New Rory & MAL - Episode 106 | Unrequited Love ft. B. Simone & Megan Brooks

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

Rory & Mal sit down with the hosts of the Know For Sure Podcast on Mal's birthday and tackle the important matters at hand... Mal and B. Simone's (who he only addresses by real name) missed opport...unity at a chance of real love. Listen as Rory gets his Barbara Walters on with B's best friend/co-host/manager Megan Brooks to get the story of how they first met, what went wrong, and what's in store for the future. Megan then hands out some advice about making a marriage work in our current society. Also addressed - B. Simone's viral misstep and how she is handling it, Da Baby's remarks about Megan, how Wild N Out took viral stars and made them respected comedians, + more. Be prepared to hear Mal giggle... which might be a sound unheard anywhere else. Want to learn more about B Simone and Megan Brooks? Follow their podcast - @knowforsurepod on instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, you f***ing tar heels or blue devils or whatever team you like in North Carolina, we'll be in Charlotte. You horny hornets, come out. To the underground. October 2nd. Get your tickets at new Roryin Mall.com.
Starting point is 00:00:20 That's new Rory in Mall. In as in... I know... You're just to the underground. I understand that David Stern took your NBA team and brought it to New Orleans. No, they're back. There's still Bobcats and Charlotte?
Starting point is 00:00:34 No, they're the Charlotte Hornets now. So the bees are back? The Hornets. All right, so what happened to the Bobcats? The Bobcats are no more. They went to New Orleans. No. There's no more Bobcats and NBA.
Starting point is 00:00:46 So who has the guy from Duke that can dunk that's overweight? That's the Pelicans. Okay. So it's Bobcats, Pelicans, and Hornets. There's no Bobcats in NBA anymore. If I say that one more time. Get your tickets at new Roryinmall.com. In as in a...
Starting point is 00:01:03 All right, we are back. We have some special, special guests. Some birthday guests. Well, yes. I would love to think that this was a birthday. Oh, wait. No, you surprised them that it was your birthday. I surprised them.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Braille... Well, no, excuse me. I'm sorry. It's a real friend. It's a real friend. So, B. Simone hit me and said, hey, what are you doing today? And I thought that it was because it was my birthday. I was going to be like, hey, you know, it's my birthday.
Starting point is 00:01:47 But I'm not one of those guys. I was like, hey, working, you know, recording. Yeah. And she was like, oh, where? I was like, oh, in Jersey, come on out. Yeah. So she came out. You're thinking maybe she's trying to set up the surprise.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah, that's what I thought. Like, damn, yeah, no plans tonight if you want to do anything. You know how we roll. We are really, these are really like my homies. If we knew that, we would have never walked in this house. I know that, which is why it's totally fine. No, we're going to make up for tonight. We're going to, ooh, you get ready.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You put your big boy pants on. I'm showing you all of them. So B-Simon and Megan came by. You don't think the pastel fit will do it for the B-Day? They came by, so they're here recording with us. Your outfit is amazing. Thank you. I'm so happy to see y'all.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I'm glad you didn't know it was my birthday, so we didn't have to make a big deal out of it. Yeah, we're making a big deal. So I don't drink, y'all know that, but I'll take a shot with y'all because of my birthday, and I wasn't expecting to see y'all from the distance. Happy birthday. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:39 30th? Cheers. You got to mean it. You got to mean it. Really? You had to do it three times? I think these are for younger birthdays. They ain't the one that needed the chasers.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I know, Jesus. I mean, the chaser definitely helped me out. You know, there's women in Toulom right now, like, guzzling this right now. Oh, my God. What the, the face? There's women down the block. You don't have to go to Toulon. Who?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Who? Who is that? Translate from me, Edna. Oh, okay. He's in Tequila. He conquered Mexico. Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So they gave me a tequila. You too. Oh, well, if, shit. If Mo actually finished. He did. I have to. Come on, Rory. Wall's going to be drunk, drunk.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You guys know that, right? No. He doesn't drink. Uh-oh. I'm like, don't start going off at the mouth. By the end of this episode, I got you. Remember, remember. Be fresh.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Okay. All right, so we are joined by B. Simone. He's going to tell all of hers. No, he's not. So how are you ladies men? It's good seeing y' y'all. How old are you? Today?
Starting point is 00:03:41 45. Or yesterday? Let me guess. No, seriously. 40. Today I'm 41 Shut us Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:47 You know Yeah people age It's weird Yeah That's what happens Every 365 days If she'll leave year Well before we get into that
Starting point is 00:03:55 I was under the impression That you were blocked By B Simone How did she text you To ask what you were doing I was under the impression That there was some tension Between me and no
Starting point is 00:04:05 This is my friend And I was under the impression Maybe she didn't know your birthday Because she deleted it Wait How did you guys meet bitch get some backstory
Starting point is 00:04:15 it's funny you ask that Megan well we met it's funny I think it's funny we met through Megan who's why are you on we met through this bitch we met through Megan
Starting point is 00:04:22 this is how me and B. Simone We're like there's this cool kind of not really there's this cool podcast good let's hear both sides what's the kind of not really okay so I was a big fan to my way because of the other podcast
Starting point is 00:04:34 and I was like dude I was like be like I think I have a good guy that you should talk to Like, have you, have you heard of Maugh from the podcast? She was like, who the fuck is that? Now, you were, you were suggesting this as a good guy you could talk to about maybe getting into podcasting or you guys could collect.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You were suggesting like, this is a good guy. Yeah, this is, I'm like, this would be good for you because he's, he's chill. Which come to find out. Oh, well, you know, we lie on podcasts. Oh, my God. Oh, man. Once I met this, nigger, I was like, code red. More is definitely not as calm and chill.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I would like to hear the full explanation of what she thought mall was. I'm sitting right here. I can hear you. What are you talking about? No, no, seriously. So you told B.
Starting point is 00:05:17 He's cool. I'm like, look, so I show her. He's not broke. I didn't know. She didn't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I didn't know. But I'm like, yo, he's so cool. We were in L.A., I think, at the mall. Yeah, we were. Getting me a new iPhone.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Look at that at the mall. We were. Yeah, we were. Fresh out of back and body works. What was at? See? Look, full circle.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I was like, DM him. I was like, just DM him. I'm not doing him. No, you were like, I'm not going to deal him. I like his pictures. Oh, yeah. That's how we really think that's a tactic.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Oh, she said I remember. And guess what you did? DEMs me. But that's what you, okay, so that's what happened. Yeah. She liked like 20 pictures in a row. Yeah, she did. She did some obnoxious shit.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So I was like, all right. I went like, 2006. I said she playing. Did you, Paul, did you go the funny route? Like, can I help you with something? What did you give it up? Yeah, we might. You didn't delete his DMs,
Starting point is 00:06:05 but you deleted his number? I didn't delete his number. She got to hold on to something. You got to hold on. Just a case she has to expose him to the shade room one day. That's fucked up. Oh my God. I think I said something like, yo, like you playing or like what you doing?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Or don't get in trouble. Something like that. Let's see. Okay. Don't be talking about. Damn. You guys, mind you, this was like 2012. Of course, 2001.
Starting point is 00:06:27 2009 before Instagram even had direct message feature. This is too much. Jesus. We didn't have that much? Yes. Yo, this was my homie, man. We used to speak all the time. We were really friends.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Well, we're skipping a lot of steps from first DM to this is my homie. Yeah. How did that first day while she was in the food court of the mall, where were you? She remembered exactly where she was when she liked your picture. Oh. Oh. What do you think you said to me? Hey, it's more.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Maybe something like you stopped playing. It was stop liking my picks before I start liking yours, L.O.L. Oh. I ain't a lot. You like that, right? They check that. The ladies is jacking at the corner. They jacking that.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I'm not mad at that. I was going in wanting to hate. I'm on board so far. I like it. Yeah, see? And then what she did? Like about 30 more. 30 more.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And I was like, now what? Did you return the favor? Was this pre-money bags? Yeah. No. Actually might have. No, this was money bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:29 This is money bag. So you went crazy with the bags? You went crazy with the likes. Or you did a combo to like let her notes. No, I think we just started having conversations with games after that. It's platonic. Like, it was very like... I didn't even ask a question.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And you just said it's platonic. I literally didn't say one word. You're like, but it's platonic. Nah, I don't remember what happened after that. You're nervous. But I know, I know. Your fucking lip is, wait. Will you turn the air off?
Starting point is 00:07:50 I know we, I know we exchanged numbers. Friends. Not too far after that. We exchanged numbers. No, was same day. Y'all talked all night. What did you later within the DM? Like, yo, I don't check Instagram like that.
Starting point is 00:08:00 What's your number? Were you one of those? Like, well, she got it. Hey, let's meet in the I message. I don't even remember. I don't even remember. I don't even remember as I'm reading it. First link up.
Starting point is 00:08:12 You got cool mall, you got silly mall. You got silly mall. Look at you lying, bro. Look at you lying. I seriously do not remember. I remember certain things, but I don't remember. You know my memory. He was nice.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I was not what? You were nice. Oh, okay, yeah. Okay. I'm always amazed. I remember we had fun. Yeah. I feel like a lot of deflection is happening right now
Starting point is 00:08:36 I'm not getting the full story. Yeah, I'm not. No, we're definitely not getting the full story. We're not, you know. Okay. Was there talks of a second date? Was there talks of like, hey, we're bro-sys? I don't really think when we first linked up, though, it was a date.
Starting point is 00:08:50 How do you define one of those? Yeah. I know what she mean. Ma was never like, can I take you out? Yeah, that's what she means. It was never like a whole. It was just like, hey, I'm in Atlanta. Let's link up.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah. But that can be the same as can I take you up. Yeah. In Atlanta, that's can I take you out. Yeah. Let's link up at who's like. We went on a date. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:07 But I don't know if we did like a second date. Did we? No, we didn't. I don't think we did. Like, we never went out against solo after that. Okay. Once you got in your Uber or your car, what did you say in the group chat? Megan.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I can't say that. Why? Because you didn't get in an Uber or a car by yourself. I don't remember. I remember. Oh, you hear of you. I think she went to. I'm like, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:09:33 That's literally the reason why I'm nervous. I don't remember. It was a while ago. It wasn't that long ago. I know. And memories and all that. COVID, 9-11.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I get it. A lot of things happened. Yeah, the COVID did happen after that. I mean, obviously, we're still friends. You were just talking about you didn't have his number. No, I'm saying, a while ago. Yeah, yeah. Why have his number?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I don't remember. It's a lot of bullshit happening right now. I know. I'm like, what do you mean? Why did you delete his birthday? We got into it about something. Probably he wasn't giving me attention or something probably. But it's just platonic.
Starting point is 00:10:06 like you wouldn't understand that your friend was working. It feels like you're giving. I had a crush on him. Now we're getting somewhere. Now we're getting somewhere. And thank you. Y'all Jack and look. There we go.
Starting point is 00:10:18 All right. Now we can have a full conversation. What was the, what was the exact? I don't remember. What was the exact line or DM or text messages you were like, oh, I like him? I think she, I do remember her saying that she loved. how Maul like their conversation.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah. They had really good conversation and he always picked up we talked a lot. Yeah. And they talk like like real like friends.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yes. And I say that about like the next guy I date I have to be your friend. He has to be more. Oh. No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:55 If he's not like How good over there? Y'all don't understand. No, y'all don't understand how hard I pulled for this relationship. Like I really. Megan was definitely. I really did.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I'm like, let it go. No. That's my home boy. Megan started calling me, like cursing me out. Not like cursing, but like. But I'm like, yo, what the fuck's wrong with you? I set you up nice. Yeah, she did.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Well, then I guess I have to ask more. I want to make this just about you. Everyone here did their part. Yeah. A lot of LOLs, a lot of JKs, a lot of how's your days? Did you eat today's? Right. She had a crush, admittedly.
Starting point is 00:11:24 What went wrong? You know, it just was me. Oh, you know, it was in that. Here comes some actual bullshit. I was in a weird space, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You was going through something. I hate when I'm going through something.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I was working on self. Hey, when I'm going through soul. Niggas is always going to work on self. You know what I mean? It was like I wasn't the best mall yet. You know what I mean? He can't come through for you until he comes through for himself. Yeah, I wasn't the best mall.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I couldn't give her the best mall. Y'all can get away. I'm not going to give her half ass mall. Understand. Well, where do you feel like you are now with yourself? I'm in a very good place now. Is this a dating show now? This is not.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Come on. No, we're just kept. These are just, we're just. It's a change of heart. Do you agree? I agree we're better off as friends. Absolutely. We both just agreed and looked at each other and I.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You guys are full of shit. You want to live with what ifs? Rory! Hey, first of all, hey, hold on. Hey, edit, where I'm at? No, you can't look at man in his eyes. Is it better to love and lost? You let me know.
Starting point is 00:12:17 In the eyes and ask you want to live with what if? Don't do that. You can't look at a man in the eyes and ask no question like that. Listen, man. If you're on your deathbed, I just want to know. No, you know why? Because we haven't seen each other. Yeah, we haven't.
Starting point is 00:12:27 In a long time. This is our first time. We were going to have this conversation. I don't believe. Do you believe in coincidences? I don't. I don't at all. Br, I text him.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I did. She did. She reached out to me. She reached out to me actually Saturday, right? Yeah. When we got back from D.C.? Okay. She told me they was in town and they wanted to, you know, kick.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Anytime I text him all he answers. That's a fact. When he is in Atlanta, he hits me up. That's a fact. So what is the issue? And she sent me vegan breakfast to my hotel. I bought him breakfast and sent it to his hotel. And she didn't tell me that?
