.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Hey, West Coast Wilson. What you think about? What do you think about Joey? Ready to start EV all over again. Ready to go back to East Village Radio? I like East Village Radio. I love East Village Radio. Walk up in the street and watch it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Joey might be in the city. All right. So do we want to start with this or do we want to get to homey court? Nah, let's start with this. Okay. All right. We're going to go. We're going to parlay us into holding court, though.
Starting point is 00:16:16 This is going to parley us. I'll read this. Do you want back story? Give some backstory. Okay. So I woke up first thing in the morning. I'm not going to say anything like I did in that clip. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I woke up and there is a clip page that clips, you know, they wake up. The moment we drop, they clip anything that they think can be inflammatory. So they made a clip of our. Inflammatory. They made a clip of me standing up for women and a little bit of the Cardi conversation was in it and then it got cut out. I love how you just worded that. They clipped me standing up for women.
Starting point is 00:16:45 They did. That wasn't the headline. They clipped me being an advocate. An advocate. And a little bit of, when Rory said, is Cardi going to take accountability? They clipped and then left like the rest of the context out. They didn't hear like more really shitting on Cardi. Like they didn't hear any of that, right?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Oh, we're getting to homey court early. So. I should have, I didn't, I should go get there. So that clip kind of went viral. Cardi's fans got a hold of it. And Cardi obviously saw it. And she felt some type of way because all she saw was Rory saying is Cardi going to take accountability, right? So she then drops in her broadcast on IG, basically a paragraph saying, no sympathy shit because I live and learn.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I've been through worse in life, but I went through so much shit and deceit. And I don't tell my story and put these nasty bitches on blast because I've seen God handle every woman and the men that put tears in my eyes and pain in my heart in the worst way. When a white man like Rory talking about, I need to be held accountable for shit, he don't know one thing about it really makes me see red. This is not a competition. This is me taking baby steps to finally feeling happy. seeing my sky blue with birds and trees again. Damn the dick good. See in my sky blue with birds and trees again
Starting point is 00:17:47 instead of rainy days. I feel lightweight, motivated in love with life, in love with love with my career, and most importantly, in love with my three kids, no matter what. Shut the fuck up, you white bitch before I light a match up your ass. That's so, like, poetic.
Starting point is 00:18:00 All right, so I feel like my ass needs to be in the rafters at this point because Nikki put a broomstick up there and now Cardi B is putting a match. Well, Cardi's going to like the, you know, the end of the broom that's hanging out your ass, Cardi's going to like that. All right. Let's find the positives here.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Can we be happy that I'll take the credit? You know what? Fuck it. I'm tired of being humble. I will take the credit in finding the one thing Cardi B and Nikki Minaj can agree on. And it's that I'm a white bitch that deserves something in his ass. Okay. I ended the Nikki and Cardi beef based off their mutual hate.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Hate for me in agreement that I should not be speaking. about anything cultural. Right. So, yeah, I take pride in that. Okay. I think that's like something that I contributed to the culture. I brought Cardi and Nikki together. If you guys can never agree on anything else,
Starting point is 00:18:55 they both hate you. Over here, at least we can find this place. Yeah, I never see. We come together here. We know that we dislike this gentleman. Share the same, yes. And you deserve to be sodomized. Yeah, I haven't seen bars.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Deservedly solomized. It's hilarious. I haven't seen Barbes and Barty Gang agree on anything ever in life. And they were, you had both families. type of complexion to do that. On your ass. I was like, I mean, in your ass, apparently. It was absolutely insane. Well, what's funny is I'm still trying to get like some free data in my phone from the Swifties. What I also found funny is that the Swifties and what's, what's Cardys? Barty Gang. Barty Gang and the Swifties also agree with something that I'm a white bitch.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah. Yes. You know, the Swifties are more racist than party gang. I got called more racial things by the Swifties than anyone in part of it. Because they want to call you a but they can't. Yeah, exactly. So they call you white bitch instead. And you know it's a white person behind the- 100%. Exactly. Self-hate. Love it. It's definitely self-hate. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:53 But I got them up off your ass. I stood up for you. Yes, Cardi did apologize. She said, oh, sorry, Rory. But I understand. We all see clips and take things out of context. And then she saw the real clip and, you know, smoke went to mall. But I'm here to disappoint like all of this. the internet streets with like maturity. I know this was like a green light. I even saw the comments for the first time ever people were on my side.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Like damn, I was fucked up. He didn't even say anything. Finally, this could be my moment to be like all the other media personalities and scream at the top of my fucking lungs. And I'd be right. Right. Ah, women. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, yeah. Fucking women. Yeah, yeah. Like I could be that guy. I could threaten her, all that. But I did not go that route. Cardi B and I spoke. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But the whole afternoon, I won't reveal the entire conversation. This is a private conversation. But we had a great talk. Good. And I think that can also happen in media. We don't all need to just scream at the camera because we get one little green light from one miscommunication. Now it's like, well, you can't dictate how someone replies.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Right. I can, yeah. I can reach out and I don't think it compromise anything. If Cardi B puts out a bad song that I don't like, I'll say I don't like it. Is that a great song? It's never happened though. That's, I mean, I agree.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But I'm saying nothing was compromised because we had a great conversation and spoke. I thought that was. If there's going to be, if she put out a great song, I say it's great. Bad song? I'll say it's bad. But I also think there's a world where people, especially if we are talking about Cardi B's personal life, has every right to have an opinion about how I speak about that. I'm talking about her life.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So having a private combo with her that was calm and super positive and came to an understanding, that's fine too. Yeah. We don't need to take these moments to just scream at the top of our lungs for clicks for one day. And then it's going to move on to the next person that's screaming at a woman. Yeah. I just don't see anything in it. And I know all the internet comments are going to be like, oh, it's compromise.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Now trying to be cool, Cardi. Like, that's so corny. I just think it was a cool human moment. She's going through something. We spoke about it. I talked to her about it. found understanding will still always be objective, but it doesn't have to be a green light
Starting point is 00:22:15 to start screaming at Cardi B now because she said white bitch. And I also believe in double standards for everyone in that comments. What if Rory said black bitch? I'd say get Rory the fuck out the paint. Y'all would see me on camera with the Roy Gass. I'm a big advocate of double standards. Double standards exist.
Starting point is 00:22:31 No, Cardi B calling me a white bitch is not the equivalent of Rory calling Cardi a black bitch. I don't know where the fuck y'all are getting that from. Yeah, no. No, definitely not. But that would you feel if Rory said that, they would feel upset as they should. Yeah, I thought it was classy that she did say, she did apologize. I thought that was classic.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But I did want to know if you were still a white bitch, though. No. I was actually like hoping, like during our conversation on Saturday afternoon that like at the end she was going to double down. Like, but you still like are a white bitch. Damn. She didn't double down? No. Damn.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Fuck. But shout to Cardi. We had a great conversation. Maybe one day. we can have her on the show. Maybe one day. I would love to talk to Cardi. Big Bronx shit.
Starting point is 00:23:14 But that would be, she would come to see Demaris. Like, even though we had a good conversation, I'm well aware that my Cardi relationship is, I'm the plus one. Like, that's her home girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Like, I'm just Damaris's front. Yeah. I don't even think she said my name. That's why why everybody was mad. I'm like, you're like, you're like, I've been on a podcast with you before in like 2015. I think,
Starting point is 00:23:37 I think tax us was the first time he was ever on a podcast. Yeah. Shout out the cardio, though, man. Yeah, no, it was a great, mature, one of the more mature combos I've had in my podcasting career, because we've talked about it, plenty of artists have reached out and, like, had awkward moments. Despite that, the energy there was not that.
Starting point is 00:24:00 It was very much progressive, like, oh, yes, I saw the wrong clip. But on my side, too, I was like, we was talking about your life. Like you're allowed to feel away And especially my dumbass white face I get it Now Damaris jumped in it This is the real shit This is yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:24:18 This is where we scream Shout out to Cardi Much love to Cardi We love Cardi Now here's where DeMaris comes in at And I quote You've never said that in your life And I'm just saying that
Starting point is 00:24:29 I quote I feel bad Because Rory was just joking To segue the topic He wasn't being negative Paul deserves this smoke. He was the one arguing with us. Now, what did I say that was negative
Starting point is 00:24:46 or could be deemed negative about party? Before we get there, because of course we want to give the Florida Damaris to reply, with this thought, oh, I feel bad because Rory was just joking to segue the topic. He wasn't being negative, period. That's all the tweet needed to be.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It could have ended right there. But we're going to give the defendant. I just want to show that the second sentence, you still get the Cardi B apology, you still get the context. Right. You still lighten move. A great thought. She still protects a friend and a coworker. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:21 From Barty Gang. But it seemed a second sentence needed to be said. As if the clip was not right below. Right. The floor is yours, Senator. How was the floor mine? What? What?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Nick! What? What? What you mean? What? What are you going to say? May, Mall deserves this moment. First of all, I also want to let it be known that I was not the first person to say that.
Starting point is 00:25:44 If you go to the response of that, everybody, every single person responded to say, wait, Mall is the one going off. Everybody said that. How did I, all right, so remind me, because y'all know I sit here and we talk about shit and kicking sometime. Well, in comparison to Rory, you were the one saying Cardi's going to look stupid when this man basically cheats on her and embarrasses her. This isn't the niggas she should pop out with yada yada.
