New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 6/30

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

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But the amount of people were like, that's how you respond to Jim. Look what Nas did. You think Nas saw Jim Jones say that? And then it was like, you know what? I'm going to go get a casino and does someone have a camera? Yeah. I'll do a voiceover today. Mm-hmm.

People are, you know, people are a little slow. I mean, the timing of it couldn't have been any better, I will say that. Oh, no, it definitely timed up great. The timing couldn't have been any, any better. Like, you know, you want to talk about going viral. I mean, Nas bought a casino to Queens. He's part of the ownership that bought a casino to Queens. I believe it's in Albany.

Oh there's what there is There's already a casino in Queens Okay because I did see in the commercial They put up Albany as well So I was and I thought it was just branding With the Queens to forever whatever the fuck it was But he's receiving a little bit of backlash Of course he is

Of course he is You know team Nause all fucking day But I'm kind of with some of the backlash Not at Nause for Investing in a casino Gambling is the most lucrative thing right now.

It's legal. Like, as a business investor, yes. It makes sense to do casinos. Gambling websites. You even see Drake, who's a billionaire, steak. Hoves trying to bring Caesars to New York. Like, I get it. But the way they frame these fucking trailers is worse than we did with Palooza of like,

wait, this is just a party. I was just talking like he was changing the world. Dog, it's gambling. Yeah, but, I mean, You know, it's, it's, it is gambling. Queens to the world dog. It's blackjack. No, you're right.

You acting like he just created subsidized housing in Far Rockaway. No, it's a casino. No, you're right. But, I mean, you know. These commercials are nuts. But coming from where Nas comes from, they didn't, they never would expect Nause to be able to even sit in the board and have anything to do with opening. No, I get that.

But I totally understood, especially the people that don't hold Nause to the regard that we do or, you know, view Nause the way he's, been part of our lives for so long, just saw that commercial of like, wait, this voiceover is about a casino? Mm-hmm. What? Well, the backlash, the backlash I've been seeing. Are you bragging about raising a crime rate in a neighborhood? Yeah.

The backlash I've been seeing is why are Naz and Jay-Z so willing and able to invest money into things that are absolutely terrible for their community, such as gambling, such as alcohol, which... Is it terrible for the community? A lot of niggas in the community are going to be working there. It's gambling and alcohol are terrible for our communities.

Pop-A-Paz is terrible for the community. I'm sorry? Popeyes is terrible for the community. Yes. Okay, so one doesn't like negate the other. Like, I get completely what you're trying to say. It's always going to be something terrible for the community, but on the flip side of it, you know how many jobs a casino

is going to open up for people that live in our communities? You know how many people are going to be able to work at this casino and have a job? So I, I get it. I get what you're saying. Like people going to gambling. People going to gamble anyway. You can gamble. I could bet right now that the Yankees won't score six runs tonight on my phone. You know what I'm saying? So it's not, that's not Jay Z's fault. That's not Nazza's fault. Like people are going to gamble no matter what. Gambling has been around forever and it's going to be around forever. Yes. But there's also, go ahead, Roy.

Statistically. The Barclays, they thought the Barclays was a terrible idea. When Jay got behind it is a terrible idea. Look at Roy. It's like, it is. It still is. It's like. It's still is. displaced the whole community. Like it changed. Yes. It did. It was fucking awful. It did. But how many people from Brooklyn also worked at the Barclays? I'm just saying how many people work at Barclay. Well, that Appleby's has been there. But, um, but, um, but yes, there's plenty of jobs. Yes, but it also displaced hundreds of people who had lived there for like their whole entire lives. And it pushed the price up

of that entire neighborhood. Yeah. Like, yeah, but I mean, there's a job. Sure. No control. When their landlords were getting offers to just sell. They should always going to be. New new landlord come in. They raise the rent to crazy. Like, like, I've been living here for 20 years. Listen, when change happens, that's exactly what happens. Things change. So I get it. You're right.

I'm not saying y'all are wrong, but you can't just look at, oh, people got displaced. Oh, how many people are going to be gambling and losing their money? True. They're going to gamble. If that means the lady that live in your building in the hood, got to get on the bus to go to Atlantic City to gamble versus get on a train to go right to Midtown to gamble. Miss Barbara going to gamble is what I'm saying. She's going to spend that motherfucker so soon. security money, she's going to try to flip it on blackjack, whether she got to go to

Atlantic City or go to Times Square. People going to gamble. All right. I mean, statistically, no matter what, when a casino enters a city neighborhood, the crime rate statistically goes up. That happens no matter what. Yeah, because I'm broke now. I got to get it. That's going to be a thing regardless, which I mean, I don't know, Times Square being an option right now, Hell's Kitchen Times Square for the Caesar's Palace one that Jay-Z and them are trying to bring amongst a bunch of Saudi billionaires, I'm sure. They do have regulations, and I only know this because it directly affected my family,

because you know, in Hell's Kitchen, that community. Like, they meet with them and have certain things they have to meet to make sure that they're not displacing a neighborhood now. There are regulations now, which I do appreciate, and the things you have to do in the community to even bid to do a casino now. Like, they're trying to make it a little bit more. Yeah.

Because we've seen what the fuck it's done to neighborhoods and cities. But you got to understand, fuck the crime shit. Like, imagine you just have your neighborhood in a casino lands there. Now it's, you live in a tourist attraction, which was once your neighborhood. Like, fuck the crime part. Like, now, come on. Walking outside to a casino. I listen, I get it.

But if we're going to do that, we got to say the same thing about them opening up a Starbucks on every corner. I don't disagree. Sugar is killing. niggas, like, how Ray J said, asses are being taken at rates that nobody has ever seen. Like, sugar is- The connection. I'm just- I'm just saying sugar is killing-

where Ray J got that statistic. Listen, man, I don't know where Ray J. No, he just know asses of being taken-taker. What's the Ray J census on things? I'm just saying, man, if we're going to say that about a casino, we got to say it about Starbucks, we got to say it about Popeyes, we got to say it about McDonald's. We got to say it about all of this shit that's giving niggas high blood pressure, heart disease, fucking strokes.

It's the same shit. Pick your poison. And again, this is going to sound like a fucking ad for Rock Nation. I promise you this is the most unbiased thing ever. I do think it's important when people like Jay-Z do bid for that because I do, despite what most people think, I do think Jay-Z cares about the community that if he is going to do a capitalistic move, we know when to be a capitalist, a great businessman, he's also going to make sure that the neighborhood's not completely fucked.

