New Rory & MAL - Episode 105 | Dahmer Is Top 5 Dead or Alive

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

This week this guys talk about the new Jeffrey Dahmer Netflix series sweeping the nation, recapping the DC live show, Demaris meeting the helicopter assembly-man of her dreams, having a baby on stage, Ice Spice at Rolling Loud, Off-set performing "Bad & Bougie" by himself in the rain, the top 5 craziest serial killers, Matt Barnes not holding up on his exclusive on Ime Udoka, Aaron Judge being the future MVP, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In as in... I know... You get to the underground. I understand that David Stern took your NBA team and brought it to New Orleans. No, they're back. There's still Bobcats and Charlotte? No, they're the Charlotte Hornets now.

So the bees are back? The Hornets. All right, so what happened to the Bobcats? The Bobcats are no more. They went to New Orleans. No. There's no more Bobcats in NBA. So who has the guy from Duke that can dunk that's overweight?

That's the Pelicans. Okay. So it's Bobcats, Pelicans, and Hornets. There's no Bobcats in NBA anymore. If I say that one more time. Get your tickets at new Roryin Mall.com. In as an... No.

...it's inside you. Petty bullshit shouldn't excite you on your birthday. It's your fucking birthday. Oh, yes, yes. Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. I am all. I'm Rory. Don't just skip over your theme song for the day that we introed with.

It's your Ratchet. Happy birthday. It is my ratchet happy birthday. It's your motherfucking birthday. It's my motherfucking birthday. Did anyone call you Reese's PCs like Drake did in that song? No. Thankfully, Rory, nobody called me Reese's Pieces.

No one said happy Earth Day, my Reese's PCs? No. They said Happy Earth Day, but not Reese's. Nobody has ever called me Reese's PCs. I don't know. No. Thankfully. May have a peanut butter inside?

That just sounds crazy. It's your motherfucking birthday. No, it is my motherfucking birthday. Thank you, Edd for that song, for that rendition. You're welcome. birthday. Are you 70? Are you 80? Are you no? Are you American? Where's your green card? Are you legal? Are you legal? Do you pay taxes? Where do you live? Are you head of household? Head of household. Head of household. That's funny. Yeah, it's my birthday. Thanks, guys. That's birthday, man.

Appreciate that. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. How come, speaking of birthdays, Zandrake, you didn't just peek your head into the studio that one night and was like, maybe put this one in the recycling bin. Oh, for that record? Yeah. Or you were waiting for your birthday to come so you could see if it popped off. Yeah, we never, we never, was Drake trying to redo the birthday anthem with that one? I think that was the one time Drake really started to feel himself and think I can literally do anything and they'll like it. Okay.

All right. And that will become the new birthday anthem. And I just think it maybe didn't. I've seen, I've seen them play that. Yeah, we'll go that route. I've seen them play that a couple times in the club, though, for some girls. when it was their birthday. You know, they bring a...

What type of girl was it? There was some white girls. You know, the white girls love that shit. Yeah. We're so ratchet. We're so ratchet. It's Aubrey! It's your birthday, bitch.

Let's get Ratchet. Look at Damaris. I'm upset. You had a long day? Why are you looking like that? I'm okay. Usually like when it's your friend's birthday. She didn't get her weed this weekend.

She ain't smoked. You know what sucks about your birthday? being towards the end of the month, you can't do the celebrate all-month thing. You only have like five days, four days to celebrate. My birthday could have been the first of September and I would not celebrate it all month. Okay. So you, but you could have been like September Virgo season starting today. We're celebrating, bitch.

No. Okay. I think that's, let the ladies do that. If I see a guy having more than like one birthday, dinner or a party, it's like, bro, you're weird. They're out there, though. No, there's a lot of them. We have a name for them that we can't use anymore. And by the way,

It's the . They're . Please edit that. No, but I don't mind if there's, there's, and look at us trying to tell men how to celebrate their birthday. That's a little weird too. I don't mind if a man has like a lot of female friends

or has like a girlfriend that's really into birthdays because we know women make our birthdays about them. Yeah. If you get a whole itinerary and you just got to show up, I get it. It's the men that plan themselves. Like they hit Peach for the graphic. You're like, all right, this is the Monday itineraries, Tuesday through Sunday.

That's a little weird. I mean, that's a celebrate. You know, man, we can't. We're not allowed to have too many celebrations. We're not allowed to be too happy. No, of course. Not allowed to have too much fun. Everything gets stepped on by women.

Like, we just can't. But, man, I think you should have a birthday dinner where you invite everyone and you pay for it. Yeah. Like a man would do. Like a real man. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happens. You have your own birthday dinner.

You have to plan everything and pick up the check at the end of the night. Is the reason you didn't do it because Say-Less was so busy with Rolling Loud or? It was slammed. Couldn't, couldn't get a res. It was slammed. When I'm a reservation, you couldn't get a res. Couldn't get a private room. All the rappers in the town, they're eating chicken satis with peanut sauce all weekend. Listen. Yeah. There's a satay shortage in New York City right now. Where were you? Satee shortage. During the satay shortage of 2022. It was the blackout and then it was the Satee shortage of Rolling Loud 2022. Yeah. That's exactly what it was. But yeah, another year,

grateful, blessed, happy, and healthy, man, that's all. That's all that matters. What woman tried to make their birthday, your birthday about them? Nobody so far. Well, I share a birthday with my twin sister, so that's probably the only woman that would.

That's weird how that would work out. But even she's not like that, though. Like, she doesn't try to just make it about her. Like, she includes me. Oh, now I have questions. Growing up as a twin, like, and I could see if you guys are both boys or both girls, it would probably be easier.

How do you do the boy girl twin birthday thing when you're younger. Because, like, you know, parents sometimes try to, like, theme a birthday. It was easier when we were younger. Like, as we got older, it's a little different because, like, we're just, we lived, like, two totally different type of lifestyles. Yeah. So, like, as we've gotten older, it's more difficult to celebrate together.

But we try to do something like a dinner or something together. But then she just does shit with her crew and I don't do shit. I really never celebrate my birthday. I haven't celebrated, like, I haven't had a real birthday party in years. I could see you as a young lad trying to do, like, a new edition. themed birthday. New edition? Like the group? Yeah. Nah, nah. Everyone dresses as a new edition. No, no, no, no. I would never do that. I used to have fun at like, like, uh, like roller skating parties. That was my shit as a kid. I was a lot of shit like that. But then as you get old,

it's just birthday dinners. Like, how many dinners are you going to have? We go out to eat every day, almost every other night during the week, so. Excuse the fuck out of us. I, no, not me. I'm just saying I go to the grocery store and cook. No, no, I'm saying adults. You eat out, we eat out a lot. Yeah. What kind of flavor kick to you, like? type of flavor cake. Vegan. Vegan flavor. Is that a flavor?

Yeah. I like the regular yellow cake with like chocolate frosting. Like non-vegan, you mean? No, they have vegan yellow cake. Yeah, absolutely. It's not hard to make a vegan cake. It's pretty easy these days.

Did anyone's mother ever hide their birthday cake in the microwave or the oven during the birthday party at home? Yes. Absolutely. Okay. That was a spot. Yeah, that was a spot.

What age did you guys figure that one out? because I was always wondering what kind of cake my mom got. My parents would keep it in the garage after that. Keeping the cake in the garage is sick as fuck. Exhaust and carbon monoxide flavored confetti cake. My birthday's in November, so it would be cool enough in the garage to keep the cake. It wasn't like August. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Got you. Got you. That makes sense. They were, like, put on a shelf. I'm like, it's clearly a cake. It's a box next to a bunch of shoes. But then, like, you know, I love ice cream cake. Oh, yeah.

So it's hard to hide that. Like, you got to put that in the freezer. Is it like? I was always the confetti cake was always my go-to. Okay. I like confetti cake. But other than that, I'm not a big sugary person. Yeah.

Well, D.C., you could have celebrated. Could have went to a stadium, could have went to the strip club. Well, Stamars had them. There's no more stadium. Stadium. Stadium is over with in D.C. Rest of peace. Rest of peace of stadium.

But yeah, yeah, we had a show in D.C. Great crowd. They showed a lot of love. But D.C. always shows a lot of love. Always. We had a little minor hiccup in the show, but it still went down pretty well. I'll say this in a good way.

The entire show was off the rails from the moment we went on stage. And it made perfect sense. Because after that, it seemed like everything else after that made sense. Like we had a six-week-old baby. Shout out the baby Zaire, who was in attendance. He came on stage with his mom. It is fucked up. We don't remember his mom.

Do we remember his mom's name? I don't know. Baby Zaya stole his show. I don't think she even told us her name just for like, no, she did, but legal reasons. No, because I asked, I said, what are you doing? I said, what is Baby Zaire doing? The D.C. Y.F. or whatever that shit is called. Couldn't come.

I said, what is Baby Zaire doing here? She said, oh, it said all ages. I'm like, I don't think that's what they meant, but. In her defense, though, all ages. All ages. We can't discriminate. So shout out to Baby Zaya, six weeks old for making his first appearance at, I hope, was his first live show. We don't know. Baby Zaya might have been on a tour this weekend. They're rolling loud. Yeah, he might have been at Ruling loud.

I was just so upset that we didn't have, like, a tub of water or something, where we could baptize young Baby Zaire, and you and I could be the Godfathers. Oh, my God. God. Like, we really should have done some type of christening. Yeah. At that show. Set him up early?

Yeah. At least maybe make the middle names. New Rory Moll, one word. No, we call him Ram. Rory Moll. A little baby Ram. Zaire Ram. Yeah, Zaire Ram.

He is definitely on the no-fly list. Shout out to baby Zaire. Six weeks old. Came out to see our live show in D.C. Shout out to all the other people that came on stage. It was a great night, though. Well, we're so sick about the D.C. crowd was that I just kept looking back and you did as well throughout the show and going,

you know there's a six-week-year-old baby being swaddled on this couch. DC didn't bat an eyelash. Nothing about that was weird to them. Didn't confuse them at all. We were more confused about it than the audience was. But like I said, everything after the minor hiccup, the technical hiccup that we had, everything after that made complete sense. The night was perfect.

In the road to ruining relationships, we thought the Jack Harlow thing. might be the peak. We thought maybe we'll peak too early. We had a Jack Harlow sighting on our first show. But we expanded. We did. We got range. We did. We destroyed siblings. Sisters. Sisters came on the stage to see how much they knew or didn't know about each other. And one of the sisters immediately said, I asked because one of the sisters was pregnant. Yes. So you asked, how do you feel about the child's father? Yes. And the sister responded with, I feel like he could do better. Now, when you first hear that, I thought she just slipped up and meant to say, I think she could do better. Right.

But then she doubled down on it. Which is what she meant, that she can do better or he could do better, meaning like he could be a better person. As a baby father. But here's the thing. We took it and ran with it like, no way we were going to let. He should have had a better baby mother. That's the way we ran with it. And she ran with it that way as well.

Absolutely. Then it moved on to sleeping with each other's boyfriends. One of them put no question mark, which I saw the opportunity. to say no? Instead of no, why would you ask that? I would never do that. Do you think that sisters, like, do they ever sleep with the same guy? Oh, a thousand percent.

I've done that. I've done it. You slept with sisters? Yes. Older one first. I went younger one first. The younger one was a year below me. The older one was four years older than I was.

Yeah, I definitely slept with sisters before. Not proud of it. Not proud of it at all. Yeah, that was some scumbag shit. That's scumbag shit. It's okay. Like, it's okay. Like, when you get older as a man, it's okay to look back and realize like,

damn, that was some scumbag shit. Now, you could always get away with it under the umbrella of I was young. I was out there wilding. But when you look back at it, it's like, that was some scumbag shit. I have mixed feelings because I was 18 with the little sister and then 19 with the older sister.

The older sister was fully aware of what it was. So it almost felt like I was being used as the spite fuck. Okay. So I do feel nasty about it. I'm not proud of it, but it wasn't like I went out and did the weirdo shit,

like targeted two-sifference. sisters. I was targeted. The spite fuck always seems like some of the best sex, though. It does because there is some anger. Because that's like real fucking. That's like you're fucking at that point. But spite fucking never like resolves whatever your feels being spited. No, no.

It definitely doesn't. Well, that's like the only time I really feel used is when a girl does it to get back at someone. Like afterwards, you're like shit. What age did you stop doing that though? Allow. I'm sorry, like allowing a woman. It's been, yeah.

It's been a long time because that's a nasty feeling. And it's like, you're not going to use me for this. Go work it out. As you get older, a certain shit you just can't put yourself in. Like you can't put yourself in certain situations. You got to stay away from certain, you know, just bullshit because you know what's coming after that. And as you get older, you don't have the headspace to deal with just unnecessary drama, unnecessary bullshit. I saw Drake post, he posted something on his story.

Because he always stays out of unnecessary drama. Yeah, he does. He tries, right? He posted something that was interesting It's something to the effect of I will never understand a man that Causes Problems

Creates unnecessary enemies I saw that's Yeah creates unnecessary enemies Like and that's like That's real though Like why would you go out of your way to create An enemy when you don't have to Some people

Some people read like the art of war book And things of that nature Or a What's the 48 Laws of Power Where it's like if you don't have enemies Go make some Yeah no that's stupid If you don't have enemies, go make some.

