New Rory & MAL - Episode 100 | The Team Takes Made In America

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

HAPPY 100TH EPISODE! In a special recap, Rory & Mal and their team pod straight from Made In America's festival grounds... sponsored by Dusse. The guys sit down with Elliott Wilson to discuss his media career and to comprehend when Media became cool, Talk Detroit Drill with Babyface Ray, get B Dot & Elliott to finally define their relationship (and give advice about interviews), laugh until tears with 'Billie Eilish' rapper Armani White, talk Atlanta history with JID, geek out on cars with Larry June, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You may have seen her on. Beyonce's first album, she was in the background, doing her vocals. Was she born yet? Yes. She was absolutely born. She was just a twinkling. in her daddy's eye. We are with Damaris.

Demaris, how are you doing? I'm doing pretty good. Now, first of all, let me apologize because in my acting debut and my thespian of a piece of the great bishop, Tupac Shakur, yes. You caught a stray, and I just wanted to apologize.

I didn't, it was just acting, it was just energy. I didn't mean to, you don't come to you like that, you know? There was other people that caught strays. You haven't apologized. Well, they haven't been here. Well, Ed and I apologize.

I didn't mean to, I know you were scared. I'm so sorry. But I wanted to apologize. apologize to Maris because everybody was hitting like, damn, what the Maris do? And, you know, I just, I love you. It was people that had not seen juice before. Yeah, I'm sorry. But how are you doing? I'm doing pretty good.

You look great. What is this number you're wearing? Oh, wait. You ain't even peeped. I just peeped. You see what she did with the accent? Look at the accent. Oh, you see what she did with a teal. You see what she did with the teal? You're trying to go with the teal on the hill? I like it. Wait, I even peeped the hair with the maroon. It's something like.

You're not. It's always something like. Whenever you're my eyes and tell me it's something like. Whenever you match the stitching, it's like on some light. I didn't even think. I didn't even see that until you pointed it out. Fuck out of here. How you feeling?

Oh, your first made in America? It's hot. Is it your first one? Yeah, it's my first made in America. How are you feeling? Who you want to see? I really, really. Too bad you got to work.

Right. You won't see her. Not with that ass. No, I'm going to see Victoria Monet. Somebody else would be. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow.

That's tomorrow. Victoria and so. I know contractually, we're not. I know contractually we're not allowed to shit on Maine America, nor do I want to. But why is Victoria on at 3 o'clock? She probably had things to do and wants to get out of here. That's how it happens sometimes. Blago cannot because I got to catch the flight.

They want to get out of here. But yeah, I do want to see Victoria Monday. She's amazing. And Snow. And Flo Millie, actually. I really want to see Floom. Flores. Jasmine?

You don't want to see Jasmine? I've seen Jasmine like three times. I do want to see Jasmine again. But I'll be working, I think, when Jasmine's on. Okay. I think I'm going to end up missing Jasmine. I'm sad about that. But we're here.

We're going to try to run back and forth. And for those watching on video, it's just going to keep changing frames because we're trying to make this full episode, but also interview people. Yeah. So we're going to be potting. We'll be going back and forth. We had to turn the AC back on. So if the audio changed, I'm sorry.

We would either die of fucking heat exhaustion or not. We need that AC. And that's the only way you can get guests. Yeah. Hey, there's an AC in here. You want to talk to us? We are in an air stream. It's a nice setup that Doucetet gave us.

Mm-hmm. But we need the AC on. So we have to sacrifice some of the audio. We apologize in advance. but we can't be sitting in here like chicken breast. We can't do it. I'm fine. Out of everything, you said chicken bread.

You know when you put chicken breast in the oven, they start sweating. You know that. Side note, it's Edens' birthday this weekend. Yes. Feliz Cumblianos. It's his quincerea. Is it your quincereira's weekend? Eddell how old are you turning?

Oh, you're turning 28, right? His documents say 16. Yeah. Just seen the Little League World Series this past summer. He's got one who's 40. Yes. Yeah. Fucking Daniel Monte over here.

Daniel Monte. Oh, that's fucking hilarious. I love Eddie. So what are we doing for, uh, for Edna's birthday? Are we going to do a Philly thing? Should we do something in New York? Yeah, we all right yesterday. Yeah, we went out last night.

Oh, I went to bed at 10 p.m. How was the hookah lounge last night? The hookah lounge was, it was just young ratchets. Like young, young girls saying, saying, hey. Hey. And they were playing like, but you know. Yeah. Oh, if you don't like the ratchet, then it's not, it's not the right ratchet.

They were cute. The girls were just really young. Okay. Like 21-year-old girls twerking. Yeah. Scream a A. And Philly plays very, uh, Philly music. So it wasn't like dancing music.

It was like shoot people. A lot of aggressive snares. Okay. Yeah. You felt like they played a lot of, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gun you down. Spin around. It's fine.

Yep. We'll take, we'll take end to say less. And you can take a photo. in front of the neon sign. In front of the, what is it? The dragon that they have on the steps? Yeah. Yeah.

Say less. Another lap around the sun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ew. That's really nasty. Do you still do the Earth Day, birthday thing in the comments? That's your thing. What is this significance?

Is that like 5% or? So I need to do the knowledge. It's just that you're on Earth. So happy birth. You've been on Earth for however many years. Okay. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, the Earth has done a complete 360.

Yeah, around you. Yeah, around you. The world does revolve around. It does. Contrary the popular belief. So I'm thinking dinner. We could do dinner for Edin here. Yeah.

We'll have a... That's it. Taking somebody to Taco Bell for their birthday is absolutely terrorism. That's terrorism. So, Edon, do you want to do Italian, Mexican? Come on. You know what he wants to do. Italian.

Edon, you look like you could be Italian. Yeah, if he slicked his hair back and drove Ultima, he could definitely... Different hairstyle. Yeah. Different hairstyle. Do the chin strap with your beard? You be Italian. You got to wear jeans and a button-up shirt, though.

That's how you look Italian. Yeah, absolutely. And hard bottom shoes. With a terrible chain. Yep. You could definitely pass. For Guido? Yeah, absolutely.

A Guido. Is that a racist term? Guido, yeah. It might be. Guido is deaf. Yes. Well, it's not a turn of endearment. Guinea, Guido.

Yeah, it's all bad. Because what do they call Americans? Americans. No, what do Cubans call Americans? Gringos. No, that's what they call white people, period. Like, you're American, but you wouldn't be a gringo. I would be a gringo.

No, I think they would call me a gringo still. Really? Gringo is white people, for sure. You think that Cubans would call you America? No, definitely la negra. Yeah. Matter of fact, the only time I knew J. Electronica was talking about me when we were in Mexico was when I heard gringo.

It sparked my ears. It was like, oh, he's referring to me. Oh, you need me in the kitchen? I am the gringo. Yes, me. So who are you guys looking forward to interviewing? Not seeing interviewing. It's a good question.

I would love to sit with snow. Yeah. I would love to talk to snow because she doesn't do a lot. I don't see a lot of snow interviews. She doesn't. So I would love to sit and talk with her. Jid, just because the album and that's family. So that's really good.

I don't think he's going to talk to us. But Tori Moy has been one of my favorite artists for like a while. I also don't even know what to ask him. Yeah, I would know what to ask Toro. I feel like he would be offended, like, not offended, but would just be wondering why someone was asking questions in an interview. Yeah, Toro's one of those guys that operates, like, on his own time. Yeah. So it's kind of like, what do you ask him?

He's like, he's looking at you. Like, why are you talking to me? Like, this is not my talking hours. Yeah. Like, he's one of those guys. He looks like. Are you Rick. And then we could have him, we could have him, we could have him, like, yo, so, ain't no bitches out of here?

Like, what the, like, y'all, I had no idea. He was one of us. Like, I thought she was a mutant. I didn't know. But I've noticed that with a lot of, like, the fake. like the conscious rappers that like really be getting into deep shit, they'd be the biggest dirt bags. Oh,

1,000 percent. Like by far. Yeah, that's just the cover. They operate under those covers and wants the lady, get along with the ladies. Those are the ones that ends up on the fucking podium. I did not touch that woman. Yes, you did.

And I mean, I don't want to insult Kendrick's album because I'm glad he got through all the things he got through. But that album at the end of the day was like, yo, I was a woke rapper, but I was really texting every bitch that I'm... Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

he was talking all that shit on to Pimper Butterfly and was in every bitch's DMs I love what they have us They have us right in the artist village Artist Village kind of like right in the cut Kind of like yeah If you want to go talk to those guys

They're over there baking in the fucking aluminum can over there Somebody grab Elliot I want to have Pod Wars Oh yes And Ad Wars Yeah where's Elliot at man Can you have Elliot Julian

Let's get Elliot in here Right over there Let's get Elliot in here To talk a little bit Pod Wars You're gonna talk your shit that you were talking about, MMBDOT?

Yeah, they're not really friends. They're business partners. We don't like each other. Talking to Elliot, they did an ad read for us. They did. Did they? Yeah. What was it about?

So now I'm, I don't know whatever Stitcher sent them over as copy, but it did make me want to go a little, little harder on our ass, add a little more sauce to it. I didn't like that we were politically correct. I wanted to talk some more shit. Well, no, we kind of, we had fun with it. Did they, which one did they accept? Did they accept the one that we had? have fun with? I don't know.

Okay. I hope they kept that one. We have fun with that one. Well, yeah, I think we could have some fun conversation with Elliot about it. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, definitely. Is it out here? I do not. Well, they don't like each other. As to my theory. Can't wait to talk to him. It's funny seeing you and not your business

partner here. I have been to Made in America for the past fucking ten years and you haven't come with me once. You also weren't working for Made in America. All right. We are sitting with the legend. Good guy. Great. Elliot Wilson.

Mall Media. So, Elliot, first of all, man, congrats on rap radar coming back. Can you believe it, man? I'm so happy to see you guys back. We did an ad read for you guys. Yeah, how was that? Did you fuck it up?

Well, I'm sure. We have fun. We have fun with it. We don't think that we were sitting there talking all verbatim. No, no, no, no, no. No, we did one for y'all too. It's so funny they give you like that generic ad copy

and say you have your fun and shit. Yeah, we got to have fun with it, man. Like what? Mine was like, check out Mall and Rory's a reverent takes on pop culture and what's going on? irreverent. You're irreverent, Roy. Well, I want to say, I want to say, I don't think, if you're looking at your numbers,

I think they spiked because of the ad we did. Yeah. Not the Calid interview. It wasn't school. It wasn't us. You saw those numbers go crazy after our... Jamie Trump or R.Mall. I'm going to go with R aderee.

Our mid-Role. Definitely. How was that? Before we... Yo, what Mimiro B mafia? You like that? We are mid-Rolefia. Okay, cool.

I like it. I ride with that. Before we start talking shit, how was the news? fest of Jamie Fox Rab Radar because now you're you politicized an interview yeah

I went viral now you're on the the far left no that's wild you are contributing to the far left narrative I didn't get the crazy Trumpians in my mentions

I appreciate that though I didn't worry I help you out those are my people I'll send them a bottle send him a bottle send him a bottle send him a bottle do say

no but that was like the real like because here's the thing like when you think about it Like, you know, you remember like back in the day, more like, I don't know if Marl was down yet. When did you join the other shit, 2017, 2018? 16, 16. Okay, you was part of it too.

Okay. So remember 2015, 2017, you know, tax zones running around and like we have the podcast app. And it's like, we're looking at those charts and like, who's number one and we're showing each other. So it's early, early that podcast, early our shit. And like, so that's 2015 and 2017. And in 2017, I go to title. So now I'm behind a paywall. It's exclusive.

But now we're like back open platforms. everybody can listen on your favorite podcast app. So it's just crazy to be, like, accessible in that way. Like in this modern era where it is like, you know, the business is grown. Thanks to you guys in a major way also. Like, you know, like how much attention and like eyes and everything. So I'm learning the whole business because, you know, a lot of this is from the work that you guys did and continue to do. Yeah, no.

Having to go wide and not just do the exclusive thing is definitely a different approach. And I understood why you guys did the title thing, but I'm happy now. Yeah. So many of those interviews. Frank Ocean killed the exclusive for everything. No, he's definitely his fault. It's definitely his fault. He's him the fucking system.

Yeah. But I'm glad those, these types of interviews can be seen by everybody. I drove past Village Underground. Okay. Uh, radio. Oh, East Village. Oh, he's Village. Oh, he's really.

Yeah. I drove past the other day and I was like, yo, this was ahead of his time. Right. Like, just that location that set up like now. I had drink in there. Exactly. That's, no, trust me. That shit is like, it's a legendary.

It's a legendary. What is it? Legendary. What's, what's those little genies they used to put in the things? You put a quarter in it. and they talked to you. Oh, wow. That's circuses and shit.

That was Elliot. It's in a little glass box talking. You know, did it first. Well, shout out Peter Ferraro. Like, he's a dude who started, he don't get a lot of credit. Shout out to him. He actually used to sell,

he used to be an ad guy at the source. That's how I knew him. Okay. Source magazine ad dude, like who was the pioneer of that, like first getting the real major paper for that brand. So I ran it to him, Peter Farrow, and he's like, I'm doing this thing, EVR.

And really was Mark Ronson was the first that kind of really started making noise with that platform. I love it because you're literally on like the street. You're like on first and first. Right in. And I was like, you know, we all have those. We all grew up listening to High 97 and we all think we could be on a radio and have those dreams and shit.

And this gave me a chance to do it. And really, I can just really play two hours of what I wanted to play. It's obviously a precursor to a lot of the internet radio. Sure. Absolutely. But I was definitely ahead of the time. And I would get everybody to call in. Like, it was crazy.

It just was real organic and dope. And like, I mean, when the Drake thing happened, he came in the thing and it's like, is a shot of like Oliver in the back. And Oliver looks so like. mad to like why are we in this like fucking closet with Elliot like I don't understand we just went number one we should not be subjected to this shit

I love it's like looking all stone face I'm like yo trying to get Katie Kirk this morning and then I remember here's a gym for y'all so I'm doing the interview I'm doing these talk breaks with him trying to do like radio play the songs blah blah and then we go to like the third break and Drake goes you didn't ask me about

Chris Brown this is the height of their like he wanted to talk about it yeah he wanted to talk about it yeah And by the way, side note, I think Eric Adams is the only person that can get Whip and Greenhouse back open. I'm voting second term if he did. Eric Adams. You know, that's one part also. He's not, you know, these boring mall exclusives.

Oh, yeah. Okay. And I want to hear the Chris Brown. Drake had final approval of the interview, of course, because the big stars get final approval. For sure. So when he sent the shit back and it was two hours, 20 minutes, I was like, holy fucking shit. Like, it's perfect. Whatever he wants to do is.

No, he did cut small things. He did cut, like, the shit you worry about, like, is he talking about Kanye? You get a push it at the time. Okay. He cut out. why I said that he ruined club life. In New York City?

Yeah, he ruined Whip and I really got in his ass about how he ruined. I love that shit. That was not like last night life. You know, you guys know. Well, there's two people. He killed Greenhouse and Whip. Yeah.

Greenhouse and Whip was the last of the great club shit and that was because of Chris Brown and Drake. But I will say the real issue was Maw and his family with bottle service. Ruin the club 100%. There'd be no bottles to draw

if there was not bottle service. Look where we at today because you see, listen, do say, look, we're here. It's kind of peculiar. Maul had a theory and I had some pushback for it. But now that I see you are here solo, right? It's weird.

I thought you had a podcast partner. Where's B.D. Where's Brian B.D. Miller at? Who's Brian B.D. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. He was in the copy.

Y'all don't hang out. Y'all not fringe. I don't kick it. You're Roy, you hit them. This is credential work. You hit him? B.D. is at the gate.

Elliot is in here talking out. You know, I can't get it. It looks like I added another T to hit me with the one T. Oh, no. It makes me feel better. you don't have a picture. Yeah, I spelled Elliott Rice. D L, L, L, L, I.

How do you know not to spell your name right? Double T, I got her. No, look, me and B dot, man, like, Maul, you're funny. You started this shit. I appreciate you. I add to, man. What he was doing, I was like, Elliot is he didn't like this shit.

It was too many, congrats, congratulations. I like, y'all don't like each other. The whole friend, you know, the friend thing gets weird, right? To call somebody your friend. True. The thing, the ass is cracking up. Why are you crack? It's just weird, man, right?

How many friends do you have? Like, it's hard, right? That's a title, right? Get somebody a friend title? Yeah, it's hard. There's work, there's work, you know, there's friends and associates, and then there's friends and associates.

What's that viral clip? I saw, I don't even know who the person is. He's like, you know, everybody wants to have all these friends, like 20 friends and shit. He's like, give me free motherfuckers and I'll take over the world. Like, I don't need 20 friends.

Yeah. Everybody won't have so many friends. It's hard to, like, lean into saying we're friends because of the age difference and because when he goes, when he joins double Excel, it's like 2005. I'm like, I'm a grown-ass man.

He's a young dude. So it's like that difference of that. But yeah, we've grown to be friends, obviously. And there's a lot of love and respect there. But what I've always loved about beat eyes day, he's not a fucking yes man to me. Right. Like he respects me. But he thinks he's the shit too.

So, you know, somehow we make that work. He has his confidence. Now he's got a list that you all give a fuck about. I don't know why you gas this guy and get these lists. People go crazy every time he dropped that thing. Seriously, we got to join with the next episode of Lloyd Banks. And with interviewing Lloyd Banks and like towards the end, Banks just like gets on it about the list.

Like he just turns the whole shit to us. I was like, I was like, oh, these motherfuckers really care about this guy's list. Like, it's insane. It's insane, right? Rolling Stone, BDott. BDott, Strongestown Rolling Stone. What you care about his shit? Because BDod is actually in the culture and that's where it gets different.

Because with somebody else's Rolling Stone and, you know, I even say complex list. It's like, who's making this list? Do I know them? Can I trust their taste? I could disagree with BDot, but I respect his music taste and know that he takes the shit seriously. So that's why I don't mind when it just goes like, no, let's not kill this list. Let's always make it talking about. that era of personal branding is the authority.

And I leaned into that early with X-XL. And I didn't know I was doing that. Like, I created this YN persona, which allowed me to be fucking bold and, you know, yellow N-word doesn't care. And, like, he's willing to put it all in the line. And, like, you know, I'm going against real dudes. I'm going against all.

