New Rory & MAL - Checking In With Ms. Pat

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Rory & Mal check in with Ms. Pat to talk her sitcom "The Ms. Pat Show" and BET show "Ms. Pat Settles It", how the LGBTQ community changed Atlanta, and Ms. Pat helps Rory overcome trauma from his childhood #volume All lines provided by hardrock.bet  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Volume. If you need a PR person, hire her. She doesn't know. Maybe she would not. If we're rolling. Oh, he's rolling. Come on. Get the mic.

If you need a PR person, get Pam. Shut up for Pam. Pam, man. No, and my issue is that it wasn't more than I. It was our producer. Yeah. We didn't meet Pam, Pam, wherever you are. You owe us something.

I like to collect. I like to collect the stuff. Yeah, that was paid to the wrong. collection agency. I spoke to Miss Pat herself, but she told me you were the person to see, so. Yeah, as Pam was like a dick, boy, I'd be like, Pam, how do you get me on these shit?

And this stuff, I'm, like, no offense, but I've never, I don't watch podcasts. Yeah, never heard so good. I love it. I love the fact that you have never heard of us. You know, when I walked in, I was like, okay, two white guys, here we go. Yeah.

She thought Pete was the other host, okay, yeah. First, she confused me with Peach, then thought it was me and Peach's show. Yeah, I just thought it with two white boys, one ginger, one white. Yeah, yeah. I'm very happy that you separated us. Yeah.

That makes you feel better. Yeah, I know about you ginger. Y'all burn. That's one white person you can't leave in and son. That's a woman going to turn into a chill chill. He just came over a cruise. I took that as the way that I was burning. I was like it happened once.

No. And how did Ms. Pat know about that? I know my STD. Some good old gunner real boy. Penicillin one week. That shit is gone. We are joined today by the talented, the funny comedian actress. Miss Pat, thank you for coming back today.

Welcome, welcome, welcome. And I love that you had to run around the hot-ass subway and then walk up the steps and then see us. So, Ms. Pat, they got you running you around today. They had you on the subway series. Yes. You had to walk up a whole bunch of... The going down the stairs was gross and nasty. But coming up, you know, I needed that, I needed that rail.

And so finally, they just, some white people just started helping me a step. My chest was burned. I was like, damn. when the last time I moved my legs, my thighs that much apart. I mean, everything was burning. My thighs, my vagina, my chest. That's because of the ginger. My booty.

Ain't got shit to do no difference. Those are muscles I don't use. Baby, I was so glad I had on two-panning lot of car. It was catching everything from front to back. They only helped you up the steps because it's an election week. That's the only time that they're... Oh, they need the black vote. Yeah.

Well, I don't live. here so it ain't going to work for me so miss pat they got you new york working yeah how's the city treat you how are you enjoying new york uh you new york is new york because you because rui said where you live you said Atlanta I would never live nowhere so it's Atlanta or nowhere this is a you know New York got grateful dirty city too many people I mean y'all bones be talking to everybody my bomb stay to they sell yeah or as a person you uh this later well Atlanta bums they live in the house with you like they usually staying out well that's my kids I'm talking about homeless people.

This lady walked up and started talking. I thought she was talking to me and me and Pam. And Pam were used to seeing these guys. I said, what you say, ma'am? She was like, don't talk to her. She's talking to herself. I thought she was talking to me. But you thought Pam booked you with that homeless person.

Yeah, she thought I was another show. Man, Pam. I'm thankful for Pam. But when I tell you, if you need a good PR person, Pam would do it for you. Yes, I'm sitting here with you guys. I was like, Pam, what the fuck is this? No, listen.

Last week, when they talked about it, told her she was coming by. I said, I get a chance to meet Ms. Pat. We've been seeing your clips all on Instagram going via. Very funny. But now we get to sit here and talk shit in person. Yeah, I like talking to show. I like to know the real Miss Pat. Yeah. I love talking. I'm sorry. I miss, thank you for an ungender white man. Yeah. We're helpful. When we're not burning in the sun or burning to you. You date black women. Oh, God. Miss Pat, you have no. That's all he dates. I can tell. You can tell when you can tell when you can tell what you can tell what they're in touch by vagina hair

that don't lay down. This dude got his shoes clean. White do have the nastiest shoes. I don't get fuck what they wear. This man socks match. Only a black woman can put that swag in a white. We clean y'all the fuck up. I'm telling you, I can tell you, I said, I said, I dress myself.

No, you don't. No, you don't. You don't dress yourself, Murray. Shut up. That's that black vagina brother. Because she was like, if you don't take out them ragged ass new balance, that's what she would say. Yeah.

But his wife, Jelel. He'll come out how any kind of. Which is a fact. It's a different. But you don't date black women, right? Yeah, he does. Oh, you do. Oh, he does.

Oh, he does. He love them. He love them. He's past. They must gain dress. But I can just tell. I can tell that he was into all culture. Oh, yeah.

So you're saying metaphorically, Lachianna laid, laid my fit out. You're saying a black woman laid my fit out today. No, I said a black woman gave you some pussy and gave you some swag. Yeah. She knocked the style into it. She knocked, knock the polo into me. No wait.

It makes you think when you go in the closet. You be like, I can't do that, I can't do that whack shit. Yeah. Because one thing about white people is they wear nasty shoes. They don't care. Black people, you're only way you're going to care someone with some nasty shoes and they're black, they ain't got no money. I mean, are they just homeless. Right.

