New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 9/15

Episode Date: September 21, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal, Dame Dash's Breakfast Club interview is an instant classic, Mal thinks Cam'ron was right to kick off Adrien Broner off his show for hitting on Stat Baby, Rory predicts the beginning of the end for Young Thug, and Rory and Mal recap Murda Mook vs Hitman Holla #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And very bravely, in 2025, was one of the only people that when you say something that has nothing to do with sexuality, he says, that's because you're gay. And then the torch was passed back to Dame in the crew. You earned, like, this is a legacy, this is a legacy of homophobia that I think is just incredible, that now they're taking your phrases. Who's on making them? I'm homophobic. Oh.

You know, I don't think you're homophobic. Okay. Did you watch this Dame Dash in Charlestowne? I watched it three times, right? This is the greatest show on Earth right now. Let me say Breakfast Club as well, because they were all there. This is probably the first interview I've watched twice in maybe five years. Yeah, I don't watch anything other than maybe a movie or a series.

When you talk about interviews and things like that, I watch clips and things like that. But this Dame Breakfast Club interview was just another one to add, because I think every time he's done it, it's a classic. I don't think he's ever done a breakfast club interview and he has the greatest breakfast club discography of all the time when he put out the first one was like how could he ever top that? Yeah, yeah.

No, this one. We didn't know what we had coming. So what exactly happened for the people that haven't watched it? Because I only seen a clip in the clip I saw what Charlemagne saying raise your hand if you think Dame is broke and I was screaming.

I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on in this interview? But I didn't watch the whole thing. Well, that was after an hour and a half of things being off the rails. And anytime Charlemaine said anything, Dane would say, well, that's because you're gay. So then Charlemagne at some point started to get, not frustrated.

He played into it well and was like, raise your hand if you think Dame is broke. And then Dame said, raise your hand if you think Charlemagne is gay. This was one of the crowd. Oh, I thought you was telling the room. Yeah, no, honestly. Oh, okay. Before we get into this, I would say, I apologize for some of my Charlemagne hate of the complex list. Yeah, this could put you at number one after this fucking interview.

This is the greatest shit I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Because even like before when Envy and Charlemagne, trying to talk or argue with Deng is one of the hardest things on earth. So the way they handled it of like really playing into it made it one of the greatest interviews I've ever seen in my entire life. But where do we even begin? Nothing was covered.

I just want to make that clear. We got no answers on anything. No real questions were asked. Dame became a chairman in the middle of calling somebody that has been on Revolt Gay. Everything was insane. He was standing up. He was, I was like, how is the mic even still picking him up? He's running laps around the table.

It was the craziest thing I have ever seen. It was cool because Dame, he went up there. Well, he had announcements. We don't know how true those announcements are, but he had announcements. and he wanted he wanted to use that as an opportunity for you know charlemagne or envy to say things that they may have said about dame when he wasn't there like okay let's let's talk about it now and dame you know he started it with you know i'm not going to get upset i'm not going to yell so like you know you're not going to trigger me like but just don't cut me off let me answer

so that you can understand what i'm saying so he went up there with the right energy he went up there with the energy to kind of like answer any you know things that they may have been saying about him saying he's broke and, you know, whatever, whatever, you know, they may have been saying. It's like, okay, so Dan was trying to explain, like, if I've been paying $250,000 a year in child support for the last however many years, is that person broke? Like, these are the things that, you know, so Dan, he went up there trying to teach them and say, you know, y'all don't know because y'all was stuck in this box and this coffin every day. So y'all don't know what's really going on.

You don't know business. So it started as trying to shed light on some of the things. that they may have been hearing about Dame in so many ways. I think that you and I both know some of the things that Dame is doing legally to where it's like, okay, you know, we get it. We understand. He was giving away a little too much on that down to the family office. I was like, hey, you know.

So, you know, it's like we understand, but I think he went up there just to have a come, but then in Dame fashion, it has to be entertained and it has to be, you know, him, you know, talking shit about somebody in the room, like snapping on him. It has to, that's Dame. And that's who he is. And it made for a great, another classic Dame Dash breakfast club interview. Now, some of the things he was saying, you know, his announcements with the chairman thing and all, you know, at Revolt, you know, then I guess the president of Revoltz might came out and said that that wasn't true. We don't know if he's saying it's not true, meaning it's not happening or it hasn't happened yet.

Maybe there are talks of it happening. But as of, I guess still today, I don't think that they've come out and may release a statement. saying that he is the chairman. So again, because so much dancing and manipulation was happening throughout the entire interview, he briefly said, which I don't know how to fully interpret, he was saying that he has a certain amount of time to buy it, I guess. Like he was the chairman, but there's only a window where he has, he has to make a choice of whether he's acquiring this or not.

Yeah. So I guess officially he wouldn't be, but it was offered. So if he wants to be, he could be. I'm not going to sit here and try to explain it because I didn't fully understand. But when they came out and said that was all false, I was like, I went back to that part. And that's where I think he was explaining. Like, he has a window. And if he wants to take it, he can take it.

If he doesn't, then he's going to move on. And I think he may have just taken, like when your house is an escrow. Okay. I think he may have took an escrow role at Revolt as the chairman, not officially, just so he could get back at Cam publicly. And I don't think he will be taking that remote chairman job. I think that was all just a play to be able to go to breakfast club and say, Cam, I'm your boss now. Yeah.

I thought he was going to have way more smoke for Envy. Outside of the first one, Envy was the one on Instagram last week in front of all his cars. Like, this is what not being a boss gets you after Dame had filed Chapter 11. I thought he was going to come with Envy smoke. I didn't know he was going to be calling Charlemagne gay for two hours. Yeah, he filed Chapter 11 or Chapter 7. A Chapter 7, I'm sorry. Okay.

