New Rory & MAL - Episode 101 | Rory's Drug Trip Goes Wrong

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

As we head into our hundreds episodes, Rory decided it was time to reflect. So he went on a sound healing journey to get to know himself better... and let's just say he didn't like what he saw. He goes into details about this experience with the team, and they contemplate whether its something they should do as well. Speaking of sound, Ari Lennox's new album came out and the guys give an honest review. Then, as you all have been waiting for, the Irishman delivers the sad, horrible news of Queen Lizzy's passing. Speaking of people who touch sh*t that doesn't belong to them, Mal gets into the news of a BLM (the LLC, not the movement) member skimming a little off the top of the (non)profits, and gives his opinion on that entire organization. Illinois passed their Safe-T law that will release a bunch of alleged criminals, and this leads into a discussion about how each Rory & Mal team member would purge if given the chance. They also discuss upcoming Triller fights, dinner with Bow Wow, how horrible Demaris' California accent impersonation is, their viral sketch, + more! ... & yes the random fourth voice you hear has a name. Its Julian. Yes, 'A Night In New York' guy.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are here to announce our live shows. We are on the road this weekend, Sunday, September 18, excuse me, in Chicago at Thalia Hall. Yes. And then we are in D.C. next weekend, September 23rd at the Howard Theater. I'm excited. Can you get vegan dishes in Chicago? A vegan deep dish pizza is what I'm on to hunt for, Rory. That sounds like a lot of crust.

I've got to find a vegan deep dish pizza. Vegan deep dish. DC I'm not worried about because there's a big vegan community in D.C. A lot of Democrats in D.C. Yeah. There's a lot of us down there. Do you think you get a vegan Italian sausage in Chicago? I think that's blasphemous to even look for vegan Italian sausage.

Is Mombos sauce vegan in D.C.? Maybe. Okay. Maybe. I got to see what's in Mamba social schools. You never even got to the bottom of that. It's Mamba. Yeah.

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Copy your tickets now. We'll see you soon. New Rory and Ma. Hey! Welcome to a new episode of New Rory and Mall. I am all. I see some time off. has changed your energy.

No, you know what? It actually hasn't changed my energy, Rory. Actually, like, what it did was it gave me time to, like, just, like, really recap and think about what we were doing out here. You know what I mean? It didn't. You didn't do any of that. No, I didn't.

I slept. Yeah, I really don't think you did any reflecting. No, no, no, no. All I did was get some sleep. I got caught up on some rest, some much needed rest. I feel that. Listen to some music, watch some movies, why some docs, caught him on some shows, you know, shit like that.

Maybe a little cuddling in between? No, no cuddling. Sometimes you got to be alone. Sometimes you need a long time. like alone time. I don't like cuddling. According to podcasting, you have been alone every day for seven years. That's not true. That's not true. Okay. At all. Well, on record when you record. No. Okay. I've had plenty of cuddle nights. Oh, that's nice. Just this last week has been some alone nights. I'm not cuddling. No, that's cool. Sometimes you got to be a little spoon. You got to be, you got to be alone. Sometimes you don't need to hear nobody. Sometimes you need to walk around the house and just do what you want. If you drop something, nobody's telling me, hey, wipe that up. Shut the fuck up. Leave it there. Let it drip dry.

But yeah, man, we had a week. Yeah, let that shit drip dry on the floor. We had some time off. We had a busy weekend. Made in America. We were in Philly. Yes. Had a great time kicking it with some people down there.

And now we're back to the couch. It was nice to see all you guys in festival mode. Were we in festival mode? Listen, that festival, people don't really talk about how much festiving. Can we say that? Festiving. Got our steps in. Bro.

It's a lot. of walking. It's a lot of fucking back and forth. It's just a lot that goes into like enjoying a festival. Like I'm mad that I miss Burner Boy set because I just refused to walk all the way to the other side of the park once I had a good spot for a bad bunny set. So it was

just like that. But Burner Boy sounded great. I just couldn't see him. But he sounded good. Yeah, I think I stayed in our trailer for most of the time. Yeah. I think I'm festivaled out. Even like when snow was on and she wasn't that far, I think I'm starting to value my knees more than I am music.

Just like, you know what? I'm going to stay here. Everybody sounded great. I couldn't see everybody. Everybody sounded great. But yeah, shout out to Doucet and Made in America. Shout out to Doucet. Thank you for having us.

Shout out to Made in America. Thank you for a great lineup. I sat down and caught Bad Bunny set with Edin. And let me just say that now I am fully on board the Bad Bunny train. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm totally a bad bunny. Like, I get it now. I had to see him live to understand it.

I understand. You had to get trained by Bad Bunny to like really. really like figure out if you were a fan or not initiated. I've been I've been initiated into the I guess I'm a bunny now. I don't know if that's what they call Bad Bunny fans.

Yeah. Did you do? What did you have to do to get into the club? How'd you earn your ears? Because like you don't remember like when you wanted to get some truck fit you had to suck Lil Wayne's dick. Whoa. Yeah, so.

What? So Bad Bunny, his set was amazing. It's a lyric. It wasn't the same full out set as it was. on his tour as it wasn't Yankee Stadium, but he did a pretty good job. Made in America, they did a pretty good job at giving him, you know, what they could as far as his production. But, you know, first of all, I've never seen that many people jumping up and down with their

phones lit up from one artist in my life. I've never seen it. Yeah. So I was good that I saw that because I just had to understand it. But now that I understand it and I saw his show, I get it now. Bad Bunny is, he's a character. He's like Baby Shark, right? He's a character.

He's created this world. And he's inviting you into his world to experience what goes on in bad bunny land. So you guys are the toddlers to his baby shark, more or less. It's kind of like, no, we're like, what I felt like after that was like I don't know Spanish very well, but it was the energy, the music, the vibe. And just seeing so many other people enjoying something, somehow it's like, oh, okay. Like, I should be enjoying this too. Like, 100,000 people can't be wrong. And I felt like it was 100,000 people out there.

I could be wrong. I don't know. Germany in the 40s may say otherwise. But I saw that you watched it with Edin. This guy's been watching a lot of Hitler documentary, hasn't you? I have. I did not know that there's a whole Nazi community in Argentina and that Hitler did not kill himself.

He actually went to Argentina. Never mind. Yeah, that was their refuge. We'll save that for Patreon because I'll get into hunting Hitler and how many episodes I've watched. So I saw you watch it with Edin. I thought that was a cool bonding experience. I thought he was there because they had the sign language person

like they do at most festivals. But I figured he was your translator. for like certain bars that bunny was trying to give you all. Well, it was, it was that and it was just, you know, if you see your friend enjoying something, it's almost kind of like lame if you're sitting there not enjoying it as well. Can you just call me his friend? Oh, yeah.

What a moment. Well, listen, you work for me, so I have to say you're my friend. That works, I guess. Because of HR or something? Yeah, HR said that we have to bond. And because you're our one Mexican employee that we had to, you know, we have to bond. It's a terrible business just that one Mexican.

Terrible business model. awful business model. Need more. But yeah, the Bad Bunny, his set was amazing. And now I do understand why he is probably arguably the biggest artist in the world right now. I get it. I understand. I like it.

He did his thing. He definitely did his thing. So shout out to everybody that came out to Made in America. It was a fun weekend. And now we are back to regularly scheduled programming. We are. I know you guys probably are interviewed out at the moment. We talked to a lot of people.

We did. We talked to a lot of people. Some people that we talked to already, we're going to talk to, again, in a different environment, have a longer conversation, shoot some cool shit with it because, you know, we just kicked it off camera with a few of those people. And we was like, no, we definitely got to do something. Please get your license renewed, even though mine isn't valid. Yeah. But I do want to do that Larry June tracks.

Oh, no, no, we're definitely doing that. That's happening. We have to race. Yeah, yeah. We're definitely doing that. Shout out to Larry, too. But, yes, we got back to New York and it was Fashion Week. I feel like the moment we got back to the city, which is always weird because I never know when Fashion Week really is.

I feel like it happens by monthly and then it doesn't happen for three years and then it happens every other week. I never know when the fuck fashion week is. Well, Fashion Week this year is from the 9th to the 14th, I believe. Okay.

I didn't participate in any Fashion Week stuff. Neither did I. Fashion Week, I feel like, is what happened to art basil. Like, it started out as art and now it's just an excuse for... Now it's just content.

For people to perform that don't even know anything about fashion. Everyone have events that have nothing to do with fashion. It's like go to see paintings at space. Yeah. It's just, it's just, it turned into something else.

It's now. No, they hung up Basquiat and live. It's fun. It was a bassewit and live. Yeah, it was art basil. They would hang a basquiat and live. Because most of the people that are at live, that's the only artist they know.

Anyways. So true. Fashion week, I feel, has gotten really watered down, but again, I'm kind of out the mix. And I'm not trying to be the fun police or anything. I see a lot of people have fun. You could be the fun police. I just, when there's specific weeks

that are with certain genres or art forms, because I do think fashion is art form. I just like to see it to the integrity of the people that actually give a fuck about what it is. That's why I like, yeah, I'll go to a fashion week thing if a friend is doing it, but I'm not going to actively try to jump on the fashion week trying to be like, yeah, we should do a new Roryamall

Fashion Week show. Right. And it's like, bro, I'm in my crib and I wear the same shit every episode at this point. I'm not the fashion icon. We're not fashion week guys, I guess. It's not for us. Can we ruffle some,

some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, ruffles some leathers? Yeah, ruffle some leathers. Yeah. On my IG story, I follow a lot of people from Atlanta. Mm-hmm. And I feel like we owe it back

because all of New York moved to Atlanta. So I wasn't mad when Atlanta infiltrated New York this weekend. I will say, though, your Atlanta fits look fucking insane on 8th Avenue. Like, Atlanta fits, Atlanta fits look eye in, like, fucking, It's a lot of colors.

Okay. It's a lot of patterns. Okay. It's a lot of pants below the shoes now. Like the big bell bottom pants? Yeah. Or extremely tight. There is no middle ground at all.

You can either not breathe or you look like a parachute. This sounds like regular LES fits to me. I don't know. There's a different scammer sauce that the Atlanta people put on. Okay. They just don't. They look good in Atlanta. They look fucking.

and they look awful in New York. It's something about the backdrop of the city that just does not look good with Atlanta fits. Like Atlanta looked nuts in New York this weekend. Yeah, I didn't pay too much attention to that. There was a lot of people hitting me, wanting me to come out to, you know, parties and stuff like. The only thing I think I did was meet up with you at Lutlow House for Ari's.

Oh, for the listening. For the listeners. And I was late to that. Wait, you were there too? Yeah, but I got there late. Like, I got there as soon as she probably finished performing. I found out Bogie was there the whole time. I had no idea.

What? Yes. I saw it. I was tagged in like a recap photo thing and I was looking on Instagram and I was like, wait, boogie was there? Yeah. Yeah.

So I got there late, Julian. But we went to the back room and Rory, myself, E, we all kicked it for a little bit. Went out to eat after. Grab some food. Ari said it was great to see me in real life.

Yeah. I was like, okay, yeah, this is real life, I guess. Like, it's not like Ari follows me.

So I'm like, where else do you see me at Ari? Like, you don't see me in fake life. So we, we blew smoke over malls. vegan hummus. It was great.

It's not hummus is vegan. Yeah, but yours was the vegan kind. It's okay. Right with bacon bits in his. Yeah. That would actually be a really good idea. And I don't think about it. So we went, yeah, we went to a hookah lounge after.

We all kicked it and hung out a little bit and went out separate ways. But that literally was the only time I was out this entire week. I wasn't, I didn't do much. I went to Whole Foods, went to Target. Like, I was acting like a real like a widowed husband or something. For their fashion week events. Yeah. Like, you got to go to Target for Fashion Week.

Week. Targeting and Whole Foods. Are you kidding me? Come on, man. Best time to go. I went on a sound journey. How was it? I heard about those things.

I don't know if I'm ready for that yet, but how was it? I don't know if I was ready for it. Well, you look like you were on a sound journey. Again, I did get invited to some Fashion Week stuff and I probably wasn't going to go anyways. But the whole week, I was very nervous about the sound journey. It took place from Saturday to Sunday. It was a very long process. Essentially, there's different.

kinds of sound journeys. Some just require meditation and sounds being played. This was a bit more intense. This one is a mixture of MDMA and mushrooms. Okay. Given to you in a certain scheduled dose to fit with the sound, smells, temperature of the entire sound journey. If there's an option, one with drugs and one without drugs, I feel like you just, what was the, well, well, also the amount of dosage that they gave, and I think I'm allowed to tell all this. I don't think nothing was illegal. So it starts with an MDMA pill that you first take. Let that sit in for a little bit. Wait, before you get into that, what was the point of you taking this sound journey? Like, what was the motivation behind it? I just trying to learn more about myself. Through sound.

Well, drugs included into it. Yeah. I had a friend that has done three of them. This was her fourth. I went with her. Okay. And she, I think very highly of her period. Mm-hmm. So she said she found out a lot about herself and has discovered a lot about her emotions and herself and all, you know, all the, all the really cool, smart hippie shit that I just want to learn more about. Is she, is she like an artist or is she just somebody that has? Well, she dates the person that painted this.

Okay. You've met her before. Okay. Yeah, you guys know. I can see her being a good. She's, and, you know, and she's just an amazing soul. I just, I strive to be as peaceful as her. So I take advice from her, she's, she's a good person.

So she said sound journey. You have to take the sound journey. This is how you find peace and happiness. Well, no, she didn't say I had to, but she was saying all the things that she learned from me. Yes. I was like, I would be interested in that. And she told me this about a year ago. Okay.