And I've seen that firsthand just off the bids with this entire thing with Hell's Kitchen. Nas, I think, is one of those people, too, that does care. Yeah, of course, they're capitalists. I'm on the side of believing that. I prefer people like that. I prefer people like that instead of just all the CEOs that they showed in that Nage trailer. Like, all right, maybe somebody that cares about the community is in that board. One of us in the boardroom, man.

Because it's going to go up regardless. Because you didn't need Nause. That's my point. That's my point where they don't need Nause. They don't need J. They don't need none of these dudes. It's going to go up if they wanted to or not. It's going to happen if they wanted to.

What I'm saying is, okay, get Jay in there. Let him kind of like, yo, listen, no, but we can't do that because the community. We can't knock this down. This is a staple in the community. Do this. Like, so just have somebody that represents us and looks like us in those rooms. And to close, right before we get to voicemails, I think they're targeting the wrong guys, though. Like, I think they need someone like Wack 100 in those rooms.

Because if you remember the casino that's already in Queens, they open to Wet Willys. and on Pairo, that shit was shut down that day. It went viral on World Star, actually. Oh, yeah. That's a fact. So I get with Naz and Jay, but now, you need to get some gang members in there to calm shit down because they'll shut this Queens casino down in two seconds. There's history of it.

You know, Wack got somebody text messages on the board. Like, what are he doing? I got his text messages from 2003. He don't even like y'all. Wack going to keep a text message from a flip-front. from 03 for sure he got him listen naz is naz but if you don't think that the snows on guy brewer won't shut down this casino

in two seconds yeah sorry I'm not mad at it man your commercial this is this is going up I know there's one in Albany but is this going up in Queens okay where next to the one that's already there yeah it's like a build around it

like a stadium okay to build okay by Aquita because aren't they shutting down actually too local that'll be that'd be fire if Nas get like a residency there? Oh, you know it's coming. Keep doing residencies in Vegas. Get a residency right there in Queens.

That's see shit like that is what I'm like, okay, I can kind of say if it's going to be a, like a stadium there. Like, okay. I can see that type of shit coming out of it. Like, it's always a play, man. Yeah, no, as if the belt parkway is not already a fucking parking lot. Listen. Let's add some more casinos there.

Yeah, let's do it. But, you know, I think Jay Z should do a residency for the Super Bowl. A resident. and C for the Super Bowl? Ten half times in a row. That's crazy. Same set. I'm gonna be parked every time.

That's fucking crazy. Oh my God. A casino and city field? There's already not enough parking for city field. Jesus. Oh yeah. I did see the Coney Island one too. Oh man.

The homie from here, they're shooting. They're going to be at that crap table. Oh, fuck it. Jesus Christ. Fuck it, man. DeMaris, they're going to smoke weed. They had to legalize it. They had to, you know what, they had to make it to where you don't get arrested.

They're going to smoke it no matter what. Niggas going to shoot dice, Damaris. Yeah, but there's a such thing as making things too accessible. Too accessible, yes. Yes, things are too accessible. Gambling has not been too accessible in New York City. They are making it too accessible. De Maris, do you know what the hood is going through on Fandu right now?

I do. Do you know what these little niggas uptown is gambling every week on Fandle? You're more likely to buy liquor. Even if you're an alcoholic, you're more likely to buy liquor if there's one on your corner, which is why people complain about them. But De Maris. See, I would put that in effect in the 60s. But De Maris, what I'm saying is, I remember when niggas would cross the bridge.

To Jersey, yeah. Just to put a ticket in on their phone. Literally cross the bridge, connect to the fucking towers over there so they can put in the ticket on Fandu and come right back Uptown to Harlem. You know the poppy bus. They're going to gamble no matter what you do. Sunday. It was just full of everybody from Uptown on the poppy bus going to. across the GW just to put a ticket in and come right back across. Can you imagine how many people

actually had never even gambled before, but the moment it became legal in New York, suddenly was like, oh, let me try it. And you don't, sometimes you don't know that you have a problem or that you can become addicted to something until you try it for the first time. And some people won't try things for the first time because it isn't accessible to them. Just like if somebody might not have tried crack, but if somebody offers them crack because it's, oh, we just ordered a open the crack store on the corner, here, try crack. Now you're fucking addicted to crack. When you would have never tried crack, before because it wasn't accessible to you. So of course the hardcore.

We saw Bill Russell kill him at the end of the movie, so it is what it is. And he made a lot of good points, though, that there were no Uzi's made in all. No one in there owned a poppy field. See? We didn't land on Plymouth Rock, DeMaris. Plymouth Rock landed on us. See what I'm saying? Either way, niggas going gamble,

niggers going drink, and niggas going drink sugar. They're going to do either way. It don't matter what you do. They're going to find it. Niggas travel for food. They don't care. Over here, they got this word. I'm going over there.

It don't matter. If you put it on my block, it's just like, all right, now I ain't got to travel that for. But they're going to get it. It don't matter. And it's, I mean, once the government saw how much we was making,

it wasn't the concern for the citizens. It was how do we get in on this? Oh, let's legalize it and take everything over. Let's tax it. Gambling. Oh, shit. This is what you're making? Let's tax.

Say less. Fan do was like, nah, you ain't got to come to Jersey no more. It's available everywhere. I'm going to get on one of like my dad rant, So we can get to voicemails. But the fact that loan sharking is illegal

should tell you everything about the United States government. There you go. That's a great point. That's a great point. Why is it illegal for me to lend somebody money at a certain price point the same way you do with credit cards and your bank? Why is that illegal?

I'm not saying harm. Like, I'm not going to hurt them. Why do I have to go to jail? Because I lent somebody money on a point system the same way you do when you force credit cards down my fucking throat. So the other day on Twitter, somebody said,

It ain't a nigger on this earth that can rap with J.I.D., not one. And Nick Grant Music, Nick Grant Music retweeted that with... You said its whole government name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He retweeted that with five baseball caps. I should have put 10. So let's talk about it. So why did you respond with Kat? Because it was Kat. Is it because you don't feel like J.I.D.

is, well, first of all, does it feel like... I think he dope. I think he dope. I think, you know, got his people that like him. I just think I'm better. You're supposed to feel that way?

No, I just think I'm better. Okay. Hold on the match. Do you feel that way? Yeah. Okay. I love... Not because you my man, no, but do you like?

No, no, not because of that. No, Jid, I think, is a high-level lyricist, but yeah, I would take... I would take you versus Jid in a battle, for sure. Okay. Yeah, not because Nick, my man, but I, I fuck with J.D. I fuck with J.D. I fuck with J.I.D.