Starting point is 00:26:05 That's what you were saying. That's talking shit about Cardi? No, it's not about talking shit, but you talking shit about her business when you don't exactly know what you're talking about, which was what she was saying in that paragraph, but to Rory. That's what I'm like, okay, but Rory isn't the one that said that. Maul is the one that. Did Rory say that Cardi needs to take accountability? Yes, but he, but he said that to segue. He just said that to segue.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And then he was like nothing. Yeah, but I said she doesn't. But I said, I said, and I deserved this one. Like, I didn't say nothing negative about Cardi. I was just saying like, yo, you know, Stefan Diggs has a, he has a reputation. He's a playboy. But you also said that she's going to look stupid. Listen, even if you truly believe that you're right, even if you are right, a person who
Starting point is 00:26:45 you're sent up, they're talking about their love life, their personal life, which is very personal, they have every right to respond to the way that you frame them looking stupid with dating who they're dating. When you're not in their bedroom, you're not in their phone, you don't know what's going on. Okay. Now, let me say this. When you pop out and make the statement that they did that they're dating or they're together right now, I have a podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:06 of a platform. It is directly my job to speak about that. I agree. You made it a point to step out and make a state. That was a statement. Going to a Nick playoff game sitting courtside to high profile people. That's a statement. We're together. So now I said and I talked about it. All I was trying to say now, I'm not saying maybe the words shouldn't have been, Cardi's going to look stupid. I want to say that. I love Cardi. I don't want to say she's going to look stupid. But meaning like, okay, now if it pops up that stuff on is on a date with somebody else next week or caught creeping out of a hotel another girl next week. You think people are not going to flood Cardi's mentions and say, yo, like, ain't this your
Starting point is 00:27:45 man? Is this your, the dude you was just dating? Of course. But I can't be mad at somebody. It is our job to have certain conversations about certain things, even things that we don't exactly care about, right? But people have every right to respond. And I try to be more thoughtful.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Oh, yeah. People can respond. Like, it's never personal with me. Y'all know me. I don't know any of these people. Well, some of them, I don't know person. I don't know Cardi personally. I love and support Cardi because she's from my city.
Starting point is 00:28:09 She's from my town. So anything that she's doing, I'm supporting. But I don't know anybody personally most of the times when I'm talking about it. So it shouldn't be taking personal. Like I'm not attacking anybody's personal, you know, things. It's just saying like, yo, you're stepping out with a dude. Are you making this statement, this big statement, you know, coming off a divorce. And this is the first guy that we see you with.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You know, it's like, yo, I don't know. You know, homie. You know, Stefan is outside. he he outside stephan diggs is outside that's not a secret like he's moving around the city he's shaking and baking i don't know if this is the guy that maybe she should be seen with fresh off a divorce that's all i'm saying like i'm not saying we were saying is i think that's the exact guy long story short i ain't apologizing them all man you said what the fuck you said it's on tape nah you rat it no all's fair and love the internet and our favorite rappers
Starting point is 00:29:03 All spirit, love the internet and our favorite rappers. It was on CCTV, though. We got like the footage is right there. All right, cool. Rory got caught. Damaris told them where I was hiding at. That's fine. That's ratting.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And you're right. Rattin is fine because niggas get celebrated for me and rats these days. So you absolutely right. Rattin is fine. You snitch now. You get a podcast. You get a deal from all kinds of sponsors. You can get everything now when you snitch.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I mean, I don't know. It's kind of like, it's like the gun of shit. I feel like what Demaris did. I mean, I understood the rat emoji that you would put up. But, like, she didn't go full, like, Sammy the Bull, 6'9. Did she drop my name? It was the- Did she drop my name on the stand?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah. She said names. But it was the plea, like, it wasn't going to be used in the case. They had their evidence. She said, it was a gunner situation. She said, mall deserves this smoke. YSL is a gang. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:01 No, it's not. But it didn't affect the case. specifically named Mall. She didn't say Rory's not the one that deserves the smoke. Somebody else might deserve this smoke. Oh, nigger. We know who somebody else is. We know who Mall is, too, and that's exactly what you said.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Mall deserves this smoke. That is Rat 101. She bit the cheese. She took the cheese. She got her Pepsi. She got her chips, and she went in that interrogation room, and she gave them everything. It was like when 6'9 was on the stand, it was like, you know, Cardi B's of blood, too. like, sir, she has nothing to do with this.
Starting point is 00:30:34 She has nothing to do with this. Nothing to do with this case. We don't need to know. I had nothing to do what Cardi was talking about. No, you was shoddy in the case. What are you talking about? You was the main person. She pointed out something you said.
Starting point is 00:30:47 You said she needs to take accountability. Cardi and her statement said talking about I need to be accountable. She's talking to something you said. Okay. She didn't talk about something Ma said and or something you said and she said, I said it. No, I didn't say anything that Cardi for. felt was disrespectful. Objectively,
Starting point is 00:31:05 Mall is actually correct because Cardi did see the wrong clip, not the one that's too cool to blog posted. She saw the one of you talking and then it ended with me saying
Starting point is 00:31:13 does Cardi need to take accountability. I don't even think Maul's in that clip, period. So I don't even know if Cardi goes, there's more.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I don't know if Cardi goes to look at the other clip until Damaris puts that up because she replied directly to Damaris's tweet. So I don't, Maul may have a case
Starting point is 00:31:28 right now in homie court that that may be ratting My name is in the paperwork. She put my name in her paperwork. My name is my name. Yeah. Moll deserves this smoke. See, I don't, I don't like the selective homey court. How was it selective? Because I ain't bring you to homey court for shit that you did.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I let you rock. I let you get away Scott for you. Me? You. What did I do? I ain't bring you to homie court. You came out here and started ratting on yourself and telling and apologizing and putting up statements. When? I never took you to home court for what you deserve to go to homie court for.
Starting point is 00:31:57 What are you talking about? All right. So, I said, take me to homey court now. You know, I know. no, it's cool. No, no, no, no, no. So you can't bring, you can't bring that up. You can't bring that up.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You can't bring that up. You already brought up a statement and apologized. Now, if you're going to bring something up and say, I need to be a homie court, say what I need to be a homie court for. Everybody know what you went to, what you should have went to homie court for, but we already had a conversation about. We are laughing about a post. You went and doubled back and laughed again, nigger.
Starting point is 00:32:19 All I did was laugh. Again. I can't laugh. I laughed. A nigger laughed and I got to go to homie court to laugh. No, I didn't bring you to homeie court. I let it go. Why you're saying I deserved to me a homey court though.
Starting point is 00:32:31 For laughing? It was a charge. No, fuck. It was a charge. We can't laugh. You can laugh about whatever you want. Okay, so now, okay. You can go outside a punching nigga.
Starting point is 00:32:39 All right, but listen, listen. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. You said I deserved to go to homey court because I laughed, right? All I did was laughing emoji. You put my name and said he deserves smoke. Meaning not only did you put my name in the paperwork, but you was like, get this nigga, him.
Starting point is 00:32:58 That's what that was. You're like, yo, now, get him. He's the one that deserve it. Well, we even. Yeah, like, what was that about? We're even. Me laughing and you saying Mall deserves the smoke
Starting point is 00:33:08 is not the even. That's not even at all. There's no, there's no even with that. Sorry. He bought you an actual hammer. I asked Josh for the judge mallet, and he brought me this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's a lot going on right now. Yeah. Okay. I think Mall is a lot of strong points right now. But it did trigger something that has not been settled yet with the fake apologies that happened on this podcast months ago.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I think we should finally clear the air same way I did with Lex 10 years later and have that homie court. Of what? Your LOLs. Okay, so I can't laugh. You are free to do it.
Starting point is 00:33:45 No, no, no, no. This is going to be a repeat of the other one. See? See, I can't, because obviously you felt the way about laughing emojis. And cool, you're entitled to feel away about laughing emojis.
Starting point is 00:33:53 But we're not going to say this is the same, though. We're not going to say this is the same. Mall deserves this smoke and me just laughing is not the same. Okay. No fucking way in the hell. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:34:05 What do you think the differences? A laughing emoji was all I put. I just laughed. No, it ain't even about the original laughing emojis. It's about the fact that you went back and doubled back a week later and laughed again. No, it was a whole different post. Yeah, I know. But it was a week later.
Starting point is 00:34:22 A week after that post is posted. But it was a funny post again. You wasn't still, you wasn't laughing for a week straight. Yeah, I was laughing. That was funny. that was funny. See what somebody was just pointing out the hypocrisy
Starting point is 00:34:31 and I just laughed at. You knew it wasn't an hypocrisy. And he knew it wasn't. And that's my thing with Maul. That was my only issue when Maul is Maul knew that it wasn't hypocrisy because Maul was there
Starting point is 00:34:41 for the conversation that we had and he still went back. It was a funny post. I just laughed. Maul, let's be real. You didn't even laugh at the second one because you hadn't even seen it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I only could laugh at what I see. When we talked about the apology and Peach took it and clipped it up and made it seem like I was arguing, like almost like I was arguing with my boyfriend and Pige made like a post for me to post about it. I posted it like, oh, this is what happens when you point of view you already went through his phone, but he lying to you. You laughed at
Starting point is 00:35:12 that and then immediately after you laughed under my page, you went and commented on that. Commented on what? On your man's posts. You commented on my post. My little meme that that Pige made me. And then immediately after you went and commented on Drake's thing. I'm only commented on what I see though. I can't comment on things I don't see. Like if I'm on my timeline and I'm seeing shit. Maul, you thought I was being shady when I posted that real. That's why you commented. You was being shady. I wasn't being shady. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Objection. I was not being. Peach. Objection. You watch being shady. Page is right here. Page is right here. Not leading the witness. Peach. Out of that asset, out of that apology, Peach created that asset. I didn't create that asset.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Peach sent that to me and I said it looked like I'm arguing with my boyfriend. I then posted it and said, this is what happened. Like he's trying to he's trying to explain himself, but you already went through that phone. You're barely in it. No, you said something about when you know he's lying. That was the, that was underneath. That was the caption underneath.
Starting point is 00:36:07 But on the actual post, I literally said when you arguing with your boyfriend, but you already went through that phone. It had nothing to do with you. I wasn't being funny towards you. But when Pete clipped it up. I'm in the post. But it's only your voice. Your face is not in it. But I'm in it.
