New Rory & MAL - Checking In With Gary Owen

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Legendary comedian Gary Owen checks in with Rory and Mal to talk how he cheated his way into Comic View, making the leap from standup comedy to the big screen, why he decided to get married again after a very public divorce #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The volume. All right, Rory. We are back with a new episode of New Rory and Mall. And today we are joined by a gentleman that I have been a legit fan of for years. You were a little young, Rory, when I first saw this gentleman on BET Comic View. When I saw that, he was automatically walked into our community.

He's been one of us ever since. Funny, funny guy, comedian, stand-up comedian and actor. And also a Navyman, so salute to him. He's a Navyman. He really supports the troops. Like, he's really into the troops. I'm really into the troops. I'm really into the troops.

Yeah. We are joined. It's actually a full-go Republican. Just to let you know, you're joking, but this guy is very much support the troops, back the blue. I'm American, man, what you want me to do? This is Gary Owen. No, S. Thank you.

Gary Owen. Clap for myself. But it's funny because you are Gary Owens, but you drop. You drop. Well, when you join the union, first movie I got, there was Gary Owens. He was the host of Laughing. Yes. And then they literally, I didn't know this.

They gave me a list of names to choose from. Right. And I was like, what is this? They go, well, once you're in the Screen Actors Guild, there can only be one of everything. Got you. I kept thinking, what's the easiest thing to do? Because they gave me like two R's, put my mental initial in there. Okay.

It was all this different range. I just dropped the S. It's easier. How did mom feel about that? Wait. How did dad feel about that? I thought it was actually just Gary Owen in the way that black people tend to pluralize like everything. Barns and Nobles. Trips.

Trips. Yeah, true. We love Mek Mills. Like, you guys just had Sists to everything. So I assume like your name was really Gary Owen. And then your audience just said. I just let this out the last year. Yeah.

I was on a pedestal like, yo or soapbox. Yeah. It's no S. Yeah. Stop. Meanwhile, the family is like, what's wrong with the guy? I'm trying. But I tried to keep everybody protected like that.

And then finally just came out. People started Google like, wait a minute. Yeah. Then my kids got in school. There's like, how's your dad? Yeah. And you're this. Yeah.

And then you start to figure out like John Stewart's real last name and think maybe. Jamie Fox. Yeah. Eric Bishop. Yeah. Tom Cruise. I'm guessing it's not Cruz. He could, I mean, he converted to Scientology.

So I'm sure it's definitely not Cruz. Hubbard or something is his last name. I think the best one was Charles Bronson. Yes. Where he literally went in. for an audition and it was on Bronson Avenue. And he was like, yeah, I'm just going to go with that. Yeah, yeah.

He's just like at the street. I was like this. Just glad I didn't pick Santa Monica from me, you know. They were a weird name. Well, how are you doing? In New York for the week, city winery that we were just discussing. Last time I saw you, you did not see me, but you did out bottle warmie in like 20. He loves telling the story.

15? Mm-hmm. I did what? You out bottle wared me. You had a bottle war and it was in a club, right? Yeah. Well, it was definitely a one-sided war. It was like when they invade a very small country and they can't fight back.

We were at the Anthony on Bleaker and there was only two tables that were upstairs and I was there already. Then you came. You were very gracious to everyone, very kind. But then I was just ordering from the bar for everybody. Then you started like having the fireworks show and then slowly all the people that I was with went to your table. Yeah. That's hysterical. And then I just boycott it and sat at my own table and just like, yo.

That's funny. My bad. No, I loved it because I had to stop buying drinks. Was it all dudes? You were very gracious. You let everyone I was with have drinks from the bottles. Were they black? Yeah.

It's hard when the black guys start coming. You're like, you really don't want them to take over your sex to them. You're like, oh, no, I was only with women. I was with, only with black women. Okay, that makes that. Yeah. That's the Gary's, oh, yeah, yeah. Come on over. Let's party.

Yeah. Sure. Come on. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Started pulling up YouTube showing views. Yeah, I was like, I mean, I can't win now. There's nothing worse, though, than like going out and just do just overrun your area.

Oh, God. So I remember I was in St. Louis and I was on one of them shows. There was like five of us and Tony Rock was on the show. Okay. And we went to this party. And Tony said, hey, stop by. All right. So I go with two of my buddies and Tony Sections literally got like four guys and four

girls at this point. And I come in now that's seven guys. If I said, guys, we got to go. Yeah. And he's like, what are you talking about? I go, we just mess up the entire odds here. Yeah. And I looked at all four dudes faces.

And they didn't have to say nothing. Right. I knew what they was thinking. Like, yo, you just messed up the entire ratio. We don't know who we're trying to talk to. Right. We don't know what's going on. So I was like, yeah, we got a dip.

Yeah. This is not a good look. right now. So Gary, we, well, I'm a little older than everybody else in the room, but I remember seeing you for the first time on BET Comic View. Take us back, because I know you started in San Diego, comedy. You were in the Navy. And what was the, what was the move like in California? Like, did you fall in love with comedy while you were in California? Was this something that you always thought about doing? No, I always wanted to do it. Okay. From high school. I was in sixth grade. in the first day of school, I was talking

when the gym teacher was talking, and then he goes, you know, he goes, hey, he'd be quiet. He goes, what are you going to be a comedian or something? And I was like, yeah. And he goes,

well, okay, not in my class. Right, right. And he still tells the story this day of how he was the one. That I was,

the spark happened in sixth grade with Gary Owen. He goes, he had almost backtrack like, well, not my class. They didn't want to crush my dreams and everything. That's the beginning of juicy for Gary.

All the teachers that didn't want me to succeed. They all down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. But I don't know. I just always knew I was going to do it. I didn't know how. I lived in a trailer park in Ohio.

I didn't know how do you become a stand-up? But I always, and people I grew up with who will tell you, I was like, I used to tell me, I'm going to be a stand-up. I'm going to be a stand-up. Yeah. I don't know how, but I'm going to do it. But how does that, because you can say it, but then when it's actually time to go to a comedy club or into a competition,

get on stage, like, as somebody that's never done that before, Or like, how do you prepare for that moment? You think you're going to get discovered. At least I did. Okay. The first time I got on stage of the commerce store in La Jolla, which was the open mic night, I remember I was in a mirror. I got dressed.

I don't know why. I thought I was going to be like Eddie Murphy delirious that night. A lot of leather. I was like this. Oh, yeah. They're going to see this. Where have you been? Yeah.

Where have you been? The void we've been needing to fill. Yeah. They're going to say they're getting ready. Yeah. I just remember I got there like, like, it's. If the show was at eight, I got there like seven. Okay.

And I just sat in the back and I just started watching people come in, right? I think I was 11th of 12 or maybe 12th of the open micers at night. So just as fast as I saw the people come in, I also saw them leaving. Right. So then by the time I got on stage, it was probably 10 people in the audience. You know, the comedy store in the Hoyle is only 250 people maybe. So it wasn't sold out, but they just kept leaving. I think there was more comics in the back than the actual audience.

It was like, oh, this isn't what I envisioned. Right. And then, you know, didn't go that great. But I was like, okay, I can do this. Yeah. I think I can do it. But you said, I read that you, when you performed in front of a majority black audience, a lot of your jokes landed that you would use in other places.