No, I mean, I fuck with J.I.D, though. I fuck what I like him. I think he could rap. He definitely, he definitely wanted the ones that I listen to. That fuck all the skumby-ya shit. No, I'm on Jid's side. What's up? Yeah, no, fuck all this Kumbaya shit.

No, jit is... Matter of fact, no, no. And I'm going to actually tell, like, actual facts. If you've looked at from the younger generation right now, I'm not sure if there are people that can rap with Jid, the way Jid has showed up in the last. last five to six years. When it's come to making music,

when it's come to guest verses, anytime Jid shows up, everybody starts what they're doing. Why do you think you could take Jit? I'm just better. See? You feel like... We got to go to studio tonight.

We want me to show you? I can show you. Yeah. Yeah, I want to see. But don't this Jit on my behalf. I'm not part of... Yeah, no, not. I'm not part of Dreamville.

No, no, no, but this is... But like we said earlier. I like what we at in rap with... Yeah, just compare. A rapper feels like, you're better than homie. And then you get in the booth and lay it down. I'm with that. Like, we just saw it with Joey versus everybody in the West Coast,

everybody starts putting out their records the next day. I like that type of shit. Right now we'll push her, you know, just talking about his discrepancies with Travis. Right, right. I'm just glad niggas ain't on IG live talking and all that. Like, I don't want that. If you as a rapper got a problem with another rapper,

or if you just feel like another rapper is not as dope as you. Prove it. Get in the booth. Let's hear some bars. I'm for that. I'm always for the rat. Yeah, that's what I'm, you know, it's hard for me to like do this because people feel like, oh, that nigga hating. Yeah. Oh, they always going to go to that. Yeah, they always going to say that. I'm trying to be, all right, the objective fan. But I'm just like, it's sport. Nigger, like any nigga on the court. I'm like, hey, let's hoop. Show me that you better than me. Show me why this motherfucker's so dope. Because I might not, I might not see it. Or I might be like, oh, he cold or, you know.

I want to try my hand shooting a couple shots. Why I pick you over Jid is I've been a Jid fan for a long time, but it's always been off music. He raps really well and makes really good songs and knows how to blend into a song while rapping really well,

which is probably the hardest thing to do on fucking Earth. I've seen you do that. Plus, I've been a fan of just your freestyle, destroy everything for a decade. Jid has done that before, but probably not the same clip as you but I've also never seen either of you in a battle

so now I'm sitting here like I don't even know who I would pick because I've never seen either y'all go you better put your money on me money I'm telling you get your money on you tell you lose your money because you never seen it publicly I have seen my money get lost publicly

yeah yeah yeah I make a bet with EVE or somebody, buy somebody. Yeah, I'll make a bet. Barry my guy, that's his manager. Barry, we can do a bet. On Jid and Nick? Yeah.

And by the way, I love the Jid and offset record that's out right now. I'm excited that Jid is about to do this, but listen, if Jit want to get in the ring the way... Give me a line real quick. See, I don't like that. I don't like that. What, give me a line?

Spin a line from Jid. Don't do that. He did that to me, but that's Nick favorite thing. I don't like that. I'll be talking with this thing about some nicks. I'm like, yeah, he, Like, yo, give me a line. Let me hear some.

You know, it's funny, the strategy I use in arguments, I hate when people do it to me. Because I say that. Of course. Knowing like, no, no, don't see, that's something fair. Give me any line he said. Records, albums, like, give me a line.

Give me a line. That a nigga said. Do we have voicemails? All right. This is tell me what I need to know. Give me some crazy shit that I've said. You're one of you. Voice males, see?

Yeah, nice. Let's keep it. I got a bunch of Nick lines. Just off this last album, I took it personal. I was listening to earlier today, you said, the line with your dad. My dad fell sick at 40, MD 2020. Something is something adding up.

Niggas can't fuck with me, boy. That was hard. That was hard. Can't fuck. No. That was hard. That was hard. I appreciate it.

Nah, that nigga dope, man. He's dope. I know. He's dope. Yeah, I was just talking shit. I'm not just talking shit because I'm always prepared for whatever. Yeah. No, he's dope.

I'm not taking nothing away from him. Is there any, what's, what does Nick Grant's list of MCs that got it, that you want to see? Like, I got to, I got to, I want to get on the court with him. I got to see if he's, he's really as good as they say he is. Yo, I'm a Kendrick fan, bro. I like, you know, when he was talking to me like that, you know, I have the utmost respect for him,

but I also like, yo, I want to, I don't, I don't want to rat beef with the nigga. I'm just like, let's go back and forth. Yeah, yeah. Go back and forth on the verse. What do you think would be more valuable? Let's say, Jed, for example, since we just, you know, joking around with that.

Would y'all want to get on a record together? We did that already. I know, but I'm saying with this type of scenario that we're created. But he never put it out. Did it come up? See, I don't like that. It's not fair. Why? Had it be objective.

Jid, I mean, with labels, what's going on with his rollout and shit? No, no, I'm not saying it's jiz for. I'm just saying if two dope rappers, two dope emcees have a record together and it don't come out. I don't like that it didn't come out. I'm not saying, I agree with. I'm not saying Jid stopped it from coming out. Yeah, but you never know how that shit. That may not be like a thing Jid did, is all I'm saying. I'm not saying he did. I'm saying I don't

like the fact that we haven't heard that. Okay. That's the shit that. Have you heard? No, I haven't heard it. That's what I'm saying. I don't like that. I ain't heard it since we did it. Oh, you even get a bounce? Oh, yeah. No, I feel the way. The song wasn't even finished. Yeah, I mean, I get that, but.

I mean, he said he was going to do finish it later. Okay. And we never got it. We never got it. Okay. I don't like that. See? I don't like that.

Well, Jid notoriously takes us time with everything. Cool. That's like a very known thing. Cool. Behind the scenes. Like, Jid takes his fucking time. I respect that. So.

I'm saying, I hear what you're saying. If you say, yo, Jim. Man, rap. Okay. I'm with you. Finish my question. I'm with you.

What Joey and Daylight, Ray and all them, would you rather do that? or would you rather just get on one record together and see who could record? I want to do that. I want to do what they were doing. Okay. All right, got you.

I want to do what they was doing. What do you all think is more valuable at this point? Monetarily. I think what they was doing was better. Monetarily, opportunity-wise, like, it's people that's never heard of Ray Vaughn. Facts.