But black people are that, you can see a man in a wheelchair, handicapped, being shot and can't move his feet, but his shoes is fresh as hell. Yeah. Am I'm lying? Yeah, that's a fair. So we keep clean. When I saw that your shoes were clean, I said. Oh, yeah. No wonder he'd be burning everybody.

He got some black ones. Not to be gay, but it was black men when I was a kid. I knew if I walked out of the fucking house. I wasn't making it to the end of the block. No. We were rolling shit. You had a black stepdaddy? I did not.

I'm sorry. I'm asking too many. I thought he beat the blackness in you. I'm sorry. Baby to my mother. I didn't know you like, sir. I love you too. Oh, shit.

I don't came in and started some bullshit. No, that's true. I love it. So you grew up in a black neighborhood. It was mixed, but yeah, it was a lot of black people. Yeah, you do that shit. They're going to wear your ass out. Yeah, I was trying to get to the industry

where the black women were where I could impress them. But it was mainly not to get clown the moment I stepped out the fuck. Especially when you had something fresh on, you thought she was killing it. Yeah. Let me turn around. Did you wear full boo? Of course. Oh, shit.

We were more of a South Pole family. He's deeper. He's deep into the culture. So you know that was for us by us. I thought that was subjective. It was not suggesting. Whatever the words you just said. It was for us, by us.

The hell are you doing with it on. Now, Ms. Pat, we was talking. You said you don't do, you haven't really focused on your podcast. No. Well, I do it every week. But you're so busy now. I'm busy. You all getting that money, Ms. Pat?

Well, I try to get all the money. I do. But TV came along and, you know, the tours and stuff picked up. So I just didn't have time. And plus my co-hosts is in Indiana. And so I moved to Atlanta, back to Atlanta where I was from. So it just put a big gap in now. And now it ain't as big as it used to be. But I do it. I always done it just for the fans. I want to stop it. But my fans like it. Yeah, but your podcast is, that could be like your, you know, where you really get your shit off and talk to your call. Yeah. Because I know, no, you talk shit. I know that. But I'm just saying

Like the podcast, because TV is, they kind of got a, it's very, it's a little strict. It's a little, they love Ms. Pat, but they got to keep Ms. Pat in this thing because it's like, we can't go too crazy, Ms. Pat. We got to keep it. This is television. The podcast, you can just. I can be free. Yes, I can.

You know, so you get a little pushback on some of the things I want to do on the Miss Pat show, Miss Pat Seltzerzerzer. But I'm free on the podcast, and that's why I keep it. And that's why I still tour. You notice a lot of comedians who get TV shows, they stop. tour. You know, because the money can be good, especially if you on network TV, I never stop touring because I don't ever want to depend on somebody to feed my family.

You can cut the lights off at the Miss Pat show or that court show at any time. I got to cut the lights off on this tour. I got to cut the lights off on the podcast. So it's what I like being in control of myself. I don't ever want to have to go beg anybody to do nothing. Oh, please don't cancel the show. Cancel the show. It's your show.

Right. You know, I'm there because you're paying me. Right. If you stop paying me, I ain't going to come. So, and that's why I continue to tour. Because I like, I just, I'm a person like, I don't like to be led. I like to lead. Right.

What's some of the wildest bits or premises that they said no to for the Ms. Paschow? They was, in the writer's room or execs was like, fuck no. We did a race episode about how the younger generation find everything to be racist or offensive. And back in the day, you know, people saying stuff. just went on about it, your grandmama and your mom and daddy. So the word japslap, B-T was, you ever heard the word japslap? Yeah. Where I didn't know that was a racist term until my husband told me,

because I grew up with a black mama every day. She said, I had japsed shit out of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we didn't know that. You know what? You know what my dad used to call pop quizzes? What? A jap test.

Oh, damn. But I didn't tell that was a racist term, so I wanted to put it over in the show. And they was like, no. No, because at the time, people was attacking Asian people. But I wanted to show, I wanted to put that word out there because I wanted people to know that it was a derogatory rur. What was crazy, the younger generation had never heard of the word. I'm like, we got to put Japsley.

What the hell is Japsle? And the people at BT Plus at the time was around my age, and they was like, you can't put it in. But they let me put in. What they let me put in? Chink. They let me use chink. They let you use chink but not a jack slap? Yes.

They had Shane Gillis on SNL for 24 hours and then they went through his podcast when he used chink and fired him right away. Yeah. How was that even possible? That's crazy. They let you get that off. But we didn't use it. We was just trying to say, the message we was saying is words that what the parents used to say, we can't say anymore. And a lot of times, parents don't know times have changed.

Yeah. So, you know, you might hear somebody say, call somebody, you know, the F word for a guy. person. When we said that back in the day, you can't say that today. Right. So that's what the whole episode was about. How much of the writing do you do on the show? I don't really, I do the ideals. So I do the stories for my life. And Jordanie Cooper take it to the right room. And I don't really write. I go in and tell stories. Okay. And then they create it. I'm not a, I guess you can say, I'm a creator. Okay.

I don't really put pen to paper. I can stand over your shoulder and tell you what I see. or tell you what's in my head. But I don't spell good enough to be writing shit. Yeah, I ain't going to be writing. But I tell you a good story. Right. That's what I do. Is there a story from Atlanta that you couldn't have put in the show,

that you knew out the gate after the Japslapp shit, that she was like, you know what, I'm going to keep this story for myself. And I won't even pitch it. Yeah, because the Japslapp didn't work. This story didn't work. Well, that didn't get in. But like I said, the other word did get in. No, because they pretty much, the show is based off my real life.