Starting point is 00:12:56 And she lived right across the street from the hotel and she didn't want to see me. She was like, no, I don't. And we waved at each other from the balconies. We did. I was like, I'll go on the balcony and wait for you. She was like, nigga, I'm not coming to your hotel. Are you? And I was like, go to your balcony.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And I went to my balcony. I was like, hey. And we wave that together. Your breakfast will be there in 15. This is giving me the plot to loving basketball without any basketball. For sure. Shut up. This is my real friend.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Don't let him get with a flight attendant and try to get married. All right. Step on this now. You would a bitch that's swinging peanuts. Okay. No, this is my real friend. No, you don't remember that. Tokyo said that.
Starting point is 00:13:28 No, I've said that before too. On loving hip hop. That's a meme. And she wasn't my friend. I don't believe in. Real friends. We're really good friends. Are you going to explain your friendship with Maul to this next said gentleman?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Since y'all are so. Yeah. Like what if he gives you the ultimate, it's either me or Ma. Me and Maul don't talk enough for that. If Ma wants to be back in my life, he's more than welcome. Ooh. Are y'all good? Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:13:51 How are you feeling? Y'all good? Make sure the audience is still with us. It's a two-way street. The man needs to lead. So if he wants to talk to me. You deleted his birthday on the calendar. That's definitely a too history.
Starting point is 00:14:01 When's my birthday? This ain't about. Time is a construct. Is it in your time? Yeah, absolutely. Let me see. He believes in reincarnation. He doesn't even know when any of us were born.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You do? I'm like, wait. What just happened? Trying to help you. I don't know. You're like, he's mootist. So I'm like, hold on. Maul, you don't put anything in your calendar.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Please stop. I was trying to see if I had a birthday. Like in the notes? I don't have. Right. Don't whisper that shit. You didn't have. Damn, that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So this is definitely done. It's only going to remain as friends. Yes. I don't believe it. You don't? What you believe, Megan? I don't believe, Megan. I don't believe it. Who's your best friend?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Rory? My best friend in life? Yeah. No, it's not Rory. Jesus. I'm fine with that. No, I mean, I have a close friend, but I wouldn't consider my best friend either. My best friend is like somebody I grew up since I was.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You know what's a fucking best friend either, bro? No, since I was 10 years old. Like, I have a best friend. Oh. Yeah. That's weird. I feel like guys only have, like, one boy. They're like one best friend.
Starting point is 00:15:00 That's it. Yeah, because niggas is, you know, niggas is weird out here. You guys will have a new best friend next week probably. Hell no. Not anymore. Not after 30. After 30 is like,
Starting point is 00:15:09 you got your core circle. It's good. You cut off all the girls that are still going out. It's really good seeing y'all. It's good to see you. He said, you'll cut off all the girls that are still going out. Yeah, no, I understand. I know 30.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Donda. Yeah, I can't. I'm like, none of my friends go out. We'd be in bed by 10. In bed by 10. What? I'm old. And you're 32.
Starting point is 00:15:25 You're 32. 32. Oh, you're a baby. I guess. I know, we're young. Oh. This is a nigga. I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah, my knees hurt. This turn 41 today. My fucking knees hurt. Maul, now that you know your status in her life and that she's looking for another guy. Wait, no, why are we giving up on this? Because I feel like Ma has all the qualities. I don't care. Well, I want to ask.
Starting point is 00:15:47 You actually, we don't have time. The fucking game is coming on, right? This is everything, like, this is all the things that you would want to die, right? Is it? I think. I don't know. I'm asking. I ain't like that, is it, though?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Just because I know your slick-ass mouth, I ain't like that. I'm going to just be honest with you. That is it? I ain't like that. All the things? Most. You peep the laugh lean, right? Yeah, I see.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I just want to make sure I wasn't the only one yet. Yeah, that's important. It was a laugh. Y'all is so, this is my friend, though. We're really friend. Okay, I'm going to ask you the same question. It is. In the event, you start talking to a young lady and she's uncomfortable with this close platonic
Starting point is 00:16:23 relationship that you have. Yeah, the lady. She gives you. the ultimative is either B or me. What are you doing? What are you doing? Like two years ago, it could have been ultimatum. It's hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Mall's never going to settle down. This is all hypothetical. You're not. Why do you listen to the Irishman? Don't listen to him. I'm going to settle now. Of course. When?
Starting point is 00:16:40 I don't know. That I can't answer. It was like the trailed off when. Yeah. That I can't answer. But yeah, eventually, yeah. But no, somebody, if a woman was to be like, yo, I'd be like, first of all, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And I'm not going to never be, not be, not be cool would be. Like, that's not going to happen. Okay, well then for you, what changed from the first date to this is my friend? What was the quality? You were like, yeah, she's a friend. I like him again. Oh, my God. You see how good.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Women are so easy. Julian, is this good? Is this? I'll just feel it. This is great. All right, cool. Edith is good? All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I don't know, man. I don't know. B just, you know. I'm proudish. That's what it is. I think B is, um, I think she wants a relationship and she wants to settle down. But B is also like she got a switch where you piss off one time.
Starting point is 00:17:30 She's like, nigger, I'm out. Oh, my God. How did you feel when you saw her in a relationship? I don't even know if you paid attention at. Not that I didn't pay attention. I knew you obviously were in a relationship, but I wasn't like, I was like, if she's happy. No, not that I didn't give a fuck. No, if she's happy, like, great.
Starting point is 00:17:47 You know what I mean? Like, if she's happy, cool. Did you text her that? Like, yo, I'm just happy. I'm just happy. No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I didn't do that. Niggas is never happy when you're happy. No, no, that's not. Nah, see, don't do that. If B was getting a relationship and she's like, yo, I'm really happy. Mo is mature. I don't want to see her happy if it's not with me. I know you're mature and shit.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's like, no, whatever is good for her. No, I don't want to see that. Like I said, we never had no bad, it wasn't ever no negative bad energy between me and B. So it's like, it's all good. If she's happy, let it be happy. It just sounds like y'all would make a great relationship. We would, but it's like. But it's like.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But too cool. Yeah. It's like. And we don't know each other really in this stage. We're too cool and we don't know each other. We know, no, in this stage? It's like, what are they talking about? That is the biggest oxymour.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. We're way too close, but I know nothing about him. I know nothing about it. Literally, like, this is my friends, but we haven't talked like, like we used to talk. We haven't talked like that. We haven't talked in a while. In the past year.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Like a building of relationship or friendship and we're both two different people. Yeah. So we don't know each other on this level of who we are. Would you be available to explore that at this time? or is there? Mm. First of all, don't lean back,
Starting point is 00:18:58 Mall. What is your name? Okay, I'll sit up. Aiden? Leave that. You so handsome. Stop. Mm.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Well, Maul, now I see the red flags. Because I said he was handsome. Go ahead. Thank you. You can continue with your statement. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:15 so that's why I don't have a birthday in my story. She just calls all my coworkers and friends handsome. In front of my face. I'm right here. I can hear you. So you guys would be interested in being friends Get to know each other in the new phases that you guys are in right now Yeah, I want to know everything be what you've been up to
Starting point is 00:19:31 I want to know everything I first want a podcast y'all killing it number one Like y'all are doing your thing No for sure podcast Check it out on every platform you get your pocket I love that mall and complimenting a podcast Which is audio said y'all look great They do video as well
Starting point is 00:19:46 Y'all do videos I don't know what y'all be saying But that shit is crazy The aesthetic is phenomenal Yeah, no, I watched them. Like, because it's my people. So I got to see what y'all doing. Y'all look great.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I remember me and B spoke about it when she was first. I asked them about it. Like about it. Yeah. And I was like, yo, absolutely. Y' got to do it. Do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Sure. So yeah. So to see where they at now, what y'all, what y'all, what y'all. I love. I love it. Just got to salute it, right? Yeah, I love it. Wiling out had you on a frenzy.
Starting point is 00:20:15 You was everywhere. Not a friend. But I could see you in like that front table at Wiling out, like supporting her. I went, no, I went to, I went to taping a while and out when I was in Atlanta. Okay. Did you sign the NDA that you couldn't be on camera? No, no, I was in the, I was in the audience. Yeah, I was in the audience.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You weren't involved in that cookout segment where they make fun of a camera. Family reunion. Yeah, that's what I was in the audience. Me and Justin. I love Wiling Out. Is Wiling Out coming back? Yeah, we just shot, I just wrapped season 20. Oh, amazing.
Starting point is 00:20:40 19 and 20. I love Wiling Out. Dope. Still working. All could have been there. Yeah. Why do you invite me? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:20:46 We are off that. That segment is over. It's really mine. until tomorrow. Why? We never talk about mall. Why would I feel so strongly about it if it wasn't real?
Starting point is 00:20:56 I don't know. I'm never really wrong about it. We're really good friends, man. I don't know why you're like... I know. That's important. It's important. It really is.
Starting point is 00:21:05 You all right, baby Dee? How you feel? She said, she's dead. She said I said that for the 40th time. No, for real. We are, though. But that is really important. I've never had that with like a relationship
Starting point is 00:21:13 and I'm not ever doing that again. If I date somebody, I need to be their friend and really know them on a platonic level so that I can know if I even like you in a romantic level. Explain the last one that you weren't friends. I'd love to know. The one that you just broke up your last relationship? My ex?
Starting point is 00:21:29 I know nothing about your day. Well, I wasn't friends with him first. I instantly was like, I like you, you like me, let's be together. That is such a beast. I like you, nigga, and you like me, whether you like me or not, and we're together now. Yeah, we were romantic too quick. I could never imagine how that went wrong. I literally was with him and I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:49 if I was not having sex with you I would not ever hang out with you like damn you know like I wouldn't be your friend is that the same for guys like do you care to be like friends with someone now you do younger I always line them up knocking down
Starting point is 00:22:04 I didn't give a fuck if we was friends or not lining them up knock them down just but that's that's men young men that's young men shit that's why when the older guys do it women like you still on that type of shit like what's wrong with you yeah yeah So you got to grow out of that.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Like now, now, no, I don't know. What about you? I was never line him up, knock him down. I'm corny. So, yeah, like, that never worked for me. He's a Kappa. Let me just put that out there for y'all. So we're corny.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Insight on him. Or he's lying. He's a Kappa. He went to college. Okay. You were wild. I kind of went to college. Oh, he was throwing that red dick all over campus.
Starting point is 00:22:40 That red dick was everywhere. You was getting all the pussy. That red dick was all the pussy. I hate the word pussy. I never say red dick. I mean, I was getting all the vagina. Red dick is crazy. That is why.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Stop putting a color on my... Forget it. What color is it? You're right. The same color is my skin. The way everyone else works is how... Red. Okay, so never mind.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Maybe it is pink and red. It's grapefruit. Blue when I'm cold. Oh my God. It's the name of an outcast album. Blue when I'm... Pink and blue. Grapefruit.
Starting point is 00:23:12 That's gross. It's blue when I'm cold. Green when I'm thick. Red when I'm hot. Can order my dick at the hookah spot. What are some off-mite conversations that you've had with them that maybe we should bring to the back? Or specifically would be. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:27 We cannot do this the whole episode. Bea, she's just at the corner of the couch just asking questions, that's all. It's called call back. Don't use my comedy. I think B is a, she's a workaholic. She's a workaholic. Like, she's going, she's going to work. And I think that sometimes that might get in the way of a person.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Oh, he was intimidated by that. Like, maybe, like, maybe. like maybe we made more money. She was working and you wasn't even that type of guy. I love the fact that she was making money. That was just different to me. Yeah, like, oh, shit. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:23:55 What? You got, you got this? You guys split the bill at the hookah spot? No, come on. Because you don't smoke hookah, so I could be like, yo, you ordered the mint. Why are you trying? This is me still. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:05 But I think that B just works so much. She works a lot. And I think that that can affect, I can see how that can affect a relationship. So you just, you just want her to stay home, make babies. No, no, no. Oh, my gosh. Not that. Not that.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Not that. But, you know, she's doing comedy shows, recording while and out, and doing a beauty line, and now a podcast. Yeah. It's a lot. Yeah. It is a lot. It is a lot. Do you feel like it's harder for people to be in the entertainment business and date or someone?
Starting point is 00:24:34 They should date someone like that's an entrepreneur or they should date somebody that's like. I think you can date. I think you need to date somebody that has their own life, has a schedule, has a routine. but also knows how to compromise and make time for each other if y'all want that. Yeah. Yeah. But you need your own life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I'm one of those like you be busy and your work. Because now when we come together, we got a lot of shit to talk about. Right. You can tell me what's going on the year. Right, right. Right. You know what I'm saying. Instead of just having nothing going on.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. Or you in my business. I know. It's great. I'm like they're working it out. It's really weird. Yeah. No. Hypothetically, of course.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You guys are literally right in the blueprint for your life. I love it. That's just, that's just that's, that's, that's, bunch of you in the throat. This is great. I feel like podcasting makes relationships seem like the worst thing on earth. No. What's beautiful about them? I love relationships.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I love love. I do too. It's both. We talk about that. It's duality to everything. And it's not always romantic relationships that are the most beautiful relationships you have in your life. Clearly. Clearly.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah. I know. Y'all. Yeah. Everyone but me on this couch. What about them? I was saying us. That too, but I mean, 20 years here.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah. Platonic. Three year. Four year. She's a very platonic coach. friends. We're going to count two years because one of those years we didn't even talk. Let's talk about that.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And that was another thing. B, stop speaking to me. We're going to talk about this. We have to talk about this. Why? She stopped speaking to me because we had called on the old show and she thought that I was calling her to make fun of her. Oh, I remember this.
