New Rory & MAL - Episode 112 | Accountability In Culture Pt.II

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

Show us (and Jay Z) the accounting, the taxes or the contract! It could all be so simple. Speculation is only fun when you're in the wrong. In the meantime, keep enjoying throwing our money. Speaking of money and influence, Carl Cherry's tweet causes a conversation about the state of Hip-Hop and where it is headed. Meanwhile, Kanye continues to make his rounds on national news networks and reveal his "assistant". While Ye continues to make his rounds in his wild Yeezy boots, a hiker was able to toss a bear off a cliff to protect his life. In the city, we've officially declared the rise in rats a state of emergency. At least we're officially in the best time of year for sports. Playoff baseball is underway and the NBA is officially back. The guys discuss sports predictions and more +  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The most money he ever made in his life he may sit next to me. That pains him. I know that pays him, but we had a beautiful thing. It worked. I thought so. All built together. And I didn't think it was such a hard thing to say that the three of us built it together.

It pains them. All that Blitzie yoga he's wearing, I'm paying for it. It pains him. It hurts. Every time he thinks he's fresh, he look in the mirror. I paid for it. I can assure you, I did not buy these Lulu lemons with our corporate card. It was all my personal.

It's okay. You're my guys. And swiping it. On the Lulu? It's all good. It's all good. It pains them. Every single time.

Yeah. Every single time, you know, every time you go to the strip club, you throw singles, those are my faces on them singles. It pains them. It hurts. It's like Usherbox. Oh, it hurts. It has to hurt.

It hurts. It hurts. But we had a beautiful. thing. No, Worri. Welcome to a new episode. Fid him up. Told him that's two sacks fast.

Man, I draw the ass damn praying at the back's fit. Credit A-1. Still be talking cash shit. Boog you bitch. I'm in it too. Welcome to a new episode of the new Rorya Mall podcast. Mello Mall.

This is like ASMR. Yeah, man. You put the M in ASMR? A-S-M-R. I'm in it too. Mm. Oh, we got to find a flip for that. Yeah.

We had to do ASMR. What does that stand for? ASMR? Audio. It is sexual. Autonomous sensory Mediterranean response. Oh, duh. Everyone knows that.

Yeah, meridian. It's a tingling sensation that usually begins on the scalp and moves down the back, the neck, and upper spine. Trying to go down people's scalps? No. Hey. Okay. Welcome to the new episode of New Rory Mall podcast.

I am all. I'm all. Rory. And we are back. Pardon me. Ladies and gentlemen, I am a little under the weather. I'm a little nasally. I hate my voice anyway, so now my voice really sounds disgusting in my ears. Why do we all hate our voices?

I don't know. It's just like, I don't know. It's just weird. But I feel like I sound like a complete fucking dweep. I've gotten used to it as obviously time is going because it's our profession. Oh, you mean my voice? Thank you. No, I've always thought you had a great voice.

I thought my voice was fucking awful since. Oh, God. I hate my voice. But I'm a little nasely, a little under the weather. But I'm here to pile with my guys, my friends, the ladies and the gentlemen out there that listen to us each and every week. Dedication. Dedication, man.

Is that time of year? It's the get sick time of year. Seasons are changing. Yeah. I assume you maybe slept with the fan on. Had the, I had the fan. You know what I really think it was? I had, uh, I was riding home the other day and I had the window open a little bit.

And, you know, at night now it was really, really cool. And I was on a highway and I had my air pot on my left ear. And, um, the cold air from the window was going in my ear. And I, that's how I get sick. I get sick. I get sick from cold air going in my ear or sleeping with a fan or AC on. That's the only time I ever get sick. And I said to myself, yo, roll this window up because this air is going directly in your ear.

This is how you get sick. Yeah. And on my phone, didn't roll the window up, lost my train of thought. And fell asleep, had the air on in the house, woke up the next morning, throat felt like a fucking sand shake. Like I had dirty socks in my fucking back of my mouth. It was just disgusting. That's very particular. Yeah.

And I knew immediately I said, oh, shit, I'm sick. I'm sick. So slight air infection, slight cold. How much of a pussy I was as a child? I was like a serial ear infector. I had an ear infection every other fucking week. No, me too. I had some of the air infections as a child.

It's funny. The last time my mother took him to the ER for an ear infection when I was a kid, they said, you know, if he gets it again, we're going to look into taking his tonsils. Like, because that'll stop him from getting so many infections. And I don't know if it was because I was so scared. literally may not have had another ear infection for about 16 years after that. Did you have to take that terrible pink? Oh, absolutely.

I don't know what it was. It was the pink stuff. You got to keep it in the fridge. Oh, my God. Yeah. I feel like my mom used to threaten me with the pink medicine. Like, no, you're just going to have to take it. Like, I don't have an ear infection.

Yeah, so I'm dealing with that. So just moving on the weather, but I'm all right. When was your last true ear infection? Oof, I was young. I might have been like in high school. I might have been like 17. I didn't have any in high school. I think up until junior high I was getting them all the time.

then it stopped. Then I went down to Del State homecoming my sophomore year or something. And you know, in that time, you're like, oh, we'll just go down there and find some bitches and stay with them. You know, like, you have that type of false confidence in yourself. Like, no, we'll just drive down.

We'll find them. You know? We'll find them. Only one of our friends was successful. And luckily, the woman that he did meet was had some type of, like, motherly energy. She was like, y'all can just like, sleep at my spot.

Not knowing that it was like one of those dorms that kind of just has like a common room area. So there was no place to sleep. So I slept on the floor and my ear was like on the ground. So I woke up with the worst ear infection. I had to go to whatever town that is in Delaware to their emergency room, which was one of the worst experiences I've ever had. I'm so happy that it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Like I just, you know, I caught it early. So yeah, I'm right.

I'm here to kick it with y'all. The most dangerous thing I did was drive my 93 Chevy Malibu from Delaware to Jersey City on Vicodin because of my ear infection. Oh my God. No one else could drive. Yeah. One other person in the car, I thought he said he didn't have a license, but he had one at one point. So I was like, all right, well, that means you could drive. And I didn't have a valid license either, so I didn't really care.

It was like, can you drive? He got not even close to where the fucking Delaware bridge is at. I said, pull his car over. I'm better on three bikes than you are sober. Damn. I was terrified. Oh, man. Yeah, well, I'm here.

We're here. Let's get another episode in, have some fun. You're ready to talk about the culture? Yeah. Have some fun. You're part of the culture, Maul. I'm part of the culture.

You are the culture. I'm silent. I do my part. I mean, your hat matches your hoodie. Yeah, you're giving culture vibes. I'm just trying to do something today, man, just to kind of like, you know, bring the energy up a little bit.

I guess I don't know. The matching was to bring it up. Absolutely. You got to look good. You look good. You look good. You feel good. Yeah, I see what the socks, what you was trying to do.

You feel good, you pie good, right? That's how it goes, right? Who said that? Deon Sanders. Oh, there you go. Dion Sanders. Wasn't the Dion Sanders that said, look good? Play good.

Yeah, absolutely. Look good, feel good, play good, whatever. I like that. Look good, feel good, pot good. And Dionne Sanders just did a pot, so I think. Shout out to Dion. Listen, man, I don't, I know we don't, they hate when we talk about sports, but I just want to get this out there.

I love what Dion Sanders has done at Jackson State. I love how he's changed the culture down there. you know, just bringing a different type of energy into coaching. You know, it's just good to see because a lot of people doubted Dionne when he first took that job. You know, they didn't think it would work. And, you know, I just love the fact that he's putting all that to rest. And he's proving everyone wrong and completely changing the culture down there at Jackson State. So shout out to Coach Prime.

Yeah, for sure. And I would give Gilly the credit just as a podcast there. But it's, you know. Shout out to Gilly. Shout to Wally. Yeah. That will be really running on the sideline. He spiked that.

Well, that's some of the funniest. That's one of my favorite clips ever on the internet. Gilly's a fool. So, yeah, I was looking at some stuff over the week, over the weekend. And, well, over the week, I'm sorry. So many Thursday. And I see that Jay-Z is filing a lawsuit against Bacardi. Bacardi owns Duce, for those that don't know.

I had to go back and look to see if I was in this lawsuit in some ways. To see if I had got anything in the mail. Like, hmm. Because at some point, Bricardi was the people that did pay us at one point as far as our splits. So I don't know.

We might be in this lack there of accounting. See if they left the Paloza line off. It says, Jay-Z wants to know just how much money his famous Cognac line is making. And he's filed a lawsuit against his partners at Bacardi to get that information. Damn, that sounds familiar.

And docs obtained by T.S. hip-hop, Jay-Z's company SC Liquors demanding total financial clarity from McCarty when it comes to DuCe, the top shelf cognac brand in which Jay and McCarty are 50-50 partners. And the docs, Jay-Z's company says it needs all books and records.

The location of all warehouses storing duce barrels, bottles and accessories, as well as all info regarding McCarty's physical inventory and its inventory process. You, hiding some barrels at the crib would be hysterical. Like, yeah, where's the duce at? Yeah, like, come on, man, how many barrels y'all got? Where's the location of all these?

houses, we need to know. It's unclear what's prompting Jay to demand its info, but it is clear there's a level of distress between the partners. One sentence from the doc seems pretty telling. SC Liquor says it needs to monitor the conduct of McCarty's business to protect SC's rights as a partner in the company. Oh, that's a good strategy. This is just basic, you know, basic partnership, basic business. You need to see the accounting. You need to see the inventory. You need to see the numbers of what's going on. I disagree. Well, other people would disagree too. You just need to see the numbers of what. what's going on because, I mean, if Jay is having these problems, right? Rory, who are,

who are, who are, who are we? Listen, man. We, it would only, it would, it would, it would behoove us. I think it's disgusting what Jay is doing to this booze giant. Oh, Jay knows nothing about the first of the month. He has no idea with the first of the month. What is Jay doing to these geniuses? Oh my God. These lies that Jay Z is spewing. He's trying to see numbers that mean nothing to him that he has no business. Anyway, this is just, I guess, business practice. Jay is just trying to figure out exactly. you know where the money is, how much money. He's a 50-50 partner.

He needs to make sure his splits are correct. And this just seems like business as usual. I'm sure they'll figure this out. I think over the pandemic, everyone just became alcoholics. So, Jay's like, yo, I know y'all sold some shit. Oh, the number spike. The number spike. There's no way we moved the same amount of liquor in the pandemic that we did before

the pandemic. I'm looking at the percentages of AA members now. And it does not go up to what my percentage. Skyrocketed. My number should not still be the same. Need to see what's going on. I think McCarty's just being a bunch of thieves. Do you think so?