So 90% of that show is real. Okay. Things that happen to me or things that I know people have been through. So they pretty much let us do anything. I did an abortion episode where a middle-aged woman had an abortion without her husband consent because I wanted to tell the world it was my choice. Okay. It's my body.

Just because I'm married to you doesn't mean you have control over my body. Which, you know, I had a little pushback from the network. They said, well, who do that? I said, I know my friend did it. She didn't even tell her husband she was pregnant. Who won't have a baby in 40 years old? Right. And then you're a 90-year-old mama.

Don't nobody want that. I want to see the follow-up episode with the 90-year-old mother. That's the episode that I want to see. You know, they have a few pushback, but, you know, thank God this show is based off of me. So they do a lot of things. And I think I've set a tone of the type of comedian I am. I don't hold back. I like to push the envelope.

I like to go there. I like to say things other people thinking about saying, but too scared to say it. Right. So, you know, I think when people come to work with me, they know that they're going to get the real. Right. I don't, I don't, I hate people who talk like, oh, my God, girl, you're talking. Bish breed. Talk to me like you talk to your creditor.

Like your creditors? Yes. If you don't talk to your creditors and holding your bruff, don't talk to me holding your brough. Right. That's the fact. Who's some of your, uh, your comedic. Inspirations for your style of comedy. Who are some of the communities looking at?

Richard Pryorne, Burning Mac, Red Fox. Red Fox. Yes. Though, I was a big, when I first started doing comedy, everybody was like, girl, you got stories like Richard Pryor. So I didn't know Richard Pryor was a comedian. I thought he was just an actor because I seen him on TV. So I started to research him and buy his albums and listen to him.

And he told a lot of stories about growing up in a brothel. And I grew up in a looker house, a bootleg house. a bootleg house. Okay. So we kind of had similar lives. And we saw the same things in those types of houses. And so I just said, I said, you know what? I think I'm a storyteller.

Mm-hmm. So that's what I tell. I tell a lot of crazy stories on stage. Well, Richard Pry is one of the greatest. He is one of the greatest. For me, he's probably the greatest comedian. I would say he is the greatest comedian. Seeing what you saw in Atlanta growing up, what's the difference between that

Atlanta and this Atlanta right now? That Atlanta and this Atlanta? Yeah. It's a lot of gay people. Yeah. They everywhere. My daughter's gay, too. Your daughter's gay?

As hell. She's not like, it's not questionable. Yeah, she's like all the way gay. Yeah, she's a, but she's a girl. But is she like masculine? No, she's the girl. Okay, she's, but her girlfriend look like you. Okay.

All right. Yeah. How did this? She has to look out for young MA when she's in New York type. Yeah, my daughter love young M.A. Oh, she do? M.M.A. Young M.A.

Yeah, that girl. She loved that girl. Miss Fessing M&A. Feminine lesbians, young M.A. Is like they Brad Pitt. I'm telling you. Yeah. She's like, oh, I love.

Young M. M. M. That's the final boss of the. I'm like, she looked like the rest of you bitch. It's because she'll rap. Yeah. No. I have questions with this. How do you vet like the that your daughter brings?

That's a. Oh, we're not allowed to say? Yeah. Well, that's like, I mean, masculine. lesbian, no? You can't say. That's totally different. That's different

that. What's a d. No, masculine presenter, yeah. Okay. He's gay. What's a d'clock? I mean, not, no, he got the head from Pam. He not gay.

My hairstyle is gay. You know, Peach, Josh thought that was my hairstyle. I thought that was my hairstyle. You know, Pete. Josh. I thought that was my hairstylist. So I was like, what's a...

I didn't know that what you? He gave. Like, you just... Josh said, I am not getting it. I'm so sorry, Josh. I don't have on my glasses. I mean, he likes his own. You know, that is funny as fuck, man.

All right, so when I was growing up a... Was a masculine forward-facing lesbian. Like, she would... I got me forward-faced. Because she was facing me forward. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was looking at eyes. The fuck is a forward face.

What's the forward facing? Like, that's how you present yourself. Like, as a masculine lesbian is what I always thought of the was. Yeah. So I was right with the definition. So you're saying that's what your daughter likes. Yeah, my daughter likes. So how do you vet?

Would you vet that the same way you would if a man came in the house? I don't be vetting them. She don't keep. them long enough. She switched... Oh, stud! Oh, stud! That's the new word. Stud! Stud!

Yeah, please take guys. You have to be stud? Yeah. Stud, though? Just believe it. No, not studs. Stud's good. Okay.

The term is stud, right? Yeah. Okay. I thought it was derogatory. So, how do you do this again? All right, so when the stud comes in the house, how do you vet the stud? Is it the same way that you would vet maybe a man coming in the house? Well, just based off, like, how they...

We have rules because at first I was meet the girls and my daughter was just going through them. So if I don't want to meet your girl, and she got, she got to be in your life at least five years before I even lock a phone number in my phone. So this girl just got to the fifth Thanksgiving last year. So now I talk to her. Because now you talk to them. Yeah, because in the gay community, they turn over. They turn over. They move in right away.

They'll turn over a girlfriend and then that girl will be with the other girl and all along going vacation together. It's the weirdest thing. So I just got tired of my daughter bringing all these girls around and I just, I didn't deal with them. The third Thanksgiving, how did you feel? The third, you can't come to my house until you, we have a rule.

You cannot meet me until you five years in. I don't want to deal with you until we five years in. If I see you out, you can't go on vacation with us. I don't talk to you. I say, hey and buy, all of that. Because my daughter ain't going to be with them long. My daughter treat lesbianism like a buffering. fate.