So one finally came up like a month ago. She put me in touch with the person and it was September 10th. Mm-hmm. So I get there and immediately feel out of place. Okay. So what's the, what's the environment? Like, what is the setup? What is it? It's, you know, one of those, like, studios in Greenpoint that, like, the office, like where we did the photo shoot, literally the same building. Okay. And I get there, and it's a lot of people that, like, just look happy.

That's a good start. You're the rookie. Well, I'm automatically feel weird because I've talked to this podcast. I don't, not that I don't like, I just get uncomfortable around overly nice people because I feel like there's an angle and I feel like they're full of shit, which is a terrible trait that I have. So much trauma. You're happy. So everyone there. And again, I read the directions that said get there between 2 and 2.30.

I'm thinking the sound journey is going to start at 2.30. So I get there at 2. The doors close at 5. So like I could have got there at 5. Oh, okay. So now I'm like awkwardly there. You're pissed off. And like, no, I'm not pissed off at all.

I'm just uncomfortable that I now have to mingle with people that are one mentally better than me, two nicer than me, three just in a better space in their life than me. And that's just the uncomfortable shit that I have. You didn't meet that one dirtbag and you were like, oh, you too? Julian, what's funny is, I was trying to find, like, the one person

because dirtbags, we have an, or the same way I say with depressive people in the bus driver's shit, I can find someone that's just not in a good place in their life. So I was like, where's that person? And there wasn't. You sure it wasn't you? No, I was the one that fucked up the energy in the roof. So at one point, I did my setup, like I brought my yoga mat and my blankets, because they say to bring

like a damn near a bed. Yeah, something that you have to be comfortable. I pretend to take a nap. Okay. Just so I don't have to talk to. You pretended? I would have really took a nap. Yeah. I wouldn't have. Oh, no, no, no, no. I tried to, but my mind was just racing at that point. So I just had my, my eye covered thing. And you already took the, okay. On top of this, this is how much of a rookie I am with the shit. Everyone has, like, their amazing bed and blankets and crystals and like yoga books and like journals and like really nice face coverings. I have my sleep thing from United. I like it.

Something sentimental. I have my eye mask from United. Yeah. I have the workout mat that I bought during COVID so I could work out at home. And one of Bazley's blankets. Oh, yeah, that's such an emotional. Look at you bringing everything that was so sentimental to you. At least it smelled like her, which made me...

Made you relax. Yeah, yeah. So the first hour, like once the door is closed, they do like an hour of talking. Well, first they do like a one-on-one consulting thing to give you your drugs to like let you know like, all right, do you want to just like have fun and laugh or do you like want to meet God? And I was like, well, I want to meet God. She's like, all right, well, you take the entire bag. I was like, bet. So we do the talking thing clearly to people that are in amazing space.

in their lives. Like, yeah, we can trip without shrooms at this point. We've opened our neurological pathways and we can do that. Amazing people saying nothing but nice things. Everyone around is just so happy and I'm just sitting there like, I'm ruining the energy in this room. So this before you took the drugs, you already felt like you were the... I started to feel worse as... He felt like the red-headed step kit. I feel like if you took the drugs and then you felt that way, then it could be like, ah, like, I'm sucking the fun out. And like, let's let's let's, let's, let's, let's, let's,

not all act like stereotypes of people don't exist in what they look like. It was very much the Brooklyn meditation happy crowd. Yeah. Do I look like that?

No. Dirty air forces everywhere. Everyone was dressed. I was in like Nike Tech sweatpants. I have tattoos that aren't like Asian symbols. Like I just don't look like I belong there and that started fucking with my head. And I'm like everyone's looking at me like who

told this kid to come here. Wait, so your friend, she didn't go with you? She was sitting next to me. Oh, so she wasn't like the buffer, like to let you know, like, hey, listen. No, she was doing amazing, introducing me to everyone, but, we talked about this. You know me in social situation. But we do that in environments

that I'm comfortable with. Right. This was something totally different. This was even more uncomfortable. How many people were there? Um, 30 maybe? It was a big room, though. It sounded like we were on top of each other. It sounds like y'all ended up with this. It sounds like it ended up something. This was like a sound journey, right? Yes. Okay.

So... Not a sound orgy, was it? No, it was not a sound orgy. Okay, all right, cool. Though now I think about it with that soundtrack, it might be interesting. So nobody fucked at all? De Maris. Well, I went, listen, I went to another dimension. So maybe when I was in that dimension, people around me was fucking... Somebody touched me. Somebody touched me. No, no, that's why I had to go to the sound journey wall because someone touched me as a kid. Rory's blanket became a... His, Basley's blanket became a comrade.

Oh, my God. Julian. All right. Okay, guys. So listen, so you're on the sound journey. I'm going to just take this. So you take, so you take, so you take the MDMA. Okay. Then I take the first six of the shrooms.

Okay. And they begin playing the music. And it's just like, it's no, it's not like, it's not lyrics. It's just sounds. It starts out just sounds. At some point there's actual songs. At some point there's music with people talking over, like with certain affirmations and certain types of things. Things to help you put you in that state.

Okay. So I put on my eye mask. I immediately cannot focus. Like my brain is going fucking everywhere. Okay. Which is never a good thing when you take shrooms. The music is extremely peaceful. They start out with more of like a vocal thing.

And I don't want to say like you had to sing lyrics or anything, but a lot of vibrations, a lot of things to get your body moving. Halfway through the humming thing, I start doing them. That immediately turns into a. saw noise and I can feel my chest vibrating as if a saw it didn't hurt but as if a saw was sawing my body in half. Okay. Jesus crazy. And then I stopped humming, but the hum just kept going of my own tone in my head.

And I was like, well, I think I'm tripping now. Yeah, the tripping started. So were you scared? Um, I was scared when my mind was running and I wasn't tripping because that was just heightening my nervousness and worryiness, but I really was tripping. It just didn't feel like I was, and my heightened nerves were going nuts. And then the vibrations definitely helped. But when that saw started, I was like, okay, here we go. So much of taking shrooms is the visual aspect of it, though. Did they tell you to cover your face? No, you have to wear, it's a sound journey. It's all

based on the sounds. So yes, you wear an eye mask the entire time. Got you. So it was very peaceful during the, I guess, vocal portion of the entire thing. And the breathing, they gave us like breathing techniques and stuff just to get a lot of oxygen in your body. Then the music started to get really fucking intense. Okay. This sounds like a night at the club. Like intense, like what?

Like, like, uh, like, uh, no, no, no. Just, just very, it wasn't a, it's a lot of, um, like, no, God, no, it's like gongs and like certain pots, you know, they do the shit around. Like, it's very peaceful. Yeah. Oh, they're actually using the sound. certain guitars certain flutes and shit

exotic so playing in different frequencies to activate certain things so once once the intense music like really begins I start grabbing the side of my fucking workout mat for dear fucking life

I went into the this is when the drugs I'm kicking I went into the darkest fucking pits of my stomach of my body I looked at myself in such disgust. I saw so many nasty things about me and who I am and was like, ugh.

The whole time I was just like, ugh. Did you cry? Oh, mad times. Like, you're just a bad person. Like, then the music started to come up more. And I got to like the peaceful aspect of it. And I was like, I don't know what to do with this. With the peaceful aspect.

I could operate so well, even though, I was looking at things that were, I felt were disgusting about me and who I was, I was very comfortable. Okay. Like, I was moving around my body very easy with the very intense music behind me and the intense. It's more like colors and shit. You can just identify a nasty thing in front of you. I was totally fine navigating through that, even though I was like, ugh, that's like, you're bad. Right.

When it got to the peaceful shit, it was even worse. Because I was like, oh, wow, I can identify all these beautiful sounds and these great things. I don't know what to do with them. I knew what to do when it was fucking intense and angry. Like, and when it was, I was screaming to, other people were screaming. Like, it's an intense thing. So I was screaming and then it got to the point where it was peaceful. And I was like, I don't know what to do with this.

Like in the trip, I was like, all right, this is peaceful. This is beautiful. I like this. But what, I don't know. You wanted the intensity. you wanted to the dog shit. I got uncomfortable when I had to find what the peace was. And I was like, I don't know what to do with that. When you cried, was it during the angry

moments or the peaceful part? Was it a happy cry? Peaceful. I was, I don't know if it was that. But again, you're conscious and unconscious so much because you come in and out of it. Like purposely with the noises, they bring you into it. Yeah, it's like a soundtrack. Pull you back up out of the shit. And then certain things I won't get into because they're a little too personal. I can tell all off mic, but it would go back into intense shit and I'd start to feel more comfortable. I was like, oh, thank God. They're going back into the angry.

Like, anytime I got angry, I got happier. So what does that say? What does that say about you? That I only know how to navigate in fucking chaos and I feel comfortable in being shitty to some degree. And I don't know how I, the worst part is I know I'd identify something that's good, but I don't know what to do with it. Okay.

That's what I took out of that entire thing. So they don't break it down for you? Like, they don't tell you. Everyone has a completely different trip. Okay. Some people during the intense noises may be having like line dances and like having a blast where some people will... Those are the real crazy.

Like, you're enjoying this part of it. Well, no, listen, I interpreted, no, I interpreted that music as angry. Someone else may interpret that not. I'm saying that's how I did. It's not intended where like, let's do the angry music point. It's so subjective to what's inside you, your emotions, your memories and things like that. I get it. So it gets back into the intense part.

and I was like, oh, thank God. Like, I was so worried when it was peaceful. And then it got angry again, well, at least in my perspective. I was like, oh, thank God. I feel comfortable again. And they did this burning smell that was like the only thing that would really heighten my trip. Like, they would do like lavender smells, spray water and all that shit. It was the burning one that like I loved.

And I've been smelling that burning smoke for the past two days. Like, I can't get rid of it. It was like sage? I don't know what it was. It just smelled like something was burning. And I was like, ooh, thank God. And I don't know why I was so happy. about something burning. I know. It was dark. I'm a dark person. So it gets intense, back to feeling

comfortable yet still disgusted. And this is going to sound like really hippie. It got really light and I really felt like I was being born. Like it looked like it was open and I was going through a vagina to be born. And when I say I popped straight up and I could see like damn near, maybe it's because I remembered what the ceiling looked like before I went. I saw the ceiling and I like went up and I had a two second feeling of the most happy I've ever felt in my entire life. I've never felt anything so happy in my life. I was like, what the fuck was that? Holy shit.

Is that what being happy feels like? Do people feel that? And then it immediately went away. And then for like the remainder of the time, I kept trying to figure out and like find that happiness again. It was the strangest fucking feeling. I've ever had. So you only felt that moment of happiness for that show.

Maybe for like two seconds. And never felt it again. No. And it was, I've never felt, of course I felt joy before. I don't want to make this too depression dark. I've never felt that level of happiness in my entire life. So do they recommend that you do that more often? Do they recommend, you know what I mean, like once a year maybe or?

Yeah, it's definitely something like at minimum maybe six to eight months. You have to wait to do the next one. Okay. it's it's they're professional so they may do it more but someone like me i should wait a little bit of time so do you recommend that people do that i don't know i don't know i i will say once once i started to come down the best revelation i took from it because the rest of it i'm still trying to figure out exactly what what it means what some of those meant the best part was once i started to come down and they started to like put the lights up and i could see through my mask i put it up a little bit

and they were still doing music, and I looked over, and I saw someone going through what appeared to be what I was going through. Like, they were in the feudal position. Like, they looked terrified. And over him was one of the musicians just playing, like, not a tambourine, but like bells, like jingle bells over him. And it kind of sort of, so the people that are playing instruments, they actually walk around. They're walking around the entire thing. So sometimes the sounds to be further. So you can hear it.

It's like a way. You can hear, like, different instruments clearer. At one point, I had sat up when I stilled my blindfold on when some of the happier music was. And my entire, like, chin and face by itself went up and, like, locked. And when I say it felt like things were trying to, like, get out of me. And my teeth started, like, that type of shit. My jaw locked. Like, it felt like there was a thousand things trying to get out of me.

But I was preventing them. And, like, I'm telling you, my shoulders locked, my neck locked. I was like, and one of a musician. came behind me. I have no idea what he was playing or what he was doing and was like playing notes on my back and it like immediately like relieved all the lock that was on my entire body. But that did feel like I was, there's thousands of things I just want to scream and say and can't say or don't say. That's how I interpreted that one. Right. But again, yeah. So when I'm starting to come down, I look over it and this guy looks like he's going through the same manic crazy shit I was

and there's a guy just playing like bells over him. And it kind of put things in perspective. I was still high. I said there's so many things in life where we feel like it's so fucking chaotic and scary and insane and you're sitting in the fetal position like the world is fucking over and at the end of the day all there was was just some guy playing bells over.

That's it. Like something that simple. It was just some guy doing this. It just looked. It was such a fucking revelation of like, this guy's freaking out. And all it is is just some guy playing bells over. it just made me feel like

sometimes shit is just not really what we perceive it because that guy right now is freaking out in his brain in the fetal position yet all I'm seeing is just some guy playing some bells over it was weird so do you so and after taking this sound journey how do you the days after like

oh I'll tell you immediately once we all came now we had another talk okay and I felt even shittier after the talk because for the most part you didn't have to share but people shared okay everyone had like the greatest time of their lives

okay meanwhile I'm sitting there just like shaking like literally shaking of like what just happened like I'm yeah I hate myself so do they say that like after you went on the sound journey

um does everyone in the room talk about the experience or is it just personal shit that they keep you don't have to but people were sharing like this amazing things of people

because a lot of times people see dead relatives or talk to dead relatives or even talk to spirits of people that are alive and conversations like things you've been holding on to what's also made me feel shittier at the end because I was like, damn, everyone like met people and talked to people and I didn't meet or see anyone in my,

and of course everyone's journey is different, but I felt lonely the entire trip and everyone else was like, yeah, like, I saw my mom and like we finally finished, our conversation that I've been holding on for my whole life and we found some reasons to still love each other. I'm like, damn, I was grabbing on for a dear life about how

disgusting of a human being I am. I was looking in the mirror the entire time. Like, I was alone the whole time. No relatives wanted to link me. Yeah. There was no links in my church. The spirits were running from Rory. Yeah, so, but and everyone had, and again, because I was still coming down, I just felt really shitty.

