New Rory & MAL - Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 9/29

Episode Date: October 5, 2025

This week on New Rory & Mal, Bad Bunny was chosen as the Super Bowl Halftime performer and middle America loses their minds, Mal thinks Doja Cat should be in the same conversation with Nicki Minaj, Rory & Mal recap the Cardi B and Nicki Minaj Twitter war, and Mal gets vulnerable about his ego and his thoughts on "revenge" #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But I'm John Green. Co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel on our podcast The Away End. We'll share with you the magic of international football. all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. When I came out of the theater last night, I think, I'm asking my homeboy while we was in the theater.

I guess he checked his phone and was like, oh shit, Bad Bunny got the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. I thought he was lying. And I was like, what? It was a bad bunny. Was that surprising to you? Not that it was surprising to me, because news that came out that Taylor Swift turned it down and Adele turned it down. Yes.

So I was laughing my homeboys about that. I was like, yeah, you know, when you're a big dog, you turn down the Super Bowl. You don't need the fucking Super Bowl. Just talking shit. And meanwhile, the biggest dog. Well, Benito. Benito decided he was going to. What would you think Prince would be?

Well, no, I mean, it was just. jokes. It was just shit talking. But once Taylor turned it down and Adele turned it down, it was kind of like, well, damn, who's going to, so then you obviously have to look at whoever's the biggest, the stars. That's what they, you know, how they kind of go by it. So it was Bad Bunny. I thought about it, but I didn't think the NFL or Rock Nation would actually pull a trigger on it and do it.

I thought they would find somebody else and kind of fill in that slide. I didn't know if Bad Bunny wanted to even. be a part of it, the Super Bowl thing. But it makes sense after he just had the residency in Puerto Rico, what he did down on the island, which was incredible. You know, but I didn't think that it would land on Bad Bunny after Adela and Taylor Turner. He wasn't the first person I thought about.

But now that he is announced as to perform the Super Bowl, it makes sense. I mean, he's one of the biggest stars in the world. You thought right-wing football was mad at Dr. Dre and Snoop Dog? This is going to be the most racist halftime Twitter timeline you have ever seen in your life. At this time, Bad Bunny was made comments about ICE. Also, I think Bad Bunny would make more sense for maybe FIFA just based off not only its popularity, but just the sport in itself and our internationalists.

Football is a very American thing. This is going to be interesting. Well, Puerto Rico is a territory of the U.S. I fully understand. Right. I just, it's an interesting pick. I like it. I'm just telling you with the climate right now, this was a crazy pick.

A bold move. But at the same time, I'm not bad. I can't wait to see it. I think this is the time where it needs to, I think it's the right move. He's the biggest pop star in the world. So, yeah. Well, it's interesting because the reason why he didn't go on an American tour was because he was in, I guess, concerned is the word.

He was concerned that ICE would be at his shows arresting. Very fair assumption that that would happen without question. The fact that there's people... They go to Home Depot's. You don't think they go to the bad bunny show? They would be waiting outside. But it's not interested to you that somebody that's here illegally, a migrant could afford a bad bunny ticket in America?

What is that? How... You know how expensive bad bunny tickets are? Do you know how much money the guy standing outside of Lowe's and Home Depot pull in? cash? No, I don't. A good amount. I'd have offered them, sorry. Like, yeah, that ain't. But that's just nice. They buying the big chicken tenders and fries at the stadium.

But for the artists to be like, yo, I don't want to go on a U.S. tour because I'm afraid that ICE agents might be at my shows arresting people. Yeah. And also, not even all of them have to be immigrants. They could be, the ICE be fucking around fucking with regular Spanish people. Like, they don't even have to be immigrants. They will arrest you and then figure out the details later. Oh, you're American? Oh, my bad. Oh, you're a dreamer. Oh, my bad. Yeah, I don't think that's how it goes.

That's definitely happened plenty of times. I don't know what that's happened. It has happened. The interesting part is, the interesting part is his show, his stage performance is incredible. For sure. He puts on a better show than 90% of the artists. So it will be a huge production. It will be great.

Completely well deserved. I just think it's a bold move that I'm not mad at. It's just for this year, we'll go into next year. Yeah, it's a crazy pick. And then we all. know what it's all about. You know, they're getting the big, you know, obviously the Latin community will tune in to the halftime show. So the, the numbers are going to be incredible. And that's all this is about. It's not so much about the people in the stadium. It's not so much

about the people that's actually at the Super Bowl, but more so about how many people can we get to tune in for halftime to push these commercials and things like that. So I mean, Bad Bunny is, you know, he has a huge, huge, a global audience. He puts on a great show. He has great music, great performer, great entertainer. So, I mean, it makes sense. Is the NFL scripted if somehow the Raiders go from one in three and go on a Super Bowl run? Why would that be scripted?

Because a lot of Latinos are Raiders fan. Cowboys fans, too. True. Chargers are doing pretty well. 49ers fans? Is that a thing with the Niners? Oh, you never been to a Niners game? I haven't, no.

Oh, yeah. Huge. Oh, okay. Huge. What's the Niners record now? I'm just trying to see if, uh, get the NFL scripted. Three and one. Chargers three and one.

Nine is three and one. Script, script is in. It's in the Bay Area. The Ninus might be in the game, man. The Ninus might be in the bowl. In all Latino experience. Oh, my God. An all Latino.

Yeah. Los NFL. I'm curious how they're going to, not spin per se, but like market the entire thing. with Bad Bunny. I'm just interested to see. The same way they market, you know, Modelo.