Well, I mean, I'm not going to say that. Picardia's geniuses. How dare you question them? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not going to say, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it. Jay seems to know something that will prompt them to say, listen, I need to see these numbers. Do you think if they just show the numbers, like if they were just to show the books, this could all easily be resolved? Oh, absolutely.

That's all he wants. You just want to see the books. Make sure the split is correct. Make sure the percentages are correct. That's all. We can move on and continue to make money. That's all. It's simple, simple things.

You know, if you just be honest, be forthcoming, be, you know, transparent with the truth. You know, open up the book, show them what it is. Does Bacardi have a pass at doing stuff like this, though? I don't know. Maybe behind the scenes, of course, because it's J. We're going to hear about it. Yeah. Maybe behind the scenes.

And again, this, you know, it's probably not that big of a deal, but it's just like, yo, I just need to see. I just feel like it's called Bacardi Ducey and not JZ Cognac. So why would JZ have any right to ask about what? what's going on. To see the number? Like, look what it's called. Like, come on, obvious argument over. It's called Bacardi.

We don't have to show you the numbers. It's not JZ. Their name is not in it. Right. Makes sense. Duh. Listen, I saw some things online this week, I guess.

You saw some things on the net? Yeah, some things on the net. Some things on the net. And just, you know, again, I don't want to make this a back and forth thing because there's really nothing to go back and forth. I don't play tennis. Yeah.

I don't play ping pong. So it's... You don't play ping pong? No, not really. It's pretty cool. Good game, though. At the Boys Center? It's a good date game.

Like, if you go on a date, go to spin or something like that. That's actually not a bad date. Yeah. Boys and Girls Club, no? You weren't on the ping pong tables? I like billets. I like pool. Okay.

I'm a pool guy. I like playing pool. Fair. But yeah, so, you know, this thing about, you know, our former podcast and our former business partner, I don't want it to keep going back Forer employer Well yeah I don't want it to keep going back and forth

Seeing things being said And you know There's more lies being spewed Obviously you know more emotions are coming out I'm starting to see how people really feel And felt about me You know And it's funny because

You know Before any business is in play Before any money is in play Like people never disrespecting me And you know I've been disrespected by who I thought was friends, some people who I even considered family, all as a result of just having a better situation financially in life, more money coming in to play, more money

being on the table. And I'm not going to play the back and forth thing, right? I'm not going to play that. But as Rory and I have said before, there comes a time where you got to stop letting these narratives be pushed and be spread. And the truth is the truth. The truth will always remain the truth. And, you know, I just, I'm still at where I was a year and a half ago.

Just show the accounting. I'll shut the fuck up forever. I'll apologize on my platform for calling you a thief. I'll apologize on my platform for calling you a liar. Show the accounting. And in fact, I'm going to step beyond. Show the tax is paid out. Because I know the games you can play when it comes to accounting.

You can't play those games when it comes to tax. show the taxes paid out. Let's do that. Let's do that on our... I'll go on his platform and let him reveal the accounting and the taxes. Let's do that. Let's not play this back and forth game.

You know, I don't know nothing about the first of the month and dudes carried me my whole life and all these things. You know, dumb shit, that's just not true. And somebody from the outside looking in the relationships that I've had with my homeboys of the past, you know what I'm saying? like cut it out bro you spin in the narrative you you move in the gold post none of that is true the reason me and those guys some of those guys don't speak no more you know nothing about or actually you do because i've told rory and him in confidence what happened and that's neither here nor there

that doesn't that doesn't matter but he knows he knows what happened and my thing is simply you know i'm not going to get into a back and forth for words i'm not going shoot disrespect because i know where that can go and i'm not even try to bring that energy into it i'm keeping it on the facts. Like I told Roy before, the truth is on our side, right? Show the accounting. Show the taxes paid out while Rory and myself were there. Show the Spotify deal.

Show the contract. Let's go on. If Roy, I'm going to speak for myself, I'm willing to go sit down in front of him and let him do that. Be happy to. Show the contract. Let's do that. You want to play this internet game in this podcast? Show the, I'll come to your new studio.

sit down in front of you, put all the paperwork on the table for everybody to look at. Edn't got to shoot it, though. Oh, we definitely will have our own camera there. We got to have our own camera there. Definitely got a dame at the breakfast club that one. But see, because, again, like I said, man, you know, it's weird, man. And I'm talking to, you know, y'all, as my crew, like you said, I'm the boss. I don't even like that.

I don't even like that. I don't even like that. I mean, you aren't, but I'm not your boss. We're partners. I need you just as much. as you need me, bro. I don't carry that boss anything. That's corny to me.

That's dudes that never had no type of, you know, status amongst their circle. Don't ever call. I'm not your boss, bro. I'm your partner. We're business partners. We're building something. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I look at y'all as partners.

Like, I don't want, I'm not your boss. But, you know, there's dudes that run around with that energy. They want to be looked at as bosses. But when you're a boss, you know nobody got to say it. They know. It's just you. It's just how you, the energy. you exude, the confidence you walk with, the way you hold your shoulders.

Like, you're talking to all of this and, you know, I, cool, fam, you could try to spend a narrative about more. Anybody that knows more, nobody has anything negative to say about me. They can't shit on me. I've never done nothing whacked anybody. I've never done no bad bins. Look at his history of business. Let's get, let's get Amalgam Digital on the line.

Let's talk. Is Amalgam Digital still around? I think they dissolved the company, but I'm sure, I forgot the gentleman's name that was running it. But I'm sure he's still doing stuff in the music business. Let's talk to Amalgam Digital and see how they feel about his business practices. Let's see how they feel about him. Because all you got to do is just look at the business practices, man.

Like, it's anything that anybody that I don't speak to no more or I'm no longer friends with, if you find out and know the real story, which Rory knows some of it, it's not on me. I'm the same all I've always been. I've never treated nobody differently. I've never started acting funny towards somebody I've never stolen from anybody I've never done no whack shit to nobody I don't I don't care enough

you understand what I'm saying like I truly honestly in my soul don't care enough about things to do something whack to somebody I'd rather just walk away from it so I don't want to keep doing this back and forth because I'm sure that the listeners are tired of it you know the fans are tired of it

and the supporters are tired of it and our energy is still the same my energy is still the same. Just show the numbers. Just show the contract. Just show the taxes paid out. It's very simple. We don't got to do this.

Because, again, that was really somebody that I looked at as a friend at one point. And I'm not a suck and I don't do suck or shit. So even when it's bad and we're not friends no more, I'm not going to spew venom. I'm not going to start talking crazy. Like, you're a thief. These are facts. These are just the facts. bro, you stole from me and Rory.

Facts! It's not about me trying to create some narrative and paint you a certain way. You stole from Rory and myself. And we know that. And we just got tired of it

and said, yo, we're not going to deal with it no more. Oh, here's another thing that I don't think people know, Rory. We never got paid from YouTube. We said that in the response video. Did we?

I think so. We never got paid from YouTube. I know a lot of people didn't know that. Well, I don't even. get back to facts anymore is because we laid everything out in that first response video and then I still see narratives from that response video of shit we never said I was like all right never mind I'm done trying to explain shit because it's the internet everyone's going to have

their own opinion on agenda I don't particularly care I only I only bring it up because you know one I think you need to address it he directly said some foul shit so yeah but it's not it's like you know my phone been ringing all week I don't feel good it's just like you know people calling me asking me what's up with this dude and he's still lying and It's just like, yo, but I don't, you know, I, I'm at the same point with it where I was a year and a half ago. Just show the accounting. Show the taxes paid up. If you don't want to show the account, okay, cool.

Don't show the account. Show the taxes paid up. And in my thing of the narrative that is amongst the listeners, because that's who we both care about the most at the end of the day, there really hasn't been much back and forth. You can bring up certain little shots that are little jokes here and there. Oh, let me be clear. get brought up, nobody really cares that much. Yeah, like, we don't, I sure don't give a fuck. It's not on my brain ever.

I don't give a fuck. We sat down with Sahai and I called him a thief and said, yeah, he probably used the money to battle you that he stole from us. And I, to be honest, took that more as a joke, regardless of factual things or not, it was, oh, that was just a joke. Like, it was a joke, which is whatever. It's truth to that joke. I know, but to me, it was a lighthearted from, I know your intention with it, was not

to start a back and forth. Yeah. I'm not telling him that someone can't reply. man, he's a, he, listen, I'm, I will never sit here. He's a thief. Anybody that has ever done business with that man will tell you that he's a thief. He's going to try to snake you and do some shysy shit to get the money and run with it. It just says what it is.

And it, and here's the thing. Sometimes I look at it like, okay, fuck the corporations, fuck the business. They've been stealing from us too. Yeah, they're still. But come on, man. Like, that's who you are. That's who you are. So all of these narratives, you're trying to paint about mall and I never pull my own weight.

And the first of the month means nothing to me. Cut it out, man. Stop, man. You go and you turn it into something else. I'm not going to jump in the mud with you, bro. Because I got the Yeezy boots. Those are great for mud. You know that.

I got the Yeezy boots. So if you want to get in the mud with me, I could go there with you. I could, but you know what I'm saying? I don't want to do that. Are you making a political statement now? No, I'm just corny. That's just corny. It's just corny, man.

It's just corny. So listen, man, let's put it to bed. I'm willing to go on your platform, your new show, that still has my blood, sweating tears in it. Because everything you,

and I know that's what pains him. I know that's what pains him. Every time he paid for pussy, that's some of my money. Every single time he paid for pussy, that's some of my money. Some of your pussy. Every vacation he takes a chick on,

that's some of my money. he use it. And that pains him. The most money he ever made in his life he made sit next to me, that pains him. I know that pays him. But we had a beautiful thing. It worked. I thought so.

All built together. And I didn't think it was such a hard thing to say that the three of us built it together. It pains them. I didn't know that was such a difficult idea. All that Blitzie yoga he's wearing, I'm paying for it. It pains him. It hurts. Every time he thinks he's fresh, he look in the mirror.

