New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 8/4

Episode Date: August 10, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal, the guys recap the Nicki Minaj vs Dez Bryant Twitter battle, debate if Will.I.Am. has a point saying that Black Thought is better than Jay-Z, preview the new Bryson Tiller EP, and Offset affirms Mal's take that Drake put the Migos on #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. The volume. As I woke up today, Nikki Minaj versus Des Bryant happened. I don't even think they're trying to hide the simulation from us anymore. What has happened? The confusion I had in traffic of how this even begun.

Like, we are putting so many sentences together these days that I never thought we would hear. Putting so many people together that I thought we would never. It's like, what is going on? What is happening? Because y'all, you know, I get a lot of the news. and the current shit from y'all when I come here what is happening with des brine and and nicky well the first thing I saw I got like I was in round six is when I realized anything was even happening when I saw Nikki offer up her husband

to fight an NFL player do you think she consulted with with her husband before that wait she did what she said she would get 10 million dollars so that Des brian and her can fight. And I'm not saying, you know, Kenny is not who he is or not where he's from or not the past that he has. I'm just saying, Des Bryant is Des Bryant. Don't offer, I don't care. My wife, my girl, Demaris, anybody, do never offer me to fight Desbrine. Like, do not do that. But imagine I you sleep. Now I got to fight him. Now imagine you sleep and your wife is another room doing that. And then you wake up. I'm seeing that you got to fight an NFL player.

Like, wait, what would happen? What just happen? But what is all of the stemming from? Is it like, so I had to go back. Like, I'm completely lost. Like, how did we even get to Des and Nikki even having a conversation? I thought she was still talking about Des from Frog Nation. Desiree.

Then I got really confused. Wait, this is Des Bryant. It's up for every day. Is it? Any Des is getting it. Yo, it's being up for any Des. Yo, Nikki going at any Desire. is hilarious.

But wait, is that part of it? Like maybe he thought that he, she says something by him? So I went back right before we started recording. So initially, there was something about Jerry Jones and Des Bryant's contract where Hove negotiated that deal without being like a licensed NFL agent at the time. So it caused controversy or whatever. So then Des like just, I don't know, commented on it. And then Nikki, who has been on her tirade with Rock Nation, saw this and obviously wanted to take advantage of any Rock Nation slander.

Okay. And she says, does anyone want to play a game? And then Des Bryant innocently was like, I love games. Not knowing that this was about to talk about child rape, offering $10 million bounties for fights. Okay. Like, I think he thought it was just going to be a game. Okay. Nikki thought otherwise.

And then Desk said, get to $10 million in cash. I'm ready now. Well, we know, well, it's safe to say that Des is ready. Nah, he probably still in, he doesn't play anymore, does he? No. Okay, so he's probably still, you know,

he still has a workout regimen, I'm sure. Des Bryant is like up there with Cam Newton as like one of the most athletic people I've ever seen in my life. Like, I don't care if he's never thrown a punch. You're still going to have trouble with Desryan. Absolutely, yes. That is a fucking monster.

Yes, but this is just so, but how, again, you explained everything, And I'm still confused as to how we got it made sense. I was just telling you that. All right, all, right, I'm still like, how did we get here, though? Like, what is going on? Why is everybody, like, what is everybody's upset? Everybody's mad.

Everybody's, like, what is going on in the world? Like, I thought everybody was supposed to be happy, healthy, and just chill. Why would you think that? I mean, because that's just the best way to be, you know. Everybody just mind your business. Nirvana. Yeah, man. I don't know, man. I don't know.

Admittedly, don't know too much about either cases. I just don't understand how a Jerry Jones and JZ negotiation 10 years ago led to me finding out that Des Bryant allegedly beat up his mother. And I found out even more about the alleged rapist activities of the Minaj family. I started learning things about Nikki's brother, her dad. Like, why is Des Bryant telling me this? Yeah, but I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, Dez beat his mom up. I think his mom was abusing him. I'm saying all alleged fans on both sides,

I'm admitting. I didn't even want to look further into it. I was sitting there wondering why it was even being talked about when all we were talking about before was Jerry Jones and Juan making a deal. Yeah, I mean, listen, man, again, nothing surprises me, but this one is as close to being surprising as it gets. Like, I never thought I would come in here and hear that Nikki Minaj and Des Bryant are negotiating a $10 million fight. I just never thought that would be a part of our talking points. But I don't know, man. I don't know what's going on with people. I think everybody just needs to relax, you know, just chill, be happy.

Life is beautiful. We cause a lot of issues that don't need to be caused and we don't, you know, need to go down certain paths. But, you know, it is what it is. But I feel like they needed to respect the audience a little bit more on this one because I was still trying to figure out how Johnny Mansell and Gilly were beefing. I wasn't even ready for Nikki. I was still trying to figure out that one. Yeah, I didn't understand that either.

Johnny just jumped in that, I think. He just was like, yo, I'm going to slap the shit out. I was just like, whoa, like, Johnny, where did that? That just came out of, you came in hot. Because the Cam Newton and Gilly, I wouldn't call it a beef, but they're war of words back and forth. Yeah, Cam and Gilli are funny. Like, I mean, it hasn't gotten, in my opinion, that serious from what I've seen. It's been kind of playful slash serious banter back and forth.

Yeah. I thought Cam's response. response was hilarious. I just then, when Mr. Football, fucking Mr. Ohio just comes out of left field and he's like, y'all slap the shit out of Gilly. Like, wait, that has to be a fake Johnny Mansell count. Nope, that's a verified account. What the fuck is going on in the world? I don't know, man. He says, yo, Gilly the kid, you may be the biggest fucking lose on the planet talking like you've fucking done anything on the football field. If I see you, just know I'm going to slap the fuck out out of you. Trust. Shout out the 38 special. But I don't know if I'm as surprised as that.