And you was like, oh, okay, this room, like they get it. They understand my type of humor. My type of concept. I cheated, too, because I was young. I was in like, I was like, 20-21, I came out dancing and I had some hip-hop music playing. Okay. And if you had a little rhythm as a white guy, we love you. Once the black woman, I'm like, that video of that guy on the boat singing Keith Sweat.

Yeah. You see that one? I want to say. He can't really sing. Right. If you really listen, but he hit that first note. Yeah. And they went, oh.

He's in. We love him. That's what I did. And I go, oh, I kind of had a cheek coat a little bit. Yeah. And then I remember it was always Destiny's child. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because they had like a little slow intro to the beat kicked in. So I'd walk out real slow. And then I started doing some fucking shit with gyrating and shit. And they're like, ah! Like, I was cheating. Straight up. cheating. All right.

But I got them on my side. La Jolla, I think that'd be fine. How would that work at the Apollo? I didn't Apollo. I didn't know. The Hawaii was, I couldn't do it in La Jolla because. It was mostly. They don't have a sound system.

They still don't. Yeah. Or have the Destiny's silent CD. Yeah, they don't have that. That's crazy. No, the Loyal Comedy store, because I did it like three years ago, almost like nostalgic. I'm going to go back to where to start it. Yeah.

So I did a weekend there. It's the same. They got a little guy piano. Yeah. Like, oh, and one of my opener's lost it because he got like four music cues. Oh, my God. His show was shot. I told you, I tell all my guys, don't use all their music crews.

You can't rely on them. And they don't translate the TV. Right. He was like, yo. they ain't got nothing. You got to come out cold. I go, well, welcome to stand up, bro. Yeah, that's crazy, though.

Walking out and no music, no nothing. Play Destiny's Child off the phone. Yeah. But it's right to the mic like this to walk out. Yeah, yeah, right? So you leave San Diego, and how does comic view happen? I won a contest to San Diego.

They said, we're looking for the funniest black comedian, San Diego. So I called in, didn't say I was white or black. I just called in. And got on, won the contest. The first prize was an audition for Comic View. So do you guys remember DeMilatant? He was a producer and he was also a comedian on comedy.

He passed away a few years ago. Yes, I do remember him. He was one of the judges of the contest. And then he got me auditioned. So I drove to L.A., auditioned. And then I got on Comic View. Before you get there, though, did the casting person get fired once you showed up? For the contest in San Diego?

They're looking for the black comedian and then you showed up. Did anyone go to casting? Like, hey. Well, it's San Diego. Yeah. It's not Brooklyn. Yeah. Let's bring it down.

It's Tony Gwynne. Nature own means. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a lot of gangsters in San Diego at the time. I think Nick Kanna was in it. He just started with 17. Mm-hmm.

So I won it. And it sounds cocky. I won by a landslide. Okay. Like, it was a bad competition. Do you remember Nick's jokes? Nick was rapid. He wasn't even telling jokes.

He was in a rap group called DeBomb. squad with another guy. And I always say, what happened to that guy? Because that's Brian Duckleman from American Idol. Nick went on to be Ryan Seacrest. Brian Dunkleman, where's he at? Yeah. That was the other guy.

I know there's literally the guy in standing there. I used to be in a rap group with Nick, you know? He was rapping. He wasn't doing stand up yet. He was like the musical guest. How many rap groups do you think were named that in the 90s? The bomb squad? Yeah.

Or at least 30. D.A. Yeah. Gotta be D. Dumb. Bomb squad. Yeah. Absolutely.

But shout out to Nick Cannon. He's doing great now. Yeah, he's doing okay. He did okay for himself. Yeah. Mariah Carey's, I feel for him. Mom, like.

Yeah, he's struggling. Yeah, he did. You know what I mean? Were you inviting some of like your platoon out? Like, where the seals? Always. Were the seals there? Dude, when I first started going to L.A.,

well, I won the contest, got on Comic View and the rest of history, so speak. The rest is history. Yeah, but I would start going to L.A. And I'm open mic and around L.A. and stuff, I'd always, I'd always have to drive. Like, I'd get on. off work at like four in the Navy.

I might have like a 10 p.m. spot in L.A. It's two, two and a half hour drive. So I'd always try to get guys to go with me. I go and I'd lie. I'm like, yo, last time I went up there, I saw Jim Carrey. What? You know, I saw, I saw Vivica Fox. I saw Will Smith.

And we're looking at the late 90s now, right? Yeah. So they're like, what? And every time we go, we wouldn't see anybody. He's like, where they had? I go, I guess they were shooting something. Yeah. It was here last time.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I'd be lying. Jim had told me he was working. on a movie. That's why he's not here. Yeah, dude, I was like, I was lying. Because, you know, we might not be on Sunset. I might have a spot, you know, south of Figueroa. Right. Nobody there's a crazy part. At that time, they were nobody. If any of those military guys was the comeback now, they did see Kevin Hart. They did see Cat Williams, but no idea who they were back

then. Back then, yes. So in a way, I did expose them to like, a little celebrities. Yeah, absolutely. But they weren't at the time. So, yeah, I'd always lie to my guys, because, Because, you know, you make that drive, man. Sometimes you get over at 4, 4.30, you're hitting rush hour. You're not getting to L.A. to 738. And you're just grabbing something to eat that you're doing your five, 10-minute spot. And you're usually hanging out for a little bit afterwards talking in comics. And then you're driving back.

Because I remember there was a Kmart in Dana Point, which is about halfway from San Diego to L.A. And I used to park there and take a nap sometimes if I couldn't make it. And then, but if I had somebody ride with me, you know, we could switch off. And then the guys would come back. And then I tell somebody they tell a few people, he's lying. I see nobody. And then I get somebody else that didn't talk to them. No, no.

No, no. They're going to be there tonight. Yeah. Tonight is straight up. Yeah. I don't know the full Navy history. Now I think about Ohio to the Navy to entertainment. You may be the white Antoine Fisher now that I really think about.

Now that I think about the entire situation. I'm trailer park. Yeah. He was the hood. Yeah. Well, the trailer park is the hood. Without the gun violence. Right.

We shoot ourselves. We don't shoot. other people. We are quick to do suicide, but we don't shoot other people. We'll show other people up with heroin. Yeah, yeah. But we're not using the guns. But I mean, that's to numb so they don't kill himself. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's suicide prevention. I remember when I was growing up in the trailer, two things that was funny. One, I went across street to the trailer and they had a catfish in their bathtub. And I thought that was the coolest thing. So I realized, how they get in baths or showers? They only got one bathroom. But I was like, those are catfish. I didn't know. I'm going to tell my mom, they're a catfish.

Fishing her bathtub. And it's just swimming, having the time of its life for probably the five hours that's got left to live. It was dinner time. Yeah. Well, I'm not even dinner. They just don't know how you can't survive in a bad tub of water. No.

And then the one guy tried to commit suicide, like two trailers down, and he missed. So he went here and the bullet went here. So I just remember waking up and you see the ambulances coming down and everything. And I just remember thinking to myself, double loser. Yeah. And you got to think like, you know. When you're suicidal, you feel very worthless about yourself and like, I can't even, I can't even kill myself. Yeah.

And you live in a trailer. You're going to make me more suicidal. You couldn't do it. And now you're coming back. And we're seeing the bandage. We're seeing it all. I'm like, then you guys start lying like, ah, I stumbled over the gun. I tripped on.

