New Rory & MAL - Checking In With Lola Brooke

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Rory & Mal check in with Lola Brooke and talk to difference between "ratchet" and "ghetto", rank the men from each New York City borough, and promote her new EP "iight bet" #volume All lines provi...ded by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:49 So now that we are rolling. Cold opening. I want to know. Because we were arguing out of the gate. No, we weren't arguing. It felt like a bit of an argument to me. I made a statement. I was saying, you know, something about, I don't think Lola,
Starting point is 00:03:02 I look at her like she's not one of the ghetto female MCs. No, tell them how you came up with it. Yeah. You're one of the Republicans. I think she's one of the good ones. No, so Karucci said that she channeled you for her role on a lifetime show. So I was saying, okay, I got to see it because if she's acting ghetto, then what is she trying to say about Lola?
Starting point is 00:03:23 And what I said? You said, so you think, do I think that you're ghetto? And I said, no. I don't. I said, I don't think you're ghetto. But why did you think that that's what she would channel? I didn't think it was. I said if. That's why I said if. No, you turned to that channel. So then Lola says you're not, you say you're not ghetto, you're ratchet.
Starting point is 00:03:40 No, I said I'm not ratchet. Oh, you're not ratchett. Okay, so what's the difference between ratchet and ghetto? Ratchet is just, it's over the top. It's just tasteless. Ratchet is tasteless. Okay. Ghetto is, I'm from the hood. I'm outspoken. Yeah, it's like I'm very much outspoken. and I might say something that translate into being aggressive, but I don't mean no harm.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I'm just from the trenches, so my environment may make me come off a little bold. When you say you're from the trenches, that's like when rapists say it from the bottom. I like to talk to your parents and see what they think about that. I'm from the trenches. What's the trenches, though? What you mean?
Starting point is 00:04:23 I come from the show to. I'm from the trenches. Oh, you lived in the show? Yeah. Okay, so that's the trenches. Yeah, I come from the trenches. Yeah, when you got to share a shower with the whole floor. Yeah, that's, that's the trench. I'm from the trenches. Okay. Which I'm sure they turn into like a luxury condominium in bedstown. Oh, yeah. Now it's a four little houses. Like, I had to go to the, my mom's had to take the train from Brooklyn to the Bronx to come back almost every single day. So you were born in Brooklyn? Yeah, born and raised. Okay. You're questioning her a lot about a lot of stuff. But for how to get an apartment, she's She was in the shelter. And you know, most of the shelters, they, it's a lot of them in the Bronx. Yeah, for sure. I wanted to live as a shelter not too far from Yankee Stadium.
Starting point is 00:05:06 That's exactly. Yeah, that's what I think, it was something called, yeah, what she told me it was. It's some stadium. Yeah, it is. So it's funny because. It was a family shelter. So years ago, they used to have, like, the big baseball on the front. So as a kid, I didn't know it was a shelter.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So every time I used to drive past that building, I said to my mom, I wanted to live there. Wow. Oh, my God. playing catch you know as a kid you see a big baseball on the building you like it looks like they're having fun in there like you know you see a baseball like they're playing baseball in it but because it's so close to yankee stadium see i didn't know i was a baby when i was in the show so you know i'm saying but i guess that's why i jacked the bronx too you also you're fucking with the bronx i do i do think it's funny in like the next 15 years the kids that are going to be screaming
Starting point is 00:05:51 they from nostrom though like it's a whole new wave it's gonna be it's a whole new wave coming in We are joined today by rapper Brooklyn Night Lola Brooke. Now Lola walked in here with her leather on, channeling Aaliyah with the bandana. Oh, I like that. That's the Jodice Aaliyah right there. But that's what the, you know, the Kardashians are going to jack as the ghetto shit, probably by next week. The same bandana. They'll look at the bandana like they're called that ghetto.
Starting point is 00:06:21 See, Lifetime would call that ghetto. No, they would jack that ghetto. This is ghetto fabulous. Right. You see the bedazzle. Yeah, the bedazzle makes it fabulous. But if that was just like no bedazzle... Yeah, it would have been gang binging.
Starting point is 00:06:34 It would be gang banging. It would be gang banging. I don't know. Some of these young kids, I think they made like bedazzle their cripped bandanas at this point. It's a whole new scary generation. Yeah. I don't think that's taken away from anything gang related. Now, Lola, you played your new song for Us Paine, album out this Friday.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yes. What's the name of the album? I bet. I bet. Yeah. What inspired that? Who was the person that said something to you that then you had to reply with I bet? And you said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:01 This sums everything up. I say it so much. Okay. It's to the point where my team is calling me to get things done. And I be irritated. It's a lot. And I'm like, I bet. Like, I bet.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I got it. I got it. I always be like, I got it. So they be like, you said that you got it. I bet. I bet means no for sure. So I bet is like your last, is that the last last, level of like don't ask me again.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Because if it's like I got it and they keep asking you, it's like I bet. What's after I bet? Is it a fight? But it's not just that. I bet can mean a lot of things. It's like I bet I'm on that. It's the tone. Because I feel like you good?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yes. The tone can depend on what's going to happen. You're good. Dead ass is one of those. Yes. Can you give us the five different tones of I bet? And we could guess what happens after that tone with I bet. See, that's bad ass.
Starting point is 00:07:56 now that's channeling my New York lingo. And off the top of my dome, I don't know. I just be like, all right. So, Mar called you, Moll called you ghetto. I bet. I rock with it.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay, that's not aggressive. Yeah, that's not, that's not too aggressive. That's like, that's like you say one more thing and then it's like,
Starting point is 00:08:13 I bet. Now, now if you be like, it's on a psych when I see you, I bet. That's different. Different tone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I'm expecting physical confrontation. Yes. So now if you, say, see the guy you're dating and he's he's liking too many pictures of a girl that you kind of know he likes like what level i bet is that i bet don't come back home nathan you want to play and finally damaris has some backup on his podcast yeah yeah this what we doing i bet it's not the i bet that scares me it's the oh this is what we doing yeah because to me her
Starting point is 00:08:51 get back is going to be way worse than anything that i just did i say less we like and photos? I'm going to fuck somebody else. Yeah, but I don't like that because, see, that I I bet is like, now I'm about to do some bullshit that you thought I was doing before, but now I'm about to do it. Yeah. Now the bullshit starts. Every accusation you put on me, I bet, we about to do that now. Yeah, see, I don't like that IA bet. When you follow up there. The I bet with the heard you, it's heard you. Herdew. Herdew. Yeah, but Herjoo get you choked though. Yo, ma. I'm just saying, I've seen it. I'm not going to do it. Of course not not you. It's cool. I bet. It is what it is. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:09:26 No, this is what we doing? This is what we doing. We can't have y'all twin here at the same time. I jack it. That's the problem. I can rock with it. The I bet from the liking pictures is how you get the record pain, in my opinion. That's how you get there.
