New Rory & MAL - Checking In With Bag Fuel

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

Rory and Mal check in with the guys from Bag Fuel to debate what Offset is entitled to in his divorce with Cardi B, Dame Dash vs 50 Cent, and if hip-hop got boring after the Kendrick vs Drake battle #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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really proud of, the things that they're doing in space. Very entertaining, very funny. And I'm glad that we finally have them here because this conversation is belong what we do we've been talking about having them for a while stop being so fucking formal and get the rolling start oh yeah yeah they want the ignorance we here with bad fuel how to get ass oh we got space here as well yeah no no i want to get some shit i want to get some shit let's get right where's my girl at though the maris damaris the maris baby d be you know she come in whatever she felt like you know this whole oh she got kidnapped

we live in now we got to be able enough i know she took a vacate she took a vacation she took off there, PTO. No, well, you know, they- popular bird to come. That's probably not. You need to come on a Monday or a Thursday. That's really it. Yeah.

Monday, she don't be in there. Wednesday she ain't coming in office. He's making all type of excuses. No, no, no, listen, man. Just roll the tape back. She's never here Wednesday. She never here. Only way she'll be here on a Wednesday if we have a guest is if it's

somebody like she. Like a Chris Brown. Like, oh, it's Chris. Oh, yeah. But even in her defense, she missed Bryson-Tiller, and that was a Wednesday. And she wanted to, to do that but yeah it's not personal then yeah no but now i mean space could take take her

oh no space got topics you got topics what you want to talk about let's get to it because let's know the first one yeah let's talk carty b and not what y'all put let's talk about her not wanting to get a divorce i didn't know that part see i know more about carty b than i do yeah i didn't know nothing about that isn't she in a relationship and breakfast because she's saying that offset in order to get the divorce for him to sign off she's saying allegedly that she's saying allegedly that she's She wants her to pay his taxes. Yep. He wants her to give her, to give him a property.

Mm-hmm. And something else he wants some. I just want to say, God bless equal rights. And she's like, it worked out perfectly in offset's favor. So, we definitely talked to Mary J. Blodge, the only woman that's had to pay alimony and female history. And Cardi B would have to pay too. Actually, I agree.

And that's not a Cardi B thing particular, but how. She got to. She got a bread. Wait, hold on. I don't agree with the alimony. What's so? What's a lot? You know, more don't want nobody saying that about Cardi B.

No, no, I love Cardi, but I'm just, I'm trying to figure, Offset. Allegedly is what Cardi B's come out and said. Offset wants the divorce. Cardi doesn't. Yes, because she would have to pay out. Because, no, Allset wants it, but in order for him to sign off, she's saying he wants his taxes paid. Oh, okay.

He wants a property and something else. It's something else. This is that quote. The only reason. All right, so this is what Carty. party saying? Y'all want to know that's either. The only way I can get out of my marriage is if I pay for somebody else's taxes,

even though I pay for my own and give them one of my properties. I'm going to fight for that. That is not no love shit. I'm not going to stop living my life. I mean, that's just a divorce, though. Don't you go split up assets and owe money back? Like, that's just a divorce, no? Yeah.

That's why divorce has taken 10 years. But I'm on the side of. Enlightenance. If I'm offset and my ex-wife is months pregnant with her new dude already. Mm-hmm. I'm not, let's just get this shit over with. Like, I want nothing. No, no, no, no.

Like, I'm not, I'm not, like, she's pregnant by someone. It's like, all right, cool. Like, I'm not even. Offset has been embarrassed. You got a great NFL wide receiver impregnating your wife while you're legally married. Take all the assets. That's what it was designed for. I don't know, man.

And he don't want to say nothing about Cardi B. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying, as, he says wild shit about Cardi B. As a man, I don't think that I would even want to drag that out. You're not wrong. I'm just like, yo, let's just get this over with it. Because it's just like, this is obviously completely done. I want the mansions.

Give me the mansions, giving the madebacks. Yeah, but offset got some. He's not, he's not doing this. I'm not pocket watching, but he's probably not doing it as well. Take more. Take more. This is what it was designed for, equal rights. It's true.

If it was a man, if it was vice versa, we'd be like, give her house. Yes. Pay her little taxes and give us something. Yeah, but y'all know we don't stand is real, but you know it just looks away. It's like, as men, it's a lot of shit we just got to take on the chin and just like, yo, is marriage is a business?

Huh? Marriage is a business. It's a business. You don't have to be in love. You just sign a certificate. He's trying to split when he needs, where he needs his money and she's going to get his shit. It's a business breakup.

If Offset has started off the marriage saying, I want a pre-nup, everybody would have dragged them and said, it's about love. When you make it business, it's not really. about love. That's what they always say, right? Now the tables are reversed. He tables turn. She got more money. She's in a better position.

Nobody dragged Rihanna what she said. I'm not married. Nobody told Kevin Federline like, yo, be a man. Don't take him to Britain. Oh, no, he's got up. Give me my $10 million. I'm out. Yeah, but he's accustomed to a certain lifestyle. With another child.

What does I have to do with him? I think as a man, I'm just like, man, I don't even, like, you know, whatever we got to do for me to never have to even to stand in front of this woman again. But you have to. You got three kids. Yeah, but you have to see her. See my kids?

That's not how that work. He won't ever see her again to see his kids. Y'all know that. Nah, no, nah. Put the kids in the in the truck. What if the kids got sports and other activities and shit? Graduation. I'm on the 50 yards.

She's in the end zone. I'm standing by the 50 yard line. She got to stand over there by the end zone. Okay, well, I need a car to drive to football practice. Yeah. Yeah. Nah, that's nasty. That's nasty.

That's nasty. A man can't do that. No, that's what you do that. No, no, no, you can't do that. I'm doing that. No, that's nothing. Let's say nothing. If we split up, right?

If we split up and she got more money to me, I want a crib. Yep. I don't know about paying my taxes. I don't know about that. You know what it is dealing with a tax. But I'm keeping the honest. Like y'all said, if we're married and we got properties, we're not naturally getting me a property anyway.

Why would I have to get a property from her? Or is he saying he wants an extra property? Like, what are we talking about? He's trying to hit a home run. You know that. Like, this is all him trying to. No, and that's those point, though, like, all right, if they have, they had an L.A. one and Atlanta one, I don't know these people business.

Just what they tell us. Supposedly in New Jersey. Yeah, like, if we're splitting all that, yeah, we need to bust down which properties are going, which. And on top of that, it could not just be his personal taxes. They could have property tax. They could have business together. Yeah. This taxes have not been paid.

Like, this answer is all of this. They don't have a pre-nup. No, I don't think. Pretty much none. I guess not. If we did, to assume. We wouldn't be talking about this. She wouldn't be up there talking about, oh, he wants his tax a pay.

That would already be in the paperwork. But like he said prior, when they got married, he was the one that was up. Right? Was he? They were both. Yeah. You know, the Migos? They were the greatest first album year in the rapist series.

Yeah. Let's say they both was up. Yeah. They both were doing well for themselves. Let's give them both up. Yeah. Nobody, nobody. Well, on the album, Cardi is saying that she's like making.

more than him. She said that right now. I mean, I guess... How he's making more than everybody right now? I'm just saying, like, not since the album came out. I'm saying she put that in the bars, meaning she's... That's like, she's known. Like, I'm making more than him. I mean, she's been, but when she...

I'm not even going to go into that. Yeah. No, no, no, no. No, no. Say what you're about to say. When I go based apart things, I always go back to the beginning and what was on, and we had offset on the show one time, and I asked him, I said, you know, how, how does it feel to be?

Like, you know, you really help spawn Cardi B to me. It's like, because the relationship with you or her was what took it worldwide and the record and all that. And he was like, I ain't got nothing to do with that. You know what I'm saying? That's what he said. He's like, I ain't got to do. Yeah, she was lit before they got together. You think so?

Absolutely. She has the greatest first rap album. They were together. Bodak Yellow was out. They were together. She had not. She was not. She was in Europe.

After Bodack Yellow for sure. She was in Europe. Europe. When Bodad Yellow was fresh, she was in Europe, and they asked her about offset in Europe, and yes that's when it leaked, and Bodad Yellow blew up right after that. Boddak came out in June. They got married in September

the same year. That's what I'm saying. They were together ready, my niggas. But I'm not saying... They were just keeping it quiet. That's what I'm trying to tell you. They were together, right? He didn't know that. No, he was dead. The Ming-O go fire back here. For sure, for sure. He was different. He was different when they got put together.

That's what he did. They were together. Fair, but let's not just say there was also Cardi putting out good music Atlantic behind it her personality everything she'd had before on social media

it was a whole storm her relationship with Amigo at the time yeah it did Cardi put out a dope album but before that album no street records people was not

fucking with those records I be can I curse up here yeah of course I'll be with the DJs and back then that's all I did and I'm gonna say this on camera I used to come to the DJs

and be like yo y'all gonna play Cardi B and niggas was laughing at me. And he knows that. And they would be like, this is what they would say. Randy, why you think we're going to be playing Cardi B?

She can't wrap her whatever. I said because nobody works harder than her. And because she works so hard, all it takes is to get one joint. And when she gets that one joint, she's going to kick the door down because evidently she works harder and people liked her personality

from television already. So I kind of saw that. You know what I'm saying? But when the Bodak thing, I'm telling you how, when the Bodack thing was, it was a good record. I knew about it.

It was going to be popping. But like he said, they got married right after that. And that relationship is what took her worldwide. I'm telling you. People wasn't thinking about her like that. She had 500,000 followers. And they was rocking with her.

But when that relationship changed, because Migos was through the roof at that time. And that really helped her. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying it didn't help her, to what you were also saying, her being a hard worker and her being able to follow up a bodak.

There's a million artists that have a Bodak Yellow and not a motorsport after that or not a classic first album. Like that happens all the time and people just moving on. Amigos record. And then if we're talking, right, from the beginning, right, some people are going to burst. Right. So if I'm with y'all, right, say when Bagfew first started when we had to spend off, if y'all could have said, yo, we're going to fuck with y'all, right?

You know what I mean? And we could have said, aye, aye, boom, boom, boom. You're going to bring you out under the umbrella and all that. y'all might have not thought that we was going burst. But say we do go on and burst and we start doing extra numbers and we making millions and millions dollars more than y'all, right? I still with, oh, y'all. You follow what I'm saying?

That beginning and that break and that matters. Putting me on that platform. But now everybody don't think the way you think about it. But that's why I'm saying if I'm Cardi B, I'm, yo, bro, if I'm making all this money, yo, get a stupid nigga the house. Get it, pay this niggas, dumb-ass taxes. They don't give him the stupid shit.

You make enough money? You know why? Because I got a baby by another football player that even if he's going out the league, they still make $8 million, $12 million. You know the money. If I really want to get this out the fucking way, let's just get it out the way and let's just move more. Why would I drag it out?

That's how I'm thinking if I'm Cardi because I'm in a drive a seat. Yeah. And if I really want this shit behind me, I'm putting this shit behind me. That's a big fact. And that's how you think to me. I think if you got the money and you're going to pay for it and you got that too. Let's just get over it. And I'm going to move on and let me.