How long does the high last? Oh, we started at six. I assumed that was probably around 8 o'clock, I got up and went to the bathroom and it was 1 a.m. on my phone, which freaks. I was like, what the fuck? It's one, no way this shit is 1 o'clock in the morning right now. Oh, so you only felt like it was a two-hour thing?

If that. Yeah, if that. Wow. Were there any people like coupled up? There was one, one couple that was there for their like 25th anniversary or whatever. Yeah, which I thought was kind of ill. There was also like a 65, 7-year-old woman that was there. She had done sound journeys just without drugs.

Like she's really into meditation. So that was kind of cool. She ended up throwing up, though. But it was here. I just need to get out of there immediately. Like everyone else was like talking and like hugging. And like I was like, I feel disgusting. I need to get out of here and away from all this great energy because I don't want to ruin this room.

So when you, after you left, what's the first thing that you did? Who's the first person you spoke to? like um i didn't really do much talking it took a while to even be able to talk i'm not even kidding that's why i don't understand how people shared so quickly and i'm not saying my feelings it it was tough to even like get words out yeah um so not yeah did you go home yeah i came i came around i'm about to say we said we you can't go on the sound journey you can't like go to the You can't go to the strip club after that. I will say, though, I have not had urges for vices at all since.

Oh, okay. I've had zero urges. Yeah. Like, not an urge at all. And it was weird. Like, when I was leaving, I was like, oh, probably a drink will straighten me out. And on the car ride home, I was like, I don't, why would I want to drink? And I haven't, even yesterday, like, on a chill day, I cleaned up a little bit.

I was like, yeah. Didn't even want it. No. That's interesting. Well, I'm glad you. you took that journey. I'm looking for it because I know you're going to do another one. I don't think you can do one of anything.

But now at least I know how to like prepare because so many people came with intentions and like they said, oh, I know what it is. I've been working to have this conversation for a month with myself. I also didn't even know like even me getting there too early was like fuck, I'm here too early. I'm in my head too much. Like I thought I was just going to come here, take the shrooms and jam. But at least I'll know now what I'm.

getting into and I think I'll be able to navigate it a bit differently, which I had the same thing with shrooms visually. The first time I took it, it was a terrible, insane experience. Now I know what I'm getting into when I take shrooms. I know how to control. The sound journey is drastically because you don't have those visual representations and you're only based off your ear sense, your brain kicks in to do the visuals. You forced to think more. I've joked about when I was on, well, it wasn't a joke, but when I was on shrooms, I went into that fucking painting. That was all visual, based and it was based off this visual so my brain could take that and do that. The sound takes vibrations, all that triggers your emotion. When you have no visual reference, your brain is

going to make that visual reference. And it just kind of speaks to music and how it can affect and trigger certain moods and memories and anger and happy. It's just, it's interesting. Well, say in a year's time, if you do this again, when you do this again, what would you go in with the intention on dressing within yourself? Oh, so are you bringing in? year I wouldn't know. Can you bring us next time? If you guys want to do it. Yeah.

You don't want to see all of us during your trip? I don't want to see any of y'all on a sound journey trip. Well, it's a sound journey. You don't really see anyone. You don't really. I don't want to see y'all after. I don't want to wake up and Eddn's waving at me. Like, I'm good.

Yeah. The only thing. I don't want to see Eddn if I'm not on a sound journey trip. The only thing that is kind of crazy, like in the beginning of it before you like trip for real, when you're just regular tripping, you can hear other, the people around. you. Yeah. And they encourage you to like if you have a noise or something you want to make, make it.

So in the beginning you can hear a lot of other people's sounds. With some of the noises you heard. Fam. One girl was getting her back blown out. I'm not even a joke. She was moaning. I was like. In her trip.

God damn. Not for real. Like no one was fucking the way you guys were saying. In her trip. I don't know. She probably revisited a time she was on a vacation and met a nice guy at the bar and never saw him again, had a night of great sex. Can you have...

She's trying to revisit that moment. I mean, but I've heard people like eat certain foods that are so good and make a stereotypical sexual noise. Maybe, I don't know. I don't... I have never eaten any food. Maybe she was digging in her ear.

I would just be making... Yeah, sometimes I get a cute... Oh, God. I got it. God, it's right there, yeah. So I don't know if it was related to sex, but she was moaning. I would just do like...

Nigo's adlives. Hmm? I would just do like Nigo's adlives the entire time. I'd be like, ooh. And a lot of people had animal spirit books and some people were making animal noises. See, I'm too childish because I would be dying laughing if somebody started. Demar's, you would be crying.

That's a part of Shrews. Oh, no, I don't. If I was into the sound dirty, I wouldn't even take it with drugs. Like, I would definitely be crying just off the sounds alone. With no drugs? No drugs. No. What's wrong with you?

Are you okay? No. They're crying off of them. They hit that one note. DeMere just loses it. Yeah, like off the no drugs, somebody just played a boost. Like, yo, what is wrong with this lady? They threw some chimes near her ear?

Like, it's just chimes, ladies. Oh, no. You know, the Maris got that deep heart from the soul cry. Oh, oh, oh. Holy shit. With no drugs, no, no. She's sitting there with a full pack. Pack in the pocket.

We'll wake up. They'll be to drag Damaris asleep in the bag. back outside the room like, yo, we had to put her in the hole. She'd be zipped up by her sleeping background. Listen. That's fucking hilarious. Well, listen, man, I'm glad you had your sound drink. No, it's funny to say that because what's fucked up is not everyone took the whole pack.

Like, of course, you're entitled to like some people just want to go take one of the little shrooms, do like a microdose and just enjoy the music. The same way I'll microdose and go to a live concert. Yeah. Some people did that. So like one of the people shared and she was like, oh, I still have. nine of mine left and like it was such a cool experience with the music and I'm over here like man fuck you so you was sitting there mad conscious probably hearing me cry fuck you yeah yeah don't be conscious to hear me cry I don't want you mad sober when I'm over here

in the depths of my stomach hating myself she that was like he over there wilder yeah like that gentleman is a demon that sounded like a very interesting uh what day was this you went Saturday and Sunday that's a great way to spend a Saturday on the sound journey. It definitely, I think I'm still recovering, to be honest. It's a very,

very intense. It's a physical, I was physically exhausted, mentally exhausted. Do you feel like a better person? Do you feel, are you happy you did it and do you feel like a better person?

Not a better person, but like, do you feel better? I'm very much happy I did it. I don't know if I feel better. I think there's things that I saw that I need to figure out and like interpret

which can take some time. And they were even saying like, you'll, this type of shroom MDMA combination like stays with you for almost a month. So like you'll have flashbacks to certain stuff and start to see what really resonated with your body on the trip.

So like I'm not trying to quick to try to figure everything out. Like the surface level of certain things of like I was so happy or not happy. I was so comfortable with the chaotic, disgusting parts about me and didn't know what to do once they started playing happy music. I think surface level I can figure that shit out. But I'm sure there's some,

darker things that I'll start to figure out. So I don't feel like a better person. I just feel like I've seen myself in a different perspective is really what it is. Well, I mean, that's a very interesting sound journey went on and I'm glad you did that. And, you know, hopefully a lot of emotions were faced and, you know, I'm hoping you found clarity. But I went on a sound journey. It wasn't as intense as yours. I just smoked some weed and listen to Benny.

I just smoked weed and listen to Ari's album. Like, there you go. That was the extent of my sound journey over the weekend. And yeah, we all went to Ludlow House for the album listening. Julian's sound journey would be dark, I feel like. Oh, my God. I'm a dark person, but I think Julian might be darker than me. I think Ed in sound journey would be talking about my skin tone or...

Yeah. Yeah. He definitely called you a nigger. Oh. Your sound journey on the hip-hop. What if you... No, Roy's not wrong, though. I feel like mine would be...

There's some shit that I want to... I think you'd be laughing, like, the way they laugh, like, crazy people doing horror movies. schizophrenic people and they're trying to make them seem scary. Can you give an example? Like in Shutter Island. Like when I... I think you would laugh like that the entire time.

Really? I think that about Julian? In my top three movies. No, I don't think that. I think he laughs like a serial killer now though. Yeah, no, he definitely does laugh. Like, they don't even know where the body is. They'll never find out. They'll never find out.

Look at them looking in Brooklyn. It's in Long Island. Julian definitely has that type of laugh. That's insane. Yeah, you do have that last. You absolutely have a shit. You know who I think it's probably really dark and like we wouldn't, I think that Ed and I, everybody knows I'm dark. I think Eddn is probably very dark.

Nah. The jolliest people in the world are the darkest people. I'm the jolliest person in the world, you know. You're a fake jolly moments. I think she called you fat. No. Oh, that's fine. I don't think, I don't think Edon has.

Why is Jolly? I'd have a food journey. I said he was a dark person. You said I said he was the other. Ed didn't do it in different tacos. A food journey? We definitely should do a food journey. Different sauces.

Mild, medium, green, Ferday, Mola. The first time I did not start that joke, see? I'm going to eat myself to sleep now. Yeah, see? You know what I hate when girls say, I'm such a foodie and they just like good food? Taco bow. Oh, you like, you like dinner?

You're like, who doesn't like good food? Right? Like, who's not somebody that didn't say that? They just don't really be food. It just means they eat every day. Foodie lifestyle. Foodie is a real lifestyle. It means take me to a nice restaurant.

And I don't want to pay. Yeah, they don't be like, chicks be like, I'm a fooling. I'm like, are you a billy? Like, do you pick up the bill as well? So every girl's a billy. No, she dates a bill. She just love being foodies. Who's the bill, though?

Like, pick up the bill while you're at it. You ate about 17 steaks or 13 photos. Yeah. I've seen chicks put foodie in their IG bios and they post the chicken satay from Tau. I'm like, you're not a foodie. First of all, them chicken satea. I've never been good. No, they're terrible.

That food is terrible. They used to be good from Philippe. From Philippe, they used to be good. All that shit is frozen. I don't like frozen. I don't like shit that's frozen. They just put in the deep fry? Yeah, just fry it.

It's a microwave, but it's a titanium in front of it. And throw some peanut sauce on it and say, hey, chicken satay. Like, that was frozen. It was frozen with the stick in it. They thaw the stick. They defrosted the stick. Like, come on, why, get out of here with this shit. That shit was never good to me.

Well, anyways, yeah, that was my weekend. No fashion events. I'm happy you're okay, Rory. I'm happy you're okay. I'm happy you're okay. Well, you're not okay, obviously. But I'm happy you're acknowledging that you're not okay. He said he felt peaceful for 27 seconds.

He's okay. He said two seconds. That's all right. So good. He's peaceful. He faced some sounds and, you know, he cried. He caught a neck spasm. I just want to know if the people who aren't as sad and dark and depresses me, if they really

feel that feeling I felt for like two. Like if that's how y'all walk around every day, I, holy shit. You guys must be living life. But that's the thing that is really people out here that really have these. emotions inside of them walking around every day and you see how you face that and you're like damn how to fuck it but that's the reality for some people

The corny thing of it was and like I said it felt like I was being born like it looked like I was going from dark to light when it was happening. It might have been my body saying I know you can't do anything with these nice sounds right now and you love all this dark shit I just showed you if you stop doing that this is how

we as a body could feel this right now if you would just stop with your bullshit like I'll give you a little taste of how good this could be. Like, I just put the tip in. Happiness is like, oh, just the tip but it felt good. So now I want to fuck. Right. That's usually what happens when you just put the tip in anyway. Happiness is a prove-a-bitch, though. So we went out for always listening. The album, Age, Sex, Location, I believe. Phenomenal. Yes. I listen to it. We're all old enough to know what. Oh, yeah. You was in the chat rooms. Did you guys tell your real age

sex and location? No. I always told my real age. I was, I, from, yeah, I told my real age. Yeah, well, you were 35 when we were doing that. I was 11. So I, this time I didn't say it. I hope you were giving you real age. I had 11 years old. It was like, yeah, 23.

Maul was like, I'm 17. The funny shit. Then Chris Hanson comes out. Hello, Maul. What are you doing with that six pack? No. The funny shit is I never lied about my age because I felt like I always already looked younger than my real age.

Oh, yeah. Like, usually guys look old and then they try to lie about the age. Like, I, I don't think I look old. Like, people don't believe that I'm 40. So it's kind of like, I'm 40. Yeah, like, when I was 19, I had to really prove that I was 19. They thought I was 15.

Yeah. I'm like, no, I'm 19. Look. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I went through that age. So, yeah, age, sex location. Ari Lennox, great album.

Really, really good. I love this album. She sounds great. I love to join with her unlucky day. I could tell that Ari was definitely, that was not written. That was like really like improv off the cuff. Like, she was really cursing lucky out. I love to drink with her in summer

This is a really good album I think this album is the album that people are going to find with Ari that and they really start like fucking whatever because this album, the music, the production the songs, the features, everything was really, really done well and I like it. I enjoyed it all weekend. I cleaned up, listened to it.

I went outside. I worked out to it just to listen to the album because I wasn't the biggest Ari fan. I listened to a lot of her stuff but I wasn't like really all the way in. and I knew that this project, they really took their time on it and worked it. So I said, let me really go in and listen to this project. She did a great job.