It's funny because I wasn't always just dis, it wasn't just me dissing those guys. I dissed everybody in the industry. Like, I called that everybody. Like, I was moving fearless and reckless and crazy because that's what I thought I had to do. And I was young and I was feeling myself, making money for the first time. So, you know, but people believe in YN

is personal brand behind a bigger brand. Yeah. And now the whole thing is about personal brands. They care about what Rory Mall, Elliot think, like, personal branding is really more important right now than like these, like, who is these brands? Like who is no shots at anybody, no who is complex at this point?

Right. Who is this one at this point? You know, they care about Rory Mall, Elliot Wilson, BDOT. Like, it's personal branding. So much that I think did come from podcasting and the visual aspect of podcasting. Because even when I would pick up,

like you had to be an actual like super, super nerd to like look who wrote this in double excel who wrote this in the source most people were picking up the source because there was an article about an artist they like and they read it and agree to disagree also now it's like your face is right on this camera and this is my opinion with my name above it with my name in the caption like yeah it becomes jit is ready hello sorry jit is ready sorry elli did you uh johnny crosser no but i want to can i get my shit off about how i made media cool media was never cool before me get your shit i was the first one and then drop the mic and walk out get your shit off elli no everybody know like

Maul's media now. It's like, media wasn't cool. Do we consider radio media? Media was like, no, but not journalism. It's corny-ass-haired. Like, you can't rap. Who are you to tell me my album's whack? Right.

I see your byline. I don't know what you look like, trying to find you in a club and put hands on you. Right. That was media. Like, that's where I come from. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like, now it's cool to be media. Charles Barclay's more known for media than even being. Absolutely. Like I saw the clips running. Like, he was a phenomenal basketball player. Yeah, a lot of people forget that. Charles Barclay was nice. Like, he was fucking great.

Like, one of my favorite players. But, like, he's a great media personality also. But it's like, it's crazy how media is now cool. You have to have a media company. And I love it. I feel like I was ahead of that curve of, like, I made you buy into the, like, the coolness that we X-Exel was cooler than the source. Yeah.

Like, that's why we had to win. It's like, they're not of us. They're not the culture. Like, they're not going to win. Like, I don't care if they're the Bible. It's over. Yeah. Well, I'm putting them out.

You did see the shit, too. Because I feel like, I feel like all the- It took me long, but I did it. You got about all the gangster rappers wanted to beat you up. Now, now they're media. Yeah. Like, Norrie is a sweetheart. But Noriego is not a sweetheart.

No. Okay, here's a good Jim Jones story. Jim Jones. There's a tape of Jim Jones. I think one of those like, remember everybody had the DVD shit? Like, we did you on DVD. And he's basically, I think he's yelling at Vanessa on the phone. He's talking about basically like he's mad.

We don't give him a cover. Yeah. Blah, you know, dreading and slap my coofy off, all that type of shit. You was on the coofy list? I was on the coofy list. No. You was on a coofy list? Definitely on the coofy list?

coofy list. Damn, I didn't know that. Jomo? Joe Mo. Jomo having to have you had a cooombo. Joe Moly. So I remember, like, I get fired, and then I'm in a fashion shit. Some kind of fashion thing. That's when he was running around with Dame. And remember when McCass was wearing the

Louis shit over there? Oh, the scarfs? Yeah. Scoffs. Yeah. So A rap money time. Yeah. And Jim goes, he sees me, he goes, he starts something. He goes, I should fuck you up right now, but, but. And then he goes nah, nah, nah. And then he had the on nan, nana. Yeah, I said two extra.

Look, well, he was branding himself in the same time. It's all branding. To his credit, Dame comes in. You know, Dave's the peacemaker like, yo, yo, yo, you're not going to do this here, blah, blah, blah, blah. Your niggas need to come to my office

the next morning, blah, blah, blah. So, nigga, Dame called a meeting, and me and Jim, like, school kids came to the office the next day, like 10 a.m. I like to do that. And basically just hammered the shit out and got, and got that day. We need more.

And me and me and gentlemen have been solid ever since. Did you talk to Banks about you in 50s history? Now, Banks didn't go there with me on any of that shit. Honestly, yeah. Do you think Banks was super aware of? I think so. But I think 50's disdain for you at one moment. Distain.

Trying to think of a nice way. I think the disdain grew at the end. I don't think the disdain was fully there during the height of their run. The disdain came kind of after the end. And you know, like what you don't realize is that besides the things that you know, I think the one way to look at is that, you know, 50 is the type of dude. He's a hustler. It's like, you can't make no money with me.

Fuck you. He's sitting on some songs, right? So what I'm off out of double Xcel is I create rap radar. Then you see he starts really pushing this is 50. So again, it's almost like we're being competitive with each other. It's like the fact that Paul Rosenberg was my partner. Yeah. He was the guy who had Eminem, whatever.

I think he just felt the way about that too. Like y'all niggas trying to, you know, level up on me. You know, it is what it is. I get it. Well, I'm glad nothing happened with that entire thing. Also, let's break it down really by thing. You notice, Roy, you more on that side of town with Queens, south side Jamaica.

I was north side. They usually don't get along with my side, which is like Long Island Sea. Well, South Side and North Side don't even get along. Ravenswood, Woodside. We don't get along. We different cats. Like, you think we're like Manhattan boys? I think that's like every city, every boroughs is kind of like that.

Yeah. You have your side of the city where you just like, oh, we don't really rock with. Like Queens, we all have that Queen's pride, but it's very different of being like where I'm from. Woodside and Southside are very different. Does Queens run podcasting? Hey, man. We run everything. That's Russell Simmons.

I don't know. He was talking to you and your friends. He was saying more. You should ask Russell Simmons. Have you talking to Russell? Since all the shit came out before. I want to know. Russell was never my man, though.

Like, you know, Russell started that wave. You know, it's funny. Russell's, remember what was that shitty at Hook.com? Remember that? It was in the 90s. So Russell was at the forefront is sort of like the beginning of kind of killing print journalism

because everybody got internet jobs back when we didn't know what to do with the internet. Right. So he used to pay journalists. He hired like, you know, Sunwin-Hans, who I work with, shout Dei Chuan Thomas, who's that vibe. And he basically, like, let's say he was making 75 a year as a journalist. Russell had the bag 150.

You do this internet shit. But it was ahead of his time. We didn't know about bandwidth, the power of the thing. If you look, all-deaf digital. The digital shit was crazy. So Russell, I think, when I think of Russ, I think of that part, too. Yeah. All-Def Digital did a lot of shit that is now prominent on the internet.

Of course, a lot of shit happened with Russ and other, there was other bigger websites. But All-Deft Digital really did do a lot of. And it started with a thing he had called hook.com. So that became, then I became all the digital. That's crazy. But Heather Kerber that shit. Who do you want to see and who don't you want to see?

No, I'm actually, you know, I'm really like a service fan where I'm really excited about the headliners. Like, I really like, I mean, I obviously love Tyler. He's a great guy. I want to see him live. And Bad Bunny, the phenomenon, I missed the whole Yankee Stadium. Because, you know, nobody's talking about that. I also say for the record, Roy Marshall, that I live in California.

No one wants to accept it. I left New York. Yeah. Everybody wants to accept it. Did a lot of people know that? They don't want to accept it, Ma. I've known you've been out for a while. Pete, I drove you up.

Did he help you pack? No, he ran you out like me. He ran me out of Queens. He ran me out of town. Elliot ran to L.A. No, so Bad Bunny. I want to see Bad Bunny. I heard about the Yankee Stadium stuff and, like, the phenomenon is bad Bunny.

Bad Bunny's running this whole music shit. Who's the one artist that you reached out to to sit down with that never responded? The funny thing is that a lot of, I was talking, I ran into Jinks. It's funny. I told Roy. I flew in wearing a Rory Mall hoodie You guys gave me a Rory Mall hoodie I like that hoodie, it's a good hoodie

Thank you. Pandemonium in TSA Sir, you don't need to take that off Yeah, yeah, yeah Straight to me. The Marriss gave it to me somebody getting a Rory Mall hoodie So I like my Rory Moll

And my wife approves the Rory Moll hoodie Because a lot of like A lot of promo shit she don't fuck with She calls it Rob McDaniel shit So it goes straight in the trash Yeah But that Rory Moll hoodie's kind of clean So I rock that

It's quality. I ran to Jinks You know we all know the brother Jinks Yeah But I was saying What was that what's the point I'm trying to make I forget the point I was trying to make. An artist that you reached out to that turned you down.

Oh, I was telling him I was I was lamenting to him about how, you know, now we're turning people down and want to get along, but people were fronting. Like, you know, I'm saying? Like in July when I'm trying to do bookings. Yeah. You know, people are kind of not getting back to me as hard. You know, get back in the game. You're not going to lift you up when you down.

You got to get hot again. So, you know, now that Jamie weren't viral, everybody pitching so. So, you know, he may not be as relevant anymore. And like, you know, he's in town. He's in town. He's in town. So just that industry shit, you know, I hate it. I hate that shit.

With the battle of who can talk to who first or who can talk to the most people that we all are. Who talks the best? Yeah, let's talk to each other wars. With that being so accessible in so many fucking podcasts and so many cameras, what's wrong with hip hop journalism right now as far as interviewing goes? Well, I could do a whole tutorial on how to interview. Like stop interrupting, motherfuckers. Everything doesn't have to be chronological in your conversation.

Yeah. I'm learning that. You guys are, he's not, he's not going to, what was the thing before Quinn Miller? That's journalism.

You snuck some other journalism shit on me. Drama, that's drama. It's brilliant. You did the journalism one-on-one where it's like, you talk to 50 cent that you got to talk to murdering.

Like you did the whole side. No, but that was, that was, I already DM Drake. Tell both sides. No, but the Quinn thing was,

Quinn was in the making for a while. I was back and forth with him for about over a year and a half. And he just wasn't, you know, he wasn't comfortable. He wasn't ready. He didn't really want to talk.

He saw the drama shit. He all of a sudden he got comfortable. Oh, no, he hit me as soon as it came out. He said, I'm ready. But that's the journalism. Like, people forget, like, everybody talks about when I did the M. M.J.50 cover. Yeah.

You know, two months later, I did Murner Rake. Yeah. And that was like, you know, and the Nescope was mad and we went to all that. But it's like, as the journalism thing is that, you have to tell both sides. Yeah, absolutely. Give everybody. Yeah. It's unfair to give drama this platform where he's going to show up to this level.

And the Quinn Miller want to speak and he got a relationship already. Right. It's almost unfair, you know, to not give him that platform. So, you know, I watch you. I think that's where certain journalism thinks. It think it's like it's embedded in some of the best moments of everything we do. But there just isn't this one standard anymore. You know what I mean?

I consider what you guys did with that journalism moments. But I feel like every interview, you know, we try to deliver that. So many journalists. And that's why I, outside of your work, do call you the goat. The fact that you've been able to keep this many industry relationships and never just take aside. is incredible. Because at this point, I feel like it's hard to do the drama

Quentin shit. Of course, that's a lower level. Yeah, yeah. But artists are so sensitive now, and I feel like social media has brought media and artists closer where people feel like their friends,

like they go to dinner and shit now. Yeah. So it's tough to be the objective, like, all right, well, I'm going to let the person you won't fuck with till they side. And now you become a bad friend. No, I think you just have to,

that's how people, they say things like that and say, well, you're cool with Jay-Z, you're not cool with 50 cent. Like, everything's black and white. It's not black and white. white and the biggest thing is when you're cool with somebody,

you guys know it's like you can't even more weight of that because when you do something they don't like, they feel like their friend betrayed them. But their man's turned on them like, what fuck, my nigga, like, blah, blah, blah. That's the energy towards you. So how you manage that, how you deal with the ups and downs of the relationship is what's important.

And the biggest thing, like we said earlier is like, you just got to get hot. You got to stay hot. Like, I always got to be in the flame. I got to stay hot. Like, I have my down times. But for the most part, you know, I don't really ever fall off. Yeah, I get low at times.

but I'm there. Like, I want to be in a winter circle. And, like, I feel like it's going to come around for me and ride those waves. And, like, and then the thing about this industry, like you said, even something like Jim Jones and Stiles P or these kind of guys that may want to put hands on me, you know, 20 years ago. Now you're like warriors. Like, you're still standing and I'm still standing. Yeah.

There's respect there as much men, like to survive in this business for people to still care about you. Like, this is my 30th summer. I've been in this 30 years. Like, I've been in terms of covering the culture, like reviewing Diamond D albums and chronic and then you and fucking Kooji rap on. election day in 1992 when Clinton beat Bush and shit. That's crazy.

I'm in this. So, like, you know, that's what it is. So, you know, I think the longevity is important. But you know what I mean? Like, sometimes I don't think longevity is respected, but it doesn't really get the, uh, the big numbers acclaimed. But I'm here to try to do both. I mean, I want to be double platinum and a legend and OG.

Hip hop in general, I feel like we don't respect longevity the way we should. Speaking of that, is it too soon for the Elliott Wilson doc? I don't know. Or has that even been a thought in your hand. Here's my Roy and all confession. Like I thought, okay, pandemic, yeah, slow down. I'm about to get these cast that biography about my life and tell them how it really goes down and who I am.

I struggle with that, honestly. Like, I struggle with figuring out how to really tell my story in a way that feels organic. It feels real. I haven't really landed on the, like, POV of it. But I'm getting there. You know, I want to do it. And it's going to be real.

It's going to be great when it happens. But I'm just not there yet. Do you enjoy living in New York or L.A. more? I felt like it was time for me to be in L.A. I'm still in New York. I feel like I move like a New Yorker. I'm the cat in California. If you see me, I'm walking on the street.

I'm that, I'm that crazy person. Walking down like Ocean Avenue and Santa Monica, like two miles. Yeah. You know, that's me. Say what's up. Right. You know, I'm saying. That's me.

Talk. You can speak. You know, dat me. Don't talk about me bad in your car. Yeah, yeah. Just, you know, pop out of the white. We're good. You know, but yeah, I feel like I carry a New York spirit.

I don't feel like a California person. But, you know, quality of life, my wife, it just felt right. But I'm excited now that, you know, part of what we do in, like, the idea of rap rate our podcast going back to that is that, you know, we saw like Jay Z in Malibu or Drake's House in Toronto or Will Smith and Budapest. Like, I like the idea like you guys are doing like, like, Rory and Ma are going to pop up or what kind of content they're going to give you, what city they're going to do. You guys are unpredictable too. And I like that. I feel like there's power in that. Like, so I like the idea now that the world's opening back up.

Yeah, that you can travel, right? So, like, I like Callie is my home base, but I love now that I can move around. And I want to go to New York several times a year. I want to hit Philly. I want to hit all these markets, Atlanta, Toronto. So, you know, I want to be mobile like that in the real way. Yeah, I think it makes for a better interview, too. Because so many artists used to the press run, let's walk into the radio studio,

let's go to the next room, same question. Yeah, yeah. It's different. I mean, I'm glad you guys were at Jay's house and wearing a trailer in Philly. But yeah, I see what you're trying to say. I think there'd be no ventilation there. I was kind of worried. No, we got the AC.

We got the AC. We got the AC. One final, though, it was Little Beach House, Malibu. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. We bit your style and went to a noble. Logic. I saw that.

Yeah, Jay Logic. About the same. J-Z logic. Equal. Yeah, same level. Is it J-Times fellas? I think it is. Yeah, absolutely.

Careful before you steal it. Did. Yeah. All right, we back with one of my favorite, oh, you want to sit down? Okay, so that's cool. We got the A-C-R. You ain't want to be out there.

We're with Babyface Ray Detroit's finest. Yeah, yeah. How you feeling, man? Made in America. I'm feeling good, man. My first made in America. Ready to hit the stage? Did you go on yet?

I won already. They've had us trapped in here. We can't see shit. Yeah, that's the fuck though. We're in here. We don't know who on stage. How was it? They had me performed as soon as the doze of them, but it's all good.

It was still crowded. They felt the energy, though. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I was just listening to the Goofies record with my man Digger D. Yeah. In the UK. Yeah. I like Digger.

I'm fucking with Digger. I'm happy that you reached out. How did that happen? Did he reach out to you or you reached out to him? I reached out to him. Oh, so you tuned in with Digger? Yeah, like the whole UK rap. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you think the Detroit? current Detroit sound kind of derives from UK drill at all? Yeah, Detroit, a whole different way. I'm probably the only care from the D that's understanding what's going on in the UK for real. Who's some of the artists from Detroit that you still keep in touch with,

that inspired you, that give you words and encouragement, that you probably collab with on some things? Pretty much, all, everybody, you know what I'm saying? I swear Vezo. Shout to Vezo. I'm like little bro to him, a Pizzi. I'm like little bro to him. GT, we all grew up together. Okay.

V's, Losanetti. It's a good energy coming out of Detroit right now. Yeah, yeah, baby, money, you can name it. Anybody that got something going right now, they know about Face for sure.

Yeah. You know, you was on... Are you still currently on tour? I know you had stopped out of New York. I'm off. I'm off. Yeah. That was crazy.

The New York show? It was crazy? Absolutely. Was you there? Absolutely. The New York show was crazy. Mm-hmm. I felt like that was my worst show.

Really? I wasn't expecting New York. to even show love. I didn't even think that was... Everybody keeps saying, but it was like, New York a tough crowd. I mean, maybe because we haven't seen New York react that way. Usually they're more even stagnant to Sydney like this looking up.

Like, New York crowds are usually... I was surprised to see that many people come out and then know Babyface Ray and know the lyrics. I was like, that was surprising with me. That was surprising for me. I can't lie because I was like... I ain't even on lie. I was feeling like New York when I was fucking with me.

I was telling Barreline. Like, man, I don't know. So that's one of the markets as rappers that y'all come to you. Like, man, we got to see what New York doing tonight if they fucking with us. It's fucked up that that's like a thing for artists in their mind Like going into New York Like I don't know what they're gonna do tonight And on top of that

Usually it just be people from Jersey, Long Island Like it don't even be New York a lot of times It's a whole different crowd I know you ought to start a New York to start a hip hop So it's like It's important for artists to go there and receive love Yeah for sure Going into next year

Because I know we just got the face deluxe in May So what's next for you? I got some new music coming out You know what I'm saying very soon I just need everybody to tune in there I'm trying to take it up a different level right now, you know what I'm saying? Sure.

So, yeah, I can respect to something. So were you able to connect with Kyle Anderson in New York? Who that? We played for the Grizzlies. Now he plays for what, Minnesota? Oh, yeah, he came to my show. Yeah, I got him tickets. He hit me with just super big fan of yours.

I wasn't sure if you guys got to connect. I'm a big fan of him. That's the slow motion guy with it. Yeah, slow moot. Yeah, I'm a big fan of him. I like sports. If I always thought myself, I went doing fashion music I've been trying to hoop. So it'd be crazy when a basketball player is cutting in my shows.