But. Classic, though. How do you argue with somebody when, because even towards the end, Charlamagne tried to get it back on at least subject? How do you argue with someone, and when you ask a valid question, the only response they have at that point is it's because you're gay. The funniest thing was when in the beginning they were cutting dame off, but then they stopped and then Dane would ask them a question and they try to answer me like

stop cutting me off. It's like you just ask me a question. I'm answering your question. That shit is a classic though. That's a classic classic breakfast club. One thousand. Like the first, I saw a clip first and I said, oh no, I got to watch. Like I can't just watch clips.

I have to watch it because I knew just that energy that Dame had in that clip that I was watching and him calling Charlamagne Gay. I was just like, oh yeah, this is another classic about to have him. And this is why you just can't argue with anybody from Uptown. Because they have this strategy, and you do it too, where you get other people involved in the room that want nothing to do with it. And then they sit there awkwardly. Like, when he was arguing with Charlemagne, he went over to Jess. Jess hadn't said a fucking word yet.

I didn't argue with Charlotte. And I forgot exactly what it was. So I'll use an example. Jess, is he gay? Yes or no? Is he gay? And just like, I'm not, I don't, dudes from Uptown, that's how they argue in rooms.

They just bring in other people and be like, yo, yes or no. Like, dude, I'm not in this. I have no. Don't try to use me to prove your point. And then when you do that, they're like, see, see, he thinks the same thing. I mean, well, Envy said he thought Charlemagne was gay too, though. He just said, I think he's kind of gay too. So I think envy was being, like, funny.

Like, that's his co-host. Like, that's like, if Rory said that about one of us, like. Like, well, I mean, you are. And you are too, nigga, now what? He's gay? You can't steal James. He's not gay. You sound like you want me to convince you that he's not gay.

You sound like you want me to convince him. No, no, no, it's not that. You can't do that because you're actually gay. Like, that's on record. What? So, gay no gay. Are you trying to recruit me? Like, I don't know.

Rory's not on record doing gay shit. Like, don't do that. Don't even start that. So I'm not on record or off record. I was about to say so because he's off record. Not a single record. No, just. Well, no, for any of y'all, because at one time, I did get a lot of pussy, and I must have been gay at that time.

No, no. You wasn't getting the type of pussy. Like, you really, that's why you was trying to fend it. And I wanted to say in my head, Rory, you wasn't getting that type of pussy that we're talking about. Yeah, like, you wasn't, like, in a, see, we were saying, like, when you're in a healthy relationship and you just can't stop. Oh, no, we got off the relationship part. Then we were just going into just getting mad pussy. Like, if you just fuck a lot and, like, run through girls, you're gay.

That's, we did not say that. Oh, okay. Yeah, we left that. We were talking, we were talking about in a health relationship. You're a knock, cereal cheater. No, I'm saying just like, Ho Faze on tour. No, no, no.

That's not the same. Different city. Like we're saying, you have a queen in home. Just save her as Tennessee. We've all been there. Love Miss Tennessee. Love her. Miss, I wonder how she's doing in life.

But yeah, um, this Breakfast Club interview, though, definitely, definitely more for the right. Dame has, people say what they want. Dame has the ability to, like, sit on a platform

and like, you know, I guess, go viral whenever he wants. He has that. Like, he's, he's that type of personalities. He's, you know, he speaks about, he says whatever the fuck he wants to say. He's not apologetic about what he wants to say.

And then he says, you're like, I'm the chairman of revolt and people are just like, but revolt says you're not. And then he calls them liars. Yeah. Like, so he posted on his Instagram and says, this is a lot. Yeah. So it's like, you know, anybody that has the ability to do that, you know, then this is people are going to watch it.

People love that type of shit. where it's just like, yo, this dude is crazy. But Dame is not crazy. Dame is definitely very intelligent. His methods and the way he goes about things are a little unconventional, but he's had success in being unconventional. So that doesn't matter. Yeah.

I just think the fact that he was up there and, you know, it kind of got a little tension between him and Charlemagne is what kind of made that whole thing like, oh, no, I got to watch it. But I mean, they both handled it very well because it could have went left. liked how both of them had that understanding. Because even when Dane was like, I could punch you in your face right now, you would do nothing. I would never do that.

But you're feminine. Like, you're proud. You were proud of running. I'm proud of staying and get my ass whoop. Right. You're gay. It's like, wait, Dame. Yeah, you didn't do the math?

Like that's, yeah. You got to do the gay math. Yeah, like you ran it. I wouldn't. Yeah, you're gay. It definitely wasn't. Adrian Brano was being disrespectful because he was asked once, hey, her boyfriend's here. Please don't do that.

And then he kept doing it. Like that was, DG didn't do that. No, he didn't do that. It wasn't a disrespectful thing, no. So I love that Cam did this. I have two comments on it. Okay. Well, from what I see that people are comments on,

the number one thing that I'm seeing that people are commenting on is they're saying that Cam started, well, Cam started talking shit once Adrian was gone. Caught him a junkie and was popping shit. But when he was there, he said, you know, it's much love, my brother, respect to you. Thanks for coming by. Like, I love you. Now, you know, Adrian can fight, right? Like, you know, he's like.

No, I'm aware. Listen, I'm commenting on what people are on the internet, the backlash that I saw Cam get, right? How would y'all have handled that scenario? You don't have to use me as an example, but how would you guys? They were heading on Peach? How would you guys? So Agent Bruner comes in here. He's flirting with Peach.

