New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 5/5

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal the guys had the girls from "Pour Minds" on the pod and they discussed Mal dropping moneybag's on IG photos, investing in the wrong women, and Drea and Lex's new show on BET, "Travel Queens". Plus, Millyz plan for 100 men to take down 1 gorilla, and Terrance Howard says he won't go gay for pay #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. Rammies. You? I'm all. I'm Rory, and we are starting for the first time, the best of the week. New Rory and Maw. Because they need more. Yes.

Rory and Moll. All of our amazing moments, we understand people are busy. If it gets to those weeks on Sundays, you can come right here and get the best of what happened from this entire week, Monday through Sunday. The best of us. The best of me. The best of me. The best of me's.

Yes. Because there's two of us. Pressure bust pipe. Exactly. Every Sunday. Best of us. Best of us. Best of us.

Best of us. We'll give you the best of us. Yeah. Only the best. This is only for the best for the best. P, drop that beat. No. It's time for smoke.

Yo, why you said that about Moore? What? Picking it off. And you thought you smoked it. I did not. No, no, no, no. And you felt good when you said it. What I said.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remind me what I said. I don't remember. I think it was something about the Trump stuff. Yeah. Right. Big four, five, fours seven. Yes.

It was something about the Trump stuff. People and abusing their platforms are there. Yes. But you say, yo, I take the check too. But it's because I agree with it. I was joking. I was joking. I was joking.

Y'all know me on a little bit. But, I mean, I stand by what I said. It ain't no beef. But you don't remember what you said. I don't remember what I said. How you said on something you don't remember. I was on a podcast and they were asking me about like. It was your podcast.

No, it wasn't. It wasn't our house. See, you don't even remember. Of course I don't. Because I said what I said. But he was asking me about like, you know, how people. Oh, I remember. I was there.

You know, with the politics and things going on. And I said, I think it's very dangerous. for us, especially as people of color. You don't understand this. She said Amber Rose, too, though. Yeah, I was calling out. Everybody said it's very dangerous as a person of color. So this election was very serious.

By the way, Jersk, calling out everyone, and it'd just be maw on Amber Rose. It's not calling out. No, no, no. The point that I was making is she said more than just mall. She said more than one. But to be fair, I never told nobody to vote for him, though. I never said go vote for them.

But you don't have to, though. The thing is, though, you pick niggas literally put money bags under pictures now just because you did it and I was just saying we have to be careful what we say because even though you said you didn't say go vote for Trump if you say oh I like Trump people gonna be like man big bro Maw said so I'm finna up you know what I'm fin to do bro. They're gonna check that ballot just because they think you did. I'm saying though. I don't know. I think people should use their platforms responsibly but I don't think anyone respectfully went like oh if Moll is like yo I think Trump is funny because Moll never really. If you go through everything, Maugh never said like, yo, go vote for Trump.

I didn't vote for him. Exactly. So if you just say, yo, I think he's hilarious and this and that and he gets misquoted, I don't think anyone sat there and was like, yo, I'm going to vote for him. No, I didn't vote. Well, like I said. Well, he's a felon, so he can't. Well, that makes it.

We didn't know it. I'm not a felon. I'm not a, why don't listen to him? I can absolutely vote. Okay. I vote for Barack. I think they should be able to vote. Okay.

I think they should be able to vote. Yeah. They should. They let everybody else. Yeah, but it wasn't no beef. I ain't got a money bag under my picture since. Ooh, I said, yeah, damn. That's not true.

That's not true. Where my money bags are. I believe your birthday was after that, no? I don't know. I can't remember. And for your birthday, I definitely was under your post. He said, but it's the last money. That was the last money bags I got.

You y'all know I'm not like that at all. Y'all know I'm not that guy at all. I'm not that guy. No, but I will say I came to New York a few months. after that and I see Rory we were at the 4040 Club thing, yeah. Roy, the first thing he said, he said, I don't know if I can talk to you.

I said, oh, now he beefed up with me. He was not being dead me. Just so you know, I ride for you no matter what. I said, I don't even know if I can rock with you. I said, oh, I don't know if I can talk to you or not. Yeah, see, I heard about that. I'm in the field for you.

I said, hello, Dre. These niggas got beat. We're going to beat. No, never that. Shit. And these podcast streets, y'all won't be in. Never that. Never that.

That's what I was like, because I think we had came to New York last year and we did a few podcasts and we were trying to record with y'all and y'all schedule was booked. I said, oh, they mad at the stage. They ain't trying to fuck that.

No, no, no. It actually was. It was. But I wanted to make clear that maybe it wasn't. I wanted y'all to think that we didn't want to talk to you. Oh.

That's what we knew. I would never, I would never carry it like that. But he always still leave the money bags in the mind. So I was like, well, I mean, I guess we said it was just me per usual. Never. Why are y'all trying to pay me a guy?

Josh, can we bring up Dreya and Lex IG? Oh, my God. And just goes through who has, can we add up the money bag emojis? Yes. It's giving big bees. Honestly, you just don't see clips.

You don't really, we don't have a, oh, there's got one right there. We talk about you just going to see clips. Clip that. God did it. The first one? Holy shit. Let's go.

And I got extra on that one. She got a lot. Okay, so let's talk about it, though. Wait, hold on. Can we count those? Because it's a slide. It's for like both pictures. You got to go to the next picture on the, on the, on the, on the, on the on the on

on the on the post. So we got to divide the money bags by the picture about a piece. I mean, it's a, it's a ratio. It's a fraction. That's a fire picture. The more content she's giving us.

We got to, you know, we got to think of it. That's all. This is. It's a equation of pies. And it's, and then look at the caption. It don't get no better than this. I agreed with it.

Period. I was wrong. See what I'm saying? I'm going to be. Wow. Wow. You know, the fact that you was counting that is crazy. 61 is insane.

Let's see how many I got. My turn. Lex got someone. Lex, why? I don't got no money bag. While we find Lex's, I have to ask you, because we've always asked Mall this, but never a woman that had it under their page.

How do you feel about the money bags? Like, what does that do? See? Like, yeah. We've never been able to ask a woman that. It's like winning a Grammy. or Instagram Grammy. I feel like if mall is not under your photo with the money bag.

Oh, see, see what I'm saying? That looks like 60. See what I'm saying Lex? You're trying to do it with me like that. This is how y'all be trying to paint me. Don't think of your credit. Okay. That is my birthday.

That is my birthday. Yeah. That is my birthday. But I feel like if mall is not under your photos with the money bags, are you really that girl? I swear, I tweeted that. He's a few years ago. He's an Instagram staple.

I said, I know I'm bad now because I finally started getting my money bag. Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. You took a couple of. But I know he took a couple of. Yeah, that was. How many of y'all got?

Fifty-seven. You know what I said? Or shy. Let's try to say I won't be putting money bags on the help. Don't pay me like that. Do you literally count them though? No. Oh.

He just like. That would be insane. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not dedicated. That's like a different type of autism. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No. No. When I'm. When I'm just. When I'm stemming, when I'm stimming, that's when I do it. Okay. So to the money bag ratio, since you're very political, obviously, since what you said about mall, it's very tapped in, like very into what's going on in the world.

Does it dilute because he's under every single person's photo? I'm not under every single person. Like, is it ruining the dollar? The same way. Is it the same value? If he's under everybody's shit, is it really the Grammy? But he's not, though. That's the theme.

