New Rory & MAL - Checking In With 85 South

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

85 South checks in with Rory & Mal to reminisce about their time on Wildin' Out, how they really felt about Rick Ross leaving their show early, and poke fun at Rory's tenure attending a "black computer" school #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today, we are joined by some guys' family that we've been trying to get with for a minute. But, you know, these guys are too busy traveling the world, man, breaking records. I can only see them on Netflix and shit Yeah, you only catch these guys on Netflix and then passing if you're lucky You know, they may wave Yeah, they may see you in the BET media room Yeah, it might see them in BET or some shit like that

But nah, these guys, man are guys that I personally am proud of and watching them You just do amazing things throughout the years And I'm glad that we finally connected And got a chance to have them today in studio Today we are joined by 85 South Yes, yeah We've had one third

We've had DC up here a few months But now we got the entire team here Carlos, DC, Chico How y'all feeling, man? We're good, man, we good. Appreciate y'all for having us, man. This is a nice setup. No, listen, man, we just...

It's probably $6,500 a month to be here. Y'all got a whole warehouse down in Georgia, so don't do that. Yeah, I got the drop from you, man. It costs the same amount as it is for y'all to be in here. You need to move now. I wish it was only $6,500 a month. See what I'm saying?

That's crazy. I'm shooting low. But it's good to see y'all still doing y'all thing. Yeah, for sure. People split up after six months. Oh, shh. That's a whole other conversation. That's a whole other conversation.

But how y'all been, man? You're looking good. Thank you, brother. We've been good, man. They left you out the Gucci group chat to coordinate. Yeah, nobody tells me. He don't be with this shit. Man, he wouldn't wed if we told him to wear.

He got his every two-thump that's killing all this shit. Yeah, the only thing he going to have Gucci in is the inside of a Monte Carlo. He's not putting none on his body at all. When we had DC on, I told a very embarrassing story. We were on a flight together. This was like whenever New Orleans All-Star weekend was and we was getting off the plane

and I went to Dap you to be like, yo, I really like respect what you're doing. You know, I think you're hilarious. I've never gotten a cold shoulder to go reach up to get his bag in my entire fucking life. Who did that dude? Fly did that to you? No, I was telling Fly.

that when he was here. It was me and you on the plane. Yeah. When? This is whenever 2017, 16. Whenever All-Star was in New Orleans, I was on my way connecting flight to Charlotte. That was a nigga that looked like me. That wasn't me.

It's a lot of niggas that looked like me. That was not me. You looked at you and said, thank you, Salin. Yeah, yeah. Nah, not at all. Don't lie on me like that, man. I don't even think you heard me, but it was just one of those like, you probably didn't hear me. You said it like a white man here, man.

Yeah. And that's the wrong time. Like on the plane, we'd. getting off, that's the wrong. But you know, I don't like, I'm not even really that type of guy, but like what Dewin Lose was doing on Wiling Out at that time, I was a huge fan. I was like, let me actually say what's up to somebody I like fully respect. For sure, for sure.

It was in between getting bags. It was connecting flight. We was in Charlotte. And the great part about you probably thought he said it. Yeah. I definitely wouldn't do you like that, gee, because I've been watching y'all, you know, for a long time as well. Like we consume a lot of media always having.

Yeah. Which I even, you know, back when y'all was on Joe podcast. and just how long y'all been doing. And just the dialogue that y'all always brought to the table was always excellent, man. So salute the both of y'all for always keeping it. I know the way y'all just split and did your own thing, bounce back.

And it didn't, you know what I'm saying? The friction between y'all didn't never make y'all fall out. It's right. But we was just talking about that how, like, you know, just people split and this. It's hard to keep everybody on the same page for years. Yeah. Like, you got to have a certain level of just respect,

amongst each other to be able to get everybody on the same page consistent. Like people don't talk about that a lot. And that's something that I would want to talk about with y'all because what y'all have been doing is incredible. Like, you know, I've been waiting. I ain't going to lie. I'm like, something going to happen, man. He's going to get the fighting.

Something going to happen. But y'all seem to have that respect, that brotherhood. And y'all just like, listen, where we come from, we come from humble beginnings. We're just happy to be doing what we're doing. Let's just keep it going. Right. I mean, we like to let us live.

O.G. sit in the pocket and we like to do the talking about when it comes to how comes we stick together so much because it's a, it can contest to, you know what I'm saying, his vision and who he is as a person, you know what I'm saying? For him to even, first off, to even come and reach back. Yeah. He wants to come get us. Yeah.

You feel what I'm saying? With something that he created. You know what I'm saying? And he was just like, I want y'all input. You know what I'm saying? We were like, with this? And I'm like, I don't know. Hell.

Whatever we make it. Yeah. And it's like the vision. Even in the beginning, like, this is a growing process even with this company, bro, and this vision, I even grew. I wasn't who I was when I first came along. Right. I wasn't who I was the first three years.

Once I realized what was going on and I had to pay attention to like, what is this? And I'm like, you know what? What can I do to make it better amongst the group? Because he's doing what he's doing. Chico's doing what he's doing. But I know there's something else that I could be doing. You feel what I'm saying? Instead of just being his friend

and he's just saying, come along. It's like, what you good at, bro? I brought you over here to do that. Can you do that? And I'm like, you know what? Let me just start doing that. And it was just like the vision. Once you respect your comrades' vision,

you don't know where you're going. You never know where you're going. But I'd rather be in the ride with you. Whether we don't do this no more or whatever we do, I'd rather be in the ride with you. What do you think the vision between the 85 Braves? versus the three individual brands you have? What is the difference between those two things?

It's not really a difference at all. To be honest, I was just about to say that. Like, when he was talking about just with Lose's vision, like, he didn't need us to do anything. You know what I mean? None of us need each other to do any of the things that we do. We want to be around each. We make the choice to do the things that we do together

because we understand each other and we understand the power that we have and being able to bring all of our brands together. Like the crazy part that people don't understand is we're all representatives of one, another one. We're out individually as well. If I do something, the first two people, they're going to go look for the ass is them to and vice versa. So we all always have each other in mind when we're moving out here because we know we're representing the greater brand and

the greater scheme. And, you know, we are keeping what we put together together all the time, whether we're all in the same room or we're separate. You know what I'm saying? When you're talking to one of us individually, it's natural that you're going to ask about this, no matter what we do because that's how much power we've put into what we do together. And it's, It's just, you know, you can't, when you look at it from when you've been in the game as long as we have, and you look at how many people have come and came and gone and how many people were doing it at the same time that didn't get a chance to do what we're doing, we understand that this is the power. This is the magic, you know what I'm saying?

And was that chemistry, like, starting with Wiling Out? Because I always felt like it was J'all 3. Justine as well. She's hilarious. But that was the four that stood out to me during that second wave of Wiling Out. Do y' y'all know each other brought of that shit? There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people.

I'm talking about my personal favorites. So let's put it like this. We was at work at Wilder now. All right. It's like us going to camp. You link up with some of your friends that you're like, oh, you're from around the way. You're kind of like the same people. But if you do it together, there's no blueprint for us doing things together.

You know what I'm saying? I don't want to exclude you out but for like black people. Right. Yeah, that's fine. There's no blueprint. I'll survive. You know what there? But there's no blueprint for like, what can we go look at when we do stuff together?

So Wilder not was kind of like the first thing where it was like, look what happened when somebody who's at the top like Nick Cannon and he reached back to go get everybody who he liked who he think not who Hollywood think who he rocked with and then he's trying to show Hollywood this can work right if you just give people an opportunity so if this is my shot let me take a chance with my shot on others that I rock with

so when we was doing what we were doing building our energy at Wiling Out it would just so happen like when we get together at work you see what we do individually on our own but when we together at Wiling Out we boost each other I want to see him do that joke it don't matter if the producers

don't want to see you do that joke do the joke for me food because you know it's funny and I know you really want to do the joke so it's the confidence that we give each other it's that energy that we give each other and we was at work what about if we just go do this somewhere else when we're not being

supervised right because then you got to keep your mind like whiling out we do that three weeks to a month out of the year. Yes. Right. It's like what we're quick. Yeah,

they're very minimal to. No, because it's like, bro, we be backstage. We got all like laughing and playing cars and like in between breaks. Y'all been to the set.

Y'all say exactly, it's like the party. It's the energy. He's doing something. But then he's doing something. And then I'm doing something. Or we got the, the crowd want to do this.

You know what I mean? So it's like, bro, we really got something. And like, just having wild now as the platform. And that was like the gym. It was what we were just kind of working out all the different elements of being a comedian.

Right. And then when we put this platform together, it was like, bro, now we got something where we can not only go over here and be good, but be great. And still be working on the craft at the same time. We can't fail. Right. Like, we could do interviews. We could just get on here and talk shit. We could tell jokes.