It's the same. Y'all have a large Spanish audio. Wait, are we being offensive? No, and how am I? No. How's that? No, it's not offensive. I'm just saying they're going to market it

the same way they market anything else. In Mall's defense, the image that Rock Nation did pick looked like a Corona commercial. He was on the beach with a fucking goal post. You know the Corona commercial with a silhouette of,

of the little hut in the palm tree. Yeah. It was the same thing. It's the same thing. It's Bad Bunny. That sells itself. Good dope sells itself. You know that, Rory.

Bad Bunny. It's blue magic. It's brand name. Bad Bunny's performing at Super Bowl. That's all you have to say. It might be the highest watch Super Bowl. I don't know. Okay.

It might be the highest watch Super Bowl. I don't think that's a bad take at all. Nah, not more than not like us. All right. I'm not trying to go back. I will say between the numbers of people that watch the half the numbers of people that watch the halftime show regardless, plus an entire new demographic that may not watch it. Yeah, this could be the highest, highest rated halftime show ball-down.

He's not. He's not being Kendrick, though. He's not. No way. He's going to beat Kendrick. No, he's not. Yeah, I will go on the limits. He's probably going to be Bruno Mars and Beyonce. You're like, y'all got babbole. He fucked up. See, now that's offensive. We were not a few. Yeah, what is that? What is that? I don't know if that was that. That was Italian? What was that? All of my friends. That's like when my friends. That's like when my dad says Brasi is at a Mexican restaurant. What the fuck was that? All of my friends who say bad, they all say bad boony.

They all say it like that. I'm telling you. All of them are are friends who are bad bunny fans, like all of them. Shout out the Ann, shout out the rocks. Like the ones that travel to Puerto Rico to go see bad bunny. That's how they say it. Yeah, but you can't say that though. What the fuck can I?

Well, you look like you can be Spanish. You do. The mustache? No, you just, you look like you could be Honduran. You look like you can be. Puerto Rican, you like you can be Dominican. Yeah. You got that look too.

Coastalrican, maybe. Yeah, you got that look. Definitely have Puerto Rican mannerisms for sure. What does that see? That feels racist. That felt racist. Well, anything from his face, his white face is going to come across. You're acting like I was quoting the young thuggettrow.

Why did a while white? What's going on? Well, he said, young thugs said, you know, the thing about what the music industry used to be is if you want to be big and be success. go white. So that's what he was trying to do. Like he was trying to. This is his bluegrass album.

But why do he turn everybody? This is not his bluegrass. This is not. I don't even want you to. This is not young. This is his head. No, this is not that. But that was his reason saying, you know, they used to have a black artist when they,

but back in the days, their album cover would be like white people on a beach. It wouldn't even be the black artist on that. So he's kind of like alluding to that. If you want to be the biggest, you got to go white. Okay, was that a fake tweet when he posted, here's all my friends and was all the features and they were all white too? Because again, I didn't have service.

I didn't know if that was a troll. Probably a troll. I don't know. It looked like it was a real account. But it had all the features and they were all white, which made me wish that Central C was on the album so I could see the white version of Central C that he would make. Just put a picture of Central C?

If it was all of them and then just see as is. Do we think Bad Bunny is going to bring anybody? with him? Cardi B. I would not be surprised, but I don't think so. I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think so. Bodega Baddy at the Super Bowl? No, what was the one from the first album that they have?

Now, I like diamonds. Yeah, I think Cardi comes out and they do that. I like it like that. Oh, yeah, they definitely got to do. If you're going to do, I like it like that anyway, it has to be at the Super Bowl. Yeah. That's such a Super Bowl record. Cardi and Ricky Martin need to come up.

Yeah, for sure. Shakira while they're at it, see if she's free. Didn't she already do the Super Bowl? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think Cardi gets brought out. I don't know, is there another artist from that genre? Jay Balvin?

Jay Balvin, yeah. Jay Balvin. Isn't he on? I like it like that too. Jay Balvin and Bad Bunny got a little. Oh, it's a little static? A little static between them right now. I mean, I don't know if it's, I wouldn't say beef,

but I don't think that they're on the terms that they used to be on right now. But they could squash it at the Super Bowl. That would be like a nice moment of unity. It would be like Thug and Lucci. have you guys listen to big doge I know mall did did I that's all I've been listening to a weekend really what he put on uh

his back to the future uh what's the sneakers you got the mags you definitely put those on to listen to that no I didn't do that you was walking around the house in them no I definitely didn't do that quote I haven't heard it yet is it more rap is it pop is it what is it I haven't heard it yet I've been busy oh my god it's very 80s pop very much 80s This album is incredible.

Incredible music. Doja, bro, listen, man, she might be, y'all know how I feel about Nikki, but like Doja is like right there for me. I think she,

I think Doja as far as her artistry, her talent, her vision, I think she's right there with the Beyonce's and the Riannas and all of them. Absolutely. Like her artistry and her skill set and her vision, like her stage show, her performance, everything is right.

She just doesn't have the big production that those artists have. But like her talent level, her skill set. You just named two artists that ain't even on the same talent level. So like, are you putting her on a level with Rihanna or a level with Vicky or a level with Beyonce? I'm saying she's right there in the same scope with those artists. She's right there. What I was saying is them artists are not on the same scope as each other.

That's why I was confused. No, but I mean those are like superstars. Okay. And you're saying she's a superstar. Yeah, absolutely. I thought you were talking about actually, like. No, she's not on the same. No, she hasn't had the success that those artists have had.

But skills, skill set and talent, 1,000. Okay, I agree with you there. 1,000. She definitely has the skill set. 1,000 percent. Like, she's, bro, like, you can just look at an artist and tell, like, if they had, because you, as you know, Roy, a lot of what comes with the lore of a superstar is, you know, production, is the production big.

the stage presence and all that kind of adds to the but i'm just talking about skill set talent vision like she has all of that i mean anytime you see it at these when we see it at the met like she was the most talked about person on the carpet like she has that that thing that she has that superstar quality that those other ladies have without a doubt okay that's all i was i just wanted to clear up because i'm when i hear you say that you compare and doja to biance i don't want to be hive to kill you so that's why i just want to be high to kill you so that's why i just want to I'm not, clear up with you. I'm not saying that Doja Cat is as talented as Beyonce.