Like, Johnny is... Actually, I didn't look up. I thought he really said shout out to 38th special. No, but he said, I was like, damn, I missed the 38th smash shout out. No, but he said trust. So, you know, that's 38th, shit. So, you know, shout out the spesh. Yeah, this one doesn't really surprise me because, you know, Johnny is a, he's a wild boy, man.

So, you know, he's sticking up with his, I guess, his NFL counterpart in that regard, right? He's sticking up for Cam Newton. Like, yo, listen, don't disrespect Cam. Cam is a great athlete, great quarterback. you know, stop talking shit about him, stop shit. And you could kind of see why he came to. Oh, no, no, no. I get, you know, that Heisman community.

I'm sure they always look out for you. Yeah, so fraternity. You know that. You know a thing about that. If one of my rappers was playfully going back and forth with somebody, I wouldn't then step in. I'm sure Cam and Johnny Mansell have had maybe three conversations in their entire life. Yeah. I'm not stepping in and saying, I'm going to slap the shit out of you when you guys were doing playful banter.

Well, Gilly responded. And as Gilly, you know, Gilly ain't going to miss a moment to respond to anybody. But Gilly responded and he had a face full of, let's say, substance. I don't know what it was. He had a face full of substance. Faceful of substance. He had a face full of substance. And he just was like, yo, listen, you know, Johnny, I don't know what you over there doing.

But I can only guess that you must be high out of your mind right now thinking that you're just going to slap the shit out of me. Like, I don't know, man. I just, again, we're putting sentences together. We're saying things, putting names together that I never thought would happen. this is what the internet does so i view this one brings people together

even if we don't ask for it johnny manzel of course is an incredible athlete at one one time i watched the doc i don't know if he stayed in shape i've seen gilly box before gilley knows how to fight i don't know how this one will go

and johnny manzell obviously if you go to the nfl you're a fucking top tier athlete but they always said he was too small for the nfl anyways yeah i mean he's not that much bigger than gilly is this something that we We think we'll see Logan, the Paul brothers, get behind. What Johnny was on that side.

He said, let's set up the fight, which I, after, I thought it was kind of weird when he just butted in and said, I'll slap the shit out of you. But once he said, like, let's actually set the fight up, I was like, I respect it. I mean, you're not just tweeting. I mean, listen, for the, for the right, for the right pay day. I mean, we know Gilly ain't ducking it. No. Gilly, he'll get in the ring with Johnny Mansell for the right. Gilly did it.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Barstool. But he can't throw his own boxing event. Can he? Like, isn't that, like, kind of inside trader?

Literally, every Mayweather fight was money, money boy productions or whatever the shit was. He was paying his opponent. That's how, that's how ill Floyd Mayweather was as a businessman. Like, he was paying his opponent. They got their check, win or lose. Well, all losses because he's undefeated, but from Floyd Mayweather LLC. I see. When the documentary come out some years, they would like some niggas took the fall for that

I'm just saying when you are promoting the fight and paying the fighter you leave room for that speculation for them to be like yo you was paying these fighters like how we know you wasn't paying them to lose I'm just saying you leave room for that speculation but we're also talking about Floyd probably the best defensive boxer ever without a doubt

without a doubt I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if 10 years from now we get a documentary where one of the fighters they fought come out and say yeah no they paid me a little extra to just you know take it easy The only time Zab almost got him I thought that was like one of the only fights

he was going to lose But other than that Mayweather's one pretty Zab Zab caught him with one And Zab caught him And Shane Mosley

Caught him Yeah as well Shane caught him with One of the cleaner Punches I think That was And Ricky had in a few rounds Kind of look like

It may go the other way But I don't know I'm not Mannie Mannie caught him With some clean ones too Yeah

He didn't fight Mani When Mani was Mani No I mean, well, you know, that's a... Mani had been laid out on the canvas. Three times before that. The documentary. The documentary will wait to see.

Well, yeah, I can't make any sense of this. I will be ringside if Johnny Mansell and Gilly fight, though. I will definitely go to that fight. See, that's going to be funny to watch. That's just going to be funny. Yeah, I bet on money. On Johnny Mansell and Gilly? I would say Gilly.

Without seeing what Johnny Mansell walks in the ring looking like, like, like if he's in shape, if he's like... How much time... Two months. Oh, I'm taking Gilly. Okay. But I mean, boxing is an art, like, even if you're...

Yeah, if you're a world-class fighter. Like... Yeah. This is not the Des Bryant-Kenneth fight. I'm so, like, in a boxing ring, just you got to know how to box, or you will get chipped up, like, no matter how strong you are. Two months? Nah.

Gilly been boxing his old life? Yeah. Yeah, but Johnny is probably... bigger than Gilly, we can assume, yes. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not, you know, he has the advantage there. Size, strength. I don't care how Toyota are if you've never seen an angle.

Like, you know, I get that, but I'm just saying, size, strength. Let Gilly swing his foot one time and give Johnny an angle he's never seen. That's true. Yeah, I'm going Gilly. I'll watch it, though. I'll definitely tune in for that. I would definitely want to see that. And, like, I watched the doc.

Johnny was getting thrown out of house parties. He's just fucking civilian small names spitting in his face. Get the fuck out of our house party and Johnny's just leaving. Nah, he's, Gilly from Philly, no. You couldn't do that with Tanner and Ohio. Yeah.

Well, back to this Jalen Hertz, Cam Newton thing. Now, why do people, why are people, like, so upset about that? Like, saying that Jalen, like, that Gilly said Jalen, Jalen Hertz is better than, than Cam.

I don't know if I'm on the side of that, honestly. I don't know if Jalen Hertz is a better quarterback than Cam Newton. I don't think he is. But I mean, if someone said it, I wouldn't want to slap the shit out of them. Now, now, granted, Jalen Hurts won a Super Bowl. But again, that goes to, speaks to a better team, you know, that healthy. Cam got to the Super Bowl, didn't win it.

