New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 8/11

Episode Date: August 17, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal we debate if there's too much music coming out, review JID's new album "God Does Like Ugly", get over our Breezy Bowl hangovers, and welcome Chance The Rapper into the studio to talk about his new album "Starline" #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The volume. While I am happy that we get new music and we get a lot of good new music, right? Mm-hmm. I do think that it's bad that we get this much new music. Why? It was three albums as far as, like, bigger artists.

Yeah, but I feel like we just got the clips album a couple weeks ago. And Alfredo, too. We just got Alfredo two a few weeks ago. And now we have J.I.D. album. We have Gunner's album. We have Bryson Tiller's album. To name a few. I'm sure some other projects dropped.

But when do we have the time to really, like, listen to all of this? Because we spent so much time as having a conversation with my boy the other day. And we've lost, we've, in the conversation, we were talking about how. we've lost a connection to music. Like, there's times now where I could love somebody's album, and I don't even remember the lyrics to the raps. Before, if I loved the probably, this album is crazy. I could recite every song because I felt like there was a different connection to it

versus now we do everything on our phone. If I'm listening to the music on my phone and then I get a text message or I get a call when somebody sends me a clip and I got to watch this clip. It's like you're being pulled away from what I'm really like I'm listening to music on my phone. So now if I got all these other things happening, there's like this connect. Like I hear the music. I hear it. Like I'm listening to the album.

But there's no like the connection or the like there's something. There's like a wall in between us and really connecting to the music it feels like. But I don't think it's a music thing per se. I just think it's an entertainment thing. Well, music is just folded into that because, I mean, even the way we binge shows, like imagine if a season of the Sopranos was available one day, not spread out amongst 14 weeks where you watched an episode, you talked about it with your friends for the whole week, you made predictions, you did all that.

Like, you can just binge things immediately. And on top of that, you have every bit of content in your phone on social media, whether it be TikTok, IG. like music is going to fall to the wayside in that regard. And it's so, it's so much easier to make music now. It's easier to make it. It's easier to put it out. So in that regard, you have, and we'll get to the Bryson thing, but you can put a double album out.

But the contradiction there is I feel like no one has the attention span for it. So it's easier to put it out, but you're putting it out to consumers that don't have the time or attention span to listen to that amount. So, yeah, everyone's fucked in that regard. Like, imagine working on a Netflix series for three years and somebody binges it in one rainy Saturday. And then says, yo, where's season two?

Yeah, I put my life into this shit. Yeah. It's access to everything. And even when I'm watching something I'm engaged with, I'll look at my phone and start scrolling through, I'll see that. Right. And I get distracted. And music is the same way.

like it's very low on the totem pole if you're not like a real lover of music. But even if the songs are too much. I love I love the technology now because again, literally I could pull up any song. I can be thinking about a record and type it in and pull it up and listen to it. So I love it. You can start saying the lyrics to Siri. I love that aspect of it.

But there is a difference in the way I connect to music now than I used to. Like when I had to literally buy physical. music or, you know, a CD album. There was like a different, even if I didn't like it. Because you could only carry so much with you. Like, I used to carry the big CD booklet, but even then, I like, I would keep one CD and my shit. But this is what I'm saying.

I think it's too much now. Like, we just, I'm still listening to Alfredo too, and now I got Jid's album. Now I got, you know, Bryce's album. It's like, bro, I'm still, I haven't really even, you know, really digested all about. bars in Alfredo too yet. And now J.I.D. is on, on my phone. Okay. All right. I hear you.

And again, I'm not trying to be devil's advocate here. Ironically, on September 11th. When Blueprint and Fab's first album came out, like people used to drop on the same day, graduation Curtis. Like, that would happen often where people would drop on the same day. Right.

But tell me what came out three weeks before those albums. Oh, I see. Yeah. I don't know. You get what I'm saying? Like, that's the dead. difference. It's like, okay, we get Alfredo two, two weeks ago, or a week ago. And then now this week, Jid, next week, chance to rapper. It's like, it's like if I'm on a phone call having a

good conversation with somebody, somebody calls in, I'm like, hold on. How often do I go back to that other call? But that's, if it's another good comment, like, my homie calls, so I'm like, yo, I'm downtown, yo, it was, it was lit. I don't know. I just saw, so I forgot I got homie on the on hold now so now it's like when do you when do you have an opportunity to really or it's a shorter window to connect to the music now I think and I mean I'm not saying this about you whatsoever I'm just saying the consumer I feel like a lot of the consumers listen to react as quick as they can rather than live with the music and then move on to the next thing that they can react to so as an artist how do you how do you navigate through that

you that's how you take two years to create and then for someone somebody in three hours to be like, yo, this shit trash? Yeah. That's out of, at that point, that's out of your control. That's where finding the right consumer and the right tribe and the right core fan base matters the most, which is, which will get to JID shit. I don't think he tried to chase anything at all, but his core fan base on this project, myself being one. And I think that was the smartest thing ever. Like, you try to, I get it. You got to grow and get more fans the best way possible. Shit, we go through it with podcast and two down to how we we title certain YouTube shit.

But at the end of the day, it's still the core that's really gonna matter and return and that's the only people you really should feed. That's the strategy, that's the only strategy that you could have control of.

Feeding your core and your tribe. Along the way, maybe you'll get some more people, but do you think Freddie and Al was sitting there of like, yo, we got to get as many people as possible

to go back to listen to Alfredo 1 after this. No, let's keep our formula and grow our formula. That's what's going to move any type of vinyl, move actual real ticket sales. That's the only thing that matters at this point if you're in that space. And JID is a big artist. Like he has an M&M feature that we were completely wrong about.