I mean, she's been working on this for a really long time. Really? You were never like a huge? Because I think Shade Butta Baby is a classic album. I'm fine saying that. Yeah, but I wasn't like, I like the album, but I wasn't like a huge, like, oh my God, Ari, I love you. Like, I wasn't that.

I love her as a person. I think she's a sweet person. I think her energy is really, really beautiful. Like she's just a calm. Every time I see her, it's good energies. When we met at the show in LA, she told me, like, I had you figure it out all wrong. I thought you were ass. So I was like, what?

Well, that was based off podcast stuff. I know. That was being next to something. Right. But listening to her music, listening to this album, like, this is the one that I'm like, okay, like, I'm in on Ari. Like, I'm all the way in on the Ari Linux train. Well, I'm glad she took her time, not only because I think her voice lends time. Like, her voice is too good to do 10 projects in three years.

She should take her time with that type of vocal tone and the type of content and everything that she does. So I'm glad she did, I will say, and she posted a lot of stuff on Instagram. It's not like I'm saying things that were no one knew. But she linked with every big producer in the journey of creating this album. Farrell, Timberlin, Missy, you name it.

She did it. She had about 90 tracks, right? Yes. And pretty much every record that she met with the top A-list producer, she did not use and did almost everything in-house with Elite in the Dreamville camp. And, you know, there's some messy stuff on there. There is some stuff.

But I just appreciated that she got to work with all her favorite producers since a kid and was like, nah, just because you produce this doesn't make it me. Right. Whereas most artists, I think, fuck up on that second album when they knock it. They knock it out of the park on that first one. So everyone wants to work with them. And it's like, what, though, what kid is not going to be like, wait, Farrell wants me to fly to Miami.

Right. You get caught up in their names. But still will be like, hey, Farrell, this ain't for me. So I just respect her that she followed what she thought was better for her sound rather than doing, I can get any feature. I can get any producer right now and produced by Simmelin, Ari Lennox. Let's put it out. So I'm glad she didn't do that.

And I respect her for that. And you know why I really like it? 12 tracks. Oh, yeah. Right to it. She didn't give us 20 tracks, 19. 12 tracks right to it. Everything would flowed right.

And again, I think she did a great job with, like you said, she didn't, I'm pretty sure everybody was willing to work with her and give her a verse and thing like that. And worked with. Yeah, but she got the right feet. Not too many features, you know, summer and Chloe and then Lucky Day. That's it. Three features on the album. Can I tell you a Stan story with that?

So remember the famous text message I got in. Lugardia Airport. Yes. So when I got that text message, I was going through TSA to go to Atlanta. And I was working with DROM. Shit, I want you more than you know. Same session. We finished texting with Ari.

She was in Atlanta at the time. And she's like, hey, just link me at the studio. Uber over there. Ian calls me. We don't do the bleeps. We actually speak directly. Ian calls me. Ian and I are going back and forth about everything.

I don't want to say arguing, but just back and forth and disagreements. I'm kind of pissed off walking into the studio. I come in, it's Ari and all of Dungeon family. Okay. When I, like, stop. I don't ever stop in my tracks. I see Ari, I look up, I'm like, that's all of Dungeon. Just Ari and all of Dungeon family.

And here comes this fucking ginger idiot. Yeah. All pissed off. You're probably red in the face already. The same way I thought I fucked up the sound journey energy. I should turn around. I should not be in this room like Rico is on the keys right now

Let me get the fuck out of it Yeah But that was one of the coolest moments in my life And I don't even think I've even told Ari How amazing that was To just sit in On a dungeon family session

Like, because I'm just a nerd With that type of shit But congrats to her Age Sex location This tour is gonna be great The album's great It's definitely not one

That you listen to one's Really really good album man I'm really loving this album I can't lie Oh we at the tour We outside Oh no you were outside enough On the week that we had off

As soon as I opened my app, you was throwing ass in the silk dress, I think. I was like, where is this? No shame. You do know that all of those videos were taken, like, almost a month ago. No shame. I was deactivated for a month, so I just was posted an old shit. I kind of felt like it looked a little, like, date. I said, I think, I think these are old.

Don't get it to. She was still shaking ass. She was still shaking asses. Yeah, but it was old ass. It was out of fresh ass. Do women do that with intention? The old ass is good ass. Like archive and like horrid footage.

Do you guys do that intentionally? Well, I didn't have an Instagram, so I couldn't post it. Make it look like they're still in Miami? That and yeah, they just always, which I don't mind. I think you should post things later just because where you're, you should never post when you're actually at a location. That's just my personal opinion. But I feel like women really purposely hoard content where it's like, all right, I'm at this bar. I'm going to post this in a year.

Yeah, Demand's had it all right. She knew what she was doing. Well, I like when people take a time off of like Instagram and Twitter and shit like that and then pop back up on your timeline. It's kind of like, hey, I haven't seen you. Where have you been? Yeah, some of the followers were making fun of me. oh, y'all, y'all been enjoy it. I know she's gone again in a couple days.

Yeah. But you deactivate. I deactivate and I'll be gone. Yeah. But you've been doing that forever, like Twitter to. Yeah. Is that like you going on your sound journey? You delete your Instagram?

No, it's just sometimes it's anxiety. I don't like feeling like I'm being watched. It's weird. It's weird. It's not weird. I understand what you mean. It's like I just feel like I need to escape. Yeah.

Yeah. You're hanging out with somebody new. No, not even. No. You don't want him to look at your own. No, that's not it. Can't post. No, I just.

I want to start adding up what menu that is. Yeah, I get it. Who's knee is that? Yeah. Whose tattoo is that? I am single. I can do whatever I want to. She's not. And by the way, just because...

DeMaris has been single for like three years and has not been single for three years. I've actually been single for like nine months, but okay. Who is she trying to? I don't want to get too much into a Twitter conversation from 2012, but just because you're single doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. And I think that goes for both genders. Just because you're single doesn't mean you could do it. Because you know, everyone would be like, yo, I'm single.

I can do what I'm. want. And you know the ones that can't do it in one. Speaking of single. I've been single before and there was things I couldn't do. Right. I've been dating someone that we were both single, but there's things, no, I can't do that. Well, then you weren't single.

You need to change your relationships that it's not what single means. Is she talking to you or herself? She's talking to her inner self. That's the sound journey. She's on her sound journey right now. I promise y'all voices will not be the ones I hear them. No, but knowing me, though, I would be on a sound journey. And it's just going to be like, fuck, I didn't send that email to Benner

and I'll hear like Benner cussing me out in my head. And your sound journey? In my sound journey. Yeah, imagine in the pre-talk of sound journeys. Everyone's saying, yeah, last time I met my grandmother and we talked again. And then Demeris goes under the shrooms. No, I got caught. It's Benner sitting there waving.

I got caught in a four-hour conversation with Benner that I could not fucking escape. That is sick. To see Benner with his hat and his new balances on waving at you. How you turn these shrooms off? Yeah, like, these are not the shrooms I want in. Somebody make me throw these up. Speaking of single, Bryce and Tiller put out a single. Outside.

The same way. I'm just saying it's a single. He put out a single outside. How do we feel about it? Listen, I'm cool with the sampling thing, right? Because he sampled, I believe, the Ying Yang Twins. Yeah, Whisper. Whisper.

On one hand, I'm not mad at sampling because it's kind of like, you know, the artist that their record that get paid, they still get money. They still, you know, whatever. But on the other hand, this sampling thing is, it's just a bit much now. It's like, it's a cheat code almost. Like you sampling a song that we already love, the melody. We know the sound we're familiar. And Bryson Tiller is one of my favorite artists.

Like, I love Bryce and Tiller. I think he's actually underrated. But I just, it's the sampling thing to me. It's like a cheat code. Well, you know, I've been against it for a really long time. But I, I'm not mad because, again, yin-yang twins, they get a check. whoever the producers, the writers, everybody kind of still money circulates. So I like it for that.

Well, have we talked about, I think we talk about this off mic with an artist over Maine in America. I understand why people do it, though. And I'm not saying he's in search of a hit, but when your back is against the wall and your label is asking for a hit, nothing is clicking. Sample a hit. This sample, this song right here is proven in the algorithms. Right.

It is by data. This song works. This little melody right here. This pattern works. works in the data. Yeah. So take that, put it behind, stings some new shit.

It's proven. So when your back is against the wall, I think there's not really longevity in it, but, you know, I guess. It's a good record. It's a good record. Bryce and Tiller outside. It's a good record.

I'm not mad at it. I just, again, I'm in a weird, I'm in a weird area right now with sampling. I just, I understand it. And sometimes when it's done right, it's great. but I think that we just kind of, it feels like we're leaning too much into samples right now. What are some songs you think are just off limits for that, for sampling?

They've hit so many off limits songs. I don't even know what to say it. I don't even know if there's any of you want to hear done. There definitely can't be sampled. I want a lady marmalade sample. Again. Yeah, that doesn't say that. You want another one?

I don't know, man. Listen, if it's done right, again, I'm not mad at it. I just feel like, again, with the streaming error now, like Rory said, it's just like, this is proven to work, this melody, this sound, the people already know it, they love it. So it's kind of like a cheat code. But again, I'm not mad at it because, again, producers, writers of the original get paid, money circulates, you know, so it's a beautiful thing in that perspective.

But I would just like to see artists just create more of some new shit, like create more of some new melodies that we love. create some more of some new lyrics that we love. Like, that's just me. Well, what's funny is that we talked about, music has become a lick. So we have more of an influx of artists that are not actually artists,

nor would have been artists to begin with. And probably sometimes don't even know that they're singing over a sample. The producer is just like, this is how, and because it's just a proven thing, no matter who hears that they're going to like it, they may not even know it's a sample that they're rapping or singing over,

and it's easier. And they wouldn't have been artists to create something original to begin with. So it's like, you know, I got crazy following. I know how to deliver lyrics and how to deliver melody. I know how to sing with Autotune. Give me the proof. And the proof is in the sample.

I get it. I'm not mad at it. But it's just like... And I'm not talking about Tiller in this regard. We know... But shout out to Bryson Tiller for putting out a single. Again, I feel like he's one of the more underrated R&B artists that we have. I think Bryson should lean all of his best records.

And I loved his last album, even though, you know, I don't think it got the same acclaim. that his first one did. I really, I really liked his last one. I think where Bryson should fully lean into is the Chipmunk sample. He should be that guy

from exchange to a bunch of the records on the last one. He shines when you have that high-pitched vocal sample. Like not an actual rip of drums and all that shit. Just throw that little vocal sample behind.

For some reason, Tiller's tone with that works every time. Like I love the sample the way he flipped on inhale. Yeah. I love that flip of that sample. That was, you know, that was clever.

That was dope. But yeah, I don't know. I just like to see artists create more original songs and give us some new, some new hits that we love. So artists 10 years from now could sample some of these new records. For sure. 38 Special put out his project, seven shots. 38 Specialman kicking ass for quite a few years now. For sure.

I didn't get a chance to listen to this year. And I love the fact that he gave us. It's only eight joints on here real quick, right to it. Got a joint with Chey Noir and Freeway. Got Rans on the project. I'm shout out to 38 Spesh man seven shots 38 he he's quietly like one of those rappers that I feel like 2023 is going to be a year where we see him get like the big features okay like you know when when you get your feature we're like okay like those type of artists are fucking with him now when

griselda got it and mockami started to get it I feel like I feel like 38 specials he's he's at that point right now. His next project, I think, is going to be the one where people start talking about him. We start seeing more of him with the bigger artists and getting features from the bigger artists and bigger records because he's been quietly doing this thing for the past probably seven, eight years. And, you know, I think it's time that he gets that respect from those bigger artists. For sure. And they start rapping with him. I don't know, you know, if it's something that he's not purposely not doing, not rapping with these dudes, but he's definitely one of the rappers that's definitely on his way

to that big record for sure. Absolutely. 38 spec, 7 shots available now. Check him out. It's my guy. Where were you when the queen died? When the queen died, I think, well, where we did?

No, we weren't in Philly when the queen died. Were we? No, I was after him. Okay, so I was home, probably just chilling on open Instagram and saw the news with everybody else. Devastated, right? No, I feel like we weren't out.

I feel like we all. This happened way after, really. Was it when we were out that night? This happened last Thursday. This happened like while we were getting canceled. This happened last Thursday before we got canceled. Right. Well, around, yeah.

The Queen saved us the day. Okay, so that's, oh, so that's what it was. I was dealing with that. Okay. I knew what we were together. We weren't physically together, but we were, like, all on text. Look at the whirlwind of things we had to do with the queen passing in that. So, yeah, the queen, the Queen Elizabeth II passed away.

And it was something weird happened. The internet seemed to be for some weird reason happy. And I was like kind of on the outside. Why people seemed like there, it was a lot of memes. It was a lot of. They were suggesting that. I saw some people. Oh, the historical context.

Yeah. Well, yeah. I get that. They were saying Irish Twitter, Caribbean Twitter, African Twitter. Indian Twitter were all coming together to rejoice. Somebody hit me and was like, I bet you and Rory are together celebrating right now. And I was like, actually, we're not together at all. I didn't understand the correlation, but I was like, okay.

Then I started seeing memes. I was like, oh, okay, doing the context. I get it. I did feel, I was upset about something else. Like a year and a half ago on a podcast, I had, I did a bit of a rant, an emotional rant about the royal family and how it might disdain for them. And while I think it's cool that Harry and Meg left and all,

I don't give a fuck because I think that family is fucking disgusting. I was killed for over a week on Twitter about that rant and how bad it was. They mentioned it. Then I get on Twitter the day she died and everyone is going in on them joking about a death going nuts. I was like, wait, y'all canceled me for this. Right, right.

