New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 7/21

Episode Date: July 27, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal the guys analyze The Clipse and Travis Scott's first week album sales, react to Tyler The Creator's "Don't Tap The Glass", play "This or That" with Grafh, and share secret nicknames saved on their phones #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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112K sold first week. That is incredible numbers. I keep saying 112, 118, which one? Is it? I've seen conflicting ones, but I'm looking at a win, man. It's a win for hip-hop. Billboard shit here, and it's 112 here. 54, almost 55,000 peer sales, which I think is incredible too.

Independent? Yeah, which despite what people, when they see the Rock Nation thing, and here I go caping when I'm really not, I'm just telling you the truth, Rock Nation's label folded into a distribution company. So you can sign a Rock Nation and not be on their label. you can just sign to their distribution company. Yeah. There is a million artists that y'all think are purely independent

that use Rock's distribution. People use TuneCore. They're still independent, right? Like, it's just another version of that. But that also means they're going to like want to check on their investment too. If they get a percentage of what you do, why wouldn't we try to help y'all push anything? Right.

And also, what's wrong with that? The new fan shit of trying to kill TDE for like giving Dochi a lot of, looks and all this major, oh, they got a major, that's the point of your label is to push you. You guys have seen labels be so shitty for so long that y'all get confused when a label does their job and say there's something wrong with it. Like, that's only in our face because of label. Yeah, that's the fucking point. Right.

And I don't know, how do you feel about this clip's perspective of their rollout? I think it was amazing. We came on here and said it's been one of the better rollouts. But the way it's been turned into this machine manipulation is absolutely insane to me. What publication media outlet did the clips do that not every single fucking artist has done before? I think what the clips did was was dope. I mean, it felt like an old school rollout. They actually was out, you know, moving around, doing the work.

But on top of the rollout and things like that, you know, one thing that a lot of people don't understand, Rory, is the work that goes on behind the scenes. for these rollouts. This is months in advance that these things have to be planned. But the bottom line, because you could have the greatest rollout, but if the music doesn't stand up to the rollout and doesn't stand up to all of the things and us constantly seeing this in our face, that's when it's a problem. Now, what the clips did, the music, it spoke for itself. You know, they did what they were supposed to do on that side of it. The rollout helped amplify it and let people know that the album was coming.

I love what they're doing from the vinals, the artwork, the sneakers. You know, everything that they're doing is intentional. It makes sense. It seems like it's a well-executed plan to back up a well-executed body of work. Exactly. And I'm glad you said intentional. Because to finish my point, yeah, the clips didn't go anywhere that anyone else had. Anytime they went somewhere, they made it intentional and it sat with the audience.

When they spoke about even if you disagreed with it, even if you said, oh, it's clout chacey with the push and Travis shit. Every time the clips went somewhere, they made something count, whether they were talking about their parents passing. Yeah. Every, whether they were just playing Jada in Fat Joe, some of the songs before on camera. And you just said, Jada just had the disgusting, that's intentional. That's a great. You're taking a platform that has a lot of numbers and the audience is leaving with something that has to do with your project. Yeah.

So, yeah, you could say they had the machine, but the machine wasn't in the room with them when they were being interviewed. when they were promoting it. You think push and malice need rock nation or even Stephen Victor, one of the best managers, or even Stephen, to get the looks that they got. No, because they've been in this business. 25 years have their own connections. People love them.

They are legends in their own right, legendary catalog, started with Farrell. No, maybe people just like the clips and maybe they're very good at what they do because I would love to see what look the clips got that every A-list artist on a major hasn't gotten. Yeah, no, I think the clips, what they did was they just spoke to their fan base. They catered to their fan base.

If you're new to the clips, I'm sure that they welcome that as well. But I think they focused on their core. They focused on what they do. They didn't go too far away from the clips brand and the things that they would naturally align themselves with. Again, do I feel like some of it was cloud chasing? Yeah, I feel like the Travis shit was a little cloud chasing. Can we look up the definition of cloud chasing?

because we've talked about it before. Isn't marketing clout chasers? Let's look up the definition of clout. You already know what chasing. But it's been manipulated to the culturally. But even if it is, right? Even if I feel like the Travis shit was unnecessary and it was to, you know, kind of amplify things, cool.

My thing is the music still stood though. The music was still good. And before anything Travis related, all those interviews, they were reacting to a song. Yeah. It's not like there was no music. related to because of course we always want rappers to rap about how they feel. I always want to know how push feels, even if it is at Travis's expense. It's not like he just went on an interview run talking about it. They were asking about a verse he had in a song. So, you know, if you're going to do that, yeah, it's in the music. Yeah. That's all that. And in the music, the music was great. Again, you know, they didn't go far away from their formula with Farrell. I mean, and if you're blessed enough to have Farrell, you know, in charge of your music and in the studio. producing your music.

I mean, you really just got a layup at that point. Like, it's like, you know, Pharrell set the screen. You can go get a bucket. So, I mean, I think the clips did what they were supposed to do, man. This just speaks to keeping true to your formula, keeping true to your brand, keeping true to it is what you do, keeping true to your audience, feeding your audience, you know, in a time like now where it's a lot of other things in the space and sounds and things like that, you know, it takes a certain type of person to know who they are and know what they

found is to stay true to it and deliver. And that's what they did. Whether you like the clips or not, you can't, there's no doubt that they stayed true to who they are and execute it. And everyone that has been trying to put like a negative connotation to their numbers or, you know, trying to focus on everything but the music. I think you brought up a great point of through their rollout and music, stayed to their core and look what happened.

It leaked over to people that weren't their core. Yeah. They got in front of everyone not by having to do. Of course, the Travis thing was one thing, but they focused music. platforms even said, we only want to speak to certain people with this shit. Your core is what you focused on, and it went past your core. That's why focusing on your core first is always the best route. Always the best way.

I saw a lot of people comparing with Jack Boys, and congrats to Chase, Trave, everybody. 250 first week, crazy, 181 peer sales. They did 250? 251. Now, that brought up between, why I brought up Jack Boys. That's surprising. I'm not going to, I didn't see anybody talking about the album. No, Travis went number one with a mixtape that was like 10 years old that he

re-released with a T-shirt. Yeah, that's, that's why. It didn't really shock me. It brought up a lot of points over the past week with the Clips and Jack Boys, because like you said, clips did a lot of cool shit with different vinyl covers, different merch pieces, push even said, I forgot, maybe it was with Joe and Jada, that they plan to do more merch collabs with this album. I'm sure that the record will be part of it when you put.

purchase the clothes. That's what Jack Boy's done. That's always been something people say about Travis. Remember when Nikki went on that whole fucking crazy rant? And then Billboard changed the rules in 2020. Then 2023, I want to say, they changed it back. That's why we're still able to do the bundle thing. But you have to have the album available for purchase by itself. And then only one t-shirt and album can be sold together. Okay. That's the only bundles you're allowed to do. This was connected, this album was connected to some Jack Boys merch? A lot of it. Okay.

That's why, that changes things a little bit. I want to make it clear. Like, Pure Sales also comes from buying direct on iTunes, buying direct vinals and everything. So they accuse the clips and Jack Boys of like, you know, the margins are kind of crazy, but not too far off for people that do bundles. It's about half. Okay.

Who cares? I understood Nikki's shit because to a superstar like Nicky Minaj, a lot of, A lot of perception in number one, does matter. I get it. But the fans that get mad about this shit, I don't understand. So Billboard, we have no artist union. We can't even regulate how Billboard even counts anything. We allowed streaming to set the exact price of what our songs are worth without even a hearing, a trial.

Nothing. They said, this is the market value, no matter who the fuck you are. And this is it. And we said, okay, here's my music. we're not allowed to go try to find a loophole so we can make some more money. You already fucked us by setting a standard that only really benefits y'all at the end of the fucking day.

We're not allowed to go outside the lines, the labels we signed to are in bed with you. So why the fuck would I be mad at Travis or malice or push to find a way to go direct to their consumers to make more money off their hard work? The fuck is y'all mad at an artist for? Be mad at the... that we have to do this.

Because there's no reason that Travis Scott's song should be worth 0.00001 of a penny. Right. And you also know how to design clothes? You're fucking right. I'm gonna find a loophole.

Yeah, I just, I think that, you know, people get- That's what crazy that I do forever is try to find a loophole out of the system that y'all create that we can't go outside of. And now the fans of creatives are going like, oh, no, how are you doing that shit?