But y'all know how I feel about it. I think Cam Newton is the greatest college football player ever, in my opinion. I don't think I've ever seen a college football play better than Cam Newton. Again, him winning that national championship with Auburn, beating Alabama. still don't know how he pulled that off with that team he had versus Alabama. Insane. He got to the Super Bowl, didn't win it, didn't, you know, didn't leave with the jury, but Cam Newton had a great professional career.

What are we talking about? No, he can't, but this is what I'm saying. I don't, just because you want it. Now, I get it. When you win the Super Bowl as a quarterback, you get to talk a little, you know, in the locker room with the other quarterbacks. You talk slick. You show that jury.

It's a different, it's a different level when you get to show that jewelry. All right. Derek Fisher, incredible point guard. I don't think he's better than Iverson, just because he has the rings. Yeah, but that's not a fair... I could have said Mario Chalmers. I'm trying to find, like, Derek...

But Al and I... A quality point guard. But Cam Newton was League MVP. Iverson's been that. Yeah. Jalen Hertz, was he League MVP as well? Yeah, yes. League MVP.

Twice, right? Or just once? They're both great. I just side with Cam. I really, honestly, wouldn't be mad at... either side, but I don't know Jalen Hurtz is a better quarterback than Cam Newton. I think that if we have Cam Newton and Jalen Hertz on the draft board at the same time, knowing what we know right now, like, who you're taking? I just seen Cam Newton do more with less.

So I'm going to have to go with Cam Newton. Okay, who do you think is better DJ Quaker, Dr. Dre? Blackthotter, Jay-Z. This has been a wild week. Like, quiet as kept, because we had so much fun this weekend, we didn't. discuss how insane the internet has been in the last five, six, seven days? I will say this. In regards to the DJ Quick, Dr. Dre thing, because I did see somebody tweeted, The Art of Dialogue page tweeted, DJ Quick reacts and agrees with a fan who says he's legendary,

producer, everyone thinks Dr. Dre is. So somebody says, DJ Quick is actually who everyone thinks Dr. Dre is, and Quick responded with finally someone had the balls to say it. I thought Quick and Dre weren't a good place now. I know there's been some ups and downs, but I thought everything was all good now. You can still be in a good place and just when somebody says something that I think a lot of the industry, a lot of artists, a lot of other producers have known to be true. But just like on Twitter, that felt like resent, like, you don't do that unless you dislike that person. It wasn't like in an interview where we were having a healthy music debate. And Quick was like, yo, I don't think I get my problem.

Because DJ Quick is a legend and the reason why the Westmore sound even sounds the way it sounds. incredibly underrated. Yeah. Incredibly underrated. So I think that someone has the boss to say apart was kind of like okay, so you've been waiting for somebody to say that. That's what it feels like. That's what it reads as,

okay, you've been waiting for somebody to finally say what a lot of people behind the scenes have been saying for years and have had conversations about. When you say better, okay. Dr. Drey probably is credited. with more hit records. Yes. Right?

With more classic albums. But then you get to the conversation of how much of that is credited to Drey that he actually did versus Quick. I told you. Funny story. Hop always says about DJ Quick is he's the only guy I've ever been in the studio with who I've seen touch every knob on the soundboard. Literally touched every single.

And you know he built that equipment too. Yeah, yeah. You've been in a few studios. Do you know how many knobs are? And Hop said, yo, I was in the studio a quick. He touched every knob on the soundboard. Yeah. I have been in studios where full orchestras were playing,

and every single line knob was attached to every single instrument, and they were still only using one or two. Exactly. They didn't need the other 17 above it. Right. It made beautiful lights. Yeah. But you like, but to see somebody, I mean,

I think that quick probably is alluding to, you know, people say Dr. Dre has a lot of ghost producers, a lot of things he hasn't produced, but has his name on. It's just him having some younger, hungrier guys in the studio. And then, you know, they just want to work and get paid for it. They don't care if they get credited for it. That's been to talk for some years.

I hear my thing. Like, all right. Yes, Dr. Dre has definitely collabed with other producers. For sure. Like, still Dre. He's one of my favorite Dre beats, but that's Scott Storch on the piano. But, like, I don't think that's a bad thing. Dre has proven that he is a legend by himself as well.

100%. So I always find that those types of stats when you're, you're having these debates kind of weird. Like, so what was Dre supposed to do? You shouldn't grow his sound and, like, work with other people? Dre has proven to you he can do this by himself. Yeah.

Now, the rapper conversation, I'm not even having that one. This is just strictly production. Yeah. Now, would Dre's sound be the same if DJ Quick never existed? That's a conversation, I think. Mm-hmm.

That could be had here. And is, should be credited to DJ Quick. I don't think we get the Dre sound without DJ Quick setting the tone of what the West Coast sound was. Yeah. At the time. Now, better.

Dre's just had a longer career with bigger artists. Like, unfortunately, that is also a stat to me as well. Absolutely. Like global fucking music. Absolutely. No, I'm sorry. Dre is better. But I don't think he's Dre without Quick.

I think you definitely need DJ Quick in order to have a Dr. Dre. I think, you know, people who don't know DJ Quick, don't know his work, don't know what he's done in the industry. please go do your homework on them. You'll be very surprised to know that some of your favorite songs he produced. Now, when you say better, I think that's, that comes down to taste. If we go with what you prefer, things like that. Like, you know, that's for people to always argue. Like, I can't tell you what you're supposed to like.