It was dark. I couldn't see it. I recently went to a trailer park in Baton Rouge. And I was, I'm aware of people like accidentally overdosing and dying off fentanyl. they think it's something else. They were like actively offering fentanyl like they were handing me a bud light to that degree. Like you want some, you want some,

what? Yeah. Some fentanyl. I was, no, I'm cool. Oh my God. I understand that if it gets put in a batch and you don't know, you want to go do some

cocoa or whatever. Like, yeah, but they're just like, no, no, it's just straight up fent. If you want some.

I'm like, wait, don't know if you have like a touch of that you die? Yeah. That is it. Yeah. I'm like this. Oh yeah, that Bat Rouge show.

Can't top that? Ohio Trailport, you just top. We're good. The other guy that always wants to top every story. No, no, no, no. I got one better. I wasn't bragging. First of all, a 35 years old with a tiny bit of money.

I shouldn't be in a Baton Rouge. How did you get there? Listen, man, sometimes you fall asleep in the car in New Orleans and you wake up in Baton Rouge. Hmm. Okay. It must have been something good. That's what I'm saying. That's all it was.

That guy's crazy. Yeah, absolutely. Balls met her. I did meet her, beautiful young lady. But just knows a lot of people that have fed them. So the way they just shoot guns for, like, not even the range. Just in the trailer park, we're just going to shoot a tree that's over there. But Baton Rouge is like South for real.

Like, that's the country. Yeah, that's South. Oh, you take LSU out of there. It's Mississippi. Okay. So I was just being the fucking northeast, ignorant guy to the same. south and I didn't falsely. I knew I was going to Baton Rouge. I'm thinking I

really want to see like LSU and this is going to be amazing. Take you by the stadium it was. No. That's not the town. That's not the town you go sightseeing and then. They were New Orleans. She was like, you want to see where young boys from? I said fuck no. I love New Orleans though. No, no. No, I'm incredible.

Baddollins. Certain parts, but everybody should see you got certain parts. Yeah. You make one wrong turn. Oh, yeah. That's the only place I got followed openly was New Orleans. So you mean he followed you. Dude, they were straight up trying to get me. I was like, this is so obvious. Like I was, because I shot a movie there, like 2006.

So I was there for like two and a half months. And I remember I had this little outdoor spot right off bird, and I used to go eat all the time. And I'm looking, there's two brothers. I'm sorry, they were black. Yeah. They're just sitting across. And it's clear through like kind of talking about me.

I'm going, huh. They're fans. Nah. It wasn't that tight. It wasn't that. I'm not. So then I leave and it's the middle of the day. I'm walking down bourbon and literally

it was almost like the guy hit the other guy. And they're just a good distance for me but clearly I'd go into a store. They'd sit outside. I was like, they're freaking fucking, they're waiting for me to be alone. Right. Man, I went into a CVS.

I swear to God, I was there for an hour and a half. Waiting. I read every men's health magazine. There was. I was like, I got ripped. They're a lot. too. That guy's pretty ripped. Are they good to leave? And they're just stayed outside of CVS.

Looking at the ingredients of Dayquil. It's going, this was so obvious. At what point, though, Gary, in that moment does like the Navy and you kick in, though? It did.

I noticed it. If I wanted to notice. But I'm not to combat. Like, all, y'all, y'all want this. Like, all, no, navies, we're not like that. We're not Marines, let's slow it down a little bit. All right.

There's no water. He was not a seal. Yeah, Gary needed water. We're the seal. When the seal showed up to the San Diego bar is like when he showed up to the bar with me. Like you're taking over the room. I hang out with seals.

I'm not a seal. I can hang on Floyd Mayweather. I'm not Floyd Mayweather. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it was so obvious. But it's weird because you become our, the Karen and you. Yeah.

You're like, you hear so much about white Karen. I don't want to tell the cops. Yeah, I don't want to call the cops. Because I'm thinking this might be if it isn't, but I know it is. Right. But I'm going, dang, it's a weird thing that the white gil really. kicked in at that moment. I was like this.

You know what I mean? So reading every Mid-Shealth magazine. They finally just said, all right, let's go to somebody else. He's taking too long. That's boda off-urban? Yeah.

It was so obvious. Like, this was not me just making it up. Yeah. Every place I ducked into, they just kind of sat. Yeah. And I was like,

damn, did they think I'm that oblivious? Yeah. And they kept a good distance. Yeah. It was, it was, it was beyond obvious.

beyond obvious though. I was like, yeah. But other than that, New Orleans is a beautiful city. Well, how did it end? They just left.

They just left. They stopped, they stop waiting for me. Like, oh, you know what? I'm finally in my hotel. And a bad part about,

I was at this, I was at this hotel called the Pierre Marquette. And it kind of sat out of the cut. And you kind of go down one of them side streets to get to it. Even though it's right and off canal and bourbon,

it is off a side street. So I was like, if they're going to eventually get to me if went to my hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah. I do. I was at a brisk walk, almost jog.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Getting back. Soon when you started crashed, he was like, yes, I'm back. But I like New Orleans. Like that just happened. New Orleans is beautiful. I love New Orleans. It's one of my favorite cities for still.

It's one of the only cities I feel like you're not in the United States. Out of every U.S. city, it's the only one that doesn't feel like you're in the U.S. I mean, I guess Miami, but. Yeah, Miami, yeah. But to me, it's always just New Orleans looks way different than anything else. So, so Gary, you make the transition from comedy to now. acting. What was that

like your first, what was your first TV row? First movie was held up with Jamie Fox. Fox got me the audition. I think that's a classic movie. Yeah, it didn't do well at the box office. That's okay. We don't care about that.

They messed the marketing up for that movie, though, because when they shot it, you know, Jamie was cool. He was Jamie Fox show. Yeah. And like literally the, I'm talking the week after we got back from rapping, because I was kind of hanging with Jamie a lot back then. Yeah.

He got the audition for any given Sunday. And what I remember was at his house and he was like, yo, he came in for an agent, the part Dwayne Martin played, I believe. Okay. So he goes, yo, I went in and he was talking about Oliver Stone. He was kind of like, kind of, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he wasn't, he was pushing him to his limits, Jamie in the audition, which, you know, I think every genius has a bit of crazy in him. Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know what, what was up with that dude. and then Diddy obviously didn't get they couldn't throw the football is what what I've always heard from everybody did he was supposed to be Willie Beeman yeah I didn't know that I never knew that yeah he couldn't he was unathletic yeah yeah couldn't throw the ball too much oil maybe you know what I mean though Jamie when he was steaming Willie Beeman was oiled up in that music video that he did yeah he was ripped up yeah yeah and so all of a sudden he yeah we're about to shoot this video man we're going to this music video man we're going to this music video video where I say I'm Stephen Willie Beeman. I got the ladies creaming. Yeah. Type deal. You know, I'm just there. That's a good idea. I don't know what's a good idea or not.

Also, he gets. Great record though. Yeah. He gets the part. They hold held up until any given Sunday comes out. Oh. So that movie took about two and a half years to drop. Yeah.

After we shot it. Yeah. Because they was like, now Jamie got, we think Jamie's about to go and he did. Mm-hmm. But this movie didn't. I think they were. It held up. It was a good movie, though.