And I hate, oh, what's the other one that they love to say that stupid? No new friends. Oh, that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Like, I've made new friends like late on in my life that are like great, way better than my old friends. Way better than my day ones. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like the new friends are like, oh, we should have, I wish we grew up together. And look at the logic of like once you have a developed mind, you shouldn't go seek new friends.

When you didn't have a developed mind, that's when you were selecting the people you need to be around. Exactly. It's fucking crazy. So a lot of things that we just take little quotes and try to apply to our daily lives. It's like, we need to get rid of this. What was so ironic about that song was that Callet and Drake were new friends? No, all of these dudes in the industry are new friends. I just met a summer ago and it's like, yo, that's the bro. That's the video where Caled is drinking a four loco on the balcony in Miami.

Oh, living life. That's one of the nastiest. Living life. I respect it. Living my life. You were sipping a full local around that time. Before they were recalled. Absolutely.

You still have the cans? Did you save the cans? memorabilia? Who has a four local? At that point I had to turn them in for loose change. No. That's where you was at in life? After I drank the recall

when I became a crackhead. Oh my God. Four local. Wow, what a time. What a time. How these kids are going from fentanyl to heroin is how we went from fucking four locals to crack. That was the next step.

It's just like, think of all the shit we survived and been through this far. Yeah. It was some sick shit that we went through, man. Early 2000s, mid-2000. It was some sick shit going on out here, man. Four locals. Lugs, the Ed Hardy era.

You had a pair of Lugs before? No, never had a pair. And I'm proud to say, I've admitted all my nasty faults when I was young. I never owned a single pair of Ed Hardy. And it wasn't because I couldn't afford it. It's because if I could have, I still wouldn't have bought that shit. Yawa Wylan. It looked nasty at the time.

I understand that Juel Santana and Jim Jones made it look cool for a second. But take your Van Dutch trucker hat off and your Ed Hardy shirt. I wasn't mad at the Von Dutch trucker hat. I wasn't mad at that. Would you flip it upside down? I would. I would. would. But I wasn't mad at the same style of trucker up. Yeah, but I'm not mad at trucker hats.

It's just, I don't know. The Von Dutch shit was simple. It wasn't much going on. It was just Vaughn Dutch in different colors. Like, I think it's just when certain people get a hold of things. Well, that's anything. We all love the young jock. It's going down dance till Tom Cruise did it, standing on a couch. Then it was like, well, I think we should move past this one. And once, once Paris Hill. Well, when he did it in Tropical Thunder, that was funny. Did he do it in Tropical Thunder? Yeah. They did a, is at the end of the credits. Oh yeah, that's right.

That's right. Yeah. Yeah, that was okay. That was great. Post-science. Clash. But yeah, once Paris Hilton and the rest of those, that crew got a hold of the van der. Yeah, I wasn't an Ed Hardy Christian Auditier guy.

I didn't like those garments, those t-shirts, those jeans. I wasn't a big fan. What was it like, oh, seven or eight? And it was mixed in with the Ed Hardy shit when, like, everyone in hip-hop tried to be dressed like rockers. And I'm saying even pre-Wain doing it. Like, it was Jewel's, that was just a nasty, with the chain, wallets.

Yeah. It was like Hot Topic meets Dr. J's. I didn't like it. Yeah. It was a little weird for hip hop. It was a little weird. We tried it. We tried to get out of the typical hip hop look, but that's not our culture.

I will say, I think that was the nastiest era in hip hop. Like, including the baggy clothes, the transition for us to get into slim clothes was the nastiest point. And I see the baggy shit trying to come back. Let me just say, I'm never going too baggy. I've said before. I've seen the bell bottom jeans are a thing now and guys are stepping on the back of their pants again.

That's just uncomfortable. I'll go maybe bigger on the T-shirt just because of, you know, weight, fluctuating because I'm old. Yeah. But my pants are going to stay Taylor for the rest of my life. You guys got me into Taylor pants. I'm never, I'm never leaving them. And it's comfortable.

They're staying there. Yeah. We got on a tangent. Demaris speed dated at our live show. Demaris did speed date at our live show. She came out on stage. She dropped it like it was hot. She had some interesting pants on.

What was those pants? Demaris, they had like ropes. She laced them up. They worked by Samaria Leah. They're just, um. denim that's been redesigned. She cuts it out. Oh, okay.

Reassembled denim? Yeah. Okay. You came on stage. You dropped it, rolled it, did a speed date. What type of rope was that? And what type of knot did you put in that? Was that a double knot?

Was that a bowling? They weren't. Square knot? Which one was that? They weren't. It was a sustainable rope. She has. Who tied you up?

Like, in pre? Okay. Self-tied. We kind of vetted a guy. We bought a guy on stage. We didn't vet him. We didn't vet him at all. I mean, we kind of did.

I said, yo, what's you? What's your name? Where are you from? I believe you said the guy that looks like he just got out. Yeah, because like he got up, he got up, he stood up. And I was like, oh, okay, I know jail yard muscle when I see it. Like, it's all, you know, no legs. So I was okay. So we asked him a couple questions.

He said he was a helicopter engineer. Yes. Like he fixes helicopters. He works on helicopters. So he said, okay, that's a pretty honest job. And then he said he was not being honest. No, I didn't say he was a job is honest. I said it was an honest job.

Yeah, for sure. And then he said he was a former Marine, I think. he was in the Marine Corps. So I said, okay, he's a guy that can know some things or two. Like Liam Neeson. Is that his name? Liam Neeson? Yes.

I don't know if he was in the armed forces, but he does seem to be the worst parent in movie history. But at least this guy has a set of skills that if he and DeMaris were on a date, he could defend himself. And off him being in the armed forces, guest off Rip, Dodge Charger. He said yes. So we were okay at that point. No, he did he say yes?

Yes. I thought he. No, I thought he said no. No, he said yes. He said yes. There's no way. No, in Chicago, we had another dude from the Army and I had asked if he had a Dodge Charger. He said no.

In D.C., he had a Dodge Charger. Oh, shit. I thought he said, I thought he laughed and was like, no, I don't have a charger. No, he had a charger. That's funny as fuck. Yeah, he had the two-seater for Damaris. Okay, so they went on the speed date. Whisk her away, away from Howard Theater.

Yeah, and Damaris quickly, you know, if people don't know baby Dee, they can become, you know, a little uncomfortable because she's going to come right at you. Yeah, he had confidence, so she sat down. He had confidence. He was, you know what I mean? But then she started shooting at him and it's like, oh, shit, I didn't think it was going be like this. I think you started with the salary question, right?

I did not ask him how much he made. Nah, she didn't. I asked him what he did? I told, I said, what do you do? He said, oh, no, remember you guys asked him, oh, if you put planes together, then what name a part of a plane we don't know about. And he couldn't name anything because he doesn't fucking put planes together. He's like the propeller.

No, I think he said the propeller. No, I'm saying, yo, the wheels. He's going to have to get the fuck. I said, if you say propeller, get out of here. But he was a cool dude. So Damaris crushed his hopes in his dreams. Well, my favorite part of the entire evening might have been when Damaris asked, how long do you last?

And he said, yo, I'd be fucking. Because you never have a time. To me, that was so funny. You may have not have been funny to everyone else. I thought that was the funniest thing in the world.

Yeah, because you never have, like, men, we're never going to put a time on a timestamp on our fucking. No, that's why I can't even put music on anymore or specific Netflix shows because it'll show how long it was. Yeah. Like, damn.

in streaming era it's only like two minute songs. But you only made it through two songs on this playlist. Oh man. So yeah, De Maris went on a speed date. I went on a speed date and then she mistake my name for Rory. She called me Rory. Well, they're similar names. That was the end of her date.

Shout out of the Suzette. Yeah, Suzette was out of here. We cooked her, get her right upon out of here. What was there something wrong with that? Somebody calling me somebody I'm not. Yeah. Oh, okay. That's not me, ma'am.

I don't know where your mind is. It's clearly not on this day. People make mistakes. I don't know. No, yeah, no. Have a good night. She was new to the show. Yeah, yeah.

You thought your name. No, no, no, have a good night, though. She could have a good night. We loved her. Thank you for coming on the stage. And then you went on a speed date. Didn't last very long. And you went on a speed date with a therapist.

Yes. And you were doing the therapy. That's the word. I think I beat her in the therapy. Yeah, yeah. You did. You absolutely. I want to see her degree with the helicopter pilot's certification.

Yeah. We need, we need. There's a lot of people lying about their careers on that stage. Because you know what it is. She was a therapist, though, because my man, Della did text me and said, Hey, heard you met the therapist. I was like... Wait, Della knows her?

Yes. That's... Yeah, small world. Very small. So I guess she is indeed a therapist. I'm not sure what kind, but a dating one, probably not. But either way, it was a good night. It was a great night.

D.C. showed a lot of love. We appreciate everybody that came out. My god, Jinjo. What's his name? Ginjo. Gingo. My bad, bro. Ginjo.

He graduated college, so salute. to him. Congrats on graduating college. And he put a good fit together so he didn't have to walk home barefooted. Yes. Shout out to Tequila Talk that opened up for us. Shout out to Tequila Talk. Great job.

They were good. But no, it's overall great show. We have Charlotte next this Sunday. Charlotte, North Carolina at the Underground, October 2nd. First time we've ever done Charlotte, North Carolina, who I feel like has been asking since, I don't know, 2014. I'm looking forward. I'm looking forward to Charlotte.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to North Carolina. So I'm excited for that. But we did all drive home together, and they sparked a bit of debate because this, I think, outside of the New York and L.A. shows that we did, this was the first time Demeris was on the road with us. And she was fully part of the show. It appeared that everyone there knew who she was. She was basking in the glory of all the ticketed patrons that were there. The ticketed patrons. Ticketed.

And Mall had brought up some bullshit. and said that Demaris and I like attention and he does not, which to me was the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. Okay. I'd like to hear your point of view because you also say anytime we go out, I'm the awkward, quiet guy in the corner that is socially awkward and doesn't know what to do. Well, that came from, I was saying that because I think that seeking attention and liking attention are different. That's where the conversation started.

Because I kind of equate those two things. Yeah, no, I don't think it's the same. I don't think you look for attention, but I think that if you get attention, you're not mad at it. You know, shy away from it. So DeMaris had got on stage, but, you know, a lot of the people that come on stage, they're like nervous. They claim up. They kind of like, don't, you know, want to be themselves. Damaris came out, gave a little two-step, dropped it.

I said, oh, shit, okay. Well, I mean, she's a showman. Right. Show-girl. So we were talking about liking attention and, show they. Seeking attention and wanting attention. and that turned into a whole conversation in the car. We were talking about the night you had a single release party.

We walked in. Rory was like, I'm not going on stage. I'm not talking to nobody. Because I didn't want to. I know, I get it. You didn't seek it, right? But when it happened, it was like, you was looking like, oh, Frankie Blue Eyes up there at the fucking Blue Note. Oh, Frankie Blue Eyes.

First of all, I have green eyes. Well, Frankie Green Eyes at the Blue Note, he was up there like, well, I'll tell you a thing about this second number we're about to play. The first mate. just got it mixed. Yeah. So I'm like, I thought Rory didn't want to talk. I thought he didn't want to address nobody. But then once it happened, it's like, boom, it's on.

Why do something if you don't put 100% in more? No, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. But first of all, you can be good at something and not like it. Well, all right. I like doing our shows. I guess that would be considered attention because we have a whole crowd looking at us.

I like doing that, but not for the reason that I like attention. Okay. Because to me, if you like something, you go. seek it. Not necessarily, though. Because when we were doing, when we had this single release shit, like Ben or everyone was saying, hey, you need to go up there and talk. I was like, I don't want you.

I'd rather. I'd rather people just kick it and hang out. I didn't want the attention of me standing there. But if we're going to do it, I'm not going to do it half ass and I'm going to try to make it fun because it'll be even worse if I'm sitting there. Like, um, hit play. Like, at least I want to try to make it not weird. I didn't like that the entire time I was talking on the microphone.

and I kind of wanted to just go sit back in my seat and enjoy the music. But you knew what you were doing. And there's what mall's getting at. Of course. But that's being good at showmanship. That's not meaning that you like what's happening. And you were also in a room full of your family and friends. You weren't in front of a bunch of strangers.

And that's why I didn't want to do it because why am I talking to people that I talk to on a daily basis? Like, they know this. Yeah, but it was just like once you, once you're up there, like I get it like you just like I'm on stage I got to talk I don't want to stand up here and look awkward

Yeah My thing with DeMaris was because DeMaris always tells us Why she Deactivates her IG account Because she doesn't like attention But then I was like I didn't expect her to come on stage

And drop it Yeah Like if somebody tell me they don't like attention I'm not gonna expect that I'm like oh shit okay Like I love it I'm not mad at it Because it's like okay

It's part of it Give everybody You know I'm saying They know Demaris They know her voice They know her face They're like okay cool That's DeMaris

and she'd give him a little drop. I'm with it, but I wasn't expecting that. But DeMaris also fully understands that we are doing a show, and she may not like to go out there and drop it, but knows it'll get a reaction, no, it'll be part of the show, no, it'll add to it. I don't know if she was sitting backstage, like, oh, I just can't wait to get out there

and drop my ass on that stage. It kind of reminded me, like, when Ron Burgundy, when Ron Burgundy went out to dinner, and they asked him if he could play his flute, and he was like, no, I can't. And then he just takes out the flute. He gets on stage and just rips it. Yeah, and like, granted, if we would have been to Demaris, like, hey, go out there and drop it, and then she used her tie pants as breakaway pants.