Starting point is 00:09:40 It's like, yeah, I bet, no more pain. Did that, did that bullet have a name or that was just overall experiences? From I bet or pain? Pain. Pain. Because I think you said, I bet, and then you wrote pain. Pain is, it could mean multiple things. be relationships or it could be you saying no more drama.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Like, you know, moving forward, you know what I'm saying? So everybody got to go through it, get through it to understand it. And that's what pain is. It's like, I'm not scared to go through a little, you could pinch me. And I'm going to pinch you back. Yeah. Yeah, but your pinch is a little different, though. I pitch a little different.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah, whenever women decide to pinch back, it's just different. But see, I'm not a spite. It's a haymaker. I don't, I'm not spiteful. Like I don't do spiteful things Like my pinch is different I'm just going to move on Like I'm not going
Starting point is 00:10:31 I don't get back My get back is moving on I feel like people say that I don't know if I believe it though No I'm I'm living proof That you Hey Lola said I'm living proof Like I move to fuck on
Starting point is 00:10:45 There's nobody in your past That could say that they did something foul And then you you double down With that energy They'd be like yo And if I don't like 100% move on, I'm not the same person. Like, you know, it's like, all, cool,
Starting point is 00:11:01 because I do forgive. Yeah. I forgive. But the relationship will never be the same. I won't be the same. I mean, men, our ego is so weird that, like, if I had a girl write a record like pain about me, I would be like, she still like me.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Oh, yeah, of course. That's why I think things get fucked up with women writers that write amazing records about men, because we take it as, oh, she's still thinking about me. But see, that's the thing. Yeah, I feel like women are so emotional. emotional that everything is about y'all yeah that's a fact like no i just know how to go back into tom and relive that emotion to make music because i'm an artist but i'm not in that
Starting point is 00:11:37 moment no more like i'm cool at what point did you realize that you wanted to like make music and start rapping like how old were you seven eight really what's your first your earliest memories of hip-hop um 50 cent Winkster, a music video. Damn, I'm old. I mean, I was 11, 10? When did that come out? 0-1, I was 11.
Starting point is 00:12:08 No, Waxter was before that. I mean, yeah. Yeah, Ma'all, you're getting a little too over there. When they start saying Wankster, that's like I told you, one time I was listening to the Raider, it was like, yo, you're about to play a throwback. And then they played Biggie, I was like, well, yeah, this is a throwback? Yeah. I mean, yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:12:22 30 years ago, I was like, damn. But what would that be for me, though? Your throwback? Mike's that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You were seven years old and O2 then.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah. No, but I'm saying what would I call a biggie record? It's not a like, what would that be for me? Oh, that's like, that's like when they invented five. That's like old. Yeah, that's just that's old school. Yeah, that's what they invented the will for you. 94.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah. I mean, I know we keep going back to Payne, but how did like the Mary influence? Because yeah, if you were seven years old and 02, like Mary was something you had to go back to back to. And shout out to Mary for clearing that sample. Not true. Not true. I was in elementary school my mom's just playing new Mary
Starting point is 00:12:59 Mary been putting Yo Mary been putting in training No drama was probably when he was in middle school right I'm not too sure I would guess around that time Yeah How old are you Lola 31?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Okay so yeah middle school probably around fifth grade Okay so with the Mary sample Was that something you had Already set up and then reached out to Mary To get that cleared or Well the sample was the sample in a production, the beat was already made.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It was brought to me, like, do you rock with it? Derek Milano brought it to me. And I was like, I could rock with it. And I did it. But it's like, Mary is a staple in a black household.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So my mom's cooking to it, cleaning the Mary Records, taking me school with Mary Records playing in the car. So Mary is part of our life. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how my moms get through her pain. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And it rubbed off on me. How's everything since don't play with it? Just navigating off the success of that. Because sometimes there's like a catch-22 when you catch up a big record. When that came out, 21? It came out 2021. 2020-21. And yeah, that's a blessing.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And the record is timeless and incredible and a staple in New York. But did that kind of put an identity on you in some way to make it a little difficult to move outside of that record? Um, as far as the sound, so much. Yeah, you, you, you compare. Sometimes records are more successful than what your brand was at the time. So it makes it tough to not be looked at as just that one song. See, what don't play with it. Don't play with it was me 100%.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Like, I made that song off my energy. So don't play with it is my brand. And to move on from it, I can't move on from, don't play with it until I stamp it. Yeah. And now I'm finally stamping that girl today. And it's been what the past two years? Yeah. So what happened in that two years that you feel like now you're finally stamping it?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Being in this business, the music business, you will lose yourself. Like real talk, they don't talk about that. You lose yourself. You start overthinking. You don't know what to do when it's right in front of your face. It's you. It's who you are. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So I didn't channel it. I started overthinking. I started doubting myself because it took me so long to get here that I still was in disbelief that I made it. What was the moment, though, that changed that? What was the moment in that two years
Starting point is 00:15:38 that you finally realized that, though? Because two years isn't that long, by the way. It takes some artists 10 years to realize this year. Yeah, I felt like two years was long. I was just thinking, God, that I'm still here today to catch out where I left off at, you know? But probably like the last eight, nine,
Starting point is 00:15:55 years. I mean, eight to nine months, I really start living in my moment because I start to sit back. I put out a body of work. It was called Dennis' daughter. And I just sat back and looked on what was the process. And I started being more grateful. Not saying that I wasn't, but I started celebrating myself more. I'm like, dang, like you was here, you was there. You put this out. You work with this person, like, this is, this is a great moment for you. You should live in it more. What was your biggest outside of, like, realizing that you can lose yourself in this industry? What was, like, the one thing that you learned and was like, oh, shit, okay, I had no idea that this was a part of it? Haffing to mask it, because nobody care.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Like, nobody care. Yeah. But when you say nobody cares, what do you mean? Nobody cares. About what? About what? about you or? Yeah, like the world in general.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Like, of course you got people that love you. You know what I'm saying? Of course. Of course. But in all reality, nobody really care because everybody got their own responsibilities. Everybody got their own problems. So it's not saying that they don't care because they don't care about you. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:09 But they don't have the time to care enough. Yeah. Everyone's doing with their own shit. Nobody's here to save you. Nobody's here to save you. They don't care when it matters to them, which they don't owe you anything to begin with. They don't owe it to you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:21 They owe it to themselves as well as you owe it to yourself. So you got to figure it out. Did you have any, because me and Rory talk about it a lot personally, do you have anybody that you couldn't wait to meet in the industry? And then you met them and it was just like, it just changed your perception about them. You don't have to name. Good or bad.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It just doesn't have to be good or bad. I'm somebody that bring energy. So I've been around people that don't really vibe out with a lot of people and I make them laugh. Like for an example, Bryson Bryson is very much to himself but I don't quote good conversations
Starting point is 00:18:00 with him. You know what I'm saying? Like he don't open up to a lot of people and he gave me advice on things. So I feel like some people may have a bad experience with a certain artist but you probably just wasn't a cup of tea. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:14 A lot of people don't look at it like that though. Maybe it was me. Like maybe my personality and that person. Much. You know what I'm saying? Maybe you ain't do enough. Yeah. I mean, we had Bryson up here a few weeks ago. And, you know, he was definitely talking about his experience in the music industry. What was that type of advice or conversation you had with him? That was helpful. He said to me, I never forget he brought me out at Rolla Loud in L.A. and he just was like, the moment you stop being yourself is over. And I was like, it just stuck with me. I was like, because right now I'm not feeling like myself. And that's when I was like, oh, it's 9-1-1.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. Like, I got a, oh, I got a, I got to knock out of it. Mm-hmm. Well, what about it didn't feel like yourself? Did you feel like you were trying to play the role of whatever current female rapper should be? Like, just people pleasing with any and everything. Just people pleasing. I've never been that artist.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Like, when people tell me, like, why are you so aggressive? I'd never kid. Why are kid now? Yeah. Are you saying behind the scenes or creatively as well? in general life in general because for me music is i write music that relates to my lifestyle so i'm sometimes people be like oh some some days you shine east and some days you lola brook no i'm legit both of those people every single day i just turn it off and on throughout the day