I feel like we deserve some credit because I think he added it back to the album because of us. Well, no, you came in here with information that you heard or you received from somewhere. It was on an EP. I didn't know it was going to be on. That was an old Rick Ross move. No, but I ain't going to lie. Like, that would have been insane if you don't put a piece. He said when all that shit came out that this was not on that album.

Oh, he did say that. When he posted the EP shit, if I'm, correct me if I'm wrong, fans, you can kill me in the DM. When he was tweeting, she was like, yo, I want to put out some shit before my project. Like, this is, this is the EP before the album. Okay. Like, this didn't have a place on my album. Okay. But again, I mean, it's an Eminem feature, so it should stay there.

And I wasn't too mad at it in the sequencing. saying it's not really a song for me uh all right yeah the prelux is strictly to get people talking intrigued excited about the album that's all um yeah how i interpreted it which is you know obviously i was wrong i interpreted that along with everyone else that this was like your pre-epish it the pre-lux is strictly to get people talking intrigued excited about the album great great strategy But would you not read that? So there's another M-verse on the main album. Nope, I got two of the best fast rappers of all time.

I think he was alluding to himself in there. But, I mean, either way, yeah. To close your point in that regard, I think just feeding your core is the only way because the average consumer is just going to move on and swipe up to the next fucking 15-second reel. You can't like music, even when you're, when they've chopped it down to 2.30 as far as songs go, that's still hard to keep people's attention.

Like, you have fucking movie studios trying to figure out how can we capture somebody in 10 seconds, and they're putting out films that are four hours. Right. We're fucked with a microwave brain. Like, that's just how things go. So it is kind of on you as the consumer to get out of that way. Because, yes, I'm more attached to some of the music I grew up on, but I also had a different mind state and was in a different environment at that time and how I even consume things.

So as a music lover, as a consumer, sometimes I have to like discipline myself and be like, yo, don't look at your phone, sit and just live with this music. Because I know that's where your heart really is with this shit and like how you feel better and everything. I guess for me it's different though, because I used to literally, when the album come out, you know, artists I like drops a project. I burn that project to the ground.

Because I need to hear it. I need to live with it. I need to move around with it. Just to see if I like it, love it, hate it. Now it's like I'm in the mix of still trying to figure out if I love this project or not. And then now, this week I got another artist that I like. He's dropping his album. I got to listen to this.

Now, it's just, it's like, it seems like you can't, I can't listen to everything fairly. But we also got older. Like, you also have to add that factor into it. Well, then that's another thing. Life happens. I got things to do now. I can't just be listening to music. So all of these things happen.

but just the cadence of the way we receive music, though, I think. It's just like it just feels very like, it's almost like a conveyor belt. And, you know, I'm seeing a product come down. Oh, I like this. And by the time I'm looking at this, three more is going underneath the, and I'm like, oh, shit, like, let me listen to it. It just feels like you're always playing catch up when it comes to your favorite music. But I mean, I'll even say, like, I have not listened to the Gunna album yet.

But I'm very. And not because you don't like Gunna. No. You just haven't had an opportunity to hear. With that, yeah, with that said, outside of, I mean, we have a chance on the podcast this coming week. And I had to listen to that album, plus J.I.D. and Bryson Tiller, three artists that I really like. Gunna, I like Gunna, I don't get me wrong. But I've admitted, like, I'm not going to move my life around for a Gunna album.

It would strictly be for the podcast. Yeah. Which to me also feels a little gross, because, like, why should I? be the one even reviewing? Like, I feel like that's fucked up to Gunna. Yeah. Like, with them, not that we have the biggest media platform, but, you know, people do listen to us.

I'm not the one for this. Like, I like a Gunna song every now and then. I'm not going to sit there and do a deep dive on Gunna. And that's nothing negative about him. Right. It's my taste. Yeah, she should taste. I'm sure Gunna would look at some of the music I listen to and be like, dog, you, that's

whack. That's just, I don't know. Turn that off and listen to my brother. Yeah, like, that's just how life goes. So, you, also have to take that into consideration. I'm not never in my life even when I would be completely free and have nothing to do would I run to go dissect a gun album. Yeah. So add that into and I think a lot of people feel that way with how much music is out there. I love that streaming allows you to not have

to sit with the radio and the mainstream shit you're just forced to listen to when I get in the car, I don't have to listen to what the radio is programming. But you're also going to not listen to other shit because of that. Even if gun is the biggest shit, moving. I can't believe I'm not going to sit there and listen to a gun on a song. Like I'd be lying if I said that. And listening to radio now, I can't believe I actually used to listen to the radio. Why? I used to record the radio. It's the same 12 songs from seven artists. When was it not that? And over and over. But that's what I'm saying. Now that you realize that now that I have the ability to listen to whatever I want whenever I want, I can't really, I cannot believe that radio was such a big part of my life at one point.

Because when you listen to it now, like, sometimes in commute and I'll just listen to the radio. And then like, example, the other day I went out. So I caught an Uber, went downtown, right? When I got out the car, a song was playing. Two hours later, I got back in an Uber. That same song was playing again. And I was like, bro, this is. So now I'm listening because now I'm going to say, okay, let me hear what's next.