That's cheating. No, we've been cheated. Yeah, I think that's the part of it that fans don't really look at and don't really take into, you know, account. Is, yes, I understand, you know, you're saying, oh, well, the numbers only like that because they have merch with it. Yeah, but on the artist side, they're looking at it like, well, shit, we got to find a way to make money.

We got to find a way to, you know, capitalize off of this album. We can't do it purely off of streaming because of, like you said, what they're paying us for a stream. So, I mean, you know, but again, it's not the, it's not the, it's not. not the consumer's responsibility to, one, know that or think about that. The consumer's responsibility is to consume and decide whether or not they enjoy it or not. They don't really have to get into the business side of it. But they, you know, when they do, when they express themselves and they're mad about something, the information should be available to them, hey,

listen, like you said, the artist is only getting paid this small percentage on their music? Is it not fair for the artist to find a way to kind of capitalize and make money off of their music in another lane. I think it is. You know what I'm saying? Whether that affects the sales and how fans look at the numbers and who's number one, who's number two. Like I said, some of my favorite albums, I don't know where they landed on the charts. I don't know what they sold first week. I have no idea. And on top of that, and I'm not like taking a shot of billboard anything. It's really because we have no artist union that can regulate it. We don't even know how the fuck billboard counts anything. Right. There's no checks or balances of like, all right, can I audit billboards?

Mm-hmm. Like, you can't do that. So artists just have to do what is better for them. And we talked about back to like the Nikki thing. I do understand that some major label artists, especially at that level, have stipulation in their contract. Like if you get a number one album, certain budget gets open. Like accolades do matter. It matters with Grammys. Perception is a thing in artistry. So, okay, if you set the standard that I have to have a number one album, I'm a creative. I'm not going to find a way to do it. I have to manipulate the system that you won't change. So I'll also do that. I'll also do that. I'm I'll also sell a T-shirt and not even put an extra $9.99 on it, but you're still getting a digital download.

I'll even take the hit financially to do the perception thing because you have created a contract where I need to be in the top 10 to matter at your label or to open a certain budget or have any leverage when I renegotiate. Right. I can't get this Grammy because, oh, if you look at Billboard, it doesn't match our Grammy standards. Yeah, artists are just doing what's best for them that doesn't affect the fans whatsoever. All just got to pivot, man. Artis got to find a way to still capitalize off their art if it means, you know, attaching it to a fire piece of merch and things like that. That's just the game that has to be played.

When the Caled Travis, Travis, Tyler thing happened. Remember, where their fight for number one in that whole corny situation on, you know, Callad's behalf. We all have corny moments. I'm not shitting on Khalid. His shit when he didn't beat Tyler. Tyler was pure. I'm sure he did a merch bundle somewhere in there.

But he tied that. to an energy, he was selling cases of energy drinks and we didn't even know that was tied to. I was at 7-Eleven. Didn't know I just bought a Caled out of him. Yeah, you know now. And here's the thing. I know number one matters a lot to Caled. It's part of, it's part of his brand and his perception, which I totally get that. Yeah. I also didn't care. Like if that's how Khalid can make money on the back end and has a deal with the energy company, to me that's good business. Yeah. Like, I mean, unless they're like harming people overseas to create this energy drink. I don't like, why as a fan would I be fucking mad at that?

Yeah, only time, only time I'm so weird to me. Only time I look at it a weird way is when the music is trash. And you tell me that's number one. That's when I'm like, you'll cut the shit, man. Like that album is fucking terrible. Like, but if the music is fired, the album is dope, I don't care if it's a hoodie or some sneakers or energy drink tied to that. I don't care. as long as the music is good.

When the music is not good and y'all try to tell me this is the number one album, that's when I'm looking at you. Like, man, get out of it. That's not the number one album. Literally, to this day, I feel like the first Patriot Act,

Big Brother looking over you was you too in all Apple products. You two has been part of my life whether I like it or not. So we're supposed to get mad when Hove does a deal with Samsung and it's a million copies before the album even comes out.

I don't care. Is Magna Carta good? Why the fuck would that bother you? Yeah, I get it. I get it. But as fans, you know, they support who they support, man, and they want to see their people at number one. And if somebody has a hoodie that's dope, but the album is not.

And now that album is number one, I get that part of it. So I get why people upset. I think a lot of fans, myself included sometimes, which is... Your merch can't be better than the album. Let's put that out there. Your merch can't be better than the album. It happens. But here's...

That's when the problem is the thing. I, you know, as a moral fan of music, do have an issue with people that are not artists that are just here for a lick. But if your music is trash and your actual talent is to create merch and you're using your shitty YouTube-type beat shit to get eyes in front of your actual talent,

I don't care. I don't. But you're speaking from a creative. And I understand it, and I get it. I understand. A creative that also realized, that integrity doesn't pay the mortgage sometimes. And I'm not saying go do some shit

against your integrity or against your moral value. But if you can capitalize and get $10 instead of $5 out of your core fan base and your fan base can't wait to do that because your product is also good, what the fuck is the problem? Yeah, I get it. I understand that. I want to ask these fans to break down,

what would you do in this situation? That needs to be an app. Anyone that does a tweet that's like really criticizing someone's business move that doesn't, again, like hurt anyone. It should give you this scenario of like, what would you do in this? Yes or no? Would you take this advance?

Would you take that? All right, if Kaz came to you to do all your artwork and then wants to do five different vials as limited edition, charge this much money, yes or no? Right. Yeah, no, I get it. Of course you do that. I don't know. Makes sense.

As long as Tyler the creator don't have the number one album next week, I'm cool. Why? That shit is trash. Oh, it's been three hours It's been three hours of trash Really? That shit is not it And I love it

You know I fuck with Tyler That album is not it bro Really? I don't like it Rory I don't like it It's been one listen Because again we're recording this on Monday

It came out 6 a.m. on Monday Which I want to say I love that Tyler's last two albums He's done this Morning on Monday You could live with it throughout the week I like that The weekend

I like dropping it on Monday You know Friday Yeah people have shit to do Sometimes it's tough to live with an album I like Monday morning, fuck the numbers, fuck playlisting, but not every artist can do that. Tyler's Tyler, so he can do that. Yeah, he has a luxury of doing that.

I miss Tuesday releases. Like, I like this. So I haven't had much time. I loved it off the first listen. Loved it? Yeah. No fucking way. Our taste levels are not that different, bro.

It's a fun project. You can have, yes, it is. It's a fun project. That's just not it. Oh, so you're going to get really pissed at my comparison. What are you paying this to? Oh, shit. it's what 21 minutes?

Oh yeah. Straight to the point album. I am not comparing them sonically or lyrically. I'm saying to me, this is like his King Disease Magic type series. It's straight, it's good beats,

some bars, nothing's overthought. It's just music. It's just straight to the fucking point of here's a great beat and here's some raps. Listen, I'll listen to it. It's that version of the King's disease shit

in magic, the way Nas and has and, hit boy did. Listen. Like, we're not overthinking this. This is just great beats and great rhymes. That's cool. And sometimes not overthinking it is great.

This is one time we're not overthinking it didn't land on the side of great. To me, I love Tyler the Creator. I think he's dope. I love everything he does visually. I love his whole aesthetic, his brand. I fuck with him. This project, I'm not going to go back and listen to this much, if at all. Really?

It just didn't. I listened to twice, maybe two and a half. I turned it off when I got here on the third listen. It's just not... What don't you like about? I get it. You're taking a chance sonically, musically. You're doing something different, trying to sound different.

Here's the thing. I don't think there's like a risk here. I think it's just kind of straight to the point like this is a mashup of all the sounds Tyler has had over the last 15 years. Yeah, the match. I don't think there's any risk. I think this is Tyler in a true form of him not wanting to do

three years in between albums like he used to. and just coming back with some 21 minutes instead of letting shit sit on a hard drive. I did it. Here you go. He could have kept this 21 minutes, though. We ain't need that. Really? Nah.

You don't think it's one of those that maybe you need to give it a chance outside of an Uber in FDR traffic? I listen to it in the crib. Okay. I turned it on this morning. As soon as it dropped, I was like, oh shit, okay, getting dressed.