Starting point is 00:19:38 you know what i'm saying so how has now you know being such a face that people know when they see you how has that affected your your dating life whether it was good for good or bad i was i was kind of cool with it because it didn't i mean it's a little more hectic but your dating life is hectic day in life yeah me for why would i have why would it be hectic for me no that's what's saying like how has it how is it because i'm all thinks your ghetto i don't think lola's ghetto i'm saying how has you know being on tv and everybody knows lola brook when you're out moving around how has that affected your dating life, if it has. Oh, you're saying my dating life.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I thought you're talking about in general. No, your dating life. Oh, my dating life. Nothing don't change for me. I mean, of course, you be paranoid. Like, who sent you? Yes. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Meeting the niggas is crazy. For real, because people have bad intentions. Oh, yeah, no, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to wait it out. Mm-hmm. But I found some success in that space. I like that.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I found some success in that space. That's what I'm going to start. Leaves it open ended. Yeah, I found some success in the dating space. You know what I'm saying? When women asked my status, I found some success. I found some success. I like that.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I mean, I want to say on dating too too long, but DeMaris has always said that guys from Queens is the fucking worst, which I resent. But then she has terrible, terrible experience in Brooklyn. As far as the boroughs go, how would we rank men as far as the five boroughs? go. Starting with Staten Island at five. Okay, Staten Island.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Lola ain't never dated a nigga. She's never been on the ferry. Yeah, never. I've been on the ferry. You've been to see the Statue of Liberty. How many times have you been to? Because New Yorker, we don't go to Star. I go to Staten Island.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I like Staten Island. I'm the one New Yorker that does. I have family that moved there, but I think he moved there because he was in a relationship with a girl. So I think that's hot. I think that's that. I was confused.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Like, how did this go down? Niggas don't need the Staten Island. No. He lived in Brooklyn? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That don't have. But no, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I wasn't out there. Like, I've probably been out there. I could count on one here and how many times. I've been out to Staten Island. I ain't going to front. I've been to Staten Island twice in my life. I've been to London. I've been to London more than I've been to Staten Island.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah, no. Yeah, I've been to Staten Island, probably like three to five. Yeah, that's the Muck. I feel like that's right there's the Maks. Like for New Yorkers, two to three is the Mac. If you don't live there. But I've been on the ferry probably once or twice. But you don't go to Staten Island
Starting point is 00:22:14 We don't go to Staten Island No, I was a kid I'm not It was against your will Yeah As an adult You make the choice I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:22:21 No, as an adult I've never I haven't been to Staten Island So we have Staten Island Unfortunately No disrespect to Staten Island We like Staten Island At least
Starting point is 00:22:28 Damaris I know you got Staten Island at 5 Because you never been there once Number four though Where are we landing Demaris I'm looking at you first I'm not going to front I don't know the Bronx is kind of crazy
Starting point is 00:22:38 Them nigs is horrible Horrible Are we doing It's horrible one But you know what? Let me say this. I feel like it might be good men in Staten Island, but New York be treating them so crazy. Like, I don't know why they be treating them like that. It's probably good men in there and the girls don't know. No, there's great people in Staten Island, period. When you like get past the red state part of it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Like, once you get past the Italian community, like, it's a really great place. You probably don't know, man. Yeah, we don't. We don't know. I think of Faradale. I know nothing about Staten Island. If you took my phone and put me in Staten Island, I would not know how to get back to Manhattan. That's true. All the girls love methad, man. Staten Island.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They do. But that's like, there could be a bunch of meths out there. We don't know. A bunch of people on Memphis. It's a bunch of people on fentanyl. Yeah, it's a bunch of meth and statinalla. All right. So you got the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Whatever, number four. I mean, that makes sense because you're from there. Where, the Bronx? Yeah, so like four. I get that. But. Fuck you. Listen, I don't know the order, but what I do know is Brooklyn is number one.
Starting point is 00:23:39 so. Lola, Lola. I don't know. Thank you, baby. Sweetie. Somebody fight back. Somebody step in.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Somebody fight back. I can't overstep with a woman. Her date. Hold on. I just want to clarify that you are saying that Brooklyn
Starting point is 00:23:52 you're saying that. Yeah, because my daddy is from Brooklyn. Okay, babe. See, and we can't argue with that. You know what I'm right.
Starting point is 00:24:00 How do we argue? Okay. My dad was the shit, though. I ain't go, I'm right. I love him. I love him.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I love him. I love him. I ain't go frank. But I'm saying, I got my uncle, my uncles are good men and they're from Brooklyn. My uncles are real good men for sure. They take care of their family.
Starting point is 00:24:16 All my uncles, I don't have, I don't got not one uncle that don't take care of his kids. That's honorable. How many he got? And my grandfathers got a lot of kids. I know. How many different babe mamas? A lot.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Dang, don't come on. I'm just saying. Brooklyn's small. It takes a village. It's a village. It's the whole parkway. It's only one of my uncles that got more than one baby mother. but all my other uncles, one.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Okay. Where's your family from originally? Like, what's your ethnicity? Are y'all Caribbean? I'm a Yankee, man. Okay, but your family is from New York as well? Mm-hmm. You give me triny.
Starting point is 00:24:53 You know, like you can be triny. Because I'm from Brooklyn. Like, I was eating saltfish and baked, Kalu and porridge and for breakfast on, it was regular for me. Yeah. I think it's the, it's the bandana too, though. That's definitely. Don't play, man. Stop playing. Like, how's Brooklyn changed musically?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Obviously, a gentrification we only need to speak about. But music-wise, based off when you popped to, I don't know, you know, 2001 was a crazy difference in how the music changed. For me? Yeah. I don't feel like it changed. I just feel like the, the, it's been, make sure I see this right. Make sure you say it right because they're going to kill you if you know. Right. I don't feel like it changed, but I feel like we don't get as knowledge as we don't get as knowledge as we. Don't get acknowledged? Brooklyn?
Starting point is 00:25:54 As we used to? I mean, better when it comes to New York as opposed to what? Because I feel like it changed. Because I don't feel like it changed. It's Bronx and Brooklyn really, period right now. I don't feel like it changed. Like, I feel like the music is, I feel like music in general. is changing so New York sound is trying to manage.
Starting point is 00:26:15 What is the New York Sound? Drew. Which isn't our sound. Which isn't our sound. But that would be the New York Sound. That's what brought New York back was the drill sound, specifically in Bronx and Brooklyn. That's true.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Damn, hold on. And you were part of that too. I mean, not to say all your stuff is drill per se, but... But see, I don't make drill music, but my energy is drill tempo. Yeah. Yes. And some of your stuff has that... that drill knock or some of that same base cadence.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah, it's the pocket. Yeah. I feel like one of the reasons why, me personally, I like Lola's music when it comes to comparing the rest of rap is that Lola allows herself to be energetic. Like, Lola, like, I can drink Hennessy and hang out the window and listen to Lola's music. While the rest of this music is like, I got high on drugs. Wait, wait, wait, you can do what? Listen, the rest of this music is like, I got to be high on drugs.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's mad, slow. It's mad. Like, there's no energy. Energy hasn't, like, been the thing. Like, everybody just wants. to sound like they have asleep when it come to rap. And I think that that's the South's influence moving up here. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I like sounding hype. I want to sound hype. I want to listen to Lola. I want to listen to Meek. I want to like yell at niggas. Like, and niggas not making yell at niggas. You do want to yell at nymph. I do.