But I'm just going from a, you know, just a producer standpoint. I do feel like DJ Quick is definitely underrated as a producer. Yeah. He doesn't get, he doesn't get talked about enough when we start talking our legendary producers in hip hop and music. We don't talk about DJ Quick enough. So I do understand, you know, why he may fill away because he kind of gets overlooked a lot, not kind of, he gets overlooked a lot when it comes to conversations in the culture about

the greatest producers of all time. DJ QuickName needs to be in those conversations a lot more. Yeah, like, I mean, do I think Premier would say Molly Moore, probably like inspired him. Sure. But I think Freem's better. Yeah. But Marley's still a legend and Havix drums wouldn't sound the same if it wasn't

for him. Like he, he's just like the genesis of the whole thing. So you have to give him that credit. But I mean, Drey took it to a way different level. From R&B to pop to hip hop, like it's, I thought it's Dr. Yeah. Like I don't really know what to tell you. Now, in the same breath, Will I am?

Was he promoted? What is Will I am doing? I don't know, man. I just always laughed whenever people find a way to mention Jay Z's name. Like, Jay, and this is how you know. And sometimes you just got to step back and just look at the common fact in a lot of these conversations and debates. There's a reason why they always go to Jay's name. I think it's because we all know that, yes, Jay Z is the greatest rapper of all time.

Anytime you start talking about who's better than who, they're always going to say, Some somebody's better than Jay-Z because Jay-Z is the bar. I think we all know that whether you want to recognize that or not. I mean, Jay-Z is the greatest rapper of all time. You can have your preference of who you like and Black Thought is amazing. But to say, for Will I am to say that Black Thought is a trillion-time better rapper than Jay-Z, I mean, come on, Will I am. Like, I get it, Black Thought is we, he's on our alien list.

100%. incredible MC, incredible rapper. Jay is, I'm sure, is a huge fan of Black Thought, has worked with him before. Like, you know, he has respect, a ton of respect for him. But when you say a trillion times, like, that's just, now you're just, you know, that's when, because you can say, I think Black Thought is a better rap than Jay Z. And I don't think that that stings as much as he's a trillion times better. That's like sounding like Jay is where he's a dog shit rapper.

Yeah. The funniest part of his statement was when he was like, Don't get me wrong. Jay is dope. Like, oh, thanks. Thanks, William. Yeah, like, we needed that confirmation. Like, okay, glad you said it. I know. I think Jay Z is dope. Yeah. But he's trillion times worse than fucking Black Thought. Right. How do you gauge it then? His top five rappers, Rock Kim, Big Daddy King, K. Kras, one, Nah,'s, Black Thought. Not mad at this list whatsoever. That's your preference. Jay Z is a top. All right. So we're just talking rap, rap, rap, rap, rap. I still think Jay and Black Thought are comparable there. But are we adding in all the other factors to? Black Thought does have hits. I'm not saying he doesn't. That was call back to Will I. I got it.

I got it. I got what you was doing there. What are we talking about? Again, preference and taste is all, you know, that's who you are. I'm not, you know, Will I am is a, is a, is a, is a legendary musician, artist, you know what I'm saying? Like, he knows what he likes. He knows a lot more about music than I probably do. So I'm not arguing his taste level.

He does. Yeah, I'm not arguing his taste level. But. Then anyone in this room combined. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not arguing will I am's taste level. It's just the trillion times better that I'm just like, that just, you got to understand how that just smells and feels like disrespect to Jay-Z. And let's not act like all of us haven't held a bit of resentment towards Will I Am for the last 15 years.

There was a time he was quietly ruining music. And I think he's a legendary producer. I think he's an incredible musician. I think he's one of the ones of our generation. but when he started doing that watered down electronic pop music with black IPs I mean I resented him the same way I resented Nori for reggaeton like you were so good and like now now I have this that's just spilling over into every genre of music I don't even think we get to the Ron Brow's era without Will I am making pop music sound that

awfully electronic that was like when they were doing let's get retarded in here is when I think music took a shift pop music specifically and had to get saved around 2010. It was so fucking bad. I'm not saying what the black eyepie's was doing bad. The result of everyone trying to copy that awful sound. Yeah. Oh my God. Pop was so fucking. I mean he gave us one of the greatest New Year songs ever though. I got a feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night. You can't bring in a new year without turning that on. It's not even a new year if you don't listen to that. I'd probably leave that party. Probably through the balcony exit. I'm taking the window. I'm taking the window. If that were to play at midnight,

that would probably be, oh, all right, this was my last year. I knew it. Yeah, yeah, I'll take the window. Yeah, yeah, I'll take the window. I mean, it's going to sound like hater shit because the black IPs are legendary and they have a great catalog. Yeah, but Will I am, you got to cut the shit, man. You got, then he had that song with him and Nikki. it was just getting to a weird place with Will I Am. That one of the futuristic, anytime an artist tries to do their space futuristic phase is usually when I check out. Yeah. And all of our favorite producers have probably tried that.

Well, I am. You can't say that Black Dota's a trillion times better rapping than Jay-Z. You can't say that. That's just disrespectful. That's definitely, that was intended with disrespect. And he knows that. You can't say a trillion times. You can't.

That's just disrespectful. Is there, do we think there's something there? Or Will I am in Jay-Z? Yeah. It seems like everybody, it seems like it's something near with everybody in Jay-Z. Like it's something near. Jay-Z has ruined everybody's lives as far as everybody is concerned. Like, Jay-Z is the reason why everybody either doesn't have a platinum record,

either doesn't have a successful relationship, either doesn't have a successful sports franchise. Like, Jay-Z is the reason behind everyone's failures. So it seems if you let people tell it. There's got to be something. Did he sign Fergie or something? No, no. But then again, I don't know. Maybe.