Okay. Turning on. And that's how I like to listen. I don't like to really like focus on the music. I like to just let it play, it in the background. Same. Nothing really great.

grabbed me and was like, okay, this is hard. Like, I didn't, it just was like, it's, you know, music. It's like, all right, he's rapping a little bit, got a few bars, but it's not nothing where I'm like, yo, I got to bring that back. I got to hear that again. Like, nothing said bring that back. I liked, the ones that stood out, again,

one listen in between having a flat tire. Sucker free, I loved. Ring, ring, ring's cool. Stop playing with me. Don't you wear, the last three I love. Eight through ten, I think, are great. I have to go back to don't tap the glass. I yeah, this is a cool joint.

Do I think it compares or first listen to like Igor? No, but it's a, or calling him. I'm not even comparing it to his other, his other shit. I listen to it for exactly what it is.

This is what he put out this morning. This is what I'm listening to. I'm not thinking about it with Igor is and all that shit. I'm just listening to a new Tyler music. None of it grabbed me. None of it helped me. I didn't bring back any of the songs.

Like, yo, let me hear that again. Like, it just didn't. It wasn't it for me, man. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe, you know, it might change throughout the week. Yeah. But as of right now, two and a half listens.

Well, also. I'm cool. I don't, I go back to what I was listening to. I was still listening to the clips. Yeah. I mean, I go back to that. Like, I turned, I turned that off and went back to the clips. Like, I just, I don't know.

I just didn't, it didn't really, it didn't really grab me. This project, again, maybe he just wanted, like you said, get these songs out the hard drive, put it out there. Cool visual, I guess, you know, whatever. But I just, to me, it's just, it ain't it. It's fine. I hope how quick he turned it around coming off the last project. I hope he's getting into it. Everyone, I'm not comparing him to Nas to that part of the second half of his career where it's a vibe.

Like, keep putting music out, like quicker. Like, I love that he waits to do these masterpieces, takes three years, tours. Yeah, but everybody ain't. Does everything great. Again, I'm not calling talent. No, no, I get it. I want to make it very fucking clear. No, no, no, but some people don't need to put out music at that volume, though.

I think Tyler, for the type of producer and writer he is, is one of those that I would trust at a high clip to do that. I really do. I was going to come in here and say, is there a single artist in the new generation that you could compare to Tyler? I don't think, even out the big three, they don't, I think all three of them have, you know, maybe better catalogs, which I think could even be argued to some degree.

is anyone like even when when Kanye came out there was still people that we could compare him to as far as like we know Q-tip produce raps like that was a thing for so long and yay i think was like the last probably big a list rapper that we knew was producing and if you say he didn't write some of his stuff mixed back but Tyler's the only one of his generation that is that to me so i think there's like there's like like a different connection when somebody's really producing it as well like you are putting this entire piece together and i looking at his catalog of nine solo joints outside the odd future shit this dysography can be argued in hip-hop history at this point in 2025 yeah no whatever you think about this last project it came out fucking three hours ago we know that about child of though this this is this is a classic dysography which i don't know if his peers have this nine right here. No, we know.

And that's what I said. I fuck with Tyler. Just this last offering, it didn't do nothing for me. And I think Tyler's incredible. Like I've spoken about that for years. I think he's incredible. To some extent, I even think he's underrated to some extent. I hear what you're saying.

But just this don't tap the glass. I just don't, you know, it again, I listened to it. It just didn't, nothing really grabbed me. Nothing really was like, this is incredible. Like, I just didn't, I didn't get that. All right, can I challenge you for Friday that we revisit this? Or maybe next Tuesday. We could do a Friday.

We can revisit it. That's enough days for me to, like, listen to a project. Again, I liked it off the first listen. I'm also of the belief that there's projects I've loved off the first listen. And by the third one, I was like, hey, maybe I just like the hype. No, it happens. So I could come in here on Thursday and say, I don't like it. Yeah.

But, you know, we did also say in the group chat. Like, it just came out. There's not even. No, listen. Don't judge us for any review. I'm just going off of the natural, like when I listen to an album, it's just something that, something grabs me. Something holds my attention.

Something like this one I didn't feel that. I didn't feel that with this project. What I did grasp from this one in probably the last three, four Tyler projects, which may be because I had the wedding on my mind. If Tyler sat down, I would ask him if he ever thinks he'll find love. Oh. It's been four, it's been four fucking albums, bro. That would be the dumbest question you could have asked Tyler created.

Do you ever feel like you would, I think Tyler would answer that in such a fucking, like. Oh, of course, because he's hilarious. But I'm saying if you really pay attention to the themes and writing of the last four projects, he sucks at love, man. I get it. That's what I identify with that shit. Like he, and he does it in a great. way as an artist because there's fun stuff substance stuff there's accountability on stuff there's

shit um what's the like a 15 minute joint on uh call me if you get lost his name after a street why i'm a blankin where everyone thought he was like talking about salons or some shit which was like a complete lie when he fucked his man's girl oh uh wilshire there was accountability on that of how like shitty he was but not caring that would be my first question to tell his creator he's awesome like the last four albums have had a theme of the love below of like this is never going to work out for me yeah and knowing how vulnerable Tyler has been even when it's got him in trouble but not really sells out arenas nothing's changed this guy sucks at love I mean but I'm not judging him because I was just in the stripper row at the wedding like this isn't a attack at

his character it's more of an identity thing I can't think of an artist where the last four projects all have been like, it's not going to work out. Usually they'll even lie and say there's like some redemption. Like they'll get it in a situation ship and be like, this is the one. And make an album about it. He has failed four albums straight with just trying to find a fucking girlfriend. I mean, maybe he needs a boyfriend.

Nobody's talked about that too. So that's something. Maybe he just don't, he's confused. He don't know what he wants. And Sari, which was on the deluxe of Callman Gets Lost, which was like one of my favorite records of that year. He said he apologized to all the girls that he was lying to, that he was bisexual and fucking dudes. And then apologize to the guys for misleading them. Like, I'm just gay to fuck.

I wasn't trying to date you. Oh, so that's, they don't know what he wants. Oh, no, that's the theme too. Yeah, he don't know what he wants, man. He got to be real and honest with himself first before he's talking about finding love. Like, he don't even know where to look for love at. but then even if you look at like the deluxe of call me get lost the record heaven when they flip the

John Legend shit the whole second verse is just like dying to be 40 years old and married with kids yeah and like setting his mom up in the house and all that like he's actively talking about that but then only talks about how he fucks up every relationship yeah he I think he's just you know I mean he'll find it one day I just don't think right now Tyler is honest with his with his self um personally I don't know.

Musically, I think he's tapped in there. But maybe personally he just still, you know, he does. He's still finding himself and figuring out what he really likes. Yeah, I wish he would come on the pod. I would talk about everything but music and piss off his whole core. I was just like, want to talk about personal things. I would corner him worse than old boy did. Yeah.

No, that was crazy. That was, that was, I still can't believe that was real. We glossed over that too quick. Yeah, I still can't believe that. That came and went and it shouldn't know. That was absolutely crazy. I still think that was a skit. I don't think that was real.

I don't know, man. I thought it was a skit for a while. The more people I talked to, it wasn't, like at all. Yeah. Are they still cool? I think. I don't know, but. I don't like follow his getty images to see who he walks out of the club with.

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Respectfully. I was going to say, it's just not for you. It's just not for me. And that's okay. What do you think the title means of the album? Don't tap the glass. You usually see that when there's animals

that you don't want to agitate you know, that type of thing. So maybe, maybe this isn't, maybe he has a sea world appearance coming up. You know, all right. That's hilarious. Maybe he has a seaworld. I don't know.

He can't tap the glass. You don't want to disturb orca. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know if I I've, again, my white face should be the one. I think it's a brilliant title. And I almost don't want to give my opinion because if I'm wrong, boy, is that going to be awkward?

No, what was your opinion, please? I think. Let's hear it. I think based off it again, first listen, maybe he explains it more, and I just didn't catch everything. Just off the title alone, based off, you know,

some of his recent comments about the Ian guy. Yeah, I think Tyler realizes that how big hip-hop has become. There's a lot of people that aren't culture vultures per se, but they're just passing visitors and have had a higher opinion than they've ever had before. And they're viewing it. The way I used to talk about the wire, how white people love the wire,

because it feels like they could see the hood in a safe place. And white people are obsessed with the wire. I think, obviously, it goes without saying that's happened with hip-hop and how much it's grown. So, telling you, y'all view us. Like, this entertainment shit is a zoo. Like, we are just dancing for you. So don't tap the glass.

Just watch. Shut the fuck up. Pay your fee. Okay. And watch. All right. If you view it this way, do not even really just pay your fee. I see it.