And I'm not saying he didn't get that RCA deal because of that whole thing, but it definitely helped. Yeah, for sure. All that helps. And he's super smart for like engaging. and that. But yeah, like, I think that helped.

I think that created like, oh, this is a new phase. This is a new, I think it even helped daylight. You know what I'm saying? This is going to hurt me to say, because I'm here to be objective. I think the only person that lost some of lore in that entire thing was daylight. No, he definitely lost. He lost for sure. But as far as people know what his name.

We had daylight alien. You're up here. That was the first time I felt like daylight was human. I think it translates different on beats. But I've heard daylight rap on, we said before the whole thing popped off. I always felt surf and daylight were the two best battle rappers on beats. Like I've heard daylight smoke some shit. No, for sure.

That was, I was shocked that it went that way. I wasn't. Okay. I think it's just, I think when you battle in, it's just not cerebral. I just think it's like all style and, you know. I think a nigga on the corner cracking jokes has more experience in a battle than somebody who's super cerebral. Why do you think it's different now with 50 doing how to rob in, I don't know, what was that, 99, 2000, to now if you just wanted to actually tonight, if you just went the studio in disjid with no real issue at all, just for the sport of it, you'd be looked at as a clout chaser. For sure.

What happened in rap where that is the case? Because everyone used to just shoot each other with no reason to shoot each other. Everybody won a participation trophy. You know what I'm saying? Everybody just want to, you know. When did that stop? That's the only reason why can't you just shoot at people.

Why I've been holding back from a lot of people? Because I'm like, I don't want to be looked at as that guy. I still got to like, still got my own career. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not going to let this person, you know, highlight what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying?

He just got to make sense. I got to make sense. And that's not just him, that's anybody. I mean, even with everything now, we get so much information. I don't think it'd be weird if two rappers agreed, because we know what the Joey thing was behind the scenes for the most part. Everyone knew what type of time it was. It's not going to get violent.

Like, we really just doing this for sport. Yeah. Why couldn't you and Jid again, for example, tell the world like, yeah, no, we cool. We just decided today. We just want to rap against each other. Like, why can't that happen? Why would the public look at that weird?

Like, yo, y'all doing weird shit. Nah, we just both think we can rap, and we decided today that we was going to rap. Well, because now it's, you know, the beef or battle is looked at like a rollout or like a clout. Where have y'all been? No, no, no. Listen, I told you, if we go back to the first hip-hop record, it might be a disc record. Did you guys just show up here? The first hip-hop record, the MC might be dissing somebody on that shit.

He might be dissing another MC on that. That's the way, that's the foundation of this thing. That's what it is. What's wrong with that? No, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just this new generation of insecurities. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Like people like, the ego is like, it's different now. It's before social media. It's not constantly in your face. If a nigger win, you know what I'm saying? They're posting that for hours. You can't even do the thing that you're addicted to. You can't even look at this shit. Like, yeah.

I'm caught up. like this is how they view on me. And you think it's the end of the world. Just as a rapper, you think it's the end of the world when you lose. You know what I'm saying? And then you got somebody telling you every second that you lost. Yeah. It's tough.

Yeah. I mean, but I have only seen that happen twice in my entire life. Tray King Kendrick. Chiroin 50 cent. And by the way, all four of those people are doing completely fucking fun. For sure. Yeah. That's like on the other side of that I get.

I've seen it happen twice. And guess what? All four of those gentlemen are. But in the moment, it ain't cool. Yeah. No, I get it. I'm just saying everybody's fine. Yeah, man.

It depends on what you fight for. I mean, the Jai and 50 shit is, I'm just about the rap shit. Yeah, for sure. 100%. I'm with you. Jai is doing fine. If you knew what Jai got for a fee to do a show. Yeah.

You'd be like, wait, he got killed? Yeah, yeah, right. He lost? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. His career was over? Yeah. That's hilarious. Yeah.

But, nah. And you see, I mean, shit. I thought Ray lost that to Joey badass. Again, I think Ray put his hours in, the RCA deal, T-D-O-T-E relationship. I don't think it's just the battle, but look what came out of it. Ray ain't fucking lose. Right right, right, right, now, for

sure. For sure. And even with Jid, like, again, we're just using this as an example. He putting his single out with offset. Let's say he lost. Jid wouldn't fucking lose. He's Jid.

He makes great music. I think that would just bring more hype around what was going on. No one is doubting Jid's pen. No. Like, I'm not talking about Nick versus... I'm not even going to say a rapper. But, yeah.

Like, that, you know, somebody that could rap. You're not going to lose. Yeah. No, I think it's a... It depends on how you're looking at it. You don't lose, but you're not going to lose. You know, when you... I'm kicking ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

As an empty, you know, like, if he got me and he kicked my ass. But you're saying... And that hurts. That's a whole other thing. Like, as artists that people were... At least me, like, like... Yeah. I had a homeboy man when I was growing up.

This motherfucker used to kick my ass. Yeah. Like every day. Come on, let's battle, let's battle, let's battle. I think the last time we battled, like, we'll always go back and forth. But he was like ready every day. I'm like, man, we got battle again. He kept me on my shit.

Last time we battle, I got him. But he was the guy that made me like super sharp, like young. And I just think, man, we, you know, we lost that, man. Like, that's what I be telling he's just rap, bro. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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Yeah. Bars versus Yelp. Can you decide if this is a rat bar or if this is a Yelp review is how our segment is going to go here. Okay. I might get all of these wrong because this is going to be funny though because if I feel like a bar is a Yelp review, that's fucking hilarious. So in our first segment of bars versus Yelp featuring Nick Gros. We're going to start at number one. You guys can look at the screen.

I paid $80 for brunch and still left hungry. I hope a rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all, nigga, I hope so. You guys are going to get yourself in some beef. Yo, yo, look, look. You're going to tell us? That's why I said, I hope.

You got to tell us the rapper they say. No, you guys have to guess. Is this a rapper or yelp review? No, I'm saying after if we wrong and the rapper said it. Oh, I'm going to tell you guys. Okay, okay, okay. I'm going to tell you the city and. Star review.

No, we didn't make any of this up. These are real Yelp reviews and real rap lyrics. I'm going to say, I'm going to say Yelp. I'm going to say I paid $80 for brunch and still left hungry. I'm going to say that's Yelp. That is a bar. Larry June, breakfast and Monica. Larry said that?

Lifestyle rap. I get it. I get it. I get it. I fuck with him, though. I fuck with Larry. I should have known that bar. I fuck with him.