Oh, it had shorts. And it was ready to go. That said twerk on the back and they're like, all right, Demaris may be seeking attention right now. She sent some graphics to Peach. That's a little different. Yeah. But what I thought was so crazy with everything you said about us, you claim that you don't like attention, but we do. Okay.

Because I think you're on the same scale as us in that regard. I think if put in a position, you will deliver. on whatever needs to happen. I don't know if that necessarily means you like what's happening. Well, yeah, I don't. And can I have mixed feelings on attention? Absolutely. I like the attention because what it represents.

Like if I'm out and someone says, hey, love the podcast and I'm in the middle of something. Right. I may not like it, but I like, that means that I'm doing something okay. Right. So I'll always acknowledge and be happy about that. I'm not, same.

Like, I'm very grateful for that type of stuff. but core of who I am may get uncomfortable when people do that just because I don't like when people speak to me. Come up to you in the public. Yeah, I get it. I'm the same way. Like, I don't like attention. But again, we have a show.

We perform. We have people that subscribe to what we do. And then when we happen to see them, you know, just out and about. Yeah, I know. At the end of the day, I'm not, I'm nobody. So please, that means we're doing great. If you want to come up and say what's up, I encourage it. All love.

I don't know if that means you like it per se. Okay. That's all. All right. I agree. I'm with you on that. I can get really political and be like, oh, I only like attention for the good things about me. That's some sick shit. That's some sick shit. I hate attention when it's bad shit. But that spun that. So that conversation spun us into a Carter 3. Is it a classic album debate? I don't know how that happened.

So yeah, so that spun us into a whole debate on the Carter 3 classic. We started going through that whole playlist, played the Carter 3 album and started listening to to how some songs didn't age as well as we thought they did. Yeah, which made me think not even so much to Wayne, because we have had that Carter 3 debate. And it was fun to go through that in a car ride and traffic and shit with different age groups and different walks of life and how they heard that album.

But it had me thinking, and I'm going to sound like the old man, get off my grass guy right now, if the car to 3 has shit on here that I feel like, damn, it just didn't age well. And this is an incredible time. these new kids with this music, bruscious got five years so it doesn't sound like less than that. Like it's crazy how bad that stuff is going to age.

Way less than five years. A lot of this shit has five months. Like the fact that we were debating Wayne comfortable as how it aged, I'm like, oh, these kids are fucked. It's like the music that they're listening to now, none of that is going to age well. And their audience is going to get older and be like, wow. What did we agree?

We said Dr. Carter phone home. Lala And I think I think those were the only ones Those were the three That we said were the worst

Well, Mall hates Lollipop, but it's cool. We can move on. We've done the part of the day. I don't hate it. I just don't like the way it aged

and rest in peace Static Major, The Legend. But I just don't like the way it aged. I don't, because I don't like to say La La Lollipop.

Did you like to say it in 06? I love to say it in 06. I couldn't wait to say it in 06. Were you a pussy monster in 06? I was not a pussy monster in 06. I was not a pussy monster. Like when that came on, we started talking, we was like, yo, do you want to hit,

do you want to rap, like, rapist lyrics about them, like, being a pussy monster eating pussy and all that? You want me to be the biggest rap nerd ever of how I can make a case, how that is a classic. Okay. And how that changed. And it's so funny that we would debate pussy monster. Yes. The idea of eating pussy was so against hip hop at the time. I'd never eat pussy.

Every bar was like, yo, I just get another bitch to eat a pussy. Wayne changed hip hop in accepting and it being cool to eat pussy and being good at it.

Now it's all every rapper talks about. It's cool to be a munch. He was Dwayne the Munch Carter way before that song ever came out. Is it cool to be a munch though? Well, to the kids. And first of all,

Wayne never said he was eating and booed I feel like that's still her shitting on dudes, but I don't know. They're trying to, but I don't think guys care. I'm just saying, You can say the song Pussy Monster, isn't it, and I might agree with you, I'm not throwing that on at my age right now. Never in the car.

That's a yeah. But I will say that did change the narrative of pussy eating for hip-hop history. I think a good way to kind of like gauge this from the artist. Wayne walked so what's Munch Girl, so Ice Spice could run. Definitely. At Rolling Loud. I think that the good way to kind of like gauge these songs if they age well is like we have to wait and see these artists when they perform. their set and see what songs they perform from these like albums.

Yeah. And that's always interesting when you talk to artists of the records that you think you would put on their set list and they've been doing this for so long. They're like, bro, I love that song too. I figured it would be that. I've performed that mad times. It's a dud. Yeah, it didn't come across well.

But the car ride was dope back to New York. We went through the whole car to three album. I believe we listened to something else. We did take care. We did take care. We did take care. We can say that for Patreon. when we break down to take care argument.

But we did miss Rolling Loud because of it. We didn't get to see Ice Spice and her debut of Munchin and Queens. I saw Fabio Forum, brought her out. I believe it was Fabio, yeah. Fabio Forum brought her out, and the clip of her performance kind of went viral, and the fans were not too pleased or were not blown away by her performance. They didn't like it, I guess. But she's like, see, and that's the thing, Rory back to our conversation of how

people get on so fast or one record takes off and they're on stage at Rolling Loud in front of however many thousands of people she's not Ice Spice is not

that type of an artist yet to throw in front of that type of a crowd for sure and obviously records blow up way quicker than they used to so artists don't The record blows up quicker

than the talent does Oh absolutely You know what I mean But that I guess that's my problem too And I know if it was a rumor If it was true When she was turning down All those $4,000 bags

For all those Hostings and performances I don't know why, again, her management, one, would just take those because money is money right now. You don't know how long it's going to last. Two, use that shit as practice. I don't care if you blow the 4K on security in bottles for your friends. Use that as a way to see how crowds interact,

see what bars they scream out, see what points you can stop rap. Like, you need to go practice. If I'm her manager, yes. Matter of fact, we'll do it for free. Like, all right, we'll go to up and down tonight. Let's get behind the DJ booth. So you got to practice because you got rolling, loud in a week.

Yeah. Like I, so yes, I fully understand and do sympathize whether I saw people defending her like, come on, man. She just just got out there. But don't also turn down a bunch of bags where you could have practiced and even made some money, especially at this point in your career. It's, well, I'm happy that she was able to, first of all, you know, be in front of that crowd.

Sure. The record deserves to be on that rolling loud stage. Big record. One of the biggest records out now. You know, she's super hot right now. So it was good to see her. I'll see Fabio bring her out and give her the opportunity to, but she was. perform. You know, people being a little harsh on her performance. But again, she's not, you know, she's a new artist. She's not used to being on stage yet.

So, you know, you got to bear with it. I understand if you paid to see somebody, but I don't even think they knew that she was going to perform. But I think Frivo just brought her out and showed her love and gave her some time on his set, which was dope. And also Rolling Loud, and I don't want to make this sound like a dick. Because shout out to Rolling Loud. They've been doing constant festivals that have been safe and shit. I have nothing but great things to say about them and they're artist list and everything. It is the concert of backtracks. Like, no one really wraps. They just play the record.

So you can't be that mad that Ice Spice wasn't it when literally almost every single artist at Rolling Loud throws on the song and raps along tape for appearance. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's really a bunch of, it's a party. Rolling Loud is a walkthrough party. She's your favorite artist walks on stage and is like, you, this is the song.

Yeah, I'm here. Well, shout out to Ice Spice for hitting the Rolling Loud stage. I know that was crazy for her to walk out and see all those people standing there. I'm mad, we miss it. I would like to see you because I got to witness you watched Summer. Ed and got to witness you to see Bad Bunny. Like, you've been getting into your fan bag lately. I would like to see how you gave it up.

For Ice Spice? For Ice. Well, she's from the Bronx, so I got to represent for, you know, I would have to, you know, I would have... I feel that. Yeah, I got to represent for the Bronx. I feel like to. so you know I would have been right there. Oh, absolutely.

You should have been on stage with it. They wouldn't tell, being able to tell the... What if I was Ice Spice's Hype Man? Fraternal twins. Yeah. You could definitely be Ice Spice's fraternal. Not fraternal.

Hype Man. If I had taken her red fro, I would look like Annie. Yeah. I'd call you Manny. There's a viral. My name is not Manny. Oh, you're Irish. Danny. My bad.

Danny boy. Oh, Danny boy. I got to remix that. I can do the drill record of Danny Boy. Now, you could be Old Spice. I feel like that's Irish Deodorant. I feel like that's Irish Deodorant, right? Ice spice and old spice.

That's so. They have Irish Spring deodorant? DM me, man. Let's start this group. Okay, so yeah, you'd be Irish Spring. Ice Spice and Irish Spring. Yo, she got a DM me. I think we're on to something.

I think so, too. They called the Speedstick. Yuck. You can tell a lot by a man's deodorant. Like, if you go with somebody's back and just see that deodorant, And just see that deodorant? You're like, okay, I know what type of nights he'd be having. And body wash, yeah.

You can tell a lot about. Yeah, it's like, that's what you be getting in a shower using? I like women's dove spray. That's where I'm having my life. Women have better. You use spray deodorant? Yeah. That shit irritates me.

I can't do that shit. Yeah, I can't use it. You guys have pussy pits then. I do have pussy pits. Be a man. Yeah, I can't, bro. I can't use spray deodorant. Throw some water and some gobble on that.

Spray deodorant? I cannot use. That shit fucking irritates. I totally throw Gold Bond on your chest in the summertime. No way. I never understood that baby powder shit on the neck and chest. I never understood that. It helps her sweating.

Just like I don't understand seeing a man outside with like sandals on with his toes out. It's not that hot. Like if I'm not on a beach or by a pool. You got an issue with sandals now? Bro, walking through fucking 6th Avenue in the city with sandals on? It's insane. No, no, that is insane. It's not that hot outside.

In the leisure of like around your neighborhood. No, no. I'm talking about midtown, like on the subway. Oh, that's a lot. on the bus. And you got pants on though with the sandals. Like, what is that? It's not that hot outside, bro.

Like, you could put sneakers on or you can put some regular shoes on. I promise you, it's not that hot. I'm a socks and slides guy, so. Yeah, of course. But not in the city. You would wear that in the city? I've done socks and slides when I didn't have to walk a lot in the city. I can't do that.

I just feel like you got to be all the people. I've done crocs and socks in the city before. Well, Crocs, if you put them in Sport Moor, we know that's kind of like having some slippers on or some, you know. comfortable sneakers. But I saw a video some dudes was running out of the cops had raided at the trap house,

I think in Texas somewhere and the dudes was jumping out of the second floor window to get out of the apartment and all of them had crocks on. I'm like, y'all in the trap house doing illegal shit and y'all not wearing sneakers

in case you got to run? I mean, you're not thinking of you. You should be thinking that when you're doing illegal shit. You should be thinking like we may have to run in a minute. You've, I'm sure, been in the kitchen cooking

and just wanted to just lay back, let your hair down. Not in your feet out. Not in the trap house. Yeah, leisure. They were cooking with leisure. Look at this dude. Look at the crock out the window.

Like, yo, how are y'all wearing crocs like in a trap house? Okay, but don't do that because he didn't put it in sport. And I only know this because of movies. But I've seen all like, you know, even American gangster and why am I blanking on New Jack City? They had all the girls butt-ass naked. And then when Russell Crow rated, like, now the girls are just naked in the projects running around. They didn't even let the girls wear socks. Yeah, no, we need to see everything.

Y'all not going to be stealing the work out of here. All right, so we've confirmed that Ice Spice and Old Spice will be on the Rolling Loud stage next year as a group. I'll be there to support. I'll be there with a sign. Yeah, I got you on the All Access Artists Pass and shit. Thank you. But speaking of groups, offset didn't perform with the group.

Was this his debut solo performance? Like, outside of probably like a few club joints or whatever. I say festival-wise, yeah. Festival-wise, I think so. He did Kimmel, I think. I think he did Kimmel. Cuevo and Takeoff did Summer Smash in Chicago, so they had been already doing some shows together.

Yeah. But it's still different with two people of a three-man group performing. That one solo shit is different. Yeah. But from the video I saw it, it looked great. Of course, he was performing Migo's songs as he fucking should. I'm not mad at that, but it must have been a little weird putting that set together. Because so much...

When you have three people, and for the most part, all three of them usually put a verse on it. Yeah. Or are heavily involved, their hooks are all three of them. Like, of course, you can have backtracks and all that type of shit. But yeah, is it just a one verse set list throughout the entire thing? I mean, a lot of the times, you know, artists that were in a group or they had songs with feet. Because it's just like having a song with features on it. Whatever, you play your verse, maybe the hook, and you get out of this.