Starting point is 00:26:00 At the moment, I was like, we're actually calling to hold you down. That's why I stopped talking to you? Yes. No, that's not why. I don't think that's why. I think you think that's why. Why do you stop talking to me? Why did I stop talking to him?
Starting point is 00:26:11 Shit. Tell me my ear. That was one of the reasons. Like she thought that I would like. No, I feel like that was after. I don't remember why. He pissed me off about something. No, that, no, no.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I did think that was fucked up. I remember that. Because that was during, let me paint the picture for these viewers. Go ahead, Picasso. I'm excited. It's 2020 pandemic. Black Live Matter rallies. Everybody's getting canceled on social media.
Starting point is 00:26:38 It is a frenzy. If you didn't post that Black Square, you are shitty. Yeah, you weren't for the people. You weren't for the people. Influencers, celebrities. Everybody has to be a leader because the world is going to shit. People are dying.
Starting point is 00:26:51 So we should definitely look to celebrities. And all of it, you should definitely, you get what I'm saying? In those moments, yeah. In those moments. Those are the people we need to look at. The darkest year of my life, I am on the top of the world and all of a sudden I'm canceled. I lose so much money.
Starting point is 00:27:05 One month I made a million dollars. The next month my business made 10 grand. I'm on the edge of my seat. Jesus, I am just dragged through the media. Shade room. Hollywood unlocked. Media. B Simone is a playdress.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Be Simone this. Be Simone that. In the media. Oh, yeah. I remember this. Fisome is fake. Be Simone is this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I need my friends. This nigger hits me up like, you see this shit. Let's get you on the show. This is like trying to bring me on the show. So Rory was there. What was the whole point of us calling? I think more really, from my outside looking in, I don't know your actual conversation.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I think mall wanted you to defend yourself in a platform that wasn't going to just show me. But the way he presented it was like it was a joke. And in that moment, I'm like literally depressed. Okay. But we was calling to hold you down. Yeah. Like it was like, you can get your shit off in a safe space. I'm not hearing what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I hear what you saying. Oh. And wherever you were in your mind and your state, you was like depressed. Literally. But I'm telling you where I was. I was called. But how did you approach me with it? Because the way you approached me made it seem like...
Starting point is 00:28:10 I said, yo, are you free? We were going to call you. No, it wasn't like that mall. I said, we were going to call you. We wanted to talk about the situation that's going on right now. But we were going to hold... We was there to hold you down. It felt like a setup.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Oh, hell. She's like, everyone was going on my back. But I even told that in the text message. I was like, yo, we're supporting you. No, because I verbally said that to him. I was like, I think it's fucked up. Like, you called me talking about your recording. Like, you want...
Starting point is 00:28:36 I don't know. It was just a weird place in life. I apologize. I understand where you was at. You wasn't trying to even be like. She was projecting onto you thinking your intentions were bad. For sure. But I don't think they were at all.
Starting point is 00:28:47 My intentions are never bad for people that I thought. And I think even when you didn't call, I don't think we said anything bad on the podcast. All I know is that that was that moment we called you. We were trying to support you through that whole, you know, cancel B-Simon shit, which we thought was the dumbest shit. But the way he called me was like, we're so lit to get, like, we're recording. Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I'm like, I highly doubt Moll said. yo, we're lit. We're recording. But no. She's trying to make me sound. Not lit, but like excited about a record. I was like, what are you talking about? Because I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 00:29:17 We were trying to hold you down and just laugh at the dumb shit. Like, people are so stupid. Why are they trying to cancel you over this dumb shit? Can you say it? You cannot say that. That's why I didn't say it. Absolutely not. Can I read it?
Starting point is 00:29:33 But he has to know. Okay, I'll tell him later. I'll tell him later for sure. I'll tell them later. I don't know why she stopped talking to me. I don't know what I did. Did I do something bad? She just spoiled and I'm just going to leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:29:46 No, it's, no, that's valid. It's not valid. It's not valid. Not to stop talking to someone. Can I read it? No. Let me. No, don't tell Rory.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Megan, text it to me. I'm sweating. Why you put this in a group chat? I'm like, at this point, it's not about this. No. Let me, wait, wait, let me. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I wouldn't know. I need to tell him myself. Yeah. What was that time like climbing back? Ooh. I feel like I just got done climbing, actually. Like I'm still like kind of, you know, still working on my rebrand and my name and all the things that were said about me that weren't true. And then some things that I had to like apologize for comments.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And I feel like, you know, I took remove some people out of my team, built a solid team, a solid foundation. It has a lot to do with that. Like if you don't have the right people in your circle. or your corner, your shit's always going to be fucked up no matter what. If it's public, if it's internal, if it's in your mind, if it's your spirit, like, if you don't have the right people around you,
Starting point is 00:30:47 it's never going to be right. So I think that was the biggest issue, and I figured that out. Outside of eliminating team members on a self-accountability level, what did you change? Slow down. Like, I literally made a million dollars in 30 days, and I would give it back
Starting point is 00:31:03 for the shit that I went through. Like, I was like, if takes me two years, great. If it takes me six years, great. Quick money is not the best money and rushing to do stuff, rushing to put out products, rushing to get money from an audience, could you feel like you're going to miss your moment or your time? If I got something for you is for you. Your time is never going to pass. Like, it's not a rush to put out quality shit. Like, slow down. I feel what you're saying, but that definitely felt like the interview question when they asked what are your weaknesses. And you say, sometimes I think I just work too hard. No. I mean, that's
Starting point is 00:31:36 the only thing that really fucked me up was rushing and not overlooking it through, thinking it through, and trusting the wrong people. Because if I hire you to do something, I expect you to do that. I'm not overlooking your work. My videographer Ashley, if I tell her to do something, I can't watch a
Starting point is 00:31:52 40-minute vlog. I'm just trusting the vlog is dope. I totally understand. If you're my best friend and you're doing this and your job is to make the schedule for, no for sure, and my job is to do the social media, I'm not looking over the schedule. I'm doing the social media. So I expect you to do your job. not overlooking that and hiring the wrong people,
Starting point is 00:32:09 like rushing and hiring the wrong people. Those are the main things that I really, processes and structure and organization. Like, you know, it was, it was none of, ooh shit. This is Basley. I'm still healing. I got to attack my pit bull when I was 15.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I'm still healing. I'm still healing. That's not a fit. It's a dog with teeth. I don't know. The nigga ain't got gums. I'm scared. I'm not even trying to be like political.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Like those are the main things that I learned. Like rush into money. Like quick money is not the best money. I will wait if it's, I don't want the money if it's going to cost me my piece. I went through like the darkest time of my life over some stupid money. Like something that was so fixable. Something that was so fixable.
Starting point is 00:32:57 So literally a 99. I'm not even kidding. A 99 cent mistake. $2.99. cents cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars you know and it could have been fixed what were you about to say though I'm sorry no I was just saying that I think for people who come up in social media like social media stars
Starting point is 00:33:14 they don't know there's no like business class you know what I'm saying like you gotta learn on the fly you gotta learn on the fly we're the first generation to do this shit yeah and then you're you're scared to lose your moment because everything is viral everything is quick but that's the shittiest part about coming up on social media the people that make you can break you in one fucking day. Like, you are somewhat enslaved to that timeline.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah. Because they put you up there. And even the people that put you up there, it can be people that didn't put you up there that take you off it on the same platform. Yep. I just think it's different. It's a different way to learn the business doing it on social media. Like, that's a whole thing that nobody has, like, figured out, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Like, nobody's guiding these social media stars on how to manage their money and make sure they don't do it. But it's fucked up because why I don't. Why aren't we allowed to make mistakes? Right. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Right. Right. You can, like, you should be able to make a mistake and your own people that look like us. Yeah. Yeah. First ones to, oh, cancer you or tell you down. It's like, well, why can't I make a mistake?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah. Why can't I? And then you don't know the full story. Like you said, you put people in charge of certain things in your business. You're not looking at everything. Every single detail. You're trusting that person that you hired to do their job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But you're the star. you're the face so it falls on you. Yeah, for sure. If somebody fucks up at Wells Fargo, the person that fucked up is not putting out a statement. Right. The CEO of Wells Fargo is going to put out the statement. So that's just, there's no difference in what happened with her.
Starting point is 00:34:45 But context doesn't matter on social media. At all. Again, the same way a funny viral sketch can go just by the click of a retweet, some headline that's negative is the exact same retweet. Nobody is interested in context. I've never been on social media. It's like, well, let me really figure out what's going on here. ever.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Myself included when I've been like, yo, can y'all look at what really happened about me? No, because I'm the same person that will just click that shit like, oh, well, that's fucked up. That's fucked up. Yeah. And I have more understanding and grace for that now than I've been through it. Same.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Like, I'm like, I don't know if that whole thing is true. I wasn't there. Yeah. So I don't know. I just have never had the energy. Like, I've never been on my phone and seen some shit that I disagreed with and like type out a whole essay. Like, you fucked up.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Like, I just have never thought. I don't understand people who have that energy to do that. Like that is so fucking weird to me. Those are the people that can create you in a positive way on social media. So there's really like. There's duality and everything. It's like 22 with everything in social media. That's why you have to have more than the internet.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And I pride myself on working hard towards that. Trying to have the internet be a choice, not a fucking slave to it. Would you do another book or you just don't want to do anything in that realm anymore? I absolutely would. I absolutely. The story is legendary. She will. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Like, I have some. I have a lot of shit to say. And I would do it in the right way in a real fucking book, not a workbook that was thrown together in two weeks. The fucked up part of is that people really like the... I loved it. Like, I didn't know I was stealing. Had I known.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I didn't know someone else's book. Yeah, had I known. First of all, it was 80 pages, only two pages. It was two pages, but I'm saying people come up to her. That should not be your response. Yo, you ain't read the other 88? It was me. That was all me.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Those was my boss. I was sampling your voice. She was using it wrong. My lawyer don't kick my ass. Like, man, she can't say this. It's all good. But yeah, you know, so hell yeah, I would, a real book. I've been, you know, thinking of that now.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Like, tell my story, take time, all that rushing shit. Like, throwing shit together. Last minute. You see what the outcome was. When shit finally hits and you've been working forever to get all these opportunities, and then they all come at one time, you feel like you'd be a failure not to take advantage of every single one, but then that's when you get sloppy with the work.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Absolutely. Like, shit, Mall and I have gotten offers for, yo, let's do a TV show, let's do this. I'm like, yeah, this is amazing. No one's ever offered us this. But to do that is going to be a thing, because if we just be like, all right, let's shoot this shit in three months. It's going to be the worst TV show of all time.
Starting point is 00:37:21 We're going to ruin our future of any TV shit. So, yeah, maybe let's look into 2023 about that. Yeah. Yeah. Good for y'all. And just awesome. having a plan. We were talking about that on Mandy and Bridget's podcast,
Starting point is 00:37:32 like knowing what the vision is for, what is the goal? What's the ultimate? Like, what's our, what's our vision for this? And if shit don't line up with that, then it's like, we don't need to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I'm not doing that. Right. Because if you don't know what you ultimately want to do, then you're just doing bullshit. Frivolous, yeah. And it's like, it's just a mess. Yeah. And then you're going to look back and be like, what the fuck was I doing?
Starting point is 00:37:53 What was I doing? Why did I do that? What was I doing? Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, um, our shit got to make sense. It got to be right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And the internet is forever. I look back at shit now. What? What? For example. The stuff I was saying that made me go viral in 2016, I couldn't even say now. Of course not. Like, I would be murdered.
Starting point is 00:38:11 For sure, canceled. Like, the skits that I was posting about random shit. Like, I can't say that stuff now. Yeah. So. Do you guys feel like being on podcasts? We talked about this on the other with Bridget and Mandy. I feel like having a podcast, we want to say so much stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And for us it's harder. I feel like for guys it's not as hard. But for women it's harder. You can't just say anything. Because like Bridget said she was like, they don't want to see women as a villain. A man can be a villain. And they don't really want to see women as villain.
Starting point is 00:38:39 But y'all feel like you filter yourself or like like, you know, even like seriously like, hey, cut that out. We're not going to put that out. Or it's not like, yeah. I do that. But see,
Starting point is 00:38:48 I do that because of who I am in real life. Like, I don't say certain shit about people in real life for many reasons. One, I don't care enough. Two, I probably don't pay enough attention to it. So I never want to sit on my platform and just start spewing shit about people
Starting point is 00:39:03 and saying things that I really don't even... Or just in general, like even your opinion on something. Not people. To the men being a villain role, I feel like on the internet now, you can't double dutch with the villain shit. You either have to go all the way as the villain as a man or you kind of have to be like,
Starting point is 00:39:20 hey, let's edit that out. But if you know you're going to say shit that people are not going to agree. But if you know you're a fan base, it does come down to have a, the fan base outside of social media. You have a fan base that happens to have social media is the difference. Like, our fans know when we make a joke that may be inappropriate
Starting point is 00:39:34 or, you know, out of context. They understand us. They know where we are as human beings and what we actually know. So yes, could we be canceled, quote unquote? Sure. But our core fan base that doesn't live and die off Twitter that's just moving on to the next moment would still be there. I know who we are as people.