Dreya. He's on everyone. He is under a lot of people, she. But let me tell you what I... Questionable sometimes, too. Which one? Name them. No, you bad. No, I ain't know this. The reason I say it doesn't dilute, because I don't know who she...

But every time I do see him, it's a baddie. So it's like we're in good company. Some dudes I see they be under girls' pictures with a hard eyes. I'm like, you're just liking anything. But I will say he's pretty consistent. I've never seen anybody like under an eight with money bags. I will say that. So that's why it's kind of like,

not everybody just, oh, damn, y'all got an intense research department. You know you've reached official baddy status when mall dropped the money bags under your pick.

This was April 3rd, 2020, and then right after that, she chose Kamala and it was over. That was a few years later. I had to stand with my black queen, Rory. Sisterhood.

I love y'all, but did y'all? How did you feel about seeing Meg the Stallion up there, though? Well, this is what I think. Okay, tell me what you think, Joia. I think that considering the fact that she put her bid in very late in the game, I think they were just really trying to get the votes. The young votes especially.

So I don't think they had the best campaign, to be honest. And I think that they thought that, yeah, like, okay, let us get all of these celebrities to co-sign. But even if she would have had her name in the ballot early. Right. Do you think it was a good idea to have Meg the Stallion up there doing it? body yada yada yada yada yada the baddie support Kamala. Why not?

I don't think it was a terrible deal. She dated Montau Jordan. Looking back. She did. Like looking back is definitely cringing. She is a baddie. Looking baddie. Looking back, Megan Estallion had nothing to do with Kamala losing.

No, no, I'm not, I'm not saying. No, no, that's my, but I'm answering. She knows what I'm saying. No, but that's what I'm saying. I don't think it hurt her campaign at all. Everybody's going to have something to say because she would have had Beyonce on stage. They'd have been like, oh, my, well, no, I'm saying,

performing. Everybody would have been like, this is not a celebrity thing. This is so serious. I mean, I feel like she was trying to touch the younger audience.

And who would be better right now than Megan, especially young black voters, they're gonna, again, like I said, they look at her old, Meg is voting for Kamala, big sis. Taylor Swift said something. Taylor Swift said something.

I think that's the problem. It's just like. Okay, so why do y'all think that was an issue? I'm gonna tell you why body was good. Oh, not what she did. I think it's a problem for America. That was kind of what her campaign was about.

It really was About what? About we're trying to get our rights back to our bodies With the abortion laws and stuff So I really think that's the angle That they were really trying to go for Yeah I really do

So did it work? Look at it. No. What's up? What's up? I just want to say thank you all for entertaining us every week. I hope you guys are staying healthy and blessed.

So quick run through I've been dating this girl for two and a half years We were a long distance for a while and then I would go visit her in Jersey City. I'm going to tell you where she lives. She would live close enough to get to NYC right there by the Holland Tunnel. Anyways, so a year and a half into the relationship, she lost her job, so I was helping her stay afloat in Jersey City while I was in L.A.

Broke-ass, bitch. And so she's like, I'll pay you back, pay-back, whatever. That's fine. Just don't be homeless. I don't want anybody to be homeless. So doing that, that she gets a job offering Callie, she moves to the bay, don't have any money to move, so I help her move in all that.

King. Out of my pocket. 16 grand, whatever, get over here. Still no progress. Paying the rent, I have to sacrifice my business. You know,

working in music. It's not fast money. So, you know, it might take a minute, but I have to do what I have to do to keep everything afloat.

Still no progress this year. I'm still struggling to pay everything. My bills are falling behind. And the other day, saw a text from her side dude. I'm like, Okay, so my plan is just to dip and not say anything. Y'all think I'm an asshole.

What should I do? Is there better, more gentleman like or just say, hey, fuck me, huh? Love y'all. Stay blessed. Thank you. Dimmis. He said like he said that in the mirror. Fuck me, huh?

He practiced like he was going to get it off to fuck me, huh? After all I did for you? You probably hit his chest. I felt for him. Oh, man. I'll let y'all cook first. Cut that bitch off for sure. I agree.

But how should he do it, though? Like, she ghosts? I would just ghost her. She don't give a fuck about you. 15 bands. That's a lot. I think he said 16. 16.

16. 16 bands and pay a thousand more. That's a lot. But I'm just saying, like, it's still a lot of money, 15, 16. That's a lot. That's a lot. And then you find out she's dealing with another

dude. Right. I wouldn't have nothing to say to her. That's a lot of money to spend on somebody, especially if you live in New York. Right. And then you're paying for that shit. Yes. And then she want to move away. I also want to know where the side dude is. Right. And what he doing? Is he in the bay?

Oh yeah. You know that. He probably is in a bay, though. She probably even got no damn job. She probably just moved over that with him. Exactly. I would just cut her. The old, the young girls who are out here getting it, that y'all going to be mad mad at me for saying this, I hate when y'all make me agree with men. But I feel like the economy is tough right now.

Men, because you don't want to end up in this situation. You have to be very careful when you invest in a woman. You got to understand, like, you got to pay attention. If she lost her job, you're going to see if she got that hustle about herself and she's trying to make shit happen. Do you really think it was smart to put $16,000 in a woman and she ain't really showing you nothing versus a woman like, oh, I know she's going to get it. Let me invest in her because I know she's going, y'all have to be smart. Stop being pussy whipped. Come on now.

I completely agree. I hate when y'all make, but $16,000 is a lot of money. Go to camera three. No, say it right into their face. It's a lot of money. But I will say this to my queen. Cucci too good. Coozy.

That's what I'm saying. But I'm not, no, no, but I'm going to say this. It's what I'm saying. Look how fast y'all. All that logic. All that logic. She's too good I know a queen

But most of the time Let me tell you what's happening though Most of the time It's not a man that's doing that Most of time it's a woman doing that And the niggas be broke Yeah It is most of the time

It's women who are taking care And these niggas ain't got shit Yeah So now you understand What a lot of women go through We be taking care of the household Why do you think section 8 is like Oh you can't have a man in the house

You know what I'm saying If you really want to tell you I'm not going to be there in no way But I'm just saying Don't get me started on the statistics bitch Right So you're really getting a text. So you agree with all those politics.

Political Pee coming out. Big four-five post-7. Political. Four-five post. Hey, man. All right. Go ahead. This is a safe space.

Safe space. Safe space. Have y'all ever gotten money from a man and started to feel a little guilty like, damn, I am really taking advantage of him? No. Because the way that, that's why I love Dres. That's why I love Dres. That's why I love Dres.

Yeah. Because he clearly sounds like he. was taking advantage of. Yes. Have you sat there and been like, damn, this guy's actually kind of nice and I'm really, I'm doing someone that shouldn't be done dirty. Yes, because I feel like I exude. Like, I have like this energy that.

I know the energy is all. He said, mm. I know the energy. He was feeling to start rubbing that meat. No, no, no. Please. No. Loki.

He's living right. He's right. God. That is a lie. Pige run the tape. I have not been doing that. I have not been doing that. But okay.

Okay, go ahead. Okay. So I think that I exude this energy. Like, I have this natural aura that men kind of feel like they have to come at me like that. So I've had guys do things off the rip, like money. buy watches, cars, whatever, off the rip, and I'm not even really into you like that.