Do not tap. Don't, you're treating us like animals. It's like it. Like, you just sitting there going like this and, you know, I'm not even in your habitat. Like, but boy, I hope I'm fucking wrong. Or right, because if I'm wrong, it's going to be weird. No, I mean, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that, you know, you're seeing it that way.

That makes sense. I don't know if Tyler is, you know, if he thought that deep into it. Again, it just sparked, and I'm not saying solely this is like an Ian disc because I don't even like listen to Ian or know about him. But that was the first time I heard Tyler speak up about that topic specifically and put a name on it. So, yeah, I feel like Tyler's very intentional with his words and interviews. And what he said about Ian to me, don't tap the glass sparked in my head right away. Like this guy over here cosplaying Gucci and Future and wearing fucking khakis in a polo.

Like that shit from Future and Gucci sounds that way because of pain. That's not like the shit you're doing in your voice that's, you don't understand what that comes from. Yeah, okay. I see it. This ain't you. I see it. Like it's fine with people that are influenced as long as they're authentic to themselves. Right.

But this ain't, you don't even talk that way. I can see it. Definitely I'm mad at that. Yeah. All right. Well, I'll give it a couple more. listen, since you love it. And I think that I'll taste levels, I think that I'll taste levels align on a lot of things. So the fact that I'm on the other side of the love, I'll give it

a couple more. I know what the fans are going to accuse you of. I do believe you, because I don't think you lie about music opinions, but I know the comment's going to be like, Mall hates this because Brown and clips were in the video. I know, I just know the internet. I just know what I'm saying it's true. I just sat and said, I love the clips album. We know, the internet. We know. You know, you know. Okay. See, you don't. Okay. See, you don't. Because you don't tap the glass enough. You don't realize that this is all dedicated to Drake and because Tyler was at the pop out, they all got in a group chat and then LeBron went into the video. And then the clips, obviously we know their relationship for years with Tyler. And Tyler just

became a clips fan. Okay. Because he hates Drake. And this album is coded. Coded in honestly never mind. See yeah. See you don't even. Don't tap the glass. You don't tap the glass more. And then Iceman is coming. The ice and glass. I see where it's going. Tyler just want to be ice man. I see where it's going. I get it.

Because Tyler's never been original. Yeah. He's always trying to be somebody else. I get it now. I get it. Okay. They won't even catch that sarcasm. I'm they're about to clip you and put that as a fucking clip.

Oh, God. Yeah, they'll miss the last 20 minutes and just clip that part of me. Yeah, yeah. You know how that go. And I'll be the Tyler hater. But I don't know. I mean, I like that video. And back to me.

my app idea of, hey, what would you do in this situation? If LeBron James and the Clips and Mav wanted to be in my video, I'd say yes. Did I think it's odd sometimes of just like somebody sitting there like this on a green screen? Sure. But I'd never say no if LeBron James wanted to be in my video. As you should, you should, we should welcome LeBron to your video. I don't think, I really don't think that had anything to do with Drake whatsoever. Pete said, mm. Okay, the clips thing, obviously not. But What would Tyler have against Drake? He was at the pop-out.

Okay, but... I saw Bro went to pop-out with them but been Dick Rodden Gangson's headlines. I thought that was more about, like, DeMar and Braun. I mean, Tyler, too. Tyler's been an open Drake fan, but the LeBron thing I understood

because they were friends, like friends, for real. Are Tyler and Drake that close? Did he owe him anything in that situation? No, I don't think he did, but, you know, he was at the pop-out. Oh, I don't think Drake likes anyone that went there. I just don't think Tyler is going out of his way. Drake don't like the niggas that work the concessions thing.

He got all the day. The union workers. Oh, he got all of the IDs. He knows everybody that sold popcorn there that night. Fuck all yeah. That's hilarious. The only thing I found weird was forget Drake out of that. Anytime Tyler has freestyled, even in the verse he has with game,

all he's done is dis LeBron James hairline for the last 20 years. anytime he's asked to rap. If I'm brown, I'm gonna fuck the Drake shit. I'm not going, like, we have to have a hairline conversation, sir. Yeah. I don't know. I gotta watch the video again, though,

to see if there's any little, you know. What did I miss? Sorry. The newspapers flying around, headlines in the newspaper. Ah, okay. Oh, all right, see, I'm wrong. I didn't think that headlines shit was about Tyler,

but when the headlines come out, 23, 14? Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Maybe 13. Okay. Either way, you know. Okay.

Actually, I thought it was about Braun, but him and Braun had been friends was before that. That was like, the, was the joint with Kanye, Wayne, Eminem, and Drake. That was for Braun's movie.

Yeah, they've been friends for a while. Maybe it was about Tyler. And, yeah, the newspapers. Okay, I take it back. Headlines was, I'll take care, right? Yeah. 2012. Okay.

Then, all right, yeah, maybe it was. I don't know. I'm just talking shit. Yeah, we just made, no,

but obviously, usually I think all that deep dive shit with certain stuff like that, but the newspaper, I mean, that does make sense now that you bring up

the headline shit. Yeah, I get it. I'm just talking shit, man, I don't know. Look at a startup narratives. I love that.

Everybody else, dude? We did a narrative cast. No, we just, the cast. We just, that's it,

everybody else start up narratives and shit, When we stir up narratives, they tend to grow legs and start twerking. I mean, I'm just talking shit. I don't think that Tyler was throwing any shots at Drake. I don't think so. I don't care, be honest.

Yeah, and I also don't really care. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clipper Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

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Where you have to decide some things here. One can stay and one has to be going forever. It was written, Nause or the War Report component. Going forever? One has to go forever. Can only keep one. No, we can't do that. Go to the next one.

That whole question has to be going forever. We're not doing that. He's tripping. Yeah, one got to be. It was written was a part of the reason why I even started rapping. Nause is my favorite rapper ever. So I would have to go with that just based on the fact that I wouldn't even be on his couch without El Madigan. It was written.

Right. That ass. Like when I first said it was written, I pulled over my car. Like, what is this shit? Yeah. I heard the message. I was like, what the fuck is this shit? Yeah.

I pulled over. I was driving down Jamaica Avenue at night going to my crib. I pulled over. It was like, this shit is amazing. Yeah. So that's the impact that music had on me. And it made me want to keep to pursue rapping in a real way. I was going to school to be like a doctor.

there's some shit China about my mother proud. And then I started getting into this hip hop gang's and shit and I was like, all right, this is for me. It was written, ruin your life. Ruined me.

Sorry, mom. Well, I guess the answer is peace Capone and Nori, so. No, we can't do that though. No, we need Capone andori here too. I feel like the war report could get you in some more trouble

than it was written. Yeah, but that's so classic. Yeah. But it's just that had an impact on me too. Yeah. Just not like what Nause did. But no, we need both of those. Can't do that.

Yeah, we definitely need both of those. though can't do that yeah these questions just take his phone away fast ma'all move quick swift your next single and again keep keep in mind that time does not really exist in this whole theory of this or that all right this has to be your next single prodigy keep it thorough or simon says faramash mm that's a good one damn well see prodigy is in my top five which i do have a top six because prodigies in there keep it throw is one of my favorite records ever and fucking that fairon shit is retarded those are two your next single i'm gonna have to go with uh prodig to keep it thorough i'm a queen's nigga that's just that's just that's just yeah so it's power that's probably

way so yeah that's rough that's rough 30 game but i i'll go with keep it thorough is your next thing that's my that's my favorite that's one of my favorite records i wrapped on a beat 90 billion times i think every rapper has probably rapped on that that's one of my favorite records ever you so you're doing this unfair shit man i mean this man has to be sweet so this is queen so this is queen's so this is queen's This man has to be stopped. Yeah. I think I'm going to go with Simon Says, though, because I feel like Fairmont is probably still eating off sinks with

Simon Says is so crazy. That should be in commercials. Diamond Says is so nuts. I'm taking the back end royalties on Simon Says. Get the fuck up. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. But I'm just going off like, I ain't going to lie. Keep It Throw was one of my favorite records ever.

Yeah. It's probably. Simon Says up there, too, don't get a confused. It's top five Alchemist B2. Yes. Yeah. It's like one of my favorite records ever, bro. Yeah.

When I first heard that shit, I was like, my nika what does he be thinking about what do you smoke when you i was so one of my dope a sip by moments not to throw you off your shit one of my dope as simple as it sounds i did a freestyle on um what's it i think it was held on earth no no or was it uh shook ones one of them one of them classic mob deep beats i did a long freestyle on the shit and i was like yo i call pee i just want you to make a uh a cameo in the video i was just shooting a freestyle video doloh he's like i had bad where you at i was in a park in queen's He pulled up Dolo and was just me and him on a park bench, just chilling in the scene of a video.