Starting point is 00:39:50 That cancel shit is not real. Like, if you have a fan base, if you have a fan base, you'll get random people that are trying to cancel you. They don't even subscribe to you for real. Anyways. They just heard something that you just recently said. Or a clip.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah. And they're trying to cancel you for that. They don't follow anything else that you do. They don't follow anything else that you say. Yeah. They just know that you said this just now or yesterday and they want to cancel you for that. Yeah. So you can't even give that no real energy because it's like, yo, you don't even
Starting point is 00:40:18 fuck with me. You don't know nothing about me. Like you just heard this clip and then decide it you don't like me. Yeah. Like, okay, cool, but you don't even know me. Yeah. Never came to any of my shows. You don't follow me on social media.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You don't support any of my brands, my products. So it's like I don't care that you don't like me. You don't like me anyway. You never did. You don't even know me. But I'm also not one of those people that's like completely fuck cancel culture, all that shit. Because there's fans that I know are actually fans because they'll put in a DM like, like, you've been following you for this, certain things. And you offended me here.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Happily have a conversation with them. Yeah. If I offended you, I'm so, I apologize. As you know who I am and you didn't like that, I will go back and forth in a DM. Yeah. But then that's also too. For sure. But like random people that have never like listened to a single show took a three second clip.
Starting point is 00:41:02 What am I explained to? I'm never going to change your mind already. We had an episode where I spoke about being at a cookout with a girl that I was dating and not knowing that her brother was autistic until I got to the cookout. And I'm sitting right next to them. And some people who during the episode, because we laughed about it. Like, you know, that's a wild way to find out somebody's autistic. Some people laughed about it.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Of course you had your others like, yo, that I was. was fucked up. Just had a show in D.C. A couple walked up to me and Rory. They have an autistic child. They said they was in the car with their child when we spoke about it. And they were dying laughing about it. So you understand?
Starting point is 00:41:36 They knew that we were not trying to be disrespectful. They were trying to be evil. They knew their personality. They know who we are. They know our hearts. They know we're not fucked up people. So they were, they have an autism. It could have been easily for them to be offended.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Offended. Yeah. But they was like, yo, we know that you're not even those type of guys. Like, y'all don't mean no harm to nobody. Yeah. Well, people that are looking to be offended are always. gonna be offended. So I'm like, if you're, if you found a fence in that, you was looking for that anyway. You want to be in so, but I'm, I'm quick on the block. Yeah. Yeah. I just say the joke is bad.
Starting point is 00:42:05 That's like, listen, that just wasn't funny. Like you just, you're just trash at comedy. Not the context and what I'm saying. Right. I'm just bad at making jokes. That's it. There's just not a comedian, guys. A comic. Yeah. Like, have you ever canceled somebody? I am in your mind? Like, I'm not fucking with them. Besides me. No. I was about saying. Hey, deleting a birthday out of a calendar. That's She canceled. She canceled me. Literally, the next year of your life, she canceled.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Okay, can I, can I love you. What? Oh, you know some bullshit's coming. I love me, too, Megan. I love me, too, Megan. I love you too, Megan. I love you, Megan. I'm looking at me.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I'm looking at you, Megan. Look at me, King. In my eyeballs. You know, I love you, right? I'm not saying nothing wrong. Okay. But, so you know I've been fighting for this since 2019. She stopped fighting a long time.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah, you threw the fucking towel, David. No, I'm like, yo, like, yo, like, yeah, we should have more. Like, if we're in New York, I'm like, we should end up mall. And she, so the fact that she's like, for what? I mean, I'm like, oh, okay. You still like this nigga. That is, that is giving like vibes. This is my, why we talk to me.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Be no hot filled by us. She know I love her. She's not over. You know, a held hands? I don't think so. Yes, y'all have a video in my phone right now. We held hands. We held hands for.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah. Yeah. And then you would call. At wild and up. That's the first of all, that's a sick place. See, I don't remember. And that sucks because... How wild are we getting where?
Starting point is 00:43:27 I have to hold her hand. Like, yo, it's getting kind of crazy. Hold on, hold on. No, we've held hands before. In the event that you guys did date and she did season 21 of Wiling Out, and it was public that y'all was dating. When the Wild style comes, are you okay with being some punchlines and some bars? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Like, anytime she step up, they're going to give some mall bars to her. No, but she can write. I know she can't. Yeah, no, she'll hold that down. It's stressing you all. You're asking if I would like be offended on a shot. Oh, man. Like, remember when Safari ran on stage at Wiling Out?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like, would you be one of those? Wait, he ran on, he wasn't a part of the show? No, he was in the crowd. No, Safari was a part of the show. I'm about the same. No, then Chico and them cooked him. That was one of my favorite wild style. He was mind of his business at a table and enjoying his drink.
Starting point is 00:44:16 They killed Carlos and Chico. Oh, my God. Them niggas is crazy. Oh, my God. You have to go back to watch it. You know, they are some of the funnier people. I think I've ever seen in this generation. Who's your favorite comedian?
Starting point is 00:44:28 Of all time? All time? Shit. Or right now who's like... My favorite Instagram comedian? Anybody. My favorite Instagram comedian is Desi. Really?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yeah, that's my name. I fuck with that. That's a funny. Yo, the shit where he was in London. And he was walking around asking if niggas had the pressure? He said, yeah, I got that pressure. Put a tea. Yo, that nigga is funny.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I fuck with Desi, man. That's my nigga. I fuck with it. I like Drewski too, though. Drewski. Drewski is funny. Actually, B put me on a Drewski. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Drewski is so fucking. He's crazy. He's one of those that did what everyone was doing with the Instagram comedian shit. And then you found out like, oh, he's actually funny. Like, he's a really funny person. But you know what it is with Juski? My only, and I don't want to sound like that guy, but my own, the only thing I do not like about Juski is I hate when guys kind of lean on acting like females too much in comedy.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That's the only not that. Does he do that a lot, though? I mean, I know it's part of this thing. He doesn't do it a lot, but those are like some of his. But he makes fun of like, yeah. He's funny when he does it. It's funny. But I'm just like, I don't get painted into that corner, though.
Starting point is 00:45:28 So you have a big issue with Eddie Murphy is what you're saying. No, I love Eddie Murphy. You have a big issue with Martin Lawrence is what you're saying. Damn. No, no, I don't. I don't, but I just, I don't want, because I think Druski is like funny for real. And I don't want him to get painted. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But I just don't want him to get painted in that corner. In that box. Yeah, that's all. I don't think he is. I don't think he's super funny. him and Dezzie B and I love Vina and Jess hilarious
Starting point is 00:45:58 Jess is funny to me Her set is crazy She's good Yeah she's funny She's good Who's your favorite Oh we told it like Social media?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Social media comedians I think y'all named them I don't know like the underground Instagram comedians I know like the big ones He's like I know Eddie Murphy Martin Lawrence Oh no I'm comedy wise
Starting point is 00:46:19 I'm just saying What's comedy like? I go to the comedy comedy seller to this day. Yeah, yeah. But IG comedians, I've never really liked a lot of that shit. That's why I think Drusky is so talented because he made me a believer. He made it different.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I'm old and white. Give me some Louis C.K. and I'm good to go. You're not old.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You're 32. You're not old and white. 32. You're just age fast. That's all. It's true. But you're like actually a comedian. What type of stand-up do you like?
Starting point is 00:46:46 I do stand-up? Like, who do I watch? Yeah. I don't have anybody specific that I like grew up watching. I'm not going to lie. Martin took you under his wing though. That's a big co-sign. He did.
Starting point is 00:47:00 The Mar-N-Lorence co-sign is huge. We were at his house a couple months ago and we were like, we're really like just pulled up on this nigga. Yeah. Like that was crazy. That's fire. He gave me an opportunity. He believed in me and he actually took the time to watch my set. Like he would come off stage, go sit and watch me on the screen.
Starting point is 00:47:16 That's fire. Yeah. Because he's one of them. He's one of them. I feel like Lauren Lawrence. Lawrence does not get the. of respect and like well because he had he when he was super hot he kind of had some you know issues away from like you know what I mean behind the scenes that kind of like put that out quick and then he
Starting point is 00:47:33 had to kind of fight back from that and by that time he was I hate saying it but he was a little older yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's still him yeah yeah it's still deaf comedy jam like that's that's still selling out arenas absolutely like that's crazy no he's like he's a legend he's his legacy is cemented yeah it's just that when he was super hot with the Martin show the shit that him and Tisha Campbell had which I'm glad to see that they worked through
Starting point is 00:47:57 for the 30th anniversary yeah like you know what I'm saying so that was like kind of that ended that and then you know alleged drug use and those other shit that happened you know it was just a lot of other shit
Starting point is 00:48:07 that happened around in the media and I think that Martin's one of them niggas like all right fuck y'all and he just kind of just like where do you think he doesn't get his respect stand-up wise I just feel like anything anything with sketch TV movies
Starting point is 00:48:19 I think Martin gets respect for sure we still debate Which sitcom is funny You gotta think that the deaf comedy era was What's your best five minutes? Whereas Comedy before and after that
Starting point is 00:48:32 Was where's your hour special? Literally. So he was doing the quick hit shit Because obviously why would you not take that opportunity It's the hottest shit moving. And then he moved into movies And then obviously had the stroke and all that shit So yeah Martin's career just had weird turns there
Starting point is 00:48:45 I don't think he saw his potential in stand-up Yeah Because even that run tell that movie I don't know I think it was just Martin wasn't in stand-up mode at that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a legendary host, though.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like, as far as your host, like, who does it better than her. He had, he, death comedy jam was his. Like, he made it what it is. And then also, after I'm the best from Def Comedy Jam, then I do a movie with Will Smith. I don't know if I'm running to do my hour special. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Like, facts. I think, I think I'm cool. If I don't have to go on the road and do all this work, I don't need to do that. I'm making movies. Yeah. Big mama's house. Shit is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:49:18 What? But I think what's interesting, too, about, about B though when we're on the road is that people see her in that like as a stand-up comedian and they are like oh you're actually funny like you like being funny is one thing being able to do a set on stage is completely different I have so much respect for stand-up comedy so many of our listeners are like yo mom Roy should do stand-up I'm like shut the fuck up no one shouldn't you know how hard that is that is the most difficult art form ever but the funny shit is our live show is kind of like that yeah that's how it is in and out yeah it's in and out
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, in and out. It's timing. Once I see Rory going a certain way, I know where to, you know what I mean, trail and come off of his energy and what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, damn, like, okay, we,
Starting point is 00:50:02 this is low-key turning into like, I guess, common. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But sitting up there by yourself. The shit is different. To do a whole set. Every time, I'd be like, I am a licensed cosmetologist. I can do, I can do hair.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I do not have to get up there, please. And when it's with, like, new audiences, like everyone knows when our listenership, I am a volume guy. I'll say a bunch of jokes. I don't care if they hit or not. I'm going to keep shooting you jokes. If they fail,
Starting point is 00:50:29 that's just kind of part of what our thing is. So in the live shows, I'll just do a joke. They'll boo it. And that's just part of our crew of, yeah. People that don't know me, that takes the life out of you. When you hit a joke and nobody lives.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It's different when it's our fan base. So these live shows, when they're like, you guys can be stand-up comedies. Like, no, y'all like us. Yeah, they already know it. They already know us. If I tried to.
Starting point is 00:50:49 If I tried to. do this shit in front of people that don't know me. That would be the most silent fucking room of all time. Yeah. They have to know you. They have to kind of know you. It's way fucking. So let me pivot. I want to ask you a question that we was talking about earlier. And obviously Meg, you're married, so this is
Starting point is 00:51:04 like pre-marriage. Have you ever introduced a guy you were dating or with at the time to a guy that you would potentially fuck with? Like, that was like your friend? Damn. Like, hey, this is So have you ever introduced anyone to mall? No, she's never. She's never. She's never. has no.
Starting point is 00:51:21 No. Shut up. Mall's like, she know better. See, some jokes don't hit. Meg, I didn't say that. I would if we were in the same room. You would what? Oops.
Starting point is 00:51:30 See? What she said? She would? I said if we were in the same room? Of course. Why not? I'm not tripping. I wish you would.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah, no, I'm not tripping. I'll say what's up. But, Maul, have you ever introduced her to somebody that you would potentially sleep with? No. Would you? No. Exactly. No.
Starting point is 00:51:48 This isn't as platonic as we once thought it was. Exactly. What is that comedy thing? Exactly. Would you introduce you into a girl you were sleeping with? Like if we were out? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah. How would you, give me the intro. Yo, this is my friend B. This is my own. This is whoever. Okay. All right. What would you say to whoever?
Starting point is 00:52:05 Would you say this is my friend? Like, introduce her as your friend? The girl that I'm currently sleeping with? Yeah. I mean, if it's not like my girlfriend, I would just say this is my friend, like, yeah. Oh, I would be. Gotcha. I would know if he'd be introduced her that.
Starting point is 00:52:17 What if later on y'all get back to the spot and she's like, y'all have, you know, Y'all had some weird energy, you and your friend, B. What would you say then? Are you reading that wrong? Not you're reading it wrong. You got to, are, like, are you reading that wrong. Guys are liars, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:30 You read that all wrong. You read that all wrong. You don't even understand our energy with each other. Like, that's why you're saying that. It's so cool. Yeah, we're so cool. Men are the master manipulators. Like, they will literally make you think you crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Your audience, y'all good? Yeah. Okay. All right. Now, women can manipulate, too. It's not just. I make you manipulate 100% but that like, no, you didn't pick up on that. But they made you think you're crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah. I felt it. Worst, worst manipulation, both of you. This is bad. It's your birthday. I'm about to tell y'all where the 92 bricks went. I see why, I see it. Hey, hey, I see why Norrie.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Norie is good, Roe. Norrie is good. I get it now. You put all this shit on the table. No, he got. You know, he is shot to that. Nah, nigger. Was it FedEx?