I want to think that way. But I'm seeing too many dudes getting private investigators trying to deal with divorces right now. The women play really nasty because men want to be honorable. Because what Maul said, that is not a manly thing to take money from a woman from a divorce. But in order to fix this ideology, an example has to be made for them to say, we need to chill right now. If offset got to be the first one to do it to lay the groundwork, so be it. But I understand where more's coming.

He's right. I agree with more. Because there was a time, I'm getting divorced, but there was a time when I was with my wife, where I took a step back so she can make more money. And I was cool with that. And it had nothing to do with me. But I do know that if I divorced her at that time and she was still making that much more because she's probably making three, four more time for me.

You're right. I wouldn't ask her for nothing. Mm-hmm. I would have just spun off because even if I... That's just man shit. You're not... But there's a difference, though. But I didn't look at it like that when you first said it.

Yeah. Because at that time, I would have been like, I ain't taken that from where I'm just more to do my own thing. I'm going to get back to doing what I do. Right. And just get my bread and do... That's just our nature to be like, yo, listen, whatever she needs, take it. Yeah.

Yeah. Fuck it. Yeah. You got it. I mean, I'm already on that. I would be on that side. If they think a man going to be up, they'll drag the divorce out, still say you married. Just like the coach on the heat, when Pat Riley did him the service and said,

we're going to hold your contract. And then when the divorce is final, I'm going to do you. Here you go. I mean, to the honorable thing, again, we don't know these people, but I can see Cardi based on what she's told us, just one side of the story. Yeah. Offset wasn't the most honorable person in that relationship. which could lead somebody to be extremely petty when it comes to a divorce. So yeah, you help put me on, you help launch my career, but I didn't come for that.

I came because I loved you and you dishonored that. How about this, Rory? Let me jump in Rory. Let me jump in Rory. Because you're talking crazy, right? If that's the case about being that, right? Well, all said first got with her, people had issues of saying, like, why would he be with Cardi B? She had a reputation.

and people said a lot of things about her. And he overlooked those things as well. And he went to a place where not too many niggas would have gone with her. And people was looking at him like, oh, you're really going to marry her, bro. And he did it and did have three kids. And dropped three albums in her. Back to back to back. Dropping three albums in her is fucking.

He put more albums in her than he did with Amigo. We got to remember we always forget the beginning. But some reason we always remember when niggas is in the top spot and who got the leverage. This is a leverage game. What were people saying about Cardi, though? She's a stripper? I'm going to say, come on. I'm not going to go into it.

I'm not going to. You are in the, outside. I'm not going to go into it. You can look online and things have. Yeah, you can scroll back to 20. You can screw back, bro. I'm not going to even say. It's a lot, bro.

You know what I'm saying? He said things on his show with him that didn't 20 million hits. That's been, that's wild. Oh, yeah. It went viral again. I forgot about that. Every year. Every year.

With that. People of a certain stature, especially where he was at that time, people forget he was taking heat, bro. Yeah. All right. So let me get that. Can I reply to that? What's up? What's up, bro?

All right. If you wife, a alleged promiscuous woman, that's your prerogative. You can do that. Just because you agree to do that doesn't mean now when I get in this relationship, I can fuck a bunch of bitches and embarrass you publicly. Kind of. No, you made the choice. You made the choice to do that.

Y'all yell a bite. I got to get a couple of the things off. You listen, you catch me once or twice. You thought to throw you on. Don't get in a relationship with a woman that has a reputation. Don't get in a relationship. And I'm not saying this about Carter. Just in general.

That's that niggis thing. If I fucking with a thought or a hoe and I'm giving you a chance, bitch, and you catch me a couple times, you best to turn your hand. Because I'm not doing that. That is crazy. You don't think nobody was wifeing a car to do it.

After this one, after she became this, Cardi B. Yeah. After she became this. Yeah, but I'm not talking about wife and I'm talking about making her your wife for real. You think that was her first relationship ever? No. A ring is a, nigga.

I do, motherfucker. It means a whole lot, nigga. That's a contract now, nigga, right? But that don't mean she got to turn her head. Yes, she does. Nah, yes. You need to turn your your B, B, B, B. I accept the to do for who you want, right?

So any chick that has a pass, you can just cheat on it. Yes. You better, you better talk me about and accept me for who the fuck that is. Now, you got to appreciate me more because you think that I'm crazy. That's not this crazy. Yo, like, because you, you, you decide, no one else, you decide to date a woman with a past. You get to just fuck around on her publicly embarrass her, yeah, that's not, no.

I said public kids. Get other bitches pregnant. Come back with STDs. Yeah, no. I'm not. SEDD. I said, if you catch me cheating, I say, bring you FD.

You got to turn your head real quick. You throw her. You're doing. But because she was, I guess what they say, promiscue, before we got together. Which we don't know.

And she's not doing nothing while we're together. Yeah, nothing. No, you're in a relationship. Yeah, you're tripping, bro. All right. You're all right. You're bugging the fuck out. Did Kanye West have the right to cheat on Kim Cardash?

No. You. No. No. No. No. with the sex take? You're fucking.

He deserves the right. That was supposed to turn her fucking head. That was her boyfriend that she made a sex take with. That was her boyfriend at the time. That's a poor no. That ain't a intimate tech. That was her boyfriend. That was some guy who's he made at a bar?

We're talking about this. That. Come on. Come on. Come on. But if we're married. But if we're married. Mom, you're in the record.

Listen, if we're married... Derek six you fuck that I can't wife. You're gonna laugh. You're sorry. But she better turn the fucking head. Top tier. But listen. But not if you're married to her, though.

Like, and she's not doing nothing. She's not stepping out at all. Okay. She's not stepping out on your marriage at all. And you think that it's okay for the husband to just cheat? Yes. Y'all are fucking crazy. I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say, all the way.

So you get to cheat because Maul teased you for wife and me? I'm not going to say. Yes. Crush my ego. I got to get them back. What are we talking about? You know, what is your ego and your bitch have to do anything? Listen, it's manship.

They don't wipe her. Yeah, like you always got that option. Or check with Moore with every decision you ever made for the rest of your life. You know, I'm going to take my girl out tonight. Is that okay? Yeah. Mall, listen, don't be a mom when I went up. Nah, man, y'all trick me.

Y'all, I wish it to be like, how do niggas be around? No, let me not. No, I feel you on that, though. Don't know that, no question. It's awkward. It's awkward. It's awkward. We cool, and you are now dating, like, a girl that I dated.

Yeah. And, like, you walk in a-of-course. Of course, that's naturally. It's awkward. We didn't talk about a girl. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't mind the girls just had fun with? Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Y'all having, y'all watering the conversation down a little bit. A girl, no. Where are we discussing somebody who from the beginning who would have been known or said to be permissuous. Yeah. Okay. Not somebody that mall might have had just fuck.

Yeah. She might have just been a girl. He's just fucked me. He's just liking no more. Yeah. We just have fun. We just have fun. Not me she's a slutburger.

We're talking about what somebody would allegedly say. So even if we don't know, I was not there, I can't confirm nothing and no woman to anybody that has done. But we know that we know here things, not about her, but about other women and what it makes it it makes it people think about them, just hearing it.

If it's just multiple times, if that guy said it, you heard it too, you heard it too. You heard it from. Oh, man. The scouting report is matching up too much. When the scouting report gets crazy. What's up? Go ahead.

So what if Offset had just heard rumors that were never confirmed because she's Cardi B, people talk about people that we don't even know about. That's facts. I don't even make this a Cardi situation. Yeah, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not.

It's just a regular convoy. Yes. Let's say I've been traveling the world. I've fucked a million different chicks. I cannot find love anywhere. I run into somebody. We meet. We are compatible.

I have never had this feeling with somebody else. They feel like a best friend. This feels like a future. But a bunch of dudes I don't give a fuck about have heard she did some shit. I'm supposed to care about y'all? Or should I go love the woman that I'm compatible with? But you don't love for you. You got to do your scouting report.

But you don't love for you. I'm not saying you don't. But you don't. Let's be real. You got to do you. I don't know who's You can't be You know.

I'm not saying that's definitely a line. Look at the big screen right here. That's game planning. In order to win the Super Bowl You got to do your scale. That is crazy. I agree. When I'm saying, at a certain age,

every chick is going to have a rumor about it. You're right. I'm 35 years old and I don't want to date a 22-year-old. Everybody has a pass. I want to date somebody in their 30s. Everybody has a lot. You can't have Will Chamberlain numbers and think I'm going to give you the same privilege I'm going to give to somebody

with family numbers. But then why I get married? But Rory gave great points. Sometimes the personalities don't. The pussy's don't. The pussy's don't. I'm not saying, I'm not condoning somebody.

Or go find a virgin to have the most boring life ever. I'm saying if he cheated along the way before they got married, then she should turn. But she did though. All right. She did mad time.

And I'm cool. And that's why he ran out of his chances. Yeah. But as I'm saying, I'm cool with that. But that does. doesn't mean then I'm going to just not get the house. All right. So I know.

You make a fair point there. That's all I'm saying. I'm not mad at that. You're right. I'm not mad at. I understand it, but I just think that, you know, as men, we just had a disadvantage because there's certain things that we just got to take on the chin and be like that. Yeah, but why is it foul if you don't take it on the chain?

Like if officers not taking it on the chin and you know for a fact, we'd be taking a lot of bullshit on the chin that we shouldn't Shouldn't we salute him for saying, yo, you standing up for doing something else? Like, he just said, yo, bro, I couldn't do it. But on some real shit, if there was a woman in that position, we would be saying, girl, get your, yo, pay her. Yeah, but we got to, I fuck what I've said, but we got to just keep it real. I fuck what he fucked. He fucked with girls she's cool with.

That's my friend. That means he can't get a house? That means he can't get the money home. Hypothetically, if your queen, she's loaned you in your L.A. house. Are you paying the property tax on the house? No. No. So you're on Cardi B, sir. There you go.

I'm on the real nigga side, but are you right, though? I'm just saying, but we gotta look at it. You think I'm paying a motherfucking dollar in a house you cheated on me? Come on. We got to be fair. What about you ask? Just sell the house and let's bust it down. There you go.

I'm sure that's an option. Yeah, I'm cool. I'm sure that's the option. I'm always, I'm fair. I think that that's probably, I think that's probably, but to bring it back to to Cardington. I think that's probably what she's in the process doing. You know what?

let's just sell the properties like, you know, and they're going to split it down. Let's bust all this there. Yeah. I think that's what's going to. Do I want Cardi B to go through all of this? No. Yeah, I don't know.

I want offset nobody, but this is just a fucking factor of life. Nigga, I've been in the house for a fucking year and six months. Soaking. But just working. Listen, I love, I fuck offshed, but we got to remember he's the reason they're getting divorced. Really? Cardi took some accountability. I don't know that.

Yeah. He took some accountability. Did you listen to the album? Did you listen to the album? Did you listen to that album? I thought, I thought I thought I heard Cardi said when. when takeoff had passed away, she should have been a little more sensitive

and understanding to what he was going through as a person and shit. And she said she was focused on her fucking music. That could push a nigger away. And when they get pushed away, what do we do? We go looking for comforting other women. That's what we do. Women with a past.