We can do whatever we want to do. Right. And we needed that because that's what was a lot of comedians don't get that. Because how it gave us a blueprint of saying what you had to do in order for you to succeed. So it was like, when we were doing certain things at a while or not, and it was working,

it was like, bro, you know how many times they said, don't do that or that one going to work? And it worked. We're being stopped as creatives because we're trying to fit this mold into this box. And it's like,

that ain't who we is. Yeah, we hear when it's coming to on the other side, on TV, but it's like, they try to mold you to be something that you're not. So it's like, all right, let's create a space where we could do what we do and be authentic

Well, we're not being malicious When we ain't coming up as facetious But we're still creating for people Who just like us Yeah So we had Safari on the show That dude, that's a wild dude, bro. Safari is one of the wildest motherfuckers

I've ever met in my highlight So I have to ask When y'all two, I believe it was the old school battle Yeah, yeah Yautu was rapping back and forth And Safari happened to be in the audience And I noticed she was actually improvised What was going through, y'all?

Because you said some of the wildest shit I've ever heard in my fucking life to support. Yeah, like. He played it off well, though. I give us Safari credit. He wasn't even a guess. He was literally just dead. He was saying, and he ran up. He thought he could rock, no, but he could rap.

But he was like, you know, but this is my time. Man, that was a bad time. And the crazy part, like, we would, you know, when we get into it, everything is improvised when it comes to that. You know, when they come to Wilder now, now, certain people, have to go over stuff. They got to stand there and just, you know, you know, we don't do all three of us.

Like we, it was one clip where me and D.C. Just came out and just started dancing. When we don't have to talk to each other, that's the beauty of it. So in that moment, me and Lowe's going back and forth. And buddy run on stage. And we're looking at each other, and I look to the back end.

But time out. Explain how it always initiate. We never starts it, but we finish it. Yeah. He came at Chico. Yeah. He came and he just ran on stage. And he just ran on stage.

I think he said his ring or his watch cost more than what he was wearing. Yeah. And mind you, people, the crazy part, this is what people are all think people are to stay. Is me and Lowe's was battling at first. Yeah. But when he ran on stage, we didn't even have to talk like, we fit in to jump you, nigga. We're about to jump you slim. And if you watch it back now, Lowe's was just lobbing in.

It was just, bha. I'm not behind him sweating because I'm like, I don't know how they're going to take it. Fly the wild fly always ready to just, he's a warrior, so he's just in his mind, he's like, I'm fin that to take off with this.

I'm like, I'm behind you, bro. You like none of that you're saying. It's funny, the genius of that now that you're thinking, because I thought Lowe's was actually defending him well when he was saying, oh, Safari actually wrote them hits.

Not realizing that he was setting you up to, you don't you. Yeah, no. can't dunk on them. Like, that's the, and that's the thing about that those moments in the show, that's what makes it so authentic. Even if you go back to the very first old school battle. Yeah.

Like, Lowe's came, this was the last show, it was French Montana, wasn't it? It was the very last show of the first season, our very first season. And we in between breaks, we go ready to do the wild style. Before the wild style, it's always a break. Lose walked up to me, was like, bet you don't want to battle old school. I'm like, bet. And then he jumped out and we went. And if you look back at the clips, like, we laugh.

about it. You just look and see people reaching for the mic and this niggins. Loz is jukeing niggins with the mic. Ain't nobody getting the mic. We were just like, fucker. We just go do what we want to do. And that's the beauty of, you know, having those moments. This has been what we're doing now. We've all been doing since the beginning. People might not recognize it. But when you go back and look, we've always been in our own pocket, even in a system that we didn't create that we were grateful to be a part of, thankful to be a part of. But we still were always able to find our niche within that and do our thing to be able to stand out in that space.

That's what made some of the best moments for us on wild and outdoors like, like, you know, Chico will tell you, the first season that we was there, it was like, uh-uh,

come on, we got it. We were so serious, like locked in, like, anytime the camera come on. How long did it take y'all to get, like,

relax and just get comfortable? That's what I'm, after you don't, after we were there for maybe a seat, yeah, I'd say, yeah, like you were saying,

maybe two seasons. Because after you didn't do everything. Yeah. Now you're like, man, they know I can rap. What if I go up here and I fuck up? Right.

And then you go up there and you're like, fuck it, you don't. But then it's like the freedom of, okay, even if I fuck up, it's still going to be better than some people's shit than I even. You know what I mean? Right, right.

That's it. So then once you take that pressure off of it, like afraid to fail, then that's when the old wilder now games really just open up to it. With Nick Cannon, because he's somebody that, you know, we don't talk about enough.

think, the platform that he's been able to build and, you know, make people a part of and help people's careers. How forthcoming is Nick when it comes to just those real conversations, like away from the cameras with just as black men, you want to talk to somebody? He ain't the type of person that's going to say some shit just because it sounds good to you, bro. He'll flat out tell you, look, if you want to go to the next level, do this. Hey, you ain't taking your career serious. You don't have the right management. You don't got the right people represent you. You're not in the loop.

I'll never see you nowhere. And he look at stuff like, how many spaces can you get yourself into without having to use somebody else's name or because your partner got you in? It's like he want to see you in the, in the, like the entertainment world. Yeah. And that's where he can really guide you and be like, okay, now you're serious because you're doing stuff on your own mirror. You took the chance.

you're making it happen. And I've never heard nobody have anything bad to say about Nicklin. Because he's gonna tell you like everybody's not gonna be me. Right, right. Everybody not gonna be your friend. Everybody's like, my auditioning and why not?

He's like, I don't know what you said, but I know you funny. Imagine, like, he like, I don't know what you said, but all that right, that was just funny. Imagine that would have somebody that would have been somebody else. Oh, yeah.

And I'm trying to show them what I'm in. They're like, I, eh. Yeah, it don't work. It's like, I got to battle this person that's saying, eh. Right, right. And he like, you know what?

we won't know unless we put them there. Yeah. Let's give him a shot in order to grow. Because he like that. Like, I know, I see that, but it's room. I always room to grow. I want never who I am. And if I ain't never get these opportunities,

I want to be who I am. Right. So let me go back and do the same thing. And that's what we do, even with the 85 side. We go get back. We go get all our partners. Now green, money bad, mafia, Clayton English. We go get everybody who, we got poor mind.

We go get everybody who we like. because we didn't been in that position before. Yeah. I remember we just like it's audition time. Instead of you trying to bring us everything you got, we know what you got, we know your potential. You just need a workspace. Yeah.

Yeah. Like you said, any people told you how good of a person Nick Cannon really was. You wouldn't believe it, though. Like, when me and Chico first got there and while or not, you wasn't there yet. Uh-uh. Bruh. Everybody on there got a Nick Cannon story where he went like over and beyond. Like it was this one producer.

Remember he said Nick, he invited Nick to his niece's birthday party. Nick bought a pony. Yeah. This, like, this is real, like. True story. True story. Yeah. I would be mad at me to be while I was not to take care of a pony.

You know, you're just talking shit in conversation. And then he buy a pony. Now you got a pony. Like, you got a whole baby horse to take care of him now. Yeah. You didn't have a yore. You didn't have a yaw. I'm going to feed this boy.

I'm going to be it. I'm going to be tired of like a yule. That's a great bit. My first introduction of what fame looked like was with Nick. This was before Wiling Out even came back. One of my close friends named Dolly Bishop was working with Nick. She's the head of the Black Effect Podcast Network now. We went to Six Flags.

We went to Six Flags. He did like an open mic show up here that fresh faces of comedy. And we went to Six Flags. And he was like, man, you can come kick it. You know what I'm saying? mind you at this time this nigga don't know I'm just a nigger with a nigger you know what I mean right but just seeing the way that he conducted himself with fame was like my first vision is like is this really what I want to do and seeing the way that he conducted himself let me know that okay

it's a space for people who had a mentality like me who really don't give a fuck about all of that I'm just going to do whatever it is I came to do I'm still going to have a good time I'm to acknowledge the people I'm going to show him love but at the same time I'm still going to live my life and that's you know one of the highest levels of fame at that time that I had ever even been in that close proximity to. So knowing him in that capacity and being around him for so many years, like you just know that the vision

that he has, man, that's what I don't think people give him credit for. Because, you know, usually when somebody has that vision to be able to attach themselves to this many people who he's had a hand in pushing forward. You think about us and Matt Rife. You know what I mean? Pete Davidson. Cat Wood.

Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. Mikey Dave. He does everything at that's a now. I mean, everybody. You know what I'm saying? To have that vision to be able to say and not be walking around boasting about it gives you insight into the type of curve today.

He's not sting you. He never. He never. He never talked about it. You never see Nick Cannon saying, yo, you know I helped. You know I did this. You know, I don't even see Nick Cannon do interviews like that. But you know what he, but I do what he said.

It ought to for you to show appreciation, he just want to know will you come back. Okay. I respect that. Yeah. Because he's human. You know what I'm saying? He's like, just come rock with us. You're not going to get two bitches.

Just thumb back and show love. Come up one time. And guess what? Everybody comes back. What? Yeah. I mean, why not? For what Nick is done for everybody?

You'd look weird. But it shows us like, we don't have come up. And we see folk coming back and he'd be like, okay, we're in the right space, man. Because guess what? We don't have to come back one day. Yeah. All right. If Wiling Out was still going on, would there be some form of a SeaWorld bit?

We still going on? And you guys are doing tour. It's going on? SeaWorld. SeaWorld. What? It's a new festival now. It's going on.