That's some crazy ass shit to say. I'm saying she is. Okay, okay. I don't think she's not, she's not as strong vocally as Beyonce. But talent, she dances, she rap, she sings. Like, she checks all of the, her performance, she checks all of the boxes. Without a doubt. Like, Doja Cat is that type of talent, without a doubt.

Skill set, yes, I'm with you. But to put them in the same category, she would have to accomplish the same things that I feel like those. But that comes with time. Yeah. That just comes with time. That's all we're talking about. Because I mean, when it comes,

obviously she's not a better stringing than Beyonce, not a better dancer catalog, and hasn't done any of the tour scales that Beyonce has done. I mean, I don't even think she's there with Nikki yet, but she could be on the path to get there. Like, I think she's great. I just think she needs to accomplish more to be in those conversations.

When you say she's not on Nikki's level, what do you mean as far as what? Skills, talent? accomplishments. That comes with time, bro. You're talking about things that come with time. I know, but that's what I'm getting at. Catalog, impact,

hits. Like, I don't think Doja could stand toe-to-to-to- with Nikki and come even close in a versus. Yeah, but you... Okay. I'm talking about songs. It's just songs. Okay, I'm talking about talent level.

Skillshare set. Yeah. Superstar quality. You think that Doja Cat, is when it comes to rap music, right? Because I look at Doja like a pop star. I look at Nikki as a pop star too, but Nikki leans more toward rap.

You think that Doja can sit with Nikki, talent-wise, with rapping? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think if Nikki and Doja have a, get a record together where they're just rapping, I think Doja definitely holds her own,

definitely will have people like, oh, shit, I didn't know Doja was like that, without a doubt. I think she would definitely hold her own. Agreed. But, I mean, again, and it's not a slight to Doja at all, but, you know, she'd be on a record with somebody that clearly had a huge influence on her. Oh, yeah. As far as Nicky? Yeah. And I don't know that way. Everyone should be influenced by. Listen, y'all know where I put Nicky. But I'm just saying like.

But you can hear Nikki through a lot of Doja. 100%. But when you, I'm just saying when you listen to a Doja Cat record or album and you just hear just again, the. talent level for somebody who is probably writing all of this shit. Well, yeah, Twitter, I forgot what page it was, put out a very misleading stat that Doja Cat is the first female rapper to have only herself in the writing credits of a full album. And I was like, no, that, well, that's wrong. Yeah. But to what I'm saying, she's writing all of this, whether it's a rap, pop, R&B, whatever

she's doing, like she's writing that. She's executing it. She sounds great. If she, you know, at her show, her performance is incredible. Like I just was talking about what she did at the VMAs. Her performance at the VM. She had Michael Bolton. Yeah.

Was it Michael Bolton or Kenny G? Kenny G. It was Kenny G. Kenny G. She had Kenny G come out. Like, just that attention to detail for a stage show, like for that is, that just let you know that this is an artist that is looking at things. differently. She's paying attention to the detail of everything. And that is what a superstar does.

To me, I mean, Sands fashion and producing to some degree, I know Doja Cat does produce, but she's more in a Tyler Lane to me than she would be comparing her to Nikki. What? Yeah. I get what we're saying. No, you don't. This album, I mean, she doesn't compare it to the last project, which was more of a rap project, She doesn't wrap that much on this project. It's a pop album. So that's where the Nikki thing, I wouldn't even like.

Forget the project. I'm just saying her skill set. Sure. Okay. You compared her to Tyler? Yeah. You said Tyler or Tyler? Tyler.

Tyler, the creator. Oh, okay. I thought you saw my Tyler. He said Tyler and I'm like, no, no. He meant Tyler the creator. Tyler the creator. Okay, okay. Okay, got you.

I said Sands fashion and some producing. Tyler produced. And I know Doja Cat produces. but I don't think she does to the degree that Tyler Creator does. Okay. And Tyler has a, like, his fashion shit is over here too. But I would put- Joe-I-I-Stra.

So now you see why I was kind of like, what? Yeah. No, Tyler. That's all I'm saying. And there's no disrespect to Tyler. I think she's dope. That would just be a weird. But I'm just saying for you to say that I was like, how are you comparing that?

But okay. Yeah, I would put her more in a comparison there than Nikki, who obviously does have pop hits and does sing. But Nikki is at the end of the day, like, you think rapper first, hardcore rapper first. Whereas Doja, you know, is spread across the whole spectrum when it comes to music. This album being one of those where she's rapping. I love her raps. But that wasn't the focus on this.

This was way more melodic, way more in the sense. Like this was, it was an 80s pop album. Yeah. My only critique of it, because I really do love it, it's a little too on the nose of 80s pop. I would have like her to make it more of her own. I think it. This was like straight up like, hey, I'm making an 80s pop album. It was Bruno Marzi.

No, no, not in that. Like, it doesn't need to be warmer. It's just like, um, like, all right, day and night to me was like a Cuddy. It was a weird version of like an 80s pop record, but Cuddy made it his own and made it in this time. This doesn't sound like an 80s album in 2025. It just sounds like an 80s pop album that Doja Cat is singing and rapping over, which is fine. I think it's great. I think that's what she was.

I think that's what she was trying to do. Now, the content is definitely Doja. Hell. What she's saying is definitely Doja. She's talking shit on it. But the music is, I think that's what she wanted. She wanted to kind of capture that sound, that, you know, that energy of 80s pop. And I think she did that.