Like, it was funny. But what it came out in a timely fashion? I think it would have it better. Yeah. Okay, I feel like. You're comparing it to an Oliver Stone budget. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, to me, a classic, classic movie any given Sunday.

Yeah. Yeah, I would be pissed if that shit came out after. But what was it? What was it? That was my first. Held up was the first one. Was it a huge, you know, from being on stage because we talk to comedians a lot and, you know, going to comedy shows. To me, a stand-up comic is probably one of the,

toughest jobs in entertainment. That's crazy to me because I find it so easy. But how, because you don't know, when you go on a stage, you don't know who's going to be in the audience. And a lot of stand-up comics, especially you, you play off of the audience, the energy, who's in the audience, you have banter back and fall for people in the audience. If it's not that, though, for a stand-up comic, you only have your material to kind of fall back on. That has to be a tough spot versus acting. You have lines. cues other people to feed off of on set. Like a stand-up comic is just you to Mike in the spotlight.

Yeah. I find acting much harder than stand-up. Explain. Why? It's not your words. You got to memorize stuff. And then you're putting a lot of probably undue pressure on yourself because you want to, you want to deliver.

Yeah. You don't know what the director, the producer's vision is of this character. You're bringing what you think. Right. You think is right. Right. And so. and you know I just find acting way if you're going to ask me what's harder I'm not going to say oh my I'm not like doing back break and work here right but if you're going to ask me what is more challenging acting over stand up for for me right if you ask like anybody else that's been active for a long time I'm sure they're going to be like standout's much harder but for me standup is just like nothing that's crazy I mean I think it's the string just I'm just

art form ever. Like the fact that people can sell out arenas with literally just a microphone, there's no backup dancers, there's no hit song that everyone wants to hear. Like everyone's sitting to wait to hear for that hit song is to me the most challenging shit ever. And you can come out in cargo pants and a black t-shirt. Yeah,

which is also hilarious too. Wardrobe. Yeah. Like you go to hard rock and you see like this is, this was Prince. He wore this. Diana Ross wore this. And you see Shane Gillis.

Shane Gills wore this black t-shirt these Levi's. There's no fashion since I literally I'll watch some specials. I go, oh, he didn't get a fuck. Yeah, yeah. He literally, like black comics being in the black comedy world and then mainstream,

you have your mainstream friends too, which are mostly white, but now you've got Latinos and everything else. But I'm like, boy, the black comics put a lot on that wardrobe. Oh, yeah. Man. Gotta look good. Got to get me.

I'm about their specials. Yeah. I'd be like, oh. But I think a lot of that is Eddie Murphy, though. Yeah. He did the leather. I think that kind of set the precedence of when you have your stand-up moment, like this is your special.

You got to come out here and just look like. It has to be a moment. Like, as soon as they see you, what are you wearing? The funniest thing was Aziz wearing amazing suits for like a decade. And then they did that bullshit to him. And then he showed up in a hoodie. It was like, I think I'm cool, man. I'm not dressing up for y'all anymore.

Look what the fuck y'all did to me. Or he got some pel is wearing the zip-up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just like a painter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Working at changing the oil on somebody's thing. I mean, Louis C.K. has done the garden for 20 years wearing probably the same black t-shirt. Yeah. Same exact black t-shirt. I get Louis C.K. specials mixed up sometimes with clips because he's been wearing the same t-shirt and jeans for every single special. Yeah. But I know my last special, the one, O&O S. It's funny because I had another one come out eight months ago called Broken Family. Yeah.

how that hat i got the same outfit on in both specials by the way and the same backdrop because it's the same venue well we shot friday and friday i just remember friday saturday morning i woke up and having coffee with my manager and i go i think another hour we we got it last night right we're good did we check the gate and she called the guys like yeah we're good and i go i think i'm going to do a different hour tonight let's let's try it and then she was like all right well i didn't prepare for another hour as far as wardrobe-wise. I literally like, oh, I bought two of the same pair of jeans, two of the same pair of shirts and everything,

because I was like, I didn't know. Yeah. So it's funny because I could literally splice two hours together and have a two-hour special basically now. That's crazy. It's the same. Everything's the same. I was very much confused when I went to your YouTube page of 90 days till the new special,

and it was the same as at the old ones. So I was like, wait, all right, is this the deluxe album? Like, I didn't know. It was very confused. I was like very confused of the entire thing. Okay. That's why. I knew I wasn't.

I was like maybe it's a different denim shirt. You got a two for one out of it. Yeah. You know? So, well, did you misplace the shirts and jeans? Like you were good to go?

No, it's good. Because you always buy it when you're doing a special. At least I always do. I buy the same outfit because you don't know you might sweat. Yeah. Something might happen. So you just,

you bring an extra. Right. Just in case. So I had bought the same shirt twice and the same jeans twice. So I was just like, oh, all right. What do you think about? the tropes that people say, they say

like your comedy, it panders to the black audience. Who says that? Well, it's been a thing for years. People like, oh, Gary on his comedy, he just, you know, he makes black jokes and he tries to get it. And I'm just like that's part of comedy though. Every stand-up you talk about your life. Right. My inner circle just

there's a lot of black people in it. You know, I got mixed kids. Yeah. I can't talk about having white kids. I don't have them. I don't get it. You know what I mean? I think it's just, it's easy. Right.

It's this kind of low-hanging fruit. But you've heard that before, I'm sure. Never in person. In the internet, yes. Yeah, okay. Nobody's ever come up to me in person and said that. No, no, no, because, I mean, your fans are your fans. They love you.

They don't look at it like that. But there's a thing about Gary Owen comedy. But like you said, if you... If you... You hosted Comic View. Yeah. Dude, I would have hosted Telemundo if I knew Spanish. Right, right.

You know what I mean? Like, I was just trying to get on TV. Right, right. I just won that contest and I got on. I was, I was like about, dude, I was, I was a finalist for the real world before I did comic. Which city? Which city? Boston, 96.

You have to walk us through this entire process. Because you are, you tricked the casting director for the best black comic in San Diego. Please explain the casting experience with real world. I didn't get on it. I know, but it was, but it was still a casting experience. So this was before. internet. Yeah. So this is where you're watching the real world and they tell you. Yeah. That cat. No, no, that's Seattle. That's Seattle. Yeah. The same. The Boston cast. Yeah. Okay. So here's the funny

story about that. There's Cyrus on that. Okay. Cyrus. Here's the funny story about that Boston cast. Prince to the right. So I, um, they tell you, um, when the real world was ending, whatever season was before that. Uh-huh. Next season. And they give you like an address. If you want to, to, you know, write this or send in a tape or something, right? We're casting for next season's real world. That's how it was done back then. Yeah. Shoot, I'm writing it down, right?

Okay, right? You write a letter. I wrote a letter of why I should be on it. Then you send a VHS tape in. I said, my buddy worked at this place called Good Guys. And I sat, he put like literally 100 TVs behind me. So in my audition tape, everything was timed by 100. Yeah.

So I'm going, hi, I'm Gary. I really want to be on the real world. They was like, he's on assy. Like Max Hendon back in the day. So then they, they, first they, they responded to the letter and said, yeah, could you put yourself on tape? Uh-huh. So then I put myself on tape. Then I got another letter with a phone number to it.