It almost got to a point where I know which song they get ready to play next. So I'm just like, we used to sit down in the crib like around the radio and listen. And it's like, both the same songs, the same artist. And then I'm thinking like, we know how programming works. We know that they have playlists at the radio and things like that. But my thing is there's so many other songs and dope artists that you could easily, like we don't have to listen to this song. three times in the hour. Like, there's two other artists

you get to put in that spot and played their new record. I mean, I hear you, but in, yes, this was programming working, but like, you know, I remember taking the boombox to go play ball and just waiting for country grammar

to play. Like, just waiting for it. And yeah, it would play once an hour, but that was like a moment at that time. That's why it resonated more. Because we only had, had access to that. Had I had the ability to just listen before the album came out, had the ability to just listen to country grammar every five minutes, I probably would have moved the fuck on.

The fact that we sat around the radio waiting for that song, even if it played every hour, like it made it resonate more. So that speaks to it. Even like when we would, TRL 106 in part, like Tira waiting for DMX party up video. Like run home so you could watch that again. if YouTube was really a thing, it wouldn't have been a moment with me and my friends of like, yo, what number you think? Yo, that part in this, yo, I caught another thing in the video

because you could only maybe see it once a day. Can't rewind it. This is before we had T-vo. Yeah. Yeah. And even when we used to record the radio on tapes because I'm really not that young, we would do that as well.

Like, all right, if we want to listen to this again, let's do a push tape. Like literally record the radio. That was a thing. that made it a moment for a record. Outside of it just resonating sonically, that was like a moment with your friends. To see, so.

Like, who knows the lyrics? Like, that was a thing. So to the point, too much access kind of killed that. Like having the ability to control. You shouldn't have that much access to art at any time. It's a catch 22. Like I really see both sides of how great that is because I love the ability to do that.

Especially when I got an iPod, I thought it was the greatest thing ever. Yeah. And it definitely changed, uh, music discovery and my music taste. But it did definitely take away from the moments you have with music. Like the JIDN Offset record, which is fired, bodies and floor shoot.

Like if that was in radio time, that would probably be a joint that would live with me forever. Right. But now, I don't know. I mean, I like it. Yeah. Too much access. Yeah, I'm not waiting for that record to come on because I can just play it. Yeah.

Well, J.D. Dropped his god does like ugly. I'll take my sunflowers. I texted Demaris. She owes me some sunflowers as well. Yes, you did at the top of the year. I believe you said J.D. will drop the best rap album. I said J.I.D. and Clips will be candidates for a rap album in the year.

And I think I'm there. It's only been two days. Plus, obviously, we had to listen to the chance shit. I had tomorrow the whole weekend and studio sessions. But off the few. the few listens I had of the jid shit. I mean, I feel like personally, he's setting himself up to be the next generation person,

but I don't know if that even exists anymore, that there's going to be like a new big three. But Ginny, I don't see it. Yeah, I don't know if that's even going to be a thing, not to Jid's credit or discredit. But this is easily up there with the clip. Clips, Alfredo 2. Was I the only one that, like, listening to shit and thought it was fucking incredible?

No, so it was Sunday. I was on the phone with Nick, Nick Grant, and he asked me, say, yo, you're a Jid album yet. And I said, oh, shit. Like, I'm still listening to Alfred O2 and clips. Like, I forgot Jid dropped Friday. So I said, I'm going to listen to it today. So I'm like, what you think? Nick, like, yo, there's some joints on there.

Like, he got some shit on there. There's definitely some joints that I think you're going to like. So I said, all, let me check it out. So all day, Sunday, I'm moving around, so I'm playing the album. And again, when I'm listening to music, it's literally the music I hear first. I don't even know what you're saying. Camryl, I'm just trying to hear the sound that you went after what you did with the music. So then now I'm getting to the lyrics and the flows.

And I'm like, damn, like this feels like an album that would have came out in the 90s. Yep. Like it has that energy. It has that attention to, you know, details when it comes to bars. how you write and construct songs and you know jid is one of those rappers that understands his voice as an instrument the way he uses influxions in his voice and his tone his uh his cadence his his you know his flows on a lot of the records um he does

like interesting little things with his voice that he that he does with the music and i thought that this album was was incredible like i listened to it some joints I think the G's record to me is one of the better records I've heard from Jid and his discography like ever. Yeah. That's one of my favorite Jid songs, I think ever. I'm terrible with titles, but I specifically looked at that because when I heard it, I remember when I was listening to it the first time and I'm listening to the music and I'm like, damn, like, what is that? So I went and looked.

I had to see what the name of that particular song was. And I played that like three times. listening to what he's saying and the way he ended the album on for keeps I think is the name of that one uh yeah for keeps yep for keeps uh you know he really got in his you know so loop to soul sample let me just get my shit off um

you could obviously hear you know the Andre 3,000 influence the outcast influence you could hear it's not even just that it's dungeon family it's dungeon family goody mob like even from earth gang that whole that whole crew like the new version of of east Atlanta like post Gucci

between black jibed Earthgang like all of them doesn't get talked about enough even though they all aren't in the same I mean obviously JID and Earthgang are Dreamville and LBR1 black but they all grew up together

that doesn't get talked about enough of like carrying on and elevating a sound in Atlanta because to me that shit is is Goody Mob on steroids and 2025 with what Earth Gang and JID did with this production. I should have looked at the credits. I don't know the full production breakdown,

but yeah, on the side of somebody that could just rap really well, Atlanta artists are great at rapping really well, but making sure that we're going to make good music. Yeah. Like, music goes first in Atlanta, lyrics go second. I don't mean that as a slight.