And then after the fact, when you buy it, I'm like, damn, but I don't really, I don't really know if I like you like that. But you bought it, so thank you. But I also think it's a difference between asking. So, you know, in America, I'm going to give y'all to statistics now. In America, a sucker's born every seven seconds.

I don't blame that. Imagine if roles are reversed. Imagine if there were just some girl on Instagram that DM June was like, yo, I'm trying to get you five racks. Come on, bitch. Give it to me. Are you crazy? See, well, that's where the cultural difference comes in.

If I said, anybody want to give me money to fuck? If I get a deal like that, I know a nigga trying to line me up. Somebody try to kill me. Because of reality. I'm saying if it was reversed as in shit was switched, where men just be doing that because they're trying to get at somebody. I'm never going to be, you want to buy me a car? All right, bet.

But that's what I was going to say. That's more so why I feel, that's more so for me, why I feel guilty because it's never a thing where I'm like asking people for stuff. Right. They just want to do it. And so then I'm like, well, damn, if you offering me this, should I decline? No. Even though I know I'm not interested, but I didn't ask. Right.

So it's like if this is what you want to do, let me accept it. But then I feel bad a little later because it's like I don't really like you like that versus I think somebody who's asking. Like, if you're asking. Asking a dude for $5,000, you asking him to buy you a roly, you asking him to buy you something, and you know you have no intent or really fucking with him like that. I feel like that's very manipulative and you're being a user, and you're going to get your karma for that because you know you don't like this

nigger like that. You're trying to use him for his money. It's just like when scammers be stealing, all people pinching. And Red pill podcast, World is going to kill me. I don't think it's women's full. I think it's men's full. Yeah. If I lead with money or purchasing things, I'm supposed to expect

because you're going to like me more if I keep purchasing things. And that girl's supposed to say, all right, you want to give me more money? Exactly. But a real bitch, I don't like you to like me. Exactly. You just took an L to be honest. Like a girl. A girl that knows.

She going to like you if you spend more? No. And I'm not going to lie. It actually turns me off when I feel like you're trying to buy me. Like if I feel like every time you like, oh, I can get you this. I can get you that. I had a situation like that. He just kept trying to eat.

At first it was like, okay, you're cool. We're friends. And I kept saying like we're cool, we're friends, but he kept buying me things thinking that I'm all of a sudden going to wake up one day like, oh, you bought me a Chanel bag. I love you down. And it's like, that's not how it works. But I'm going to take it if you've given it. As you should. But eventually I did get to the point where I was like, okay, this is enough because it starts to feel like.

Let me ask you. We're never going to get there and you just keep buying shit. Y'all aren't poor, though. Exactly. It just be poor. Not when I was. I was accepting them all. As you should.

The thing was getting accepted. Even when I was for, I've always been like... With the money I have now, if somebody offered me five grand or a bag, I'd be like, if that's what you want to do. Yeah, because that's not something that happens often. That's not something that happens often to men. So, of course, it'll be a bad.

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It was rose reversed. If I had money, I'm not going to lie, if a man was like, oh, can I sing you five bands and we go on a day? I'm be like, no. But if I don't know you, I don't know you, I'd be so weird. I was never a sympathy, pussy girl.

That's where I feel like, that's why I feel bad. Because I'm the type of bitch, just because you buy. me some shit. I'm not giving you no pussy. You can buy me whatever you want. I don't feel obligated to give you no coot-free. That's why I'm feeling even worse because damn, you just spend $10,000, $15,000, $50,000, I'm still not going to fuck you. Let me ask you a question. I don't like you. I fuck with niggas that I like. That's it. That's the only criteria for me to give you some. Let me ask you something. I need to like you. Do you, I think it's cheating if

say you have an ex-boyfriend and he's like he sends you money all the time but you're in a new relationship with a new boyfriend you feel like if you keep accepting that money that's cheating I don't feel well this

Lex taught me this because I didn't used to feel this way but Lex was like anything that you do that you can't tell your partner about is cheating so yeah I do I think that's cheating like if you accept the money from your ex

and you're not being honest with your current partner about it you're cheating because if you're not doing nothing wrong why you can't tell him. Mm-hmm. Right. I had the same conversation with her friend.

Yeah. And we never even talked about that. She was in a relationship. I was like, oh, you're cheating right now. Yeah. Just by having conversations. But somebody is in a relationship. No, she was in a relationship with somebody else.

I think y'all was in. No, no, he was saying as a friend. I was like, you're cheating on your marriage. Like, you have somebody with crazy notoriety paying for your rent. And you're in a relationship. No, you're cheating right now. That is crazy. And she was like, well, if he can't pay my rent,

I'm like, bitch, pay your own rent then. Uh-uh. Hold on now. You're taking shit too. You don't have to take it. I was a good friend. I was a good friend. I'm trying to know if the audience heard that collective

harmonizing that these three black women just did with mics. But when Rory said, pay your own fucking rent. It was like Mariah, Whitney, and motherfuckinacist C. All hit the same notes. Like, y'all was like, wait, hold on, nigga. You can watch me a little. she Beyonce. Yo, that is funny.

Shout out to be tasty though. But I do think like in your 20s, whatever, you're young, having fun. But I feel like once you get- This wasn't but two, three years ago. Well, no, no, I'm talking about the voicemail. Okay, all right. Once you start getting the territory of helping people move,

then we're building something. This is too far. You're taking shit. To $16,000 is a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? So I think that somewhere we have to draw the line. But again, a lot of it is the man's fault. You already knew what type of girl she was.

ain't know you was trying to buy her yeah that's what it sounds like because you doing all this shit and you were still unsure yeah you were trying to buy somebody and you got got it and that's she trying to leave exactly a real woman be like let me find a job in new york if we if y'all are if you spending all this money and y'all or she would have been like well let's move can you move to the bay with me can we figure out how we're going to be together well let me not say a real woman yeah a woman that was into you i'll say that well let me as i get older too i feel like when I was younger, I was more okay with accepting things from people knowing

that I wasn't trying to be in nothing serious. But now at 34, bitch, you're taking cemetery chances. Oh, hello. Because you're going to meet the wrong dude, and he's not going to be playing about that shit. Like, I'll spend all this money on you and you're not trying to fuck with me like that.

Like, you just have to know what type of predicaments and situations that you put in yourself in if you're not trying to take somebody serious. Like, sometimes people be spending eight, not to say they last, but they be spinning it on you because they feel like it's going to be something. And I mean, God willing, life is long.

Yeah. Life is also short. Like, let's be real. Yeah. You spend your 30s. 30 to 34 is way more significant than I think people really think here. Like, I have to take shit seriously now.

Yeah. We're adults for real. I ain't about to just start new relationships when I'm 40, 50, all that shit. Like, this is a thing now of where you gotta spend. It sounded like a nice guy got you. It did. Yeah.

But, okay, devil's advocate. Okay. How you know that's her side, nigger? Oh, you know. Oh, you're saying he's the side. No, he said that her side nigga

text her. How you know that? Like, what's the proof of that? That could be somebody that she's trying to get rid of and she can't exactly get serious with you because she hasn't gotten rid of him yet. I'm guessing he read the text.