I called the phone number and they said, come up. We'd like to interview you. Uh-huh. So I came up. And then there was like, God, there was probably 40, 40 guys in the lobby. I'm sure there was more. But I went in, did the interview and didn't get on. I just remember the one question.

They go, in your world, what's the perfect house for the world world? I go, me and six black chicks. That's probably what didn't get me the part. It would have numbers. I was like this, me and six black chicks. You are pitching the Shepel Shepel. sketch before the Shabelle show sketch. I remember I said chicks and everything, me and six black chicks.

I looked around and it was all white ladies. I go, oh, this ain't going over. So this is what I remember about that season. So of course, I never heard anything after that, right? Yeah, yeah. They don't tell you no. It's just radio silent. So when the season start, of course, I'm watching it with vested interest.

I want to see who got on. I remember seeing Cyrus. That's the one I remember seeing, right? Yeah. So here's this funny. Cyrager just on there. He likes white girls. I went, ah.

It was honest a direction. The black girl was from Stanford. She didn't agree with antiracial dating. She ended up sleeping with a white dude when they went away on their, remember every year they went away for a week? Yeah. Yeah. She slept with a white dude on their little getaway.

And I go, I was supposed to sleep with her. Yeah. I was supposed to sleep with that black girl from Stanford. He just took my kid a kick. If you just would have flopped you in, it would have been the same. thing. Yeah, I was like that. Because that's all she was looking for.

It was just, you know. Me and Cyrus could have hung out at bars. Yeah, definitely. I never stepped on toes. I would have slept with her. Who knows? But my life turned out right. The real world is one of we.

And it was funny because we just spoke about this. What? Maybe two weeks ago. I bought up the real world. They don't really remember. And I'm like, yo, the real world. No, not the years you remember. The latter years.

I remember the first like the first year in New York when they had Heather B was on there. Like I told you. She was on the real world. But that's funny. I never knew Gary Owen auditioned audition for the real world. I knew I knew I had like less than a year left than the Navy. Okay.

And I was preparing myself to get out. And I was just like, I'm just going to go for it. And listen, if I would have got casted, I don't know if I would have been out of the Navy yet. I didn't think that far ahead. I just leave. You'd be in Germany right now. I just leave. I just go up.

Yeah. You know, but everything I was doing was getting ready to get out. So, no, I was, I probably was doing a stand up a little bit. But I think that was 96. No. I'm doing stand-up yet. No. 96.

Wow. That just sounds like a lifetime. I mean, I feel like Boston 96 or 97? 97. So it was 97. So I was just starting. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, they turned your idea into think like a man. Yeah. Just you and. Look at that. That's pretty much what they were doing. I just remember that white ladies. That is fucking like, yeah, this ain't on.

I wonder if I'm like, um, like, still have. that casting tape somewhere. I'm sure they do. They went. Yeah. He, this is cable TV. Things are changing.

I'm going to go for it. It's going to go really well or really bad. Yeah, yeah. Clearly it went really bad. It went really bad. Absolutely. I see you have a wedding ring on. I have not,

I mean, I kept up with the earlier stuff. The divorce. The earlier material. Yeah. You were pretty much like my, my takee when you were. on the run to not get served papers. Facts.

Facts. What made you want to get married again? Huh? What made you want to get married again? Prine up? Nice. Because these things make me nervous and break out and hive. So I'm very curious after watching that entire thing and rooting for you, I just going right back in the mix is a little terrifying. No, you guys got winning the divorce.

Not in real time. It was over long before. That's usually how relationships go. Yeah. You guys got wind of it late. That ship had sailed years before. So it was like, to me, it wasn't like jumping in immediately. Like, this has been dead and gone.

Yeah. You know? It wasn't like that. When like, emotionally you're not ready. I go, dude, it had been over for years. Yes. Yeah. I mean, what's that preying up conversation like the second time?

Like, hey, look at all the evidence on the internet. Look at the proof of concept. Yep. Yeah. Well, every, I think everybody, when you have that conversation, it's, it's not easy. Of course, the women, the woman is going to say, it's not like you're preparing for a divorce, another divorce. Right. The men's going to say, prove to me, you love me for me.

It's not about the money. And you just, but pre-nup isn't always about. What was the conversation? Yeah. I don't think. Just like, look, if this don't work out, we always say you need a lawyer to get divorced, but not to get married. Right. I don't want to go through this again.

Let's just be realistic. If it doesn't work out, this is what you're getting. It's not like I'm saying you get nothing. Right. I'm saying this is what I'm willing to share with you. And listen, I am not a vindictive. I'm not an evil person. I would never to be with somebody, just leave them high and dry.

You know, I'm not going to do that. Do you think those two guys in New Orleans maybe trains you to get away from the guy trying to serve papers? It could have helped. Yeah. Do you think I was good at always looking? I was good at avoiding getting divorced for a long time. That's what I'm saying. I told me the man was over.

We were following that. It's like it was on some map question. It was like, so Gary's in Virginia, then he was in Ohio. We were following that like you would not believe. That was, I'm serious.

Dude, the stories I got avoiding a process server. I mean, to being in West Virginia, laying low, I was at my buddy's house for two weeks. I was at the four six. seasons and Baltimore for two weeks.

And I just said, just give me a balcony because I couldn't leave, but I had to get outside somehow. Yeah. I said, I just got to step outside. So I could step outside. And then I'm, all I'm doing is Uber eating. And I had close friends sending me care packages. But I was under Mohammed Shabazz.

So I figured nobody would look for Gary Owen there until I would order breakfast. And he goes, he wants begging an egg. What about? Yeah. Shabazz. What is going on? She should be turkey bacon. Let's make sure that she should be Shabazz Mohammed.

You're dyslexic Muslim and you're eating bacon. Everything's backwards here. But I do remember like I'd be on the road, right? So she had a little leg up because my schedule's printed. And I had to get bug on the road. I was going crazy. I told my age, I told my lawyer my age, I get back on the road. And my lawyer was like, I wouldn't recommend it.

I said, do you want to get paid? Right. Because, you know, I can't go three months without working here. So we were always very careful on the road. and I just remember my opener was having the time of his life because he was in the hotel I was supposed to be at. So he had the suite under Gary Owen

and we did it on purpose in case they were trying to find me. And put you in the motel six. I hope you never get third. He was sending me videos. He was in the robe. He was lazy. Dude, this is the life. He was me for like three, four months.

When I got served, I just remember, he went, ah, fuck. I go, yeah, it's over, bro. Yeah.

You're back to a single room, single king. Meanwhile, he's in the red roof. He's a trailer park in Baton Rouge. Oh my gosh.

He's around the fence. Even in Baltimore, I was at the four seasons graded up, but he was at like the Renaissance. Oh, man. He was like, bro. In Baltimore?

The sweet. Because they were in the inner harbor. Yeah. It like, I know the sweet he was talking about it. It's like they got this wrap around hallway and big. Yeah. Dude,

he goes, bro. Yeah. He goes, I got I got to become a headliner. So I hope this motivates you. So BET just announced that they canceled the hip hop awards and the Soul Train Awards. As an honorary member of the black community, Gary, how does that make you feel knowing that the Soul Train Awards is no longer a part of the BET production?

I think we stopped watching it years ago. We did. I think this ship has sailed. That's why they canceled it. Yeah, the ship has sailed. I mean, everything comes to an end. Yeah. Maybe not the Oscars.