I paid for it. I can assure you. I did not buy these Lulu lemons with our core. corporate card. It was all my personal. It's okay. You're my guys. Swiping. It's all good. On the Lulu's. It's all good. It pains them. Every single time. Every single time you know, every time you go to the street club, you throw singles. Those is my faces on them singles. It pains them. It hurts. It's like Usherbugs. Oh, it hurts. It has to hurt. It's funny. It hurts. But we had a beautiful thing.

Yeah. It was the greatest podcast. Oh, God. But again, it pains them because, you know, the notoriety and the cloud and the attention that he wanted as a solo artist. He attained that sitting next to two guys that he feels like has no resume. Who are these guys? They didn't put in the pain in the industry and go through the ringer like I did. So now that we got a eight, what is it, six, seven, eight figure, whatever it was. We don't even know. We didn't see the contract.

It pains them. It hurts. Julian, you hear me, it hurts them. And I can understand it because I know him. You know what I mean? Like I know him. And it's like, you know, it's fine. But don't try to create a narrative about them all.

Like I'm some ain't shit, nigga. And nobody, anybody, I mean, you know, the fans that don't know me. Yeah, I'm new to them. You know, I'm only just doing this podcast. And the crazy shit is I was doing a podcast before you, homie. That's the funny shit about all of this. I actually asked you to do it. And you told me it was corny to do a podcast.

Okay, cool, whatever. Now it's your biggest asset in the world. It's the most notoriety you've ever gotten. People that would never talk to you as an artist, would never give you a verse as an artist. Oh, they'll come sit on your podcast now because you're a train wreck. People are going to look at a train wreck. If you see an accident on the turnpike right now,

you'll stop and say, ooh, damn, I hope they're okay. And complain about the traffic while it's happening. And complain about the traffic. While I contribute to it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I slow down too. Yeah, like stop it, man, because I'm not going, we not, you know,

listen, man, you know, I laugh because life is beautiful. Life is great. I'm having fun with my people. That's where I'm at with it. I'm having phone with my guys, man. We're building something from the ground. You know, we're in London, November 5th at the Earth Theater. Tickets on sale now.

New Orleans around.com. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just saying we just, I don't want to keep doing this, man. We're too far removed. I don't want to keep letting the fans do that. But fans, I got to urge you. Just come to New York. Ask about them all in the streets.

Come to Harlem. Come to the Bronx. I still get my hair cut in Harlem. I'm still there. I still go to the. Bronx to see my peoples. I'm still there. I'm still with the homies. Like, I never did no much shit to nobody. I'm still good. That's how I walk around the streets. I've never done nothing foul to nobody. I'm not that type of guy. I'll walk away from clearly, I'll walk away from

it before I fight and argue about it. I'm not going to do that, especially when I looked at you as a friend at one point. That's when it's corny because it's like, damn, we was cool at one point, know me now that the money's on the table and the things that we work for is turning into this now i've never pulled my own weight now i don't know what the first of the month means i don't know what responsibility means and all this other shit like stop it man just show the accounting and if you don't want to show that show the taxes paid out and if you don't want to show that show the spotify deal and if you don't want to show that what are we talking about man like just stop stop stop because again i'm not going to get in the mud with you although i have those zizi boots that are

for mud, but I'm not going to get in the mud with you. I'm not going to do that. I don't want to do. That's corny shit. This is corny. I don't want to do it. But we only talking about it because Jay is going to. Jay wants to see the accounting. It's because of Hove didn't ask for the account. I wouldn't even be talking about this shit. Hove, this is your fault. You asked for the accounting. So now, God damn it, I'm going back to when I asked for the accounting. And Julian, don't post this and then take it down two hours

later. Just leave it up. Just leave it up. I shouldn't edit it. And also to, and I'm sorry, Rory. I don't want to have to keep pulling you into this energy. Oh, I'm cool. Because he said he don't mind if you call him a thief. Which was very funny. Yeah, me. He can't, even though we're both calling me for the same thing.

We had the same percentage. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. Just took you worse. Yeah, just, you know, whatever. Yeah, wonder what led to that. And to put this to rest with the guest thing, because I see the narrative from that other side of like, Ma and Roy on some tour just to talk to everyone, Joe hates.

Saha has always been one of my favorite rappers. We wanted to bring side. Was that the thing they said? Oh, yeah. that we only talk to us. I wanted, we wanted to bring Sahai on. Really? They said you talked to Logic and Scihai and like everyone that Joe has beef with.

Like that's our, that's our approach with guests. Which is very odd. Because that's how much time we put into this. One, one the logic. What's how ridiculous is that? No, it was a real narrative. See, this is what I'm saying. And that's why we got to come away and have to have this talk.

Let's just go with facts then. Okay. Saha we wanted on the old pod. Listen, you and I push for that. I'll talk to Saha'i hi any day. Saha is one of my favorite rappers. I don't give a fuck who beefing with him. That was three seconds of a two hour interview.

I was honored to sit and talk with a guy that I admire. I admire his, great into it. I admire his artistry. And I've always wanted to sit and have a conversation. I'm mad that that was our first actual real in-depth conversation was on camera. But we was in Atlanta. I reached out to him. And he was like, yo, let's do it.

So, you know, so that had nothing to do with. Yeah, that shit didn't even cross my mind until we said. He put it up. He mentioned that dude. And not me. And I was like, oh, yeah, I have forgot about that at one point. Like, all, whatever. And if you really want to get.

into that narrative. The logic thing from behind the scenes, Benner used to work with Logic. Logic's manager used to work for Palooza. There's a real family connection there. And when it was brought to us, it would be a pretty cool conversation. We're not known as, like, Logic fans

that could just be an interesting juxtaposition. And when he brought dude up, Maul and I were objective and almost defended him. Yeah. So how could you say we're talking to people that just hate him and beef with that? And now we were objective and said, logic you're kind of obsessing over nothing right now listen man i and i and i get it again i don't

i want to keep putting our listeners and you know the internet's through this shit because it's corny stupid again stop the lies stop the bullshit we can go down a list of people that have been in business with that dude and none of them have anything positive to say about him you know math said we're scared to go to the barbershop math he said it jokingly he wasn't serious but he did say uh Rory and all are scared to come in the barbershop. He said it on the show. I think it was like an IG story or something. He said it as a joke.

He wasn't being serious. No, I saw Math when we was at Ducey Ploos. I told him we're going to do that shit. Like I love what Math Hoff is doing. Math, I, tell you, bro. I fucked with Math. Me and Math connected years ago when he was still heavy battle rapper when we did the total slaughter shit.

You know, I connected with him and I always just loved. You know, I thought math always got like a bad, like, you know, because people that didn't never really sit down to kick in with him. they had like a bad tasting him off. They thought he was a bully. Math.

He was always somebody that I just, I love his energy. I'm my favorite about intelligent. Very well spoken. And I love, I love his podcast. I love what he's going on with his podcast. I publicly champion that shit since he started it. Yeah, I think, I think.

And hats off. Here's your flowers because you came into an already overly saturated market. Yeah, he carved his way. Yeah, it carved his own way. But that's what, you know, but that's what real people are going to do. When you're real and you solid, man,

you're going to always float. And that's what people don't understand, man. When you're solid, you're going to always float you're going to always levitate because it's just in you it's just who you are like you're not here to bring nobody else down you want to just stay focused do your own thing and that's what i'm here to do i'm not worried about nobody else i'm not a competition with nobody else i love what we're doing i love the people that's around me i love the people that i work with and like i said we're in london november 5th the earth theater me and my guys i'm looking forward to spending some time out of the country with my guys like i'm looking forward to you know meeting the people over there in the uk that support us and And like, that's what I'm on, man. I'm not on this negative shit. I don't want to keep getting pulled into it. I saw enough negative shit in my life.

I know where that shit leads to. I'm not letting nobody trick me off the streets. I'm not letting nobody trick me out my spot. Like, I'm not into that. We can settle this once and for all. And you know who I'm talking to them. I refuse to say your name. You know how we can settle this.

I'll go on your platform. We'll go on your platform. I'm down. Show the accounting. If not, show the taxes paid out. If not, show the tax is paid out. If not, show the. If not, I don't know what else to tell you, man.

It just says what it is. The truth is on my side. That's why I'm comfortable. That's why I sit here the same way. That's why my skin is clear. That's why, you know what I'm saying? I have 20-20 vision. That's why I have a full hair line.

You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry, Rory. I'm not stressed. I just got a haircut. Yeah, I know. I see. You look good. You look good.

You know what I mean? It's the lighting. Yeah. It's just stop it, man. Stop it, man. I don't want to get in the mud. I don't want to get in the mud. It's corny.

trying to spend narratives like I'm some bum-ass nigger once again. It's not going to work. It's just not going to work. So we'll leave it at that. That's the last time I'm talking about it. Anybody that wants to come on their platform and talk and kick it, I'm not talking about that. So if that's what you're calling us for, I'm not talking about it.

It's only one person that I'm willing to entertain this conversation with, and he has to come with the Spotify contract. He has to come with the taxes paid out. And he has to come with the accounting. If not, I'm never speaking about this again. Much success to him. My success to those brothers over there. Much success to what they're doing.

Love, light, and peace to everybody. I'm focused on new Rory and all. I'm focused on my team and my crew over here. And that's all this is about. I'm not in competition with nobody out here. I don't care what none of these dudes are doing. I want everybody to have 400 million views on their videos. I want everybody to have 5 million downloads a month.

I don't give a fuck. I'm here to do what I'm here to do. And download our episodes. I want to say that. You got to start saying that. Don't just listen. Download these episodes. shows because once it's over, it's over.

Another news, man, prayers, prayers for our guy, uh, to surf. Last week, uh, he was arrested under what appears to be RICO charges. Um, I'm not sure if full details have come out of what exactly is in the RICO, but from what I saw earlier, drugs, guns, possible murder. Um, so prayers, prayers to surf and, and hopefully this is a something that he's not too caught up him. Yeah. I saw it when it came up on the timeline.

And, you know, I was like, damn, man, because, you know, I fuck with surf. Good dude. Which, you know, I recognize some of the, you know, the things of us just being from certain environments and falling victim to certain things. And, you know, I'm just, I just hope that it's not anything, well, anytime it's a federal RICO charge, that's bad. Yeah. But I'm just hoping that, you know, things work out in his favor. You know, hopefully he's not, like you said, too caught up in this. And just praying for him, man, because, you know, surf is a real good dude, real solid individual, talented, great father.