Starting point is 00:27:27 But I like that. I like energy. Yeah. Like I like energy in my rap. Like, and I feel like that used to be New York's thing. But because the sleepy shit became the thing, now everybody's trying to imitate that. The kids are on drugs.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. I mean, that's the beauty of New York that they could still take perks and still yell. I never understood that with half the drill seat. New York could get somebody from New York could wake up and be on hot school from a hot shower. Word. No coffee, no nothing. It's like the water hot, it's lit. Straight hot shower and they're on hot.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I'm up. Like, I had to wake up today. Mm-hmm. And get busy. And I'm mad. And I'm mad. It's because you was on a fucking train to go to work. I understand where the shit comes from.
Starting point is 00:28:09 what I'm saying. So we just, the energy is just naturally in us because we have to fight with so many different energies when we get outside. I mean, do you think Brooklyn has been divided musically the past five years? Like post-COVID, do you feel like Brooklyn has not been what it used to? Because I even feel like when New York was the golden era and all that, of course it was divided because of the boroughs, but Brooklyn was kind of the most unified if you got down to it. With your peers, how do you feel? I feel like my pair has been like from COVID though. Post-co.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah, post-COVID. I'm saying 2020 to 2025. I mean, can you blame it? We have to be six. We just told us to be six feet. We couldn't collab. We had to be six feet from everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And your record popped in that time, like in that moment. Yeah, it did. So like, so did you feel like that kind of? But see, they had me in the house for too long. So when 2021 came. He was ready. Because in the video, they came at the end saying, yo, yeah, I got to wrap this up because it was curfew, I think, at the time when I did the video.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah. So it was just a rush of feeling like, I got to get back outside, I miss outside. So that's where that energy came from. Do you think, like, Lotto and Young Miami were the right, in retrospect, the right remix to that based over it being such a New York record? Well, let's just say this. I reached out to New York artists for that record. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It just didn't happen. You don't have to name names, but. It was not, it's not, it was, and it was nothing, like, most of the stories is nothing bad or anything like that. But I want people to know that I've reached out for a New York artist to be on that record. But why didn't it happen? Because the record was, the record was hot. I mean, I feel like those artists, when they, when they feel like they want to tell their story on why, they tell y'all. But I don't feel like that's my place to tell it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, but it's your record. Yeah. I want to know who turned that down. Like who turned down a chance to jump on that record at that time? They didn't turn it down. Some people didn't turn it down. One of the people, they, I should have put him on blast, but I ain't going to do that. I ain't messy.
Starting point is 00:30:21 But one of the other artists, they didn't turn it down because they didn't want to. They just, it just didn't happen. It just didn't happen. Okay. Things get taught. The people, you know, people got other things they got to do to or whatever, not saying that they don't want to be a part of it. But sometimes it just don't happen. Anybody that you wanted to really work with and it fell through, like,
Starting point is 00:30:41 didn't happen? I didn't, I wasn't really tripping about the remix anyways. Mm-hmm. No, remix it's not in general. I'm saying, is there any artists in general? Oh, besides that. Yeah, that you ever wanted to work with was like, damn, I gotta get a record with this person.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And it looked like it was gonna happen. And then for whatever reason, it just, it fell through. It didn't happen. Nah, it went, it fell through. It was Meek. Oh, you wanted that meek feature. Yeah. Meek would have made a lot of sense on that.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. Oh, you took my foot. Wait, you took my, you took my, in general, outside of music, not the record. Yeah, in general. In general, I don't play with it. I think Meek would have went fucking crazy on that. Meek would have went crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah. You don't think that could still happen, though, with Meek? For in general? Yeah. We got like three songs in right now. Oh, I bet. Okay. I mean, I feel like we're going to get back in or whatever, but we've worked.
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Starting point is 00:38:17 and everything that happened there? I don't even know the full backstory, but I know that was a thing when the remix happened and everything. Where is that relationship by now? There's no relationship. Okay. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I like, look like, okay. All right, cool, bet. No, no. I can tell what somebody on. It's almost okay. I'm going to ask. There ain't a relationship. Like, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It's no relationship. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Uh, okay. Speaking of Philly on I bet you have New York, L.A., Gillie's daughter, who I think is going to be a fucking superstar. She is a superstar. She's incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:48 The people just don't know yet, but they can't come out. How did that relationship start? Um, because she's, the only feature on there, right? Yep. Okay, so I was bumping into New York, L.A. in the spots. Like, anybody just outside vibing. I don't remember exactly what we was doing while we was outside, but the energy just kept, we kept connecting outside of music. So, once, one day she was in New York City and they asked like, yo, you want to get in when New York, L.A. And I'm like, yeah. facts. And we made a record from scratch.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Okay. She produced on it as well? What you mean? Like on a beat? Yeah. I mean, no, I mean, well, we did say what we like or what we dislike when the producers was working. It was S.D. Reefa. So we was saying like, we like this vibe. We don't like this. Or she freestyling. She's trying to get a hook together. And then I'm freestyling trying to get a verse to see what would sound good and what was the subject matter. Yeah. How do you feel artists have to market these days?
Starting point is 00:39:57 Because that used to fall on the label and I feel like that doesn't, the label has stepped out and they call themselves just distribution at this point. Right. They're a bank. What's the type of pressure when you're putting out an album, EP, single that that's in the back of your mind now, where maybe that wasn't a thing artists had to think about in the beginning? I don't know if there's something that an artist didn't have to think about in the beginning, but for me, I can't make music that I can't sell. Like if it don't fit for my brand I'm not trying to fit in If a song don't fit me is not for me
Starting point is 00:40:31 Like I can't If a producer in there he's saying Oh I think you should talk about Telling a Telling a nigga take you shopping every day I'm like I don't That's not my pop like to shop but I don't care to shop That's not a marketing plan
Starting point is 00:40:49 Like that's not Marketing Plan Lola goes shopping all over New York City. I mean, shit, the easiest one now, I guess, would just be post-Kendrick Drake Beef. Just find somebody to say something bad about. But see, that's another thing, too. And then start a Discord channel. Controversy is just not my bop.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Like, you know what I'm saying? So when you asked me that question about if I still had a relationship with this person, it's like, nah, I don't feed into stuff like that. Like that don't feed me. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like my energy is very big. and I have to protect it like that. Not come good with that.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like, of course, this is a competitive sport. You know what I'm saying? But social media makes things so small that I don't feel like it's a friendly competitive sport no more. It gets personal. So I stay away from me. Yeah. I mean, but at this point, outside of that situation,
Starting point is 00:41:45 if somebody did put a record out, Not some social media back and forth bullshit, but the actual record, do you feel like that would make you get in the booth or you still want to just chill? It depends. If I feel like, it depends. Sometimes I'd be like, why would I respond to that?