Starting point is 00:53:27 Was it UPS? Which was it? Who shit. This is great. U.S.PS? Okay. All right. We back.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. Okay. So you guys think men are the biggest manipulators. I do know. What's the biggest manipulation that y'all fell for? I was manipulated by a woman, so. Ooh. She licked that cat from the back.
Starting point is 00:53:47 It was not. Oh. What she did, B? That was platonic. Oh, okay, my back. So was Maw. Never mind. It was business.
Starting point is 00:53:58 My bad. My bad. My bad. I'm sorry. What the fuck? We're going to have to end this podcast very soon. No. We just didn't start it.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I feel like we just got here. I feel like we just got here. Yeah, I bet. I don't do that. Yeah, I bet. Okay. I think guys are manipulative in that moment. Like you said, like, no, you were reading too much into that.
Starting point is 00:54:17 That's not what it was. It's like, I'm not tripping. I know what I saw. I know that. Your hand was on the small of her back. Yeah. Oh. The small.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Don't touch. Isn't that what it's called? Yeah. Well, a waitress is coming. I didn't want you to get hit, so I just had to move you. You wouldn't touch her shoulder. Yeah, it's like shoulder. But my hands is down here, though.
Starting point is 00:54:34 No. Like with timing to get up to the shoulder would just be. Sir. So I just got to. Don't try to. Manipulation. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:54:40 You guys are great that. No, no. Nothing. Logic. Manipulation. Even that. I'm like, am I not? No.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Seriously. Am I crazy? Am I crazy? I'm going to be emotional. I'm not being emotional. I'm not being logical. No. That was, they're fucking.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Okay, but this was manipulation because I asked a personal story and she just told me some shit that meant. No, I- You manipulated us just now. No, I didn't. I gave a mature response scenario. Got you. To the question and any logical, mature adult would be able to read. Have you ever admitted to your husband that you manipulated him at any point in the relationship?
Starting point is 00:55:17 No, I've said sorry. About what? About being manipulative. I've never been like, yo, I was manipulating you. But if he was like, yo, I feel like that was manipulation. Can I get, you're sorry? Let me get your apology bag. Me?
Starting point is 00:55:29 I'm a good appal. I apologize. Women are so bad at apologize. I'm not. I'm pretty good apologies. You want chicken of steak. Bitch, I want an apology. No, I'm a, I'm a words person.
Starting point is 00:55:40 So I'll type out a long, like, hey, like, I want to apologize. Yeah, but we ain't reading all that. I hate me, man. Why do you do that? So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Meg, let me ask you. So you text your husband and apology? Sometimes I have.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Sometimes I have. Sometimes I've come to me. like, yo, you got a minute? Yeah. And if he's like calm and we're in a calm place, I'm like, I want to apologize. I shouldn't have said that. Yeah. I shouldn't have reacted that way.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I was being emotional. Yeah. But for me, I feel like I can write out my feelings better where it makes sense. Sometimes if I'm in person, I'm too emotional. The older I've got. So you're a poet. People take tone in weird ways. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:16 No, writing out is actually a good strategy. But I will say, if my girl ever said, yo, let me talk to you real quick. I think I'd be getting manipulated. Yo, let me talk to you real quick. in the living room? First of all, let me talk to you real quick. It never ends up good.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yo, let me talk to you real quick. Jesus. It's never quick. It's never quick. It's never good. And it's like we have more issues and problems now. Yeah. Hey, come here real quick.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yeah, I don't like it. Let me holl at you. I don't like that. Let me holl at you. Woo. What did I do? The let me holl at you is crazy. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:56:43 It's just like, let me highlight you? Yeah. It's like you don't. Yeah. No. We're beefing. You don't like me. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah. You're like, let me highlight you one quick. It's like you're in trouble. What was all that? Like, oh, the questions? What was that about? I mean, you got to be like, hey, you got to manipulate some conversation. I just recently found out, I just recently found out that if y'all are, if a woman and a guy, like, kind of not really speaking at the moment.
Starting point is 00:57:09 If the guy texts the girl, hey, y'all don't like that. Hey. What are you talking about? Hey. How should I start a conversation? Like, how did you talk to you in a year and you talk about hey? for sure. Well, he didn't put a time.
Starting point is 00:57:22 That sounded personal. Maybe a week. Two weeks. I haven't talked to you in a week. You said, hey. And we talk every day. We used to talk every day. You do shit like that, though, anyways.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Here we go. Get into it now. See, see this. Yeah. We'll do it themselves. And we'll be back after word from our sponsors. We have no sponsors. No, shit.
Starting point is 00:57:43 We'll just be back. Let me tell you what all would do. Better help. Let me tell you what we'll do. Why are you put my business out? McDonald's. You will, we will, we have, we have, when I have talked for six months,
Starting point is 00:57:52 and this thing will be like, I'm in Atlanta, what's a good place to get some vegan food? What the fuck are we talking about? Because you're my friend. Yo, Ma is so ill at saying y'all in your city. I ain't talked to you in six months, and you asking me about vegan food?
Starting point is 00:58:06 Wait, hold on. For sure. Are you vegan? I'm vegetarian. Oh, yeah. I'm pescatarian. But she knows everybody. I was hoping she wasn't because then mall is a sick.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah, what's the best vegan spot to somebody eat meat? And she put me on to a fire vegan. It came back. It was like, I'm back in Atlanta that one place. Hi, how are you? Ma, do you think that's a cooler way to say, yo, I'm in yesterday? No, because he really wants the vegan food. He don't care.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But he has to let you know the God is in town. Yeah. Come on, you know, I'm here. But no, you know what it is? Honestly, you know what it is? Honestly, I just feel like with me and B, she know me. So, like, that's my way of saying, that yet. That's my way of saying, like, yo, like, I'm back in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Like, yo, what's up? Well, I need some of that food. What's up? Is that your way of inviting her to get vegan food? I knew she wasn't there. The last time I was there, I knew she wasn't there. I knew she wasn't in town. I talked to this thing in six months.
Starting point is 00:59:00 He asked me about vegan food, so y'all haven't talked in six months. I mean, it was a while. A while? Last time we spoke. When the last time? So you hit her with, where's the best vegan spot? I'm in Atlanta. I said, hey, I'm in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I was like. It was a good breakfast spot. After six months, that's what you do? Well, what should you have said? Hey, how are you? Should I have wished to Rosh Hashanah? I don't know what's the fuck you? Ashoshana.
Starting point is 00:59:21 It's a Jewish house. Isn't it today? Yeah, it's why traffic was light. Is today? Yeah. Is it always your birthday? I don't know if it always falls on my girl. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I'm not. Okay, so we may. I'm Irish Catholic, ma'am. They killed my savior. He's 3% Jewish. This because he's white, you're Jewish. He's 3%? What?
Starting point is 00:59:39 They killed my. They killed my savior. Put him on a cross. Jesus. He's like, what if he was like, I'm Baptist? No, he's 3% Jewish. I found out on 23% Jewish. me, yes, same 3% Jewish.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Jewish by blood, not religion. I don't know what blood that was. No, he's not sex. Anyways, we will be in Atlanta, I think, at some point. Maybe we do some Patreon content, maybe do like a second thing. Are you in town November 13th? Let me see. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Megan, are y'all in town November 13? Yeah, you know, I know. November 13th. That would be fired. That would be dope, actually. We're in Orlando. Can you guys come? Can you stay till the 14th?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Come the 12th. No, because we're out of town then too. Jesus. The 14th, y'all are back. It's not meant to be on tour. No, it's not meant to be. Okay, in the event that we end up in Atlanta at some point, can we set up some type of Patreon second date, third date, fourth day,
Starting point is 01:00:36 whatever date y'all are on in this entire thing? It can't just be me anymore. Why are you looking at? Oh, no, we'll be at the other table. We can coach them. We can coach them. This entire crew will all be. It'll be the restaurant like this.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You know I don't cook, motherfucker. Talk about beef. should cook for me. I would be in that kitchen. That would be sweat in the pot. I think that would be great. I'd be like, oh, my God. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:00:57 We're not going to a restaurant. We're going to your crib and you're cooking. She has to cook. She, well, her condos under construction. She's under construction. We can eat on the crate. No, it's literally like, not a kitchen.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Okay. It's being related. But we can't find a place. We'll get like a place, like an Airbnb or something. Okay. And you'll cook? Vegan? We're going to do a dinner party?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yes, subscribe. This is going to be great. This is going to be great. How hard is it to cook? Wait, wait, wait. What do you want me to cook? Lamb chops. No, be realistic.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Seriously. Some fried. I want some fried oyster mushrooms. Okay, Mom. You can't. Vegan. Wait. Vegans can eat oysters?
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yes. No, fresh mushrooms. The mushroom mushrooms. They're just called oil. They're not oysters. They're called oyster. Can you? Can you?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Okay. I can. Okay. She's about to make you the worst. Alfredo that you ever have you. Can you eat spaghetti with impossible meat? You know, she's such a nigga. Yo, what's wrong?
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yeah, what's wrong with you? With some onions. You know the Alfredo dish you're about to get. Oh, my God. No, yes, I can do spaghetti with impossible meat. And then Megan can make real food. Megan, you get that bitch being there making jalapidio popers and stuffed bell peppers. I'll make some video.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I bet. That's a bet. So we are. I miss some video. That's going to be funny. That's going to be. Okay, but y'all are going to be in like the. candlelight dinner on that side of the Airbnb.
Starting point is 01:02:20 The rest of us are going to be on this side. Why are y'all trying to hook us up? That's sick. You're trying. It's like me. I love them so much. This is my niggum, man. This is my dog.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I don't care. We just go meet friends forever. Fuck y'all. You're annoying. I'm just, I'm not on you. You smell good. Anytime a girl says you're annoying. That must mean you're annoying.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Yeah. You're annoying because she loves you. Just slap his shoulder real quick again. Come on. That's my dog. That's my dog. How many, how many females are you friends with like this? Oh, that's a good question. Probably quite a few. No, not many, no.
Starting point is 01:03:02 No. Are you a serial platonic friendship? Like, are you the homeboy? Are you the Jeffrey Dahmer? Like the go-to-meal. No, no, no, no. But I do like... Platonitism?
Starting point is 01:03:12 No, but the thing is, if I've dated a woman, we don't... But we spoke about this, I don't usually end on bad terms. Like, we don't... It's not a thing like if they seem to that, fuck that, nigga. It's not never really like that. Because you never really get to know somebody. That's not true. That's a cheat code.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That's not true. I hate people like you. I hate that. And you try to project your dating history onto me. Okay. She projected onto you, so let's do it. Let's get to do it. I just hate that.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Your experiences are not mine. But I have admitted that I project all my problems on everybody. Exactly. So you can't do that to me. Absolutely. I have admitted plenty of times. That you don't really get to know people? No, I get to know people.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Oh, okay. I get to know people. Do people get to know you? Right. What's that right about? You don't get to us. You know, all right, the best example, Maul reminds me of that...
Starting point is 01:03:55 Tommy for Martin, I know. That was funny. As that couple that has the long-distance relationship that, like, love each other. And it's like, no, you guys anticipate you're going to see each other for two months. You spend three days together. It's the greatest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Then you go 3,000 miles across the country and you don't have to really deal with each other. Mall does that with everybody. So he never really gets to know. You can't be a shithead because no one would really get to know you. Yeah. They only know the good things
Starting point is 01:04:21 about you. Whereas I do the dumb shit where I just, I just dump my entire life onto somebody and they're like, wow, you're a terrible person. I'm like, I know. But there aren't a lot of negative things about me. Is it just not? But how do you, how do you know that? That's something, what do you mean a really shitty person would say? But if nobody really gets to know you. The only consistent thing that women say is negative about me is that they say I'm too nonchalant. For sure. That's like the only thing. I feel like that was part of why. you guys stopped. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Part of why you were frustrated with him. For sure. The nonchalant. But even like today, like we wouldn't be here if I didn't hit him up. Or if we weren't in New York working. Well, no, you know I was in New York? Yeah. But I'm saying like even today.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I'm like, what you doing? He's like, nothing about to shoot. I'm like, can I pull up? He's like, yeah. I'm like, we'll say that. He said hey to you and you got mad. When? No, that wasn't her.
Starting point is 01:05:17 No, that was a long time. It wasn't her. I didn't say her. Oh, when I was in Atlanta. Yeah, in Atlanta. But I'm saying, like, he's very nonchalant. Like, of course. That's like the one negative thing.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Like, yo, you're too nonchalant. I don't know if you really like me or not. Okay. Well, what will make you be less? Will you compromise? Will you be less nonchalant? Yes. For the right one.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah, but I'm just naturally a laid back person, though. Yeah. Which I feel like that's one of the reasons why I thought that he would be a good match for me because she isn't. I'm not like very, you know, vibrant personality. She's very, you know, and he's very calm and kind of just. But maybe you need somebody laid back. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Too laid back people. I don't know that's going to work. Like, you're worrying. Yeah. You need that one person that's like, you know, like we just got him to take two shots. Right. It's my birthday. Well?