That's good about to say father, you know what I'm saying? Son as well. You know, it's just. Mother is always publicly rove for him. Yeah, man. Every time something happens. Prayers to Sue Surf You know

Shout out to Choir Shout out to the whole team Over there I just hope that You know Again like This is not

Not something that's You know Too too bad But again Anytime you see Federal Rico Charles It's like fuck

Yeah It's not something That you ever want Your name attached to So just praying That everything is resolved Praying that Surf ends up

On the On the better side Of this whole thing And he's back home soon With his family And back to what He does best Yeah

And so just continue to pray for them. And we're praying for them here because that's our God. Yeah. And I mean, regardless, I do pray for also a speedy trial. I feel like so many people we know, these trials have just been dragged out. Yeah. And they can't get bail. So no matter what, if they're guilty or innocent, they sit in for years just waiting for fucking trial.

So I do pray that whatever is going on, they get to it as soon as possible. And hopefully, surf can get home to his daughter. and to his fam. So prayers to surf. That's my guy. But I feel like this RICO shit, did you see Carl Cherry's tweet? Yeah, I did see it. I did see it.

I know that's a weird segue when it has to do with RICO, but I do feel like what Carl is talking about could be attached to RICO. Those who don't know, Carl Cherry, head of, what's his exact title at Spotify? Head of hip hop and ARB. He's the man over there. Spotify. He's the man. He's the one that has the culture. He actually is involved in the culture over there as far as he's head of hip hop programming. That's our guy. Shout out to Carl Cherry.

He tweeted, is hip hop slipping, question mark. It's not chart dominant like it was from 2015 to 2020. I can't even speak. Sorry. It's not chart dominant like it was from 2015 to 2020. But it's still number one. We've been here before and now I said hip hop. was dead in 06, the blog era followed. 2014 wasn't a great year. The streaming arrow followed after that. There's something revolutionary around the corner. I would call on that.

I believe there's something coming that is going to kind of change things. But, you know, again, back to part of our conversation with Sahai and where hip hop is now with, you know, how violent the music is now. Yeah. And then obviously, you know, the fed's getting involved and trying to use lyrics as, you know, part of that defense and court and charging people based on their lyrics and trying to piece together crimes and things like that. Like I said, it's because they were able to monetize violence. Yeah. Once kids are able to sit home, sit on their block, upload videos, swaving guns. With no consequence to business.

Yeah. Only to human lives, which they don't particularly care about. That's where it's going to become a problem. Like now the feds. And it's crazy because the feds was involved with music back in W.A. Of course. I mean, even with Irv and. Yeah.

With DJ drama with pirate music. But there's always been a response kind of like to Carl's point here. Even when Nas had came out, then we all love the blog era. Things shifted and rap kind of content shifted away from the street as far as popularity. Right. And then the obvious response to that was having street music become popular again. And now it feels like this revolutionary thing Carl could be talking about is the police, unfortunately. I know he's not really saying that.

But in this timeline of why things shift, blog era being, all right, people that were using the internet for the most part were college kids. They were uploading content of rap that was for college kids or people in school, not so much street people. that shifted when everyone got on the internet street shit came back streets now for the most part run the internet I feel like it's all the street people on the internet and sales were getting weird

streaming error changed that continued to make music profitable this revolutionary thing to change I think is the RICO stuff I think the young thug trial could very well completely shift hip hop the same way all this revolutionary stuff did as well

because to your point, yeah, they can capitalize off kids waving guns and all that type of shit. Kids dying. But then once it becomes real and the word RICO, we know, involves an organization and you could make a point that some of these companies funded, some of these kids that are getting caught up in the shit, it's becoming a liability now for the company and for the money. They don't give a fuck about human life. Fuck that.

But it's going to fuck up their business. So I think the shift of where the street rap is to some degree controlling everything may stop being an investment for companies. And now algorithms literally control what we see and they control the algorithms. So if they don't want us to see that shit no more, they can very well not do that. Because it's a liability

that they could get involved in whatever these kids are actually doing and it's on camera. But does it mean hip hop is slipping or is it just this style of hip hop and a new style will rise to the top? The music is subjective. That's your personal taste. Even what Carl is saying

here isn't even specific to the taste of music. The blog era just shifted how we got music, how we were presented music, how you turn to profit with music, then streaming changed from there. Like everything just keeps changing and changing. And now companies have profited mainly off violent music and violent imagery. That is now for the first time, possibly, depending on what happens with this thug trial, they'll never actually get in legal trouble.

but now they could be at risk of putting this stuff in front of us. They could legally be a part of it. So I'm curious to see where their next move of what they're going to heavily invest in when it comes into hip hop. Also, there's plenty of companies trying to find any excuse not to have to invest in hip hop. They were just forced to because it's the number one genre in the world. Now you have an excuse, be like, oh, well, this is Rico shit. So I'm curious to see where this shifts as far as what hip hop is going to be in the next 10 years. Question.

So in Carl's tweet, he mentioned that. 2014 was it a great year. Why is this supplemental and his general tweet? 2014. When did Apple Music launch? 2015? Probably right before that.

Apple Music launched, 2015. 2015. So Spotify was, I would say from what, 2013 and 14 was when Spotify really got popular. Of course it was out before that. It hadn't had a chokehold on the industry yet, but it was clearly moving in that direction. So everything was kind of in limbo of how people

were not only buying their music, but how it was being presented in front of us as far as who they could control that's in our faces. So 2014 was just a weird, all right, we're in a transition period of where we're going to make all the people go. And then once Apple, I feel like Apple, doing Apple music, help Spotify. It became, it made streaming the only fucking thing that we could deal with. And if you didn't have an iPhone, it was like, well, I could do Spotify. And so many computers came with Spotify at the time. Like, it just put, by 2015, streaming was the only way we could do shit. So 2014 was kind of just a weird. But, like, I thought he meant like general music wasn't I don't think this has anything to do with taste. I think this is all how we receive music and the

shift of making it profit. Yeah, I don't think it's the fact, I don't think he's saying like nobody put out good music in 2014. That's how people, like, he's saying chart dominant. Like, this is numbers and and everything. And of course, it's still the number one genre. It was the penultimate year, I think that's fair. It was the transition between how we used to consume versus what we now do. Yeah. Yeah. And I think this, this Rico thing is going to really decide what the next move is within hip hop.

Well, you guys are forecasters. What do you think is going to happen next? I mean, I just think that the bottom line is the artists have to change their, you know, their art. They have to change what they're talking about. They have to change the focus of their music because it's, It's clear now that your lyrics and your music is going to be used as a weapon against you. In fact, there is some crime going on in your neighborhood and your towns and your cities. And then you're now rapping about what's going on.

And it's like, hey, how does this person know so many things about this case? And a lot of, they're going to start adding these things up and putting the pieces of the puzzle together. And then here you come, you know, 430 in the morning. You got to knock at your door with the feds outside your door because of things you're saying in your music. And the bigger thing to me is it's just not necessary. Like I understand, you know, part of, you know, rap, hip hop. It started as something that was like against the system, against the government. And now it's being used as like a political tool.

For sure. Rappers and doors rock the votes and all of this. Like hip hop started as something that was against all of that. It was a, it was the mouthpiece for what was going on in our environment and our cities and things like that. But now it's just, it's turning into something, like I said, because you can monetize off of the violent nature of what's going on in your community that almost propels people to say, okay, well, we need to do something more violent. Like, we got to go back and we got to shoot the whole, their whole blockup, and we got to talk about it. We got to rap about it. We got to shoot a video, you know, at the graveyard.

Because regular murders is just the status quo at this point. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's like, when he says something's revolutionaries around the corner, I do believe that, you know, artists are going to get smarter. Artists are definitely becoming more business savvy. So I just think the content of music, the content of hip-hop, the content of rap is going to change. I guess I would say if it continued, if they continue to want to put violence, death, murder as the leading algorithm in hip-hop, it's going to become more play. plant based.

Yeah. Because street hip hop came back that was not plantish. It was just like, bro, this was some shit that was thrown on YouTube that caught. It was authentic. It was real. And that was, to some degree, the problem. If they want to keep doing this, it's going to be very strategic and very much a plant as far as the same imagery, the same content, the same everything. But it's not going to be real.

Yeah. Which, I mean, I'm not going to say my opinion on whether that's good or bad. I don't want to see people die. but if they're going to continue doing that, it's like any other company. We're not taking the liability. Right. We still want this message out there if it's going to sell,

but we can't take that risk the way that they were taking the risk before. Like, yeah, we love Bobby Shmurter dancing on top of our table at Epic, but God forbid, when Quadsio gets raid, nope, stay away from him. So I think that's going to slowly change. What's going on with Bobby and Rowdy? Like, it doesn't seem like they're not really, like because again I keep going back to are they legally allowed to be next to each other yeah I don't

I don't that's what I don't know because the the one thing for me to I you know when they both was locked up you know I thought they would come home to music I thought that you know they were going to put out music together album and when rowdy's album came out shout out to Roddy Bobby wasn't even on the album right so something that was kind of weird to me I was like what what's going on there And then you don't really see them in any Instagram videos and, you know, TikTok, whatever that they post online. You don't see them in any videos together. Like, it's something there. Maybe legally they can't.

I don't know. But it's, I mean, I hope that they still cool. I hope that they still are on great terms with each other because, you know, the way Bobby stood up and took that time so that router could get less time, you know, that, it don't get more honorable than that. That's why I love those two guys and I fuck with them heavy. Oh, well. In certain cases, though, when you get paroled, isn't there a little? list of like other known felons that you can't be around especially because i don't did gs9 get hit with a riko or no it was all individual uh it may have been a riko i'm not sure um

especially if it was a riko i feel like there would be some type of law for however long they're on parole they can't be around each other i mean they got the music actually what's funny that you guys mentioned that i wouldn't even risk it they got the bod montore with rout so it's is bobby presenting rowdy of row yeah bobby presenting rowdy uh yeah bobby presenting rowdy And it starts, is it the 30th or the 10th? It started in October. Yeah. And November 1st, they're going to be in Los Angeles, you know, so they got that going

up. But I see what you guys mean overall, like, music-wise. Were they locked up together when they did, like, their initial upstate? I don't think they were together. Yeah. Okay. I think they were together. Because I could see after seven years, maybe they just needed to break away from each other.