No, no, no. Because I think three sacks, who's one of the greatest lyricists. ever if you want to get down to it. He's going to put music way before lyrics with everything. And that's where Atlanta always wins. And that's what I think Jid did on this album. We all know he could rap just as good as anybody in 2020.

To me, that wasn't the focus. It was content of what he was saying. And it was melodies. It was how he was arranging his flow on certain things. Nothing about outside of Animal Volume 1 was, yo, I could rap better than y'all. Yeah. It was music. I could have did without that record, though.

I mean, just being honest like that. And that's my thing. Even the album is incredible. I think the music is great. The, you know, lyrically, his flows, everything. Like, he jid paid attention to every detail when it comes to constructing. Yeah. Fitting Sierra on that shit, Atlanta legend shit.

The features was dope. Obviously having the clips is fucking crazy. Malice might have another verse of the year on that. Push and Malice both went. fucking that community record. Pastor Troy. Yeah. I mean,

showing my age of just how great it was to hear from Pastor Troy. Yeah. But yeah, I can't say enough about this project. Shut out to Vince. Vince got a crazy verse on that VCR's record. No, crazy verse on that VCR's record.

Don Tolliver. I love that. Don Tolliver record. I was, you know, when I saw the Don Tyler feature, I was kind of like, you know,

seems like completely different worlds. But, you know, you quickly, realize how much of an artist jit is he's not just a rap like so mixing him with don it looks kind of like to the eye like what would they do together but the directors though but that's very much to what i was saying before of like three stacks like once three stacks went on his like feature run it was always on records that you wouldn't expect yeah even when he would do his freestyles of uh walk it out and like he would always go on things that you'd be like all right i didn't expect you to go on

this even with whether it be James Blake, whether it be Frank, like all that stuff. He always found a way to be on something different. And I think Jid has that same ability. Yeah. He can show out on anything and not sound weird. Of blue, phenomenal record. No, I think Don and Jig could do an EP tomorrow and it would sound great. Yeah, no, I was definitely, again, you know, always like Jid, always supported Jid, think he's

phenomenal. But, you know, you kind of get scared when it comes to your. favorites putting out a project because you're like, I hope he didn't, wasn't, you know, influenced by certain pressures to make this type of sound and this, that. It's good to know that Jid is going to be Jid. Like, he looks like he's sticking to what he wants to do, how he wants to sound, how he wants to, you know, be perceived. So it's always dope when your favorite rappers go about it that way and approach it. Like you said, stick to it to their core. Yeah. And I'm, I mean, I think that speaks to the system that he's in. I think he was talking to B-Doc. I forgot we was

talking to when I saw the clip. But just that Dreamville system of they're not going to give you any of that pressure whatsoever. Yeah. Cole talked for years of when he was in that first Rock Nation system where it was radio record. Let's get him with Stargate and like, you have to have that. And they were like, no, no, no, no, we could do this in another way. Let me show you another way to get to that A-list rapper shit, which Cole did. So Jit is in a system where they're going to let him do what he wants to do.

Yeah. And yeah, I think that speaks to Dreamville and why the music sounds so good. because if they were over Jid's shoulder trying to make something happen, I don't think we'd get a good project. I also don't think you get like a Shaybutter baby. I think the system that Ebe and Coe have with their artists is the best way.

Ari doesn't seem to be too happy with it though. Well, she left Jimville. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but again, I really don't know like the politics of that. But before they let her even ASL, like, they let her do her thing. So, I mean, I'm not sure contractually what that looks like, but Jid spoke very highly of what it was like working with them in the major label system.

And they did right by him. I don't know Ari's take on that. But yeah, I think everyone kind of just gets left alone. You could do some people maybe don't want to be left alone. Maybe some people want more. Some people can't be left alone. Some people maybe want more support in what they're doing. Like, Earth Gang, I think, is incredible because they're left alone.

Now, you could say if they weren't, maybe they would be bigger because they're like two the most talented fucking people I've heard in the last 15 years, but they're left alone. Yeah. So if you want to be left alone and make your music and make your money, great system. If you want the major shoot and like, all right, we're going to go buy you a hit somewhere, then maybe it's not the place for you. And I don't know if that's the case with art. I really don't.

But. Well, either way, shout out to J.I.D. Jiddy Jig. God does like ugly available now. stream that, download that, play that, support that. Phenomenal rap's, great music. West Side Gun, popping the album off within the first two seconds. I was like, wait, did I click the right album? Yeah, man.

No, I really, really like this project. I'm looking forward to living with it a little longer, even though fucking next week, Drake might decide to drop, and then now I can't listen to shit. Or Kendrick might put some, like, it's like, what the fuck, man? I'm just, I'm just digesting God does like ugly, and here come you niggas with more raps. But no, this is a great project. Definitely enjoyed it. And shout out to Jed for a phenomenal, phenomenal album.

I have my hangover glasses on today. These lights, I did not expect to hurt my eyes the way that they do. I would have done a better fit, too. I did not expect these to make my eyes water. I thought she was about to play the drums or something. Those are like drummer shades. These are my breezy bowl hangover shades. Breezy bowl hangover.

You got a breezy bowl hangover. I'm going home. Why are you trying to hang out with Chris? He just did a five-hour set and you're trying to hang out and kick it after? Oh, you're disgusting. I started impressing with how much I could drink. Oh, my God. You're disgusting.

You're disgusting. But anyway, we're back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. And do remember that we do still have merch on sale. Yes. Patreon.com, new Rory and all. No ads. $5 per month.