Starting point is 01:06:03 If it wasn't my birthday, I wouldn't have taken shots. I don't know that, though. I wouldn't. So the only fault in your entire life is that you're too not so. That's not, no, no, that's not the only fault. I'm saying, in dating. The main thing. That's like the one component that always comes, gets brought up.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Okay. So now that you know that that's a thing for her. Megan. I'm just. Hypothetically. Both of you? What are y'all got going on? Hypothetically, now that you know that that's a thing for her, would you-
Starting point is 01:06:27 You have to answer this long. Okay, thank you. Now that I know that's a thing for B. Now that you have to answer this. Now that you know this is a thing for her. We've already agreed. Would you- That being friends is the best option.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Would you be less nonchalant with her? B knows how I feel about her. Well, do tell. She knows that. We've spoken. We never spoke about that. Tell me again. We never spoke about that?
Starting point is 01:06:54 No. Yes, we have. What you say? I told I said, yo, I like you. We're cool. We get along great. We have great conversations. Guys always got to follow up with we cool.
Starting point is 01:07:02 We're cool. We're cool. No, I'm just saying we get along great. We have great conversations. Did you say, you know, I feel like we've known each other forever? I've never told her that, no. But I said that we get along, but it just, I don't know. It just bad time.
Starting point is 01:07:15 We're friends. He doesn't like me. That's not. Why would you say that? She looks upset She's full of shit She's what she is No, that felt like a real cry
Starting point is 01:07:25 She's full of shit I know her I think she's actually Trying to block her feelings With sarcasm and jokes That's what I think She had a whole First of all
Starting point is 01:07:32 First of all First of all she had a whole She had a whole boyfriend And was not speaking to me The whole time Now we're gonna get to it And we were friends And we were friends
Starting point is 01:07:39 And she would not speak to me Did you choose to purposely Not talk to more while you in this last relationship I cut off everybody Because I was just in love See? Well why do you feel like
Starting point is 01:07:48 You need to do that And women do that a lot Y'all get a new nigger Yeah, boyfriend and y'all don't speak to nobody. Yeah, because y'all's ego and pride being like... Yeah, and of the opposite sex, you have to be careful with that. Like, when you're in a serious relationship? You can have, you can have platonic relationship?
Starting point is 01:07:59 No, he cannot. If a girl does not have male friends, I think she's a fucking weirdo, and I'm like, nothing to do with her. No, I have male friends, but not to the extent of how we are. No, I know what you're saying. Not how we are when I'm single. I can't be, like, talking to my homeboy at midnight if I'm in a relationship. That's not just, that's just not appropriate. Why?
Starting point is 01:08:20 What are we talking about? You would feel cool. My bitch ain't talking to no nigger at midnight. I mean, you should put that out there. That's not happening. Wait, but what is the time of day matter if y'all are just... You're not talking to no... My girl's not talking to no nigga at midnight.
Starting point is 01:08:30 What the fuck are y'all talking about at midnight? What are you talking about at 1 p.m? I don't know. Good luck. You're a fucking friend. No. You relax. Handicapped.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Handicat man, relax. That's what you do. Hitchhiking. You fucking calm. You relax. No, but seriously, like, no. You're not talking to... So you would be totally fine with your girl getting a call.
Starting point is 01:08:50 from a guy. At 2 a.m. At her tackling with him like. Yeah, you keep and you keep changing the scenario. Okay, midnight. Okay, midnight. Okay, midnight. Two a two am. A. A.m. call from a nigger. Okay. It's crazy. It gives me anxiety. Especially if you're by your nigger. It's like, what does this nigga want?
Starting point is 01:09:06 That, hey, I'm on your speaker. I'm in my niggas. Okay. I've called a purely platonic woman at 2 a.m. before that's been in a relationship and it's been okay. What are you all talking about? Maybe I ran into somebody something funny. Like the same thing you would do with your male friend if you did. Like that's an actual friend. What would be the difference? No, but did she have a boyfriend?
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah. Who I know and put on speaker and we was laughing. Okay, that's different. You know him. You know him. That's different. Oh, wait, y'all don't know y'all significant to others. Friends like that?
Starting point is 01:09:34 Oh, see? Right, right, right, right. Y'all ain't got it like me then. I don't know. He's like, you're not emotionally returning. Right, right. No, you definitely have to have a relationship with you. But what is the issue with the time of that?
Starting point is 01:09:44 I think there's a certain time, like, that's appropriate. But if that's a friend, now you're putting a weird. Your husband couldn't receive a call from a potonic woman at 2 a.m. I mean, he could. But they've been married for 12 years. Like a new friend at 2 a.m., that's weird. Even an old friend at 2 a. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Don't call, no, don't call my house at 2 a. Yeah. See? Yeah. But you feel like the friend would have a reason to call. Unless it's like an emergency, then don't call. Like, that's just weird. I just am like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:13 With the emergency. Yeah, yeah. If it's an emergency, yeah. But if it's just like, I was just, you know, chilling, thinking about what? Or they have a relationship. If I, like, if I was dating somebody, or my ex or whatever, my ex would have had to have had a relationship with mall for him to be calling me at 2 a.m. Okay. Can his male friends call at 2 a.m.?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah. Yes. Because I don't think. But if that's an actual friend, why would that matter? Because there's a, there's a chance that y'all could fuck. In a woman's mind. Yeah. I mean, partners are human.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Which is fine. I've not trusted a partner. I don't trust her. And there has to be boundaries at the end of the day. Rapey? If she's calling at 2 a.m. But you know that pussy get moist at 2 a.m. Like literally. That pussy wet.
Starting point is 01:10:58 At 2 a.m? That pussy wet. He's drunk. At 2 a.m.? At 2 a.m.? That pussy warm is a motherfucker at 2 a.m. We're not doing that. We're not going to act like... After the chicken saute and say less, it's right to... You don't have some wine.
Starting point is 01:11:10 You don't have some wine. You don't have some wine. You don't see something funny. Now you want to call me. Don't call me. Like what you doing? Yeah, what I'm doing. Now, I don't want to sound too aggressive. If it's someone that I've had. in mind that y'all a little too, y'all be doing too much LOLs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Can't call me at 2 a.m. type shit. I'm saying the one that's actually a friend. I don't think there's an issue with time. If you call at 4 a.m. If you're actually a friend, then I would know her. Right. That's what I'm talking about. If she's ugly, she could call me at 2 a.m.
Starting point is 01:11:38 For shiggy. Yeah. And how what's Brenda doing? If she ugly, she can hit my phone at 2 a.m. If she bad. Tell Bradd not saying, what's up, girl? But the status, but according to your girl, the status of if she's ugly or not is how much she likes her.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Because her best friend is that hottest bitch on earth until she don't like her no more. So you can't really say. No. No. But we know the ones that look good. We know the women that look good. If she called it 2 a.m. Hey, that's just, uh, Cheryl.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Yeah. Like if Barbara called me at 2 a.m., Barbara. Barbara called me at 2 a.m. ain't nobody tripping. But then. But if A.E.C. called me at 2 a.m., we still cut them. Yeah. You ever get offended.
Starting point is 01:12:19 You ever get offended when your girl tries to guess your type? Right. Like, why do you like her someone? That's offensive. Why do you like Barbara? I don't look like this bitch. But those are the women that know the most about your man. Man.
Starting point is 01:12:31 The one that he be, that's your homie, like your home girl? You guys were just championing being platonic. And now of a sudden the home girl is a problem. You're the home girl. No, I'm saying that you guys be wanting to be with the home girl. Yeah. Really, like that's really who you feel safe with. You feel safe with her.
Starting point is 01:12:49 But you don't want to fuck with your home girl. You fucking with some other girl. That don't even know you. That don't really know you or like you, really like that. But you'll go to your home girl and tell all your problems. This is what I'm going through. You vent to her. And it's like, why are you not pursuing a relationship with her?
Starting point is 01:13:07 What type of weak, lush do you think I am that I want to dump my problems on her and then fuck her? Like, that's such a weird concept. Yes, no, I can confine into this woman. It does not mean I want to beat. You're my therapist. Oh, you feel like you know me. But you want to be in a relationship with a girl that you don't talk to like that? Would I want to be, wait, say that again?
Starting point is 01:13:27 You want to be in a relationship with a girl that, okay, so something exciting happens in your day, right? You calling your girl first or your home girl? My girl. But there could be certain problems within a relationship that I shouldn't go to my girl first, and I may want to go to my home girl so I don't say the wrong thing in the moment to my girl. But you feel safe with your home girl. That's the same way I don't think it's weird when, I mean, don't talk about too much of our relationship to your homeboy.
Starting point is 01:13:53 But yeah, go talk to another male brain before you do some crazy woman shit to me. That's a good perspective. Get your homeboy to calm you the fuck down and say, don't do that. And I do the same thing with home girls. No, I'm not jacking that. I'm not jacking my girl calling another nigga getting advice about how to talk about me. Okay, but you strictly botanic with her. So what's the problem?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Don't tame my pussy. That's my pussy. Let her come at me crazy. So I could tame her. We gave him to. He said, oh, my. I'm just,
Starting point is 01:14:22 just think about that. Yo, call your male friend. No, call your male friend so you could be like, yo, I'm out the curse this nigga. He's like, no, I don't do that. Like calming her down?
Starting point is 01:14:32 How are you taming my pussy? Ma, that shit is cute for the first year. When you in the 12 year shit she in, yeah, everyone calm the fuck down and let's talk as adults. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That whole tame the pussy shit is cute
Starting point is 01:14:42 for a few years. But I feel like you, but if you married for 12 years, and Megan, you can correct me from wrong. If you married for 12 years, y'all know each other so well y'all synchronized yeah y'all so synchronized with each other they just told us women change every year and we don't change at all so so you don't feel like you and your husband are like in line I think I think that there's a lot of situations and marriages where you're not aligned yeah seasons and so it's hard because people change and if you're not willing to get to know your partner every day then you're living with a strength yeah got to get to know each other every day what season usually is it fall fall fall season fucking work.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeezy season. Which season is it usually? God damn. It's usually the fall. Every day? Twice year. Fuck. No, I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:15:25 bitch, who are you today? We was cool three days ago. Everything was cool. Today, Thursday, you're a different bitch? It doesn't have it that fast, but you have to be committed like it's every day. Especially if that person is growing. God,
Starting point is 01:15:40 how often do you grow? Are you the same person you were last year? Oh, God, no. Okay, so if you're dating somebody that is not, willing to evolve and grow with you and learn them all you are today and they're still stuck on the person you were a year ago. Oh, no, but I feel like if you with somebody like married 12 years, I feel like you, you're, you're there for that change every day, daily.
Starting point is 01:15:59 You should be. You should be. You should be. And that's a choice though. Yeah. But that's a choice. You got to choose that every single day. There's in any relationships.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Like, even our relationship, we have to choose to show up for each other every single day. I have to choose to learn her every single day. Choose to be empathetic. Choose to be patient. choose to be kind. You know, that's a choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Every day. Yeah. And you got to do it every single day. Every day. And the problem is in relationships, you get so complacent that you lose that fight to do it every day. So being married for 12 years, do y'all ever give each other like passes? As far as what?
Starting point is 01:16:32 Like to just go out and date somebody else for like a night. What? No. No? Do you expect to have that in your marriage? Oh, no. Oh, okay. No, I'm just asking.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I was figuring I'd ask to marry woman. Do you want to get married? I think so. I think so. I'm not sure. Do you want to get married, Roy? I do. And while I don't think my ego is strong enough to handle the swinger part of marriage,
Starting point is 01:16:54 I think like if we could make it to 60, let's go crazy. I don't really care at that point. Let's fuck everybody. Let's do it. Let's go nuts. Yeah. Like at that point we have old soggy body. Let's just let's go crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:05 That's kind of cool. Like if somebody want to tap that ass, go ahead. My ego now, I understand swinging. Yeah. I don't think my ego's there to participate in it. But I totally understand it. Yeah. I do think at some point, if I'm in a marriage long enough, it might go there.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Really? Yeah. I can't see myself doing it now, but I'm open to the idea of it. Later. Yeah. Interesting. Because if I want to just be with this person for the rest of my life, at some point, yeah, let's go nuts. Is it about the sex thing or just getting to know someone different? Not just sex.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I just think impulse, I think exploring. I think just, you know, all the same shit people do on vacation. Right. Let's do the zip line. Let's fuck another couple. Same thing to me. Not really, but okay. Let's go to skydiving.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Let's have a orio. Let's just try some. That's a little different. You know, I think there's some comparison to that type of shit. I really do. And if you really want to be this person forever, at some point you have to understand
Starting point is 01:18:02 the same way your brain works, hers might as well. No, for sure. It's not just men. Yeah. Yeah. Now, no. Now, no, I couldn't handle that.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Okay. She's like, my answer is no. No passes. Okay. All right. I respect that. Not in a marriage, no. I am a little jealous of the marriage with kids thing
Starting point is 01:18:19 because I feel like any time I get caught in the corner in an argument, I can be like, yo, what about the kids? Even if it has nothing to do with anything? They are a good. Yeah, but what about the kids? You're not thinking about the kids right now. Yeah, that's a very good escape. That is a good cop out.
Starting point is 01:18:32 That's a good cop out of the kids. That's really good. Because how are you going to argue that? Yeah. But that's also terrible. It's also bad because people stay in fucked up relationships because of kids. Yeah, exactly. Why not?
Starting point is 01:18:43 Do you want kids? Yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah. You don't know. Damn, why do you say it like that? No, I do, but it's just like just hearing a married woman with kids talk. It's just like, ah, damn, what am I signing up for?
Starting point is 01:18:53 She seems very calm and rational out of most of them married women with kids that I know. But it's just like she, she letting you know, yeah, it's work. It is the hard. It's the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Shit. It is literally, I'm not going to hold you. It's literally the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Do I believe in marriage?