Sea World. Is it at SeaWorld? Yes. Well, SeaWorld. No, people are performing at SeaWorld. Yes. We just had Bow Wow and Soldier Boy.

Yeah. Why are you rapping the little, the whales? The whales is doing the whole thing. Yeah. They're doing Marco Polo for real in the wall. They said to the window, to the walls, niggins. Are they performing for the fish?

Where the people? Oh, no. The people have there are. Oh, okay. And they lit, too. I see the people. You got some volume No, you got to turn around

They're just showing them It's a whole Like I think Waka flaka might be going Yeah, so they're going to crazy Oh, okay And it's promoted like This is what you're gonna see

They didn't hit y'all up yet I know they They got to see world They want to get them to see world Yeah, that's a way to get you To come to SeaWorld for sure Yeah, I thought we banned SeaWorld I thought we did the documentary

Yeah, I seen it Like we wasn't fucking with SeaWorld Where happened that C world? The fish and activity like that's just animal cruelty those whales aquarium my nigger no the whales is they're not supposed to be in no tanks like that what what they're pulled to be in the ocean ocean so we can't we when we gonna see a whale go whale watching god damn people do it they brought the whales to us but that's what they're saying

is a problem that they're not supposed to do that who peter yeah well yeah it's a lot of but then just a lot of animal rights people in general saying because basically we got to give everything bad starfish i know one thing no things like that no No, no, you can't just pick out the well. No, no. But that's the biggest attraction is the dolphins in the whales. I bet the dolphins probably hating like them over. Another pay cut so they can pay you soldier boy and bow wow.

That's crazy. So what? They brought Bow Wow and Soldier Boy. They took the wheels back. They did yanging twins already. You yank twin went crazy. Yeah. I saw that one.

No, they're in shape. They should be on some festival stations. They go crazy. Waka is July 26th. Wow. You be out there with him? Hmm? You'd be going to.

Yeah, he said it like he, like, Like he's like, I bought the seasonal pass. Oh, yeah. No, flash pass. I skipped the line. What's he were in at Orlando? This one's in San Diego.

Oh, okay. I love the 90s. You have Rob Bass, Tretch. Rob Base, it takes two? Yes. Color me bad. Wow. This is just, that's one set.

That's the I love the 90s. Yeah. And I thought they got rid of the, uh. Oh, look. That Joe is Saturday. Hold on, but can we, but can we all take note of that when people

I would try to say their business, who they come to. Us. But I said that. I said they're using hip hop culture, black culture again, to make SeaWorld, quote unquote, cool. Use the black whales and the black man. That's crazy.

Everything. Anything on the planet that needs to be looked at as cool has to come through us. We have to stamp it. Pay attention. Why y'all ain't going to get vanilla ice, man? That's crazy. Like, that's, you know, I mean,

with having a conversation with somebody about that, like, our greatest export is our culture is black men. You know, I mean, that's what we give the world is our culture. But it's the thing that's been stripped of us the most in getting the credit. You know what I'm saying? Like, we create everything, like rock and roll music. Right.

Every form of music. And you go down any type of entertainment, culture, it comes from sports, everything. It comes from us, absolutely. Hockey. I don't know about hockey. You think we got hockey. Hockey was us too? We started a hockey.

We started out of Hockey. Yeah, free slaves started out of hockey. Free slaves started out of HACA. Yeah. In Canada. Yes, sir. God. Damn.

Run away. Everything, bro. Like, just don't even... There's some white people right now. Like, God damn it. They can have everything. But hockey. Hockey, we not give them.

That's all the fucking shit, man. I mean, the only thing you might be able to give them is NASCAR. They might have started that one. You know? Talk about a weekend. Talk about a great weekend. NASCAR? Yeah.

I've never been in NASCAR. I have. We drove NASCAR. He went, he had a real. Yeah. He had a super race. I wrecked one. Yeah.

Is it, like, footage of this? Yeah. It was on. the first season. I heard the white man and pulled up Bill Franz Sr. Disrespect my people. That's called innovation right there.

That's what that is. Yeah. Well, that was in a... I know cars won that fad. What a head that would. That shit looked like Jersey. No, they still race those. And Winston-Sillam, right?

Where I live at, they still race those types of cars at a Bowman Gray Stadium. Yeah. They still raised those. You're a big car, guy. Yeah. What's your favorite car that you currently on?

I can't pick a favorite. But one of my favorite causes the 69 Camero. Yeah, I'm thinking about getting the old school, man. I got every one. I've been fighting. Don't. Which one? Nick. Just get one if you do. Don't just get one. Don't get one. Don't get one.

It's a daddy. I'm talking about it. It takes the patience of Job to deal with that. I don't know how this man does it. I was looking at my homeboy out west. He, like, he builds like a lot of old schools and he's been like, like, like, he finds like the cars that already like kind of in the lots and he's like, listen, we just buy this. We'll fix it up.

standing at third. So he's been sending me a couple of cars, but I don't know it, but I definitely want one. I got one. You're going to hit one hot hole in the Bronx and it's going to be over. Yeah, I was about to say up here, it's crazy.

Like, you were a half of old school up here. Where are you going to put it? The sock's going to kill your whole suspension. It's going to cost you more to park it than it is for you to build. Oh, look. Don't let them talk to you out. I mean, we'll put you something together real night.

Yeah. Yeah. What kind of car you look? What kind of car you look like you drive? Chris? Like a Bronco type. Maybe a G-body, a Monte Carlo cutlass type.

I'm not mad at my... Grand National. I can see you probably owning a Chival. Okay. Or something like that. Cutless or something. Something Cudlow is something.

Something Cudlow is going to go too crazy. He's a... First of all. He's a vegan and he likes Elon. You don't like the Grand National? Take that into play. That's true. He's being funny.

Oh, I forgot. He's been funny. I'm glad you forgot. I forgot you got jumped in, my man. Damn. Take it back. Hey, Roo's talking about that shit, though. be going crazy, bro.

But in fairness, Lose, it'd be at the room, at them. Now, you'd be going crazy. You'd be on the camera, like, fuck you! But it'd be because of what they're saying. It's not really what's going on. It's like, and all we say is like, hey, I kind of like Kendrick.

Do you think the people don't turn it on you, boy? They go crazy. And it's not in that serious game. That's crazy. I mean, you still make a good music. Make great music. That's what I'm saying. Nothing is going to change on for him.

personally. No, life is going to be great. I wanted to ask, what made you pick sides in the rap, why would you pick sides? It wasn't so much about picking sides. It was, the things that people were saying, it was like, it was convenient amnesia. Because it's like, all have been outside the past 15 years. You know that this guy has dominated

music the past 15 years. Let's not act like in this moment we just forgot about what he's done the last 15 years. That was my biggest thing that I just didn't like. And then it was the things that people were saying, oh, he's a culture of old. He's just, it's just like how many niggas didn't he put on? Like he gave all of these dudes their biggest looks.

Like, I'm not getting past you. I'm just saying, but in that moment, I just didn't understand it. I was like, because I don't, because people do that a lot where they just, when it's convenient, it just kind of like, throw away what somebody has done.

But you don't understand that, though. You don't get the reason why, because it's like, you look at somebody like Floyd Mayweather, who was 50 and no, we never saw Floyd lose, but everybody tuned in to see him lose. Right. So in the event that he would have. It's the greatness.

Yeah. It's the greatest. And then, Anthony would have lost. Then once that, that loss would have overshadowed, that 49 and one, that one would have overshadow all 49. And that's just the way society works. Like, when you see somebody who has never lost, who has been winning in front of the world the whole time.

And I get that part. And they take a loss. Everybody conveniently forgets all the wins. I get that part about it. But it was also because it is a personal relationship there. And then the pedophile thing I didn't like. Because I know him personally, and he has a son. I didn't like that.

And I was like, for Kendrick to do that, because I respect Kendrick as well, people lost that in this whole thing. They don't like, they don't hear you saying. Yeah, and I'm like, I fuck her Kendrick. But if we're going to keep hip-hop. Keep it G. Come on. We don't play with that word than hip-hop. You don't just throw that, unless it's valid.

If it's valid, then fuck that nigga. Yeah. But if it ain't, we ain't going to use that to just dance and no, no, no, no. Okay, but in the same vein, Roy is the father of one of your children. Crazy thing to say. But I think it's now. Maybe. I heard.

I think that's been an easy one to figure out. I mean, I was saying. Like, it's just that, you know, when you get to going back in the war of words like that, I don't think that there's any, you know what I'm saying? And that's fucked up the pedophile shit. That's something that's crazy. But it's like, you know, you from the street.

You know what it's like when a nigga, the nigga, your mama. But we ain't never play with that, though. No, I mean, no. We ain't never play with that. You know what I'm saying? I've been around some, y'all have been around classic road sessions. I bet you ain't nobody ever called nobody.

that? No, not unless you. But I've never heard anybody say, yo, I heard you beat your wife in like just a Joan. Even with that funny way. That's strong. There's no more games. There's no more jokes. There's no more that word. We don't play. You don't throw that word around, bro.

That's right up there with snitch. That's worse than that. A pedophile is the worst that you could ever be in. Sex offender. You understand? So that's why to me it was like, if we're going to rap, let's rap. If we're going to throw shots, throw shot.