You can listen to everything. Ad-free. at any moment. Free. I like hearing an ad sometimes, though. Sell me something. Sell me some stuff. I like when marketing works.

Yeah. Like, I like being tricked sometimes. Sometimes I like seeing a commercial and go, yes, White Castle. I will drive up the street. Yeah, but it's hard to get tricked by ads now, though. I think if you get tricked by something. It just reminds, I just think it reminds you sometimes

of, like, things that you missed. Yeah. People are like, oh, my God, I spent money on this, and I got it, and it wasn't what I thought. And then I look at the picture, I'm like, Well, why did you even buy this in the first place? Yeah. What did you think this was going to do for your life?

I tell you no, Peach likes that girl. I've never heard his phone ringing my life. Got to keep the ring on, right? You know what I mean? It's no call. Vibrate doesn't do it. Yeah. But yes, I had a great time at the Breezy Bowl.

Shout out to Bryce and Tiller, Summer Walker and Chris Brown. Yes. At Life Stadium this week in New Jersey, two nights in a row sold out. Mm-hmm. shout out to Bryson for pulling up. We got an episode. What is next week? Next week.

We have a Bryson Tiller episode. Brice and Tiller episode coming soon. Very interesting conversation right now. Our chance episode is out. We had this week, because we did chance this week too, right? Yeah. I'm like, everything's blurred at this. After the Breezy Bowl, I can't even remember.

I can't even remember anything. It wipes my hard drive of everything. Yeah, once you see Chris flying around, like, life is just like a, like, what is life. Like, look at, that's all I have in my head right now. You think that you feel small when you're on the plane? Imagine how Chris feels flying over football stadiums every night looking down on all of you.

Like, you all mean nothing. You were so small in his world. He didn't miss a word while doing backflips to look at me now 30 feet in the air. Yeah, man. I know rappers that can't get through a 16th. He hit every fucking word while flipping through the air. But yes, we'll get to that. We had a great conversation with Chance.

I had wanted to hear from Jansen in a while. Like, I just felt like so much went on in his life, so I thought that was a cool conversation. Bryson conversation was great. Can't wait if that's come out. So we leave here yesterday, and I thought the apocalypse was happening. I had never heard biblical thunder like that. I don't know where you were when that was happening, but in New Jersey, my brand new house was shaking. It's like made of bricks, my house.

You've seen my house. It's like a structure. Yeah. It was shaking. It, um, I knew it was going to rain. I didn't know it was going to storm like that, though. I had just got home as soon as it started, started the rain. And I was like, you know what?

Let me just chill for a minute. And I head back out, go to MetLife, you know, to catch the show. And then you called me because, uh, the tickets were under my name. And you needed a ticket. So we got that squared away. And I asked, I said, oh, no, they gave me a band. Well, you had a band. They gave me a band to get on the field, but not into the, not into the stadium.

I could get on the grounds. So we handled that situation. We got over that obstacle. And I said, yo, is it still raining over there? Because I was, you know, everybody, or most people in my timeline were at the show. And they showed at one point everybody was inside by the concession waiting for the rain to stop. So I'm like, I don't want to walk into that.

Like that would just seem like madness. You said, nah, it's clear. Everything's good. I said, all, cool. Hung up with Rory, called the car service, got in the car, I'm headed to MetLife. Rory texts me when I'm about 35 minutes away. He says, heads up. it's a shit show

She's trying to be a good friend And I told my driver My good friend Yo, turn this ship around Yeah Going home Yeah, no, I'm not I'm not going through

A shit show To see Chris Brown Singing in the rain First of all I felt Kind of gay Yeah That I had like Went home

Showered put on Cologne And Putting on Cologne Forreasy's Well it wasn't for Breezy It's just a It's part of the routine That's part of the routine

After you shower You get dressed Throw a little cologne on And then I looked at the mayor I said I'm going to see a Talented man singing the rain.

Like, what am I doing with my life, right? But no problem saying it. Fan of Chris Brown think he's one of the greatest we've ever seen. So anytime you got an opportunity to see Chris shut down a fucking stadium, you go see it. On the way there, Rory says shit show. I say, no, I'm not going. It was too much.

It's thunder and lightning. Yeah. I feel gay anyway. It's kind of gay or turning around with like with your fit already on. And, nah, but nobody saw me. So it's like, it's not really, you know what I mean? It's not that bad. I mean, I felt bad.

Like, internally, I was dying on the way there. Like, yo, what am I doing? But for Chris Brown, I was willing to make an exception. So it was like, all right, cool. But then once you say shit show, I'm too old for shit shows, Roy. I'm not doing it no more. No, and I mean, Bryson's performance is great. Summers was great.

Obviously, we'll get to the Chris part as well. It wasn't them. It was met life and the infrastructure of just what happened after that rain. Like everything turned to Matt. No, I get it. everyone was in different places they shouldn't obey. They was just like, remember stopping frisk? Yeah.

They was just doing that with people's tickets. Like, no, no, no, let me see a ticket. Yeah. You're not supposed to sit there. Like, it was a mess. Okay. Yeah, I understand that. It was still easily, I mean, I'm not saying anything that has been on all over social media.

It was easily one the greatest shows I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah. I've also never seen anyone perform for three hours in my entire life. Yeah. I had fatigue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I went home exhausted. Yeah, yeah.