Whether, whether some with a pass, thoughts are good for you. You got to know how to work. Nothing better than a therapeutic thought. Because it's being alleged. that offset slept with alleged

suedey which is Cuevo's ex allegedly allegedly yeah y'all y'all cool with that

like you cool with if Hinekins if he smash you I'm not cool with that and I wouldn't do that but like y'all said that's allegedly we don't know if that

and if that nobody ever confirmed nobody confirmed none of that did they did anybody get to confirmation nobody confirmed anything on the Cardi side either

and we we're taking all that for fact Cardi's out here talking about the house in the car. What are we talking? She's not just talking. Cardi's not just that. Not sure. One thing, one thing I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I could, I don't think she's a liar.

No, I don't think she's a liar. She might be the most transparent artists out ever. I'm just saying that one sentence. She's weird her shit whether it look good on her or don't, like she takes it. Like that. But that one sentence of, hey, it's a property and taxes, I think there's more to the story is all I'm saying. Yeah. She's not a liar.

I'm just saying there's more. I don't think there's ever been a point. I'm like, she's capping. No, I don't think so. She's been, she's unbelievable transparent. I'll fuck her. So let's let's talk about, let's get to the music, though. Oh, shit.

Let's get to the album. The album's out. We had to wait seven, eight years for it. You love it? It's some, I'm not going to say I love it. This is what niggins do. They try to beat you in the corner and get you to say some shit. Bro, you know what you know.

He said, so you love it. Wait too short for that. You thought I was going to take that date? Like, we're not doing that. No. Listen, so I will say this. I will say this. You don't want to wipe the album?

No, listen, I will say this. I will say this. It's a couple junctions. I like, I don't think we had to wait seven, eight years. But I'm not mad because she put a lot of the content and shit that she's going through in the past seven, eight years in the music, which I got to respect. Like, I respect to putting it in the music versus going on live. Yeah, of course.

If you're an artist, put it in the music. Let us get it like that. So I respect that part of it. It's a couple of records on there that I really fuck with, though. I don't think it took seven, eight years because the old thing is just the partisan Fontaine thing. I don't know. People don't give enough credit to that.

Well, well, let's not do that because we did that. And they're trying to say, oh, we're saying Cardi don't write her shit. And this and the third. They said partisan Fontaine is credited on like 17 of the 23 songs. Yeah, no, no, listen, we're on. We align. I'm just saying, let's not make it. Let's not frame it like Cardi doesn't write.

No. No, it's not about writing. We're talking about chemistry. Yeah. That's what I was going to get to. Like, whatever happened when I guess she married offsetting them and then partisan wasn't doing the same amount of creative work with it. I don't know what happened.

But you could kind of tell in the music that certain people just have that vibe with each other. Party might be the messiest nigger in the industry. Why are you coming? No, that's my nigga. That's my nigga. But you got to understand. he's been in he's been writing for a lot of these female emcees sounds like a hard work which no which means he's privy to certain information

he's in the studio having conversation with these women he knows about all of this shit that's going on but but why you think he's so messy because he's helping her write about the other bit the other stuff come on man but isn't carly b right maybe carty b wrote that part yeah the diary of beer i'm gonna say i think that's party man maybe Maybe Cardi B wrote that part.

You know what I'm saying? I think every subject matter. She's credited on the album. She's credited on the song. He may just clean up out of rap serving for us. I'm just saying if he's having conversations in the studio and Cardi's saying things about these other rap chicks, he's sitting there like, you got to understand that Cardi B is from the beginning with Parton. No, for sure.

Even before the music. I think that he's, I think partisan is severely underrated. Agreed. His pen. Even as an artist, like even his own shit. Never. Some people,

you know the inside of the music business. If they don't deem you as the one that was going to go shine, and I said this a long time ago, this was before we, people even know about us, I said, it wasn't going to be in the record label's best interest to make partisan fontaine big at that time

because they didn't know she was going to marry offset and not use partisan fontaine. Yeah. They needed his fucking pen. So let's slow his shit down. If I make this nigger partisan Fontaine big, I'm not going to get another Cardi B album and she's the real mill ticket.

If he goes and sells a million records, so what? She's doing diamond. And she's all over the world. We're making money off of her when she don't even put records out, so we need to slow this partisan Fontaine thing. That's what I think honestly hurt him because the record that he had

and chicks like this nigga. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? If he's a nigga throw a partisan fontaine party, it's nothing but broads in there. So I'm like, if all these broads like him, that means he has an audience, they're not going to push his record, right, like wherever he's really going to go. But his strength is obviously his pen.

And I don't know, and I don't know if he's, because a lot of these guys that, you know, are talented songwriters, a lot of them really don't want to be stars. They don't want to be famous. They rather be like, yo, listen, I'm eating off. For all of this music I'm writing, all of these artists I'm working with, I go outside and most of the time people have no idea who I am. That's the cheat code. Well, I can't find those guys because everybody I know want to get on a dance.

stage and all like want to be in front of the camera all the time and then well that's because people rather a lot a lot of people human nature they want attention but when you're really talented and you really get in the industry and you really see how this shit goes you're like i could avoid all this bullshit with being the artist and just be a writer a songwriter still make a shit ton of money i've traveled the world i look better than all these other artists like that's not all thinking No, no, no, is that old thinking because that's how I thought, right? Yeah. But now when we have the singer-songwriter's coming on our show.

Eric Bellinger told us like, I'd rather be on the stage. Todd Dahlia sign was like, no, I'd rather be on the stage. It's more lucrative for me. And I just, we have Bryson on and he said the opposite. He's always been like that. Yeah, it's like, shit, we see what Leon Thomas and Toro Monet. I like to hear that Bryson would say that because I was like, I thought the money was in the the publisher for real.

I didn't think everybody wanted to. get on the stage and have to travel. But you heard what Eric said. Eric Bellinger said, yeah, you can be a ride and get the money coming in, but the perks that you get, being a visible face will allow you to keep things coming in. That's ego. I mean, is it? We're in a different time now.

Yeah, but that's ego. Why are you saying that? When you want to be on, no, absolutely. That's why it's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing as an artist. Ego can be facilitated in a positive way. You got to take that and fuel that to be a star. Yeah.

You got to have some type of ego. You think so? Because I agree with it. I'm going to throw myself in the ring, right? Maybe it's my ego, I don't know. But when I was a manager, I made good money and it was cool. You know what I'm saying? I managed people who made money, did things.

But when he introduced me to this, being in front of this camera is different. The money I make is different. But do you enjoy it because of the money you make or do you enjoy it? No, I enjoy it. What happened to me was I stepped in and started to enjoy it. And then I was like, yo, I, yo, I enjoy this shit so much. Yo, we got to figure out how I can make some money off of this shit. Because I was like, I love this shit.

I was leaving. I was like, yo, it made me feel good. But you're a shit talking. You enjoy talking shit. But I didn't know, like, bro, I was talking to this nigga on the phone. I didn't know nothing about pot. I don't watch content now. That's why I really, when y'all was, I came over here, I said, is just the set?

Because I don't even be, I don't know. So I just enjoy being able to fucking just pick people's brains. It came from being on a relationship show. Okay. That helped me see that I was good. And then they were kind of marveled at the fact that I could come off the top of the dome. Like, they never showed me cute cards. They never told the topics.

I really just, I just want to tell you straight up, this is how I feel. And it was calling me like, natural. That was their joke. Like, this is natural. And then when we got on math show, that was a whole other type of thing. I didn't know people wanted music knowledge. Oh, of course.

I didn't know that. Absolutely. So when ghosts, when they was getting me drunk, and to be honest, ghosts would be the one that would be messing with me from behind the camera.

So that's where all my biggest stuff would come from would be me going back and forth with ghosts, really? But you never had a passion to be in front of the camera. Never. Okay.

But I was stuff, when we had Mech on here, what was a couple months ago, at the end of the episode, we were talking about this very topic and why I think all of us who never had a goal to be on camera why we've been successful in podcasting

is because we were behind the scenes and the only thing we ever wanted to have was a perspective. There's a lot of people that just want to get in front of this lens. They don't know why, they don't know what they want to say, they just want to be in front of the camera.

That's what comes with it. We have all been behind the scenes before this. Our only goal was perspective. We need to have an opinion to tell the people that are on camera what to do. Now we're on camera and this is why we've succeeded. This is why we can do long-form content.

And the people that just want to be on camera can't. Like, they can't do that shit. Because they just want to be on the lens. They don't know why. They just want to be seen. That's all they want to do. We have perspective. And that's why this actually works.

Now, I think with people like Todd Allison, great writer has perspective also wants to be a star. That's the perfect package. There's some artists that just want to be a star and have no perspective. That's why the writers you see Leon Thomas popping off now. Which writer first, but wanted to be an artist. Victoria Monet, writer, artists, Elime, all these people that are now the stars were actually writers first. That's why they popped when they was 32 years old. Because they weren't just trying

to just be on camera. They want a perspective and then also be a star. I'm with you on the party shit. I think party wanted both. I think they pulled back when they realized the resource that he was. Yeah. Because if he pops off, he's not right no more. He's not going right over here. Why not? That's a lot to do, man. If the dream popped off, he had records. But Dream only put out two albums. And that's it. Which were hit?

No, he put more than two albums. I'm talking about it. I'm saying Beyonce was at her height when Dream put out those albums. Listen, when you start writing for Beyonce, you can hang everything else. Like when Be calling you consistently like, yo, I need something. I can hang everything else up. And nothing, it's like, bro, this is, I'll do this. And I saw something with Dream the other day.

And he was saying how he likes doing when he's on the road, he'd rather do small shows. like he don't like doing big shows he'd rather do 200 250 cap of people that really know his shit wait wait am I missing something so dream would still sell out in arena right now I don't think so I don't know I don't want to say yes

I don't know about an arena listen man if the dream if the dream announcers show at the guards I think he could sell a garden out today you think he could do 20,000 you think the dream could sell the garden if he's saying that he's if he's saying that he's performing his catalog

at dreams catalog is incredible If you give enough deep time and a normal. I'm in there yourself? I yeah. But you know dreams bringing people out like. Hell yeah. Wow. I saw A. Boogie sell out the garden.

And I love A. Boogie. But I was surprised that he sold out of the garden. I think that's a different thing. I think he's current right now. Yeah. He's younger. He's from New York. It's a, I just, I just, you know, listen.

The trick is that with the dream. I just looked at the dream as a songwriter, producer now. When I say Dream had the two albums, I'm thinking about his two key albums, the first one and the second one. That's how I look at Dream. If he put out something else after that, I looked at him as songwriter, producer, with Rock Nation doing next level shit. Like you said, he's dressing different. I write for Beyonce.

I'm chilling. I'm getting my residuals for Rock Nation. I'm good. Yeah, I ain't got to do nothing. That's how I was looking at him. So for me saying that, I'm like, then, y'all think he could come off the bench and just say, yo, I'm coming to the garden rush. I just think that the dream's first two, three albums was so successful and so many people still revere those albums that if he said he was doing a live show in New York City at the Garden, I'm thinking it's enough people in the Tri-State area that will go to that film.