Starting point is 00:36:19 My likeness is in it. You felt away and felt like I was trying to be funny. My likeness wasn't in this shit here. I had nothing to do with this. Immediately five minutes after you went and kind of. commentsed on Drake's post to be funny. You were not laughing in the moment. You went to be funny.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I was laughing. Admit that you were being funny. I was laughing. It was funny to me. I laughed. Still, I'm trying to figure out how does laughing and a laughing emoji equate to being the same with,
Starting point is 00:36:45 Moore deserves this moat. If there ain't no loyalty on the left, ain't no loyalty on the right. I can't laugh or fucking laugh. We're talking about laughing. Listen, all is fair and love in our favorite rappers. Nah, man.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Nah, da, dog. This is rapping. This is ratin. I don't care what no one. Maul deserves this smoke. That is right. And that is biting the cheese.
Starting point is 00:37:04 That is asking for Pepsi and Doritos. That is right. She's a civilian. When I said that, I didn't think you was going to go to jail. You ain't a jail. I have not seen any 1090 Jake paperwork. Mall deserves this smoke. Wack has said nothing yet.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I had to distract. I had to get my home boy free. I'm YS. Woody. I had to get my home boy free. Oh my God. She just said she's Yersel LW. I do the case.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I had to get my homeboy free. What? That is rat one or one. It means I'm young thugs. Yo, what is that? That is crazy. Thanks. Yo, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I got ratted on and they tried to tell me I did not get rated on. I had to throw the case. I threw the case. Pointed suspicion elsewhere. I knew you weren't going to get bought up on charges as you have it. So I was going to hold it down. I did what I had to do for the podcast. I was on you.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And we might actually get. Who is yours? I was never in it. We might actually get party. She said Rory's needs to shut his white bitch ass on. She didn't say anything about Ma. Maul's name is in nowhere in Cardi's paperwork at all. Only time Maul's name is mentioned in any paperwork
Starting point is 00:38:05 is when Demaris submits her statement. It says, Maul deserves this smoke. We're all free and we're getting the first Cardi B interview when she I don't know if I'm free. I got to go to the Bronx tonight. Don't brimms may catch me outside like in the night. Like, I don't know if I'm free.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Why she keeps saying I'm free? I got to go to Fordham tonight. Like, I might not be free. Listen, man. Ace had to set up Rico. No, he didn't. It was for the betterment of Harlem. It was for the rat cast.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm out of here, though. I'm out of here. Everybody cool biting the cheese up here, man. You act like we ain't got another job. Nah, man, fuck that. Yeah, y'all tripping, man. So you don't see any equivalent in those two things? Me laughing emoji?
Starting point is 00:38:45 No. No. Is that dry snitching? Look, the same thing she did after mention in my name. See that? That's the same thing I put overshoddy's posts when she posted her shit about Demaris. Oh, same, that same emoji.
Starting point is 00:38:58 But you knew, see, you could have taken the Demaris route with that girl because you guys are all OVO. That's team. She's team Cardi. So Cardi listened to her and realized she was wrong. You could have talked to your sis. I don't know her name. What's her name? We don't need to get it.
Starting point is 00:39:11 All right. Talk to your sis in the OVO group chat and be like, hey, you have this wrong. Damaris was taken out of context here. Like, you could have taken this route and been like, hey. He didn't want to do that. Hey, your smoke is for DJ Head. It's not for Damaris. Regardless if she was right or wrong, I just.
Starting point is 00:39:26 laughed at just the whole the clip i was just laughing at it i didn't feel like she disrespected demarice and that oh i don't even like remember the yeah not she didn't i'm just stirring shit up for the fuck she was just trying to point out hypocrisy but she didn't did she didn't call now she would have been on there trying to kick demar like this whack bitch and she didn't do none of that she didn't curse she didn't call demarice on her name i think i was told that i only come on here and say uh i say whatever y'all tell me for a check whatever y'all tell me to say i say for a check that's what i was told did she said that in that clip Not in that one.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And another one. Oh, I see. I'm talking about that clip. No, she went out for days and days and days. Oh, I don't see. Most of that shit, I don't even see. That one that I laughed at. But that's why you should stand with your people's because you don't even really be knowing what's going on.
Starting point is 00:40:10 The clip. I keep going back to I laughed at that clip. Whatever my emoji is on, I'm laughing at that. That's it. My name is in paperwork. Right there. Mall deserves this smoke. How is that the same?
Starting point is 00:40:29 The government should have redacted your name. I asked, I asked for the defendant to be thrown in the darkest cell. No, she has immunity. She's snitch. She's with us. Yeah. Fuck you're talking about. Shit.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Good luck. What would your witness protection name be? Hmm? I don't know. Something like Ashley or Brenda. Ooh, Victoria. That's funny. She brought up Ashley because that's why she should be an homie court.
Starting point is 00:40:49 We'll save that for Patreon. Nah, talk about it. Get your shit off. Yeah. You think is you defending me here that you got free range to do whatever. No. Yeah. Take the gavel.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Take the cattle. Damn, whole cast mad at me. Yo, this is the Rackcast. We'll be back. We're going to pay some bills. Get a word for my sponsors. We'll talk to you on a second.
Starting point is 00:41:08 The Rackcast is crazy, man. Jesus Christ. All right, well, to make sure this is real, I will reach out to Wack 100 and 1090J. They'll get the full proper research of Demaris to make sure. We just saw the paperwork.
Starting point is 00:41:24 We have to triple check, man. No, no, we don't. that's the problem. Y'all like to triple check paperwork. My name is in the paperwork. No, I ain't no Photoshop. That's a, that's a, that's a, what they call it? With the blue check on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:41:36 Verified. That's a verified account. Verified rat. Look at that. That's not verified? Listen. How's this? Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:47 You know what? All right. As a woman, I'll take accountability. I could have handled that differently. That's all Rory was trying to tell Cardi. See, now we get back to. See, now you know, you get me in trouble with Cardi again. I didn't tell her to handle anything.
Starting point is 00:41:58 It's really him. He really, it's really him. He really the problem. What? I've been telling you all that. Do I think Cardi needs to be held to? Man, check his chest. Do you wear something? Check his sneakers. Ain't that what you just said? Cardi needs to be held to take accountability? No, I asked Damaris does Cardi need accountability? And she said, do you think that? And I said no. Oh, you say she don't need accountability. No, she's. Okay. Do you do anything wrong? Well, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Demarish? I apologize. I mean mine, though. I'm not just saying it. I mean mine, though. I'm not just saying it. I mean my apology. I apologize. I did not have to throw you to the wolves. I just thought that that was a tactic to get, you know, my boy free. But I could have handled that better. I could have left your name out of the paperwork. So I apologize, sincerely.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That's how unapologized handled. The first time, the Knicks go to the playoffs in 26 years, and the woman just took accountability for the first time. No, what's the, all right. May 19th, 2025, 3.36 p.m. Cardi B apologized to me and Demaris apologized to you. Two women back to them.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Wow. I'm a little like misty in my eyes right now. Cardi for president. Now, do you have anything to say? Yeah, that's all I wanted from the first thing. Hey, Damaris. Maybe I could have just laughed by myself in the living room and not posted it to co-sign the war that was going on between you
Starting point is 00:43:26 and that person to add fuel. to the fire. Hey, DeMaris, maybe I shouldn't have laughed out loud. I should have laughed in the living room and not added fuel to the fire. Again, we'll try it again when you mean it. We'll try it against six. I do mean, I made it the first time, man. We'll try it again six months from now.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Y'all don't take my apologies. Baby steps. Y'all don't take my apology seriously on here, man, on a rat cast. Man, this is crazy. Actually, hold on. Can somebody hear me to gabble? Actually, I'll come get it. Or Josh, bring it to me real quick.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah, I actually got somebody else to bring to homie court. In fact, since we're hashing out things on this motherfucker. Hash brown, God damn it. I love me a hash brown. And while she gets that together in the meantime, if somebody snitches and no one goes to jail. Nah, no, we not see? Because nobody attacked you.
Starting point is 00:44:16 The rats always try to find a loophole. Because, yeah, she did. But they didn't attack you. Like, you didn't get the sentence for her rat. this was the first time in stand culture that I even saw this, which takes a special type of complexion. Even after Cardi apologized, the comments under from her own stands that listened to every last word she said,
Starting point is 00:44:38 for the first time said, nah, it's still fuck that white bitch. Yeah, they said, nah, fuck them. They didn't even listen to their leader.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, nah, fuck that. They read and saw the clip of mall, and he was like, nah, mall cool. Fuck that white bitch.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Fuck the white bitch. reparations, Rory. Yeah. Listen, I agree. Damaris. Now in session, the people versus Rory Farrow. Yes. Get his white ass, Damaris, please.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Because the only reason why I had to sit and endure mall's fake ass apology is because you went and had a conversation with him that I was upset. Well, he's supposed to. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, but this is, this is that. Let's listen to this. I have been dealing with people calling me all types of sensitive ass. because Rory went and stuck up for me
Starting point is 00:45:27 because that's how he felt. He felt I should be stuck up for it. I didn't go to Rory and crying and screaming and all. Rory came to me and he felt that I should be stuck up for. So I'm over here getting an apology. Like I was crying because I need an apology when I said I'm not getting an apology for mall because Moll ain't sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:47 But what made it seem like to me, I mean to everybody else and to the public is that I was crying for an apology for Mall. So I'm on trial for the court. of public opinion? Yes. I ain't got shit to do with that. Because during that apology,
Starting point is 00:46:00 you should have said Damaris wasn't crying for an apology. I feel like you owe Demaris's apology. My fuck is over here like Damaris is really mad at Mall about I didn't expect for apologies from all. First of all.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I didn't think I needed to say on the mic that DeMaris was not crying for an apology because you weren't so I didn't think that needed to even be said. That was that. This is what the court of public opinion. I'm not fucking that so raven. I didn't envision what the comments
Starting point is 00:46:20 were going to be the next day. I thought there was some internal attention and I wanted everyone to piece up. I feel like the air is already clear. That's all it was. I didn't predict what the comments would be that DeMaris came crying for an apology
Starting point is 00:46:35 because that wasn't the case. Sometimes I deal too much in truth and don't realize what the internet's going to view it as. I'm like, well, this is what happens. So that's how the world's going to see it. It's like, no, no, no. It never happens that way. Never happens that way.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Actually, peach. Homie, Josh. I mean, it's really peach. No, no, no, no, no. Because when I sat here and was sent through, that apology. Nobody sat there and said, Maul, you was wrong. Everybody was quiet. Oh, Josh standing up.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Josh said he said. And I mentioned, see, don't even put him on Tommy Court because I did tell you that Josh was in your corner. I said that. Y'all realized that all I did was laugh. Like, laugh. That's all I did. I didn't say nothing. I didn't say get her. I didn't say kill her. I didn't say any
Starting point is 00:47:19 these things. I just laughed. So you don't mean the apology. I told DeMaris that if she felt the way about that I apologize for that because that wasn't my attention I wasn't trying to make De Maris fill away but also the girl wasn't like crazy disrespectful towards Demaris. She was also just wrong. Even if she, but I just laughed though. Whether she's right or wrong, I just laughed.