He was the one singing and dancing the entire time. That's the illest part. about all of this shit to me because we you know for years we sat down especially on our platform and talked about um you know chris brown being the one artist that we can all unanimously agree deserves a super bowl halftime and hasn't gotten it yeah whatever whatever reason we want to say he hasn't gotten one yet that's what it is what it is but he's the one person the one artist that we've all i think collectively agree uh deserves a super bowl halftime show and would absolutely do an amazing job so what does chris brown turn around and do he turns around and creates the breezy

Crazy ball. This is essentially Chris Brown's Super Bowl. Every night, he's in the stadium. He's in the stadium selling it out, doing three hours of hits, performing at a high level, production at a high level. Everybody that goes is saying it's the greatest show they've ever been to, you know, how amazing a performer and the artist he is, and you get to see 20 years of his songs and his hits being performed.

I just think that is dope that, you know, Chris kind of, you know, named the Breezy Bowl and is essentially doing a Super Bowl halftime show every time out, you know, in these shows. I think it's a, I think it's a fleck. I think this is just Chris Brown's way of saying, I don't need to do the Super Bowl. Actually, I'll do one every night on my tour. There wasn't in the three-hour set. There wasn't one single song that I was like, damn, what song is this again? Yeah. I knew the words to every single record that came on for three hours. And then when they're, when they're strapping him up to the fucking, you know, when he goes as high as the jet, that go over MetLife, they have to, like, obviously, kill some time in between.

They bring the DJ back out, and he's like, oh, I'm just going to play a few records that we couldn't squeeze in and then play, like, four or five number one records while they were strapping. Like, you didn't have songs you couldn't fit in a three-hour set. Right. At a stadium? Yeah, yeah. He's just flexing on everybody, man.

He's showing y'all that there's nobody that can do. I mean, again, a three-hour set, there's maybe three other artists that could do something like that and perform at that level. and Chris Brown is obviously one of them. So I did want to go see, and Mojo's aside, I did want to go see the show because I've been there

great things about it. But I just felt like it was too many, it's too many just red flags. It's the thunder and lightning, it's the delay. It's, you know, you're telling me it's a shit show. And then internally I feel like this is nasty.

I got Cologne on going to see Chris Brown by myself. It just felt nasty. Yeah. And of course, just how my life just has been working lately. Just, you know, running into everybody. Oh, man.

Jesus. Who did you run? Justice is arguing with a security guard because we're in like the front of house like on the other side of the barricade, but they were already trying to kick. It was just a lot going on. And Justice has like the ID. Like it's not a pass. Like he has his photo on the fucking thing for the whole tour. And the security guards even getting mad at him with that whole shit. I'm minding my business because I don't even think I'm supposed to be here with whatever credential have. I'm over here. But then I could see it was getting a little heated. So I just, you know, grab justice. It was like, oh, come on. Let's. Let's just go this way. Then the security card grabs my arm, and I look at his face, and he goes, Bori. It's like, hey, man. And just like you know, he's like, it's my ex-cousin-law. Look at that. Look at the family everywhere. No, it wasn't fun.

It's always family. Because I don't know, I don't know the temp. It's like Torretto said. We used to be really close. But I, Torretto told me. Can't come. And I, by a smirk, I couldn't tell if it was like, yo, I've been owing you the fade or we're still We're still in-laws, don't worry.

But yeah, it was a little nerve-wracking. And then I was sitting there like, of course, I just keep running into every ex-person. Like, front of house of the Chris Brown show. That's the guy. All right, but did he look out for you? Did he give you the show? Yeah, no, he let us stay right there.

That's what was so funny about the whole shit. He was kicking justice out with that ID, and he was like, y'all have fun now. There you go. So your family. Your family now. But speaking of gay shit, another friend, I will not say his name

because I don't want to out him like that. In the middle of the show, he did whisper to me I totally understand if your girl just fucks Chris Brown, right? I was like, what? He was like, come on. Like, she gets a pass.

This is in the middle of him doing backflips and shit. I was like, wait, who? No, the fuck she don't. What? That we had a whole debate backstage after the show about the whole thing.

Oh, no. You just got to understand. You actually debated that? All right. All right, it wasn't a debate. We all were just looking at him like he was fucking insane the entire time.

Okay, all right. But he was like, no, you got us like, that's top tier level of talent. Like, if Rihanna came over here, I would expect my girl to just let me beat. So, like, you got to just let your girl fuck Chris Brown. I was like, I really don't have to. No, yeah, no, see, I don't know. Is that what men are thinking at the show? Like, yeah, my girl.

It's that could have a show. My girl. Hey, Chris. It's that groundbreaking. You just offer your girl up like Abraham. Just take her. Do what you want with her. Have your way with her.

Use her and send her back home. I'm honored. Yeah, like, what's taking her? What type of shit is that? But I did stay after. They do have the... I forgot what... It's some breezy bow.

There's a cute name for it, but it's like an after-for-the-up already in MetLife. Like how Drake has done the one before. And I'm not here to shit on young women, but gross. Ugh. You don't like them? Not for you. Every single shit is the exact same fucking face.

The same stupid oversized lips. Same can't figure out. I'm sure you're white, but you have... You've gone so far with this surgery. Now I can't tell if you're mixed. Yeah, he looked. Oh, my God. You look like the aborigines?

Yes. Meanwhile, she's Greek the whole time. Like, I just can't figure it out. Yeah. They're all bored. Like, they're just sit there and just look fucking swollen in the face. Yeah. They just, they're so uninteresting and gross.