But I think she still kept the Doja with the lyrics. Content for sure, yeah. This is definitely a tour that I will pay. Oh, no, I'm going to the show. Like this is going to the show at the garden Without a doubt I'm not missing Doja again It's not happening What happens when like the lights go too crazy

Epilepsy? What do you get? I would like I want to get epilepsy at the garden I'm Molly If it's 80s themes with all the lasers Like yeah I want this to be that Yeah I'm definitely going 100% I'm not I was mad I missed her last tour We got the LA I think the day after she just ended the tour

That's not happening in the shit. I will be at the garden for that doja show, without a doubt. Gotta see her life. She's one of those artists that I just, I feel like I have to see it. I have to actually go to the show and just, just see it and feel the energy and what her fan base is. I'm mad I miss Global Citizen Fest in New York this weekend. What is that? It was like, like a kind of like a, not really a festival, but a festival. Global Citizen, they had Tyler, they had Cardi B up there performing pregnant.

They had Mariah the scientists. They had a bunch of people. I was heartbroken. No, I don't think those should perform But it was a lot of people I never heard a global citizen Really? Wow, yeah It was in New York this weekend So it's just like a festival Yeah, it's been going on for a while now

Was it at Shea Stadium? No, it was on some lawn It was on some lawn No, I'm for real Some lawn Oh, that's a lawn Central Park is a lawn

So yeah, I get it Farrell, Alicia Keys, my Republic her, Carol King Yeah, that's very old That's 2019, baby Oh I'm like her That was when the world was okay

Yeah, I'm like her Yeah It is called the Great Law In Central Park I know I wasn't crazy Shakira Cardi B Tyler Ira Star

Marita scientists Camillo Eliana Yeah Okay Oh I'm sure that was fun Yeah We missed it

But it's fine Well yeah Check out Doja Cat's album I'm curious to see what the visuals look like on this. I'm actually shocked with that type of production that she didn't release, like similar like what Beyonce did with this self-titled album,

like a visual for every single song. Because this is one of those that I think, like, every song warrants. Even if they did like a short film of all the songs, I think that would make sense because there's so much you can do with that 80s pop shit. For sure. But yeah, other than that, she's been on a run. I mean, last from 2021 to 2025, four projects.

Like, she's staying super consistent for being a A-list artist. She's incredible, man. I love Doja Cat. Like, I'm like a Doja Cat fan. I love that. Like a real Doja Cat fan. Maybe she'll come on the pod. Yeah, let's get Dojo on, man.

I might DM her. I'll DM her see if she responds. If she can't come on, we can maybe just do like a chat online. Yeah. Something. Yeah, it's a little chat. Have her in the Zoom Zoom room. She can show us her feet.

Now she's not going to answer. And Demandis can do her bad bunny impression so we can keep the theme of the racist chat. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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The internet been on the internet. Nah. I went back up to New Hampshire. What happened? I don't even know. I went back to New Hampshire. What happened on the internet? What happened on the internet this week?

A lot of shit. A lot of shit that we don't have to talk about exactly, but I'm sure y'all. I mean, we're going to talk about it. But Nikki Cardi. Did we say merch is available? Yes. Nikki Cardi, J.T. Santana. Oh, I was there you about something like important, like the continued

genocide in Gaza. You're talking about Cardi and Nikki. That's not happening on the internet. That's happening in the room. I thought you're talking about like a real conflict the way you, how concerned you sound it. We've come to an agreement that they're going to stop killing people on the Gaza strip. Like, I thought that's what we told. Oh, you're talking about the government shutting down this week. Yeah. No, that's happening in real life, not the internet. Got you.

You've been on the internet. Okay. No, I haven't been on the internet. So what happened on the internet, baby? They give it to us. So there has been some conflict between the female rappers. I thought you're about to say Israel when you say conflict.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead. Look at how we use words though. Yeah. The same thing is starting it's a conflict. It's not a conflict. They beefing. Nobody's conflicted. They made their points very clear.

They don't like each other. They beefed. It's all out war. Like, it is what it is. But go ahead, give it to us. Give it to the people that may not know what happened on the internet, baby, Dee. Go. So the people who may not know what happened on the internet, um, basically Cardi and Nikki been on there.

talking shit about each other's kids. Again? Yeah, but it's bad. It got bad to the point where like everybody was kind of like, y'all need to stop. Like when you're sending direct insults to the children, calling the children slow saying they banging spoons, talking about the children's teeth.

Yeah, it got bad. Banging spoons? They make fun of Nikki's child because they're saying. There's a rumor that Nikki's child is nonverbal or autistic. Okay. So, cardi attack that because Nikki, I mean, because Nikki was attacking culture and talking about her gums and talking. It's just bad.

It just got really, really bad and nasty. Like really, really bad and nasty. And it has gotten to the point where people are kind of like pulling out of it. It's not even like entertaining anymore. And I just kind of wanted you guys's opinions on. I know we say like, for example, the pedophile bar was too far, right? Allegedly the pedophile bar was too far. talking about kids is obviously too far.

And you're not even rhyming. Yeah. Oh, no, there was a whole bunch of A, B, C, D, EFDs in there. Yeah, but. I mean, anytime the barbs say, hey, maybe we should pull back a bit and have some civil discourse, you know something is really, really wrong. This is weird. I also don't care about the theory that Nikki is only saying the things that Cardi has said about people in the past to put

the mirror and we just don't understand the triple entendres. This is gross and disgusting on both sides. I don't care who started who said the kid shit first. Both people are participated and are still participating to continue to talk about children. This is the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen. Two A-list artists trying to one-up each other on Twitter about who can insult their child the most. What are we doing? I know we can have the LOLs. What the fuck is this? who on either side family members, baby fathers, husbands, anybody, somebody

just rip out the Verizon wireless shit in their house. Yeah. Yeah. The PR people are at home just chewing on their, like I would just be chewing my fingernails off if I was their PR. Like, what am I here for? What is my job?

