New Rory & MAL - Checking In With Frankie Quiñones

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Rory and Mal check in with comedian and actor Frankie Quiñones to talk his new comedy special on Hulu "Damn, That's Crazy", what he thinks of his peers going to Saudi Arabia to perform at the Riyadh Comedy Festival, and if he's worried about ICE showing up to his shows #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Or tomorrow? Tomorrow. Tomorrow on Hulu. Damn, that's crazy. funny guy from Los Angeles, California. This might be our first LA guest since DJ head. Has it? Yeah.

Yeah. You think so? So it was kind of like a little to know. Oh, we broke our rules for this, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't messing with no L.A. people.

We're in a very deep beef with the city of Los Angeles right now. So yeah, this is totally joking, man. We're funny guy. Frankie Kinos. How you feeling, man? Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks.

Thanks for coming through. I know you're busy. Look, man, Roy, we don't know if we're going to ever see this guy again. You know, once these comedians get their first special. they start acting. Well, the Hulu type of specials. Yeah, and the Hulu special. So Frankie has a dope special coming out.

How are you feeling about it? I feel good, man. Said you was nervous. What are you nervous about? No, no, I'm not. I mean, more excited than nervous. Okay. I'm hoping that, you know, it performs well.

Yeah. We're happy with the way it came out, man. Because y'all, standard comedians, y'all have, I mean, me and Rory talk about it a lot. It's such a, like, a job that requires a certain level of just, like, guts and just like no emotions because you just don't know what to expect every time you step out on stage. Right. Right. So with a special coming out on Hulu, that level of, I guess, nerves and kind of like not knowing how it's going to be perceived has to be on a totally

different level. Right, right, right. Yeah. I mean, you know, just laying it down was the most important thing just getting it, just being proud of it. So that's cool. But yeah, you're right, homie. It's the most probably high pressure thing because there's you, the mic, and a crowd, and they're just looking at you like, what you got, motherfucker? All right, shit, let's go, you know. So now, if you bomb on stage, like, what do you pivot to? Like, once you feel the crowd is like they're not fucking with me tonight. Like, how does Frankie pivot in the set?

Well, shit, thankfully that don't happen to. I have no more than that. But on the come up, yeah, you know, it's going to happen. Yeah. So, yeah, bro, you just try to commit to your jokes or try to just go into crowd work or just you try to just get yourself out, you know. But, you know, when you get to a stage where you get just more comfortable, no matter what happens, you know?

You're like, all right, the crowd ain't vibed me. It's all good. know, chilling. Yeah. But in the beginning, I bet, oh, shit, it's not going good. You know, you go to the jokes. Yeah, you just get, you get scared, you get scared, bro. But you have to go through that shit, you know, through the journey to get where you're at.

Yeah. What's the difference between, you know, just going to the comedy store or comedy club versus shooting a special? Well, man, you know, when you're doing your sets in town, it's just, you know, you're kind of just working out, doing the thing. But, but yeah, those places are great. You know, I'm a paid regular at the comedy store. It was like a dream come true, you know, especially my mom and dad were die hard, stand-up fans, so they would go to the comics when they were dating or to the Hollywood Improv, so now they get to see me at those places.

But it's always an honor to walk through those doors. And yeah, you're just, you're always part of it. There's always showcases, you know, there's always like six, seven comics on the bill. And when you're working out in those rooms, it's all hitters, you know. So you're just like amongst the best of the best. And so you're, you kind of elevate your game to be able to be on the same stage as those dudes, you know, but it's cool, man. But yeah, recording the special is, you know, you got to have your shit.

polished up, dialed in. And there's room to play, you know, do a little crowdwork, but, you know, you're serving them up the sheet you've been working on for the last whoever, how many years. Yeah. Yeah. Is it, uh, is the rumor true that when comedians shoot a special, they purposely try to put attractive people in the first three rows? And if you're like, ugly enough, they'll actually make you move.

Yeah. Because I've heard a couple comedians. Yeah. They do have, like, uh, casty, like, audience people, you know, that they hire to just kind of, I think it's more to make it feel diverse as possible, whatever. But I'm sure if somebody was ugly as hell, like, where it's going to just make the cameraman uncomfortable, you're like, oh, shit, you know, like, that makes great content

for the comedian, no, like, you want somebody that's like, look at this ugly mother. Exactly. But you got a tight hour that you want to do and then you just stop for 15 minutes to take. Yeah, I understand having attractive people like in the front for the special. Because it's like, you know, it's going to be, it's going to film. then we're going to put this on Hulu and things like that. But like as a comedian, you kind of would want, you know, strange, weird people in the front because it kind of gives you some type of material to kind of play off of a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, that's all good. There's different types of comics, obviously. Like, there's the ones that go out and they're just looking to clown on whoever in the audience. I'm more like performing like a storyteller, you know, voices and stuff like that. Like, obviously, if there's something that's just calling me out right up front, you're going to lean in. You got to lean the time. I got to say.

Well, how ugly do they have to be? To really catch your attention. What's the ballam. Like, what's the ugly meter? Like, like, oh, no, I have to kill this person right here. This is way too ugly to be in the front. So, yeah. I have to kill this person.

I have to get this person right in the front. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because their life isn't already hard, right? Yeah, yeah. They just came to laugh and enjoy themselves. Now they have to be reminded. I'll probably be extra nice of that person. They're already going through it, you know, if they're not ugly, bro.