The wings were mid. but the eye contact was rare. Now that better not be yope. They better not be totally that was yope. I'm going to say that's a bar. Hmm. The wings were made, but the eye contact was rare.

Yeah, that might be a bar. That sounds like a bar. That sounds like a set up to something else. Yeah. You are wrong. That is a real four-star review to a dive bar in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. What?

The only reason I'm not putting the restaurants is because we did that last. time and yeah so I'm I'm I'm these are real I promise I'm just gonna put the location to a mid but the eye contact was rare whoever said that nigger need to be a rapper that's what I'm saying he's got some shit to get off yeah I fuck with that the wings were made but the eye contact was rare all right number three that's hard the lobster was unseasoned but the breakup was well done the lobster was under seasoned but the breakup was well

fam if this is a yelp review there's some niggas out here that's dope spinning right the lobster was under seasoned but the breakup was well done hey that might be I'm going yelp I'm going bar Nick is in fact correct this is three star review on a very

famous seafood spot in Miami you know I got it though because it sounds like the last thing it's the same nigga leave the lobster was underseason but the breakup was well done like the last one All right, next one. The bill came and so did the silence. The bill came and so did the silence.

That's a bar. Oh, yeah, that's a bar. The bill came and so did the silence. That's a bar. That's our guy, IDK, crying, church. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, yeah, because I, yeah, I heard a nigga say something like that. Yeah.

Bitch get in the phone when the bill comes. Yeah, that's a bar. That's a bar. That's a bar. Next one. The burger fell apart in my hands just like the last relationship. That's yeah, that's yo. And it's the same nigga.

Yeah, that's the same. This was a two-star review in Portland, Oregon. The burger fell apart in my hands just like my last relationship. Yeah, that's yo. Yeah, that's yo. Because the nigga better not be rapping by the burger. Yeah, that's a crazy. Yeah, no, that's yo.

That's definitely yo. We're going to stay on theme with this next one. She talked over the waiter, then over my heart. That's a bar. That's a bar. That's a bar. That don't even, who are you? Who are you talking?

We already saw, though, in Yelp reviews, they be leaving like real day reviews. No, that's a fact. This is a bar. Yeah, because this ain't even about the restaurant. Yeah, this is a bar. That's a real relationship. Yeah, this is a bar. That's Mick Jenkins Martyrs.

Absolutely, that's a bar. The table next to us got their food faster and their relationship seemed healthier. That's Yelp. Oh, that's Yelp. Oh, I thought that was a hard bar. It could be a bar. That's Yon. That's Yelp.

That's a brunch spot in the Lower East Side. Are you saving these restaurants? Because we got to go. Yes. Yeah, we got to go to these spots. This shit is crazy. We got to go to these spots. Josh, next one.

I got a room at the top. The view was mid. The steak was cold. And the waiter had an attitude. That's yope. I got a room at the top. The view mid, the steak was cold, and the waiter had an attitude.

I'm going to say that's yelp. Yelp. That's Freddie Gibbs. Real. What? I got a room at the top. The view was mid, the steak, the waiter had an attitude.

I had to like take out bars so you guys couldn't realize everything rhymed. So you can't see the scheme. But yeah, no, that's why I'm like, the nigga don't even rhyme like that. No, it does rhyme when you. All right. I want to know what Freddie said right after that. Yeah.

We put both the real lyrics. See, I want to know what Freddy said right after that. All right, next one. Too much pepper on the shrimp, not enough soul on the gumbo. Oh, that's yo. Too much pepper on the shrimp. Not enough. soul in the gumbo.

Damn, I want to say that's a bar. That's yo. Too much pepper on the shrimp, not enough soul in the gumbo. That's yelp. Let me say yoke. If you thought it was a bar, who would you think it would be? Too much pepper on the shrimp, not enough soul in the gumbo. That might be two chains.

That'd be a great guess. This is, in fact, not a Yelp review. This is a bar. This is Big Crip, my sub part two. Oh, shit. That's a big crib bar all day. Shit. See, I was going to say, that sounds like a two chains bar.

Too much pepper on the shrimp, not enough soul in the gumbo. and the inflection too much Yeah, he would grab on the shrimp On a shrimp? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not enough in the gumbo. All right, next one. The chicken pink, but I ain't complained. She cooked it with love.

I took it with the pain. Oh, that's a bar. Or this is to throw y'all off. Nah, that's a bar. All right, see, but Roy, that's see now, hold on. See, that's why this is whack. Because if you add in sauce to it And it's a Yelp review

and you're making it like a ball that's fucked up. We didn't set the rules for this. This is our first time doing this segment. The chicken pink is funny though.

The chicken pink but I ain't complained. And I'm trying to hear it like in a rapper's voice the chicken pink but I ain't complain. I said yo-reve- I took it with pain. Let me know what you say bar.

I don't say bar. I'm going to say bar. That's Conway the machine. Yeah. That's the eye. Yeah. That's a bar. That's a bar.

That's a bar. That's a bar. All right. Next one. I asked for no onions. And she gave me a lecture on character. That might be, that might be, yo. That's for show, yeah.

That might be the way to- I thought that would be the fire part of the last bar ever. I was going to steal that. She might have knew them. That's crazy. That's a real Yelp review from an Oakland vegan soul spot. Yo. Oh, my God.

Yo. I asked her for no onions and she gave me a lecture on character. That's hilarious. That's crazy you found, dude. How are you finding you? These seem to be like in a coffee book. Like a coffee table on a book for coffee table. All right, next one.

I got high and cried into a chicken sandwich. That got to be a bar. That's yop. That's yoke. Nobody's saying that on yope. I got high. That's a bar, man. That got to be a fucking bar.

Who you think it could be from? I got high and cried into a chicken sandwich. That got to be my man. That got to be either action. That would be action bronching or. Damn. What's my man? What's, damn?

I'm fucking going. What's my man from New Orleans? Currency. Currency. Yeah. Currency has a lot of food. Yeah. All right.

So this is, in fact, a five-star Yelp review. What? I'm going to say the restaurant because it's the chain. It's from Harold's Chicken in Chicago. Oh, my God. I got high, cried into a chicken sandwich as a real Yelp review. Me and P. Jeff definitely gotten high and cried to a chicken sandwich together in Chicago.

That is. Because why are you saying that in the rap? That's crazy. All right. Next one. The rice ain't done. The bean still. hard and the Kool-Aid tastes like cardboard.

I hope that's yelp. That scheme is. If not, I need to need it the rest of that scheme right there. That's yelp, man. All right, if you guys were to guess... There's some spots that serve Kool-Aid. For sure.