And we're asking him to stop because Peach is the heterosexual. Have handled that scenario. The same way. But Adrian, Adrian, you got to be able to bro. Clearly, Adrian wasn't in the most clearest of minds. He looked like he probably was hanging out. it was fight just coming off a fight weekend in Vegas like he probably was a little intoxicated hungover party and so he and it looked like Adrian didn't even know he was going to be on the show

because he was like oh y'all y'all good like y'all got me yeah because he like he just came in there because i don't know people know but the studio is in the lobby of a hotel casino oh i didn't know that yeah so like if you ever been to Vegas they have all the restaurants stores it's just like that it's a studio and people walking by you guys see when they're recording you can like walk by and see cam that's so cool So I think Adrian happened to just be in the hotel and was like, you know, just popped in. But I don't think, because if you look at the very beginning, I don't think he knew that he was going to be, they were going to be recording. He was going to be on the show.

And that's why Cam paid him because it was on some shit like, yo, just come on hop on real quick. The fight just happened this weekend. Yeah. We just wanted to just talk about the fight real quick. But, you know, Adrian was a little hungover. You know, might have been on, you know, just a different cloud at the moment. and he's an asshole it's okay to say that well yeah i mean put that in there as well and just you know just the energy that he was you know showing stat baby was a little flirtatious a little awkward

a little weird and her boyfriend is there actually you know like he's present and cam is like yo like try to give him the cool like yo chill bro like you know what i'm saying like you and then it just it got to a point where it was like this is too weird like it's not it doesn't make no sense for you to keep sitting here. Like, we can't even, every time we ask your question, this is what you're starting. Like, yo, you are so beautiful. It's like, all right, like, we're not, we're not going to keep doing it. So, Cam was right in what he did and we're handling it. But I think the, you know, what he said after Adrian left was a little unnecessary, like calling him a junkie and all of that. I think that was a little unnecessary. Like, he could have just left it at, you know, thank you for

coming, paid him for his, you know, this time. I think Kim was pissed off, though. He was pissed. I think he was pissed off. I think like when he was talking, he might have meant, I mean, obviously he meant what he said, but you know when you upset, I think Kim was really pissed off. And I think the more he sat there and thought about it.

Cam knew he was, was twisted. He knew he was drunk. Anybody, you know that. Look, and I'm sure they were having a conversation before they started recording, you could tell when somebody, this nigga, he twisted.

And I think, you know, that was it. But I just, again, I think he could have just left it on, yo, thank you for your time. You know what I'm saying? If you want to wait for, wait for us outside. Cool. He didn't have to get into,

yo, he's fucking junkie, the standing third. Like, he didn't have to do that. That was a little. Do it off camera. Yeah.

Or if you're going to do it, like don't let that see the light of day. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, make sure they cut that. But that ain't, but y'all know that ain't cute,

no. It ain't up. Yeah, but it's, yeah, but it's, again, say it while he's in the room. Uh,

I mean, listen. If you're going to say it. I get it. If you're going to say it, say why he's there like yo get out the room you fucking junkie like get out of here if it's that yeah if that's the energy then all right yeah but again i just think that you know cam handled it professionally at first it was like stood up a stab baby like yo for a bro listen god let you go thank you for your time professional you got a suit on you got can got shoes on he kept

the professional hard bottoms hard bottoms you know he's sliding all over the place he kept the professional and it's also Adrian Broan at same time like niggas ain't going to just put their hands on agent bro. That's not going to happen. Yeah. Niggas is going to sleep. The average niggins could be on every substance and you're still going down. Yeah, like Terrence Crawford might can't talk like that. Like, no what I'm saying? Like, Cam can't talk like that to Adrian Bruner because, you know,

obviously it'd go somewhere it don't need to go. And I thought Cam did a great job, was very professional. I would have loved to see him just leave it there. I get. Keep it professional. Yeah. Would y'all would y'all do that for me? Yeah, of course. Kick a nigga out of here? Oh, Cam handled that better than I would. Like if it was that type, I would be like, yo, bro, like, come on, my nigga. Like, and I'm not paying you.

I thought that was super honorable with Cam Deil. Like, he peeled off. I was like, wow. Yeah, he peeled off for him. It was like, I was like, okay. I wouldn't have did that. It was just like, nigga, I didn't get it. We didn't get what we wanted to get.

Like, it's like, you in here flirting with Demaris. Yo, you are so. Like, bro, we're talking about Terrence Crawford and Canelo. And you sitting here keep talking about Demaris. I didn't realize you was that pretty. Like, oh, my God. you are. Yeah, we've never had, we've never had a disrespectful guilt. Go ahead, Roy. We've never had a guest flirt with me, but not that bad. He was on his, uh, Broadway Joe Namath shit. You remember

on the sidelines when he was talking to, uh, the ESPN reporter and she just asked a question. And he's like, you're so pretty. And then she asked like a real question about like the Jets organization and everything. And he goes, he goes, I could care less about the team struggling. I want to kiss you. Yeah, yeah. He was on Joe Namath was on a thousand. That's like, I feel my thing. He was cooked. Watch Chad play. Impresses me.

The same thing impresses them. What does it mean to you now when the team is struggling? I want to kiss you. I couldn't care less about the team struggling. I want to kiss you. Thanks, Joe. Yeah. A huge compliment.

Joe Navith, part of the four-decade team. She definitely closed that out real quick. Thank you, Joe Namath. I wish, I, I love jokes. I wish men understood how uncomfortable that, like, I wish that young feel how uncomfortable that makes me. We feel it? Cam felt that.