Yeah. I saw you in the day room for seven years. Yeah, they got a tour going, you know? So that works. We're coming up on that. We push it seven years I'm like, I like you, but Yeah, yeah, we need a little time

We need to go do some other shit, man I hope that they're all good Obviously they have a tour This is Rowdy's tour This is Bobby presenting Next month Bobby Smurter We're making his way to a big stage Near you and he's bringing

Rowdy Rebel with him good Love to hear that Early this week The Brooklyn Star announced The Bod Monde tour named after one of the biggest standouts From his most recent body of work Bodboy

In addition to Rebel Gis 9 Gino Lou got cash And more will be providing support I fuck with Lou. Throughout. Released back in August, Bob Boy contained non-high energy cuts

and a couple of assists from Rebel and Fat Tony. Prior to that, Schmurter kept his fans fed with a slew of equally dupe, dope loose cuts, including no time for sleep, Cardi and Lynn,

splash money, they don't know, getting them back. Currently, he's working on a full-up that's said to be titled Ready to Live, which will hopefully be making Landforce on later.

All right, so they're going out on the tour. When are they in New York? 19th of November. Terminal 5th. I think we got to show that weekend. I think you do too. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it will be in Austin or Dallas. Yeah. Okay.

I'm gonna try to catch one. Rochester, New York, Cable Jersey. Oh, damn. I want to try to catch one of those shows, but that's good, man. I'm just glad to see that, you know, they still connected.

They still working together. They still brothers, man. Because I was hoping that it didn't turn into something. Some bullshit. Yeah, man. I was like, damn, man. I hope that shit didn't turn to something else. So.

So shout out to Bobby, shout out to Rowdy Rebel. Catch them on tour in a city near you, hopefully soon. Yeah. The Bodmond tour. And that's shit, even kind of back to Carl Sweet. I understand. People have been criticizing Bobby, like, what these type of records he's making? Like, I mean, if you just did seven years.

Let him have fun. And brought up in your case was your hit record? Yeah, nah. Yeah, no, no. I'm going to talk about fucking these bitches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not going to trick Rowdy on his spot again. A rowdy or Bobby?

No, no, no, no, no. You're not going to trick them out. They went. You're not giving you a drill record. You're fucking crazy. They did their time. They stood up to it. They, you know, took that on the chin.

Their day time came home and now they want to have fun. They want them up, be around some girls. They want to dance. Like, man, I don't blame them. Fuck that. Stay away from that shit because they can't nobody doubt them and how they stand because they already proved how they get down. So shout out to them, man.

I know we're not allowed to say anything good about the Kanye Weston Drink Champs. interview but I will say I don't know why it got taken off of YouTube I don't know the politics I don't know if it was Puff I don't know if it was Nory I don't know if it was anyone

but I did see that people that were trying to use the footage YouTube sent out claims saying they couldn't use it as if YouTube does not want that footage out it wasn't a copyright thing that people were getting it was a this cannot be on YouTube

community infringement what does that say to the point we were just making that you could have any type of fucking murder, murder, kill, kill, guns, anything on YouTube. And you wouldn't get flags. That shit will hit the top page. Hell yeah.

There's documentaries. But this is, but see. And I fully understand that Kanye said some absolute bullshit regarding the George Floyd thing. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. He was out of line. But it is interesting to see what is allowed to be on YouTube and what's not. I just think that's a point that needs to be brought up to some degree and to some degree of what Kanye was saying once you sifted through the crazy.

And that's the thing. That's the thing. It was, you know, a lot of people were saying, yes, in his interview with Norrie on drink champs, shout out to Norwich, shout to DJ EFN, he said some things that was distasteful, that was just wrong. Absolutely. And wasn't true. And it's fucked up because that overshadows the important things he did say, the good talking points that he made. And this isn't a Kanye cape. No, no, no, no.

It's just real. and disagree with shitty. This is real. He said some good things in that interview. But it gets, you know, it gets negated because of the things he said that were offensive, that were wrong, that just weren't true. But he pointed to that. He said, you know, you can go on Apple music right now. And the first top five songs is, fuck that bitch.

I'm going to kill that nigga. Fuck that bitch. Like, it's okay to push that. You know what I mean? So, you know, he said some things in it. like I said, Kanye, I don't think Kanye's crazy. I think Kanye is a, you know, his freedom of speech thing, you know, and being one of the richest men ever, I think that he feels like, you know, he's untouchable and that he can say whatever he wants. But I don't think he's crazy.

I do think that he has some good ideas. I do think that he has good intentions. I think that sometimes he just goes a little, you know, too far into his brain where he's, you know, you know, everything that he says he thinks is correct and right. And this is how it should be because I'm the richest man in America, the richest black man in America. So I have to be right. Because how do I get to this point if I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about? But, you know, facts are facts. And we can't lose sight of the facts. So yes, he, excuse me, he said some things that were wrong or that were out of bounds that were definitely out of line.

But he did have some talking points in that interview that were good. ideas that made a lot of sense. But again, it just gets overshadowed by the things that he said that were out of line. So, you know, it is what it is. I believe the family is now suing him for $250 million dollars of $250 million lawsuit has been announced in response to the artist formerly known as Kanye West's comments about the murder of George Floyd on a recent episode of drink champs. And if you would see some of the right wing YouTube stuff that is perfectly fine. to stay up there that is also false information.

Yeah. Right. It's just odd that, again, you can hate that Nory interview. You can have any opinion on it. I'm not talking about your taste or opinion on what he said. I'm just saying that that's off the internet and look what the fuck is still on the internet. Yeah. It's insane.

But that's, again, that's some of the points that Kanye or excuse me, Ye was making was that. He identifies as, yeah. Yeah. And I don't want to disrespect him, please. But that's some of the points that he was trying to make. like they'll silence me. They'll take my interview down. A Maverick won't put out my interview on the shop.

But like you said, well, that's Mav's decision. I'm talking more of a conglomerate of YouTube. Oh, no, that wasn't Mavis decision. That was HBO's decision. I don't even,

no, I think it's on HBO at all now. I think that's strictly Springhill on their own platform, no? Really? I don't think the shop is on HBO at all anymore. I think it comes on HBO. I think it's on Mavv and in Bronze Springhill.

Shit, which I think is great. Oh, I thought that was still shop under the Trump or HBO. Yeah, HBO. The new ones? I don't think so. It was, of course, it's not anymore. Oh, it's not there no more.

The HBO Sports Series shop is no longer house at HBO. Which congrats to them. No, I think that's great. But I think what Rory's saying is important because now it's like an infringement. And again, I don't condone anything gay said. I really want to state that. You don't think he made any good talking points at all? I don't think it matters in like the grand scheme of the stuff

that he said that was outweighs how harmful a lot of the stuff that he said. But I don't even want to stick on his talking points. I think what Rory's saying Yes, I'm not even talking about what he would say. It has nothing to do with it has more to do with where do we cap freedom of speech and why is it okay to say

severe and terrible things about one group of people but when you even, you know, the idea of threatening a specific group of people is like, it's off limits so much so that YouTube is going to intervene and say get this off here. And even with it comes down to fucking PR and popularity.

Yeah. And I don't even mean views by that point. I just mean that certain names. Because if you go again to the right wing side of YouTube, there's billions of fucking views saying stuff way further than what Kanye West said. Oh, absolutely. And I'm down with freedom of speech, but I'm not down with misinformation being put out there.

I think that needs to be correct. Yeah. Right wing YouTube has and left wing YouTube has so much misinformation that is put out there on both sides that I just, where do you cap it at that point? I mean, both Alex Jones and Kanye right now in the last two weeks are the big prime example of the consequences that come with that. You know what funny? I remember when Alex Jones and people are going to hate

because we're, looks like we're defending Kanye West. Alex Jones and Kanye West are drastically different in the situation. Everything Kanye West said about George Floyd was wrong and terrible, which Alex Jones went on for like five years. That's true. A full breakdowns. It wasn't a sentence. One of the media personality.

Like that's his career. Yeah. Kanye is just doing this. I'm saying just specific to the Sandy Hook thing. Yeah. I remember when Joe Rogan went to Spotify, his back catalog, there was a few episodes that weren't up there because it was some episodes and they felt like it was conversations that they didn't want to, you know, put out there and they didn't want to like promote

and things like that. And Joe Rogan felt the way about that. I understand. Like he was, you know, he was really pissed off about that. So again, you know, you have these guests. and yay in particular because that's what we're talking about and they come on your platform and they say things that are hurtful

or wrong are, you know, just terrible things to say and knowing that the families are still out here and grieving from these things. So you understand how companies and networks are like, yo,

we don't want to push that. We don't want that on our platform. We don't want to be a part of that. We don't support that. But, I don't know if I agree with taking it down because it's like, okay, somebody says something that's not true that's wrong, hurtful, cool, we understand that.

You put a disclaimer the way IG does anytime you say the word COVID. Exactly. It's a disclaimer. It's a disclaimer. You put that at the beginning of the episode. But then also, you know, and I think the one thing that people were upset with Noria was about is he didn't offer enough pushback. He didn't be more competitive.

Any pushback. Right. what Kayne, but what Ye was saying. But I don't know if I agree in taking it down and abandoning it. I don't know if I agree with that. I don't know. Okay, in Norie's defense, though, did you watch

the Pierce Morgan thing? Giving Yee pushback might be worse. Oh, yeah. Nothing is talked about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sort of, he also, he also was talking with Chris Cuomo while he was in a car headed somewhere.

Yeah. He looked like the Riddler. Yeah, and that was another interesting. The name, though, the name, the name when that call, hung up that popped up. I don't know if people called that. I don't see. What was it? That name was very interested at the end of that. On yay or on? Yeah, the name at the end that popped up. Lauren Piscuata? Yeah. Oh, that's Cuomo though. That's an Italian bro.

Look her Ajiah. That's his assistant now? Look. Let me see. No way that's his assistant. In according to Reddit. I mean. That's his assistant. Well, we know. Sometimes. Never mind. I forgot. We're in a progressive world, the assistant. That's his assistant. She's a tax right off.

Oh, that's who that is? There wasn't any other candidates. Dare we call her a whole. Do. Clean so much of this stuff. I'm trying to tell you, that this was the best candidate that applied to be an assistant to Kanye West. Look how thirsty this.

She's one of one. Fam. That's his assistant? Well, I don't know. She could be a professional. efficient in Excel, Microsoft Word, great organizer.

You need those around. She's a quick learner. Someone says the greatest assistant in history. Yeah, really quick, really quick learner. To me, this is clearly the best candidate

that applied for the job. No, I think this is a great assistant to have. I mean, you can't have a system without ass, right? Yeah.