I got eight hours of sleep and woke up and they were still, they were just going through more kids. It got bad. And allegedly it started from obviously Cardi's rollout and everything, her rollout was going great and everything. And then Nikki started, you know, tweeting stats and little things like that. And then she started mocking some things that Cardi was saying on her album. And that sent Cardi into a blind rage.

And my thing is, I just, we've said it before, I just want Cardi to stop taking the bait. because now we were just talking about how she had a great album, great rollout, everything was going great. She did what everybody wanted her to do, and now you don't let yourself get pulled into some mess. And now no one's talking about that. They're talking about this.

Well, also on Nikki's side, Cardi kind of said the same thing we were saying a few episodes ago of Nikki even posting her album date or even getting involved during this rollout. Like now you're putting yourself, you're the goat. Cardi's like, I have two albums out. You came out when I was in high school. Like, why, now we're the same?

Why are you even entertaining me? If you're supposed to be up here, why the fuck is my rollout part of your rollout now for next year? Nikki has now put Cardi at the exact same level. Yeah, but that's, I mean, was it, Cardi, wasn't she on the phone screaming at Ice Spice? And her people, Ice Spice is younger than her. She came out, her album came out when Ice Spice was in high school.

So none of that matters. age and when you came out, if you don't like somebody, you got issue with somebody, you express it. I think this is the wrong way to express it. I think it's one way to go about it. I think it's distasteful. I think it's, you know, but I mean, listen, man, people don't like each other. We know that. People are, you know, competitive. Women, when you have women involved, it can become very caddy and very, you know, just because that's the thing that women have in them, you know, they have that ability to kind of like keep receipts and, you know, weaponize, things with family and, you know, personal things about each other.

And, you know, I mean, it's unfortunate that it's Cardi and Nikki, but I mean, is it surprising anybody at this point? Obviously, these two women don't like each other. We know that. There's other ways to express not liking someone. Yeah, through the music. Sweet away. I just don't know why kids have to come into anything whatsoever to this degree.

I'm not saying there hasn't been in the past when it comes to the hip-hop that kids haven't been involved, little shots here and there. I'm not saying that hasn't happened. I'm not saying these two are the first people to ever bring children into a verbal altercation. But to this degree, it's been three days of just trying to one up kids that are like three and four years old. Who could say a nastier thing about a child? Kendrick. Has he said nasty things about children?

He called Drake a pedophile. But that's not him attacking his child. Okay. That's him saying Drake is a pedophile. You know what a pedophile is? I do know what a pedophile is. But it's not attacking a child. It's not talking about a child.

Not a specific child, yeah, but it's the same thing. Okay, fair. But completely aside from that, with this conversation, calling children out of their name and then talking about certain issues or physical appearance, this is fucking gross. It is. Like, what type of adult or parent would even feel comfortable doing this? And listen, to Kari's credit, I know she would say, what would you say if somebody says something about your kid? Maybe you'd get a tweet out of me, but maybe probably just silence.

and I'm not calling for anyone violence whatsoever. But if you think I'm going tit for tat on Twitter once you bring up my kid, no. Well, that's what she says. She said, I don't even want to keep doing this

because at this point you've got to see me. And not insinuating anything, I'm just saying it would be quiet if it got to that line. There would be no banter back and forth. No, I agree. Fullheartedly, I agree. Yeah, I

I know there are, so there are some conspiracy theories that Cardi and Nikki are stupidest fucking conspiracy theories, but people are like, they're working together for this. And at this point, I'm like, they're not working together. But what I am, what I would like to know is someone is sitting there thinking that this is good marketing. And I'm just wondering where the line is drawn because there is a thing as, there is such a thing as bad publicity. Not all publicity is good publicity. This has to look shitty for whatever brands they work with. This looks bad. If I'm the CEO of a major company and I have a partnership with somebody or I'm paying somebody to sponsor my brand, I would never want them attached to this.

I don't care who started first. You see what I'm saying? But why do you say it looks bad? These are grown women attacking children. Yeah. Like that looks bad for a brand. If I'm the CEO of a major a major brand. Yeah, I don't want this person attached to my brand. I mean, I get it, but what you're saying is correct. When you start talking about each other's children, you know, now that's a whole different level of disrespect and, you know, just nasty things to say. But if we, if we being real, that's, is that not our culture of hip-hop? Who can say to worship about each other? Who can disrespect each other the most? Who can? Is that not it?

Is this that like, I'm not, I'm not as surprised as anybody else is. Like, granted, yeah, they're talking about kids, but it's like, okay. Okay, but you don't think there's an arena for that? Like, they're not on, they're not on stage at summer madness. At URO. Yeah, so that's the only place I can think that where they do. This isn't, to me, no, this isn't hip-hop. Yes, are the two people involved in this verbal altercation, both hip-hop and both rappers?

Of course, but that's, that's not. hip-hop. Tweeting about someone's kid is not hip-hop to me. So I'm not quite sure of your example. I mean, of course, in rap battles, yeah, there's probably no rules on a lot of stuff, whether we agree or not. They've said insane things in URL that I could not even believe people stand there and just take it.

They have the patience of a fucking Jedi. So this is cool. But this is just two people insulting each other's kids. There's nothing hip. Just because they both rap doesn't make it hip-hop. So if it was a beat plan and they said these things... I would say this is a nasty battle. That's what I was...