You're talking about some level of ugliness. Now, do you have, because I read that you, You have some of the funniest skits. I follow you on social media. Your skits are incredible. I read that you were a big and living color fan. Oh, man. And I talk about the importance of in living color a lot.

To me, it's probably the funniest sketch comedy series of all time. I know a lot of people like SNL. Like, I was never a big SNL guy. I was more living color. How did that growing up help you identify like that's what I want to do? Yeah, bro. I mean, you know, back of the day about me and my, as a family, we were watching Living Color, like, religiously. You know, I mean, that's why I always bring it up. Because it's like you said, like, I like the golden era of S&L, you know, when it was, when they had the hitters on there. Yeah. I really enjoyed that. But there was nothing like a living color, man. Just, you know, just seeing, they were just like no holds bar, just doing whatever.

You know, they had Jim Carrey, you know, obviously the Wayne's brothers. And they weren't afraid to go anywhere with it, man. But, you know, Jamie Fox. Yeah. They were like Lawanda on there and all that. Oh, man. I love the, a lot of the clips are going viral from in Liverpool now. I found the, Jim Carrey did the Johnny Abdul. He was the, I think he was Indian or Pakistani singer. I was like, this would never fly over in 2020.

But I love the fact that those clips go viral when people see it. Like, this was a form of comedy back then. And it was on national television. It was on like Fox, I believe, right? Wasn't it on Fox? Every Sunday, homie, this was on television, but the world was just a different place as far as, like, sensitivity and then things that you could talk about and make fun of. As a comedian, how do you kind of navigate through, like, just the current status and the current state of society on the jokes that you write and the things that you perform on stages? It's something that you keep in mind or you're like, fucking, I'm leaning into the uncomfortable shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, no, I go, I mean, I've never gone, like, too crazy anyway, but there was definitely. definitely a period where the whole like people getting canceled and when people start going after comedians, I'm like, come on, y'all. First of all, these are all jokes. We're not in here running for a political office. Unless it's in Saudi Arabia. That's a little.

Oh, shit. You're a little different. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's just like, we're just joking, homie. But there was a period where like, fuck, man, like that fool got called out for that. And you're kind of walking on eggshells. And that's not a good feeling as a comic. It's like, bro, we got the mic.

Like, let's do our thing. So, yeah, there was a. It was a time when I was like kind of, I wouldn't say I was holding back. I was just like when I'd be writing, like, right, let me not touch that for right now. But now it's like, I feel like we're gotten to a place where it's kind of balancing out. You know, people are like, you know, fuck this shit, man. Like, we got to be able to say. Comedy is supposed to be.

Comedy is supposed to be. Yeah. And there's different genres of comedy. I love even shock comedy, dark comedy, you know, as funny as funny as funny to me. Yeah. So they should be able to be able to be able to be able to, I'm not going to be funny. I'm not going to be funny. I'm not going to be like, oh my gosh, what can't believe?

You know, it's just like, come on, bro. So we just saw a whole list of A-list comedians go to Saudi Arabia and put their hands in the sand and do that whole thing. Is that something? With the hands of the sand? Yeah, no, no, I don't know what that is. I don't know what that thing is that they're doing over there. But when that check cleared, I guess you got to go over there and do what you got to do. What would it take for Frankie to go over there and put his hands in the sand?

Like, what's the number? Like, you know what? Oh, shit. Come on. You put me on the spot like that. I'm just saying because. The exact number. Say that loud.

Because these are the A listers that are over there. This is Dave. This is Kevin Hart. This is Bill Burr. Like, these are the guys. So, like, what would it take for Frankie? Blay? Yeah, you know what?

I'm going to. I'm putting my hands in the sand. I mean, shit, bro. You know, they got paid. You know, I know the, I think the lowest amount of comment got for going out there was like 300K or something like that. Full expenses paid everything for one show. And it's like, you know, but there was like, Gabriel Glass is a friend of mine,

Fluffy. He went out there. I was shooting a film with Tom Segorah right before he left out there. Okay. And it was just like, you know, they were like, man, I'm paying crazy doing this thing. It wasn't like a heavy issue as far as like what their, you know, requirements were and what to, that or they were. So they didn't give them no restrictions on?

Sometimes you got to do a clean set here and there or whatever for TV or whatever it is. But I don't know. I think people made a bigger deal out of it than it should have been. I mean, look at our country. I mean, our country's fucked up in all kinds of ways and we perform here all the time. Like, you want to make a big deal out of that. And then it's just one show. I don't know.

I think people are just leaning, leaning into hard and all of that shit, the political shit. Oh, we have to have an opinion about these comedians going to Saudi Arabia now. What do you think? What's your side on it? I don't know if they're going to get, they're doing the show. But it's always been because I guess the cultural differences. Right, right, right.

From between America and in that part of the world. So to see our comedians going over there, the content, the jokes that they're going to be telling, like, it's just a different space for our comedians to kind of go into. Yeah. And I get it. I know there's some fucked up shit out there. Yeah. Whatever.

The way they, you know, the way. The fuck of those people are treated. The journalists that they burnt, I guess. It's like some heavy shit, you know. The guys we paid over there for 9-11. Right, exactly. Yeah, it's crazy. But at least, I think maybe comedy going out there, maybe a step forward for them.