Why you think Cam kicked them up? No, yeah, for sure. But I mean, like, yes, it makes everybody in the room uncomfortable, but how it feels for women like that icky feeling we get, especially when we're trying to be professional because you're not a nigga on the street, we can't just, like, walk away for you or say, fuck you, we're stuck. Like, we can't move. And then people on the internet,

were like, well, I don't understand why Kim did all that. She was laughing. And I'm like, oh, y'all. She was uncomfortable. This is why y'all are, so many men are, do accident, or what they call accidental rape, because you don't know when women are uncomfortable. They know what I'm saying is when women don't exactly say no, but their body is screaming, no.

It's like people don't understand cues, like body language. Like, they don't get it. They have no perception of how uncomfortable are making somebody at all. Oh, no. She looked clearly uncomfortable and thinking about her job, thinking about her man's probably on the other side of the glass, like thinking about how she's coming across. But yeah, that's an awful situation. People on Twitter were saying he did it for the boyfriend. So I saw that too.

That Cam did it for the boyfriend? That Cam only did it because her boyfriend was there. And if her boyfriend wasn't there. That was part of Cam said, hey, please stop doing that. Also, her man is here too. And then he said, my bad. And then he did it again right away. Yeah, people don't know Cam, like his character.

Like, he definitely, Kim definitely did that because he understood how uncomfortable she was. Yeah, they don't play about Stapby over here. Now, granted, the boyfriend being there, he said that, he was like, yo, like, her boyfriend is here. But that was those shit like, like, yo, like I'm not saying I wouldn't have did it if her boyfriend was here. You could flirt with us. Like, yo, but like, aside from her being uncomfortable, her boyfriend is here. Like, nigga, chill. Like, you bugging out right now.

Let me tell y'all something. First of all, I don't know. I don't watch that show. So I don't know if the show's general consensus is that Stap Baby has a boyfriend. Let me tell y'all something right now. If nobody knew I had a boyfriend and a nigger was flirt with me and y'all go, yo, her boyfriend here, cut that out. Yo, what y'all?

Why? Y'all ain't got to talk. Cut that out. Like, why y'all, why y'all telling people my business? Why y'all y'all telling people who I got in the studio? Like, chill to fuck out. Just kick him out. You know what I'm saying?

See, because you're still trying to, see, that's your fucking problem. No, no, no, no, fuck that. Because that's your problem. That is your problem. See, you're still trying to be one foot in the game, won foot out. Sit your hot ass dead. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, like, sit out. First of all, was understood don't need to be explained. That's number one. Number two. Try to give me these colloquialisms that all these holes out here was understood. That's her version of James Day. That's if you ain't trick it.

That's the same shit. That's the same shit, yo. Yo, like, keeps you shit out of life. Nah, your boyfriend is here. Now you go home and deal with the other niggas sex and you're like, oh, word. Yeah, now you deal with that. Yeah.

control. Get your PR person on the line and you know what I'm saying? Get out of that. But if your boyfriend is here and somebody. My PR, I'm like like Cam just said that because he wanted him to leave. That's easy PR. Cam just said that because he wanted it immediately. Wouldn't a bite there for me. It's easy PR. You see the shit that you wouldn't be doing this crazy. No, I'm just saying if I was a terrible person, that is what I would say. But not me. But you think that would work? Yes. Why do you think that work? I see it will work on certain guys, but it can't work on a guy like myself that has been a side nigga. Well, me personally, I tell everybody that everything that is said on this podcast is

entertainment. Don't believe anything that's set on this podcast. I say that the moment a nigga slides in my DMs and he's talking about a clip. Everything said on that podcast is for entertainment. Mm-hmm. Everything. But if a guy is dating you that has been a side dude before, knowingly, he was a side dude. Like him and the girl understood like.

So he ain't know his worth. Like, yo, yeah, I got a good boyfriend, but, you know, we could. Mm-hmm. So now, and being a side dude, you can pick up on certain things now when you're dating another woman if she's not being honest with you and telling you exactly what it is. You know, because you know the patterns. You know the things. You can, like, oh, okay. But why are you using your history of being a piece of shit person with a scarlet A on your chest?

Why are you using that against me? That's just because you held it down. How would I be the piece of shit? I was the side dude, like knowingly. Like, okay, I'm not trying to, you know. You're still a piece of shit. He was providing a service. service. The same way a girl who sleeps with a nigger that has a...

Yeah, but that's a girl. But I didn't have a girlfriend. I was the side dude. I didn't have a girlfriend. Yes, but you knew she was in a relationship. Your AP, you were engaging in cheating in dishonesty. You two are a piece of shit. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, Homeboy. That that ain't my, that ain't my business. That's a cross to Barry. Yeah. That ain't, that ain't my business. That's like what you, I don't got nothing to do with that. But I'm just saying, and being in that position in life before and playing that role, you understand now when you date other women, when it's like they be moving funny.

Just because you was laying down next to a liar doesn't mean that everybody you lay next to is a liar. I'm not saying everybody's a liar. I would never say that. I'm just saying when certain things happen and the woman starts moving a certain way, those that know, no, no. It's like, okay, it's all good.

So when you, yo, chill, don't flirt with the marriage. My boyfriend right here. And then you go home and be like, yo, I don't know what I'm saying? It wasn't a white idea. It wasn't a white. The dude that you doing that explaining to has ever played the side dude before, he knows your line. Not exactly.

That's what I'm trying to say. Because I'm going to pull out this. I'm pull out. You really think I'm stupid enough to let them lead that shit in there if I really had a side, nigga? Come on now, bro. You're being stupid. You were. Ooh.

Yo, you one of those, baby, Dee? I didn't even know you was like, yo, baby Dee. I didn't know. I knew you wasn't shit. But I ain't know you was like the diarrhea, though. Like, that's the wet shit. You're the wet, like, loose shit. What?