It could just be his opinion. No, I know. Yeah, but your opinion, you can't say a trillion times better. People tend to exaggerate that one. Yeah, but that's disrespect. You can't do that when it comes to Jayzee as the rapper. You can't disrespect Jay like that. We've all been podcasting and doing media long enough to know.

to know when somebody says something, there's something that we don't know that's attached to it. Yeah. Like you don't just say that. There's got to be some history shit. There's something there. Nobody knows.

Maybe only them to know. Maybe Jay passed on a record. There has to be something. Yeah. He said he was going to do a feature, didn't do it. There's always something, I promise you. There's always something behind the words

that people say. And I totally get why people will always say, I'm sure everything always has to do with a woman, that's usually why men beef, you're not wrong. But there are also fragile male ego shit, like you said he was going to do a feature for me, and then you didn't. And I didn't even look into what was going on in your life.

Like maybe he had a death in the family. But you're just holding on a resentment because you just think this person played you. Yeah. I can see that. Either way, I mean, I like Black Thought. Well, I love Black Thought as a rapper in the MC. One of my favorites for sure. But obviously, to me and to many others, I think it is clear that Jay-Z is the greatest

rap of all time. Bryce and Tiller, The Vices is out. I'm looking forward to this anytime. I think Bryce and Tiller is one of the artists that his discography is incredible. I don't think Bryce and Tiller has ever put out a terrible project. For the most part, all of his projects are dope, a bunch of joints on there. And it's always good to see artists that we like, that we've listened to over the years, still be relevant, still be able to put out good work.

I'm looking forward to the Vices. Also, going to announce the last one that is out as well right now. a very quick announcement. Did that not throw y'all off a little bit? I mean, Gunna's been putting up crazy numbers since he's been home. Like, I didn't expect him to just throw something out. I felt like that would have been a longer rollout of how important, you know, Gunna is to the label music period right now. Yeah.

Because he's doing numbers, numbers since he got out. Yeah. To just throw some shit out. Gunner's been through a lot, man. He's been through a lot of ups. Like, you know, he had his moment where it looked like he was. being exiled from the culture. Nobody was fucking with him.

Came home, put out a dope project, hit the gym, got in shape, and back with another album. Sold out shows, had baby decrying at the Barclays. Shout out the gunner, man. He was able to overcome that moment. Okay. He's got a Whisk Kid, Burnin' Boy.

Do we think there's going to be a different type of sound? Oh, we're going to shake ass. Whisk Kid and Burner Boy? This features, yeah. Yeah, I can see this being an ass-shaking album. For sure. But that's a lot of drops tomorrow. Yeah, I'm excited.

Jay Gunner, Bryson-Tiller. Which one are you listening to first? At midnight tonight. We're recording this on August 7th. At midnight. Bryson? I got to go brison. Too late to hear rap.

I'm trying to settle down for the night. Moore don't like rap at night. More don't like rap. More than more don't like rap. And more don't like rap. I love rap. Rap, like real rap. Like, Jid is rap.

I'm definitely going to listen to Jid, but I don't know if I'm listening to Jid at midnight. So in between hours of 2 p.m. and like 8 p.m. commute. Like around like 12, 1, 2, 3, the hours up until like 10. And then after that, we're going to mellow down. We're going to R&B after 10 p.m. All right, Ma, Ma, you're saying that. But there was the rumor, which I think is confirmed now, that the Vices Disc 1 that comes out tomorrow is a full rap album.

he's putting out too. And the first one comes out tomorrow, and that's supposed to be a full rap album. Boss Mandilo, Rick Ross, T. Payne, Plows, Bumby, baby drill, like, yeah, I think there's going to be more of a rap album than Jids is going to be by your midnight standards. All right.

Is it just uptempo? Bunby on it? It's rap on it, and Tiller has the hook. And maybe a bridge, or is it like Bryson rapping? This is how I know y'all not. Bryce is. He's a rapper. Bryson rapped on so much of trapsoe.

And he's very good too. Like Rambo, he's rapping rap. Like he wrapped on a lot of trapsoe. Nobody, I'm not saying Bryce until it can't wrap. But just when you tell me he has a disc, he's dropping a double disc and one disc is him all rapping. Yeah. With rappers, I'm a little concerned. Now, if it's just him and it's on a record, it's an uptempo and he's, you know, in his melodic rap shit, oh, we know that that's his fadeaway.

We know that, but is it that or is he like trying to give us bars? Like, Bryson, he ain't trying to metaphor you and bar you down. He got flows, he got melodies, but if he on there trying to stand toe to toe with Rick Ross, I'm going to be a little disappointed. I mean, but what if he does a good job? I don't doubt that Bryceon can do that. If it's the melodic Bryson, where it's like that, it's like... Why do you think that he can't rap, rap?

That's what I'm asking you. Rambo, he's rapping. I'm not saying I don't, I just don't want that from Bryson Tiller. Why? Give us, give us, go, don't go away from the mid-range. He's going to do a second disc, though. And also, wouldn't you say, like, even where Gunna has even gone is, like, full melodic rapping.

That's kind of everybody now. So for somebody has a pen like Bryson, yeah, I wouldn't mind him leaning more into the rap shit. No melodic, just straight ball you down like Ross? Everything for the most part now is melodic outside of it. the legacy. That's what I'm saying. If he's doing that, great. I'm saying if he's on it rapping like how Ross rap, Ross wrote, Ross tone rapping no melodies. He's giving you straight bars. If Bryson is doing that, I'm just to, you know, it's just kind of like I'm going in with a little apprehensiveness. Like, ah. Did you hear his feature on Keanu the Day's album gone?

How long ago was that? It sounds like it was. Two years ago? Two years ago, maybe. One of the best verses of the year. He's rapping on that, but yes, it is very much melodic. I wanted to use that as an example. If he's saying there's going to be a rap album, I think it'll be even more rap than what that feature was. That was very melodic, but he still has bars. I'm scared.