Like, hey, shit, we need to lose stuff. Oh, it was definitely a step forward. I mean, even if I have, like, some disagreements in working with the Saudis, I feel like if I, if I express that, I'm putting myself in a smaller box because the shit, China damn near owns the NBA now. I'm supposed to be mad at somebody that wants to get drafted to the NBA because now you have requirements to not say shit about China. LeBron was most outspoken athlete ever. China got brought up.

He started right back to his book. I'm cool on talking. So like once you have like a full-blown, and that's why I think why Bill Burr got killed so much because he has been so outspoken towards like billionaires. And I agree with him there. But the more you talk, the more you put yourself in a smaller box and not realize like, yes, I'm anti-Israel. but I still have Verizon, who's one of the biggest fucking contributors to Israel ever. So sometimes I just shut the fuck up

when it comes to that stuff. Because I'd be a hypocrite. Frankie, what was your, because you said your parents were big stand-up fans. Yeah. Like, you don't hear that often. So you wanting to be a stand-up comedian. Like, how did you, how did that conversation go

with your parents? Like, did they let you know you weren't funny since they were stand-up fans? Or did they, like, say, okay, yeah, you got something that they encouraged you and help you move. into the stand-up because you don't hear a lot of parents

being stand-up comedian fans and then their children wanting to be stand-up comedians and they support that. So what was that like in your household? Yeah, I mean, you know, it was cool. I didn't start until I was 25.

You know, I'm in my 40s now, but, you know, them having it on the house. They knew that they inspired me to want to get into it. And I was always class clown, all that bullshit, but I got a sprinkler head on my dad's work truck.

I'll do little performances for them even as a youngster. But like I said, you know, we watch everybody. Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, and all these new, Paul Rodriguez, his first dude looked like me,

and specials were like a more bigger deal back then, you know, it was like three HBO specials a year. I might be like, cover your ears on the back person. And I'm like, hey, just watching this shit. I was like, inspired. I was like, damn, this is incredible, you know, this dude with the mic just bringing all these shit to life. But, uh, but yeah, then it was like,

I was like, I'm going to do standup and they were proud and excited. But then, you know, I started, you know, and then I became a starving artist. I was 10 years in sleeping on my boy's couch. They were just worried. Like, yo, you know, you're 35. What the hell you don't. Yeah.

what's up, you know, I'm a comedian. Yeah. You know, just like, so they were always supported, but there was definitely a period where they were like, yo, what the fuck? It's kind of nervous. You know, and I was, yeah, it was worried about their son and shit. So I was like, but in my heart, I was like, nah, man, that's what I'm here for. And thank God, you know, when I was 36 is when it popped for me finally.

So, yeah, now they're just super proud, bro. Would they go to your sets before that? Or for, like, years they did. And then once you hit 35, it was like, we're not supporting. Yeah, they still were, but they're like, you know, yeah, because it was 10 years. in and it wasn't, you know, but it's just that crying, bro. You know what I said? It's a different path for everybody.

But people like, even when my videos start going viral, they're like, oh, he got lucky, he's overnight success. I had already been doing stand-up for 10 years, you know? Yeah. So when they finally happened, they were like proud, you know, they were like, all right, shit, we did it, motherfucker, that. Yeah. One of the Mexican comedians that I love that everybody kind of seems to always give a lot

of shit to is George Lopez. Right. Is he... Does he get a lot of shit? Yeah. Like, for some reason, George gets shitted on a lot. And I don't understand. I loved his show as a kid.

I don't understand why people who shit on George. Like, what does he mean to you personally? Like, what did he, his success and seeing him on television mean for Frankie? Yeah, I mean, he was one of the, straight up. He's one of the reasons that I started doing stand-up. You know, he came out with a special called Why You Crime. Yeah. Bro, when I watched that, I was like literally jumping up and down in my living room.

Like, every bit was exactly how I grew up, he nailed every bit. And then when I saw it resonate with other people and other backgrounds, And I was like, damn, this motherfucker did it, you know. So it was cool. You know, and he's the homie now. I've been to his crib and stuff like that. But yeah, he's, you know, he got caught up in some shit where he's bad-mouthed in some people. And then, you know, young gun coming up, Ralph Barbosa, who's hilarious, bro, who is so funny.

He was on a podcast kind of talking of your shit. Like, who is it? Like, he's a no-name. Like, Ralph Barbosa's a no-name. But it helped Ralph Barbosa's, like, following, like, shoot up, you know? And George called him and was like, yo, man, I didn't mean nothing by it, whoopty-who-w him. Yeah. But yeah, he's kind of a bad rap because he got real political too, you know?

Yeah. Oh, see, I missed that. He got really anti-Trump and stuff like that. So, you know, a lot of, there's a lot of Latinos that are Republicans, you know what I mean? So they get that machismo, like, you know, that's our guy. Yeah. So he got shit for that. He kind of just got caught up and stuff.

But he was, you know, whatever, homie. He was just always speaking his mind and doing his thing. He did. For me, he did it, bro, already. Yeah, absolutely. He's a legend. No matter what he does after he did that, what he did. You know, so it's like, you know, yeah, he's a legend.

Now, we just got, you know, they just released the news that Bad Bunny is doing the Super Bowl. Yeah. In the Bay Area. He did a, he did an incredible series of shows in Puerto Rico this summer. Yeah. It's like his Vegas residency, had people come see him. But one of his things was he didn't want to do shows in the U.S. in fear of ICE being at his shows and then detaining some of his fans that were there or arresting some of his fans.

and his fans that were there. Is that something that you think about at your shows? Do you think about ice outside your show? And is that like a barometer? Like, I made it once ice starts coming to my shows. Is that like, yes, I'm lit now? Well, you have to reserve 20 tickets for ice. They're like, are you spreading ice ages out around the show?