But I don't know, we're not watching that like we used to. Right. It keeps getting less. We're at a different age right now. I just think it's great to talk about it on your podcast. Yeah. Nobody next year is going to be like, dang. We missed the Soul Train award.

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, once the hip hop awards stopped doing the Cyphers, which was the only reason we watched when it was popular, it was like, what's the point here? And once the Soul Train Awards just started giving the same awards to people that were getting the regular BET Awards, VMAs and Grammys. It was like, what's the point here?

the point of the Soul Train Awards. Like, when you just go watch something, you're giving the awards to the same people that are winning the Grammys. And let's be honest, the editing was pretty bad on some of them. Oh, my God. There was no iconic moments like the Motown 25 of Michael Jackson, Moonwalk, or when James Brown came out, you know, it was just like, you know, no always watching anymore.

You're literally watching it going, they would just, I remember the editing. I was like, who's editing this? Yeah, it started to look really bad. Yeah. And then you didn't know what network it was on anymore. Like it would be on TV1. Yeah. TV one.

Just moving it around. What is this on? TV. I just think it's time. I just think it's time. Yeah. It was time. So we got it to it.

Me and Rory got into a kind of debate last year because Rory said and because you're a legend in the comedy world. Rory feels like Chris Rock isn't an A-list celebrity. A-lis comedian. He said he feels like he's an A-list comedian. but he doesn't feel like Chris Rock is an A-list celebrity. To which I responded to where I said, Rory,

I don't think you can host the Oscars without being an A-List celebrity. That's a good question. Maybe A-minus? I thought B, and I don't think B is a bad... I don't think it's an insult to say you're a B-List celebrity. Because to me, A-list... Because you said Tom Cruise...

Is Tom Cruise and Chris Rock in the same sentence? Yeah, he got a point there. Denzel and Chris Rock is not the same sentence. Like, no, they're not. That's true. He's an A-less comedian for sure. I just feel like that goes about saying. If you look at his movies, they don't do that great.

Okay. You know, and this isn't a knock. No, no, no. I get it. Yeah. But you don't think of Chris Rock and you don't think of coming to America. You know what I mean? You don't think of Friday.

Okay. You just like, what's, I mean, it's probably his famous role was pokey. New Jack City, you know Chris Rock from that or anything else. But the movies he's done and was the star, I don't think you hold them in the same regard as classic, quote-unquote, black lead actor comedies. Like he didn't do Dr. Doolittle. Like Eddie Murphy is an A-list actor, celebrity. He's outside of the comedy. Martin, Big Mama's house.

But he's the donkey and Shrek. I didn't think about that. So maybe without his face, he's an A-lister. Wait. Hold on like this. I forgot about that. Chris Rock isn't the donkey in Shrek. It's Eddie Murphy.

It's Eddie Murphy. You're a liar. Yeah. What are you talking? I was like, wait, hold on. You're not about to make me feel. No,

that's Eddie Murphy is. It's Eddie Murphy. It's Ben, Eddie Murphy forever. Mike Myers. He just got. Yeah. I know, he really,

you really try to get that off. Chris Rock is not in Shrek? No. That's Eddie Murphy. That's Eddie Murphy. All right. Look at the, no, he was in the animal one with,

oh, the B movie. He was in the animal one. Jerry Seinfeld and Madagascar. Madagascar, yeah. And that's the thing. That's probably his best movie. Don't do that. Madagascar is not Chris Rock.

I love my wife is great. The longest yard is a classic Gary. Down the earth is great. Head of State is great. Nah, Chris Rock has great movies, just not A-List movies, which I feel like he would say the same thing. Yeah. No, man, I feel like Chris Rock is A-List, though.

Because all the A-List celebrities know and love Chris Rock. there's a there's a lot of like just horrors that a listers love that doesn't make them an a lister yeah but like that's different come on the side of chris rock as a list celebrity i don't think you could host the Oscars and not be a list yeah i just don't i don't see them going after B list like people i think he's an a list celeb but i don't think he's a list as far as like comedic actor carrying a movie if i'm if i'm if i'm I'm a financier and I'm bankrolling a movie. He has a legendary sitcom.

This was my example, too, what he's saying? I'm not, if you're asking me like Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, I'm banking on Eddie Murphy. He's not getting a green light. The moment he walks into Netflix, I don't know it. In comparison to Eddie Murphy, absolutely you go Eddie over Chris Rock and you box office and things like that. So where do you cut off A-list then? Because if you think about it.

Because to me, A-Lis is walking to any network and you're there. You don't think Shepel's A-List? No, what I'm saying is even Chappelle, when you think of comedic movies, take off half-baked, the ones he was the league. in. Yeah. And that's by choice, honestly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my choice. He chose a step away. You know, he had the Chappelle show, which we all know. But if you're looking at movies,

you know, I mean, Chappelle's catalog is, I would, similar to Chris Rock as far as that goes. Yeah. So you, Chris Rock probably is a way bigger movie catalog than

Chappelle does. I'm talking about the ones we remember. Yeah. Listen, I've been in some duds. Yeah. I've been in some duds. You've also been in some duds.

You've also been in. Oh, that was. really bad. Even when I watch it, I go, fuck. What was I doing? What's your top five worst Duds? Worse being number one to five. That I was in? Yeah. I haven't been a ton of movies, held up is not a Dudd. No. Of course not. Heldup is definitely not a Dudd. I can't shit on because these directors like comedy. Yeah. Heldup is set me up to not get any work. Who's dead? Who's dead? That's the words. Here's the thing. I say, I say, I

say what's the worst movie? The guy goes, I was just, I was just about the call. We're not calling Gary. So, Dudd, I don't mean by the quality of the movie, similar with held up, great film, but bad timing with the politics of Hollywood.

Like, what were the ones that you were like, yo, this was it and it did not work out. The movie I shot in New Orleans. That got followed. That's called college. That's why I followed you.

That was the one. I ain't lying. I got done with that. I go, oh, when's it come out? And here's where we got screwed on that movie. We came out like a month after Superbad.

And it was dang near the same cast. We had a fat guy. Oh, we had a nerd. Yeah. We had. And it was a coming of age movie like Superbad. But it was three high school kids.

They go to college for the weekend. And they're like hanging out the frat. They're trying to join the frat. But nobody knows they're in high school. We just think they're freshmen. Yeah. And so I was one of the frat guys that was, that was wild, just putting them through all the shit. So I got to.

I got kind of like let go on that movie like Gary just while out. Okay. Do what you want kind of. So it was great. I thought it's that. And that movie came out. Week one, we was 10th. I go, dang, we're 10 of 10.

We're in the top 10. Pull up how much movie college made at the box office. It's like two million. Then the years past, she saw Jonah Hill and Wolf of Wall Street. I was like, you know what? I get it now. I'm like, kind of.

But the biggest actress in that movie was Haley Bennett, and she hadn't really done much. And now she took off. Which one is Haley Bennett? Sometimes with names that. We made 6.2. The movie college released in 2008 had a worldwide box office gross of $6.2 million. Well, it had it. It has $7 million.

So you're $800,000 in the red. That's, yeah, a few financier. You're like, I didn't take a bath. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could probably find a tax way to get out of that. No, Haley Bennett probably was the biggest star out of that as far as like she took off after that. Who's Haley Bennett? When you see, when pull her up, you'll see her.