Hey, all right. You put the ass in assistant? Okay. Okay. Well, it's not an episode of Mad Men. All right.

My bad, though. I'm sorry. No, but she's, come on. She's, the fashion thing. I get it.

I get it. Not easy. The shades. The easy shades. Minimalistic with the clothes that you wears. I'm with you. I'm not going to fight you in this, Rory.

I am with you. I know that hotel room right there. Giving me. That's the Mondriot. Oh my God. Bro. Listen, man. I'm just observing.

I saw that name. I was like, what was James Bond's assistant that he always fucked in every movie? Penny. All of them? Miss Pussy? Whatever her name was?

Miss Pussy. Listen, man, I didn't know that was his assistant. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause her. She's a working woman. No, no, absolutely. Miss Money Penny. No, absolutely. I think she's doing a great job.

Like, we all know when the easy shades are coming out now. I just wanted to know if those Kanye hiking boots can get me away from a bear. Like, I can walk around Soho fine in them. Right. What if I'm rock climbing and come across a bear? If you're rock climbing and you come across a bear, I don't think it matters what's all your feet at that point. No, you just got to scream like this. Hit it, Edden.

Does Kanye? Hit it, Eddie. I was watching I see this bear attack video the other day or last night I was watching it and you know I'm laughing because I'm in the safety

of my bedroom for sure but I know that scream that yell is like where you think death is imminent absolutely like you think death is right in front of you this bear's about to rip my fucking flesh off

but in watching the video over and over I realized that I think the bear was just as scared I'm sorry yeah I think the bear might be screaming to some of these things I don't even think that's him the whole time. I think the bear is screaming. Well, also, I think it's brilliant that this guy is not only a rock climber, a bear slayer.

Also, good business, man. Copyright, 2022, Bear Attack. Yeah. You can't check this footage. Got to put the copyright on there. Hey, copyright, my death. But it looked like he was climbing a mountain, climbing the cliff or whatever, and he's just stumbled upon.

The bear is probably sleeping in its natural habitat. We're visitors in this part of the world. No, you don't think humans should live there? I don't think humans. This is just some adventure. This is what happens on an adventure, Rory. You run into things, you come into contact with living animals that can rip your scalp clean off your fucking forehead. But this rock climber or mountain climber, wherever this guy is.

Fortunately, he was able to scream and yell and kick until the bear was startled enough to kind of, I guess, leave him alone. Yeah. I mean, that's what scares me with these gopros and just life in general with cameras like we talk about. You know, if you get beat up, everyone sees it. If I have a near-death experience, I don't want you. how to hear how I screamed before I died. Listen, man. Like, let's say he didn't make it and we uncovered the footage.

Oh, man. If that was a loved one, he'd be like, oh, damn, he's dead. But we'd probably laugh. Yeah. Like, we've done him before. Look at how, look how Eddn went out. Yeah, like, he went out like, ah! Like, why are you there?

Like, why are you even there? But this is, um, I remember, see, a bear, the bear left him alone. This just shows me that our neighborhoods are more dangerous than these rock clowns because I was attacked by Pit Bull, just like. this kicking and screaming on the top of a car. Oh yeah. The pit bull didn't leave me alone. He jumped up on top of the car.

What noise is you made? The pit bull ratio to bear in the woods ratio is drastically different. Yo, listen, bro, nothing. Pit bull to Bronx Street. When you think that you're getting away from a pit bull and you jump on top of the, not the, not the hood, the actual. Top top of the car. You're like, okay, I'm good up here. And then you see the dog come up there with you.

Of course. Also, that's like, that's not a high jump for a dog to make. Yeah, but you know, in the process you're like, all, let me just get up off of the ground and get my legs up, get my legs away from this pit bull, and I'll be safe. Until you then see the pit bull look like, oh, that's how you got up there? Okay, me too. Yeah. The pit bulls on top of the fucking car.

Now you're just running the whole block, jumping from car to car, the pit bulls right behind you. And pit bulls don't hibernate. No, no, no, no. They're right there. 12 months after year, you have to be concerned about them. And the way they attack is different because they stare at you. They have these friendly eyes at first. Oh, yeah, for sure.

And then all of a sudden, it just goes into like a snarl. And it's like, okay, this doesn't look. friendly and then it's a run. All pit bulls have the emotion of women. Yeah. Oh, wow. I see what you did there. I like it.

A bitch as if you will. I like what you did. I used the term correctly. That's what I used the term correctly. That's what webs are. That's what webson taught us. That is what Webster taught us. I use the term.

Rory Tate. I was talking about Rory. As the definition. Rory Tate. No, we're the Tate brothers. You know, absolutely. You left one point out. If you get away from the pit bull, then you have to deal with a guy who's

car was that you Oh yeah That's the whole That's a whole other thing That's a whole other thing Yo it's so crazy how like As you get older You start to value things differently

Like you remember how we used to Like life Well yeah That's the number one But like You remember how we used to just like Sit on cars on a block Yeah

Didn't know whose car was Didn't Like bro just think about that for a second Like we used to eat Chinese food on the hood of a car We used to play spades We used to sit up there chill Have our radio

Have our boom box on top of the This is somebody's car. They could have just parked. The car didn't even cool down yet. Hood is burning hot. You got the fume seasoning, uh, seasoning. Your general house chicken. It's also someone else's property that you're eating pigeon food off of them.

I think back to a lot of things we did as kids, man. And it's like, I see how people just hate kids, man. Oh, I did too. The amount of times when I was a kid that I was like, oh, these adults are tripping. I'm never going to be that type of adult. Like, no, that adult was very reasonable and logical and had things to do that day. Like, yo, coming out your building and seeing a whole bunch of kids just sitting on your car. Like, get off my car.

Bro, just think about that, like all over the car laid out on the phone. Like, it's like, yo, get off of them. What are you doing? Yeah. It's the craziest thing. Just think about that. You go outside right now, Julia. Long night, sleep, rest, get up, great to go to work.

You just see some kids sitting on your car. Yeah. And I feel so bad. I like the adults. I wasn't that kid. I wasn't that kid. You never sat on cars? I just didn't do disrespectful things.

We didn't. We didn't. You would have disrespectful. It wasn't like, yo, let's sit on us call. Fuck him. He has the best parking spot in front of where we're hanging out. So we're going to sit here. We're on the block.

It's like, all right, we're tired of just standing up. So we're going to just sit on the car, chill. But it's like, just that alone is crazy. It's like, bro, this is a car that somebody pays for. Yeah. I can see how some adults wanted to kill us as kids. That's all. Oh, no.

We used to target. the houses like that's where I feel really bad. The car thing is, all right, it's forgivable. It's like, yo, just get off my car. I don't feel as bad. We, like, really used to harass the neighborhood. Like, I got a little bit. Like, really harassed, like, hardworking people

that were just trying to get a few hours of sleep before they went to work. But the one thing, no, that. Like, no, we would really, like. But we were as... Ding Dong Ditch is actually sounds like a very innocent game. It's a very disrespectful game at a certain hour. But, but, you know, the thing about that was,

even as kids, We weren't as disrespectful as these kids now. Like these kids now, like the 15th, 16th, like the high school, I would, bro. They said the same thing about us. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was a difference, though. Like, now it's a, I'm seeing more and more teachers get punched in the face. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but we didn't have, like, the phones and the cameras. So there was no, like, we never felt like, oh, we're being filmed. I got to act out. Like, I got to be the man. My assistant principal got assaulted by a student. No, listen, a teacher got punched in the face when I was in school. Like, I know that that happened. They're having all time.

But I think, I think it's like, it's more now, though. And I think it's because of what you said, like your kids having phones and they want to perform and feel like they have a platform. It's going to go viral. That definitely plays into it. Like, the disrespect and the things that kids do these days is way, way more, like, out of control and crazy than it was when I was in high school. Without a doubt. You know what's funny what the phone did for the kids? Like, I'm thinking back of the bullshit stuff we did to the neighborhood.

We embellished the next day, too, to all that weren't there. Like, we made it sound like it was the craziest shit ever. It was a story you told. We still did it, but we made it sound way more funny. The reactions of people were embellished everything. You got to film it now. You got to. And for it to be funny, it has to be true.

So you really got to go there. Right. Like, you really got to throw shit at your neighbor. Speaking to throw a shit at our neighbors, NYC declares a state of emergency over the rats. We reported last episode. You're welcome. It was our podcast.

Listen, man. We did it. Made the city really respect. that issue. Listen, dial 311 if you see a rat. See a rat, kill a rat. And I'm not to tell my rodents. But yeah, the mayor came out and had a whole thing about the rats.

And now we're declaring a state of emergencies a war on rats in New York City. Although, because people love to have jokes about New York City and rats, things like that. Chicago still is number one with rat infestation in the city. New York is number two. all right let's just put that out there we're not number one we're not the the ratiest city out there I just feel like war against rats is like the least of Eric Adams issues but it's cool you know you know like average rent is like 3,500 yeah yeah it's fucking crazy and we're second with rat infestation it's wild so let's let's lower some of the rent first and then

we'll so one of the things that uh mayor Adams was saying was the shut down to the 24 hour eat like the diners and stuff like maybe that would like well bro look the rats are not going let's just put it down the rats are not going to it just have to get rid of the borough of queens that's our that's our main source of income what the fuck yeah I think with the state of emergency

came a bunch of rules that the city is going to start rolling out as far as certain trash hours when restaurants can put food out things of that nature I think that will help though like a lot of like New York the restaurants and stores like that they put a lot of the garbage right there on the sidewalks for the garbage trucks to pick up in the morning time. That obviously is something that they need to kind of change because that garbage is sitting there on the sidewalks for hours just for rats to come and feast and then fill their little rat bellies

and go to sleep during the morning. So I think that that's something that absolutely needs to change because it's just garbage piled up sitting on the sidewalk for hours. We know it. We come out of the club. We come out of wherever we at late at night. We know certain parts of the sidewalk not to walk down because there's rats running from

the fucking sewer into the garbage or... But that's because if you don't put the trash exactly on the side of the street, the garbage man's not even go near it. Yeah.

I was stuck behind a garbage truck. I went to go see my pops in Maryland in April when I was driving back from D.C. And I got caught behind a garbage truck. This was my dad, where the fuck was he at the time?

By Annapolis. Somewhere in that area, Annapolis, Maryland. I got caught behind a garbage truck. The garbage man opened like a back gate and grabbed everyone's trash on the side of each row house. Like they kept their trash in the little in between shit. And the garbage man kept doing it.