Yeah. She's eating them. It's free. I mean, get my money's worth. Miss Pat, have you ever seen a stud funeral? Like a stud in the casket? What the hell you? I said that. I said that like a year ago. I've never seen a stud in the casket.

That's what I think they turned the stone and they put them on top of the churches. I don't, I've never seen a stud in the casket. But a friend of mine told me that there's a father owns a funeral home. And most of the time, the family will dress them female presenting in the casket. I think that's what I'm saying That's what I said I said I don't know if they're happy about that But I've never seen a stud funeral

You know come to think of I ain't never seen no stud funeral either I'm trying to tell y'all They be turning them back against their wheel I'm gonna tell my daughter She better get her wheel together When he brought up this theory I wanted to argue with them

But then I started thinking I've never seen one either I've never seen a stud in the casket I've seen a stud in the casket Have you ever seen a gay man in the casket? Have ever seen a gay man in the casket? Yes Do they turn them back? Oh, they turn them over.

I'm sorry. They lay like this in the case. Oh, my God. We better not get in trouble. Oh, my God. Ms. Pat, your special on Netflix, y'all want to hear something crazy even though we heard some crazy shit.

Talk to us about doing a Netflix special. How big was that for you? That was big. That was my first special. I'm getting ready to shoot my second special on my own in February. But, yeah, it was really big. And I was finally happy that, you know, Netflix acknowledged me to give me a special.

So I was happy. And it would meant a lot because I wanted to cite produced it. And what's his name? The director. Robert Townsend. The Robert Townsend. Ooh, Lord, I love me. So Robert Towers.

Hollywood Shuffle? Oh, man. Legendary. Yes, yes. Yes, he directed it. Shout out to Robert. That's one of the, for me, I'm a little older than these guys. For me, Robert Towns and Keenan Avi Waynes, those were the ones that I kind of found, like, comedy and television.

When I was a kid, those are the two guys that I looked at all the time and watched whatever. It was a movie. Obviously, in living color to me is one of the greatest sitcom shows we ever had. But that's legendary that Robert Townsend directed at. A few years ago, another legendary comedian, Miss Monique, she came out and had some things to say about the pay that female comedians were receiving versus. some of the male comedians when it came to Netflix and things like that and their stand-up specials. How do you feel about that? And how do you feel out the landscape of like the disparate, the differences between the female comedians versus some of the male comedians where

you may be funnier than a lot of the male comedians. Well, pay is never equal in this country. No matter what job you have. He's either going to be a man make more than a woman or white people make more than black people. So it's never going to be equal. Don't play. Don't say. You guys found out about that? Yeah, we showed damn dead. Oh, we was keeping that a secret. Why you thought they're trying to get rid of DEI?

So, I mean, I understood her argument and some places I agree with her. But, you know, that was her fight. That was at the time that wasn't happening to me. But I'm glad she spoke up about it because this is an industry. If you let it walk over you, it would truly walk over you. You know, people tell them on the, oh, you shouldn't be talking about this. I say, if you feel like you're not being treated right, then speak up. Because if you don't speak up, you're going forever get stepped on.

That wasn't my fight. I haven't experienced that as far as I can think. Because if you come to me with a price, I'm going to come back to you and say, ask for this. Right. And keep asking for this. And I'm at a position now where, and I'm blessed where I can say, now I don't want to do that.

Right. It ain't about the money. I don't want to do that. And I say that all the time. Yeah. I just want to make clear, that's not Pam, right? No, that's not bad. That's not bad.

Thank God. Like it just took me a second. We were saying all that. She was on her phone. She hasn't been answering. She just wanted to make sure that that wasn't paying for everything that we just said. Because I thought she was emailing some HR company. She was quiet in the corner.

I just want to make sure that was not Pam. No, that's not bad. And we said that behind her back because I know she's not going to listen. Yes, you're going to listen. Pam is my PR person. That's my assistant. Of course, thank God. With Ms. Pat settles it.

That's out now when this comes up, right? Yes. What was your favorite case? Just like as a T. are obviously you don't have to give away everything. What was your favorite case going into this season? I think... Did you even settle it?

I think it was my kids. My kids ended up on there, yes. With the studs? No, no. It's my gay daughter and my fat son. And so my gay daughter took my son to the script club and he didn't have no money. So she gave him money to throw at the script.

And she wanted her money back $500. And he never paid back, which it happened for real. And they had been arguing about this money for over a year. And a case fell out. and they was like, do you have a case? And they told them, and they didn't even tell me they was going to be on the show. And they walk in, and I'm thinking like,

both of y'all owe me money. What the hell I'm going to look like give you some money? Right. And because I had just paid for my daughter teeth to get done. And she didn't pay me for that. And I'm always helping my son out. So I just threw the case out of it. Yeah.

No, but I would make the case with the, like, all right, you got the daughter, the teeth, give me some lipo. Who need lipo? Not. Fat son. No, he don't. He need a new joystick for his game. Do they have that surgery?

He's 40 years old and all he do and play the game. He said he wanted to be a screamer. I said, sir, you're 40 years old. Nobody wants to look at you. They're going to scream when they see your big black ass on this screaming system. He waits to he gets 40 years old. Kalkanette or Kassanet, whatever that little kid named him. He don't matter.