No, they're the first two roads. Unless they're ugly. Yeah, we need ugly ice agents spread around Frankie's show. Like, is that the barometer? Like, yo, if ice is at my show, I'm fucking. You know how they accuse celebrities of calling a paparazzi sometimes? Imagine a Mexican comedian calling ICE and they go, now we're good. We need 10 VIP All Access Passes just for ice.

Just for ice, yeah. I mean, fuck. Because I understood what Bad Bunny was saying, I get it. But like, is that something that, you know, because that level of success, like when you're worried about that, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to a whole other. So is that something you aspire to? Like, I need ICE agents outside of Frankie shows. No, no, bro. I don't know.

But that is fun. That is some funked up shit. But you hear how they said, they're like, we're going to be at the Super Bowl. You know? Yeah, but I mean, we know who's going to be at the Super Bowl. We know the audience. That's a predominantly white Americans that are at the Super Bowl. They'll be volunteer.

I say this. It's not, like, I don't think Bad Bunny has anything to worry about about that show in the bay and people being arrested. Like that, the Super Bowl audience, no matter how big the Super Bowl gets, we understand the halftime show is more diverse now. and we love that. But the actual game in the stands, not much has changed with the audience at the Super Bowl.

Right, right, right. It's still a predominantly white event. Yeah. I thought it was dope when he was on that set down. He was like, if you didn't understand what I just said, you got four months to learn Spanish. You got four months to learn Spanish. Yeah.

I was just like, he's dope, man. No, Bad Bunny, no, he's incredible. I mean, I just, I don't know how I feel. I still think there's a lot of, you know, with the Super Bowl and Bad Bunny, particularly being the next artist performing. I just feel like they're still leaning into the political things that are going on. For sure.

Like it's like because we had Taylor Swift, you know, we were throwing around some names of who we thought would do it, especially after Taylor and Travis got engaged. Right. We all thought Taylor Swift is definitely doing the Super Bowl. Like this is a whole story. We can see the NFL rolling this whole thing out. Kind of ushering Kansas City back to the Super Bowl,

helping them out a little bit. But then when Bad Bunny got it, it was like, he's incredible amazing artists huge international audience but it still feels like there's some political things in the background attached to it for me could be an ice setup to be honest you're looking at it from the wrong lens they could have done that purposely ice to super bowl yeah okay I didn't think about that it's like you know the DUI stop zones here's what we're going to do here we've got a plan here we put bad bunny in the super bowl yeah I mean, you got to look back to Bay of Pigs, like all the conspirators, like all this shit that we've...

What's that fake shit that started a Vietnam War? Like, you have to understand. They've been plotting the CIA for a long time. They've been waiting for this for years. They've been waiting for Bad Bunny. And I feel like it should be a safe haven for the day of the Super Bowl. If you're an illegal immigrant, have the money and a credit card to get a Super Bowl ticket, knowing Bad Bunny is going to be there with ICE.

I feel like you should get a pass. Yeah, yeah. Like that's a rate, like that risk is crazy. Yeah, like today. Just let us enjoy the game. Let us have fun. This is just a bad bunny show for us. But I do love the fact that he is doing the show.

I think it's incredible for his audience and to have that whole culture tuning in specifically for his performance. I think it's incredible. As a Mexican-American man, you feel seen that a Puerto Rican is doing the halftime show, right? Yeah, for sure, man. Just a Latino, yeah. As a Mexican man, you still see that a Puerto Rican is doing it. I thought it's funny you were asking him. Like, all the teams are the same.

No, no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I was saying as far as having ice or in fear of ice showing up to my shows. We had, I'm sorry, Felipe, what's his last name? Sparza? Yeah, we had him on the show and. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's about, dude. We just did a show together on Saturday. Mall had asked him what it was like coming up doing stand-up in Mexico.

That's not what I said. He was like, I'm from America. I said, no, that's not what he said. Fucking Felipe said, I don't know. He said, how was it? How was the comedy scene in Africa? It's something like that he said like, I don't know. I'm from LA.

But that doesn't mean that, because I didn't know if, you know, they have a comedy scene in Mexico. I didn't, I've never been to Mexico enough to know if they have a comedy scene like we do in New York with a bunch of different clubs. It's not like out here, but it's coming up though. Yeah? Out there, yeah, the scene. But I don't know. You know, I didn't grow up there. But, yeah.

I know. So you do, do you wear some barrow when you do your stand-up? Obviously, you are much different than the character, Creeper. And for those that don't know, you do a hilarious sketch series called Cholo Fitt, where Creeper is the main character. Licensed trainer, is there anyone in your family that gets a little bit offended? Because that's, it's definitely a character. Like, you're nothing like that guy.