I'd be like, that's crazy. Yeah. Well, I definitely want to sit down with you. Like, maybe we come to Detroit. Yeah. And I want to do like a full piece with you because I think that you're one of those artists that's very special, especially coming out of Detroit. You got a lot of upside to you. And I know what you mean to this generation that's coming up now. So we definitely got to sit down with you away from Philly, away from, you know, just being at the festival and really sit down with baby face Ray and kick it in Detroit.

So we got to make that happen soon. I want that. Appreciate you for stopping by. Thank you, ma'am. My God, baby face Ray. I'm well rested, unlike the rest of you fucking Eden's. I was asleep before midnight. I'm well rested.

My phone. I woke up to about eight text messages. People wanted me to go out last night. What's not happening? Yeah. I think we might have walked. I don't have a step tracker, but we definitely got our 10,000 steps in yesterday.

Well, you're not really a walker. I mean, I'm a New Yorker, so I am a walker. But you're an Uber SUV type of person. I don't get 10,000 a day in, no. If I see something is 15 blocks away, I'll even go 20. I'm walking. It depends on what city I'm a walker. It depends on what city I'm in there.

And even when I got a car, I used to park in the garage, and then I would do my entire day either on the train or walking. Oh, no, that's normal New York or shit. Nobody's trying to drive and find parking on every block in New York. Because we walked, I had like the cool fit on yesterday with sneakers I liked. Well, I am standing with Ye. That's why I'm wearing these. I stand with Yeh. But I came more prepared today to be active.

Got to be active. Got to have the right shit on. We just saw Victoria Monet. We did. She looked great. She sounded great. I feel like they had her on too early. She got a lot of records, man.

Way too early. Yeah. I think they have Victoria on a little too early. But she was on the main stage. Yep. So that's a great look. The production was great. But like with her,

I would put her on way later on like the second biggest stage, the Liberty Joint. Yeah. Because she still has records that are like kind of intimate. Mm-hmm. She would have been perfect, like, second to last or last on the second Liberty stage. People don't know what we're talking about when we say Liberty. But somebody I was looking forward to seeing yesterday. Kodak, he had arrived late.

I saw his Instagram, he posted. He had arrived late, and he was saying that they didn't want to let him in because he was a little late, and he was upset about it because he really wanted to perform. Can we really, can I? Yes. Can I translate what Kodak said on his IG? We are going to Florida, by the way, so be careful. I'm a Kodak fan.

Okay, no, I know. That's what they usually say. Yeah, no, big step. Whenever Florida is on the Skellas on the Skellas on the Skellas? Yeah, no, for sure. I'm a Kodak fan, yeah. Tallahassee all the way down in Miami. Key West.

I love Key West. I get it. Yeah. Oh, go of Gators. Yeah. Florida State and the Cains. I love them all. He didn't go to college, but go ahead. What? He didn't. What?

But I understand Floridian talk. Basically what Kodak said. For those that don't know, Kodak did not perform in Maine America yesterday. According to reports, he was late. So he got on his IG and he said, hey, I was late. But y'all stood and let me on. that's bad business. Fuck y'all.

I mean. And then he threw, he threw Jay name in it. Like, Jay stopped him from getting in. Then he said, then he said he was going to cancel his whole tour because Live Nation did his tour and all their business is just bad, apparently. Because if you show up over 40 minutes late, they're supposed to change an entire festival for you.

Yeah. Yeah. They do bad business. That's the thing about it. Like, you know, artists got to remember with these parks and these permits, they have to be out. at a certain time. It's like 200 grand per minute you go over.

Yeah, so, I mean, if you're 40 minutes, and I think he was a little later than that. Yeah, he was more than that. I'm being nice by saying 40 minutes later. Yeah, so, I mean, it would have been dope to see Kodak and then Uzi. But Uzi's set was dope. Yeah, Uzi said was dope. And I'm not mad at, listen, artists end up, travel schedules are crazy.

People end up being late. It was him going on there and saying, y'all do bad business. If he would have got on there and be like, yo, I was late, like, sorry to the fans. It was out of my control. I would believe him. Accountability. But saying bad business and y'all don't know what y'all doing is fucking hilarious. And it was fucked up because a lot of the fans were disappointed because I was standing over there by the stage when he was supposed to go on and then they announced that he wasn't going to be performing.

I think he was probably one of the biggest polls for this weekend. Absolutely. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. I mean, of course there's Tyler and Bad Bunny, but what? Kodak would be Uzi, the third. Tyler, Bad Bunny and Uzi and then Kodat. I would say those would be the four, yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah, for fans, especially the young kids because the young crowd. I was definitely looking forward to seeing Kodak, huge fan of his. I wanted to see. I had never seen him live, so I was looking forward to that. Ouzi was good, though. I liked the Lamborghini's set was really dope. On stage and shit, the Mohawk and all that.

He sounded good. That was my first time, no, my second time seeing Uzi, but my first time seeing him in over probably five years. I think the last time I saw him was on that exact same stage years ago. Yeah. So his set was dope. We saw Tyler set last night. Yes.

Fire. His set was Amazing I missed the one of the garden Which pissed me off So I was happy to watch it And I watched it from a Farway distance

A great distance Yeah It is funny though to see And Tyler kind of touched on it on stage As far as His music has changed so drastically Yeah But Odd Future had such a core

Crazy fan base That it's so funny The people that may be going there To hear like Some beautiful R&B from Igor And then it's like Fuck Kill Shit, Suicide

Yeah side from his off the beginning of his catalog. So he's like, well, I guess I'll start with some old shit and see if you guys know any of this. And it went into Yonkers and it was like, this didn't sound like the last song. You know what's funny with like Tyler,

the way he talks to like his fans. Like he was like, let me hear y'all in this side. He's like, oh, y'all suck dick. I was like, how are you telling your fans because they're not loud enough that they suck dick? That's probably the best I've ever seen someone make a festival stage feel intimate. Because the way we know rappers and R&B singers that are funny,

and when they have intimate shows, they really be doing that type of shit and really interacting and, you know, talking to the crowd. Tyler really made that feel like that with fucking, I don't know, I've heard 50,000 people. Yeah. No, it looked great. I was looking at his setup and, you know, just the backdrop.

And, like, Tyler is, he's a bona fide superstar without a doubt. So we were arguing on the riser because that's just what old people that watch music festivals do from a distance. Drinks flowing, arguments happen in debates.

Yeah. And we were already debating to begin with. So once Tyler came on, it's like, well, let's debate more. Yeah. I was the youngest in the debate, and we all know that the certified three,

Cole, Kendrick, Drake, that we always argue. Future has been that fourth one. Tyler was sales, impact, show fashion numbers like what

how is Tyler not a candidate for that fourth I'm not saying he is number four why is he not in the conversation

before for some weird reason I think that a lot of people still don't categorize Tyler as

a rapper or like hip hop for whatever reason he wrapped he wrapped most of his set last night was most of the a lot of people

have a hard time looking at at Tyler as a rapper. Like Cole Rap. That's insane. Kendrick Rap. Like, you know what I mean? So it's like, I mean, I look at him as a rapper. But this is off what? His last album? Tyler is 1,000% of right. He may have had rap album of the year last year. Yeah. No, listen, I do. But, you know, it's just when you talk about those names, I don't think that people put Tyler in that. Even the old heads. And I think

a lot of it has to do with perception sometimes and not even numbers. Because of course, Future does good numbers. Don't get it twisted. Yeah. Tyler does better numbers than future. and sells out way crazier venues than future. Absolutely. But the old heads who would probably prefer Tyler's music and say Future's not a rapper, we're like, nah, Future got that four spot. He's Tyler's not, he's not hip hop. I'm like, what the fuck are y'all talking about?

No, Tyler is. Is Farrell hip-hop? Absolutely. Okay. So he's rapping over beats that sound just like Ferrell beats. No, I'm with you. I agree. I'm just saying that I've heard people have that argument,

and it's just that they don't really respect Tyler as a rapper. They need to listen to more. Tyler. And they probably have the odd future shit and they brain still. Because I was even scared at 22. I was like, these fucking 15-year-olds are nuts. Yeah. It was somebody else we saw last night who set was pretty dull.

Oh, Jasmine. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. She gave a masterclass on vocal performance. To sound that good outside with that many people. It just doesn't. Jasmine Sullivan's voice is just. No acoustics for real.

Yeah, like it's just, I mean, I, I, I, would love to see other artists like R&B artists watching Jasmine perform. Yeah. Like, because you have to just look at that in all like the runs and the tone and the breath control and just all of the things that it takes to be a great vocalist. Like she never seemed, anytime I've heard Jasmine Sullivan, she never had an off night. Yeah. And it was so good to see hotels perform.

I've seen a lot of her earlier stuff. hotels was so important to me because the same way they do it to like the conscious rappers like when someone brings up future they'll be like oh but he's talking about real shit i felt like they did that to jasmine with r and b like well there's we need more jasmine sullivans and then jasmine sullivan put out hotels and the content just debunked all you fucking woke people where's the love like nah she was harmonizing this pussy's good for 45 seconds on that stage with all of her background singers and it was the most beautiful thing i've ever seen yeah like i love that Jasmine's like I'm a person I got a whole hotel tape right now incredible album that probably

R&B album of the year that year came out shit you might be able to put that in five years yeah five years no she um she looked great she sounded great um so yeah it was good to see her and we who do we just see uh Victoria Monet yeah we just saw Victoria Monet today um and I'm looking forward to snows today yep snow Allegra Armani white umani white uh while we were watching Victoria Eddyn's been going crazy for Bad Bunny. Eddn did 100 pushups and set-ups this morning. I don't know why. He's been camping outside the Bad Bunny production trailers.

It's just like trying to blend in as a gaffir-media. Yeah, like it's just nastiness going on, man. I don't know what Eddine's doing. You said you're rushing to meet to the photo pit? Yes, absolutely. If Bad Bunny did what Chris Brown did with Meat and Grie photos, what would be your setup? I would not pay $1,000 to meet Bad Bunny. Okay, what if I paid it?

What would you do in the photo shoot? We're doing a handshake. The handshake. The hand was kind of low. And then you know, I'm my chest. That hand is kind of low. What you would shake you right now? He was down here.

Hey, nice to meet you. What's that called? At the elephant walk or something? He'd elephant walk through the whole photo. Hey, nice to meet you. Your family. I'm short. What are you shaking right there?

But yeah, Bad Bunny is, is headlining tonight. You can't tell me I'm not excited for that. No, I like, I like Bad Bunny. After seeing, like, the clips from his Yankee Stadium weekend. Fire. I do want to see bad bun. I just respect art, man, and artistry. And when artists take it there and, you know,

visually they try to make it a whole experience. I will say somebody at Live Nation or maid or rock or whatever is kind of, there's a horny booker amongst us. A horny booker? To go Burner Boy to Bad Bunny and know the type of crowd that Burner Boy brings out and then that Bad Bunny brings out, you're a horny Toad. Yeah. There's be a lot of women in that crowd.

D'Maris. Damaris was out there throwing ass to Victoria Monet. Yes, she was. She don't think we saw her. You know, somebody said to me while we were watching it, I could see more with Victoria and respect to Victoria's situations. Family, yeah. With her baby father and all that.

Hypothetical. They were saying they could see you with Victoria, that you guys would be a cute couple. You could feel the vibe and all that. I agree. Would that be somebody that you would be interesting? No, Victoria's, I mean, all respect, she has a fiancee and a family, a kid, but no, Victoria is beautiful.

Yeah. Okay. Absolutely. So maybe siblings, if she had. That would be of age. That looked just like her. I mean, sure, why not? And act and perform just like her.

Yeah. Does she have a sister that sings just like her? Her name was Victoria. Set me up. No, Victoria, she's beautiful. But we sat with her BT weekend. Super cool. Like, that was my first time

actually having a conversation with her. We've been in some of the same studio sessions before and shit like that. But that was like my first time having a real conversation. But she looked great. I didn't know Victoria could dance like that. Yeah, she was killing that. She looked great. Like she really was up there, like really performing.

She looked really good. But again, should have been later, but it is what it is. I mean, the main stage, a little early, but, you know, she's on the main stage. So, you know, it's the look. And I'm sure a lot of people out there didn't know Victoria's set, didn't know her sound. But now they do. Here comes the hive. She has amazing stage presence.

Like, it's just like her stage presence, her ability to dance and keep breath control. Yo, what you had to see, the rest? She was like, you're not on camera. She was like, wait. Again, respectful to Victoria, but Damaris is not wiping her mouth. If it's on there from Victoria. She's letting it air dry. She's letting it air dry.

No, but she looked. Victoria looked great. She sounded great. It was good to see her on the main stage getting her shit off. Like, she's one of those artists that, you know, she's, if you know, she's a writer. She's written a lot of dope records. She's worked with a lot of amazing talent, amazing vocalist, Ariana Grande, and a bunch of other acts.

But it's good to see her on the main stage showing her. her talent and getting her shit off. I see Demaris did not miss a lyric of what that head game like. Period. Have a long conversation with me if you like swimming under the sea, then dive. You know what? I like now that in RV to some degree that women now have, we used to have to set the tone. Like guys would have to set like, you know, when you're trying to go there, you put on a certain type of record.

Women have so many records now that they can connect to the speaker. Yeah. To really get the move started. Yeah. How would you feel if you was in Shorty's crib and she just. threw on what what's that head game like by Victoria Monet. I mean. And I'm butchering the title, but that's what it is.

It's called dive, but those are really nice. It's called what that head game like? I'm going to, what is it like? Do you get nervous? No, you don't get nervous. You still get you? Who still gets nervous with women? Ma, do girls, do you like when girls like grab your head?

Like, if you like kiss to her and shit, she's like push your head down? We're not doing that. I do. We're not doing that. I don't mind the aggressive shit. I don't mind that. but don't push my head down. Like, don't do that.

Listen, I'll let y'all know. Not aggressively, but like, guide it. You know what I'm going. I know what I'm going. If a man doesn't have to guide me, I know what I'm going. I was in relationships and I would get really upset when he did that. Why? I don't like, I just, I feel like it's disrespectful to women.

So it's not disrespectful to me. You don't need to guide me. I know where it's at, DeMaris. I've been there a few times. I do exactly that. I know where it's at. The bad part about like damn near being bald is we can cover scratches on our back. When you see me with them scratches on top of my head, you know I went crazy.

He's really... You know I went crazy when I got the nail shits right up here. They only scratch your head when you put the tongue in the asshole like that. Yeah. Well, no, no. They'll be there. They dig the nails what you do that. Tell us more.

Tell us more. The nails dig when you hit that. It's a surprise. Oh, shit. And yeah. Oh, wow. Do the movement again. Hurry.

Yeah, you saw his back. Oh, a little... It's a little red back came up off that couch like that. So Kanye West's going crazy on Instagram. I'm sure of that. Kanye, out of control. someone get the Wi-Fi. Yo, listen, man.

Kanye has been going crazy, which seems like a week and it was only a day. We missed a lot of shit because we were doing the Quentin shit. We have another interview coming. We've been in made. I feel like we missed a lot of fucking topics. It's a lot of shit going on in the world right now, man. It was the weekend.

I had a few people in L.A. last night that were going to the show. And everybody started texting me like, yo, he just canceled. In the middle of his set. And I'm like, oh, shit, what happened? They're like, he said he lost his voice. I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I respect that, but obviously the internet was killing the weekend because so many people had paid money and, you know, whatever. Some people probably traveled to come to the show.

But I don't think people understand that level of art. And, you know, vocally, if an artist is on stage and they feel like I'm going to sound. Because I would rather cancel my show than to sound like shit and the internet be like, yo, he's terrible live. And just do disservice to your fans where you can eventually reschedule it and they get the full experience. And then he said, yo, you'll be refunded. Why didn't they just milly-vaniliate with that guy that did all those fake Michael Jackson references? You know one of them that Drake bought? Yeah.

Did they ever confirm that? That was not Michael Jackson, bro. I mean, did they ever confirm it? Drake's PR team is the greatest ever. I swear to God, if you go look at Scorpion now, it doesn't say feature Michael Jackson. Okay, good. That is not Michael, bro. When I heard that shit, I'm like, my ear is not the best, but this ain't Michael.

Yeah. But the fact that they sold it like it was Mike was crazy. And the fact that I would say OVO has some of the best ears in music history. How did that slip? Like, bro, how 40 go, but this is not Michael Jackson. Yeah, that's crazy. We never talked about that enough. They buried, they buried that.

They swept that under the rug. That's why that they got that through there, like that on Drake's album. And, like, who was the one cutting those? Who sold it? Yeah, I don't know. Like, did the Michael Jackson estate? Because if I'm Drake, I'm only buying something from the estate. Exactly.

My man's the students. Like, yo, I got some Michael versus. Yeah, that's why that's crazy. I never understood that one. But, um, but yeah, uh, The weekend had to cancel his show because his vocally, he just wasn't there. Yeah. The internet, you know, they killed him.

And the internet is going to internet. But people just have to understand that artists, you know, especially when they take their craft serious, if they feel like I'm not 100% tonight, I'm going to sound like shit, I want to give you my best performance. I know that in the middle of the set, the night has started, the show has started. Everybody's kind of like in the moon. And then for the artists to say, you'll listen, I can't do this tonight, vocal. I know it's like fucked up.

Yeah. But y'all have to understand that they're human and their artists and they want to give you their best performance. So it's like, you know, take the weekend and, you know, pray for him and hope that he gets better. And, you know, he might double back and do that showover. Just take the weekend to get his voice. Oh, that too. I didn't know we were going with that. Oh, that too.

Yeah, because it just flows, Dee. You know what I'm saying? This is just off the top. Listen, you know, you get around Victoria Monet, the Penn Star working. She is engaged, man. Please. What are you all doing? She's an amazing writer.

No, absolutely. Amazing writer. But yeah, shout out to the weekend. Get better, sound better soon. And hopefully you get back to L.A. and give the people a great show at the SoFi Stadium. All right, we are back with Elliot Wilson once again. Volume 2.

But now we are back with Brian. I'm going to call you Brian B. Dot Miller. That's cool. Ian Brian coming through your environment. I had to, but I got to give you the official introduction because we sat down with Elliot yesterday. And, you know, I've been giving y'all shit since I came back. First of all, welcome back.