Right, right. We don't see cats in this culture, hip hop music, unfortunately lose their lives behind words and rap beats. And neither one of those gentlemen ever used that word. Yeah. That's all I'm from that era. So I know what this rap. If y'all go ahead and go at it.

I like this shit. I love sport. Yeah. But we can't do that. We can't play with that, though. And it's crazy part. Condoms in your baby seat is kind of up there, though. No, that's not.

No, that's not the same. Yeah. If your baby is in the baby seat, if your baby is in the baby seat, and I throw the condom on your baby. That's crazy. Oh, now we have a good level. And he picked up and like, I love this in there.

Yeah, yeah. That's a dip. Now we have war. Now we can die behind this sheet. Now we can meet up and die. Now we can meet up and die. We got to meet up and die. Now we can meet up and die if we throw a used condom on my baby.

We're going to eat up and die now. But if the baby ain't there and I'm just in your, I'm still on meet up and die. if you throw a used condom on my babysit. Nah, I'm still meet up and die. That's a crazy. A hundred percent meet up and die.

Hell, no, that ain't that true. You throw a used condom on my baby seat from a fan. Meet up and die. Who did have threw a condom on the babysit? Jay-Z. That's wild. That was, that was,

yeah, that was, that was wild. That's insane. That's insane. You apologize for that. Yeah, that was great. That was crazy. I think Holtz mom made him

apologize. Because his mom made him, but she's mom like you can do that? Do you think that, you know, looking to using that as an example, do you think that there's ever reconciliation available between those two?

Kendrick and Drake? Yeah. Absolutely not. So you think that if... I know that. They will never, they will never be... They will never be cool again. People said that about Nause and J2 back then. You remember.

But they didn't go, they didn't go to that extent. I mean, but, you know, they did to and they went to a different extent. They were talking about running the motherfucker out of the studio. You ran out of the studio. Yeah, but that's... Yeah, New York niggas was ready in the street. That's like, if I see you and we got, we had beef, then it's like, yeah, we're chasing you out.

That's, we've seen guys make up from Jaru. I mean, 50 and Fat Joe was beefing heavy at one point. I was just trying to say, because you know that's never going to be. No, 50 and Fat Joe was beef and heavy at one point. For sure, for sure. Now they had course out of the Knit game. So you are accustomed to Kendrick and Drake more to Jarlow and 50 than to Jay and Oz. The reason why the Kendrick and Drake thing is, like I said, it sits by itself in the history of rap beef is because that word that was used, we've never heard that in hip hop before.

we've never heard another MC call another MC a pedophile. It's never happened. I understand. You don't play with that word, bro. I don't understand how people don't comprehend. And if you have kids, if somebody's like, are you kidding me?

You will die behind that. I play with kids? That's crazy. You're telling me that I rape children? That you're telling people I rape kids. You're going to die behind those words in the streets. That's a fact. Nobody need to ask surprise about that.

Not saying nobody's going to die. No, no, not in this situation. I'm saying if we're in the streets, and he's like, yo, you're a pedophile. everybody's leaving. If you had to cook out and somebody, gregers is leaving. Like, all right, fan, we out.

So that was too far. That's where the line got. Way too far. You don't play with that. But if it's valid, let it be known, so then we know to immediately get this nigga out of the culture.

If it's valid. But if it's just for sport and just to make a hit record and embarrass him or not, we can't play with that word. Even if the line is, I heard you like him young, the same way I heard Dave Free is the...

And the same way he says... Now you got a point. And the same way he said... I heard you like him young. And the same way he said certified pedophile. Yeah, Baca has a weird case. Why is he around? If you go into Baca's case, I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty.

What the courts of Toronto said, he was around young prostitutes, certified lover boy certified pedophile. He was suggesting that Baca is the one that is the pedophile. Hold on me. See, he had a weird case. It's weird. The details is murky. Hold on, hold on.

Hold on time out. So even the ad lib, even the ad lib is murky. That's it. Hold on. I'm not saying he did shit. It's the paperwork is questioning. So even the ad liable may say that. Oh, maybe, yeah.

I mean, you gotta go to the Twitter Rabbit, Bradford. Yeah, I'm not that. I like that name music. Oh, Vaca makes a great music. Yeah, it's a good. But granted, I don't know much about the case. It's a weird case.

I'll get you a point, though. We're not going to sit here and act like if we had some bad business in here, we ain't going to throw some Drake on because we know that's what they like. Drake is one of the greatest that's ever done. But we know that. So we're on vacation.

We're on a boat. We got some bad business and some drinks and shit. You're going to play as, bro, he's dominated music. Come on, man. But that's the part I didn't like. I was told you to all. I listen to Drake and a white boy.

He's all of these things now. And it's like, yo, but he also helped all of these guys that are now currently dissing him. Yeah. But I just, I'm the time. I never picked size in a rap. Yeah. I've been chilling the whole time. Like, even when, even when, when Jake went to, right.

Like, even when meek and Drake went at it, right? Yeah. I want to say I picked the side. I just knew the background I came from. So I was like, meek. Right back. I'm a root for you. Yeah.

But I'm going. like, this nigga Drake is cold. Yeah. God damn. But even when y'all do the white, y'all pick, y'all battling. Right. I'm ride with my men. Right.

I'm behind my man. Right. That's all it was for me. Yeah. It's like, I'm behind my nigga. Like, nigga, yeah, go ahead. But then when that came, I was like, whoa. Right.

Like, what is this now? Like, we don't play with that type of way. And you're a real one for not switching up, though. I can't, a lot of people did. Bro, I can't. A lot of people did. The easiest thing I've ever done is be myself. Yeah.

And I don't care what's happening. bro, that's which is why I never joined a gang. I never got into drugs. I grew up in one of the most treacherous parts of the Bronx, bro. Grew up in Harlem. Treacherous. Back in your day, you had to been a decepticor.

I ain't got her. I was dead. I was dead. I was born in 19181. There had been a deceptic car. But, yeah, like, you know, when you in those neighborhoods when we all come from, it's easy to fall in the bullshit if you don't know who you are.

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Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift, who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to ask you this question, though, because I asked a lot of people coming up from that. I always had those type of dialogues as I come up in, you know, growing up in D.C. in the streets and all that and was active. But I also understand that a lot of what I didn't have to go through was because of nepotism, because of who my people were.

Were you the beneficiary of that as well? Of nepotism? I stayed away from... And the streets, not, not, you know what I mean, as far as like the actual definition of it, but, you know, your brother being who he is and your people being who they are, that benefits you at all

and being able to stay away from a lot of the things you were able to stay away from. It benefited me in the sense that my brothers, you know, when they was in the streets, I was still very young, but they never glorified that to an extent. Like, they didn't, like, my brother might have punched me in my face

if he knew some of the shit I was doing away from them. Mm-hmm. That's how, like, they never wanted me to even think about going that right. So it was dangerous, nigga. Exactly. It was the dangers of it. You know what I'm saying? And then when they started Rockefeller, Rory knows it to this day.

He was like, yo, you're crazy. I never worked at Rockefeller. I never was in a video. Like, I stayed, excuse me, I stayed as far away from that shit as I possibly could because I felt like I wanted to carve my own lane. Yeah, but still people saw you and knew. Yeah, but they respected it more because they knew that I wasn't trying to get in, like you said, on somebody else's name, my brother's name.

I wanted to go somewhere as mall. Like, I'm going in as me. If you fuck with me, you fuck with me. Not because, you know, my brothers are who they are. Not because, you know, if Jay Z see me right now, he going to hop out the call. Like, come on, nigga, we're out. Like, I stayed away from that. I tried to keep that as far left as possible because I just felt like niggas might just start asking me for shit.

You're my man. I didn't want to deal with none of that shit, bro. I got my homies. We do what we do. Some shit I did I wasn't supposed to do. But again, I'm young. trying to find my way. My brother's found that way.

And I'm like, cool, that's dope. But it was hard for me to be in the studio with Jay-Z all day and then get on the train and go back up town of the hood and be like, all right, well, I was in Bentley's last night with Jay-Z. I'm on the fucking D-Train tonight. That wasn't my reality. Now, I can go be a part of that if I want to be. Oh, I can create my own reality.

So I chose to create my own reality. I got you. I mean, that makes sense. That's commendable as a man, though. But still, you got to give credence to the fact. that when you were able to look at those people in the environment that you come from and be like, man, I ain't with none of that.

Y'all got going on. They knew that, you know, if we do something to him, it's some other dudes we got to see. Oh, no, for sure. No, that was part of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that definitely protected me and kept, you know, they knew I had brothers behind me and people that was going to pull up, if anything,

if anything, right. But I also wasn't a knucklehead just outside. Outside. Yeah, no, that's the good part. Like, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't one of the people but that was out like, you know, utilizing that to my dad. It's like, yeah, because I know if you do something to me. But that's like if the one thing I don't like is when niggas get on and make their homeboy head of security.