I thought that was the most amazing shit ever. I was like, it's me and prodigy on a park bench in Queens in the hood. It don't get more queen than that. Like if I got a bear or some shit, I was like, this is amazing. I have a great life. Yeah, yeah. Imagine you just mind your business going to the park, play ball or whatever. And me and prodigy just chilling.

Prodigy and grass. Like, bro, it was, I'm like, I'm just looking at him like, yeah, you really, yeah, you dolo. We just both dolo on the fucking park bench and queens. If you was ever blessed to just meet him and kick it with him, that's him all the way. I'm telling you, he pulled up Dolo. We literally Dolo on a park bench in the hood in Queens. Just one cameraman is too dark to even get the right amount of light in. It's fucking amazing.

Like, life is great. Did you read his book? Nah, but I need to. You read it? Yeah, I read it. And I would actually suggest doing the audio book because P is, it's his voice. So, yeah, it just makes the shit way better. But in the book, I might have to check that out.

It's one of the best reads ever. That's amazing. I did not even know this. But it's funny you bring that up because in the book, there's like a whole chapter of just having, like, begging Pete to stop hanging out in the hood. Like, word? Stop it. Like, though, you go there every day. We have money.

Stop leaving our crib in Long Island to go to Queensbridge. Like, bro, he pulled, I was in the hood. He pulled love. He was at. I was told him why I was that. He pulled a lot. We put a hood on a park bench. That's, park bench with Pete.

I'm like, come on my nigga. That's crazy. That was amazing. But I mean, his whole family's Queen's royalty. Yeah. But I just enjoyed that moment so much. I was like, wow. I should be released.

That's fire. That's cool. Yeah. Word. Make an album produced by Havoc or Q-Tip. So yeah, yeah, yeah, picking my faves again. This is hard. This is, this is crazy shit.

I got to go with half because of influence. But Q-Tip is going to give me the bag. But toes have, though. But for what I became and my influences is going to be half. for that. All right. I had another stipulation of this. They also can feature as rappers on this joint project.

Q-Tick-Mohan tape me around the world with this. Yeah. This guy's not fair. He has to be stopped, Ma'all. He has to be stopped. Yeah, Q-Tigmo will have you in the day party in the Ibiza. In Ibiza. Yeah.

It's like, shit. Half might too, though. Don't get it twisted. He might find one. Nah, I may. Fuck you, you haven't thrown on. You'd be like, yo, what is this? No, I made records would have.

Half is on the project that I did with a, with, I had released a, a, a, uh, a collaborative project with Benny, B.SF and my company, TeamBang, Dope Gang, stop, calling art content. Half is on that joint and half is on the last project I got dropped. He produced a record on there. So I already know what I'm going to get from Have. It's going to be great. I never worked with Q-Tib before.

But I know I'm probably going to be on the coast of Spain somewhere. He's on these records. And the album may never come out because Q-Tib is going to work on it for the next 30 years. But when it does, though. Have will bounce some shit and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. But based on, as my influences, it's probably going to be half if I keep it above. Yeah.

Word. You can put a verse on DJ Clue, the professional album, or Who Kid, 50 Cent as the Future. That's a good one, too. Damn. Hmm. What was the question? Graph can put a verse on the professional, DJ Clue's first actual album. Mm-hmm.

Or Who Kid 50 Centes of the Future? There's a graph feature on one of them. It's got to be thinking. I would have never thought of them shit like that. Mm. Oh, shitballs. That's a tough one too. Professional was the Rockefeller project, right?

Yeah. That's just like 30 times platinum now, I think. I might just go with that just so I could just continue this Rockefeller shit that I got going on. Yeah, it ties in. Yeah, it just ties in. But, okay, that's the whole, that's my side of Queens too. That's the whole. Yeah.

That's Shadyville all the way to south side. It's the whole shit. That's the whole side. North and south. Yeah. Jesus. You twisted my arm here, buddy. But I'll probably go with the clue because of what the fuck I created that.

That's the only reason. Yeah, because Wookit is... Shout to Wootke. Yeah, shout out to Wookieke. I just seen a nigga recently, too. It's the start of your career. You can sign a Steve Stout or Irv Gotti. Shout out to Irv, man.

Rest of the piece of my nigga, Irv. Absolutely. I did three records of Irv in my career, man. Shout out to Irv. Word. I never worked to Steve Stout before. That's nice shit. And I mean, probably the best brand partnership.

Yeah, I'm going to have Coca-Cola behind me. I'm going to have Pepsi. I'm going to have the brand partnership is going to be out of the ass. The whole half of ring camera. Word, like, I'm going to get, like, this mic going to be sponsored by it. I already knows that with Steve's doubt. Damn, I might have to go with Steve for that shit that I haven't even tapped into yet career-wise. And I never had an opportunity to work with Steve before.

I worked with my nigger. I work to Earth. So I already know I'm going to get bangers. Irv is amazing the way you work. I learned a lot from Irv, too, in a little bit of time I worked to him. That ass. So I've experienced that.

So I'm going to go with Steve because I never tap into that side of shit. That makes sense. Yeah. This is a random question just for the room in particular. Again, remember, time does not exist in this whole world. Would you rather see 50 cent signed to death row in 1996, but like 25-year-old 50?

Like right when it's about-old. In 96? With Pock and all that Woo Back 50 signed to death row 96 Or Nikki Signs to Murder Inc. in 2001

Oh shit Nah we'll go with the 50 With that one Nikki on Murder Inc? You got if Nikki Minaj And Jarl Ruh was To have some records

Ashanti Like yo Nikki In 01 Because they were making More softer records She was still doing Hard shit then But I mean

I mean I can see what But they were singles were that way, but they were still. They were still making a hard shit, too. Oh, me think. But you put in 50, 50 already came out with the West Coast shit. He already came out with that type of energy, to be honest. That's a part of his legacy, too.

For sure. He already went with that way. But less chaos. With him with Pac, actually, like, with Pac. Yeah, I don't know. With the mentality had. I don't think we've ever seen. He'd have ever seen no shit like that.

He'd probably brought Pac to the hood. Yeah, of course. What? I mean, shit. The park was in Queens all the time with stretch. Yeah. Pock would have brought 50 to Queens. You never been over here?

I live here. I just think the mayhem that would insub. Imagine 50 cent and shook. That would have been nuts. See it. That would have been crazy. That would have been crazy. With his mentality then, they would have been, they would have been,

the industry would have been fucked up. Nicky would have murdered ink. I know how that thought on my life. Did she even have a record with them? Ashanti and all that. Nah, right? No. She came way. I didn't even have to go to my life.

I'm just thinking of Nikki. I think that would, there'd be a whole different story to murder ink in the June, like, 50's not getting murder ink clean out of here that easy if you have Nikki carrying the flag in the midst of that entire thing. True. But then Nikki, we didn't make different records. I'm trying to, I'm trying to think.

Yeah, because Irving them had Ashanti, have Jabrull. I'm like, I'm trying to picture it in my head now. I don't know I can't even I'm thinking about the records they made and then put Nikki on it and I'm like I don't know if I wanted to hear that

Yeah I don't know what you think I would want to I could hear 50 in Pock though Oh yeah definitely Because the alignment is there Yeah But I just I think that

Nicky with Irv And that would have been crazy Because then Nick Irv would have catered to Nicky So maybe they would have created some shit That I can't even imagine Keep it running Yeah I'm just going off what exists already

Yeah. You think about the energy with Pock and 50. That's what I'm thinking about. The energy that they would have brought. Pock 50 and Shill would have been some other shit. The industry would have been fucked up like, lock the doors. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But I'm trying to think about what sound they would have created that murder ink with Nikki. I don't know. I guess I can't imagine it clearly. I mean, I feel like even a lot of the young money sound. It would have been a different sound. It would have been a different. It would have been because the young money sound and the Irv sound is different.

The regular thing popped with. But I don't think because it's. She would have been a different artist by now, I think. It would have been something else. I don't even think Young Money sounds the same way without murder ink, though. Of course, it's completely different sounds, but that melodic shit, the Drake, Nikki, and Wayne all did was the proof came from Irving John. Yeah, true.