If you guys were to guess what rapper would be, who would you think? The rice ain't done. The beans still hard and the Kool-Aid tastes like cardboard. Kool-Aid, rice and beans. Petey Crack. Ross That's Boosy badass Mind of a mania

This is a real bar It could only be Boise It could only be Boosey Kool-Aid gotta be Boosey though It's so detailed And Boosey make the best Kool-A How would not pick that

Y'all I should have known that All right next one What that nigga said Wala they go that shit Yeah Yeah Now that's Boosy Yeah that's crazy

She left her feelings in the Uber With my leftovers She left her feelings in the Uber with my leftovers Damn, I hope that's a bar She left her feelings in the Uber Nick kind of been batting a thousand He can tell when shit Outside of the bushy shit

He's told everything correctly That's a bar Yeah, that's a ball Yeah, it's Brent Fires, Lushin' Okay You kind of see how I niggas just writing it Yeah She left her feelings in the Uber Wubber

See, I don't know if you're leaving shit out though So I'm still like No, no, no, I didn't edit anything I just I took out like the schemes On certain shit Yeah, yeah But But, no, I mean, that I would write that in a heartbeat.

You never felt that way? No, for sure. But at the same time, you realize people on Yelp now are like doing this type of shit. Right. They're putting reviews like in bar form. Yeah. That's crazy. All right.

Next one. The room smelled like broken dreams and champagne. Oh, that's a bar. The room smelled like broken. I have been to restaurants to smell like this. Hold on. Hold on. Let me take that back.

Nah, because this can be a hotel review. That could be a club review too The room smelled like No, it's the room So that's like a hotel room Smelt like broken dreams Private room at a restaurant Okay

The room smelled like broken dreams And champagne I'm gonna say that's a bar I'm gonna say that's a Yelp review Most correct That's Freddie Giz Scottie Bean There you go The room smelled like broken dreams

And champagne All right the next one is A little easy but it's for fun Ordered Surf and Turf With a tech in my lap That better be a bar If not, they come in to look for him. It might be a hirsk and turf with a tech in my lap.

That might be the hardest one. Yeah. I don't know which one. That's a bar, though. That is, in fact, a Yelp review left by Conway the machine. Get the fuck out of here. Nah, it's Conway's first three. Yeah.

Next one. I ordered that Afraidle pasta, then ate it in the kitchen. Oh, that's a bar. Yeah, that's a bar. I ain't let niggas in the kitchen. Yeah, that's a bar. Drake, no telling. Yeah, that's a bar.

Gotta have some privilege go back there, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a fun. Yeah, you're just eating it. No, but it's funny. The Yelp reviews that I left off this is a lot of men bragging about what they did for their bitches. In the restaurant, yeah. Yeah.

That's crazy. Like, all the shit, I was like, it wouldn't even be fun because it sounds like straight up bars there. That shit sounds like hove lines in some of these Yelp reviews. Yeah, no, I need these in a book, though, for the coffee table, though. All right, next one, Josh. I order two plates more for the duck fat than the taste. I order two plates.

Just because it rhymed don't mean... Yeah. Yeah, it could be anything. Just because you don't understand him. Don't mean that he nice. Just because he wearing coofy. It don't mean that he bright. I order two plates more for the duck fat than the taste.

I'm going to say that's a bar. Man, that's a Yelp review. Ma's in fact correct. That's Action Brunton brunch. Yeah. Next one. Ordered the grouper. Tell the chef, I'm serious. That's West Side. Man, that's not West Side. That does sound like West Side. It's not West Side, but it's... Ordered the grouper tell a chef, I'm serious. I'm serious.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a bar. I'm going to say that's a bar. That's Rick Ross, triple platinum. Yeah. Ordered the grouper tell the chef, I'm serious. All right. We get into the last five. Now I feel like we should do head-to-head, pause. Okay. Because you guys have Nick smoked you in the first half But you've definitely redeemed yourself

All right Oh and it's easy for From all now I ate some well done Seared scallops That were to die for That's Drake, right? 100%.

Yeah, that was the easiest one That don't count Scallops Anytime you hear seared scallops That were to die for Yeah, Drake is the only Nick rap about seared scallops Another rap ain't get that all

All right next one Josh The chicken was dry But not as dry as her personality That's yelp. That's definitely yope. Yeah, you couldn't put a bar together. That would sound that good? No, but I could tell that that was yelp, though.

Oh, damn, I feel bad now. I thought that would be one that was stump y'all. Nah. That is a real three-star review from a Harlem soul food restaurant that we both know. Amy Roofs. Gotta be. No. What?

Not Melba's. Melba's? No. You guessed it correctly the first time. Oh, okay. The vibe was off, but the lighting was amazing. That's yelp. Yo.

That's yo. That's Tyler the creator. Best interest. Oh, shit. Nigger, rap about the lighty. The lighting was amazing. Okay. Flux lights.

All that for salad in a salad ride home. All that for a salad and a solid ride home. By the way, I feel like this would, if more rap, this would be his bar. Yeah, for sure. All that for a salad and a silent ride home. I'm gonna say this is yelp that's some life experience shit facts

this was in the car quietie paid for the meal you're gonna be some bar you're taking a bar that's a bar okay this is from a West Hollywood spot

that only sells lunch why this review was so funny to me was he spent a whole silent ride home with the sun out Like I've had bad dinner dates where like shit ain't go well and like yo I drop you off in the Uber two stops type thing No you it's 2 p.m. We just going from Earth Cafe.

You're just like Earth Cafe. It's just like Earth Cafe. I'm still like, you know, you left a review in the Uber with a silent chick when the sun was out. All right. We get into the bottom here. I don't even like oysters but she wanted the experience. That's a bar. Hold on.

That's a bar. That's a bar. That's definitely a bar. I'm going to follow this motherfucker. I don't even like oysters. Yeah, that's a bar. This is a one-star. Oh, my God.

And there was an explanation. He got dumped mid-appetizer while she was eating the oysters. Oh, that's crazy. Damn. Last one we could close out. Should have got the lobster, motherfucker. Should have ordered the lobster. The cook got my order wrong.

but the blunt made it better. That's a bar, that's a bar. And you know who that's from. You already guessed it with. Yeah, that's gun. Nah. That's not.

That's currency. Oh, that's car. Oh, shit. The cook got my order wrong, but the blunt, yeah, but the blunt made it better. That's definitely currency.