Starting point is 01:19:10 I 100% believe in it. I believe in the power and what it holds. but it is very, very, very hard. It's harder than bagging up, mall. It's hard. Then what? What's bagging up? Well, it depends.
Starting point is 01:19:25 If it's bad work, if it's bad work, yeah, I don't know if it's harder. It's hard to bag up some bad work. You've got to make it look good. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard. It's not, but it could be the most, if it's with the right person. The most beautiful experience. It's the most beautiful experience ever, but with the wrong person, it could be,
Starting point is 01:19:44 fucking traumatic. Yeah. I hear you. Yeah. Well, since this is, I guess, a music podcast, we're supposed to be talking about music. What are some of the artists that y'all are listening to? I have a very different playlists than Braylin. I'm like Meg Vestalian, The Baby, a little gospel every now and then.
Starting point is 01:20:03 It's funny that you said Meg and the Baby together. Did you hear his latest rendition of... His rendition? No, it was just his song. It was not a rendition. It was an original music. You hear his latest tune? I did. I heard his oldest. album. Listen, I was on the previous show of Rory myself on. I was big on the baby early. I knew he was a star early. But I got to be honest. I didn't like that stunt.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Oh, with the song? Yeah, with the Megan line saying that he fucked. I just, I just, because you think it's not true or you just think it's not true. I don't think that it's not true. But it's corny or it's not necessary. Yeah. It's not. And then then you made it seem like it was part of it. the rollout. It was part of it. Because you said, he said I waited for my next album to say it. And I'm just like, I think he, I think the baby is so talented that he doesn't have to do those things. I agree. He's very talented. And then not only that, in interviews I've seen him talk and things I've
Starting point is 01:21:01 seen him say, I kind of thought he was a different type of nigger on certain shit that he stood on. So for him to do that, it's like, why? So you think that took like points away from how you viewed him? It's a perfect comparison about you with your relationship. relationships. Until you take some time and really get to know somebody, you see all their faults. You love the baby in the beginning. But no, but no, but it's not saying I don't, not saying I don't fuck with them now. No, not saying I don't fuck with them now, but it's kind of like, I want to know, I want to know just the why.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yeah. It wasn't necessary to do that. I mean, it could be something as simple as marketing, which it doesn't make it right. Yeah, but that's, that's, yeah. Okay, well, let me ask you this. Did it market well? No, it did not. I think this would be the lowest selling baby album.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I don't think that did anything. I think that made people look at him. Isn't it number one? Even more corny. I don't think the baby's album is number one. It just came out. It just came out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I think it's hard because we know him in real life and having a conversation with him as a person. As a human and not as Jonathan Kirk. Yeah. And not the baby. The baby is totally different. Yeah. Not totally different. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:05 But like you have a conversation with him and it's not this. Yeah. And then when you see this, it's very disappointing. Yeah. And that's what that's how. I didn't know. I knew him in real life. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:22:15 This is disappointing because I know him in real life. Oh, then I'm really asked a question. If he played that for y'all in this living room, what would you say to him? I would be like, do not do that. I would tell him. Would you cold your friend and kind and be like, that's the cornyest shit ever heard? Because that's what the baby can do what the fuck. That's what I would do.
Starting point is 01:22:33 If I'm his friend. Why would you do? Why? What are you doing right now? You look crazy. What I think, and I'm going to tread very lightly because I do have a platonic, a real friendship with him outside of this, I think, like you said earlier, when you are a man and you're the villain, it's either be the villain or not. Like, you either- I think baby has leaned into that.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, if y'all want me to be this nigga, I'm going to be this nigga. Like, y'all keep canceling me, doing this, doing that. Like, it's like, now I'm going to run with this shit. Yeah, but see, that's the problem I have because I don't think he's a villain. I don't either. In real life.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I don't know. I don't know. Don't let people turn you into somebody. I don't either. If this isn't you, what are you doing? Yeah. Now, if that's him, I don't know him at all. Either way, I think that shit is corny as fuck
Starting point is 01:23:15 to ever say some shit like that on a record. As a man, yes, I do not agree with that at all. But wouldn't you say as a friend, this ain't you, real. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're getting out of character. I don't know his character for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:28 I just think that it wasn't necessary. Yeah, I would be like, yeah. It just wasn't necessary. I think he's way too talented. Again, I don't think it changed anything for the projection of the album. Yeah. So it's like, it's like, it was just unnecessary. And, you know, I just,
Starting point is 01:23:43 I just feel like for him to be... I mean, sometimes you have a human moment and you're just sick of shit. Like, fuck everybody. I think I'm about to say this. I really think that that's what it be like. And when you get tired of people being on your neck. And having to defend myself and having to be like, well, this, like, you know.
Starting point is 01:23:59 No, he's definitely been through some shit where people try to paint him as a guy that he probably or obviously isn't according to y'all. I'm going to have some pushback there. I agree with what y'all saying. I've had those moments too. With everything that's been happening with the baby, what the fuck did that have to do with anything? I don't know, though. Tell me how that equates to going through human moment.
Starting point is 01:24:16 That's like, yo, everyone's on me. Yo, I fucked Meg. Like, what does that have to do with what we're talking about? We don't know, though. I don't have no clue what was going on in that studio an hour before he recorded that.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I don't know if something happened between him and Meg. Right, right. Personally. Right, we don't know. You know what I'm saying? You just never know. I just know that that is how artists
Starting point is 01:24:33 expressed themselves. And if that's how he felt at the time, that's what came out. And I'm not saying that's right. Because I don't believe that that's right. I feel like he has a reputation of, being an asshole of women
Starting point is 01:24:45 and I don't like that because in real life he's not like that. I can tell he's not. And that's the thing that's frustrating. I don't agree with that at all. Yeah. But I also don't know what was going. I don't know what caused it to get to that point.
Starting point is 01:24:56 You know what I'm saying? Because you know how you can be in a room and like, we were all there. We were in that moment. So it's like you had to been there. You know that joke where it's like you had to be there. I don't know if his friends were, they were in that room and they thought like.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Do that shit, nigga. Like you know what I don't know. I don't know. I don't fucking know. I don't agree with it. but I don't know what was happening when he did that shit. Yeah, I don't agree with it though. I just don't, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:16 Like I said, yeah, I think he's way too talented for that. He doesn't need to play that game or go that route. Yeah. For me, it was like, oh, man, like, no, I don't do that. It definitely is a poor representation of who we know him to be. Yeah. Who I've encountered, who we've encountered. I don't, that's a poor representation of who that person is.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I believe that. Because like I said, I don't think that he's a negative person. Yeah. I don't think that he's a spiteful person. Yeah. but that was some that was a spiteful bar that was you know what I'm saying especially towards a woman yeah and and it was just like he it was unnecessary you didn't need to do it um but you know again we don't know why you weren't there when he recorded it what was going on in the room yeah but somebody should
Starting point is 01:25:58 have been in that room that said like no I don't put that out objectively give me a why that would make it okay I don't think anything would make it okay but I would be able to understand it yeah nothing makes it okay nothing makes it okay nothing makes it okay nothing I don't think anything put a woman's business out there like that ever yeah i don't know anything makes it okay but it's like i understand it it's not right because if we're going off of public perception i'm not saying that's what he was doing everyone thought baby looked crazy when he was hanging with tory and didn't troy bring him out on stage or he brought troy out and he was like what you doing he just did two number one records with meg like we assume that's your homie no one even was saying that
Starting point is 01:26:31 fuck to me that makes you look even crazier because you were hanging with him and then yeah outside of friendship it's even more intimate we was not only friends we was fucking and then the next day the dude that allegedly shot you I brought out on stage he looks crazier to me Jesus. I'm gonna say you're on.
Starting point is 01:26:50 So I don't know what you're saying I'm gonna tap out of this combo. And again, I don't know other details I'm going off public perception and I want to make that very clear. That just looks crazier to me. It's not. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Because everyone's like, what's the baby doing? Did Meg do some foul shit? Like what the fuck? Why are you deciding with Tori? Then you get on and be like, yo, I was just fucking the day before Tori allegedly shot her. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:27:08 It's crazy. Yeah. What is the next bullet? That is too much. That is too much. That's the thing. There's be industry shit that be going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:17 We don't know. You know, I'm just speaking from just a consumer and a listener and the song. That's all. I don't know anything behind the scenes. I think this entire thing is a fucking mess. For the record, we don't agree with any man. Putting a woman's business. Put in a woman's business or publicly trying to, like, embarrass a woman.
Starting point is 01:27:34 For sure. Ever. Because I put myself in that situation. I'm like, I don't have sex with some people. And it's like, don't say that. Like, there's nobody's business. Jesus. In that song?
Starting point is 01:27:44 What if it rhymed well? Nica. Because there's a lot of... No, nothing rhyme with Braylin. There's a lot of schemes you could do with Simone, like, Simone, she moan. There's a lot of shit you could do. All right, worry, don't be giving these things that, nigger. Simone.
Starting point is 01:27:58 First of all, he said, C-Simon. Like, come on, I could... Be Simone, made her moan. I could destroy. Are you Mexican? Are you Mexican? Simone, S-Mone. Edon, he's Mexican now.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Lee. Please. Here's Canello. I beg of me. I beg of the. D-less rappers I fucked with back in my day. Please. Please, I beg of me.
Starting point is 01:28:23 You said D-L. I'll buy your album. I know no one else is. You're going to buy his masters? No. I'll buy your fucking masters. I will owe you before dust. I wish you would.
Starting point is 01:28:35 How do we rate? D-less rapper? What is a D-less rapper? That didn't you cool? A, B, C, D. Okay. A is like, we know A. No, we don't. A is like an A-list rap.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Drake. Drake. Okay. I can not, I start naming B and D. That's where I want to go. D is like, you know it in your hood. Because you're local. You local, local, local.
Starting point is 01:28:59 You happen to rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do that. You dabbling at a little bit. You got a 9 to 5. Yeah, for sure. They don't pay the bills. Like, D-less rappers, the rap don't pay the bills.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Yeah. It gets you like a couple dollars. It's one of the shit. Seedless rappers don't pay the bill. Okay. But if you put in Hovitt A-List and Kanye Drake A-Lis, if I'm a Seelis rapper, that's not bad to me. Facts.
Starting point is 01:29:24 You could have a full. Okay, well, who's the Seedless rapper? If you were to put C-Less rapper, hmm, I would say, oh, fuck, I wish I would have thought about this first so I could accurately answer it. Money-wise, right? Is that how we gauging it? Money?
Starting point is 01:29:39 Are we doing money or talent? As far as like, success? I would say, not talent. Talent is subjected. Success. Seat list? Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:46 I would say someone, and this is a compliment. I think like the Freddie Gibbs Griselda crew would be Seed list rappers. And I mean that in a good way. They have a full career. They are all millionaires. Their entire life is good off rap. So they're not bad sea list.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Are they more underground? No. I don't think they underground at all. I think the guy at the gas station is underground. Gosh. I don't think. No, he's on the ground. his feet
Starting point is 01:30:11 all to the pavement yeah like he's actively selling his music hand to hand even Cole called himself a C-less rapper when he was
Starting point is 01:30:18 yeah but Cole Cole is A now he's still trying to be a C-less rapper but five years ago Cole was B he's trying to live like a Celess rapper he wants to
Starting point is 01:30:25 so well he lives like one yeah because he's you know responsible physically responsible I was thinking more of like not known
Starting point is 01:30:32 like I would say Baby's what little baby is probably a Bless rapper he's probably B he's definitely not A you don't think A
Starting point is 01:30:39 Z is A, he can't be B. He's not on the same. Okay, well, yeah, they're not on the same level. Kendrick, Cole, Drake, C, that would be A to me. A, yeah. Baby, uh, Gunna, that, that crew would be B.
Starting point is 01:30:52 So yeah, so putting Gibbs at C, I think, is a compliment, no? Got you. Yeah, so it's like D-E is really a compliment then. That's what I was saying. I don't think D-List rapper is a crazy thing to say. Wow. So, yeah, give home me a break. He's D-List. Because when I was rapping, I was definitely a E.
Starting point is 01:31:09 I made a couple dollars, but it was like, Jesus. What happened to your music? Don't worry about it. I was in the EFG. No, you was in the studio, though, actively like putting records together. I love music. One day I'll put out music. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:26 As someone that loves Wiling Out, how much of it is stage planned? Yeah. How many, let's cut here, let's redo that happens? We never redo. It's very rare we redo unless there's a sound or a production error. but I will say 90% of it is improv, but we do know. Like, okay, tomorrow we're playing Let Me Halla. So you know.
Starting point is 01:31:46 I would hope so. That show would be terrible. You can't have, it on national TV. It can't just be 100% improv or it to be a shit show. But I don't know what D.C. is going to say. I don't know what Justine is going to say. I don't know what everybody. A lot of it is just off of everybody else's energy.
Starting point is 01:32:01 What about the beef behind the scenes? I was going to say, someone taking certain life. There is no beef. It's fucking. It's always beef. No. Which one of them holes says something you ain't like and you. Like, bitch, I know I can't wait, bitch, my damn.
Starting point is 01:32:13 You know what the beef really be with the guest. Like, they'll come in and be like, don't talk about this. Don't talk about my husband. So it's like, well, bitch. Well, why are you here? Yeah, what's the point? Why'd you come? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Like, we want to make fun of that. So. You want to make fun of your life. Literally. You make fun of ours every day, you know, so, no, we don't have no beef. We're like a family. It's like family, little shit, but it's never about jokes or nothing. We might be like, you know, personal shit, whatever.