She's in everything now. Everything. Like, now that like where Hulu and Netflix will just like buy old movies that will end up on your cue. And you start seeing stars now that I'm like, how this person was in this fucking movie? Like Bradley Cooper and Wedding Crashers? You're like, what? You forgot he was in that. I mean, he was a star in that shit.

Look at her. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know. I don't. I don't. The Denzel movie. She's worked with everybody now. Yeah. What's the Denzel one where he was the cowboy and Chris Pratt? Oh, uh, what the fuck is the name of that?

She's always got big roles in movies, but she's the one, you know, she's like. The luckiest man in America, race for glory. I mean, I think the kid from the sixth sense crushed Happy Gilmore, too. He did well. Don't do it. Listen, I liked him in the entourage movie as well. I did, too. No, he was really good in the entourage movie.

Yeah. I just feel like with Adam Sandler's casting abilities, maybe we could have found somebody else. Yeah, I think we... So, Gary, it came out the other day that Tiffany Haddish and Jason Lee have a baby. I think that it's a lie. I think we did the same one. We did the same thing four years ago. Pull up Tiffany and Ashley Gary Owen.

We held two babies up and said we just had twins together. So you're suggesting that I'm telling you watch. Watch. Pull up me and Tiff and we're holding babies. Boom. Way to take her idea. Like this. So you're pretty much...

When you come up with that, Jason? You're calling him Carlos Mencias, what you're saying. Yeah. We didn't even put like, like, we was lying. We just held up, like, surprised everybody. Yeah. Yeah, no, I told everybody. I said, I have a huge in outfits.

So happy to share with you guys. You have our proud parents of twin girls. We have kids to take it long enough. Yeah. I just, I didn't even... Common, which is crazy. At Common. Sorry, you had to find out this way, but love is love.

And also, those are like newborns. Like, maybe Common would have... Yeah. No, no words at all. They're walking. Did you manifest this to then have twins? The power of words? Man.

You have twins? Mm-hmm. You know, my boss is a twin. Yes, I'm a twin. I have a twin sister. I was glad you said that because I was about to say identical. No. I hate people say that.

You're a twin? Like, yeah, that's my sister. Identical? Yeah, yeah. No, it can't. It doesn't happen. That's impossible, by the way. Because you hate transgender issues and that could never happen.

They're the worst. I really want to get the show cancel. Oh my God. Make a decision. Kings or dicks. It's just, Jesus. You can't have both. I mean, depending on the porn you're into, I think you can.

I also depend on the president. What's been fatherhood like at this age? Because our manager, Benner, has, how old is Grace now? 12? Yeah. So he had a daughter. He thought he was done, done. And his son was 10 and he had a daughter and was like, fuck.

him and his wife were both sitting there like oh god i don't know if we're ready this this shit is so easy with a nanny oh great oh my god you're a nanny i could have 40 kids yeah this shit is people say what's it like right got a nanny bro shit's easy there's another mom raising this whole shit yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they're crying nanny time to feed him now every week when her money comes out of my account money well spent money was i don't know never say, oh, she's that much? Yeah. That was worth it. That was worth it. Yeah. No, it really is with a nanny. And it sounds so bad.

No. My ex snapped when she and I got a nanny. I started at the airport about a year ago. Yeah. And we're cordial. We're cool. Yeah. And I said, I guess you know I got twins, right? And she goes, yeah, I heard. And I was like, um, you want to see him? She goes, no. I said, I know you do. So I just pulled it out. I showed. Wait, is this a morning flight? Like, paint the picture of, oh, the middle of the day. Atlanta, Cincinnati. Why was we on the same flight for Atlanta? That's a wild flight. What were you in Atlanta is what I was thinking? Atlanta is a weird flight. So I showed her and she sees this white arm and this white leg. And clearly, it's a female arm, female leg in the side. I don't realize it's that she's in the

picture. She goes, who's at? And I go, the nanny. She goes, you have a nanny? She goes, you have a nanny? Yeah. You have a nanny? She says, we have a nanny. I said, you made me at the wrong time. You should have met me now. You should have a fucking nanny. Yeah. Life is good. They just host things like a man too. Yeah. Josh, do we have a voicemails? You've got mail. So we have people that listen to our show, call in, ask for advice, tell us stories, you know, just a way to close our show, which is usually entertaining.

Because our listeners live way crazier lives than we do. Allegedly. Yeah, it's all. I mean, it could just be. Allegedly. It could be a bit. What's up, Maude, Demir's Roy. Love the show, everything y'all doing.

Now, I've been talking to this girl on my job. up for about two months, three weeks, and three days. We smashed twice during this time. We text and talk on FaceTime. It's a sociopath. And even go to sleep on FaceTime here and there. But we've never gone out. Not to the movies, out to eat, bowling, top golf, nothing.

Anytime I try to set up a day, she always got the excuse. Like, trying to find a baby sit somewhere among his day kids. Always seldom every time. That being an excuse. Cool shoulder type shit. But whatever. So I haven't spent any money on her purse. her say, but I have sent her some money on two occasions, which totaled about $100, just like

a, you know, congested because we're talking or whatever. It seems like to me I'm a side nigga. Now, I don't have a problem with that, but if that's what it is, I kind of want her to just say that. Does it sound like I'm a side nigga to y'all? And should I say something to her about it? Because for the most part, I'm cool with that, but I think my feelings starting to get bit more involved and I'm not trying to overstep my bounds.

Sir, I think she's trying to figure out if you're going to murder her in her sleep. That was like a sociopath. It sounds like he was reading that. Perfect woman. Are you the zodiac? Like what the fuck is wrong. That woman's amazing. I don't know who she is.

She's amazing. She doesn't bother me. She don't ask for nothing. We don't go out. Yeah. You're trying to cause a problem where there isn't one. What is the problem? What is the issue here, bro?

Oh my God, dude. If you see the messages I get or I got it, it was never $100. Oh, my God, dude. It's so like he wrote that down and was reading that. Hey, man, you know, we smash. Yeah, two times. I'm at work, you know. She's Chipotle.

She's on the white rice. I'm on the brown rice. Sometimes we mix. You know, they be like extra guacamole. I just put it in there. I don't even charge people. people, you know. That added up to $100.

Yeah. He said they fucked three times at 333 p.m. What the fuck was he getting? We've been together for two months, three weeks, and you got it down to that. Like that shit felt like a cereal killer letter. All I got that call was, it's you. Yeah. It's not her.

It's you are the problem. Yeah, man. Even if you all the side dude, play your part, man. But I don't think he's the side dude. I think she has to do. I think she has to do. I think she got multiple dudes. That was like, oh no, I can't tell that story.

Why? Tell it. No, please. Please. We have a theme here that everything was seven years ago. It didn't happen at this time. It could be 14 years ago. I'm not going to name names.

Okay. I had a friend that was sleeping with a girl that was also sleeping with a very, very well-known athlete. Okay. And he goes, he, I'm sitting there talking. He goes, man, I just found out my girl was sleeping with someone. Yeah. He goes, dang. And I go, I go, that's not your girl.

That's his girl. Yeah. You're the side. You're the side. So let's not get this straight. That dude is not sleeping with your girl. You're sleeping with his girl. Because I said, if he dies, it's on ESPN.