I'm going to that. I'm going to that concert. Of course you are. I just don't think that it's 20,000 people. You're talking about the Tri-State. That's going to land on them. People from Jersey, people from Connecticut. Like, they come in to see that show.

How much is dream? I want to put on a dream show now. I don't know about that. I'm just saying. The garden is crazy. It is, but it's really not, though. It is. It is, but it's really not.

The garden is wild, bro. By himself? Empty. I was just with Freddie, and Freddie said the next time he wanted to do with the garden. That's still like if he. Freddie Gibbs. If that's still if he like, I'm not putting Freddy Gibbs dream though.

You know what I'm saying? Freddie not selling out the garden. I'm not saying by itself, but with like him and a couple of niggas? Oh, yeah, yeah. If it's some other people on that. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. But I'm just saying the dream is just, to me,

first of all, you don't know when he's going to do a show. So his fan base, if they hear that he's doing a show, they might be inclined like, yo, we got to catch him now because we don't know if he'll ever come back into a show. I need to go see a dream show right now. Yeah. You got me curious right now. I saw what he did in SOBs when he was on the world.

Well, that's what I'm looking at now, the last. He had, I'm talking about his production that he had an SOB. like his stage production I was like SOB's the garden I've never I've never I've never

huh SOBs is the garden it's crazy jump No no no But that's my choice though No I know I know Like he literally said he would rather

He would never do the garden But he literally said he would rather do 250 cap Because he would rather have 250 people in one room That really love and know his shit To make it more intimate I need to know how much

Dreams price is I want to do a dream show If he won that type of time That's fair Talking about 200 people, I want to get a spot the whole 500 people dream. Yeah, no, he could definitely do that. Price and let me do the dream show. I think that that's something just based off his catalog and then we don't see him live a lot.

I think that if he was to announce a show in New York City at the Garden, tri-state area, I think shows up and sells that out. Wow. For sure. I think he probably made more money at like a Terminal 5 than he would. Oh, money. Money is a different conversation. I'm just talking about, you say 20,000 people at a dream show, I think that the dream could do.

For me, Terminal 5 is where I would put. Terminal 5 is more of a better bet to me. Turnal 5 would look retarded. You could do three nights. He would probably prefer that. Like, personally, he would prefer that. I don't think he wants to do it. I don't think he wants to do the arena shit.

I don't think he wants that. He would prefer Terminal 5 and things like that. I let me, dream. Let me fund that. You heard me? But I mean, to get back on track, you think Dream? would rather pull back and just be the writer or the artist. Right.

I think he wants to be the writer. Yeah. He did the writer and then he became a full artist and went back to writer. It's easy. He probably went at the bag. Yeah. I mean, I guess but Neo too. Neo was a writer first.

But Neo always wanted to be artists. I think the dream did too. He was in the group too. Frank might have been the only one that I don't think. Todd said, I'm going to keep real. He said it right on the show so I can say. He was like, when he saw YG get that check, he was like, no, I want to be artists.

He said he wrote the song, Mustard produced the song. YG was gracious enough, he said, to put them on the show with him so they could get paid. He said, YG just out of his own words, YG got 9,000, gave Mustard 400, gave him his 400. He said, oh, no, I'm going to become an artist. He did that right on the show, yeah. And it was funny, I forgot what platform it was. as muster was talking about when he went from a DJ to a producer. There you go.

They was in L.A. And he saw a check that that Ty had got. And he said, nah, fuck this. I'm being a producer. See? I'm trying to tell you. That's what happens. And I think that we discount money because I know you're a purist and creativity and all that.

But some people just do it for the money. Like when I first got into it, when I was managing, I was a party promoter. I DJed, but I stopped DJing. I couldn't afford to buy the records and all that. So I just stayed party promoting, hooked up with Clue, hooked up with S. I was doing concerts and all that type of stuff. Then I started managing the DJs. And I caught a break, came home or the ink, Blase, Blah, Blah, Corey Rooney and all of that.

But after I got started swerving and made a nice amount of money and started doing things, I was like, these niggas is assholes. I got to just make my money. Exactly. I got to take my emotion out of this shit because what the music was for me, it's not for them. I wish I was in the studio with Tupac to see if he really was loving the music because these niggas is fake. Right. Well, a lot of people were just chasing the check, man.

It was, I mean, bro, it was damn that 90% of people, I had to get in line. I had to start saying, yo, this is about the money because doing great music and great songs and being great beats. Everybody was like, yeah, that's cool, but you got to be connected. I could get beats from anybody just like this. Right. I got 13 niggas that do great beats and great songs

and all the rest of the stuff. So what's going to make me take your beat? Then you got to learn. Like you got to help people make money. You got to be an asset to these people. And I'm like, all right.

Well, once you do that, then they dickheads they take long to pay you. And do all the rest of this stuff. This shit ain't like that. But that's industry shit. That's the part that you don't know about until you get in it.

And you got in it. And it just started making me say, I will, I got to adjust. Yeah. In order for me to make my mark, I got to get some bread. That's always the goal.

I got to change my mindset. That was the goal to me, but like how these people would be so much on the art. See, I'm so against it now because that's how I was. And it blind. What you mean you're against the art? They think the art is everything. That's what I thought it was. I thought that the business part.

It used to be just all about. And the money used to come with that. But that's what I'm saying. But even back then, I always, since I was a manager, the business was always a factor for me. and people would downplay the business because it was so much you'd be honest you could fire your manager

you could do whatever you want back then you know it was the Wild Wild West if you had talent what? It was the Wild Wild West and you could be the dopest manager and they fire you for no freaking reason that you never get a shot again

next time you see that nigga he's driving a bus and you'd be like nigga you was into Grammys with me two years ago yeah you know what? Am I lying? Yeah that's a fool.

Yeah. You were driving the bus. You were driving a bus. Or you're a postal working. You doing some wild shit. Some shit. And not to not drive the city, but they make great money. No, it's not that.

We had a plan that was going this way. We had a plan. We was doing this. And now you completely did a 360. A 360. Now you got a dog at the crib. You moved back to South Jamaica. Life is completely different.

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No. I saw her, but didn't say nothing to her. Why not? What clip was this? Because it's a, because when I was working with her, right, I was really young, the thing of shit, right? And my biggest big was I just asked her not to do something. Like, I had a lot of female talent at the time.

I can tell the story right here. I had a lot of female at the time. So I had Yummy at the time. I had Big Draws at the time. I had the Soul Diggers, which is Kay Mack, who got Coy LaRae and then a honeyberry. I had him and his brother. I had the Smith brothers.

I was managing all these different people. And I had like a video director, R. Malcolm Jones and all the other type of stuff. Right. So when coming with Maya, when we met, she already knew she wanted me to manage her. So it was like she was coming off the Benny Medina thing. And I was trying to make sure I was going to be able to do this job. So I flew out to California with her and was out there for 10 days with her, you know, figuring it out, going to the studios, seeing the music. that she wants to do her introducing me to people.

And I was like, yo, Maya, I would be like Maya Marie. Maya Marie, yo, don't tell nobody what I'm doing with you yet. Okay. For I'm saying, I'll be like, yo, just don't tell nobody yet. You know what I'm saying? Let me break it to these girls because I got yummy. We had just signed her deal. They just bounced her check.

You know what I'm saying? We was at cash money. We signed with cash money. They bounced the check. They didn't. Yesterday they wasn't going to fuck with her no more. We was in limbo. didn't want to be like, oh, well, guess what?

I'm managing Maya now. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. Guess what, y'all? Everybody else is fucked up, but I'm on top of the mountain, you know, everybody. Right. You know what I'm saying?

So I don't want to come with that. Right. So we at the party, we at a party, right? Everybody stressed out about the cash money thing. Stress, stress, stress, right? And a dude, a songwriter comes in and says, yo, Randy, yo, I spoke to Maya today, and she told me you're the man. You're the man I need to go see.

Now you know I wrote four records on the last project. I'm like, bro. Bro, what are you talking about? Yo, I just spoke to Maya. And she said, I'm like, oh, my God. So now everybody's looking at me. Right? And I'm like, oh, what is you talking about?

Did you're the man to go see? And you're doing the records and all this other type of stuff. And when I called the, I spas out. Like, yo, what the fuck is your problem? Blase, blah, blah, blah, blah. And all I remember about the conversation was, you know, Randy. What?

What? You don't have to talk to me like that. That's all I remember. That's all I... What, she was right? Definitely. Yeah. That's why I apologize to the thing.

Okay. I was just like, Randy, but you don't got to talk to me like that. I was like, yeah, you're saying that, but you're going to cost me my shit. You know how you young and you're just getting money. Yeah, yeah. Emotional? You're emotional about everything. That's why I would tell niggas.

I'd be like, you got to take them. emotional. Trust me, that was, I was him. Raise your hand. Yeah. I was him,

nigga. So when I had to sit down and think about it, I never wanted to mention, I don't even mention her like that. Like, he might say something that somebody else

will mention her. I don't mention her because she was so, like, delicate. And that was one of the things. Remember, I said about rumors and shit. Like,

people used to say a lot of shit about Maya and none of it was true. Right. I found that out later. Mm-hmm. So when I'm, when I'm manager, I'm thinking I got a lot of capping Hall of Famers, man.

A lot of the niggas in the cap on the Fame. I'm not going to lie. Niggas was capping right to me about a, you know what I'm saying? About dating a hud, and a nigga, none of it was true, right? And it wasn't, it didn't come from her. It wasn't like, she never came to defend her honor to me ever. There was other niggas, but yo, bro, son, son was mad about boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I would be like, damn, people really, like, be on that type of time, lying on the

female about what they did that you do. That's 95% of the industry though. But my mind was so young. I'm 25 at the time no. So people were saying this

and it's rappers that I know and niggies that around me like oh son you like boom boom boom. So I'm thinking in my mind this is the dumb shit Rory that we just talked about how dudes would be thinking. I'm doing her favor. That's crazy.

These niggas. These niggas are talking about her. These niggas are talking about her. I'm doing this. I'm doing that. She should be thankful. fool that I'm not thinking. I'm not agreeing with these niggas.

Right. And that's why my attitude was like. Yeah. So you never had that conversation with it? We tried. I saw again after we did that. We saw again. We tried to go to the studio because my,

my relationship was a creative business relationship with him. Like, I'm good at picking records and knowing what should be written and who should write and stuff like that. And we just tried and she was like, I just don't feel comfortable because you screamed at me. Because she thought that you were that. I thought that. She thought that that Randy, that was that tiger that was doing that, that was going to be hers.

Got you. That I could unleash that. You're here to protect me. Got you. Okay. And I didn't understand that. That makes sense. Yo, I want you to be that way.

But not to me, for me. For me. Got you. And that's why when I went on a camera, I said, I got positive because she was the nicest person to me. I'm the artist. But sometimes you got to know how to use a grenade properly. No. And listen.