Now, if something happened to some pop, well, if you want your man to be the nigga that might get shot or get killed, I never understand. I'm talking about now if your man is trained and he has, you know, a background and, you know, security. That's what he does. But don't just take your man off the block. I'm like, yo, you're security now. Yeah. Why? Because if it pop up

If you want your man To jump in front of this bullet It ain't that It's just shit I'd rather have you with me Versus another nigga That's a little nigga I know gonna go

It ain't in that It's just like I'm not gonna be in nothing I'd rather you Right I don't know My security You my security

You know what I'm saying My eyes and ears I don't want to go hide Nobody And then you're still on the block Yeah but I never I was never like Because I've watched people

Walked their man into some bullshit Because that mean day in bullshit Exactly And I was never that I was never a knucklehead Like whenever the nigs, they were gonna do this I'm like

Nah, I'm chilling I'm in the crib bro For sure For sure For sure Always I've always had Discernment The type of people

I was around Only because I knew the dangers I've seen it Like I said One of my closest friends He's down for a murder right now But we had lost You know

In the early 2000 Mid 2000s We kind of split ways Right He fell into some whole other lifestyle And I'm over here And then when I heard about him I'm like

Wait he doing what We used to play Super Nintendo He was cool Coolest Nick on the block Now he down for a drugs. I'm like, you can't,

it's easy to make that left. Right, right. When life hits you, you're like, damn, I got these bills. Baby mom's tripping. Fucking, I'm gonna go get the shite

and go run down on these niggas. It's easy to do that. Right. It's easy. And to get up every morning at 7.30 and get a hard-working, man.

For sure, for sure. And for the record, you know, you know how folk be like, you know, we control the narrow. Man, we rock with everybody. You rocked with everybody.

Yeah. Yeah. Everybody that's, I forgot what I was talking about that. But you know I'm gonna still be dwelling on the shit like, hell no. Man, hey man, we rock with air by the problem. I fuck with it.

That's one thing I'm proud myself. I don't got beef with nobody. For sure, for sure. If a nigga got an issue with me, I don't even know. That's good. If a nigga don't like me, I'm like, I never even met that. But you know what? When I was coming up, I always thought that was weird to me.

When I was like, nah, because I used to be like naive to the fat. Like, you know what you mean? Like, what did? Because I had to do something wrong for you to like me. Right. In order for you, I just don't wake up and be like, I'm going to like that nix. I don't like this person.

I want to raise to not like nobody. Right. You know what I'm like, why? Right. What did I do? What did I do to make you? When somebody like, y'all don't like you, I'm like, what I said? Because that's the older could be.

You heard I said something. I said something on my show. You didn't like it. But do you not like what I said or do you not like me? Some people don't like you because other people love you. Which is weird. Yeah. I had to learn that though.

I didn't understand that for years. It's always. Like I've grown, like older in high school. Yeah. It's always been. it's never something I did to them and something I didn't do form. Right.

That'll make a motherfucker. But how do y'all deal with that now with your success though? I don't give a fuck. Yeah, you got to, at this point, you know what I mean? You didn't been through it so long. Like, for all of us, like we, from different places,

but all of our backgrounds are very similar being that we were all somebody prior to becoming somebody in the public eye. Yeah. So we were dealing with a lot of the things that come with celebrity before there was any real celebrity. So you kind of get a, you build up a tolerance to the bullshit. Yeah. You're getting talked about,

because it's always been, I can say for all three of us, before any of us were famous, more people knew who we were than we knew. So that comes with a certain level of, you know, you having to deal with people talking about you, people having an opinion about you, people wanting to do something to you because people love you, all of that type of stuff.

So once you actually get into the fame of it and you realize it doesn't do anything, but elevate, if you already got those, you know, that skill set built up and make it a little bit easy, it doesn't stop the bullshit that comes with it because it's certain people

that's going to hurt you if they fuck you over no matter what you got going on. It's just certain people that had that type of credence in your life. But as far as I know for us, as I've watched all three of us deal with adversity and just, you know, been proud of the fact that they're like, man, these niggas is warriors. These dudes are beyond strong to be able to deal with all of the shit that the world has and then the things that the people that we are assigned to do as well, you know what I'm saying? 90% of the people who don't fuck with us just talk shit, but they can't talk more shit than us.

Right. You get what I was right? It ain't even, it's not even real. We were talking about that shit earlier, bro. I mean, I get why people dislike us, but to dislike y'all I could never understand. Who the fuck do y'all bother? It ain't even that. Some people hate laughing.

People get mad. The nigger hate laughing. The nigg I don't need to be arrested. I get, I get with hardware split up and fan bases split and weird internet shit. I understand why people could dislike Maul and I for no reason, but I get why they dislike it because they have allegiance to other shit. Y'all don't bother nobody. No, people get mad. because you are who they're trying to achieve to be.

Some motherfuckers. They're like, damn, I want to be, how's he getting what I want? I'm funny than Chico, I'm funny. Yeah, and it'd be like, damn, I ain't even know we was in competition. Yeah, I don't even know. I didn't even know what was in competition. Yeah, that happens all the time, but you got to block that out,

you know what I'm saying, you can't pay attention to that because the reality of what people come up to us and tell us, like, it's just, I look at it, I call it the rule of 100. it. Like if you got a hundred people in the line and 99 of them got $100 handed out for you to grab, most people will go to the last person that got their hands down and argue with them about why they ain't got nothing for them. And you passed by 100 motherfuckers who got love and gifts and admiration for you to go to the one person that has something negative to say. And that's really the mentality that we, when we out and people see us, it's love. So we've tried to be a day of that.

time, brother. The motherfuckers who don't like me, those are the same kind of people that dig in their ass and smell their face. Motherfucking, right in their ass and bite their fingernails.

Are these even people I want to be associated with anyway? They take a shower and then take a shit. I'm talking about people who watch their ass friends, then their face.

I don't want to be friends with them. Bro, these are there are people out there that put dicks in their mouth. You think I give a fuck what they say out of that mouth that had a dick in it? I don't care. Br, you enjoy shit that I can never

wrap my mind. We are not the same. You're not the same. You're not supposed to like me. I get why you don't like me. You need to find somebody else you can fuck with. That's going to be all right with the shit that you be doing. You're a dick in his mouth.

He don't even have the right mouth to say something good about a nigga like me. That's a big fucking mouth. This nigga is crazy, though. This nigga is crazy. Holy shit, man. Scratchez. And bite the fingernail, bro. Fuck them people.

Yo, man. I'm talking about these. You have a pull up at the light and it be a motherfucker and you know they flicking the bug out of the country. Those are the people who don't like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, that's a fact, though. He's right.

He right. Yeah, that's crazy. This thing got me a fit. You went from the country. Oh, my God, man. Country shit. Loaf's waiting to get that off. He's hoping that in.

The people don't like me. People dicking their ass and smell that. And the smelly fucking glass. You know how many people do that in real life? Oh, my God. Hell yeah. Weird motherfuck. A matter of fact.

Oh, man. Oh. Let me see what it. Digger, you know what it smell like. Shit. Smell like shit. Hey, man. Yeah, man.

Oh, my God, man. I have done that with some pussy I was fingering. Oh, shit. That's different, man. That's different, man. I may have even bit my nail after. See, that's what I mean about what we do. Like, this happens all the time.

People think this shit, like, this happens. Oh, we make each other laugh like this all the time, man. Like, when nobody's watching, when nobody's around. Yeah, the best shit happened when the cameras was off. I mean, not it's just all the time. Imagine the producer saying you can't say that. Yeah, exactly. And the nigger lied, man.

Fuck that. That shit, my d'all. That shit going to bang. Just so I can see it. Have y'all had a chance to, I don't know we spoke to D.C. last time. He was here about it. Have you had a chance to talk to Ross since he walked off on you? Man, we were just talking to Angie Martinez about that yesterday.

I don't know. He don't even think it's nothing to talk about that. Ross got some new cookies out, right? Some protein cookies. He just mailed me a jar cookies. Oh, yeah? To the studio. Okay.

We've, me and D.C. We're in Atlanta, so we're running to a. them all the time he's been no hard feeling I don't want to say no hard feeling yeah

now DC said he was hurt but it is a hard feeling because okay I'm gonna say first of all I don't give a fuck yeah I get it but I give a fuck because

I fuck with you as a purse yeah yeah see what I'm saying before let's just say before all that happened right yeah let's just say before all that happened

bro I'm listening to you Ross I feel like you want to hey shut the fuck up I'm listening to you Ross I feel like you

probably one of the best lyricists from the South that we got you dig what I'm saying like you poetic bro when I listen to your music I think you put a lot

of time and effort into this shit so I'm listening to your shit now only that nigga I fuck with everything you do you fuck with wings stop I'm gonna fucking wings stop

you got you got shit you got you got everything I'm gonna go we're gonna buy out yeah this ain't

promo marketing like your PR team and came and brought all this shit around this was here this shit

set up so you can see we rock with you. You see what I'm saying? Now, do you owe us an explanation? No. Right. But as niggas who fuck with you, I think it's just something to say,

hey, man, just a little respect to be like, hey man, this is what I got to go on. Let me, I can respect that. That's cool. This is when it gets insulting. This is when it get insulting because we're the type of people that will never bring up nothing

that we feel like that can be diminished to your career. real anything nigga because we some real niggas. Yeah. The moment you leave our show, you went and did a podcast, a white podcast, you sat your

ass right there for almost two hours. And didn't leave. And you talked. And the white folks asked your ass your ass, was you a fucking correctional officer. Yeah. We would have never asked you no shit like that and then we got respect for you. Right. And you sat

right there and you answered that question. So, eloquently, eloquently. You got it. You digger what I'm saying? Yeah. Like it wasn't even disrespectful. Yeah. And then I get to sit back and watch that shit and be like,

damn, what's the difference between them and us? Okay. Now I feel disrespected. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Because it's like, damn that, nigga has a man, my nigga. Come on. Don't say money.