But you have to draw inspiration from somewhere in your inner circle. Is anyone ever like, hi, man? Yeah, my pop. This is about me. Yeah, yeah. I got cousins, and then my, but my pops is a main one. My dad always had, you know, lowrider, his best friend was president of a lowrider car club for over 30 years. Baptized me. That's my, my nino, you know, my godfather. And, yeah, man, when they get together, it's funny. They're like old school creepers talking about. My dad was always Chuck Taylor's,

Dickie's crease, white tea, palm comb. You know, we got the palm cone with the three flowers at the best of what is. It's just like, slick the hair back. He used to have a 65 Impala with the little chain steering wheel. And, yeah, but one of the most positive people I know, man just repping the stiloh though right driving me little league practice and shit like hey miho you know we're car treat people respect right now so suck you know but um so my dad is real positive but he's not a fitness instructor but yeah creeper's just an extension of that you're saying and just yeah doing this thing what type of music were you listening to in l.a growing up well see my mom and dad are like die hard old school funk fans you know they listen to everything though music was always big in the house but um yeah yeah man they

my sister's name is Tina Marie. They went to Rick James's funeral. I talk about it in my special. That's crazy. Yeah, they're like about it, bro. And my mom says, oh, my Ricky Rick, my Ricky Rick.

And then I'm like, who you're talking about? Rick James, they would go. It was the Stone City band. You know, Rick James and the Stone City band, and they were all about it, bro. So it was mostly all that, you know,

just like Rick James, James Brown, school funk, you know, a lot of Mariachi sauce, all that stuff too, but mostly funk. Yeah. Yeah. And then, I mean, when you, you being younger,

was, I mean, LA rap scene was kind of crazy at that point. Oh, yeah. That was when the whole gangster rap thing started. It was in the 90s, bro. It was a wild time. But crazy time for music, too. Yeah, yeah.

That's when everything started popping. You know, NWA was in the news all the time. It was just like, Dad, these motherfuckers. These motherfucked police. And we're just like, that was just sick. Yeah, like, you wanted to scream, fuck the police too, but you kind of had to do it on the lobe. Yeah, yeah.

You couldn't be as loud with it. Yeah. But we were. We were just like fucking bumping that shit though, yeah. There was, I forgot what comedian was telling a story on a podcast of when, I guess Shug Knight and Dr. Dre used to go to the comedy store all the time. Yeah. And there was, I forgot the fucking comedian was just clowning on, the room was dark.

So he was just clowning on a group of black people in the corner. And then he popped. It became a huge comedian. And Dr. Dre had told him like, you know, that was us you were talking about. And I had to stop people from killing you that night. Oh, like, they was waiting outside the comedy store. were like for the second show, just waiting on you outside. Damn, bro.

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Because they've made it change. They're trying to compete with Netflix, it feels like. Yeah, they started a whole slate of stand-up special. So, you know, I did that. We did a show with them called This Four. We did two seasons of it. It was me and one of my best friends, Chris Estrada and then Michael Pirooli, who you know from the Sopranos.

Yep. It was us three. And that was a cool experience, man, because I was still getting my, I was still, my acting chops were still growing and Michael Pirioli was just about it. Bro, he was about running lines with me, while to eat together, just like giving me notes. He really helped me elevate my game as an actor, you know, so that was cool to do that. We did, we worked on that show for three years, you know, it was a good time. It took like four years to get it going, though.

But then, but yeah, and then all of a sudden, me and Ali Wong, who's a good friend of mine, we had started loosely talking about her directing or producing my first one-hour special. And she had produced and directed her first one was the homie Shang Wang, who did one called Sweet and Juicy on Netflix. And then I started doing some opening sets for her because she runs a two-man show.

You do half an hour you bring her up. And then we started workshopping. She started looking at my shit. And then, yeah, we started working on it, bro. And then it was kind of perfect timing because Hulu was like, yo, we're going to do this slate of stand-up specials. And so, you know, we brought it to Netflix and then brought to Hulu. Hulu came hard at it.

So we went with them. And it kind of makes sense to it. Kind of maybe have a built-in audience there because I already have a show there. But, but yeah. So, yeah, then we taped two shows in one night up in Portland at this place called Revolution Hall. Great city. Portland is a great city. Great.

Yeah, great city. Everybody's like, why did you do it in Portland? I'm like, bro, they're hungry for comedy out there. I've always done well there. Ticket sales have always been good there. And then so I was like, I held out for a year and then taped the special there. Ali Wong directed it. And then we tighten it up in post and we got into a good spot.

So, yeah, we're pumped on it home. 20 tickets for Antifa in Portland. It's a little different. A little different order. It's an TV and the crowd is on that side. What's the process like with pitching specials to different networks? I hear a lot of comedians always talk about like, hey, I went to Amazon, I went to Hulu, I went to Netflix.

But I've never really heard the process of what that's like. Are you just walking in with a copy and everyone just like awkwardly sits there and watches it and they decide? How does that work? Yeah, not usually you go like ahead of time. At the bare minimum, I think you want like an audio of at least 40 minutes of it. And then you could send that out to different things. I mean, everybody has, you know, different process.

But if they're already hip to you and into you, then, you know, it's a little easier that way. And then some commas just produce it on their own. You know, I think that probably the cheapest you can get it done for is probably like 100 racks. They get like a decent special, but it's going to usually cost a little more than that to get it like real tight. if you want like a five camera set up, the crane shot, which is a cool, cool, cool, shot. That's going to cost some money, you know. And then you can produce it yourself,

and then you go try to sell it after that. It's another angle. But yeah, Hulu was already, you know, they already been working with them for a while. So, and then, you know, once Ali Wong was attached, like, you know, she doesn't fuck around, man. She bought her business home. Yeah.

So she, it was kind of like, you know, a little easier to sell. We had 45 minutes of audio that they were listening to. And then they came and saw a live set of mine, Lou did. And they were like, all right, cool, let's do it. That would be awkward if they went to the live one and then we're like, let's reconsider what we said.