Thank you. And, by the way, I think it's the only. way we'll get a rap radar interview. Is that a festival? They'll never invite us to come sit with them in Malibu. I did. Because I'll actually eat. We had that for decor. First of, let's talk about

the setup. This is my first time. It looks like a big baked potato on the outside. It does. But inside, it's like, yeah, it's almost like you get to a cute girl's house and you're like, oh, she has shower curtains. You know what's just what costs in Brooklyn? About five grand. At least. Right? At least. First, last,

third. But you have a gym And you have parking You're like This is like Bathroom It does give Some type of nasty

Pod version of bang bros When I first walked into I was like This is kind of nasty They try to throw it off Like these lamps don't work Yeah This is definitely the bank bus for sure

But it has AC It's all that matters Right As soon as people open the door They're like oh my God It's cooling here Are we here to squash these rumors Yes

Friends Should we give us some back story? I hope so. Let's give some back story. How many of us have them? So, so more in, I don't know what episode it was,

when you guys had announced that you guys were back, the rap radar was back. We're very happy about it. We did ads. Yes, super excited. Mid-roll. Mid-roll mafia.

Yes, mid-roll mafia for sure. We got to figure out pre-roll too. You had said that you do not think Elliot and B-D are friends. We talked to Elliot yesterday. We then opened the door to the pod bang bus. Yeah. And we seen B-Dat right next to Elliot.

I kept my clothes on. And you almost did it like the bang-bush shit. Like, yo, I got $400. you want to come here? Like, we're going that way. Just get in. No, but it was, first of all, it was just me throwing a shot under Elliot's post

and saying, I know a good PR stunt when I see one. These two are not friends. But it is good to have you gentlemen both at the same time because we appreciate y'all. We appreciate what y'all do at the highest level of what we do in the culture, without our form of journalism. And you guys sit down with some of the best

that we have in our culture. And y'all get intriguing, conversations out of them. The Jamie Fox Snoop episode was amazing. Yeah, that was one. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate. So yeah, we have y'all here now. And we just got to ask the question because BDOT you weren't here yesterday. So I know sometimes, you know, as friends don't go everywhere together. But then it's like, Ellie Goddain was like, yo, bro, they really think we're not friends. You got to get out here. By the way, by the way, I didn't believe all. I bought his flight. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Flying from New York. You got to kill the room. Yo, flying from New York to Philly is crazy. Have to kill the rumors. Hashtap. Yeah.

To go half on the Peter Pan bus to come down here. So. Peter Pan bus. I had pushback from all because I was like, Maul, nah, they fuck with each other. Then I'm in an Uber on Lafayette. Yeah. And I see BDOT walking down like somebody killed his dog.

Yeah. And I, I, I, probably do you go out of the phone with Elliot. I said, Bada you're right. He's like, yeah, just came from this rap radar interview. I was like, fuck, Mom. I'd be right. Oh, he was so upset. Was that?

I think it was. I think it was. It was. Uncle Few had beat out in his feelings. Okay. Oh, really? Everybody? Okay.

Yeah, because we can say it now. I didn't think it was a great episode. I'm in my feelings a lot, so it's fine. Okay. Yeah, I just didn't think it was great. And it was like, was it just their energy? Yeah, it was just a bad road game, you know what I'm saying? Like, we felt it was really ready to kind of go there.

The Migos thing is fascinating because because those dudes are actually real dudes. Yeah. It's hard for them to, like, publicly say the shit they want to say. Because they're family for real. And not Shae Roomy and gossipy. Exactly. So they tend on that edge of the thing. So it's disappointed.

It was presented to us that they was ready to like, yo, it's always like that. It's always presented like a clarity. We have an artist we will not name. We do have like a saying for that now. Is he going to do this? Because every time we have artists that text mall,

we're about to air all this shit out. Can't fucking wait. Law and I get excited. We get production together. And they come here be like, yo, I love everybody. Exactly. I hope everyone wins.

Which is fine. Loving everybody is okay. That's cool. Just don't ask me up in text. You're ready to go and tell us about everything. that's going on, and you want to really talk about it, and then you get and sit down, like, BDOT is obviously saying. Did he cost you with New York feeling that thing?

No, it was just weird. It was just like a weird time. I was walking down Lafayette and, uh, and say, yo, Bidat. And I said, Roy, what the fuck are you doing it? I was like, I was in a Toyota Camry, Uber, too. It wasn't even a fly Uber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, that's the Lafayette Uber, though.

You got a lot of Lafayette in the Camry for sure. He was going to that nice social club over there around that area. I saw Elliot's hours later. Yeah. A little house, yeah. He linked me at Lola. Has there been interviews you guys probably won't take because of that that you know the artist is one of those.

BDD turns everybody now. I think going forward is like if we're not going to be able to talk about certain things, let's not have a conversation. I agree with that. I agree with that. So I think that Cuevo and takeoff was kind of like a learning lesson. Okay. Going forward.

We're also serious about like you ain't hot or the timing of things. BDaz quit. BDaz is ruthless. I'm like, well, maybe we can kind of make this work and he's not hot. It got to make sense. It's like more rooferous. I get that. Was there anything post-Callid interview or even watching it back or doing the edit that

you wanted to ask him or stop him and say, hey, you kind of sound full of shit right now. Another one. I mean, I think we got everything out. Like, in a conversation, I told him, what if the vocal, because he said he likes what Drake likes, right? Yeah, that was good. But I also told him, like, what if you don't like the vocals? Because the vocals come in all the time and you're excited.

But what about how do you, you know, manage quality control? So that's a real question. But I think we pretty much got everything off our chest. I did break his glass when I was at his house. Oh, that was a party now. That was great. That what happened was is that Cala has these wine glasses and he had coasters, but the coasters were too small.

And then the wine glass was sweating. So as I was trying to grab it, it just slipped. Right before we started taping, it was so cool. And it just, I was like, oh, shit. Cali kept as cool. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.

God loves you. Yeah, it was like, it's okay. God did. tell me, Caled is an amazing human being in hospitality. Anytime you're at his house if you break something, it's fine. They were sweeping and cleaning immediately. Yeah, immediately. Before the glass at the ground, I laid out of the later. Yeah, I know. And, you know,

I was like, I got to, I had to I said him some new ones the next day. I had to. I had to. That's the Brian. That's not the beat-offs. That's a good old Brian talking, yeah. That's definitely Brian talking right there. I got you right now. Thank you. Oh, and water. Not just sani. That's disrespectful.

Sonata chella back. I'm talking about pH balance. Who are some of the guys that y'all are looking forward to talking to that y'all had already? But now so many things have happened in their lives and in their careers. It's like we got to sit down with him again. Jay Cole for sure. He promised that we was going to have another conversation with him at Dreamville Fest, but it hasn't really happened yet. Who else, Ellie?

Who do you think? Everybody won Kendrick. We haven't told the Kendrick yet. What do you guys think a Kendrick interview would look like? That's interesting. You asked what you said? What would a Kendrick interview at this point in his life look like? the thing about the

Mr. Robb and whether you love it or like it or whatever or hate it. I love it too. That's so therapeutic and so much to unpack from that album. Exactly. Like that shit is at least an hour and a half, two hours. It would be interesting to see his perspective of those things he touched on in the album now that he got that out to the world.

That would be what's intriguing. And also the energy he's gotten back from everybody because family business. Like he aired a lot of things out. So I wonder what that looks like now after you get that off. You know, we were talking right when the album came out, you know, his wife, or I'm not sure the status, no, it's in my business. Kids, he's kept hidden. They didn't sign up for none of the shit.

We saw even with Lemonade 4444, as much as that is still private business, they are both superstars and, you know, such as comes with the business. Kendrick has, his family is not, they're not superstars. So I'm curious what that was like when he played it for them. Are you okay with this? Then what happened? Yeah. I wish Kendrick would. do that. Not that he owes it to us, but he'll probably only talk to Tim from Amazon

because they go to Africa together. Shout out to him. Shout out to Tim. You see, if you're not from Compton, you can't get this? If you're not from Compton? I guess I did love that aspect of it with the position Tim is in now and Amazon where they at that he went right to like hometown. But he did say Tim to Africa.

He took Carl Cherry to Africa. In Spotify. Shout to call. Yeah, shout to call. I mean, here we are in Philly. He's in, Kendrick is in a hall and pull-ups or shit. So he might be ready. He might be ready to come outside and sit and talk with people.

I hate it when I see like rappers in New York. I'm like, yo, what the, what do you, I could have met you up there? You know what I mean? If A.Sat Ferg gets a podcast is over for us because he can get anybody to take it. Yeah, he got Kendrick uptown on Lennox, drinking smoothies and, and Tiger Bohn and doing pull-ups. It's like, I'll be in that area. Like, I never see anybody.

And the one day I'm not. Kendrick is at fucking El Porto eating seafood and doing pull-ups at Black Star Music Cut. He was, he was. He was, he was. Speaking of, of Pod Wars and Media Wars. You guys were at Caled's house. How did you feel when Rob Markman got the guru breakdown piece? Because I personally will admit I was frustrated and upset.

I was cool with it. You know, like, I like the fact. Like, Rob is, you know, great guy. He's in a group chat with Pod or Rob. So Rob is, Rob is cool. And I was just, oh, you're in that infamous group chat. The infamous group chat. Neither of mine.

They talk shit about me and that group chat. Breakdown the cool. Like, we're in a group chat with hold, but that's not as cool as the other group chat. That beat out on Jay Z. I don't know what he's talking about. What was the other group chat? We can vacuum the floor after we drop all the names. Let's go.

Do it. I don't know what he's talking about. Can I snitch on the group chat? Yeah, please. The one to beat us in that we're not worthy enough to be in Rory. Caz is in that group chat. Yes. Shout to Cass.

Hovane is in there. Salamane. I'm so glad I'm not in that group chat. All they do is stuff right. All they do is talk. It's gossip girl now. They talk shit about us. And Waino's in there as well.

Okay, that's fine. Some might be able to get in when Waino. It's fun. I could be wano. That's my man. It's a lot of allies and enemies in the group chat, so I don't even know how it's managed. It's all love. I like the competitive.

I like the competitive nature. Like, I think that we all have a mutual respect for each other. I did at one point have a real issue with Charlamagne because of what he said. But I mean, that's, you know, it is what it is. I was happy. They thought you didn't like BDOT. Really? No.

You're making that up? I don't remember that. Fake news. Yeah, that's definitely fake news. Good people both sides. Good people to my life. The virus tried to kill me. I watched that clip a thousand times.

Yeah, because you know what it's so he does it. If you study that clip, like he goes into this thing and then BDah Smarley, like we're not actors like you guys. You guys are like actors. We make us feel like we got to take acting lessons and shit. Like you guys are like serious about it. So me and BDard are not despians, but I think in the Jamie Foss clip, if you really watch it like tape and really break it down, the best thing is that BDat immediately jumps into the whole position of like, let's pretend he's Trump. I'm asking questions. Like as if he's drunk.

Yeah. That's what I'm playing. And then you watch that part and it goes over great. And I jump in him with the fake news and then he's leveraged off that. And then if you see the clip, then we had that bit. It starts to wrap up. I literally give him like a fist bump like, oh shit. You're like, thank you, man.

Thank you. And then he gets this bump. He goes, he gave me the virus. He starts a whole other bit. Yeah. And the little shit Jamie Fox didn't that, even when when BDock got into like the journalist. I'm talking to Trump now. Yeah.

See what he's doing. You see what he's doing. The same shit Trump do anytime somebody asks a question. Excuse me? That was great. No, Jamie Fox is. Yeah, his comedic mind. And it was times with Snoop, like, it's so funny to see Snoop kind of, like, he was

with Dr. Dreher in some way, Snoop could play number two. Because we know what the fourth Snoop is and we all love Snoop. Yeah. But Snoop was letting Jamie be in control, running room. And, like, even when Snoop was talking about things, I can, Jamie being so close to me, I can see his comedic mind trying to figure, like, how am I going to rejoin the conversation? Like, it's powerful, man. Speaking of Oscar, Super Bowl.

Yeah. Anyone care? I think that's fucking incident. That's a win. I never know which. Emmy. I never know which. Emmy.

Emmy. Emmy. Emmy. That's huge. She's for the coaches. It's a major one. We hit on board this morning and thanks, congrats to him and Des.

And, you know, for all that drama. Look, the Super Bowl, like, that's a big platform. They've taken it to another level. Dre added his genius to it, whether or not he made the right decisions of who joined him or not. You know, that's not for us to judge. But I love when hip hop is recognized that way. So I think it's huge that they got the image. Big one.

Do you guys want a Snoop and Dre album that they're working on right now? Yeah, we confirmed it. If the music is good, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, skeptical, boys. What if it's not? They ain't, keep it. Like, I'm just like the kind of guys.

It sounds good on paper. Sounds too good on paper. Yeah, like, hopefully it's better in actual practice instead of theory. You know what I'm saying? Because they made magic. It's harder capture lightning in a bottle, you know, once again. But if you're Snoop, don't you want like a real dread? Like, you had the moments.

You had doggy style. You had 2001. But it's like, you're, you know, You're Snoop dog. Like, he was like the anchor of the whole shit. Like, if you're Snoop at this point and you maintain relevancy, you feel like you need that Dre look. Like, you need one more, like, moment with Dre.

I guess so. I'm not mad at it, but it, the music, it has to sound good. It has to be phenomenal. It's going to hurt. Like, that catalog is already perfect. And I love that Snoop still works with the younger artists. I love that Dre sound has not aged at all. He still works with the younger artists.

Like, I'd rather Dre lock in production-wise with the younger kids. And Snoop do the same with the younger producers. than them get there like or their catalog is flawless right do we really need it at this point we don't need it don't need yeah it's welcome yeah but we okay but we need dray to fuck with the young kids we need snook to fuck with the young kids yeah i think that's needed yeah well he said you i had confirmed that corday wrote some of his bars yeah that shows his dedication to recognize and like you know we all say corny definitely rocks the younger generation yeah for sure but listen man any other uh um shit we can we can we can stir up i don't want to pop war i don't want to

No, no, no, no. We love y'all. We love y'all. We love y'all. We love how B.D.I. I love how BDott can be wearing a du rag one minute and then sitting down with Jamie Foxx or Snoop the next. It's just the greatest shit in the world.

I have put my good clothes on for that. You know what I mean? I don't think, uh, I don't think our passes scan at Made in America right now because we did the fuck JZ segment with BD. Is this our verse swap? It wasn't a fuck. You have to do our shit now. I don't know how y'all.

I don't know how y'all pulled that off. I was mortified at home. The good folks at Complex. What are they doing at the complex? every Wednesday, 12 p.m. They was like, hey, season three? Season four, actually. Ooh, okay.

Get your shit off, yeah. Season four. Grats, real. And they was like, hey, thank you. I appreciate it. It was like, why don't we just do worst Jay Z songs? I was like, hmm, okay. Who can we get?

We got to get the whole Avengers, man. I said, Rory and all. Okay, let's make it happen. When I got that text, I was like, wait, whoa, y'all want me to sit down and talk about Jay's worst lyrics? Nah, worst songs? And I was like, you know what? Yeah.

Let's have fun. Let's have fun. And of course, Jay signed off on it. Yeah. That was all good. And he's a good sport about it. And he doesn't take himself that serious. He doesn't mind.

So we think. He said Hollywood was his worst song. Okay. And he admitted to that. No, not in Hollywood. He said anything. What one?

I forgot. Is that one with Usher? I hit the strip club song. Is that the one that we crowned the worst? Was it that one? I think it might have been. I think that was the one we crowned the worst. I would hope so.

Yeah, it was anything. It was anything. It was pretty bad on Kingdom comes. You've been us got like, remember the hot. Not tiny wasn't that bad. You know, like that shit don't really, they can't make magic together now.

All right. Well, hot toddy wasn't a chain. You don't like that. Show up. On my side. I hate that record. If you put me through the dime at one time. I hate it.

I hate Sean Paul on the record. And I was saying to y'all earlier, like, when a forever young comes on at the concert, when he used to have the set list, it's like, I'm going to the exit. I'm trying to find out. I'm going to be traffic. I'm being traffic.

That's a great song. And then like, then, like, you know how vitch, you're like, you just on that pure hip hop shit. you don't get it. Backpack is, you know, you rock is with the backpack. You don't get it.

You don't even understand. You don't understand. You don't understand. You know, this is like a big thing. You can't digest. Have you and your boom bag? You put your cell phone out? You put the flashlight on into this.

No. You put the flashlight. No, you can't do that. Light is up. No. You can't put your light up. No. You can't put the lighter up to that, right?

He put his arm around his girl. You shake the ladder. No, that's nice. You can't be a bat a ladder. You can't put the light up. You don't know for Mr. Hudson? No, we love him. I love Mr. Hudson.

That's a Rory Moll guest right there. Mr. Hudson would be amazing. He put your shit with us, though. I'm just saying, that's a great record, man. Fuck you guys. Forever Young. That got some personal shit would Beat-I-Doh. He was going through something with that record drop.

That's a great song, man. I mean, Jay, his lyrics was always top-notch, but you're not going to go right to that. You think? Have it a good way? Took B-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. Yeah, for sure. Look at his eyes. So when rap radar was

In between negotiations He still was just that's He's still talking to sell He's like the video Nah, we're not fucking with it I don't even remember the video It was black and white So it was 99 problems

And some kids were skate for you Some brothers We didn't get it We didn't get it BeDohy. Some people need it He did it He has forever young

Yeah, I get it I get it. Great record He stays centered I don't like Nike shorts With the Jordans unless Did they have the Nike symbol in the back of three?

All right, I take it back. I apologize. I should have never done that. He's doing it right. Festival chic. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you can't come.

I broke these out because I stand with Yeh. Yes. Against Adidas. You can't come here. These are the color ways that it. You can tell a rookie at a festival. It's your first time. You can tell a rookie at a festival.

You can't tell when a rookie is out of festival. They get way too fresh. You can't be fresh. You got to be like laundry day. Yeah. You know what I mean? Erins. Erins.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Gotta look like you running some errands. Yeah. How do you feel about all the shit that Ye got going on right now on Instagram? Kanye loves him some posts. Kanye thinks he thinks too fast for his fingers, I think. I will say, though, I've been saying this lately besides these recent posts.

I say the higher you go up the ladder of success, the more Kanye makes sense. I get it. The more I understand what he's talking about as being a creative and a visionary, because there's a lot of people in these positions that don't get it. Oh, yeah. So I'm like, you know what? When Elliot and I negotiated. and doing things.

It's like, yo, I get it, Kanye. You hear, Kanye? I get it. I've been vocal when I don't agree with them, and I'm vocal when I agree with them. I disagree with putting those people's faces up there because that could be a liability.

Your fans is fucking crazy. Who knows? Yeah. But everything he's saying is not wrong. No, he makes some valid points. Yeah. Kanye is he's smart. He's educated.