Starting point is 00:47:43 That's all I did. But that's what. But where's the joke? The joke was just in her cutting the video up like literally you in the middle of your video and she'd like, now hold up. Go over there with what, wop, wop, it was just funny. I just laughed at that. Now, if she would have been on there coming at you, like, disrespecting you? And I laughed. Then I can understand you feeling, because now that's somebody just straight up disrespecting you. But she just spliced a video that you posted. And then took it back to some things you said months ago and then tried to just point out hypocrisy. I just thought it was funny that she did that. Now, again, if she would have been on there
Starting point is 00:48:16 kicking your back in on a personal level and I laughed, then 100% you, yo, Ma, that's fucked up. But if I'm just laughing at somebody comparing what you're doing today versus what you said a year ago, I'm just laughing at it. Like that wasn't, I didn't see the big crime in that. So I did. So the second one, the second one you weren't laughed at, which was also a clip taken out of context because I was the first person on this episode on this podcast to say that I liked sexy songs for you. I said that. They just clipped that out of the clip. You went and laughed at that too.
Starting point is 00:48:45 That wasn't even funny. DeMaris, you spent a year and a half laughing at any video calling me Dick Roder, this, That third, dot, bop to dot, bach, man. What I sat here and did, what I sat here and did, I would never, I took it all. I would never laugh. I would never laugh. Like I said, from the mountain tops of victory. I would never laugh.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Is that a fact? Because I didn't see that. No. I never saw DeMaris laughing at anyone calling you, Dickridering. Demaris can't wait to laugh. Everybody was laughing at that. We laughed. I didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Not like in here if we laughed with each other. But us laughing with each other is complete. I would never laugh at you. On the episode you laughed. I would never laugh. laugh at you on the internet for niggas the comment on the episode on the episode on we laugh at each other what she's trying to say is if there was a post that yo ma'
Starting point is 00:49:31 whatever like the miss mr big be got like like like like this was turning to you into sexy red i wasn't sitting up there they were super imposing your head on sexy red bro i wasn't sitting up there coming underneath that shit giggling and laughing and shit like that i would never do anything like that because i'm never going to give somebody ammunition to be like yo even even if he's okay but that's weird but that's weird but that's weird you look like a weird nigga, I'm just not me. But that's my point.
Starting point is 00:49:53 That would be them trying to disrespect me. Shorty wasn't trying to disrespect you. Okay. In her post, she didn't say anything disrespectful at all. She didn't call you out your name. And you don't think that the biggest rapper in the world reposting that is grounds for that, especially back to back. You don't think that at all. You don't think that there are.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Which greenlit a bunch of people to say extremely disrespectful. To this day, anytime I upload anything, I am harassed by Drake fans. Do I care? No. But you know that that opens up the floodgates. for a whole bunch of things. There are also a whole bunch of people, my colleagues, in this business
Starting point is 00:50:25 underneath your post, like, oh, damn, even her boss laughing at her. I'm laughing at the post. I wasn't laughing at you. Maul, your intention is not always the point. Yeah, but I can't. But that's what I'm trying to tell you, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 00:50:39 If I laugh at something, I'm just laughing. Now, what you think I'm laughing at, let's talk about that. I was just laughing at her trying to point out of hypocrisy and taking something you just did in posting on TikTok versus something you said
Starting point is 00:50:50 on the show almost a year ago. I was just laughing at that. I wasn't laughing at her trying to make you look stupid or if she colded out your name. Like, no, that would be something that's like, damn, that's fucked up. But she didn't disrespect you. But you didn't laugh under her post. You laughed under sensitive. No, you laugh under
Starting point is 00:51:06 Sensitive Sally's repost. And you know that he was not reposting. You knew why he was reposting. I laughed on the, what was that, the Plot Twist page. We know who Plot Twis. We all know who plots was us. I don't know. It is what it is. But that's why, that's where I
Starting point is 00:51:22 saw it at. See, this is why I can't have fake court. What you mean? Let's do real court. I'm telling you where I saw a post at. I saw the post. I laughed at it. I'm not paying attention to who posted and who did this. I don't want to draw this out. This was Rory's homie court. But somehow I'm on the stand.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Well, you got up there, you got on there and started telling. Because I got ratted on. My name is in paperwork. I was home chilling and I see Mall deserves smoke. I'm like, whoa, I didn't even tweet nothing all weekend. Should have went to Bali. Yeah, like Jesus. Louis. Court is adjourned.
Starting point is 00:51:53 No, it's not. Get his ass some more. Court is adjourned. No, because he's proven his loyalty. Word up. He's proven his loyalty. That's why I got him out. I haven't proven my loyalty?
Starting point is 00:52:04 That's why I went and got him on. Hold on. I haven't proven my loyalty. Listen. Niggas double back on a laugh. Nix double back on a laugh. Shit must have been really, really funny. It was funny.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It must have been really, really funny. It was funny. It was funny. It should be funny sometimes. You know it was funny? them Barb's on your ass I mean them Cardi Gang on your ass That's what's funny
Starting point is 00:52:25 I laugh Cardi Gets on my ass I laughed That's why he's laughing emojis That's what the fans Was on your ass I laughed When? Now we laughing
Starting point is 00:52:31 Cardi gang is on my ass right now Bartigang yeah For what you were saying How yeah Oh I didn't see none of you I don't know about Check your request DMs I'm sure they're
Starting point is 00:52:39 Threatening to kill your entire family I don't want no smoke I love Cardi man Big Bronx shit I always support her I don't want no smoke Well not that we've saw Somebody from Barty gang
Starting point is 00:52:48 Hit my request DMs And said they was gonna kill Amara and I replied, oh, you must be a fan because you know her name. I appreciate the support. That's great. Keep listening every week. You fucking idiot. Yeah, you're fucking stupid.
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Starting point is 00:53:55 as long as they remain active on the boost unlimited plan. Thank the Lord for Joey Badass. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. I don't know if I would have made it into work today. Yeah. It's just a lot. At least the universe can balance itself out.
Starting point is 00:54:07 But yeah, I mean, that's just how the world works and how the universe works. Yin and Yang. Joey Badass cleaned up the entire world. So the universe had to come back to us and humble us and balance everything out. That's cool. I was chilling, what was that? Tuesday. And Josh text me, hey.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Whenever Josh text me That was the tone of Yeah whenever Josh texted me He said hey Are you jumping on the Twitter spaces tonight? And I have forgot that we had talked about Doing the Twitter spaces Just kind of talking about the whole
Starting point is 00:54:39 Joey Joey Halliburton Joey badass This between I mean it's just Yeah He's kicking everybody's ass But we had a Twitter spaces
Starting point is 00:54:52 Shout out to everybody that joined the spaces And I spoke Shout out to Mickey Fax. Lloyd Banks was in the spaces. Reason. Shout out to Gina Views. Who else? Am I missing those other people?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Because I got the kind of late. I got the like 45 minutes after you started. Yeah, I think you named. I mean, there was a bunch of people in there. It was a great time. Over 12,000 people joined. So thank you to everybody join. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And again, apologies from my outburst. I'm resetting. I'm good now. All right. Twitter spaces was amazing. I had a great time. It's always fun to talk about shit in real time with all, like, listeners and fans.
Starting point is 00:55:24 and everything. It's fun on the podcast. But in real time, talking to the timeline, I find it extremely great to just talk with them. And we jumped the West Coast. We jumped Reason. And I felt like it was karma. West Coast tried to jump Joey Badass.
Starting point is 00:55:42 So Reason had to get jumped in Twitter spaces. Then he tried to run and get Gina, but Gina's service didn't work. So Rees was sitting there getting his ass whoops screaming for Gina and she has one bar. Can't even find the Wi-Fi. He kept texting like, put Gina on stage. Oh, she up there?
Starting point is 00:55:57 She ain't talking. That ain't on me. All right. Let's, all right, we can tie this in with some of the recap. Reason was trying to suggest that everyone won in this. And even Gina, who is very direct in how she feels, especially after the victory lap that the West Coast had. And there is no middle ground gray area. It's either somebody won or lost said the fans won.
Starting point is 00:56:23 The West Coast looked way. different than it did in 2024. Now there's a gray area for everything. Now the fans won. I agree with them, though, but... No, you don't. But I, no, I agreed on the spaces. I agree when Gina was saying that
Starting point is 00:56:36 Ray Vaughn does not walk away with the L on this. He walks away with a W. I agree with them when they said that. He walks away with a W because he's getting interviews? No, it's not... He lost the battle, and that's what we were trying to get across to you. What did he win?
Starting point is 00:56:47 He lost the battle. He won a whole bunch of publicity and attention that he didn't have before. What on with that cloud chasing shit? I don't care. But you're a, but you bring up all the time that when you're a rapper, you need that. Like for your career, more people are now listening to Ray Vaughn, which is well-deserved because he is very talented.