Hey, and you all eat ass, man. What's up? Yeah. Or they're the ugly person that got kicked back. Right. Like, no, I work for Luzu. Yeah. He's the president of Hulu.

Because in the music business, we have this thing called playbacks, which are the most awkward thing in the world where, whether it be like Apple, Spotify, Amazon, a bunch of people that you've never met before, you all get on Zoom. Yeah. And then you play your music for just a wall of strangers that have different internet connection and speakers. And everyone's head is beating at a different beat. And then you just stop and they go, some people have their mics on, some don't. Like, that's cool. And then you're like, all right, well, this is the next one. Yeah. And then you hit play. Okay. Here we go. The next one. Yeah. Fuck. It's the most awkward things. I wasn't sure if it was like comedians like would have to walk into an office. And they're like, well, hey, give us five minutes. Oh, fuck, man. Yeah, yeah, bro. Because that's, yeah, yeah.

The whole creative to business pitching thing to me is one of the hardest things. That's like a whole other skill you got to get good at. Is going into a pitch meeting and being like, all right, you know, you got to have your little whatever show, little tight set polished up to try to sell your shit. Yeah. Did Michael apparently give you any, like, Soprano stories or anything when he was on the set? What was some of the funniest stuff he talked about? Oh, man. I mean, he probably won't mind me saying too.

much but you know i can't say here it dude but it was like he's a podcaster now it's fine just yeah yeah i know right yeah but uh yeah i would think i say it was just like man all those award shows everything i don't remember none of it they were just like they were living that life bro just parting it up being uh it was cool for me to hear those stories though they just be up all night all of them going back to the set those sleeve and the makeup department be like all right they're they've been out again we got to work our magic and you know da da but but yeah it was uh i don't know man he was like yeah just it happened so fast and it was crazy because it was over 10 years they were working on it. You know, he's like, but he's like, I just learned so much. And then hearing how

even got the role, after the audition, he was like, I didn't think I got it. And he went well at all. Right. And it was like, all right, fuck, I moved to the next thing, whatever. And then all of a sudden, a couple of days later, he gets a call. They're like, you got it. And he's like, legendary role came with most iconic characters in TV history. Yeah. And then he just started. He's like, yeah, and then I just got dialed in. He's like, but yeah, he learned a lot from the OGs on there. And then he was just like, man, it was, he's like, I can't believe it was over a decade working on a show and it went back like that. It was like, yeah, it was kind of blurry, though, too,

because those motherfuckers were getting after it. Yeah, for sure. Part of getting it. Yeah. They were winning every award anyway, so they didn't need to remember. I'd like, if I'd keep it going. Which part of entertainment do you enjoy more? Do you enjoy doing your sketch, like, series, or do you enjoy, like, the stand-up part of it?

Yeah, well, you know, stand-up's my first love, you know, there's something. It's like we were talking about, you know, the high-pressure thing. So I got homies that are DJs and band shit like that. They have a little something, not like, I don't want to say hide behind, but they have something else they could direct their shit to with you and you in the mic. You get that immediate feedback to media. It's kind of dope to be able to, especially you get higher in your career and you get to be

a regular at these clubs. You could be working on something that day. Like, man, it's this shit funny. It's exciting to go fucking fuck and see if it works in front of this paid audience, you know? And then just, I like that roller coaster of it and just like, you know, you know what's going to happen. The star is going to line tonight or not. I don't know, man.

Let's just give it our best shot and do it. But, yeah, then through that, through action. I fell in love with acting too, man. I just fucking, I love that shit. You know, it's long days and early mornings, but it's a, it's dope, man. I just, I just love figuring out the facial expressions, the timing, you know what I'm saying? And just, there's so many moving parts. It looks easier than it, than it is, you know.

If you have a joke that bombs, do you completely get rid of it or do you try it in different rooms? Like, is that something that you do? Yeah. Well, if I believe in it, I'll give it another shot. But, like, you know, it's also fun. funny just a Beyonce, be like, ah, that was a new one, that shit didn't work. And people are, you know, it didn't. You know, just...

Yeah. But, like, you know, it's like... Because sometimes, man, you'll write... I'll write some shit, bro, and I'll be like, this shit's fucking funny. I'm laughing out loud to myself. And then I'll go and it's just crickets. Like that. And I'm like, oh, this is not how I pictured it, you know?

But usually that's few and far between. As a years go on, you know, you get better at knowing, like, okay, this is... Yeah, Frankie, like, I don't bomb. I don't know too much about the... We all got stories, you know, but yeah, I've seen the best of the best bomb before. So it was, yeah. Who is your one comedian idol or comic idol that you haven't met yet? That I haven't met, Eddie Murphy.

Yeah, I've been in the same building with him, but I never had to shake his hand or say what's up. But, yeah, I've been fortunate enough. I met a lot of them, most of them. But, yeah, I know Eddie's really not on the circuit anymore, so we don't see them out there like that. But goddamn, bro, raw and delirious. It's just like he was just on fire.

Just on fire. It's just another level. You'll never see anything like it. And the one thing about that people, you know, really don't realize about when Eddie did that was how young he was. 19, I think, on that? Yeah. First one. Yeah.

Something like that's. Yeah. That's insane when you think about it. Crazy, bro. Just like. Like that young to have still that iconic of a stand-up that every comedian after always points to like that was like. Yeah. And he was so.