I'm not. I'm not scared, actually. If it's melodic, he in his bag. That's his bread butter. But if it's just Bryson on there, he's trying to bar, bar you down, like kiss, I'm going to be like that. I can't hear him be melodic with boss man Delo.

Why not? Absolutely. I can't hear it. I mean, with Bumby, shit, Pimsy to me was melodic. Bum B's melodic to me. No, but you know the melodic I'm talking about. I know, but shit, PimC was. Yeah, but I don't know.

I'm a little, I thought this was Bryce and Tiller going back to, you know, giving us that R&B, that bag. But I mean, listen, man. Yeah, double this. This is just the first one. One thing I will say, Bryce in this game, I trust as an artist. I trust him as an artist. Yeah. I actually think Bryson is very much underrated with his discography.

He got a lot of slack for his follow-up, I think after Trap Sole and mixed reviews on one after that. I think everything he's put out is great. His last album was crazy. I really fucked with Bryson and I don't know where the disconnect has been at least. I only speak to the social media world, like where people have started to doubt Bryson. Was it because Trap So was just like the biggest thing ever that year and the only way he can go from there as town. Like, I've never understood why people keep overlooking the quality music that Bryson

keeps putting out. Well, I think at this point now, maybe after his second album, but I'm talking about at this point now, I don't think it's that it was because of Trapsol. I think that the people who are really pushing music or paying attention to music right now barely remember Trapsol, like they were younger. Like, I don't think the young kids, he doesn't mean as much to them. Yeah. But even like the buildup of him being the next guy, going from Trappie.

soul to then the Khalid and Rihanna record which I was a timeless record like that could play now it'd be fine yeah but there was a gap he was set well he was setting up to be the guy and then he took a break I mean didn't he get married or something something happened where he like took a break when I think he did when the was going and then he put out an album that just didn't have a single that worked but I thought it was a dope album they got to join on there with Drake that's fire that I just for some reason I don't know if it was if it was label not working it, but I don't know. I'm excited for this price and shit,

and I love that it's a double disc. Do you think he's mad that having plows, T-Pain, is he going the route, the nostalgia route that Metro just went with features like that? I hope not. From the same era.

Like, we're all the same age. When I see those two combined, to me that feels like you're trying to do a 2000s thing if you'd have plows and T-pain together on your song. Plas. Why you keep saying plows? I don't know why. You're going to do something?

Yeah, maybe. Okay. Do you got, speaking of Metro's album, did you guys like it? No. Huh? No. Is that out of loyalty or like actual adelaity? They played like four records in here and Pige told me the whole album sounds like that and I was

like, I can't listen to that. I understand what he's doing though. They say he wants some music to go back regional and keep things like if you're from Atlanta, your music should sound like, I respect that. But that sound wasn't. Well, yes, it was regional. Don't get me wrong. That's Atlanta all day.

But it went everywhere. Yeah, no. And I get that. And that's cool. But I just, listen, man, everything is just not for me. I can't hear that.

I don't, I don't even know where to play that. Definitely not playing that in the crib. Not playing that on the drive. Like, where am I playing that at? Somebody, that's for somebody.

Somebody's going to love that and play that somewhere at a day party. Something like, you know, they're going, they're going to have fun with it. I'm just saying me personally, I think Metro was dope, but I'm just saying that album, I can't, that music is not, it's not for me. I mean, it was, I haven't gotten through the entire thing. And without getting through the entire thing, my point is, did it need to be a double disc? Like, again, I get it. You're doing the nostalgia shit. This was what I was listening to in high school, into freshman year college. Like, I love Roscoe Dash. I love Travis Porter. Here in Gucci, they, they're doing the nostalgia.

They want to have fun. Like, I like that record a lot. Do we need, what is this? 25 records of this sound? Like, this could have been a really, because, you know, Metro does really good EPs, whether we would Sean Quavel. Like, he just throws out, he has a high volume.

Like, he puts out a lot of shit. Do we need this much of this sound? Like, could it be an E. I don't, I would really appreciate an EP of this type of shit based off my age and, in the era that this music came out, I can really appreciate it. It's nostalgic to me.

Love Waka. Like, all this shit is great, but why 25 fucking songs of this? Yes. Like, for what? It's too much. There's a such thing as too much. For me, again,

somebody's going to love it. Somebody's going to be excited to hear that sound again and go back to that time. You know, I'm more on the side of, you know, give me something more current, give me something that we probably didn't get.

You know what I mean? Change the sound a little bit. Like, on that side of it. Like, I respect what he did. And I think it makes sense to try to get music back to a place where it's more regional. You represent where you from more instead of, you know, everybody being on social media and try to chase what the wave is.

It's like, no, stay in your corner, stay in your pocket, do what you do. I respect that. I'm just saying not to this extent, 25 tracks of that sound from, was it, like, 05, Yeah. 06, 04, maybe around there. line. 04 to 06? Yeah, don't take me 20 years back.

Don't do that. Like, give me something that we didn't get was like, oh, this is crazy. This is innovative. This is, you know what I'm saying? Give me that before you take me back 25 tracks of a sound from 20 years ago. I didn't put it, it's spent on it a little bit. Like, I liked that it was hosted by DJ too. I went back to that era.

Yeah, I get it. It's very nostalgic. This is my theory. I can't prove this. Why this is 25 records is because I think, and there's no disrespect to that era, because I love that era. I got pussy for the first time in that era It's a special place

Special place in my fucking heart This was this sound was High School dances Part like that was our shit I think Metro Found out how fucking easy it was To make those type of beats And that's why we have 25 of them

I think he made every one of these beats He said oh my God With the stuff The technology we have now I could make this beat in five seconds Yeah That's what I think happened because Metro, if you go back to his last album

and the one with Future as well, like how intricate Metro's beats are incredible. Metro can do this shit when he's taking a shit on the toilet. That's why I think there's so much here because he found out that sound is extremely easy to make in this era. Like Abel's, Dave's doing that shit on fruity loops, everything like that.