Shout out to spit up, man. All right, that was cool, man. I like that. Yeah, we did a little too much, but. Yeah, no, I like it though. Yeah, I think there's a new segment we can start to add in with lyric here.

It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool that we got a lot of them. I lost the last one. Yeah. He fucked me up with that one. Yeah, the cook got my order on, but the blunt made it better.

All right. Speaking of true Americans, true men in America, Nelly tried to tell his girl, I don't change diapers. I'm a man. I'm a true American man. That's a woman's job. Get back in the kitchen and change them diapers. Nellie's leading the way for American men.

Don't change the diapers in the kitchen. I wouldn't even know because I don't even go in the kitchen. I don't even know what goes on in there. Is that what y'all do? Is that what y'all do? I would never even step foot in the kitchen. Ma, did you see this one? My man.

I saw the clip. How do you feel? Well, for people who haven't seen the clip, it's basically Nelly and Ashanti on their new show, Nelly is saying that he's not changing diapers. Like, once the baby is old enough to walk, talk, and go to the bathroom, then he's going to hang with him and the guys.

But until then, it's basically on Ashanti. Ashanti was complaining that he sleeps through the baby waking up at night and she's getting them up. And the internet is currently in an uproar. They're saying this is why you don't spend the block because look how niggas act. Mall. the internet is doing exactly what nellie and the shanty wanted them to do

if people think that nellie does not take care of his baby doesn't change diapers they're like what are we talking about like he's he's he's that's just him talking shit i don't think any of that is real this it's a show i'm jealous that he got that off yeah i mean you know but i get it you think nelly doesn't take change diapers i believe that a lot of reality tv is scripted i don't think that that's scripted he's not the only to have said that. He's not the only man to have ever said that or felt that way. No, I understand that.

But I'm saying, do you think Nelly, as many kids as he has, you don't think he's ever changed the diaper? I'm not saying I don't think he's ever changed the diaper. What I do, I believe in what him and Shanti are saying is that he lets her get up in the middle of the night and that he ain't really changing. Like, he's not the primary parent. I fully believe that Ashanti is the primary parent right now. I'm just going on.

Well, I mean, with newborns in general, the woman is that, but you can still change a diaper and put her back to sleep. But I found out last Christmas, my mom and dad, my mom said my dad never changed one fucking diaper. And I looked at him. I was like, how you got that off? Yeah, your dad was a different type of man. That was a real American right there. That was a real American man.

And I think it's great that our generation has like a real relationship with our kids and men should be also doing that care providers and all that shit. But I'm jealous, man. I looked at my dad. I said, I fucking did that. Yeah. What did you say? He didn't give you that gym. He didn't give you that gym right there.

How do I? Amara has shit in my face before. Like, there was a time when you could just not change your child's diaper? Didn't even see the diapers. Yeah. Yo, that generation, they had it. They ruined the economy, but boy, did they have household to figure it out. They fucked up.

We can't buy a house anymore. Yeah, the home was figured out. Listen, man, them boomers, they figured it out. Yeah, absolutely. But now, that's just some sick shit to get off on TV. But baby, then you seem a little bothered by that. Why would? Hold on, baby. I ain't bothered. No, not you, but like, but you like, when you hear men say shit like that's like.

I do. I do. Because I, because what's happening is it's trying to be folded into like, um, like the housewife role. Like that's that they're folding that into the housewife role. It's like no, like housewife is like cooking and cleaning like taking care of the kids. Like that's we split net, baby. Like that's, we're supposed to both. You are the main provider financially, but I know how much those Jiro on Ashanti tickets cost. She ain't a housewife Yeah Even if she was

She's bringing home bread Yeah Even if she wasn't bringing home bread Okay yes the house is clean Like all of that shit That comes with being a housewife But nigga these is your kids Like

I know housewives isn't even What I will be To be fair We've had this conversation Where if one person is working In the household And the other isn't We should probably let the person

Who's working Get the sleep That makes sense But you can help You can change diaper you can change your child's diaper and even like shit when kea would say the same thing like you got to work in the morning like go to you can't sleep like when amara was crying or anything like that of like hey it's your turn your turn type thing even when keith was like go rest like

you're not really catching zes when your baby is crying like just go like your mom and you still aware what's going on like nobody just be knocked out like at that time so you just didn't get up out the bed that's where i'm thinking it's more performative of that entire scene but I don't know. I was having this conversation with Kaz right when Amarra was born because, I mean, Cass has two daughters now,

but at that time, he only had one. I was terrified of changing a diaper, not because of like shit, but like I just, you know, only child, I didn't change like my siblings' diapers or anything.

That's the easiest shit on fucking earth. I was laughing with Kaz on day two. I was like, this is the hype. Changes the diaper is the easiest fucking, even when Amar is kicking me in the fucking face. It's really not that hard.

No. Yeah. it's not that that's why i think that shan i mean nelly was just just talking about putting that on shant poe no i was saying that shanty um yeah i think nelly was just talking shit i think that he just said that for the cameras like you know to sound like yeah i ain't doing that i ain't i'm not changing no type was like i think i don't know nelly personally but i'm guessing that was just for for the camera then i've seen some rumor on twitter this is like really messy shit i've seen some rumor on twitter but they're like yeah that's the reason why they broke us

up because he owed Ashanti a million dollars and never gave it to her and she went back to him and I was like, whoa, hold on. Not changing diapers is one thing. Borrowing a million dollars for me and not giving it back. It's absolutely fucking crazy. They're saying Nelly borrowed a million dollars from his money. Back in the day, that's the rumor of why they broke up. I won't confirm or deny that.

It was our media takeout. Oh, all right, baby. Don't bring no media takeout shit in here, please, man. Hold on. It was a lot of media takeout shit in World Star Hip Hop shit that was real. We were talking about World Star Hipop in the other episode. We forgot to bring up at one point media. take out was the TMZ of everything. Thank you. Oh yeah, yeah. They broke the Chris and Rihanna.

They're like, at one point, that was a source you trusted. So back in the day, remember the main page? Yeah. The big one. Yeah. She was like, that got to be true. Yeah, trying out to end up on media take up. Okay, but like over time? Yeah, over time. Or did Nellie straight up? Because first of all, they said it was over $500,000. If Nellie, all right. So we rounded to a million. Which, which camera, camera two, Nelly, I apologize. I was not familiar with your game. Stop. Not only did you ask for a million dollars from your girl at the time.

You then didn't pay it back. Then you broke up with her. Took a break. Went and did your thing. Had some kids. Got her right back. Didn't pay. He didn't even pay the Vig.