Starting point is 00:57:04 More people are now listening to him than ever before. Yeah, but don't mention that in a battle. We know, you're right. And Gina's right in saying that. But don't mention that in the battle. Don't tell me that he's getting interviews and his streams is going up. And I don't tell me that during the battle. We know that.
Starting point is 00:57:19 We know that's going to happen. Well, it wasn't during the battle. The battle was over. He lost. That's the general. As a result, as a result of the. battle. He's getting interviews. His streams are going up. And I'm cool. Great. I'm not, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:30 regardless of what Rayvon thinks about me, like, I'm not mad at his, like, I want to see him be successful. He's another black. Doesn't affect your life. Yeah, at all. Either way. He's another black dude. Like, I support that. I'm sorry. He's another black dude. It's funny. Yeah. Like, I support my black people. Like, I support him. I don't mean, I like him, but I support him, right? Okay. I don't think you dislike him. I don't think you have any feeling. Yeah, I don't have any feelings. Rayvon. I could kill us. But what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:57:56 is, don't tell me during a battle or after battle it's okay. It's okay. Today is just not his day. That's just, see, don't let it take you there. Don't let it take you to that space. I always felt that Reggie's sister was way better than he was.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Cheryl's a way better basketball player. I just want to put that out there. Cheryl Miller is the greatest middle of all time. But yes, Rayvon's stream numbers go up, things like that. We know that. But to mention that, during a battle and when we're talking about Joey badass winning and defeating everybody that stood in front of him or threw shots at him, it's like, don't do that right here. Don't tell me what the numbers are.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Don't tell me what the streams are right now. I don't care about that. I'm talking about the records and the bars that will put forth in a battle. That's all I'm talking about. Don't tell me that. No, but you know he's getting three interviews tomorrow and he's going in and the streams. I don't know. But they also said that it's closer than the New Yorkers are.
Starting point is 00:58:54 making it. No, it's not. Like he didn't get his ass. It's worse. It's worter. It's worse than the LA LA aliens are making it appear to be. And that's where I'm so sick of people saying New York bias, because that is not the case here. The West Coast bias was showing so much. Because we respected Rayvonne's. A little crazy, yeah. First, first diss, I thought it was great. I thought it was really close after Joey did the finals. I still felt like Joey edged him out in that first round. But then when you get to the town. My town. And then the follow-up is the. golden eye record and the West Coast is trying to tell me it's still close. The West Coast was saying the golden eye record was like, they were like, oh, yo,
Starting point is 00:59:31 that's the one. I'm like, it's not. No, it's not. Saying he's gay in 20 different ways over a bad flip of the backdown beat is not close in the battle. It's just not after Joey and Loaded Lux clean everybody up. Yeah, no. It's not close.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Even Daylight's a. Oh shit that came out after, which was way better than his first one, probably my favorite one that Light put out. It may be in the top three of this battle. didn't hit. It was over after my town came up. I don't care what you put out after. Put out a whole mix tape. It's done. Listen, it's over.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I don't care to hear any more records about this or coming out of this. It's just one of those things. There was a moment. It was cool. All of the rappers, all of the emcees put their best work forward. Let the people decide. It's decided. It's not closed.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Joey cleaned everybody up. Everybody go back to it, respective corners. Work on your music. out your music, do whatever it is you was doing before, but I don't want to talk about this battle no more. It's not even a battle. I like to, I did kind of sigh when I saw that Daylight put out another record either this morning or last night, the end credits joint, but I actually thought it was a cool way to end the entire battle. He just recapped everything that happened. Like, I thought that was cool to really end everything because even I was starting to get drained. As somebody
Starting point is 01:00:45 that was trying to instigate every rapper to get into this battle, I started to get exhausted. I was like, all right, man, I can't, I can't listen to another one. This is, this is, This has gone way too far. And even to, I'm happy that Rayvon definitely stopped. And I saw that he posted like a live performance. I'm with Gina in reason on, okay, it's kind of a win for him for the eyes. But if he doesn't do anything with the eyes, because I feel like attention these days is cheap.
Starting point is 01:01:10 They just move on to the next thing. So yeah, he could have 500,000 impressions, but they're just going to move on in the next thing. He doesn't capitalize. So I can't say, I can say for sure Rayvon lost this battle. But on the other side, I can't say it was a win for him unless he capitalizes off the eyes that are on him. It's not a win for him even if he do that.
Starting point is 01:01:27 He lost the battle, period. That's it. But we're talking about the separate part of who takes away from, but he has to capitalize all those eyes that we're looking at him now need to continue with, or at least a percentage of them, need to move on with Ray Vaughn with his career and keep following him. Then I'd be like, all right, cool. That was a way to get more fans and more attention on you. But if you just do a battle and then everyone moves on in the next thing, you took two L's,
Starting point is 01:01:50 in my opinion. You didn't even use the marketing that was set up for you by top. if you don't capitalize off that. That's two L's to me. Yeah, I get it. I hope that doesn't happen because, like Demeris, I think he's talented and deserves eyes on him. I hope he uses it to, you know, better his career
Starting point is 01:02:03 because he's a good rapper. But if he doesn't, that's two L's. Yeah, but just stop saying it's a W for him if he puts, if he capitalizes it. It's not. Yeah. You're always capitalizes as an artist. Put out good music, capitalize off the moment,
Starting point is 01:02:16 capitalize off the opportunity to release music. But the battle is the battle. Allie I lost. Joey cleaned everybody up I hope everybody comes out of this and does everything that they want to do in music I hope everybody's successful But I ain't gonna be like
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yo nah but he ain't really lose the battle Cause you know he he put out a classic joint After the nah he lost He lost Yeah no it's of course it's fine You win or you lose They lost Because even if like Demaris
Starting point is 01:02:43 Back to your point that you were saying Amal of all right If its streams go up More attention goes up Then that's a win That's kind of like saying Okay Drake didn't lose because he was still the most streamed artist at the end of the year.
Starting point is 01:02:57 It's like, nah, he still took an L by the court of public opinion. I was, I didn't want to bring that up, but I was looking at you waiting for you to be like, but you, you being. By the court of public opinion, Drake took an L, but at the end of the year, he was the highest streamed artist of the year. And no one went, oh, never mind, Drake didn't take an L. But that's completely different because that's completely different because Drake had, and we said this before the battle, Drake had nowhere to go but down. There was nothing he could have
Starting point is 01:03:27 gained from this battle other than when we mentioned during the DJ head interview, the, he could completely kill that boogeyman shit. Like, I'm the real boogeyman. That was the only thing that he had to gain from this battle. If he beat Kendrick, I had said he, he, he would be in the absolute conversation of one of the greatest rappers of all time. Like if he cleaned up, like, yeah, that would have been like, all right. But that was the only accolade he had to gain, right? which is a big accolade, but he's already at the top. With Rayvon,
Starting point is 01:03:55 Rayvon had nowhere to go but up. So that's why I think that that's completely different. You can't say someone didn't take an L just because they got more streaming. But nobody said that he didn't take an L. Okay. Nobody, yeah, nobody said that. Well, I mean, literally the entire West Coast thinks
Starting point is 01:04:09 that shit was better than Ether and takeover. He's stupid. I can really appreciate it. As New York crab in the barrel, like we don't stick together shit, I do admire how much the West Coast will defend blindly, knowing they sound insane, and still be like, nah, Ray cleaned everybody up. So what I can appreciate that type of support. I don't think that it's blindly.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I do think that we have different opinions on what music sounds better because we do have different sounds. So I do think that they truly believe that it was closer than it was because they might value raise swag more than they value. Joey bad ass. What was the name of the Daylight record that he had the chopped cheese as the artwork that Daylight even took off his own YouTube page? I need I want to lend some West Coast ears so they can tell me if that sounds good.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I'm cool with having different ears if that sounds good to y'all. No, that wasn't. I didn't even really see them standing up for daylight. I saw them really standing up for Ray. And that's actually what I want to talk about. I'm glad you brought that up. The only person I felt actually had something to lose in this battle for real was Daylight.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Because us even came in here, we were shaking for Joey. Because he has, rightfully so, the status of being an alien. He's one of those. We revered Daylights Penn probably more than most rappers, period. Well, because he's a battle rapper. And the expectations were so high for him. How he delivered was so underwhelming. I felt like that was kind of the only real L that somebody could have taken in this.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Because like DeMara said, the only place you can go is up. Joey's still going to be, Joey, he's still going to act no matter what. But Daylight's brand, I think, was the only one that was kind of like, damn, that was underwhelming. We had no expectations for Ray. Yeah. Even with Joey Badass, we know Joey can rap. He's great MC, but he's not super battle tested.
Starting point is 01:06:01 We didn't even have the highest, highest expectations for Joey. Daylight, though. Yeah. He's the only one I think really took, like, a brand loss. Like, damn, I'm never going to forget this part about daylight. Because I only had nothing but amazing things with Daylight. and like everyone should be terrified of daylight. When daylight shows up, everyone should leave the park.
Starting point is 01:06:23 He's that good of a rapper. Now I still think that about daylight, but this was like, I think what we learned in it is you can be a battle rapper. But when it comes time to battle rap on records with music, you know, having flows and things like that, it's a different ballgame. I think that daylight is just the cerebral thing works on a battle rap stage because you get to kind of be performative
Starting point is 01:06:49 and you get the theatrics of battle rap so that that whole cerebral angle is it lands better on stage. The cerebral, you know, I am a god, all of that on wax and a battle is not, I think battle rap you have to be a little more cool. I think you have to be a little cooler
Starting point is 01:07:08 in battle rap. I think you have to be a little more charismatic. I think you got to be a little more witty. You're putting on a performance, for real. It's a performance. But you can't be, Like daylight's thing is too, you know, it's, it's too much of his own world that he creates in his music. And on wax, it doesn't land the same as on stage.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I can kind of perform and create this whole thing where you kind of, I'm bringing you into my, you know, with the music and on a disc record, it's just, it doesn't land the same. And that was the disappointing part for me listening to Light. I was like, it's not landing the same. If I take the music away and put Light on stage with Joey Badd, and let light perform this, then it might look a little and look and feel a little differently. But on just listening to the music, it didn't land. Again, his battle rap career, I think takes a hit now because all the battle rappers have
Starting point is 01:08:01 incredible ammunition now to kind of like go at light if they battle. Now, I still think light is a dangerous opponent for anybody. Of course. Because he's obviously talented. But I do think that coming out of this moment, now other battle rappers have amyms. ammunition, which is why it was so clever for Joey Badass to put Lux on the record. Yeah. To kind of like, you know, allude to that like.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Lux floated on that shit. You understand? Like, Lux can on music, but you see because Lux is a little more charismatic. He's a little pooling the things that he's saying and how he frames his bars and things like that. It's not as serra-lux can get into that cerebral zone too. But I think he knows how to turn it off a little bit when it's like on in the music. I mean, Lux even knows how to dumb it down at the right time. we know Lux can leave Earth the way daylight.