It took some time. Listen, you could do this shit in five minutes and Abelton. I'm not saying it's bad. And Quick doesn't mean bad. But that's why I think, I think Metro had an idea and just kept pumping out like 10 beats a day with this sound because it's so easy to fucking make. Yeah, I'm cool, though. But respect to him.

You know what I'm saying? He's obviously one of the most talented producers we have and things like that. But this project is just not for me. That's all. I had another bit of a viral moment last year when we were talking about Drake in regards to, you know, people calling him a culture vulture and things like that. And in one of my rants, I said, if it wasn't for Drake, we might not have never even know who the Migos was. That was in regards to me saying when Drake remixed, was it Versace?

Yeah. I fought with Drake. That's my boy. Shit, that's my man. He stopped niggas and put it in. And he don't just do that, though. He don't just do that, though. He stopped and he still fuck with niggas.

Right, right. But people didn't understand what I was saying. They were saying, like, I was trying to give Drake all the, but it was. But it was like, no, but one of the biggest artists remixed a record from a group that was making noise and was known in Atlanta and kind of bubbling around the country a little bit in different pockets. Man, shit's down the different type of way. I'm the artist. That's coming from, that's coming from offset. It stamped the Migos.

So y'all can stop killing me every time that clip goes viral and say, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Offset, because they be trying to say, like, they're going to be great regardless, we're going to be great regardless, but you can't. skipped us down. Yeah. No, it definitely changed the Versace record for sure. That shit was just down.

And then I saw Coach K on, he was doing the interview somewhere where he basically reiterated that like, nah, when Drake did that.

He just did that on the love. Like, he fucked with the record and it was just like, yeah, one ain't no sucker shit involved. Like, give me all the record

behind the scene. Like, I own everything because I'm doing it no, but it reached out. I know we went from doing the E type show

to the E type show. Shit changed. She changed up. I don't know what. That was what, 2014? 15. 14. 14.

What was that like that day? 2013 was Bando. That was Atlanta shit. Yeah. That was bubbling on. Yeah, I mean, Bando made it up to New York a little bit.

A little bit, right? Towards the end of 2013, I think. Then when that, then we dropped in Versacee. Then we did birthday. I'm in jail, by the way, did birthday bash. Yeah.

And then when buddy got on there, my fuck, went to the moon. Yeah. And after that, it was, it was like. What was that call like when you got like like like break vocals. I was in a bad

situation. Mm-hmm. I was, I heard it like, that word heard it. Yeah. When they were fucking came out, like,

like over the phone. Damn. You locked up and you hear that verse? Yes, sir. Oh, those walls got smaller. You couldn't wait to get out there. What?

Can't wait to get that motherfucker. That was like, that was like, yeah, and get rich dropped. Like, wait, hold on. You're the biggest art of time? Yeah, like I got to get the fuck out of here. What?

We're going crazy right now. Yeah, I heard that's something. Phone. Now, we and Rory went to the Scorpion show when y'all on tour with Drake, and I remember telling Rory when we left, I said, I always knew the Migos had records and they was dope and, you know, all of that. But seeing y'all perform that set list on the Scorpion tour, for me, it gained a different level of respect for y'all because I was like,

yo, Dave was doing back to back to back to back hit records. Hour long, too. The entire set. There wasn't no opening 15 minutes after you. No, no, no, no. They could have easily headlined a tour like that. But is that a testament to just y'all always knowing that, yo, we dope, we're going to be who we are. And when the time comes, everybody a catch on?

Yeah, that's been the story of our shit since the beginning of the time. Y'all always been caught on a lake and catch on late. I'd be liking that shit, though, because I feel like the shit that hit fast, go faster. Oh, yeah, it fades quick. Especially now. Yeah, they get over it super quick, super quick. Like, I rather start from 25 on Billboard and clowning the number one, and then go number one, and then next week I'm 98.

I rather do that because that being the record, I ain't sticking. Yeah. It's just some hype. Right. That hype should be down now. Yeah, and that's actually working the record. As one of the more fashionable guys in the culture, being from Atlanta now, Yaddy had some things to say about New York

and its fashion sense a few months ago, and the internet kind of killed them. You spend a lot of time in New York. You do a lot of shopping in New York. Being from Atlanta, where do you feel like which city has more sense of fashion and style and taste between New York and Atlanta? I'm going to say it like this. You can't never play with New York. Okay. Ever. It's just, it's a, it's the brains. It's the mecca. It's the mecca. Yeah. It's the mecca. Now, we got sauce and like drip. Okay. Okay. Lingo. How we do it. How we kill it.

I feel like if I want to show, I'm going to come to New York for sure. Ain't no plan. But I'm not going to copy how a New York nigga dress, though. Okay. You ain't going to put it on. You ain't going to put it together the same way. I ain't going to put it together the same way. Okay, got you.

I'm going to respect it. Now, I would never say, what was the question? What did they ask him? And then he said, he said Atlanta. He got exactly what Yadi said. It was some shit like who's flyer people from New York. And then they pulled up a million photos of him dressing just like DMX. Yeah.

And it was just like, all right, Yadi. I mean, I fuck with guys. That's my brother. That's my brother. Hey, yeah. I've been seeing that. You can't say New York doesn't dress better than Atlanta. And all these photos is you just taking influence from New York fashion.

Yeah. But, I mean, I get it. Atlanta's put their, their sauce on. We are out of the sauce. Sometimes we're having sauce, man. But it's a cheat coat now. And I always say this with social media. Because before social media, if you was fly in your city,

it was because you really went and looked for pieces. You really put pieces together. Now with social media, I could just follow offset and be like, yo, what hoodie offset got on? I'm gonna go get that. Yo, what shorts offset got on? I'm gonna go get that. Yo, how he did his socks with the laces and all that.