Right. We got it. Right. You got it. Right. But, nigga, we fuck with you, bro. Don't do us. like that and it's still love

but nigger don't do us like that I respect that I respect that you feel it was when he did say something about it that that kind of struck me the wrong way was when he was like the little homies and you know we're gonna die

me know I'm gonna do this for well if you really feel like we the little homies and we're your little homies like that is that how you do your little homies my nigga because when you left we ain't take none of that shit off the table we kept it right there

and kept doing what we was doing. So it was never no disrespect on our part. And we've had many guests come through that, you know, we protect. We protect our people. We protect our people. So it wasn't a situation where we felt like it was something that we thought was going to go to where it went. We just got a product that we love and we love each other first. So we're not going to let us look bad for nobody if we can help it.

So that was the reason why it even went. the way it went, but as far as like now getting the explanation of feel, it ain't even about that, but it's just about the, you know, like you said, the respect and the love are just saying, hey, man, you know what I mean? If nothing else, come tell us why you left. You know what I'm saying? Come sit down and let us know. And even if you don't want to tell you, if that's another thing that we can't ask you

about, at least come back and let us clown on the fact, let us all come back and get up and leave on you and leave you sitting on the couch what time, just for fun, you know what I'm saying? We got something similar like that to, somebody that I really fuck with as an artist, we're supposed to have two chains on. Right. And he was coming to the studio and maybe like two hours or hours before he's supposed to pull up, his people hit was like, yo, he got a family emergency. He got to get back to Atlanta.

We're going to double back, you know, next time. Wasn't in the studio. We had a whole thing set up in Jersey. We had all sketch. Whole shit. Like we were going to shoot with him. And I understand. What you say, family emergency?

All good. Go take care of family, bro. This ain't. This ain't more important. Yeah, yeah. But we can't tune into the game at 730 and see you court side at the hogs game, though. That's a family emergency. But see, y'all don't know what, y'all don't know what the family emergency was.

Before the Hawks, though. I'm with you. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you.

I'm just saying my first reaction was I feel away. I'm like, no, but I get back. I handle the family emergency. And I go to the game. And I man. That child motherfuckers that made me fly all the way back here. And now I got to go to the game to be able to be able to make my sense. self be at ease for what I just had to come home with it.

For sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Because I think they don't understand, like, the dynamic of the side of having a platform. Because people reach out to us all the time, you know what I mean? But it's not to the point where we're going to move shit around and cancel shit just to accommodate you. Right.

So when we do make accommodations for you, a lot of times when it's not respected, then it feel crazy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And the crazy part about it, it don't, it don't, It did not stop me from listening to his music. Do I be a little angry as I'm listening? Yeah.

I'd be like, when you come all back, yeah, turn that shit up. No, I cut it up. I'm like, yeah. I'll be a little mad, but I still bump that shit, you feel? You're just some whack shit, but I still don't know what I'm in. Not to play schematics, but you know, when you get people who, maybe you got somebody who's a bigger star,

and then they stay two hours. Yeah. And they show love. Yeah. It make you wonder like... What the fuck really going on? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

100%. It's other motherfah, you're not the biggest. At all. At all. Or how you look at us when it comes to our platform. Right. Like you tell you some other podcast sat down there. That's why I was saying, like I don't know these nickers.

And they ain't even us, nigga. We're going to protect you. Like he said, we're going to protect you. Yeah. We're going to protect everything you stand for. Everything you live for. Even if we heard some shit. We ain't need them type of nigga to bring up good shit.

We want to talk about good shit. We don't have to. You left for us. when it sat down and let them folk spill whatever beans they want to spill and be like,

bro, we would have never did no shit like that and you sat there and that were cool? Yeah. What was different with us? Right. I'm hurt, nigga.

And we in this game with integrity, bro. There's people out here who try and their best to get on podcasts and big platforms like, you know,

85 and they want to, man, how much is it? No, it ain't a money thing. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's the part that they be missing. That's the part.

They're like, if we're not angry, it's the integrity. How much you get on there, bro? It don't worry like that. People say that to me all the time. What I got to do to get on the show, whatever it is you do, keep doing that. Yeah.

And we'll notice it. It'll never be a dollar amount that going on, man. We're not taking on money. We don't attach our money. And regulators is called, publicists, call. We don't attach it. We don't attach it. We don't know.

Biggs out of that guy out of us. He pulled up because we fuck with them. Right. Even if your PR team and all the recollabble, hey, man, just pull up and figure out of date. Don't send us next. it. Right. Yeah. We're pulling up on our own time and we're going to do it because we rock with these folks. We need it for that. And even with the Chains thing, like, you know, I'm not

putting this on serious. They were our partner at the time. But that it was facilitated through that. So I don't even know if Chains had a family emergency. It goes through three to six reps in between of what he's doing. Chains could have been like, yo, I'm exhausted. I want to go home, respect to them. Which is cool. I respect that. And I would have been like, bad, the amount of times I've had to do interviews and I just be like, yo, I can't, I can't I can't do it. He could have said that, and they're trying to keep relationships

on whatever universal and serious is and just made up some shit, like family emergency. Can't say anything to that. Chains me have not even known that that was said to us. But one thing I do know, in between and the agents and all that,

sometimes people don't respect the relationship you and the artist guy. Yeah. So some might have been said, they may think it ain't that serious. And you were like, oh, wait a minute time out. I'm like, they're like, oh, I ain't know. Like, no, don't push them to the side.

Yeah, right. They're my people. Don't give them the Hollywood bull shit. They're my fault. Yeah, I call them personal. I called them personal. I wanted to set that up. I want no PR thing.

Yeah. So let's talk about the people y'all have signed. Signs your poor minds. Yeah. Shout out to Dre and Lex. That's our family. What was the mindset behind it? Y'all just wanted to bring some ladies on and say,

listen, we need to have some ladies representing this thing. Yeah. That basically is. And they had a joint that they were doing out the crib. Yeah. They invited me on. And I was like, y'all got. got some good chemistry.

Y'all know how to keep a flow going. And y'all, y'all appealing. People will look at y'all. Yeah. And y'all talking about something for sure. So it's like, we got the platform. Let's see how we can build a relationship. Because whether it's us that fuck with y'all or not, if y'all stay consistent and keep

doing this, somebody going to notice all these things that I'm noticing. Yeah. So it's just we extended the shit, the olive branch, the family tree. It comes over and fuck with us. And until we figure it out. Right. Until y'all figure it out. Just come over, like the same way we used this to groom my talent, to groom my interview skills.

It's a wrong time. I mean, it ain't, you know, I mean, oh, cultivate. I like cultivate. Come cultivate the talent. See, if we can figure out something where it works for everybody. And that's exactly what happening. To see what they're doing, bro, we called it way before they even, we sat around. Like, bro, they're working.

Because we're pulling up to the. studio and you mean the tip they've been there all the day different this ain't we're not holding they got to oversee them we don't have to tell them to come to the studio yeah they they put the work in brad and it's like that type of stuff separates you from the pack absolutely what else you think separates it because i mean obviously podcasts have become the new mixtape the new t-shirt the new merch black it's been the fat it's oversaturated everything i'm just i said they want it like i said they self-motivated they work well bro i'm telling you and they have been times where we could pull up at 9, 10 o'clock.

They've been there since 9, 10 o'clock on some real shit. Like, why y'all still here? Oh, we've been ready to go out of town, so we're trying to, you know what I'm saying? Like, they watched us and they picked up a lot of our good habits. Then we saw their grind.

And then we incorporated some of the things that they was doing, moving stuff around, trying to figure out time. It's like, what work. Are we a daytime? Do we work better in the daytime or the night time? Some of these days, we need to get up and hit it on a Saturday morning.

Okay, let's take it on the road. Let's go get some BTS. Like, they sit around and they soak up game, bro, and they're not sitting around waiting on somebody to give them something. They actually go get it. So, big salute the boy of mine. Just like everybody on the team, money bad, money bad,

Clayton English. Like, bro, we got a family of people around us who are self-motivated and they keep us motivated. Those are the people we want around us. Absolutely, man. So tall life for y'all, man. Y'all been doing some, I mean, the theaters, the rooms, how y'all packing

them out is inspirational. It's motivational, man. I'm just happy to see it. But, like, what's the mindset of watching it happen to come to fruition? Y'all go on the stage and the theater and the whole theater is sold out and everybody is here for it. The arena is sold out. My bad, pardon, sir.