And listen. She said it told her. She said it told. So when you hold a grenade for too long, you can't be mad that the weapon you used to blow up the world, take your fingers off a little bit. But I'm different. And you know that with my people that I'm close to, she would think I could do whatever. Yeah. Because I give everybody that leeway.

That's why you fuck with me. Right. Because you do whatever fuck you want to do. And nobody's going to stop you. Right. So what's your relationship like now? You just think you haven't spoke. whenever we see each other, but for some reason, I'm going to be honest.

When I saw her at the shit, I was right after that clip where viral. And I didn't think, I didn't want her to think I did that and then saw her. Oh, got you. That's why. She was right there, literally. And she didn't see me. She was turning her head and people was calling her and they was looking at me. And I was like, I'm not going to say nothing to it.

And I was like, because if she saw that clip, which I know she did. Yeah. Oh, Randy did that shit because he was going to see me on Sunday. Oh, got you. That's nasty You gotta think like that You're like I don't even want this person

That my mind is that calculated I'm not here I was like You know what If it's meant to be I see it We're cool I saw it in LA

We're cool But of course We're not gonna be like we was Yeah It's different But it's still loved it Yeah still loved it Yeah

Where y'all at With this This Dame Cam and 50 situation That every other day It's a new update Greatest show on the internet

I hate it though, man. I mean, for all the reasons, yes. For business reasons, it's terrible. For friendship reasons, it's terrible. For the culture of hip hop, they're like, what the fuck is wrong with these dudes? These dudes is all late 40s just bickering about. We can have disagreements. My thing is we can have disagreements, right? Yeah. But when you're of a certain caliber, caliber, demographic time, age, status, I just, I just, think it's certain shit you just can't fall into. Like, I just think that we can't expect the younger dudes to behave and act a certain way,

especially on the internet and social media, when you got the elder statesmen, the guys that's been in it since before all of this shit even existed, they're doing the same shit. You know what I also don't even think the young kids are paying attention to that. I think, I'm not saying they're paying attention to it. But we'll all sit here and be like, yo, these young dudes be wilding. They'd be on the internet, social media. and shit out doing all that's corny.

Y'all don't need to do that. But then it's like, okay, dudes that's older than us is doing the same shit. But, Maul, you've been around Dame and Cam. I've spent time with Fifth. This is not in their character to back down. They didn't make all these millions of dollars lost it and make millions again by just backing down. So you got an animal in Dame Dash, Camrod and 50 cents. Remember, Cam and 50 were going at it for a little bit.

And this shit ain't stopping. It ain't. I think this is all part of 50s plan. Oh, no, Queens. That's all I want to say. He's had a hand and he broke up dipset. He's had a hand in that. 100%.

Now he's having a hand in breaking up Cam and Dames relationship. I'm going to say this. I can't believe. I'm not going to say nothing about them because everybody just spit venom and I've been able to stay out of harm as well as much shit as I talk. Yeah. I cannot believe that Cam and Dane are arguing. I can't believe.

No, I can believe they're arguing. I can't believe they're doing it on social media. This is what I mean. Anybody can argue because we know each other with men now and all that. I'm talking about like, I can't, I can't believe it. The bickering back at that level. I can't believe in the fake lawsuit and I'm not doing the lawsuit. I'm like, I can't believe that this is going on.

Not from the story, because I don't like, I'm not bringing up nobody's parents, but not from the story about how they said that Cam got with Rockefeller after all of that. If that story is true How does this ever come to How does this ever even happen? But this is a conversation Like, you know, you know certain people that you have relationships with

And you have those moments Where They say or they do some shit And it always sends a light bulb in your head And you might, it don't mean nothing in the moment But then if something happens between y'all 12 years from now you like, I always saw this in the game. And let me say this.

I'll go, I'm sorry. 50 will never, never forget when Dane went on MTV and said that million dollars ain't nothing. You broke when he got that. Oh, no, no, no, don't get it twisted. Dane was right. Niggas have been waiting to have a shot to go at Dame and laugh at him. No, no, no. People have been waiting for this moment.

Fifth. Fiff remembers all of it. Yeah, as he should. Dog, he has video. Let me tell you something. If somebody stands. over you and puts nine bullets in you, you're never going to forget anything anybody says about you. So when Dane did that video, every time he's waiting and he's relentless.

I still tell the story about what he did with Jimmy Henschman when he had the lawyers right there, had a big meeting. And then the news came up that Henschman is in jail. He stopped all the white people, walked over to me, propped the phone up and went on live and laughed at Jimmy Henschman while conducting a $20 million deal. He loves this street show. No, no, no, for sure. He's enjoying himself. He can't wait for Dave.

He's waiting for his moment to laugh and do that. But Dave is a shit talk. No, Dam is a good. These are all legendary shit talking. I mean, who wouldn't wait? But even when... You'll be waiting. But even...

Oh, it's only a couple people. And y'all know who you're off. I don't have a long list. Like, but all this shit talking, even if Dame said that about 50s, that's laughable stuff. to me. Some of it is just it started off. It felt like it was just jokes at first and shit talking, but then

it made a complete left turn. Because anytime black people start shit talking too much, if you, if niggas start cracking too many jokes, you're going to fight. But it's like what I said. It's like what I say. You say you say something because even Cam spoke about it when Dane brought up Cam getting punched in his face.

Cam said, like, you've been waiting to get that old. And I know Cam really felt that because he probably been around before. and niggas kind of like is alluding to it. But this is the thing about us as our black, like I don't even understand why that would even be a factor that if he did want to say it,

if it happened to Kim, if you my man, whether it's on some street shit and Maul, Maul was right to punch you in your face, even if my man, I'm still going to feel remorse for that situation because you're really my man. Yeah, I get it. So that's why I'm like, when all of these things come up, I'm like, damn, nobody was really each other man ever.

They were just waiting. Never. Now, see, I don't. That's why I said fifth. Never. Because fifth was never the man. Now he just laughing and breaking shit up. Niggas was connected through money.

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. Opportunity or. Desperation. No, not. But Cam and Dame's relationship was definitely not just about money. Maybe one side of it. It can be both.

Now, that's a different conversation. That's a different conversation. Because you could be, you could be moving genuine with people. There you go. And they move strategic with you. Something about something. Because it has to be. a chink in that armor

for this to occur. And that's all that I'm saying. Because if we both moving like this mall, you know that's not going to happen. Of course. Somebody is not moving a certain way. But you've had conversations with friends and family

and somebody say something, even if y'all talking shit and somebody throws something out there, you like, damn, like, that was a little like, you had your thinking, you've been waiting to bust that shot. You understand?

Like, you know, you'd be like... I'm one of those. I'll be waiting to bust that shot. All you got, and I'm talking about this happens with family, with friends and business. I got a cousin I'm waiting for. He's going to catch it. He's catching a dad. But see, I'm saying like you holding that.

You holding that. No, no, no. But me, I'm a reactionary niggins. So if you do something, I'll be like, I'll let it go. But if you start abusing it, now an example has to be made. Yeah. Because, you know, sometimes people. But does that mean y'all was ever really cool?

Because I don't really hold tabs with my, my homies. There's just no suppressing the truth. It's my style. That's how I feel. No, it's my. What's your birthday, ma'am? What's your birthday? Oh, it's coming out.

Gangsta Libra. Okay. That's what I say. I must get a rule because we think a lot. Like, I'm not holding tabs neither. No. If you're my man, I'm not holding on you. Even if I was out on you.

Even if you're, listen, I'm over it. But at the same time, that's come back to hurt me. Oh. Not holding tabs because they was holding tabs on me. But I bet it also benefited you too. Oh, absolutely. Here you go. You removed the toxins.

Absolutely. So nothing's perfect. Yeah, no, for sure. Me, because me saying I'm a very giving person. I give, give, give, give, right? I don't really get a lot of much shit. Right. But the times that I get, it'd be on time and it'd be some crazy shit.

On time, every time. It'd be some crazy shit. So I can't say I don't get. It's just that it might not be as much as I give, but because I've been that way, that's how I've met him. That's how I've stayed in Clues. Like, Clues, one of the few people, he'll be like, yo, Randy always would give me whether he had money and not, make sure he had a birthday. they give, they can dinner.

So my man, appreciation whether I'm getting it or not, same way with him, same way with ghosts. That's just me. Yeah. But it does come back to me

in different ways. I've been blessed, you know what I'm saying? But it does hurt your heart sometimes. Oh, absolutely. It gets you stabbed in the back like an MS sometimes.

Yeah. Then it makes you feel so different because when I bring you in to my small circle, I'm giving you a lot of attention and love. and affection and money and time

and I'm saying so when you damage that you don't value me you've been disrespecting me the whole fucking time and that's what the part that's the part that makes me mad or what hurt my heart

but that's how I feel about this cam and dame shit I feel like it's like it hurts to see it because I know that there was real genuine love there I know that there was real friendship there and to see it now

play out the way it's playing out And let's just be honest, I feel like it's playing out because people feel dame is vulnerable. They feel like he's in a position that, you know, he was the man at one point now he's not. Now I'm the man. It's a lot of that going on. Like, I don't need you no more. It's a lot of that energy that I don't like because it's like, don't do that because it's always going to be ups and downs. Just because you up right now, your man, well, you think he's down.

Yeah. That only means start talking crazy to him, shit on him and all of this other things. Now, granted, not saying that Cam is not wrong. right for defending himself and speaking up and talking his shit because I think he was pushed to a position where he felt like I got to come out of the corner I'm a man at the day I got to come off the corner I'm a man at the end of the day like fuck all of this like though you're not like you're talking crazy like so I get that but when it starts getting too personal when you start talking about yo your son is broke he was living with this dude see I don't be see I don't be hearing all of

that like that but that's what I'm saying I don't like that because again as as black men Yeah. My wigger. He understand, we understand, we understand that when you cross a certain line, point in no return. Now things are in danger of going a whole other route. We start bringing the kids involved. Now we, now we flirting with things going a whole different route.

I might start thinking. And we've seen this before. We've seen that story. That's part of our DNA growing up. Somebody say something that went too far. Now it's beef. They're shooting over here. he got cut this stuff like we've seen it start from like yo way that's just you know he just said something

one day and they've been beefing for 15 years behind that like what so now you're talking about doing that on social media yeah where now the world is watching this shit but didn't game come out and say he trying to squash the beef yeah but you don't have leverage to squash the beef it's past that that's true because in order to squash the beef it takes too like I got to be willing to squash it too. Now you said something about my family or something about something that I didn't want you know, didn't think you would ever say publicly. Now I'm like, nah, fuck that. I don't want that.

I didn't hear about the puns in the face. Now, I don't be knowing. But we all know. It's a thing that we all know. But it's like, how these niggas get punched and it happens? But now when you use that, when you try to weaponize that when we shit talking, now I'm looking at you like, you've been waiting to get that off. Man, privately, we know this, man. These

dudes behind the scenes are watching the phone and they're way. for a mishap. They can play in front of the camera all day. I don't be caring. Fifth is just waiting for Dame's teeth to fall out again. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, Cam,

you know, Dame is waiting for Cam to say, yo, I'm broke right now. I lost my revolt deal. Not to wish any of that. These dudes, I don't. That's nasty, though. No, no. When you're sitting around waiting for that,

that's nasty. That's nasty. I'm not waiting. No, no, no, he's waiting. He's not waiting. He's not waiting, but he can't wait. Okay, yeah, I agree that. He's not waiting, but he can't wait.