It is a really nasty battle. This is Acapulco. That's all. We just got an Acapulose. When Demer Sarr said, nobody rhymed yet. This is just statement. I saw Cardi say something. She was kind of rapping on one of us.

I know. I laughed. When they were doing the ABC, the EFG show, I thought it was funny. Yeah. But then it just got to that line. Whenever Nicky had said culture, whatever, I was like, well, here we go. and 48 hours straight of just naming kids. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's unfortunate for it to play out like that.

And again, you know, whenever you start disrespecting each other's kids, it's reached a whole different, a whole different tone, a whole different level. So, I mean, I came here last week, you know, y'all know how I feel about Nikki. You know how I feel about Cardi. I came here, tried to, you know, throw Nikki some base. Said, nah, what she announced that? I was like, nah, that ain't got nothing to do with Cardi.

That's just, you know, Nikki. But it's clear as day. Like, these two women just absolutely do not like each other for whatever. I don't even know where they started. I don't know what was the cause of it. At first years ago, I thought it was just a competitive thing. You know, Nikki being the top dog and, you know, here comes Cardi. They're trying to play somebody in that lane and kind of give, you know, healthy competition to whoever the top female MC is, which we understand in music.

So I just thought it was a competitive thing. And I thought, you know, fan bases, you know, add to that and fuel that a little bit. But it was okay because it seemed like. it was just a competitive rap thing. Like who's the top female rapper? But now it's going way too left. It's personal. It's a lot of behind the scenes.

I believe that it's going on on both sides, things that are being said, information that is being fed both ways, a lot of pillow talking, a lot of, you know, group chats. The rumors that Nikki is schizophrenic or on drugs, right? Why is that to ruin? There's been, because of the things that the, the rants that she goes on, people would say that they don't connect. Accusing Jay-Z of trying to kill her and ruin her career or of like that whole Jay-Z rock nation thing. Even when she was arguing with Cardi, she was throwing that out there. Like she's been attacking Jay-Z for like a year now, damn near. So, and it's just certain things that, like, saying that, oh, they set jewelry.

you swirled up to be killed on her birthday, like, things like that. Like, Mall, I'm asking you as like a barb. Like, you don't, are you not seeing anything weird or, like, maybe anything like a red flag? Like, this is not making sense. Like, this is not normal human behavior. Yeah, but I'm not tying drugs and schizophrenia into it. I think that Nikki is just saying things that she filled. Maybe she has information that we don't have.

I mean, I don't know, but I don't, I don't go to drugs. schizophrenic. Like, if we didn't hear that, if we didn't hear that, that Cardi rant about Ice Spice, would one say she was on drugs and when she was on the phone yelling at whoever she was yelling at, somebody would say that's a drug doubt her tweaking out on the phone, though. Just because she's not tweeting it, but she's actually yelling it over a phone. Okay, so there's a difference between like getting upset about something. I don't, people don't, people don't attribute you cussing somebody out or going off to drugs. Like, that's not, that's just, you just mad, you pissed the fuck off. When shit is not,

making sense or like connecting. But that's what I'm saying. Maybe she has information we don't have. This is Nikki Minaj. You think, do you think Jay-Z is out to ruin Nikki Minaj's career and is doing everything? I don't think that. I'm saying Nikki may have information where she thinks that. I can't call somebody drugged out and schizophrenic because they're saying something that I'm not informed about or I don't believe. To me, that's not a fair to put that on somebody is not fair. Now, do I think going on Twitter and expressing that is the best thing, no. I think that's like, why would you even do that? Like, because first of all, nobody cares on Twitter. I can promise you that. Nobody gives a fuck. No. So going on there and expressing these things that you feel are true and you think are real, for what?

Like, that doesn't, people on, they're just going to use that for memes and to say you're on drugs and, like, they don't care about that. So to me, expressing it there, to me, makes no sense. I never understood why people run to social, media and express things like this as if people care. I promise you people do not give a fuck. But I just can't go to Parms diagnosed with schizophrenia and being drugged out because of what they're tweeting. I'm not doing that. I can't do that because sometimes you do that and you're wrong.

And then now you look like an insensitive person because it's like, oh shit, this person wasn't just going crazy on their Twitter and saying things like, that was really happening. And sometimes it's not happening. You know what I'm saying? But again, I don't put, I'm not here to diagnose somebody with schizophrenia and being on drugs. I don't do that. I don't run to that. I want to ask you a question, actually, because I value your opinion.

I value your opinion. Okay. I love this. So I was reading my devotional today and the message was about forgiveness, right? Okay. Being able to forgive people that have hurt you. Okay. Because as God has forgiven us for our sins.

And I've sinned many a times. Amen. How do you feel about being able to be able to? to forgive somebody even if you don't want them in your life anymore. Somebody that did some fucked up shit to you. And you don't want them in your life anymore. Are you still able to forgive them? I think it depends on where you're at, mentally, emotionally.

If you're at that, if you're that mature, yeah, I've done it. I forgive people that have done some crazy shit to me that most people probably wouldn't forgive. But me not forgiving them does what? You know what I'm saying? I think that energy is just on you. But when you forgive you, like, listen, it's all good and you kind of just move forward. I think that's a little easier sometimes because it's not on you.

It's not like a constant thought or, you know, something that you're constantly thinking of. It's like I'm over that. I've grown since that. I've matured since that. But you have to be at that point, though. You have to be at that point in your life where you just like, because when I was young, like, you know what I battle with that a lot with? finding out who killed my brother.

And I think about that a lot. Like, if I was to find out now, what would my reaction be? Would I want revenge? Or would I just be like, you know, kind of like, like, forgive, move forward. Because that's what the Quran says, right? Forgive and, you know what I'm saying?