Like, you could have hard raps on a lot of shit. I feel like everybody got that formula, including 50 from Urban Jai. They invented that shit. Jai was doing the quick four bar bridges. John was the first artist I've been seen that was doing bridges in the middle of his verses and shit like that. I was like, what the fuck is this? He was doing quick four bar bridges in the beginning and the middle. he was like he had vamp hours it was like structured like rn b records but because of him and irv yeah so

niki would have all those elements too yeah that's a good question shipballs i don't know i think i think artists for just for the art of it and the music i would want to hear nicky yeah yeah i guess so that'd have been something so we can go with nicky with that yeah yeah because i would have be she would have been yeah it would have been some whole other shit that i can't even imagine so bet all right fuck it i'll take nicky yeah we'll do that mall has had this segment came up with uh Same night, same city. I don't know if you had some in mind. I have a few written down for your same night, same city segment.

Essentially, this is these shows are happening, the exact same night in the exact same city, and you have to choose which one that you would go to. But me, no graph, somehow he would make it to both. Somehow this guy would be at both of the shows, and he'd be like, yo, how? How was this happening? Okay, then I'll rework this one to who do you think's going to have a better show? Same night, same city. All right.

Queensbridge Reunion Show or a Southside reunion show. Oh, on, man. What's wrong with this guy? What are we doing, Maul? How are we going to stop him? That's tough. That's tough. Oh, man.

I mean, me, my first, my knee-jerk answer is Queensbridge. Yeah, right? Because you got Nize, you got. That's going to be crazy. Mega. Marley Mar, Shan. Yeah. You still get CNN.

I'm going, Queensbridge. Stook at CNN. The Southside show is 50. You got Lost Boys. You got... Onyx. Onix. Shit, I'm gonna be there.

Fuck. Yeah. Chee code. I was like, because I'm gonna be in that motherfucker like. You know what I mean? You would be at both. You would find a way.

Both shows will start at 9 p.m. sharp. Graph is going to be at both shows. And performing at both. And performing at both. And performing. How did he get here? I just saw him with Southside. Yeah, but not me.

20 minute drive. I'm going to do it. skirt me being you know which one would you rather do security yet oh man give me they both gonna be wow low they both will be wow but that's that's that's i'm probably going to be wild at all i would think yeah queen's bris is a little because i feel like as as a as head of security i feel like i could get the nigh i'm like yo come on man like calm the fellas down the south side the south side show you're not getting to nobody to my calm are we all forgetting when all of queensbridge went to central park and ruined that nod shut shut central park down yeah but that's because somebody

and then get the nons first to be like, yo, fam, come on. Talk to the guys, man. That's a good question, though. I'm going to have to be biased. I'm going to Southside show, man. That's just me being biased, though, keep it on it. Okay. Because I want to see both.

And I'm going to make it to both. I'm going to make it to both. That's the fact. I got to join out right now with Buster. It's called Jules. Shout out to Buster. We make some high energy. Legend.

Fucking drill, UK. Sounds like some UK, Jamaican drill. Should we just invented some shit that doesn't exist? And it's out now. And we shoot in the video Friday. Yeah, I'm gonna get that. You know what I'm saying? Bust is like legit.

My big brother, man. I know Bust is I was like 17, 18 years old, man. When I first met Bust, I don't know nothing about the fucking industry is fresh out the hood. And I started to work with him. I actually, damn man, dropped out of college to tour with him and work with him.

And we ended up having a fucking fist fight back then. You were Buster? Yeah, I was like 18, 19 years old. I popped through the studio. And like, without telling him, he was talking to me crazy. I was like, step about. outside, fuck it. And he stepped outside. We got it on.

Wait, wait, wait. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold it. Hold on. Too quick of a story. It's really happened. Right, right. You got mad at something Buster said. Yeah. I got mad at what he was talking to me. Because he popped up. He got mad that it. Oh, you just popped up at his session. Yeah. But he said, because I didn't understand the industry rules and all that. Got it. Got it. He said you can call me whenever. I like, I don't know nothing about nothing. Yeah. He said you can call me whenever. I like, I didn't pick up. I was like, I ain't pick up. I'm just going to show up. And he was like, what are you doing here? I was like, well, nigga you said I could pull up he's like yeah but I didn't pick up I said that's why I

showed up and he was like if I didn't pick up that means okay not today yeah yeah and I didn't understand that I'm like yeah yeah yeah you ain't pick up so I showed up okay I get that yeah because I didn't understand this industry shit at all yeah straight in the hood I don't know nothing around nothing he was talking to me away I ain't like it and I said um fucker let's step outside and he's like I right and he went outside and it things where I left I swung he swung I tried to stab with a knife all this crazy shit it was crazy Wait, wait, wait, hold on. He broke a bottle.

Wait. He broke a bottle. You're trying to stab busting around. And he broke a bottle. And the song is available now. The sickest nigga ever. He said, yeah, I try to stab bust. A song available now.

Right now. I flick the knife. He broke a bottle. It was like a Jamaican fucking website story. Shit went left. Jamaican website story. Shit went left. Yo, Graf is the most random.

Man, I'm telling you, yo. I'm telling you. I'm my big brother now. Where was the studio? This was in the city. This was like, was it soundtracks? One of the fucking studios. All right.

So y'all walked out to a Manhattan block. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right outside. Yeah. Let's get it on. Okay. First he came back this. First he came back, he shot, he shot to talk me off the left.

He was talking sensibly to me. I didn't, I couldn't register. But you young and. I was his young interview. I couldn't understand. He's like, yo, he said, the first thing he said was, you came in here with some street shit. I'm trying to teach you some business shit. Right.

And for some reason that sounded offensive to me. I was like, fuck, you can't teach me shit. That's young, yeah. He was like, I was just young ignorant. Like, nigga, you came in with a street shit. I'm trying to teach you how to be a business man. You coming with the wrong energy. And for some reason, I kept taking it, like just hearing it wrong.

Yeah. It just sounded offensive. I'm like, fuck, you can't teach me nothing. Yeah. Let's go outside. He was like, I was going outside. Yeah. So we just went there.

Once we're outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was a square up or how did the physical altercation? It was like a square up. It was a square up. Or does somebody just stalling someone first? I think I pushed him first and he swung. Then he swung.

And then when he swung... See, you're going too fast. Did any of those land? Were the first two? But each other for real. Okay. And when he swung, I kind of like ducted and slipped. He thought he caught me.

And then I got mad because he thought he caught me. Then I hurt the knife. Yeah, we don't talk about that. We don't talk about somebody feel like they caught you and dropped you. You like, yo, you ain't dropped. That's a whole other fight. He was, like, Nick, you ain't catch me. I said, nah, I don't got to this knife.

It's time to go to the knife. He's like, you got a knife If you broke a bottle, it was like, I know how it didn't go left after that. Nobody died. He's sitting here, we made a song, we're alive. No, the song's available now. We live, we live, we live through this.

We made it talk about it. So once the bottle is broken and the knife is out, how did this situation diffuse? I don't remember that part. I just know nobody got stabbed, which is great. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm so glad Graff and Buster didn't stab each other up on a Manhattan block.

Me too. Life works out. And something tells me, Buster called you the next day, and forgot any of that even happened. No, no, no. We used to speak for years after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was like, he wanted to sign me,

and he was like, just niggas of liability. You had, you got a lot of, yeah, yeah. But that's how fast shit happens. But I'm learning, see? I went from that to, like, realizing certain battles I don't need to be in

because I don't got this self-controls her, yeah, yeah. I choose my battles wisely now. Yeah, I get it. In bus team, like, yeah, no, we want to sign graph. He tried to stab it. When he tells the story and be like,

this nigga back the night for me, I'm like, nigga, you broke a bottle too. Yeah. He broke a bottle after this. I got to stab. I pulled out of a knife and he was like, oh, shit. That nigga ran for you. Yeah, but what's like?

And what's like? I mean, you're trying to stab me back. And I'm like, only Buster could break a bottle perfectly and it perfectly. Perfect amount of spikes. You ever tried that? You ever tried to break the whole shit break. Like, I don't have nothing to stab nobody with. How do you break it so perfectly?

It's like it's a point. He's making it worked out. Yo, that is fucking song available now. Song available now. Video shoot this Friday. That's a fact. You listen, man, life is wonderful. Life is wonderful.

Life is beautiful. I guess we have to ask the same question we ask everyone that has a relationship with Buster. Where do you rate him in the top five dappers of all time? Buster shake your hand. He'll break your fucking hand, shoulder, elbow. Yeah, Buster give you that real. With the mad diamond ring. Yeah, you got to be prepared to shake Buster hand.