He's still doing it. I agree with him. The moment Ross's name hits a headline, Fiff's movie right there. He's not waiting, but he can't wait. That's the murk way to put it here. The only reason Fifth won't upload the videos is if he gets distracted. There was a person he was going to upload a video about.

He was going to wreck their career. And the only reason he didn't upload it because Meno came up there and he forgot to press send. And I said, yo, you think Fifth gonna upload that? They said he got 100 videos about a hundred motherfuckers. He never uploaded. He just, he just be forgetting. If he come back to it, he'll press upload.

That's crazy. He has 100 videos. I don't even want to say the names. I'm glad. I don't know what nobody got. I want to be in the middle. I got my own shit. Yeah.

Remember y'all doing? Saloo? I'm happy for you. I just be like, nigga. I told him, I said, I don't even, I grew up. with this nigga. Okay? I said,

I don't even want to mention 50 cent name on Bagfew ever. Yeah, I feel you. Okay? I didn't told niggas all types of stories and when I was a kid.

Niggins do, a, at 50. Is this true? Is this true? Yeah, it's true. But I don't even want that shit because he might just wake up one day and say,

why is Randy even saying this? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I just stay out that nigga away. Stay out that nigga away. And he don't stop. You got a powerful Cam Ran. I don't talk about Cam Ran.

They ask me questions about Jim Jones. I don't know about Jim Jones and Cam Ran. Leave me out the middle of this shit. Who else they be with Game Dash? I say a little bit of shit. I said I said on Bagfield, I said I think he's getting slanded. And people say, why are you getting slander? I say, well, Jay Z doesn't have to slander him.

Jay Z's just everybody's favorite. You know what I'm saying? He has the leverage. So, Jay Z can just sit back and just watch. everybody just do what he's doing. He doesn't even have to want y'all to do it. But your fans, it's like when you got a bunch of gang members

and somebody wants to go make a, you know, they want to get close to you. So they want to go make a point. He got a fucking a billion gang members. It's like, oh, if his name dash, it's trash, it's this, it's setting on that. So it's like, what are you going to get from that? You know? You out here defending yourself

all day. It's like Drake. I would have said, yo, Drake, I don't even engage in this. no more. Like, yo, just go do what you decided to do later. You just put songs out. People still like your records. A battle doesn't mean nothing. I said, I said, if he's just go do the songs, and I said on the show, I said, the industry isn't as entertaining since the takedown of Drake. Think about that. It's not boring. It's not entertaining. Like, that's all that I'm saying. When he was rolling around, Chris Brown's concert had all the bitches. I'm not going to

lot, right? But when Drake was in town, it was like a hysteria. It was a thing going on in New York. It was five days and parties here and fashion here. She was excited. Over here. That's how that's how it was going. I don't know what it is about him and the people he brings or who rocks with him, but he had a different type of excitement to the game. And since he's been chilling, shit been boring. Hip-hop's been boring. And now- They can't. They said it's the truth. We said it too, but it's- It has been. Yeah.

It's just the truth. But why do you say it's been boring? Nobody's, nobody who's bringing the excitement? The music. The excitement just isn't in a great record. What made our shit exciting was the personalities, the feeling that you got. When they was in public, when you saw dudes coaching at the Rucker. Drake was one of the few people.

He's outside. Yeah. One of the most accessible. My man went to Starlets with a plastic bin. He's outside. of money. He'd even break the seal. He just threw the bundles. I rock with Kendrick. I do.

Kendrick don't be outside. I think he's a talent, rap, but he's not outside. Nobody's outside. But you guys are from an outside era. All right. These kids are inside. Cardi B's rollout has been about what. Beans outside. And they're looking at it

like it's magical. And that's standard regular rollout. She's doing a standard rollout. I mean, the same thing The clips I loved their rollout. Standard rollout. But it was a very, like, they just did what anyone had done before. And the kids thought it was magical.

Because they watched it from their basement. They weren't outside. They watched their artists be outside. The clips was outside. They was accessible. They did shit downtown and, you know, I had an outside concerts. And they were popping up over here. It gave you the air of accessibility just because they decided to come outside and make

their face scene. Right. If you can reach out and touch somebody, if Nikki Minaj was outside. And I'm not talking about being in the club. I'm just talking about if we saw her somewhere beside an award show or something like that,

hysteria would be different. If she stood up on top of a truck in Soho and bananas. It would shut the whole city down. But you know what it would do? It would bring excitement to hip-hop. I agree. And this is what we don't have people do. Remember when Jay-Z spent the whole summer driving around New York and the Wrangler?

Everybody talked about that shit. Everybody went about Wrangler. It created some exciting. Oh, Hoves in the city. Nobody's doing that within their cities. So you don't feel like hip hop has been exciting since Drake... Just the battle. Once the battle died down, it's been boring.

I think we've had moments. We've had good music. Such as. I say good music. Yeah, it's been good albums. I agree there's been some good music, but it's not, it's not. Oh, you know this shit. Come on, bro, bro.

No, but I think the clips are all right. I can't say nothing. Like, they're going to kill you about it. I can't say shit. What do you think, bro? I know exactly what you're saying. Oh, my bad one. I think the clips rollout was exciting.

I like the clips rollout. To me. I like the rollout. I think, yeah, that brought a lot. That was probably the most exciting moment this year as far as hip-hop went. And I'm not saying nothing. If that's the most exciting moment, like, we got to- It's back to square one of just a standard rollout.

It's a standard rollout. That's it. But it works. And look what the- The point of rollout is to work. Think about it. They had to do all of that. I like Cardi B on the train.

better than that. Yeah. I like Cardi B fake selling the CDs. Like, I'm too fancy. I'm enjoying that. Yeah. You know what I'm enjoying for hip hop?

Like, I'm off off tilt. The Commodore skits about the hip hop story. Yeah. I'm enjoying that. Yeah. That's bringing some different flavor to hip-hop. I'm looking forward when you put...

You know what you said? Hipops lacks creativity now. Yes. When he puts up the picture saying comments, I'm telling me, stop playing with me. Drop that. Yeah.

I need to see. this shit. That's excitement. Who else is doing something like that? Yeah. Nobody. Who's the next? Because we in Roar, we talk about a lot. Like, who's the next rap superstar? Like, do we see one on the, you know,

like coming down to? I got one. Okay. I'm not him speaking. And I'm going to stay. Because of the climate that we're in and how he understands the younger audience and older people gravitate him, said he will. Okay. He could be. It could be. He could be. He could be. I'm going to say I don't know him yet. Whoever is going to be the next big executive is going to have the biggest rap.

Whoever that person is, whether he's a street executive that has money, whether it's somebody that they're going to give a job. It's just going to be that person that they believe in, like, niggas believed in Nelly and Nellie came out of nowhere. Somebody who knows how to work the system or who can take it from the studio to the DJ who understands the marketing, And whoever that person is because they got it. Kendrick and them was doing it over there with Cizzer and all the rest of the door. Top Dog was putting out albums. They got it. Whoever that next person is that gets it can make anybody big, bro.

I was hoping after QC that it would catch on again. Because there was a break between Murder Inc., Rockefeller, Rough Riders, et cetera. And then when Coach K&P came, it was like, oh shit, all right, this still exists. Because to me, they should be in the mix with cash money, anything. QC is that to me. After that, though, it's been quiet on the exec. They don't want to spend money. P had the money, and you got to remember, Coach K had the know-how from G-Z-A.

G-Z-A. So he was in the death chance system. But Earth had to know how everything and then started his own thing. We went out to dinner with a big exact, and he said they are afraid to invest in artists. They're holding tight to the money, right? And what I learned is all these execs now are 50 and above. and if they take a chance on the wrong artist and get fired they're out forever they're driving the bus

they're out forever now to their standard to this standard yeah now but understand if they were 25 they would take the risk because all these executives was taking the risk at 25 that they're not going to take at 50 because they're making all this money they get to swipe the card how many rappers budgets have been spent on yaw just to go out to dinner to convince you to play a music yes we know the deal

We know the deal. We saw a rapper. He has about 5 million followers, and his total budget was $3,000. Yeah. Yeah. And half of that was spent. They were just trying to get rid of them. Yeah.

You know how they do. They knock your budget down and say, well. It's a right off. Yeah. Let's see if you could do something with the rest of his little. Yeah. We're going to reforecast. So all these older execs, they're not taking the risk.

Or they're putting their son in charge of labels that aren't under. Oh, come on. Wait, I'm sorry. Do we not call a spade of spade of me? I'm not taking away what Elliot Grange did with 6'9. That was amazing. Trippie Red. What's the name of their company?

I think Ice Spice was under the shit too at one point. Ice Spice as well, yes. I'm not taking away from somebody that was the son of Lucian Grange. But he still, he put his little work in. That's what's happening. They're giving him the position at Atlantic, which now we have the Granges in. Wouldn't you do that with your door? Say it again?

Wouldn't you do that with your daughter? Oh, no. I think nepotism is a good thing. Me too. I fucking love it. I support nepotism. Me too. He does it though.

You don't support nepotism? You got to be good. Yeah. And I'm saying, Elliot did his thing, but I'm saying the power play of instead of empowering someone like Coach K&P, now instead I'm going to take my son that was under the universal shit,

which I own. I'm Sir Lucian Grant. Yeah, Sir Lucent. How many sirs are there? He was knighted by the queen. Sean Connery was the last one. And if I'm battling between Sony and Warner at High Universal,

Now my son is at the head of the biggest. They're on 66% of it. That's what's going on. They're not going to give somebody like Coach K and P. Whatever the new version of that is going to be. Now I'm just going to move my family around the three majors. No, the new version is going to be, like I said, it's going to be off the street or it's going to be from one of those labels that's not affiliated with them that needs it.

They only come get the black shit when they need it. When they need that street energy. They know niggas is going to buy it. They're going to support it. They're going to rally behind it and they know it. They're just going to wait and wait and wait. Like they're trying to bring the singers back right now. That's what they're trying to do.

They try to take this shit all the way around. But whoever has that, who understands the discretionary fund, who has the motherfucking hedge fund do, and understands the game. And I think record labels are going to start really signing in publicly, podcasts and streamers. They're not saying it publicly. They been supposed to start doing it publicly. But after we've seen the money that podcasts are making on Spotify,

which is way more than rappers, it's going to take about another five years publicly. Sony publicly has a podcast division, now? People don't really know that. They need a rollout of saying, we signed this to Warner Records. It's because a lot of podcasters turn down those deals from majors. I'm sure we're not the only ones that have been.

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Yeah. No, because I saw y'all ran into him. I think it was ye? We ran it to him. But it seemed like it seemed like it wasn't no negative. It seemed like it was like, you know, there was nothing negative. Him and Heineken or friends. We go back like 08.

But why you did that, see, I know what that. I know what that move is. Why you just cut it off was like, nah, that's his man. Because that's basically what you said. That's the truth. So you don't have a relationship with him? Nah, before I got on the show, I've told you about. I only knew math for nine months.