He's intelligent. He's not, you know, we may not understand him because we're not in his business like that. Yeah. But he's not just doing these things just because he woke up and decided that's what he wanted to do.

Yeah. Yeah, he's a passionate guy, and I think that shows in his music, of course, in business as well. So before we go, is the Drake rain over? Podcasts hot topic. Is Drake not number one anymore?

I don't think staying alive helps. You hate staying alive. Oh, my God, right? Yo, every Staying Alive clip, I send it to Rory. Like, like, I, it's not, no, but you guys let Callie say that it was,

it was the greatest hook of our lifetime. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. I think the BG's disagreed. Yeah. actually they did. Let's not play that S-S-BG's incredible record.

It's incredible. I think Wickev did it better. You know, I agree. Well, I don't think it's even comparable between staying live and what White-Cleff did with that.

Can we appreciate that Y'Cleff shit? Because I was at the source of the time. We shitted on that in real time. We hated that in real time. Now you look back on that, that Wachliff and Will I am have a lot of similar. Like going from the real hip-hop shit to go into mainstream.

I never thought about that comparison, but I see it. I see it now. And then we look back at a lot of Well-I-I-M-I-M-M shit that we hate it. It's like, this was a joint. Why do we hate this when it came out? It was a bop.

Yeah, it's actually a bop. Okay. You need a time to, time needed it happen. But yeah. Staying alive. Ah, I, ah, I. C-LB anniversary. You went to the, yo, we might not be friends.

You went to the release party? You didn't invite me? Last minute. I flew in last minute. For the Cali? I didn't know about it until yesterday. I barely got in. Did you take a picture in front of the neon sign?

I was like, yo. I didn't. I was ripping and running. You could have gave me the heads up, man. I'm sorry. You're my dear friend. You're my dear friend. You're my dear friend.

Don't do this to me. Don't do this to me. Don't do that to me. DeMaris is a producer, man. Yeah, but she can't give me the fin. Don't do that. She didn't give you the middle finger. She might as well.

This is this. This is this. You got to hit her with the Rick Flynn. Rick Flynn. Don't wrap me up. Do we have a date for the bank's interview? What else can we look for us to? Right.

So whenever this comes out, the bank's interview will probably be out by then. That's coming out every Thursday. Every Thursday. Every Thursday. Might go twice a week because we want to compete with you guys, but we'll see how to go. Twice a week with an interview and the way y'all do interviews. Yeah, right? Talk to them, Ross.

No, I'm trying to corner the market. That's a lot of work. You know what is? I'm competitive, but I'm not in competition if that makes sense. Yeah. Okay, damn dash. That's when that's when PR says, hey, you're being too arrogant. Here's what to say.

I'm not competitive. I'm not competitive. I basically said you're a candle in the sun. Yeah. And that shit don't even out. No, I like to be competitive, man. You know what I'm saying? Like you see.

said when Rob got the interview girl. Yeah, go, Rob. No, two quality interviews a week. No one's really doing that. That's difficult. No, I'm just saying, if anyone can do it, y'all would be the two to do it. I just know how difficult it is to, like,

really conduct real interviews. It's hard. And doing that twice a week, shooting the shit with him twice a week is tough. Right. I know how you all do that. I can never imagine. And then, yo, those kids, like,

I got it before we get out of here, mall, you as Bishop, man. Congratulations, brother. That wasn't really good thing. Ain't one man above the pod. No one man above the pod. Listen, we're just trying to have fun and promote. I'll tour tickets available now

New Orleans. Yeah. You'll make me feel like me and BD I got to get acting lessons or some shit, man. No, what you and B. are doing are, listen,

the conversations that y'all are having, the questions that y'all ask, how personal you y'all get with some of our favorite artists and the culture, y'all are like, you know, the top of the top. It doesn't get any better than y'all.

So what y'all are doing is exactly what we need. Y'all are one of the few podcasts that I actually sit down and watch and listen to, because I know y'all are going to ask shit that I would ask if I was sitting in front of these gentlemen. So, you know, we're happy to have y'all back.

Dynamic duos up in this motherfucker, man. And God damn it, we got to do a rap radar. Shit. That'll be hard. Let's do it. If they're doing twice a week, then. We'll be that desperate. They might need us.

They might start running. There's only so many artists. Yeah, yeah. You're all right. Y'all want to do a whole week. We'll take it. We'll take it. But all, we thank y' y'all.

Thank you. Thank you. RAPRADOR. You say. Chou say, thank you for the Chal. Chal Des. Des don't get enough. Shout out to Desh.

Shout out to everybody at Doucet. Shout out to everybody at Rock Nation. Made in America, Philly, 2002. Rappradar BDOT. 2002. I know you're wearing in a death. The Daryl Strawberry. Too much Ducey.

Too much Ducey. Philly, Made America, 22, rap radar, BDott. Yep. Elliot Wilson. Thank you for having us. My buddy. Thank y'all for sitting with us, man.

Family. My bestie. All right, well, we back with a guest, man. Just got off the stage. Air mattresses in the crowd. Surfing. That shit was crazy. One of the more creative things I've ever seen added to shows at this one.

Try to add safety into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just found out you can get sued at shows and shit. For that? For that anything. Like, I didn't know that, like, that was like, yeah. You can get sued for anything. Travis got sued for performing.

Travis did way more to perform. But, like, no, we throw fruit snacks out of the crowd. They're like, yo, that's a liability. Like, you can take somebody eye out. I'm like, man, bro. A fruit snack? A fruit snack takes your eye out. You should be home in.

We fucked up the intro goes his family. This is Armani White here. Yeah. Amonnie White. Big lock up. Listen, listen. This is my second time I made America. The first time Rory saved my life.

They had Ducey Palluzer right before our set. But if they did not do that shit, boy. We'd have been performing for staff for sure. And it wasn't because we were dope. It was just a quiet ass fucking park. Because it was like we were at whenever the gates opened, we were the minute after. And they just heard bass from Austin. And all these kids just ran over and made us look like we were the hottest shit movie.

That's a dope thing about festivals, though. Like, soon as kids hear something, they just go running the shit. They don't know what it is. They're like, I know. Let's go check it out. It's not like 808. That makes sense. What's been going on, man?

I have some questions. Shit has been a journey, bro. Especially since the last time I saw, yeah, been a fucking. I know. I took some trips around the sun. Like, that shit, yeah, it'd been crazy for sure. So how do we go from being the amazing musician that cares about every last fucking detail

and every last bit of the artwork down to everything. To Billy Ollie. And fucking TikTok does it? Right, right, right. So some women doing somersaults and hoodies. The women are going to dictate the culture. I keep telling people that.

I know, bro. That's what I'm saying? Like, I don't, you see Roy came into the studio with me like years and years ago. Yeah. And he know, I was on some like, nah, everything got to be fine tuned. I played him the whole project. I was like, all right, so bad it's done. I was like, nah, I'm by to rework the whole.

whole shit. Yeah. So, like, now I'm just kind of like... Having fun. Yeah, bro. Like, I got a show into the, like, the meticulous shit. Yeah. It's like...

Overthinking sometimes as an artist. Right now. I ended up sitting with this project for a whole other year. Okay. Just because I wanted to keep fine-tuning shit. And it was like, bro, let's just get this shit. I had some fun with it. And that was the record that, you know, we decided to have fun with.

It's going crazy. It went stupid. I was happy that it wasn't like a shitty record. It's a good record. Because a lot of TikTok records that blow up, like, they're catchy, but they're catchy, but they're shitty records. Oh, no, no, no, for sure. At least this actually felt like a good, good record.

But it was still like... Did you come up with the somersault in the hoodie? Nah, not, no, nah. The thing is, I tried this shit. Fell broke a couple... You know, broke some furniture and shit. Like, yeah, that shit was bad. I said, no, y'all got it.

Like, yeah, y'all do that. Yeah, right, right. It's your thing. I'm gonna fall back. Like, yeah, nah, I didn't come up with the somersaw. I tried a whole bunch of other trends and shit. They're in my privates right now. Like, I just went right off on my TikTok.

But, yeah. I was telling DeMaris, that's what I want to see, all the outtakes of all these women doing somersaults off their bed and not landing. Nah, not sticking to land. Some people have gotten hurt, I can guarantee you. Yeah, no, kick their cameras all sorts of wild shit. Does, uh, is there some catch 22 to the success? Do you feel like because you have such a larger fan base now with this record and it's at what? 10 billion streams or some shit?

Yeah. No, no, no, there's 40 billion to view. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My apologies. Yeah, yeah. I undermine you with 10 billion streams. Yeah. 40 billion.

Don't show them on this 30 billion. Right, right. Yeah. Do you have to approach. shit different now or you still want to stick? I mean, that's TikTok. Like the $40 billion is on TikTok. Like, I'm, you know, like, I'm still an artist outside of TikTok. And the great thing about this shit is it didn't just live on TikTok.

You know what I mean? It ain't just like a record that it got millions of videos, billions of views, but like nobody ever actually listened to the song. You know what I mean? Like the shit transferred over. My little back catalog, the straightened the money, then came up a little couple, you know, that shit multiply. So like, yeah, I'm chilling.

Like, my thing is with a record like Billy I was having fun, I was still being myself so it's easy for me to keep being myself as opposed to like you know what i'm saying but the billy ilish record so you have the ears now yeah so now they can really get into armani the artist yeah and really see that it's a whole different vibe exactly exactly bro i do a whole bunch of like because my main thing is like i define the genre as happyhood music like you know i'm saying i'm a nigga for philly like there's already a connotation that come with that just being from philly so it's like all right let me take that west philly right yeah from west philly so it's like let me take that take that take that whole thing that y'all, you know,

like that you all already think about Philly and just turn it around. Like, I come from the same hood, but I found a brighter and more colorful way to tell my story. So, you know what I mean? So with that, it's just,

it's still like, it's going to be some Billy Eilishers. It's going to be some of the older style records. Yeah, but it's always just going to be uplifting. It's like, I think about it like a funeral. It's like instead of mourning of death,

I'm going to celebrate the life. Even if you're talking about some dark shit, I'm going to celebrate the life. You know what I'm saying? Has, as Billy reached out? Billy ain't doing. She's, Billy ain't doing that goddamn thing.

No somersaults, no hoodie, no, no merch collab on a hoodie. Right, yeah. Come on, Billy, what are you doing? My manager said, her manager, he hit her manager up. My manager was like, yo, Billy's really happy for Armani, but she doesn't plan on leaning that. I said, fuck that, nigga. She doesn't plan on leaning in?

Like, she's like right now. Oh, that's such a P-O-A. She's not going to lean into it. What the do? Billy don't lean into the goddamn record. Well, no, Drake was the other one. When Drake did the interlude with game. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was the best PR move and saying, I'm not doing your first. And there was someone else we interviewed that had the greatest, like my energy's not in the place to support you at the moment. Like, it was some shit like that. I was like, oh, I need to use that.

Yeah, no, her energy's definitely not in the place to support me. I was going to bother me too. Yeah. Because we always like, that is such a great thing to say. But Billy leaning to the goddamn record. God damn it.

Omani's a great guy. She cleared this sample for me, though. Like, she... Well, that's love. That's all I really, like, I'm still appreciative of Billy for doing that shit because Universal waited to the very end, the very end of the clearance process to be like,

wait, did y'all ask Billy to do this shit? They want to see them numbers going to have a little bit more leverage. No, they ain't want that call from Billy after that shit went out. They didn't know what to say to that. But it's cool that she cleared it. Yeah, no, that was a good job. That was for sure. Good segue into the question we've been asking every artist.

Yeah. Who's an artist you DM'd that did not reply to you? Boy, it's a list. Everybody has a list. Yeah, no, it's a list. because you got to shoot a couple shots. I just found out that this shit worked. Like, I shot one at a...

I want some, like, not like super big, but I shot one in a ski mask. He was like, yeah, bro, let's do it. Game hit me up. Feezy, my favorite white guy. He hit me up. I was just, I was in the studio with you before, Barry Harris.

No, that's cool. I get down, G. You Irish, you Irish, bro. It's different. It's different. Yeah, you're Billy Irish. Yeah, yeah. I am not Billy Irish.

My name is not Billy Irish. Put Roy on the shirt Yeah, no, put Billy. What about saying? Put Billy Irish. Yeah, that's the remix, Omani. Billy Irish for Roe. We didn't have much of a budget.

So we got this guy. Nah, no, damn, it's a couple that definitely didn't, that didn't, uh, I don't even want to say that shit, but that's shit embarrassing. Shit, jeezzy would be perfect for that remix. That's his pocket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, G. See, the thing is, though, they said that.

But they was like, because G. Easy did the, what's the one record with him and ASEP? Oh, not, Cardi's not on that. Yeah, yeah, no, Cardi is on. Cardi is on that. But in that situation, that scenario, G.Easy was kind of like the Armani White in that situation. Like, a lot of, he had a lot more, like, culture to tap in.

So I'm like, damn, do I, you know what I mean? Like, I think we can find another record for me and G. I agree with you on. I agree with. You didn't whisper. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. Who do you want to read? Yeah.

No, so we tapped, we tapped a few different people. I'm gonna just yell a bunch of shit out because I don't think any of them's happening. But, okay, we tap. That record's taken off. No, we tapped, we tapped Jack Harlow. We tapped Uzi. We tapped, um, I guess a funny shit to tell you about Ouzzi or

camera, but, okay, we got, uh, tapped Jack Harlow, Uzi. Ouzi would be interesting on that. Oozzie would be tough. Yeah, it was a, right. I mean, so, we tapped them to, I think, I want to say a lot of us. You know what I was so? I was literally about to say, about Lotto.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lado's pocket, too. My thought was Lotto. That was my initial drum was Lato. The first shit I said was Lado. I fuck with, you know, like this woman rapping, so that would be my shit. So we got to ask, man, because we've been asking all the artists that come through a kicker with us. Lunch with JZ.

Let's up the bag a little bit. Lunch with JZ or... $250K. Cash. Okay. I won't even eat like that, man. It's been plenty of... days you didn't eat, right?

I'll be starving, I'll be starving, dick. I get my own lunch with $250K, right? Right. Looking at Jay and shit just eating the shit out of the middle. I'm like, damn.

I watch all his videos on my iPad with the $250K. You're really hungry right now, Jayon. Like, I'm like, so the 250 you take it. I'm taking it to 250, but you had lunch with Jay, bro.

I have. I'm saying? It's not that interesting. He doesn't talk to you. The only thing he said to me was, I'm getting better. It's a direct quote of when I had lunch with Jay Z.

He said, I'm getting better. Yeah, no, yeah. He proved it. Yeah, absolutely. But I wasn't at lunch for that information. Right, exactly. He's just commenting on his food like, man, these crab legs.

Right, right, exactly. Exactly. Like, you're going to hear that for two hours and then you're going to walk out. Yeah. The 250 is a good boy. No, no, no. I'm definitely taking the 250. That's an easy one.

I ain't even, yo, keep it a bean though. When I found out you and Biggs's brothers said it makes sense because I always see Rory just like running around this motherfucker. Like every time, every year, I mean, like, I just see Royals Arena. No, that's all for him, though. That has nothing to do with me. That's all his bull.

That's all his bull. That's all his bull. That's nothing to do with moral orbits. They had a- fuck yo. I've been in this game for 20 fucking years. No, I'm just saying like, being in this game.

Shout out to Duce. Like, then, y'all probably, like, you know, I imagine. No, but you know, the whole Duce Poulouza. Right, right, right, right. No, no, I'll put them perspective. And I've told the story on the pod. I've told the story on the pod plenty of times.

One time after Maine America, after we had met, I was in St. St. Thomas. And I had never met Biggs. But we had a podcast together. And I went up to Biggs and I said, hey, I do a podcast with your brother. Yeah. He said, didn't know my brother had one.

So no, I've not gotten a wristband from Biggs in my life. That's such a great story. Because that's such a big story. Like, I ain't even know. He's so disconnected at times. Yeah, no, it'd be like that. Oh, this was so early before. Yeah.

He dropped some fire emojis on my, on my picture one time or like my video or some shit like that. The Billy Owlish? No, no, no, like, boy, like 2019, something like that. I didn't know big. I thought Biggs was like a... Motivational speakers. Yeah, exactly. Like, I didn't know bigs and big's the same person.

Yeah, yeah. Like, I've seen all the quotes and shit. I'm like, I'm not all this thing. He'd be talking that talk. You would actually be dope. St. John would be dope on that record. Hey, bro, listen, we definitely could set that shit up. Same would be fire on that.

Yeah. Might be able to make something happen. We might be able to make something happen. You know, they're big option. Yeah. Not really, but yeah, I feel what you're saying. I feel what you're saying. Wrong place, wrong time.

all love, man. Water under the bridge. I said, who was it? He was like, yeah, same time. He took the lunch. Fuck you, that was funny. No one else is going to get that joke. No one else is going to get that joke with me.

I totally get it. I totally get it. So listen, what's next for you, man? Shit, just rolling out, you know, like, we did 40 billion streams for reviews or whatever. Like, this one, you know, this one, it's already at 80 million on Spotify and, what, three months and shit like that. Now it's just like, bro.

Like, let's one up it. You know what I'm saying? Let's do this shit again. do this shit over and over again. We got the EP to wrap the year out. And then we just, you know what I mean? Like, I've been having my way with this shit, bro. I've really just having fun with them.

To join it. You know, just a part of the, like, the new regime of Def Jam or whatever. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a good join because I know everybody from CEO down. Yeah. I call, you know what I mean, me and Tungji be on the phone talking about my Pedy Crack lyrics and shit. Like that just a random shit. Yeah, yeah.

So it's always just a fun shit, you know what I mean? I'm just having fun, bro. As Def Jam asked you to, like, play around with other hooks, like, Miley Cyrus, like just trying to throw certain names. Oh, they kept, they be at you. Putting a list of white people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So who else you're going to make a song about? Like, nah, nigga, this is it. Yeah, yeah. What other cultural bolster do you want to highlight? Hillary Clinton. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hillary Rodham. Right, right.

Do what Hillary Rodham would be. I don't even know what the fucking Hillary Rodham is. No, bro. You get Monica on the intro? No. No. Don't let me A&R. Don't let them box you into that.

Don't let them box you into that. Don't let that happen. They try and do so. They try to even get me to start making club records and shit like that. It's a, I mean, I just, like, at this point, like I said, I'm having my way with it. But I know what I want. I'm not one of them dudes that walked in the building. It was like, all right, man.

Like, you know, what you want to do next? Like, yo, like, I know where I'm taking it. I know exactly what I want to sound like, all that shit. So you was moving independently. Exactly. Exactly. So, even with this deal, bro, we had to like, like, I was like, I was telling better this show.