Starting point is 01:08:50 They're actually very similar in that way of leaving Earth. But Lux, some is, I mean, his most famous round ever was dumbed down. He repeated that he made a hook out of it. He repeated the same thing 15 times. And that's one of his best shits ever because he knows when to dumb it down. And we were talking on Twitter spaces. The hip-hop purists are going to just have to face the reality that in the history of battling, the simple shit wins.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Yeah. It's not who's the best rapper. You have to simple, the most famous battle lines that we all go back to are very, very simple, even from the most lyrical rappers. Like beans and kiss, dumb down their own shit. And that's one of my favorite battles ever. Even Hov and Nas, they weren't going lyrical, miracle, fucking 10,000 different metaphors. And we're like, oh, he's the winner because he had more metaphors here.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Now you've got to dumb that shit down. What's going to land? What punch is going to matter? I mean, I think is that your girl, is that your tour your girl's tour? Like, that was a finisher. And then Meegot came back and barred it the fuck up. up and it was like, nah, I'm cool. I think that was a lot.
Starting point is 01:09:49 There's nothing here that we can repeat. I think a lot of that relates to the Drake Kendrick thing. I think not like us is a dumb down. But Ed. And just this record. Like, it's nothing to think about. You get it as soon as you hear it. It's a hook.
Starting point is 01:10:05 It's, you know what I mean? Like, so I think that. But the bridge is over. Right. Right. Is that K.R. It's most lyrical performance? No.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Purposely. Yeah. He made a fucking hit. And that was the bar. The bridge is over. Sorry, Queensbridge. Right. fucking buried a whole borough for 10 years because he just said the bridge is over.
Starting point is 01:10:22 That's where I think, because you know, I'm on the side of the nerds, but I don't want to go through every single daylight metaphor when I can just listen to my town and clearly see who's winning right now. Right. just listen to my town and clearly see who's winning right beat. Okay, why is that not a stat? Right. It's a music battle.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Like music's now not important. Yeah. They're musicians. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. I have a question and a quick story about a man, but he's based in New York. So I'm not giving a ton of context here. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:11:10 So you guys have been around men with different degrees of access. My theory, and I could be wrong, I'm asking, is that if a man when he was younger, was in a position to exchange his money for women's convenience and time. No, they were just there. The money was there. I get it. Whatever. Do you think that man would be very good at dealing with a quote-unquote normal girl, as I've been described?
Starting point is 01:11:39 I'm cool with that. In the future, or would it just be too fucking hard once you've had that convenience? And for the funny part, I was out last night with this individual. He's telling me he does all this reading now. It's really important to him. Time away from the phone. I'm like, oh, cool. What are you reading?
Starting point is 01:11:56 The man says, Mind Kampf. I said, oh, my God, I heard you wrong. I thought you said that Hitler book. He said, no, yeah, that one. Like, it's really interesting to see where people started out. And I'm not offended by it, but of all the fucking books, I wish you would see in my damn face. Just sending you guys lots of love.
Starting point is 01:12:13 This isn't even that serious. I'm already over the sky. So thoughts, theories, concerns. I have them. Maybe he's a history buff. I don't like my red flags, the scissor. Like, don't, I don't like...
Starting point is 01:12:28 That was a crazy left. No, but I don't like my red flags to bump coochies. Like, why do you have more than one huge red flag? Like, just have one huge red flag. Maybe I could drive past it. But you got too big asses one? Wait, hold.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I fully understand reading Mokoff would be a red flag for somebody. What's the second one? That he, the majority of the relationships in his life he's paid for. They have been like prostitutes. Like he pays. for women. But he wasn't in relationships with that.
Starting point is 01:12:51 He was just buying pussy. Yes, but that's, he's never had, like, he's not known for having regular women. He just buys, but that is a red flag when you're trying to get into a relationship with somebody. But when she was saying, what would it be like to date a normal woman? I'll give the other side of this coin.
Starting point is 01:13:06 The main real reason for prostitutes is for men in normal relationships to cheat without any problems. But that's not his. Like, it's for people in normal relationships. Yes. That's what, that's what old. men do that? Why do people say that? Why do people say that
Starting point is 01:13:20 people who do you think fucks prostitues the most? Married men or single men? I think both. I think both. I don't think it's a specialty. Yeah, that's why I don't understand when people say, oh, you know, guys that are in relationships are married. They have sex with prostitutes because they don't want no problems. We see mad prostitutes cause problems every day on the time. We see mad prostitutes do IG lives and tell everything that happened and
Starting point is 01:13:42 exposed text messages. We see that all the time. Remember the golden era when people were paying for pussy in return for silence. Now you're paying for a problem. You're paying for a problem. You're paying. She want a roll out. She want a Rolex. She won like, she won all kind of roll. How I paid for stress. Cinnamon rolls. She won everything. Okay. But I mean, she didn't mention he was a man of access. But usually that only happens with men that have a high status and they're trying to get some attention based off saying, hey, I was fucking this guy. He was flying me paying for this and that. You know, that's usually when we see when prostitutes or escorts do that.
Starting point is 01:14:18 It's for an NBA player. But if it's just a guy that may have a few dollars and some access, I don't know if prostitutes doing that. But, I mean, this pod is not the one to be well-versed in buying pussy. But I've always felt that prostitutes were there more for married men than anyone else.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Like, they're dating, like, they're in a normal relationship, and it's not working. So they, instead of confying into a regular woman, they just go buy some pussy. I like, I like, you said that. I feel like, you said that. I feel like pros are there for married men.
Starting point is 01:14:45 because I could promise you a prostitute is not going to be like, you marry, right? No, they're not. That's the thing. If you ain't, I ain't give you no pussy. No, I'm just saying that the highest clip of like why they're so in demand is more for men that are trying to escape
Starting point is 01:14:59 for a second within their relationship where, you know, cheating is messy, especially if you're like really talking to somebody else. That's where things get crazy. But if you just say, yo, here's $100 because, I mean, pussy can't be that expensive these days. This shit is plummeting, I feel like. on the NASDAQ. No, pussy is actually got more expensive.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Okay. Good for, great for inflation. That's America. Filling up your tank with these prices to just go buy inflated pussy? Yeah. I don't know how these guys do. That's America. But that's usually what men would do.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Like, I know in this situation, I'm paying for something. It's a transaction. This girl won't text me. She won't show up my house. Like, that's what I always felt that was for. Because we've been in the strip clubs that aren't like, say, starlets or like, you know, real strip clubs. It's usually like older businessmen that are probably married.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Truck drivers. that are probably married. So I think there's a world where a man that did fuck prostitutes, like, could just date a normal girl. He may still fuck those prostitutes, but I don't know if it's a red flag that he's dated them. Or if you love, you know, a great story, one of my favorite movies of all time, Pretty Woman, he got tired of dating normal women and wanted to marry a prostitute. We had Clay up here said he prefers promiscuous women. I think in this day and age
Starting point is 01:16:14 that's probably more normal than it's ever been that men are just like at this point I don't even care matter of fact let me go with the horror because there's no surprises
Starting point is 01:16:23 I already know she's one yeah but I feel like men that only date promiscuous women my ego is not built for that I don't know how I say I'm all said it's something there man it's something a little funny about that like why are you only like promiscuous women
Starting point is 01:16:38 because they well in their minds, they're more fun, they're more open, they're more freaky, they're more experienced. And by promiscuous women, we're not just saying prostitutes. There's women that are promiscuous who don't sell it. Sometimes it's free. But they feel like they're more fun. But y'all have always said that
Starting point is 01:16:55 hos were fun. Yeah, but I know regular girls that ain't hos that are fun too. And I know non-promiscuous women that once you have an actual interaction with them and start dating for real, they're freakyer than the horse. Ooh. Like, ooh. To me, To me, I know where Mall is taking it
Starting point is 01:17:12 and I actually hope he lands that plane because I know what he's trying to say but he's not saying it. I know what he's doing. That's why I said it. But I also think those men are also sort of like lazy because it's easy like they're treating it more like a high
Starting point is 01:17:25 and a dope mean shit like They don't want to put work. There's no work or effort involved. Like I'll go with promiscuous women because I know I could just be in like. Yeah. I've had that phase where it was just like promiscuous women because you know
Starting point is 01:17:37 they're not looking for nothing serious. They're not looking to be tied down. in a relationship. Which is fine. So this isn't a slut-shaming thing. I think people should do whatever the fuck they want. But I mean, when you just like, that's all you want, it's just like, yo, you're all what you're going through, man?
Starting point is 01:17:51 What's up? Like, that's all you want to date is promiscuous woman? Because I had a stage where I would date a lot of promiscuous woman. But if I, in that moment, in that time, met a girl that was like a really good girl and was like, I would absolutely date her and be like, yo, I like her like she's cool. Yeah, you would date her, but you wouldn't stop. You would, would have been faithful to her? Or you would have just dating her and walked her like a real.
Starting point is 01:18:13 No, no, I was. It was a time where I was dating somebody seriously in my whole face, if you want to call it that. Absolutely. Why you do that girl like that? Yeah. No, I didn't know. I mean, I stopped. Should have told her the filthy ran through man that you were?