You move. But it's like, it depends on what day you ask me that. Just being honest. You know what I'm saying? Some days I'm like, fuck no. Nigel, I gladly go sit down in prison. to revenge my brother's death, you know what I'm saying? But then in some days where I'm like, I can't put my moms through that.

I can't put my nieces and nephews through that. I can't put my brothers and sisters through that, like them having to come visit me in prison and all. Like, you know what I'm saying? So you battle and that's like, you know, that's like the biggest thing they try to forgive somebody for is taking the life of one of your loved ones. But it's like you have to get to that point where it's like,

I forgive and I move forward with my life. Family is blessed. Family is healthy. You look at those things. and you kind of compare it to what would be the point of me not forgiving this person. Like, what is that? What does that do? Now, again, depends on which day you ask me.

Of course. Some days, I'm strong. And some days I'm weak as a motherfucker. If you ask me in a week day, where that nigga at? I'm ready to go. After we did three episodes. Oh, I'm ready to, I'm ready to raise hell. I'm ready to raise hell.

I'm ready to raise hell. Like, kill everybody. You know what I'm saying? But then there's some days where, you know, I get videos of my nephew playing golf and I'm just like, my nephew like golf, that's fire. Like, and I want to see him grow and see him become a man and do things like, do I want to do that from a prison?

You get me? Like, you start thinking about the things that you won't be here for and the things that you'll miss. Me talking to my homeboys that's locked up and hearing how they talk about not being around for their kids and not being around for their family. Like, you weigh a lot of those things and forget. Giving it sometimes is the best, is the best choice in just to move on. Even if you never get an apology. Even if you never get an, because sometimes you don't need it.

There's plenty of things that I moved on from that I don't want an apology from. I don't care to get an apology from. It's like for what? Like I don't, I don't even, this person to me is not even, I don't care to have an apology from you. Like it's just, just stay out my way though. You know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't going to be hanging out, kicking it.

It ain't none of that. I ain't that strong. You know what I'm saying? but it's just like, you know, I'm not tripping either though. Like I'm not bent out of shape. I'm not looking for no apology. I'm not looking for life goes on, man. As tough as that is sometimes to just accept, life does go on.

You know what I'm saying? And you have to go with life. Like, all right, it is what it is. Never forget. You don't forget what you've been through. You don't forget what you went through. You don't forget those feelings and those emotions. But you learn from them.

You grow from them. And you know, you kind of say, all right, well, I have to move with life. Life goes on. To me, I mean, I'm just speaking for myself. I can't speak for everybody. But I think it's easier sometimes to just kind of just forgive and move forward. I agree. My biggest thing is I have a hard time when not getting the apology.

I need because now I feel like. If you're giving that person too much power, too much. You're giving them too much. You know what you need? What you need, what you need that person? Because that's ego. A lot of that is ego that you're talking about. Like, what you need that person to apologize for?

I hate one of a motherfucker like when I know I'm right. Like I know I'm right. Like in this scenario, I know I didn't do anything wrong. I know I'm right. And you just won't give that to me. And I know that that is ego, right? I know that that's ego. And I need to let that go.

But it's like, nah, you need to fucking apologize. But you know. Because you're not even sorry. You ain't even going to even go to pretend to be sorry. Nah. But you know what it is though, DeMaris? Like when you know you right, the truth speaks for you. You ain't got to say a motherfucking thing.

sometimes. You just watch the truth speak and you just sit there just looking at anybody like I tried to tell y'all niggas this however long ago. So something's your own, you don't need no apology

for nobody for what? Nah, you don't need, that's, we tell ourselves that that's ego talking to us. And now he got to say sorry or she got, nah, she can fuck that. She got to apologize for that shit. For what?

She know, she know or he know. He know the truth. He know the real. Like, that's she going to eat them up every you know sometimes when you just remove yourself from people like your presence and your energy that's all you don't need no i don't need no apology from nobody you ain't got to say i'm sorry i was fucked up it was my fault i don't need that because you ain't stop nothing it's been

lit since that like very shit been you know i mean so you you look at that all that other shit is just your ego talking to you like you don't need that shit man we put too much on our but that's again i know because I've been in those situations too. I'm like, I don't even need that. Like, that was stupid. But that was your ego. But as you get a little older, you start understanding, like, it's going like the day going in. And hopefully you see the next day. And that's it. Just move forward. You don't need people to tell you that they fucked up. You're I was wrong. They know that already. And if they get to a place where they are ready to say that and admit that, then cool. But you don't need that, though. Like, so we got to stop saying, I need nine. They got to say,

For what? How do you get better at not operating out of your ego as an adult? I've been struggling more with that with my relationship. Like I've, I peep it now, right? Because I peep it because I'm in a healthier relationship. When I was a very bad space in a different relationship, it was okay for the ego to fly because we was just doing a whole bunch of toxic shit anyway. But now that I'm trying to be in a healthy relationship, I see my ego creep up.

I'm like, ooh, that was ego. That wasn't necessary or that wasn't. or so I'm trying to get better at recognizing it and not speaking from it, but it's like in the back of my mind, I'm like, if something goes wrong and I didn't flex my ego, I'm going to regret it. And I'm trying to get out of that mind state. So help me.