I was like, if I don't put my trash damn near in the middle of the street, they won't pick it up. Not even touching it. Yeah. There'll be garbage bags near my door that they won't even go near. Yeah. If you don't throw that shit in the middle of where people walk, no one's going to get it. I mean, they got to do something though because it is a problem.

Like we joke and we laugh about it, but just because we grew up around it, we're used to it. We used to be on the platforms, waiting for the trains, seeing the rats run on the platform, running on the tracks. But there is something that needs to be done about it. It's because in the other city you go to, it's not like this at all. So New York City has to do so. I know that our population and restaurants and we have more garbage and trash, but there is something that we need to change because this shit is, it is out of hand.

It is out of hand. All right, well, let me ask this. And we don't have to stay on the rats too long. Fuck the rats. What is it that the actual rodent that is. a rat. What? Outside of looking gross and having a weird stigma. Do rats really bother people?

They carry disease. Yeah. What was the last time you got bit by a rat? No, but you don't. They got, like, infested with rats. That's not the problem. What's the last time you made out with a rat? Like, how you caught the disease? Oh, it was last one got bit by rat. They carry things. To where? They try,

it's the same way. They shit in the water? What? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay. All right, cool. I'm asking. Yeah. We know that they don't buy us. TikTok of this platform is me to say stupid shit and people correct me. So just like the dinosaurs, I'm asking about the rats. Outside of looking gross.

What is the issue? It's just unsanitary. Rats are very dirty. They are. Carried diseases. They're very small. Yeah. Never mind.

What? So what? So what? So what? So do the sex work. I'm saying. So do I. Shut down every.

So do I? Shut down every strip club. Yeah. Who am I to put myself above a rat? You get shots and you get. You can prevent these. All right. Well, Eric Adams needs to grab every rat.

Give them a penicillin shot and keep it moving. Penicillin shot. No, they're going to do something about it. What diseases the rats? I'm really curious. I'm not even trying to make a funny. Well, rat, they do carry a lot of disease. They're gross.

And they just, they fuck all the time. They have little rat babies and just the pie. So they're New Yorkers. Yeah, but it's just too much. It's getting out of hand. It's like nobody wants to walk down a sidewalk and see a bunch of rats from them from the garbage. Can you carry like salmonella, leptociosis. You don't want leftospirosis.

You don't want leptospirosis. You don't want lymphoc. Well, put a vaccine mandate and make, so they can't travel. You don't want the hans of virus. Do you want the hands of virus? You don't want the hands of virus. They chew through a lot of homes and cars. They could destroy your Mazda, Rory. Actually, I take that back.

They chew your brakes. If you had rats in your walls, you'd be fucking livid. Oh, no. I used, one of my buildings I lived in the long. Laundry was in the basement, and I would not do laundry because the rats was down there. Oh, so you think Basley could take out a rat? No. Oh, the rats could take out Basley is the problem, too.

Basley would look at a rat and be like, oh, a friend. Yeah. Something's more than that shit would beat the shit out of Basel. Bite Basie right on the back of her ass. Now she got the hantavirus. The hantavirus. So, yeah, I don't know. Add some fucking big-ass bins where restaurants could throw the garbage

instead of sitting it on the fucking sidewalk. I don't know. Just something to keep the rats. some going in the fucking bags and having a fucking fiesta. We need new rat traps. Back then it was the fucking the cheese and the thing and the snaps or nag.

Then we had the glue. That was a cartoon. That was Tom and Jerry. That wasn't a real thing. No, they have real trap. They had those. They had those before. Of course, you didn't put cheese on them.

I thought a mice problem in an apartment before. I didn't put cheese on the thing. Okay, peanut butter. What did you put in? Peanut butter. Puts don't like cheese. Now that I'm fucked up. Oh, they'll eat anything.

They don't get a fuck. It's a rat. They'll eat anything. Leave it out. They'll eat it. just thought they really like cheese. But yeah, then they had the glue one. The glue traps is the worst though.

Yeah. The glue one? Oh my God. I let it get stuck in it. Let me see if you start squeaking the shit. If y'all are quote unquote from the mud, you ever woke up to a mouse screaming its head off on the trap? Yeah.

Absolutely. I've killed one myself. That's what I'm saying. Like the mouse trap, the glue trap, they get on it and they start squeaking all fucking night. Like it's like, oh, shit. Like one of them hit the trap. I used to.

But I'm not trying to say I'm a hero or anything. thing, but I would always take the mouse outside and off the glue trap? Yeah. How do you get a mouse off the glue trap? You pull it off. It's not that, it's not that glue. You pulled off the rat from the glass? A rat?

No, a mouse. Oh, it doesn't. I don't know a rat in my house. You would bear hand grab the thing. No way. No way. There's no way you pulled a mouse off a glue trap. More than once.

That's how it hurts. For the paper towel. Bro, I'm so, I saw, I saw a mouse on a glue truck. I'm worried. No. Wait, so y'all just, all right, so tell me how you. All right, Jeffrey Dahmer. How'd you murder the mouse on the glue trap?

I rolled it up on a tortilla. I throw that shit in the garbage bag. And I throw the garbage bag. And I throw the garbage in the fucking in the incinerator. There you go. You would put your hand on the mouse. I'm not freeing the. They have the traps that are like the bait traps that they go in there and they get stuck in there. I've had those as well.

The catch and release traps. The glue one? I'm not pulling no mouse off. My pops is a super heat fold. How is it that you're the vegan and I'm not in the situation? That's true. Nah, fuck that. A mouse?

It's a rodent. You don't eat rodents. I didn't eat it. I freed it. Yo, you pulled a mouse off a glue trap before? No. Bro, look, that glue is so sticky that I used to see the mice on it. They would literally like, have you ever accidentally touched one of those?

Like, you get stuck. Okay, hold on. Y'all do know that there's also the ones. There's the roach ones that are like the square. Yeah, yeah. They have the mice ones too that have a little more ceiling. Yeah. So I've had those too.

You picked the shit up. and then you just rip the shit off and let the mouse go. Rip the shit off. Bro, I saw a mouse fucking damn near chew its own tail off trying to get off the fucking the mouse, the glue trap. You think that I'm pulling a mouse off a glue trap. Take that shit, throw that shit to garbage. Throw the garbage out.

I mean, I'm not trying to sound like a hero, but now that I'm, now that I listen to you guys, I think I'm fucking am. Actually, Eric Adams needs to come see you. He needs to come see you. You're part of the rat problem. A rat. I'm not pulling this off of the glue trap. There's no way.

There's no way. All right. A mouse that big has never been in my house. That's a rat. Like, y'all are fucking, that's not what I'm talking. I'm talking about the little-ass mice, bro. Yo, so you used to get a paper towel and pull a mouse off a glue trap? They would have one little tiny-ass foot that would be caught on it.

Every single time it would be a foot. Yeah. I saw a mouse on top. You know, that shit's face pressed against the fucking glue truck. I'm not pulling that shit off. No way. Get the fuck out of here. Get out of here.

You're gone. You're out of here. That's a close-up. You know that mouse is like this big. Look at that one drawing. They pull an olive. He's laid out though. But I'm saying it's not about like

If it's one foot I'll even shoot you bail and be like okay fine All you got to do is move a foot You're not pulling the entire body off this fucking track Guys I'm not saying that I'm not without ripping his tail off or something Y'all are acting like I had a mouse community Where every day I was traveling This happened like a few times at most

Oh he ain't from the hood sounds like a core memory He ain't a few times? Oh no I used to let if there was a mouse I'd let that shit rock for a while Until a chick would be like hey can you do this something That was the only time I'd lay up trap out. It's because a chick would say something.

You let the mouse just live in the house? Yeah. Get the fuck. Would you feed it? See a mouse? I'm like, go get the trash. I've never feed it.

We catching this motherfucker tonight. Fuck that. That's not too bad though. What? I'll read that little small one. No. It's not about the size, bro. It's a fuss and eroding.

That's Roy. I never had a big ass mouse. It's not about the size. It's eroding in your house. Get it out. Yeah, nah. I did. I took it outside of my building and I let it go free.

Roy, that same mouse came back in your house two days later. I know. He's like, he definitely did. Third floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yo, I'm going back up there. He got, he won round one.

I'm back. No, fuck that. Throw that whole trap in the garbage and let that mouse die. I don't give a fuck. I feel like those are the old school one. Yeah, no, I'm not doing that. All right, Eric Adams, listen, man, clean up the city because God damn it, I don't know what the fuck is going on. The makers just smoking weed and the rats are running crazy.

New York is going to shit. Yeah, Lori's letting them free. Oh, man. Speaking of New York. Have y'all had a. rat in your house? No, not a rat. I'm going to say, no.

Not a rat. My shit. Not a rat. No, hell. A rat in my apartment. The rat now lives there. He can have the apartment. I'm out.

A rat? No, I'm not doing that. My old is like, oh, shit, one of them got in here. But a rat, no, we're not doing that. Speaking of New York, the Yankees advanced to the American League Championship series, Rory. Yes. I know your Queens' ass isn't too happy about that. I'm a Gets.

I'm a Yankees fan forever. Oh, yeah. That's fair. They lost game one last night. The first dog's name was Munson. I'm serious. They lost game one last night to the Astros. I don't know if we're going to beat the Astros.

I'm going to be honest. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen, I'm a Yankees. I'm going to listen to this. We're talking about game one. Game two is while we're recording this. But we could have won last night. Like, it wasn't like a game that was unwinnable.

No, I just think because of how good the is a lot better than the Cleveland team we just beat. And I think we still kind of like. The Cleveland team. No, you call them the Guardians. The Cleveland Guardians. Like, how did they land on that name? The Guardians? That's disgusting.

Like, come on, man. Progressive. I feel like I'm watching every time, like, you know, you keep the TV on and you can just hear shit. Yeah. Every time, like, am I watching AAA baseball? Who are the Guardians? Yeah. Are the Guardians?

I think we're still kind of on the high from that, and this Astros team is a lot better. And I'm just, I'm going to be honest. I don't know if we, I don't know if we're going to beat this team. I hope so. If we get one in Houston, obviously we didn't get the one last night. We get tonight. there's a chance to go back to New York. Yeah.

But if we go down to, oh, I don't already know. The season team is tough. They're the real deal. But we'll see. We'll see hopefully the Yankees get it because it's been, what, 13 years since we went to the World Series? Yes. Something like that.