Buster actually ain't my top five. I mean, I need to have a top seven because I got a lot of my cadence and flows in the delivery from bus. The way I construct records, a lot of that shit came from Buzz. I took a lot of what I do from the way he constructs records, a lot of it. Word. Well, you said Prodigy was in your top six. So I made it. That's top seven. What was the one through seven? Because it's, it's, I got Nas, J. Royce, M., Jadikis, Prodigy, and Buster. Only niggas is in it. So my top five is a top seven. That's a very interesting top seven word. And most things don't got Royce in their top five. Royce is my top five. I didn't think is fucking amazing. I got Royce and. I got Royce and. I got Royce and

am in my top. All the people influenced what I do. I could see now that you name that I could kind of see. You could see all of my flow. Yeah. All the niggas is put them in a pot

and on low sim and it's like bam this is graph is that. I can hear it. All their influences is in the music. I can hear that. Prodigy lines are quoted in my songs to current day. You could play anyone and be like,

oh, there's a potterine line. All in the music. Current day still. Prodigy's just the guy. He was that guy. Absolutely. When's last time you talked to Shial La Buff right before we get out of here?

A couple months ago. Yeah. How's he doing? I don't know. I love that guy though. No, I swear to him a couple months ago. I don't know how he's going though. I love that guy. He went to smoke. What I think is about it. He's with it. He raps till you get busy. Oh no, we know. We've seen the viral clip.

We've heard it. We've heard it. As a matter of fact, did you hear this song I did call 36 Chambers? I don't know. I called him to do the treatment. He wrote a crazy treatment for that record. I was like, that's how ran in my mind. I was like, what would this video do like a Shail LeBuff directed it? Yeah. And he wrote a crazy treatment. He had a crazy. He was just too busy to do it. Nuts. He's nuts. He's nuts.

He typed it aloud to him. He's like, Graf, almost stab Buster rhymes, and he has a treatment for a song from Shia Labuff. This nigga is the most random dude, but most necessary dude in New York City. I'm telling you.

Graff, thank you for coming through my brother. This is long overdue. Long overdue. Always good to see you, my guy. Song, juice. What is it? Juice, yeah. Juice available now.

Future in Buster rhymes and Buster's kidney that. I think you guys should just reenact that scene for the video. You want me to write the treatment? You just told us the treatment for what the video should be. You'll step outside. That's what I would start.

Step outside. You could do that. I didn't have to think about that. And then I was breaking random shit in the street to fight with a graph. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me.

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He said he had a lip blister, like a sun blister, when they went out on a date. And she was just like, no, I'm cool. Got some shit on your lip. That shit on your lip, got some shit on his lip. That shit on your lip got some shit on your lips Damn, that's, yo, you're talking about bad time And you got a date with Rihanna

And then you get a fucking blister Oh, I'm killing a grandparent Something's happening for me to push that date Somebody's dying in my story You gotta cut the lip Cut the blister off the lip Cut the blister off the lip You gotta put a lighter to a knife

And cut the blister off the lip, bro. You got to Just go to mandate, you gotta go But that's like some bold shit. And even people have had lip-blissers. Doesn't mean it's herpes, it's like anything like that. But to go on a date with that shit on your lip is the boldest thing I've ever seen. Imagine sitting across from somebody like, oh, before we talk, you have something on your lip. Like, can we just dress this?

Before we talk. Yeah. Before this starts working out and we get to know each other. Like what is, what's going on there? I think it's a fair question to ask somebody on a date. Yeah, but not. Rihanna? Nah, dog.

You had to cancel. You got to cancel. There's no way you can let Rihanna see you like that. I'm canceling. That's crazy. I might fake kill my own mother in that story. But the bigger, hold on, but before we get to the shit on your lip, Matt, I wasn't familiar with his game. How did he even get to the point where he had a date with Rihanna?

Let's not act like Matt Liner is not Matt Liner. And if this was especially... Listen, Matt Liner. See? Can you guys tell me? Perfect. I'm a girl and I'm like... But that's perfect though.

He was one of the most eligible bachelor's from USC at one time in all of Los Angeles. Okay. Yeah, he was a big deal. Okay. Hose was moving Reggie Bush out the way to get to him.

Okay. What does he look like? Josh, can you pull him up, please? Gorgeous, man. He is a unit too. He's not quite Brady unit, but... No, don't act like you ain't think number 11 was getting a hose.

I don't know. man was out there in the U.S. He was in U.S. taking them down for show. For sure. And got that contract. Because, I mean, that was probably around the time Rihanna came out, right? That was like, 0, oh, 2, 3. Early 2000s for sure, yeah.

Yeah, you don't think porn the replay is not going on a date with that line with. That's just crazy. Now I'm saying. That type of fumble is legend. That's the biggest fumble in history right there that might be. that might be the biggest fumble in history. I mean, because you had a blister on your lip? Like, oh my, it can't be any.

It doesn't get worse than that. And you know Rihanna said something immediately. That's so big of a fumble. If he said that, like, in conversation, like right here, I wouldn't even believe him. I'm like, imagine saying anything, honestly. That's how big that fumble was like, that did not happen. The universe doesn't hate you that much. Like, the day you have a date with Rihanna, you wake up in a suburb.

blister on your lip? Wow. Is there, I mean, do they have like lip makeup or something? There's nothing. You just can't go, bro. You can't go. You got to just fumble.

Just hope that it's dimly lit and she won't see it. But do you tell Rihanna? Why you got to cancel? Nah. You make up something. Yeah, just like, kill a family number. You got a cold.

You got a bad cold. You got a bad cold. That ain't going to cancel the day with Rihanna over no bad cold. I'm going to show up coughing. Sneathing out the table. Yeah, I'm showing up coughing. headache, all of that. I'm not canceling a date with Rihanna because I got a cold.

I'm a fucking football player. Are you kidding me? Like a cold? A stomach virus? I'd rather Rihanna think I was shitting on myself than I had a piece. You heard what silly said nothing but death could keep me from it. Yeah. The only way I'm from I died. That's the only reason I didn't go on the date with Rihanna. I'm dead. I woke up dead. You can't wake up dead. I woke up dead. I'm not canceling no date with Rihanna. You couldn't need for a cold? Fuck no. Bump on your lip. It's because there's no, what are we going to do? We can't not talk about this bump on your lip. And then what do you tell Rihanna?

Like, yo, I was kissing some girl last night. Shit got crazy. Because that bump on your lip shit, we don't talk about that. Like, what is that? Mall. I'm just saying, I've never had that. Mall. All right, no, my mind.

Thank you. You bitch your tongue. You a pussy. I bit the shit out of my tongue in my sleep. My shit still hurt. And you sleep? I don't like, you know, just one. One of those things you just jump in your sleep, I bit the shit out.

My tongue's still numb on the left side. Did it bleed? Hell yeah. I tasted that shit. I didn't get up, though. It woke me up by my sleep and I was like, fuck it. I just went back to sleep. Throbbing, tongue.

Tongues. It felt like I had a pulse, a heartbeat in my tongue. You ever about to eat some pussy and have to ask a girl, that's an ingrown, right? Yo, what's up, man? I'm the only one, right? Everyone quiet, like, yeah. I'm the only one. What you're going through, man?

You're all right? I'm the only one, right? I know you ain't asked her that. Y'all lying like shit. Because I know you ain't asked her that. He just put his thumb on it and just kept licking. I just won't lick in that area. You just put a-covering for yourself is insane.

You know his thumb on it. You nasty-ass white boy, he just put your thumb on it and kept licking. Listen, man. No blitzers on the lip. Woke up good. Woke up good. I'm still good. Hey, Matt, that's the biggest fumble in the history, though.

And he might have a big in-game fumble, but it still was, this is the biggest fumble ever. This is crazy. I had a bump on my lips, so I couldn't go on a date with Rihanna. Nobody's going to believe that. You know what will piss me off about being famous is like, niggas getting on podcasts and talking about the fact that they had a chance with me when I was fucking a teenager. Like, you know when I was a teenager. That would really piss me off.

Like, why? Because I don't, like, why? Why are you bringing up? I'm like, I'm damn near married now. I got two kids. Like, what, why? But if somebody asks, all right, but if somebody ask, you, yo, what's the biggest fumble in your life? You could have left my name out.