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, I get that. Yeah. Have they thrown shot to shoot? I feel like I don't, I feel like I would have courted if one of them had threw some shots at Lola. That's what I'm saying. They probably did, but they ain't hit.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Like that, baby, D? Yeah. They probably did. You can shoot as much as you want. If I don't get grazed, the fuck I'm shooting back for. Right. Like, I probably didn't even hear them shots. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I don't think I've heard of any, any girls throw shots a little, though. No. Like, you do a good job as staying away from that type of shit. See, that's the thing. But I'm, like, I'm pretty sure it's been thrown. But I, like I said, all jokes aside, I'm living proof. I do not pay attention to bullshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Like. I respect that. Do we think they'll ever be the male rapper versus female rapper? and I'm not saying like the party and Meg situation because they dated. I'm talking about just a straight up man versus woman. See, I ain't going front. Like, I'm not quick to go neck to neck with a female artist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I feel like it's like, come on, son. It's a little cliche. We already outnumbered, bro. Like, well, it don't even make sense. But for a male artist, oh, I might clip them. Lola, if I hear you, listen, I like you, if I hear you throwing shots at one of these. I'm not, I ain't going to. I'm just saying if I'm just saying if I,
Starting point is 00:43:17 If a shot thrown at me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, who wouldn't even do that, though? Like, what Kyle would be on the mic? Who's the girl? That's what I'm saying. So that's why it's like, that's why I would do it. Dreamdaw? Dreamdaw smoke tory lanes. But again, that came from, like, back dating history.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I want to see the one outside of, like, U.R. But that was personal reason. So I'm saying, outside of that. I would just like to see the, the non-dating past male versus female rapper. But, like, what, what? Times have changed, man. I know, you look up trying to crazy. Weird is funny.
Starting point is 00:43:47 When you're so confident, people will want to come at you because you're just so confident. And it might happen. I pray it don't because, you know, I'm, spread love is the Brooklyn way. I really don't want to. No, Joey badass tour everybody. That is not the Brooklyn way. Sprite or any, all love. I get tough love too.
Starting point is 00:44:04 That's the Brooklyn way too. Shout out to my mom. Yeah, I guess when I was younger, maybe those dudes did love me that chased me out of Brooklyn. Maybe they was just trying to catch me to tell me they had to hide in a hardware store one time to not get jumped in Brooklyn. There was nothing lovely about Brooklyn. Yeah, I got you. They showed no love. But why were y'all there?
Starting point is 00:44:20 Fucking their women. Yeah. No, I was going to get out. So then they got rights to, no I'm saying? They don't. They got rights. If I'm coming to see a girl,
Starting point is 00:44:28 I don't know these niggas. They got rights, man. Rights to what? Yeah, like, I was going to see a girl. I was going to see a girl. Dudes are standing outside. Now I'm getting changed.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Probably was their little sister, man. They probably ain't tripping that you doing your big one. It probably was. But they like not over here. This little sis. And don't do that because if one of Lola's homeboys came up to Grand Concourse to see your sister,
Starting point is 00:44:52 I don't think you'd be sitting there like, yeah, nah, come on in, sir. That's what I'm saying. That's a fact. You got to protect the foot. No, yeah, we don't look at it like that. We're just going to see a girl, but yeah, them niggas definitely chase me all the way back to the train. Good times, though.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Good times. All right, so talk to us about the new album, Lola. I bet. Whatever you need, I got it. It's one of those. How you feel right now? How you won't feel? I want to hear, I want to hear Lola rap.
Starting point is 00:45:17 about the guy that got away. The guy that got away. Yeah. I get away. See, that's a problem. Why are you acting like y'all don't never date guys that like were good guys? He was a great guy. You may have been on bullshit.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You were in limbo. You still was fucking with this. Ain't shit nigger that you was in love with. That's why girls like me need to be in the full front too because y'all really think women. The only women out here that exist is ain't shit women. No, no, no, no. I'm not saying ain't shit. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, no, that's what you're saying. But you can let a, you can lose a guy. Like from, from, yeah, from me being an ain't shit person. No, but like, say, how else will he get away? Because say you're in a situation, right? Like you're dating somebody. It's not the best situation, but you are in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:46:06 You just happen to meet a guy. He's great. He's cool. But you don't really, you can't give him the energy that, you know, because it's like, I got a situation. I got somebody. But you know this guy is good for you. Like he's the type of the dude you wit
Starting point is 00:46:18 He ain't shit You know what I'm saying Not saying he cheated or nothing like that But it's just like he got a lot of weird shit going on Not shit that's progressive in your life Could be kind of toxic This guy is You know
Starting point is 00:46:31 He's all of the things But it's just that you're not single That could be the guy that got away Like he got away from me Listen Or would you just straight up leave the other dude If I'm not happy I am leaving
Starting point is 00:46:44 I've been and sit Hold on Hold on. Let me finish. It again. I've been in relationships where I wasn't happy and I was still there because I felt that it had some, I had some fight in me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:59 I give it a chance. Okay. Things are not perfect. So just because you're not happy at that moment don't mean that you can't be happy in the future with this person. It's just, y'all might not be seeing out of odds. So I give it a chance. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:11 So yes, a good guy might come around when I'm trying to fight for my relationship. But that don't mean that he got away. he probably was good but not good for me. Because if something is for me, it's going to be there. For sure. So even if I leave this man the next year and the last man was trying to get me last year, or whatever, darn, he going to be there.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Shit, I don't know. So he's got to wait around, right? And if he's not there, then it's all right. I'm not folding. I'm good. God got me, man. God got me. You attached to that baby, did?
Starting point is 00:47:45 I sure do. God got me. What's for me will never miss me. Yes. You got to learn as a woman to learn how to be alone. That means I need time for myself. I agree with that. That I agree with.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I think women do need to learn how to be alone. Yes. People need to learn how to be alone. But women too, though. Y'all can't be alone. I don't know how to be alone. Women, you know, women learn people. No I'm saying, but women don't, women don't know how to be alone.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Women love being alone. It be niggas that don't know how to be alone. Y'all know how to not be in relationships, but y'all do not know how to be alone. Thank you. There's two different things. It's always a bitch in that phone at all times. Women are go stints where there's like, they really just like,
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm, eat, pray, love. Like, women do shit like that. Like women do not do that. We're always praying and love. Yes, we do. But you're not practice celibency. Yes, we do. Not, no, yeah not.
Starting point is 00:48:33 What's the exact date on celibacy? Yeah, what's the number? What's the number that makes it? You want to know how long I've practiced. No, no, no, not you. I'm just saying how long. Like, what's super, if a guy, like, if a guy be like,
Starting point is 00:48:45 you all I ain't had sex in, if he celibate? I'm selling. What's the amount of... Salimacy is a choice. It don't matter the number. As long as you practice in it. It don't matter.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah, but I'm going to need to know like... A good... If you could go 30 days, it's like that you discipline yourself. Oh, 30 days and shit. But did you choose it? Celibacy means you chose that path, not just damn. I ran across no pussy in 30 days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's like I am choosing to not have sex for 30 days. I think it's all the choice because if I wanted to have sex, even if I don't have... I can go buy sex. he's not wrong and even and even with a phone not that there's something I practice
Starting point is 00:49:22 you don't even need to buy sex you could just find sex on your phone okay but whatever 30 days is cool I think in this era five days that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:49:30 like you know so 30 days is like okay I could applaud to it because 30 days and shit it's not for me that's easy
Starting point is 00:49:38 that's a day that's one day for me the longest I think I went almost a year one time you keep telling us that and number
Starting point is 00:49:45 just keep growing. I went from six months. That's kind of a year. No, it was almost a year. Seriously. I went to. You were two years, no sex? For sure.
Starting point is 00:49:52 14 for me. Shit, two years no sex in the free world? Damn. In the free world? You weren't locked up? Yeah, but I didn't jail. Two years is, whoof, that's a long time. I mean, but you still don't feel like there's ever been a fumble, not based off your
Starting point is 00:50:06 person. I just based off, I don't know, maybe your work schedule, your world going on a 180 after everything popped. Like, I can see that being. difficult thing. No matter, even if you was talking to somebody before. For a person?