No, no, no, no, no, because it's a difference between the theater and an and a little. We literally started from the smallest club, to the look, to the mediums club, to the biggest. Spot club. We did the sports, Bob, boy. Smatel club, br. Smith's old bar, I'll ruin this big. Yeah.

Just keep growing, brother. The small little Smith's old bar into the small comedy club and then just grinding and doing five shows, six shows, eight shows in a day. We had shows at 2 o'clock in the afternoon selling out in comedy clubs, bro. And it's like, man, this shit is unreal. To see it go from small club to medium club,

theater, arena. Wow. Everything in between. It's like that feeling never. went away, bro. It's like, it's still, we were excited the first time we sold 150 tickets. Like, bro, we sold it, bitch, out. And then just

like, the go to sell 13, 15,000, it's amazing. When you walk out there and it's like, brother, it really came to watch us and talk shit. Yeah. It's great. People love it. We did. We did,

what, we did, what, four shows in a day in Nashville. We did four shows in one day. We had to bring it back. Alabama. Alabama was first. We did six in Alabama, but I'm talking about we did four in a theater in Nashville. Remember, we did that two o'clock.

Yeah. Then we had the- We did that in Birmingham. Burmah, too-clock. People were walking out the show just coming back, getting back in Alabama. Yeah, two o'clock. Then we had a two o'clock, then we had a four-thirty. Then we had a seven-six.

And then we had a nine-thirty. All in the same day. And guess what I was telling them? Man, what the fuck we're going to say in these shows? What I tell you what I'm saying? whatever the fucking want to. I was like, I'm just, I'm so used to doing one. Yeah, yeah.

And I'm four, we're like, man, we got three. I was like, what we're going to do? They're like, man, just go out there. I'm like, to be who you are. That shit worked. By the end of that night, I ain't have to question what we were going to do ever again. Does that grind come from stand-up, you think? It just comes from, from, you know, a combination of understanding that the fun that we're about to have,

that we're about to have on this state is because we never know. You know what just happened with digging in your eyes and smelling your thing? Like, we know that it's going to be however many of those moments. That was a crazy example. I was like, where are you going on with that? I'm just saying. I was like, what are you thinking in that? By the third show, you got to smell.

You got to smell. You got to smell your head. I've been on stage. Beard in that in that space and knowing that, you know, doing it with the claw is crazy. How much fun we're about to have and knowing that. You know what I'm saying? There is no preparation for what we're going to do.

So it's always an excitement of not knowing what the crowd is going to give us, what we're going to give each other, what the environment is going to breathe. So you're excited. It's fun. You know what I mean? You never had to get geared up to have fun. You're excited to have fun. And as long as you're having fun with what you're doing, you'll never work.

You know, that's a real bill. Like, if you really love what you're doing, you'll never work a day in your life. Like, we ain't had to work at all on stage. It's work. The work. Don't get it wrong. No, I'm talking about. Work comes off the stage.

It's the prep of being the type. But when we get on the stage, like, there's never a time. I know these two niggas are there. Yeah. They know, he know we there. He know we there. Like, it's nothing to worry about. Like, you can't have an off night.

It's impossible because these dudes that we all got each other. Got you. No matter what happens, you know what I'm saying? We got better fans than anybody else. Yeah. Like our fans are top tier. Yeah. They're coming to a situation.

You get what I'm saying? Like, people, you see the clips on social media. They be like, bray, well, y'all out. Y'all went too hard on, bro, bro. Br, man, for real. I can see it into that. And I'm not knowing. These are the same people who came to the meet and greet,

and kicked it and brought us, brought us some T-shirts and some candles. Made their own shirt, right? Oh, shit. I made a shirt. Better, brad. And then it's like, the one lady that looks, she loved D.C., right? He, you know, he always be talking about people where it's this one lady. I don't know her name.

We don't know a name. She's been coming out shows for years, bro. He had there to joke about... Wham. She got the little hand, bro. It's just like a finger. Yeah. And she'd come to the show, like, the first time she came,

she was like, hold on, because I'm fucking up with this. Yeah. D.C. says something. She did like this. And now every year she comes to the show, bro. And we show that bitch. D.C. You sign a love.

You sign a woman. A lady, a lady, Gico, I mean, Carlos signed her titty. Oh, yeah. Autographed a titty. Yeah. She wouldn't have a tattoo. The next time she came back to the show

It's like rock star type shit, bro. You know what I'm going to go? Don't fuck with the crowd. Like it'll be somebody with a disability. They'll come up to the meet and greet and then they'll not be saying nothing. Then they look and be like, y'all ain't say shit bad me and be like, walk out.

Yeah, they're mad. They mad you ain't cut them up. Nygic. Took the whole leg on. Took the whole leg off and just gave it to them. You know why? No, nigga just here, take the leg. Put it in the picture.

Put it in the picture. Because we got a space. What did you do with the leg? Like you kept it as a Man, we used it He said he wanted to kick it We bet so We used it

We bet the knee like the leg was running Like a display and foot locker We used it But see The crazy shit we had Was actually in D.C. We had a six-month-old baby Why you keep saying six months

That would be a privilege That baby was six days old Six days old maybe That's a pretty much of a baby What happened? Why did the hospital? She just had her baby And she came on stage

She was like, You're going to sit on stage for the rest of the fucking show. He just sat with babies, man. We didn't sing to babies at shows. We had the little six-year-old walking around. Just walking around. He was selling a hundred bun.

No, remember, we gave him the honeybonds to sell. You gave him the honey buns to sell. But he was just, it would be kids, people that came pregnant to the show and then put the baby back to the show. Later was in their breastfeeding. The baby had the baby. We had the baby up on. We had the show.

Later was breastfeeding trying to hide the baby. Had the baby up on. We like, let that one titty. That one titty. that look a little two-beat. So we got this little five-six-year-old kid walking around like, hey, who that

dude becomes an order to see your mom? Rodney. Rodney. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I mean, we had teenage 13, 14 years old. I mean, we was in Durham, but D.C. was, you know,

fucking with the little dick. He was like, I'm 14. And we, you know, all of those type of moments. Like, these are moments throughout the years that people have got to see, you know, that show how genuine and how connection that we have with people. it's like a different type of connection.

These people are coming because they feel like they're coming to fuck with their cousins. You know what I'm saying? You got people who probably be going through shit. You dig what I'm saying? And don't know how to cope with it. Don't know how to react with it.

You feel it me? And once they see us saying, hey, man, listen, here's a space that you can come to that whatever you feel like is wrong with you, we're going to sit here and say, you are all right. We're going to show you where you.

You're powerful. Don't none of that matter. None of that amount of weeks, equal, out of eye. Right. When you got a little nub, let me tell you what's powerful with that nose. Let me tell you what's powerful with that leg that you just handed the cheek over. You know how much confidence that is if you take this motherfucker off? Yeah.

Somewhere else, somebody can be like, what's wrong with you? Yeah. We turned it around and said, no, that was gangster. Yeah, I remember one show we had. You remember this, Chico, you helped dude with the real bad stuttering junk? Yeah. Scared him so bad and helped him. He's like, no, no, no, no.

I'd read him stutter. I told her, I said, say so. He said, so whole sentence came out of clip. Scared the shit out of him. Yeah. He's like, I'd rather stutter. He said, no, because I make money stutter. He used to stutter.

We had a dude. We had a dude. I don't know what he had, but we just started rapping, making a song. Bitch, I can walk, and he got up and walked down the aisle. It was like he hadn't walking in so long, and he just really got up and started walking. So, you know, those type of things happened. And we, it's no way you can again. You can't plan for that.

Like, yeah, we're going to have one of those Pentecostal church moments and they can just go get up and walk down now. Like, nah, you get just happens organically. So that lets you know that it's so vain. The art of like improv. Not even just roasting, bro. It's just making fun of people to the point where it's like,

ah, bro, I was holding that in. I'm so glad y'all said it so now I can really relax. Yeah. Okay, yeah, I got the, yeah, I'm the lady with the lane. Yeah, come to me, right. It's like, bro, it's family roast. Take your own insecurities out of the way. way, man.

Don't worry about none of that. There's just not even with us on stage, we got our own problems and our own things we got to deal with it. So when we incorporate all the problems together, we'd be like, look, y'all. We all got problems. Look what we do with it. We just make fun of it and say,

people outside of here think it's something wrong with us. Ain't nothing wrong with us? We're just going to find a way where we can cope with it. But we can deal with it where we got the confidence to go out there and show people like, this may be a nub to you. But bitch, I'm sorry. super strong. Right. You just don't know that because you're looking at the nub.

If I were to, you got to black your whole eyes. That shit like a little hammer. Like a rapist from Jurassic Park. Yeah, man. And we roast each other. You got to. We always stop.

Grandbrother? Yeah, we all. This is the top. That's one of the best oldest brother joke I've ever heard. You got to understand. I took my hat off one time. And I laugh at this randomly just because this nigger fly just looked at me and said, huh,

huh, huh, ha. Ha, ha. Ha, ha. Ha. Ha. That shit went crazy.

Man, that's just like, man, this nigga is fucking stupid, man. Like, and we all have said shit to each other, bad.