Like, and you look at me in his face. Like, yo, what you mean? Like, ooh, you one of those? No. No, Ma. Baby Dee, stop. Get out of that. Stop.

Don't do that. I don't do. Mom. Baby Dee, do not be, yo. Yo, do not be that woman, baby, D. Do not be that woman. I'm just saying. We're talking.

We're having like, what ifs, hypothetical. Of course. Yeah. Baby D is the character on the show. On the show. That's what I just said. And there's Damarison. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. But Baby D, and it remains to be seen with Demaris, is definitely the person that if her do questions like, yo, who is this guy? She would say, if I was cheating, you would never know who it was. Meanwhile, that's the guy. It's him. The whole time. Who else would be it?

Who the fuck ever would be? Scooby-Doo found him immediately. Who else would it have been? Like, that is the craic. When y'all don't talk about that enough as women, like, when y'all get past that point of your life, like, go back and be like, yeah, I was triven. I ain't going to lie. I was on bullshit. Why y'all don't never say when y'all was on bullshit?

Like why y'all just try to delete it like it never happened? No, we say it. But to our home girls. No, say it to the nigger that you was calling crazy for thinking that you was cheating on him. Why would I do that? He's moved on. He's happy. He has a new family.

Why would I go back and say, yo, by the way, you were right about this. Because now it's in his brain again. He healed. I'm going to let him stay healed. That's maturity. I'm not going to get that off of my chest just to relieve myself of that pressure. Like, you're happy. I want you to stay happy.

have you ever had a girl accuse you like pull up an IG page or bring up a chick and be like if we broke up today you will go right to her and in your head

you're like well yeah I'd be single yeah yeah I'm not fucking her but if we broke up today yeah I might

say yo it's not I'm single I might date her yes I might date her yeah but I'm single I hate when women get that off it's like

what are you say in that situation I think that's more so them speaking to the fact that you're attracted, so you like her. That's what it is. Like, that shit's your type of her. Anybody in a relationship,

man or woman can find someone else attractive. Yeah, it's okay. It's not accurate. Baby, I didn't know. I didn't know it was a deep, a dock, a criminal link, though. I don't cheat, though. I don't.

All four grandparents are gone, so there's no more, too. I can't use that no more. I got, like, one of y'all got to die for me to get that off. Oh my God. Just go cheat. I don't want to die.

Yeah, I don't, don't kill me. I don't want to be the blood sacrifice. Don't kill me in your story. Just go. Go be with that nigga, man. I would never do one. If you had to die a blood sacrifice for me to cheat, like, I would literally make it a fair. I wouldn't just cheat one night off your death.

That's crazy. Off your death, I could get like a whole second family up. Do you think you could ever be 100% faithful? Yeah. That's fucked. Yo, yes. What do you mean? Currently, are you good?

Yo, niggas is not good. I'm asking. What you? You know? What to me? I'm just asking, do you think... Niggas is not good. No, baby the day, I promise.

I wasn't framing it like that. Niggis is not good. I'm literally asking like, do you think that you could, one day, it's like, yo, I'm not, it's completely like clipped. I'm, this is my life. Yes, I've been in, yes, I've been in faithful relationship. Nica, have you? Can you?

Yeah. 100%. Yeah. All right. You see the different sides of this room, though? Damara said I'd be her blood sacrifice so she could cheat for one night. I said I'd suck a dick to keep her alive. Look at the difference between them

That's because you're gay. Dame, Dame voice. Yeah, that's because you're gay. That's not honorable? No. That's not honor up? No, no.

More of the Harlem phrases? Coming out the closet. That's honorable. Come out of a closet. He takes care of his family. Yeah, but come out the closet and say, I'm gay. Just say it. Don't be out here pretending you not.

That's what Dan was saying. He don't like when you pretend that you're not gay. Nothing wrong with being gay, but say you're gay. In that context, I'm saving her life. Yes. It's dick or die. I'm sorry Okay

So to me That's what I understand So to me that's like the honorable thing to do The same way Dane was saying You know Hustle for your last name Not your first Like you put your family

Everything in their name I think that's the same way I'm keeping Demaris alive Like I'm making those sacrifices I mean listen The fact that you know why Why would you bring that back up Like I thought

That was funny because you just said You'd kill me to go cheat And I'm trying to keep you alive But so I'm just saying Like usually when we say some shit where it's like, damn, like, you know, like, I want y'all to know how much I love y'all, so I'm going to say this, but we just never going to talk about it again. Like, you bought the shit back up.

You're curious. Hmm. She's talking to you, Charlemagne. She's talking to you, Charlotte. Yo. All right. You're saying, in that scenario, I could just tag Charlemagne in and be like, you, like, this more your department.

Like, this is your expertise. This is where you. Yeah. I could hire you. I could be your boss. Do you do this? And Damara stays alive. Oh, my God.

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A I you know A seven minute AI record is crazy I mean I just thought it was That's a lot of data Um I just Like I don't know man I don't know if we needed this

You made it through the whole record Yeah Oh I I applaud you You have you have You have ninja patience Like that's crazy That you made it through this record

this was just not good like the music wasn't good the rapping wasn't good I mean I understand the sentiment like you know it's like you apologizing to people that you know are hearing things that you're saying about them affected some relationships and things like that

I get it I understand that sentiment I don't know if we needed a seven minute record saying that like just call these dudes individually send a text something like you know we didn't need we didn't need this record Yeah, man. Apology is changed behavior and you should change the song.

This is, this was bad. Yeah, this is wasn't. This wasn't. I read the cliff notes though. I see he apologized to Mariah, to Drake, to who else? I just don't really care. I think Thug probably thinks people care more than they really do because the internet just wants to make jokes. Nobody really cares.