It's easier to bite. It's easier now. But that doesn't mean it, shit, fashion means also like cologne. It's gonna smell different on everybody. For sure. Like, you could copy somebody's whole fit and you could look nuts in it.

Absolutely. Yeah. We see the mannequins that got the whole Belantiaga. You were supposed to go to Belenciaga all the way to have. Yeah, bro. You want to fuck do that. Find the one. parts you like. Yeah.

I don't like that. I don't like niggas to go print crazy too. Yeah. Grab some pieces here and there and then, like you said, sauce, how you throw it together? How you throw it together? Yeah. Because there ain't no rules in this shit. Right. So it's just, it's a free book. Some niggas, I hate manic, I'd be called niggas mannequin challenge. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. I just said that about Vlad yesterday. Nigel straight. Louis, every time. Louis shoe, Louis, socks, pants, belt.

That's nasty. You literally just walked in and said, let me get that. Yeah. That's nasty work. Before we let you get out of here, we do have fans and listeners that call in and ask for advice, tell us stories. We want to do one quick voicemail with you so we give a fan advice. You've got mail. How is going, gang? Fuck with the pod. I need to come down to Louisiana for a live show year.

You know, I'm a beat-up. But the reason I was hitting a little bit of me is because a nigger needs some advice, you know. Now, I don't have been around the block a few times. You know, I'm not new to this. He sounds stressed. But I still like to hear different perspectives. So, Charlie, I'm talking to him. You know, I love a love of my life type shit.

Like, you know, our interests a line, our morals, line, everything. Like, we good and everything good, everything pure, everything great. Except one problem. Trust issues. She got trust issues and they are bad. Now, I know where they stem from. Like, she ain't had the best, like, you know what I'm saying? She's been through a lot.

And one of the things I love about is her perseverance, like how she still such a great person after dealing with all the stuff that she's been through in life. But that caused this issue, you know? And she needs therapy, but that's a whole other conversation. We ain't about to have no time.

But I'd be chilling, bro. I don't be doing nothing wrong. Like a nigga, I don't text nor other bitches. I don't fuck with the other bitches. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm not on there. Like, I'm off there. I want a real relationship or whatever, you know?

So basically, like, how would you all deal with that without, I don't want to break up with her. Like, she'd be trying to go through a nick of phone. Like, she went through my phone. She don't find anything, but it's still, oh, you must be hiding something. You must delete messages. Like, it's all kind of bullshit. And I just, I don't want to break up with her, but I'm a nigger's kind of tired of it, yo. May I leave.

Yeah, it feels like, it sounds like she's already, like, just way too insecure and it's not going to get no better. If she's going through your phone and she don't find nothing and she still feel like you hiding something, She got to do the work by herself Get up out of there, man. Get up out of there. He said, do he got trust issues? No, she has. She has some more.

Her past has those. So she'd be going through his phone. Yeah. Going through his shit. He'll be doing nothing. He said he's chilling. No hose. I'm saying, though.

He had to do something. Is it like a past? Well, her previous relationships. She'd been through some shit before. Now they're dating. Sometimes people do that off guilt. to the, Oh yeah,

what's she doing? What she got going on? Check her phone. That's, that's y'all responds out the gate. No, I don't check her phones,

but I'm just saying like she keep pressing to hear about that. Why is she checking his phone? He sounds, he sounds like he's really in love with her. He sounds like he wanted to be with her,

but he's like she making it hard. Like, damn, I'm not fucking around. Why you keep pressing me about this? They don't want my advice. No, no. They want your advice. Trust me. He don't want that.

He doesn't want yours. As soon as he hits his advice. Like, hell yeah, I'm rolling with that. So what does all say tell a gentleman like that? What you tell her? She's too like. She's too secure. Maybe you got out.

You make her feel a little bit more secure, and I mean, maybe. Okay. Maybe you, maybe you, the trauma, look at the trauma she's been through and try to do the opposite of that. Yeah. Maybe that can help, but I don't know.

I hear that, but I'm not changing my whole life for you to look through my phone I'm like I'm on fucking parole every night because you went through some shit before me. Like I'm just not really... I can't pay for his other guy. Yeah, like... To me, that's odd

because I'm not going to go through your phone. Right. To me, that's... If she don't work on that shit by herself, I would leave. Because that's only going to get word. You can't care that shit just by showing your phone every fucking night.

Right. What the fuck? I didn't do anything. Yeah. Is that one of your things, though? Never go through a woman's phone? Even if you feel like there may be some shit going on. Like, you just never.

Like, I'm never. doing it. I ain't going to say I've, I've done it. But do you find what you was looking for? That shit hurt. You just no, actually, don't find nothing. That's what hurts. When you don't find nothing. Explain that. When you don't. It hurt as a man. Like, that's some lame ass like after you, when you, when you, when you thought you do some shit that ass, you're like, what the fuck? Like, why would I even, I'm plagued myself? You go in and following. My fuck, ain't nothing in there? Yeah.

Damn. I'm lame. And then you just sitting that lame in head going through the girl fine. All right. Now, do you talk, you went through it and you didn't find nothing? Or you just just tucked that and be like, damn, that's fucking corny. I did some corny shit. It's so corny. You got to tuck that.

There's no winning going through a phone. There's no winning going through a phone. You're going to find something you don't like it. If you don't find something you don't think she deleted something. So now you're just walking around the house pacing like. Just don't get in the phone. Don't get in the phone. Stay away from the phones.

Don't go through no phones. I don't recommend going through no phones. Either you're going to find a reason to leave or find a reason to stay. Either way, don't do it. My ego can't handle it. one through a phone. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.