So it's not too much of an adjustment. But for me, for offset, it's different because, you know, it was a group with his family. And, you know, bad and bougie is obviously one of the biggest records of however the last many years. But the dope part about it was the whole rain drop drop top bar in the middle of a storm. Leather suit on, ski goggles. Looks like he was prepared for the rain. For sure. I will say.

I was home during that. It was terrible. He needs to take that, find the photographer, take that frame that put that in the house because that's hard. Well, I guess my question is because I've seen, I've seen Wu Tang members perform solo. I've seen them perform two of them, three of them. I've seen Big Boy when he was doing Rock the Bells by himself. Yeah. So it's not rare, but I guess this is a compliment to the Migos.

All of their songs are the three of them on every single fucking part, whether it's ad-lives, whether it's, going in and out on some kissing style shit in their own type of way. And not only that, too, the performance of it. Yeah. So it's so used to being three of them. So just spacing on the stage. Like, whereas with Wu Tang, a lot of times

it's verse hook, verse hook, verse hook, where they don't complement each other's verses the way Migos do. That's why, like, when I go to a ghost and ratio, it's not as weird as it may be with this. So, I mean, I commend offset for pulling a set off. And Big Boy, too. I mean, Big Boy has a good solo catalog, so that's helpful with him.

But I will say there was a lot of times during his Rock the Bell set that I was like, oh, yeah, we're going to have to cut this record off short. Like, oh, it's a classic, but it's just one. It doesn't hit the same. I like offset, though, man. He looks good on the stage. He looks like he's getting comfortable. Again, I know it's an adjustment, but he doesn't look awkward.

His stage presence is really great. The only thing about this performance is I wish that was like a, new solo offset record in that moment that the crowd was reacting to like that. But, you know, the fact that it was bad and bougie still, that's a, that's a classic record. And again, that moment in the rain by himself, you know, dancing and, you know, getting into his solo bag. Like, it was good to see offset.

I like offset. I commend it. Because you got to imagine performing for your whole career with two of your family members and then having to go rock rolling fucking loud. In the rain by yourself. That's difficult. That's not an easy thing to do. So shout out to Offset.

And shout out to Rolling Loud from what I hear again. There was no injuries. Great weekend. That was serious injuries. Yeah. Wasn't no too many acts of violence. Yeah. You know, it was some drunkies that were running around doing drunk shit.

But do you expect that at a festival? Oh, that's 7 train coming back from City Field. Good luck. Good luck. Just so, uh, sardines box. Yeah. But anyways, since we didn't do Rolling Loud, I finished the Dahmer series. I was dry in my home looking at the rain while also watching a serial killer.

I got up to episode six. Demaris had hit the group chat and told us, I think, Saturday it was the entire series because I thought when I watched it when it first premiered on Netflix, I saw only one episode that was available. And then Julian said it was two when we got back from D.C. Saturday. And then Saturday night, Demaris said, you know, the entire season is available. So then I watched two more episodes Saturday night and I watched two more episodes, Sunday. Sunday night. So I'm on episodes going to episode seven. Great series. I believe that this is going to win a whole bunch of awards. What's the gentleman's name that's playing Jeffrey Dahmer?

Evan Peters. Is he the same guy from American Horror Story? American Horror Story. Yes. Same guy from American Horror Story. A really good actor. He's doing a great job. He's going to get every offer under the sun after the shit. He played this role almost like too good. Yeah. And not even like, Because there's a whole episode called Silence that is when he's with the deaf gentleman that he ends up murdering. There's no dialogue and he does a fucking masterclass in acting of just facial expressions and just creepy energy on a screen is not even how it was scored. Just his fucking face. I don't understand how you can have your eyes look so creepy all the time. Yeah.

Like he just smoked this entire role. That's his bag in American Horror Story too, though. he always plays the really creepy under the radar. There's the one season where he's a star and it's like the Trump election season. And he kills that. He's like a school shooter kind of kid. It's just amazing to me that, you know, stories like this and series like this are always number one like on Netflix or Amazon, wherever these shows are streaming at. And it's like, so the entire country is sitting around in their homes watching this.

Yeah. And really diving into it, having, you know, talk pieces on social media about it, re-digging up the, you know, the footage and of the real case, real photos of the victims. Well, we as a country are obsessed with death that doesn't have anything to do with us or affect us that we can watch safely from our homes. It doesn't even necessarily have to be serial killer shit. We've had the conversation about the wire and snowfall. Like just in general, anything where there's crime, death, or something we could watch from behind the glass

that doesn't affect us. We are all the way in. We were talking off mic with Demaris. Law and order, SVU has probably been the most popular sitcom. At this point. It is a sitcom at this point. It's definitely a sitcom. And look at the one that is the most popular, SVU.

It's, we just as a country, love nasty shit that we can be safe. Now, if it happens to us, Oh my God, how could you exploit this? And that's the thing about this. It's like these are real families. Yeah. These are real victims, real families that are affected by this, that, you know, I'm pretty sure are seeing everybody talk about the series.

Some of them are probably even watching the series. I'm sure. But it's just fucked up to think that, yo, like, we're watching this and like, this is some sick shit, but this really happened. Some things, some facts and some things about the series are kind of manipulated a little bit to fit the series. But this is a true story, unfortunately. Jeffrey Dahmer, you know, I remember hearing that name when I was younger.

I don't remember the entire case. But watching this, watching this series on Netflix and just like, you know, getting information and then like reading real clips on social media about the case and what really happened and things like that. You know, it's crazy to think that families really went through this. Yeah. families really went through this and now people are being paid to betray this

like on TV. Winning awards. Winning awards for this. So what does this do for the next young serial killer right now that's sitting at home that's like do they aspire to be a net I don't mean to laugh.

It's just funny to hear that. Like the kids at home. Yeah. That are one of potentially. Jeffrey Dahmah was a kid. He was a kid at one point. He had his issues like we're seeing. But there are.

he's not going to be the last one. Well, I mean, that's always been, even the debate I remember after Columbine was like, okay, we put these kids on the cover of time after it happened and that's what they wanted. Like, we're giving every kid that is in dire need of attention and feels bullied and wants to feel wanted.

All right, if they do this, they will become popular and they will get what they want. They'll be on the cover of every fucking magazine, every newsstand, every television. You know what's funny? I do really think Jeffrey Dahmer back to the, seeking attention conversation in full circle. I do not think he was one of those people that wanted to be some star that everyone talked

about. I think once he realized he could be one when he got to prison, which is why America is so fucking sick, that he had fans and people were like really treating him as if he was Michael Myers, which is a fictional thing, that he was like, oh, fuck, wait, I can be wanted this way. This was worth it. Right. So it speaks to America too, because we all know, and we talked about it with

Adnan case, even though he didn't do that, he is going to come home to all this fetish shit of these women that love murderers in prison. And that's what Jeffrey Tommer had. He was getting... He was understated in prison and then the letters and the money started coming in. And then he started feeling himself and then he started becoming an asshole to everyone in the prison. Yeah.

And he was ultimately killed in prison by another inmate. Yeah, it's just... I mean, I'm going to finish it, but it's a crazy story. Well, is there statute of limitations on jokes with the woke culture? Because I feel you. This is exploiting it. But there were some things that was laughing at. I mean, we'll say it.

And if they cancel you, that's how you find out. My homie really shimmied the fuck up out of there. Like, if somebody ever kidnapped me and I need to get away, I'm throwing ass too. Did y'all see him? There was in every single scenario. Of course, hindsight is 2020. But how many more red flags from the moment you open that door do you need? I don't want to, I'm not victim blaming here.

but come on I'm not sure you told my friends you live at this address and took me to a whole other address Is it just because I'm a woman and like I have to pay attention to these things And I'm like uh

Well I'm sure gay men have to have Their radar up on a lot of shit as well Not to the degree of women But I'm sure that community has other Jeffrey Dahmer type people It was crazy the one episode Where he had the body laying on the floor by the bed and the cop went in there

and he was like all this gay stuff in there it is and that stopped the cop from going all way in the room he was like oh like yeah I don't want to I was just peek in here and see what going on

it's like there's a body right by the bed where's a head in the fridge and just the way he said it and I don't know did we laugh at Jeffrey Dahmer in that or how great it was acted anytime I don't know officer

there's some gay shit over there and that just stops them from like going in and probing a little more like oh yeah it's gay shit and I'm like what's in there he's like well officer it's just a bunch of more or gay shit.

And they don't go in there. Yeah. And they're like, oh, what are you and your boyfriend doing there? You know. A bunch of gay stuff.

Gay stuff. If this was a horror film, this, because so many people escaped, it would have ended in the first five minutes. It's one of those when you watch it on a big screen. You'd have been like, come on.

This wouldn't have lasted. But it did because it was an understated community. He lived in the hood. No one cared about these people. And they were gay black men. So they were just like, yeah, let him do his thing.

Well, also someone that's, went out to the bars and tried to pick women up. Jeffrey Dahmer was pretty smooth. He always left with something. Okay, DeMaris, someone that I deem a very good cook, how did you feel about Jeffrey Dahmer, not even putting oil in the pan,

let alone any seasoning when he threw the liver into the skillet? Well, liver has a lot of flavor. Okay, so that's one of those, like, if it's a good cut of meat, you don't want to, over-seasoning it. So he ain't need no seasoning on that? No cut. He did need some seasoning. What about a dipping sauce with the liver?

Blood? I thought he had, didn't he have like blood? There's got to be. All right. Did he have a stomach ache the next day? Drinking blood and eating livers. Like, it's got to do something to indigestion. How does that have, did he have heartburn? Did he have heartburn after that? No punting's ended? We do it every day. It should be good for you, honestly. Yeah.

You know, we've talked about like going to White Castle and all the iron and sometimes what that soil looks like next day. Oh, what about after a nice liver? Human liver. What do you think the toilet's like? Not bad, probably. The same thing is after you eat an animal liver. Yeah. I know that fucking apartment is like, shit. He's got to be different.

That apartment, it looked like it stink on TV. Yeah, he had Ryan... Like, they made it look like it stink. Like, that kitchen looked like it stink. Yeah. I actually thought it was a well-put-together shitty apartment. Do you all remember? Well, Eddie, you grew up in the Bronx.

Have you ever, like, smelled the dead body in the building? I have a hundred percent. Yeah. Burned air and everything. That doesn't really happen anymore. I mean, you don't hear about that. They get the dead body pretty quickly. Yeah, but I guess because people have,

everybody has a cell phone, social media. but I've thank God and never want to know what burning flesh smells like, but that building must have been. They said it smells like bacon. I see that. I can't see that. It's me. It's more like me.

Like weird. Like tacos? My home girl who's in surgery, she said. Carterized flesh smells like bacon. But knowing what it is makes you sick. It's not a happy bacon smell. So back to Roy's point about him just getting his shit off. Look at the dates when he really started getting into his.

bag. Look how close these killings are to each other. No, it was wow. He was averaging like two a month. It was crazy. Look at that. That's five, seven days apart, the last two. No, he was, and he was getting busy. And I, I feel like it did start to get around that community where one dude was like stopping another one from getting in the cab and the bath. The houses were like, we can't have you here. I just feel like the gay community in Milwaukee probably wasn't huge. Nobody was like, fam. This guy is not allowed to this. bar anymore.

Yeah. Get him the fuck out of here. Well, the one guy kicked him out of the, whatever those homes are. The bath houses. But he kept going back to the same bar and who knows, that could have just been the TV show. But I mean, how many gay bars were in Milwaukee in the 90s? Not many.

It's a very sad case and the police were fucking awful during the entire thing. Police were negligent a lot and just obviously in this whole situation. The military, he was raping his bunkeys. The military was negligent. The military is still negligent. I was going to say. If you want to hit some recent stories about the military, they're still negligent a lot of shit, unfortunately.

But what's the craziest lie that you've gotten off the longest? Because he did the meat has spoiled for, I think, all 17. Like, yeah, I just had a bunch of meat. The fridge is broke. I'm going to clean it tomorrow. Then he told the neighbor, oh, yeah, that's my fish. My tropical fish died. They caught something called ick.

What he said? I said, ick. I'm like, what? What the fuck? That's not fish in a tank smelling like that. Like get the fuck out of it. Also, I don't know if you guys have gotten to the silence episode with the deaf gentleman that he killed. Jeffrey Dahmer created a board game when he was a kid.

Talk about a shitty board game. No thought put into it. Like what? Very uncreative child. I see why he got into murder because he had no creativity. He literally created a game where you just roll a dice and just go the amount of spaces until you get to the end. And he used like the wish bonus pieces. Yeah.

Sick. Sick. Like who's... Listen, man. Dom was on Netflix now. If you haven't watched this, he's like the whole country is watching and the whole world's watching him

because it's number one on Netflix. Who do you guys blame for him becoming a monster? I don't think he stood a chance. Yeah, his, his upbringing, his parents. It was like inevitable

between what his father was. Well, at least you know his mother's not crazy. The UFOs are real. That is true. She thought she was crazy. You know, UFOs, we did find out there real. Where's his brother at? That's what I want to know.