Nobody cares about, I keep telling you how they just showed us the UFO flying straight through a missile. We're talking about a young thug apology record. Like nobody cares about this. There are crazier things going on that people are just ignoring. At this point, it's like, what the fuck is happening? I just think it's kind of crazy that this is what it took for Thug to start putting out music. Because he's been quiet until, oh, this shit leak. Now he's put out seven minute records.

And I felt like he just put out an apology record last week, too, that we thought was AI. and then a video came out for it. So yeah, this is one of those that I think we should just all move fast. But what does this mean for Thug, like moving forward? Like, what does, what does thug sound like? What does his music sound like? Obviously, relationships are, you know, strained at this point.

He probably doesn't have the relationships that he once had as far as in the industry and other artists and things like that. What does this mean for Thug like? What is this, how does this affect him? I think it's very much post 444 in Lemonade. I think we will get the thug in Mariah the Scientist, Everything's Love, Part 2. Like, I think they'll do a joint album to, like, show solidarity.

Baby D. I, um, it might be over, bro. I don't. You think it's over for thug? I, I, okay, let's clarify. I'm not saying that I think that it's over for thug. Thug. I think there's a possibility that Thug will never be as big as he was. And I think that in an era

where people's, it's hard to come back and put out an album like anyway. Like Gunna is the exception, not the rule once you've been, you know, gone for a while or like once you kind of turn people off, it's hard. It's hard to come back and to get to be invested. So what Baby Dee is saying, it's hard to come back just if you just did a bid. Oh, come on. Like that's because now it's like, you know, so much has changed. sound, you know, slang and things like that. We move forward faster. Yeah, cadences.

Like, a lot of things have changed in music. So you're playing catch up naturally when you go away. You've got to do a bid. But to now have relationships that you probably once leaned on that are not there anymore, the relationships you probably had that you leaned on creatively, you know, while you're in the studio, like a lot of those things are no longer available to you because you can't even be around. certain people anymore. You can't even hang out with certain people anymore. So a lot has changed with the just, you know, as far as life goes. So now when you talk about creative, creating and

writing and, you know, catching the vibe and the energy and, you know, a lot of that is things that people don't talk about that goes into making great music. You got to catch that right energy, that moment, that pulse. It's a lot that goes, you know, that you don't really think about. that just kind of happens when you're in that in that world that I don't think thug probably has at this moment anymore so you know his sound is definitely going to change what he what he talks about is going to change clearly so it's like does his audience do they follow that change do they follow that sound do they follow that new thug do they follow or does he have to is this something where he has to literally just start from scratch and rebrand

build, rebrand, you know, kind of like pivot his sound a little bit. Like, I think Thug is, it's a lot of questions that he's probably having with his camp in his circle right now. Everyone's going to follow if it's good. Like, if it's good. If Gunna came out and the music he put out right away was ass, the overall energy would be like, yo, Gunna's a rat. Fuck him.

We don't support rats. But it was good. So everyone followed suit. and Gunna is probably bigger than he was before. Doug just has to focus on making good music. Like, that's it. People don't care. They will only go if the music is good.

Now, if the music sucks, people are just going to continue to say, like, yo, you were the complete opposite of what you were perceived as. We thought you were this guy. You're not that guy. And all of those rumors and shit will just keep following him. People forget when the music is good. Everything is fine after that. Yeah, you make good music.

And, you know, that's like the, the fix all. But it's not, it's not the fix all, though. If you make good music? There's plenty of people that make good music that people don't. Like, if you have a certain sound and your sound becomes dated while you're away or you become unlikable to the public, it is good music is not enough these days. There's plenty of people who make good music.

There's plenty of people who make good music and y'all don't hear of them. Who? Who? I'm talking about that had like the spot. I had the moment, but like it was a big name, big artist. and then, you know, went away for whatever reason and then came back and made good music and nobody is paying them attention.

Like, who? I would have to secure it a list. I can't think about that at the top of my head. But that's like good, I just don't feel like good music is enough. Well, let's use Gunna as an example. Let's not rewrite history when that tape leaked of him saying,

yes, ma'am, everyone hated Gunna. That was the consensus on the timeline. His old friends were tweeting shit. Everyone in the industry was unfollowing him. Let's not act like everyone loved Gunna the way they do now. Everyone loves Gunner because the music was good. He changed the narrative right away just because the music was great. No, he changed everything.

This niggas in shape. He's going to 5K runs through Central Park. Like, he's doing all kind of different shit. But I feel like a lot of that. He was actually reformed by the state of Georgia. Oh, yeah. He got a peek behind that wall. And it was like, nigga, I'm never going to jail.

But it wasn't. The first one ever corrected by this correction system. He's doing juice clean. And all kind of shit. And all of the things that you're naming also contributed. It wasn't just that the music was good. He had a hit and the music was good. But Gunna, the way that Gunna was marketed, the two shows that he did, the fact that

his looks changed and he changed up his style. He got more into fashion. He lost weight. He did all of those things. He was always in the fashion. Yeah. But all of those things like, it wasn't just the music was good. All those things definitely help.

But they won't matter unless the music is. good. If Gunna said yes ma'am, put out shitty music and then got in shape, nope, like the best he would be would be a fitness influencer. Of course. The music needs, the music needs to be good. Okay, yes. So y'all miss what I'm saying. I'm not saying that if the music, like, it doesn't matter if the music is good. What I'm saying is, the music has to be good, but just because the music is good doesn't mean that that will be enough. That doesn't automatically mean that that will be enough. That fixes a lot, though. Sometimes. When you put out a good start. When you, when you drop. When you drop.