There's a high school gymnasium named after him. Yeah. And the funeral will be live streamed. If you die. Facebook post If you're lucky 13 comments I fucking hate you Gary

Who would you say that I'll just make any of my The story sounds better If I make a name up So let's say like Let me think somebody's dead I don't want to go That's Chamberlain

Okay Like y'all I just found out my man I just found out my girl My girl's sleep with Will Chamberlain You know And I was like this No no no no You're sleeping in Will Chamberlain's girl

don't ever get that twisted. I was like, then he goes, man, please you get you. What you say? Like I go, that's just the truth.

Yeah, yeah. That's his girl. Yeah. He's sharing his girl with you. I was looking at him like this. Dude, you think's really highly of yourself.

Just be happy. You're in the mix. And even if that's not Will Chamberlain's girl, that's still not your girl. That's still not your girl. Even if that's Will Chamberlain's hoe, that's not your girl. That range rover didn't come from you.

By the way. That's definitely. definitely is girl. I did my research after he told me. I was like, oh, he's breaking her off. She was impressed. She lives this lifestyle for a reason.

All right, Gary, your special, your YouTube specials out now? Yeah. No S. Gary Owen, no S. You're at the city winery here in New York this weekend. It's probably already sold out. Yeah, we're good.

This is Gary Owen, we're talking about. Okay, well, I mean, sold out. Let me tell you, you know, you're getting old. Is, uh, it used to add shows I did, like, midnight shows. We had afternoon shows now. Yeah.

They'll be like, yeah, you want to add one? Yeah, three o'clock. So I'm at the citywide. This freaking right. So we go Friday, Saturday. Yeah. So we started with four. Then we added a fifth on Saturday.

And they go, hey, do you want to do Sunday? I was like, yeah. I went to the website. I go, where are we going to put it? They go, two o'clock. I was like, I got a freaking brunch show. But sold out. We'll take it.

We did the Houston Improv for a live show for our pod, right? So we were in Dallas the night before. Three of us did the show. We got off stage at, I don't know, after meeting and greets and everything, like fucking 1 a.m. Yeah. After we left the green room. And we found out from our agent and team that we had a noon show. In Houston.

And Houston. Houston improv. So we went back to the hotel, grabbed our luggage. Drove? And drove. Yeah, car service came picked us up. Got a car service to Houston. Three and a half, right?

It's not bad. Dude. Yeah, but we wasn't expecting it. A podcast show and noon is the way. worst thing that could ever exist. Houston Improv. I'm not a stand-up comic. We're doing a podcast at noon.

Just on stage? On stage. So how does that work? Guys just ask you questions and stuff? No, no. It's like a variety show. We have like a whole variety. Actually, pride ourselves.

I think we do have the best live podcast show by far. I think 85 South is up there as well. But yeah, we have a great show. Thank God somebody at the meet and greet, which by the way was at 10.30 a.m. Meeting the meet and greet before? Yes. I'll do it after. Usually we go on stage late, so sometimes if people are going from work,

maybe they'll miss the 7.30, 8, and then we'll do it after. So we did all of them at 10.30 in the morning. And thank God found out somebody that was currently cheating on his girl. So we FaceTime. FaceTimed her on stage. Yeah. What happened? She forgave him.

Yeah, she was like, yo. It was kind of weird how it was. Yeah, like, yo, I know he was cheating. You know, I'm sorry. Yo, I'm sorry. Oh my God, on the air? Yeah. It was on stage at the Houston Improv.

You guys are wild on. Yeah, but it was. No, it was his idea because I went into the crowd after he told us that in confidence, obviously, at the meet and greet. And when I saw him at the table, I was like, well, do you want to FaceTime her? Because he was supposed to go with her and then just disappeared and ended up cheating. It hadn't been home yet. He was in the same clothes. He was in the day before.

He had been out for the whole night. So because he just cheated the day before? Yeah. He left the girl's crib and went to our meeting greet. Yeah. And he was supposed to go with her. He had a plus one. He was at the table by himself.

Oh, wow. Yeah. It was going on. There's a lot of them packed there. Yeah. It was cool, though. It made for a great conversation. Yeah, I bet.

Gary Owen, no S. Available on YouTube now. Sold out the City Winery. Gary, man, thank you. It was a pleasure meeting you. Been a fan of yours for years. Love everything that you're doing and held up is a classic.

Don't let nobody else. Right. Anything different. I agree. Yeah, it is. I love that movie. Can you get Mall to sing the John Legend song that's at the end of Think Like a Man? Two Night Tonight Tonight.

He does the best John Legend impression. I think this is the best way to... I don't know that song. Two nights than... The best I couldn't escape that. Give it to us. I don't want to brag. He sounds like he...

Do you like John Legend? Yeah, I got a funny story on John Legend. Here we are. I would love to hear it. He, he... I like John Legend a lot. Don't get a twist of it. I do too, but they have this thing in Cincinnati called the Macy's Music Fest.

And it's like, they bring all these huge artists in. And it's a big festival. It's like, it would be like six... A list R&B artist, right? Well, since John's from Springfield, Saturday night, he was the last one to go up. They put him up after Charlie Wilson. So Charlie Wilson went up there and just is crushing, right? And then he goes out there and be like, you know, I was on crack, but God deliver me.

I'm his name. And then my motherfuckers is crying. And he's like, you know, they went out of Charlie. I ain't going. I ain't going. And it's like immediate John Legend. just walks out, sits at a piano. Which is ordinary people.

I understand he's probably the bigger name, but sometimes you don't follow it. You got to read the room. After talking about crack and then ending with outstanding. It's very tough to. It was like the bickers are getting blown out. And you can see the cars on the bridge. Just leaving. I was like this.

I saw that two times. I saw that with John Legend and Charlie Wilson. And then I saw. Fantasia and Robin Thick at the Tom Joyner fan reunion and their managers were literally dang near arguing backstage who should go last. And I'm hosting

the show and I'm sitting there going if I'm Robin Thick's manager I'm not fighting this. Let Fentasia go last with this dog. So Fantasia's out there. She's got her lip doing Yeah. Kicking her shoes off. Shoes off sweating. Yeah. Yeah.

In the audience people are getting saved. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, what's going on? And then she just gets off. Again, the crowd's crying. Here comes Robin Thick walking the piano. You know what I mean? Like this. Oh, my God.

It's just the energy level's different, man. You can't see it. Here's it's funny. Two years later, I got another show of Robin Thick. We're in Batm Rouge. Of all there, on Batm Rouge on LSU's campus. It's Valentine's Day.

Okay. He must have learned from that Fantagin. He was trying to dance. One point he got on the piano. I go, oh, he learned something from Fantasia. That's hilarious. It was me,

Robin Thick, and John B. It was like the white soul. Who put this together? The white soul. That's the sickest line up. And I love John B. That is the sickest line up. Valenzai.

I have to meet that promoter and shake his hand. That is the funniest lineup for Valentine's Day. Ben Rouge, get ready. I think it was. It's why enough. We got John D. No, white guy.

Robin thick. If you did not want to tell your family you're dating a black woman, then what I came in cold. Oh, my God, dog. That's Gary Owen, man. I'm that nigger. He's just ginger. Gary, thank you, my brother. No, thanks.

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