I'm like, bro, they came up. We came up before Billy out of this drop. It was like, yo, we want to do the deal. I'm like, all right, 50, 50. They said, oh, I don't know about all that. I said, that's cool. I dropped this on. They said, hey, brother.

50, 50, right? We'll make it work. We can make something. I love a good label. You're making it work. So, yeah, so we, you know, we can, now you can make it work. Right, right, right. Now that the street is going crazy.

We made that shit work for sure. Like, I put, you know, put my nuts on the table. Right. Yeah, man. That's the shit worked out. I worked out. Well, we're going to get them all to do the TikTok challenge. Listen, man.

I'm not going to do it. I do the cartwood, I'm going to be out for two of this, bro. I'm going to be honest. That's how we can't do no summer. That's how we can sell the new hoodie merch. Yeah. Just have a bunch of people doing summer socks.

Bro, real right. That's a good job. That's a good job. That's a good job. Just me doing summer solace. Just me. Like, me guys draw a beer person. Like, yo,

no. Like, I'm supposed to be like, nah, I'm going to do it. Nah, man. You got a point. Like, I see it now. I see it. Me doing summer solace is crazy.

It's art. I know. That's all right. It's not a bad idea, though. Just let me show me, DeMaris is going to have to show me some more to TikToks. I got to kind of look at this thing. Bro, if you do a somersault. I'll try it.

How the shit goes is you do a somersault, you come out as a different version of yourself. If you do a somersault and then come out as me, we're selling hoodies. Bro. You know, Monty? We sell hollies. These ideas not free, bro. These ideas not free, bro. They got to pay for this.

These ideas not free, bro. Like, listen. No, we're going to think of some cool shit to do, though. I'm expecting that TikTok. Now, we just did, though. We just thought of some cool stuff. Y'all got 72 hours. That's the idea.

No, but the marriage showed me one. It looked cool, but I don't know how we can pull that off. It looked cool, though. I ain't going to lie, but I hurt myself when I did this shit. Like, I, yeah, I'm not. Yeah. Nah, do it. But, like, yeah, I'm saying.

Nah, do it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, try it out. But, like, just, you know, it might get a little crazy in the process to try and get this shit. I'm going to look at it. I'm going to look at some more to TikTok. And the fact that that dance got to 40 billion streams.

You're a little limber. Like, you got a little. Oh. I know we're friends, but Jesus Christ. Stop looking at my lips. He saw the Lou Pair. You saw the yoga pair. You see the cast.

You came in with skinny legs on, bro. You can do that shit. You got it, bro. Oh, man. The Duce is kicking in. Real right, man. All right. So do you have anything to announce?

Anything that you'd like to talk about? He announced it. He has a project coming into the year to wrap it out. He's at 80 million streams on Spotify. 40 million views on Twitter. More streams than human beings. Yeah. There's more streams than human beings. Armadi is killing shit out here right now, man.

Look, this is wild. Who are you looking forward to seeing out here today? If you're staying around. I don't even know if you're staying. By Bonnie. By Bonnie. Yeah. Yeah. So you had that thing.

No. Edding is a bad. Yeah, yeah. He's a bad rabbit. He's not a bad rabbit. I heard you was out there when he's kissing niggins in the mouth with some shit like that.

Yeah. He was there. He was like, no. Yeah. That should be me. Nah, no, no. Edna's one of those nice people that front's like,

I mean, as long as he's happy. Yeah. I don't even know what he sees in that guy. Yeah, like, yo, like, I mean, I like him so much. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right.

Yeah. Now, I can't do this to them, now we having too much fun in. Yo, listen, man, it's all Monty White. Thank you for coming. Keep on there, bro. Good luck with you. We're going to listen out for the next project, man.

Appreciate you coming through, man. I'm going to this dude right here. My guys. So we just walked back over here from watching this artist set. And I had to tweet. I was standing next to Julian when you first went on. And I said, yo, Jid is a superstar. Just the energy from where we was at.

Incredible. Incredible. So we want to, first of all, salute you on just continuing to elevate every time we see you, every time we hear from you. We already, you know how we feel about you. You're one of those ones in our culture that's just a superstar. So anytime we see you, we got to show you love. We got to give you respect. And being out there with the fans, the energy was crazy.

I'm going to say this. With festivals, people that can actually rap, it'd be tough to get a crowd to go fucking crazy. It's very difficult. How has that changed your performance? at all. Because you're like really moving around but actually saying every fucking word. Yeah. And I feel like the fans just adapted to like what I do kind of.

Because they find that little word that I'm not saying too fast. Right. And they say, ah, they don't get that. Which is the hardest part. I'm like, oh, y'all really trying to learn this shit. Exactly. So if anybody letting you take up their mental space, it's important. Absolutely.

So yeah. Did that even change like how you made the joints on this album? Because even when I was watching your performance, it's so many certain parts now I feel like in the newer music. that is the rapidy shit and then it's a break to have somebody be able to say something back to you

like calling demand type of shit did that change when making the album was like fuck I gotta remember I'm getting booked for festivals now you create with that in mind like what the crowd is going to get so with the second project DeCaprio 2 which was way more energetic

and stuff I was on that that's why most of the songs I performed today were from that project I didn't really get into this one because this one is more personal I just had this one off I wasn't really thinking about nobody the label anybody. I hated everything but my family at that moment.

But when you did on stage it was funny because we was on the side and we was looking and they told you you have four minutes left. Cat me down. And then you jumped what I knew wanted to be, you wanted it to be your end set. You went right into stick. But you went into the fucking audience.

Climed the light pole. And then when you came back there's like, now you got like 15 minutes left. And we saw it your face like, what? That was supposed to be the... It confused me. I'm getting ready to walk off in depth. It confused me because we thought 6 o'clock he was done.

So I was chilling and then I saw four minutes. I was like, fuck, I get back to the trailer to set up for this interview. And this is like 5.30. I'm like, it said it was 20 minutes and I was like, me good. When I saw you going to the cross that he's going to be pissed that that wasn't it. It's like. But you went right, you went to the right record next. Yeah, it worked.

Yeah, it worked. Me and Benner walked leaving and her stick was like, oh, yeah, it's about to explode this entire fucking spot. I thought he was going to leave too. I was like, oh, okay, they got... No, fans was fainting. I don't know if you saw it. They had to pull people out of the pit. No, it's superstar shit now.

Like, that's your last year on that stage. Let's just say that. You will not be on that stage anymore. It's over for that shit. Yeah. That shit felt good, though. It did. It looked good.

With this album... This album, it's funny you brought that up, that this one was more family shit, more that... I feel like the last three projects, including the Dreamville joint, all you've been trying to do is show everyone I rap better than you.

Let me get the hardest drums. I'm not pissed off, but I'm better than you, so let me prove that. You know what it is? I kind of, I mean to cut you. Oh, no, go ahead. I kind of planned it like, you know how you write an essay? Mm-hmm. Your opening lines, the open paragraph is an attention grabber.

Right. For the past few years, it's been my attention grabber. Okay. This album is getting into the essay. The three paragraphs in front of the body of it. And I feel like I planned it like that because I wanted them know, like, I can rap better than you. And then you start singing and shit. Niggas start trying to really construct songs.

I'm doing XVIs, 32 the most. Like, you feel like. It took you, and I felt like you took a lot of time off. Is that because you were trying to get out of rapper competition mode and fully get into that? You got to unlearn. You got to really be like a manning this shit. Unlearn, bro. This whole process, for me, not, from me dropping, not, I dropped my last solo single project was 2018.

And of course, we toured 2019. Yeah. Revenge, 2020. We did some belliger shit. 21. That's when I was really holding in on the album and then we dropped this year. So it was just really those moments of like, all right, I got to be a better artist. Like, you can rap. We go freestyle all day. Right.

That's a little part of the reason I didn't start off the project with like, oh, dude freestyle and then go drop the album. Like, let me wait this out. I got a crazy freestyle prepared. And yeah, bro, just trying to be better, man. As a man, like stepping. I'm, I just stepped in the 30. So it's like a whole different mindset, bro. Right. Yeah.

Shit is way different. Yes, sir. Who are some of the artists that you've ever DMed that never responded? That never got that to you that you wanted to work with? Sizzler. That would be fire. I got messages from 2016. I'm saying, like, hey, man, we're going to be able to respond?

She probably just never seen it because I got a message. I'm sure. And we're in the request. And we're Scorpio. So I feel like when we meet it's going to be a divine time. It's going to be organic. Yeah. I'm a tourist.

I don't reply to DM. I'm going to say that next time. Okay. Just when I was born. I can't do it. I don't even look at requests. And just Sizzle, just because I just wanted to tap in because she cool his hair. I just think she's a cool person.

I just think your whole person or whatever it is cool. You're a Scorpio, so we might think alike. And then vocally, what you can do, and then I just, I hear it. I see the mix. It's funny that you said Sizzar first. Just from outside looking as a fan, I do feel like there's a friendly yet not really friendly tension between TDE and Dreamville. In a good way. Yeah, yeah, and it's beautiful.

But I feel like, y'all, it's love, but it's like we're better than y'all. In some direction. Yeah, it could be coming from either sides. Mm-hmm. I'm, I need my own Dreamville, so. I feel them. What's so with the Earth Gang? Earth Gang is amazing.

They about going to tour of guerrillas, bro. Wow. Yeah, they're going to tour of gorillas. Also, that means no Spillage Village, new album anytime. We're working on some stuff. We're working on some stuff. So I think we're going to get something out, but no, not for 20. Okay.

No, I'm not sure. It's 22, y'all. Right. It's about to be 2023. The summer's over. September. 2020. I feel about that.

I just turned in my end. Like, life is a blur. I mean, it's to the 30. Should become a blur. It's, um, this year has been, this. Unlearning. That's why I like that word. I think this year you had to unlearn some shit.

Yeah. This was a year of unlearning. I think last year we learned a lot about ourselves. I love it. We can tolerate and put up with how we can adjust with the whole pandemic shit. Yeah. And I think this year we had to unlearn a lot of shit. Yeah.

And I'm looking forward to 23 for sure. And figuring out what you still fucking like. That was a nice part of the pandemic. Yeah. Because we were doing so much stuff we had to do. Now it's like, all right. Damn. It's, it's,

stripped a bunch of shit that I didn't need to do, like even walking into a fucking office or really keeping up with certain people I don't need to. Now I was trying to figure out what mattered and what didn't at that time. What's an boy and type shit? That's hot. Yeah. That's hot. I went to your listening, which was phenomenal, by the way.

My dog. And I love the art gallery type shit you guys did downstairs. One of my favorite album covers of the year. Have you fully explained what that meant? Because you did it, the album listening. And I thought the entire thing was beautiful. So can you explain what that album represents and what it is? and down to your entire family within every image from that project.

It just, it came from, it's a sequel, I always do sequel project, so this is a sequel to the Never Story. Yeah. And basically, I wanted to bring those images from the initial cover to life. It was almost like a where's Wardlefield, but you're in the hood. For sure. And it's a whole lot of black trauma going on. It's positive things.

You got football players here. You got a mother braiding her daughter's hair, but you got a body bag. And you got all these different scenarios that we go through. ask people, it don't even got to be black trauma. It's all type of trauma and everybody goes through stuff. So at the same time, it's me trying to bring that to the light. And then I'm in the initial album cover, I'm kind of like to the right, kind of outside of it. And this one, I'm like, dead in the middle of it.

Just like, yeah, I came back to the city. Where's trauma? Yeah. And where's that? Right in the middle of it. Exactly. So we brought that to life. And just a lot of my family members on their cousins, brothers, sisters, just placed in here strategically to explain.

And you know what's crazy? Album covers, I heard they can get Grammys now. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Check me on that. Check me on that. If that's true, that's amazing. That needs to be in there, though, for real.

Yeah. Why wouldn't it? I think that's another piece of art. Artists deserve that. Absolutely. The artists that work hard on these albums. To me, that's like, wow. The fact that they would make that.

Yeah. So I believe that's crazy. I believe that might have been intentional. Because I mean, down to all the Grammy shit that people don't televise, like down to the writing credits and all that shit. Yeah, that should definitely be there. That's album cover. And that needs to. And that needs to be broken down into every genre as well, not just, let's just give it to Taylor Swift.

Yeah. Shit is in Starbucks. I hope that's done properly. I was talking to guru backstage. He was watching you perform. Oh, do. He hears. Yeah, he is.

I was watching your set. And I was telling him, I was like, yo, I was listening to Jid's album on the way here from L.A. I just had it on, fell asleep, but I could still hear it. Yeah. And I was like, just the sound of the album. It just sounds so good. Like, I had Vince Staples. album. It's probably one of my favorite, but this Jit album is right there for me already.

Yeah. Appreciate that, brother. And sonically, because I feel like you would have the opportunities now to get in the rooms with all your favorite producers growing up and that it still felt like the internal Jid crew. Yeah. Like it didn't feel like, all right, I finally kind of got my status out there. Yeah. Let me do the Timberlin. For real, let me just hit me in everyone that I could. Is that something eventually want to do or want to stay away from it? I want to happen organically. Yeah. You feel me? I got my guy.

You know what I'm saying? Drake got 40. You're DJ too, right? Yes, Christo. He's an amazing composer. I tapped in with all the hit boy Metro boom is my brother. Shout out to my dog. Boy Wonder.

I tapped in with Farrell. I tapped in with Timberland for this. But for what were you trying to do, the sequel, we had to keep some of the essence of it. You know what I'm saying? But I tapped in with James Blake. You know what I'm saying? Literally the beat that's on the album. I don't know if you want me to say this.

Sorry, James, I love you. He, the only person he sent that beat to was $100,000. He's like, that's the only person I think you can do it. And then he sent me to beat. I was like, oh, this is perfect. Let me get Thundercat on here. Let's, let's mess it up. Let's get crazy.

Right. Lot or two. It's the last song for now because we can, this last song, clit or whatever. But that, if you listen to the James Blake production, this electric movie and then you hear of Chang's, just fucking Thundercat come in. Oh, my gosh. It's like one of the greatest pieces of these I ever been involved in. How did James Blake connection come together?

When I saw that track list, because I'm a James Blake fan. And when his album dropped, I was like, shit. Not that I was surprised, but it was still like, it was like, okay. We didn't expect a James. But I could see James wanted to go that route as far as rap features go. James is a ally, brother.

When 2020 was happening, and I was telling him, I was like, bro, where Rashad Brooks got killed at his what's name? Like I stayed right there. They marched right outside my crib. I was so mad at the world with me. We were on the phone talking for hours just about what's going on with us over here. And he's trying to wrap his mind. around it. And I'm telling him in the most crazy

ways, bro. Like, I'm trying to explain how it is in Atlanta, being from Atlanta, being from the South being, whatever. He's furious with me. I'm like, wow. You are more than music, bro. You are a whole essence. You're a unicorn in this shit because you really give a fuck about real matters and we didn't even start

doing music at. By the time we started getting into music, it was like that. You used to be in New York as much you used to? Yeah, I'm coming back for Fashion Week. Okay. Okay. So let's get up. So let's tap in. That actually, that actually be better because I'm here for like three, four days.

Okay, that's fine. So we'll do that then. Well, listen, Jay, I'd be in New York. I don't think people know that. No, he'd be in New York. I be on a block. That's why I got my bars from. He'd be in New York.

I got my bars from here. I was walking down in Lutlo. That's my boy. One day I was walking down in the summer time, right? It's Ludlow in the summertime. Somebody with a whole mask and dreads come run down on me.

I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. Pulls the mask down as Jid. I'm like, like, what's you doing on Lutlo? What you're doing on? What you're doing on those spots? right?

I'm not remember that. I was like, what the fuck? That's funny, bro. But yeah, we'll definitely get up. Thank you for taking time, especially after the performance. I know that shit is a lot. Yeah, I'm going to go catch some of this doo-say. Let's take a shot.

Definitely get some of this do say for sure. Yes, sir. Let's do it. J.D., thank you, man. Appreciate y'all, man. All right, we back, man. Listen, the bad thing about this Rory is that being here doing these artists interviews, we missed the performances.

And fresh off the stage, we got my guy Larry June with us, man. Who I want to do a man. Full, full episode with one day. This was on the list. Yeah, we had you on the list of dudes we wanted to say. And we go do that. Numbers, baby. We got to do that.

Absolutely. So we're here with Larry June, the base finest. How you doing, man? How was the performance? I'm doing good today. You know what I'm saying? It was great and good energy. You're very professional.

You know what I'm talking about? You know, we're on Doucet. Hey, man, I can't complain. Man, we did numbers. It was a great crowd. Right. We rocked it and we was in and out like fast food. What joint from the new album went off the most?

shit, man. With me, perj, I tell you my favorite. Okay. So my favorite, you know what I'm saying? When I'm waking up in the morning

I'm putting that shit on, brushing my teeth, I talk on another day part two. Okay. Real smooth play or shit. You know, I'm talking about bringing a nigga back into them times.

If I'm feeling real smooth and I want to, you know, holl at my lady, get her some frozes and something. Okay. I'll talk some of that things you do. You know what I'm saying?

I'm calling real macchish. Okay. Don't check me, man. Check that bitch. Is that how you put a project together? Just certain, is that how you put projects together in certain records? You know, I got, I'm a human.

You know, I got different, different ways I feel at a certain time. You know, I might, you know, I might feel like, you know, I'm feeling love you today. Right. You know, I might be feeling like a magnet. I might be feeling like I want to slap the fuck out of a nigga, but, you know what I'm saying? I might be wanting to sip some motherfucking orange juice. Right. But, you know, I'm talking about that's how I feel.

We don't put no filters on this motherfucker. We get in the booth. Because I know you're a big car guy. Favorite car ever. You know, when it comes to cars, man, it's about how I feel that day. I might wake up in the morning and feel like I want to sliding that old school

so I might jump in that Grand Nats turn the AC on the slide up the ocean beach grab me a hot tea or some shit I might be feeling like I want to really

get real grand charismo I might hop in the GT port GT3 course okay you know what I'm saying and bend some corners I might just feel like a dad

hopping at Bentager you know what I'm saying so when it when it comes to course it's about how I feel like you know my my core really influenced my music a lot you know what I'm saying

like I'm saying like I jump in my my vet. If I jump into my 87 vet right now with the orange guts, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go get into my real 80s bag. Okay. I'm gonna get real groovy.

You know, I'm gonna, suck it to me. Yeah, baby. When I get in that motherfucker, I'm only playing prints. Yeah.