But who decides what a banger is? And that's my thing, right? Like, who decides what a banger? There are some songs I'm sure that you guys have heard that in your head, it's a banger. But if the public doesn't perceive it that way, if it's not marketed the correct way, if the kids don't, if the kids don't catch on to it or know that it exists, it doesn't matter that the music is good because the right people aren't hearing it and uplifting it and the time wasn't right. So that's why I said it doesn't, sometimes it doesn't matter if the music is good. Sure. and I hear you on that,

but also Gunna capitalized on the moment no matter what. Because the movies was good, all of us had our eyes on Gunna because we wanted to see what he was going to say. Everyone clicked that when he dropped that project immediately because we wanted, it was the moment.

What's Gunna about to say? And we listened, it was like, oh, this is good. So we stayed with it. He capitalized on all of the eyes being on him. So at that point, all you have to do is deliver music because you know, no matter what, everyone wants to hear

what you have to say. Now Thug is in the same position, but unfortunately, the moment that happened was a bunch of leaked jail calls instead of music. All of our ears and eyes went to that. Now, he still is going to have that moment. I don't think he should waste it on seven minute apologies. I think he should focus on records that we're actually going to fucking replay because all the eyes are on Thug. We want to know what he's going to do. And I feel like he's wasting those moments on bullshit.

Yeah. I feel like that moment has passed. Which one? the moment where he should have put out a banger. I feel like it's passed. I agree, but I... How? He just, he didn't really put out shit.

He didn't put nothing out, except for this joint. And then obviously the Jeffrey files that they put out. But what I'm saying is it's not about what he has put out. I'm saying the moment, like, you've let other things eclipse the moment of you getting out of jail already. Like, that's, you've let other things eclipse them. Yeah, but... He'll still have moments. People still want to hear his music, though.

Like, if he announces he's putting out an album next month, month, people are going to listen to it. Oh, no, for sure. You know what he does? Because of... But his window. You only got one shot and he's not missed the chance to blow. I'm saying also, too.

You see Top Gun 2? Phenomenal. You see when they had to drop them... That mission... That's the precision Doug has to have? Man, Doug got that type. He got one shot. He has to hit Mach 10.

Man, he got one shot. He got, and he got to be a hit. It got to be a hit. If not, I don't know if people go back to it. I'm going to be honest. I don't know if they go back to it. to, you know, he might have to find another artist and just kind of like curate another, you know, upcoming artists and go that route. But, you know, it's just being honest, like, I think he

turned a lot of people off with a lot of these phone calls that are being put out. Again, I think a lot of, you know, favors that he may have thought he was going to have coming home. And I think a lot of people are going to kind of turn the shoulder on them now. Like, yeah. Because like I said, We didn't finish in the tapes. Oh, definitely. There was more phone calls coming. If it went from, artists couldn't wait to have the opportunity

to work with Thug again to, I don't know if I should. Yeah. And to Demaris's point, too, with the likability thing, with this one shot, yes, he has a window, people are going to pay attention.

But if it's just average, because he's become so unlikable, then you don't get a second chance after that. A likable person sometimes gets a second chance. Yeah. An unlikable person, people are going to go to listen, but if it is not undeniable,

they're still going to be bias in your head of, I don't like this person. I know what could, I know what might help. I think I got it. Okay. Thug got to do the ayahuasca. Oh, you mean like for the music or help like his life?

Just life. I think that's going to unlock a whole other thing for him. Yeah. I think if Thug do the ayahuasca, he's going to be all right. I wouldn't know, I would love to like be able to watch. and see what is in thugs head during an ayahuasca. I would love to just be able to be on that journey with him. Just watch, just watch it like, I'm just a passenger.

I'm just a passenger on the trip. Like I got to see- Thugs do the ayahuasca, he gonna drop a classy. You know what he should do? He should do the ayahuasca and live stream it. Like the live stream marathons, he should do the week of ayahuasca and the live stream should never leave. He should go to Costa Rica, go to Costa Rica, go to a nice, like village,

you know what I mean get your own villa type of thing get the shaman have the shaman come in yeah live stream the whole ayahuasca experience and then watch the music watch watch watch watch watch watch what happens to the music after that and kai this is copywritten so don't go rent a house and get druski in every celebrity in the world and all you guys do iawaska in the basement no they could do it we just got to 30 days of iowaska with all our favorite celebrities in kai's house so jake paul and tank Davis is the next fight November 14th? Yep. I mean, I have no backbone.

I want to boycott this, but I'm a thousand percent going to watch. You have to watch this. You have to. You got to watch this fight. I don't know where I land on it. I mean, obviously Tank is the favorite, but I mean, I don't know, man. I don't want to say that all though. What happens? What happens if he loses?

I don't take. He ain't going to go. We have to have a different Jake Paul conversation. We keep having to have new Jake Paul conversation. because he keeps beating people. No, he's not, he not, he not, he not, he not, he not being tank. We say that every time. He not being tank. I mean, I, like, I was on, when they first announced this fight, I was kind of like, you know,

Jake Paul's obviously, obviously the bigger guy. He can, you know, he hit, I guess he could say he hits hard. I don't know if we can say that he can hit tank hard. Like, I don't know if tank is going to be affected by how hard he hits, but, yeah, no, he's not, tank is not losing that fight. This is why this is a simulation. This all started with Nate Robinson. Yeah.

It did. Started with Nate Robinson. And then it got to Floyd and Mike Tyson and now tank in his prime. What the fuck is going on? Yeah, man. I mean, it's boxing. It's entertainment, man. Let's make it entertaining.