And it just be like, man, you can, you can make it up. There's no way you can plan for that. We would be lying if we say. that, you know, when we first got together and first started doing it that it was turning

and when it turned into. But, man, look, look. Like, you know what I'm saying? Oh, he got a disability. Sure. That's a disability, man. I love that you own. That is a disability.

Look how he's trying to put that shit on the old shoulder. That is a fucking disability, man. God, I got me fucking. I think I'm going to do this shit. Yeah. I'm going to be $2, 2018 asking what he would have done that. He was like, fuck. No, hell now.

I remember the first time Chico did that. Set the internet on fire. That was crazy. No, it's a meme now. Like, they got it, it's a, like a company keyboard that is, well, no, seriously, across all corporations. And that picture of me with my hat off looking on that is in there. Like, I'm incoming niggas be sending that to each other at corporations all around

the world, man. So it's like, you know what I mean? You gotta take that. Fuck it. It is what it is. But that's what comedy is supposed to do, bro. Absolutely. It's healing.

Absolutely. You know what I mean? It's inclusion. And we don't never To go crazy on somebody To try to make them feel excluded from the group Unless it go there It can go there and it's still gonna be just as a

Biden but we don't never try to alienate Nobody I think keeping it is a disability Oh yeah man I love it though And that's you know what's crazy about it like It was during the pandemic Like it was it's really in line With what we talk about we don't Give a fuck what people think about us man

Like none of us do we all wear Whatever it is we got going on in front of the world. We have to. Look what we do for a living. Look the type of shit. Y'all can't talk shit about people and be sensitive. So when the pandemic came around and people thought I was hiding my hairline,

I put that up. And at that time, that got the most engagement I had ever got on anything. And it was just like people really think I give a fuck. Let me show them how much I don't. And then it took on a life. I feel like now when I cut it, people are going to be mad at me. Oh, for sure.

Like people, if you get the ball in, I'm going to be mad at you. I'm like, yo. Yeah, well, do that. Can I make you resent Ball for one second? You see my edges are starting to go right here. It's just, you know, I'm getting at that point. I see you trying to swirl it too. Like trying to do a little swirl.

You're trying to do a little white boy swirl. Man, that ain't going to work. That ain't going to work. I'm going to cut it down tomorrow. But listen, Maul, take your head off. He hides the most flawless fucking hairline I've ever seen in my fucking life. That's crazy. Why do you hide it?

And my ass don't mess up your headline? No. That's crazy. Oh, man, I mean, you know, no. I just with hats, man. You never know. You never know to see. It's beautiful.

Catch that nigga getting out of the shower. You might know exactly. I'm sitting here struggling and he's hiding perfection. Yeah, you know. That's a great. Wear hats, man. Hey, you got on to fit it so you know exactly how much that you need.

I've been wearing hats for so long. I think it because I was, but people for, now it's gotten to the point this shit is taking on the life of his own so much that people forget I was bald for a decade. Yeah. I had,

I was bald on TV for a decade. You know what I'm saying? He said he's going to grow his hair. I said, no, he did during the pandemic. I grew a little George Jefferson. Cut that shit, make it look like some Pegasus wings or something. When y'all did Joe and Jada, did Kis have his hairline?

Where's Kis had his hairline, bro? That blew my mind. I was like, Joe, when Kis got a hairline? Joe kept trying to tell me to go to Turkey. He was like, yo, you need to go to Turkey. You only need a little bit. Go to turkey. Go to turkey, B, you only need a little.

You, that shit is disgusting. Yo, get your shit. When Kis popped up with a hairline, that was a crazy shit in the world to me. Yeah, that's what started the conversation. Lowe's was like, you know, the only nigga that we thought it was ball and was high the full head. He was voluntarily ball. He said that

he was like, I'm gonna go ball. He went ball first and then he told styles and a chic that when y'all niggas go ball, then I'm gonna grow my shit back. That's disrespectful. I'm not even going to allow a ball head. Your head has to be shaped for it. Yeah. Or you just gotta have like a bit. No, if you got a ball head, that means

that was a bad haircut. That means you have to cut it all off. Grow it back. You got to grow back. They got to grow back correctly. Because I don't have one ball in my life. Why? I fucked you up. I fucked myself up.

Okay. I take that bad. I fuck my nephew up first. Cut his shit off and I was like, you know what? I ain't going to let you get out. We ain't going to be too ball ahead. I don't imagine you ball, boy. It's in the yearbook at the church yearbook.

Yeah, you'll look like a boy. That boy. So I ain't killed. I was like, dragon tail. I'm not going to drag. But I look sick. I got my first ballhead in the 10th grade. All the whole football team did it.

Oh, it was one of all. I just looked like the niggas selling oils. Yeah, yeah. I got my first ball head when I probated in college for my probation and I still had the shape up with the ball head. I was like, I guess I'm getting too many of these motherfuck. My shape up ain't even go away. I was bald with a shape up. I'm like, you know what?

You were in school? You were in school? No, when I probated, yeah, in college, that was the first time I had to have had a but alpha by alpha. Okay, I'm a careful. You do the little, you do the little, yeah. Oh, you want to white news.

Oh, yeah. He's white news? No, no, I'm not. No, I started the trend. I started the trend. Oh, for real? Yes. Oh, now I didn't know that.

Like, that's crazy. Well, you can't that. Maybe he ain't true. There's too many whites. I agree now. It's gotten a little too far. It's gotten crazy. Oh, he's running the white people don't want no white people around.

No, I was, right. He hates white. I'm not a big white people. No, no, no. Well, I mean, St. college was pretty much HBC. I was the only white person there. Oh man, you show up with that new shit and a white boy. It might have been a community college. They got a HBCU computer school.

Man, if you don't get a sweater from that motherfucker? His story. I need a sweater and a hat. Yeah, historical. I want to go home computer university. Yo, I forgot. It's a home. It's a darkly black computers. A commuter school like in the city, commuter school means like there's really not dorms. Everybody just from the city goes there. They live at home. a commuter school. I want to see the pictures on that wall. You played online? Yeah, it was online classes.

All your probation was online. At home, go in the office. It's a picture of Martin Luther King with Microsoft flag behind him. No, a commuter. Commuter school. Who are your name?

Who are your name? He said he went to a black computer school. He said, niggum. Give me a sweater for me. I'm a sweat, bro. That's some hard shit. University of Phoenix.

University of Phoenix, right. Oh my God, man. Y'all niggas is crazy. Oh, man. Where did you go to school? West Salem State.

Okay. He graduated too, my boy, yeah, stop playing. No, I wasn't gonna, I assumed.

Yeah, my boy, both on D. Yeah. My guy, ninth is from Winston. I went to Xavier. He bought the Xavier.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got a college. Grebs in his motherfucker. On TV, though. I went on.

I was a kid to kill a stereotype I in fact did not graduate and got kicked out of school that's what I like in here all you think is the brothers yeah you all right that's the niggins the white say what drop on you I love Caucasian family I got kicked out for fighting yeah yeah you know what you was fighting on the computer yeah F1 bomb What's that war? Battleship Battleship

Battleship Motherfucking trash Four hard drives And a That's crazy bro All right Before we get to all there fellas

The tour's back Spin the block Spin the block They are Yeah I do I do I do Whenever you

We can put an image Right here I want to come To that Atlanta show Because I just know That's the last one Oh we got one more announcement

Push up We got the production deal with Kevin Hart, brother. Movie on the way. Movie on the way. Shout to him by. Kid Hart and the whole team. 76 in Detroit. Then we're in the Naphtown, Columbia, South Carolina, Greensboro, Philly, Fairfax, Memphis, Nashville,

Dallas, Texas, Houston, Texas, Hampton, VA, Charlotte, Birmingham, New Orleans, Chicago. We're in a nasty nattie, Cincinnati. Then we end it off in Atlanta, man. And we're going to stop at a computer school. Give me a sweat. It's right around the corner It's right in Jersey City That boy, a Kappa had to

Computer School You're a capital? No, capital, I think. You're a capital from a computer school That ed. Oh man, 85 South fellas, thank y'all so much for stopping by. Man, it's glad to finally get a kick it with y'all.

Yeah, man, we got to come to Atlanta come kick it with y'all. We love that. And we wanted to extend the invitation. If y'all ever in Atlanta, you ever need a studio space or anything like that, you more than welcome to the contract.

So whatever y'all paying up here, we'll do like half. Not half, 75. 75. 75. Yeah, because if you got it to pay up here, you niggas is paying 13, 45 a month. To be in a studio for real.

This shit is in Chinatown. We'll take, man. We've been looking in Texas and other places. Good. I'm trying to convince him to go to Atlanta. He want me to go to Atlanta so bad. Because if he'd be in New Atlanta so bad, The guy was going to snack just for not having the point.

I mean, I'm 35. I've done that. I know, but I got to ask before we go, have you, what was your first experience when you showed up as a nuke to a HBCU? And do you remember what school it was? He got all the holes. Delaware State. Yeah.

And what was your experience? I was greeted with open arms. Yeah. You got a bunch of holes. It was open a hole. A white noot. It was a very respectful. Yeah.

Experience. What's he got? Because them holes don't. know their father? Yeah. Farn out, man. That way is crazy. A win is a win.

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