Okay. All right. Gosh. And then we was off the show. Space, what's your relationship like with him? He just spoke to him the other thing. And the other day, it was, it been a month or so. Mm-hmm.

Because I spoke to him, but... I thought it was that right. But then people tell me otherwise when I speak to him, they'd be like, well, how's your relationship, man? I'm like, I got no problem with Matt. I don't... So, oh, well, I heard, he still got a problem with him. I'm like, I don't know what y'all hammering, bro.

Yeah, we haven't been on this show for three years. Yeah. Good. I'm pretty like, bro. I'm just cool, like. And it don't benefit the conflict. It's good for YouTube, but business-wise, it don't make sense. It's work during our page.

Yeah, that's it. It's great for YouTube. Oh, good. Money. I'm not doing no work. I'm not doing no work with, I'm not looking backwards. I'm not doing no work with anybody that I was once doing work with that didn't value my work. He's not the only one.

There's other people that I work with that didn't value me or value my work. I'm just looking forward to seeing him in the shop with him, Mecca and Gab murder again. Yeah. Is that going to happen again? That ain't up to me. No, I know that, but. He's talking, he looks, I don't know what he did. He need to be looking for what bad field do or not what they do.

I like seeing everybody win and everybody consolidate. I don't. See, I don't. I'm just fucking. So, boom. I really don't be nowhere. No. Like, Rory, y'all don't understand how much Rory has to put me on to what's happening.

That's my Rory. That's my Rory. That's my Rory. These people is doing out here. Rory be texting me in the middle of night. you saw this. Nah, but thanks. Like, I don't be knowing

with these dudes be. He DMs me. Yeah. I don't know. Like, all that back and forth, man. It's just, back and forth. It's just more so

understanding what's going on and up. No, what I'm saying is from a business standpoint, it hurts us in totality in the space as creators. Just like how you said, the Dane,

Cam, and 50 thing. That's the same thing with this. It's entertaining. But business-wise, people look at that optically. It can wreck your negotiating power. people might be like, I don't like the way these guys are moving.

So it only works for us who are doing this form of content to really thrive. So if somebody's like, this show ain't doing good right now, that don't help us. Because they're going to be like, oh, they're the same type of show.

Let's give them all the same baseline money. That's how I look at it. I'm like, fuck. Look how easy shows could just drop in. You make a great point. Yeah. Yeah. Now I hear you?

Why do you think so many shows are tailing off? Like, they ain't so many. I mean, if there was a podcast. boom a once upon a time and now it's not the same no more. It's no different than the mixtape boom. We're all

starting our own t-shirt brand. Boom. The boom is done. Is it? It's done. Every now I turn around a nigga got a pot. Nah. They be coming and going. People still made mixtape.

You know how I would DJ throw something out. He's going to try to do it. There's nobody potting. I think because the camp, it costs money now. You know what I'm saying? This is a, It was just fun in games, but now they realize you got to have real cameras.

You got to have, if you don't have a space ghost, you got to have the people that you got, you got your own space ghost. It's hard to find these niggers. That's a fact. Yeah. They are the most difficult, motherfucker. I put up so much shit with space ghosts. This nigga goes on the road for 38 days.

And we'd be left for dead. And I'd be fucking pissed. But I'll be like, what am I going to do? Yeah. Nobody can do the job. Yeah. So fucking. I know what it is.

Let's go to the studio, Hynickinke. We're going to pay for this shit. And we're going to get them to send the shit to space goes because I can't even have, I can't, I don't want nobody touching my shit. Trust me. 100th. That is the only person that is allowed. You don't touch anything that I'm on the camera with.

Touch my shit. Yo, when they film the shit, when we go places, I'm like, Hineken, what? Because I don't know shit. What is this? Why are they doing that? No, no. Let me be careful with my words. He did, please don't say.

He's been spoiled. So everything he's been since he's been in the podcast space He's you know he's jumped the broom Yeah So when he gets back to what it really is He's like why they doing I'm like yo chill bro I'll be like what the fuck And I'd be saying yo what you doing?

I'm like hey such is out loud I'm like Why the fuck is it taking so long bro? Yeah Yo bro you know I ain't got this much time to fucking be here bro Like you're hiring again what the fuck is they problem I'm like yo but he'd be like The space yo that you not don't this When you have your team and y'all know how to work

got your man right here, Pete? I know he's not a normal motherfucker. No. So, Esso's used to that. That's his baseline. Base can go home right now and cut my shit up and post my shit up tonight. Yeah.

Same. So when niggins be telling me, you need how long to send me a clip? No, you're fired. Yeah. You're never coming back ever again. Ghostbe trying to help me have your, give him another chair.

So you can be out like, no. You see how my shit look fuzzy? Yeah. You see how these my shit is off? Hell no. But people like Space and Impeach, they understand the podcast genre and the fans. So they're going to cut it up that it's going to be effective. Whereas somebody that could just control this camera and knows how to edit, that doesn't matter.

They know our fans and they know what's going to work and how it should be cut up, what it should look like. What's the first thing I said to you at the pool party? I said, y'all thumbnail games is out of here. God right there. And I'd be mad at a good way. I'm like, I can't bite this shit. I want the fucking dumbness. That's Pete right there.

I can't emulate other. I said, more of the message. Yeah. I say, y'all thumbnail game is crazy, bro. This is top-tier shit. Yeah. And that's part of, you know, being great.

I like that, too. I like, I like the attention to detail that I have. Yeah. Yeah. I got a different type. I wish we was like that. Mm-hmm. We don't have that attention to detail.

Yeah. When we get that extra attention into detail, we're going to go up. Yeah. But I mean, we, we, we supported John Lenthe. We said that when the complex list came out, we definitely thought that y'all should have been on the complex list. Oh, I weaponized that clip.

Yeah. I got thoughts off of that. I sent it to other label heads. I said, he's like, why are you doing that? They're going to give us more money. He's not. I bet, send it out. No, no, but we and Rory talked about it a lot. Like, you know what I'm saying? Even though we don't, we respect the complex list because

you know, their reputable platform. and they took time to put that together. But, you know, we definitely felt like they got it wrong by y'all not being on the list. It was some guys in there that was questionable, yeah. No way. But Bagfield, y'all definitely deserve to be on that. But like I tell you, when you know, when, we're just watching our list. We saw, we saw a show that we helped build go to BET.

And everybody acts like it wasn't off our work. Yeah. It don't get no worse than that. Yeah. They little funky list. I don't know why he left me off their funky lists. I say all their lists is trash. Oh, okay.

So if a dude is saying all your list is trash, why don't you put them on a list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So I'm telling everybody, like, I'm not really upset. As long as my peers and say, yo, these niggins are supposed to be on the list, then that's good enough for me

because they're not paying us. They're not the ones that set us right that got us coming up here and all the mess. It's really the people that watch and support us. And the work that you're putting in. Listen, a homeless nigga ran down on us. A homeless, nigga, nigga. Dressed in like the KKK outfit, right?

No, no, it was... In New York. No, the Israelite outfit. The Israeli light dude. That's totally different. That's a way different thing. He was a whole white with a little bit of blue. Yeah, blue in it.

Yeah, he put a little crypt colors to it. And he was like, yo, can I get a dollar? And, you know, nobody carried cash. Right. And he's like, all them lights I give you and all them... Comments, on them like... Comments, I give you on bad view. I know.

We are rich. He's like, Mano gave me $3. Give me $2. He's a young nigga's supposed to be pauless. Yeah. What was that? I'm going to tell him.

No. We were on 6th Avenue. Right by the Trump Tower. This is right by the Trump Tower. Oh, my gosh. We were on 6th Avenue. The dude stopped us. And then another dude stopped us.

Like, I just got home today from 26 years and everybody's watching you in the jail, nigga, in Beaumont, Texas. Jesus. He was like, where he's like, every jail I go to.

I've been to every jail. And niggas was watching. y'all niggas in every fucking jail i'm like what? I'm like what? What? What? So shit we got more motherfuckers watching us too because that means if you're watching in jail you I'm only getting turning for three TV.

Talk about the cop. That got your car. Oh, oh the cop, nigger. I don't even want to say. Oh no, listen. I don't know if I'm saying. Listen, listen. I can tell the story, right?

Uh-huh. So they yanked this nigger's car, right? He broke in my car. everything. The police did it. The police took his car. Broke in my car. So it's set up for him

to go to jail and get arrested. Yeah, I'm supposed to go to go to jail. So we go down there to go get the car. He's like, yo, hi, this is the key to the safe. I'm taking my Rolex. I said, all right, cool. I'm going to bail you out. This chick looks and says,

my boyfriend. No, no, you skipped. And she said, I'm trying to verify your identity. Because we're like, oh, they're trying to put the cups on them. Because the nigg said when she does that, the cops is going to come out back and they're going to arrest you. So I said, I'm getting chills in my heart.

Look at this shit. I said, VETF my identity. The whole time I'm like, I don't want to go back to jail again. Oh my God. Hepatitis C is only on the wall. It's fucking smells like shit in there. I'm just driving this shit, right?

So she says, I'm trying to verify your identity. So I'm like, I'm Randall Parker. And she says, are you from Backfield? Because my boyfriend watches his. you all the time. Is that you? Yeah. Yeah, that's me. She's like, hold on. Let me get my boyfriend on FaceTime. Do that. Get him on FaceTime.

Yeah. Do that. He said, guess who I got here? I got ASO here. I said, my co-host is right back there. Oh, I'm up right on the shit. Hey, I'll follow him back and everything. Just let us get this car. She said, she said, do you have $377 right now? I said, yes, I do. She said, okay, I'll be right back. and got you the car. And she said, we're the only people

that had our paperwork. I had my registration there. I just so happened to get the shit offline. No, and Jerry Wonder and then printed it out because we had Jerry Wonder

they printed it out and Jerry Wonder studio, nigga. Yeah. I took my shit down there. Because the reason why is the cops took his registration

and his license out the car. I can tell you why after it. Yeah, we can't say, okay. It wasn't criminals. The cops took it.

It was a felony, boy. I called my detective homeboy. He said, There's nothing I could do for you because I'm not in that department. He said, but they're going to arrest you. Yeah. We got a crackdown going on. You're going to jail.

And I'm like, this is crazy. And she said, do you have $377 right now? I said, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah, I do. Of course I do. She said, okay, well, if you pay $377, I can get you your car. I looked at this, like, when they come in. I'm like, they're coming out.

Yeah, this is too good to be sure. I'm like, they coming up from somewhere. She said, do you mind following me? I said, follow me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nah, we're not doing that. Put your boyfriend. Yeah. Welcome to your crib and do a live podcast.

I didn't know. I didn't know. I'm worried about. Yeah. Shout out to you. N. U.S. Y'all on your living room couch.

Oh, yeah. Yo, she let me go. I can't even say to y'all, but, yo, she left. And the whole time I got home, I was like, yo, I would be in fucking jail. And I was supposed to fly out to Rochester with Clue and all and go to Houston. Go to H-town and everything. I was like, oh, I'm going. All of that.

was going. Have they ever did a live show in Houston? Couple. Yeah. Oh, okay. Fire, right? Absolutely. Because we ended up going to the YN club in Houston.