Like you said, 19 years, that doesn't make any sense. Like, how did you do that? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He got back on the circuit for a little bit and he was going to, people were saying he's working on another special. And then he just stopped and I'm like, I understand why. You know, it's like, he's probably going to say, man, I already did that. Yeah, once he gets that, you know, getting to that Hollywood money.

Oh, man, it's crazy money. But like, yeah, Shepal I met a handful of times. He's always been really down to earth and cool to me, man. And he's just a master of his craft, you know, he just keeps, he's never going to stop. Yeah. He's going to do it until the wheels fall off, you know. If you stand outside long enough, you'll see Chris Rock today. Like, he's...

He just walks around... Like, just literally just walks around with his AirPods in and just walks his son. Yeah, I mean, he's actually a really good friends with Ali Wong. And so... Yeah, he's another cool, man. It's motivating to me. Dudes like that and they're just like, cool, you know? Just regular people.

They're not all like, I don't know you. You know, I understand. What's up, man? Not in a negative way, but what was the first comedian that you met that maybe you had a preconceived notion about that was drastically different or wrong. You thought he was going to be somebody and he ends up being like a really good person. Oh man.

I would say Bill Burr's one of them. Joey Diaz. I don't know if you know Joey. Of course he is. Yeah. You were saying Joey Diaz. Fucking cock suck him. That's just Jersey.

That's just Jersey, New York. You need to want something. That's the Jersey. It's not an asshole. That's a kind man from New Jersey. That's what that is. Absolutely. Yeah.

And Bill Burr is just just a. angry guy from Austin who are nice people as well. That's just their overall personality. Who wrote the scene where you gave Exhibit a corn dog maker? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we have a couple friends about my homie, Rob Borman, Kevin Kami, and my Filipino homie taught me how to write script way back when.

But yeah, yeah, I mostly wrote it. Well, drew that inspiration. You know what, I'm going to give Exhibit a corn dog maker. You know what, Joe. my ride. That had to come from Pimp my ride. Like that idea of... Just giving people useless things to put in their house or car. He's never going to use this.

He's never going to use this. It was funny too. We shot that sketch. We were at the hood actually. I was like, fuck, he'll probably be cool coming here. I'm thinking he's going to come with his entourage or come low, pro. This fool showed up solo and his Ferrari and shit. I was like, oh shit. Solo in his Ferrari.

He wasn't trying to be seen at all, but he shows up in a Ferrari. He wasn't trying to be seen. We're like, hey, back, we put This is in the video. It's like, yeah, man, it's all good. You know what? So we have this segment on our podcast where we do voicemails where our listeners will just call in, whether they have a story, they want advice, want to say some nonsense.

It goes off the rails a lot because our listeners are more psychotic than us, which is weird. But Josh, do we have one today? I think it would be fun to add it in with Frank here. Okay. My name is Seven. I live in Philly. I'm writing in about a situation that happened over this past weekend. I took a group trip to Vegas with my closest friend, my closest guy friend, my closest girlfriend, my closest girlfriend,

and then my guy friend brought one of his friends who I'd never met before. She definitely fucked him. Me and this friend ended up, like, hitting it off and being literally booed up the whole weekend. Like in the club, cuffed, like at brunch cuffed, at the day party cuffed, like, you know, spending the night together. And we got, we had an Airbnb, but like, stayed in each other's rooms. It was two days. And this was my first time having like a vacation boo. But I like him for real.

I don't know. I felt like he liked me, but is this something that just needed to stay on vacation? Or I guess, like, I don't know. Now that we're back from vacation, I'm writing this message on Friday. We left each other this past Monday, and we really haven't talked except on social media. Like, should I just assume that it should have been left on vacation? I don't know. Yeah, seven. Why she left out the most of the poor, did y'all fuck?

Yeah. Well, you know they did. I don't know. Within the first probably few hours, if a weekend trip you're already at the club, day party, brunch. She gave the whole itinerary. You're not standing in the same room. Like, you have to fuck within the first few hours to get to the rest of that itinerary

where you're holding somebody's hand. Right. And it was just a Vegas weekend trip, right? Yeah. So she's trying to figure out if it's to just leave it that where it was on Vegas. She's doing that thing that a lot of us do. We ask for advice of the answer we already know. Yeah.

Like, it's Friday. You know. She's in denial, bro. Yeah. Homie probably got a lady back in wherever they're from. Yeah, that was going to be the other thing I was going to say. It may not that he doesn't like you. He may just have a wife and kids at home.

Yeah, he got a family. But you were cool, though. We had a great time. Yeah, he had a great time. And you know the slogan. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. So that, that whole thing, we're going to leave that thing. Yeah, but I understand why she's like, damn, because she sounds like she likes him.

Like, damn, I thought he was cool. We really had a good time. Like, is that it? And like you said, she knows the answer. She knows that's it. She knows it's not. It was probably the brunch, holding hands at brunch. That's a big, like, oh, okay.

We're cupcake in a little bit. Yeah. Like, we're in public holding hands. Yeah. Come here. And now we're back home and we don't speak at all. Holding hands next to eggs is saying something. Like, if you're a little drunk at the day party, pool party shit, like,

All right, cool, whatever. But if you're so, like, you haven't even had a mimosa yet. And we're eating, like, fruit. No, that's, that's your boyfriend for the day. But I've been in this situation with a... I was about to say, I kind of had a similar situation like that. I've been on both sides of this before. Yeah.