You guessing, though. But he said he saw the text. She got a good point, though. But he said he saw the text, right? But this is the thing. This is why I say, stay out of people phones. I need to take my own advice

because I'm, I'm damn near in a two T. You need to stay out of people phones because you don't always know the context of that text message that you saw. What you might take as... If I look through my girl's phone

and I see I missed you last night was great. Just know I put that. See how that alone. No, I'm true. They're going to take some shots. The next one, you never fucking know. I'm going to take some shots.

You can't wait till the you all lands in San Francisco. Lude. Yeah, like, hell. He saw the text messages. He don't know. Because I've tried. to break it off with somebody before I got

into something with somebody else. And if that person would have looked and said, oh, you still fucking with this person? No, but I'm slowly like rocking them to sleep to get out of this. I'm not just going to cut them off immediately. I get that. I had a rocked a nigga to sleep before. And he was not trying to he was fighting that thing, bitch.

I'm up bitch. I feel you on that. And I will say as far as on the other end, I think a lot times the signs be there. You feeling got now. So you knew that that girl really was into it. Yeah, he's feeling it. Yeah, like,

like, damn, I lost 16 bands of this bitch. Yeah. She has to work it off. You got to work off 16 bands. So you got to take your L and ghost her and just move on. By the way, the mirrors is so pretty. She is so pretty.

The light is so pretty. Don't do that, y'all is lighting. Every guest has just been trying to fucking compliment the mars. Period. They're pretty too. Skia. Skid is glistening.

I was looking at, I was like, wow. You, y'all really do have good skin. is immaculate. Thank you. What's the skincare? Chocolate King. Your skin is immaculate. Rory is.

Don't know that too much. Do not call him a chocolate. Even him. No, but Rory's too. Rory has beautiful. Rory has beautiful milky skin. Rory has beautiful milky skin. A nigger ain't never called milky skin beauty.

That's Irish. Milk of magnesium. Milk of magnesium. That milk and king. I'm so deprecating. But after my 35th. birthday. I looked at when I was 28. Same photo, same day

and I said, I think I'm aging okay for a white person. You are. You are. 100%. It's these lights that fucking you know. It's always good. A lot tox will do you right though. Nah. See, look, mine don't move. I'm not doing. I was don't move that Botox will get you

right now. But I like my last lines. Because it shows the expression. I like, I like my last one. I'm always like this. I like for people. I'm pissed off. Bitch, fuck you. I like for people to wonder what I'm thinking. You don't know.

You're not getting nothing. So I just don't get things all the time. Yeah. Face tight. Don't know shit. So in news. I love to look surprise. What is they thinking?

I'm like, oh my gosh, girl, she died. She is dead. I'm like, damn. She died, girl. And it's giving nothing. Right. But damn, bitch, for real. I did the shit under my eye, which I talked about in the pod.

No, not Botox. The under IPR. Filler. No, not I feeler. When they take blood from... The PRP. Yeah, to put it under my eyes. Okay.

I've always had, like, dark shit under my eyes. Yeah. Which is still kind of there, but... No, it's not. It worked. Yeah, I think it worked. Yeah, it definitely worked. Yeah.

But, no, I definitely didn't get eye filler. Shit, I just put my own blood into my own eye. Yeah. If that bad. I think men need to stop being afraid of, like, getting treatment. I'm on camera for a living. Exactly. Go get you a facial.

I need to look good. Yes. I still look trash, but I'm saying like... No, you look good. Hairlines still there. I paid all that and was like, eh, didn't really help. No, but I'm telling you, if you go get a facial every six weeks, it'll change your life. Every six weeks, go get facial.

No, I've been on skincare forever. I just have white skin. If I, like, the whole time I've known you, you look the same. You haven't aged. Oh, thanks. Yeah, you haven't aged. You're not a banana pill after all. Thanks, man.

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So travel queens. Okay. Thank you. How did that come about, ladies? Okay, so. Oh, no, breakfast club is cute. I understand, but no, we know y'all. It's real good.

We're friends for real. Low key. Okay. Yeah, so travel channel. Yeah, what's going on? Travel channel. Y'all eating like spicy food? What's going on?

Okay, so Travel Queens. So Cocoa Butter, the production company, shout out to them. They reached out to us. They wanted us to interview. They had a few other people, like friend, groups that they wanted to interview as well. And we did an audition. They loved us. They gave the position to us immediately.

We started getting on calls with them and BET, and then they wanted us to start production. So we started production in January, and we did two weeks straight. We recorded the whole season in two weeks. Yeah. And it was really dope. It was a really dope opportunity. I love the fact that it shows us in a different light because I feel like it's so many people get reality shows, especially people who have one, let me not say especially because

nobody else has a body game. I mean, has a reality show. Damn. Yeah, I think, yeah, this is kind of the first. It's new, new. Yeah, it's new. So, um, so I feel, but I do feel like when people step into another lane, a lot of the time it has something to do with what they're already doing. What I love about travel queens is that it's nothing like Port Mines. It's completely different lane. And it really gets to show us outside. of our person on poor mind. So I think it ended up working out in these...

Yeah. It's a good show. It's actually really fucking fire. Like, if I'm being honest, I think we haven't seen something like this since like the simple life. Paris and Nicole. But it's like we're really traveling

and having a good time. And the best thing about it is they didn't edit out our personalities. Yeah. Because I thought it was going to be like, who are we watching? Because a lot of times when people watch this, this is the first time they're being introduced to us.

Yeah. So the fact that they really let us be our true authentic selves, that was like my favorite part of filming the show. And I also think it shows that people, everybody loves to say take away the mics, you know, cancel podcasting. But I think it shows podcasts in a different light. Like we can do more than just this.

You know, every time a podcaster gets a deal, it doesn't have to be in the same lane of what we're already doing. We already got poor minds, you know what I'm saying? So we can develop other things that work. You know what I'm saying? So I think it shows all of us as a podcasting whole, everybody who's successful, like we can do other things in media. Yeah, we can tap into a lot of people.

Yeah, for sure. My therapist has told me I'm terrible at living in the moment. How did y'all feel on the premiere night? Fuck, first of all, Jay. Because you still talk about what she did three years ago. I'm going to start there. Respectfully, Rory, I love you, my Taurus king. My tourist brother, because I'm a tourist too.

But you still holding on to some shit she did three years ago. My mom is about to. Mom with a tour. My sister, make him compliment. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. Suggesting that I don't live in the monos,

asking what it felt like for the premiere. Because we watch y'all do this from IG Live to here. Have you guys been living in the moment and really appreciating what you guys have built? Because this has been crazy to me. Like, I think you guys really need to take in what you guys have done. I'm trying to take it in. See, I was trying to compliment you.

He was trying to shit on me. Right. But I was not trying to shit on you, but I ain't going to let you shit on. my girl though. No, he didn't shit on me. He had to let it out. But this, but because we all, let me say that. In a club? We all fam. But let me say

this before I get to the point I was about to make. Like, Rory's a Taurus, my best friends of Taurus, my mom was a Taurus, my sister's a Taurus. I do he been waiting to say that. My sister do the same thing. Drea used to do the same thing, but she, you know, she's with therapy. So, but I'm glad

we had this because it's like, I love Rory. I don't give a fuck. I really don't care because I love him. Let me ask you. Let me ask you something though. I don't care. Did you think that I felt some type of way about what you said?