Which one? Dome. Dome. Dome. Dome. We did shoot the jump shot to get the, huh? Dome, okay. D'amara said just came back from Houston like the Dome.

She showed us footage. That place was in Dome with me. Yeah. Yo, and they let the fucking confetti fly. And they have your name on a jumbo trow. That's a clue's name. They bought out the bad. This shit is.

mythical, yo. Yo, bro. But I'm not park. Camp, so I'm thinking of it. And they shoot the basketball for the free section. They shoot. Yeah. And if you hit it, there's a hoop.

Confetti comes down like you want the championship. And it's a hoop with bottles and everything. They're like, okay. Oh, wait. No, I practice for that. You show. I show it. If you make the shot, you get a free section.

I would shoot 100 free throws the week before. Yo, and they got a ball awards too. Yes. That if you buy a table and I come in to pay more for the table, your table gone. Yeah, they kick you out the table. My table. Ball award.

Yeah, that's why I don't go out nothing more. No, that's a fight. Yeah, I'm not doing all of that. Yeah, I'm not doing all that. They do that at my dispensary now. I do a little put-putt shit to get like 50% off. See? You walk in if you hit the put-putt up.

Where's this at? I'm just going to smoke, though. We're there, bro. Yeah, I put you in the name. It's in Jersey City. It's too much shit going on right now. No, when you walk in, you have to do a put-putt. And they're like, yo, 50% off.

I've missed it all three times I've been there, but. Yo. I'm gonna get it one day. I remember there was an episode and they was talking about like how you was cheap and you don't like taking girls out and I'm like,

that's a fucking false narrative because I see more like all the lit restaurants. All the lit restaurants. I'll be like, I just let them talk shit about it. I was like, yo,

this is a $400 bill right here. And more just be in the cut. No, you know what up, niggas? We was eating it and mall was in the cut. I'm always in the cut, though. Yo, every lit restaurant,

I was like, is that more? He stand up real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like, yo, I love. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Keep me low. That's the law. You don't practice that.

I do this from cross. I see you with love. Keep me low. I'm like, you didn't see me. I'm like, how are your crew saying he don't spend no money out on deck? Because I'm like, I just let people talk. You know, it's funny? A girl brought that up to me last weekend.

She was like, yo, I heard you was cheap. I was like, where are y'all getting this from? Like, this is affecting my real life now. Like, where are y'all getting this from? I almost called Rory and curse him. I'm like, motherfucking, stop saying it. Because this shit has trickled down

until the real world. Well, first of all, she's not here to defend herself. Damaris is the one that say that. You are the person that says it yourself that you don't trick. No, I don't trick. I don't trick.

I don't try you people. I don't pay for pussies. Yeah, I don't do that. But I'll definitely go on nice restaurant. I'm not. I'll pay for pussy, though. What, no judgment? Tricking is out.

Tricking to me is you buying a bitch a bag and all that to get some pussy, but a nice little working. girl two, three hundred dollars and take her down, that's different. Yo, that is crazy. Yo, handing a girl 200 and she started getting naked. Yeah. That is the wildest shit.

I've tried. Yo, I've tried the trip. No, no, no. I've tried to pay for pussy. And I literally could not do it. We're going to Columbia. Come on my birthday. No, I'm not doing that.

I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing Colombia. For me, I would, I would pay for pussy. That would be my first time. You see, I mean now it costs now to go. You never paid for pussy neither?

Oh. He's a great life. No, no. I'm old. I'm old and shit. But now understand. Wow. I tried to do it.

I physically got sick. He's a Rockefeller nigger. Like, I got sick. Like, I was like, yo. What? No, but I gave, I, I was, I handed out of money. And I'm like, so now we just fuck. He's like, yeah.

He's a real nigger. He's not a lot of a fellow nigger. Like something, I just can't. Like, I can't pay for it? My nervous system. My nervous system doesn't, like, it just... But we're taking off of dinners before you fuck. But I've done that before.

If I go to dinner to the girl... You know you're going to fuck. You're more already. No, I don't. No, no. You're not doing that. You're not doing that. You're not going to fuck?

Yes, I do. I do. I get that all the time. Get the fuck out of here. I go to, I go on dinner. I go on dinner dates. I go on dinner dates all the time, bro. But why?

I'm not looking for pussy to get to know people. Wait, hold on Hynicki. Just to kick you with a cute girl. Yeah, like, I don't know. Maybe. She's funny and cool. Honeykin, let me ask a direct question.

No, I'm a, just time out. Do you normally fuck after your regular dinner dates with the nice women? Not normally. No, no, no. Listen, listen, listen.

No, no, because I've been on, no, because I've been on dinner dates with women that I've had sex with before, but after that dinner date, we didn't have sex. But you've been on, no, no, I've been on. I've been on, I've been on dinner. I've been on dinner.

I've been on dinner. That don't count. Hold on. Oh, no. The dinner don't count. Come on. No, no, listen, I'll get the dinner until I smash. You smash first, then you get you to death.

That is crazy. We're just going to eat, though. You're like, God, damn. I'm just going to eat. Like, you got to smash in order like, nah, I'm not. I don't live like that, bro. I don't even know if I like you to go eat with you.

Yeah, that's why you go to dinner. You kick it with her. No, I could like you at dinner in a disgusting. No, if I meet you at dinner and I like you in the sex is trash, I don't like you. So we might be to get to the sex first. That is. Let's cut off.

Let's cut off. Let's trim all the fat. Yo, I thought I was crazy. That is crazy. Now, I literally, I go to dinner with a woman and it's like, obviously she's attractive. I'm attracted. So we know that. But if she says, yo, I'm going home.

I'm not going to like, all right, yo, get the fuck out. Like, I'm not going to be mad that I'm not having sex. How many times can she do that? I didn't say you were mad. No. My question to you. Am I going to dinner? Like, in hopes of getting?

In hopes of. No, I didn't say it in hopes up. You're moving to go. I'm asking you. I'm very direct. On the supposed dinner date that you're going now with the cute girls,

do you normally smash after the cute date with the girl? I'm probably, I'm probably a strong 46% from the field. That's a good, that's a high number. That's a great number. I'm like 46% from the field.

I think the fucking number. I think you're at least 68%. Because niggins usually like, like, You mean, niggins usually fucking like, like, um, the niggins that's killing water down in numbers. They would see who likes them, no. They were usually niggins wait to see, they want to type of shit. I'm going to see who like me. And if she's attractive enough, then I'm going to go out with her.

So you already know you're going to that. So the playing field is already kind of rigged normally. Yeah, but I just, I don't, I don't have that in my life. You let them off the hook. No, it's just like, yo, we had a good time. That sounded crazy. If it let them off the hook. That's all I'm saying.

It's not that mindset. That is literally, we had a good time. And sometimes she might say, yo, I don't want the night to end right now. Like, let's go home. Let's go. Like, okay, cool. But if she don't say that, cool, too. I'm not, you know, I'm not true.

It's always cool. It didn't know, like, you're going to give it to me. And I'm just saying, I had a cup of her kidnapping. I've been in the music business for 30 years. I'm an old man. I'm about to be 49 years old in November. And in my experience as being in the music business for 30 years is not very hard to get pussy.

That's not. They are giving you the pussy on a platter. You usually fumble more pussy than you probably. That is a fact. That's where I don't believe you're 46%. Thank you. Thank you. You are talking like a 46%.

Thank you. What's up, bro? If you were leaving pussy... If you were leaving pussy... I'm not going to get the time frame. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All of us have taken pussy on a platter that was right there. But sometimes in this crazy world...

Not me, Roar. We see women. that we may like and be like, hey, we should go out a date without thinking that out the gate. That doesn't mean that we wouldn't just fuck to the girl that was just throwing it out there. Yeah. We're going out for a reason. Not because the pussy

I'm hungry and I like a company. Listen. It's not because I think this only pussy. I could go get some regular pussy real quick. Sure. The best part of a date is the sex after the date. Yeah. That's the best part of the day. Yeah. That's going on the day. I'm going on the day because once I get a little twisty. You know why the stout. I don't go back and smoke a little bit. That's the

best part of the day. Well, yo, you, more. Yo. You, Ma, what happened?

It's it. Yo, she was fire. What? It's inspirational. I'm like, I got it went to chip too.

It didn't happen. More what happened. She was cool. Yeah, we had a good time. We went. We going for the fire. She was,

you know what I'm saying? No, for sure. But I just, I just, I hate that. That's like a narrative that I'm cheap. I'm not cheap. I think you take out

got more fire than the easy pussy at the bus. I'm like, this is all top-tier restaurant. for you to be cheap. People think niggas is cheap because you don't buy them a burkin. Yeah, which is crazy. I'm cheap.

I'm the cheapest. Because because... I don't even know where you get one. Because listen. Where do they sell it? I'm going to get it. Where do they sell it? No, you guys think I'm joking.

Canals Street. Where could you go get one? Right on Canal Street. Today I could not... If somebody said, go get a burk and I'd be like, how do you get one? Right in front of these... What is it? I'm sure.

I'm sure I'm sorry for Thibon. You can do it. definitely get one online. Online. Right in front of that McDonald's or Canal Street. And this is like $25,000? Some of $5,000. You're buying a bag for $25,000 online to me is the credit.

Now, I got to hold that shit. I can't buy it online. Shout to Bonnie Nelson. This was back in 2009. Bonnie had the Birkin bag with the little burkin to go in it. She was on some other level. Yeah. That bad culture is a culture.

No, I agree. I just don't know what they're selling. I got a side chick asking for a $2,000 bag right now. Saying side chick out loud is... He ain't got nobody. Oh, okay. It's not a side chick. They all inside a shit.

They all are side chick. He can't have a side chick. His new nickname is Den Zizzles because he got all the pictures covered to him. Because everybody thinks I'm mean. That's what I'm saying? So everybody would be thinking this is the running joke and he knows it. He's like the real mean one and I'm actually the nice one. He cracks jokes about to everybody thinks he's mean.

Yeah. And the bitch is just walk right around me and be like, hey, so on and so. I'll be looking at this nigga that. He's his house over here. He's just, he's just raking them on there too. Like, yeah, he's me. He's real being. He's thinking he's me here.

We go in this right here. This is about to go to another level. You know, tell them where they can catch y'all at. How they can watch you. How they can listen to y'all. YouTube, Doc. Use bagfield. Type in here.

You go to Bagfield. You go to Bagfuel. On YouTube, on Instagram, go to E-S-S-O-R-D. It's no O-N-N-N-A-N-A-N. That's me. And you can go to Hy-N-A-N-A-K-N. You can just go to our pages and you can find everything. Just hit the follow button, you are?

It's the cheapest thing you can ever do. Yo, this was great. We got to do this some more again, man. This could be weird. We got to do this again, man. Y'all niggas is crazy. Thank y'all for coming through. We finally got to have a conversation on camera.

Appreciate you. That's bag, fuel. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. Mm-hmm. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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