Starting point is 01:18:26 Oh, no, she knew that. She knew. She knows she saved me. She saved that. She didn't even know she had community dick. That's crazy. No, she knew. It's all right, though.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Mall? Everybody had that. Nah, not. See, no, don't do that. We're not going to say everybody. Like, no, you involved. Not everybody. Not that's how you was raised.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Not everybody, but some women that shouldn't have, absolutely, absolutely. Knowing you got community dick is like, just why are you signing up for that dress? That's self-hate. Why are you violent? Y'all want community dick, though. I was about to say, let's not make this just a man. How much time we got, Josh? Yeah, women like community dick.
Starting point is 01:18:58 They do like it. They do like it. But it's because I feel like women like it until you locked it. Like, you'll get it and feel like you could stop it from being community dick and lock him down. and have a family and have a house and home with him. And then you realize like, girl, ain't no change in him. Until you see just how bad it is. Like, until you see just how much, how involved the nigga is in the community.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Like, what the ties to the community are. President of the neighborhood watch. That should have you crying, throwing up and shitting at the same time. No, he's ghost in the last season. Yeah. He's going for political stats at this time. The daughter got killed didn't cry. Side bitch got killed went crazy.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Like, he's cutting ribbons in front of salons. Like he's that involved. Yeah, yeah. He's trying to clean up the community. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But don't do that because the same way we're shitting on men for going after the promiscuous women because sometimes they can be more fun or easy. Don't act like women that are not even hos have a phase where they go after.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Community Dick, because Community Dick's fun. You're going to go on a date at 6 o'clock and not get home until 4 a.m. You're going to go to three, four different spots. Community Dick is fun. Peach, cut the baby D. There you go. Look at her face. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:08 So you're going to have some of the best dates of your life with community dick. He know all the spots He know the waitresses. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. It's not worth it though. He got the city on life. I mean, it's a fun moment, fun time. But y'all just getting y'all feelings and y'all be like, y'all, I just want him for myself. And he ain't, you know what I'm saying? He's not ready to retire. You've definitely went out with the guy that called the promoter twin. But you got a section in a bottle and it was fun.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I've never in my life when I would a man that called the promoter twin. Him and the promoter got their own secret handshake. Yeah. You walked in with him. See, y'all make me look nasty. You walked in. Yeah. He made me look nasty.
Starting point is 01:20:46 That's gross. Don't do that? Yeah. He can immediately dick, but you on the riser at the Drake show. Hmm. So, y'all? I. God is still working on me.
Starting point is 01:21:01 God is watching us. I'm just saying. Remember that? That was my shit in church. That was a lifetime ago. I don't even remember that person. Yeah, I'm sure. That was a whole entire, I don't even like, that didn't even happen.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Mm-hmm. Did we help this young lady out at all? She left him. She said she left him, but no, baby, them was two red flags. It's two big red flags. Stay away from it. Stay away from it. I've never read that book.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Like, what is it really about? Don't, look at me. I know, like, the history that, like, Hitler, he didn't write it, right? He was just, like, into it. That's, like, what sparked the idea? Oh, he just straight up wrote it. Wow. Yeah, maybe he's a history buff.
Starting point is 01:21:36 I've watched some Hitler's documentary. I watched hunting. I wouldn't be mad. I would read that. But why is that a red flag? Yeah, I would read that. Yeah, I'd be interested. Not to like, be like, oh, this guy's making great points, but it's a very historical.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Now, if I told you I'm reading that book and you come over and the documentary is on, then it's like, I, fam. Oh, you're like, you're like, you're all away here. But yeah, I see it as a red flag where you'd have to ask a few questions like, DeMaris, you have the garage code in my house. Let's say you just came in, didn't tell me and I was upstairs, like, just watching roots by myself. you'd have some questions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:09 That's a long-ass movie. That movie three weeks long. Yeah, that movie through with commercials. See, watching it with commercials. Oh my God. Yo, watching roots with commercials. That shit is long order at that point.
Starting point is 01:22:25 And like historical, don't get me wrong, classic, but like, why you watch this by yourself? Like, I got to know why. What's going on? Yeah, what's happening? It could be innocent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:33 But nah, what's going on here? Yeah, I need, this question. There's definitely some questions. Or if like every time you come over, I'm watching. You know, look at the book, the overview on the mind camp book, 81% like this book. See? And this is why Kanye said he's no longer anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Exactly. He's such a hipster. He's sort of 81 people like it. He was like, nah, people getting too much into this anti-Semitism. Yeah, I don't like it. He always goes against the grain. Now that it's being popular, he's like, now I want to. Yeah, now that you like the hell hitless song, he's like, man, no.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I'm cool. I'm off that. Yeah, we ain't doing that anymore. I'm off that. But yeah, I don't think we help this young lady at all, but what the fun? She helped herself.
Starting point is 01:23:13 She left them, right? Yeah, she stopped doing what time it was. Yeah, she knew what it was. It's all good. And I mean... Shout out to that young lady. But also, I believe in transparency and relationships, but...
Starting point is 01:23:22 I thought she was about to say something else. But go ahead. No, land your point from before. No, no, no. Land your point from before. I'm going to change, man. I got a whole new game. I got a whole new game plan.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I'm leaving out. that like I purchased a pussy if you'd get into know a girl and you were like a serious serial pussy purchaser is that like something you bring up? No, absolutely not. Like we all leave something off the table because one is from the past and it's not coming back and we don't even
Starting point is 01:23:52 fuck with that type of shit. It's coming back. That's why he brought it up. Wow. That's why he bought it up. It's coming back. He knows that that's something she probably would have had to encounter in their relationship. That's why he How do you encounter it? Is it a addiction to prostitutes?
Starting point is 01:24:06 To her at Starbucks, one of the girls you paid for? No, he was dating a girl, and I think he wanted to test her waters, like, test her attempt to see if she was okay with him purchase and pussy because if she would continue to date him, he probably would have continued to still purchase pussy. Oh, no, that's different. I'm saying if he had done in the past and then he just here to be in a monogamous relationship and like with her, but in his past, he's purchased pussy. Like, why would you even bring that up and tell you?
Starting point is 01:24:29 Yeah, like that's not a conversation piece. Like, she asked you, so what he was for dinner tonight? but you know I used to pay for pussy, right? But if you haven't, I mean, sometimes you haven't like drunk strip uno nights with you, the person you're saying. Excuse me, you're having what? Drunk strip uno nights with the person your dating. First of all, one-on-one Uno is funny as it.
Starting point is 01:24:48 I'm just taking my clothes off. I'm just taking my clothes off. We can fuck at this point. Damaris, stop bringing your personal shit to work, all right? One-on-one, Uno is crazy with clothes on. Stop bringing your personal shit to work, Damaris. Nobody plays drunk strip Uno. You just...
Starting point is 01:25:00 That's her lucky day. Yeah, like, what is that? Stop bringing your personal life. life to work. Please leave it off camera and off mic. The same way this gentleman shouldn't have brought up that he purchased. Yeah, like you shouldn't bring up that you play drunk strip Uno. Like, what are you talking?
Starting point is 01:25:14 That's not even a real game. Yo, if you play a drunk strip Uno, Demandis slowdown. Nobody's playing drunk strip Uno. No, now I have question. What are the rules? Okay, first of all. Like, is draw two items of clothes?
Starting point is 01:25:28 That's not even a real game. Because once you would draw four, how many, how much clothes you even got on in the crew? Yeah, what's the reverse? I got to put on your panties and put it. my drawers like yeah reverses i put on your thong like what are we talking about what is a reverse like teach teach us teach us your moves that's a red flag if reverse and she's like nah but you gotta yeah you got to put my thong on you got me this game is over i'm pulling the police yeah never want nobody's
Starting point is 01:25:51 asshole i'm my thong that is crazy man ass on your thong is crazy that would piss me off yeah but back the drug strip one oh so that's not a real thing i was just putting stringing words together i was podcasting i'm like what the fuck i'm back I'm sorry I'm good at my job. I thought you had a flashback. I'm sorry. My point was sometimes you get drunk with your partner in the house and y'all are just bonded and having conversations.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And I feel like that's when situations like that might get brought up. I don't think he just pulled it out like over the scramble eggs in the brunch and the lucky day album playing at dinner. Like I don't think that that happened. I didn't drink some of the best champagne in the world and I ain't never drink enough to where I was like, I'm going to tell her tonight I pay for pussy. And like go through the timeline. Don't come up.
Starting point is 01:26:32 My guess is she found something. and like saw in his phone or some shit or like maybe there was a bunch of unsaved numbers that you could clearly see this was a transaction because there's no way a man is just even in the midst of drunk Uno and we've all been there strip Uno. Yeah. It was just like I just let you know like
Starting point is 01:26:50 through my 20s I purchased like 15 to 20 prostitutes. It's like really what I was doing. Y'all never played Let's Get Deep or like one of those like car games. I played them all. I play let's get deep. There's every card in that deck there's certain things that's never coming out of my fucking mouth. Really?
Starting point is 01:27:04 I don't care if it's a specific card of run through everything you've ever done. I'm still holding something down. And I want her to do the same. I don't need to know everything about everybody. The matter of the games. Even my partner, I don't. You think we play those games and really like tell like the real shit? The marriage thing we get, we draw to call them, be like, tell you dark.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And that's always when you're doing like the beginning talking phases where you're still trying to give the better represent. Your partner for real, they already know everything about you. You're not going to play that game with somebody. I've played that game with somebody I was with for four years and learned more. more about them and they learned more about me. It wasn't like... How many prostitutes? We saw what?
Starting point is 01:27:38 How many prostitutes? I don't think he's ever bought prostitutes. I don't think we got that. We didn't draw that card. A girl bought that game to, we went out to dinner one night and she bought a car game. I think that's cool, though. I thought that was stupid.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I don't think I'd ever spoke that after that. Oh my God, Mom. Why the fuck are you bringing cards? If we're in the crib, if it's like we're chilling at the crib tonight, the game is on, we ordering some takeout, whatever. We're in a real restaurant. The restaurant is crazy. I went to, I, me and somebody I was dating at the time, we got drunk at dinner and then we went to, I got drunk and wanted to go in Target.