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah, in general. I've dealt with it. That's how I still got my person now. Okay. We work through it. That's what I'm saying. When it's for you, it's going to be there. Like,
Starting point is 00:50:29 you work through it. Do you think it's important to find somebody that kind of like understand your lifestyle because they're in the entertainment issue as well? It helps. It helps. I'm not going to lie with my situation.
Starting point is 00:50:43 It is helping. like we understand I get it he get it and we cool yeah yeah I've had both sides of that and I think they they have the same challenges in different ways because I appreciate the person that is in the same space I'm in and understands that part but that can get a little too fucking messy and weird yeah it's a little overlap on certain things certain people and then I've had the relationship that she had no idea who the fuck I was or what I do and I thought that was great but then you get to those points where it's like I have to record four episodes we got to go do this this this this and they don't understand have no idea what that means like wait this is work I'm like yeah
Starting point is 00:51:21 this is actual work it depends on the partner I was in therapy once she said he was working I was like I was working yeah I was working who's really working see when that's your person they are willing to sit there and take the time to figure it out mm-hmm I'm saying um trust is a big thing too but I have no trust is nothing we don't have to get into two details of of like who they are but are they from like at least the tri-state area because mall and I'm out of town with it baby so that's that's my
Starting point is 00:51:50 thing so table it'd be like that listen every time see you're not on the inside of the joke low you don't know what's going on right now you see over there popping it you see over there popping it too much sometimes you gotta go out of town
Starting point is 00:52:05 sometimes you got to go out of town every time every time I do that I come right back home though like all my long-term relationships is women from the five births. But that's because New York women are the best women. Exactly. I know. That goes without saying. I don't know about that. I've went, I've went OT for it
Starting point is 00:52:20 and yeah, it's cool for a little while, but they just not from New York. I think I went somewhere maybe kind of crazy. I'm in Cleveland with it. Cleveland. Oh, shit. Dane Visibon? Shit, LeBron left Cleveland. He took his talents.
Starting point is 00:52:35 He was a lot of. And Maupu did too. Cleveland? He's no jacket, of course. Damn. But I'm just saying, like, I went out of town with it. But I'm a female where when I was growing up, I had a boyfriend in high school,
Starting point is 00:52:48 and we did not go to the same school. Okay, but like he went to Boys and Girls High and you went to Brooklyn Tech? I was going to Boys. I was going to Boys and Girls. That was a guess. I went to the hall. Nailed that.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Yeah, I went to the hall. Okay. We ain't got to talk about like. I mean, I loved the high school. But like, you're saying. He's not that hot to react to tell him. No, please. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:53:09 But like how far was the distance? It was in Brooklyn though. Because that's different between New York and Cleveland. What you, oh, I mean, I was, I'm a kid, man. That's all. Like, what you told? I was a kid back in. No, that's a real thing, though, because I remember once I had a crush on a girl
Starting point is 00:53:25 and then she transferred schools and it broke my heart. And then when I got old, I realized she just moved to Queens. I could have still saw that girl. Bronx to Queens is the longest relationship. Brooklyn and Brooklyn is not, unless you're in like cheap's head bay. Like, you're not, that's not a long distance relationship. Depending on where you are in Brooklyn. Bettside to Fort Green is not a long.
Starting point is 00:53:44 No, that's not a long-term relationship. But the Bronx or Queens, that's long distance. How did you manage that? If I got to take three trains to see, Shorty, come on, fan, what are we doing? And them niggas don't like us. So I'm going through math. It's like a video game.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I got to go through mad. I got to pick up food on the way. I got mad shit. I got to do. I feel you, man. And you're a kid, man. You don't got, you know what I'm saying? No, it's no fair.
Starting point is 00:54:05 You on feet. You don't got money for the fair. real you hopping out of cabs like you like you sometimes you just want to walk across the street or go next door or something yeah so no i agree with you it's definitely easier wearing queens was she was it then to dollar cab or a dollar van no i just took the uh the f train the parsons i remember that was the stop parsons okay he reminiscing yeah she was in jama state she had a little little money no no no she wasn't she was down the hill no yeah she was on the block she was on the block It was shit going on outside her building for sure, definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:42 But yeah, you don't, like, it's like, where you shit, you don't sleep at, right? Like, that's, I mean, yeah, you can. That sounds good in theory, but, yeah. No, I definitely, I definitely, I definitely, I look at it. That's how I look at it. Like, listen, when I'm home, I'm focused, I'm trying to get to it. You know what I'm saying? I'm a hustler when I'm home.
Starting point is 00:55:06 And then I need, when I want to step away. it's a whole new world for me. I want to step away. What's the biggest misconception about you that you've heard, like people say or think about you? Like people be thinking that I purposely want to be aggressive
Starting point is 00:55:22 or I want to be ginkster or something like that. Like if that lifestyle for me is something that I crave. Like I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. I had no choice, but to be tough, like this and I'm small
Starting point is 00:55:40 with no siblings without what you you're the only child yes oh you had to fight fight you know what I'm saying so I had to go out there and be like yeah this bro right here this is right here
Starting point is 00:55:54 and they got me good you know but me my I was straight like I ain't really have no crazy problems but I'm out there fighting for my life as an only child I'm glad that you prospered I didn't you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:56:07 I got beat up a lot If anything, people wanted to protect me because I was so small. I was down on earth. I ain't take no shit from nobody. But it was like, I ain't have no choice but to be this person. Especially when you small, like people play with you more. They play with you. From a young age, you learn that like you have to project out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:29 People call it Napoleon syndrome, but whatever. Like, no, like I'm going to be heard. You're not going to play with me. I don't care how small I am. Don't play with it. Short women, I get it. Short women. That's why I'm like, don't play with it.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Don't judge a book by his cover. I'm not saying that I'm trying to be on that. But if I got to be on that, then it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Have you met, because obviously you get the comparisons a lot. And we've obviously talked about just the tone of Fox. Have you met Fox yet? Have you had a chance to kick with it?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Not in person, but we don't text and stuff like that. Yeah. How much of a, because obviously being from Brooklyn, how much of an influence was Foxy for you, though? Fox and Kim. like you gotta know those two women in rap like you have to know i'm from the star as well as them too so it was like right in your face and then i feel like those are two women in the game that are very much Brooklyn they see when people used to be like oh why you sew this and why you
Starting point is 00:57:28 so that you're aggressive or whatever the case may be i i start looking at them and saying well I'm a Brooklyn girl just like them. So why I'm getting punched on? Kim had her aggressive moments in her music too. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people forget about Little Kim, but she had she had aggressive, aggressive energy and a lot of her music.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, so it's like why I'm getting punched on? Like, I thought women in Brooklyn was rar. That's what I am, raw. But when you go to, so other parts of the country aren't used to New York women. New York niggas are used to New York women. But other people on the other side, like, they're not used to that. And they're like, why you're so aggressive?