I know you did it. Okay. Because you are so nonchalant and I see people attack you all the time and say, yeah, you don't give a damn. I never felt like you cared. But not because I don't love you and fuck

with you. Right. But because I know you didn't have no. You know it had nothing to do with how I felt about you personally. It wasn't like a personal thing. But back to what I was saying about. Back to Rory's comment.

Back to Rory. He took it personally But like I said Roy knows how I feel about him And I think it doesn't matter When you really have This is one person I can honestly say in the industry I will and I'm being honest right now

Because I can ask Jerry I was like ooh I'm nervous about doing today I kept saying that to her No no because this is the first time Me and Roy have really sat down And really really tall And I kept saying that But this is one person in the industry

I have known Like the first person that I met They used to network with was like Mandy Okay That was like my first industry friend, but Rory goes way back before. Like, when I say 2014 is when I first met Rory, I'm talking about like Mike Barnes.

We used to be at his house chilling, like, way back in the day. Sunday dinners, everything. So, yeah, so I think it's like when you really care about somebody and they really know who you are at your core, it's like, I don't, I don't. I could dig it. I was like, okay, I'll take that because I know it's like, it's all love. But I feel better now, by the way. Yeah, I know you do.

I get it. And you know what? I'm glad that you said that. Because I didn't want to do on the phone. I ain't want to do on text. Right, but I'm saying, and I had no idea. When I, I thought it was going to be more so about the stuff I said about him. I had no idea about that stuff.

No, I've been harboring this for five years. And I'm glad you said it. I'm glad you said it. But back to the provocateur stuff. I know you do. That's what I said. That's why I felt like anytime I see you, it's not like, we don't speak or we just be like, oh, let me walk this way because we're over there.

It don't be like that. It's just like, it was like a look in your eye. I'm going to get my one bitch. That's what it would be like. At the 4040 club, I was actually serious. I know you were. Like with a mall, she'd of joking around. Yeah.

It wasn't a place to talk. Yeah. I've had this on my chest for quite some time. I have, I can read body language. I can tell because I told I was like, but why you never just called? Because I wanted to be face to face. Mm-hmm.

And that's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Phone shit is. Yeah. And even remember when we went out in Atlanta and she wasn't around. It was me, you, and bleep, I guess. Bleep is crazy.

I had brought it up a little bit at that time, too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I knew you felt away about it, which don't get me wrong. Like, I get where you're coming from. I understand why you felt away. I feel like that's where sometimes communication has to come into play, though, because I understood why you felt away, and you're not wrong for that

because I would feel away, too, if I was used, to be honest. But I know that she didn't have ill intent. That's why I always just felt like y'all needs to have a conversation. We wouldn't be sitting here together if I thought she had it in time. Yeah, right, right. But it was something that I had to get off my chest. And I'm glad you did. My white brother.

I love you down. I just want to know why we weren't invited to the Travel Queen for me. Let me say this. It wasn't even like that, though. No, it looked like that. No, it looked like that. Let me tell you how we did the PR list. Honestly, our PR girls and our producer, they really just went down the list of everybody

who had came on our show before. PR over here? Well, Shay is our producer. She was working close. We can't. We can't. Crazy. Shout out to Calm Theory. Because baby girl over there

introduced herself as killer and I was No, no. Killer's my best friend. Well, Killa looks like PR because she got the towel. She got the tile. It's getting a watch that and make things so complicated.

She said, Killer, I was like, I left my shit at home today wrong day. I didn't know Killer was coming by the office. Yeah. No, it wasn't like that. They really just went down

like on our YouTube. Like everybody all had on the show that's who we're sending out to because we had so much going on and trying to prepare for it. So it wasn't like, oh, let's leave them all. I'm joking about that for sure.

But I want to get back to your question because you said, how are y'all are y'all soaking in the moment? And I say, I'm working on that because I'm not because I keep worrying about what are we doing next? How can I come harder? Because now I feel like y'all try to put us in this box.

Yeah, we got travel queens. But now let me show y'all what we can do next. I'm like, girl, you just got a fucking TV show that has nothing to do with like poor minds. It's something totally different. We travel. I literally like I used to have a show on YouTube with my other home girl

called Jazz and Lex Where To Next where I would go around eating food And I'm like I manifested that we both did So I'm trying to get into the moment of Not trying to just jump ahead and really So I'm still working on that to be honest I lost so many moments that I wish I like appreciated Yeah

I just my only advice to people is that Like really live just shut up for a second Stop focus about what's going to happen next Sit in this premiere Yeah Like, holy shit, how did this happen? Right. Because to be honest, it's so hard, though, to not want to focus on the next thing.

Well, I mean, that's why you got the show and the premieres. Because you have that mind state, so it's tough to balance those two things. It is. It's really, really tough because I feel like at the premiere and I told her these last week, I was like, to be honest, the premiere is kind of like a blur to me, the party. Because I feel like we were just all over the place, like talking to people, interacting, taking pictures. I didn't really get to live in the moment.

And even right now, it just still seems so surreal. Like, it seems surreal. Like, I can't believe this is happening. But then at the same time, you still like, okay, cool, but I'm about to do this. What's next? Like, what's the next thing coming? It's hard to, like, not just be present. I think it's just because we, but we like to work, though.

I like y'all do too, though. Yeah. Like to work? I mean, you hear every fucking sense. No, y'all, you know, like, y'all are like. I love, I just spend my birthday in Detroit to work. Yeah. I mean, I think that, you know, for Rory and myself, we've been doing this so long that it's

kind of like it doesn't, it doesn't really feel like we're doing something. It's just like a part of just our day to day. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? It's like, this is just what we do. Hey, you know what I mean? Like, but we have other things going on, obviously. But I do think that we need to try to focus more on the same, more present.

enjoying it, you know, enjoying it, you know what I'm saying, not thinking too far ahead. Yeah. Kind of just staying right there in the center because, like you said, a lot of people doubt it. And, you know, a lot of people still praying that it breaks. And I also think it's, it's not a woe is me thing, but I think it'll be interpreted that way. Podcasters also own businesses and run their business. And we're also entertainers. So we can't really have that moment because we look nuts even trying to talk

about it. It's like, dog, y'all just go to work. Your job is talking to Mike. Shut the fuck up. Right. So we can't even really celebrate any of our shit while we're also the business owner and the entertainer at the exact same time. Right. And that's where I think it gets weird and depressing. But they're also

viewers are going to look at that. Like, dog, I don't care. I'm going to my truck job right now. And they could make more money than us. It's not even a money thing. It's just, they're looking like you get to do this. I'm like, it's way more stressful than the fuck you'll think it is. Oh. I feel like people don't realize It's a real business.

It's a job. We're running a business and entertaining. Being the face of a business and running a business is a different mentality. Podcasting can be some of the most if you dedicated to yourself to it. I think it could be some of the most stressful

but some of the most honest thing you do too. Oh yeah. Like sitting on a mic and a camera and like speaking. Yeah. And like having your thoughts out there forever and like things you say. Like people tell me things that we be at shows about, yo, when you said, I'm like, I said Yeah, same.