Starting point is 01:28:15 He just was like, okay, buy whatever you want Target. It's the most dangerous woman on earth. I was just buying shit. And I bought that game at Target. Demaris bought a beat shit. In November. No, you know, it's crazy. I tried to buy an Ottoman drunk.
Starting point is 01:28:26 I tried to buy Ottoman. He said, Demaris, we're going to. An Ottoman. He said, we're going to a bar after this. Where are you putting the Ottoman? you go sit on it at the bar I was fucked up Audubans usually match
Starting point is 01:28:36 the what you have Yeah So you just bought like a stray Yeah It was a one off It was a one off It was a one That's like buying one air force one
Starting point is 01:28:44 Stupid So but we went We ended up going to the Moxie Hotel rooftop And we were just chilling Having drinks Oh you could have bought the Ottoman there And
Starting point is 01:28:53 And Nah they would They would try to keep Yeah It's matches The decor I bought that game And we
Starting point is 01:28:58 Had bought it In my Target bag And we were playing it at the spot. Like, so I feel like dinner is extra, but at the bar, like at the lounge, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. And we had bought the sexual one. So it was go home. It was. Yeah. He was at, he was at the moxie stripping. No, you know, it's not a game where you do action. It's a game where you ask questions. Okay. Okay. It's like a get to know you type thing. So imagine somebody just trying to enjoy their afterwork drink at the moxie bar.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Damar's telling him their sexual fantasies. Like can y'all go back to you? your room, please? Yeah, I just... Oh, you're boring. And the thing about that, the car game on a date is like, that's almost like having somebody in your earpiece and to have somebody feeding you the questions almost to ask me. I'm not mad at it. I mean, a first date, I think that would be odd. First, date, that's crazy. First date, that's a right flag. Like, I'm leaving. Yeah, first day, I would be creeped out. That's, that's the woman that comes in not dating for you, dating for marriage. Yeah. Like, she don't care who it is, but I'm getting married. Yeah. I feel like that girl does that on the first date.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Absolutely. Like, get to know me before you want to know how many kids I'd like to have. Clearly, you're just here because you want that. With your eggs crack, yeah. But, I mean, I don't know. I'm with the card game shit. No, not me. So, Ma, what's your, like, what do you do on dates?
Starting point is 01:30:18 Like, what's your fucking date swag? Eat, drink. You talk for a living. Yeah, I talk on dates, too. Okay. Have conversation. You know, have fun. Find shit to get into.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Things like that. Okay, so if a girl told you... Nothing scripted. If a girl told you that she wanted to have a... Like, I want a fun date. I don't want to do dinner and drinks. Like, I want to have fun. Where would you take her?
Starting point is 01:30:40 If she wants to have a fun date... Mm-hmm. Strip club, prostitutes. I would probably take her to the projects. Facts. Never know what's going to happen there. Take the elevator to the roof and tell her to get out and I'm going to, we're going to raise down. I'm going to take the elevator to the lobby and she'd take the staircase.
Starting point is 01:31:01 and run down to the lobby and see who makes it from. I was being serious. Me too. You learn a lot about a girl with that. Yeah. You ever ran down a project staircase? Yes. You raced the elevator?
Starting point is 01:31:14 No, I didn't race the elevator. Ah, there you go. Rory? I'm all right. I went up for the second date. Take it back to that same project. We both get in the elevator and I scream corners and I just see what she does. He will hollum.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Don't pay him no mind, Demarcy. I don't pay neither way. You don't think jumping somebody together would be a romantic second date. Like me and her just beat up another couple. Yeah, because you learn if she could fight, if she could hold her own.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Like you got to see her fight movement, her fight game with her fight game look like. I can see that being fun. And maybe it's a little too for it. All right, date three, I think we could we could fight another couple. Date three. Start a fight?
Starting point is 01:31:58 Yeah. Yeah. Like that. Start a fight on date three. But then it can get awkward. can lead to us going home and having sex. You're like, if you could fight? It's a risk, though.
Starting point is 01:32:08 You're not turned on by a girl I can fight. What? I mean, I'm 35 now. Peach, she watches baddies. I'm watching baddies every week. I can't wait. Next Sunday? Watching it.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Oh, next Sunday? The rogue goes crazy when he watches baddies. Baby, Dee, you got us. I'm going to call you Sunday. Don't fucking call me. I'm calling you Sunday to make sure you watching baddies. I don't watch that shit. I'm calling you Sunday, baby, Dee.
Starting point is 01:32:31 We should all get on Zoom and watch it together. Last of Us comes on Sunday. Yeah, but right after that, it Paul lays in the Baddies. I'm also willing to record it, and then we could watch it together on a Monday morning. Baddies?
Starting point is 01:32:43 Starting your Monday? Nah, you can't start Mondays with Baddies. Baddies is the end of the week with it. You gotta end the week with Baddies. Perfect Sunday night, go to bed and just play. You know, maybe life isn't that bad. Like, that's what Baddies makes you feel like after you watch it.
Starting point is 01:32:57 If he lose, I can't fuck him. But see, that's the risk. See? I like that. If he lose, I can't do that. there's a risk to it but lose how though like if you get put to sleep
Starting point is 01:33:07 if you hit back pockets I can't if you hit ground I can't if you hit ground I can't and if your face is fucked up I can't there's only two scenarios that will work you both win or you both lose because you both lose yeah it's embarrassing but it's a bonding experience
Starting point is 01:33:21 we're going through some tumultuous shit together but at least we did it together yeah because like if you all both lose y'all could go back to the community they packed us out that could be a fun bonding experience maybe then you can get back to kill like you're like yo I ain't a lot
Starting point is 01:33:33 They packed us out. You can respect it. We fought a good fight, but maybe sipping paint is more our thing. Maybe couples fight club is not for us. But we understand who we are. If they knock both of us out and we get back to the crib and we lumped, that's kind of fire. Like, yo, they could fight. We should, we should, what do you think they're from?
Starting point is 01:33:50 No, they definitely from Brooklyn. Yeah. And it's cute. Like, remember loving basketball when there was, like, icing each other's knees and shit? Like, that would be fun and better. Yeah, pass me to which hay. But if one of y'all lose and one of y'all win? Yeah, that's a long ride home.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I don't even, did we get a ride home? We got, how we got here? We got to get home. I don't know, man. I feel like it's okay if she lose. Not me. Y'all speak for me. It's okay if she lose, but like if the man loses.
Starting point is 01:34:12 No, but lose how? Like, how did she lose? Like, if she pulled your braids out. Like, what do you expect me to do in the house? Like, I was supposed to see that act like I don't see that patch. Like, what are we doing here? It's like, yo, like you called your girl yet? The shop opened at what time because she needed to go.
Starting point is 01:34:30 She needed to fix that. Like lose how Like if a girl just catch you And it's like okay she caught you But she can't wrench you though Yeah she wrench you to the point That we're sitting in the back of the Uber And your tities is out
Starting point is 01:34:42 Because she ripped your whole shirt off Titties is out in the back of the Uber And you just sitting in the Uber like this And I gotta stop and get you an NYPD T-shirt From the tourist shop And now they think I'm on a date with the feds This fucking undercover I do not have a driver's license
Starting point is 01:35:03 Get this cop out of my car. I got to this country today. You can lose, baby D, but you can't get rents, though. You can lose. Crazy. You can lose, but don't show these straight, like, wrench you and dragging you and they world stars? Nah, we can't do that.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I got to let her go. You got to get your fight game up. That's crazy. That's a fact, though. Oh, my God. But then I feel like the woman should judge you based off the couple that you pick. Like, if you pick some squeak, like, I feel like your girl is going to look at you like all right yeah i'm that's lame and you got to let your girl start the fight you
Starting point is 01:35:38 know what it should be like a a threesome to some degree let the girl pick yeah let her lead because it could get weird if you pick and then jealous let let this be her thing yeah and if she just so happens to go pick a fight with the guy with the cauliflower ears she don't know what that is babe babe i have to i have to explain boxing and ufc to you this is the disease that forms from somebody that has been in countless fights in their life they're shaking like i'll be like nah i'm not fucking with him she don't even see it she don't even see his ears like you across the doctor like yeah wait i think that's john jones and she don't understand sports brand he at the club with a sleeveless everlast shirt you're like nah no no no no no no
Starting point is 01:36:24 i am not him not yeah you can't start a fight with somebody wearing the underarm a t-shirt Nah Any nigger outside on a date With an underarmor draft fit on Nah We can't fight it You can't fight somebody When the underarmor drop into the movies
Starting point is 01:36:39 Can't do it He got on a you know the underarmor polo Yeah The coach's shirt That's an OG that could fight Oh my god One day I'm gonna tell y'all how a man tried to wear a Nike polo on a date with me
Starting point is 01:36:52 Wait What he was dating Roy McElroy Who she went on a date Because contractually, he has to wear that on every day. What was that Phil Mickelson? Like a Nike drop-it polo. She was the first 20-year-old to go after Belichick.
Starting point is 01:37:12 That was his casual. The Marisota dressed casual, he put on a Nike drop-it polo. No, that wasn't his casual. That was his dress-up. You got to understand. Yeah, man. That was his, we going somewhere nice tonight. We was going to dinner, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Oh, my God. The Nike polo is crazy. And I'm not materialistic or judging that way, but no, I fully understand a woman going, like, I think I'm cool if homie shows up. I'd rather he put on us put in that shit. Only person wearing a Nike polo shirt is a nigga that just came home doing 16 years. And that was the only shirt at his mom's house after 15 years. That was dead when he went in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:56 That was dead when he went in. He came home. It's still in the closet. Oh, my God. Josh. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Went off the rails a little bit. Oh, man. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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