Starting point is 00:58:08 It's like, well, you're not aggressive. Is there a New York female rapper that's not? Yes, there's a couple of them. Yeah, of course. I'm talking about like more on the legendary set. Nikki is aggressive. Remy is aggressive. Well, Nikki, Nikki, she had songs.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Nikki has her pop shit. Don't me wrong. The tone, her tone is a. But Nikki gets, like, Nikki started out aggressive. Yes. On the DVDs, Nikki was aggressive. that wasn't. No, no, definitely. That's why she has a moment. But then Nikki also ushered in the whole doll thing. Mm-hmm. So was still feminine. Yeah, but I mean, even Kim, to your point, Kim had her aggressive time, but Kim was feminine. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Super feminine. Fox was feminine.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Fox's tone was just so different. Her tone was aggressive. Yeah. But what she was saying was very feminine. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But see, me, I was a tomboy. So when I get aggressive, I'm like one of the bros. I ain't going front. I'm like a little. I'm like a little. I'm like a little. I'm like a little. I'm like a little. I'm. I'm of DMX and sodomy and something. But, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, as I get older, I will become the woman that I need to be.
Starting point is 00:59:15 This is the process. Like, y'all looking at an artist that's starting from the very beginning. Yeah. I don't think, you know, social media, like today's world, social media, you get to see everything in detail. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:59:28 The entire process. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like people just didn't that when the Brooklyn girls start off, this is her first stop. Yeah. You said something earlier about when Don't Play What it came out and then it taken off the success of it
Starting point is 00:59:43 and that you kind of had to like get in that mode of like, you know, basically being able to handle the success of the record taking off and you wasn't, you say you weren't ready for that. What is it, what do you mean by that? Like you weren't expecting it to be as big as it was. And then now obviously you're not home, you're on the road, you're doing shows, you're doing, you know, all of these.
Starting point is 01:00:04 of these things. Do you think that that was something that helped you now with this album, with this project coming out now? Is that something that you're in the back of my mind? Like, okay, I got to be ready for anything. Because at any point of time, shit clicks and I got to be on the road for however many days out of the year. Yeah, but see, I'm a hard worker.
Starting point is 01:00:26 That's the thing. Like, I come from a hardworking mom, too. So I'm not scared of the work. Shout out to my moms. I like you, ma'am. The work is not the part. for me. I work hard. It's learning how to work smart. It's learning how to work and still be yourself and when you got to tell somebody no, you know how to say it without just saying
Starting point is 01:00:48 yes all the time because you're going to lose yourself. So now with the success going as is going, I couldn't feel it because I was living in a moment for everybody else and not me. But now I look back and I could see it. Like, that's like my mom's, like, if I'm having an interview, my mom's could look and say, well, something was bothering you, you're all right? Like, I could see it. So now I look back on the work that I put out and I could see it. I'm like, oh, I was lost.
Starting point is 01:01:19 So I fixed up. Yeah. I mean, that's good that you could recognize it, though. Yeah. Because most people, it, again, takes them years to even recognize that type of shit. Yeah. You just go through some hard times, man. Like when you by yourself,
Starting point is 01:01:33 dealing with problems by yourself. Hey, only child vibes. I'm with you. You wouldn't even know. Oh, you're the only child. Yeah. He has 17 siblings. And they're all famous.
Starting point is 01:01:44 17. It's not seven, it's 11, but still the same. Who's counting after 10, right? Who counted? Joshua voicemails? So on our show, we have our fans call in. They tell us stories.
Starting point is 01:01:57 They ask for advice. It's just a voicemail segment, which we want to include you in. You've got mail. What's up, guys? I hope that you're all having a blessed winter, cold, wet, whatever, hopefully sunny day. But I have a predicament that I think you guys would be the best people to help me get through. I had my soul stolen by a woman from the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I need y'all to let me know how I'm posting. get it back. And now I know what I say I have my phone story. It may paint an image that I'm talking to you know that gawk gau, whatever, not. That's not what I'm talking about. What I mean is I fucked with a shoddy from the Bronx
Starting point is 01:02:47 and she like, like ever since I fucked with her and then, you know, it fell through, she curbed me, whatever. I just, I can't like no bitches no more. Like I apologize. I ain't mean to say bitches. They're not bitches. I ain't say that. I ain't calling
Starting point is 01:03:05 bitches. But I just can't like bitches no more. And I'm like, how do you, how do you get your soul? Like, like, I feel like with her left a piece of myself. You know what I mean? Like, I just can't.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Like, I need, I need, I need you guys' assistant. How do I recover from this? How do I get back to the me that existed before I fucked with a woman for the box? just say you gay well wait hold on
Starting point is 01:03:36 did he did they hook up like did they fuck with each other I think so seems like he he said she curved him and so I'm like
Starting point is 01:03:42 yeah no I think I think he got the top and she left but it was the greatest that he ever had and now he can't even see fucking colors the same way
Starting point is 01:03:50 yeah he got one at old yeah he had a prom eater and she went crazy on them she gave him that you know
Starting point is 01:03:56 when you go to the car wash and they ask you if you want your undercarriage yeah yeah they paint the tire shit too She gave him all of that and didn't curve them.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Yeah, that'll fuck you up. That'll throw you off because now you, now you're wondering and trying, like, what happened. Like, why? He needs some closure. Yeah, he want closure. He, well, he won't. He won't her. Yeah, he won't.
Starting point is 01:04:16 But he want to know why. Like, she curved him. I don't, he didn't say why she curved him, but that's probably what it was. He doesn't care why it happened. He just wants that neck again. It was never just about neck. Nah, he want to. He like her.
Starting point is 01:04:30 He don't want nobody else to have. He fucked up about her. Yeah, he fucked up. It'd be like that. It'd be like that. He don't want nobody else to have a ready. Yeah, but why do you think that? Because she was a great listener or?
Starting point is 01:04:40 I could have that. He could just like her personality, Rory. No, I'm on that type of side, but that's not what I heard in that voicemail. Yeah, I don't get that from this gentleman. That's not the vibe I caught there. I don't know. He was so in love with her person. Maybe the windshield wipers.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah. That's what gave it away. Yeah. It's a rainy day. He's going to do it. It's raining. It's raining. When it's raining.
Starting point is 01:04:59 It's raining. Wipers on double. He's answering the phone. Yeah, he's going through it. So what is you guys advice for him to get over her? Oh, you got to block that number, block the IG and just go find something else. You're never going to get that back. Yeah, you got to just.
Starting point is 01:05:11 It's over. But he said he don't. He can't like other women. So that's the problem that you got to get over is the humble, like. That means he feel like she bad. She's the baddest. Yeah. And now he comparing everybody to her, so now he don't like nobody.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I feel like he hasn't gone out there to see that, though. I think he has been holding back because he thinks she's that. he's putting her up on a pedestal that maybe she doesn't like belong on. He should go out there and go find another woman. Yeah. We know you're from the Bronx, Josh. That's because he's sleeping on the woman in the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:05:44 He's trying to like, he, he came through like, yeah, I'm him. And then she said, whang, bang, bang. We thought it was a cake wall. Out of here. She threw him off. She threw it back and looked at him. She threw it off. They do that.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I'm sorry, baby. My bad. I had a flag. I'm sorry. Be respectful. I'm so sorry. Be respectful. No, I'm sorry, I'm just saying, I know.
Starting point is 01:06:02 I thought he's being really respectful. That's a really respectable move. I know what he's going through. Like, she turned him out. She turned him out. Like, the sex was great. Do we think that he was parked outside her apartment? When you got the windshield wipers going like that, part of me felt like he recorded that voicemail outside her crew.
Starting point is 01:06:20 He is. He also had to build him for sure. Standing him looking out my window. That's definitely what he was doing. He was definitely right up the block, right by the train. know what trains you take. He was right by the steps. You know, you come down to steps.