I don't know, man. But this is, again, this series is number one. People are watching it. People are loving it. So, yeah, watch it. I'll finish it. I didn't want to finish it because I'm just like, this is crazy. But I'm going to finish it just because I'm six, seven episodes in,

so I got to finish it at this point. and like where where is the serial killer game at these days when was the last serial killer we had and what defines a serial killer i think it has to be more than i think three people maybe three right yeah i think it has to be more than an uber's worth like how many people can fit in an uber yeah like an uber excel or xl seems like a good that's a cereal but i feel like that's a cereal but cereal should be like what if someone just has i would never say justify killings but reasons for killing three different people three different reasons. Serial killer, I feel like you're just killing people because you have the urge to kill. How many bodies until that's no longer a viable excuse? Yeah. I don't know. I just wish people would stop

doing this. So you have to have a cooling off period in between in order to be considered a serial killer. Like if I go kill you on Tuesday, edit on Wednesday, Julian on Thursday, I'm not a serial killer. You have to have a cooling off period. Well, I mean, you've ruined this fucking podcast. I'll tell you that much. So you have to give the police time to like try to catch you before you kill your next victim?

Well, it has to be like... You have to go on vacation? He took a seven-year gap because his first kill was an accident. Yeah, he was young. He was still in high school, right? He just killed, like, the one white boy. He was like, shit. Yeah.

Just because he was trying to get to the festival. Yeah. Hey, slow down, man. Have a beer with me. He tried to kiss him. He was like, whoa. Are you taking me to the festival or not? I'm like, what?

It's almost seven. He just wanted some sugar before y'all went to the festival. Did you guys watch the actual real Jeffrey Dahmer? interview because of course I watched it after the series of course you did because i'm weird yeah Jeffrey dommer's my favorite serial killer you're not weird for that like i've always loved his interviews oh you makes he Jeffrey dommer's your favorite your top five dead or a lot give me your mount rushmore of serial killers who's on your mount rushmore of uh killers anyway he's he's he was always my favorite because i always felt like there was the way he could have been saved he was so him

and ted bundy one eight one bendy no i never was a big ted bundy fan okay yeah she's more she's more underground like ted bundy was too mainstream for yeah yeah yeah jeffrey dumber is not underground Well, that's like, I mean, neither's Jay-Z, but he's your number one rapper. He's like the exception. Damo's more of a hipster anyway. Domer's like the gnaz to Bundy's Jay. Exactly. Exactly.

There was more of an art. Anyway, Rory, you watched the documentary. I'm still waiting for your top five because you have a one. So you have to have a two and three. No, because I know how crazy that sounds. Do you have any women in there? Have you ever written to a prisoner-serving life that may have murdered somebody? No.

Okay. Just checking. Have you ever? busted open on HomeWave for somebody that's in the prison system? No. Do you really? Wait, what did you say? You never got naked on camera on for HomeWave for somebody that's locked up?

No. He was ever going crazy on Core Links? No. People go to jail, they know. See when you get out. See me when you get out. No, yeah. That's the point.

I've been here for another 16 years. Like, I'm going to be here for a while. I need to see some tities now. Are you one of those people that says technically Charlie Manson didn't kill anyone? technically you didn't oh god are you are you

uh yeah yeah i figure he was more uh he's more in like the riko stages for me like he was the boss that told people to kill okay so he still deserves to be in prison but you know he you never think he caught a body he didn't pull the trigger

you don't think he ever pulled the trigger no i don't think i don't think charles manson killed anyone or unless he did not in that serial killer era when he was killing all holly good yeah he might have done some sick shit before. He deserved to be in prison. No can be wrong. He's a sick fuck. I'm just saying he didn't kill anyone.

I get what you're saying. He didn't actually kill anyone with his hands, but he killed people. Yeah. He had people killed. Let's leave it at that. More or less. Yeah. All right, well, serial killers. A wild card for me and just maybe because there's certain

artists that you just have a closer relationship with, so you like them a little bit more. Son of Sam is definitely in my top three. Um, My mother lived next door to him. My mother was pretty much the woman was Mrs. Cleveland in the Domer case. That was my mom in the son of Sam case. Was it?

My mother lived in the same building as Son of Sam. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. That's crazy. At the same time. So, like, I have, you know, I'm tied. I'm tied to David. You know, we go back.

David. You remember when they had, what was it, the ice man? Yeah. Yeah, but he was. We were scared of shit in the Bronx of the ice man. Yeah. Every newspaper had him on there. He looked like everybody in the hood.

But it ended up, he lied about a lot of that shit. Like he was just a compulsive lie. He definitely killed a few people, but he was not what they said. Like most of the people he murdered, it ended up other people. And he was like a hired killer at one point. He wasn't like son of Sam who just heard the dog barking and was like. He claimed to murder over 100 people. The Iceman?

Yeah. Cops and even people post all this have said he's, he's, one of the biggest liars ever and really didn't kill. He's the game of murderers. Yes, pretty much. The game. And he named drop mad people on the mob, too. Like any time he's like, Sammy the Bull,

John Gotti. Right on the stand. Yeah. He is the game of serial killers for sure. John Gotti interlude. Yeah. And then when I watched the son of Sam God... You saw Michael Fran Sasey said about him.

He said he's a pathological liar. I spent 25 years in that life on the street. I'd never heard his name mentioned once. Yeah. You're not a serial killer. He's the six-nine of the serial killer game. Oh, my God. Remember the Hammer Man?

Remember the Hammer Man? I don't know. Oh, no, Ed didn't. Well, did you guys watch the Son of Sam recent doc on Netflix? Oh, it's really good. I didn't know it. It really was not just David Berkowitz. There was like four or five of them.

It was a whole crew. And they were tied to the Manson family. Sick. And my mom was in the safest place because he never killed anywhere near his crib. No, you can't ship me. The safest place was to be next door to him. You can't shit where you live You know that

And I never understood why my mom Anytime like would get in a jam Couldn't be like Well you know I live next door to son of Sam I heard the dog barking You don't know where my thoughts have been That's some scary shit when you think about it though For sure

Yeah right on Pine Street That's the thing When you live in buildings And shit in the hood growing up But it's always interesting Like you really don't know Like aside from seeing your neighbors In the hall and passing and shit like that

You really don't know What the fuck they'd be having going on in their apartment. At all. Like if your neighbors never like, like, I'm talking about like on your floor next door, you've never like been in their apartment. When I was growing up, it was something worried about that.

Because everybody in the building knew everybody. So if you never like went into all you're going to their apartment, like, oh, it's stinking there. I'm never going in their apartment again. But that's changed drastically. And I don't want to say just with gentrification. But with neighborhoods, people come and go out of buildings way more than they used to it.

Oh, yeah. Now you're like a creep if you even talk to your neighbors. What's wrong with that guy? Yeah. Oh, he's just trying to. get to know the person he's living next door to like a sane human being you're like i hear y'all might as well say hello when we're going to throw the trash out and i see you in the fucking compactor room um john way and gasey was touched upon in the uh in the domer dock towards the end

because he was getting lethal injection while dommer was locked up and he was a sick fuck he was a clown at children's parties um but he 30 plus victims would go in costume and strip people naked tie them up in the show they actually show him drowning a kid and like sodomizing him and then raping and killing him so like that was his bag Jeffrey Dahmer went to the prison priest

and was like I don't think I'm as bad as him like we're not about to compare this father yeah I hope they actually well I shouldn't say that I hope they do do the same television series about that clown guy I didn't know much about him he was sick as fuck they have some stuff on John Wayne Gasey no

yeah they definitely do They have a bunch of documentaries about them, but I don't know about like, I think this reenactment show is like a totally different format. Yeah, conversations with the killer. That was their most, yeah, this had a moment on Netflix. Just because, you know, I'm really into aesthetics. The Zodiac Killer definitely might make my top five, especially because he's never been caught. And he was definitely, he's probably the most, aside from Dahmer, he might be the most popular. I think it's Ted Bundy, Zodiac, Dahmer.

Or maybe Ted Bundy Dahmer Zodiac. But I met so many people today, well, over the weekend who were like, I've never heard of Jeffrey Dahmer before this doc. And I'm like, how? How old with that? Because a lot of people young. My age. Yeah. But he got caught in like, what, 91, 92?

Yeah. But Jeffrey Dahmer became more, and they kind of touched on it in the series, like more of a comic book punchline. Like, it almost wasn't real. Like, they would put Jeffrey Dahmer in with the made-up scary murder or killer people. Like, whereas Ted Bundy never was that. he was just like, oh, that was that serial killer. Jeffrey Dahmer really became a Halloween costume. Like, no one dressed up as Ted Bundy.

Yeah. Richard Ramirez was another one of those guys. Oh, the Nightstocker, yeah. Yeah, they just had his story on Netflix a few months ago. Well, I mean, he's, I appreciate him reping for Edens. Armameter. Yeah. He's like the bad bunny of cereal.

Because I'd be murdering the pussy. Excuse me? So if you guys were to go down the murderous route, What would your calling card be to all your victims? Like, Maul, would you drop a money bag on their index finger? Are you asking what our branding would be with our murders? Yeah. Would you?

Yeah. Yeah, you know. I'll probably leave like a money bag and like a half lit joint in Astra, some wheat. Well, your DNA is probably all over that. Yeah, but they got to find me to know who it matches to, right? I'm sure they have your fingerprints in the system. Do they? I don't know.

I'm joking. I used to file my fingerprints like before they would take it because I saw that in the movie once. Like just like take a matchbook and rub it on your fingerprints and they can't find it. No bullshit. I did that one time I got locked up. Did they not know that those are your fingerprints?

There's no way that worked. Well, one time they said he couldn't drink a bunch of cranberry juice and the weed won't show up in your place. One time they couldn't get my print off my thumb, though. I know that. Like he kept trying to it was like, because it went from the ink to the electronic. And it was like every time I rolled my finger,

He was like, are you pressing it hard? I was like, sir, I don't know if you want me to press any hard on it. Crime is supposed to have been so easy when it was ink for a fingerprint. That's why a lot of this shit I'm looking at now. Like, I could smudge the shit so easily. This would never happen in now and today's, because it's too much technology, too many cameras. Oh, no. He would just have just have common sense.

Like, he was at the bar. He would have been TikTok 35 times by the time he walked out of that place. He was here. Yeah. He wouldn't have made it to the first kill. Roy, what would your calling card be? With me, it's tough because I would not, I wouldn't want to be compared to Chuckie. because you know they try to do something with the red hair and that

and first of all I thought Chuckie was weird because I would kick the shit out of a doll if it tried to kill me like I would punt that doll over my fucking roof Rory would just rub Irish spring deodorant under the victim's armpits I could see that and walk out yeah listen he's dead but he smells great or like put a four-leaf clover on their forehead for every kill the clovea killer

the clover killer on to something. That accent was great. Oh, man. Well, we're not going to do that. No. I would be a terrible serial killer. Because, like, how nice the deaf guy was throughout the entire series, I was like, come on, Jeff, you don't see how beautiful this soul is. I would get halfway through it, like, he's too kind. Look at his eyes. Can't murder.

The thought of just, like, sawing somebody and, like, cutting them up. That just takes a different type of mentality, bro. Like, to cut somebody up. up and then carry their body parts into like a drum and just drop it in there like and then know that that shit is in like downstate that shit is that's some crazy shit man

I think the uh the actual clover killer won't be a serial killer why is that? Because I see all the women that followed the BBL trend to be super thick the tides are changing the trends are going back to

naturally sized women even with surgery Women are getting surgery to look naturally sized, if that makes sense. Yeah, there's an aesthetic change. So should the Clover killer be that I'll just take all the women from BBL and chop them back down to what women should look like? No, that's no. Let me not say should. I'm sorry, that's offensive, how women naturally look like. I take it back.

Naturally is offensive now. Everything's offensive. We know that. But I think what you're saying is women are going for a more not-so-notice voluptuous enhancement. Well, no, naturally, because women are beautiful. Yeah. Well, women are beautiful.

Women were trying to chase that with surgery. Right. Now I think they're going back to the, I guess, slimmer fit. Well, yeah. I don't even fucking know what's going on. If women have had enhancements and they added curves and, you know, they're not going for a more slimmer aesthetic. Because, you know, I think that women feel like it got a little out of control.

It did get a And if I may use a Drake line I'm with a woman Whose ass is slightly embarrassing Yeah That was not a woman with a natural ass No That was someone that put way too much

Yeah Too much umph in it Yeah And now these women are And now these women are 30 And it's like oh wow Yeah And I think that's the thing

As women get older women age They start to realize Like You know all of these Curves and enhancements It's like It's not I can't really wear

Certain things you know, without it being like overly sexualized. I can't wear certain dresses to dinner without it looking like, you know, it's just too much hanging out, too much showing. So they're going for more slimmer, more conservative. So that's the Clover. God-given. The Clover killer is the answer to Dr. Miami is what you're saying.

I'm that answer. Okay. With no medical degree. Hey, listen, you don't need one sometimes, right? Some of these women are getting enhanced about people to have no medical degree too. Dahmer was not a certified chef. No, he was not. Frying up that liver.