I'm only playing, you know what I'm saying? Only the good 80s, smooth shit. I don't, if my shit come on, got to go. So anything got to go.

So the car, what's the car on the cover now? That's my, on that car I put the GT3. my Porsche. I love Porsche because, you know, Porsche got a lot of longevity. I can keep that car forever as long as it'd be a classic.

So you think it fit the album? Yeah, so I put the Porsche in the Bentley, the Bentley GT. I put my GT to the GT speed, the fucking sports car, two door. I put those two on there because it brought on both sides to me where it's like this album is more like I'm turned up and I'm on my speed shit, but I'm also smooth. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So I put both of them on there. Talk that shit. Talk that's why we got to really sit down with Larry. Yeah. Because he's one of those. He's shit talking. He's,

sipping his juice, talking shit. But it's all 100. You know what I'm saying? Whatever I ain't writing this shit, man. I'm going to tell a nigga that exactly how I feel right now. Two car questions.

How many points are on your license? Are you a Geico guy? What type of insurance are we going through? Come on, man. Man, you know, at the 9th and I stay on 10, so I don't got there any parking ticket.

I got one speeding ticket. I wasn't driving mine. Okay. I was driving a bitch car up to the fucking Camero on my way to L.A. to get a chain. And I got a speeding ticket, just because I didn't really know how to do the windows in that car was a little different. Only speed ticket ever had in my life. I'm sliding to Rory. I'm sliding all this shit.

I'm hitting 1.30. But I pay attention. Yeah. I pay attention, though. I do it for a certain amount of time. Niggas be speeding too long. Yeah, yeah. You can speed, but don't speed for two minutes straight.

Yeah. You got to be able to watch your surroundings. And you got to let the one nigga pass you that speed and it kind of tail in a little bit. Come on. He's going, I'm fine. I see the wrist. I know you ain't playing okay. I don't know.

Come on. That nigga pay attention. Numbers. You know what I'm saying? Look. Absolutely. I know. You got to watch out because I ain't trying to get pulled over.

No. I don't want to like I light the sound. That's why I drive fast at like 5.30 in the morning when the sun coming up, I go down. I'm slide. Right. Yeah. You got fun at those hours. I'm putting in corners.

You know what I'm talking about? But like on a regular day, no, I'm not, you know, I'm driving. We ain't in the rush. You see me? You see me, baby? I'm not to start talking my shit. Chill out. Don't do that.

Don't do that. I don't do that. I don't even like that you compliment them right now because now you're going to have it back. I don't want to see that talking about. Hey, come on, man. And we go do numbers, man. We just keep in real. I'm a regular nigga like everybody else.

The car just got fast. No, I feel. That's my type of talk. So who's some of the artists out here that you're looking forward to seeing perform live? And all you know what? Do you go to shows a lot? Hey, I don't go to a lot of shows. My son when I see Tyler the Critter.

Hell of bad. You know what I'm saying? I know what I'm saying? So I'm going to come back and come see Tyler the credit with my son. Okay, that's fine. Yeah, be here, he's excited for it. You know what I'm saying? Good job, time.

Real artists. Real artists. Real artists. I love how his shows put together. He put a lot of energy into a show. Yeah, it's my first time I'm actually seeing it, but I'm excited, though. Okay. It should be fun.

Speaking of other artists, are you familiar with the group emotional oranges? And are you aware of the beef between your fan base and theirs about the orange emoji? No, I never heard of the beef. Heard of them, though. Okay. It's only one of O'Lerry. Number of them. Because the fan base of emotional oranges

Have been in a versus battle Who can put more orange emotions? Let's cut this now I'm not an orange nigga I just stay healthy You see the shirt You know what I'm saying I do I'm a nigga from the hood

I came outside I'm pretty sure we came from Completely different backgrounds Nigger from the hood You know what I'm talking about And I switch my lifestyle And the orange Civilized me staying healthy

On the punk bitch I like And that is what it is It's not it's not You know like I go to my house It might be hell of mango My motherfucking for journey

You know what I'm talking about Keep it calm. So much of the emotional oranges is all love. I didn't even know it was a beef. Maybe I don't be on Twitter. It's not a real piece. It's not a real beauty. It's just who could put more orange emojis in a comedy.

Hey, they can have it. Oh, no. They fuck with you heavy. Keep the orange. It's you. I fuck with them. Have them in my free. My civilization behind the orange is completely different.

It was more about me. Honestly, you want to know why I kept an orange on me? So when I was working my game, I had a different lifestyle. I don't like to get into deeper to that. If you know, you know, you know what I'm talking about. But I used to get anxiety going through TSA at the airport. Okay. And an orange, I needed like some kind of liquid.

You ever get anxiety when you feel like, I need some war? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like, you know, I'm a regular nigga. Like it is what it is. So the orange made me feel a little comfort when I was going through the TSAs. Like a stress ball. Like a stress ball. And particularly, I was going through Canada.

And I just needed to have an orange. And the nigger came with my, I got some of my nigger. You like, man, Larry, why y'all got an orange with you? And I told him a story. And I noticed I always had it. I had bad anxiety at a point of my life. Overcame it, you know what I'm saying? Anything is possible.

And I'm doing good now and I'm doing numbers. That's why I promote the peaceful shit so much. We're taking walks, taking jobs and keep your mind at peace because it is what it is. It's kind of weird. That's a beautiful explanation. But like I told you, it is what it is. So that's what the orange came in part of me. And niggas, I didn't ask for the orange to be my shit.

The people did. Right. I didn't say, hey, I'm going to go get an orange and here it is. But no, the people see me. I'm at shows. And I started asking myself, damn, I do. I'll leave a crib and I just have one.

Some days I didn't even eat the motherfucker. But that's the beauty of your family. They will create the branding on my. They have got orange watches and shit. You know what I'm saying? You feel I mean? That's for the people. Man, y'all made me like these motherfuckers.

Don't ask me about no motherfuck of orange beef. And that and that is- Crazy too. No, the emoji beef is wild. And that is I know the meaning behind it. Yeah, that's dope. It's super fire. It's real.

It is what it is. Like, I'm always keeping 100. Man, it might not be the most brightest shit to the motherfucker. I know right. It makes sense. It makes sense. But it is what it is.

Like when you, it was a point of time where I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't live into how I wanted to live. And I didn't really feel good about it. And it gave me anxiety. And the Orange made me feel better, man. So good old, good job, Orange. I think, uh, outside of doing a full episode, we have to find like a race track. There's the poor shit in Atlanta that we could do.

We got to do, we have to race. More, you got a valid license? No. All right. We got to get more valid license. You don't get more valid license. Oh, you know real niggas drive a bunch of cars. You're right.

You right. I got one of my little. streets of racing. No, maybe we can't go to the actual track. We need to do that. By the time we sit down and shoot, I'm going to get the valid license. Get the license, man. I'm going to get the license.

Let's go to the license. I'm going to pull the shit out. I'm not a racer. I'm not a racer. I'm not going to get the niggas. I got to get the niggas off you. I don't say niggas pull up in foeot tools. It wasn't even me particularly.

I didn't see the OG come through high speed chases and foe tool. Yeah. Toyota are the super's. Yeah. Super charged 5.0. So when I grew up like, you know, I need to have.

Right. This shit, I don't get a fucking as a truck or a car. Give me the fast kind. I feel you. You know what I'm saying? I like that content. We're going to definitely sit down with Larry. If we got to go to the band shoot some shit, we're going to definitely do some super cool shit.

I feel like the car show aspect of just music, hip-hop period, is gone. Like Flex used to do his car show all the time. I feel like that was more of a thing now. DJ Envi still does his car show. Yeah. I feel like you got to do something around. Nobody got more cars than currency. No, that's the fact.

Currency got an extra car. Yeah, that's the fact. I get to New Orleans. Hey, draw this. Yeah, yeah. I'm in a low rider. I'm like, I'm like,

I'm gonna drive this, my own do low rider. I'm a 5.0 muscle car kind of nigga and I'm sliding it. I'm in a motherfucker. I don't know what I'm in, but I'm sliding in that motherfucker. You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think currency should do a car show. Yeah, that would be high. Because he does, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking? He got all kind of shit. He got shit in the cut.

Share out of the garage. I think the younger generation needs their car show. For sure. I mean, who would you think? And it's younger generation. Yeah, Curcy would definitely be up there. I don't know. I feel like, who's the car dude anymore?

There ain't nobody. I don't know. Cursey to car, nigga. Like, I like car. I like car that came from my, like, you know, my Pousel hell of cars growing up and shit. Like, I looked up to Pous and I was young. He had all kind of 5.0s, Toyo's, Super,

4-4 tools to all kind of shit. So, you know what I'm saying? I kind of was inspired by that whole shit. And then seeing a nigga coming through the hood and grand nashes. And, like, you know, I was inspired. I was right there in the flesh show. But when it comes to these cars shows, like currency got to come with a car show

because nobody fucking with currency. Because see, that's how we'll find out about the cars now. Because he got more cars. Yeah. He got extra shit. Well, he got to host. He got to post out of this shit. Everybody else bring two cars.

Currency could host the shit. And we find out with the young kids that have the cars now because I wouldn't even know, which is crazy because you feel like Instagram, you would know who was the car dude at this point. And a nigga like me, I got certain cars I got certain cars I keep. Some cars I get rid of an update.

I live in San Francisco. Yeah. So, like, I don't got, like, a massive parking garage or those shit. I got, like, my, I keep my old school, so I got a parking garage, like, 20 miles out. Yeah, I'm talking about. But, like, I get rid of shit. Like, mom, I have my 63 GT Benz got rid of that, and I jumped into Bentley. You know, I said, I get rid of shit and I lease certain cars.

Okay. Because, you know, tax purposes. Yeah, sure. Money got a mold. It is. And some cars just don't appreciate well. I keep all my Rouries. I keep all my portions and shit like that, but some shit.

But Currins, he keeping everything. He keeps everything. He keeps everything. That need got everything. You probably got something, you know, like a pair of socks and something. Good job, Curse. What's the best place to drive in San Francisco or Bay Area in general? For me, man, you know I, I love waking up early, right?

Give me some hot tea, maybe Earl Gray, Sunday starting the morning up. And I drive through. You know what I'm saying? You know, but, Larry, good job, Earl. You know what I'm saying? I'm a slide through. I'm a slide to soft solitos. You know what I'm saying?

I might have one of my, you know, a lady friends with me, you know, heated seats, you know what I'm talking about. And I've been to Conan, now I'm peaceful with it. I'm only playing, like, smooth shit. Lately it's been Slum Village. I might talk about some Donnell Jones, who's music soul child. Nothing too aggressive.

Nothing too aggressive. You know, I'm not trying to knock a nigga. I'm not trying to kill them. I don't want no fear. I'm just trying to slide through smooth. Right. make sure my shoes clean I know it might sound a little

you know Larry doing the extra that's really how I live this is not no motherfucking why right nigga when you see Uncle Larry you see how I'm coming he's a motherfucking anniversary joint I put that shit on there this is my first time putting them on

okay so I'm gonna call he's my motherfuckerer the made in America buss down numbers nigga good job Larry straight up that's the cut right there yeah before we let you go real quick question

because we just got to ask lunch with Jay Z or 200k cash shit 200k easy I got that I go get that in the morning so I might have lunch with Jay Z I almost turned down 200K three days ago me personally so you know it's different it's different

strokes for different folks right you know what I'm talking I ain't flexing I was just broke five years ago right right right but as if today right you can do the lunch with Jay it's about building relationships yeah with certain people he might not do nothing for me I don't I'm not asking for a handout right but it'd be more of experience again 200k

I can go yes 200 it's 20 22, 200K, that's like, what is that? A car? Talk your shit. It is what it is. Hold on. That's Patty. That's Patty.

Yeah. It is weird. I'm not even flexing. I'm not the richest thing in the world, but I know, I know 200K ain't the same as it was in the 90. It's definitely not. Nigger gas, $10 in the bank, $8 in a bank. $200 minimum wage don't wind up $200K differently.

So maybe you said two meal, give me the two mill. I'm going, hey, Jay, I'll see you next time. It is what it is, but 200K. Jay is taking the money. to me. I go, nigo spend 50 in Hawaii on some cat off shit. Right. It is what it is. Like, not to be in my humblest way, because I'm like I say, I'm not flanking a lot of the richest nigga in the world, but like, good job. You know what I'm saying, numbers.

Yeah. Well, listen, man, we're definitely going to pull up in the bay and sit down and kick it with you. Like, we have a real peace with you. Yeah. Show us around the town, drive some cars and shit. We want to appreciate. We want to thank you for stopping by kicking with us in this airstroom. We had to end for you. We had to end for you. Come on, man. I appreciate y'all. Y'all can't be all away 100. Y'all made it real comfortable for me, man. Larry June, thank you, bro.

Numbers, one love, soccer something. Yeah, Meg Dostalian versus photographer versus catcher. Who was the best knees? I'm going to Mike Piazza. Oh, yeah. Mike over Megan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike Piazza.

You going to Meg? Y'all seen Meg. I've seen Meg. Jorge Pasada. Jorge Posada, then. I've seen Mike Piazza catch for 14 innings. That's true. I've never seen Meg catch for 14 innings.

What's going on, bro? Not much, man. Just got off the stage. How you feeling? I feel good, man. It's my first made in America. First one? It's not really my first.

I did Maine America in 2017 as a background singer. Who were you with? Vic Menta. Okay, shout out to Vic. And you did his tour as well for the 4-44. Yes, I did. That was a really, really good tour. Yeah.

Well, shit, before we get even into that, the voice? Is that where everything starts as far as major steps? Yeah, I think that's the first, like, major, like, TV moment I had. Yeah, and just, like, being in front of that many people, that was the first time. And did you do the whole wait in line American Idol type shit? You skip right to the front. I skip to the front. I skip to the front.

I skipped to the front. I did. Well, what happened was I had auditioned quite a few times. Okay. And I did wait in line one time. I think I had auditioned like three or four times. Who waited in line with you? I don't remember.

I don't remember. There wasn't anybody like, you know, I was kind of there by myself. Yeah. So I wasn't, I didn't, a lot of people go as friends, like with friends and all that shit. I went by myself. So I was just so focused on doing a good job. I wasn't really paying attention. The Farrell, how did they word it as far as you were on Farrell's team?

I forget how the structure of that show goes. I was on Farrell's team. He was my coach. That's how they word it. Was that the one that you were hoping? Yeah, that's who, I mean, that's really like why I did the show that season. Who would other judges that season? It was Adam from a room five.

Okay. Oh, I think about saying Adam 22. Oh, no, it wasn't Adam 22. Man, that would be wild. That would have been a great. That would have been a crazy voice. Oh, my God. That would be wild.

He could do the SoundCloud rapper voice. Yeah, he could. All the Lils. Yes. A little voice. Yeah, low voice. Yeah. Hosted by Adam 22.

And I think Gwen Stefani was the other job. Okay. Have you spoken to Farrell since like, have you worked with him? Yeah, man. Farrell's been a mentor. He's been very, a very good influence in my life and in my career. Yeah, he was my coach. And then I ended up doing some work for his company, I Am Other, as a music producer.

And so I made a lot of friends there. But P's been in my life for a minute. And yeah Listen, how do the ladies treat you now that you're working with Beyonce? I'm going to get right to it. And are you a Virgo? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

I'm a Leo. Okay. But I'm a Virgo in three of my houses. So I do get along with. Three of your houses. Yeah. So I'm like. So the ladies are treating you really good.

Yeah, they like me right now. Wait, hold on. Three. Let's break this down. Are you in like a triplet, triplet? What's that shit called? Like, you date three people? No, no, no, no.

Like, no, no, not polyamress. A thruple. your house is meaning like in your astrological chart okay my grand rising yeah all of that shit all of that sunrise lunch yeah yeah

brunch yeah yeah so yeah three of those are Virgo so I vibe well with Virgo who's the one artist that you DM that has not responded to you yet Jasmine Sullivan oh she's here today

you gotta run down run down on jazz if I know check and we have a bunch of mutuals and like my homie's saying background for but like I've always She's incredible. Yo, she's so good, bro. She's so good.

Yeah, and Kendrick. But you know, he's not. I don't think he checks his DMs to begin with you. Bro, I don't even know if Kendrick has a phone. His kid's my DM and he might be out. Yeah. Kendrick, we can kind of understand. He's got a flip phone for sure.

But Jazz is definitely like, oh, I didn't even know about the request section. Yeah. That's that whole thing. You know, she's so talented, bro. She's so talented. She deserves all of this. Number one vocally for me. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You won't be working with Beyonce anymore after that. I'll just let you know that now. Nah, man. Nah, it's going to all work out. I'm going to get to keep working with everybody.

Listen, I need the work. Give me the work. I want that shit. I want to work with everybody. You got a project coming? Yes. O4 Daisy. It's a labor of love, man.

It's the first time where I really feel like I'm getting super free as an artist. I think working with all these great artists that I've worked over the last two years, man. It's just encouraged me to like make the shit I want to hear. versus trying to make the shit that I think people want to hear. Yeah, for sure. And I feel like if I can connect to it, then I can, you know, get an audience to connect to it. What's the significance of that title?

Oh, for Daisy. So Daisy is an operating system. You all are getting it first that takes over my life. Okay. Did she a stem player? She's not a stem player. Shout out to Kanye, though. Another person who hasn't answered DMs.

Oh, he's been going on to crazy right now. He's been active the last couple days. I feel like he should see that. Just check your request, my name. You just posted, bro. Yeah. So she's an operating system. She's a bad bitch.

Like, she, you know, she changes my life. And she's a part of this new sound that I'm building. Have you seen the movie, Her? Yeah. Is it like that? Yeah, kind of sort of. Okay. So this is like the prequel.

So I'm doing it in order. So this one is the prequel. Like people are, you know, figuring out, you know, who she is, what she might be. But it's not quite answering all the questions yet. And then there's another project coming. right after that, that provides a physical representation of Daisy. So you're excited about it.

I don't know how familiar you are with Twitter. Because I feel like a lot of artists, you know, they just post their album and keep it moving. They don't be in the Twitter streets. I'm on Twitter. Are you active? I'm here. Are you aware of LLC Twitter? No.

Okay. LLC Twitter is the people that try to guide you through all your business endeavors. That's where they know. Yeah. They give you the greatest advice. So a long time ago, somebody, a proud member of LLC Twitter, said they would rather take lunch with Jay-Z than $50,000 cash because Jay-Z would teach them how to make $50,000 cash. Us being logical people said that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard my life, you should take that $50,000. I don't even eat lunch.