I just, I feel for the young bunch. And listen, I'm no prize and I know none of those women want to sleep with me. Yeah. Get that out the way. Just an observation. I'm just. saying as a 35-year-old man looking at all the couches of just 50 women just sitting there, not even speaking to each other.

Like, remember when Ho's used to, like, be fun? Yeah. I'm not even saying, like, in a sexual way, but like, hoes used to be fun. You're just boring. You're like bad art on the wall. You were essentially at the DMV. All of the women were in the queue hoping that their number was called. For sure.

Absolutely. You know, if you ever been on a, you know, a job interview, everybody's in the lobby, kind of just, you know, you don't really talk to each other. It's kind of like a head and how you doing. Because we're all in competition. We're all trying to get this position, this job. Yeah. So that's the same energy.

They're all trying to get a position of a job for the night. And, you know, just sit there and. Which is also an extremely selfish and young-minded, young bitch way of thinking. This man just rocked for three hours, sung every single note, danced the entire time. You think he wants to fuck your weird face? Yeah. Who has the energy? Like Chris is in human

If Chris fuck anyone that night He is a different level of energy Oh absolutely yeah He did walk back into that shit With more energy than everybody though Once he walked in it was like How are you stay? I'm tired

This is why he's one of the greats man You gotta be one of the greats to do that man But I am I am gonna try to catch the show At some point I don't know which city But I do want to see the show But I just last night it was just too many Too many red flags And I was just like I mean I don't know

This doesn't feel like the thing to do And truthfully, I wanted to see Bryson set. And when you told me he had just finished when you got there, I was like, wow. Yeah. So. Oh, yeah. Then when I walked back to Bryson's dressing room to say, what's up before he left? Walk in some people in there. One girl goes, hey, Roy, our kids play together.

I was like, I can't escape anything. Yeah, yeah. It's a simulation. Yeah, you're a dad now. Just to stare at me because I had the deer in the headlights because I didn't recognize the girl, which made me look like an awful father that I don't know who my kids is playing with. Right. Ma'am, I don't know you.

I've never seen before and how do you know my daughter? We had a great conversation, but it was just literally going from seeing my ex-fiancee's cousin to then walking into a green room where I think things are safe. And it's like, hey, our kids play together. It's like, dude, what, all right, I need to go home. You did have, like, definitely a dad trip where you were off the map. Josh, we have that video. This was one of those personal lives, like, dad needs a weekend.

But look at the walkoff. Can you just rewind it one time? Is this that carnival? Look at me. Look at the camera. Yeah. And then look. Oh,

and then look at the look off like I didn't see the camera. Oh, yeah. Like this may affect my home life a bit. When this came out, I defended you online because I was like, I said, well, it's the culture. It's carnival. It's interested in the culture. This is what you do at carnival. Here's the truth.

I, regardless, I was tripping. Yeah. I was tripping. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Why do you think you were tripping? Why do you think he was tripping? I think I was tripping.

No, I think I was tripping because nobody knew that me and my wife were separated. You know what I'm saying? So I have her looking dumb. Don't let your lady look at it. I'm sorry. Whether she's your BM, your wife, your girlfriend, your best friend, don't let your lady look stupid. Yeah, okay. For some reason I thought that was after there was the announcement.

No, that was the big deal about it where everybody. where everybody was tripping was, it was like, is this appropriate behavior for somebody that's married? Okay, so that look off wasn't like, oh shit, I'm caught it. It was like, damn, like. I'm putting our business out there, basically. It was my birthday. Okay.

And I was, I'm not even going to say anything else. But I'm saying, like, it was my birthday. Yeah. I'm lit. I'm with all my guys is carnival. That was my 30th birthday. And I'm not trying to make excuses. I'm just saying that, like, I'm paying the scene for you.

Like, but basically, yeah. I mean, that is, that is, you know, Caribbean culture that is, like, you know, a thing. But, like, at the end of the day, like, I feel like I was glad when that shit was over because my phone was blowing up the next day about that shit.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like your man that was holding you up on the dub, that's classic move. Maybe he should have been grabbing phones. Yeah, no, it's Carnival. That's the thing. Yeah, you can't grab phones.

It's carnival. It's like, everybody was lit. Everybody's dancing. That was probably the, like the cleanest wine I caught. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all are lucky they censored the other wines I was catching. Yeah, when the sun went down.

You know what I'm saying? But it's like, but the truth is like, like I said, like, don't, don't have anybody looking stupid. And I went out there for fun. Like we, I think at the end of the day, like, I do wish that that shit didn't happen that way. You know what I'm saying? And I wish that I was, you know, more particular.

of her. Yeah. But like, I think it's, you know, it's in the past. That's the reality. That's part of it.

It's like, you deal with realities. You go through like all of these different decisions that get you every single decision that we all made got us to sit on these couches right now. Yeah. So it's like, okay,

like I got to deal with whatever comes with that. And also like do whatever I can to like make up for that. And also I got to like, I can't. make it seem like, oh, I've got to build a fucking time machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, what was that conversation like? Because nothing's worse than like, especially your 30th birthday.

Like, you just start, phone, just start ringing like, you don't even know the video's up, just phone blowing up, like. No, it's like, really it's like your, I got a lot of people that love me. Like, and a lot of people that love me, but don't necessarily know everything that's going on in my life. So, like, it's mainly like friends, family, team, press. Like, everybody hit my lawn like, yo, this shit going viral. Like, you got a while.