I guess we can stay in the boxing realm, but more on the battle rap side. Did you watch Murder Mook and Hitman Hala over the weekend? I did, man. I did. Shout out to Mook. Sharmie Mook is, you know. It's one of the goats, man. Well, shout out to the takeover battle league, because this happened, I think, it happened

Saturday in Houston, right? Yeah, yes. Or Friday. Yes, Saturday. And it was out by Sunday night. If Smack had this battle, we would get it in spring 2026. Yes, we would get it right before the Tyson Mayweather fight. Like, I used to hate when they would announce it.

And I was like, well, I can't go to the battle, so let me not even get excited because I don't have to wait six months to see all this shit. I don't even think the last summer madness has come out yet. Yeah. and we're going into fall like summer madness that shit would happen in August we get that shit in December

so shout out to that league for keeping up with the times where we want shit the moment we see it so I like that they turn it around I like hitman hollow don't get me wrong as far as one of the

A-listers as far as battling goes in the battle rap history he's the most basic A-lister to me basic I'm not I'm not in any way saying hitman is trash. But out of all of his peers, the people that you would compare him to, he's the most basic

primer. And I think that showed in this mook battle, like, it showed, showed his ass when he was rapping next to Mook. Well, I don't know. I mean, that's not really a knock on, because you're, with battle rap, it's, you know, from obviously with somebody like Mook, Mook has been battle rapping since before it was like not rushing.

He was like literally walking a different neighborhoods, different blocks, battling whoever. Like he come out, Mook comes from that. Before it was so

performative as it is. Now, like now, battle rap is a little more performative. It's a little more like, you know, spoken word, kind of like,

it's a performance. But I feel like Sirius Jones and Mook were actually kind of the ones that started that to where we even get Hitman.

I just think they all did it with real intricate schemes that sounded based You can still perform it, but they're rapping, rapping. Hitman says cool shit, but it's like straight basic, which is fine because he's clearly won a bunch of battles and I think he's great. But I think that's why he was probably so successful on whiling out why it's so funny. It's just just basic, right in your face, here you go, a car, car, bar, dar, like just, there you go.

Yeah, but I think that, you know, there's no real schemes like that. Yeah, but Mook is, he's just different. I think when you, when you're somebody that, again, you just, you're just from a different era in this. battle rap thing. I think that it's hard to beat guys like that because, you know, the element is not as as, you know, it's just not as tough as it once was. Like when you used to battle rap and go on somebody's block and stand in a circle on a sidewalk and like to come from that and then now we're on stage and it's just like, it's like, that's easy for moot. Like that's not, that's not a tough environment for him. Like that's a more curated, safe.

you know, like environment for him to go in there and do what he does. Like, Hitman, I mean, I think he comes from that as well. He was obviously after Moop, but, you know, Hitman has had his years of performing well in the battle wrap. But I just think it's different. It's just different levels when it comes to guys like Moop and Lux and those guys. It's just a different, you know, like you're going to look different standing in across from those guys because they just cut different when it comes to battle rap.

And yeah, again, I wasn't saying, as you said, not like a slight to him because I think he's great. He should be talked about with the peers that he's talked about. He's proven that. He has a resume for that. But it just, I don't know, this one, I thought it was 3-0. And with the information that Hitman had in the third round, especially somebody like Mook who's been in this for so long, you think we've heard every skeleton that he has in his closet. it. With the information, I feel like Hitman made it so basic and didn't deliver it well that it didn't even matter, which is crazy. And on top of that, I do applaud him for thinking

the battle rap world cares about domestic violence. Like, I don't think this is the arena where this is going to hit the way you think is going to hit. Like, no, that's crazy. And granted, if any of that is true down to the, um, we'll say grape so we don't get demonetized. The grape in college that got him kicked out, beating up his wife, beating up his daughter. Yeah, that's fucking nuts,

if any of that is true. I just will care about it on the Twitter timeline. The battle wrap, you think that side? Yeah. That didn't even move anyone in the crowd on stage. No. This ain't the place.

Yeah. They didn't, care about that. I mean, I salute hitman for putting that whole thing together and you know, for sure. That whole scheme and everything like that, you know, that's, that takes skill. But it just didn't land the way I thought hitman thought it would land. And what's so far? And salute to the battle rap community. I'm not saying all you guys don't care about domestic violence. But if you go look at mass last round against hollow when he was talking about how hollow scheme his man's out of the t-shirt company and all that, that whole crap.

I was like, you're fucked, you're fucked up, you foul, all this shit. They care about scheming your man out of money. Not beating up women. No. You have to think about what. Yeah, it just didn't land. What this arena is. But I think Moog, he definitely outperformed them all three rounds.

I think it was three old. Moog went crazy. Yeah, Moog went fucking nuts. I don't know if there's anybody left for Moog to battle at this point. Like, who else is, like, guys like Mook and Lucks, it's like, who do they battle? Got to wait for the younger guys to get better and have a, a longer resume so they can even get in that room but yeah I'm with you

yeah it's like it's nobody it's you know I'm just mooking daylight I don't know yeah I'm cool but either way shout out to uh what does it takeover shout out to that platform they definitely turned that turned that event around in less than a day so that was dope

to get that get that battle last night to watch that shout out the moog and hit man oh they both put on a great you know showing a skill and word play and things like that. But Moog is different, man. Mook is, he's a goat. He's top five when it comes to battle rap.

I think that's solidified now. I know guys like to argue that and, you know, say that he's not. I don't know why they would even think that. But maybe my New York bias, but Mook is definitely one of the goats when it comes to battle rap. No, for sure. Maul, I'm going to tell you something I've never said to you a day in my life. But I've always wanted to know, have you.

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