Like, I'm just one of those people. I know it's, you're with Rock. So I don't know if it's the right question. Yeah. So maybe we should up up the price. We've got to up the Andy a little bit. So lunch with Jay-Z or- You're publishing.

well technically he has a piece of that but yeah I don't know man you know to get the rare opportunity to sit with Jay I have you know he was next to me at the Oscars I haven't had that sit down yet so I feel like for me at this point where I am I would love to sit down with Jay versus I mean also

I don't need the 50 bands right now so I mean you know I can tell about the denim in the books. I don't necessarily need the 50 bands right now. If I needed it, I'm definitely taking the 50 bands. And if you're starting out, nigga, take the 50 bands. Like, what are you talking about? But I am signed to him and I think he's a wealth of knowledge.

And for me, right now in my career, I would love to sit down and talk to Jay. Okay. You get a text from Jay and Farrell at the exact same time. Say I'm in a session. I need you now. You go to Farrell studio or you go to Jay's. And you can't tell them that, yo, Farrell just hit me.

Jay just hit me. You got to make a decision. Which studio are you going? And then leave the other one on red. It's probably Jay. Okay. Because I think Farrell would understand why I need to go to Jay. You see what I'm saying?

Like, Farrell got a text one time that said, Jay needs you to pull up and he went and then we got all these beautiful records. So I feel like, I think Farrell will understand. I hope you would. God, I hope you would. This is going to be on fucking. Well, I hope it happens so you can report back and let us know. For sure.

He going to block my ass. But no. No, I think he would understand. I think he would get it. Well, yeah, man, it was good to chop it up for you. I'm looking forward to hearing the project. Yeah, man. And let's go see Jasmine perform so we could.

Oh, yeah, we're definitely besides things. We're like little girls tonight. Also, are y'all going to see Tyler? Oh, for sure. That's another person. That's another person. That's another person. That's going to introduce me to Tyler, which is, but we never got to work.

And I'm like itching. I got to work with Tyler. I miss the Madas and Square Garden show, so, yeah, I have to see this. Definitely. I miss the LA show. I miss the L.A. show. I want to catch Bad Bunny. Yeah, that's going to be an incredible show.

He puts on a wild show. I want to be, like, far away from the stage for Bad Bunny. Oh, bro, no, just understand. I'm going to be at the little tent, whatever. I'm going to be nervous, yeah. Little shit is up there. I'm there because I can't mosh with everybody. They're going to be in there, but it's just going to be too much.

It's going to be a lot. It's going to be a lot. It's going to be a lot. It's going to be a lot of kicking with us. We appreciate you. Peace. All right, listen, man, I got to be honest. I'm disappointed.

I'm mad. I'm upset. him a lot of things right now because the one artist that I said I was not going to miss Rory because I missed her when we went LA at the Rock Nation party. Yeah, you're a terrible person. And she just got offstage, she performed

but with the talented, beautiful, super cool Ombrey. I'm so mad I miss you again. I'm sorry. And I said... I'm just waiting for this apology. We're going to catch you next week. Do you believe his apology?

I believe it. I'm sorry, And I'm just this shit has to stop. Because I was sitting here and I was like, damn, I want to see Armba. I didn't think you were going on so soon, but how are you feeling? It's good to see you. Feel good. How was the set?

How was the crowd? They was lit, actually. I had like a whole group in the front that was like singing all the words and shit. That was the first time that ever happened to me. Like, how does that feel? Like, you know, when you step out there and so many people know the lyrics? Yeah. It's a little invasive though, no?

Invasive? Like, stop singing about my life. You don't even know me? Why y'all know my word? Yeah, like what you're saying? Like they know my government name and shit? It's not, Ambray? No, it's individually, right?

I'm not going to say it. Y'all can look it up. Oh, well, then let's get into some deep-dive shit, because I know you've done press and I was going to ask the regular shit. Your album cover, well, EP cover, what do you call it? At this point, everything's an album. Yeah. It's a collection.

Yeah. One of the best covers I've seen in a while. Thank you. Who in that picture from your family, you was like, nah, I don't really rock what you like that. You can't be in this photo. I'm dead. Because we all have those family members.

I want to see your text messages when that photo came out. I know people are like, like the family group, yo, she's doing her. Like, her album, and like,

you ain't called me for that. I don't know if you really can be in it. I definitely got some angry calls like, why you ain't tell me you wasn't, you wasn't in here? But I was just like, bro, I have a big family.

Like, that's just like, I'm not going to get everybody every time. Right. Yeah. So, you know, but I mean,

there's nobody in the picture day. I would be like, I don't watch him. I mean, it's my family. Anybody behind the lens that. was a little salty like,

yo, I could fit right there. Like they was there, but not in the shot? I don't think so. I mean, my grandma wasn't in it. Well, one of my grandmas. Okay. But she was in the video. The other granny is mad.

She's salty about that. She was a little like. Oh, for sure. One granny made it and the other one then? Nah, it's granny beef now. Especially if that was Granny's house. Is that Granny's house? She got granny beef now, for sure.

There's definitely granny beef. And bless everyone that still has both their grandparents. There is some grandmother beef, I feel like, all the time. Like, granny's be, she's right. She don't even know how to cook. You know what it is.

She don't even know how to cook. Her greens is terrible. Her son doesn't treat you right, but, you know. I mean, if she's happy, I am. No, Grant, no, you're not. You miserable. How has things been since the project came out? Because I had seen you, the first time we met in person,

the project was about to come out and you played me a bunch of stuff. I showed up super late to your. And you was like, this shit, charge. I did, yeah. Don't put it out. That was my, and you went against everything I said, which I thought was weird because I'm your A&R. But,

How's everything been since? It's been great. I feel like... Don't give me the political answer. How's it been? It's not political. I'm just thinking about what I want to say. But this is the first time I put out a project

and I've received like this much love. I mean, obviously it's like with time you grow as an artist and shit. But I don't know. I just feel different this time for some reason. It's like I'm making it. a statement. It's like who I am type of thing, you know?

And you think that drives directly from the writing? Because I felt that way the first time I heard it. I was like, oh, I know this person now. Maybe, yeah. I mean, I did intentionally make it more personal than, like, my other projects

just because I'm so, like, I don't know what's the word, but... Yeah, I don't know. I'm good. So the project, to me, was one of my favorite projects of the year so far. I love... You heard it here first.

Has there been an artist that's DMJew that you looked at and was like, not working with you? A lot. But it's not like... Like one that we would know, not like just someone that says, check out my SoundCloud. It just be like, random people, I'd be like, what the fuck, you go to their page and they pay...

First of all, they page be private. That's always stupid. You want to work? How much? How much check your music out? Like, what's your feature rate? And then, like, there's no music to be found on their page. Like, why would I?

Give me a link or something. Yeah. Well, no, then they put it in the DMs and you can't even click the link. Yeah. I'm not going out my way to copy and paste this and then go to my browser to listen to your fucking SoundCloud music. What are you working on as far as like the 2020? Is it a new project coming? I feel like I have an album in me.

Like already recorded or just like? Not already recorded, but I've literally in the past, in the past, like, two weeks, I've recorded like 20 songs. Wow. In a matter of like four sessions. Okay. So like I'm kind of... So you live in the studio?

At this point. I'm in a crazy like mental space right now. Okay. Like, I feel good. I feel inspired, but also I'm a little heartbroken. I don't want to go into details, but you know. So I just been in the studio, you know what I'm saying? Doesn't the, doesn't the greatest art come from a broken heart?

You can take that line. I'm making some crazy. shit. You say what? Doesn't the greatest art come from a broken art? You were the first one that said that, right? Yeah, I said that. Yeah. Publishing. Yeah. You should put that on a shirt. Ombri, I'm not putting that on the shirt. You can, tell me to put my lyrics on a shirt. Y'all, don't do that.

And she looked me in my eye. I was like, you should put that on the shirt. I would put that in a song. I really would work. Let's break some bread, ombri. I got bills. You see we in a trailer. Yeah, like this is, look at this shit. It's where we live. You know, that sounds like a Drake line. Thanks Thank you

I can hear it for real Yeah Yeah You know You were actually the person That gave me Speaking of heartbreak The confidence to put out

My first single When I played it You were like yo If you like that shit Put that shit out Even though it was like a sentence It only took Four years for someone

To resonate with me With advice I was like yo I got all these other records People tell me I should put out And then I played the one That's now the single I want you more than you ever know You're like

Man if you like that shit Put that shit out Fuck them I was like I never thought of it that way. It's so simple. It's so simple when Andbray says it, right? Oh, shit. Okay. Thank you for that. We're not at the Billy Elish stream, but we're doing okay. You don't mean that. It's fine. I understand. That was the only time you heard it. It's cool. I listen to your project.

Yo, you didn't doubt. We don't got a verse. Armory, go on your phone right now. If that record ain't in there, that's fucked up. I know it's not. If that record ain't in there, I think I'd d'emed her the link too. No, but, no, she didn't. I was waiting to see she answered and be like, Rory was the one I didn't. Do not lie. Do not lie. Do not lie. I love to lie. She didn't click the link. You made it so simple for her. Hit you for the remix. Yeah.

You ain't have to laugh like that at me asking for the. No. You could have done like the ha-ha laugh. You ain't have to be like, yo, I want you on the remix. I really would do it. No, you wouldn't. You think I'm going to sit here and lie to you? Yes.

Yes. I think that's why we go along. Ambre, you look like you would look right in somebody's eyes and be like. I wouldn't, though. That's why she heartbroken. Take accountability. Take accountability. What happened?

What role did you play in the broken heart club? That's fucked up. Count of Billy Tom. But listen, let me tell you something. Oh, you're about to lie now. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I'm not going to tell you I like your music if I don't like your music.

That is where I draw the line with lying. That's fair. Well, listen, we thank you for stopping by kicking it with us. Appreciate it. You know that we support you. We behind you and we look forward to seeing you do major, major things. For show. Appreciate show.

Kicking it with, Ambre. All right, we back, man, with another guest, young nudie. How you feeling, bro? I'm feeling good, man. I smell it. I smell it. It's loud. It's loud.

It's loud. It's very loud. It's smell good. It's smell good. How you feeling? I'm feeling good. You're first made in America? That's your first one?

Yeah, my first one. You enjoying it? My first one, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fresh off EA monster and off the Callie joint. Oh, yeah, my. Did he do one of those fucking IG stories? What?

Caloo. What? What? Kelly. You're not on Calais that one? Nah, hell not. There's an old verse that says that, though. It's on the, I know I'm not tripping. It's not on that

track list. I'm not sure, no. I don't think so. I'm tripped. No. Bro. I don't know. I could be. This could be the clip. Pull that shit up. It wasn't on the first one when he changed it. It's all good. No, Kelly. I'm going to make one of the motherfuckers. Oh, he'll do the same thing he did to

did the jude. Yeah, we're going to put it in the universe. How are you feeling all your first made in America? Who are you excited to see performing this year? Shit myself. It's my first time. Great answer. So I'm performing

and then I'm going to watch this shit. Great answer. So we had, first time performing off the EA monster? Nah, nah, this ain't gonna be my first time performing this song.

I don't know for it. But I'm going to see how they react to it. Yeah. We had Jill, we sat down with J.I.D. yesterday. Yeah. Obviously, Georgia.

Yeah, man. You a fan of, you fan of Jiddy Jid? Yeah, my boy. Yeah. Fuck with Jiddy Jid. Oh, y'all. Oh, y'all. Oh, yeah, from the same side.

Okay, okay. Yeah, he went crazy yesterday. Yeah, he went crazy yesterday. I seen it. Yeah, he went crazy. Standing on the pole and shit and shit and all that's it. Crazy. Superstar shit.

Yeah, yeah. He's more, he's more, I ain't standing out there on no poles and shit. Yeah, nah, you don't got that. You too late. You cool laid back. You ain't jumping in that pit. I walk through the crowd. Yeah, yeah.

Hell nah, hell nah. I'm too big, fleshed in the way. Jada talked about just that whole era of East Atlanta coming up with Earth Gang and just that whole, I don't know, like 2012 to 2018 type shit. And he had brought you up as well. What was it like being that second generation? I almost feel like Gucci, A&R, that whole shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Put that together. What was that era like when y'all was coming up? Like what, you're watching all the other shit having? Yeah, just music-wise, the scene in Atlanta at that time. Oh, shh. I don't know. I can't really, I mean, you know, I probably went down a different pattern where G.

went now. You feel? So I probably seen a little more other type of shit in the way you seen. But you know, it's as a, you know, typical shit type of shit. But the music would, you know, made set the tone for the shit. For the shit and shit. How did you in 21 connect? Oh, they're family.

That's Atlanta shit. For music shit. So with the EA Monster Project, I noticed you don't have pretty much no features. About Baby Drell? Yeah. Yeah, free baby Drell, by the way, too. Baby Dill. So is that something that you prefer to do it as like your project you like to lock in alone with producers and just your team

and you don't really lean on the features? Yeah, I ain't. That feature shit be like a headache and shit. It would come to too much. Yeah, I ain't. Getting verses cleared and all that shit. Yeah, yeah. Getting versus clear.

Gotta wait for a nigga to respond and all that shit and shit. So I just be like, you know, fuck that shit. And then they were more like a mistake to it more for me. So I did whatever fuck I wanted to do. Right. You know what I'm saying? So speaking of, speaking of a way for people to respond, who sung some rappers, some artists that you've ever reached out via DM social media

and said, yo, listen, you know, I got this joint, but they never responded. Or maybe they've never seen it. I don't know. They've seen it, responded or not because I don't see, shit. I don't have to go through my shit to see who all along got down. I think I'm going to ask couple. I know for sure I'll probably have about three artists. Okay.

For real, for real. So, Nudy, who's some of the artists coming up in Atlanta right now? now that you got your eye on that you like I like this kid right here oh shit oh shit baby drill baby drill

yeah yeah yeah yeah by the way free shouting again tight shit yeah um since versus been kind of on us

I want to say it was on its way out but it held us down during quarantine what you thought of the GZ and Gucci versus seeing them on stage as an Atlanta native that shit was hard yeah shit were hard.

I feel like a lot of people in Atlanta like... Gucci came how we wanted him to come. I mean, I can't speak for air where else and shit. But, you know, the six, like, you know, we're like, you know, not encouraging the bullshit, but, you know, we enjoy that shit, you know what I'm saying? We get to see the old Gucci for a little minute type shit. Now, how did you feel about Amaretta's record when she was breaking down Atlanta and people that were, if you're from this part, you're not from Atlanta.

Like, she was saying you're not from Atlanta if you're from here, from here. I know everybody in Atlanta has something to say about that. Like, did y'all support it? Like, yo, she right. And did you care? Yeah. Nah, me? I ain't care.

I'm from East Atlanta office. I don't see. Okay. I mean, but, you know, I really can't speak on shit. Right. Like, I'd be in the streets. So. I can't really speak.

I'm not sure. I can't speak on that shit. I'll be chilling. The hospital, public school. You know what she wants to do? I don't know what she's talking about. Peace to her, though. But speaking of Gucci, we've talked about a lot on this podcast

that we think Gucci is probably the most underrated A&R and hip hop history. As far as Gucci putting these, how I feel outside looking in, this whole generation of new Atlanta artists on, like what does Gucci really mean to Atlanta? Outside of his actual music, I'm saying the behind-the-scenes shit and like what he really does for this new generation. Yeah, just Atlanta.

For me, Gucci shit, homie snitch. Mm-hmm. He ain't went out bad on. hound bro, none of that type of shit and shit. So, you know, you know, I fuck with it. You feel what I'm saying? Tight shit, tight shit. I mean, a real nigga, I can fuck with it.

Yeah, for sure. Did you listen to the new Gizi and DJ drama, gangster grill? Yeah, no, I ain't listened to it. I ain't allowed to you to this shit. Not, not, not saying I don't fuck with Jesus. No, I don't get wrong, no. We ain't even talk about it. He said, I don't fuck with you shit, Sean.

Yeah, yeah, but you just didn't tap in with it yet. But I don't tap into none of like, the new shit that all the old artists. I really just still listen to their old shit. Okay, you like me. I like, oh, if it's classic old shit, I keep running that back. Because you don't want to be disappointed. Like Mike in the Wizards jersey, it's like, oh, it's like, damn, Mike, you can't look like that.

We love you in the Bulls jersey. You know what I mean? Like, not the Wizards. Hey, man. What's a, with tour coming up and obviously you're getting booked for festivals, headlining shit last act. What's the city you can't wait to go to next year or whenever the tour? I ain't gonna count.

I'm keeping it a Brit. Jack, that shit, with Jay Super Cronk that time I went. I'm ready to go to D.C. D.C.? Yeah, yeah, well, that one of the cities, I wouldn't even expect for them to fuck with me like that. Like, that shit, most of us because we from New York,

anytime I went to D.C. is when I found out about Atlanta music. Like, they'd be on Atlanta shit way more than I think any other city on the East Coast. D.C. is like an Atlanta cousin of me for some reason. Anytime shit, even we talked about Gucci. I figured out about. about Gucci mixtapes because I went down to D.C. DC is on Atlanta shit all the

fucking way. I'm up in D.C. me. Yeah. Who's one of the artists that you're looking forward to like really getting in the studio and just learning from and like working with like one on one? Shit like that really don't come to my mind.

For real, for real. I ain't a lot to you. Shit. It's just if shit happens, shit happened. But I don't, I don't really be looking to be like, oh, I'm ready to work with this artist. It's going to be part of my dream. Like, shit.

And part of my dream with me being no goddamn rapper, but it happened. You feel what I'm saying? So part of my dream wasn't even me being a rapper. So all of this shit is I'm like, I didn't even think about this.

I'll go all with the flow, man. I feel you, man. I feel you. So what's next for Young Nudy, what you got coming up? I'm going to drop an album. We'll drop an album right before my tour. So, you know, we can listen to EA master.

They're going to bend on sink in their ears. And then, you know, the album will come out, be some new shit for him to eat up then I got a whole catalog just a whole bunch of music to perform you feel outside yeah you know tight shit we got to catch young nudie on tour

for sure gotta catch you I want to see Brian Kelly witch Brian DJ Callowich We don't get the verse that night Yeah yeah yeah I won't be called a life He gotta lay it down that night

That's giving me bad notes and shit Happy starting interviews out terribly Well listen nudity we appreciate You stop and by we ain't going to keep you too long man because I listen I smell it I see it I know you ready to spark up I'm ready to do the same I'm ready to do the same thing we appreciate you stopping by kicking with us man it's a pleasure me yeah thank you I know I know y'all across across the grounds and shit appreciate that BJ thank you I appreciate y'all man I appreciate y'all you're nudie appreciate you jzee

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