But that's how the internet works. You know that. Well, it's fine. They're not ready to jump on a wave until it becomes cool and trinity to jump on a wave. Yeah. And I was, and by the way, my rant wasn't even about death. I just think the family was fucking gross.

And boy, was that a fucking wave to jump on too. It was. That was a day. It was. But listen, I totally understand where people would rejoice for what that family represents and what that family is done and what happened while she was there. But, you know. You don't keep it a buck when we go to London?

What? Should we bring it up? In London? How should we bring it up? London ain't for Playboy. Yeah, but I think the people that are coming to our shows share the sentiments that we share. I don't think they're probably retweet. I know what the rest of the world thinks about the UK.

Yeah. But what does the UK feel about their political regime? Is it split like our country or like, is everyone like, yo, shout out to the royal family? I saw an interview and it was a white girl, a reporter was just walking outside the palace and she was just interviewing passer buyers and she was like, hey, what do you feel about the news? And the girl was like, I don't care. They suck. Like, they did horrible things.

That was my rant. happy that it's over and let's just continue moving. It's not over. There's going to put a new person. I hope we can, you know, the more they pass pretty much is what you're saying, the better will be as a country. And then the report's like, okay. It's a lot of people that share the same sentiments that you probably shared, Rory.

Me, I don't, again, I don't, I really don't give a fuck because I don't think about that family at all. It means nothing to me. I'm American. Like, I mean, I don't know. I saw a, uh, a clip of Tucker. Carlson ended up retweeted on my timeline. And I always click a good Tucker Carlson rant because I think they're fucking hilarious.

Somehow it's Obama's fault. He has like how he retains information and has, it's like the greatest. And like I just love how like he answers his own questions all the time. He's like the people are saying, of course they're saying it. Yeah. Wait, what? So he goes on a rant about everyone, how disgusting everyone is for rejoicing over Queen Elizabeth's death. he's like she led a small country the size of Alabama to conquer the entire world they took over

this they're still in power and I'm like Tucker that's why everyone is happy right right he described all the death they created it was like what they're amazing right they conquered the world like no no that's our issue yeah they conquered people is what they did but yeah I mean I didn't rejoice I actually just continued all my day yeah I mean again I mean you know I don't want to be happy about someone passing, especially that I don't know, never met. It's just weird. I don't think anything that that family did affected me unless I...

I don't know. I don't know. I got to do my history. You'll learn that on your sound journey. I got to... Seeing Queen Elizabeth the second on your sound journey is nasty. Well, I'll put it this way. When the Pilgrims and Christopher Columbus discovered this great country... They discovered a strong word.

Right. They discovered the country. The Pilgrims wanted to leave England and all that other shit and then we ended up going to war with England, right? The only thing that us in England agreed on at that point and bonded with was slavery. So I think it's affected your life a little bit. Okay, well, yeah, I got to do my... We were beefing. We even called the French to help us out.

Like, we was trying to get... We was trying to blow England up. But then it was like, well, I mean, we all agree with this, though, right? So that's where it traces back to them all. I mean, listen, I understand. That's where America and England bonded. Listen, I understand. And so much more of the fans are probably going to be in you guys.

Well, by the way, she did this, this, this. You know that's coming. You'll find out soon. Yeah, like I said, just give me, like I really don't know much about, I've never done my research on this family. It means I don't, I just never really thought about it. We disagreed on religious freedom, but we was like, oh, slavery? Yes. Yeah.

So, yeah. I mean, tell me more about what the family did and what Queen Elizabeth the second is responsible for. And maybe I'll start clapping that she died to. I don't know. But as of right now, I didn't clap. I didn't have to do a British clap. Yeah, I didn't join in on the memes. I didn't, I mean, I saw the news and I was like, oh, okay.

I mean, we were dealing with other shit. It said Betty White living two years longer was us, America taking a victory. She was 99 versus what was Queen Elizabeth. Why, Betty White, though. America has an obsession with Betty White. We love her. Betty White lived longer than Queen Elizabeth. Yeah, we win again.

I will say, uh, What's a, Harry, Harry and, uh, really? Yeah. Wow. What's the other royal couple, why am I blanking Harry and, uh, Megan? Kate? Is there? No, I'm talking about the ones that, like, that hangs out with like Oprah and Obama and Jay-Z.

Yeah. The black one that they exile and hate. Julian said that. Did you see? Did they go? They were walking through the, and they were, there were, some people didn't even want, everyone was shaking hands, kissing their hands. Megan, Mark, Mark, Michael.

openly ignored. Did they go to the, uh, did they go to the, uh, I'm sorry, excuse me. They went to the funeral? Okay, well, that makes me feel better that even royal families have to have awkward funerals. Like, even there's also, you know,

your wife or girl that isn't really loved by the family, but she has to come with you to the funeral. That's always fun. And she wore, she wore an outfit similar, identical to the outfit that Princess Diana wore, right? That was kind of... That was just taking shots at the throne.

Yeah, that was kind of like a, you know, a wink-wink. Yeah, that was like a wink-wink. The tea was hot I get it Yeah Whoa Boston Tea Party Crazy

Yeah Um And the tea party Wasn't that around that time Wasn't that time? Nothing to do with Would you go To say you were dating a girl

And her family More importantly Her parents or grandparents Didn't particularly like you Especially because of your Skin and like the hats You wear and shit And you're like weed smoke

and, you know, they think you're a thug. Oh, so a regular day in my life. So would you then go to be a supportive spouse to go to the funeral of the person that didn't fuck with you? I would go, but I would stay in the car and smoke. Like, I'll be there. Yeah, like, I'll be there. I'm not going to get out and go in the church.

Like, I'll be outside, like, waiting for my girl to, like. You wouldn't ash at the casket? Nah. Okay. I wouldn't ask you. I wouldn't be that disrespectful. But I would be there to support my girl, but I wouldn't be visible. Like, I would be in the car.

I would be in the car smoking, listening to music or something. Like, I wouldn't get out and going into the actual funeral. I would be so petty that I would be, like, overly supportive and nice to the family. Like, all the members that just like me, I would approach them immediately and, like, hug them and be like, oh, my God. She was such a wonderful person. That's what I would do. Yo, y'all would be like that in the face with it. Because then you just ruin that moment for them for life.

For sure. I might have to hit them with the, I might have to hit them with the bishop shit and give them a hug. Oh, for sure. anything you need, you know what I mean? Like, we need to come together at a time like this. Like, yo, she was going too soon. How old was she 97? Saying going too soon for somebody that's 97 is sick.

Like, yo, she's gone too soon. We lost her too soon. I would walk in, go right to the family that sits next to the casket. Hey, God always takes the good ones. At 97. God don't make mistakes. That'd be fucking crazy. He needed her.

He called her home. She's in a better place. Yeah. It's really hot. You know, they killed... See, that's... Think about it. It's really...

At least it's warm. Rory, they killed you for that. They also killed me years ago behind the whole Black Lives Matter thing when I said, yes, Black Lives Matter to quote for Trump. Oh. No, I didn't vote for Trump.

I said, Black Lives Matter. I was with the slogan. I was with the slogan. I said, yes, Black Lives Matter. I'm with that. I said, I'm not fucking with that organization. Somebody has to tell me what that organization means. people killed me.

They said, oh, you sound like, oh, this, that. They killed me for that because I'm saying, I don't know what this organization represents. I don't know who's behind it. I don't know anything about it. I'm with the slogan, Black Lives Matter.

Yes. You believe in Black Lives Matter, not Black Lives Matter LLC. Exactly, right? I get it. They killed me for that. And what do you know, Rory? Well, you're part of the problem. That's why.

A couple years later, Black Lives Matter leader, Shalomia Bauer, accused of stealing $10 million. dollars. From the organization itself. Right. He's called a rogue administrator, a middleman turned Usher.

He's usher now? Usher. Oh, I thought that was Usher. Sorry. A middleman turned usurper in a suit filed in L.A. County Superior Court. He denies all. Of course, he did look at that face.

He hasn't stolen anything. I was just find it crazy that Black Lives Matter just has $10 million chilling that they missed. But this was the thing. But this was the thing I was saying back then, Rory. I'm like, I was 10 mil able to be stolen. During the pandemic, they made so much money. I remember.

And it was like, bro, but what is this? Like, where is this money going? Who are they helping? Are they helping families of victims that died from police brutality? Are they putting, you know, the families in better homes? Are they helping out with the loved ones, the siblings, the kids? Are they paying for tuition? It was so many questions that I had.

Nobody had any answers. All that mattered was black. Black Lives Matter. And I'm like, bro, okay, I get that part. But what is this organization? Sounds similar, though. From similar to what? All organizations? The church. Sounds like he's the Joel Austin of Black Lives Matter. Absolutely. Yeah, but the thing is he's, this whole organization is benefiting off of black death, black trauma, black, you know, homicides and from police brutality. And that was the problem I had because it was like, okay, so they only show up when it's like a of a police killing a black person, but what about all of the young black kids that are

killing each other in these same neighborhoods? Because you're more likely to be killed from somebody in your neighborhood than you are from a fucking cop. Let's just be real. I'm from these same streets. I grew up with like, I never had, yes, do I get nervous when the cops put me over? Separate issue, but it's a separate issue. But my thing is, if the slogan is Black Lives Matter, then is it only Black Lives Matter when a police officer kills us? No, of course not. So that was my thing. I was like, all right, let's dig deeper. Where's this money going?

Are they staying in the community? Are they helping out the black community? What are they doing with it? From what I remember when BML, the organization started, they had talked about taking the money and opening a lot of centers in certain cities that would be based on black development. That I don't know and can't speak to because I'm not sure. I did see a lot of people getting mad at the founder who bought that mansion and put her whole

family on salary and the only thing they did was throw a party there. I've seen a lot of people criticize what they've been doing with this money. So I do not know. But I am happy that people are going to investigate it because outside of people donating their hard-earned money to Black Lives Matter, it's been a lot of organizations using it to donate millions of dollars to be like, hey, look how progressive we are. Like so many, especially on the left, so many organizations and political shit and, you know, anyone running for fucking some type of seat. has been saying like, hey, look, I just gave $2 million to Black Lives Matter. And it's like, well, you give $2 million to something that we know is in play, not just say, hey, look at me, I'm so woke.

But $10 million? Like, it's not $40,000, but $10 million? That's just $10 million that they know about. Because if I'm not, I could be wrong about this, but during the pandemic, I believe they made well over like $200 million. So, you know, skimming 10 is kind of light if you made $200 million. But this is what I'm saying. So who else is skimming?

there's way more money out there that they don't know. So that's that's my problem. Like they're taking money from people and, you know, getting this whole, you know, movement going. But where is this money going? Is it a 5103C, whatever that shit is called? I don't know. We got to call on. 513C, which is a, is it a nonprofit?

Is it a nonprofit? Is it supposed to be a nonprofit? It's supposed to be. Yeah, I bet. Nonprofits are very interesting because at what point are you not profiting? When do we decide this isn't profit? No, somebody's profiting. Somebody has 10 million that's missing.

somebody's profiting. Just at the end of the day, like everyone else on their taxes, you have to show that you made no money. Right, exactly. So, yeah, I don't, listen, this is just another, you know, event in the whole BLM movement of, you know, money not being accounted for, money being skimmed off the top. People living lavish lifestyles with the money of trauma in our community. And so, yeah, keep investigating, keep finding what his money is. So we can keep not fucking with the people that's behind. behind this organization.

But yes, the slogan, 100% Black Lives Matter forever. Also, side note, this Sunday, we are in Chicago for a live show. Are we? Shit, I have planned Sunday. Oh, yeah, we have to, we have to go to. No, you do have plans since we have a live show in Chicago. It's in the calendar. Yeah.

Yeah, so we'll be in Chicago on Sunday for the live show. I'm excited. Shot Town. Tickets are still available. New Aurora Mall with an N.com. I am a little nervous outside of the obvious. Chicago's a great town, but I did see that they're starting a purge soon. I've read that.

I saw it at Illinois as of January 1st, 2020. Is it just for two days, like a 48-hour thing? Or is it just like the entire year? Is it like the movie? I don't know what it is. It's a limited for now. It says January 1, 20203, around 400 criminal defendants will be released back into the community due to the Safety Act, which was passed in 2020.

Oxymoron. The criminal defendants will be released is due to the Safety Act. Yeah, the Safety Act. The outlet notes that under the law acts such as aggravated batteries, robberies, burglaries, hate crimes, aggravated DUI's, vehicular homicide, drug-induced homicides, all drug offenses including delivery of fentanyl and trafficking cases are not eligible for detention unless the people prove by clear and convincing evidence the person has a high likelihood of willful fight, no, excuse me, willful flight to avoid prosecution.

Okay, so they're trying to get people out of jail that really weren't doing crazy crimes. like that, which I agree with. Well, drug-induced homicide is a crazy crime. Aggravated batteries is creepy. They're not getting released. Everyone else but the aggravated batteries, robberies, bulgaries. No, no, no, no. Acts such as. Oh, are not.

Those are not eligible for detention. Yeah, yeah. So, I agree with this. No, you're missing what I'm saying. They're not eligible for detention. So they're not eligible to be arrested and held in jail. Yes, yes. She's right. Unless they think that they're a flight risk.

Right. Right. Right. Yeah. So if you kill my aunt because you were high on fentanyl and, you know, they feel like, oh, well, he won't, he won't leave the state. We can just let him out. They'll let him back out.

Yeah. Oh, it makes total sense. Well, good, because then I'll find you and kill you myself. So I understand what this purge thing is about. So, so while you were purge? Um, if given a chance. If given, if it was, if it made sense, I would. Like, if somebody, you know, killed somebody that I love and, you know, whatever,

or maybe if they let them out, then I would think about harming that person. A purge means lawless, right? Yeah, laws. Like anything can go. You can break any law. You tell me. For a certain amount of time.