I don't even remember ever saying that. It's like, yeah, that was 2019. I was like, damn. I'm a whole different person, bro. Does that ever feel healing for y'all, though? Because I feel like when we went on a breakfast club earlier, I was talking about that because I feel like when we first started Poor Minds, I was very much more closed off.

Like Lex has always been an open book. I've always been a little bit more private. But as we get older, I love to be transparent and vulnerable and tell people the things that I'm going through. So, like, for y'all, is it the same experience? Like you were like, okay, damn. For me, absolutely, it's the same. I've really helped somebody.

I've really helped. People in my life still can't believe I do this. Yeah. Because my entire life, I ran away from this. Yeah. I never wanted to be on camera and on my... So you're not really vulnerable, transparent. I am, but it's still a lot of things that I keep.

You know what I'm saying. It's like, I'm definitely... People that know me are shocked at some of the things that I shit. Yeah. Because they're like, yo, bro, you would never say that in front of people like before. But because this is what I do. Yeah. So I find little things, but there's still like,

a lot that I'm like, and that's the part that people know me. Like, if people knew that part of you, that's a whole different. Yeah. That's how I feel sometimes, too, because I'm like, if people really knew, like, me for real, for real, the show were really like. But you got to find a way to kind of give it in doses. I think that's the magic in it. I mean, I was always fine with it because, again, like, I started potting in, like,

23, 34 now. Which is crazy. That is crazy. When you think about it, potting. that 23 years old. It did. Should be easy. 23 years old.

To have that much longer. I was kind of fine with that. Like, even getting into my 30s, I was like, damn, there's so much shit that I said when I was a kid that is going to be on record forever.

Forever. I will say, Amara has been the first time I felt like actually stressed out about it. Yeah. Because I know if my dad had a podcast. Yeah. I know my inquisitive mine,

which I'm sure is going to be passed down to her. Yeah. I'm like, I'm, like I said, my therapy's telling me, like, why you always want to know why. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you shouldn't. Think that.

It doesn't even matter. So I know she has that. Right. And she is going to sit and watch every fucking episode. Yeah. And not understand that like, I was 23 and I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about. No, but that's what. And even I'm 35 and still know what the fuck I was talking about.

But I know that conversation. But I know me and I know what she's going to do too. She's going to watch on our own and just find conclusions. And just download the information. And now look at you at a whole different way every day. Yeah. She's going to start peeling away at her dad. That's the first time I felt like, holy shit, this is going to,

be weird that my footprint is here. Yeah, that's real. I have a question. You can't erase it once it's out there. Yeah. I think that's something that scares me as well. I mean, it's paying for the food

that's going to her mouth. Yeah. Like 2017 to now, like poor minds has changed so much. Licks and I have both changed so much as people, but people could still go back and reference those old episodes. And that's why I think sometimes

we get a little bit of the backlash. I'm like, well, that's not what you used to be saying. Y'all are hypocrite. Bitch, can I change my mind? I've grown. I have a ball. Who is not a hypocrite. Yeah.

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Yeah, hell yeah. The hell yeah, it's hilarious. And I love, you know what I love this because the only way to find out is it has to happen. You can't test this theory. We're going to do it. Like, no, Peter got to take a step back and we just got to try. We need to do this. But yeah, give us the Millie's game plan, the execution on how.

So, like, some of this, I was talking with my man, Malian, I was, and we were just saying, like, it depends on, like, the level of humans. So when people, we're just thinking, like, dudes who go to the gym and MMA fighters, you got to think about humans that live in the jungle. Mm-hmm. That's what you're taking it. We got to go get them. Think about dudes as, no, I'm not. cars in like um like like georgia the jungle no like apocalyptic like you know there's still all the kids from jimmy there's still places in columbia and shit like that where they haven't seen

civilization oh yeah so so you're saying go get them go get 20 of them we got a hundred dudes right yeah all right but even like that one indigenous island that has all the people that never seen civilization and they kill like one christian every three years that tries to you have to that's not a Gorilla. That's just... They're killing animals. Bro, they live with the gorillas. They know the tactics of guerrilla.

But they don't get a spirit. You know you sound silly, right? You know it. He's trying to keep a show. Yeah, yeah. He tried to keep it like his theory is trotted and contested. No, no, no, no. Are there gorillas in Colombian, too?

Like, you just named a spot there. A Colombian gorilla. Just show him a brick. Let him get into the poppy field. He's done. He's done. We got it. We got it.

You're going on. People from the jungle. Yeah. Different strategies. They just, they get climbed tree. They do all types of shit. Just do jungles. Sumos.

20 sumos. 20 sumos. Okay. 20 sumos. Okay. That's first wave. A gorilla is smoking every sumo in a heartbeat. They move like this. No, you're not thinking the weight of sumos, bro. You're going to use this. You use the sumos, you use the sumos essentially to sit on the gorilla.

You got to pin the gorilla down. Okay. So we got wild sumos, a few of y'all are going to be casualties, 10 dead sumos on the spot. Yeah, I think that's important to highlight that. Yeah. We're going to use the dead body. Bro, first of all, we're going to use the dead bodies. Okay.

So you take 10 dead sumos, RIP, yeah, stack them up on the guerrilla somehow. Who's stacking? While dudes are fighting, look, you need like four MMA fighters fighting. They're going to be casualties too. You got dudes picking them up. Eventually, you just, you swing the bodies, whatever. If you swing a sumo body hard enough, why are you laughing this real shit?

Josh, when we look up the average weight of a sumo body, how are you swinging a swimming about? We're talking about the most strongest people on earth that do the jab, the strong competitions. 330 pounds, all right? Okay. Do you think the gorilla's going to give us enough time to swing, bro, like do one to three?

How many pounds is the gorilla way? It's measured by tons, I believe. Who the biggest gorilla? 600 like you say you do it. All right, 600. 600 and agile. Sumo wrestlers are 300 and can't move. 450?

We're going to demolish this thing. You throw a... If you throw a sumo... How agile is a sumo? Listen, listen, listen, listen. If you throw a sumo... Look, you see how it's standing right there? Yeah.

Throw the sumo into his leg. Blop. Okay. Shit like a kickstand and you're kicking a leg out. So break the leg. They're getting injured off. I promise 100 men could be a sum. I'm dead-ass. Okay.

They can do the tabletop. Remember tabletop of middle school? Someone get behind and then push them? Yeah. Look, you throw the sumos at it until the shit is hurt. Eventually you start stacking dead bodies on the shit. It's dead weight. Now the people are even heavier.

Now you just fucking get tactical. You get people who've been growing their nails out or whatever. You stab the shit in the throat. You do shit, gash it. Okay. You just slowly attack it. It's only going to take about 20 human casualties. The rest of that 80 dudes is going pound it out.

And guerrillas have not. never laid a demonstration on. Who have they killed outside of Godzilla movie? But that's what I'm saying. I don't think we have any, any, any, any, any, any, any, chas. We did, we did have a chimp. There's no demonstrations, though. It's like a guy with a bunch of guns who never killed anybody.

That's true, but we do have cases where chimps have attacked humans. I believe one chimp completely ripped the lady's face off. A lady. Just, yeah, just, it was just like, but they were like at home. You want to rip your shit off too. Yeah, they were just at home. I don't know that, the matter is. This is the first I want to say faces don't have gender.