All these broke Negroes think they can get rich by streaming. he cornered the market y'all is over yeah you're gonna have to go do something else my son even tried to get on screaming with his shirt off and i'm strolling one now he had one might work he had two people looking at him me and somebody else got to stand out why you ain't posted two people look at it so i'm gonna have court like why you ain't post my link i'm killing them right take your fat ass bitch you start a fat shit i'm all in the comments right you ain't got no job your big black bitch i'm killing him he blocked me he blocks his only subscriber

his only subscriber his only self oh my god what was he streaming he was just playing he was playing video game with everybody else what

and everybody know him his mom mid-passing fuck out he got get out this game he need to go look for a job oh so they know that's your son well the people

on that yeah there's only two people yeah the people he was playing the game knew I knew he was my son oh them two tell everybody about him their mama

Oh, my God. How has BET treating you? How's the business over there? It's great. You know, it's great. I've been over there for five seasons, so it's been really good. I don't have any problem, but I don't have no problem to know where I go, because I speak up. Yeah.

What's the difference between the two shows? One is a sitcom and one is more like a reality. As far as like the process and how that works. Oh, it takes me two weeks to shoot Miss Pat Selders it, and it takes me two to three months to shoot the Miss Pat show because it's a sitcom in front of a live studio audience. Okay. Oh, we have to get, for the next season, we got to be in a live studio.

Yeah, we got to pull up. We got to pull up one of the two. You know what? It's like a backyard celebration. Yeah, no, that's why we got to get there. We have so much fun. We have, I mean, and the episodes will be writing, as you know,

that some are emotional, some is hilarious. We try to touch on all kinds of stuff. This season, we had an episode about immigration, which was very touching. And so, you know, we had all kind of things going on this year. So make sure y'all tune in when I give y'all the date of when Miss Pat's show is dropping. How did y'all take the immigration angle?

I don't want to give it away. I was hoping you with that. You ain't slick. You ain't slick. I'm not your baby mama. You ain't slim. I'm saying that the gays infiltrated Atlanta. That was the immigration.

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Oh. Yeah, I'm circumcised. Okay. You circumcised? He's Irish. I think that's part of it. Irish Catholic, yeah. Oh, yeah, they bite your skin off.

Yeah. At the church. Yeah. They cut our foreskin off and then they touch it. Pretty much. That's what the Irish Catholics do. You always see. You remember they bite you.

You remember that man? You remember that priest? I'm lying. He was circumcised. Which one? And he was put in his men. on them kids. You remember that? It was on YouTube. It was on YouTube.

He was putting his mouth on them. Yeah. There was that one, uh, shit, he was like Filipino. It was like a Buddhist priest though that was grabbing the kids' tongues and shit. Oh no, he said, uh, no, that was the, that was the dolly. That was a Dalai Lama. Yeah, he was grabbing the kid's tongue, but one on was like biting on them. Oh yeah, I didn't see that. Yeah.

I mean, that wasn't in my parish. Because you, you're Irish, right? I mean, you Catholic. Irish, I was raised Irish Catholic. Yeah, they do some weird things over at that church. See, they ain't like the black church. Somebody testified in the middle of the... Pastor! They back here fucking with these kids.

That's what happened at the black church. You might get touched one or two times, but somebody gonna tell on his ass. Well, they ain't gonna let it go on. And then you gotta be on all that medications. Because, you know, they don't put black kids on all that medication. We crew that shit right there and there.

Yeah, that's why you keep blinking your eye. Who touched you? You don't listen to the show. I don't listen to the show. You've been touched. Yeah. Why is it every time we get a comedian on here, they ask me. I knew.

Because you were blinking your eyes. I can tell you. I knew. Because he were blinking. You know, that's help. Y'all don't know. That's a sign that he needs some help. I thought it was because I had nice eyelashes.

No. When they be blinking like that, that means somebody messed up his equilibrium. His eyelashes didn't take off. Knock that shit right. Who touched you? I mean, they're dead now. Who taught you? You want to tell us government name?

No, who was it? Or her government name? It was a her. It was a man and a woman. It was a wild day. At the same time? No, it was different times. At the church?

No, it was never at the church. But they was affiliated for sure. Was they black or white? They was white, both. Was he a priest? No, they weren't like part of the church. They was in your neighborhood? Yeah.

Did you tell anybody? Years later. I didn't hold the audience. Oh, no, now we talk about it on the pot all the time. It's like a running joke. They just clown. How was you? Six.

This is going to not be a joke. Six and nine, I want to say. Six and nine? Yeah. Okay. It could be wrong with those. Did you tell how long? Did it go on for a while?

No, it was just, it was one and done. I wasn't that good. Oh. Well, you had to suck a dick. No, I didn't do that. Okay. Thank God. Thank God I held out.

What he may have batted my shit around? I'm just trying to get to the bottom of I'm trying to see why he be blinking. Ms. Pat is genuinely concerned but she not letting him answer. She just has another question. Because I can tell

he got child molestation eyes. Finally, everyone thinks this is me. Miss Pat, finally I'm being seen. I appreciate you. Because at one point, when I couldn't talk about, I bet too. So what do?

You just suck on you. I'm not going to like, getting the full details. I will say, though, once I started talking about it on the show, you felt bad. Yeah, for sure. I picked my pops up

in Staten Island, New York, and he had caught up on some episodes. He was like, he was touched? I was like, what fuck was you at? So did the lady? I've been trying to tell you this 30 fucking years.

Did the lady make you suck a titty? Or she did, too? Yeah. And I thought it was cool, but I felt uncomfortable. My God, man. You didn't eat it, bitch. No, I didn't.

I didn't. I'm sorry. This is hilarious. You might have to bleak head. I'm so sorry. I'm fine with keeping office, by the way. This is better than when I went to therapy. This is better.