Yeah. Habachi, if you will. Can you imagine serial killer Habachi? Yeah. Like imagine him just flicking up some liver into... Hey, open your mouth.

What would he use for... What would he use for the chitrient? What would he use for, like, the volcano? That would definitely be like... The femur? Oh. That would be some intestines. I believe they call it chitlins.

Coil them up. What type of discharge would the sake be? Uh, uh... I'm just asking. He's like, can't be blood. To be more specific, we're referring to Kim Kardashian, who's recently been seen, who looks about half her size. And it's amazing because Kim is probably, you know, responsible for the change aesthetically

in women. Like as far as beauty, you know, her look, her style. Well, change starts at the top. Yeah. She's easily, she's easily one of the most of the most. most aesthetically influential women on the planet. I think Kim took a lot from other people, but she was just the most popular to do it. So I see where you're coming from.

Yeah, she's, she influenced, she changed the beauty aesthetics. She looked at a specific group of women and said, make me look like that. Oh, yeah, for sure. And then white, and then white bitches followed. She made it popular. She made, she made it popular. She made, even from the, let's be, she is a white bitch. 100%.

Okay, I'll take that. Kim looked at black women. There you go. Let's get specific. Uh-huh. and was like, let me take all the amazing features and surgically do it. Yeah. In that regard.

But now she's trying to scale it back. Let's scale it back. Because Kim, I believe before even, you know, the enhancement, she had a, she was curvy. She had, she had a, she had a, she had a nice, a nice shape. I'm never going to pretend to know. We've argued. I knew nothing about Kim Kardashian when y'all did. Well, I don't know what she looked like before.

Well, let's just take it back to the Ray J. Tate era. Still, I think I've seen. She was curvy. I think I've seen a vine of it. I don't really know. Fine. I've never. She looked great.

No, she did. She looked great. I'm not even sure if she had surgery back then, if she had work on her body done at that point. But she looked great even back then. She looks great now. Even the slim chem, she looks great. But we're so used to seeing her as the thicker version of herself that to me, even the newer one, even though it's probably her and her more natural state just looks unhealthy. Well, because it's such a change.

It's such a change. It's such a change. That's what it is. But even with like a lot of the facial surgery, like there's millions of beautiful skinny black women that I still feel like Kim is stealing from here too. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. But, yeah. Well, you know, you know, I mean, nobody influences the planet like black culture.

So. Of course. Well, yeah, I guess that won't be my clover killer thing. That will be my signature is to chop women up from thick to skinny. But into better news, like couple news. your guy, Carl Anthony Towns. Kat,

you know, my dad got inducted into his high school athletic Hall of Fame with Carl Anthony Towns this past year. Really?

We were on the pod together. Did I never say that? Maybe just because I keep my personal life. What sport did you read? My dad ran track at St. Joe's in Matuchin. He had went to school

in Newark and then transferred to St. Joe's. St. Joseph's in Matuchin, New Jersey. I think I'm correct. Maybe Scotch Plains, whatever. Carl Anthony Towns did not show up to the ceremony. I went with my dad, though. He got inducted into his high school Hall of Fame with Carl Anthony Towns.

That's dope. Which I thought was really fucking cool. That's some cool shit. Carl Anthony, he sent like a video in that we watched. Okay. But he didn't make it. Maybe it was in season? Maybe.

Was the season still going on? Probably. I think so. And then also, is it Beasley? Michael Beasley? I think Michael Beasley went to that high school too. He, I think, was inducted. Okay.

one of the most underrated players and then my guy Jay Williams who got in the motorcycle accident yeah he's a Jersey native he was also in that high it was a really cool just high school experience and I'm like dad you yeah like

he was like throwing the white boy they had to throw the white boy in yeah he ran track he was pretty decent he ran a good split yeah put him in there he ran a good split put him in there

but no that shit was really cool to see that and I didn't even know like he went to the same high school was my pop still I got there. And I was just supporting my dad, not Carl. But he was like, oh, Carl went, he's inductee at the same time. That's kind of dope, though, that your dad went into his high school Hall of Fame with Carl Anthony Town.

Yeah, I thought that was Jason Williams. Yeah, that's dope. But my dad definitely didn't do what Carl Anthony Towns did for Jordan. Jordan Woods. So Carl Anthony Town for Jordan, his girlfriend or are they married now, fiancé? They're engaged? I don't think they're engaged. I think they may be engaged.

She has her only fans Could you do it? She does Well what is she doing Her only fans? Because you can be cooking I have no idea Yeah

So it depends on what she's I just saw a headline That I could have been fake But for her 25th birthday Calling Town says Happy 25th birthday After this you get to say You get to say you're 18

Every year like your moms I know every year I have showered You with material gifts That people wish they could cop King's shit But this But this year

Your 25th year walking this earth. He went to the worst loser high school ever now that I'm reading this. But this year, your 25th year walking this earth, it's time to go from that girl to a full woman. You pick two businesses you want to start and I will fund them. It's time to take that next step. And I will walk with you step by step in this thing we call life. De Amo Mucho. Let's take over the world together.

Towns. What Latin country is that, Ed? Yeah, towns. He's with Latin countries, towns. They're throwing this. That's the Dominican towns. Of course, this is easy to clown and it's funny, but it's cool. I like it.

It's a nice gesture. It's very much social media buzzworthy and everything that he's saying. Carl did a good thing. And, you know, look, the women jumped behind us like, yes, this is the energy I'm talking about. This is what y'all need to do. He just signed a super max for like $200 million. Also, let's be real. If you give money to a girl to fund two businesses, what the fuck is she funding?

It's a 5013. It's called a charity. Yeah. It's a tax break. I mean, it is. Let's just be honest. The funds for girls weekend in Miami. But the gesture, you know, him saying that, yo, I don't want to just buy you a Chanel bag or some jewelry or start a business.

Start some businesses. And we're joking. And we're going to say we're the haters right now. No, no hate. I think it's beautiful. This is dope. This is dope. Carl did a good thing.

He did a great thing, actually. Okay. But what, like what you think she's going to? I don't know, Jordan. I know nothing about her. If I had to guess, I'm going to lead towards... Swimware. What are we doing?

I don't even think that's a guess. I think that's it. Maybe a wellness center. Definitely a wellness center. Where's she from? Where's Jordan Went's from? She's from Cali, I believe. She's from California, I believe.

She isn't like one of her dad's famous or some shit? She's not one of those Calabasasas kids who's... I figured she was one of those. Her dad's a TV sound engineer and her mom's Italian. Yeah, she grew up in... in the industry. Yeah, for sure, which is cool. If I, I would take advantage.

See, that's why I could never get a letter like that. I would take advantage. Because my mind is sick. It is. I'm like, y'all, I want to start a chain of Exxons. What are you going to do, Carl? Getting to the gas business. Gas is going crazy right now.

I mean, it's possible. You know how much money that would take. It's open a gas station, really? A chain of exons? Well, a chain is, yeah. That's a different thing. See, yeah, no one. could tell me this type of shit. My brain would get into like some real diabolical shit.

It's going to be interesting to see what she picks though, like what she chooses to do? Because you know the people are going to ask her to follow up. Okay. What businesses? Did you start? This is the problem with social media. Because now you wanted to play social media game and do the whole couple's goal shit. The pressure is on Jordan. Now she represents all women because all women would be like, I would just love my man to start my business. If she don't have a Fortune 500 company by Tuesday, Instagram killing her. Yeah, unfortunately. You setting this shit up because you want to play the IG games. I'm not saying his intentions with the IG games.

But this is IG game bullshit, couples goal bullshit. Yeah. If she don't have some shit on Shark Tank by fucking Christmas, she's a bum to the internet. Yeah, she foothed the bag. Yes. And every girl's going to be like,

oh my God, I would have started knitting my swimwear yesterday. The fact that he put king shit in the middle of that is like, Like Carl, I'm so with you. The fine is also disgusting. Wish they could cop. I used to say your girl, y'all. I got you stuff that people wish they could cop. King shit.

No, it's not king shit. What do you think his gifts were previous to this one? They had showed it one year. I think she had showed it was jewelry. She had got some designer handbags and stuff like that. Also, I think Carl's putting himself in a jam right now. What's next year? you pick two businesses you want to start and I will fund them.

Carl's putting himself in a position to be like, yo, that business sounds like bullshit. He gets caught in a RICO. Because have you ever asked. Why would he be in a RICO? You don't know Jordan Woods family. He's funding the businesses. She might have some brothers that are into some weird shit.

If this turns just a call getting caught in a RICO, they pull up the letter. You funded it. That's the whole point of RICO. You did fund it. You did fund it. King shit. Kingpin.

You were the kingpin. Yeah, you're a kingpin. Yeah, Carl, you might have put yourself in a little pickle with this one. All right. I'll put it to a lesser level of not even funny. Have you ever tried to get to know a woman, like, in a real genuine way and asked her like her hopes and dreams? And then she actually told you them and you were like, wow. That's the dumbest idea.

Wow. I've ever heard. I inserted my penis into you before. Holy shit. That's what you think is going to work. That is not a good idea. Now he's obligated to fund it. You guys are in the-

I felt weird being obligated to listen to it. No, but you also, but he also has the option to kind of be like, babe, let's go another route. Let's not. We can't- What if she says, we'll shut up and dribble. He's going to have to shut up and dribble. Or it's not king's shit no more.

You guys have been in the position where people probably asked pitched ideas to you. What's the dumbest shit someone's asked you to get behind? Yo, I just got out. I need to get back on my feet. I'll pay you back You know, listen I can't tell you how many times I heard that

Yo, you know what I'm saying It's hard out here It's hard for everybody fam Like I'm not just giving you money To then get mad When I say no next month When you need more money Like oh listen

I just went through that I was a extremely nice guy For a while I had to put my foot down Yeah, you have to You have to stop with these side of stories It said it's six months ago I know how this shit go

I'm empathetic to somebody getting out I get it And then no this is when everything changes yo if you need a spot to stay I'm right here yo I got food here cook anytime

and when you turn that down I'm not a sucker I'm not a sucker real like no you just ask me for money at this point yeah and it's unfortunate you know because you do want if you're in a position to help people

if you have that kind of heart you help but it's another thing when people know that and then now they're praying on that and trying to take advantage of you and you know just milk you for whatever you have and you have to learn how to say no so I'm glad you did put your foot down

I have a hard time telling people that I love no. Oh, it takes thousands and thousands of dollars later. Yeah. It bothers me to tell people I love no. Like it really, really fucks with me. Like, I think about it a lot. But it's, you know, you can't just keep giving somebody something when you know, all right, you're just taking advantage of the situation.

But to answer Julian's question, this isn't a cop out. I've been pitched so much shit. I don't know what they were really pitching. Like, that's how bad the pitches are. I'm like, all right. So what exactly are you asking me to fund right now? Like, what is this? Okay, so you want to like, you want to, all right, we're going to do the merch shit.

And then, like, we're going to do the internet thing, like, with the content. And then after the content, we're going to record that and monetize that. Like, I just need 50 grand to do that. Like, then we're going to press up the T-shirts. I'm just like, what is the idea? Yeah. It's just, yeah, people don't know. And, you know, you tell people all the time, you know, listen, come up with an idea, come up with a business,

come up with a business plan, a model. and then, you know, sit down, let's talk about it. People never can. They can never come up with the ideas. The most basic idea. Car wash. I'm like, I think that market is already taking care of. It's doing okay.

Yeah, like, people are washing their cars. Though I did watch P Valley and was like, why doesn't that exist? Stripper car wash? The intro to season two? Yeah. Why doesn't that exist? After the pandemic, I think it still work. It would.

That works. It would. And it looked good. Yeah. And I get to watch people shake ass When I'm driving through this shit Genius Strip clubs doing that during the pandemic

Or am I? I don't know Maybe hand car wash Yeah yeah that's yeah Oh I must have missed that Yeah But I really hope that Carl and Jordan Find that next idea

They seem like they really like Are into each other Really love each other I don't know And I don't particularly care I thought that was cute I just I foresee problems With the loan

Or with the funding Not with their relationship. I just think Carl's going to go through a few ideas and be like, I don't know if this is it, Bay. They're engaged. I think they are engaged. So, I mean, you know, naturally, if your wife wants to start a business, this is what you're supposed to do. So shout out the call. He did a good thing for his lady. Or do you think he's actually ages above us as far as maturity? And this is his way to get his girl. No, he said King's in a letter. No, he's not ages above us. That could just be even Mormon. This is his way to just get his wife off his back. I want to fund two-year businesses.

Why are you talking to me right now? Don't you have two businesses to run? Mm, okay. Stay busy. Stay busy. Stay out my business. Yeah, like, wait. I thought you got your own business.

You got some shit going on. Yeah. What's you doing right now? Yeah. Stop showing up to my head. Oh, yeah, he spoke to a vet. He spoke to a vet in the league. Yeah, listen, start a business for us.

This is the third time you've showed up to a Utah jazz game. Yeah. Like, why are you in Utah? Yeah. You don't ski. Now, he spoke to, he spoke to some vets in the league and they said, bro, listen, just start some businesses for her. She won't have time to worry about what the hell you're doing.