Starting point is 01:32:38 We get over it and we get on stage. and laugh and hugged out. Who was your favorite guest that you were like almost starstruck when they came on Wilden Out? Besides Safari. I don't even think I was there for that. I have to see that episode. My favorite guest? Dang, who has been on there?
Starting point is 01:32:54 Who's your favorite guest on Wilden Out and who's your favorite guest on your podcast? And who's your favorite Wile and Out Girl? Ooh. Jackie O. Jackie O. She's a legend. Wile Out Girl legend. Her and D.C.
Starting point is 01:33:05 met on there and they had three beautiful babies. So it does work out. It does. does work out. Favorite wild and out guests? I don't know. I'm going to come back to that. But favorite guests on the No for Sure podcast.
Starting point is 01:33:16 We've had some good ones. We've had some really good people. I mean, from Rondrey to Tabitha Brown. Yeah. Batch. Batch was phenomenal. I got to see a side of him that I didn't even know. He was really talking about some deep shit.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Yeah. Who's your favorite? All of our guests were really good. They open up. Every time we have a guest, they always say, I've never talked about this before. I've never said they always open up. They just feel at home with us. So we want to create that space for people to, you know, let the audience see them in a different light.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know who's my favorite wild and out guest. Damn, I'm trying to think of somebody that you were like, I'm so excited there. You know what? Kevin came back this season. Kevin Hart. And I wasn't there.
Starting point is 01:33:58 But I've met him and I, you know. Well, clearly because you referred Jim as Kevin. Like, we all knew who you were talking about. Well, Kev was there. Kev was there. He stopped by. I know mad Kevin's. He cleared his schedule.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Kev came through and, you know, he did what he does. Kevin Hart, I don't know why. I do not know that dick like that. He did it. Let me not portray that. I do not know that being like that. I'm sorry. I made it seem like we're besties because we're not.
Starting point is 01:34:23 But Kevin Hart came. I wasn't there. I missed the episode. But I thought that was really cool because he was on the pilot for the show 15 years ago. Yeah, when it was in a lot. Probably baby. The baby when he came, you were probably excited. Yeah, I was excited about that.
Starting point is 01:34:34 That was during that whole time, that viral time. And it was one of the best episodes to date, like one of the best episodes to date, like one of the top episodes. Who contributes the least? Who are you like, yo, how are you still in the show? Jesus. Probably me.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I'm being in the back like, well, I live, I have nothing. I have nothing. Please, D.C., don't say shit to me. He would like, I got you in a while outside. Please, no. Probably me.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Okay? That's funny. Everybody on there is so super talented, though. And they really are like a family. Like, they literally. What's up with Nick having all these kids, though? How do you guys feel about that as men? I don't.
Starting point is 01:35:08 That's his family. I don't have any opinion on it all. I'm just trying to figure out. Like, I really would have talked to Nick. Like, I can't wait. He's one of the hardest working people I know. Like, I don't understand his life now. I want to know the conversation where he laid it out to these women like, yo, this is what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:35:22 That's what I want to do. Yeah. And, like, got them to roll with it. Yeah. No, it's called the wild stuff. Like, yeah. It's like, yo. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:30 During this season, he literally, he films every day. He never misses the episode. He left for a day. One of his babies was born and he came right back the next day. Nick Cannon is a fucking legend. He's a legend. He's a, like, people just got to. I don't think that's even a conversation.
Starting point is 01:35:41 He's a legend. He's a fucking legend. He's a great person and his personal relationship. I don't see how he does it with all those women. That's a lot. God bless you, Nick. And they're all so nice. Just nice.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Like nobody airs his shit out. Oh, that's called NDAs. We know, we know about the NDAs. I'll make a statement that we all know it's true, but would to other people sound insane. The alumni of Wiling out in this era, is drastically better than Saturday Night Lives alumni cast at this point. Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:14 And I don't even think it's fucking close. Wait, wait, wait, Saturday Night Live. If you go through this era from Wiling Out when it started with Kev being on the pilot, the alumni from Wile and Out, it's not even a conversation. Ken, Kat Williams came back.
Starting point is 01:36:28 DeRae Davis. Corey Hocom. Like, it's not even close what Wile and Out has produced for this era than Saturday, fucking live on M. I fuck with Corey Hocom. Corey Hohom is one of the funniest. For the culture.
Starting point is 01:36:41 He don't give a fuck. Okay, let's not even say the culture to the world. Yeah, you don't know. As far as shit. I fuck with Cory Hocom. He's me. Oh, I forgot y'all had a little. Wait, you and Corey Hohom had problems?
Starting point is 01:36:52 No. She didn't have a problem with Corey. Corey had a problem with me. I was like, what? I don't keep up with it. He said something about B. But I mean. He is funny.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Cory Hohom's not funny at all. You don't think so? Oh, I think. You don't think so? No, he's one of the best. I watch his stand-up.
Starting point is 01:37:10 I've been to, like, I've had shows with him. I'm like, this is genius. It gets so real and raw and even awkward that the audience is like, they don't know whether to laugh. I'm like, this is phenomenal. He's one of the most underrated stand-a-comedians. I'm sorry, but it's trigger warning. It's trigger warning. It's phenomenal because it's real.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Yeah. It's real and it's shit that people. And it was funny. And it's funny. I'm like, this is the darkest joke I've ever heard. I love Coriola. I love it because it's real. We're supposed to be able to laugh at life.
Starting point is 01:37:39 That's all comedy is. You're laughing at your pain. Shit, I'll even double down them. Mikey Day, I think, is the head writer at SNL right now. They took somebody from the first season of Wile and Out and made them the head writer of SNL. That's crazy. While and out is better than SNL in the last 20 years.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Wow. Wow. I'm standing by that. You love comedy, Rory. I do. Yeah, I'm a comedy man. He's like, yeah. 20 years.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I would love to. Make it all about her, right? Comedy. Oh, you love comedy. That up and coming comics. I love the real shit. Well, if you love it, come to one of my shows. I'm going to boo.
Starting point is 01:38:14 You better laugh. Don't please. I'm going to boo. Anxiety. When's your next show? Not telling you. I'm coming. Columbus, Ohio on the 30th.
Starting point is 01:38:24 What? You used to get in Ohio. What? I never got in Ohio. What's in Ohio? Don't listen to the Irishman. Who's in Ohio? He's a Mexican Irishman.
Starting point is 01:38:34 You don't want to listen to him. No, I'm listening. You're listening. You're not. And I'm Jewish. You're Mexican? He just said Simone. Simone.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Simone said. What, nigga? Who are you? You guys have to come to a show. I would love to. But Bea never wanted to tell me when she performed me because she said she don't want me to be there. She was like, she's going to shit on. I'm going to show.
Starting point is 01:38:55 I'm going to show. She said, she told me she said, oh, you come to my show. I'm going to shit on myself. But I can't see you. What? It's crazy that me and B don't speak. At all. That's whack, actually.
Starting point is 01:39:03 That's corny. That's crazy. But you see how we picked right up. No, but you corny. Don't even speak to me. That's corny. That's funny. It feels like love.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Yeah. I do love B. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I don't like a tone on either of those. I love him. Like, I would be there for him.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Love is an action. If you needed me, I would be there. 1,000. Like sending him to vegan food. She was there for me. I needed vegan breakfast. She had it delivered to my hotel. They don't even deliver.
Starting point is 01:39:28 That's love. I don't know how she did that. I'm trying to stunt on him. She definitely was trying to stunt on me. Here's some food, baby boy. Some $30. Well, that shit was expensive as fuck. It wasn't $30.
Starting point is 01:39:39 And it was amazing. And to this day, Atlanta vegan breakfast. What is it? Atlanta breakfast is vegan. And that's even after you ghosted her after her birthday at the barthling? She still made sure I ate. Wow. That's love.
Starting point is 01:39:50 That's love. It's my people. And she waved to me from the balcony. She said, no, nigger. I'm not coming to see you. She waved from me from the balcony. Why were you scared to go over there? Because I'm like, we don't talk.
Starting point is 01:40:00 I do not need to. Because of that. Okay. I think to end this, let's decide maybe a pregnancy pact. If you guys don't find someone in the next five years that we decide. Look at Julian. That's the one, right? That's going to get.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I think, yeah, no, nigger. You guys don't find partners. I'm down with this. No. Megan, you're dead. Megan, I'm going to kick your ass, yo. Megan, be down with everything. She's like, yo, I like, I like.
Starting point is 01:40:26 I don't know. You want to get married? I do. I want kids. I want kids. All right. All right. How about seven years?
Starting point is 01:40:32 Seven year pregnancy, seven, three, nine. What was that algebra you just did? What was that? She carried the one. Like my last straw. Sol for X. He's your last straw. This shit worked, though.
Starting point is 01:40:46 You hear me? Oh, all right. Okay. Because you started saying shit like, your mom are like 41? Seven years for you? I see you doing the math fee. This shit worked.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Get me fucked up. Now. Okay, so we should lower that to five. I like five years. I like five years. 35. Five years? I'll be 38.
Starting point is 01:41:05 I think that's good. 46. 38. I think the five is good. This would be like, fuck it, let's have a baby. Yeah. I mean, I think you guys. I'm not giving up on love at 38.
Starting point is 01:41:14 You just said you loved him. I'm not in love with him. That could happen, though. But you're a co-parent. Yo, y'all got over there, audience? Because the audience is alive and well. They kick it over there, ain't they? They're super engaged.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Yeah, I love them. So, DeMaris, put on our calendar five years from now. What's a thing? I put on our calendar. On our calendar. On mall's birthday. On mall's birthday. So his birthday, give it $5.20, I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 01:41:40 Give me a baby. Give me a baby and make my shoes. We said. Give me a baby. Oh, my God. I love that. The stove is cold. I am not shaking on that.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Pinky on it. Come on. We got to do on what? Having a baby in five years. So if we don't have kids in five years, we got to have a baby with each other in five years? Yeah. No, because I'm not giving up on love in five years. What does that do with love?
Starting point is 01:42:05 We talk about platonic co-parenting. I want to have a baby. be with somebody I'm in love with. I respect that. I got to respect that. Okay. Does Ma have the qualities of a person that you can fall in love with? Oh my God. Okay. If you guys want to see. Yes or no, no. Yes or no. If you guys want to see Part 2, go to Patreon. We'll talk about it on Patreon.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Okay. I do. Fucking right, I do. I got the qualities to be a baby daddy. No, I said, I'm the Papi. I'm the Papi. I'm the Papi. Ron. Come on. Anyone that wears a pastel sweatsuit, definitely has baby father energy. No, for sure. This is a baby shower outfit.
Starting point is 01:42:42 You are definitely giving baby daddy an energy. Can you wear that to our baby shower? Come on. You're not walking out. Yeah. Baby father chic. It's comfortable. It's, you know.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Yeah, because I'm dressed like I'm dressed to take pictures, but I'm also dressed to take the gifts into the car and into the house. This is great. You got to be multi-saceted these days. You guys, tune into our podcast, No for Sure podcast. Make sure you check our podcast. Yes, please do check out No for Sure podcast. great show.
Starting point is 01:43:06 I'm so happy for y'all. I'm so happy. No, we're saying in five years, don't wrap it up is what we're suggesting. Take it off. Take it off. All of it. You don't let me hit it wrong five years?
Starting point is 01:43:16 Jesus. Mall! This has been another episode of New Rory and Mall. Tune in every week where we talk a lot of shit and back it up. Just, just, like five years, five days, five minutes. I'm kidding. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:43:37 We love you. shit him with the Mitch and paid in the full. It's talking about five years. I'm talking about five days. Nah, son. More like five days. Oh, man, this has been great.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Thank y'all for coming. We appreciate your. Megan, B, we love y'all. No for sure. Pott, tune in. This has been another episode of New Rory M. All I'm that nigger. I'm that nigga.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Oh, October 2nd. We are at the underground. Charlotte, North Carolina. Get your tickets now. We're coming out to kick it with y'all. Rory, we're going to break up some more couples in Charlotte, right? For sure. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:44:06 We're going to break y'all up. You guys are the most toxic. Come together, leave single. I'm here to love. I'm here to love. And you can listen to the rest of this episode on Patreon. Absolutely. Dot com backslash new Rory in mall.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Pulse. Baby D just told me to say that. I sound like a fucking robot. We're good? We're good? All right, y'all. We're out of here. Meg.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Happy birthday. Thank you. Love y'all. Appreciate y'all. We'll talk to y'all soon. We out. No, Worry, and now. Hey, you f***ing tar heels or blue devils?
Starting point is 01:44:37 or whatever team you like in North Carolina, we'll be in Charlotte. You horny hornets come out. To the underground. October 2nd. Get your tickets at new Rorynmall.com. That's New Roryn Moll. In as in...
Starting point is 01:44:53 I know... Get to the underground. I understand that David Stern took your NBA team and brought it to New Orleans. No, they're back. There's still bobcats and Charlotte. No, they're the Charlotte Hornets now.
Starting point is 01:45:05 So the bees are back. The Hornets. All right, so what happened to the Bobcats? The Bobcats are no more. They went to New Orleans. No. There's no more Bobcats in NBA. So who has the guy from Duke that can dunk that's overweight?
Starting point is 01:45:20 That's the Pelicans. Okay. So it's Bobcats, Pelicans, and Hornets. There's no Bobcats in NBA anymore. If I say that one more time. Get your tickets at new Roryin Mall.com. In as an... This is an I-Heart podcast.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Guaranteed Human. Thank you.

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