She's genuinely concerned. I know. No, I know she cares. Because I was touched. So I'm just asking. And you know the great part about no matter what you've been through in life, when you can laugh about it. That means you have control of it.

Yeah. And I'm not trying to be a mean person, but I could tell something that happened to him because he, he don't have no controls on his eyelids. So I'm like, what is going on with him? No, you don't understand. I've been to years that every, this is the best I felt. Okay. Yes. She was like, oh, all right, I see it.

Yeah, because I was like, I think he's been molested. That's what I said to myself. And that's why I asked you, you know. But, I mean, you're over it. Now I'm over. Oh, yeah. I've been over. I mean, my mom

and barfrey molested me. I can't ride in El Camino thank God they don't make him no more. Yeah.

I went to you so fucking stupid he's just laughing at everything. No, but this is what they do to me we have IG clips of him laughing

and being touched. Like the fact that you just adding to it is making him laugh more. Because we're laughing together right? Yes. I can't ride it

on the community and fucking cause are spooky to me. you ever been molested in a one-seater? That bitch ain't got but one-seat You can't go nowhere You can hardly lay down I should have known

I had no choice I'm fucking wrong with him Yeah Most kids get molested in a pickup truck A two-seater A one-seater But I'm glad you're talking about it Oh yeah

I've been talking about it Yeah. I'm glad you didn't turn the other way. Oh, my God. No, I've been talking about it for years, and I ended up just a few years ago and going into couples therapy. And you know in therapy, that's like the first fucking question. Who was touched?

I was like, I'm trying to talk about this crazy bitch. I'm over that. Like, I don't care about what happened then. Can we please talk about what's going on now? So, no, I'm happy I can laugh about it. That was fucking allergic. Do that affect your relationships? Yeah, probably.

Do you ever do, do you ever in a sexual move? and then somehow that old or lady titty pop up in your head and you can't finish sucking the titty. Maybe. It wasn't an attractive titty for the flashes that I have during the entire thing. Was it a long titty? Was it a long titty?

Or short titty? Oh, no. They were. How was she? Oh, I would like nine. I would guess. If her titty were long, she had to be in her 40s. 40s for sure.

Yeah, because 30 titty still hold up. I mean, then there was one time. with a babysitter, but like I was an active participant. It would be technically molestation, but I was fine with it. The babysitter was white? Yes, she was white. Family member, too, but not like a director. You fuck your cousin?

No, I'm not fucked a cousin. You said it was a family member. But like, you know, like family, like neighborhood family, not like, not blood. Friend of the family. Where are you from? Queens. Oh, I didn't know they get down like that up here. Oh, for sure.

That's something like some Alabama shit, too, get it? I'm sorry. Maybe I thought it were Alabama because she's white. I had no idea. It was real. I'm sorry. She think Rory is like redneck white. This niggas from New York.

He's from the hood. You know, he's talking about cousins and long titties and crap pals. You know, I'm thinking of. You're not long titties and family friends. No, I'm just saying. It sounded like the same. South shit. No, not at all, but somebody we considered like family friend type shit.

But she was... Have you seen her? No, I haven't seen her in a long, long time. Oh, okay. I didn't even consider that me losing my virginity. Because I considered me losing my virginity when I was 14, because I was probably Who you lost it with? No wonder you like black pussy.

So much white pussy, they took your little thing from me. I've never even gone down that path now. Yeah, well, they all forced it on you, so it turned you off. And now that I think about it, like when I was growing up, the the nicest people to me were black women. This is actually more therapy than I think I've ever gotten. I've never even put those two and two together.

You can write me a check. You keep on someone how good this shit. Miss Pat settles it. Here you go. Oh, I never even put two and two together there. Yeah, so that's probably why you attracted to black people and black women because every time you were black people around when I was. No, I mean, you didn't tell them by it.

I was my man Alex was like, yo, you know what the fuck just happened? But black people didn't molest. you. No, I was never molested by a black person. Just a wild sentence to say. That's just a crazy sentence to say. I'm just saying, no black person never molested me. So that's why you, that's why you like black women because white women threw it on you. So you were like, you took my dick. Yeah, they took your dick. So you don't want no part of them. Hmm. Yeah. I never even put it. It's funny, but she makes a good point. Yeah. I'm not even joking around. That might be the most fair point.

Yeah. I never thought about it. Maybe they was right. I do have a fetish. Maybe. A fetish with what? That's always been a weird joke on Twitter. Which I don't. They say that he fetishizes black women.

But every time I brought up like how black women took care of me as a kid, like it's always, it's never been a sexual. What you mean they took care of you? You have a nanny? No. I've lived with the Jamaica family when I was fucking homeless. Oh, okay. Oh, you. Oh, you.

Oh, you one of them Monyms. You ain't no barren Trump, but you are Eminem. The next season for Ms. Patrick's settlement. After my shit got batted around, I had to get out the house. I had to run away. Oh, my God. I'm glad you're doing good. I really am.

I'm glad you're doing good, Rory. My eyes are still batting. I don't know if I am. Well, it's slowed down since we got that out. Yeah. No, I feel better now. I feel like I've been seen it. His eyes slowed down, Ms. Pat?