Like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. whatever's a lady or man, that face is getting ripped off. But gorillas don't kill humans because humans are very rarely in the vicinity of a wild gorilla. I'm just saying we have no demonstration and y'all are giving it a hundred bodies. Yeah. There's no demonstration.

You made you double the murder rate in wherever. Like, what are we talking about? They were in, and we can clean this up, Pete. Pull up the clip where the gorilla. I got 40 humans, man. He dragged, it was like a photographer that was in, like, they were all like in amongst gorillas. and it just dragged a photographer a few feet and let him go.

Like, that is the funny, that clip right there, and it just dragged. I'm an animal lover, too. Yeah, look at that. God damn, that is a big-ass gorilla right there. That's a big assac. Their bodies on animals. Look how's just dragging that.

Look, that dude looked like he's shit all on itself. He's, he was very calm, though. You better be. You better not look like you want to fight that. Maul, that's your demonstration? Will, it. I'm trying to tell you, bro. I'm trying to tell you.

It's not even a discussion. A hundred men will crush one of them shit. Bro. A punch has 700. You getting all it is. It's a lot of bark. Do you even see the hip movement on that? Bro, it's said a gorilla has one punch has 776 pounds of pressure.

One punch. That's why he's going to. Oh, excuse me. I had the numbers wrong. 2,700 pounds of pressure behind one gorilla. All right, but, all right, look, if you play that clip back, right? This clip is looping right now. Mm-hmm.

So if you watch this clip, right, when he punches the guy, when the gorilla, when the gorilla punches the guy, you'll see an outlet. Look, right there? Well, he doesn't have his left up. That's when you're throwing the guys at his leg. Okay, so break the legs. That's what I'm saying.

And I don't even think the gorilla's standing straight up and doing all this Mike Tyson shit. Like somebody with 2,000 pounds in a hook. Look, break him. throwing someone at his leg is going to stop it. A sumo wrestler. You throw a sumo wrestler at his leg with high velocity. Yeah, I just don't know the velocity we're doing with a sumo wrestler. With the strongest people.

Like we're going to roll in like a bowling ball? Three sumo wrestlers to throw a sumo. Bro, this shit is possible. So we're throwing the way that's not happening. So we're throwing the dead bodies. They keep showing these type of dudes. These is not the type of dudes that's going to beat the, like, you're giving the wrong example. These dudes being a gym, like.

They showed an MMA fighter in a ring with a gorilla like AI. You know, they showed that. But they're saying that a gorilla could bench press up to 4800 pounds. All right. Are you, do you think you can't beat a dude who goes to the gym every day? They're not talking about parts of the gorilla that can knock him out. Where's the nerves at? Where's his nerves at?

It's covered by Teflon. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm with you. The muscle-bound guy that being the gym, if you don't know how to fight, you could beat them no matter what. I'm saying even if they don't know how to fight, somebody with 2,000 pounds in a punch, when they mush your face, that's like 500 pounds.

That's breaking your nose when they go like this. Break your nose. You start with the goal, bro. You break the leg on the gorilla. Listen, you break the leg on the gorilla, and then you chill until it starts really feeling pain. Everybody get away from it. Get away from it.

Okay. Yeah, now it's really in pain. You heard it again. But I love gorillas. I would never want to kill a gorilla. I'm just saying, like, right, right. I really love animals You would never get the chance, fool

I like how Millie said it Like he's gonna be in the vicinity of a gorilla I'm like, nah, you good I ain't gonna do nothing to you No, I just don't want to Like I love animals Like I don't even like talking about humans killing animals but we could though

Oh no I think there's definitely We have like news for sure We can kill animals when we get weapons and things like that No bro, bear hands bro I can't believe you're not going for the sumo strategy Just not a similar We got 20 dudes from the jungle, 20 sumos, 20 MMA fighters. Okay, that's 60.

Who are you sacrificing? We sacrifice. They say in a 9mm can't even puncture in the skin. You think a punch will? Damn, I mean, but you could break a lead of them. I think it takes more than just throwing a sumo wrestler. I don't think we got enough facts on how long the guerrilla can fight for. No, their endurance is very short.

Now, that is one thing. There's a lot of facts that it's not being presented. But Millies, me personally, I just know that if you send in a wave of 20 men and the other 80 are standing back waiting for them to call the boat. We're sending 40. We send in the first 40. We send it 40. 10 casuals. Standing there watching them run.

Once those 60 men start seeing that gorilla peel these grown men apart like bananas, I think some of those 60 are going to be like, yo, I'm cool. I'm not going in there. They're not allowed. These are all. We're thinking about it on some gladi. Russell Crow shit. They're not allowed to run. These are not the guys that's running.

I'm talking about humans is here to die for this. Like gladiator shit. 300 people like, yeah. Okay. No, not 300 people, 100 from 300.

I'm talking about the movie 300 that they were born and rate like as a child you are. I'm just born and raised. You're just warriors. We're talking about straight warriors. We're not talking about guys who are going to see this shit and run away. Okay. All right. Guerrillas don't have the same endurance.

They're more likely sprinters than long distance runners. But at the same time, I'm taking their sprint. over the sumo wrestler sprint and endurance. They don't have the endurance of athletes. What happens when you break his leg? It's done. Yeah, I just don't know if the sumo wrestler throwing up sumo wrestler at the leg is going to do it, though.

It's going to take a lot to break a gorilla. 330 pounds. You throw a couple of the motherfuckers. Or, like, when it's doing this thing, the sumo could just really try to pin its leg down, break that shit. There's people that know how to... Yeah, that's true. I just think that you're thinking about breaking like a human leg.

I don't know if you... The fact y'all are having this conversation and being serious has me peeing, yo. Yo, because you know what it is? It's not serious to you? Nah, I wouldn't be the dumb bitch getting in the ring with the gorilla. That's your dog. You don't believe in 100 men? I don't believe in one man.

That's just a hundred niggins you don't believe. Ask Chad GBT, how do you break a gorilla's leg? It said, I can't help you with that. Your question is about gorilla anatomy, veterinary care, wildlife protection. I'd be happy to help. Can you clarify what your intent is? That's why I'm trying to tell Peter, like, I'm not on this, like, for real. I want all the gorillas to live.

I think also, let me put the disclaimer. Anybody who goes and hunts wild game or whatever, you know, all the rich people, they go kill tigers and lions and rare animals, like, you're going to hell too. Oh, for sure. But, yeah, like, just on this, just, you know, strategy of 100 men versus a gorilla, no, that gorilla is going to die. I got an unwoke opinion, but. That's why...

Anytime Peege does this back thing and goes like this, I know this is something that he's going to be like, yeah, we should cut this out. I got an unwoke opinion, but I don't know if I should say it. Say it. Don't say it. No, it ain't going to be a bleep. Hey, you can't hear what you never reveal.

Mm. I know it's bad because more thinking about it. I know the shit he says... I'm trying to phrase it. Without thinking about it. I'm trying to figure out of phrase it. Because I don't know if it's... I guess it's a...

Is it a broken opinion? I don't even know if it's a vocal opinion. But... I don't. Okay, Mall. Interesting. How would you... Don't do that.

Because I want you to know, I want you to know they suppressed me. I am being suppressed on my own show. I just want to let you know, you were heard. Okay. You were heard. But I wasn't heard by my thought. No, no. That's intentional that you were.