I know it's your birthday, naga. You're supposed to just catch the wine. Don't smack it. Yeah, yeah. Fuck is you doing? And, but, like, you know, the end of the day, they going in, man. Yeah. I'm 32 now.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Sorry. Listen, when it came out, I was like, listen, man, he's at carnival. This is what goes on. This is what happens. and everybody was like, nah, he wilder, you know, the women was having, he wild for that. And I'm just like, I get it, but it's carnival.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I feel the same way, but this is where I believe double standards exist. If it was flipped and my girl did that, was like, no, but it's carnival. I'd be like, you fucking crazy. No, but double standards is real. We know that. I feel like there's always going to be gender wars because there's two genders. Oh, sorry, wait.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. All right, let's take a step back. There's a Republican. Take a step back. There's a Republican. I knew you was a Republican. Let's take a step back. That's our clip.

That's going to lead the episode. Let's take a step back. Let's take a step back. Let's take a step back. Let's take a step back. Okay. What I'm trying to say is that the CIA is trying to cause the vision. Yes.

My brother. Yes. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? You know, it's so funny how you say that and you catch us a late way, whoa. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean it. I don't even say the word gender office.

Yeah, yeah. You can't. Once I heard. myself talking, I was like, what am I talking about? What I'm talking about right now? What I'm talking about right now? In your relationship, there was two genders. That's what you were getting at. What I was saying, what I was saying is like, no matter what, if something happens with some celebrities, there's going to be a lot of people that tag onto the conversation in pushing whatever their belief or stance

on something is. And even whatever happened is going to be presented to you by the blogs or whatever Instagram pages or whatever in a way to make you have to have a, you know, hot or cold opinion on what's going on. And so sometimes I think the people that's involved in those stories don't even, like, we don't take the time or give ourselves the grace to realize, like, this shit not really about me. It's about niggas wanting to go get, go catch a wine at somewhere else. Like, this shit don't got nothing to do with me. But unfortunately, I'm tied into this conversation now.

And it's going to, you know, it'll only last as long as I keep talking about that shit. So I kind of got that, you know. Yeah. It happens. Drug, you know what I'm saying? Did I do that? I mean, listen, if you got to get caught doing something, might as well be a carnival. So you've been, you've been writing.

What is your relationship like today with Kanye? Because you didn't put nothing out album-wise in the last six years, but you've been writing a lot. You've been working a lot specifically with Kanye. Where's the relationship like today with Yeh? Like, where do y'all stand? Do you still speak to them often? You still work with them? All there.

any sessions left over any music that came from those sessions that are on this album? No, there's nothing from those sessions on this album. There was one that could have been raw. But no, there's not any on this album. And I was going to say, so honestly is the best policy. I haven't talked to him in a long time. Okay. He's one of the most influential people in my music.

You know what I'm saying? He was at my wedding. He was, you know, our kids have hung out together. So, like, you know, I always love Kanye. Yeah. And but just being honest, I haven't talked to him in a while. I feel like I've been hella busy. I'm working on shit.

He's obviously been busy. He's been working on shit, too. So, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, nah, but also, like, I don't know. I'll be trying not to take opportunities to, like, diss motherfuckers or, like, add too much to the story. So, like, chances, whatever. You know what I'm saying?

genuinely just want to know what y'all laugh. Yeah, I haven't talked to them in a long time, but like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just, that's people. Yeah, I mean, would that be a conversation you'd want to have once, you know, everything gets a little less busy after the release and a conversation? So the way that I think about my world is like I'd be thinking about my day. So like what I got to do that day and what I'm working on for the next two weeks, maybe six months.

But more likely what I'm just thinking about that day is to be a lot of shit going on. So my relationships and how I view people as friends and stuff is just have I loved this person and have they ever like, you know, willfully and intentionally betrayed me? And so I got friends that I haven't talked to in five or six, seven years. Right. And so it's like it's not like I'm anticipating some conversation, some like thing where it's like, all right, now it's my time to fix you and tell your ass what you've been tweaking on. No shit like that. Yeah. I don't think about it like that at all.

You know, that's one of my, that was one of my co-hosts on the voice, you know what I'm saying? Shout up to folks too. Yeah. Yeah. John Legend would be trying to fix Kanye through Twitter. You got his number. That ain't going to work. Yeah, that ain't going to get it.

That ain't go get it. Like, you know his address. You can just go to it. You can go to the crib, man. Yeah, just pull up. Just pull up. I'll let you man. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know what they got going on. I'm also a lot younger than them niggas, like, you know what I feel like there's like different ways that people can even have friendships because, we're not necessarily peers, you know what I'm saying? Like we, you know, like, I, I, my first, like, album that I consciously wanted to have was the college dropout. So, yeah, so I have a different reverence for him or, or just understanding of, like, how my life went and how it influenced things I do. Like, I think most rappers got a rapper that was their first album and probably from their city. You know what I'm saying?

So imagine if yours was Kanye West. Right. And imagine if you worked with them. And imagine all that shit. So it's like, for me, I think I just begin that, you know, I let people be people. I always going to have my own opinions. And I'm going to always state my opinions. You know what I'm saying?

Not necessarily on camera usually, but like, you know, for the most part, I'm going to just, I'm just be me. I'm going to let people be them. And so, no, there's not like a time where like I'm like, man, I got to make sure I have. hit up Kanye before I put this album out or after I put this album out or anybody. You know what I'm saying? I'll be thinking about like who's in the rack, like who am I going to hang out with today? Who's going on? What business do I have to do today is more my like M-O, I guess.

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