And then told her, go change that fucking diaper. Nellie might be the illest of all time. If that's true. If all of that adds up, Yeah. Imagine telling somebody that you owe a million dollars to go change that fucking diaper. I mean,

you know, she's love him. Listen, that's her husband. So, man. I've never loved somebody that much. If I let you spend the block,

if I let you spend a block and get me pregnant, you change your every diaper. That's, we put that into like spend the block like agreement. In order to come back and revisit this pussy that was once dead to you, like a grave, y'all? you have to change the diapers. We're putting that in the contract.

Before he beats again? Yeah, before he beat. Just in case I get pregnant. But at that point, if you spin in a block at that age... If you spend in a block at that age, you know we're about to have a baby. At that age, you spend on a block? Yeah, it's like, what we're doing?

What are we doing? Come on, man. Come on, man. Like, this is what it is at this point. It's us. It's us. Like, we're too old for this shit. Like, we ain't got another one that he's left in us.

Like, in a minute, if we keep playing, this game we're gonna find ourselves by ourselves like we too old to be out here trying to just real talk you don't think it's funny to have a pregnancy pack and you already got kids absolutely that's insane absolutely we've talked about the pregnancy pack like i've had that back in the day with girls of like yo we ever get to like 35 or whatever and we both single like fuck it let's do it but having a bunch of kids and then spinning the block for a pregnancy pack yeah it's funny you got a pack already yeah i ain't had a one i wanted though they won the one I wanted.

Like when you have a, like when niggas have a baby and you could congratulate them, they'd be like, thank you, it was supposed to be ours. Yeah, niggas get that off. Niggas get that off. I know Roy got that off at least once. He definitely did. He definitely did.

I would a thousand percent take the allegations of me pissing on women before I allow y'all to make this true. What? That you never told a girl that? That should be our kid. No. I ain't rolling. All right, man.

It's the 4th of July. We ain't got a lie. It's the 4th of July, but you ain't got a lie. We the people was a fucking lie. It's Ju lying. It's the 4th of Zhu Lion. Yeah, Jew lying. Every man is created equally, whatever the fuck.

They was lying in the whole thing. Mm-hmm. Like you. Like you? Just like you. So you all like your asses. Y'all really think that I saw a girl have a baby and I replied with, that should have been ours?

Nah, I really saw a girl. So you have a baby. This is what Rory does. He paints a very specific thing. I'm not saying that's how you said it. But you've definitely had a girl that you liked or he was in love with and y'all broke up and she went out of baby. And somewhere around a lot. The only girl I've loved that has had a baby is Kea.

All my exes don't have. That's not. Exes that I was in love with do not have children. But that's not what I'm saying. There's bitches I fucked that I was like, damn, she's pregnant now. But like. That's not what I'm saying. I can't beat.

I'm saying a bitch done slitting your DMs and said, oh, congratulations. I meant to tell you congratulations on the baby. And you said, thank you. We were supposed to have one. All right. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Baby D just did something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% you did that. I don't want to hear that shit. Do. I thought the first one was egregious. That's the nastiest thing I've ever heard in my fucking life.

You wanted to be nastiest. You said it while I am. You said. No, no, no, no. No, no. I just hear that. That would in the first year of her life. But once you got more comfortable being a dad brown year or two,

I wouldn't be surprised if you got it off. That's all I'm saying. So you think I would look at my child who I love and go, you should be a different kid. No, you know, work you're on meaning. You see what he doing right? Yeah, I don't do it. No, no, don't change it.

Every man of every color is equal. No, no. Not saying that a mother should have been hers saying that, The child that you had should have been with her. Not specifically Amara should be there. Yeah. Like, we should have had a child. We should have had a child. You were supposed to be my first baby mother.

Like nobody sent him there saying, oh my God, I regret. I regret having a baby would keep. No, don't put that at all. We ain't say that. We ain't say that. Y'all think I was running around saying, yes, we do. I hope he was my first. Like, you think my goals was my first baby mother?

We never said that. That's what she just said. Okay, listen to what I'm saying. you definitely have had someone you have dated before respond to a post or something about your child, a picture of Amara, whatever, whatever conversation goes on. And you've definitely insinuated that, damn, I thought that would have been us. No. Not even like a tiny bit. And on top of the only place that, the only place that I have posted Amara outside of her plan on her.

DJ thing, which you can't even see her face, is in my close friends. Now, let me stop. I am not suggesting that there's not women in my close friends that I have not slept with. Oh, I'm about to say... I'm here to tell the truth. But not one of them has ever replied on

some type of like shit of that should have been art. Like, come on. That would never even happen. I don't believe that. No, let him. Listen, I ain't going to fight him on. He said what he said. Stop kicking me. He said what he said.

I don't want to fight. That's the thing with me, baby. I like to fight. I'm fighting now. You're lying. You look at me in my eyes and you're lying. The only girl I could think of that would have the audacity to say that doesn't want kids. There's one girl I could think that would say some shit like that because I know her personality.

He keeps taking us to a dead end. I'm reversed. Yo, nigga, you lie. You reverse out of the dead end. I ain't even. I ain't even. I ain't, okay. You have you told a girl yet that you, that I'm already a sister?

No, but I will get that off one day Well He's trying to give us a little bone right there He's like nah But I will get that You got it off already You said that shit Well you was fucking thigh in

You was five inches in I'm not Hold on hold on I didn't do that We was It was fun before Everything was fun before I am not co-signed

It was fun before I'm not It was fun before I'm just saying I said. Baby they went crazy. She, I had nothing to do with that. That was in my energy. That's not what I was going on.

You can talk about my child's life. You could talk about my child's life. But throwing five inches on this, it's crazy. I wasn't on that energy. Let me clean it up. Let me clean it up. Let me clean it. I'm not saying that you was all the way in.

No, no, no. You was just five in. It was a couple inches left, my guy. I wasn't, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't doing you like that. I was playing just the tip with five, right? Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

You wasn't even all the way in yet and you was telling her that. He's a foot. I don't know. I'm on a lot. John said five a bet. Josh,

hey. Nah, once I found on this podcast, I want to know less about shoes. Motherfugners was walking around a non-soft. Yeah, nah.

Five of just a tip is nuts. Yeah, I'm cool. I don't want no part of that conversation. My bad. My bad. That's why y'all can't have me on this couch. Okay.

My bad. I can assure you guys, I have not said that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that one day maybe I won't say that. But no, I have not gotten that off. I have not been participating in those

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