Yeah, he won't. I thought he had. to Rex earlier. I said, fuck wrong with your eyes. But I could tell that was trauma behind his people. Oh, shit. Yeah. Anyways. Miss Pat is fucking crazy. You weren't

one of the lucky ones. Oh, my God. What you mean? Lucky ones. I mean, he's the only one on the couch that has been molested. Yes, no. You haven't been molested? Got us to the top. Oh. Never. Okay. But I did read a story about It ain't fun. Well, no. I mean, you know, we're laughing

about it and that's great than we can. But no, it's nothing fun about that. But that is the greatest read. I think Rory has ever gotten in his life. I don't know how you figured all of that out just by him blinking his eyes. I'm a black mama. We know shit. You know how you bring a woman home with your mom and be like, hey, let me tell you, that's a hole right

down. Get that hole out of my house. A black mama can say, that bitch got an STD. We can tell you right out the fucking map. You, you ain't got anything right there. Yeah. I think that is something that I think protecting me growing up. Is that having a strong black mom.

Yeah. Definitely. Because my mother was white. That's why I was touched. You've met my mother a million times. I love you, mom. Great woman. I'm not trying to.

Well, let me say this. We're culturally different. So, when you're white, I think it's more free. You know, like, you don't have to have that talk. Nobody told you, don't you go out of that motherfucking door. When you go out of that door, you make, black kids go out of the door and they say, make sure your draws are clean in case you get hit by a car. Right.

We always were told that. I don't know why clean underwear is important. if a nigga don't drug you 30 miles down the street. Never mind, my leg is shattered. Yeah. When the EMT shows up. He's nasty astro. With black parents, I always had to have a conversation with their child.

And white parents have never had to have those conversations with the police. Don't do this. Don't do this. Look over your shoulder. Pay attention. So it's just different. It doesn't make your mama weak. It's just the things that you, that y'all had to endure, that we had to endure that y'all didn't have.

to endure. So your life was a little more like a flower. Who do what I want to do? Where he is, well, his mom said, let me talk to you, little John. You take your ass out of they, don't you look both way. Anybody touch your draws, you tell me, because I'm a killer nigger for sucking on you. So that's what a black parent tell me. Anybody touch you, I kill him. And when I first got married to my husband, I used to tell my daughter, because that's not his daddy. I said, let me tell you something. If this man ever touch you, I want you to know that I love, I love y'all, I love y'all, I love him. I kill his because I had been molest.

And every day I gave my kids a child molestation story on the way to school. I said, if he touched you, I would kill him. So finally, my daughter was in the eighth grade. She said, Mama, the man ain't going to touch me. It's been five years. And I stopped asking. But I had to let her know, you know, anybody touch you, especially I don't move this man into, moved up to the house with this man.

I know him, but you really never know a person. So that's the talk I had to have with my kids and my son. Me because people digging booties So I had to make sure Nobody were going to be digging in my sons Yeah, that is something that Like getting older Having talks with women

Like I never realized How many women actually experienced that In their home Yes And I don't think that's a racial thing at all I think that's across the board What I'm saying is I think with black families

We have the conversation more Where you know We used to sit the kids down and say whatever Where you know A lot of times with white people you like it don't exist to it is this. Yeah. I mean, I can only speak from my family and the more I learned once I

started having those conversations with my mom and what she went through, I was like, we allowed him around? Yes. So I see what you said. I'm not going to speak. I'm not speaking for all whites, but I can speak from my family in that regard. Once I learned more, I was like, why you let him... Well, see, he was there every holiday. And he did that. But the thing was...

Okay, so when you have a child molester in the family and your uncle is a child molest, so the black family will tell you, look here, your uncle will be touching kids. So don't go over that fucking with that nigga. Okay, stay away from Uncle John or Uncle whatever. We told that before we go to the barbecue. Can he come to the barbecue?

Yes. But everybody going to be watching his head. Everybody know what he do. And we're going to tell him kids, if he touch you, we're going to kill him. So all the kids know, he's a child molester. Chester, Chester, Chester the molester. So we stayed away from him. We put that on a house on our block.

I have no idea to this day. He never touched anybody in the neighbor. It was just the house that was, and everyone would say Chester Molester lives there. Yeah. I don't know who's just like a kid thing. That would definitely wear. Where is Chester the Molester?

I didn't know that was a universal thing. Yeah. Definitely. So I think that's a culture different. Is that African, black people say it out loud. And other cultures, but either way everybody's getting touched.

So, I mean, I think the verbal conversation we're having is not. I think every, molestation is in every race. Like, I was just talking about that movie on, what's the name of that movie? Adducted in plain sight. You ever seen that?

Yeah. That was the craziest shit. That man slept with the whole, family and kept kidnapping the daughter. You couldn't have had that chance in no black household. He'd have been fucked. Soon as he sucked the daddy penis, everybody would have killed him. You don't get those kind of chances in black community.

Yeah, that was a crazy shit. Outside of that being the sickest part of the entire premise, the fact that homie got on that camera and was like, he sucked my dick too. That was like the last episode. I was like, wait, you've been on this whole series. The whole time. It was like. Listen, I was sitting there watching that shit.

His wrist was that good on me too. I said. I couldn't resist. Is everybody this stupid in rural towns? This got to be the craziest shit ever. But those are the things that even though those neighbors knew it or they, some of the neighbors suspected it, nobody said it out loud. Nobody went over there and had a talk with that family.

In all neighborhoods, they would have knocked on the door and had a talk with the mom. Hey, he'd be touching kids. oh, he been to Pritzel. And I think it's, now, I think it's more prominent now in all communities because they have that predator watch. Predator app, yeah. You know, when I was living in Plainfield, Indiana, every time somebody moved into a neighborhood that had been the jail for molestation or rape, they got to register, yeah. Yeah, you had to register. So you would get an email, a child molester just moved three days, three those down.