Yeah, I like it. I love it. Great idea. We saw over the weekend, and we'll stay in NBA for just real quick, because right now we're recording, it's what, Monday at 842. Is Matt Barnes full of shit? No, I don't think he's full of shit. I think he... I waited all fucking day today for the shit that he talked about on Friday.

I was like, listen, Stephen A, all the people in the sports media worlds have the weekend off to some degree. I thought that whole shit was going to happen, Matt Barnes, yo. It's a darker, deeper criminal link. I thought we was about to get that. Nothing is broken today. Yeah. I think the reason why it hasn't broken is because the organization and which we said

from the jump, this whole shit should have been suppressed. We should have never known about it. But because they took action and suspended Emaid Doca for the season, we would have to get some reason like, yo, what happened? Why are you suspended the coach for the season? Now, I did think we were going to get the story by today. And when Matt Barnes got, for the people that don't know, Matt Barnes got on, what, Friday? Yep.

Friday got on IG and was like, yo, I take back my post defending him. It's some nasty shit going on in there. Y'all are going to find out eventually it's not my place to say it. Yeah. I thought that meant this is going to get nuts. It's feeling like Matt Barnes might be full of shit. Not, he's, he know, because Matt is not that type of guy. He knew that when he finally got the real story of what happened, he kind of jumped out there and, you know, he spoke on some things and he didn't have all the context and information.

So when he was, that post that he put up was like, oh, okay, I didn't think it was that type of situation. Let me back out of this because it's deeper than I thought. I thought he just got caught fucking with, you know, somebody on the staff. Obviously, it's the whole story behind it. We don't know yet. But I don't think Matt Barnes is full of shit. I think that he, whatever he said, I think he felt like once he got the real story that he was out of line. that he was out of line.

And he was like, all right, I got to, I'll take back what I said. I'm out of that. I'm not touching that because it's way different than I anticipated or thought it was. So I don't think Matt Barnes is, Matt Barnes is no stranger to this type of shit. You know, him and Derek Fisher obviously went through that thing years ago with, you know, a significant other. So I think that Matt recognized and put himself in that position, which I think Matt was right in that all situation. I didn't, I don't think he was wrong. I don't think he was wrong.

But I think Matt put himself and was like, I've been through some shit. You know, some people probably didn't have the full story, but they spoke on it. Now that I have the full story, I was wrong. Let me take that back. Okay. But you're adding kind of more to my point because I've always looked at Matt Barnes as a pretty reliable thorough source. I liked how he handled the Derek Fisher thing. I fuck with Matt Barnes.

So when he said that, it came out of his mouth. I was like, oh, this could get nuts if Matt Barnes is saying this. Yeah. And maybe there will be more will be revealed. But I thought over the weekend we would get something Monday morning if Matt Barnes got it. I did too. I thought he was going to be something certain. Because I consider him a real source and I fuck with Matt Barnes.

Yeah, but I mean, again, I think the Celtics are doing all they can to suppress the whole situation. We know that. Are they? They leak the whole thing. But we don't, we still don't know what exactly happened. They could have to get ahead of whatever. We know that he was sleeping with somebody on the staff. We know that.

We don't know the exact details. we don't know, you know, who, what, we don't know a lot of things. We know that he was caught sleeping with someone and he has a... The wife, the VP of Finance, his wife. Yeah, but we don't know it. I mean, but it's, again, it's probably deeper than just that. Yeah, no, definitely. That's all I'm saying.

Deeper than rap, that's what you're saying. It has to be. I mean, until we find out exactly, you know, because I don't... Have you all slept with a coworker before? Yes. Yeah. He said that without a mic right away. You know he slept with a bartender at the fucking

Oh, he doesn't want the mic anymore He doesn't want the mic now He didn't sleep with the hostess He stumbled in 100% He stumbled in her That's what he did Oh, Poppy, I love the way you mix those records I love your smooth transitions

I play the fifth Yeah, now you want to know You poured a fifth That's what you did You didn't plead a fifth You pulled a fifth. Yeah. You plead the Cinco.

Oh, damn it. I was going to say that. Julie was so disappointed he didn't say that. I was going to. I wanted to say that. Julian, you've worked at every record label. How much of the A&R department did you run through? Jesus Christ.

Yeah, I didn't even work in A&R. I know. You ran through another department. But there are some hussies in A&R. Now, I did not. I have slept with coworkers that weren't at the label that I was at. Co-workers that weren't at the, is that a co-worker? No, just in the same industry as you.

That doesn't count. Yeah. That doesn't count. You slept with . Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I've never asked for an edit. Did this be my edit?

I'm joking. I will say, and I have admitted it a lot of, of my faults. I have never slept with a co-worker and that's one of the few things in my life I'm proud of. Oh, it's great. Oh, you're like, oh. This is the only thing I've been good at my life is not fucking where I eat type of shit. Sleeping with coworkers, sleeping with neighbors. I've fucked up in every aspect of my life. There's one thing I've never done. Someone in your building, you ever do that before in your apartment building? No, no, no, no, no, no. Nope. Never done that. I would never. I would never do no shit like that. You can't, it's just, and I, and I knew not to do that without even like hearing

horror stories about it. That's just something that I was just like, that just sounds like a bad idea. But don't get it twisted. I'm not judging people because I get it. Like, I even worked at one point a corporate job with the advertising shit. That shit almost felt like jail where the girls

that looked ugly started to look good because I It's the mermaid effect. It's the jail effect. Yeah. People to start looking better. Yeah, you're with them most of the day. Yeah, I mean, and you get to know people on a personal level. convenience. I started to understand it. It's something I wouldn't do, but I get it.

Because I was definitely sitting there like, oh yeah, these people are starting to look more attractive just by proxy. Yeah, that's not, but you're sleeping with a neighbor, somebody that lives in your building. Even somebody that on the block, even on the same block, I wouldn't do it. No. You just can't. You can't, bro. It gets messy. You know, it's just unnecessary drama. It's like, nah, I'm cool. I'm not doing it. Not doing it. Nope. I mean, it does. happened. There was one time when I was in college, right when I got kicked out, I had to find

a spot to stay and I was just fucking around with this girl that came to the spot. Semester ended, I had to find a spot to live in. I found a room. Didn't know the guy I was really living with like that. He was a friend of a friend. Woke up maybe like a week into living in that spot, go into

the kitchen. Shorty's was fucking him and was in the kitchen making eggs. Damn. Wait. Wait. Hold on. What? Shottie was in the kitchen fucking a dude while she was making eggs No, no, no, no, she was fucking with him

I'm sorry, I didn't mean she was physically fucking him Oh, that's what I was about to be That'd be kind of ill That's what I was like, I would have kept her around If that was a kiss I'd say no, she sounds like a keeper Getting her back blown down

And she's still scrambling That's the best way to scramble the eggs Yeah, Jesus Christ She's like, yeah Yeah, but at that point out Even that was too much for me I was like, oh, this is too close to home Yeah, what's going on

It's way too much. But either way, we didn't, we, I'm pretty sure we'll get the full story sooner or later. Probably, Woldja will probably break it to us. We know Wohge bomb. Yeah, Wodger's going to break it, break it to us. I'm just waiting for, you know what? I think it won't happen with him, but it should. Once it, and you pronounce his name because I'm too white.

Who? Eme Udoka. Eme Udoka. Thank you. See, I'm one of the white people that would just admit, I'm not going to try to butcher it to seem woke. I just I can't I'm me

Udo I can yeah Udoca Yeah Sudoku I know who I am And I know what Tom it is Okay

He should be the martyr Let the shit come out And then expose everybody NBA That's what I would do Honestly Go you know Listen Kamakazi yourself

Go nuts Expose everything Like everything In the organization Or the NBA The way Monica Lewinsky Should have done it I don't know

I don't know Yeah I don't know email want to walk that line because now you're throwing other people under the bus. Okay, we wouldn't have Hillary's emails if Monica just would have spoke of. Monica would have gotten killed though. Yeah, that's a fan. Oh, man. Oh, yeah, yeah.

She would have fallen. She would have been habachi. Habachi. Early cancer. Domers dish. Yeah. Tomers dish. Domers dessert.

But do you think I foresee this happening at some point? Somebody's going to start telling everything about the NBA. Well, people have already come out and say it can't be he just slept with somebody in the staff because literally. everybody on every team is doing that. Like Stephen A. Smith, I think, said that. It was like, we shouldn't even know about this. It should have been kept in-house because if it's just that he slept with somebody

and the staff, every single team, that's going on. 100%. It's not even like, like some people, we were talking about Jeannie Bus and Phil Jackson. They were always a conflict of interest. If you sleep with something. Yeah, but she was the GM and the president and she hired him as the coach and they were dating. So why wasn't it a conflict of interest there? You know what I mean?

But it is what it is. Either way, Me along, we love you. I mean, who's going to be the whistleblower within the podcast community of all the podcasters that are fucking? Ed and, yeah, for sure. He's going to write a tell-all-all.

I mean, he's the one that shoots everything. He's going to write a tell-off. I know everything. I know everything. I know where your skeletons are. Is there podcasters that have fucked each other within our podcast community? Come on, absolutely, bro.

Absolutely. Are you kidding me? Absolutely. I don't know. Absolutely. I'm really the ignorant guy here. Absolutely, people have fucked Yes, like people we know

Absolutely You film it? What, them fucking? Oh no, I didn't film them fucking But you filmed them potting Yes Oh, hell yeah He said oh yeah

Gracefully for like six years now Yes Yeah, they're doing it It's hell hell yeah Tell us all I'll never tell Wait for the book Go by the book

Edens tell all My life in podcasting Would be the funniest thing What would you tell about Your favorite podcasts are nasty What would you put What chapter would be The New Roryam All chapter?

I don't know if there's anything You could really tell Not really, no Oh, there's some shit you can tell You'll just die That's worth the death You guys will probably You will die

You'll probably be seven chapters You gotta think about We probably have a pretty boring staff In that regards Oh yeah We're not doing that too crazy We wouldn't be good In a tell all

Yeah no We got to step our tell all People are like, oh, fuck this chapter. Oh, this chapter fucking sucks. You guys aren't fucking enough. You got to get the numbers up. One day I went to Rory's house and there was no bottle of water. Can you believe this guy?

Aaron Judge broke the single season Yankee home run record. Congratulations to Aaron Judge. I just think it's fucking amazing that Aaron Judge decided not to take the extension, not to take... Oh, he tied it. I'm sorry. Aaron Judge tied the single-season Yankee home record. I know we put an asterisk next to Roger Maris.

We shouldn't put an asterisk next to Babe Ruth? Why? He was playing against fucking plumbers. I mean, it was his error. It is what it is. He played, his fat ass played every position. It is. It is.

It was a drunk softball league. I mean, I don't count anything. Granted, Aaron Judge may be on steroids. Not my place to say. But at the same time, I don't think Babe Ruth was the greatest. Well, I mean, he did hit 60 home runs. That's nothing to take lightly. That's a lot of fucking home runs.

And to this day, a lot of people still don't hit six. It was soft pitch. Soft pitch. Aaron Judge. All right. Has Babe Ruth ever had to get a curveball from someone from Eddins' home country? No. No.

They wouldn't allow people from Edd's home country. Yeah. Into the country. The stadium, let alone the country. Yeah. Yeah, they barely let us in there. He got some. some good old boy that decided to throw a pitch that day.

Yeah. Danny Almonte at Fake 14 would strike out Babe Ruth and... Oh, he would have cooked. He would cook Babe Ruth. I don't count any of Babe Ruth's stats at all. No, you got to count the babe. Don't do that. For what? You got to count of stats. He can't help it. He was funny and drunk.

He can't help it that he was born in 19. You're telling me this man was the best athlete of his time. Yeah. Look at him. He looks like a butcher shop owner. Yeah, that's how they all look back. The cold cuts are seeping out of his skin right now. Yeah. I mean, but they're like...

Look at his pores. But there's some hefty baseball players now. Listen. Yeah, but they're Dominican. A lot of rice and beans, blontings. You know what I'm saying? It's like the baseballs. Well, here's my thing.

The funny, the most ironic shit that they put against Roger Maris and Mickey Mantle on that shit, I think those are the greatest athletes if we put it down. Because granted, Mark McGuire, Barry Bond, Sammy Sosa, Aaron Judge, I don't know if he's on steroids. I'm a Yankee fan. So he's not... I don't think he's not... Steroids. I don't think so.

But Mickey Mantle. was getting drunk every fucking night was on no drugs like no drugs that would help you. Beer. And was going crazy. Roger Maris, same thing. Those records should be held.

Babe Ruth was going against nobody's. Either way, the MVP race is officially wrapped. Aaron Judge will be the MVP this year. Triple Crown winner. I just think it's amazing that he chose to bet on himself and not sign an extension. He won the Kentucky Derby. Yeah, all of that shit.

He won it all. He chose not to take the extension in this summer and gamble and bet on itself and the Yankees are going to have to back up for Brinks trucks to keep this kid in the Bronx because he's going to get paid. Well, that's, I mean, that's what you should do with the Yankees, though. Because the Yankees are known to pay.