You could have left my name out. You could have said. Yeah, but if I leave the name, that ain't the biggest fumble. One of the biggest. When you say the name, that's the fumble. Like, who you phone? Yo, it's. I don't blame him.

He didn't do anything. Huge artists. Like, at the time, you know, we were talking. She wanted to go on a date. She's a huge artist. Like, that don't land the same. When you say, yo, Rihanna wasn't going to date, niggas is like, what? You fumble, that's the fumble.

Rihanna. I get it. I'm not, he didn't do anything wrong. I'm not saying he, you know, he did anything wrong. I'm just like, bro, that would annoy the fuck out of me about being famous. Oh, well, yeah. Because I don't even want nobody knowing that you had my phone, like, chill. But why don't?

Matt ain't no. Even still, like, just sometimes, like women, we just look back like, oh, what was I doing? Like, it doesn't, you're saying Matt ain't, no, that doesn't matter. It's just sometimes you just don't want to be reminded of who to, fuck you then gave your phone number to her who you was about to go out. I'm sure Rihanna's probably hitting her group chat. Like, finally I can talk about this publicly because you know she told all her friends. That's probably been a running joke for the last 15 years.

Yeah, that is crazy. Bumpy Johnson. He has a nickname. Oh, my God. You and Rihanna's group chat is Bumpy Johnson? Oh, just kill yourself, Matt. Damn. Yo, the shit we name niggas in our group chats, man.

Big jeans. Big, oh, baggy condom. Cargo condom. Nah, cargo condom is craziness. Niggas be trying to wear magnets. I know the man just say that as a joke. That's about somebody specific, for sure.

Cargo condom is crazy. That is the craziest shit. Cargo condom? This one nigga used to insist on wearing fucking magnums and couldn't fit them. His dick was in a sleeping bag. Yo, that is. Oh my God, bro. You know, I got secondhand embarrassment for this person.

I don't even know what it is. Being cargo condom in a girl's farm. I'd rather just die. Like, honestly. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes death is just like. I really just probably rather die. Because that's not, and that's just put a lifestyle on.

Like, why you want to, oh, I got the Magnum. You don't need that. It's mad room in there. It's mad room. It's a mad room in there. A whole other dick cuff it in there. What you do? You could say it.

What you're doing? Shoot me. Shoot me now. What? Damn, dog. Yeah. I want to say hope the gentleman is still alive, but he's probably killed himself. Oh, my God.

No, he's still alive and kicking. Baggy condom and all. Yeah. Cargo condo. Like, you could have saved some money. It's got a free NYC condom. Finding out a girl has you saving her phone as cargo condom. I think.

still beat though to me is the response to everything i don't even think still beat though works as a comeback to that now still still still still the greatest response to any of that because it's like yeah you let him stuff that fair like look how you you beat though nah but my home girl she told him to put in her ass he was she was the first person he ever did anna way because it's like it's like a thumb like if you're gonna try anil you should try a little dick so she just told him to like do a nowhere. Yo, let me explain something to y'all right now, dog. Let me explain something to you out, if I ever find out a girl told me to do anal because my dick was little, I'm killing her entire bloodline. Demer said that so casually, like that didn't make it 10 times worse.

I'm killing her entire cousins got to die. Her dog. Everybody got a dog. Not the dog. Yo, put it in my butt because your dick little. What? Well, she, I mean, like, imagine you getting that call. like she want to have anal sex she's like, bet can't wait. Then you get there and find out you were only selected

because you'll meet small. I don't think she said that to him. She didn't tell him it's because his meat was small, but that's why. She told us, that's why. Yo, women, y'all are evil.

What? Y'all are evil. Y'all, no, y'all, you got to, please, though, but y'all are evil, man.

Also, wanting to do anal that bad is hilarious. You'll put it in my butt because, I'm gonna go find a candidate with a little dick because I want to do anal so bad. I don't think it was like that. I think she just came and the contact with him

and was like, well, I don't feel nothing in my vagina. So she just was like, just put it in my butt. That is a crazy. That's a crazy compromise. That audible is, that's the sickest audible. Oklahoma. Yo, girl, cool. Oklahoma is spreading her butt open to my butt.

Because you get to sit too little. Imagine you go to get the Louvre and she's like, not necessary. That's it. It'll fit right in. Yo, you got to kill yourself, man. Be a man. Kill yourself, though. Facts. Well, obviously, he wouldn't really. That's the only honorable thing. He doesn't know. I'm assuming he doesn't know any of this.

But this is the shit that goes on in the group chats. But most people shit, like we have people like liver cleanse and that's just like a nigga eyes mad yellow because he drank too much. Oh, I know what she's all about too. Jordan. She called him that in front of me once. I was like, yo, y'all are mean. Y'all are fucking mean.

She casually said that. Like, I was part of the group chatter in the joke. I was like, well, damn, that was mean. But did you know why she called him liver clean? Yeah. Wait, she called him liver cleanse in front of him? No, in front of me. Oh, okay.

Talking about him, though. And I was like, yeah, that's fucked up. I'm about saying, if I hear a girl, it's a gossin at the table and the mask by, your mom, this liver cleanse. I'm going to have mad questions. I was like, yo, why you just introduce me as liver cleanse? I'm going to say, at least I can fit a condom. Liver cleanse?

Listen. What's the worst name you got in your phone for guy? Or had in your phone forgot? I feel like, dude, I answer is the worst you got in your phone. Nah, that's the thing. That ain't worse than, that ain't worse than a cargo condom. Oh. Yeah, no, cargo condom, well, that wasn't in my phone.

That's probably the worst one that I've heard. But, yeah. Lucifer. It's a nigga in my phone name Lucifer. But. Because he's just a devil? Mm-hmm. Okay.

Yeah. All right, that ain't too bad. Yeah, that ain't. I'd rather do Lucifer. Yeah, of course you would. I'd rather be Lucifer than cargo condom any day. Call me the devil. This is the funniest one I have on my phone.

What is it? Oh, hell no. That's sassy. No, because you know sometimes if you don't save a number and they'll call, like, I think I recognize this. You'll answer to me like, I wish I didn't answer this shit. That had happened to me twice. To save myself, I put this shit as, oh, hell no.

I never understood why people don't save people. everybody that calls my phone Uber eats T-Mobile I save their number because I hate unknown numbers I hate accidentally answering the phone and somebody I don't want to talk to I saved everybody's number

I don't know why y'all don't do that I got friends that they change their number every three months I'm not I'm not saving you this number I get that but like people like bitches you fuck with like niggas be like nah she wasn't important enough to get her number saved I'm like so then when you want to know

that this person like is calling you and that's why you save numbers that's oh hell no so you know not to answer that did you be it? somebody you beat before? How was it? Oh, you only get to, oh, hell, no. Just a civilian is oh, hell? You don't get to that just going to dinner. Like, you don't get to, oh, hell, no, from a dinner.

You get that out of you. Y'all was sexually active, yeah. Pain, she put it on you. Oh, hell no. Quite the opposite. She, she had on a baggy condom. I'm never fucking this girl again. Yo, man. Oh. Oh, I get it. It took me a while. You just got it?

Welcome to the party, DeMas. Come on and get comfortable. Sit down. I just got it. Mall of my phone as thick thighs. That's crazy if that's the case. Nah, I kind of want you to prove that's... I'm not even listening to DeMaris, though.

Oh, you got nice thighs. You got them out today. You got nice thighs. First of all, my thighs are not out today. I can see them through that. I can see, you know, when the shorts baggy and I can see right through there. I see meat, too. You don't see no...

Yo, De Maris. I got underwear on. Don't let niggas think I'm out here with shorts and know how to wear it. We're not playing that game, though. We're not, we never playing that game. You're thinking it's more lifestyle or it's more mad at what you thinking?

Yo. Hey, fuck y'all. I'm never wearing shorts again. Now, see? No, we like your shorts. See? Look how fast insecurity set in. Sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I like winning shorts. My insurance. I'm looking at my legs. I mean, they're gorgeous. Thank you. I'm too insecure.

I wish I could wear shorts on this pod. I would never want to blind those lenses with them. Pede would have to do too much color code. Yeah. Warping a lid. That's why I sit in here and sweat. You have freckles on your legs, don't you? Yeah, and they're cute. I don't have bad legs. They're just white and I wouldn't want to do that.

These lights already make me white than I already am. These thighs don't see the sun. Look how white my faces and my faces in the sun every day. Can you imagine these babies? Oh my God. That is fucking funny. Y'all play too fucking much, for A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me.

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