My viewership and my listenership. I wasn't heard by them. No, you were heard in the room. I'm being suppressed. That's fine. With that said, I'll get us down into maybe a deeper hole here. not that I could ever get this role because one I'm not an actor two I'd have to do blackface I would still take the role of Marvin gay in the biopic if I had to kiss a man

Terrence Howard said he would never do that even though I think he'd smoke that role I don't think that's weird if you're an actor to kiss a man in the script well you don't certain people certain people feel like it it is weird they're just not And we've had to talk, shout out to our guy, J. Alphonse. We've had to talk with him about that, about, you know, when it's art and, you know, having to approach a role like that with his role in P. Valley, what do you do to prepare for that as an actor? You know what I mean?

Like, do you just completely dive into that role, the mindset, the person, the character that you're playing, it's not really you, quote-unquote. It's the character. But some actors and some artists, they just don't, you know, that's. That's something that they're not willing to compromise on. They're just not willing to do that. Cool. And I understand people and their boundaries.

But what's so funny is Terrence Howard said he would turn down the role. It wasn't even in the script. We know that famous Quincy Jones article, which is probably my favorite, I think my favorite print article that's ever existed on Earth. Down to Tupac with Vibe magazine talking about the big and puff thing, Quincy Jones interview was the greatest thing I've ever seen, where he revealed that Mara and Gary, Richard, everybody's fucking each other. But Terrence Howard, like the rest of us read that.

And when the thought was even brought up that there could be a Marvin Gay Biopic, and I think he would be great for that. He was like, nah, I heard he kissed a man. Oh, it's not even a script yet. How we even know that's going to happen? Just about it in real life? I heard that's what he did in real life. Like, nah, I don't want to have part of that.

You're dedicated to a different level of homophobia that you don't even know it's in the script. That's not true. They didn't even ask you to do that? That's not true. That's not true. Quincy, when he was asking Quincy Jones, he said, I'm hearing. rumors that Marvin was gay and I was like was he gay and he was like yeah and then he said I can't play the role because he's they're gonna have some type of love stuff in there you can automatically

you know that are they don't know if they would just had that in the movie because he really was because that's not a known thing that wasn't a big part like all right I'll put the um Aaron Hernandez Netflix series or whatever the fucking uh network it was on that was a big part of that story was he was suppressing gay stuff and all the Marvin gay story the gayest story the gayest part about his story is his last name. Like, outside of that Quincy interview, nobody was ever running around like Marvin Gay is gay. Like, that's not something people are waiting for in that biopic. Yes, but Terrence Howard also knows Hollywood in 2025.

If you think they're not sneaking that in there. Of course. I see that point. But also with that, if it's true, I don't think Quincy Jones is a liar at all. I actually think he held back in that. Because after he said, who killed JFK, he asked him, do you like Brazilian music? He was trying to get it. it off like topics. So if it's true, who cares? Then it's not Hollywood trying to add in some gay shit to demasculize men or do the gay agenda.

If Marvin Gay had that and we don't make the whole story about him being gay because clearly sexual healing is much more than men. Why the fuck would you, all right, if there's one kissing scene with a dude, you're not taking that role? You play Marvin Gay. One of the greatest voices ever. This is Terrence Howard. Terrence Howard doesn't have to take any role.

Tears Howard can do what the fuck he wants to do. He can not work again for the rest of his life. If he's not attracted to men and doesn't want to kiss men and it will make him feel uncomfortable and that's his boundary, he can turn the role. I'm not saying if that's your boundary, cool. I'm not, Terence Howard can do whatever the fuck he wants. I'm not trying to tell him to do something different. I'm speaking in general if you're an actor, that role wouldn't be something that you may ease

in to really tell that story? Like, this is a very important story to the world. It's still going to get told. Okay. Maul, is there anything you wouldn't do, entertainment-wise? I'm not kissing, no, man. I mean, we know, we know that. When I tell you, we know, we know that.

But just, like, just things that might be normal that other people. No, it's definitely is normal. Like, I wouldn't do a nude scene. I want to be an actress very bad, but I would not do a nude scene. What do you want to do a nude scene? You wouldn't show Bush or you would show? show nipple. God, you're old. I think you would show nipple. Bush, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't do either. But that's a boundary that I have. I feel like it'd be weirder than showing Bush.

You wouldn't, you wouldn't do it. Nope. Really? I mean, put the teeth on topless. You can go topless. Why? Why? Because I'm not comfortable doing it. Okay. Yeah, I'm not comfortable doing it. And I also don't think it's necessary. I think that there's a lot of nudity in TV that is not necessary to tell a story. Completely agree there. It's a lot of gay in TV that's not necessary. I said Rory and me. Not a thought of text shit, period. That's a. I was like, it's not even a part of the plot. Turn it off. Turn it off.

Okay. And I'm not trying to go against our woke conversation to be that guy, but there's been plenty of like regular heterosexual. People are attracted to sexual stuff. There's mad unnecessary titty's ass sex scenes that had nothing to do with the fucking plot. It depends on whose tities it is. Now, granted, even like euphoria.

Margot Robbie, it made total sense in Wolf of Wall Street when she opened the door was completely. I thought that was a part of the plot when she was set at dinner, we're not going to be friends, like plotting against a man with money. There is something there. And, of course, you are also creating art and let's not act like naked shit is an art at the end of the day. It was done in a tasteful way, the shot, everything.

Love the whipped cream. And even adding in nothing too quick, like the dog at your fucking leg. Beautiful. To me, that was a tasteful sexy. Add into it. Is that Scorsese? Yes. Love him.

Which, by the way, doesn't, like, he doesn't lean on sex scenes like that at all. So. As a need to because he has actual talent. But even like Euphoria, which I thought there was mad, unnecessary dicks in that entire thing, I also had to think, okay, they're playing off the amount of unnecessary tities and ass that have been in film since existence. Like, it's a sexual thing as humans. It's not really a sexual preference.

during films we just want to see titties and shit I'm cool I don't I'm not trying to connect you that's your line you want to get nude I would yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't get nude What if a director had like a passionate Reason why Because I've heard actresses and even Like men talk about it where they had to do sex things they didn't want to do

Because the director was so passionate on the how it moved the story And how it moved the shots and like That's what's up finding another actress Fair? And that's why I'm saying I don't think that Everyone's like, he's so homophobic

I don't think that that's homophobic I don't want to kiss a man That's crazy Not wanting to kiss a man Doesn't make you homophobic But that's the thing that people do though that I think is wrong Like they throw that label on you

Just because you said Like you said that's just his boundary Like there's nothing wrong With him saying I don't want to kiss a man Like now he's homophobic Because he doesn't want to kiss a man I don't think he's homophobic

That is crazy But I'm just saying the fact That people say that And his response Because he said I will cut my I will fuck would cut my lips off. Oh yeah, he took it a little far.

If I kiss some man, I would cut my lips off. That's, I mean, it's a little far. I don't know. I felt him. Like, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. Like, I don't know, man. No, but I mean, Terrence is, he's in his right to.

If he doesn't want to kiss a man, take a role because. I hope he hasn't heard the most recent Kanye. Oh, you know, he's heard that. Are there any podcast interviews y'all wouldn't take? What? Okay. What are you talking to? Have you been on this show before?

You know how many years we've been doing this? It's like, okay. No. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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