Yeah, but Rory, this is like... Steinbunner's son's not... No, but give it up the same way his father did? No, but not that he's not going to because they will. They're going to pay Aaron Judge whatever he wants. But the thing is, the fact that he chose to take that gamble and then had this type of season

is fucking, it's, bro, you can't write, like this is a historical season. You don't take the extension in the summer. You take the gamble and say, no, I'm going to wait till the end of the season, and then you're going to have to pay me.

And then you have this type of season? This is fucking crazy. No, this is crazy. I figured he would have a good year. He would have to play well to get the money he wanted, but this is like a year that we've never even really seen a year like this. This is the greatest season for a Yankee player ever.

Is his 60 more impressive than the Reuters era of Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, and those numbers that they put up? I think so. I think so. It's probably not as exciting. I think his numbers all around are more impressive, I think. I think his numbers all around are more impressive. You know, I get the Barry hit 73, Mark hit 70. But this is all around Aaron Judge, this season that he had, you know, the Yankees being in first place.

if he can cap it with a ring this year this is easily arguably one of the greatest seasons ever for a player do we add the length of the fence at Yankee Stadium into this conversation at all it is variables

there's things you can factor in there's things that I'm a Yankee fan and it's fuck all y'all Aaron Judge to the death but he didn't hit 60 in Yankee Stadium you know what I mean so that's what you got a fact in well how many did he hit in Yankee Stadium I mean he hit a few but he didn't

He didn't hit all 60 in Yanke's Day. I know, I know. I'm joking. And not all in that short-ass right field area either. I just think it's dope that he gambled on the sofa and then turned around. I do too. And I hope the Yankees pay him because I really want Air Force to stay. They have to pay him.

They can't let him leave. It's funny. I can't get mad at the Yankees. We've had some rough seasons and some fun seasons, but they still haven't really gotten us there. They're trying. They're not like the Knicks. The Yankees have been fucking trying. They've been trying to put shit around Judge.

They've been trying to bring, they've been paying stars. We didn't have a good pitch in the last few years. That's why I hope Judge does stay. Like, they've been putting shit around Judge. Yeah. It just hasn't really worked. He is the franchise. He is the Yankee.

Now, he's the captain. This is his team. This is his organization, his franchise. And the Yankees are going to, they're going to make sure that they have him in pinstripes probably for the rest of his career. I am going to get some pushback on most exciting season of a Yankee, though. That's Who had a big season? I could put maybe three Jeter seasons

That were more exciting. No. What was that? The Subway Series year? That was one of the best seasons in Yankee history. This shit that Aaron Judge is doing is, bro, no Yankee has had a season line. I'm talking all just home runs. He's an all around a board.

If it comes to Jeter, I can't talk home runs. Like, Jeter's not the home run hitter like that. I'm saying exciting seasons as a Yankee. No, Jeter has at least two that competes with this. this is maybe three this is this is this season the aaron judge just had is having bro this is one of the best no I was in the I was in bleacher seats I understand yeah no this is one of the best years and the fact that I know I all rise when judge comes to play I rose yeah you stood up yes when the judge came in all rise for the judge yeah all honorable that's fire and when they say that shit

that's fire I'm like damn I want to stand up but I don't know like a pansy I don't want to look like a You got to, man. But the judges up to bat. The judge is up to bat. Yeah, man. I was at stands talking about Aaron. Yeah, you have to. Ew, that's not.

That's nasty. That's nasty. After the game at the bar. Of course. Oh, my God. He's such a stud. Did you see him? Did you see what he walked?

I just, I hope one day my son is half the man Aaron is. Oh, that's so disgusting, man. Pay the kid, man. These numbers are actually, these are. Crazy. Bro, that's what I'm trying to tell you, man. His numbers are fucking insane. Let's get real local.

Who's y'all greatest Yankee that you guys ever watched? Greatest Yankee that ever watched. It would be between Derek Jeter, Don Maddingly. Babe Ruth. It's your birthday. Derek Jeter, Don Mattingly, and... Joe DiMaggio. And probably...

Who? Just the thought of me actually You see a Broadway The original Broadway Joe Not even Broadway Joe from the Jets Oh my God You're Maddingly Jeter and Mariano

Oh yeah Mark All right you stole my answer I was gonna say Jeter or Mariano Rivera was probably Yeah And this was just ironic that This isn't even This was a gift that was supposed to give

To my God brother One of the greatest Yankees Paul O'Neil for sure And he didn't take it in time so I just kept it. Yeah, one of the greatest Yankees, Paulineau, Bernie Williams. There's some great Yankees.

Great Yankee players. But Aaron Judge is, he's on that list. He's up there. He's on that list now. And God damn it, they're going to pay him. Ooh, they're going to pay him. I mean, I love it. Stupid bag.

Chuck Knoblock was, if you talk about it. Best stance I've seen in years. That's crazy. He put his chin on his arm. Yeah, Chuck Roblox. One of the best leadoffs. He was getting on base. Chuck Knoblock

Chuck wouldn't get on base No, I like Chuck Knoblock No, Chuck Knoblock was a good player He's a really good player And don't do that Because we birthed Soriano Alfonso Soriano That was my guy

Second Base E Chiro We, I mean It was gonna sound nasty His best she is was with Seattle I was gonna say Off the my skin I should say

We bought him But he was really He was really good with the Yankees Too he had some good seasons Who was my guy that played right field the other Japanese guy. Matsui. Matsui.

Yeah, Matsui was fired. What did they call it? Didn't they call him Godzilla? Yes. In Japanese, right? Good old New York racism. It's so New York. Love New York racism.

No, but I think he got that name over in Japan. No, he didn't. No. I think so. No. He came to the Bronx and he said Godzilla. No, no. What his face looked like?

Yeah, that's Godzilla. No, no. I think he came over here with that name, man. He said, turn around. Yeah, that's Godzilla. Yo, New York is such a crazy fucking town to come to a play sports man why would you ever want to play here it's fucking crazy these fans are nuts a rod still has to be on that list though yeah one of the best yankees

that we ever saw oh yeah yeah a rod is on that list as well for sure that's that's how crazy the yankees organization really was we took one of the greatest short stops of all time and say yo play third base and you know how nuts that is and he did a great job that was the crazy part that's that's when you knew that Alex Rodriguez was just like one of the best you have He was able to make that transition and didn't look crazy doing it. And as New Yorkers, we hated him. Yeah. It's rough.

That's what I said. Why would you ever want to come here? And every baseball player from a kid will tell you I want to be a Yankee. Edin, come on. Jorge Posada. You have to love him. No. Martinez.

Robinson Canova. Robinson Canova had some really good years. Wait, Edan, was that? Was I joking with you when you were talking about Meg knees? And I said, no, you got Jorge Posada knees? Yeah. Yeah. Jorge Besada had great knees, though

He did A poor man Oh yeah, Yogi Baran Yeah, but they I mean, who they play against? I know I just feel like baseball You got to

If you don't play against Anyone from DR or Cuba I can't really count your stats I can't That's fucked up man They can't help when they were born, bro That's fine Somebody's gonna be saying that about Aaron Judge

40 years from now. What, when he plays against the aliens? Yeah. He never faced it. You never played nobody from Saturn. He's never faced a 200 mile an hour fastball. Like you're like, what? Okay, but everyone was on Earth at that time.

Yeah, but I mean, it's the error. It's the generation. You got to do what you got to dominate your error of your generation. But what if your generation like sucked? I can't really. You can't fault the player. You got to just be like, I'm not false. I just can't put them there.

He played in that generation. He didn't really face any like 102 mile an hour fast. ass balls, you know, I get it. Like, these guys aren't athletes. That's, you can't, watch him out saying Lou Gehrick wasn't an athlete. He was an athlete. I mean, granted, he has a disease named after him, but that's about it. Yeah.

I didn't want to say it. He doesn't that hell of an athlete. What's he most known for? Listen, my first dog growing up was, what did you say? I said, what's he most known for? That's fucked up. His disease. That's fucked up.

But that's ill to have a disease named after you. That's not... Ill disease named after you. I get what you said. Now, but like, depending on the disease, if it's like some nasty... I see what you did. Don't even ask you how.

I get it. No, I already caught it before y'all. Y'all will wait later to what I was saying. But I would like the way I died to be named after me as long as it wasn't like a shitty thing. Like if I got in a car accident... Like, if you died on a jet ski, they were like, yo, young jet ski was crazy. Like, no, if you was...

If, like, you was... If you had a bitch on a jet ski and you died, He was like, oh, he got Roried. I'd be like, oh, I said, ill legacy. It's an ill legacy. You know what? This has been a great episode. We're going to wrap up because this shit is completely going a whole different way right now.

We're naming diseases. Thurman Munson. Munson was my first dog ever in my house. Was he named after Thurman Munson? No, he was. What other Munson would there be? I don't know. That's what I'm asking.

Oh, yeah. No, my first dog was named after month. My dad was a huge thermal monster. So he brought a Jack Russell home and then abandoned me. and the jack muscle. Swag. You got Munson. That was, that's what I said.

You got Munson. You got Munson. Hey, Dad, you ever want to check on your dog? I mean, me? Come check on us, Dad. Dermann Munson ran his plane into a fucking cliff. No one said you got Munsoned. Lou Gehrig, like, come on, you got Lou Gehrig disease.

I still don't even know what Lou Gehrig disease. is to this day. I don't either. Yeah, what is it? I have no idea. Is it immune deficiency? I think, yeah, I think it does attack, like... I don't know. Mickey Mano was the goat. That's all I'm saying. It's a neurodegenerative disease.

We talk about snipers and like that list. Mickey Mano might have created that list. What list? The list. That list. Who is he getting in with? Nothing to do with baseball. We had Maryland Monroe. Every bitch in New York at the time. Mickey Manor or Derek Jeter who had the better date in life?

Here's the difference. It's going to sound really misogynistic. We revere Derek Jeter more because women mattered more. And we knew who he was fucking. Mickey Manor was hitting the best of the best, but it was such a misogynistic time that we didn't know the names of them. Okay. Derek was hitting him when we knew the names.

Derek was taking a cab to Yankee Stadium, a yellow taxi. Yeah? That's gangster. Derek's list is crazy. Who's that model that he was with for? I feel like this probably. Yeah. All of them, just name him.

He had them. Whatever agency. I'm trying to think. Frank Sinatra or Derek Jeter, who could double park in Times Square and not get a ticket first? Look at this list. Derek Jeter. Yeah. Well, there was less parking laws with Frank Sinatra.

See? You can't hold that again. Different time. He dated Adriana Lima? Look at this. So, Jesus. Hannah Davis, who is his wife,

who is beautiful. Mika Kelly. Adriana Lima. Jessica Alba. Scarlett Johansson. Vanessa, uh, fuck Milan.

Manolo. Manolo. How you spend? I don't even know who this is. Jordan, Bruce. She's an actress. Joey Enrique

Laura Duda And we don't even know about all the ones that look better than all these chicks That's the least flattering photo of Mariah Carey they could have chosen I mean these are just the ones that were famous enough to get mentioned Isn't that the Rachel Uchall why do I know that name What did she do? What did Rachel Uchie Tell do? What was it?

Rachel Wali She did something Rachel Uchie Tell did something All right so what we got going on this week? We're out of town again. Yes. Never know where we're going to be. Are we in Turks?

Where are we? No, we're definitely. I wish. We're in North Carolina this Sunday at the underground. Get your tickets now. Yes. Yeah, I think we got to go out of town and do some more shit, work some more. Yeah, we'll be around.

Happy birthday. We're going to celebrate your birthday throughout this week. Oh, thank you, man. Appreciate that. Thank you. No, we're going to take you out. Cool. Me and Edna are going to take you to all the hot spots and El Paso

Texas. Thank you. I appreciate you guys. To wherever we end up. The Giants are playing the Cowboys tonight as we're recording this, so we'll see if the Giants are Go 3-0. I would like them to. The Oakland Raiders are the only one-less team in the NFL, the O and 3. Shocker.

Yeah. I didn't see that happening. Yeah, right. Fuck the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl's over with. We love it. Once they took the Pro Bowl out of Hawaii, what was the point? Yeah. It was a free trip to Hawaii. I think that was the only incentive for... That's the only reason why players were playing. Exactly. All right, well, we'll talk to y'all again this week. We'll be somewhere else in a different city doing different

shit with some of our different friends. And y'all be safe. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. Hey, you fucking tar heels or blue devils or whatever team you like in North Carolina, we'll be in Charlotte. You horny hornets, come out to the underground. October 2nd. Get your tickets at new Rorynmall.com. That's New Rory N Mall, in as in... I know... ...is to the underground. I understand that David Stern took your NBA team

and brought it to New Orleans. No, they're back. They're still Bobcats and Charlotte? No, they're the Charlotte Hornets now. So the bees are back? The Hornets. All right, so what happened to the Bobcats? The Bobcats are no more.

They went to New Orleans. No. There's no more Bobcats in NBA. So who has the guy from Duke that can dunk that's overweight? That's the Pelicans. Okay. So it's Bobcats, Pelicans, and Hornets.

There's no Bobcats in NBA anymore. If I say that one more time. Get your tickets at new Roryin Mall.com. In as an... This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.