It's time for us to go back, let Aaron Judge cap off this historic season with another championship ring. I was so spoiled as a kid. We all were. We had some great years as Yankees fans. Jesus Christ. It's like every year we were there in the World Series. The NBA season is back

As a Knicks fan I wasn't No listen man Listen the Knicks look good The Knicks look good man The Knicks look good man The Knicks look good I like Jalen Brunson You know

I like the way Julius Look last night You know I like cameras I like them giving Cameretta some playing time Six players and double figures Like it's nice to see even scoring throughout I like the Hartenstein

The senator that they got The Nick they didn't look bad They didn't look bad. I'm with you. They didn't look bad. It looks like this is going to be an exciting season. I think we may need to get R.J. away from Dreamdoll, but that's about it. I think that's the only thing that might hold us back.

Is he dating Dreamdoll? I took a picture together and I got nervous. Especially because everyone in the comments was like, cutest couple ever. I was like, oh, fuck. Yeah, it might be time. It might be time to trade RJ Barrett if that's the case, man. Look at them, man. They look so happy.

Yeah. This is terrifying. Yeah, man. It might be time to trade. trade all. Once they start smiling with... Oh, God, he's with French and A-Bugie. Oh, yeah. Yeah, time to trade him. French, you know you're my guy, but stay away

from the Knicks. Trying to have a good season here. No, but the Knicks look good. Man, all jokes on the side. They look good. This team looks like, you know, from the first game, I know so seriously, but I think they addressed the important part of the issue, which was getting a point guard

to kind of take some of that pressure off of Derek Rose. Yeah. Asking Derek Rose to still be the Derek Rose that he was before the injuries was asking a lot. And I like Jalen Brunson. Talking to Julius this offseason, he loves Jalen Brunson. He says that's the best point guard that he's ever played with by far. No, it's like to Derek Rose, I mean, like, he's just saying, like, as of right now,

like Jailen Brunson is a lot better than people probably think he is. So, yeah, man, hopefully the Knicks, one of them teeters, she had nets. It's scary. I don't know what the Nets is going to do. Ben Simmons, 23 minutes, 4 points, 3 turnover, filed out 0-4-2 from the line. I know it's over this. I understand. I understand it's history, but it was one game.

It's only one game. It's one game. It's one game. But it's just, you know. I'm not saying bad or good. It was one game. Now, I'm going to jump out there and talk for my beloved L.A. Lakers. It's going to be a long year for us, man.

Yeah, bro. It's going to be a long year, man. We asking, we asking LeBron to still be the best player. in his 20th season. It's asking a lot. It's asking a lot. I don't want to hear anybody blaming nothing on Russell

saying it's his fault. Like, stop it. That's so, stop it. Let's get rid of that. It's not Russell Westbrook's fault. But it's going to be a very long season for my Lakers.

I will be very surprised if we make the playoffs. The Lakers on paper look amazing. And then, well, not amazing, but they look good. But then once you get them to the court,

yeah, man. I don't know, man. We got to make a trade. I think, I think, I agree. Charles Barkley says something interesting other night about Russell. He said he doesn't look happy. The joy and the passion that he played with at one time. It's not there anymore.

And I agree. I know what Charles Barkley's saying. Russell looks like he's, um, he's just out there just because he has to be out there. And he, and he doesn't look like he's having fun. I don't remember the last time Russell Westbrook smiled in a latest jersey. I don't remember the last time he looked. you know, just excited to be playing. I think he's just out there to do his job

and the media won't come down on him for not playing hard. But I think we might have to trade rush. He's not happy there. He's not happy there. Can we quickly pull up the Dremont Green response video? On October 5th, Draymond Green and teammate Jordan Poole

got into a verbal altercation during practice. The incident ended with Dremont punching pool in the face. The situation rocked the sports world. and took the Golden State Warriors to the core. I think in the very first few minutes, or first few or 10 or whatever, I think you're initially upset, you know, pissed off, which is why you have the reaction you have.

I want to start by saying, like, they shot this, like, all the Hurricane Katrina victims 10 years after. Right. Like, did you watch the description? Discovery Channel 20 year anniversary of 9-11. This is exactly how they shot it and exactly how the victims of that were acting. DeFocus.

Draymond Green punched somebody at practice. Yeah. Yeah. And probably not the first time. He started with saying, I was at home with my kids. No, you weren't. Not, bro. No, you punched somebody at practice.

Stop acting like you was the victim. Like, I was at home. I had no idea what happened. No, I can do, no, like. Flight 93, Tramon. No, no, no. He was saying when he found out the video got out. Exactly.

But you can't act that. Exactly. But don't say you was at home with your kids. When the video got out, yeah, he was. I didn't even know what was going on. No, you punched somebody at practice. It was interesting to see them on the court last night. It was interesting to see, well, night before last.

It was interesting to see Draymond and Jordan Poole, just their, you know, their energy with each other. It does seem like they put it behind them and they kind of just like, you know, it is what it is. It happened. And it does happen. It's not the first time that a teammate or teammates got into a fight with each other. I think it's one of the few times where we actually saw it and actually saw the punch and things like that. But it happens a lot. A bunch of athletes to tell you that teammates fight all the time.

Coaches fight, you know, teammates and things like that. It all happens. It usually stays inside the locker room. This just happened. The video got out and we saw it. All right, cool. But what do you think about this fucking video? No, this video was hilarious because it was one of those videos.

Is he joking? Is this for real? It looked for real? This feels like another SNL sketch. Like the fact that you would punch somebody at practice and then do the victim video. Yeah. Like I was just, I care about raising my children. Yeah. That's all.

I'm just, that's what you try to humanize. Like, I'm just a father and, you know, just trying to be home with the family. But you can't do the victim lighting, the victim backlight with the close-up lens. Yeah. When you were the one that punched somebody. Was this video worse than Will Smith's response? Yes. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah, even though Will Smith was, it was an ad. He had his son's water. I can respect that more than... He had to just water up there? Yeah, it's perfectly framed. Yeah. I can respect that way more than any.

This was like he was trapped in a flood. Yeah, like he lost everything. Yeah, like this is the world sees your most embarrassing and biggest mistake. Yeah. It wasn't a mistake, Jermont. You might to punish Jordan Poole. But I think they got past it. I do think the Warriors will repeat this shit.

years champions. Yeah, and I mean, it looked like they put it behind them, so whatever. It is what it is. Clippers are. Teammates fight all the time, man. Clippers look all right. I know it's only been a week. They didn't play yet.

But I'm saying they played them nice. Their roster. Oh, no, no, no. People being healthy. Coah Leonard is back. You know. Once Coisland is back healthy, Paul George is healthy. I like them adding John Wall. Hopefully he's back.

And, you know, he's back to his full self. Shout to John Wall. I read, I read an article. on him and you know when he was hurt um prayers to him he lost his mother oh shit i haven't um and he said you know he started contemplating suicide and things like that um so you know prayers to john wall um i hope he's back you know healthy and he's happy and he gets back to playing the game that he loves john is a good dude man and you know when i saw that interview come out and he was talking on those things it was just you never know you think a lot of because a lot of these

guys have so much money and so much access you see him at rosebar yeah you like yo he ain't in the word, but he has no worries in the world. Your Eskimo brothers. Yeah. Just assume everything's fine. You think life is great. And, you know, to hear John speak about those things and to say exactly how unhappy he was and the thoughts that he had, it was, you know, it was like, damn, man. You know, you just never know what a lot of these dudes are going through, despite them having all of this money and fame and access and things like that.

You know, they still deal with a lot of mental health things. So, yeah. Slupe to John Wall. He's back. Hopefully he's healthy and back to having fun. And the clip is on paper. Look really good. and to me, if Coah Leonard is healthy,

the Clippers have to be a favorite to win it because he's, Kyle Leonard is one of the best players in the league. So, yeah, we'll see what the Clippers do this year, but my Lakers, we're in trouble. I got the Clippers beating us by 20 tonight.

Damn. Yeah, it's that bad for our Lakers. Love LeBron, but 20 years, all the time is going to catch up eventually. Yeah, we can't. Did a commercial about it on. Yeah.

And we can't, we can't ask LeBron to beat for all the time. Like, we can't, that's asking too much of a player. so we'll see um anything else no we'll be back uh next week we'll be back next week tickets on sale london will be there november 5th at the earth theater yes mate tickets available at new rory nmall yes patreon dot com backslash rory in mall um go to our shit like subscribe comment all the things download download these episodes because once it's over it's full it's fucking over, Goddammit.

I don't know what you know that we don't know, but... No one knows what I know, Julian. That's the power that I hold. Reddit wants both of you to do an AMA. They mentioned that to me last night. The same time. Yeah, they'd like for you guys to do like a live chat. I'm down.

I mean, I'll do another one. I comment. I did one. Yeah, I did one. It was a lot of fun. But they had the live chat thing when they can just kind of just go off and we can just... The live chat. The Discord one is great now that they have that, like, I'll call it a clubhouse feature.

but Discord Clubhouse is fun Wait, they could talk to us? Yeah, I did one on Discord for our Patreon. I did one on Discord but they weren't talking to me It was kind of like a I've done the chat Discord one But I recently did the

Like it's literally Clubhouse Okay, that's fire Yeah, I'll do that I kick it with them on Reddit Well, they were asking for us to do one Of just you and I and the women of Patreon Just women and us The women on our Patreon?

Yes, just the women and us Can you do, are you allowed to invite. I think we get canceled for that. Yeah. Like submit your gender. Is that sexist? Oh.

Yeah. Wait, you're not allowed to identify as a woman? Not on Patreon. No. That's not. You can't identify as a woman on Patreon. You identify as a patron.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll do it though. Let's set it up. Let's do it. I can go with the Patreonis. Why not? All right.

All right, man. We'll be back next week. Man. Y'all be safe. Have a great weekend. Get out there. Enjoy the last few days of this 65 degree weather because it's fucking over after this.

Well, if you're in New York area, some other places are still kind of warm out. Hopefully I feel better next week and do everything I can this week and I kind of doctor myself back to hell. But yeah, y'all be safe. Be blessed. Love, light, positivity. Teach it every one of y'all. Thank y'all for kicking with us. Thank y'all for listening.

Thank y'all for not listening if you're not listening. I don't know what the hell you're listening to, but whatever. It's all good. We'll be back in a few days. Y'all be safe. I'm that niggie. He's just ginger. Peace.

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