Without, yeah, without any consequences. And what would the point of a purge be just to like get rid of the undesirables? No, for people to deal with their shadow selves and deal with their dark energy so that they... Oh, so a sound journey. So that you... Yeah. So that you lessen crime in the movies, I guess. So a purge is a crime journey, not at sound journey.

For the rest of the year. Let's just, let's just be honest. This is a terrible fucking idea. Like this is a terrible fucking because then it says at the same time cases such as armed robbery or murder may see a defendant being detained by the judge only if there is clear evidence that the defendant poses a real and present threat to the safety of a specific identifiable person or person. So now if you kill somebody and the judge has the authority to say he killed that person, he doesn't look like he'll go out and kill anybody else. because judges can just look at you. We know someone that's just like kind of murdering. They'll let you, they won't detain you.

And then it's like, you know. You look like a one body. Like imagine if like, if Ted Bundy was like, got it. Look at all he doesn't like he'll kill anybody else. That's why he killed so many people. Exactly my point. So this is just a terrible fucking idea. But I'm asking you, what law would you break?

Illinois is wilding. But what law would you break if you had the freedom to break laws? We're in fantasy world right now, not reality. For 24 hours? I mean, we know where I stand with my 24 hours to live. Yeah, we know, we thought that might change after the sound journey. Apparently not. No, it didn't.

You found more people he'd murder. Yeah. Now I know what part of my body I should enter to do something. Steal shit. Go in some stores and just steal shit. You're going Supreme. I'll have a flight club. Yeah, I just go on like him like, you'll back up, back up, my nigga and just start

snatching all the sneakers and, yeah. Well, hold on. Like mom and pop stores or you go after corporations? No, no, no, no, not like the snow. No, you don't never want to steal. from the small guys. You go straight to Pepsi. Still Pepsi.

Yeah. I would do that. But this is a bad fucking idea for Illinois. I don't know if people know what's going on in Illinois already. During a purge,

you think you could successfully rob a bank? Successfully. Well, I mean... First of all, if a bank teller is working during the purge, that's hilarious.

Is it in everyone's best interest to rob the bank? No, they lock all that stuff down. Remember guys in the movie? They lock all that stuff down. Yeah, they try to do that in Soho, too. Well, Banks are locked all the time.

Oh, no, they lock the Chanel Store down. They tried to do that so. The Nick tried to get in there another night and it wasn't happening. But Chanel's store has a window, though, no? It's just what glass with the bags. No, they had the gate down. Yeah, but you don't think during their purge they're all going to be fucking armed? Yeah.

I mean, during a purge, what? Elon must create a flamethrower. Yeah. I'm sure we could go get Elon's flame throw. It doesn't work. This would be a scary house to be in during a purge, I feel like. Why? Why?

I don't know. It's just the way the stairs are and shit. I don't know. You're just barricing. the stairs. I was, yeah, I'm about to say, if you were in a video game, this would be the best place to ever just chill right there. High ground's always the best. In, uh, what's it, the crouch shit in call duty? Yeah, and you just stand here and let all the zombies come up. Well, the zombies are already here. There's a cemetery literally 30 yards away. And who's going to

want to purge near a cemetery? I'm in the safest place ever. No, the zombies are going to come out. You never saw Thriller? New Jersey is a purge. All right. Well, you're in two fantasy. Where's about real people? Yeah. No, I'm saying, I would, me, I would, I would, I would, I Yeah, I would steal shit. Would you rob the plug? You'd rob the plug? No, no, no. I never vouched.

I never, I never, I never vouched. I never, like that record for that. I never was an advocate of that. And it's robbing the plug. That's so stupid. Why would you do that? What would you do? What would I do?

Run off on the plug. Why? No, you need the plug. You need him. Like, you're doing great business together. What would you do? What would I do? What would I do?

I don't know. I really like quality electronics. So I'd probably hit the Apple store, steal some speakers, a nice expensive record player. I don't want to hurt anyone. I just want to, like, get nice stuff for myself. You're going to Sam Ash.

Those fucking guitars are mine, buddy. If this was your dream the whole time, I get you some fake gift cards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to... You're not scared. Are you kidding me? Best Buy and PC Richardson's are the easiest things to scale.

Oh, shit. All right, then let my purge start now. All of Brooklyn purged in the summer of 2011. Crazy. And then they wrote raps about it. Yeah, the Brooklyn Purge. Mine would be so boring now that I say it out loud. I just steal like a bunch of vinals.

Look at your hipster ass headphones. Edon. Mine's pretty boring. I'm not going to lie, yeah. Mine's not much better. I'd probably go like Robert Walmart or some shit. You can do that now. You could.

Everybody who walks in Walmart is a fucking thief. Are you staging on yourself right now? Who has never walked in Walmart? I'd accidentally steal shit out of Walmart. Accidentally. Yeah, right. Dika. She'd be mad.

I'm demarcely mad when the self-checkout line is packed. Yeah, right? That's how she really gets it up. Oh my God. Everyone's that self-checkout? Like, yes, good, everybody. Yeah, we're all stealing. Everybody's stealing.

Scan this. Put that on the side. Scan it. We know how that shit goes. I'm actually terrified to do that. I'm terrified. What? Nah.

My mom and sister got caught doing that shit one time. They tried to lock them up. What you got to do is you take the most expensive shit and you put it underneath the cart. And then you walk out. Forget you scan it. Yeah. They get to the car. No, they be like, let's see that receipt.

You try to. Nah, they ask for your receipt. Or maybe it's because I'm from, like, where I'm from. They ask for your receipt. Now that I think about some of the nastier things I saw. Yeah, they asked me for the receipt walking out of Costco one day. But no, they'll ask that even at Lowe's, they'll just look at it just for the camera to see that they're doing their job. Like, I bet.

He ain't going through each item. Like, okay, that, that, come on, fam, you're not doing. Yeah, but if my receipt is $40 and I got a fucking base. You need to pace it. You need to pace it. You have to know how to pace it with certain items. did. Like, you got a whole car full and you ever see $7? Like, you can't.

If you're like crab cakes and salmon. $10. She going crazy. De Maris going crazy. Demaris, if we're shopping at Target or Lowe's together and you see me looking at the car, I promise you, I'm not thinking about what I forgot. I'm pacing the items in my head of how I'm going to check them out and what's going to be left off.

And maybe during my sound journey, that's something I saw that was disgusting about me. When I get to a self-checkout, even though I have money and I can pay for this, part of me is like, well, I have to steal something. Like it's not self-checkout It's just steal Yeah, it's off GP I have to steal something Checkout

Of this You also could just switch stickers Switch the I'm too old for that Yeah I'm not doing that I'm just telling you how the thieves do it I'm not

None of you would steal a car During the Purge You guys want vinyl records It's a fucking loser ass podcast What am I gonna do with the car In New York What am I gonna do with the car in New York Because then when the purge

End I have to pay for parking I have to pay for the car Not like to buy the car But to keep it up At least you got that lead Zeppelin vinyl At least I'd play that shit. He'll never track that down. He's thinking about parking and say,

Oh, but Pink Floyd. Like, bro, you can find, all right, find parking. All right. You know what in the rob of Sam Ash is sick? You know how crazy that is? That is really sick. I would actually lock myself down in the house. I feel like you do that anyway.

Yeah, kill her. At least I'm getting stuff. I feel like people will be looking for me. So I feel like I'm going to have. Who is looking for you in the purge? The same people looking at her Instagram when she deactivates it. that's why you deactivate your shit you're like no the purge might happen you are really apparently i got to shut my shit down i'm just most okay so if all crime is legal like you're not

afraid of your house getting robbed or things like that like i'm locking down i'm not going to be outside leaving my house unattended while i'm out doing willy-nilly like no i'm in my crib lock down security when i buy a house i'm not going to lie that's that's one thing i think i would think about like yo what if one night just a bunch of people decided yo we're going robbed at house tonight. That's why legal firearms are in this place. But it's just like, you know. I think the purge films do a good job of instilling that everyone has that instinct

to kill. But I think in real life, if that happened, it would just be a lot of people looting stores. Yeah, that's all it would be. There'd be more murder. It wouldn't be. Everyone wouldn't immediately be like, murder. Yeah, no, no, no. That's, unless you just live in a sick-ass fucking city where you're, or your neighbors

hate each other. Or you're me. People don't not kill people because it's illegal. I disagree with that a lot. Okay, you disagree with that a lot, but... I'm not saying everyone would murder. Roy was in his sound drinker. He was kill, kill, kill, kill, run, run, rub.

That's what his sound journey was saying. Roy was going to run. Heavy metal. Like, they were playing nice chimes again. And all he said, kill, kill, kill. He's got nine-inch nails. Like, yo, what's role with this guy? You guys remember the son of Sam?

Yes. I'm the son of Basley. Oh, God. Basley told me to murder all these. My sound journey, Basley was like, murder. murder than more. Your sound journey basically

is going to be peeing on everything. Like, kill, kill, kill. What would be like pick up lines during the purge? Because you know like when COVID hit and like when certain things happen in life, it all gets like added in to your

your dating life? Yeah. Like all COVID pickup lines were like how have you been dealing? Like, yo, Purge is crazy. It's safe over here. Oh, Purge. If COVID was how have you been dealing

the purges, how have you been stealing? Like that's what you got. Got some of your favorite record. Yeah, like, what have you been stealing? Oh, you got that? Okay, cool. I definitely hit him with the, I'm scared to be alone tonight. Got to do that.

Doing a purge? Yeah, I'm scared to be alone tonight. She'll come through. They're going to kill her easy. And then he fuck around and kill me. Yeah, yeah. They're going to kill Damaris easy. I just wrote the next part of movie.

She makes the purge wild easy. Like, that's the shortest purge ever. Like, yo, she invited me into the outlaws door for her. Like, what the fuck? And, you know, women are so shallow that you could text a photo of you robbing the flower store. But like, I remember you like lilies. You're so thoughtful. We're still in flowers during a purge.

What a fucking panties. He's like $25 like, you down bad. That's something Drake would do. Especially because they're going to die by the time. Not me. Oh my God, I'm so glad you did that. Keep potting. Nah, Drake could definitely steal a automars forget for a bitch.

Nah, that's future. During a purge. Why would he steal it? Because he just, why would you still, why would he steal records when he can afford them? Why would you loot flight club when you can buy all the sneakers? But saying Drake in a purge is, stealing a watch, an AP is fucking crazy. Like, you, think about

that for it. Like, if I was in the purge and I'm going to the AP store to steal some shit and I'm running to Drake, I'm like, nah, fam, nah, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this. You got enough for the year. Yeah, yours tomorrow. I'm robbing, yeah, I'm going to your house. Like, oh, this is where you have? So, all right, nobody at your house. All right, I'm going over there. Like, you can't run it to Drake at the fucking AP store

during the purge. I would be like, oh, Phil, what are you doing? Why are you here? Drake, Jake, he'd be purchasing one. Yeah, he'd be like, oh, man's a stealing. I'm buying. And you know, you know in one of the time records he would do a bar of like, yo, your man had to steal you that watched during the purge. He definitely going to shit on you. You date guys that actually stole during the purge?

Yes, Drake. We all were doing it. The purge bars would go crazy. Purge bars. And whatever month, like say it happened in September the purge. He'd be like, in September, I purged your wifey. Like, all right, Drake. I get it.

You fucked my wife. I understand. Perch. He perched your wife. Like, he stole her from you? Had your wife. Had your wife he purging during the lockdown. You ain't even see what Drake was doing during the purse.

He thought he was just at the AP store. No, he wasn't doing that. Had your wife he purging during. Yeah, this is just a bad idea, though. I don't think that Illinois should be doing this. But, I mean, at least it's not happening while we're there, right? I don't think so. All right, cool.

We're getting the fuck out of there. Would you buy food stamps during the purge? What? You don't buy. What kind of trade? What do you can buy, right? You steal. You don't buy during the bird.

You can buy food stamps on somebody. You can't steal somebody's food stamp cards. You need their pen. No, but I'm not. I wouldn't be purchasing anything during the purse. Who would be seeking food stamps during a purse? You just steal the food. Just steal the fucking steak.

Again, she scans everything at self-checkout. Of course. She'll be to all to her self-checkout while everybody's running out the fucking store. She can't be scared. She's like, sure the machines are down. She'll be looking for help. Like, um, these are not worse. It's like, yo, ma'am, if you don't just take your fucking T-bone and get the fuck out of here, like, take that shit home.

She'd be looking like, ooh, avocados are on sale. She's definitely going to bag them up. Oh, for sure. And weigh them. Not at Whole Foods. Imagine weighing produce during the purge. Man, come on, bro. This is just a bad idea.

I don't, I don't think this purge. Well, it's not a purge. It's not a purge. It's a, it's a purge. It's not a purge, but they're calling it. It's the closest thing, I guess, we're going to ever. get to they're letting criminals. They're purging O'Brock.

Yeah. They're purging the prison. Because purging means what, like a cleanse? To get rid of, cleanse, yeah. Yeah, so I guess it's, that's what they call it the purge. It's supposed to purge or soul. It's not the purge, no, it's not that purge. Did I see the right purge?

The one I saw, they purged Staten Island. They have three of them. Oh, yeah, that is the one that I went to the premiere for. In Staten Island? They just have the projects. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a bad. The Staten Island purge movie. It's just Staten Island. they just purged Staten Island? Just Staten Island, yeah. All right, who from Staten Island? Who wrote that? Because we can get into a whole deeper thing.

Like somebody had a traumatic experience in Staten Island as a kid. For sure. And they wrote that movie. They bus people from Manhattan onto the island and then they block it all off the bridges and everything

and then it's just people just murrayed. How to say we're trying to get rid of this borough without trying to say it. They were purging. They were all the rich people were killing poor people. Is that the one you're talking about?