Starting point is 01:06:34 He's going to ask him if he needed a ride. Because it's raining too. Like, oh. Raining. I didn't even know this was the time you was walking outside, but I'll drive you. Yeah, you just got to get back out there, man. You're going to meet somebody else and then, you know, that girl's going to be a after. You always love the next person more than you love the last.
Starting point is 01:06:48 That's all. I don't know about that. Men don't feel that way women do. Y'all always love the next. We love the next. We love the next thing. We'd be like, oh, my God, I'm so heartbroken. and then the next one we'd be like, oh my God, I love you way more than I loved him.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That's because you don't know his shit. Every time. Because y'all don't know anything about that, man. I'm done with love. I'm like, oh, my God, I've never loved. I love you way more than the last three, niggins. But y'all don't feel like that. And then you leave him and spin the block back. The bitch that broke your heart at 28, y'all be down bad about her for the rest of your lives.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Me? I don't even remember who I dated at 28. Well, you 48, so. Well, I hope my man ain't talk about some shit. Exactly. So I hope that ain't true It's definitely not true Because I'm gonna make a call after this
Starting point is 01:07:31 No let me see Home happy I'm fucking up I'm mad this one He's gonna call He don't even know what's going Like what I'm telling what you're telling What you're telling what you're talking about? Who you're dating when you was 28?
Starting point is 01:07:40 What the fuck you're talking about? I don't know I don't remember that bro I've never even been 28 Yeah It was 27 and 29 I went to 29 Like I didn't even exist
Starting point is 01:07:49 Oh man That would be funny though If he was day and Lola And you pissed her off And she like literally put on Don't play with it In the Chris In the crib, like you, you in the bathroom?
Starting point is 01:07:59 You just hear that base. I should have done it from the ghetto. I should have knew that shit. Why my mother? Yeah. Yo, date. Because I'd be scared of my girl threw that record on if I'd fucked up.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Imagine if you had the real artist to wrap that to you. Yo, dating a rapper got to be crazy. Like, for a guy. Because if you, like, think about it. If we go, me and my girl going to something, she's a rapper. Can she bar you up? Yeah. How are you even dealing with that?
Starting point is 01:08:23 I've done it with R&B. I made sure those records didn't make the album, though. R&B is different. I'm talking about a woman that writes rives. Bar you up. Yeah, that's your girl. Y'all going through it. And you know us about you because she mentioned your hairline.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And you put out a crazy record and you got to like live in that record. Everywhere you go, they play in that shit. You go to the spot. And then when they get to the part that everybody love, the whole, the DJ dropped the beat. Yo, they're yelling bull-ass nigger in unison. But y'all good now, though. That was like six months ago y'all was going through that. Now y'all are good.
Starting point is 01:08:55 but you got to keep living that moment because it made for great music. And that's wild, man. I ain't gonna lie, that's crazy. Shout out to you. Or if that just triggers everything when you guys are good and you're sitting there like,
Starting point is 01:09:07 I'm sorry for playing with it. So we're just going to be battle rapping, I guess. Lola, we're not doing that. If you and your niggins start battle rapping, Lola, I'm telling you right, y'all. That's not a couple skill building. Nobody wants to hear that. That's how they make brunches together.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Now, but see, I'm not with that. Like, we, see, when I, argue it sound like I'm rapping so I already got it out. If we're going back and full, if I already got it out, you ain't going to hear it tonight on the record. See, that would be a problem for me if my girl could rap and we're arguing it and she says some shit and it sound like a bar. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:38 We got another problem. Now we all get on the artist. And then if he's an artist as well, he has the artist's brain. I pull out the voice no recorder when we arguing, just so we could use it later. You do that? I've done it before. Wow. With the arm.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Did you sign? Torres. What's your sign, Lola? Aquarius. I don't know what any of that means. Because you're a Libra. I'm a Libra. Oh, I fuck with Libras.
Starting point is 01:10:01 My mom's a Libra. October 2nd. Come on. What you? September 26. I don't know about you. Yeah. I'm a Libra.
Starting point is 01:10:09 No. I'm a Libra. I'm not still in the gang. I'm not gang. I'm not. Not you guys. Yeah. I'm Libra.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I don't know. September. But yeah, we're cool. All right, Lola. So I bet out. I bet coming out. Friday. Yes, Friday, November of 14th.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Dream night. support that. Yes. This is Brooklyn. This is New York City. Oh, I like how you said Brooklyn, son. This is Brooklyn. Nah, you said it better last time, but we're going to catch that.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Okay. I mean, I love, I love Brooklyn. Shout out to Brooklyn. Are we going to get a hometown show with this release? He might have to make me say some. Hold on. Hold on. If you cut the cameras, I'll let you know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:10:50 But I'm going to make it happen, though. I got to show love to the towns. You crazy? I know. I've never seen you. you perform live. I got to go. We gotta go. Yes, you know what? I got to catch a show. I bet. We're gonna tap in. I gotta see how I think, no, actually I think I was no, I think you came out on somebody's set. Did you come out on one of Kim sets before? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I saw you at Barclays, right?
Starting point is 01:11:11 No, no. Which time you did Barclays? That was, that was future. I was, I was at the Barclays. And Boogie brought me out at the Barclays. And I've been brought out the Barclays. As you should, you. As you should. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I think, no, I think it was the A Boogie one. I definitely saw you perform. Yeah, I saw you somewhere. It wasn't Barclays, though. I forgot who showed.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I've been to Madison Square, too. I'm saying, it's all shit. That's my whole stuff. Yo, one thing about Boogie, when Boogie come out, it's going to be Boogie and France. And if anybody come to New York, they bring Boogie out every time. How is they should? I've been at the Yankee Stadium, too. No, I see.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Wait, for the hip-hop 50 shit? Yeah, I was at that. I was dead. I was at that. I was dead when I saw her. Hip-a-Hip-Di. That was a great day. That was one of my favorite shows ever, period.
Starting point is 01:11:58 It was a hip-hop-a-fifty shit at Yankee Stadium. That was crazy. Yeah, it was a really, really fun time. It might have been L.A. It might have been L.A. I saw you. I can't remember who it was. Well, we're going to check you out. The next time you perform here, you don't got to say I'm Mike when it's going to be, but we'll be there.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Okay. Yeah, Lo, I'm pulling up. I need to see a full Lola Brook set. I need to see what you do with the stage. Yeah. I got y'all, man. Even if it's Brooklyn Tabernacle on a Friday night, we're out there. Brooklyn Tabernacle.
Starting point is 01:12:27 You wasn't outside. You don't remember them nights. I don't think that. What's that? It's a church. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:35 They turn church into a club on Friday nights, Brooklyn Tabernacle. You don't have never heard Brooklyn Tabernacle? No, it's a really good time. When I was finding myself, I went there a lot on Friday nights. Where is that? Like, at where? I was sort of downtownish. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:47 It did that? Yeah. Brooklyn is. Wow. Brooklyn BK. Ew. I didn't like that. I didn't like that.
Starting point is 01:12:57 No. I'd redo that one. I'm sorry. What's all to you, Lola. We appreciate you for pulling up. I bet available November 14th. Stream that, support that. This is New York City.
Starting point is 01:13:07 This is Brooklyn. Lola, we'll see you soon. I see y'all soon. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. That's Lola. Brooke. Oh, he did.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Oh, that now. That was not nice. You said just. I'm that nigga. He's, Meaning like, because they say he's... Cadence. I'm like, he's just ginger.
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