I didn't realize how problematic it could be until I was on the other side of it when a friend of ours started fucking around with one of my friends. And then I ended up in the middle of the entire thing. Because he had a girl, which I even said, said it from the rip. Do what you want. I won't judge you. Yeah. But you're my friend. I'd be I'd be a bad friend if I didn't tell you what the situation was. And she went and was like, all right, fine, fuck it. I'll do it. And it backfired. And then I got, I got yelled at. Yeah. That's the fuck. That's your friend. And then he hit in me like,

yo, she's not going to say nothing, right? I'm like, leave me the fuck. Yeah. If your girl calling me, I've never even met you before. Like that shit gets messy. But it's fucked up because again, you know, if you meet somebody on vacation and y'all have a good time and you know, y'all hit it off. It's like, I can understand why now she's kind of like confused because it was like, damn, that energy was so, we really had a good time, a good few days with you. Yeah, but vacation is escaping from reality. You can just go be something else for a few days just to get away. And yeah, that also requires full-blown relationships for 48 hours. Yeah, shoddy, it might be a rap. Full-blown relationship.

There's nothing more fun than like the three-month talking to, but you really like that person. Like full-blown, we write into it right away last for three months and then it breaks off. That times 100 with the two-day relationships. Oh, they're beautiful. And he's probably like, yeah, you're cool, man. We had a good time, yeah. But that was it. He's definitely got another lady, bro.

He's not even in a text like, hey, what's up? Once brunch again, you know what? He's only hitting her on Instagram. That's the sick part. Your life is so crazy. He just got to. He got to give her some closure and just say, hey, if this was in a different lifetime. Right, right.

Yeah. Nah, you can't say that. Maybe in a different lifetime. A different lifetime is fucking crazy. The situation wasn't what it was. In a different lifetime? Yeah, man. Got to be poetic with that whole shit.

You can't tell somebody in a different, you know, in a different lifetime, we would have been something. I wish I would have met five years earlier. Imagine reading that a girl text of you, yo, in a different lifetime. You know, we could have been, we would have been a hide together. Yeah. Like, oh, shit. Okay. After we just had probably some great sex.

we had a great time. My mind is so warped. That made me like her more. Oh, this bitch is poetic. I just play hard to get it. I have to change the lifetime now. But no, you've definitely hit a chick with Dan, which we would have met five years earlier.

I mean, timing is important. I don't know if I said an exact deal of we would have met. But, you know, if I have a situation going on and I meet somebody and we hit it off, we have a good time, it's definitely a conversation of like, damn, but I can't leave my, I'm not leaving my girl. Like we got a great time, great vacation.

I've had dates or nights like the weekends like that. We're like, man, this is. But I always feel like there's an understanding on both sides. Like, we know what this is. This is just for right now. We enjoy this. Yeah, we having fun. But I've been on the other side too, where I was like, oh, shit.

You start liking the girl. So, yeah. Yeah. They don't hit me back. That was cool, though. Yeah. Has a chick ever told you like, all right, if my relationship doesn't work out, like, I'll let you know. Or if this.

Nah, don't tell me no. When, what? No, no, no, no. Because when a girl said that, no, when a girl said that to me, I'm like, all right, well, we might as well fuck now because that, you just cheated. If you read a text message where your girl told another guy and my relationship doesn't work out. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's cheating. It's not working out. Go ahead. Yeah. It's not working out at all. It's completely over. Like, you might as well fuck somebody if you say that to them. Because that's an insane thing.

That's like, you're just hoping to. That's putting the pussy on hold, like on ice. Like, that's like a sexual pre-nup to your relationship. Absolutely. 100%. I agree with that. if this doesn't work out. Yeah.

But, yeah, Seven, it's, that ain't it. Yeah, seven. It's over. Just let that man be with his family. You had a great time in Vegas. But yeah, Seven. Let that man be with his family. Yeah, we've all been there.

And Seven, I'd like a follow-up. I'd like to know what you asked your friend that introduced you. Oh, yeah. Because you know she has been harassing him for the whole week. Like, yeah, what's up with your man? He's not replying. You're not replying. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know with that. He's had a fucking. y'all yeah he's at a parent teacher conference i don't fucking know but anyways um this was great man thank thank you so much for stopping by the special is available right now on hulu

damn that's crazy which i feel like you may owe mall some royalties on um because mall did invent the phrase that's crazy that has been his trademark for 10 years but you know i'm happy you guys could collab on something but uh where can they find you um anything else that you want to plug you know we really really appreciate you uh come through I appreciate y'all having me, man. It's cool being here.

Yeah, but damn that's crazy on Hulu, October 10th, directed by the home girl, Ali Wong. And then if you check out a creeper's crib, live from my grandpa's garage, just on YouTube right now. And so, yeah, a little creeper got his own little thing going. But yeah, that's about it. And then Frankie Kinos.com for any upcoming dates in your city, hopefully.

Thank y'all for having me, man. Much good. Damn that's crazy on Hulu, October 10th. Frankie Kinos. We thank you, brother. We appreciate you for coming through. I appreciate your time. I'm that nigger. He's just judge it. That's Frankie Kino-nez.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.

84 was a wild. I mean, it was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-hosted the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, Football, soccer is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Ceno Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to bench, featuring powerful conversation with the guests like Tiffany, Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic.

Without this truth, I'm going to die. Listen to Cino's show on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed Human.