No, I think this is one of the... Why would all the rich people kill poor people. That's why they're rich. Never mind. You get a little bit too deep, right? I'm just like,

rich people need poor people. That's how they get rich. Yo, $2,900 in the food stamps or dinner with Bawao? Well, all right. Does Bowow wow have a million cash on him like he did with us

for the dinner? Because that changes things. I mean, I had ice cream. I had dessert with Bowowow. It was pretty fun. We had a good conversation. $2,900. And food stamps.

and food stamps. Well, I feel like where they accept food stamps doesn't have a vegan menu from all. Does Whole Foods accepts food stamps? I actually don't know. Probably. I would hope they would. I would hope so. I don't think so.

If Whole Foods or Trader Joe's takes food stamps, I'll take the food stamps, bow. My bad. I'm sorry. But here's the thing. If you go to Trader Joe's, well, not Trader Joe's. If you go to Whole Foods, $2,900 in food stamps is what? Two trips to Whole Foods? Oh, they do.

All Whole Foods locations except EBT. Yeah. Oh, yeah, bow, you're out of there. I'm taking that $2,900 in food stamps. My bad, bow. Why was this situation? tweet. So Bow Wow was charging $1,000 for a

meet and greet. So Twitter... Wait, really? Something along those lines. He was charging what people assumed to be way too much money to meet him. I disagree with that. I think there's a lot of bow wow fans that would pay $1,000 to me. Twitter did a classic spin on our favorite

JZ question where it's the drop off is insane in compensation. Wait, hold on. Hit back real quick, please. Sorry to interrupt you, Julian. The original tweet is $2,900 and food stamps are dinner with bow wow. The first reply is, I'd use the food stamps to make dinner for bow wow, and I'd smash after. I bet he got good cat.

And the dude's name is cum Borell. I'm gonna leave that one. Twitter is the craziest place on earth. These replies are about to be incredible. Why do people, why do people act like bow wow wasn't like a, like, a fucking, a phenom at one point? It's just, is it just fun to do that? You know some people just become fun to make fun of or dislike. And Bow Wow's been around for so long and we've seen him for so long that it makes the jokes easier because we've known him our whole lives.

Someone said I feel like Bow Wow would take the food stamps. Bow Wow was rich. I don't know what the fuck y'all talking about. See, that's what I'm saying. So people just, I mean, I get it. It's just to poke fun at him. But yeah, Ba'u, I ain't allowed. I would have to take that $2,900 go right to Whole Foods, man.

How much, what's the split on food stamps selling them these days? If I have $2,900 in food stamps, can I? You usually sell it for half, so like $1,500 cash. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. $15. But again, if Bow Wow has the million dollars cash,

might behoove me to go to dinner with him and tell some of my friends the location of which we're eating at. So you're saying you're going to get Bow Wow set up? During the purge, I would go to dinner with Bow Wow and rob the million dollars that he had on him. Asking Baowow wow out to dinner during the purge? It's crazy. Where are y'all eating during the purge? That's what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck is going?

Are we watching the same Purge movie? Nobody was out having dinner anywhere. I would take the dinner with Bawao. You would? Because he would teach you how to make $2,900 in food stamps, right? Exactly. You have a different mentality. It's called the diamond package, and $1,000.

You'd get to hang with Bowowow for 30 to 45 minutes. Wait, what? Only 10 fans in each city. That's a lot of time commitment. 10 people for 45 minutes. That's a really long time. No, that's not really. They probably do all 10 people.

It's like a group. Like, we all just hang out for 40 minutes together. You get a photo, the meet and greet. You attend the pre-show, VIP lounge party. You get the digital download, all that stuff. This is at a concert or just, he's just running around doing big. Is that the Millennium tour? This is during the Millennium Tour.

Oh, okay. You thought this was just bow on a regular Thursday. Just doing pop-ups. Y'all would meet me in Charlotte tonight. The first 10 people, we're hanging out for 40 minutes. And you get an exclusive drawstring bag filled with. I feel like people were paid for food stamps. Do we know how many?

Wait, the tour didn't start yet, though, right? I feel like they've been on a millennium tour for four years now. As they should, though. I never know when the tour is happening. Like, I just feel like we just see like B2K beefing at one point. They were like, oh, they're on tour. That's the rollout for the tour. They did it the last tour.

Let's do it again. I saw a video, I guess, of, um, it may be a new love and hip hop coming, I think, with like B2K. It was a Fizz and what's the other guy's name? Fizz and, um... I don't know. I forgot the members. name. It's Fis. Jaybug. It was Fis, J. Bug, and Ray J.

He is what you asked for this. You exactly produced this. No, no, that's not RSVP though. R.SvP is a whole different. My bed. My bed. Yeah, it's a whole different conglomerate. Darker deeper. Criminally? Yeah, it's a whole different conglomerate. And Ray J. was sitting at the piano and Fizz was standing at the piano and Jaybug was sitting down. And they had like, I guess the conversation got heated. Hopefully it mayweather wasn't there. No, he doesn't. Why is something always get heated when Ray J is playing the piano?

Because. Every single time when Ray J. hits those keys. It's songs in the key of life. That's Ray J's. That's not. No. It's songs in the be of life. Oh. On neighborhoods. On neighborhood. That's two different. I know. That is too different. Yeah. Sounds in the sea of life. Yo. So they were sitting down and I guess they got an argument and they were trying to, like,

Ray J was talking like, like, like, Y'all not hot. Like, Ray J. was talking like he hotter than B2K right now today. Okay. So then they were like, yo, bro, we got like big number one records like and the conversation just got heated and Jay Book was like... Did Wack make a clubhouse room about it? To debate it? No, I hope not.

Ray J. said, no, J. Book told Ray Jee, yeah, sit here and say that in my face. And then the conversation just went left. And Ray Jays said, look, we can step outside right now and catch a feed. About some R&B records? Yo, I'm like, yo, why are you arguing? Yeah, we go outside and bump, bump, bump, if you want to. If you got one wish, we go outside.

Bro, I sat there and watched that shit. I'm like, though, Ray J. I don't think, I don't know what Ray J's contract is with any of these networks. But I hope. He's a genius, bro. He does this on purpose. Bro, he is the greatest television to just sit and watch in history. But out of doubt, between him and Flav of Flav, the two greatest TV characters ever.

You know what I would love to hit DSPs and, uh, Wack and Ray J. You guys can, you can have this jewel for free. Imagine taking all of Wack 100's clubhouse rants and arguments and having Ray Jee's, score them on the piano. Just like beautiful keys behind Wack just going crazy on Clubhouse. How much do we think? You would listen to that out.

Absolutely. I would listen to a compilation of Wax Clubhouse Rance without a doubt. Yeah, now imagine them being scored by Ray J. Yeah, no. I see what you're going with it? Something else, Ray J. Why is Ray J?

Oh, Ray J, he's in the news for, he's the first man in history also with all the other things he did. He has a tech company, some of the biggest TV appearances ever. and now he has a he's the first man to do a PowerPoint presentation

with his text messages on Instagram Live On Instagram Live I almost want to save that entire thing for Patreon We can just let them know what happened And then we can break it down on Patreon Okay cool

So he went on there to what Ray J Kim Kardashian Yeah he went on He went on Instagram Live To break down And show people that he didn't leak Because I guess however many years later

Now people are still talking about The Sex Tate And Ray J feels like he's still being Painted as the villain Like he leaked the sex tape So now he's going out of his way. He put together a nice, beautiful, powerful PowerPoint presentation for us to prove that Chris Jenner and Kim were behind the whole thing. And, you know, he didn't leak anything.

It was a business deal. Contracts were signed. Chris Jenner actually made them go to Santa Barbara and shoot another episode, if you want to call it that. Yeah, another episode. I've never been to Santa Barbara, but I would imagine it would be a great place to this. Yeah, beautiful, beautiful place. And so I just thought that it was dope to see Ray J just become the first man to do another thing, which was put together a PowerPoint presentation via text messages and hold his phone to the projector

so that we can see the text messages while we were all on IG Live. It was a lot going on, a lot of moving parts. The production was incredible. True showman. True showman. Ray J. Let us know that he can't really see. So he was doing his best to make sure that we could see the text messages.

So yeah, man, I don't know if people even really care about this, but it was a beautiful... We're going to break it down. Yeah, it was a beautiful presentation. Beautiful presentation that Ray J put together for us. Did you ever see the sketch of Ray J and Vince Staples of when Vince gets caught cheating? I don't think so. It's fucking hilarious. Also, Vince Staples love and appreciation for Ray J is...

Oh, yeah. I mean, he broke down what we've all been saying for so long. I mean, Ray J. is the goat. He's the first to do everything. Yeah. And congrats to us. It's Vince. Vince has a TV show coming out. Is it on Netflix? Yeah, it's greenlit for Netflix. That's amazing. Vince is fucking hilarious, a great act. That's going to be, I don't even need to see the trailer yet. I know that shit is going to be amazing. So shout out to Vince. Kenya Barris is an executive producer on that too.

Yeah, man, Vince, I think Vince is just trying not to rap and be around rappers. No, Vince is just, he's just not just rap. Oh, I mean, he's never just been mad. He has so many different layers. He's, you know, he's a brilliant mind. He's very intelligent. You know, he's, to me, he breaks all stereotypes being from where he's from. You wouldn't expect him to be able to, you know, talk about as many different things as he can, be as knowledgeable on as many different things as he is. Great personality, great character. I just, I love everything about Vince Staples. I'm supporting anything Vince Staples does.

It's loosely based on his life. So I'm curious to see how far they go. Loosely. Into his actual life, though. Loosely. Vince, they got to pay a stupid bag to get the real based. Not the loosely base, you know, you can cut a nice deal, but. I think the law enforcement.

For the plant base? Yeah. Plant base? No, you got to break the bank for the plant based. I just hope the character is enough like him where he can just get his jokes off. Yeah. I'm sure it will be. No, Vince is fucking hilarious.

He's just, he's one of my favorite people, man. I love Vince. So we haven't recorded a regular episode since the sketch. And, Ma, you got a lot of praise for your acting skis. on our juice sketch. Oh, that's, oh, that's all. Oh, that one. We have to satisfy.

Which praise did we get on the other one? Oh, yeah. I got everything but praise on the other one. No, not the one we got canceled for. And all I did was turned down a joint. Oh, my God. Look what I get canceled for. I said no to drugs.

Nancy Reagan would have been so proud. I mean, like, look, I just said no to drugs, bro. And I got canceled for that. It's fucking crazy. Your bag of family love that. Yeah, I don't know. So, yeah, the juice kit was, was dope. We had fun with that.

So would you ever consider acting? They said you would be good in like one of the power book roles. I would like to see him. That's racist. That is very. They threw me right to power book? I'll go even further. I would love to see you in Vince's show as a Long Beach Crip.

Now, that would be funny. Let me hear a guy from New York being a long beach group. I know, but let me, you have to act. Let me hear your West Coast accent. Come on, you hang out with enough gang members in L.A. You got it down pat. What's good, homie? Homi.

Hami. Homi. How me. That's how they say homie. No, that's not how they say Yes, it is. It's like West Syracuse. Okay.

Hami? I've never heard that my life. That sounds more Middle Eastern than anything. Yeah, like, I thought she was ordering hummus. Like, what do you talk about? Let me get some of that homie here. Yeah, like, what the fuck is that? Yo, the homie here is really good.

Wait till they bring out the homie. You're going to lose it. I've never been, but Yelp says the homie is to die for. You have to try the homie. But we cannot leave until. Wait, what other words? West Coast slang, you know. Is this Mediterranean hobby?

De Maris is crazy. Is this Greek homie? Pull up the core, cause. See that? Yeah, that was better. That was much better. Pull up the car? The core.

They don't say core. They say core. They do not say car. Is that someone from Boston and Los Angeles? That's somebody that just left L.A. say core. They don't say car. No, they do not. Am I fucking lying, Julian?

Cor. Core? No, just let her. He's just let Pilates? What is she talking about? Carpast you. You want to go to? core power, they need some Homi.

I can't let her kill my L.A. people. After I work on my core, I like to get some Homi. You know what? That's really good for that digestive system after I work on my core. Oh, man. But yeah, we have fun with the juice with the juice get to promote the show. Tickets on sale now, new Rorynmall.com. We're in Chicago this weekend in D.C. on the 23rd.

So yeah, we have fun with that. I saw people hit me up like, oh, I didn't know you could act. I'm like, bro, I don't know I can do anything until I try it. So I'm glad to people like they love it. It's inspiring. Yeah, I mean, you went to art school. So it's in there. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm comfortable on stage.

We had training, theater, live shows, obviously performance and the choir and shit like that. So I'm not afraid to be in performing or be in front of a camera or be on stage. So I guess people got a glimpse of that maybe. I don't know. And then I've watched that movie a million times. I feel like I can do that in my sleep. Most people don't know you played Othello in high school. Othello.

He definitely was O. You definitely was O. I did not play O. You love O. Don't say you don't love O. I do not love O. We played Desdemona. See, he knows.

I have never played Othella. I've never played an ad. But yeah, so we had... With the Capulets and what was the other one? Yeah, were they the first gang? That was the first gang war? Yeah. It must have been.

It must have been. It's so funny. I would think so. You can argue it for sure. But yeah, we had a good time with that, man. And obviously, you know, we've been saying it, but... Shakespeare was inciting gang violence with his art? Absolutely.

He definitely was. we're going to do more of that, some longer forms of that. Cough, cough, cough, cough. Yeah, live shows. But, yeah, we have fun with it. So I'm glad the people liked it. And, yeah, I've gotten some, you know, calls and stuff asking if I would really try my hand at acting.