The fact that you're trying to get out of it is great. That means because you recognize it. Like, yo, that's unnecessary. So that right there is enough. Eventually, you'll just see that you're just doing it. Like you just completely removed yourself from having that ego where it's just like, because again, it's, everybody got their shit everybody got their faults everybody nobody's perfect life is tough for everybody

some people's lives are tougher than yours so when you just look at shit like that like from that perspective like let me remove myself and my emotions from this and let me just assess the situation what happened what's going on once you do that you realize first a lot of times the energy you be trying to put into shit ain't even worked it the situation ain't that serious the moment ain't that serious. It's just like, remove that ego, cool. As long as nobody put their hands on you, nobody ain't physically, because I need my lick back. You hit me, Nick. I'm hitting back. That's what we're doing. But if it's just actions and something somebody said, I don't care about that, man. That shit is, that's all ego talking to you. And you get to a point in life where

you just like, no matter what happens, I'm going to do what I want to do. I'm going to enjoy myself. Like, whether people are alone for the ride or not, we're going to have fun. Ego will stop you from experiencing and really enjoying a lot of shit because you're so caught up in your own thoughts in your own mind of what you, how you feel like it's supposed to go and how you feel like it's no, it's not sometimes it's just, it's not what you, you're overthinking a lot of shit, you over analyzing a lot of that shit. A lot of times we make up situations that's not even a real thing. Like that's not even, I hear people like, yo, I don't fuck with that nigga, what happened?

And then niggas tell you what happened. You'd be like, that's what all this, y'all back and forth for that? Like, it be, it's like, yo, y'all just, it's ego talking. Yeah. And that's just, but that, again, that's human nature. We all have it. We all have been through it. But then you get to a point where you understand how to control it.

You understand when and where to use your ego. Because ego is good. It's good to have an ego. But you got to understand when and where to use it, though. And how to use it. Like, sometimes you need ego for competitive things and things like that, like to kind to talk to yourself and get yourself going. But like, pushing it on situations that's not even like serious or worth it.

That's just immaturity. That's stupid. Damn, that's some real-ass wisdom coming from the birthday boy. Thank you so. I mean, I'm just, you know, just trying to, you know. Just trying to tell you know me how it is, man. When you live long enough, you start looking at shit, like, that was stupid. Oh, I should have never said that.

I should have never did that. And I mean, I live, we, I'm in front of a mic and on camera. Like, you know how much shit I say in the years ago and out here now? I'm like, damn, I don't even, I'm not even that person anymore. But it's real. In the moment, it's how I felt. If I'm old and more matured now, of course I don't feel those ways and think like that. I would hope that I've grown and matured since 10 years ago.

You know what I'm saying? Like, shit, I said 10 to 11 years ago. No, I don't feel away about a lot of those things anymore. But in the moment, yeah, I may have felt like that, but that's where I was at in my life in that moment. And that's just, you got to accept that from anybody. Like, that's just who they are. But, again, when you start analyzing shit, just remove your ego from it a lot of times and just kind of look at the whole situation. you'll land on the right side.

Once your ego is going, it's easier to kind of hit the mark. At least that's what I think. I'm just giving you what I think. So in relationships, just remove your ego a little bit.

Yeah. Why he ain't cold me, why he ain't. His world might be melting. This nigga might be going through a fucking depressed state. He ain't verbalized it. He ain't talked about it.

It'd be a lot of that too. You'd be like, yo, why he ain't, why? He's probably depressed. So she's depressed as fuck. That's what I'm saying. ain't got nothing to do with you. Mind me, my problem is that I need everything to be like, I can be very tip for tat.

I can be very like, oh, you doing this? I got to double it. That's ego. I got to stop. I know, I know. I know I'm aware and I try to get better at it, but it's like you wait too long to text me back, back, not in my current relationship, but I would be like, oh, you wait too long to text me back.

I'm going to double it. I'm double the time. You take 22 hours to text me back. I'm going to take three to text you back. Where is that stemming from, though? Where do you think that stemming from? Um, if I was to be real. real honest with myself, like real, real deep.

What I think a therapist would say is that there's an insecurity in making sure nobody plays with me. I don't ever want, I don't want anybody to play with me. I never want to look stupid. And if I was to dig real, real deep into that, it's probably because of shit that I endured in childhood where I was embarrassed a lot as a kid just because of like family shit or things like that. And it's just like, I never want to be embarrassed again.

I take embarrassment really, really hard. So I think that it's that. It's like I'm never going to give you the chance to say that you had like one up on me. Like I don't like that feeling. I don't like that feeling of like not being in control or somebody knowing something that I don't know. Like I'm very nosy. That's why I used to have that phone problem. Not even because I would feel like, always feel like somebody was cheating.

It was just like I never. I used to go through my friends phones. When I was in middle school and high school, I would go and search my name like because it was like or in like in college. because I would feel like, yo, are you talking about me behind my back? Like, is there something that you know that I don't know? Is there something you're saying about me that I don't know? I don't like that feeling. And I'm trying to let go of that because at one point I can see, oh, this has the potential

to ruin my relationship with somebody that I love and I care about because I don't trust that what they say they feel about me. They actually feel about me. And that has more to do with, I'm sure, my own self-worth or shit that I've gone through than anything that they've shown me. So I'm aware of that. So what we all have are insecurity? Insicurities.

Ego. Yeah. Human nature. Human nature. But I'm getting better. Getting old and maturing and realizing your flaws and making those, you know, your strengths and kind of working on that. That's, that's it.

It'll happen. But I'm glad that you understand that that's exactly what that is, insecurity, ego and shit like that, because that's all it is. Once you remove that, because either way, if you do search a man's phone and he's cheating, then what? Then what? Then what? So it's just like either way you go.

Your heart goes. be broken either way. That's okay. You're going to be all right. Hello. You're going to move on. Life goes on, right? If that nigger don't work, get another one. If that one don't work, get another one. But y'all have seen me come on this podcast and be madly heartbroken and then come in, what, a month later. I was like, oh my God, I'm happiest I've ever been in my entire like. It's like clockwork. As the seasons change, so does baby D. As the seasons change, so does baby D. I get it. I get it. It's. It's. It's, It's all good, but, you know, remove that ego and insecurities and, you know, you'll be

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But I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic. of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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