But back in those days, you didn't have it so people didn't talk about it. But the black community always talked about it. I downloaded that app right when Amarra was born. Remember we were in the studio? And that shit, I was like, there's one walking down the street right now. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, he's en route.

Like, that shit will fuck you up with the amount that are around you. I think there's one in this building right now. But I will say this. I think back in some of our days, like our grandparents looked the other way. But, you know, if she had, for instance, they had a man that was taking care of him and they didn't want, they were to be rock. I would say in a black community, some people looked away. When I was born in 72, I think people started to speak out a little bit more.

Yeah. But, yeah. How much of your trauma do you turn into? All of it. All of it. I talk about any and everything that ever happened to me. If I can remember it, I try to talk about it. Because, you know, if it comes up, it always come up as pain.

Yeah. And my way of controlling it is to find the fun yet. it. Because if I don't, I could be somewhere sitting and crying about it. So I just told myself a long time ago, I can't change what people done to me. I can't change the family that I was born into. You know, I can't change, I can't change anything. The past is the past. But what I can do is I can learn how to take control of my life. So anything comes up that I can remember, I talk about it. And I've had my husband be like, why the hell do you tell these stories? They're horrific. And I say, they're funny to me.

And they are. Right. It took you a while to get to that place, though. Yes. Because, you know, one of the biggest thing I was embarrassed about is I was a teenage mom. I had two kids by a married man, 14 and 15, and he was in his 20s. And he was married. And so I didn't really realize that didn't happen.

I thought it happened to everybody, you know, because I'm from the inner city of Atlanta. I didn't really realize I had a messed up life until I started doing comedy. and I realized all black people wasn't raised like me because I would be telling these stories they'd be like, who the fuck raised you? And I'm looking, they got my skin color I'm like, y'all, y'all didn't go through

hell no. I went to college, what? I dropped that in eighth grade. So, you know, I had to learn just to accept, you know, the hand I was dealt and not cry about it. Because, you know, I can tell these stories

and I can tell them in a way we all be here crying. And then I can tell them. turn around and tell them in a way we all laughing. And I just chose to laugh with mine. Now, my sister been on Craig for over 30 years, and she's never got over some of the things that we've been through. So everybody deal with their pain the way they want to deal with it.

I just chose to laugh. You know, when I say I can't, my mom, my mom and my boyfriend would literally molest me and my sister at the same time, and his El Camino. And she never talks about it. I do. Right. And sometimes memories will come up. And I have to call my sister because she'll be in that memory.

And I said, May pop, do you remember this? And to make sure she, because she's a big liar, to make sure I'm just not making up things, I let her tell the story and see if the same story's in my head. Right. That's how I know it's really happened to me. Because when you've been traumatized and hurt, a lot of times your brain will lock stuff out. Right. You know, to keep you, to allow you to live, I believe.

And I think when it don't lock stuff out, That's how people go crazy. Yeah. So a lot of this stuff that happened to me is locked up in my head. And as I get older and things happen to me or sense, my brain will unlock them. Mm-hmm. And you start to remember. I start to remember.

And so I call somebody, if I got a family member in that thought, I say, hey, did this happen? Mm-hmm. Or tell me what you know about this. And I let them tell the story to make sure I'm not making up stuff. Right. Well, I mean, I'm glad that you were able to get past that and turn that into, you know, a way that we can all kind of laugh. Yes.

And, you know, even though it's just some very traumatic, very serious situations. But like you said, you choose how you want to heal and get over it and move on to live the rest of your life. I just want people to realize it's you can't change the past. Don't sit there and cry about it. Yeah. You know, we are all winners. All you got to do is just get up and do something about it.

And start with laughter, you know, just because you was an abuse relationship. or you being molester or whatever it might be. Don't let those things hold you down. Right. He never gave me that speech. Yeah, I never gave me. He just keeps making fun of it. I mean, that's my boy.

Y'all over. You know, the fact of I got hypersexualized in my 20s. I try to be telling like real facts and shit. Well, how do you get hypersexualizing your 20? What is that? I think that was a, I was just trying to fuck a bunch of bitches. And I think that was, I think that came from being molested. Yeah, I think I was hypersexualized as a kid.

Oh, you just want to have a lot of sex? Yeah. I think that was part of it. You packing like that? No, I'm burning like that. That's how the episode started. Miss Pat, tell them when they can find you at, Miss Pack. I ain't never seen the white boy just slain dick.

I'm sorry. I ain't never seen the white boy just be slanging things because your producer about to go crazy with all these bad words. Oh, no, no. It was just the, it's funny. He over that sweat. Oh, my God.

The D word. The D word is. We got that out of it. Please go to miss pat comedy.com and catch me on it and everything. Make sure you watch Ms. Pat Seltles it come on BET now. And Miss Pat, the Miss Pat show will be out soon, y'all. So just, hey, go join me on Instagram, Facebook and everything else. We're streaming Miss Pat all month.

We stream Miss Pat. That's what we're doing. Please stream Miss Pat. Y'all want to hear something crazy out on Netflix now? Yes, it's already out. Go stream that. And because our good friend Vince Stable is this new show, season two, is great to start. It's very important that we hit the like button at the end of it.

Yes. At the end of your special, make sure you hit the like button on. Y'all want to hear something crazy. Ms. Pat, thank you for coming through. Thank y'all for having me. It was a pleasure meeting you. You are fucking crazy, but I love it. I love it.

We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. That's Miss Pat. That nigger and ginger. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.

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