And why not? For sure. I think we both should. I mean, well, I definitely want it. We have, yeah, we've talked about it. So, yeah, we're going to do more of that. But acting is fun. That's just, like, legitimately fun.

No, it's a lot of fun, especially when you get to write and tell your own stories. That's like a dream. be able to sit and write and produce something and watch it happen on screen and and love the product. And like so much stuff in your life that has happened, you can explain to people. It's a fucking movie. It's a fucking movie. It just hits different when they can actually watch.

So you can relive what I actually went through. It's a fucking movie. So yeah, we have fun with the juice kit. And I didn't want to address the other skit that we did. But I guess we can, right, wrong. I don't think we should spend too much time on it. But listen, man. If you understood what we were trying to do, we were trying to make fun of people that are homophobic and how weird they look and how dumb it is to be homophobic.

But hold on. Backtrack, first of all, the skit was us making fun of how stupid people look when they are not necessarily homophobic because that wasn't our thing. We were more so acting like we were scared of the little murder character. Yeah, there was layers to the entire thing. It wasn't about him being gay. It was more so like, this is a dude that's on TV killing people. he's a gangster in this in this show and he sat he sits down walks in the room and we're kind of like not we don't know we're indifferent indecisive about it like he's cool that is that he's an actor so yeah not also gay or a murderer and that doesn't matter how dumb there's so many layers here's my thing

you can say it's not funny and i'm with you all the way i'll never be mad at someone and it sounds like that's just not funny yeah but don't say my intent was something it wasn't yeah and and that was the thing that i was offended about when i saw people saying oh they're being homophobic. Bro, if you don't know by now, you don't follow us, you don't, we're just fine. I know a lot of people with new listeners. They're new to the whole Rory and all thing. We're not homophobic at all.

Like, at all. I have so many, yeah, it's just stupid that I even have to say that. But again, I understand the platform and responsibility. We're not homophobic. I have gay friends, gay relatives that I love and support. I don't even think about, I don't see gay. The only sexuality I'm worried about is mine. than just being honest.

I don't give a fuck with anybody with two consenting adults are doing sexually. Never crossed my mind. We shot a skit. We had fun with it. Didn't think that people would be offended by it. And listen to the interview.

It's an amazing interview that is very much pro-LGBQ. Yeah, but that was the thing that I knew that people did not see the episode that were mad at that because they would know exactly. Some people thought that that wasn't even skit. They thought we really treated Jay Alphonse like that.

Well, then you're just dumb. Which was stupidest. Because of the virality of the skit, I think most of those people people that were outraged saw it out of context. Oh, for sure. One that was familiar with even people when I did get picked up by bigger channels, people in the comments like,

yo, you clearly don't know who, A, you two are. B, you don't even know that there's a full interview that comes with this. This is clearly scripted. A lot of people were like, damn, they really did my man's dirty like that.

That's fucked up. People thought it wasn't a skit. But the people like that, and me and J. Fon spoke and, you know, we had text messages all weekend. And I let them know, I'm never addressing people that aren't

intelligent because you'll be fucking talking to them forever and they just will not understand because some people just not can't comprehend and can't understand what you're saying so or or refuse to because there are people that yeah they're hell bent on whatever narrative and agenda to be intelligent but they don't want to get any new information and not only that people have agendas people have narratives that they're paid paid to spin on the internet so when you understand that and what's going on out there like I mean you know it is what it is all I'm saying at the end of the day the main part of that sketch was to show how dumb it looks

and how stupid you are and narrow-minded to be homophobic or... It's stupid. It's dumb and I'm not homophobic. Neither is my partner Rory. And neither is Jay Alphonse. I don't even think that needs to be said. I mean, anybody that thinks Jay Alphonse is homophobic is just fucking stupid. Well, apparently

were the new Ari Spears and Tiffany Addish. They were the same. Who is who? I think mall is Tiffany Haddish. You think? Yeah. Oh, I think I give bubbly Tiffany vibes. Because y'all got the same hit? You're the opposite of bubbly.

Like you're like, still, still water. He said it. As Eric Spears. I think Eric Spears has probably bigger hips than Tiffany Haddish. Not that I've thought, it judged that. Yeah. We can wrap it up. But if I did, it would be okay.

It was a great skit. I think we had fun. People, I've seen way more people laughing at that that understood it. A lot of gay people, too. They weren't offended by it. They were in common saying, listen, how are y'all fending about this? It's just jokes. Clearly this is a skit.

It's not nothing serious. Like, y'all clearly didn't watch the interview, watch the episode. Which is like, I understand. People out there just get paid to react and cause a fracas or whatever you call it about shit. And it's just like, all right, I understand. But the bottom line is it wasn't meant to be anything disrespectful. We weren't trying to disrespect anybody. That wasn't the energy behind it.

And, you know, it is what it is. But I was told that I incited violence towards the gay community. I said no to drugs, bro. Well, I incited violence. I said no to drugs. But it is what it is. What the fuck it's going on? But yeah, I mean, that was the sketch thing.

And like everything, it moved on within 24 hours. So it is what it is. Again, shout out to J. L. Fon. Shout out to the entire cast and Chris. Rupy Valley, good luck tonight. Congrats and a salute to arguably the greatest athlete ever. Serena Williams played in the U.S. Open last weekend in what appears to be her final match of her career.

You know, it was dope to see a lot of these young tennis players now just talking about Serena and how even men and women and just, you know, saying how because of Serena and Venus and what they were able to do with the sport and inspire them to get into tennis. It was good to see everybody. Salute Serena. A lot of celebrities were at the U.S. Open to see her play. She came up short, unfortunately, to a younger opponent. For all the time, still undefeated.

We know that. But they asked if this was it and if she would think about coming back. And she said, you never know, but it looks like this is it that she's done. Yeah. What I'm playing. So salute to Serena Williams on an incredible career. Go. Definitely the goat

Again, it's hard to talk about the greatest athlete ever And not have her in that conversation No one has ever dominated in their sport The way she has Right And elevated the sport the way she has On a global scale

So shout out to Serena Williams Levion Bell knocked the shit out of Adrian Peterson The other night Nick Young got knocked out as well Nick love you, my guy But don't ever do that again Triller is taking any fight To try to pay back the debt

To Swizz and Tim Yeah, just I don't know how But how many more of these do we need to sit through? I don't know. Some of them are really entertaining. Like I would have loved to see Ray J and Jay Bug instead of go outside and to Triller. Oh, and back would be the referee.

Ray J. Listen, this is like Tyson fighting if Ray J's fighting. I'm sitting around the TV. I'm watching that one. Giants won their first game, first week one game in six, seven years. Yes, first since 2016. The first one since 2016,

which means they're going to go and lose out the rest of it. For games. They're going to go one in 15, one in 16, I guess, throughout the year. But listen, this is a good, listen. Ojo Sott, good start for Giants fans. You want to start the season with a win. You got your win. Everybody's healthy.

I like how they're coaching, though. Going for two at the end. Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. Sequin Barkley, if he stays healthy, which I hope he does, he's a different type of NFL player when he's healthy. Absolutely. You guys want to go to a game? I'm down.

Yeah, let's go to a Giants game. Let's go see the Giants. We can go to the game. Speaking of trailer fights, who's the guy that they ban from the internet that everyone hates because he's a misogynistic person? Andrew Tate. Why doesn't one of the Logan guys fight him?

He's a professional fighter. That's what I'm, well, the Logan's say they are now. Well, he's a kickboxer. He's not a boxer. Okay. Well, but he's become such a villain on the internet and all those fights are based off, like, internet following.

That would, they would make a shit. Isn't Logan, isn't, oh, Logan, ready to fight? like a real like No he has a new fight No he has a new fight coming up with somebody that's like I think like a And first of all the Logan Paul I keep saying the Logan brothers

The Paul brothers Which one fought Mayweather? Logan or Jake Logan fought Mayweather the businessman Not Mayweather the boxer So there's a difference there No Jake Paul's fighting Anderson Silva

Anderson Silver Jake Paul is great to fight Anderson Silver Now Anderson Silver UFC legend this is of course just boxing his hands so it's a little different for him he can't really wrestle and grapple

and kick and things like that this might be Jake Paul's knocked out when he gets his bell rung and possibly hurt okay October 29 yeah

which listen Jake Paul and Logan Paul I think are both great fighters when things are not as staged when they fight real fighters I'm curious to see what happens this Anderson Silva Jake Paul fight though man Oh can we have a fight party

Their first face off is happening It just happened today Today Yeah Anderson Silver is a fucking legend He's had some classic UFC fights He can take a lot of pain Obviously He can also dish out a lot of pain

Jake Paul who I told people a while ago I said bro Y'all can say he's not a real fight Oh you want but This guy's somebody that's in the gym. He knows how to throw his hands. He has footwear. He knows how to move his feet. He has power in his hands. So, I mean, you know, he's not a professional, I guess. If you don't want to call him a professional boxer, but...

Jake Paul can fight, bro. He can fight. He can definitely fight. Anderson Silva is a legend. He's not a fan of Edden, but he can fight. Yeah. Well, thanks. That wasn't Jake. That was Logan. That was Logan. That was Logan. Yeah, that was Logan. Hey, no. Don't turn down. Edding like that next time. But they're supportive brothers. O'Oria kick your ass. No. Both of them with my ass.

Speaking of Roryk, you can ask, this Saturday, he's fighting Triple G. No, I'm not. Is that Canelo? Yeah. Again? Yeah. Then they fight already, right? Yeah.

Trilogy. This is the third one. I love Canelo. I love Triple G. I love you, Canelo. Appreciate him, man. Viva la Mexico. But I don't know, man.

I've got to go with Triple G in this one. I've gone with Triple G both times. Yeah. And I fuck with Canello too, but Triple G is. Oh, no, I love Canelo. He just hits a little too hard. Triple G is, I think I'm going with Triple G in this fight. I think Triple G might actually knock him out this fight.

I feel bad admitting this especially on a podcast because Mike Tyson had said that Hulu stole his life rights. Wait, did you see the Tyson that they had, though? Did you see the guy? Well, I watched the first few episodes. You supported it? Hey, Mike. I feel bad admitting it.

Kick his ass. I already pay for Hulu. After Logan Paul kicks his ass. But I was already going to pay for Hulu to begin with, so. It's not like I paid for it. Yeah, it's in the bundle. I get it. Like, it was going to happen regardless.

Yeah, I get it. Yeah, it's like voting Republican in New York. Why? Like, it's going to go Democrat. Yeah. So. That's why I didn't vote for Trump. That's a whole other story.

Jesus. Oh, my God. The only reason I didn't show up on the polls that day. We didn't have a fighting chance, right? So we storm the Capitol. The mic show is, it takes a while to get into the person that plays Mike. Yeah. But a few hours.

episodes in, I started to allow him to be Mike in my head. It was the sound journey. It was the sound journey to Tyson. He just doesn't look like Mike. He does too much of the mannerisms. He's not the same complexion, too. Like, it just, I don't know. What's worse?

But it's a very good series. Like, it's very well put together. It's very well written. It's great. What's worse? When Flex played Michael Jackson and that horrible rendition of the Jackson story or this Mike Tyson? I think I'm going to go with the first one. Flex?

that was terrible. I still can't believe he did that. Sometimes I think it's a joke. Like when they pop up, like all I've ever seen it is it being memed. Like, I never got a chance to actually. That's a real film. No, that shit was terrible. The guy.

The Aaliyah life story was pretty bad too. Yeah. And it wasn't so much Shorty that played Alia. Just the entire movie itself was just bad. The actor playing Mike is also, remember Birdbox? Remember that whole crazy? No, he's a great actor. He's the guy in Birdbox.

It's just. difficult to play Mike without coming across weird. Yeah, he's also in Moonlight. Yeah, he plays a lot. I'm like, don't just give him Birdbox. He was in Moonlight too. Oscar winning. Like, don't do that.

I feel you. But yeah, I mean, don't check out Mike because they stole his life rights. I'm just saying I happen to by accidentally sit on the remote and hit play. Now, Mike's going to look at your ass. It's cool. That does that to our legend, Mike Tyson.

When we do Hotbox again, I will not be admitting this. And please don't throw me under the bus. Oh, no, for sure. start talking to Mike. I have to. I have to do it. Are you kidding me? And I'm going to show him the clip.

But then I'm going to say like, no, I watched it so I could, you know, properly boycott it. Okay. So I know what was in there and be like, yo, this is bullshit. This is why you should boycott this. Yeah, yeah. I get it. I understand.

That doesn't help their range. Do your due diligence. For sure. So, yeah, Jake Paul, Anderson Silva, October 29th. We should watch that as a family. I think that's going to be a good fight. I'm down. We'll put it on company card.

Because Anderson Silver's kind. He's up there in age, so he's not the same. So he's not the same Anderson Silver, but still, you know. It's a little different than that. That octagon. Oh, man, I think he's going to hit Jake Paul so fucking hard. I'll make vegan wings. Nobody wants vegan wings.

No. You don't like vegan wings? Fuck no. Don't give me no vegan wings. Oh, season the fuck out some cauliflower. Oh, fuck that shit. I do. Lett us no dressing.

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That sounds like a lot. I've got to find a vegan deep dish piece of vegan deep dish. DC I'm not worried about because there's a big vegan community in D.C. A lot of Democrats in D.C. Yeah. There's a lot of us down there. Do you think you get a vegan Italian sausage in Chicago? I think that's blasphemous to even look for vegan Italian sausage.

Is Mombos sauce vegan in D.C? Maybe. Okay. Maybe. I got to see what's in Mamba. You never even got to the bottom of that. It's Mamba. Yeah.

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